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Father, we honor you today. What a joy, what

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a privilege it is to be here sitting at these

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microphones, sitting across the table, doing

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life together and just saying out loud, we get

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to do this. Thank you for your goodness. Thank

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you for your mercy and your grace. Thank you

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for the love that you show us. And thank you

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for how you give us a reason to get up on a Tuesday

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morning, a Wednesday morning, a Thursday morning

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because we have a mission and you've given us

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purpose. I pray for our listeners today that

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they would find themselves inspired and encouraged

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today, and that they too would be able to say,

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whatever they're facing in life, I get to do

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this. And we say this and pray this in the name

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of Jesus. Amen. Amen. It's Wednesday, August

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26, 2026. We get to do this. This is episode

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number 47. We get to do this. A little harmony

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there by you, Pastor Jimmy Pruitt. If it was

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harmony, it was accidental. You know, I always

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tell Tina, I said, when you sing a song... It's

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perfect harmony. It's completely wrong when you're

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singing it by yourself, but if you just sing

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along with the song, it's unbelievable. I don't

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know how she does it. Does she not believe you

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when you say that? I mean, does she go along

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with that? Well, it's worse. She thinks she's

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singing everything perfectly. No. Oh, OK. That's

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an American Idol moment, audition moment. She

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knows lyrics. She knows lyrics, I'll tell you

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that. No, she has uncanny ability to sing perfect

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harmony. Hey, brother. Cheers, brother. Come

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on, man. Plank the cups. Yes. I've got Black

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Rifle, I've got Laird's, Laird's coffee. I've

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done many podcasts in my life, arguably one of

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the first. This is the first podcast I've ever

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had a business card for. Brother, I'm holding

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your business card in my hand. It's amazing.

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You know what I love about this? Annette saw

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it today and she was like, oh. Who chose those

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colors? That looks amazing. I said, well, I did,

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of course. Yeah, you did. I wanted something

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black, but I love the QR code. There's the key.

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Nobody keeps a card. No, of course not. Scan

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it, toss it. Scan it, toss it. That's the beauty

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of it. That's exactly right. I love it, man.

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That's yours right there. Thank you. We're going

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to a conference mid -September. We are. Christianity

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and Culture. Culture and Christianity is what

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it's called, and it's in Murfreesboro, Tennessee

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to Nashville. Pastor Alan Jackson's church. It's

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got a great lineup of speakers, and it'll be

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great. I mean, we'll be able to just, man, do

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life, hang out, and learn, and just sit under

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the water hose. That's why I said, we need business

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cards. We need people to hear about us. Now,

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at this conference, it's not like a bunch of

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vendors showing up. No, but I want to give one

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to Pastor Alan Jackson. Good luck with that.

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Good luck getting to him. That guy, he'll be

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way down off in the distance. Yeah, I hear you.

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Josh, what a great church and a great pastor.

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I just love having business cards. That's just

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so cool. I do too. It's cool. It makes it feel

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official. Big good morning, everybody, to Get2Nation.

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Yeah, come on. All those doers out there. All

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the doers here. Come on. Everyone who's decloaking.

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Like we saw you, we saw you decloak right in

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front of our eyes and all the Christ curious.

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Come on, man. And they are here and there's so

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many reasons for it. I heard you with Pastor

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Brian yesterday on living up in a down world.

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And you're so right. I think it's not even that

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people are coming. into their faith, they were

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probably already there, they grew up with it,

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and they're all looking for something, and everything

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else has failed. And we'll get into that. But

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first, I want to thank you as my friend and as

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my pastor, which is an interesting role. Because

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I see you as my friend, and we talk to each other

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as friends, but sometimes you'll slip in a little

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bit of Pastor Jay there. I try to give a warning

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when I do that. I've been a little bit in the

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storm. Did you send me a scripture about that,

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or were you thinking of one? Well, I did a DG

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about that, and it had to do with that. Pull

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it up real quick, just so you'll have the scripture

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right in front of you, unless you have it there.

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I don't, actually. No, I don't. And I called

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it firm in the storm, but I love the scripture.

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Hebrews chapter 10 verse 23, let us hold unswervingly

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to the hope we profess, for he who promised is

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faithful." And that was very helpful to me. Good.

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Because I think it was a while back, maybe two

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years ago, there was a clip of Joe Rogan, we'll

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talk about a lot of clips today, clips in general,

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and it was Joe Rogan saying, if only there was

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like an owner's manual to life, and all the comments

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were like, who's going to tell Joe? And I have

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personally found, and I think most believers,

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that the Bible, it is the Word, it is the truth,

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and every single time I can go back and find

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the truth and, you know, history just repeats

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over and over and over again. The cycles probably

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keep getting shorter and people's memories even

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shorter. There's a Bible verse for that. Which

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one is that? The book of Ecclesiastes says there

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is literally nothing new under the sun. Right,

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right. So, I was struggling with some things.

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I'm gonna have to go into too much detail. What

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I said to you, I said, you know, the word tells

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me that I need to care for orphans and widows

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and their distress and refusing to let the world

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corrupt me. Now that's 1 James 27. I mean, it

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goes all the way back to Genesis, you know, words

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about widows and orphans. And you said something

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very interesting to me. You said, well, in the

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first century, it was a very different deal for

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widows and for orphans. And that was tremendously

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helpful. But it immediately gave me questions.

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And I'll tell you how it went in my mind, because

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very often the Second Amendment of the United

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States of America is discredited by people who

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say, well, when they wrote that, they had canons

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and muskets, not, you know, AR -15s. And so if

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you take the Constitution strictly at its word,

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it's like it doesn't really matter what that

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is. Can we? Should we? Is it an option to look

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at Scripture in the first century versus the

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21st century? Does it apply everywhere? I mean,

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do you understand my question? Absolutely, because

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this is where we're trying to make something

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that was written centuries ago. Yeah. relevant

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to a totally different place, time, and context.

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So when you read scripture, you always want to

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read it from two perspectives. You always want

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to make sure... I love, context is king. Let

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me just use that. I want to use a phrase that'll

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help us remember this. Context is king. So primarily,

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whenever I read a scripture, for example, I used

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Isaiah today, and we'll talk about this particular

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scripture in a moment, Isaiah 8 -12. Now, I read

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the scripture at face value, right? What does

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it say to me today? But I also realize and understand

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this is in the Old Testament under the Old Covenant.

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I want to find out what it meant to Isaiah in

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his day. So I did some background scripture study

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because I want to know the context of that. Can

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I read the whole Isaiah 8 -12? Absolutely. And

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I love this. This is one of my favorite scriptures

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because in almost every Translation it uses the

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word conspiracy. It sure does conspiracy from

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the root word conspire to breathe to breathe

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together Don't call everything a conspiracy like

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they do and don't live in dread of what frightens

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them Whoa Yeah, I mean hello. That sounds pretty

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relevant to me. Also. I like I like Reading the

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there's a whole in my Bible is a whole block.

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It goes from 11 to 17, right? And I'll just read

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the whole block There's just context that's exactly

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man. We're gonna be talking about that today

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So we start with 11 the Lord has given me a strong

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warning not to think like everyone else does

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he said he said Don't call everything a conspiracy

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like they do and don't live in dread of what

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frightens them. Make the Lord of heaven's armies

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holy in your life. He is the one you should fear.

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In this case, not, oh, I'm afraid, but I revere

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him as we speak about a God -fearing man. He

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is the one who should make you tremble. He will

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keep you safe. But to Israel and Judah, He will

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be a stone that makes people stumble, a rock

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that makes them fall, and for the people of Jerusalem

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He will be a trap and a snare. Many will stumble

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and fall, never to rise again. They will be snared

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and captured. Preserve the teaching of God, entrust

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His instructions to those who follow Me. I will

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wait for the Lord who has turned away from the

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descendants of Jacob, I will put my hope in him."

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So that's the whole, and it's literally indentated,

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indented. It has a block around it in my Bible.

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So I like the context of all of that. That's

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critical to understanding it. So you read it

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at face value, but you want to know what it said

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then. What did it mean to the people then? And

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now what is it saying to me today? Because the

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neat thing about the Word of God, we believe

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that it was actually authored by Him through

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the hands and pens of men and people. So we say

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the Word was dictated in a very real sense. It

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was written, it was guided, it was inspired by

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the Holy Spirit, Him at work. And it has layers

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of truth. and it will speak to all men at all

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times. And here's why, is because there's a word

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that's used called rama, the word rama. That

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means God breathed. So the rama word of God is

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the breathed word of God. In other words, it

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has the breath of life in it, which is why Paul

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later says that the word of God is living and

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active and sharper than any two -edged sword,

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piercing even into the joints and marrow. So,

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that's what the word is. It's a living word.

