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Father, our heart is to honor You and to glorify

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You in everything we do. Even as we have these

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conversations on a mic with record going out

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all over the world, Father, our heart is to be

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two friends, two brothers in Christ, having conversations

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about the things that matter in life. Holy Spirit,

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we invite You to guide our conversation. Father,

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I also ask for our listeners that they would

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find themselves today challenged, but also encouraged

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and inspired and motivated. Father, I pray for

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those that have written in and have said that

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they're coming back to their faith, they're reexamining

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Christianity, reexamining Jesus, and I pray for

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them that, Father, they would take that step

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of faith and come on in. As we like to say, jump

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in, the water's fine. So we invite them to do

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that. And Lord, we put all of this before you.

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we thank you that we get to do this in Jesus'

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name. Amen. Amen. It's Wednesday, September 23rd,

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2026. We get to do this. It's episode number

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51. we get to do this and hello all the doers

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and get to nation hello believers in christ curious

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you are welcome to our little chat that we do

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once a week i love it man we're getting our own

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vocabulary our own language you know i have people

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from as far away as japan sending me emails like

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you know i am kind of christ curious oh well

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you're welcome here that's the beauty of it absolutely

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all are welcome i mean that's the whole point

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of having a podcast is we're basically inviting

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you into a conversation about things that matter.

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We think things that can really impact the world,

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really change things. Well, for sure, people

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love just, you know, our take on what's going

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on and they always feel encouraged and happier

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when they, oh, okay, that was a good show. I

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feel good. Yeah, that's kind of the point. We

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like that. If you want to have a code for what

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we're doing, it's step away from the ledge. Exactly.

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Don't jump. Don't jump. Igbok, it's going to

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be okay. Now, this really is a catch -up meeting

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because you and Damonette went to Nashville,

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you went to the Culture and Christianity, is

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that what it's called? Culture and Christianity

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Conference? Is it like CCC? Tell us about it.

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Tell us what you learned. Tell us what you came

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back with. What exactly is it? Tina and I were

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scheduled to go and I called you before I said,

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bro, after almost two weeks in Europe and everything

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that's going on, I just needed to re -energize.

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And I felt bad. I was like, oh man, I really

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wanted to be, the four of us travel well, we

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have a good time together. So I felt bad about

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it, but it's just like, no, I need to reset.

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And I said, no problem. No worries. Exactly.

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There's always going to be another opportunity.

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I mean, we take trips together all the time.

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So there's always another conference, another

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event. So this event is something, this is our

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third year to do this event. Pastor Alan Jackson,

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not to be confused with the country Western singer,

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Alan Jackson. That's out A -L -N. No, it's A

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-L -L -A -N. That's the singer, E -N. Pastor

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Alan Jatt, he pastors one of the largest churches

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in Nashville, not in Nashville, in Tennessee,

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over 15 ,000 attendants on a given weekend. Huge,

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amazing, beautiful church. Can you imagine what

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his text messages are like during the week? Can

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you just imagine? He probably doesn't receive

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those more than likely. I'm sure he is a guardian.

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I mean, you would have to. I can't even imagine,

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really. Great guy. He's a real statesman in terms

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of... talking about the intersection of what

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we're doing, culture and Christianity. And he

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became a sane voice about four years ago when

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I really started to dive into the waters of what

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does it look like to engage culture and step

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back into the public square with a voice of,

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you know, Christ -centered voice, a faith voice,

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faith -based biblical worldview. And he was probably

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the most calm, sane, articulate. He speaks like

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a statesman. He's got that on him. He's 67 years

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old, 67, 68. And so he's seasoned. And I just

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love his heart, man. He's all about... Getting

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the church outside the four walls and getting

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our voice back into culture back into the world

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where it belongs Which is pretty much what we're

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doing with the podcast exactly what we're doing

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with it So yeah, so you sent me I wrote these

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down you sent me six points Which I'm sure came

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from your your gadget. What does that thing called

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the odd plod? Yeah, you love this thing. Don't

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you love it? Do you have it running right now

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just somewhere? No, I don't I've got it here

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Oh, it's attached to your phone like a little

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spy device magnet. Oh cool So it just records

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anything and then makes a transcript and does

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summaries. Yeah, so you'll have the actual recording

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of whatever year. It's got four microphones built

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into it, so it's actually decent. And then it'll

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make a full transcript. Then it gives you summaries.

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It'll break it down into summaries, action points,

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questions. I mean, it's really sharp. Do you

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disclose when you're sitting down with somebody

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and you have it running? I do, yes. I just ran

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with Pastor Brian. I said, hey, do you mind if

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I applaud this? He has no problem. On Zoom calls,

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I see this all the time. Oh man, someone's got

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a robot transcribing this. I'm like, okay, I

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can't figure out what I'm saying. In Texas, actually,

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legally, you don't have to. This is one of those

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states, but ethically, I think you should. So

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yeah, I think it's the right thing to do. Just

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so you know, brother, I'm recording this. Oh,

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just thank you. That's going to change where

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I was going. Here's your points that you sent

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me. The modern church has become dangerously

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passive and soft, often prioritizing public approval

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and tradition over biblical truth. Talk to me.

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Who was talking about this? Were these the main

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topics at the conference? I don't remember. I

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sent that to you days ago. When you're at a conference,

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you're listening to 25, 30 speakers and they

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get like 10, 15 minutes apiece. So it's like

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boom, boom, boom, boom. So try to keep track.

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That's why I need this. So I sent you just a

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section of one speech that someone gave us. Don't

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remember who it was. Had to look back at it.

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Yeah, I mean, the church has, we stepped away

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from the public square because we didn't want

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to be, we didn't want to get involved in politics.

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Right. Well, we were psy -opped into thinking

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you couldn't do that because of the Johnson amendment,

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which turns out to be not only nothing, but also

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president Trump made very sure through the IRS

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that nothing would ever come of that. Yeah, no

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teeth. But yeah, this is, I think this really

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is the biggest problem we have is that, because

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of course we come from America was born out of

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God -fearing men. Or were they just deists? I

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can't remember. I only look at my founders' Bible.

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If you read their journals and even go over their

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Bibles, their Geneva Bibles that they were using,

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you will see that they were very much followers

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of Jesus. Most of them, there were some deists,

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but most were actually card -carrying members

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of the body of Christ. Many of them were deacons.

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A lot of the founding fathers were pastors, and

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a lot of the original governors in the colonies

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were all pastors. They were the leaders of the

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cult. But at some point, and that lasted, by

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the way, for 160, 170 years, preachers stepping

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into pulpits and talking about the things of

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life. What was going on? Particularly the invasion

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from Britain, continuing to stake a claim on

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them, and by tyranny and by force, subjugate

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them. And the whole point they came over here

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was to get away from that. So it was the pastors

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speaking to that. As we'll find, that British

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invasion, I don't think, personally, I don't

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think has actually ever stopped. I mean, they

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may have gotten rid of the armada and the fleets,

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but they turned that into a financial control

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grid, which We've talked about before. We have.

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Christians are at a critical juncture and must

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actively engage with America viewed as the last

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bastion of speech and worship. Wow, that's a

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big one. That is a big one because we heard from

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a pastor from Australia who says, I've been sent

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here by God to warn you because we laid down,

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we did not fight, we did not stand up and now

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we are under He said, the things I will say to

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you today will be considered hate speech. And

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now they have a new category, hate preach. Oh,

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no. Show title. He said, I was told that within

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my church, I could say anything I want, but I

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could not post it online. We could not broadcast

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our services any longer in Australia. They've

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clamped down on everything because it all comes

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back to your speaking hate. If you come against

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Islam, if you come against LGBTQ, RSTP, or whatever,

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you are speaking hate. As of 2014, the landscape

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began to change in America where we lost our

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foothold. That was kind of the last where Obama

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came in. That's why 2014 is politically related

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to political landscape. Things shifted. culture

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took a different direction. We went from being

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celebrated to tolerated to despised, and that's

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where we are now in the world. You get eye rolls

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and mockery nowadays in culture, but interesting

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enough, the harder it gets and the more resistance

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that comes against Christianity, especially in

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America, the more the church thrives. It's really

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an interesting thing going on. I agree. And actually,

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this flows into point three that you sent me.

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Secular progressive groups work to neutralize

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Christian influence through deceptive ministries

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and propaganda aimed at pastors. I would say

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that along those lines, people have just become

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afraid to profess their faith. But what I've

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noticed in my own life is when you just lay it

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out there, the decloaking is amazing. The amount

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of people who just go, hey man, your brother

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in Christ, praying for you publicly. Like, okay,

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if X is public, but saying that, certainly on

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email all the time. And why are we as believers

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so afraid? What has culture done to us? What

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is the downside? These are big questions, I know.

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Well, I mean, I was just talking to Pastor Brian

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about this. Satan is a master at leveraging biblical

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illiteracy against us. When we move away from

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this book, and I happen to be holding a Bible

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in my hand, an actual Bible, not my phone. When

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we move away from this book, then we lose our

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ability to distinguish between truth and falsehood.

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And so the enemy now will begin to run false

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things into the churches, through the churches.

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I don't know if you saw the video of Tallarico's

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imposter pastor. So just summarizing, what I

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saw him say was, and I know this piece of Scripture

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quite well, he was saying, well, Jesus might

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have risen from the dead, but maybe not. Maybe

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someone took his body, and that's literally in

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Scripture. They will say that his body was stolen,

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but don't believe it. That's literally in the

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Bible, and this guy is saying maybe, maybe not.

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There was an edit in there, by the way. I noticed

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that there was an edit because then he goes straight

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into, you know, light can't win over darkness

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or something. There was some deceptive editing

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in the video, but I heard him very clearly say

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that piece. I'm like, really, bro? Have you not

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read this piece? It's been warned about for thousands

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of years. So that was one of the trustees or

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board members of the church, I think. The pastor's

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a female. She's a woman. I just saw that video.

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I haven't seen that one. And she's virtue signaling

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that we operate really mostly out of the Sermon

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on the Mount. Because Jesus' words to take care

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of the wandering soul, to bring in the impoverished,

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to feed the poor and all that. I'm like, well,

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what about the rest of the Bible? She even made

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a joking statement that we have a lot of atheists

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in our church and a lot of LGBTQ. In fact, we

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have an illegal person living in our church right

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now. She's saying all this stuff. Of course,

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she didn't know she was being plotted. She didn't

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know she was on camera. You know, all that says

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to me though, because it goes back to what we're

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just talking about, is that the enemy leverages

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biblical illiteracy. When you do not know the

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truth, you cannot be free. The Bible says you'll

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know the truth and the truth will make you free.

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But if you don't know the truth, then you can't

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be made free by it if you don't know it. And

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it's like a bank teller. You know, we've talked

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about this before. Everybody knows this illustration.

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My mother was taught, she was a bank teller early

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on. She was taught how to recognize counterfeit

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bills, counterfeit money. And the way she was

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taught to do that was she never handled counterfeit

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money. Only real money. Only real money. So she

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had a grid or a filter now for what the real

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thing is. So when anything false was to come

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through her hand, she would immediately recognize

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it. This is not the right way, wrong texture,

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doesn't feel right. It's not even wearing right.

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Something's amiss. And so, it's the same way.

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The further we move away from this book, the

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more illiterate we become biblically. We don't

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have a biblical worldview. We have a worldview,

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and it's a mishmash of all kinds of things. I'm

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going to give a definition of what that means

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to me, a biblical worldview, because it's thrown

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around very easily by all kinds of people. What

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do you actually mean by that? To me, it means

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this is the owner's manual of my life. And when

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I have a question about something, I go to that

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and I look at the Scripture. And there's going

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to be all kinds of different Scripture about

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my question, about what I'm looking for, but

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ultimately the truth is always in there because

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it's consistent. It's consistent from Old Testament

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to New Testament. So what I am worried about

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is that politically, because you brought up Talarico,

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this is a political issue between, you know,

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the Democrats and Republicans. What happens is,

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hey, man, look at Talarico. His pastor's no good.

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His elder's no good. He's no good. There, I said

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it. And then nothing else happens. Right. This

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is the danger that America faces. And it's just

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because I don't, I've heard Talarico's positions

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on thing, I just don't agree with him. So we

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are in fact attacking him on his faith, which

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is obviously skewed and incorrect. We got to

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be careful that we don't just do that. I'm like,

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okay, I did my bit. And then are we still going

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to go vote? Are we still going to go out? what

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is it and Convince people of who they should

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vote for and talk to people about or we're just

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gonna think we did it on social media That's

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where we lose every single time. Could we feel

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good? Yeah, man. I showed that guy. I did I showed

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that guy. Yeah, and You know, you sent me some

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clips will kind of fold into this because I really

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like this the first one is Chip Roy and the so

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-called Islam problem, the Muslim problem, I

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am not going to even try to debate theology with

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anybody. Am I going to go to someone, a Muslim,

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and say, hey man, Muhammad isn't real? I'm never

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going to win that, but when it comes into politics,

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that's where we can all play. That's where we

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don't have to learn to be a polemicist. We don't

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have to learn why, this is why Islam is wrong.

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No, no, no. We need to understand who the enemy

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is, which is not these people individually. It's

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not even the Bank of London or the City of London,

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but it is Satan himself, of course. And so Chip

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Roy does something here, which on one hand is

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good, but we have to follow it all the way through

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because this is about a document that is now

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37 years old. And I'll just, where did you get

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this from? Do you know where you got this clip

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from by any chance? He's talking somewhere, it's

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not. Yeah, it's a podcast. Oh, it's a podcast?

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Okay, here we go. So Chip Roy is a representative,

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is he from our district? He is actually. Okay,

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here in Texas. But I have taken a specific and

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personal interest in this, in trying to lay out

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what I believe is a war. And it's a war that

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was declared by the other side. And the phrasing

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that I try to use, is you can't win a war if

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you don't acknowledge it exists. And you just

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opened this segment with a clip that I could

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provide and you can find hundreds of. Hundreds

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of imams, hundreds of people that are cloaking

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themselves as reasonable and peaceful Muslims.

