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Father, we honor you today as we come before

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you as sons, excited about what you have for

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us, what you've put before us. So Lord, we consecrate

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our conversation to you. We ask that you touch

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it, that you anoint it, and that Lord, you breathe

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on what we're doing here today because our heart

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is to help people. It's to honor you first and

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help people second. So Lord, for our friends

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and our new friends that will be listening to

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this podcast, would you bless them today? Would

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you encourage them today? And Father, we always

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say this and we mean it from the bottom of our

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heart. We get to do this in Jesus' name. Amen.

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Amen. It's Wednesday, October 7th, 2026. We get

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to do this. This is episode number 53. We get

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to do this. Well, hallelujah, believers and Christ

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curious. Okay, you caught me off guard. All across

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Get To Nation. Hallelujah. The doers are here.

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I'm trying to think, you know, what can we say?

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And he goes, good morning, good afternoon. How

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about hallelujah? I'm channeling my Tommy Hayes

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here. Hallelujah. Oh man, yeah. You got to get

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your hand up in the air. There's something about

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it though, because I was recording here with

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Jonah last night for Young and Faithful, new

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episode. Find it on the Godcaster or Bridge Radio.

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and I'm walking by, Tommy has his class. I love

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our church because there's always somebody here,

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something going on, and I'm walking by and all

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I hear is, hallelujah. I'm like, yeah, there's

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Tommy. That's our boy. I love him. He's fantastic.

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He's an elder now. Yeah, we made him an elder

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of the church. We meet once a month as elders

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to pray for the church and pray for our city,

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pray for revival. I mean, that's our heart. This

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is the first time in my professional church career,

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where I've had elders where our primary purpose

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was to pray and to seek God's face. Because I

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didn't get a bunch of businessmen doing it. I

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was going to say your previous experiences might

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have been, here's how you got to run the church,

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here's how you got to run the business. Yeah,

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yeah, it's always that. But that's what we have

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a board of directors for and it works out great

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and beautifully. So we handle all that on that

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level. But I just love being able to get together

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with these men. to pray, seek God's face, and

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pray for revival. Nice. Yeah. Hallelujah! Tommy's

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one of those, and he always says, hallelujah.

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He gets excited. He does. My grandfather used

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to do that a lot. Oh, did he? Sometimes he'd

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just go, yahoo! He'd just cut it off, hallelujah

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down to, yahoo, yahoo! Wow. So we've been getting

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a lot of feedback on the substack wgtdt .com,

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which takes you right there. A lot of emails,

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adam at wgtdt .com, psjimmy at wgtdt .com. And

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just some feedback on the AI chat bot stuff that

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people have been sending because I have two opposing

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emails, which I wanted to share. The first one

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is from, let me see, this is from Shelly. And

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she says, I want to send you a note about Muse.

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And I've gotten a lot of these people saying,

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oh wow, this is kind of interesting. This is

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different from what I thought AI would be. I'm

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a homeschooling mom and a theater teacher. I

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also run a very small business building props

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and puppets for other theaters. All of my work

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is very hands -on and I hate admin work. After

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listening to you bang the AI drum, I decided

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to check out Muse. As a homeschool mom, I uploaded

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digital copies of physical curriculum, ordered

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my bot, thank you, to find the other stuff online

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and set up my kids homeschooling assignments

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for the week. That normally takes me about three

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hours. Bam, three hours back in the bank. Nice.

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Took it a step further, asked it to find some

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more in -depth activities and voila, it spat

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out near perfect spreadsheets with exactly what

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I asked for because this is a robot you command.

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It's not your buddy, it's not your chat bot,

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it's not your friend. It's not your spiritual

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advisor. Thank you. In my prop business, I've

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been stalled for about a year because digitizing

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the patterns that I've made is tedious and Adobe

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is a pain in the butt. Tell me about it. I laid

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out the pieces on a mat and within 20 minutes,

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Muse had put together a mostly correct pattern

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package so that it's sellable. Even better, it

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also created a program like Adobe that allows

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me to edit any of its work on these patterns.

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It's a game changer and the software building

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component is particularly interesting on so many

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levels. So this is the main difference between

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a chat bot and something like Muse or Grok bot

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is it has its own computer which is Well, technically

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not yours. It's owned by somebody else. So there's

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a downside risk always But I think that will

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change in the future And it can indeed create

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software programs for you to actually make you

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know to do things. So it turns I call it the

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dream build loop. You know, it tightens that

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so you can dream up something and then you can

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make it. So I just love hearing that. And I've

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gotten a lot of this from people saying, you

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know, I was really confused, worried about it

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going to kill me, going to make me kill myself.

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I mean, this is all the stuff that we've heard.

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Now, conversely, I got a note from Bill. He says,

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no, you're much more tech savvy and most likely

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more intelligent than I am. Thank you. I wouldn't

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say that. You're a professing Christian and I'm

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a professing born -again Christian. I mean, isn't

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that kind of the same? I mean, I was born again,

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so I'm not going to nitpick over it. I see data

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centers as a groundwork or mainframe software

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or hardware. You know more about systems terminology

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than I do. The Holy Spirit is leading me to see

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data centers as a necessary component for the

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one world beast system. digital currency, reference

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in Revelation 13, 16, 17, and 18. I'm curious

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if your thoughts about the coming beast system

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linked in any way to this insatiable desire for

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data centers. I don't believe data centers are

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for chat bots or any publicly stated purpose.

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I apologize if this note is convoluted. Just

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wanted to say hi. Thank you for the many months

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and obviously I will gather my thoughts about

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brevity warmly. Your brother in Christ, Bill.

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We talked about this, I think on the last show,

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or the show before, about the pending doom. And

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I encourage people to go back and listen to that,

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because the first thing is, you don't really

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have to be afraid of any of it, right? I mean,

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what are we afraid of? I mean, have you watched

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the Chinese Olympics with the robots? I mean,

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that right there takes the fear right away from

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me. I mean, it's hilarious. But seriously, I'm

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joking, but I'm just being lighthearted, but

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I have no fear. I mean, there is no fear. I see

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how prophecy lays out the end times, the last

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days, which we may be. We're closer than we were

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yesterday. For sure. But as far as seeing AI

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as a part of the great rebellion or whatever,

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the great delusion, all that. The jury's out

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for me. I'm not going to postulate on that because

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I am Very focused on what's in front of me. Yes,

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like who can I share the gospel with today and

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If we're in the last of the last days, you're

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gonna find me wondering Who can I share with

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the gospel with today? Yeah, I'm gonna be working

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until it's time to go But I'm not gonna overthink

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in terms of new technologies. You know the church

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in general This is a very broad stroke statement,

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has always been fearful of new tech. Every time

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something comes out, every time there's an advancement.

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The internet, that was seen as a satan incarnate.

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It's the Antichrist. Yeah, the Antichrist is

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here. You know, the Antichrist is now Islam.

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No, wait, it's China. No, wait, it's North Korea.

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I mean, no way. What do you mean? It's Hillary

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Clinton, man. Yeah, I mean, so, and I'm not disparaging

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what Bill's saying. I mean, I know he's pouring

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his heart into that. He's feeling led that way.

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But as far as fear goes and being spun up about

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this could be the great beast deceiver, I don't

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see it, but that's just me. I'm one opinion in

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a million, so billions. Yeah, but I think that

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that's the right attitude. It's like, it's coming

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no matter what, no matter what form. It's not

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like we can stop it. I think people have this

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idea, I got to not use it because then I can

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stop it from happening. Right, right. That's

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what I feel. And that's not going to happen.

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It's here. It's not going away. It's kind of

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like the web when it came out, you know, when

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it came online, what, early 90s? Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, all of a sudden it was like, oh, this

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is exciting. Oh no, this is awful. You know what

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I mean? It's like aspirin, it's medicine, it's

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a gun. I mean, those can be used for good or

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bad, protect or kill. So I see this as the same

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way. It is a tool and I'm excited about it. Not

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because I think it's a thing, a person or it's

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personified. I just think it's a good tool to

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save time. And there's very few things that have

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come forward in the technology world that actually

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save time. If anything, they take more time.

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Oh, yeah. No, they totally. Being one. It steals

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time. Yeah, yeah. The dark, the dark hole. But

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so I see it as. As long as you're using the tool

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and the tool's not using you, and that takes

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ongoing discernment, but that takes ongoing discernment

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with anything. Driving a car. Protein shakes.

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I mean, come on. You use discernment no matter

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what and for what. If it will help people with

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things that are repetitive, you know, actions,

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repetitive things that they do that are time,

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you know, they just eat up all your time and

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you can automate that, I think that's actually

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a very good thing. And just on the data centers,

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just to explain, I mean, people probably have

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never been inside a data center or they've seen

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pictures that look really intimidating. But just

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to give you an idea, if you're using Muse, but

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even if you're using Chad GPT, there's at least

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one computer, a virtual computer being run for

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you in that data center. The actual, the model,

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as they call it, the large language model that

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Runs the queries that that little computer that

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you're using That could be like a hundred times

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or maybe even a thousand times your computer

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at home So now of course these sizes are much

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different But you can already start to imagine

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how much space that takes up how much energy

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that requires Which you know data centers will

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and should be providing that for themselves or

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at least paying for it So it's not like it's

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a big, you know devil in there filled with all

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of your information. That's already in another

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data center. It's been there for 10 years. It's

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called iCloud. It's called X. It's called Instagram.

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It's called Facebook. It just looks like a big

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scary box, but they've been in our lives for

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me. I told you I built my first one in 2002.

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Well, one of our guys here in our church has

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been working for a company that does this for

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15 years. This is like no big deal to him. He's

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like, why is this all of a sudden a thing? Midterms.

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We need bells in here. We need bells. We need

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a snare drum and a hi -hat. So I was on an airplane

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two weeks ago, coming back from Nashville. And

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I thought to myself, huh, I should be able to

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use Grok on an airplane because it's not using

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my computer. This is not my processing. Boom,

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I was doing research and finding, I blew me away.

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You know, this is where you have a aha moment.

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It kind of sounds silly, but I'm on an airplane

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and I'm getting processing speed, just light

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year speed. right there in my hand on an airplane,

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flying in a tube in the air. It's a flying seat.

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It's mind -bending. Because I know I've said

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something. I always joke with you saying all

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your bots are like burning up. They're humming.

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They're making noise. People are mad. They're

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picketing. But now you're seeing it yourself.

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The power of it. Everyone I talk to, I got 10

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hours back. When people start talking like that,

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I get time back. My only question is, Are you

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filling that up with more work? That's good stuff.

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There you go. So what are you doing with that

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other time? And I actually am about to go and

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ask Pastor Russ if I can help with the screen

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here, because I got time back. Wow. I have time

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now, and I want to spend that wisely. Interesting

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how we talk about time as currency, isn't it?

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I want to spend it. I want to save it. Time is

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money. Exactly. Well, time is time, I guess.

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Time is life. So we got some fun things to talk

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about today, but there's a couple of things in

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media that I want to help our our doers out there

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and get to get to nation understand how things

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work and This is really predicated by Tina and

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I going back and watching the West Wing From

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episode one. We're now in the said there's seven

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season. This is season six and I got hooked on

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well, first of all It's very tame. There's not

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a lot of, you know, there's not a lot of graphic

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stuff. It's about politicking and inside politics.

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Nothing really new, but the thing that keeps

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surprising me, now you have to understand the

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premises. This is a democratic White House. Jed

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Bartlett played by Martin Sheen. He's the president.

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Good guy, of course. Only good people around

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him, but they're shenanigans. The thing that

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keeps amazing me is he, behind these closed doors,

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they're talking about and talking the same way

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President Trump does. Like, we should run for

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a third term. We've got to bomb Iran because

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they, you know, and they actually do. I mean,

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it's all these different things that President

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Trump says out loud. And of course, media is

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very different now from when this series started

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in the early 2000s. But what caught my eye, and

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there's a thing called pre -programming and media

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is very influential on how we think and why we

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think. And it's always done for Well, for two

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reasons. One, to promote some other entertainment

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product. So, you know, UFO is an alien. Oh, there's

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Steven Spielberg with a UFO movie. Noah's Ark.

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No. Well, I mean, it's used by lots of people

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for lots of things, but certainly Hollywood has

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always been very politically motivated. And this

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is a political show. So this is a play that this

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is in March 2005. And it is set in the so -called

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Democratic primaries and Republican primaries

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of 2006. So now we just had an election in real

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life in 2004, and it was President Bush against

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John Kerry. And man, that didn't turn out good

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for John Kerry. We had the swift boat scandal

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and all that stuff. And of course, it was a wartime

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president. But if you recall, At the 2004 Democratic

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convention, there was a very important speaker.

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Do you remember who that was? No. Barack Obama,

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a senator from Chicago who no one had ever seen.

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Young skinny man, looks like a basketball player.

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He got the big spot to speak. And of course,

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four years later, he was elected president. This

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was a meteoric rise. He didn't actually run for

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the Senate seat. He was appointed because of

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a sex scandal with the previous senator. We always

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looked at him like, hmm, isn't that interesting?

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Came out of nowhere. How he got in there. So

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this series, these particular episodes were written

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by, what's the guy's name, from MSNBC. Let me

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get this for you. Where is he here? Lawrence

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O'Donnell. You might have seen him MSNBC's kind

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of the gruff older guy and he's always, you know,

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Republicans are no good. So he actually wrote

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this series and the consultants on this were

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two political operatives. One of them was David

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Axelrod, who was the guy who literally managed

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Obama's presidential run. So now we're in the

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primary, the democratic primaries for the presidency

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and there's two candidates. One is played by

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Alan Alda, and he's Vinick. He's the Republican

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candidate. And he was supposed, and it even state,

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the producer said, this is supposed to be McCain,

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who of course later did run for president. Jimmy

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Smits, you know him from NYPD Blue. So he's the

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Democratic. candidate, and he was completely

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modeled after Barack Obama. So this is already

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pre -programming for an election coming up in

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2008. And I'm not going to spoil who wins, but

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you can kind of imagine how the show goes. So

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there's this scene. And the scene is with the

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current Democratic president. He only has two

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years left. And this is Martin Sheen Bartlett.

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And Alan Alda comes to visit him as the front

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runner of the Republican Party. And so now they're

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just talking, eating some ice cream in the White

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House kitchen at night. And I just wanted to

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listen to some of the things that were being

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pre -programmed into this hit show and millions

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of people watching it. Whatever happened to separation

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of church and state? It's hanging in there. But

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I'm afraid the Constitution doesn't say anything

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about the separation of church and politics.