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So, it may say something to you at one point

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in your life, and then 10 years later, you're

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scanning, you're reading, and you come over the

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same verse, and it may say something. I wouldn't

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say entirely different. It'll just be enhanced.

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It'll be more. It'll have more depth. But it

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can say something different to you in different

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times because the emphasis will be on a different

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part of the verse. the object of the verse may

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change, if that makes sense. So context gives

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us this is what it meant to those folks in history.

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And it's like the Constitution. We need to understand

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the times in which we live. That's why it's so

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important to know our history. But then we also

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have to adapt and interpret it for our time today.

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Same way with Scripture. So in this particular

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Scripture, you're right. I mean, the Hebrew word

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kishur literally is conspiracy treason, or an

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unlawful alliance. I mean, how relevant this

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look around right now of what's happening, unlawful

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alliances, treason, conspiracy. It can describe

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a genuine political plot. God isn't saying conspiracies

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never exist. He's warning Isaiah not to adopt

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the crowd's interpretation and fear. How relevant

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is that? I mean, it is exactly speaks to our

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time. Completely. Because here's the way to understand

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the nature of man has never changed since the

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garden. I mean, it's the same old story displayed.

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It's always the woman's fault is what you mean.

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I'm not going to say that out loud. I'm not leaving

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that level of an Easter egg for my wife. I'm

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just saying. Just kidding. Although she would

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probably say that actually, because she's like,

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it's always women. I'm like, but you are one.

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And she says, I know. But I love what that says

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in that, I'll read that sentence again, it can

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describe a genuine political plot. And that was

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the issue in the day. Wow. So what was happening

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was, Ephraim up in the North, one of the tribes

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had joined forces with Syria. So it was a Syria,

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Ephraim, alliance, which was an evil alliance.

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God had told them not to align with enemies,

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never to become allies. But by definition, a

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political alliance. It was a political alliance.

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Now they come together and they're threatening

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to attack the South, Judah. So Isaiah is in the

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South and he's dealing with all these people

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who are losing their minds because their internet,

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their version of the internet is saying, we're

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about to get killed. We're about to get crushed.

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This is going to be bad. It's over. We're at

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the end of an era. We're at the end of an epoch.

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You know what I mean? The same things we say

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today. And it was the same language and they

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were in fear. God through the prophet Isaiah

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whispers to them, not so much of a whisper, he

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basically says this, if you're going to fear

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or dread anything, you should fear and dread

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me, not what other men fear and dread. And that's

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exactly how the verse reads. I read mine in the

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NIV 84 version, so listen to it in that version.

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Do not call conspiracy everything that these

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people call conspiracy. Do not fear what they

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fear and do not dread it. Now later you read

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the content to context he's saying if you're

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gonna fear anybody fear me fear me Yeah, I mean

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he's literally he say you've got your attention

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on the wrong thing Yes, you know the object of

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what you're fearing is wrong That's so good and

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as a political conspiracy just to make it clear

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I have to say this almost whenever I talk to

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anybody about anything going on in the so -called

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news Which we'll get to that Everything everything

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everything is about the midterms. Everything,

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just everything. I don't care what topic it is,

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it has a midterm slant and this is how America

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runs. It's a multi -billion dollar business,

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like multi, multi -billion dollar business. And

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I had quite a... Quite a setup going for us today

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because I was going to talk about the lawsuit.

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Do you know anything about the lawsuit? No, I

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don't. The meta lawsuits? Have you heard? No.

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Oh, yeah, yeah. Meta. I don't know what you're

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talking about. Maybe a little bit. You know,

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it hasn't really been top of news. It hasn't.

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But it will be tonight probably because just

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this morning we got this breaking news. The corporation

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that owns Facebook and Instagram has settled

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the case for a landmark $12 billion and up to

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$17 billion over the next 10 years. In addition,

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they'll have to make major changes to their social

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apps that the state's claim got kids and teens

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hooked. Some of the changes are a default daily

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time limit of two hours for users under the age

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of 18 that can only be changed by a parent. Also,

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an enhanced system allowing teens to report harmful

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content that meta must respond to. to within

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six hours. all social networks are looking at

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this, like, okay, what do we have to do? And

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it wasn't so much the content, but it was the

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mechanisms, what we would call the algorithms

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or the quote unquote addictive nature of it.

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And I do want to go through a couple of these

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clips that I pulled anyway, just so we can understand,

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because they didn't really settle on anything.

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And this was only focusing on kids. So the whole...

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And that's how you, I mean, everything, you can

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build a lawsuit for anything as long as it's

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hurting children. I mean, please think of the

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children that is a primal reaction from any parent,

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any adult, even if you don't have kids. Like,

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oh, it's hurting kids. Now, of course, they're

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going to get into, just to show you how weak

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this is. There won't be age verification. There'll

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be age assurance. I was like, okay, so. We're

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not on video, so you can't see the look on my

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face. But I'm also pretty sure this was punted

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by the states to get it out of the way before

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the midterms because everybody needs the social

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media networks for the midterms. Yep. Everybody

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needs it. Absolutely. And so even though it's

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just attorney generals, attorney generals are

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political as well, they're not supposed to be,

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but look at Ken Paxson. He was, was he... Attorney

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General? Yes. And now he's running for Senate?

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Yes. So, you know, so everybody's political and

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everybody wants to stay on the good side of everything.

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But this was what the basic suit was about. MedOut

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is back in court, this time facing allegations

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that it knowingly designed Instagram and Facebook

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to keep children and teenagers hooked, even as

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it learned about the potential harm to their

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mental health. Attorneys general from California,

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Colorado, Kentucky, and New Jersey are seeking

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changes to how Metta operates its platforms and

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roughly $200 billion in penalties. which is what

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makes this settlement quite laughable, was $1

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.3 trillion. So $17 billion, of which $12 billion

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now and $5 billion later on, it'll leave a mark.

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It'll hurt them, but it's not the end of the

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world by far. They're part of a larger group

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of 29 states that sued the tech giant over child

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safety and privacy. The other states will go

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to trial later. The states argue Meta designed

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its apps to quote, hook the users, hold them

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for as long as they can, harvest their data and

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hide the truth from the public. Hook them, hold

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them, harvest them, hide them, beautiful. Nice

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alliteration. Well, you know, that's, that's

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some consultant came up with that, you know,

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to work against them. A Meta spokesperson called

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those claims unsubstantiated, saying the company

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stands by its record of protecting miners on

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their platforms. For more, we're joined by Bloomberg

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tech reporter Alexandra Levine, who's been covering

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this trial. Alexandra, welcome. Thanks for joining

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us. Thanks for having me. So Meta and other social

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media companies have faced similar allegations.

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They've gone to trial before. How is this trial

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different? Yeah, well... We've been hearing about

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alleged harms to children through social media

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for so many years at this point. I think what

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makes this moment very different is that in the

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past, a lot of the focus has been on the content

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posted the platforms and how that content could

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be harmful. Right now, the focus is mainly on

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product design. So how the actual products of

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Instagram and Facebook have been built to, as

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the state attorney general was alleged, to keep

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children hooked and to harm them. certain design

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features, and these are seated business practices

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that are integral to both of the platforms. But

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I think the difference between the content posted

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and the product design is a key difference. The

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other key difference here, of course, is that

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in addition to seeking monetary penalties, the

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state AGs would like to see injunctive relief

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measures, which would actually fundamentally

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change the way that the platforms operate. So

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it's really great when you get to change something

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for a relatively small age group, which isn't

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really that interesting. Advertisers and people

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who want to advertise want to advertise to one

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specific group, 1824. Now, if they can get kids

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early, yeah, I guess there's benefit to that.

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But anything you do for children, I don't think

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it's a big deal to these companies in general,

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but there's quite an analogy to this entire setup,

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which I've been discussing with Rob Carty, the

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constitutional lawyer. By the way, if you got

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hit by a truck, call Suits and Boots. Come on,

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man. They'll get you maximum money, I guarantee

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you. Those guys are amazing. They are friends.

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Friends and Rob. Friends of the family. Great

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guys. Friends of the family. Our family, too.

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We laid out our case today, which is essentially

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this. This is the AG. That meta. has designed

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and deployed dangerous product dangerous product

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with dangerous features that they knew uh...

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would create excessive use and compulsive use

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by children and it would create mental health

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harms including things like anxiety and depression

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uh... like body image issues like addictive tendencies

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like learning loss they knew all that They knew

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their product was dangerous and they lied to

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the public. They lied to Congress. They told

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the public. They told the world that their product

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was safe, that it wasn't dangerous. Okay. Where

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have we heard this before? Where have we heard

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this before? I take you back in the time machine.

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Close your eyes so you don't get nauseous. If

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it's the room is spinning, look at the ground,

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it'll all go away. 1994. Let me begin my questioning

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on the matter of whether or not nicotine is addictive.