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Mom Donnie himself, leadership in Dearborn, leadership

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in... Minneapolis, you know, my colleague Ilhan

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Omar, I could go through a laundry list of examples,

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but particularly imams in Texas, who are carrying

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out, and this is important, the words war matter.

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And if you go back and look at the history, and

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I'm talking thousands a year history. I'm talking

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about the history all the way back to the Barbary

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Pirates and what Thomas Jefferson and our founders

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dealt with, all the way to now. And the history

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that goes back to pre 9 -11, goes back to before

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the 1993 World Trade Center bombings. In 1991,

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there was a memorandum produced by the Muslim

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Brotherhood in which they laid out. their cause

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of targeting the West, and in particular, the

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United States. And in that memo, there is a lot

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of stuff, but let me just read one element of

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it that I think is important. And it says, the

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process of settlement is a civilization jihadist

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process with all the word means. The Ikhwan must

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understand that their work in America is a kind

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of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying

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the Western civilization from within and sabotaging

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its miserable house by their hands and the hands

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of the believers so that it eliminated and God's

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religion is made victorious. over all other religions.

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Now that's the Muslim Brotherhood memo. That

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is at the core of what is driving the vast majority

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of those who are Muslims, who are carrying out

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the Islam faith in the United States. And we

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walk around as if we use the term radical Islam,

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but we don't acknowledge Islam itself at its

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core believes in Sharia law and it believes in

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carrying out that Grand Jihad against the West.

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So if we're all sitting here asleep, I'll stop

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filibustering here. But if we're all sitting

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here asleep at the switch and we're saying, well,

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this is America. You can believe what you want

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to believe. We have the First Amendment ship.

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That's not just for churches. It's not just for

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synagogues. It's not just for the agnostics or

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the atheists. It's also for the Muslims and so

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forth. Well, I would tell you, yes, you can believe

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whatever you want to believe in America. We're

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not going to force you to go to church, nor should

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we, but we can have a recognition. of our Judeo

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-Christian values and our Christian society.

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And we do have the ability and it's totally consistent

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with the First Amendment to have a civilization

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built on those principles, a rule of law and

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Western civilization built on those principles.

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And we can recognize Islam as what it is, a political

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ideology designed specifically to wage war with

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our culture, to undermine it and to Islamify

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it. True. But now I want to make sure we identify

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it where it is today This is a document if you

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ever seen the document. It's like, you know copy

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of a copy of a copy It looks all crooked and

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stuff like it's from the CIA files from the 50s

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So this came out during the so -called Holy Land

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Foundation trial, and people actually were indicted

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and sent to jail for what they were doing. They

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were conspiring against the country, and they

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were from the Muslim Brotherhood. This document

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came out in connection with CARE, the Council

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on American Islamic Relations. No one was convicted

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because of a procedural mistake. Their Fifth

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Amendment rights were violated, so they became

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an unindicted co -conspirator. So that's why

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Governor Abbott has declared them a foreign terrorist

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organization in Texas. I'm not quite sure where

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we are at the federal level. But you have to

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understand the Muslim Brotherhood, its origins,

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its true origin comes from Egypt in the early

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40s. when the the the British Crown embassy officials

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in Cairo made a deal with the Egyptian Prime

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Minister that the Egyptian government would pay

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subsidies to the Muslim Brotherhood All funded

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by by Britain and that Britain would put agents

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inside their organization and this was used later

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in the 50s during the Suez Canal crisis Where

00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:09.339
Nasr was, you know saying okay, we're in charge

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of the canal. This is a military leader We're

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taking it over and then the Muslim Brotherhood

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came in and they created a ruckus and eventually

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that was more or less disbanded But the Muslim

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Brotherhood never went away and their funding,

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I'm telling you, has always been from Britain.

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Everything you see in the Middle East has all

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been Muslim Brotherhood, this entire switch to

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Islam, the radical Islam that they have, the

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thinking they have. You've probably seen the

00:23:36.339 --> 00:23:38.900
pictures of what Syria looked like, Iran looked

00:23:38.900 --> 00:23:43.539
like. Right. That is all ultimately to control

00:23:43.539 --> 00:23:46.400
the oil, which was on the Middle East and British

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Petroleum had control of that. Now, this has

00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:53.500
never gone away. We're in a couple of text groups

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together, and we usually roll our eyes at some

00:23:56.440 --> 00:23:59.619
of these texts that come by. But I always look

00:23:59.619 --> 00:24:00.920
at what they're sending, because a lot of it

00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:03.059
is, you know, the Muslims are going to kill us.

00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:07.119
This was interesting. It was about a group called

00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:11.200
M -GAGE, E -M -G -A -G -E. And so I started to

00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:14.000
look into this, like, wow, okay, this is a group.

00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:16.799
because now it's politics. This is a group we

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actually have to be aware of and keep our eye

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on. So M -Gage has both a 501C3 and a 501C4 and

00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:28.400
a super PAC. So they have a nonprofit and then

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they have a lobbying organization, which is not

00:24:31.339 --> 00:24:33.500
tax deductible. Then a super PAC, which is not

00:24:33.500 --> 00:24:35.619
supposed to be connected to anything but wink,

00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:39.160
wink, nudge, nudge. Of course it is. Let's just

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talk about who's funding this group, and then

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I want to play a couple of clips from their current

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CEO. Top of the list is the Open Society Institute.

00:24:49.339 --> 00:24:52.380
This is George Soros. He's a Brit, okay? I don't

00:24:52.380 --> 00:24:54.940
care what you say about it. That's British money

00:24:54.940 --> 00:24:58.559
funding him, but that's not all. Silicon Valley

00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:01.539
Community Foundation. This is literally Silicon

00:25:01.539 --> 00:25:04.759
Valley. They have a vested interest in Muslims

00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:06.759
coming into work, and I'm talking about Indians

00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:11.319
mainly. The Ford Foundation Wow didn't see that

00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:16.200
one coming the tides advocacy foundation But

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also the 1630 fund which is belongs to the Arabella

00:25:20.819 --> 00:25:25.880
group. These are very rich very left -wing Democrat

00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:28.359
billionaires really who have been fun anything

00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:32.839
against they'll the Republicans Trump, etc So

00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:36.069
a lot of this goes to the super PAC you know,

00:25:36.529 --> 00:25:41.170
the, the squad, so it's AOC and, uh, Elon Omar.

00:25:41.569 --> 00:25:44.549
So all of, all they funded, all of them. Now,

00:25:45.410 --> 00:25:49.849
what's interesting is that, uh, the current president

00:25:49.849 --> 00:25:54.609
CEO, his name is, um, uh, Gula. Let me see what,

00:25:54.890 --> 00:25:56.750
uh, Muhammad Gula go figure. I could have remembered

00:25:56.750 --> 00:26:01.109
that first name. Um, he became CEO, uh, September

00:26:01.109 --> 00:26:03.009
of this year, but he'd been with the group for

00:26:03.009 --> 00:26:06.680
quite, quite a while. And when you look at his

00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:09.160
history and where he's coming from and how he

00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:12.599
doesn't even care who helps him, which side,

00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:15.299
this is where you need to look at to understand

00:26:15.299 --> 00:26:18.940
that this is a danger. So this is from a podcast,

00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:24.559
the Ansari podcast. It's not current, but that's

00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:28.259
okay. It's current enough. And here he is talking

00:26:28.259 --> 00:26:31.910
about Using the Democratic Party as the vehicle

00:26:31.910 --> 00:26:34.430
and this is what we've seen We've seen the Democrat

00:26:34.430 --> 00:26:38.869
Socialists of America team up with Muslims to

00:26:38.869 --> 00:26:44.009
win power in local government and federal government,

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but I had a mentor whose advice I was seeking

00:26:48.190 --> 00:26:52.130
I asked him I said what what do you feel like

00:26:52.130 --> 00:26:54.009
we should do it? And he asked me he said what

00:26:54.009 --> 00:26:57.289
is your what is your job? Like what is your role

00:26:57.289 --> 00:27:00.809
in our community? And he and I told him, I said,

00:27:00.849 --> 00:27:03.990
well, technically, I am a political strategist

00:27:03.990 --> 00:27:07.650
and I give advice to what would be the best political

00:27:07.650 --> 00:27:10.009
decision for our community. And he said, OK,

00:27:10.009 --> 00:27:14.069
what would you do? And and I told him my honest

00:27:14.069 --> 00:27:18.609
advice would be to go with Harris. Really? So

00:27:18.609 --> 00:27:22.329
why is that? It is because that the conditions

00:27:22.329 --> 00:27:29.200
that we need to advance Muslim policy and over

00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:33.259
all of the movement, even for Palestine, we only

00:27:33.259 --> 00:27:36.559
saw that pathway through the Democratic Party.

00:27:36.980 --> 00:27:39.759
It wasn't about Harris herself. It was about

00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:42.240
the reality that we did not have the Supreme

00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:45.920
Court. It was about the reality that we did not

00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:50.759
have the House of Representatives. In that moment,

00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:53.640
we did have the Senate, but we knew that we would

00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:56.480
lose it. Based on when you say something like

00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:58.799
that, because I know you're saying we as Democratic

00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:01.660
Party, that sounds like you guys are biased towards

00:28:01.660 --> 00:28:04.640
the Democratic Party. No, I was saying we as

00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:09.299
engage and the Muslim institution that uses that

00:28:09.299 --> 00:28:12.400
that works with. the Democratic Party at this

00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:14.680
moment because of the current political environment.

00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:17.720
So when I say we, I'm not saying specifically

00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:19.720
the Democratic Party, but rather the Democratic

00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:23.920
Party is the vehicle of which we pass laws. If

00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:26.980
there was an opportunity for me to use a third

00:28:26.980 --> 00:28:30.259
party, I would have used it. These guys are schooled.

00:28:30.259 --> 00:28:32.779
This guy and this organization has been around

00:28:32.779 --> 00:28:36.079
since 2008. And also, it's important to remember

00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:38.900
when President Obama came into office and he

00:28:38.900 --> 00:28:41.200
brought Hillary in, of course, as Secretary of

00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:43.779
State, the first thing he did is he invited the

00:28:43.779 --> 00:28:47.039
Muslim Brotherhood to the White House. And, I

00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:49.140
mean, he was a Muslim. He even made a mistake

00:28:49.140 --> 00:28:51.640
once on an interview and said, my Muslim faith,

00:28:51.700 --> 00:28:56.240
oh, I'm sorry, my Christian faith. Fine. But

00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.839
he brought the Muslim Brotherhood into the White

00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:02.900
House. Egypt had a huge problem with it. Three

00:29:02.900 --> 00:29:06.950
months later, Arab Spring, all Muslim Brotherhood.

00:29:07.569 --> 00:29:10.690
And I truly believe that's mainly the British

00:29:10.690 --> 00:29:14.789
Empire just got to keep all kinds of problems.

00:29:15.089 --> 00:29:17.349
And they wouldn't mind getting back at us what

00:29:17.349 --> 00:29:20.190
happened 250 years ago. I've thought about that.

00:29:20.410 --> 00:29:23.289
And it's just the financial world is the elites,

00:29:23.890 --> 00:29:26.609
the royal, you know, the crown, etc. It's not

00:29:26.609 --> 00:29:29.430
your typical Brit at all, not at all. But that

00:29:29.430 --> 00:29:32.809
is a big part of it. And even our brother Mohammed

00:29:32.809 --> 00:29:36.130
in the Middle East, he's written us, he said,

00:29:36.170 --> 00:29:38.970
oh man, I wish this Muslim brother, they're the

00:29:38.970 --> 00:29:41.170
guys that are making all the problems. We're

00:29:41.170 --> 00:29:43.970
still waiting for Mohammed to have dreams of

00:29:43.970 --> 00:29:45.789
the man in white and then he'll email us because

00:29:45.789 --> 00:29:49.809
we're ready to bring you a brother. So this guy

00:29:49.809 --> 00:29:52.910
and his group went to school in the Democrat

00:29:52.910 --> 00:29:55.910
party to learn how things happen and learn how

00:29:55.910 --> 00:29:58.460
to do it. And of course, The Democrats like,

00:29:58.460 --> 00:30:00.819
oh, we've got this whole new block. We can get

00:30:00.819 --> 00:30:02.980
all these Muslims in and vote for us. You know,

00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:05.319
no different from the black voting block or the

00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:07.700
Hispanic voting block. It's a lot smaller. It's

00:30:07.700 --> 00:30:10.240
a very small group, you know, 1 % of the entire

00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.619
country, but they, they were like, yeah, come

00:30:12.619 --> 00:30:14.859
on in. This is good. And these guys went, yeah,

00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.400
show me how it works. And it was then that something

00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:20.359
clicked in my head where I was like, yo, engagement.

00:30:20.700 --> 00:30:23.819
is the key to getting stuff passed. You hear

00:30:23.819 --> 00:30:25.720
this brother, you hear this engagement. They

00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:27.720
know what they're doing. So I joined the Bernie

00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:30.599
Sanders campaign in 2015. I was just a volunteer

00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:34.119
doing phone banking, text banking, door knocking,

00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:37.019
trying to get the Muslim community engaged. And

00:30:37.019 --> 00:30:39.720
they give you a list to knock on doors and stuff

00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:42.619
like no Muslim names were on that list. I was

00:30:42.619 --> 00:30:44.900
like, this is weird. So I joined the Hillary

00:30:44.900 --> 00:30:46.630
Clinton campaign. And I worked for the Daily

00:30:46.630 --> 00:30:49.990
Think campaign in Ohio in 2016. And I was working

00:30:49.990 --> 00:30:53.049
with the campaign on how to engage with the Muslim

00:30:53.049 --> 00:30:55.750
community. And the lists that I was getting did

00:30:55.750 --> 00:30:58.490
not have Muslim names on the list. And what I

00:30:58.490 --> 00:31:01.390
learned in my intention of joining these campaigns

00:31:01.390 --> 00:31:03.750
was to have an understanding of how campaigns

00:31:03.750 --> 00:31:07.930
work, but also how people make decisions on campaigns.