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So already? This is untruthful. Wow. So whatever

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happened to separation of church and state, as

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we know, there is no clause of no such thing.

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And now it's already been turned to from church

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to religion. Faith never comes up. So this is

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kind of the premise of where this is going. And

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President Bartlett, the Democrat, is a Catholic

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boy. And it's interesting because he's going

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to mass. You know, things happen. He goes to

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the church. So he's very faithful, maybe religious,

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certainly. You're saying that's a good thing?

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saying it's the way it is, always has been. You

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think the voter really needs to know if I go

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to church? This is the Republican who hasn't

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been to church in six years. And he's asked about

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it. And he says, well, you know, I got TV interviews

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on Sunday. So this is a little bit of a bump

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in his campaign. And so now he's asking, why

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do people even care about this? This is the Republican.

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Imagine this, how this is played out 20 years

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ago. I don't need to know, but then I'm not going

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to vote for you anyway. It's not up to us to

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decide what the voters get to use in evaluating

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us. I don't know how you plan to handle this

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religious thing in the campaign. Yeah, well,

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that makes two of us. I could find a way to let

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it slip. I think a candidate's religion or how

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often he goes to church is not relevant to choosing

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a president. So here's a Democrat saying this,

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okay, but what is the Republican gonna say? You're

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gonna say that on the way into church? Are you

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accusing me of politicizing church -going? You've

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had an awful lot of photo ops on the church steps.

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I went to mass every Sunday long before I went

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into politics. I did too. Why didn't you stop?

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One Christmas my wife gave me a very old edition

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of the King James Bible. 17th century. It was

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a real find for a book collector. It was a thrill

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just to hold it. Then I read it. You can't take

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it literally. Yeah, well that's what my priest

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friends kept telling me. You can't take the Bible

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literally. This is already to me in my eye. I

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never would have heard this if I had watched

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it back then. I'm like, okay, okay. But the more

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I read it, the less I could believe. I could

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not believe there was a God who said that the

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penalty for working on the Sabbath was death.

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I couldn't believe there was a God who said the

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penalty for adultery was death. I'm more of a

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New Testament man myself. Wow, break this down

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for me right here because this already like so

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here's the God I got this old King James Bible

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like that doesn't include the New Testament somehow

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and like I could not believe a God who you know

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says the penalty for adultery is death and Then

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Bartlett says I'm more of a New Testament guy

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myself. You can't separate these two. No, can

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you? No, no You have to take the Bible as a whole.

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It's a narrative. It's a story arc and you have

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to take it as a whole The Old Testament is the

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New Testament concealed. The New Testament is

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the Old Testament revealed. So they work with

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each other. In fact, and I agree with this, when

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we had Todd McDowell here, he said, you literally

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cannot really understand a biblical worldview

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from a New Testament perspective if you don't

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know the Old Testament, if you've not studied

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and not not gotten into the history of how things

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happened. Because worldview is not built on a

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paragraph. It's not built in a moment. It's built

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in the cumulative knowledge and understanding

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of a particular situation. And the more understanding

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and knowledge and content you get on a situation,

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you get a better, clearer picture of it, right?

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This is a hard thing for new believers, for anyone

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who hasn't been in the Word for a while, to really...

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kind of grasp what you just said there. Yeah,

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it's a lot because it requires time and it requires

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effort. Most, let's be real, most people in our

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day and time, not all, but most, are biblically

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illiterate. And yet we're asking them to have

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a biblical worldview. Right. So we're going to

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be doing a seven -week series on biblical worldview,

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the pillars of biblical worldview, because we

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realize we're asking people to do something they're

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not ready to do. Yeah, not here, but Bridge Church.

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Bridge Church, not here. Don't panic. We'll talk

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about it. We'll bring it up. But anyway, all

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that is, is because whatever you're studying,

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reading, understanding about history, events

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from the past, they inform your worldview. So

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bringing that to something like what he was talking

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about here, say capital punishment, for example.

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Yeah, we're going to get there. you have to have

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a worldview and an understanding of both old

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and new. So let's clarify that based on this

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statement. You can't just be a New Testament

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Christian. Or just an Old Testament. There's

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no such thing. Yeah. So now, I'm going to skip

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the rest of that. You already get kind of the

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gist. Now, the Republican guy goes out and makes

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a statement about his faith, lack of faith, his

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church going, etc. And this was completely meant

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as programming people's minds about how to choose

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a candidate for president or vice president,

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etc. On the debt ceiling bill, we will pass it

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within the hour and send it to the president

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for his signature before midnight. What about

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the minimum wage amendment? We've agreed to have

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a separate vote on the minimum wage increase

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tomorrow. Is it going to pass? Yes, it will.

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I'll vote for it, and I guarantee you it'll be

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more than enough bipartisan support to pass it.

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Senator, are you going to reconsider Reverend

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Butler's invitation to his church this weekend?

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I fully respect Reverend Butler's position. I

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mean, I appreciate his invitation. And, uh, look,

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I respect Reverend Butler. And I respect his

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church too much to use it for my own political

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purposes. And that's exactly what I'd be doing

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if I went down there this Sunday. Because the

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truth is, it would just be an act of political

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phonings. I may be wrong, but I suspect our churches

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already have enough political phonies in them.

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Senator, do you or do you not? Let's see how

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we can have a separation of church and state

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in this government if you have to pass a religious

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test to get in this government. And I want to

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warn everyone in the press and all the voters

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out there, if you demand expressions of religious

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faith from politicians, you are just begging

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to be lied to. They won't all lie to you, but

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a lot of them will. And it'll be the easiest

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lie they ever had to tell to get your boats Notice

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the music. Oh get your nervous system going.

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Yeah How about that? That is the exact opposite

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of what? Believers should be doing and this is

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being set up like oh if they tell you they're

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men of faith They're lying to you. How about

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that? Yeah. Yeah, I mean this is we've seen this

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play out through the decades. Mm -hmm, you know

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when you hear people talking about their faith,

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like Barack Obama. Really? Are you Christian?

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Really? Are you Muslim? Well, it depends on who

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he's talking to. You could read that both ways.

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This is nothing new, and this is what, 2001?

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2005. 2005. And we're still seeing these things.

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I would say with our current president, He's

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a God -fearer. I'm not sure how deep in he really

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is in terms of the weeds, so to speak. But he

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holds nothing back in terms of allowing platforms

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for Christianity. And he says that he does it

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based on the founding of our nation, that there's

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precedent for this. So that's why he has no problem

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or qualms with it. Whether he's all in or not,

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I think he definitely is. built friendships with

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people who are, and so that's been a huge influence.

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But he's harkening back to our foundations of

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faith. what I hear, was that Alan Alda? I could

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totally recognize his voice. He won an Emmy Award

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for that role, specifically that episode. Interesting,

00:26:25.579 --> 00:26:28.460
interesting. And so interesting too, because

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you get that famous line, the separation of church

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and state, which is not in the Constitution or

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the Bill of Rights or the Declaration of Independence,

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none of that. And it was a complete aberration

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of a letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote to the

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Danbury Baptist Association, assuring them, that

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there would be no state -sponsored church, because

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that was the biggest fear. Because that's what

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they ran away from. That's why they came here.

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And so it was actually the very opposite, and

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yet it's been reinterpreted now, the opposite

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of what it was actually meant to say, what it

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said in context. So even hearing him quote that

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with the music in the background and all, everybody,

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oh yeah, yeah, the separation of church and state,

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isn't that in the Constitution or the Bill of

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Rights? Which amendment is that? So, I mean,

00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:20.259
people really think that's in our founding documents,

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and it is not, which is mind -bending how that

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got twisted. And I really bring the pre -programming

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part up because the subversive messaging about

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voting for someone with biblical values is much

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more sophisticated. And in fact, if you look

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at here in Texas, Tallarico, it's all being inverted.

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And it's very sophisticated. And so discernment

00:27:50.289 --> 00:27:52.789
is... In fact, I would say, I don't know if you

00:27:52.789 --> 00:27:57.569
heard Josh Howerton's bonus episode on Tallarico's

00:27:57.569 --> 00:28:00.150
appearance on Jimmy Kimmel. No, I did not. It's

00:28:00.150 --> 00:28:03.130
so good, we couldn't even replicate it. He did

00:28:03.130 --> 00:28:06.769
such a... And we're pretty good. He did such

00:28:06.769 --> 00:28:11.130
a good job of breaking down the lies. This was

00:28:11.130 --> 00:28:14.680
In Your Face. Like, listen, stupid people, if

00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:16.720
you're voting for somebody based upon him going

00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:19.259
to church, he's lying to you. You know, it's

00:28:19.259 --> 00:28:22.440
like, wow, okay, separation of church and state.

00:28:23.259 --> 00:28:27.980
All misinformation. There's no articles about

00:28:27.980 --> 00:28:30.480
it. I don't see any churches complaining about

00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:32.619
it. You had 15 million people watch this show.

00:28:32.619 --> 00:28:36.759
Wow. So politically motivated, here comes the

00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:39.500
capital punishment, which I... pretty much believe

00:28:39.500 --> 00:28:42.059
this will be in debates for the midterms. It's

00:28:42.059 --> 00:28:45.099
being played that way. And this is the Christa

00:28:45.099 --> 00:28:49.380
Pike failed execution. Right. Now this is not

00:28:49.380 --> 00:28:53.759
the October surprise, is it? No, I don't think

00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:54.980
it's the October. Is there something coming?

00:28:55.420 --> 00:28:59.319
Who knows? It's only the 7th of October. Anything

00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:04.180
can still happen. A lot of room. No, but it's

00:29:04.180 --> 00:29:07.119
interesting how the media has taken this story.

00:29:08.210 --> 00:29:11.009
And here's just, this is CNN, I think, with a

00:29:11.009 --> 00:29:13.150
little background on what happened. Krista Pike,

00:29:13.369 --> 00:29:16.289
a woman on death row in Tennessee, survived two

00:29:16.289 --> 00:29:19.509
doses of a lethal injection intended to execute

00:29:19.509 --> 00:29:21.849
her. But the drug used in the failed execution

00:29:21.849 --> 00:29:25.170
has a controversial past. Pentobarbital is a

00:29:25.170 --> 00:29:27.450
sedative that depresses the central nervous system.

00:29:27.730 --> 00:29:30.309
But critics of its use in lethal injections say

00:29:30.309 --> 00:29:32.910
that it can lead to a buildup of fluid in the

00:29:32.910 --> 00:29:35.319
lungs and create a feeling of suffocation. The

00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:37.779
Biden administration raised questions about whether

00:29:37.779 --> 00:29:40.480
Pentobarbital causes, quote, unnecessary pain

00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:42.980
and suffering as a single drug lethal injection.

00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:45.900
Notice already harkening back to the Biden administration's,

00:29:45.900 --> 00:29:48.259
you know, so just just so you know, it's this

00:29:48.259 --> 00:29:50.700
is Republicans, Republicans doing this rescinded

00:29:50.700 --> 00:29:53.420
its use as part of the protocol. In April, Attorney

00:29:53.420 --> 00:29:55.920
General Todd Blanch called Pento -Barbatel, quote,

00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:58.940
the gold standard of lethal injection drugs and

00:29:58.940 --> 00:30:01.240
said the US Department of Justice secured a source

00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:03.980
of it in 2019. And that gets to one of the big

00:30:03.980 --> 00:30:06.079
issues with drugs used for lethal injection.

00:30:06.299 --> 00:30:08.099
Pharmaceutical companies over the past decade

00:30:08.099 --> 00:30:10.559
and a half have largely tried to block their

00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:12.980
products from being used to kill people. So states

00:30:12.980 --> 00:30:15.480
and the federal government have had to seek alternative

00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.420
sources, leading experts to question the potency

00:30:18.420 --> 00:30:20.880
and quality of the drugs they acquire. Now, we

00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:23.579
still don't know why Pike survived the execution

00:30:23.579 --> 00:30:26.119
attempt. Some experts have suggested it could

00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:28.200
have been an error in administering the drug.

00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:30.480
And for decades, groups like the American Medical

00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.640
Association and American Nurses Association have

00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:36.160
opposed or prohibited members from participating

00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.700
in capital punishment, which makes it unclear

00:30:38.700 --> 00:30:40.839
who is involved in administering these lethal

00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:43.339
drugs. The Death Penalty Information Center says

00:30:43.339 --> 00:30:45.759
that one of the main reasons for botched lethal

00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:49.720
injections is an inability to insert an IV. Pike's

00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:51.940
attorneys say they had warned the court that

00:30:51.940 --> 00:30:54.619
Pike already had vein issues. Now they're asking

00:30:54.619 --> 00:30:57.019
Tennessee Governor Bill Lee to commute her sentence.

00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:02.559
Okay. A lot going on here. Yeah, that weird backing

00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:06.380
track. It's all meant to subvert your nervous

00:31:06.380 --> 00:31:08.720
system as you listen to it. It's mysterious.

00:31:09.500 --> 00:31:13.839
So what I'm hearing in this is killing people,

00:31:14.619 --> 00:31:20.119
bad, it's botched, Republicans, the administration.

00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:23.519
So, well, we got the gold standard. Maybe she

00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:28.220
should go free. What I don't hear in any of the

00:31:28.220 --> 00:31:32.200
reports, and this case took place in 1995, do

00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:33.839
you know why she was convicted of murder? That's

00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:35.400
what I want to know, but I haven't heard that

00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:37.799
yet. You have not heard this anywhere, which

00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.079
is why I suspect this is going to be a midterm

00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:42.240
issue about death penalty. It's going to come

00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:43.940
right back to, that's why we need to talk about

00:31:43.940 --> 00:31:47.200
capital punishment. You crazy right -wing Christians,

00:31:47.900 --> 00:31:49.720
Christian nationalists, want to kill everybody,

00:31:49.859 --> 00:31:51.460
but yet you don't believe it. What would Jesus

00:31:51.460 --> 00:31:54.619
do? This is all coming down. I can feel it and

00:31:54.619 --> 00:31:57.619
I think we're already hearing it in our own personal

00:31:57.619 --> 00:31:59.519
circles and friends Like well, what do you think

00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:03.420
about this? You know, did God save her? Was she

00:32:03.420 --> 00:32:05.519
is she a witch and she couldn't be killed and

00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.160
these are literally the questions Wow So let's

00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:11.380
go back and find out what she did from stories

00:32:11.380 --> 00:32:15.640
from WB IR in 1995 which you will not hear in

00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:18.400
today's reporting other than She killed somebody

00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:20.079
and tortured her. Maybe you didn't even hear

00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.420
the torture part Let's listen to the reports

00:32:22.420 --> 00:32:25.500
from this is now, what, 30 years ago. The brutal

00:32:25.500 --> 00:32:27.880
murder of 19 year old Coleen Slemmer created

00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.319
fear and speculation among students and staff

00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:33.180
Friday. Knoxville police quickly dispelled any

00:32:33.180 --> 00:32:35.579
myths about the case with a break in their investigation.