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Let me ask you first, and I'd like to just go

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down the row, whether each of you believes that

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nicotine is not addictive. I heard virtually

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all of you touch on it and just yes or no. Do

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you believe nicotine is not addictive? I believe

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nicotine is not addictive, yes. Mr. Johnston.

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Congressman. Cigarettes and nicotine clearly

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do not meet the classic definitions of addiction.

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There is no toxin. This was all the big tobacco

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guys sitting in Congress, sitting in Congress.

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We'll take that as a no, and again, time is short.

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If you could just, I think each of you... This

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sounds like Raskin. I'm not sure if he was there

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back there. It sounds like him, though. We believe

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nicotine is not addictive. We just would like

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to have this for the record. Yeah, just get it

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on the record, everybody. I don't believe that

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nicotine for our products are addictive. Next.

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I believe nicotine is not addictive. I believe

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that nicotine is not addictive. Well, spoiler

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alert, they go all the way down the line. I don't

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believe it's addictive. Not one outlier. So what

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is interesting in the analogy between these two

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is that, you know, of course they lied. They

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literally made the product more addictive, not

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just with nicotine, but with other properties.

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And what was really the results of that? the

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state sued the states in this in the in the tobacco

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case the states got something called the master

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settlement agreement and a tax you know when

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you pay tax on cigarettes which is now probably

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much more than the product itself that money

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is split up amongst all the states and goes to

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health care laughable of course because that

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just gets sucked up now into the general ledger

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and you know they've written bonds against that

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income but what did they really do for the children

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Mean they put a warning label on it say they

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get a sticker on them get a sticker You know

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you can't buy it in the store warning the surgeon

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general is deemed blah blah blah age assurance

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It actually turns out you know for a while they

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had those horrible pictures of a diseased lung

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on it I don't remember that that was maybe ten

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years ago. They started that campaign Europe

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still does it Research shows people actually

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are more inclined to buy it when you have that

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on the package kind of like I can beat this Like

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they were trading him like I have a diseased

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lung. You got a heart. Let me have your pack

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I mean, it's crazy and I'm sure they thought

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about that before they actually put that into

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into effect The thing that that is interesting

00:24:10.950 --> 00:24:14.470
though is people still smoke It's not like yeah,

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a lot of people have given up that wasn't necessarily

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because of that lawsuit You know, it's it's less

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easy for kids that we can't go in and buy a pack

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But you know kids underage still smoke But it

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never removed the problem it never removed and

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I don't think they ever actually removed any

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of the addictive properties You know, they didn't

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really change the product that much So this the

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analog here is okay You can do stuff for kids

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like the it'll you won't be able to access it

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at night It'll tell you to take a break You'll

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be able to hide your likes hide them by default

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so you can turn it back on you know, whatever

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crutches they've come up with But are kids really

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the problem? No. Do you really see children?

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I mean, yes, big problems. But is that really

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the problem? The problem, no. No. Who has problems?

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Us. Adults. 30 -year -olds. Boomers. Anybody

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with a pulse. Anybody with a pulse. Exactly.

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And this is, I think, CNBC. The woman actually,

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the news model, I call him, she actually admits

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it. The courtroom doors are open. And it is time

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that the public see what the executives at Metta

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have known all along, that their products are

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designed to addict and harm children. We got

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a third of the planet on their products. They

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broke our brains, all of them. It's not just

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about kids. And so at the end of the day, I think

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there should be some sort of reckoning. Sorry,

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it was a male news model. He's saying it. They

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broke our brains. They broke everybody, a third

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of the planet. And it's absolutely true. So the

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product is not just the problem. There was this

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fantastic documentary I found on Deutsche Welle.

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So it's German with English voiceover. It was

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called Loneliness Influencers. I think I saw

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that. Not really. Just kidding. It's possible.

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It's possible. But these are not. late 20, early

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30 year olds who have just gone, because of social

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media, have gone into a complete state of loneliness

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while they've never been as connected before

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in their lives. I've really noticed the intense

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doom scrolling, especially when I'm alone at

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home. The phone is basically a connection to

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feel some kind of fake closeness. At the same

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time, it makes you feel even lonelier. Totally.

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I really felt that during the times I was doing

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badly. I'd sleep 15 hours and spend the other

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nine in front of a screen because it kind of

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pulls you away from your own reality and your

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thoughts. Do you think that's good, watching

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that stuff? Of course not. I was doing badly.

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But that was my way of coping. It's kind of dumb.

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But it's also like, there's this FOMO thing,

00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:17.920
right? Someone's traveling and you feel bad about

00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:21.339
your life. But if you just switch your life and

00:27:21.339 --> 00:27:23.299
turn on the internet, it feels like you just

00:27:23.299 --> 00:27:25.500
traveled too, because you watched that vlog.

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I think it's really just that dopamine kick.

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At the same time, like I said, it makes me lonelier.

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Social media is completely curated. People only

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post what looks amazing. So they're very aware

00:27:43.579 --> 00:27:46.079
of what's going on, completely aware, yet they're

00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:49.160
fully into it. And what happens is these people...

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aren't finding faith, they aren't finding God,

00:27:53.049 --> 00:27:57.230
they're finding people teaching them how to manifest.

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You know, like, I'm going to be okay, and the

00:28:00.630 --> 00:28:03.069
world is going to be okay. This is literally

00:28:03.069 --> 00:28:06.390
the… Category known as Loneliness Influencers,

00:28:06.589 --> 00:28:09.369
which is just mind -bogglingly scary. Part of

00:28:09.369 --> 00:28:11.789
my daily routine is watching videos from YouTubers

00:28:11.789 --> 00:28:15.250
who make content about manifestation. I basically

00:28:15.250 --> 00:28:17.690
have them in my ear all the time. What I love

00:28:17.690 --> 00:28:19.769
is that you get this sense of power, that you're

00:28:19.769 --> 00:28:22.750
truly the creator of your own reality. You don't

00:28:22.750 --> 00:28:24.769
need astrology or anything outside yourself.

00:28:24.789 --> 00:28:26.410
Oh, don't even need that. Don't even, don't,

00:28:26.529 --> 00:28:28.309
Noah, don't need any of that stuff, no. Every

00:28:28.309 --> 00:28:30.490
day it's me who decides who I am. That gives

00:28:30.490 --> 00:28:35.410
me a real boost. Hi, I'm Vanneleen. I'm 34 years

00:28:35.410 --> 00:28:38.230
old, a Gemini, and I'm a trained actress, host,

00:28:38.529 --> 00:28:41.529
voice actor, mental coach, photographer, lecturer,

00:28:41.930 --> 00:28:46.910
and model. Go ahead. There is an unholy trinity

00:28:46.910 --> 00:28:50.069
out there and it's called me, myself, and I.

00:28:50.190 --> 00:28:53.589
That is all I heard right there. It's all about

00:28:53.589 --> 00:28:59.190
me. Yes. I remember when Oprah came out a couple

00:28:59.190 --> 00:29:02.670
of decades ago and she started just throwing

00:29:02.670 --> 00:29:05.670
everything off and saying, it's all about me.

00:29:06.289 --> 00:29:09.109
It's all about, I've got to take care of me.

00:29:09.670 --> 00:29:12.589
And, you know, there is a level of truth that

00:29:12.589 --> 00:29:15.430
we do have to mind. We have to steward the gift

00:29:15.430 --> 00:29:18.130
that God's given us. That's us, mind, body, spirit.

00:29:18.869 --> 00:29:22.849
But it goes way over a line to where, and if

00:29:22.849 --> 00:29:24.650
you think about it, what she's talking about,

00:29:25.190 --> 00:29:28.170
okay, she's downing dopamine hits, but yet she's

00:29:28.170 --> 00:29:30.630
getting them by doing this manifestation trick.

00:29:31.099 --> 00:29:34.180
It's a hack. It's a biohack. It's a mental hack.

00:29:34.380 --> 00:29:37.539
Yes, without even knowing it. Yeah, exactly.

00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:40.339
It's the same thing. It's just an exchanging

00:29:40.339 --> 00:29:44.660
one dopamine generator for another. And so she's

00:29:44.660 --> 00:29:48.299
trading off things, but that will not give lasting...

00:29:48.299 --> 00:29:49.960
I mean, how long has she been doing it? A month?

00:29:50.299 --> 00:29:52.960
Three weeks? I mean, who knows? Because everything

00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.359
in social media is a short shelf life. I mean,

00:29:56.500 --> 00:29:59.039
right now, neuroscience, everything's neuroscience.