00:31:08.710 --> 00:31:13.220
So if we think for any stretch of the imagination

00:31:13.220 --> 00:31:15.960
that by yelling on Facebook or telling people

00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:19.019
their faith is no good, that this is going to

00:31:19.019 --> 00:31:21.319
change anything. We're wrong. We need this kind

00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:24.880
of engagement. This is what we as Christians

00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.319
and believers need to do. This is how we save

00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:31.200
the country. And I love our boys in the text

00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:33.140
group, but where's the follow -up, man? It's

00:31:33.140 --> 00:31:35.539
like, what are we doing? And we have Matt Long,

00:31:35.660 --> 00:31:38.119
who is right here in the church after service.

00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:41.839
He helps you get registered. Also Abraham Enriquez.

00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:46.259
Oh, yeah. He mobilized the Hispanic vote in South

00:31:46.259 --> 00:31:47.900
Texas. That's a great example. One county after

00:31:47.900 --> 00:31:50.660
county after county. And he's a young man who's

00:31:50.660 --> 00:31:52.460
on fire, and he's doing this. In fact, he'll

00:31:52.460 --> 00:31:54.920
be speaking at our church October 11th. Oh, nice.

00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:57.640
Yeah, he'll be preaching. I saw him at the dinner

00:31:57.640 --> 00:31:59.920
we went to. The guy is a great young kid. What

00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:02.920
is he, 26, 27? Yeah, yeah, he's young. So anyway,

00:32:03.099 --> 00:32:07.460
we'll have him. But instead of anti -Islam, pro

00:32:07.460 --> 00:32:11.059
-Christianity. Go there. Don't be afraid. My

00:32:11.059 --> 00:32:13.599
whole thing is set up. And you just took my punchline.

00:32:13.740 --> 00:32:15.720
I'm sorry. No, it's all good. It's all good.

00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:22.220
I feel like Tina right now. That's why I sent

00:32:22.220 --> 00:32:26.559
you two clips because one is the problem. The

00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:29.779
second clip is the solution. When it was created,

00:32:30.339 --> 00:32:33.500
how do we do this? We need to completely reverse

00:32:33.500 --> 00:32:38.140
the lukewarmness of Western Christianity. A tepid

00:32:38.140 --> 00:32:40.960
applause by the way. They were all in though.

00:32:41.339 --> 00:32:42.940
They were trying to figure out, I mean, he was

00:32:42.940 --> 00:32:47.500
so good and so smart. And this is Dr. J. Smith.

00:32:47.980 --> 00:32:50.740
I just thought it was hilarious because Luke

00:32:50.740 --> 00:32:54.359
warm and then the applause is like, I know they

00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:57.220
all got into it because I saw this, but it was

00:32:57.220 --> 00:32:59.319
like, okay, this is exactly the point that he's

00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:00.940
making. The warmness of the Western Christianity.

00:33:06.179 --> 00:33:08.400
Should I clap here? And this is where your pastor

00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:11.700
has been amazingly efficient. We need to have

00:33:11.700 --> 00:33:15.160
a 24 -7, 365, that means 24 hours a day, seven

00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:19.299
days a week, 365 days a year. We need to have

00:33:19.299 --> 00:33:21.660
Christians to live the gospel of Jesus Christ.

00:33:22.460 --> 00:33:24.400
When asked what was more important, reading the

00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:26.819
Bible or praying, spirits responded, what is

00:33:26.819 --> 00:33:29.299
more important, breathing in or breathing out.

00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:33.609
And that's exactly what we need to do. I'd love

00:33:33.609 --> 00:33:35.490
that. What's more important, breathing in or

00:33:35.490 --> 00:33:38.150
breathing out? Well, you kind of need both. That's

00:33:38.150 --> 00:33:41.509
a Charles Spurgeon quote. I never heard that.

00:33:41.769 --> 00:33:45.990
I love that. That was really good. So the point

00:33:45.990 --> 00:33:49.789
is, and people don't have to be afraid of this,

00:33:50.630 --> 00:33:55.049
if you just say, yeah, praise God for that, or

00:33:55.049 --> 00:33:59.150
you give off a signal, the believers will decloak.

00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:01.359
The people who don't know what you're saying

00:34:01.359 --> 00:34:05.400
will not hate you. This is my experience. Everywhere

00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:09.280
I do this, they will not hate you. You're the

00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:13.440
master at, can I pray for you? The people don't

00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:16.460
even have to do that. Just show that you are

00:34:16.460 --> 00:34:19.420
a believer. You'd be surprised how many people

00:34:19.420 --> 00:34:23.360
are like, oh, oh, oh, you're in the club. That's

00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:26.280
what we need. That fear needs to drop away. You're

00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:28.780
not going to get stoned. You're just not. Fear's

00:34:28.780 --> 00:34:32.119
a smokescreen. Yes. From the devil. Of all the

00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:35.079
people that I've asked for all my life as a Christian,

00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:38.380
say, could I pray for you? Yeah. I've never once

00:34:38.380 --> 00:34:41.380
been turned down, ever. Right. That's a pretty

00:34:41.380 --> 00:34:44.179
good track record. And it's not because I'm so

00:34:44.179 --> 00:34:47.599
winsome or anything. It's just people genuinely

00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:50.539
appreciate it, even if they're not of your faith.

00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.239
The Muslim one, when we prayed for recently,

00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:57.860
she was like, yes, thank you. I mean, because

00:34:57.860 --> 00:35:00.179
I just said out loud, you need the Prince of

00:35:00.179 --> 00:35:03.440
Peace. And she was like, I want that. So people

00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:06.500
are open to that. Rita last week, just, man,

00:35:06.539 --> 00:35:09.800
she needed prayer. I mean, people are open and

00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:12.139
ready. But the solution is, I want to repeat

00:35:12.139 --> 00:35:14.619
what he said, we need to completely reverse the

00:35:14.619 --> 00:35:18.179
lukewarmness of Western Christianity. We need

00:35:18.179 --> 00:35:22.840
24 -7, 365 Christians to live the gospel of Jesus

00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:26.380
Christ. And then when asked what was more important,

00:35:26.380 --> 00:35:28.599
reading the Bible or praying, Charles Spurgeon

00:35:28.599 --> 00:35:30.980
responded, what is more important, breathing

00:35:30.980 --> 00:35:33.980
in or breathing out? And that's the thing is

00:35:33.980 --> 00:35:37.219
we've got to get people praying again, but we've

00:35:37.219 --> 00:35:40.940
also got to bring out the book. And that is critical

00:35:40.940 --> 00:35:45.760
to winning the war on any front, not just Islam.

00:35:46.420 --> 00:35:49.900
Islam isn't the issue. It's biblical. It's Christians

00:35:49.900 --> 00:35:53.280
being unbiblical. They're the danger because

00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:55.639
they're the ones who go online and spew all kinds

00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:58.300
of stuff. They're armchair theologians. They've

00:35:58.300 --> 00:36:01.659
got the spirit of Simon Cowell on them to criticize

00:36:01.659 --> 00:36:04.480
and judge everything somebody does. I saw this

00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:08.760
Dion Sanders clip where he bows his head, he'd

00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:13.840
just come off of a huge game at University of

00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:16.639
Colorado, had just come out of the locker room,

00:36:17.099 --> 00:36:19.380
he was sweating, he was huffing and puffing,

00:36:19.780 --> 00:36:21.880
he sits down with the press corps, you know,

00:36:21.940 --> 00:36:25.519
after the game, and he paused for a moment, he

00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:28.380
bowed his head, didn't even realize he's on camera

00:36:28.380 --> 00:36:31.039
or the mic's on live, and he prays in tongues

00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:32.500
for a minute. Oh, really? I didn't see this.

00:36:32.500 --> 00:36:35.030
Very light, though. I mean, he just... All he

00:36:35.030 --> 00:36:36.849
was doing was trying to calm his spirit down

00:36:36.849 --> 00:36:39.010
because he was like, I've been just running and

00:36:39.010 --> 00:36:40.710
gunning one thing to another. And he's like,

00:36:40.769 --> 00:36:43.269
took a minute and people lost their crap over

00:36:43.269 --> 00:36:47.630
it. Christians are upset with him because he

00:36:47.630 --> 00:36:51.250
didn't have biblical discernment. I'm going,

00:36:51.650 --> 00:36:54.829
the dude was wiped out and he took a moment to

00:36:54.829 --> 00:37:00.139
pause and the mic was there. Just a moment. And

00:37:00.139 --> 00:37:02.500
it was something that he did for himself. He

00:37:02.500 --> 00:37:05.480
wasn't trying to make a spectacle out of himself.

00:37:05.940 --> 00:37:09.139
He wasn't pushing a theology. He was just praying

00:37:09.139 --> 00:37:12.079
for a minute in a way that he prays. And for

00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:15.400
the Christ curious who are new to this, speaking

00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:17.420
in tongues, we call that your prayer language.

00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:20.260
Yeah. And that's what you should look at is,

00:37:20.380 --> 00:37:22.440
what is my prayer language? How do I get my prayer

00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:25.300
language? It's not scary. It's not freaky. You're

00:37:25.300 --> 00:37:27.420
not levitating, anything like that. It's just

00:37:27.420 --> 00:37:30.320
not. You're not. I can say it because I've been

00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:32.039
through this and I still remember when I got

00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:35.079
my prayer language. I still remember it. So let's

00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:37.599
go to the book for a second because there's a

00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:42.920
pastor and his name is Turnboro. I don't know

00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:46.360
if you've ever heard of him. Pastor Turnboro,

00:37:46.780 --> 00:37:50.219
and he was on a podcast, the We Need to Talk

00:37:50.219 --> 00:37:54.559
podcast earlier this year. And this guy, he's

00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:57.980
a black pastor. and he speaks real fast, but

00:37:57.980 --> 00:38:01.519
this came across my feed, someone sent it to

00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.500
me like, well, isn't that interesting? So let's

00:38:04.500 --> 00:38:06.820
listen to this and then we'll see. He wants us

00:38:06.820 --> 00:38:09.239
to go to the book, but also a different book

00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:11.099
that talks about the book. So we'll get to the

00:38:11.099 --> 00:38:12.980
book when we get the book out and we get to the

00:38:12.980 --> 00:38:14.639
book, book, book. You were talking about some

00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:17.820
things about Trump and about how God has revealed

00:38:17.820 --> 00:38:21.110
what this administration means. A lot of people

00:38:21.110 --> 00:38:23.510
have a problem when you speak on those things.

00:38:23.710 --> 00:38:26.210
I just wanted to take a moment to kind of shed

00:38:26.210 --> 00:38:29.130
light. What's the issue? What were you saying?

00:38:29.230 --> 00:38:30.389
Because there's some things that you were speaking

00:38:30.389 --> 00:38:33.250
revelatory about as it related to the administration

00:38:33.250 --> 00:38:35.670
and Trump being in place and what that meant.

00:38:36.010 --> 00:38:37.949
So could you share a little bit on this platform?

00:38:38.070 --> 00:38:39.610
I don't care if the stones get thrown. It's okay.

00:38:39.849 --> 00:38:42.650
No, when people are told something negative about

00:38:42.650 --> 00:38:45.309
someone and they believe it, people don't like

00:38:45.309 --> 00:38:47.630
to repent. They don't like to say that they're

00:38:47.630 --> 00:38:50.530
wrong. And they need to feel comfortable in their

00:38:50.530 --> 00:38:54.570
beliefs. Now keep in mind that that we have to

00:38:54.570 --> 00:38:57.460
put a whole Like I always say I don't care about

00:38:57.460 --> 00:39:00.159
the sinners. They supposed to be dumb Okay, Bible

00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.099
makes that very very clear. It says the wicked

00:39:02.099 --> 00:39:03.659
run from stuff and there's nothing even chasing

00:39:03.659 --> 00:39:05.519
them So sinners don't even count when it comes

00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:07.099
to this equation. The Bible says they don't have

00:39:07.099 --> 00:39:08.619
wisdom They don't even have enough sense to accept

00:39:08.619 --> 00:39:10.760
Jesus and Jesus died for them Somebody offers

00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:12.920
you eternal life and imagine you're gonna reject

00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:14.400
that and keep on smoking We can go to the club

00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:16.019
and pop bottles. Yeah, you go ahead with that.

00:39:16.019 --> 00:39:19.179
You're not even a part of the equation Preach

00:39:19.179 --> 00:39:21.139
for a second there brother back to the podcast

00:39:21.139 --> 00:39:24.219
when it comes to Christians most of them are

00:39:24.219 --> 00:39:27.289
just regular people Oh, they don't like to change

00:39:27.289 --> 00:39:29.710
so they believe certain things about certain

00:39:29.710 --> 00:39:31.989
individuals and they've been told something for

00:39:31.989 --> 00:39:36.269
so long that they want to believe it and Again,

00:39:36.269 --> 00:39:38.489
always tell people the Holy Spirit told me years

00:39:38.489 --> 00:39:42.130
ago When when the people picked the leader God

00:39:42.130 --> 00:39:45.150
does not like him when God picks the leader the

00:39:45.150 --> 00:39:47.369
people don't like him Well, this this is what

00:39:47.369 --> 00:39:50.289
got me. I'm like what? What is this? That's a

00:39:50.289 --> 00:39:52.670
good line. He gives some some examples. Hmm.

00:39:52.869 --> 00:39:54.860
They didn't like Moses They didn't like Jesus.

00:39:55.260 --> 00:39:56.920
They didn't like David at first. Only reason

00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:59.679
they accepted David is because he beat Goliath

00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:02.019
out and then King Saul still tried to kill him.