00:32:35.859 --> 00:32:38.599
It did not involve a university student. It did

00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:42.099
not occur on the bike trail. It was not a random

00:32:42.099 --> 00:32:48.390
or a stranger to stranger incident. A tip led

00:32:48.390 --> 00:32:50.750
authorities to Knoxville's Job Corps, where 18

00:32:50.750 --> 00:32:53.529
-year -old Krista Pike and 17 -year -old Terrell

00:32:53.529 --> 00:32:55.750
Shipp were arrested around 2 o 'clock Saturday

00:32:55.750 --> 00:32:58.390
morning. Police say the murder suspects were

00:32:58.390 --> 00:33:00.450
close to the victim. The motive of the crime

00:33:00.450 --> 00:33:03.950
appears to be a love triangle. It appears that

00:33:03.950 --> 00:33:08.690
both of the females involved had been involved

00:33:08.690 --> 00:33:11.900
with a 17 -year -old male. Investigators say

00:33:11.900 --> 00:33:14.160
the suspects led their victim to this isolated

00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:16.839
area of campus on the premise they'd smoke marijuana

00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:19.940
together. Instead, she was brutally stabbed and

00:33:19.940 --> 00:33:22.480
beaten. The victim's partially dressed body was

00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:25.119
found in this brushy area Friday morning. An

00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:27.299
autopsy confirmed she was slashed repeatedly

00:33:27.299 --> 00:33:29.640
with a meat cleaver and some other small cutting

00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:32.019
device, perhaps a razor blade or box opener.

00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:34.359
Authorities say she was then beaten over the

00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.000
head with a large chunk of asphalt from this

00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.630
pile. News of the arrest was quick to circulate

00:33:40.630 --> 00:33:43.109
around UT. I'm glad it wasn't a student, but

00:33:43.109 --> 00:33:44.950
still it's kind of, it's still frightening that

00:33:44.950 --> 00:33:46.730
it would happen over here. You just don't think

00:33:46.730 --> 00:33:48.309
it would ever happen to you. You think, well,

00:33:48.329 --> 00:33:50.690
you know, I'm 18, it's not gonna happen to me.

00:33:50.690 --> 00:33:54.150
I can walk and I know self -defense, but that

00:33:54.150 --> 00:33:56.029
really makes you stop and think. While the murder

00:33:56.029 --> 00:33:58.170
was not directly linked to the university, other

00:33:58.170 --> 00:34:00.730
than location, authorities say students and faculty

00:34:00.730 --> 00:34:03.650
should always exercise caution, especially at

00:34:03.650 --> 00:34:06.519
night in areas like this. So now you have the

00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:09.380
background. Let's hear the actual details of

00:34:09.380 --> 00:34:10.920
the torture. It's getting a little bit gruesome,

00:34:10.980 --> 00:34:15.239
but I'm surprised from a news media where if

00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.699
it bleeds, it leads, and the more gruesome, the

00:34:17.699 --> 00:34:19.840
better. They want to show it all. They want to

00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:22.599
talk about it. They're not doing that right now,

00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.500
but they did 30 years ago. A choice Christa Gale

00:34:25.500 --> 00:34:28.400
Pike made more than 30 years ago is the reason

00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.619
she's said to die by lethal injection. In January

00:34:31.619 --> 00:34:35.739
1995, Pike was 18 years old, a student in the

00:34:35.739 --> 00:34:38.619
Knoxville Job Corps. Pike suspected fellow student

00:34:38.619 --> 00:34:41.199
Colleen Slemmer was interested in her boyfriend

00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:44.179
to Daryl Shipp. Shipp and Pike invited her to

00:34:44.179 --> 00:34:46.480
plans that night. Investigators say the suspects

00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:49.139
led their victim to this isolated area of campus.

00:34:49.380 --> 00:34:51.320
On the premise, they'd smoke marijuana together.

00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:54.389
A rainy night. That would change. all of their

00:34:54.389 --> 00:34:58.030
lives. The young woman's badly beaten body was

00:34:58.030 --> 00:35:01.190
found in a remote area of UT's ag campus. For

00:35:01.190 --> 00:35:03.929
at least half an hour, the pair tortured their

00:35:03.929 --> 00:35:06.289
classmate. The victim's partially dressed body

00:35:06.289 --> 00:35:08.469
was found in this brushy area Friday morning.

00:35:09.050 --> 00:35:11.369
An autopsy confirmed she was slashed repeatedly

00:35:11.369 --> 00:35:13.690
with a meat cleaver and some other small cutting

00:35:13.690 --> 00:35:16.110
device, perhaps a razor blade or box opener.

00:35:16.570 --> 00:35:19.449
Shadala Peterson was present. Well, she was there,

00:35:19.829 --> 00:35:23.579
but she had no part in this killing. Slemmer

00:35:23.579 --> 00:35:26.139
told them she'd move back home and tell no one,

00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:30.019
if they let her go. A pentagram, a five -pointed

00:35:30.019 --> 00:35:33.179
star, a symbol of Satan, was carved into her

00:35:33.179 --> 00:35:36.539
chest. Pike dealt a final blow, breaking her

00:35:36.539 --> 00:35:38.920
skull with a piece of asphalt. Peterson went

00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:41.119
on to say Pike took a piece of Slemmer's skull

00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:43.500
and put it in her pocket. The next morning, she

00:35:43.500 --> 00:35:46.239
showed off the skull fragment to friends. OK.

00:35:47.019 --> 00:35:49.480
Does that change your mind about this case, maybe?

00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:58.409
Wow. Man, yeah, that's intense. So this is satanic,

00:35:58.929 --> 00:36:02.590
but we're not hearing that. So what's going to

00:36:02.590 --> 00:36:04.909
happen is we're going to have a debate over capital

00:36:04.909 --> 00:36:09.670
punishment. And so how do we, as believers and

00:36:09.670 --> 00:36:12.550
Christ curious, what is the biblical worldview?

00:36:12.750 --> 00:36:15.550
Because you have government, you have the person,

00:36:16.210 --> 00:36:20.630
and this is a complicated one. I want to be...

00:36:20.300 --> 00:36:23.199
ready for when someone asks me about this. Because

00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:25.940
you believe in God. You don't believe in killing

00:36:25.940 --> 00:36:28.219
people. God, you can't do that. Or does God say,

00:36:28.300 --> 00:36:30.380
you got to kill them? Well, let's clarify. First

00:36:30.380 --> 00:36:33.440
of all, no one is to take revenge and take a

00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:37.760
life. Just get that out in front because people,

00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.559
they just say death is death no matter who does

00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:43.760
it. But that's not true. A person, an individual

00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:48.219
cannot revenge or avenge any wrong through the

00:36:48.219 --> 00:36:51.739
killing of another human being, period. So, end

00:36:51.739 --> 00:36:54.480
of story. Well, then capital punishment's evil.

00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:56.980
No, that isn't what I said. I said an individual

00:36:56.980 --> 00:37:00.099
cannot do that, but a government can. In fact,

00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.619
governments are directed by God, both Old and

00:37:02.619 --> 00:37:05.900
New Testament, to take care of evildoers, to

00:37:05.900 --> 00:37:08.440
punish them. And I've got some scriptures here,

00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:11.539
Genesis 9, 6, talks about... Let's just talk

00:37:11.539 --> 00:37:14.739
about the sanctity of human life, right? So,

00:37:14.900 --> 00:37:18.650
the biblical argument is this. This grounds the

00:37:18.650 --> 00:37:21.150
issue in the image of God. So biblical argument

00:37:21.150 --> 00:37:23.690
is not that life is cheap. It's that human life

00:37:23.690 --> 00:37:26.489
is so valuable that intentionally taking innocent

00:37:26.489 --> 00:37:28.730
life is treated with the utmost seriousness.

00:37:29.030 --> 00:37:31.090
So I'm taking this back a little bit because

00:37:31.090 --> 00:37:33.190
I'm going to give you a worldview, not just to

00:37:33.190 --> 00:37:35.889
try to answer. Second thing, personal vengeance

00:37:35.889 --> 00:37:37.670
and civil justice are different. That's what

00:37:37.670 --> 00:37:39.630
I was saying from the beginning. So we're talking

00:37:39.630 --> 00:37:42.289
about two different things. We're talking in

00:37:42.289 --> 00:37:45.849
this case, civil justice. This has been through

00:37:45.849 --> 00:37:49.030
a court system, it's been planned, all that.

00:37:49.269 --> 00:37:52.449
And it's based on the horrific nature of the

00:37:52.449 --> 00:37:56.190
crime. So there's context and evidence and all

00:37:56.190 --> 00:37:57.869
those things that come into play. And admission

00:37:57.869 --> 00:38:01.469
in this case. So Romans 12, 19 says this, Christians

00:38:01.469 --> 00:38:04.670
are not to avenge themselves. So we don't take

00:38:04.670 --> 00:38:08.210
or exact revenge on anyone. But Romans 13, the

00:38:08.210 --> 00:38:10.750
next chapter, says that governing authorities

00:38:10.750 --> 00:38:15.019
are responsible to restrain evil and do not bear

00:38:15.019 --> 00:38:17.539
the sword in vain. So they bear a sword. They

00:38:17.539 --> 00:38:21.099
do bear a sword. And so the Bible separates personal

00:38:21.099 --> 00:38:25.880
revenge and vengeance, which is forbidden from

00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:29.960
civil justice, which is authorized. Okay. So

00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.320
we're not talking about personal revenge in this

00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:34.679
case and capital punishment or in any capital

00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:37.559
punishment case. It's not about that. It's about

00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:41.260
civil justice being authorized by God and by

00:38:41.260 --> 00:38:46.440
scripture to to deal justly to exact justice

00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:50.139
upon the criminal of the crime. Scripture recognizes

00:38:50.139 --> 00:38:53.199
crimes worthy of death. There's many of them,

00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:56.139
several. In the book of Acts, Paul says this

00:38:56.139 --> 00:39:00.579
in Acts 25 -11, if I am an offender or have committed

00:39:00.579 --> 00:39:03.820
anything deserving of death, I should die. I

00:39:03.820 --> 00:39:06.000
do not object to dying. This is Paul saying,

00:39:06.099 --> 00:39:08.619
look, if I did something that's worthy of that

00:39:08.619 --> 00:39:11.210
or deserving of it, then I should die. Paul's

00:39:11.210 --> 00:39:12.730
argument was not that capital punishment was

00:39:12.730 --> 00:39:15.309
inherently wrong. His argument was that he was

00:39:15.309 --> 00:39:18.050
innocent of the charges. But he was using that

00:39:18.050 --> 00:39:21.610
as case precedent, right? And then here's another

00:39:21.610 --> 00:39:24.449
one. Biblical justice demands a very high standard.

00:39:24.849 --> 00:39:26.710
The Old Testament required witnesses, evidence,

00:39:26.869 --> 00:39:29.489
and distinctions between murder and accidental

00:39:29.489 --> 00:39:32.869
death. So there's an issue there. So if government

00:39:32.869 --> 00:39:35.250
has the authority to take a life, it also bears

00:39:35.250 --> 00:39:37.889
an enormous responsibility to get the judgment

00:39:37.889 --> 00:39:41.519
right. So there's that plays in. But how does

00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:44.579
this work when we shouldn't be electing our politicians

00:39:44.579 --> 00:39:49.340
based upon their faith? Right. You see where

00:39:49.340 --> 00:39:51.679
I'm coming from? Oh, I do. Which is why we were

00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:54.119
told that this grand experiment called the United

00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:56.900
States would not work unless you had a religious

00:39:56.900 --> 00:39:59.800
and moral people. Yes. That's right. Right. So

00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:01.880
let's go back to the beginning, right? Capital

00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:04.039
punishment should never be about rage, revenge,

00:40:04.219 --> 00:40:06.980
politics, or mob justice. So, that's it. That's

00:40:06.980 --> 00:40:09.559
forbidden by God. So, here's a simple summary.

00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:13.780
My position is that capital punishment can be

00:40:13.780 --> 00:40:16.179
defended biblically as a legitimate function

00:40:16.179 --> 00:40:19.599
of civil government, especially in cases of intentional

00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.199
murder, which we already have admission, proof,

00:40:22.460 --> 00:40:24.940
everything. But the biblical argument is rooted

00:40:24.940 --> 00:40:28.179
in the value of human life, not vengeance, okay?

00:40:28.579 --> 00:40:31.679
Christians can support justice, demand due process,

00:40:31.699 --> 00:40:34.510
and at the same time, pray for the repentance

00:40:34.510 --> 00:40:37.170
and salvation of the guilty person. Now, this

00:40:37.170 --> 00:40:40.449
is where we come in, where we say, okay, civil

00:40:40.449 --> 00:40:43.949
government has already said that there are crimes

00:40:43.949 --> 00:40:46.849
that are worthy of death. A crime worthy of death

00:40:46.849 --> 00:40:48.690
has been committed, it has been admitted to,

00:40:48.769 --> 00:40:51.170
it has been proven, due process has happened.

00:40:51.769 --> 00:40:54.989
And now 30 years later, we're talking about it.

00:40:55.369 --> 00:40:58.710
But it's not about vengeance, it's about, for

00:40:58.710 --> 00:41:03.010
us, praying for that life of that person. I mean,

00:41:03.090 --> 00:41:05.650
I pray for evil people all the time. This is

00:41:05.650 --> 00:41:09.070
what we do as Christians because ultimately our

00:41:09.070 --> 00:41:14.130
goal isn't punishment, it is redemption. We want

00:41:14.130 --> 00:41:16.989
to see people redeemed. Now, there are natural

00:41:16.989 --> 00:41:20.150
logical consequences to the things we do. There

00:41:20.150 --> 00:41:22.630
are civic consequences to the things we do. There

00:41:22.630 --> 00:41:24.889
are spiritual consequences to the things we do.