00:29:59.700 --> 00:30:03.700
Andrew Huberman, all this neuro, neurology, then

00:30:03.700 --> 00:30:06.299
it's breathing. You gotta breathe right. I'm

00:30:06.299 --> 00:30:07.980
gonna teach you how to breathe. We're gonna do

00:30:07.980 --> 00:30:10.380
a double -hit breathe with a long exhale. Then

00:30:10.380 --> 00:30:14.930
it's always something that's a hack. And people

00:30:14.930 --> 00:30:17.990
are looking for hacks for life. Oh, even believers

00:30:17.990 --> 00:30:19.930
are looking for hacks. Believers are looking

00:30:19.930 --> 00:30:21.509
for the next guy to tell them something. Here's

00:30:21.509 --> 00:30:24.710
the tragedy about that. And I have this headline,

00:30:24.869 --> 00:30:27.269
social media has changed not only what we read,

00:30:27.670 --> 00:30:32.829
but how we read. I mean, this is like deep dive.

00:30:33.049 --> 00:30:36.549
Shall I tell you my view on that? Bring it. Because

00:30:36.549 --> 00:30:40.089
we are only looking at clips. And I'm not just

00:30:40.089 --> 00:30:45.690
talking about clips of video. people will literally

00:30:45.690 --> 00:30:49.490
post a screenshot of a headline of a story. If

00:30:49.490 --> 00:30:52.250
they even post a link, so headlines are a whole,

00:30:52.930 --> 00:30:55.349
the writer of an article doesn't write the headline.

00:30:55.789 --> 00:30:58.210
Headlines are written by headline writers. They

00:30:58.210 --> 00:31:00.990
A, B, C, and D test them throughout the day,

00:31:01.049 --> 00:31:02.809
the minute it's released, to see which one gets

00:31:02.809 --> 00:31:04.950
the most clicks. That's the one they go with.

00:31:05.230 --> 00:31:08.829
So that is literally how news is getting more

00:31:08.829 --> 00:31:12.549
clicks is by what clickbait headline works better.

00:31:13.309 --> 00:31:15.950
In eight times out of ten, you click on a new

00:31:15.950 --> 00:31:19.289
story, what do you get? Paywall. Definitely.

00:31:19.430 --> 00:31:22.470
So people are 30 pop -ups on that page. There's

00:31:22.470 --> 00:31:26.390
that. But the paywall is the problem, because

00:31:26.390 --> 00:31:29.410
you're only seeing the headline, you may be seeing

00:31:29.410 --> 00:31:34.970
the first paragraph, and this is, I had to go

00:31:34.970 --> 00:31:37.150
into myself on this one, because this is very

00:31:37.150 --> 00:31:41.970
similar to reading the Bible. So if we only read

00:31:42.109 --> 00:31:46.849
Isaiah 8 -12 and not within context, we can miss

00:31:46.849 --> 00:31:51.630
a lot. And I got to be honest, I myself have

00:31:51.630 --> 00:31:53.849
been a lot of a Bible headline reader. It's called

00:31:53.849 --> 00:31:57.170
a devotional. And if you don't get the context

00:31:57.170 --> 00:32:00.349
of it, and you don't go in, and I have forced

00:32:00.349 --> 00:32:02.490
myself, it wasn't that hard because I enjoy it,

00:32:02.750 --> 00:32:07.569
to go read the entire chapter and verse. but

00:32:07.569 --> 00:32:09.950
people don't do that. So you're still getting

00:32:09.950 --> 00:32:12.329
just little quick hits of, oh, okay, I feel better

00:32:12.329 --> 00:32:16.069
without the context, which means you can lose

00:32:16.069 --> 00:32:18.869
everything of what that verse was written for

00:32:18.869 --> 00:32:21.630
and what God is trying to tell you with it. And

00:32:21.630 --> 00:32:25.450
I think we as believers, as get to nation, as

00:32:25.450 --> 00:32:28.690
doers, we've got to help people understand that

00:32:28.690 --> 00:32:32.150
a devotional alone is not going to do it because

00:32:32.150 --> 00:32:35.490
we've been trained. Oh, this is my quick Bible

00:32:35.490 --> 00:32:39.490
fix. I was disappointed in myself. Like, wow,

00:32:39.509 --> 00:32:44.309
I'm actually doing this. So that's part of the

00:32:44.309 --> 00:32:51.009
problem. It is. So I'm glad you brought up neuroscience

00:32:51.009 --> 00:32:55.789
because just as actual brain scientists created

00:32:55.789 --> 00:33:00.569
the entire algorithm concept of firing dopamine,

00:33:01.130 --> 00:33:04.019
there's plenty of... documentation, there's,

00:33:04.019 --> 00:33:06.000
you know, some funny documentaries about it.

00:33:06.619 --> 00:33:08.779
Everyone's kind of aware that, you know, the

00:33:08.779 --> 00:33:11.099
minute you're about to leave Facebook or Instagram,

00:33:11.259 --> 00:33:13.420
you get all the alerts, they hold that back.

00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:15.700
Oh, I just got some dopamine hits, I'm saying.

00:33:17.019 --> 00:33:21.220
Way before this, scientists, brain scientists,

00:33:21.819 --> 00:33:25.160
network scientists, were already, had already

00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:28.920
figured out how network effects really work.

00:33:29.470 --> 00:33:33.029
And this is important because this is where clips

00:33:33.029 --> 00:33:35.109
come in. I'm so blind today. Hold on a second.

00:33:35.430 --> 00:33:39.650
I'm like squinting all over the place. This is

00:33:39.650 --> 00:33:42.390
the law of large numbers. Have you ever heard

00:33:42.390 --> 00:33:46.450
of the law of large numbers? This is Leonard

00:33:46.450 --> 00:33:51.269
Kleinrock. He actually built the first node on

00:33:51.269 --> 00:33:54.230
the internet when it was the DARPAnet Defense

00:33:54.230 --> 00:33:59.140
Advanced Research Project Agency. Defense. Advanced

00:33:59.140 --> 00:34:03.380
research Al Gore takes credit for it, but the

00:34:03.380 --> 00:34:07.019
Defense Department was on this long before 1969

00:34:07.019 --> 00:34:09.460
is when they were already doing these experiments

00:34:09.460 --> 00:34:12.019
and listen to his this is just a let me see if

00:34:12.019 --> 00:34:17.980
I have this one. This is a Here we go This is

00:34:17.980 --> 00:34:21.199
just a quickie. This was a simplified but exact

00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:24.809
model at the time now we have other aspects of

00:34:24.809 --> 00:34:27.429
it. But it's basically the underlying principles

00:34:27.429 --> 00:34:30.010
of the network and one of the things we found,

00:34:30.530 --> 00:34:32.989
surprisingly, was that the larger the network

00:34:32.989 --> 00:34:36.530
is, the far more efficient it becomes. Like a

00:34:36.530 --> 00:34:39.130
gambling casino that certainly makes money if

00:34:39.130 --> 00:34:41.829
you have millions of gamblers at the slot machines.

00:34:42.289 --> 00:34:45.110
Very much so. You've articulated what we call

00:34:45.110 --> 00:34:48.070
the law of large numbers. The law of large numbers

00:34:48.070 --> 00:34:51.469
says that a large population of unpredictable

00:34:51.469 --> 00:34:56.449
players or messages collectively behaves in a

00:34:56.449 --> 00:34:59.130
very predictable fashion a fashion we can write

00:34:59.130 --> 00:35:02.150
down exactly and we therefore we can predict

00:35:02.150 --> 00:35:04.949
the performance of a network when it's large

00:35:04.949 --> 00:35:07.110
isn't that interesting the law of averages the

00:35:07.110 --> 00:35:09.230
guy even says in the background oh kind of like

00:35:09.230 --> 00:35:11.510
as long as you have enough gamblers you're always

00:35:11.510 --> 00:35:14.329
gonna make money yes the larger the network the

00:35:14.329 --> 00:35:17.360
more predictable the way the individual nodes,

00:35:17.420 --> 00:35:20.639
guess what we are, we're nodes, the way those

00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:23.639
nodes will behave. Now this is him in 2015, so

00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:25.800
this is 11 years ago, listen to what he predicted.

00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:28.639
Well as I said, one of the challenges is to make

00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:32.340
the internet invisible, to disappear into the

00:35:32.340 --> 00:35:35.460
infrastructure surrounding us. And to do that,

00:35:35.820 --> 00:35:37.860
what's happening now, and will happen in the

00:35:37.860 --> 00:35:42.119
future, is the deployment of embedded devices,

00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:46.500
small devices, actuators, sensors, logic, memory,

00:35:46.739 --> 00:35:49.599
displays, cameras, microphones, in our environment,

00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:52.679
as I say, in our bodies, in our fingernails,

00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:56.920
in our walls, in our tables, etc. So the idea

00:35:56.920 --> 00:36:00.199
of physical devices embedded in our physical

00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:03.219
infrastructure communicating with us. At the

00:36:03.219 --> 00:36:06.519
same time, we'll have intelligent software agents

00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:09.480
out in cyberspace. Sound like a thing like your

00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:13.000
chatbot, like AI? Yeah. doing the things we ask

00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:16.199
them to, providing us information, mining data,

00:36:16.539 --> 00:36:20.340
alerting us, reminding us, etc. And you know

00:36:20.340 --> 00:36:23.800
right now those intelligent software agents and

00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:26.679
those embedded devices in our physical infrastructure

00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:30.039
are generating more traffic on the internet than

00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:33.800
our humans. That's already an indication that

00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:36.099
where we're heading for is what I like to refer

00:36:36.099 --> 00:36:41.280
to as a global, a global nervous system, a global

00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:44.079
internet nervous system for the entire planet.