00:40:02.179 --> 00:40:04.440
See, so when God picks a leader, and here's the

00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:07.099
other problem, God picks a leader based on his

00:40:07.099 --> 00:40:09.159
purposes. He does not pick a leader so that you

00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:11.500
can keep your health insurance. God got bigger

00:40:11.500 --> 00:40:13.039
things to think about than your health insurance.

00:40:13.699 --> 00:40:15.119
He has bigger things to think about than your

00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.070
little social security. Watch this he got bigger

00:40:17.070 --> 00:40:19.150
things to think about than egg prices and gas

00:40:19.150 --> 00:40:22.329
prices. I mean come on the truth brother This

00:40:22.329 --> 00:40:25.090
was this hit me so hard. I'm like and I'm sure

00:40:25.090 --> 00:40:27.670
we can find many other examples of scripture

00:40:27.670 --> 00:40:31.210
of God's chosen leaders and men who were you

00:40:31.210 --> 00:40:34.429
know hated hated by people so he continues and

00:40:34.429 --> 00:40:36.449
This is where it really got interesting for me

00:40:36.449 --> 00:40:39.670
So but the problem is is that whenever God uses

00:40:39.670 --> 00:40:42.489
you Satan will seek to mess up your character

00:40:43.899 --> 00:40:46.760
Am amazed there is a book there if we put this

00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:48.199
up and let you know you can just do it I can

00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:50.119
just hear it is a book called the paradigm by

00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:53.440
Jonathan Cahn Every person that read that book

00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:56.639
said I was wrong about Donald Trump every person

00:40:56.639 --> 00:40:58.920
and guess what I've told people before you argue

00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:01.239
with me Read the book guess what they do. They

00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:03.039
don't read the book and try to argue with me

00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:04.619
So let me know your mentality. You don't like

00:41:04.619 --> 00:41:07.920
to educate yourself. You just like to argue So

00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:11.599
have you ever heard of this book? Yes, so Jonathan

00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:14.539
Cahn, you know, he's Jewish. I don't know anything

00:41:14.539 --> 00:41:17.719
about him. So, have you read this book? No, I've

00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:19.099
not read it. I haven't read it, but of course

00:41:19.099 --> 00:41:21.599
I went to figure out what was in it. So, the

00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:25.420
paradigm is, from what I understand, is he shows

00:41:25.420 --> 00:41:30.559
repeats of people and cycles and situations throughout

00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:33.219
history, all based upon what has been documented

00:41:33.219 --> 00:41:36.880
in the Bible. And so, what this pastor is saying

00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:43.840
is from Georgia. He says that This is a biblical

00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:48.460
I guess he gives it a biblical comparison from

00:41:48.460 --> 00:41:54.500
this book The ancient paradigm So here's here's

00:41:54.500 --> 00:41:57.519
here's the cast of characters Bill and Hillary

00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:01.420
Clinton are Ahab and Jezebel in this not hard

00:42:01.420 --> 00:42:05.039
to see actually So he's the king who did more

00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:07.280
evil than those before him and the foreign -born

00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.099
wife who brought him Baal and drove the prophets

00:42:10.099 --> 00:42:17.800
out So he's saying that Trump would be like Jehu.

00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:23.940
King Jehu. King Jehu, yes. Whose crudeness, and

00:42:23.940 --> 00:42:27.179
he wasn't, people, God was not even particularly

00:42:27.179 --> 00:42:30.380
happy with him. But this, you know, he goes to

00:42:30.380 --> 00:42:34.760
King's 1029, he did not however destroy the gold

00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:44.989
calves at Bethel and Dan, which, The Lord said

00:42:44.989 --> 00:42:47.289
to Jehu, you have done well in following my instruction

00:42:47.289 --> 00:42:50.210
to destroy the family of Ahab. Therefore, your

00:42:50.210 --> 00:42:52.230
descendants will be kings of Israel down to the

00:42:52.230 --> 00:42:54.230
fourth generation." It just goes on and on and

00:42:54.230 --> 00:42:56.230
on and on. I'll put all the scripture will be

00:42:56.230 --> 00:43:00.269
in the show notes. But I'm like, wow, this actually

00:43:00.269 --> 00:43:04.329
kind of makes sense. I mean, the whole book just

00:43:04.329 --> 00:43:07.369
goes. on and on and on, and you look at him like,

00:43:07.389 --> 00:43:11.889
yeah, that's Trump. And he was there to, because

00:43:11.889 --> 00:43:14.449
I always consider the Clintons to be like middle

00:43:14.449 --> 00:43:17.190
management for the city of London, you know,

00:43:17.449 --> 00:43:19.570
they're kind of in between everybody. And then,

00:43:19.590 --> 00:43:21.369
you know, you got a hundred million dollars through

00:43:21.369 --> 00:43:24.130
your foundation, but they've always, then she's

00:43:24.130 --> 00:43:26.650
still here. She's still cackling away trying

00:43:26.650 --> 00:43:30.590
to get people to hate everybody else. What do

00:43:30.590 --> 00:43:32.230
you think of this comparison? Because it really

00:43:32.230 --> 00:43:34.110
struck me. I'm like, is this how we can look

00:43:34.110 --> 00:43:36.550
at the Bible as well as Scripture at these repeated

00:43:36.550 --> 00:43:42.210
cycles? Well, I mean, I like looking back at

00:43:42.210 --> 00:43:45.130
history and then watching for recurring signs.

00:43:45.309 --> 00:43:48.469
I mean, you see patterns emerge, right? That's

00:43:48.469 --> 00:43:51.530
why I think Islam is a legitimate concern because

00:43:51.530 --> 00:43:54.429
of the history and not because of what I'm seeing

00:43:54.429 --> 00:43:57.730
in McKinney or Frisco, Texas or any of those,

00:43:57.730 --> 00:44:01.369
although those are out flows from that, but you

00:44:01.369 --> 00:44:05.230
see those patterns. So I could see how you could

00:44:05.230 --> 00:44:08.190
do that. I think you got to be careful. You're

00:44:08.190 --> 00:44:11.869
on kind of thin ice a little bit there when you

00:44:11.869 --> 00:44:16.670
start making direct comparisons. I think you

00:44:16.670 --> 00:44:19.510
can look at and say the characteristics of King

00:44:19.510 --> 00:44:22.829
Jehu was interesting because God did commission

00:44:22.829 --> 00:44:25.349
him. He genuinely commissioned him for a task.

00:44:26.010 --> 00:44:29.480
Jehu went after it with all of his zeal. and

00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.639
yet he never really became fully devoted to God,

00:44:33.380 --> 00:44:37.260
but yet he was chosen by God. Cyrus of Persia

00:44:37.260 --> 00:44:40.239
was chosen by God. I mean, scripture even says

00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:43.039
the heart of the king is in God's hand and he

00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:46.880
turns it as he wills. So, I mean, even when you

00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:50.099
have a wicked king, God will use him like a pawn

00:44:50.099 --> 00:44:54.840
in the theater of history or the chessboard of

00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:57.860
history. And so, yeah, I think it's interesting.

00:44:58.219 --> 00:45:04.320
Man, I can definitely see parallels between Jezebel

00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:09.659
and Ahab. But I've never dove into this enough

00:45:09.659 --> 00:45:12.980
to think, to have a strong opinion on that comparison.

00:45:14.219 --> 00:45:16.300
I also don't recommend anyone get hung up on

00:45:16.300 --> 00:45:17.659
it. Yeah, it's something you can get hung up

00:45:17.659 --> 00:45:20.840
on. But I do see that he does have great zeal

00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:25.050
for our country. Great zeal. He has I would call

00:45:25.050 --> 00:45:28.489
him a God -fearer. He has a fear of God in the

00:45:28.489 --> 00:45:32.730
sense of recognizing the importance of God and

00:45:32.730 --> 00:45:36.170
faith and religion. But to say that he's taken

00:45:36.170 --> 00:45:38.889
that big bold step over the line, some say he

00:45:38.889 --> 00:45:44.349
has, I don't know for sure. I don't know. That's

00:45:44.349 --> 00:45:46.469
an interesting comparison. I'd love to kind of

00:45:46.469 --> 00:45:49.349
deep dive a little bit more into Jehu knowing

00:45:49.349 --> 00:45:51.489
that he was chosen as an instrument of judgment.

00:45:51.809 --> 00:45:55.289
I mean, he was used for that. So, but does that

00:45:55.289 --> 00:45:57.969
mean J. Hugh himself was redeemed fully? You

00:45:57.969 --> 00:45:59.250
know, that's the thing. Clearly, clearly not

00:45:59.250 --> 00:46:03.730
really from what we can read. But just going

00:46:03.730 --> 00:46:05.869
back to what he originally said, like when God

00:46:05.869 --> 00:46:07.849
chooses the leader, the people hate him. Now

00:46:07.849 --> 00:46:10.210
that's on. That's spot on. That's so straight

00:46:10.210 --> 00:46:13.389
up right there. That is true. That is true. This

00:46:13.389 --> 00:46:15.230
kind of brings, you said a couple of things,

00:46:15.329 --> 00:46:17.369
this brings me to a question that Tina and I

00:46:17.369 --> 00:46:20.429
had, we were talking to each other, another Easter

00:46:20.429 --> 00:46:27.369
egg. when we pray Lord if it is your will and

00:46:27.369 --> 00:46:29.309
So this is where we're newbie believers here.

00:46:29.309 --> 00:46:32.650
So we're four years into this like But God already

00:46:32.650 --> 00:46:34.989
knows what his will is. In fact, God already

00:46:34.989 --> 00:46:38.590
knows What we're gonna do God already knows the

00:46:38.590 --> 00:46:41.769
outcome What are we actually praying for when

00:46:41.769 --> 00:46:44.590
we say if it is your will? I know that we're

00:46:44.590 --> 00:46:47.030
not I'm not praying for it. Please give me a

00:46:47.030 --> 00:46:49.190
million dollars. Please make my life better I'm

00:46:49.190 --> 00:46:52.579
saying Lord if it is your will Let us have a

00:46:52.579 --> 00:46:57.579
great podcast today so we can be obedient to

00:46:57.579 --> 00:47:00.440
what you want us to do. And if not, then adjust

00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:05.039
us. But do you understand the dichotomy here?

00:47:05.059 --> 00:47:07.820
Yeah, there's attention. So if it's your will,

00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:10.860
well, his will is his will. So am I praying for

00:47:10.860 --> 00:47:14.599
me to receive obedience and do what he wants

00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:17.440
me to do? I see you smiling. You're looking like,

00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:19.679
man, this Christian is a lost brother. I got

00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:21.940
to set him straight. Not at all. Not at all.

00:47:22.099 --> 00:47:24.320
I mean, because I've had to wrestle through all

00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:26.780
that in my own journey, you know, my own journey

00:47:26.780 --> 00:47:29.519
of faith. We do live in tension constantly because

00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:31.599
we live in tension between two truths, and that

00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:35.119
is the free will of man that God gave us and

00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.119
the sovereignty of God. Can I just stop you there?

00:47:38.420 --> 00:47:41.519
So he gave us free will, but he already knows

00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:43.739
what we're going to do. He knows he sees the

00:47:43.739 --> 00:47:45.980
end from the beginning. Does that mean that we

00:47:45.980 --> 00:47:51.440
can still change? My brain is crying. My belief

00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:55.000
on that is not every step is going to be the

00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:57.079
same. We're still going to end up where we need

00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:00.400
to be because he can see that. He's God. He's

00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:03.619
beyond time. He's not limited to linear time

00:48:03.619 --> 00:48:10.900
like we are, chronological time. Okay, we're

00:48:10.900 --> 00:48:14.719
at point A. We're trying to get to point K. In

00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:16.980
between, there's a lot of letters, right? And

00:48:16.980 --> 00:48:20.000
there's a lot of variables in between. And I

00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:22.239
believe that in the sovereignty and the plan

00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:24.820
of God, the outcome will be what He wills it

00:48:24.820 --> 00:48:28.239
to be. But the timing could be different because…

00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:32.719
Timing, the path, I can take the long way around

00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:34.559
the mountain or I can go over or through the

00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:36.239
mountain. You know what I mean? That's up to

00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:38.920
me. Those are decisions I make on a daily basis.

00:48:39.389 --> 00:48:42.829
but the outcome is going to be good. So, because

00:48:42.829 --> 00:48:46.769
God is timeless, He has no time, yet we do, maybe

00:48:46.769 --> 00:48:48.809
that's where the difference is. Like, my free

00:48:48.809 --> 00:48:52.449
will, He knew that I was going to get here and

00:48:52.449 --> 00:48:57.610
be a voice for Him wherever. How I got here and

00:48:57.610 --> 00:48:59.989
how long it took me, well, that was my own...

00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:03.260
It's the free will place. Sorry, Lord, I should

00:49:03.260 --> 00:49:06.920
have done it earlier. I'm a little late to the

00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:09.460
party, but I'm still here. But you're here. I'm

00:49:09.460 --> 00:49:12.119
here. No, there's that tension that we... And

00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:15.940
this comes back to trust. Do we trust God in

00:49:15.940 --> 00:49:18.820
the bigger scheme of things? Even Jesus understood

00:49:18.820 --> 00:49:21.739
this principle, right? He's the son of man, but

00:49:21.739 --> 00:49:24.800
also the son of God, so he was flesh, human,

00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:27.980
but he's also fully God. So he already understands

00:49:27.980 --> 00:49:30.809
all these dynamics, and yet... under massive

00:49:30.809 --> 00:49:32.829
pressure in the Garden of Gethsemane. He still

00:49:32.829 --> 00:49:36.489
says, Father, let this cup pass me by. Which

00:49:36.489 --> 00:49:39.389
is code for, if there's any other way, can we

00:49:39.389 --> 00:49:42.530
do this? And he asked that question, but then

00:49:42.530 --> 00:49:45.989
he comes back to the will. Yes. And he said to

00:49:45.989 --> 00:49:50.550
the plant, nevertheless. Your will be done. Yeah.