00:41:25.190 --> 00:41:27.630
And you've got to parse those out. And so at

00:41:27.630 --> 00:41:30.579
the end of the day, we can support justice. demand

00:41:30.579 --> 00:41:33.559
due process, and at the same time, pray for repentance

00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:36.760
and salvation of the guilty person. Justice and

00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:41.340
mercy are not opposites. Got to realize that.

00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:44.880
Mercy works because of justice. Mercy is not

00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:48.300
a free pass. It works because justice exists

00:41:48.300 --> 00:41:51.559
and it's needed. And at the cross, we see both

00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:56.019
punishment of sin, capital punishment, and mercy.

00:41:57.579 --> 00:42:04.820
So, the shortcut for people is God gives those

00:42:04.820 --> 00:42:10.099
decisions and power to government, and we pray

00:42:10.099 --> 00:42:13.800
that we elect the right governing leaders who

00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:15.860
we were supposed to pray for anyway, no matter

00:42:15.860 --> 00:42:18.400
who we elected, or if someone is elected who

00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:22.699
we didn't vote for, that is continuously our

00:42:22.699 --> 00:42:25.369
duty. See, that's, I think, the step that people

00:42:25.369 --> 00:42:29.110
don't realize. They don't because we see things

00:42:29.110 --> 00:42:32.250
on such a just face value. We don't think about

00:42:32.250 --> 00:42:34.570
what's behind that thought, what's behind that

00:42:34.570 --> 00:42:37.449
action. That's why a biblical worldview is so

00:42:37.449 --> 00:42:41.190
important to understand is that God set up governments.

00:42:41.630 --> 00:42:44.150
God ordained family. He ordained government.

00:42:44.769 --> 00:42:47.369
He ordained these things. So they're there. And

00:42:47.369 --> 00:42:49.949
in Romans chapter 13, it tells us straight up,

00:42:50.170 --> 00:42:54.289
they are there to execute judgment. on evildoers,

00:42:54.670 --> 00:42:58.170
but also to bless those who aren't, those who

00:42:58.170 --> 00:43:02.210
do right. So it's there to bless and to exact

00:43:02.210 --> 00:43:05.780
punishment. And I'm not even sure that this was

00:43:05.780 --> 00:43:07.840
a botched thing, to be honest about it, brother.

00:43:08.019 --> 00:43:10.579
Really? I'm not sure what the circumstances.

00:43:10.619 --> 00:43:12.940
Canada has no problem. If you want to die, they'll

00:43:12.940 --> 00:43:15.400
kill you in one minute and 30 seconds. They have,

00:43:15.420 --> 00:43:18.019
it seems to work all the time with their assisted

00:43:18.019 --> 00:43:20.119
death program. So what are you thinking? I mean,

00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:23.480
what do you? Midterms. I don't put anything past

00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:26.000
the enemy brother. I don't put anything past

00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:28.280
these people. This could have been a complete

00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:31.699
intentional. Very possible. I mean, why didn't

00:43:31.699 --> 00:43:34.900
it work? That's just weird. Is she? Well, I'm

00:43:34.900 --> 00:43:37.599
hearing all these like, oh, your platelets. Is

00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.940
she debilitated now? I mean, no, no, she's now

00:43:40.940 --> 00:43:44.559
speaking. Wow. She's she's come back. So now

00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:48.250
we give her a free pass. Well, tell me. Pastor,

00:43:48.389 --> 00:43:51.150
I don't think we should. The conviction was in.

00:43:51.449 --> 00:43:53.250
This is going to be the next question. Well,

00:43:53.510 --> 00:43:57.429
if she survived it, shouldn't she live? Is there

00:43:57.429 --> 00:43:59.829
a law? Is there precedent on this? This is government

00:43:59.829 --> 00:44:01.929
decisions. This has happened in the past, yeah.

00:44:01.989 --> 00:44:04.829
And typically they execute the prisoner afterwards.

00:44:05.630 --> 00:44:09.269
That's the precedent for it. So people are all

00:44:09.269 --> 00:44:11.690
compassionate because it didn't take this cruel

00:44:11.690 --> 00:44:13.030
and unusual punishment, which is an issue. And

00:44:13.030 --> 00:44:18.030
that's why we didn't hear the actual crime. Thank

00:44:18.030 --> 00:44:20.710
you for that, because that actually informs even

00:44:20.710 --> 00:44:23.889
the way I see this thing. Now, I felt compassion

00:44:23.889 --> 00:44:25.909
just because, yeah, I'd rather just be done.

00:44:26.190 --> 00:44:28.289
I mean, I hate that she had to go through all

00:44:28.289 --> 00:44:31.650
that and not die. That's weird. I've never heard

00:44:31.650 --> 00:44:34.570
of this happening before. No, it's happened several

00:44:34.570 --> 00:44:37.969
times. Wow. Yeah. This is new to me. And then

00:44:37.969 --> 00:44:41.269
the sentence was carried out. Yeah. Okay. So

00:44:41.269 --> 00:44:43.130
there's precedent. There's precedent for it.

00:44:43.550 --> 00:44:47.090
But that's why I don't trust this reporting because

00:44:47.090 --> 00:44:49.550
we didn't hear the original reporting from 30

00:44:49.550 --> 00:44:52.869
years ago. This is a heinous crime. And then

00:44:52.869 --> 00:44:54.510
like, look, I got a piece of the skull showing

00:44:54.510 --> 00:44:56.889
it to the students the next day. Come on now.

00:44:59.269 --> 00:45:02.869
Anyway. No, that's good. Good boy. But I hope

00:45:02.869 --> 00:45:04.929
that helps people from a biblical perspective

00:45:04.929 --> 00:45:08.909
see that, yeah, God exacts punishment. He inacts

00:45:08.909 --> 00:45:13.969
justice. And then He puts that in the civics

00:45:13.969 --> 00:45:16.449
realm, the government realm, which He ordained.

00:45:16.730 --> 00:45:20.519
And so, yeah, there's justifiable. And I'm pretty

00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:24.280
sure it's meant to confuse people. The way this

00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:26.340
reporting is done is to scramble your brains.

00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:33.000
And it's a weird bridge to make, but not only

00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:37.039
your message on Sunday, but Pastor Russ '… I

00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:42.639
mean, he was doing the communion, which is typically…

00:45:42.750 --> 00:45:45.409
you know, you set it up, you talk about the blood

00:45:45.409 --> 00:45:48.530
of Christ, the body of Christ. It's a lead into

00:45:48.530 --> 00:45:52.269
our donation segment. But he stood up there and

00:45:52.269 --> 00:45:54.769
he had the podium and he had the lectern and

00:45:54.769 --> 00:45:57.710
everything, and he just like put into such simple

00:45:57.710 --> 00:46:00.550
terms as like an opening act for your message

00:46:00.550 --> 00:46:05.230
about the lies that we tell ourselves. And this

00:46:05.230 --> 00:46:08.989
comes back to your four Rs, which a lot of people

00:46:08.989 --> 00:46:12.309
responded to from the last episode. We have to

00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:15.239
Talk about that again. Yeah. Yeah. Let's unpack

00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:17.820
some of that. Well, first of all, what are the

00:46:17.820 --> 00:46:20.179
four Rs and why are they even this? Why would

00:46:20.179 --> 00:46:21.920
people even be interested in them? So let me

00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:25.019
just read them to you straight up. Four Rs. One

00:46:25.019 --> 00:46:28.679
is recognize what? You're recognizing the lies

00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:31.059
that come. Love the way John Eldridge puts it

00:46:31.059 --> 00:46:33.960
when he talks about how things come to us. Lies

00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:38.199
come to us. False things come to us. False thoughts.

00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:42.719
unhealthy, wrong thinking, all that stuff that

00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.880
the mind war that we have. I'm no good. I'm ugly.

00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:47.880
I'm a loser. It's never going to work out. I'm

00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:50.280
not going to happen. I'm going to be alone for

00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:52.260
the rest of my life. Yep. Yep. I'm never going

00:46:52.260 --> 00:46:53.920
to make it. Never going to move forward in my

00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:57.019
career. All of that. And man, it gets more, it

00:46:57.019 --> 00:46:59.159
gets uglier than that if, and anyone who's looked

00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:01.300
in the mirror can tell you that they've got their

00:47:01.300 --> 00:47:03.800
own mind wars going. So, but how do you combat

00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:06.380
that? And first of all, do you recognize this

00:47:06.380 --> 00:47:08.849
might not be me thinking this? That's what I

00:47:08.849 --> 00:47:11.409
like so much about this. That's what's critical.

00:47:12.650 --> 00:47:14.170
Eldridge, we showed a clip from John Eldridge

00:47:14.170 --> 00:47:17.909
where he made this comment. He said, in fact,

00:47:18.409 --> 00:47:20.889
we played on last program. This is very good.

00:47:21.110 --> 00:47:24.630
This clip's good. It's a good setup for helping

00:47:24.630 --> 00:47:34.429
people understand the four Rs. It's a podcast

00:47:34.429 --> 00:47:36.690
by Ryan. I got it. I got it. I got it. Yeah,

00:47:36.690 --> 00:47:38.849
this is good. It took me a second. What is your

00:47:38.849 --> 00:47:41.869
prescription for taking inventory of agreements?

00:47:41.929 --> 00:47:43.510
Because it sounds like this is not like, oh,

00:47:43.590 --> 00:47:46.059
I... I was open to agreements at one point. It

00:47:46.059 --> 00:47:48.760
sounds like our entire lives, we are constantly,

00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:52.420
you know, at risk of accepting these things because

00:47:52.420 --> 00:47:54.019
it's being dark, it's being thrown at us. So

00:47:54.019 --> 00:47:57.179
what's John's wisdom for taking inventory? And

00:47:57.179 --> 00:47:58.960
when should we stop and say, hey, is there anything

00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:02.019
I'm, you know, wow, that got me? And I didn't

00:48:02.019 --> 00:48:04.559
even realize that. Yes. OK, let's first come

00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:07.519
back for a moment to our worldview. You live

00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:12.869
in a love story set in a world at war. It is

00:48:12.869 --> 00:48:16.059
a love story. The centerpiece is the love story,

00:48:16.619 --> 00:48:22.880
but you are surrounded by war. Revelation 12,

00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:25.360
and he went off to make war against her offspring,

00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:28.780
speaking of Mary, those who hold to the testimony

00:48:28.780 --> 00:48:31.400
of Jesus, right? So particularly if you're a

00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:33.539
Christian, you live in a world at war, folks,

00:48:33.619 --> 00:48:36.400
so that yes, this is going to be part of your...

00:48:36.510 --> 00:48:38.630
toolkit for the rest of your life. It's very

00:48:38.630 --> 00:48:41.349
helpful. I would say, Ryan, a couple of things.

00:48:41.570 --> 00:48:45.880
One is pay attention to your inner chatter, right?

00:48:46.099 --> 00:48:50.980
Like tune in. Don't be oblivious to your internal

00:48:50.980 --> 00:48:54.300
world and the kind of things that you think.

00:48:54.699 --> 00:48:56.820
See, this is the other lovely thing is to realize

00:48:56.820 --> 00:48:58.599
not every thought that goes through your head

00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:02.550
is from you. That's actually a very freeing thing

00:49:02.550 --> 00:49:05.250
for most people to go, oh my gosh, this negative

00:49:05.250 --> 00:49:07.849
talk. You mean, it's not all me? No, it's not.

00:49:07.909 --> 00:49:12.090
You have an enemy. But pay attention, but particularly

00:49:12.090 --> 00:49:15.769
notice, I'm gonna give you three things. Pay

00:49:15.769 --> 00:49:18.510
attention to the internal chatter. Notice what

00:49:18.510 --> 00:49:22.050
comes out of your mouth when you blow it, when

00:49:22.050 --> 00:49:25.130
you look in the mirror, right? I mean, some people

00:49:25.130 --> 00:49:27.230
look in the mirror and just go, you're such an,

00:49:27.230 --> 00:49:31.019
you know, and I. expletives, or you're just so

00:49:31.019 --> 00:49:35.000
ugly, I can't believe you, or even self -hatred.

00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:38.000
I hate you. I just hate you. It'll come out of

00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:41.460
your mouth, folks, these agreements. But thirdly,

00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:44.099
and probably the most easiest test is, one of

00:49:44.099 --> 00:49:46.039
the things Jesus gave us is, you shall know them

00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:49.969
by their fruit. You can test anything by this.

00:49:50.389 --> 00:49:55.130
Is the fruit love, joy, peace? I just want to

00:49:55.130 --> 00:49:57.349
stop there. That's so good. The fruit itself,

00:49:57.469 --> 00:50:00.869
is that literally the nine? Yes, fruit of the

00:50:00.869 --> 00:50:04.929
Spirit. So it's love, joy, peace, goodness, godliness,

00:50:05.309 --> 00:50:08.269
kindness, faithfulness. You're close. Patience

00:50:08.269 --> 00:50:10.030
and self -control. I have nine. They may not

00:50:10.030 --> 00:50:12.150
be the right nine. Yeah, yeah. Godliness isn't

00:50:12.150 --> 00:50:14.969
in there. Goodness is, though. Love, joy, peace,

00:50:15.250 --> 00:50:17.469
patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness

00:50:17.469 --> 00:50:19.849
and self -control. So those are the nine fruit

00:50:19.849 --> 00:50:22.909
of the Spirit, not of the flesh, of the Spirit.

00:50:23.050 --> 00:50:25.389
OK, let's continue because he only he did like

00:50:25.389 --> 00:50:27.070
a couple there like, hold on a second. I got

00:50:27.070 --> 00:50:30.530
to get them all fruit. OK, you can test anything

00:50:30.530 --> 00:50:35.030
by this is the fruit love, joy, peace. You know,

00:50:35.289 --> 00:50:39.230
is it goodness? Is it intimacy with God? Or is

00:50:39.230 --> 00:50:43.250
it discouragement, despair, fear, anxiety producing?

00:50:44.070 --> 00:50:48.380
Look at the fruit of it and just go, wow. Why

00:50:48.380 --> 00:50:50.760
am I so afraid in this relationship right now?