00:36:44.699 --> 00:36:46.699
And that's where we're heading. It'll be invisible,

00:36:47.099 --> 00:36:49.559
it'll be everywhere, it'll be omnipresent, it'll

00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:53.039
be easy to use, and it'll be cooperative and

00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:56.860
functional. A global nervous system. That just

00:36:56.860 --> 00:36:59.500
needed an ominous soundtrack behind it. I know,

00:36:59.619 --> 00:37:02.480
but it's from 2015. We weren't doing that back

00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:07.070
in the day. Wow. So they already knew that this

00:37:07.070 --> 00:37:09.309
is turning into a nervous system. Now, a nervous

00:37:09.309 --> 00:37:11.429
system, everything is connected one way or the

00:37:11.429 --> 00:37:17.670
other. So how does something go viral? Now, you'd

00:37:17.670 --> 00:37:20.869
think you want it to go to somewhere who was

00:37:20.869 --> 00:37:24.550
a node connected to all kinds of nodes, like

00:37:24.550 --> 00:37:27.550
what we would call an influencer. Turns out,

00:37:27.769 --> 00:37:30.969
in the law of large numbers, that is not true.

00:37:33.150 --> 00:37:37.769
I mean, I was like, what? That, okay. And where

00:37:37.769 --> 00:37:40.409
it does happen is interesting. And today the

00:37:40.409 --> 00:37:43.190
way we tend to think about - This is Professor

00:37:43.190 --> 00:37:45.769
Sentola. This is in terms of networks. What binds

00:37:45.769 --> 00:37:48.409
people together are the patterns of connection

00:37:48.409 --> 00:37:50.429
between them and the people they know and the

00:37:50.429 --> 00:37:52.630
people they know and so forth. And when we look

00:37:52.630 --> 00:37:54.550
at networks, there are several key features that

00:37:54.550 --> 00:37:57.409
we think are the most important things for understanding

00:37:57.409 --> 00:38:00.639
human behavior and human behavior change. And

00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:03.280
typically we pick out the people who have very

00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:06.179
highly connected networks who are in the center

00:38:06.179 --> 00:38:09.059
of the network, and they've got ties reaching

00:38:09.059 --> 00:38:11.599
out in all directions. And then we look at people

00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:13.760
who are in the periphery of the network, shown

00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.400
on the right, who have many fewer connections,

00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:18.559
but also those connections are sort of clustered

00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:21.340
together. So it's not just the number of connections

00:38:21.340 --> 00:38:23.139
that differs between the center and the periphery,

00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:25.280
but also the structure of those connections that's

00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:27.780
different. And when we think about any kind of

00:38:27.780 --> 00:38:31.119
technology diffusion process or innovation process,

00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:34.039
we have a kind of common idea of how it works.

00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:36.059
We say, well, typically someone who's highly

00:38:36.059 --> 00:38:39.340
connected adopts first and that person influences

00:38:39.340 --> 00:38:42.019
the people around them. And from that initial

00:38:42.019 --> 00:38:44.659
process, then it spreads very effectively out

00:38:44.659 --> 00:38:47.199
towards the outer skirts of the network and then

00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:49.400
saturates the rest of the population. So that's

00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:52.849
our classic model of spreading. What I want to

00:38:52.849 --> 00:38:55.170
suggest is that a problem has arisen in the last

00:38:55.170 --> 00:38:57.550
20 years. We've started to get really good data

00:38:57.550 --> 00:39:01.090
on how social movements spread, how new technologies

00:39:01.090 --> 00:39:05.010
like Twitter and Facebook spread. And really

00:39:05.010 --> 00:39:07.650
what we tend to see is that when technology or

00:39:07.650 --> 00:39:10.010
new ideas, new political movements take hold,

00:39:10.449 --> 00:39:12.449
they tend to take hold out in the periphery.

00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.019
instead of the center and then when they spread

00:39:15.019 --> 00:39:16.460
instead of jumping to the center and what they

00:39:16.460 --> 00:39:19.579
tend to do is they tend to spread around the

00:39:19.579 --> 00:39:22.019
edges of the social network and they only reach

00:39:22.019 --> 00:39:23.900
the center of the network at the very end of

00:39:23.900 --> 00:39:31.440
the process. This is LGBTQ but it's also far

00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:35.059
right far left this is why politicians are so

00:39:35.059 --> 00:39:37.679
they know it yeah they know it they notice they

00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:41.239
can get a small group on the periphery, on the

00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:44.059
outside to continue. It's so counterintuitive

00:39:44.059 --> 00:39:47.119
because you think, well, as long as Megan Kelly

00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:50.579
says it or Sean Hannity, but no, that's not how

00:39:50.579 --> 00:39:53.519
it works. In the connected nervousness system,

00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:56.699
it's the small things on the edges. Which is

00:39:56.699 --> 00:39:59.980
why RFK was willing to do podcasts with almost

00:39:59.980 --> 00:40:03.980
anyone. Exactly. Nobody. Small podcasts. That's

00:40:03.980 --> 00:40:08.320
right. College kids. He would sit down with anybody.

00:40:08.619 --> 00:40:13.019
And it worked pretty well for him. He might not

00:40:13.019 --> 00:40:14.980
have made it to president, but he is right up

00:40:14.980 --> 00:40:17.440
there making a big difference in this world.

00:40:17.579 --> 00:40:20.460
I think President Trump also realizes, I don't

00:40:20.460 --> 00:40:23.500
know if he understands the depth of the network

00:40:23.500 --> 00:40:26.840
level, but he does stuff which is clearly meant

00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:30.079
to trigger things way on the edges like Lake

00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:34.199
Ontario, Lake America. That's triggering all

00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:38.079
on the outside, but it's not as... as unimportant

00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:42.480
as we think it is, possibly. Now, one of the

00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:44.739
biggest, the company that understood this very

00:40:44.739 --> 00:40:50.139
well, which was attacked when Steve Bannon used

00:40:50.139 --> 00:40:52.920
it for President Trump's first campaign, but

00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:56.739
it really was brought to life during the campaign

00:40:56.739 --> 00:41:01.619
for Barack Obama, is the outfit called, oh no,

00:41:01.619 --> 00:41:05.900
I forgot the name of it. It's in the clip. They

00:41:05.900 --> 00:41:09.940
were taking Facebook data and they were influencing

00:41:09.940 --> 00:41:13.059
people to vote for initially for President Obama.

00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:14.960
I think the name is in here. Cambridge Analytica

00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:17.860
has sought to Cambridge Analytica. Cambridge

00:41:17.860 --> 00:41:20.360
Analytica. You may have heard of them. There

00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:23.019
was a lot to do about them for a while, but they

00:41:23.019 --> 00:41:27.429
figured out how to activate people. on the edges,

00:41:27.469 --> 00:41:30.150
but not as a central to a central influencer.

00:41:30.489 --> 00:41:32.449
Cambridge Analytica sought to identify mental

00:41:32.449 --> 00:41:34.670
vulnerabilities in voters and worked to exploit

00:41:34.670 --> 00:41:37.650
them by targeting information designed to activate

00:41:37.650 --> 00:41:39.909
some of the worst characteristics in people such

00:41:39.909 --> 00:41:42.469
as neuroticism, paranoia, and racial biases.

00:41:42.869 --> 00:41:45.269
To be clear, the work of Cambridge Analytica

00:41:45.269 --> 00:41:49.030
is not equivalent to traditional marketing. Cambridge

00:41:49.030 --> 00:41:51.750
Analytica specialized in disinformation, spreading

00:41:51.750 --> 00:41:54.670
rumors, compromise, and propaganda. There it

00:41:54.670 --> 00:41:57.360
is, propaganda. This is where I wanted to get

00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:01.619
us. Everything we see right now, including from

00:42:01.619 --> 00:42:05.139
people we admire and like, is propaganda. They

00:42:05.139 --> 00:42:08.659
may not even know it's propaganda. And this is

00:42:08.659 --> 00:42:11.599
what I think everyone misses, like, oh, Facebook

00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:13.679
and they're giving you all the stuff from this

00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:15.559
political party or that political party. No,

00:42:15.659 --> 00:42:18.380
this is just people who know how to manipulate

00:42:18.380 --> 00:42:22.079
the network. And you manipulate the network the

00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:24.500
way people are already manipulated by headlines,

00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:28.079
by clips, out of context, everything's out of

00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.400
context. I mean, this is one of the things I

00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.559
love doing is I love, oh, what's this outrage

00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:35.059
about this clip? Let me go find out the context.