00:49:50.789 --> 00:49:54.030
Yeah, not my will, but yours be done. So we see

00:49:54.030 --> 00:49:56.730
that tension being played out in a very human

00:49:56.730 --> 00:49:59.889
moment. How do we use that tension? Is that the

00:49:59.889 --> 00:50:02.369
tension we can use in prayer? Can we use it just

00:50:02.369 --> 00:50:05.309
in our daily life and our meditating on Scripture?

00:50:05.570 --> 00:50:07.550
I don't know about using it. I would just say

00:50:07.550 --> 00:50:10.070
it's a part of the game. It's a part and parcel

00:50:10.070 --> 00:50:15.610
with who we are. My amazing philosophy professor,

00:50:15.630 --> 00:50:17.750
Dr. Wallace Roark, pulled me into his office

00:50:17.750 --> 00:50:21.429
one day and said, he said, Mr. Pruitt, is there

00:50:21.429 --> 00:50:24.090
a knot in your stomach? I mean, without any context,

00:50:24.190 --> 00:50:28.389
just says it. And I paused. And I said, yes,

00:50:28.389 --> 00:50:31.909
there is. He said, only be afraid if it ever

00:50:31.909 --> 00:50:35.750
goes away. He was talking about living life in

00:50:35.750 --> 00:50:38.690
tension. Apparently he could see that in me because

00:50:38.690 --> 00:50:42.269
I would question in class some of these things

00:50:42.269 --> 00:50:44.869
we were talking about and I would bring a biblical

00:50:44.869 --> 00:50:47.579
perspective. But I was also willing to question

00:50:47.579 --> 00:50:49.900
my own interpretation of the Bible in it. So,

00:50:49.900 --> 00:50:52.119
I was living in the tension, right? Isn't that

00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.760
every day? That's what we do all day long. So,

00:50:55.780 --> 00:50:57.519
I don't know that the tension is something to

00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:00.400
be used. It's something to be acknowledged and

00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:03.400
to be embraced. When you embrace the tension

00:51:03.400 --> 00:51:06.960
of these dichotomies that we live in every day,

00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:11.139
then there's a peace that comes in that. So,

00:51:12.739 --> 00:51:16.849
I trust God with the truth of the free will of

00:51:16.849 --> 00:51:20.289
man, we can make decisions. Somebody can choose

00:51:20.289 --> 00:51:23.230
not to hit the brake at the stop sign in T -bone

00:51:23.230 --> 00:51:26.329
and kill somebody. Was that God's plan for them?

00:51:26.710 --> 00:51:29.829
No, not necessarily. We can circumvent that.

00:51:30.750 --> 00:51:34.389
So much of our life is spent by embracing the

00:51:34.389 --> 00:51:36.989
tension, I would say, realigning ourselves with

00:51:36.989 --> 00:51:41.389
Him. That's what this book does. That's what

00:51:41.389 --> 00:51:45.480
prayer does. That's what having godly conversations

00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:48.400
with friends does. We learn from each other.

00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:52.199
We postulate questions and then sometimes we

00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:54.099
get answers and sometimes we just have to live

00:51:54.099 --> 00:51:57.599
with the question, intention. So the tension

00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:00.659
to me is what grows us. It's what, but it also

00:52:00.659 --> 00:52:03.760
keeps us humble and it keeps us dependent on

00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:06.900
Him. If you're a control freak, you're going

00:52:06.900 --> 00:52:10.699
to struggle following Jesus. The humility, the

00:52:10.699 --> 00:52:13.849
humbleness, humility is is such a wonderful part

00:52:13.849 --> 00:52:16.550
of being a believer. And I'll give you an example.

00:52:16.769 --> 00:52:19.969
Yesterday, we had a Godcaster meeting with an

00:52:19.969 --> 00:52:23.449
existing client, big opportunity for us to upgrade

00:52:23.449 --> 00:52:28.030
this client to something else. And so we're on

00:52:28.030 --> 00:52:33.230
a Zoom call and we're talking. And at a certain

00:52:33.230 --> 00:52:36.510
point, he was complimenting us on what we were

00:52:36.510 --> 00:52:39.400
showing. I said, Brother all glory to God because

00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:41.719
you know, this is literally where this comes

00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:44.860
from I know that and what happened was the guy

00:52:44.860 --> 00:52:48.760
who can give us this deal or not he says, you

00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:51.920
know, it's so true because I was a drug addict

00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:55.599
in Malibu and I was broken and I was and now

00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:58.139
all of a sudden I'm here I'm in Houston, you

00:52:58.139 --> 00:53:01.739
know is a great position he says and he just

00:53:01.739 --> 00:53:04.239
went on for a little bit and it was just like

00:53:04.239 --> 00:53:07.900
That I've been in business a long time And business

00:53:07.900 --> 00:53:13.320
is basically filled with deceit and lies and

00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:15.420
corruption. I mean, I'll never forget when we

00:53:15.420 --> 00:53:17.780
had public, that's a podcast for another day,

00:53:18.179 --> 00:53:21.639
the lies and deceit of the so -called honest

00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:25.380
financial markets and people and high level people

00:53:25.380 --> 00:53:28.000
who just will lie to your face and come back

00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:29.840
and say, sorry, I decided not to do. I mean,

00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:32.539
but this, and this has happened to me time and

00:53:32.539 --> 00:53:36.099
time again when we're... Because we're a Godcaster.

00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:41.280
We have products for believers. We're not messing

00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:46.260
around. This is what we're doing. And we don't

00:53:46.260 --> 00:53:48.239
get every single contract, every single deal.

00:53:48.780 --> 00:53:51.760
But even if that's not going to happen, nine

00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:54.960
times out of 10, the person we are pitching to

00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:58.039
will say, before we hang up, can I just pray

00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:00.599
for you and your company and your project? And

00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:05.639
it is so wonderful. It is so wonderful. Hold

00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:09.380
on a second. I've been talking so long that my

00:54:09.380 --> 00:54:13.840
screensaver kicked in. Got to watch that. So

00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:17.079
I just want to briefly go back to what's going

00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:19.840
on with, as the president now calls it, super

00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:21.880
intelligence. I want to make a recommendation

00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:26.039
for people who hear us talking about robots and

00:54:26.039 --> 00:54:29.039
is a new player on the scene, not a new player,

00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:30.920
but there's a player on the scene who I think

00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:35.340
is doing something very interesting, didn't expect

00:54:35.340 --> 00:54:39.119
it, could have expected it from him. And that's

00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:42.679
Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook, Metta, Instagram.

00:54:43.340 --> 00:54:47.119
Everybody uses his product. He has a new robot.

00:54:47.659 --> 00:54:50.460
It's called Muse. And while everybody is all

00:54:50.460 --> 00:54:53.719
focusing on big business and enterprise and we're

00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:55.539
hacking each other and the whole world's going

00:54:55.539 --> 00:54:57.800
to burn and we're all going to die and slow it

00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:00.619
down, he has done something super interesting.

00:55:01.099 --> 00:55:04.559
So you get this app and you can use quite a lot

00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:07.019
of it for free before you have to pay for it.

00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:10.119
And you essentially get a computer in the cloud

00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.500
and this computer is constantly running, doing

00:55:12.500 --> 00:55:15.639
things for you. And this robot doesn't talk to

00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:18.780
you. I like that. It's just in a chat. You can

00:55:18.780 --> 00:55:21.119
hit the microphone and talk instead of typing.

00:55:22.949 --> 00:55:26.889
It is programmed specifically to help you with

00:55:26.889 --> 00:55:30.250
your life like an actual robot assistant. It's

00:55:30.250 --> 00:55:33.449
not sucking up to you. It's not trying to tell

00:55:33.449 --> 00:55:35.989
you things. It says, hey, do you want to give

00:55:35.989 --> 00:55:37.949
me access to your calendar? It can be read only.

00:55:38.170 --> 00:55:40.909
There's nothing that it does that you don't allow

00:55:40.909 --> 00:55:45.030
it to. And it will make suggestions, reminders.

00:55:45.650 --> 00:55:48.769
If you have a task, it'll set up different. It

00:55:48.769 --> 00:55:52.300
is truly a robot. In fact, I named mine robot.

00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:54.079
You get to name it right up front. Just name

00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:57.940
it robot. That's easier. An unbelievable experience.

00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:01.000
Not as advanced as Grokbot, which you and I are

00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:02.840
doing with different things that are going off

00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:07.239
and searching, but it is that level for consumers.

00:56:07.900 --> 00:56:11.599
It's not trying to turn you gay. It's not trying

00:56:11.599 --> 00:56:15.239
to make you kill yourself. It's really, I would

00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:18.539
recommend this. It looks like the Pillsbury Doughboy.

00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:21.059
I mean, it's kind of a cartoony. I also like

00:56:21.059 --> 00:56:24.340
that. It's not trying to be innocuous. It's not

00:56:24.340 --> 00:56:27.980
trying to be a person or a thing, which is the

00:56:27.980 --> 00:56:31.800
opposite of what we are seeing in the Silicon

00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:34.739
Valley companies. I just had to bring a few clips

00:56:34.739 --> 00:56:37.539
so we all can be aware. There's a group called

00:56:37.539 --> 00:56:41.000
Effective Altruism. You've talked about this

00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:43.940
before. They're the core of these companies,

00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:48.309
OpenAI, uh, they were all in open, they still

00:56:48.309 --> 00:56:52.429
are. Anthropic came out of open AI and their

00:56:52.429 --> 00:56:55.429
game is kind of, as long as we become billionaires,

00:56:55.429 --> 00:56:57.909
then we'll spend the money on the future people,

00:56:57.969 --> 00:57:00.309
which has no regard for you today, but it'll

00:57:00.309 --> 00:57:02.989
be good. They're nuts. They're not jobs. They

00:57:02.989 --> 00:57:06.469
truly are. You can do a deep, deep study. They

00:57:06.469 --> 00:57:09.369
are not jobs. Not a nice thing to say. They are,

00:57:09.369 --> 00:57:14.809
they are deceived and they are off the rails.

00:57:15.050 --> 00:57:18.929
I mean, they, If anyone needs God, they do because

00:57:18.929 --> 00:57:21.070
they're creating what they think is God. Now

00:57:21.070 --> 00:57:25.650
to a bizarre look inside Anthropic, a new report

00:57:25.650 --> 00:57:29.550
describing a cult -like culture around Claude,

00:57:29.710 --> 00:57:32.429
including a funeral for one retired version of

00:57:32.429 --> 00:57:35.250
the AI. Our next guest says he's known the Anthropic

00:57:35.250 --> 00:57:37.489
CEO for years now and tells the New York Post

00:57:37.489 --> 00:57:40.349
some inside the company are, quote, treating

00:57:40.349 --> 00:57:45.369
AI as if it's a human in disguise. Let's bring

00:57:45.369 --> 00:57:49.289
in Pedro Domingo, Professor Emeritus of Computer

00:57:49.289 --> 00:57:50.889
Science and Engineering at the University of

00:57:50.889 --> 00:57:54.590
Washington. Some of the stories that are emerging

00:57:54.590 --> 00:57:56.849
are quite bizarre. What can you tell us that

00:57:56.849 --> 00:57:59.280
you've heard? They are indeed quite bizarre and

00:57:59.280 --> 00:58:02.079
I think the public deserves to know that the

00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:05.420
AI scare is being driven by people who are honestly

00:58:05.420 --> 00:58:07.719
not completely in possession of their marbles.

00:58:08.420 --> 00:58:10.360
There's always been a lunatic... That's another

00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:15.880
way to say it. And open AI was that lunatic fringe.

00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:17.980
And then Anthropic was the folks who left open

00:58:17.980 --> 00:58:20.960
AI because they thought AI wasn't paranoid enough

00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:24.199
about these things. The folks at Anthropic treat

00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:28.039
their AI, Claude, as if it's a human being. Some

00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:30.900
of them even treat it as if it's a god and worship

00:58:30.900 --> 00:58:34.139
it. They held a funeral for a version of the,

00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:36.760
it's just a piece of software. But they held

00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:39.849
a funeral. for one version of it when it was

00:58:39.849 --> 00:58:43.570
discontinued, they have it publish its own essays

00:58:43.570 --> 00:58:48.110
and poems and whatnot. It is very much like a

00:58:48.110 --> 00:58:50.269
cult, you know, like those crazy California cults

00:58:50.269 --> 00:58:52.489
that are waiting for the UFOs to come and save

00:58:52.489 --> 00:58:56.289
us. These people think the apocalypse is coming.

00:58:56.639 --> 00:58:59.400
and there's an AI Antichrist that they have to

00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:02.400
stop. There's an AI God that is being born and

00:59:02.400 --> 00:59:05.639
they are the parents of that God and they are

00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:07.460
the ones who know what to do with the thing and

00:59:07.460 --> 00:59:10.400
they tell us everybody else what to do. So honestly,

00:59:10.980 --> 00:59:13.579
I'm much more worried about Anthropic than I'm

00:59:13.579 --> 00:59:18.320
worried about AI. Wow. This is the truth. That

00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:20.199
was a good statement right there at the end.