00:50:51.059 --> 00:50:54.900
So if it's not one of those nine, or let me,

00:50:55.300 --> 00:50:57.500
I guess, self -control, I mean, I don't know

00:50:57.500 --> 00:50:58.920
if you look in the mirror and you have self -control,

00:50:59.179 --> 00:51:02.019
but if it doesn't fit in any of those nine, then

00:51:02.019 --> 00:51:06.190
it's definitely not from me. Well, actually it

00:51:06.190 --> 00:51:08.869
could be, because we can also disparage ourselves,

00:51:09.170 --> 00:51:11.989
but realize there's a higher influence going

00:51:11.989 --> 00:51:16.269
on, and that's the liar. The Bible says, Jesus

00:51:16.269 --> 00:51:18.789
was very clear in John chapter 8 that the devil,

00:51:19.630 --> 00:51:21.889
he's talking to the Pharisee, the religious rulers,

00:51:21.949 --> 00:51:24.449
and he's really reaming them out. He's saying,

00:51:25.010 --> 00:51:28.590
you are of your father, the devil. And then he

00:51:28.590 --> 00:51:31.230
says who the devil was. He was a murderer from

00:51:31.230 --> 00:51:34.730
the beginning. a liar and the father of it. I

00:51:34.730 --> 00:51:37.570
mean, that's how Jesus describes the devil. A

00:51:37.570 --> 00:51:40.929
murderer from the beginning, a liar and the father

00:51:40.929 --> 00:51:43.329
of it, of what lies? The father of lies. That's

00:51:43.329 --> 00:51:44.989
why you hear people say, oh, the devil is the

00:51:44.989 --> 00:51:47.670
father of lies. That's his nature. That's his

00:51:47.670 --> 00:51:50.150
character. So that's how he responds to everything.

00:51:50.730 --> 00:51:53.530
So when things are coming into your mind, it

00:51:53.530 --> 00:51:56.610
may be you, because we can disparage ourselves.

00:51:56.630 --> 00:51:59.650
We can talk bad about ourselves. But he's saying,

00:51:59.650 --> 00:52:02.769
look at the fruit. If what's coming into your

00:52:02.769 --> 00:52:08.650
mind is goodness, joy, peace, patience, kindness,

00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:13.260
gentleness, love, if it's that, oh yeah, man,

00:52:13.260 --> 00:52:16.199
that's good, that's God. But if it's anything

00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:22.679
else, like he said, disparaging, despair, fear,

00:52:24.219 --> 00:52:28.639
anxiety, all those things, sometimes it's us.

00:52:28.940 --> 00:52:32.219
But more often than not, it's demonic in nature.

00:52:32.380 --> 00:52:34.519
And this is truly where it came down for me.

00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:37.039
It's like if there's evil in the world, there

00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:38.940
has to be good. I started with the evil part.

00:52:40.139 --> 00:52:44.260
But the spiritual warfare is what is real. There

00:52:44.260 --> 00:52:48.800
is a real devil. There is a real Satan. And I

00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:50.980
just need to say it out loud so people can hear

00:52:50.980 --> 00:52:53.360
me say it. There's a real Satan. There's a real

00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:56.699
God. There's an unseen realm. That was what Michael

00:52:56.699 --> 00:53:00.280
Heiser called it, the unseen realm. And then

00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:03.300
Dr. Jack Taylor later years before that even

00:53:03.300 --> 00:53:06.900
said in his great book called The Hallelujah

00:53:06.900 --> 00:53:10.559
Factor, he said this, he said, the spiritual

00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:13.860
realm, the unseen realm is actually more real

00:53:13.860 --> 00:53:18.219
than this realm. We're stuck. I mean, we're so

00:53:18.219 --> 00:53:21.860
limited here, right? With matter, gravity, force.

00:53:23.139 --> 00:53:27.039
We're stuck. We're very trapped in a very real

00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:30.059
way. But in the spiritual realm, there's complete

00:53:30.059 --> 00:53:33.780
freedom and it's a whole other world, another

00:53:33.780 --> 00:53:37.380
realm. It's called the kingdom of God and it's

00:53:37.380 --> 00:53:40.480
different. And in that realm, there's not that

00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:43.199
limitation. It's actually more real than what

00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:45.360
we're living in now because we live in a fallen

00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:49.260
world. We live in a bad copy of what it was supposed

00:53:49.260 --> 00:53:53.860
to be, like a fax of a fax of a fax. After a

00:53:53.860 --> 00:53:56.079
few of those, you can't read anything, right?

00:53:56.400 --> 00:54:00.480
And so that's what he's talking about. So the

00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:04.659
enemy traffics in both the natural realm and

00:54:04.659 --> 00:54:08.739
the supernatural realm. And boy, can he ever

00:54:08.739 --> 00:54:11.360
whisper things into your mind, whisper things.

00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:14.000
You're no good. You're not going to make it.

00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:19.260
You're a loser. Okay, so we got recognized. So

00:54:19.260 --> 00:54:21.460
that's probably the hardest part. First one,

00:54:21.460 --> 00:54:24.059
recognize the lie. In fact, you can literally

00:54:24.059 --> 00:54:29.639
pray. I like to clarify right here. What am I

00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:33.920
believing that contradicts God's Word? So if

00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:36.960
you're hearing, you're not going to make it.

00:54:38.019 --> 00:54:42.989
Nobody loves you. What am I believing about that

00:54:42.989 --> 00:54:45.690
that contradicts God's Word? We got to know God's

00:54:45.690 --> 00:54:48.829
Word. And here's the key. This is why biblical

00:54:48.829 --> 00:54:52.969
illiteracy is so dangerous. Because you have

00:54:52.969 --> 00:54:56.130
to work the Word. The Word works, but you have

00:54:56.130 --> 00:54:57.929
to know how to work it. And if you don't know

00:54:57.929 --> 00:55:00.530
the Word, you can't work it. And if you can't

00:55:00.530 --> 00:55:03.530
work it, you're in trouble. You won't be able

00:55:03.530 --> 00:55:07.269
to discern a lie from the truth. It goes way

00:55:07.269 --> 00:55:10.070
back there. So recognize the lives. And once

00:55:10.070 --> 00:55:13.010
you recognize, and I always ask this question,

00:55:13.510 --> 00:55:17.750
Jesus, is this true? Yeah. Is this true about

00:55:17.750 --> 00:55:21.570
me? Am I what this voice in my head is saying

00:55:21.570 --> 00:55:25.949
I am? And I'll 99, I have a hundred times, oh

00:55:25.949 --> 00:55:29.769
no, oh no. Now I don't hear a voice. He didn't

00:55:29.769 --> 00:55:31.690
talk to me that way. He'll show me something

00:55:31.690 --> 00:55:33.510
in the word of the scripture or I'll remember

00:55:33.510 --> 00:55:36.190
a scripture. He says, wait, the Bible says I'm

00:55:36.190 --> 00:55:39.239
his beloved. The Bible says I'm above only, not

00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:42.159
beneath. The Bible says I'm his son. Son of a

00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:45.059
king. Yeah, wow. The Bible says I've been adopted

00:55:45.059 --> 00:55:50.400
by him. The Bible says I am above reproach. Colossians

00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:53.239
1 .22. I'm afraid to quote scriptures because

00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:55.300
your boss is going to correct me all day long.

00:55:55.500 --> 00:55:58.780
That was hilarious last time. Anyway, I digress

00:55:58.780 --> 00:56:04.050
on that. You go back to God's Word. So recognize

00:56:04.050 --> 00:56:05.909
the lie. What am I believing that contradicts?

00:56:05.909 --> 00:56:07.710
That's number one. Number two, now you've got

00:56:07.710 --> 00:56:09.969
to do something with that. What do you do? You

00:56:09.969 --> 00:56:13.170
renounce it. To renounce means to formally disagree,

00:56:13.610 --> 00:56:16.570
to formally disengage. It means to push back.

00:56:16.650 --> 00:56:19.840
It means to reject. Casting it away. It is pushing

00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:22.139
it back. You're pushing it back. You're pushing

00:56:22.139 --> 00:56:24.579
it back saying, oh no, so renounce your agreement

00:56:24.579 --> 00:56:27.340
with it in a simple way to do that in words This

00:56:27.340 --> 00:56:29.699
is this will help anybody. This is how I do it

00:56:29.699 --> 00:56:33.440
in Jesus name. I reject and renounce that lie

00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:36.079
And sometimes I'll just say what the lie is I

00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:39.019
read I renounce and reject that lie that says

00:56:39.019 --> 00:56:41.699
I am not blank blank I just want to give you

00:56:41.699 --> 00:56:46.199
some data just to back up the the the recognize

00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:52.980
Queen's University in Canada, we have about six

00:56:52.980 --> 00:56:57.000
thoughts a minute, about 8 ,640 a day. Up to

00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:03.039
80 % of daily thoughts are negative. 95 % are

00:57:03.039 --> 00:57:07.219
repetitive. It's the brain's negativity bias.

00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:10.980
So we have about a little under 7 ,000 negative

00:57:10.980 --> 00:57:15.579
thoughts during the day versus 1 ,700. That is

00:57:15.579 --> 00:57:18.929
very telling. Boy, I mean to have scientific

00:57:18.929 --> 00:57:21.750
study behind that. But what it also reminds me

00:57:21.750 --> 00:57:24.949
of is why we need to know the Bible. That's why

00:57:24.949 --> 00:57:27.590
we've got to get familiar with the Scriptures,

00:57:28.190 --> 00:57:30.530
because that way we've got something to combat

00:57:30.530 --> 00:57:33.309
that with. The Bible tells me this. It says,

00:57:33.349 --> 00:57:37.789
I have the mind of Christ. So if if my natural

00:57:37.789 --> 00:57:40.170
mind is getting bombarded with all this and getting

00:57:40.170 --> 00:57:42.690
assaulted with all this negativity By the way

00:57:42.690 --> 00:57:45.210
happens all I mean think about seven hours a

00:57:45.210 --> 00:57:47.449
day being on social media you're getting assaulted

00:57:47.449 --> 00:57:51.289
all the time constantly and Yet if I know the

00:57:51.289 --> 00:57:53.170
truth and the truth tells me I'm the righteousness

00:57:53.170 --> 00:57:56.070
of God in Christ Jesus I have the mind of Christ

00:57:56.070 --> 00:57:58.889
I don't have a spirit of fear but of power love

00:57:58.889 --> 00:58:01.449
and of a sound mind the ability to think well

00:58:01.449 --> 00:58:03.949
Then I'm gonna engage that how do you do that

00:58:03.949 --> 00:58:07.719
by faith? I just say it, Lord, by faith, I engage

00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:09.699
the mind of Christ. Thank you for giving me the

00:58:09.699 --> 00:58:11.920
mind. Thank you, Lord, for giving me a sound

00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:14.820
mind and the ability to think well. And so Lord,

00:58:14.820 --> 00:58:17.719
with that, in Jesus' name, I reject and renounce

00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:21.000
that. That is a lie. That is not the truth. And

00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:23.599
I don't have to keep it. Another principle of

00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:25.900
that is found in 2 Corinthians, where it talks

00:58:25.900 --> 00:58:29.630
about, in chapter 10, it talks about taking every

00:58:29.630 --> 00:58:31.769
thought captive and submitting it to Christ,

00:58:31.849 --> 00:58:34.269
making it obedient to Christ. So, there's scripture

00:58:34.269 --> 00:58:36.210
that backs every one of these. So, recognize

00:58:36.210 --> 00:58:38.750
the lie, renounce your agreement with it. What

00:58:38.750 --> 00:58:41.230
is an agreement? That's when a lie comes to you

00:58:41.230 --> 00:58:46.860
and you say, yeah, that's true. Or you do something

00:58:46.860 --> 00:58:49.539
and you go, I'm so stupid. I remember there was

00:58:49.539 --> 00:58:52.019
a line, Kersi Alley used to say it on Cheers

00:58:52.019 --> 00:58:54.239
all time. She said, I'm just too stupid to live.

00:58:54.239 --> 00:58:56.400
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And she said all the

00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:58.940
time. I remember thinking, Oh, that even before

00:58:58.940 --> 00:59:01.380
I was a Christian and I saw that it made me,

00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:04.539
I didn't feel good about that. I was like, that's

00:59:04.539 --> 00:59:07.119
a horrible thing to say about yourself. And she

00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:08.920
said over and over and over and over and her

00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:10.760
life did not go well. I'm not saying that's the

00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:13.239
only reason. So when you're looking at Instagram,

00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:15.679
you're seeing beautiful influencers with filters,

00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:18.820
et cetera. I mean, it's very normal to think,

00:59:18.820 --> 00:59:21.929
Oh, especially for young women. I'm never going

00:59:21.929 --> 00:59:23.610
to look like that. I don't look like that. I'm

00:59:23.610 --> 00:59:27.210
no good like that. I mean, think about how destructive

00:59:27.210 --> 00:59:31.349
that is from literally this for our sequence.

00:59:31.530 --> 00:59:34.389
It's brutal. And so you renounce your agreement

00:59:34.389 --> 00:59:36.230
with it. Because when we make an agreement, it's

00:59:36.230 --> 00:59:38.409
like we're shaking hands with the devil. We're

00:59:38.409 --> 00:59:40.889
shaking hands with something that's bringing

00:59:40.889 --> 00:59:43.429
something horrible to us. And we're going, yeah,

00:59:43.449 --> 00:59:46.309
I agree with that. I mean, it sounds absurd,

00:59:46.329 --> 00:59:49.309
but we do it automatic pilot. Sure. We don't

00:59:49.309 --> 00:59:52.239
picture ourselves. Just picture yourself shaking

00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:54.019
hands with the devil. That might help. Ouch.

00:59:54.119 --> 00:59:55.840
Disparage that a little bit. His hand's a little

00:59:55.840 --> 00:59:58.920
hot. It's pointy. It's pointy fingernails. So

00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:00.539
renounce your agreement with it. Then number

01:00:00.539 --> 01:00:03.099
three, then third R is replace. What do you replace

01:00:03.099 --> 01:00:06.719
it with? Truth. Scripture. Right. Jesus said,

01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:09.159
I'm the way, the truth. So you replace it with

01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:12.539
the truth. And this is where you've got to know,

01:00:13.019 --> 01:00:15.519
and it doesn't mean you got to memorize the Bible.