00:42:35.099 --> 00:42:37.119
And you'd be surprised how sometimes it's even

00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:40.219
the exact opposite of why people might be sharing

00:42:40.219 --> 00:42:44.340
it. So propaganda, have we talked about propaganda

00:42:44.340 --> 00:42:47.539
in the past? I mean, bits and pieces here, but

00:42:47.539 --> 00:42:51.099
I like your take on this because What I'm seeing

00:42:51.099 --> 00:42:53.340
is, of course, I'm seeing everything through

00:42:53.340 --> 00:42:55.500
a midterm filter because, you know, the warning

00:42:55.500 --> 00:42:57.619
flag has gone up. Midterms are coming. I mean,

00:42:57.699 --> 00:43:01.579
we're close. I mean, already, I mean, October,

00:43:01.860 --> 00:43:04.840
I mean, we start voting in October, early voting.

00:43:05.500 --> 00:43:08.059
So it's literally around the corner. So everything

00:43:08.059 --> 00:43:10.460
I'm seeing right now, I am reading with massive

00:43:10.460 --> 00:43:13.739
skepticism. I mean, literally. So what I have

00:43:13.739 --> 00:43:16.699
started doing as a practice is when I see something,

00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:19.179
in fact, Well, I saw an announcement, Dolly Parton

00:43:19.179 --> 00:43:22.420
has died at 80 years of age. And my first thought

00:43:22.420 --> 00:43:24.599
wasn't, oh no, my first thought was, is this

00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:27.980
true? I'm serious. And that's actually something

00:43:27.980 --> 00:43:30.360
you have to ask. You have to ask that. Because

00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:32.780
there's been other people, celebrities who have

00:43:32.780 --> 00:43:35.719
been announced with great emotion, they've died

00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:38.159
and it turns out they didn't. They're alive and

00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:43.239
well. So I'm being trained now by this swill

00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:48.829
of information that's so you can't tell where

00:43:48.829 --> 00:43:51.570
it's coming from. It's the telegraph game gone

00:43:51.570 --> 00:43:54.329
insane. The telephone game where you talk to

00:43:54.329 --> 00:43:56.030
one person, talk to another by the third person

00:43:56.030 --> 00:43:58.829
is completely different story. That's happening

00:43:58.829 --> 00:44:01.670
in real time right now. So the hard part for

00:44:01.670 --> 00:44:04.610
me and for others, and so I'm going to defer

00:44:04.610 --> 00:44:07.590
to you in terms of maybe an answer or a response,

00:44:08.210 --> 00:44:11.349
is how and where do we get real information now?

00:44:12.349 --> 00:44:15.559
Well, the answer is nowhere. There it is. But

00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:19.579
it also means that nobody's in control and everybody's

00:44:19.579 --> 00:44:22.679
in control. So that's what I've always liked

00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:26.099
about no agenda. If there was something with

00:44:26.099 --> 00:44:29.159
air traffic control, an air traffic controller,

00:44:29.539 --> 00:44:31.420
give me a boots on the ground to tell me what's

00:44:31.420 --> 00:44:35.300
happening. There was a great, I got a great note.

00:44:35.300 --> 00:44:38.019
It's kind of off topic, but you know, President

00:44:38.019 --> 00:44:42.909
Trump is going to import 300 tons or 300 ,000

00:44:42.909 --> 00:44:48.610
tons, whatever it is, of ground beef. And everybody's

00:44:48.610 --> 00:44:50.469
freaking out. It's going to be poisonous. It's

00:44:50.469 --> 00:44:52.630
going to be cheap. It's going to hurt our farmers.

00:44:53.309 --> 00:44:57.309
And really, I don't think he has any intention

00:44:57.309 --> 00:44:59.909
of importing ground beef. The intent was to lower

00:44:59.909 --> 00:45:03.829
the price of ground beef. The beef cattle futures

00:45:03.829 --> 00:45:06.449
dropped immediately. Mission accomplished. He

00:45:06.449 --> 00:45:09.500
doesn't even have to bring in And I got this

00:45:09.500 --> 00:45:12.159
idea from a rancher, a zoomer rancher who says,

00:45:12.579 --> 00:45:14.760
hey man, I'm building my herd. This is great.

00:45:14.900 --> 00:45:16.920
We were expecting it. We have an 11 year cycle.

00:45:16.940 --> 00:45:19.980
It was a year late already. Anyone who's boohooing

00:45:19.980 --> 00:45:25.940
about this is disingenuous. So that's how I...

00:45:25.940 --> 00:45:28.360
So you got the real story. Boots on the ground.

00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:31.199
But we have people in our church even who have

00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:34.119
boots on the ground in almost every single area.

00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:37.659
of life. But you have to have real human connections.

00:45:37.940 --> 00:45:41.000
Man, that is so true. Wow. Well, I mean, you

00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:43.780
just blew something up in me because I do. If

00:45:43.780 --> 00:45:47.300
I hear a medical something, I'll go to Dr. K.

00:45:47.300 --> 00:45:50.260
Yes. I'll go to one of our guys and go, is this

00:45:50.260 --> 00:45:53.260
true? And they'll just laugh and go, no. Exactly.

00:45:53.940 --> 00:45:57.260
This is also called Gell -Mann amnesia. Really?

00:45:57.860 --> 00:46:02.139
Gell -Mann, two scientists, brain scientists,

00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:05.440
they said, If you read something in the newspaper

00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:08.500
and it's something you are an expert in and it's

00:46:08.500 --> 00:46:11.780
incorrect, you probably will forget to tell yourself

00:46:11.780 --> 00:46:14.199
that everything else on that page is probably

00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:17.630
incorrect as well. That's gel man amnesia. Wow.

00:46:17.809 --> 00:46:19.510
So let's go back to the propaganda because you

00:46:19.510 --> 00:46:21.369
said earlier all that clip needed was a little

00:46:21.369 --> 00:46:24.030
bit of scary music. Yeah. Dude, talk about one

00:46:24.030 --> 00:46:26.769
of the best parts of propaganda that is built

00:46:26.769 --> 00:46:29.889
into the tools of online systems. Now, I'm going

00:46:29.889 --> 00:46:32.869
to create a clip. It adds to scary music. It

00:46:32.869 --> 00:46:36.530
does all the jump cuts. That is the essence of

00:46:36.530 --> 00:46:39.730
propaganda, the very essence of it. And then

00:46:39.730 --> 00:46:43.940
you've got YouTubers and podcasters and YouTube

00:46:43.940 --> 00:46:46.219
pastors and all kinds of people taking those

00:46:46.219 --> 00:46:50.340
clips commenting on them and Validating them

00:46:50.340 --> 00:46:53.199
validating even though it may not be entirely

00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:55.440
true, right? But to understand this we need to

00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:59.940
go back to the nephew of Sigmund Freud Sigmund

00:46:59.940 --> 00:47:03.280
Freud we all know Freud the you know He was the

00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:05.420
guy who wrote the book on how the brain works

00:47:05.420 --> 00:47:07.519
and he had his own ideas I think they still hold

00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.119
true today his nephew was a guy named Edward

00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:13.300
Bernays I know about this guy. And he wrote a

00:47:13.300 --> 00:47:16.420
book called Propaganda. You can read all about

00:47:16.420 --> 00:47:19.960
his studies. And didn't his works get pulled

00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:22.260
into the marketing industry? I'm going to give

00:47:22.260 --> 00:47:25.699
you the exact example of propaganda going back

00:47:25.699 --> 00:47:28.139
to the days when Mr. Bernays, and this is him

00:47:28.139 --> 00:47:33.019
speaking I believe, first got into the game of

00:47:33.019 --> 00:47:35.599
marketing with propaganda. It's a fascinating

00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:38.360
story. Bernays set out to experiment with the

00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:41.460
minds of the popular classes. His most dramatic

00:47:41.460 --> 00:47:45.340
experiment was to persuade women to smoke. At

00:47:45.340 --> 00:47:47.500
that time, there was a taboo against women smoking,

00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:51.000
and one of his early clients, George Hill, the

00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:53.000
president of the American Tobacco Corporation,

00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:57.000
asked Bernays to find a way of breaking it. He

00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:01.239
said, we're losing half of our market because

00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:05.800
men have invoked a taboo against women smoking

00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:09.579
in public. Can you do anything about that?" I

00:48:09.579 --> 00:48:13.119
said, let me think about it. And then I said,

00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:15.900
have I your permission to see a psychoanalyst

00:48:15.900 --> 00:48:21.420
to find out what cigarettes mean to women? He

00:48:21.420 --> 00:48:25.800
said, what'll it cost? So I called up Dr. Brill,

00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:30.639
A .A. Brill, who was a leading psychoanalyst.