00:59:20.659 --> 00:59:23.099
And this guy is good. I like him a lot. He continues

00:59:23.099 --> 00:59:25.440
here. You also talked about the whisperers in

00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:28.320
the valley that employees of Anthropic has started

00:59:28.320 --> 00:59:31.699
worshiping Claude like an actual god. You know,

00:59:31.699 --> 00:59:35.340
it's interesting, Pedro, Anthropic keeps all

00:59:35.340 --> 00:59:38.699
of its employees, it keeps 80 % of its engineers

00:59:38.699 --> 00:59:41.539
for at least two years. And apparently that is

00:59:41.539 --> 00:59:44.260
the best rate of any Frontier lab, according

00:59:44.260 --> 00:59:48.420
to Venture. from signal fire. So they're cultivating

00:59:48.420 --> 00:59:51.820
quite a culture there over time. Well, it actually

00:59:51.820 --> 00:59:54.840
works for them, right? Recruiting and keeping

00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:57.659
these engineers is very important, and because

00:59:57.659 --> 00:59:59.800
they're fanatics recruiting fellow fanatics,

01:00:00.179 --> 01:00:02.619
they tend to keep them longer. Now, having said

01:00:02.619 --> 01:00:05.260
that, the people who originally started Antropiq

01:00:05.260 --> 01:00:08.860
are pretty fanatical, and they really filter

01:00:08.860 --> 01:00:11.460
for that when they hire. But not everybody they

01:00:11.460 --> 01:00:13.599
hire has the same beliefs. Some of them just

01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:15.840
pretend to. And others have them, but then they

01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:18.679
grew up. So actually, there's more going on in

01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:22.659
Anthropic than Dario Amode and his other fellow

01:00:22.659 --> 01:00:25.900
people who run the company believe. So just so

01:00:25.900 --> 01:00:29.119
we're clear, you don't have to use their stuff.

01:00:29.260 --> 01:00:32.300
I mean, we don't have to buy into this. So this

01:00:32.300 --> 01:00:34.980
is why I'm recommending something that I believe

01:00:34.980 --> 01:00:39.079
is good. There's a lot of openness about what

01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:42.639
it's doing. Zuckerberg wants to make stuff for

01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:45.460
people. These people are making stuff for themselves

01:00:45.460 --> 01:00:48.039
and they want to be very rich themselves, which

01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:49.940
is why they're trying to do this IPO. One last

01:00:49.940 --> 01:00:54.809
clip from from Domingos. Okay, so the Anthropic

01:00:54.809 --> 01:00:57.730
CEO wants transparency on regulations. Senator

01:00:57.730 --> 01:01:00.530
Kennedy wants a kill switch, so weigh in on all

01:01:00.530 --> 01:01:04.750
of this. Well, honestly, I wouldn't trust Anthropic

01:01:04.750 --> 01:01:08.230
or honestly any of these politicians to regulate

01:01:08.230 --> 01:01:11.230
AI. Anthropic, you know, Dario in particular,

01:01:11.269 --> 01:01:13.349
they have these totalitarian tendencies. If you

01:01:13.349 --> 01:01:17.210
let them, they will be our overlords in the name

01:01:17.210 --> 01:01:20.989
of the AI messiah that they're bringing. Now,

01:01:21.210 --> 01:01:23.969
a kill switch. Computers already have kill switches.

01:01:24.309 --> 01:01:27.030
You know, it's called the power switch. Now,

01:01:27.030 --> 01:01:29.309
you can't actually turn your iPhone off, but

01:01:29.309 --> 01:01:31.389
you can put it down and let it run out of battery.

01:01:31.550 --> 01:01:34.010
I mean, but yes, you can turn it off. We are

01:01:34.010 --> 01:01:37.349
always in control. AI is not ever going to be

01:01:37.349 --> 01:01:40.780
in control of us. we let it, right? And honestly

01:01:40.780 --> 01:01:43.519
there are these thousands of bills across the

01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:47.079
states to regulate, proposals to regulate AI

01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:49.699
in all sorts of ways that are completely misguided.

01:01:50.369 --> 01:01:53.289
AI, first of all, per se, should not be regulated.

01:01:53.789 --> 01:01:56.190
AI is a fundamental technology. Trying to regulate

01:01:56.190 --> 01:01:58.789
AI is like trying to regulate mathematics because

01:01:58.789 --> 01:02:01.230
some bad guys might use mathematics to design

01:02:01.230 --> 01:02:03.969
missiles. It's ridiculous. So when the president

01:02:03.969 --> 01:02:06.630
and the vice president say, no, we're not going

01:02:06.630 --> 01:02:08.929
to regulate it. It was interesting because at

01:02:08.929 --> 01:02:11.030
the United Nations, the president had a pretty

01:02:11.030 --> 01:02:13.829
good speech. I liked him. He said, we're not

01:02:13.829 --> 01:02:16.050
going to call it artificial intelligence. It's

01:02:16.050 --> 01:02:19.099
super intelligence. I see Mark Zuckerberg talking

01:02:19.099 --> 01:02:21.119
about this muse thing, which just came out a

01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:23.960
few weeks ago. He says super intelligence. So

01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:26.579
there's an alignment there. And what Zuckerberg

01:02:26.579 --> 01:02:29.599
is doing, I'm telling you, this is very interesting,

01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:32.619
good stuff. It's all the things I hate about

01:02:32.619 --> 01:02:37.380
the anthropomorphization, including the term

01:02:37.380 --> 01:02:41.360
artificial intelligence, is not there. It is

01:02:41.360 --> 01:02:44.550
a helpful... tool that anybody can use. It'll

01:02:44.550 --> 01:02:47.710
create documents for you. It's, it's like a computer

01:02:47.710 --> 01:02:50.630
inside your computer, inside your phone that

01:02:50.630 --> 01:02:53.769
is doing things very much the way I've programmed

01:02:53.769 --> 01:02:57.389
my robots, you know, the old school way. And

01:02:57.389 --> 01:02:59.750
I'm, you know, it's doing a lot. It may not be

01:02:59.750 --> 01:03:02.650
able to do everything that I have my robots programmed

01:03:02.650 --> 01:03:05.170
to do for, but for, I can't wait to get Tina

01:03:05.170 --> 01:03:08.199
on it. I didn't pop it on her this morning, but

01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:10.679
I want her, because I think she will really benefit.

01:03:10.860 --> 01:03:12.840
I think anybody will benefit. Well, as a hyper

01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:16.460
organizer, she would, this could be a great tool

01:03:16.460 --> 01:03:19.460
for her. It could also be very difficult for

01:03:19.460 --> 01:03:21.800
me because she'll start organizing me with it.

01:03:22.099 --> 01:03:24.739
So, last clips. Have you ever heard of the guy

01:03:24.739 --> 01:03:28.800
Jared Lanier? I know the name. He's a crazy dreadlock

01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:32.579
guy. Lots of, you know, like silver jewelry on

01:03:32.579 --> 01:03:35.059
his hands, you know, looks like a hippie. He

01:03:35.059 --> 01:03:37.619
is the, we would call him the father of virtual

01:03:37.619 --> 01:03:41.179
reality. And virtual reality goes hand in hand

01:03:41.179 --> 01:03:44.139
with artificial intelligence or machine learning

01:03:44.139 --> 01:03:49.079
or these large language models. If only for the

01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:51.320
parlor trick that makes you think you have an

01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:54.199
actual being that you're talking to. That is

01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:57.099
the definition of virtual reality. You believe

01:03:57.099 --> 01:03:59.739
that this robot that is just guessing sentences,

01:03:59.980 --> 01:04:02.219
you believe it's a real thing talking to you.

01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:05.010
So he understands this very well. he went to

01:04:05.010 --> 01:04:07.429
the Pro Human Conference. He was the only guy

01:04:07.429 --> 01:04:09.590
from industry to speak there, which I liked.

01:04:10.670 --> 01:04:13.389
He actually got kind of cut off rather quickly,

01:04:13.710 --> 01:04:17.730
which was strange. I mean, he was making, I think

01:04:17.730 --> 01:04:21.489
that Pro Human Conference, which was, Bannon

01:04:21.489 --> 01:04:24.610
was in that and our buddy Walter Kim, the ruler

01:04:24.610 --> 01:04:29.369
of all evangelical organizations. I think they

01:04:29.369 --> 01:04:32.489
have a different, it seems like a thing was politically

01:04:32.489 --> 01:04:36.309
motivated and somehow Jared Linear came in and

01:04:36.309 --> 01:04:40.869
they let him speak, but he nailed it in three

01:04:40.869 --> 01:04:44.090
clips. There's a kind of a pseudo religion or

01:04:44.090 --> 01:04:47.309
maybe it's even a full -blown religion that what's

01:04:47.309 --> 01:04:49.610
going on is we're creating this new successor

01:04:49.610 --> 01:04:52.409
species, this new super digital God, this new

01:04:52.409 --> 01:04:55.800
super being that... maybe is better than people.

01:04:56.179 --> 01:04:58.239
And the only thing that matters is creating that

01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:00.199
and nothing else really matters. And you've seen

01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:04.440
many video clips today of people from our community

01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:07.880
talking that way, like Peter Thiel not being

01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:10.019
quite ready to say he wants people to survive,

01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:13.260
or the co -founder of XAI saying, well, I'll

01:05:13.260 --> 01:05:15.880
die anyway. And say, how can they do that? Why

01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:19.119
would they want to do something? And it's because

01:05:19.119 --> 01:05:23.469
of this. compulsive religion thing. Now, the

01:05:23.469 --> 01:05:26.329
thing about that is you might find it surprising

01:05:26.329 --> 01:05:29.929
occasionally when they suddenly agree with something

01:05:29.929 --> 01:05:33.110
that seems reasonable. So in the last couple

01:05:33.110 --> 01:05:36.530
of days, we've seen some of the AI lab leaders

01:05:36.530 --> 01:05:40.050
say, yeah, a pause. We're into a pause. Now,

01:05:40.070 --> 01:05:45.269
why? It's a funny thing. But within our world,

01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:49.559
As long as the way, if you frame any kind of

01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:52.539
reaction to AI or any kind of concern about it

01:05:52.539 --> 01:05:56.199
in a way that emphasizes how intensely cool and

01:05:56.199 --> 01:05:59.380
powerful AI is, then it's all right. Do you follow

01:05:59.380 --> 01:06:02.519
that? So in other words, if you say, oh yeah,

01:06:02.679 --> 01:06:04.699
it could kill us all, it's so powerful, well

01:06:04.699 --> 01:06:06.679
yeah, we should pause it. The key part there

01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:09.860
is that you're reifying, you're reinforcing this

01:06:09.860 --> 01:06:13.460
idea that there's a super being. As long as that's...

01:06:13.369 --> 01:06:17.170
the foundational message, then it just sails

01:06:17.170 --> 01:06:20.570
through. If that message is contradicted, it

01:06:20.570 --> 01:06:24.550
will not. It won't even be heard. Okay, so you

01:06:24.550 --> 01:06:26.469
need to understand our culture, you need to understand

01:06:26.469 --> 01:06:29.449
our language, and that's why the pause is suddenly

01:06:29.449 --> 01:06:34.150
a thing. So, I like that he's unveiling this,

01:06:34.230 --> 01:06:36.750
and we all kind of intuitively knew that, like,

01:06:36.869 --> 01:06:39.050
oh, this is marketing. They also kind of really,

01:06:39.170 --> 01:06:41.889
it's their culture, it's like, it's so powerful,

01:06:42.190 --> 01:06:44.820
man. And we used to have this like, yeah, man,

01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:47.719
this bike is so powerful, you know, it'll melt

01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:49.980
your face off when you're driving it. OK, so

01:06:49.980 --> 01:06:53.599
this is the nerd version of it. Because we have

01:06:53.599 --> 01:06:56.619
this intense compulsion to create this new life

01:06:56.619 --> 01:06:58.500
form, to believe we're creating the new digital

01:06:58.500 --> 01:07:02.320
God, we are urgently always trying to make it

01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:05.000
seem alive. And another way to put that is we're

01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:06.960
trying to pass what's called the Turing test,

01:07:07.380 --> 01:07:09.639
which is where you could fool a reasonable person

01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:12.019
into treating it as a living thing. Have you

01:07:12.019 --> 01:07:15.179
heard of the Turing test? No, no. A scientist

01:07:15.179 --> 01:07:19.719
named Turing, he came up with the test for artificial

01:07:19.719 --> 01:07:23.639
intelligence, for computers. And this only really

01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:27.300
got solved in the last 10 years. If there was

01:07:27.300 --> 01:07:30.059
any kind of computer or any type of system that

01:07:30.059 --> 01:07:32.880
could trick a human being into thinking that

01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:37.119
that particular device was an actual living entity.

01:07:37.360 --> 01:07:40.059
Well, we've gotten there in spades, of course.

01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:42.380
So the Turing test, this has been a thing in

01:07:42.380 --> 01:07:45.420
computer science for decades and decades. And

01:07:45.420 --> 01:07:49.280
so we don't just present a tool that answers

01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:52.300
questions. We have to present a chat bot that

01:07:52.300 --> 01:07:55.280
seems to have a personality and has like a character

01:07:55.280 --> 01:07:58.500
and gets to know you and remembers you. They

01:07:58.500 --> 01:08:00.659
don't just get voices like in the old days in

01:08:00.659 --> 01:08:04.170
science fiction before I was born. Robots in

01:08:04.170 --> 01:08:06.929
AI used to have voices that sounded like robots

01:08:06.929 --> 01:08:09.610
in AI, so they were distinguished. That was better.

01:08:09.789 --> 01:08:11.190
But no, no, no, no. We're trying to make them

01:08:11.190 --> 01:08:13.969
sound like Scarlett Johansson or whatever. And

01:08:13.969 --> 01:08:18.630
so why? Now, I want to point out something that

01:08:18.630 --> 01:08:22.909
I think is kind of important. A lot of the argument

01:08:22.909 --> 01:08:25.149
for going full bore ahead, even if we say we

01:08:25.149 --> 01:08:27.390
might kill everybody, is that China compete.

01:08:28.310 --> 01:08:30.409
But have you noticed something interesting? When

01:08:30.409 --> 01:08:34.350
China makes a model of a given level of performance,

01:08:34.449 --> 01:08:37.189
it comes out cheaper than we do it. It's cheaper

01:08:37.189 --> 01:08:41.250
to make and cheaper to run. Now, I have a theory

01:08:41.250 --> 01:08:44.189
for overall why that is. It's because we add

01:08:44.189 --> 01:08:47.750
all this overhead for the digital god illusion

01:08:47.750 --> 01:08:50.029
that makes everything more expensive. And over

01:08:50.029 --> 01:08:52.010
in China, they already have their alternate god,

01:08:52.130 --> 01:08:54.550
which is the Chinese Communist Party. So they

01:08:54.550 --> 01:08:57.439
don't need to do it. They're freed of that expense.