01:00:15.659 --> 01:00:17.780
You just got to know where to go. That's your

01:00:17.780 --> 01:00:20.719
reference point. So it's like I don't need to

01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:22.019
know how a computer works. I just need to know

01:00:22.019 --> 01:00:24.679
how to access things to make it work for me,

01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:26.900
right? Scripture. I don't have to memorize the

01:00:26.900 --> 01:00:29.239
whole Bible, but I need to get familiar with

01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:31.699
it and put some markers, put some Post -It notes

01:00:31.699 --> 01:00:34.840
somewhere so that when these things come to me,

01:00:34.980 --> 01:00:36.860
I can replace it with the truth. Can you give

01:00:36.860 --> 01:00:39.340
them some examples? Yeah, Colossians 1 .22. I

01:00:39.340 --> 01:00:41.960
mean, if I make an agreement that I'm worthless

01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:44.940
and I'm no good, that I'm condemned, I can say,

01:00:45.179 --> 01:00:48.519
no, the Bible says that I've been made the righteous

01:00:48.519 --> 01:00:51.480
of God in Christ Jesus, Colossal 1 .22, I am

01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:54.659
holy, blameless, and above reproach. That's what

01:00:54.659 --> 01:00:57.280
the scripture says. It literally says it. You're

01:00:57.280 --> 01:00:59.760
holy, blameless, and above reproach in His sight.

01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:01.760
But you know, you can't take the Bible literally.

01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:05.519
Even my priest friend said that. Sorry. A little

01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:07.739
call back to the West Wing. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:01:07.900 --> 01:01:09.739
That's what I was like to hear Alan Ola saying

01:01:09.739 --> 01:01:13.969
that. So you take the scripture and you repeat

01:01:13.969 --> 01:01:16.690
it to yourself, say it, replace the lie with

01:01:16.690 --> 01:01:19.369
truth. So, you know, when you disagree, when

01:01:19.369 --> 01:01:21.730
you renounce something, you know how to fill

01:01:21.730 --> 01:01:24.730
up and replace the space that took up in your

01:01:24.730 --> 01:01:26.769
brain. Wouldn't it be great if you're reading

01:01:26.769 --> 01:01:29.309
something, you're seeing a picture on social

01:01:29.309 --> 01:01:30.849
media and you think, oh man, I'm never going

01:01:30.849 --> 01:01:33.070
to look like that, that your computer recognized

01:01:33.070 --> 01:01:35.110
that and just popped up and said, what are you

01:01:35.110 --> 01:01:37.730
talking about? That's not true. Here's the truth.

01:01:38.230 --> 01:01:40.309
Here's the truth. Wouldn't that be great? Oh,

01:01:40.349 --> 01:01:42.090
that'd be awesome. But you know what? You can

01:01:42.090 --> 01:01:45.250
train your mind to do this. Boy, the thing about

01:01:45.250 --> 01:01:47.690
neuroplasticity, right? I mean, we can train.

01:01:47.750 --> 01:01:51.230
God wired our brain to be trained, and we can

01:01:51.230 --> 01:01:53.389
train it in positive ways, just like it's already

01:01:53.389 --> 01:01:56.190
trained in negative ways. So we replace it with

01:01:56.190 --> 01:01:59.190
scripture. We say, oh, this is the truth. And

01:01:59.190 --> 01:02:01.949
I'll even say things like, okay, devil, let me

01:02:01.949 --> 01:02:04.409
tell you. First of all, you're reminding me of

01:02:04.409 --> 01:02:06.989
my past and what a mess up I was. Let me remind

01:02:06.989 --> 01:02:09.250
you of your future. You're bound for a lake of

01:02:09.250 --> 01:02:12.750
fire. You're going to be bound, gone, and you

01:02:12.750 --> 01:02:14.230
think you're going to rule in rain down there?

01:02:14.349 --> 01:02:16.289
No, you'll be a slave just like everybody else.

01:02:16.789 --> 01:02:20.889
So I'll get sassy sometimes, but that helps me

01:02:20.889 --> 01:02:23.190
be stronger with what I'm saying. And then I'll

01:02:23.190 --> 01:02:26.210
just remind him of my future. Right. I've been

01:02:26.210 --> 01:02:28.670
raised up seated in heavenly places in Christ

01:02:28.670 --> 01:02:32.010
Jesus. My gosh. Far above all principality, power,

01:02:32.150 --> 01:02:34.489
might, dominion. That's Ephesians 2. Yeah, all

01:02:34.489 --> 01:02:37.349
because I've memorized this stuff. I have the

01:02:37.349 --> 01:02:40.309
ability to use it. You've got a toolkit. A toolkit,

01:02:40.530 --> 01:02:42.610
exactly. But if it's not memorized, you can write

01:02:42.610 --> 01:02:44.730
it down. You can print it off. You can have it

01:02:44.730 --> 01:02:46.269
in front of you. You can have it on your phone

01:02:46.269 --> 01:02:48.929
on a note. You know, what do I do? What does

01:02:48.929 --> 01:02:51.719
the Bible say about me? Number four, resist.

01:02:51.860 --> 01:02:54.019
So, recognize the lie, renounce your agreement,

01:02:54.219 --> 01:02:57.199
replace it with Scripture. Number four, resist.

01:02:57.239 --> 01:02:59.079
Now, what does that mean? And why is that even

01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:01.480
in there? What's based out of Ephesians chapter

01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:05.480
six, James, where it says, resist the devil,

01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:08.420
submit to God, resist the devil, and he will

01:03:08.420 --> 01:03:10.820
flee. So, I don't have that right in front of

01:03:10.820 --> 01:03:13.800
me, but it is in the book of James. And so, taking

01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:17.739
that, we resist when the lie returns because

01:03:17.739 --> 01:03:21.610
the enemy doesn't give up that easy. He'll after

01:03:21.610 --> 01:03:24.030
a period I had a guy come up to me in church

01:03:24.030 --> 01:03:27.250
Between during the meetup and he came came to

01:03:27.250 --> 01:03:28.610
me goes passion me. I had to tell you something

01:03:28.610 --> 01:03:30.670
happened It's interesting you're preaching on

01:03:30.670 --> 01:03:34.510
this because this last week There was a thing

01:03:34.510 --> 01:03:36.849
in my life that happened years ago and it was

01:03:36.849 --> 01:03:39.969
a it was a repetitive thing And I got past it.

01:03:39.969 --> 01:03:42.929
It's gone. I mean I dealt with this years ago

01:03:42.929 --> 01:03:46.869
Just this week it revisited me and I had to fight

01:03:46.869 --> 01:03:49.829
it as hard as when I fought it the first time.

01:03:50.250 --> 01:03:52.050
He said, what is that? And I said, that's you

01:03:52.050 --> 01:03:54.590
having to resist. I said, that's what scripture

01:03:54.590 --> 01:03:58.489
tells us to do. We resist. I said, because the

01:03:58.489 --> 01:04:01.869
enemy can't handle that. Well, and he catches

01:04:01.869 --> 01:04:04.369
you off guard. He catches you comfortable, catches

01:04:04.369 --> 01:04:07.090
you with your guard down, catches you in a vulnerable

01:04:07.090 --> 01:04:09.590
moment or in an emotional moment. We usually

01:04:09.590 --> 01:04:12.750
do a lot of bad things when we're emotionally

01:04:12.750 --> 01:04:15.190
spun up. That's why you and I are always trying

01:04:15.190 --> 01:04:18.150
to spin people down, right? We make terrible

01:04:18.150 --> 01:04:21.809
decisions when we're spun up. And so the enemy

01:04:21.809 --> 01:04:24.429
always tries to come back and re -present things

01:04:24.429 --> 01:04:26.969
to you. And you have to say, no, no, no, no.

01:04:26.969 --> 01:04:30.170
No, that's dealt with. Not today, Satan. Take

01:04:30.170 --> 01:04:33.690
a hike. So resist. And Ephesians 6 .13 says this,

01:04:33.750 --> 01:04:37.429
having done all, stand firm. And then it says,

01:04:37.530 --> 01:04:40.210
having done all to stand. It says, stand therefore.

01:04:40.510 --> 01:04:42.550
And Nathan talks about putting on the full armor

01:04:42.550 --> 01:04:45.630
of God. Yeah, that's that passage. So there it

01:04:45.630 --> 01:04:47.550
is, recognize the lie, renounce your agreement

01:04:47.550 --> 01:04:50.369
with it, replace it with Scripture, resist when

01:04:50.369 --> 01:04:55.460
the lie returns. That is so good. Boom shakalaka.

01:04:56.820 --> 01:05:00.159
Not just I, but Tina, and I saw other people

01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:03.019
walking out lighter on Sunday than when they

01:05:03.019 --> 01:05:06.519
came in. I got people emailing me from around

01:05:06.519 --> 01:05:10.550
the world. This was amazing. I didn't really

01:05:10.550 --> 01:05:13.190
understand. I didn't have the formula. I didn't

01:05:13.190 --> 01:05:14.530
have the formula. And now I have it. Sometimes

01:05:14.530 --> 01:05:16.650
we just need a little help, right? Just something.

01:05:17.150 --> 01:05:19.329
I'm that way. I like to have something in front

01:05:19.329 --> 01:05:23.210
of me that helps me walk through something. Annette

01:05:23.210 --> 01:05:26.730
and I, we read our prayers. We read them out

01:05:26.730 --> 01:05:28.869
of a little book called, Prayers That Avail Much.

01:05:29.530 --> 01:05:32.949
And it's by Jermaine Copeland. And it's a lady,

01:05:32.969 --> 01:05:34.690
she had a prayer group, and they started writing

01:05:34.690 --> 01:05:37.869
down scriptures in prayer form. And then they

01:05:37.869 --> 01:05:40.949
began to put them under topics. Oh, yes, I know

01:05:40.949 --> 01:05:44.630
this. Of course we do. We do that every night.

01:05:44.889 --> 01:05:47.030
I read about Israel last night because today

01:05:47.030 --> 01:05:49.809
is October 7th. That's right. Three -year anniversary

01:05:49.809 --> 01:05:54.150
of horrific evil that was perpetuated against

01:05:54.150 --> 01:05:57.909
those precious people. 1 ,200 plus lost, 200

01:05:57.909 --> 01:06:02.329
plus taken away. And so we prayed for Israel

01:06:02.329 --> 01:06:04.010
last night. We prayed the peace of Jerusalem,

01:06:04.010 --> 01:06:06.469
but there was also a prayer in this book. So

01:06:06.469 --> 01:06:08.610
sometimes we use something that's already written

01:06:08.610 --> 01:06:12.699
down that that helps us walk through these things.

01:06:12.699 --> 01:06:15.119
What's the name of that book again? Prayers That

01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:19.219
Avail Much by Jermaine Copeland. That'll be in

01:06:19.219 --> 01:06:21.699
the show notes. That's an excellent resource.

01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:25.820
You can go to the contents and it lists the prayers

01:06:25.820 --> 01:06:29.599
by topics. Right. Yes. We got this a long time.

01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:32.539
It's time to bring that one back out. We do that

01:06:32.539 --> 01:06:35.940
every night. There's a prayer for going to sleep.

01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:38.260
I'll pray that prayer over us. It's all from

01:06:38.260 --> 01:06:41.030
Scripture. So you're basically praying the Bible,

01:06:41.829 --> 01:06:43.409
and you're putting it in prayer form, and they

01:06:43.409 --> 01:06:46.429
do it for you. So it's very helpful. So they're

01:06:46.429 --> 01:06:49.289
using the Scripture in the prayer itself. Yes.

01:06:49.289 --> 01:06:51.510
Oh, that's so cool. That's excellent. Yeah. Every

01:06:51.510 --> 01:06:53.550
night. I don't get much farther than, you know,

01:06:53.630 --> 01:06:56.130
like, your will be done. Okay, I snuck in some

01:06:56.130 --> 01:06:58.690
Scripture. See what I did there? Hey, but that's

01:06:58.690 --> 01:07:00.650
good. You're starting. Well, I hope these four

01:07:00.650 --> 01:07:02.650
hours will help people because it does give you

01:07:02.650 --> 01:07:06.349
a tool for fighting the mind war. that's coming

01:07:06.349 --> 01:07:09.289
against you. We have some clips here. Do any

01:07:09.289 --> 01:07:10.829
of these fit in at this point? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

01:07:10.829 --> 01:07:13.809
yeah. Go ahead and do a Pakluta on, why don't

01:07:13.809 --> 01:07:17.150
you do the one on salt, light, gospel, and Amsterdam?

01:07:17.210 --> 01:07:20.389
Yeah. I want you to speak to this. I will. That's

01:07:20.389 --> 01:07:23.989
why I captured this. I will. I'm like, this experiment

01:07:23.989 --> 01:07:26.429
has played out right in front of us all the time.

01:07:26.449 --> 01:07:30.289
Just open our eyes and use logic. God is amazing.

01:07:30.849 --> 01:07:32.650
I mean, you can, you know, Jesus said we're salt

01:07:32.650 --> 01:07:35.539
and light. Where Christian values are lived out,

01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:39.300
society has thrived. That's right. There was

01:07:39.300 --> 01:07:46.590
the chief bureau for, man, what was it? It was

01:07:46.590 --> 01:07:50.329
in Beijing. They studied the success of the West.

01:07:51.090 --> 01:07:52.789
And they said, at first we thought it was your

01:07:52.789 --> 01:07:55.789
economy, and then we thought it was your military.

01:07:56.230 --> 01:07:58.409
And we've actually found out it's your religion.

01:07:59.289 --> 01:08:03.349
And where missionaries have gone over here, opium,

01:08:03.460 --> 01:08:07.500
has declined, opium usage has decreased, and

01:08:07.500 --> 01:08:10.719
the people had more money. They were wealthier.

01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:13.079
And it's not the prosperity gospel, it just turns

01:08:13.079 --> 01:08:15.659
out, hey, you use less opium, you have more money,

01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:18.420
you know? And they were saying, hey, this is

01:08:18.420 --> 01:08:21.340
actually what has caused the success of America.

01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:26.140
It's your Christian values. You move away from

01:08:26.140 --> 01:08:29.460
those Christian values, you're going to see decline.

01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:33.380
Where, you know, in Amsterdam, there was what

01:08:33.380 --> 01:08:36.159
was called the Golden Era. It was known for these

01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:39.300
beautiful cathedrals, like beautiful church buildings

01:08:39.300 --> 01:08:43.140
where people would go to worship God. Now, Amsterdam

01:08:43.140 --> 01:08:46.439
is known for secularism and sex trade, and a

01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:48.880
lot of those cathedrals are now skate parks and

01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:52.460
museums. It's even worse than that. They are

01:08:52.460 --> 01:08:57.720
WeWork, offices, office buildings. But we just

01:08:57.720 --> 01:09:01.609
had some... Some people come over for dinner

01:09:01.609 --> 01:09:06.350
last week, and he's Dutch. He's Dieterich. He

01:09:06.350 --> 01:09:08.689
wrote the screenplay for Young Washington, his

01:09:08.689 --> 01:09:12.470
wife Kelly, and she is the CEO of Wonder Project.