00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:33.780
In New York at that time. How come you didn't

00:48:33.780 --> 00:48:35.739
call your uncle? Hey, how come you didn't call

00:48:35.739 --> 00:48:38.280
your uncle? How come you didn't call the top

00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:40.320
dog? Great answer here. That was. Why didn't

00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:43.039
you call your uncle? Because he was in Vienna.

00:48:43.420 --> 00:48:45.159
He wasn't around, man. I got the other guy. He

00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:49.300
was in Vienna. A .A. Brill was one of the first

00:48:49.300 --> 00:48:52.480
psychoanalysts in America. And for a large fee,

00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.159
he told Bernays that cigarettes were a symbol

00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:59.539
of the penis and of male sexual power. He told

00:48:59.539 --> 00:49:03.159
Bernays if he could find a way to connect cigarettes

00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:06.139
with the idea of challenging male power Then

00:49:06.139 --> 00:49:08.460
women would smoke because then they would have

00:49:08.460 --> 00:49:11.639
their own penises. This is the whole phallic

00:49:11.639 --> 00:49:15.039
symbol This is well established psycho psychiatry.

00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:18.260
This is so he took that and Here's what he did

00:49:18.260 --> 00:49:21.199
with it every year New York held an Easter Day

00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:24.780
parade to which thousands came And Bernays decided

00:49:24.780 --> 00:49:28.230
to stage an event there He persuaded a group

00:49:28.230 --> 00:49:30.989
of rich debutantes to hide cigarettes under their

00:49:30.989 --> 00:49:34.869
clothes. Then they should join the parade, and

00:49:34.869 --> 00:49:37.289
at a given signal from him, they were to light

00:49:37.289 --> 00:49:40.449
up the cigarettes dramatically. Bernays then

00:49:40.449 --> 00:49:42.769
informed the press that he had heard that a group

00:49:42.769 --> 00:49:45.889
of suffragettes were preparing to protest by

00:49:45.889 --> 00:49:47.929
lighting up what they called torches of freedom.

00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:51.059
He knew this would be an outcry and he knew that

00:49:51.059 --> 00:49:54.059
all of the photographers would be there to capture

00:49:54.059 --> 00:49:58.159
this moment and so he was ready with a phrase

00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:02.059
which was torches of freedom. And so here you

00:50:02.059 --> 00:50:05.639
have a symbol, women, young women, debutantes,

00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:10.159
smoking a cigarette in public with a phrase that

00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:12.400
means anybody who believes in this kind of equality

00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.199
pretty much has to support them in the ensuing

00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:18.500
debate about this because torches of freedom.

00:50:20.489 --> 00:50:23.530
I mean, what's on all American coins? It's liberty.

00:50:23.949 --> 00:50:28.090
She's holding up the torch. You see? And so all

00:50:28.090 --> 00:50:30.570
of this is there together. There's emotion. There's

00:50:30.570 --> 00:50:33.809
memory. There's a rational phrase. Even though

00:50:33.809 --> 00:50:35.929
it's using a lot of emotional elements, it's

00:50:35.929 --> 00:50:39.530
a phrase that works in a rational sense. All

00:50:39.530 --> 00:50:43.199
of this is together. And so the next day, this

00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:46.460
was not just in all of the New York papers, it

00:50:46.460 --> 00:50:48.920
was across the United States and around the world.

00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:52.539
And from that point forward, the sale of cigarettes

00:50:52.539 --> 00:50:55.760
to women began to rise. He had made them socially

00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:00.239
acceptable with a single symbolic ad. And I would

00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:03.440
argue that the term freedom is still used to

00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:08.820
this day based on that initial campaign. That's

00:51:08.820 --> 00:51:12.139
fascinating. This is scary brilliance This is

00:51:12.139 --> 00:51:15.719
when when someone takes something that they discover

00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:19.619
a key to like a golden key But they also know

00:51:19.619 --> 00:51:22.380
they can use it for a lot of for good and for

00:51:22.380 --> 00:51:25.559
evil Welcome to the world of marketing products

00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:29.440
and politicians and policy and whole political

00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:33.980
parties And this is it's only become easier again

00:51:34.380 --> 00:51:37.260
It's not Elon Musk controlling your thoughts.

00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:40.519
It's not Zuckerberg. It's not Google. It is the

00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:44.119
people who understand how to use the networks

00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:47.940
with the right message. And memes, really big

00:51:47.940 --> 00:51:51.820
one. I think President Trump's first memelogical

00:51:51.820 --> 00:51:55.139
warfare. I mean, it was very, very powerful.

00:51:55.280 --> 00:52:04.139
Now with generative artificial generative intelligence.

00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:06.920
You got the guy out running for mayor in Los

00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:08.820
Angeles. Now he got screwed for other reasons.

00:52:08.900 --> 00:52:13.000
You know, he didn't win. Forget his name. But

00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:16.639
his entire campaign was based upon AI videos.

00:52:17.300 --> 00:52:21.079
So this is how powerful this stuff is. And in

00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:23.929
fact, I have to say this. particular campaign

00:52:23.929 --> 00:52:27.010
is so powerful that I still remembered it as

00:52:27.010 --> 00:52:29.849
being suffragettes. But it wasn't even that.

00:52:29.949 --> 00:52:32.769
It was debutantes pretending to be suffragettes.

00:52:32.789 --> 00:52:35.489
This was 1929. And they were like, you know,

00:52:35.809 --> 00:52:38.269
we want the right to vote. It actually was also

00:52:38.269 --> 00:52:41.449
a political campaign at the same time, because

00:52:41.449 --> 00:52:44.030
women got the right to vote. because they were

00:52:44.030 --> 00:52:46.630
acting like men with their cigarettes. I mean,

00:52:46.690 --> 00:52:49.750
we don't even know if there was a secondary client

00:52:49.750 --> 00:52:53.010
in the mix. So then it creates this sense of,

00:52:53.250 --> 00:52:56.110
okay, if I smoke, I'm giving the finger to men.

00:52:56.309 --> 00:52:58.289
I mean, you know, I'm saying I'm powerful. Or

00:52:58.289 --> 00:53:01.650
I'm equal. Yeah, I have a right to do this. It's

00:53:01.650 --> 00:53:04.190
a symbol of freedom, the torch, the Statue of

00:53:04.190 --> 00:53:06.789
Liberty. Yes. Wow. Does it get any better than

00:53:06.789 --> 00:53:09.409
that? That's brilliant and scary. But these things

00:53:09.409 --> 00:53:14.429
are being brought in all the time. An example,

00:53:15.829 --> 00:53:21.349
Sharia. There's nothing in Islam that talks about

00:53:21.349 --> 00:53:26.369
Sharia law. It is law. It is how you conduct

00:53:26.369 --> 00:53:31.530
yourself. But here in America, politicians use...

00:53:32.550 --> 00:53:35.889
Concatenate the two Sharia law why it's like

00:53:35.889 --> 00:53:38.730
freedom. Hey man law. We're a nation built of

00:53:38.730 --> 00:53:41.969
laws You can't just come in here and change our

00:53:41.969 --> 00:53:46.190
laws That's not necessarily even what they're

00:53:46.190 --> 00:53:50.590
doing. But of course you add a few Imams doing

00:53:50.590 --> 00:53:53.829
a podcast somewhere and then you add in you know

00:53:53.829 --> 00:53:56.570
scenes of Europe where this has taken 25 years

00:53:56.570 --> 00:53:59.349
to grab hold and Before you know it people are

00:53:59.349 --> 00:54:03.539
losing their ever loving minds And then, so you

00:54:03.539 --> 00:54:07.519
get this pastor, I like this guy a lot, he spoke

00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:11.380
at President Trump's inauguration. And this was

00:54:11.380 --> 00:54:13.880
so taken out of context, but it was also him

00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:18.079
using virality to gain stature, I would say.

00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:21.519
You might have seen him yelling at the Dearborn

00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:24.619
City Council, literally yelling at the guy with

00:54:24.619 --> 00:54:28.599
an Irish name to, you know, to renounce Sharia

00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:31.619
law. But the whole thing was about an arrest

00:54:31.619 --> 00:54:36.019
not made for a black man who was protesting and

00:54:36.019 --> 00:54:39.659
Dearborn has arguably a very racist past where

00:54:39.659 --> 00:54:43.280
26 ,000 black Americans could not live in Dearborn,

00:54:43.619 --> 00:54:46.800
but they work there at the factories. And so,

00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:49.340
you know, when he says this whole city was built

00:54:49.340 --> 00:54:52.280
on our backs, it's a racial argument, which he

00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:56.059
actually is not incorrect about. But he's talking

00:54:56.059 --> 00:54:58.780
about someone not being arrested that someone

00:54:58.780 --> 00:55:01.579
was, he actually was arrested a week before he

00:55:01.579 --> 00:55:03.880
made this statement, which is kind of interesting.