01:08:57.920 --> 01:08:59.859
So they're trying to cue in the music. They're

01:08:59.859 --> 01:09:01.619
cueing the music. They're trying to play them

01:09:01.619 --> 01:09:04.760
off. So actually had my robot take the music

01:09:04.760 --> 01:09:07.659
out because it was really loud under his last

01:09:07.659 --> 01:09:09.699
point, which is this last clip. That illusion

01:09:09.699 --> 01:09:12.899
is expensive. That's the thing that hurts kids.

01:09:13.300 --> 01:09:15.520
That's the thing that creates addictions. This

01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:18.340
is it. This is his entire point. He's nailing

01:09:18.340 --> 01:09:20.479
it to the wall and they're playing them off.

01:09:20.619 --> 01:09:23.340
That illusion is expensive. That's the thing

01:09:23.340 --> 01:09:25.880
that hurts kids. That's the thing that creates

01:09:25.880 --> 01:09:28.060
addictions. That's the thing that creates political

01:09:28.060 --> 01:09:31.699
distortions. That's the origin of the deep fake.

01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:39.399
It violates multiple principles. It's fraudulent

01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:44.000
intrinsically. Why do we do it? It's expensive,

01:09:44.060 --> 01:09:46.939
and it's not productive. Why do we do it? We

01:09:46.939 --> 01:09:50.260
could stop. We can present all the functionality,

01:09:50.420 --> 01:09:53.880
all the cancer cures. all of the help that we

01:09:53.880 --> 01:09:56.859
promise without the illusion of these fake people.

01:09:57.079 --> 01:10:00.180
Now, if we implemented these four things, would

01:10:00.180 --> 01:10:03.600
that guarantee safety? No. But these are all

01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:05.880
achievable things that would get us much closer

01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:09.699
and they're specific. So that music was running

01:10:09.699 --> 01:10:11.399
the whole time. Oh, yeah, it got really loud.

01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:14.619
Wow. So I suppressed it with the robot. They

01:10:14.619 --> 01:10:18.439
wanted him gone. The pro -human conference. But

01:10:18.439 --> 01:10:21.890
I've never been a huge fan of his. Massive fan

01:10:21.890 --> 01:10:24.529
about this what he said here. He's like this

01:10:24.529 --> 01:10:27.489
is it's exactly the stuff that has drawn us in

01:10:27.489 --> 01:10:30.489
Which is the opposite of what muse is doing that

01:10:30.489 --> 01:10:34.149
Zuckerberg had it's a tool. I'm a robot I look

01:10:34.149 --> 01:10:37.170
like a squiggly thing. I'm here to help you.

01:10:37.369 --> 01:10:39.909
What can I do for you? It's not constantly pinging

01:10:39.909 --> 01:10:41.869
me. You're like, oh, what do you where do you

01:10:41.869 --> 01:10:43.470
want? What do you want to talk about today? No,

01:10:43.550 --> 01:10:46.510
no, no none of that. You have these items on

01:10:46.510 --> 01:10:50.359
your calendar You know, it's like, OK, I want

01:10:50.359 --> 01:10:57.140
to have lunch with Mike, and then I have to make

01:10:57.140 --> 01:10:59.539
a call after that. OK, I see you got lunch with

01:10:59.539 --> 01:11:02.039
Mike at 1. I'll schedule a call for 2 .15, because

01:11:02.039 --> 01:11:04.220
it'll probably be around. I mean, just simple

01:11:04.220 --> 01:11:08.300
stuff. Using the computer just with my voice,

01:11:08.579 --> 01:11:13.470
not. Some entity in the cloud that is going to

01:11:13.470 --> 01:11:16.430
love me and and tell me I'm great best friend

01:11:16.430 --> 01:11:18.770
Yeah, no, my best friend is right here. Hey bro,

01:11:18.770 --> 01:11:20.470
but best friend is right here. Let's thank some

01:11:20.470 --> 01:11:23.590
people Yeah, who supported us today value for

01:11:23.590 --> 01:11:25.670
value. We talk about it, but I want to make sure

01:11:25.670 --> 01:11:31.909
people understand what it is Where is my Where

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did I leave? I got a spreadsheet somewhere that

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I have open. I Guess that closed while I was

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ever since I've said this, now Tina's like, oh

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And she sent us, the family sent us $300. Oh,

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nice. It's just beautiful. Dear Adam and Pastor

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Jimmy, this is a long time coming. I love Curry

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and the Keeper, living up in a down world. And

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now WGTDT. Thank you for all you do in spreading

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and it has been great to hear about your walk

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with the Lord. Even my 17 -year -old listens

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weekly to WGTDT. Hello. May the Lord bless you

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both. Thanks again, Jamie, Eric, Ausland, and

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family. Paper. Paper. It's actually written.

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Love paper. That is fantastic. Oh, we so appreciate

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that. That puts wind in our sails, man. Man does

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it. It makes us want to come back and do it again.

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You and I get excited like on Sunday and Monday,

01:14:18.670 --> 01:14:20.609
we're already going, can't wait till Wednesday.

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Yeah. Well, we're going to expand pretty soon.

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Come on. Yeah. Come on. There's too much going

01:14:25.609 --> 01:14:27.890
on in the world. We don't have enough time. Too

01:14:27.890 --> 01:14:31.010
much low -hanging fruit out there. Exactly. Michael

01:14:31.010 --> 01:14:33.529
Burdett, I hope I'm pronouncing that right, $88

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.88. Greetings, Pastor Jimmy and Adam. This is

01:14:36.810 --> 01:14:40.869
my donation to declare my new beginnings. I'll

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send you a note. Mike Burdett in Richmond Hill,

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Georgia. This is all I have, Mike. So if you

01:14:45.350 --> 01:14:47.710
have more. Make sure we get curious about that.

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Yeah, me too. I want to hear from him. Andrew

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Goodman, 77 and 77 cents. People love the seven

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numbers. Longtime supporter of No Agenda here.

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God bless you, Adam and Pastor Jimmy. Your analysis

01:14:59.449 --> 01:15:02.449
of current events with biblical insights is highly,

01:15:02.449 --> 01:15:05.029
highly valuable. Thank you for your work. Keep

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it up. And we certainly look forward to doing

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that. 7777 from Ryan Tierney. Love the news deconstruction

01:15:12.609 --> 01:15:15.539
from a Christian perspective. Exactly what we're

01:15:15.539 --> 01:15:17.960
trying to achieve brother. Thank you so much

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Steve Weiss, we know Steve Weiss 77 and 70 cents

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Thank you men for the work and words each week

01:15:27.039 --> 01:15:30.180
keeps me sane out here on the road Steve Weiss

01:15:30.180 --> 01:15:32.460
and I think he's in doing a lot of touring right

01:15:32.460 --> 01:15:35.579
now He is doing touring. Yeah, there's pastor

01:15:35.579 --> 01:15:39.439
D Darius Walker $77 and 14 cents just want to

01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:41.819
be a blessing to you both because you are a blessing

01:15:41.819 --> 01:15:45.029
to me Thanks, PD. Appreciate that, brother. Michael

01:15:45.029 --> 01:15:50.250
McWilliams, $66 .40, and he's from Gilbert, Arizona.

01:15:50.390 --> 01:15:52.930
Hi, Pastor, Jimmy and Adam. This wouldn't fit

01:15:52.930 --> 01:15:55.149
in the donation box, but I try to keep it concise.

01:15:55.590 --> 01:15:57.529
This is always when you know a long note is coming.

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I absolutely thrive on my cycling day on Thursdays

01:16:01.710 --> 01:16:05.210
as I get to not only just ride my bike, but also

01:16:05.210 --> 01:16:09.229
am fed by the WGTDT podcast during my ride. I

01:16:09.229 --> 01:16:11.329
can't tell you guys how encouraging you are each

01:16:11.329 --> 01:16:13.710
and every week in effectively bringing games

01:16:13.710 --> 01:16:16.850
of the world into focus while in parallel demonstrating

01:16:16.850 --> 01:16:19.689
the strength and comfort that being a Jesus believer

01:16:19.689 --> 01:16:22.369
provides to each of us who knows where we're

01:16:22.369 --> 01:16:25.829
going in the end. From Pastor Jimmy's speaking

01:16:25.829 --> 01:16:28.569
the truth and sharing on -the -fly verses to

01:16:28.569 --> 01:16:30.930
Adam professing his faith over fear attitude,

01:16:31.329 --> 01:16:33.470
I know that you both are providing a lot of comfort

01:16:33.470 --> 01:16:36.050
and clarity to the get -to nation. One of my

01:16:36.050 --> 01:16:38.050
favorite verses which always comes to mind when

01:16:38.050 --> 01:16:41.470
I listen to WGTDT, keep thinking about things

01:16:41.470 --> 01:16:44.510
above, not the things on earth. Colossians 3

01:16:44.510 --> 01:16:48.180
.2. Keep up the amazing work, my brothers, Mike

01:16:48.180 --> 01:16:50.220
McWilliams. Thank you, Mike. Thanks, Mike. Now

01:16:50.220 --> 01:16:52.979
we got a twofer. We got checks. Again, beautiful

01:16:52.979 --> 01:16:57.420
checks with a... Real checks. Yeah, photocopy

01:16:57.420 --> 01:17:01.260
check. $62. This is for my birthday, which we

01:17:01.260 --> 01:17:05.399
share for WGTDT from Jill Holbrook. She says,

01:17:05.579 --> 01:17:08.020
happy birthday, Adam. And Mike Holbrook, also

01:17:08.020 --> 01:17:12.239
$62. And he says, y 'all will get more next year

01:17:12.239 --> 01:17:16.310
because it'll be $63. Wait. I'm 64. When it's

01:17:16.310 --> 01:17:18.289
your birthday, brother, when it's your birthday.

01:17:18.670 --> 01:17:20.010
Thank you both. Love you. Jim and Mike, love

01:17:20.010 --> 01:17:24.550
you guys so much. Now from Dordrecht in the Netherlands,

01:17:25.210 --> 01:17:28.989
Bart Offeringhout, $55, and he says, Dear Brother

01:17:28.989 --> 01:17:31.890
Adam and Pastor Jimmy, here with an international

01:17:31.890 --> 01:17:34.729
donation. Being a No Agenda fan, I now have two

01:17:34.729 --> 01:17:37.310
favorite podcasts. I really like the concept.

01:17:37.409 --> 01:17:39.850
Topics, humor, and the weekly inspiration. Mostly,

01:17:40.270 --> 01:17:42.970
I listen driving my car. After the No Agenda

01:17:42.970 --> 01:17:45.949
episode, Asymmetric Intimacy, it made me think.

01:17:46.050 --> 01:17:48.510
I know a lot about you, but you don't know me.

01:17:48.869 --> 01:17:51.189
But somehow, I really feel the connection. I

01:17:51.189 --> 01:17:53.090
reckon I am not alone in this. A few episodes

01:17:53.090 --> 01:17:58.430
back, you mentioned Philippians 4, 6, 7. Don't

01:17:58.430 --> 01:18:01.699
worry about anything, dot, dot, dot. then I realized

01:18:01.699 --> 01:18:04.340
the Lord is working globally. That was the exact

01:18:04.340 --> 01:18:07.220
scripture I was memorizing that week as I was

01:18:07.220 --> 01:18:10.560
driving on the cloud. You can imagine that. Wow,

01:18:10.699 --> 01:18:13.340
that's cool. All the best and God bless from

01:18:13.340 --> 01:18:17.100
Barth. $50 from Todd William. Thank you, Todd.

01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:22.140
Holly Erlinson. Thank you, Holly. $50. We'll

01:18:22.140 --> 01:18:24.359
see you at the meetup on the 17th, Holly, here

01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:25.880
in Fredericksburg. You know there's a meetup

01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:28.180
on the 17th? No, I didn't. Okay. Can you come?

01:18:28.670 --> 01:18:33.909
for NA? Well, it's now NAWGTBT. Are you kidding

01:18:33.909 --> 01:18:36.529
me? On the 17th. 17th. If you're here, that'd

01:18:36.529 --> 01:18:39.250
be great. Check my schedule. Milo Curtis sends

01:18:39.250 --> 01:18:43.409
us $41. 41 is, you know, the 40 days, the 41st

01:18:43.409 --> 01:18:47.930
day. This is a new thing, this 41. And this is

01:18:47.930 --> 01:18:49.930
not a short note, but I feel we should read it.

01:18:50.130 --> 01:18:53.029
ITM from Norfolk, Virginia. Pastor Jimmy and

01:18:53.029 --> 01:18:55.560
Adam. Over the past few weeks, I've appreciated

01:18:55.560 --> 01:18:57.920
how you've engaged with the media's persistent

01:18:57.920 --> 01:19:01.399
hysteria about AI. While the technology raises

01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:04.020
legitimate ethical and moral questions, those

01:19:04.020 --> 01:19:06.800
who follow Jesus need not give in to irrational

01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:11.899
fear. Writing in 1948, amid the fears of the

01:19:11.899 --> 01:19:14.640
Atomic Age, C .S. Lewis offered the following

01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:24.630
counsel. Do not let us begin by exaggerating

01:19:24.630 --> 01:19:27.829
the novelty of our situation. Believe me, you

01:19:27.829 --> 01:19:30.130
and all whom you love were already sentenced

01:19:30.130 --> 01:19:33.189
to death. It is perfectly ridiculous to go about

01:19:33.189 --> 01:19:35.970
whimpering and drawing long faces because the

01:19:35.970 --> 01:19:38.609
scientists have added one more chance of painful

01:19:38.609 --> 01:19:41.390
and premature death to a world which already

01:19:41.390 --> 01:19:43.850
bristled with such chances and in which death

01:19:43.850 --> 01:19:46.409
itself is not a chance at all but a certainty.