01:09:12.750 --> 01:09:14.689
So we met on an airplane. We've always been wanting

01:09:14.689 --> 01:09:16.170
to get together. We had a wonderful evening.

01:09:16.310 --> 01:09:19.050
Great movie by the way. Yes, it's a good one

01:09:19.050 --> 01:09:22.810
and did very well. And, you know, so we were

01:09:22.810 --> 01:09:26.750
a lot of talk about faith and Dieter was actually

01:09:26.750 --> 01:09:30.310
a pastor's kid, but just before he was born,

01:09:30.770 --> 01:09:34.489
his dad and his mom went complete 1960s hippie

01:09:34.489 --> 01:09:39.210
nuts and completely, you know, just he went to

01:09:39.210 --> 01:09:42.069
protests and demonstrations and, you know, sleeping

01:09:42.069 --> 01:09:47.930
in the tent in the Volkswagen van. But he really

01:09:47.930 --> 01:09:50.029
came to his faith when he was back in America

01:09:50.029 --> 01:09:52.670
or when he came to America and he became a citizen,

01:09:52.689 --> 01:09:57.369
but he said, Even having faith at any point in

01:09:57.369 --> 01:10:00.210
and he's a little bit younger than I am not much

01:10:00.210 --> 01:10:03.750
In the Netherlands was a shoot, you know, it's

01:10:03.750 --> 01:10:07.869
like you're a weirdo. That's really Strange.

01:10:07.949 --> 01:10:11.569
What are you talking about? And what and that

01:10:11.569 --> 01:10:17.010
is still this way unless It's Islam Then it's

01:10:17.010 --> 01:10:19.649
groovy fantastic and awesome. That is what and

01:10:19.649 --> 01:10:23.390
it's not just Amsterdam. It is all of the Netherlands.

01:10:23.409 --> 01:10:27.170
It is a large portion of France, of Germany,

01:10:27.390 --> 01:10:31.550
of Scandinavia. I fear it may be irreversible.

01:10:32.909 --> 01:10:36.210
And so what you're seeing now, and I see this

01:10:36.210 --> 01:10:39.510
with many younger people who I know, my daughter

01:10:39.510 --> 01:10:43.470
lives there, my granddaughter lives there, is

01:10:43.470 --> 01:10:47.050
people are moving towards a spiritual thinking,

01:10:47.890 --> 01:10:52.119
but it's about, and you actually mentioned this

01:10:52.119 --> 01:10:58.970
specifically, manifesting. Intentions. Intentions.

01:10:59.770 --> 01:11:02.409
I think people have moved beyond the crystals

01:11:02.409 --> 01:11:06.270
and the singing bowls a little bit, but tarot

01:11:06.270 --> 01:11:08.949
cards are still there, astrology is still there,

01:11:10.069 --> 01:11:14.409
so that's people who are... searching, but they're

01:11:14.409 --> 01:11:17.989
afraid, Jimmy, they're afraid to even use the

01:11:17.989 --> 01:11:21.390
word God. And I know, because we did this silly

01:11:21.390 --> 01:11:26.029
reality show, which is more situated around my

01:11:26.029 --> 01:11:28.989
daughter and the baby, and Tina and I were a

01:11:28.989 --> 01:11:33.460
part of that, and I'm like, we're gonna pray

01:11:33.460 --> 01:11:36.960
at dinner, and I could see the, because there's

01:11:36.960 --> 01:11:39.600
a company producing this, they're like, Yeah,

01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:41.939
yeah, yeah. Let's zoom in. You know, they're

01:11:41.939 --> 01:11:45.340
praying. And we are holding on to Christina's

01:11:45.340 --> 01:11:49.899
belly, praying over the baby. And of course,

01:11:50.340 --> 01:11:52.579
I know how these things work. And I wanted to

01:11:52.579 --> 01:11:54.119
make sure that there was some good promotion

01:11:54.119 --> 01:11:57.800
for Jesus and for the show. And so we made sure

01:11:57.800 --> 01:12:01.439
that we cut that with Adam and all of his guns

01:12:01.439 --> 01:12:06.159
shooting whiskey bottles. And so it froze people's

01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:09.930
brains. Like, how can you be a Jesus lover and

01:12:09.930 --> 01:12:11.989
light guns. You know, I knew that would happen,

01:12:12.250 --> 01:12:14.550
but what it brought is it brought, this guy's

01:12:14.550 --> 01:12:19.670
not ashamed of his faith, nor is his wife, and

01:12:19.670 --> 01:12:24.229
his daughter seems to tolerate it okay. And that

01:12:24.229 --> 01:12:27.189
was my personal mission. I really wanted that

01:12:27.189 --> 01:12:29.810
to take place. And I've gotten a lot of feedback

01:12:29.810 --> 01:12:32.710
from that. People saying, hey, that was really

01:12:32.710 --> 01:12:35.390
great. Now I feel like I can talk about it. This

01:12:35.390 --> 01:12:38.729
decloaking is where we need to go, man. People

01:12:38.729 --> 01:12:41.909
are afraid. Be bold. Be bold. Everybody else

01:12:41.909 --> 01:12:45.670
is. Why can't we? Yes. It's so easy to go along

01:12:45.670 --> 01:12:49.470
to get along. Nobody's doing that anymore anywhere.

01:12:50.229 --> 01:12:53.369
That's old news anyway. Jesus is trending. Go

01:12:53.369 --> 01:12:55.289
look at your timeline. Come on. I'm telling you.

01:12:55.310 --> 01:12:57.670
Get strong. Get bold. Don't be ashamed of the

01:12:57.670 --> 01:13:00.850
gospel. De -cloak already. Be strong. Yes, de

01:13:00.850 --> 01:13:03.529
-cloak. Yeah, that's good. Well, I appreciate

01:13:03.529 --> 01:13:06.470
Jonathan Percluta. He's a evangelist. He does

01:13:06.470 --> 01:13:09.300
this thing called the porch. It's connected with

01:13:09.300 --> 01:13:12.500
Baylor University in Waco, Texas. They have thousands

01:13:12.500 --> 01:13:14.520
of young people, college students come to these

01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:17.039
services. He preaches and teaches there, but

01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:19.859
he's also part of the Unite US revival movement.

01:13:19.859 --> 01:13:21.899
Oh, the Go Around All the Colleges? Yeah, he's

01:13:21.899 --> 01:13:24.680
done hundreds of those. I mean, he's on all those

01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:28.279
campuses. So he's that guy. But I have another

01:13:28.279 --> 01:13:30.979
quote by him I'd like for you to play. And it's

01:13:30.979 --> 01:13:34.619
on his, this is Switching Gears, but this is

01:13:34.619 --> 01:13:37.039
so important. I'm trying to give our listeners,

01:13:37.319 --> 01:13:40.060
a picture of Christianity just from different

01:13:40.060 --> 01:13:43.000
angles. So this is a guy who preaches and teaches.

01:13:43.319 --> 01:13:46.539
He's teaching at a school, a seminary, for Christian

01:13:46.539 --> 01:13:51.539
students getting ready for ministry. He decides,

01:13:51.579 --> 01:13:53.899
I'm going to confess something that happened

01:13:53.899 --> 01:13:56.479
in the hotel last night before I preach. There

01:13:56.479 --> 01:13:59.039
is times I still have to confess before a sermon,

01:13:59.500 --> 01:14:02.380
hey, I did something last night that I would

01:14:02.380 --> 01:14:04.399
ask you not to do. And to be clear, to remove

01:14:04.399 --> 01:14:06.359
any mystery, what I mean by that is like, hey,

01:14:06.420 --> 01:14:09.979
I slowed down on a reel. On Instagram, I was

01:14:09.979 --> 01:14:12.279
looking and something caught my eye and I looked

01:14:12.279 --> 01:14:15.680
lustfully at an image and I want to confess that

01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:18.279
because I... don't want to hide it. You know,

01:14:18.420 --> 01:14:20.260
what you hide will take you out. That's what

01:14:20.260 --> 01:14:22.279
you said, obviously, 10 plus years ago. That's

01:14:22.279 --> 01:14:24.819
right. I remember. And I'll tell you another

01:14:24.819 --> 01:14:27.420
part of that story is then a seminary had asked

01:14:27.420 --> 01:14:29.180
me to come and speak on how to reach the next

01:14:29.180 --> 01:14:32.579
generation. And I told that story because the

01:14:32.579 --> 01:14:34.619
punchline is that night, it didn't have anything

01:14:34.619 --> 01:14:36.460
to do with the sermon. I prayed and then I preached

01:14:36.460 --> 01:14:38.640
a sermon that had nothing to do with that. And

01:14:38.640 --> 01:14:41.000
then that night was the longest line, and the

01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:43.260
security had to shut us down because at 11 p

01:14:43.260 --> 01:14:45.720
.m., we were still there meeting with people

01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:47.800
and nobody wanted to talk about the sermon. They

01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:49.779
were like, hey, I'm struggling too. Hey, how

01:14:49.779 --> 01:14:51.619
do I get free? How do I find free? I'm struggling.

01:14:51.699 --> 01:14:54.140
Me too, me too. And so I was like, had those

01:14:54.140 --> 01:14:56.579
conversations. And so I said that at a seminary

01:14:56.579 --> 01:14:58.079
who asked me how to reach the next generation.

01:14:58.220 --> 01:14:59.579
I said, they want somebody that's going to be

01:14:59.579 --> 01:15:03.640
real with them. And the feedback I got afterwards,

01:15:03.640 --> 01:15:05.720
because they filled out comment cards, was like,

01:15:05.720 --> 01:15:08.520
hey, how dare you? use the word pornography in

01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:10.600
a mixed gendered audience, and you have to present

01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:12.039
to be holy. I remember one said, you have to

01:15:12.039 --> 01:15:14.119
present to be holy. And I was reading these comic

01:15:14.119 --> 01:15:16.659
cards, and I just started weeping, like weeping

01:15:16.659 --> 01:15:18.880
hysterically, because I was like, they'll never

01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:22.100
reach them. Who said this? It was people who

01:15:22.100 --> 01:15:25.680
were preparing to be pastors, and they were at

01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:27.739
the seminary, and they wanted me to talk about,

01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:29.560
train them on how to reach the next generation.

01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:31.579
And they were saying, hey, you need to present

01:15:31.579 --> 01:15:33.000
to be holy. I was like, you're never going to

01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:36.100
reach the next generation. So, who were the people

01:15:36.100 --> 01:15:37.720
who were lined up that were just students? They

01:15:37.720 --> 01:15:40.399
were students, because it was a seminary, so

01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:42.779
they were students from all kinds of disciplines

01:15:42.779 --> 01:15:46.560
like psychology students. It's not just ministry.

01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:49.239
It's various things. And so they were all being

01:15:49.239 --> 01:15:50.920
touched saying, wow, this is my… They were like,

01:15:50.920 --> 01:15:53.819
I need to talk about this. So much so that at

01:15:53.819 --> 01:15:55.779
11 o 'clock they had to close the place down.

01:15:56.699 --> 01:15:59.720
all the proper students becoming pastors and

01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:01.819
ministers. How dare you do this? You've got to

01:16:01.819 --> 01:16:05.920
present holy. Wow. Yeah. Wow. That's the problem.

01:16:06.180 --> 01:16:10.500
And see, that is why the church made itself irrelevant

01:16:10.500 --> 01:16:13.699
to the world, because we quit talking about what

01:16:13.699 --> 01:16:15.840
was really going on. And now, of course, all

01:16:15.840 --> 01:16:18.699
that's getting blown up. So it's kind of like

01:16:18.699 --> 01:16:21.220
Netanyah, we have a saying, no secrets, no leverage.

01:16:21.470 --> 01:16:24.109
Yeah. Man, if there's no secrets in our lives,

01:16:24.250 --> 01:16:26.789
then the enemy has no leverage on us. I think

01:16:26.789 --> 01:16:29.590
he said it, I hope I can remember how he said

01:16:29.590 --> 01:16:34.590
it, but he said, what we hide... Will take you

01:16:34.590 --> 01:16:39.229
out. Will take you out. Yeah. Yeah. What we hide

01:16:39.229 --> 01:16:41.130
will take us out. Boy, isn't that the truth.

01:16:41.130 --> 01:16:43.989
It is so true. I mean, gosh, look at Robert Morris,

01:16:44.189 --> 01:16:47.390
30 years later, the secret he kept for 30 years

01:16:47.390 --> 01:16:50.069
blew his whole ministry and life up. He's out.

01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:52.260
He had one of the largest churches in America,

01:16:52.720 --> 01:16:57.739
but it's something he hid. The reason I brought

01:16:57.739 --> 01:17:00.600
that up is I appreciated Jonathan's honesty and

01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:03.220
transparency. We need more of that in the church

01:17:03.220 --> 01:17:05.500
where people will just say, man, I had a bad

01:17:05.500 --> 01:17:08.920
day. I had a bad night. I messed up. I made a

01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:11.880
mistake, but here's the deal. But because I outed

01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:15.210
that, there's grace. God's grace is sufficient.

01:17:15.489 --> 01:17:17.930
It's enough. It's interesting because on Sundays,

01:17:18.010 --> 01:17:19.550
everyone's like, hey, how you doing? I'm great.

01:17:19.630 --> 01:17:21.689
I'm great. How you doing? Oh, fantastic. Everyone's

01:17:21.689 --> 01:17:24.449
great. But then you go to men's ministry and

01:17:24.449 --> 01:17:26.989
it gets real. I'm like, okay, man, here's what

01:17:26.989 --> 01:17:29.109
I'm struggling with. Here's what I'm dealing

01:17:29.109 --> 01:17:31.590
with right now. Different atmosphere. And it's

01:17:31.590 --> 01:17:34.390
kind of crazy. By design, we designed the men's

01:17:34.390 --> 01:17:37.770
ministry to create safe spaces because you do

01:17:37.770 --> 01:17:40.350
need a place. You need a place to live up in

01:17:40.350 --> 01:17:43.250
a down world. high -five each other. But you

01:17:43.250 --> 01:17:45.350
also need a place to get real, and that's what

01:17:45.350 --> 01:17:48.850
that's for, by design. A couple of quick pieces

01:17:48.850 --> 01:17:51.949
of feedback. Justin says, thank you for the podcast,

01:17:52.090 --> 01:17:54.029
the commentary on culture and media, something

01:17:54.029 --> 01:17:56.949
vital that the church needs to engage in more.

01:17:58.029 --> 01:17:59.750
I'm not sure if you've heard of the new faith

01:17:59.750 --> 01:18:01.909
-based film that was released, Beyond Belief,

01:18:02.010 --> 01:18:04.390
set in the 1980s about a teen who forms a Christian

01:18:04.390 --> 01:18:06.010
garage band. Have you heard about this one? Yeah,

01:18:06.210 --> 01:18:08.079
yeah. It has to do with the band Petra. Oh, is

01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:10.720
that Petra? Well, he wanted to become a part

01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:13.279
of the band, Petra. So it's not their story.

01:18:13.819 --> 01:18:16.659
Totally. Oh, okay. Part of it. Streaming now

01:18:16.659 --> 01:18:18.699
is that I don't know but I want to see it because

01:18:18.699 --> 01:18:21.060
I didn't see a trailer for it. Yeah, excellent

01:18:21.060 --> 01:18:24.460
That's what I want to see Marion Marion passage

01:18:24.460 --> 01:18:26.159
of me now and thank you for yet another fantastic

01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:28.460
episode I'm excited to dive into wild at heart

01:18:28.460 --> 01:18:30.859
as it sounds incredibly enlightening. Yes, so

01:18:30.859 --> 01:18:34.779
I wrote her back and said it's a dude book I

01:18:34.779 --> 01:18:37.460
said, but there's a female version called captivated

01:18:37.460 --> 01:18:42.409
that Stacey Stacey Eldred Rote, his wife. Oh,

01:18:42.409 --> 01:18:44.909
okay. And Annette's read that, loved it. So,

01:18:45.090 --> 01:18:48.130
it's the counter. It's the other side. Connie

01:18:48.130 --> 01:18:51.390
from the Netherlands. Adam and Pastor Jimmy,

01:18:51.489 --> 01:18:54.289
thank you for your show. And I love it. I love

01:18:54.289 --> 01:18:56.350
that the Bible verses are mentioned. We also

01:18:56.350 --> 01:18:59.869
put them in the show notes at WGTDT .com. I am

01:18:59.869 --> 01:19:02.149
Dutch, so I don't always recognize them, but

01:19:02.149 --> 01:19:04.529
I can look them up in my Bible. God bless you,

01:19:04.810 --> 01:19:06.689
Connie. Beautiful. Beautiful, Connie. And that's

01:19:06.689 --> 01:19:08.310
why we're putting them on there. Yes. That's

01:19:08.310 --> 01:19:11.960
why we do it. And I guess, yeah, now we need

01:19:11.960 --> 01:19:14.840
to thank some people who have supported us, value

01:19:14.840 --> 01:19:17.880
for value, as that is the engine that drives

01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:22.159
us, besides Jesus, obviously, wgtdtdonations

01:19:22.159 --> 01:19:26.920
.com. While it's still relatively few, that means

01:19:26.920 --> 01:19:29.619
that we can thank everybody personally, and it's

01:19:29.619 --> 01:19:31.560
a joy to do that. I'll kick it off with Marco

01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:35.619
Mack, who comes in with $88 .88. We really appreciate

01:19:35.619 --> 01:19:39.369
that. That's great encouragement. says, thank

01:19:39.369 --> 01:19:41.250
you, Adam and Pastor Jimmy, for being there.

01:19:41.350 --> 01:19:43.789
I look forward to connecting with you in Fredericksburg

01:19:43.789 --> 01:19:46.289
on October 17th at the meetup. Unfortunately,

01:19:46.489 --> 01:19:49.329
you and Damon will not be there because you're

01:19:49.329 --> 01:19:51.130
going to a funeral. We'll be at a funeral in

01:19:51.130 --> 01:19:53.350
Nashville. But I will be there, and I'm pretty

01:19:53.350 --> 01:19:57.489
sure Tina the Keeper will join me. And he will

01:19:57.489 --> 01:20:00.229
be extending his stay so we can join our 9 a

01:20:00.229 --> 01:20:04.609
.m. Sunday service. Cool. Jill Price. Also, 8888.

01:20:04.729 --> 01:20:06.890
Jimmy, you want to take that one? Yeah, yeah.

01:20:07.029 --> 01:20:10.149
McKinney Texas, yay. And hope she's holding it

01:20:10.149 --> 01:20:13.090
down for Christianity there. McKinney's on the

01:20:13.090 --> 01:20:15.310
map right now for some not good reasons with

01:20:15.310 --> 01:20:17.850
Islam stuff. But in the morning, Adam and Pastor

01:20:17.850 --> 01:20:20.829
Jimmy, I'm sending a separate note. In the morning,

01:20:20.930 --> 01:20:23.229
oh, she says it again. I started listening to

01:20:23.229 --> 01:20:25.390
you after JCD's passing and have tried to go

01:20:25.390 --> 01:20:27.689
all the way back to the beginning. It has been

01:20:27.689 --> 01:20:29.989
good for me to hear your insight on what is going

01:20:29.989 --> 01:20:32.760
on politically. and how to look at it and pray

01:20:32.760 --> 01:20:35.000
about it from a Christian perspective. I have

01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:37.779
a massive request. A friend of mine's son, Jack

01:20:37.779 --> 01:20:40.539
Maloof, needs major prayers. He's a 20 -year

01:20:40.539 --> 01:20:42.899
-old young man from Austin attending Austin Christian.

01:20:43.600 --> 01:20:49.399
He drove into a lake. He dove into a lake in

01:20:49.399 --> 01:20:51.819
Austin last week. The water was shallow. Oh my

01:20:51.819 --> 01:20:55.399
gosh. This is bad. He has a spinal cord injury

01:20:55.399 --> 01:20:58.979
that as of right now has paralyzed all four limbs.

01:20:59.569 --> 01:21:02.050
their current prayer is for him to be able to

01:21:02.050 --> 01:21:04.010
breathe on his own. Wow. I'm going to for you

01:21:04.010 --> 01:21:07.289
the GoFundMe page. But what she's asking for

01:21:07.289 --> 01:21:10.949
is prayer that even our get -to nation would

01:21:10.949 --> 01:21:12.949
just take this on as a prayer. So let me get

01:21:12.949 --> 01:21:15.970
his name again. It's Jack is his name, Maloof,

01:21:16.029 --> 01:21:19.029
God knows who he is. And this is from Jill Price.

01:21:19.510 --> 01:21:23.090
So man, just all the army out there, all the

01:21:23.090 --> 01:21:26.630
nation, let's keep him in prayer. and hold them

01:21:26.630 --> 01:21:28.630
up and just pray for a breakthrough. So let me

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pray right now. Father, I lift up Jack Maloof.

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Just such a heartbreaking story here and event

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that has happened. We pray for a breakthrough

01:21:38.369 --> 01:21:40.609
in his life that you would touch him physically

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and his family, Lord, and his friends, just the

01:21:43.489 --> 01:21:45.329
ripple effect of people that have been impacted

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by this accident. We pray for a breakthrough.

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Holy Spirit, we ask you to do what only you can

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do in this situation. she would bring healing

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where it doesn't seem possible. You'll make a

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way where there seems to be no way on Jack's

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behalf. Again, we lift up Jill, their family,

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his family, and we just put our faith together

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and ask you, Lord, to do something that's miraculous

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in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Wow. Dame Teresa

01:22:11.710 --> 01:22:14.810
Martin. Now, this came in as a check. through

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the PL box, which you can find at WGTDTdonations

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.com. 7777, we love this. Dear Adam, Pastor Jimmy,

01:22:22.869 --> 01:22:26.550
I'm loving WGTDT! It's wonderful to get the media

01:22:26.550 --> 01:22:28.689
deconstruction from a fully Christian worldview

01:22:28.689 --> 01:22:31.930
here. God honored throughout, and I come away

01:22:31.930 --> 01:22:34.869
so encouraged. I still enjoy No Agenda, but this

01:22:34.869 --> 01:22:38.590
podcast resonates more fully with my soul. Sincerely,

01:22:38.670 --> 01:22:41.250
Dame Teresa Martin from Camarillo, California.

01:22:41.590 --> 01:22:44.010
Just have a PS. Adam, thank you for calming me

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down about AI. I downloaded the Muse robot thing.

01:22:47.029 --> 01:22:49.270
Yeah, there you go. Call it the robot. And I've

01:22:49.270 --> 01:22:51.489
found it a very, very useful tool for my tasks

01:22:51.489 --> 01:22:54.430
and chores. It frees up my time by working quietly

01:22:54.430 --> 01:22:56.810
in the background on the mind -numbing busy work

01:22:56.810 --> 01:22:59.409
in a day. Excellent. It's what it's for. Love

01:22:59.409 --> 01:23:02.109
hearing that. Man, that's great. Dame Teresa.

01:23:02.630 --> 01:23:07.550
All right, we got $51 .99 from Ryan Albatron,

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Albaton, Albritton, Albritton, Albritton, Albritton,

01:23:12.130 --> 01:23:16.210
and no note. Marian Roman O 'Brien with $50,

01:23:16.369 --> 01:23:20.409
and oh, there's Ryan again with $50. Oh, another

01:23:20.409 --> 01:23:22.149
$50. Hey, we'll take it. And now we know where

01:23:22.149 --> 01:23:24.289
he's from, Greenville, Greenville, North Carolina.

01:23:24.289 --> 01:23:29.029
There you go. Justin Zetzer with $50, thank you.

01:23:29.649 --> 01:23:33.810
From Batavia. That's interesting. I don't have

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these on my spreadsheet. I've got them on the

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PDF. Shelley Carpenter from Mooresville, North

01:23:39.930 --> 01:23:42.590
Carolina. We know Shelley. $30. Thank you, Shelley.

01:23:42.750 --> 01:23:45.590
I feel it's only fitting to give y 'all instead

01:23:45.590 --> 01:23:49.159
of Zuckerberg for the news tip. I appreciate

01:23:49.159 --> 01:23:52.000
that, Shelley. That's cool. Love that. Can you

01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:53.399
do the rest, brother? Because I don't have the

01:23:53.399 --> 01:23:55.939
location. Yeah. So, Andrew Bader from Brookheaven,

01:23:56.100 --> 01:23:59.920
Pennsylvania, 1111. Cool. Fear is not sufficient

01:23:59.920 --> 01:24:02.760
for salvation. Only faith is. Thank you for trying

01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:05.640
to encourage believers to not take the bait.

01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:10.979
A fearful Christian either isn't or is immature.

01:24:11.380 --> 01:24:14.579
Sorry. A fearful Christian either isn't or is

01:24:14.579 --> 01:24:17.510
immature. God has already won. Indeed, brother.

01:24:18.649 --> 01:24:22.789
John's Creek Studios LLC, no location there,

01:24:22.829 --> 01:24:28.130
$5 .65. Nicholas Start, no location, $5 .00.

01:24:28.130 --> 01:24:32.310
Dwayne Spellman Jr., $1 .53, faithful as always.

01:24:33.090 --> 01:24:35.909
And Michael Mason, $1 .21. He says, this week

01:24:35.909 --> 01:24:40.029
I would like to donate $1 .21 for Jude 121, NIV.

01:24:40.310 --> 01:24:42.590
Keep yourselves in God's love as you wait for

01:24:42.590 --> 01:24:44.949
the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you

01:24:44.949 --> 01:24:47.729
eternal life. Have a blessed week." So, I want

01:24:47.729 --> 01:24:49.909
to get him in the Psalms because there's 150

01:24:49.909 --> 01:24:53.909
of those. That would bump up his donation considerably.

01:24:55.149 --> 01:24:57.810
Hey, Michael, get into the Psalms, brother. Hey,

01:24:58.050 --> 01:25:00.750
so appreciate that. I love the correlation with

01:25:00.750 --> 01:25:02.670
Scripture there. That's cool, Michael. Just messing

01:25:02.670 --> 01:25:05.920
with you. That's it. Thank you all so much for

01:25:05.920 --> 01:25:08.060
supporting us. Value for value, time, talent,

01:25:08.319 --> 01:25:10.479
treasure. The best thing you can do is tell somebody

01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:14.000
about the podcast. Get them subscribed to it.

01:25:14.020 --> 01:25:18.300
Go to WGTDT .com. That's where you can subscribe

01:25:18.300 --> 01:25:20.319
to our sub stack. You don't have to pay for it

01:25:20.319 --> 01:25:22.859
only if you want to. And we have a donation page,

01:25:23.220 --> 01:25:26.720
WGTDTdonations .com. Pastor Jimmy, please take

01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:28.899
us out with a daily grind. All right. Well, this

01:25:28.899 --> 01:25:31.600
is the daily grind and today's scripture is Matthew

01:25:31.600 --> 01:25:36.020
chapter 9 verse verses 37 and 38. Then he said

01:25:36.020 --> 01:25:38.539
to his disciples, the harvest is truly plentiful,

01:25:38.619 --> 01:25:41.640
but the laborers are few. Therefore pray the

01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:44.460
Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into

01:25:44.460 --> 01:25:46.939
his harvest. The title of today's Daily Grind

01:25:46.939 --> 01:25:50.819
is The Gospel Cannot Stay Silent. As it was in

01:25:50.819 --> 01:25:54.300
Jesus' day, so it is today. The harvest is plentiful.

01:25:54.460 --> 01:25:57.020
However, we must have laborers who are willing

01:25:57.020 --> 01:25:59.970
to freely and readily share their faith. It's

01:25:59.970 --> 01:26:02.970
not the harvest that's the issue, it's the harvesters.

01:26:03.510 --> 01:26:05.970
I sense the Lord is imparting the spirit and

01:26:05.970 --> 01:26:08.590
gift of evangelism to those who are willing to

01:26:08.590 --> 01:26:12.289
step forward and say, here I am, send me. If

01:26:12.289 --> 01:26:15.050
the gospel really is good news to you, then step

01:26:15.050 --> 01:26:17.949
out into the fields and let's bring in the harvest.

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So for today, look for opportunities to share

01:26:21.350 --> 01:26:24.310
your good news story today. It doesn't have to

01:26:24.310 --> 01:26:27.250
be an hour long presentation, simply remind someone

01:26:27.510 --> 01:26:30.250
that Jesus loves them and has an amazing plan

01:26:30.250 --> 01:26:33.250
for their life. And here's today's prayer. Father,

01:26:33.289 --> 01:26:36.229
here I am. Send me into your harvest fields.

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I trust you will give me what to say as I step

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out in faith to share the good news of Jesus.

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In Jesus' name, I pray. Amen.