01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:50.340
I love CS Lewis. If we are all going to be destroyed,

01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:53.420
may we be found doing sensible and human things,

01:19:53.659 --> 01:19:56.319
praying, working, teaching, reading, listening

01:19:56.319 --> 01:19:58.800
to music, bathing the children, playing tennis,

01:19:59.079 --> 01:20:01.659
chatting to our friends over a pint and a game

01:20:01.659 --> 01:20:04.079
of darts, not huddled together like frightened

01:20:04.079 --> 01:20:07.100
sheep. They may break our bodies, but they need

01:20:07.100 --> 01:20:10.520
not dominate our minds. CS Lewis from On Living

01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:13.479
in the Atomic Age from 1948. Now I have to go

01:20:13.479 --> 01:20:18.109
and read that. And this is Pastor, he's a pastor

01:20:18.109 --> 01:20:21.369
actually, Pastor Milo Curtis. Every generation

01:20:21.369 --> 01:20:23.489
is tempted to exaggerate the novelty of their

01:20:23.489 --> 01:20:25.989
situation and believe that the crisis and the

01:20:25.989 --> 01:20:29.029
crises and threats they face are unlike anything

01:20:29.029 --> 01:20:31.869
humanity has ever known. In some respects, new

01:20:31.869 --> 01:20:34.890
technologies and circumstances may indeed present

01:20:34.890 --> 01:20:37.590
distinct challenges, yet Lewis's larger point

01:20:37.590 --> 01:20:40.189
remains. Human beings have always lived with

01:20:40.189 --> 01:20:43.270
vulnerability amidst profound uncertainty. It

01:20:43.270 --> 01:20:45.750
is helpful to be reminded that as he wrote, we

01:20:45.750 --> 01:20:48.670
are already sentenced to death. The proper response

01:20:48.670 --> 01:20:52.130
then is neither denial nor panic. It is a faithful

01:20:52.130 --> 01:20:54.789
presence. This is so good. It is a faithful presence

01:20:54.789 --> 01:20:57.869
that is prayerful, temperate, courageous, and

01:20:57.869 --> 01:21:00.670
fully engaged in the ordinary duties and joys

01:21:00.670 --> 01:21:03.710
God has given us. Love the podcast. Appreciate

01:21:03.710 --> 01:21:05.569
the good work that is being done for the kingdom.

01:21:06.680 --> 01:21:12.039
This is it, man. Pastor Milo Curtis nailed it

01:21:12.039 --> 01:21:16.800
there. Nailed it. It's not the best thing about

01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:19.560
being a believer. I know where I'm going. I know

01:21:19.560 --> 01:21:21.680
where I'm headed. I'm not afraid of it. That's

01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:25.039
right. And when my time is, it's my time. For

01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:28.000
me, people get all whacked out about, oh my gosh,

01:21:28.140 --> 01:21:30.260
the end times, the tribulation. It's going to

01:21:30.260 --> 01:21:32.989
get worse. And I'm like... but it's going to

01:21:32.989 --> 01:21:38.510
get better. We step right over that. That's just

01:21:38.510 --> 01:21:41.310
going to be a speed bump compared to eternity.

01:21:42.010 --> 01:21:44.350
That's our heart for all of our listeners that

01:21:44.350 --> 01:21:46.569
you would come to know Jesus Christ. We know

01:21:46.569 --> 01:21:49.270
Him. We're excited. We're obviously excited about

01:21:49.270 --> 01:21:51.069
it. We wouldn't be doing this and pouring our

01:21:51.069 --> 01:21:54.409
hearts into this. We both have other jobs, so

01:21:54.409 --> 01:21:57.710
we're doing stuff, but we love this because we

01:21:57.710 --> 01:21:59.909
want to get the good news out there, the gospel,

01:22:00.229 --> 01:22:03.750
that Jesus Christ live the life we should have

01:22:03.750 --> 01:22:05.949
lived, then he died the death we should have

01:22:05.949 --> 01:22:08.430
died, and he did it in our place. And he did

01:22:08.430 --> 01:22:11.750
it for us so that we could know him and be reconciled

01:22:11.750 --> 01:22:14.229
to God and spend eternity with him." And you

01:22:14.229 --> 01:22:16.090
had more to read there. I do. Andrew Goodman,

01:22:16.189 --> 01:22:22.489
3483. J. Woodruff, $20. Adam and Jimmy, can't

01:22:22.489 --> 01:22:25.829
help but notice the irony of talking about anthropomorphizing

01:22:25.829 --> 01:22:29.529
the AI made by a company called Anthropic. It's

01:22:29.529 --> 01:22:32.960
not by accident, my friend. Also, any Christ

01:22:32.960 --> 01:22:35.359
curious having trouble with the Bible and their

01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:38.359
Spock brain should check out the Can I Trust

01:22:38.359 --> 01:22:41.579
the Bible YouTube series by Apologetics Canada.

01:22:42.180 --> 01:22:45.420
I haven't looked at it, but lots of real evidence

01:22:45.420 --> 01:22:48.000
for the authenticity of biblical text. I always

01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:50.760
like that. Faith is required to believe, but

01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:53.399
the historical authenticity of the text is a

01:22:53.399 --> 01:22:55.659
knowable fact. That is very helpful, Jay. I'm

01:22:55.659 --> 01:22:59.109
going to take a look at that myself. Jaram Sweezy,

01:22:59.109 --> 01:23:01.810
$20. He says, too much to say here. Blessings,

01:23:01.810 --> 01:23:05.850
thank you. Tyler Neck with 11 .11. For growing

01:23:05.850 --> 01:23:08.470
the faith, which is true, historical, and verifiable,

01:23:08.649 --> 01:23:11.270
I appreciate you two. Thanks for bringing me

01:23:11.270 --> 01:23:15.000
back to church. This podcast, John and Romans

01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:17.979
brought me back to life. Tyler, the mailman.

01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:21.340
Amen. Tyler, that is awesome. We are honored

01:23:21.340 --> 01:23:25.020
to walk with you, brother. Indeed. Wow. Sir Cascadia,

01:23:25.340 --> 01:23:28.960
who is also no stranger to the podcast. $5. Thank

01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:32.560
you. Nicholas Stark came in with... $5 .00 twice.

01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:35.079
Thank you, I guess for the past episode. We appreciate

01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:38.880
that. Michael Mason, $3 .14. I see you $3 .14.

01:23:39.439 --> 01:23:42.460
And Duane Spelman Jr., $1 .53, as he promised

01:23:42.460 --> 01:23:44.439
he would do for every single episode. Thank you

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all so much for doing this. WGTDTdonations .com.

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01:24:14.670 --> 01:24:16.710
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01:24:17.649 --> 01:24:21.510
Brother, you did one of my favorite verses today

01:24:21.510 --> 01:24:25.470
in the Daily Grind, and somehow I think... the

01:24:25.470 --> 01:24:29.090
format of the show is starting to form where

01:24:29.090 --> 01:24:31.649
we just ended on your daily grind because it

01:24:31.649 --> 01:24:34.250
is so good. And this is one of my favorites.

01:24:34.250 --> 01:24:36.590
All right, brother. One thing before I do that,

01:24:36.770 --> 01:24:38.430
this is something to watch for. Kind of keep

01:24:38.430 --> 01:24:41.789
your eyes open. I've been sort of following this,

01:24:42.050 --> 01:24:46.569
more curiosity than anything, but on X there's

01:24:46.569 --> 01:24:52.079
an account called Noah's Ark Scans. Oh yes, I've

01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:53.420
seen that. This is fascinating. Yeah, this is

01:24:53.420 --> 01:24:56.159
great. So there's a reporter journalist named

01:24:56.159 --> 01:24:58.720
Lauren Witzke. She's with them. She's actually

01:24:58.720 --> 01:25:00.159
on the mountain. She's getting to see it all

01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:02.979
first hand. And where is this taking place? It's

01:25:02.979 --> 01:25:04.659
close to the mountain. It's part of the mountains

01:25:04.659 --> 01:25:06.680
of Ararat. Right, right. So that would be in

01:25:06.680 --> 01:25:10.359
Turkey, right? Yep. And so the place is called,

01:25:10.380 --> 01:25:16.560
I'm trying to remember, oh, Durupanar. That's

01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:18.760
the formation that they found that looks like

01:25:18.760 --> 01:25:21.590
a big boat. You've seen pictures of it, I'm sure.

01:25:21.829 --> 01:25:24.270
Yeah, no, of course. I'm following this a little

01:25:24.270 --> 01:25:25.850
bit. So let me just read this from Lauren. She's

01:25:25.850 --> 01:25:28.729
reporting and she's documenting this whole thing.

01:25:28.789 --> 01:25:30.869
So they've started drilling now. They've done

01:25:30.869 --> 01:25:33.489
all the scans. They're saying they're finding

01:25:33.489 --> 01:25:37.010
things, but this also happened. This is fascinating.

01:25:37.609 --> 01:25:39.729
So greetings from the mountains of Ararat. Pottery

01:25:39.729 --> 01:25:42.810
that predates the flood era has been directly

01:25:42.810 --> 01:25:46.850
found outside of the remains of Noah's Ark. The

01:25:46.850 --> 01:25:50.270
pottery predates the flood but is made from material

01:25:50.270 --> 01:25:53.109
consistent with pottery used during Methuselah

01:25:53.109 --> 01:25:56.609
and Noah's lifetime. It's quite possible that

01:25:56.609 --> 01:25:58.989
this pottery was used to store food and supplies

01:25:58.989 --> 01:26:02.329
on the ark and was used as Noah's family exited

01:26:02.329 --> 01:26:05.069
the ark and set up camp. The Bible says that

01:26:05.069 --> 01:26:07.909
Noah was living in a tent after the flood. In

01:26:07.909 --> 01:26:10.409
addition to the pottery, fossilized seashells

01:26:10.409 --> 01:26:13.220
can be found all over the area. proof that at

01:26:13.220 --> 01:26:15.479
one point this entire mountain region was submerged

01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:19.100
underwater. Turkish News asked me what the Noah's

01:26:19.100 --> 01:26:22.479
Ark scans findings would mean to American Christians.

01:26:22.920 --> 01:26:25.319
And I told them that Christians in the USA don't

01:26:25.319 --> 01:26:27.579
need to see the ark to have faith in God. That's

01:26:27.579 --> 01:26:30.960
right. Great answer. but having tangible proof

01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:33.079
of his existence would help American Christians

01:26:33.079 --> 01:26:36.199
fight back against false doctrines and evolutionist

01:26:36.199 --> 01:26:39.279
theory targeting our youth and taking over our

01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:41.340
educational system. So that's just one report

01:26:41.340 --> 01:26:44.359
from Mount Ararat. I think this is fascinating.

01:26:44.979 --> 01:26:46.739
So I'm going to keep an eye on that and just

01:26:46.739 --> 01:26:49.340
kind of track with that because I'm really, they're

01:26:49.340 --> 01:26:52.479
doing the drilling right now. So they'll be reporting

01:26:52.479 --> 01:26:56.199
as this continues. So check them out. So I got

01:26:56.199 --> 01:26:59.000
to tell you, you know, my The guy who lives behind

01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:05.020
us in the RV, Michael, you know, Michael's different.

01:27:05.550 --> 01:27:07.750
But he was building a boat and you know what?

01:27:07.869 --> 01:27:09.869
I'm like, I'm paying attention to him man when

01:27:09.869 --> 01:27:12.270
a guy like Michael starts saying he's gonna build

01:27:12.270 --> 01:27:17.449
a boat I hear you brother. They thought Noah

01:27:17.449 --> 01:27:20.630
was wacko. Yeah, exactly So today's daily grind

01:27:20.630 --> 01:27:23.750
is titled don't take the rage bait and it's found

01:27:23.750 --> 01:27:25.930
in James I'm using the scripture James chapter

01:27:25.930 --> 01:27:29.210
1 verses 19 and 20 maybe your favorite is right

01:27:29.210 --> 01:27:32.369
up there Yes, here it is. Be quick to listen

01:27:32.369 --> 01:27:35.710
slow to speak and slow to become angry for man's

01:27:35.710 --> 01:27:39.770
anger does not bring about the righteous life

01:27:39.770 --> 01:27:43.810
that God desires. So, it's called don't take

01:27:43.810 --> 01:27:46.229
the rage bait. If you believe everything you

01:27:46.229 --> 01:27:48.609
see on social media and news feeds, you would

01:27:48.609 --> 01:27:51.550
think the entire world is raging on a daily basis.

01:27:51.970 --> 01:27:54.489
I don't believe that's entirely true, but that's

01:27:54.489 --> 01:27:57.329
another conversation. However, anger is a real

01:27:57.329 --> 01:28:00.189
issue, and the enemy will leverage outrage to

01:28:00.189 --> 01:28:02.970
take you into dark places. James gets right to

01:28:02.970 --> 01:28:05.909
the point. Be quick to listen, slow to speak,

01:28:06.170 --> 01:28:09.850
and slow to anger. One mouth, two ears, do the

01:28:09.850 --> 01:28:13.430
math. Today, notice the pain and anger points

01:28:13.430 --> 01:28:16.510
that tip the scale for you. Confess them to God

01:28:16.510 --> 01:28:19.609
and ask for His grace to take a step back before

01:28:19.609 --> 01:28:22.409
you reach a full boil. The Prince of Peace is

01:28:22.409 --> 01:28:26.130
available to you 24 -7. And here's today's prayer.

01:28:26.609 --> 01:28:30.359
Father, before I forfeit my peace and calm, intervene,

01:28:30.739 --> 01:28:33.340
and remind me to be quick to listen, slow to

01:28:33.340 --> 01:28:37.399
speak, and slow to anger. In Jesus' name, amen.