00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:08.239
But what people share it as is a pastor who is

00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:12.519
strong, strong for God, standing against Islam.

00:55:13.179 --> 00:55:15.719
Exactly. And it's really a city council, whether

00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:20.679
there's two Muslims on it or not, it goes viral

00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:23.079
and people pick it up for the wrong reasons.

00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:28.980
Tell me about it. It landed in my inbox. So here's

00:55:28.980 --> 00:55:37.039
one that I had to look at. We should talk about

00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:39.980
data centers just for a second. Is President

00:55:39.980 --> 00:55:43.760
Trump actually even called it out that this is

00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:47.599
a public relations issue? But the news sees it

00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:50.250
as one thing and one thing only. It's a midterm

00:55:50.250 --> 00:55:54.550
issue. President Trump hosted tech leaders at

00:55:54.550 --> 00:55:57.150
the White House to discuss U .S. efforts on cryptocurrency

00:55:57.150 --> 00:56:00.530
and artificial intelligence. Trump says the technology

00:56:00.530 --> 00:56:03.650
is crucial to create more jobs and beat China,

00:56:04.050 --> 00:56:06.429
but voters have a different perspective. NPR's

00:56:06.429 --> 00:56:09.090
Deepa Sivaram reports. The president argued that

00:56:09.090 --> 00:56:11.489
if he were the mayor of a town, he would want

00:56:11.489 --> 00:56:14.289
an AI data center there for the tax benefits.

00:56:14.590 --> 00:56:16.469
But if I were a governor or mayor, I would want

00:56:16.469 --> 00:56:19.289
that plant in my community, and many of them

00:56:19.289 --> 00:56:21.429
are designed in a very beautiful way. That puts

00:56:21.429 --> 00:56:23.909
Trump at odds with the majority of Americans.

00:56:24.250 --> 00:56:26.789
A Gallup poll from March this year said seven

00:56:26.789 --> 00:56:29.829
in 10 Americans oppose an AI data center getting

00:56:29.829 --> 00:56:33.230
built in their area. Trump, in his remarks, acknowledged

00:56:33.230 --> 00:56:35.929
that AI data centers could use a quote, little

00:56:35.929 --> 00:56:38.909
public relations help. But his stance underscores

00:56:38.909 --> 00:56:41.269
how his perception of the technology differs

00:56:41.269 --> 00:56:44.449
from voters concerns, which could be a top issue

00:56:44.449 --> 00:56:47.309
in the midterm elections this year. There it

00:56:47.309 --> 00:56:50.610
is. That's why it's an issue. Because you see

00:56:50.610 --> 00:56:53.650
city council meetings from Indiana and other

00:56:53.650 --> 00:56:57.449
places. You know, our electricity is sky high.

00:56:57.710 --> 00:57:01.570
There are some reasons for that in Indiana. But

00:57:01.570 --> 00:57:04.829
there's this confluence of marketing that has

00:57:04.829 --> 00:57:09.550
been put out against Republican politicians.

00:57:09.980 --> 00:57:13.440
to distract them from everything else. And it

00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:19.179
is a democratic party operation. And it's so,

00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:23.519
it's so. prevalent that even our governor here

00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:26.199
in Texas, you're like, oh yeah, I know I'm going

00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:28.980
to stand firm on these data centers. We're putting

00:57:28.980 --> 00:57:31.920
down some restrictions and yeah, we'll stop these

00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:34.179
guys. But you've read up on data centers. Yes,

00:57:34.179 --> 00:57:38.360
I have. What have you found about the evil, evil

00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:40.760
demonic data centers that are popping up everywhere?

00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:42.460
Well, the interesting thing about some of them

00:57:42.460 --> 00:57:44.619
is that there's different kinds of data centers

00:57:44.619 --> 00:57:47.320
and they use different cooling systems. The ones

00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:49.199
that have the internal cooling system will take

00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:51.980
about 30 ,000 gallons to start the thing. It

00:57:51.980 --> 00:57:54.480
has a 10 -year long shelf life. We literally

00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:57.519
have a gentleman in our church who sells these

00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:00.219
closed -loop water systems. You can talk to him

00:58:00.219 --> 00:58:02.380
and he will tell you that the water thing is

00:58:02.380 --> 00:58:06.679
not true. It's not an issue. Then there's the

00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:09.139
electricity issue. Is it going to cause everybody?

00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:11.480
Is there enough on the grid to support it? Because

00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:14.800
it's going to take X megawatts to run. Then there's

00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:19.320
the issue of sound. It makes a hum. I'm going...

00:58:19.610 --> 00:58:22.550
What doesn't? I mean, the cars going on my highway

00:58:22.550 --> 00:58:24.889
make a hum. Let's go back to the electricity

00:58:24.889 --> 00:58:26.789
for a second because that's important. Yeah,

00:58:26.789 --> 00:58:30.849
it's huge. The reason why data centers are coming

00:58:30.849 --> 00:58:33.989
to a place like Texas is because we have trapped

00:58:33.989 --> 00:58:37.730
power, stranded power everywhere. When the windmills

00:58:37.730 --> 00:58:40.809
are going crazy in West Texas and the solar farms

00:58:40.809 --> 00:58:44.110
are producing energy, the grid doesn't need it.

00:58:44.110 --> 00:58:47.110
The grid doesn't need it. So these data centers

00:58:47.110 --> 00:58:49.809
are going wherever there's power, to take that

00:58:49.809 --> 00:58:52.449
power, but the only ones that will actually get

00:58:52.449 --> 00:58:54.909
used ever are the data centers that also can

00:58:54.909 --> 00:58:57.550
then connect to the grid. So you see them building

00:58:57.550 --> 00:59:00.610
their own power supply, their own gas fired,

00:59:00.949 --> 00:59:04.730
some will be nuclear, some coal. This is, I believe,

00:59:04.829 --> 00:59:09.110
is going to be net benefit. Now, Indiana, you

00:59:09.110 --> 00:59:12.230
know, why Indiana, they have huge solar farms.

00:59:13.690 --> 00:59:17.309
So everything about the power is really just

00:59:17.309 --> 00:59:20.610
not true. Where it went up? In Virginia. Virginia

00:59:20.610 --> 00:59:23.210
has tons of data centers. We use data centers.

00:59:23.610 --> 00:59:26.269
We've been using them for decades. You got iCloud.

00:59:26.389 --> 00:59:29.110
You got Google. You use YouTube. Do you watch

00:59:29.110 --> 00:59:32.769
Netflix? Data centers. All data centers. But

00:59:32.769 --> 00:59:36.309
somehow this confluence of the security state

00:59:36.309 --> 00:59:40.070
and the surveillance state and AI is going to

00:59:40.070 --> 00:59:43.110
kill us. Thank you, AI companies for marketing

00:59:43.110 --> 00:59:45.989
that your stuff is going to kill us. It's so

00:59:45.989 --> 00:59:48.730
dangerous. Please, government, please create

00:59:48.730 --> 00:59:51.230
rules and regulations so nobody can use the cheap

00:59:51.230 --> 00:59:53.590
ones that are open source. Do you see what's

00:59:53.590 --> 01:00:00.400
happening here? But people lose their minds over

01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:02.119
this. Well, it's because they pick up on these

01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:04.280
news stories. I've read several of them where

01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:06.260
they scare the bejeebies out of you. Oh, they're

01:00:06.260 --> 01:00:07.960
going to drain all the water out of the Perdenales

01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:09.980
River. We won't have any water here. We already

01:00:09.980 --> 01:00:12.280
have water issues here in the Texas Hill Country.

01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:15.000
Kerrville has a group they put together to actually

01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:18.420
stop all this. So it's like people are picking

01:00:18.420 --> 01:00:22.260
up pitchforks and torches and looking for...

01:00:22.170 --> 01:00:24.550
Frankenstein the monster, you know, showing up

01:00:24.550 --> 01:00:28.449
at doors. So it's creating this groundswell of

01:00:28.449 --> 01:00:32.570
rage. It's interesting how mob mentality, mob

01:00:32.570 --> 01:00:36.349
rule works. Who are they raging against? They're

01:00:36.349 --> 01:00:42.150
raging against politicians. I guess, I guess

01:00:42.150 --> 01:00:44.110
ultimately it comes back to that. Yeah. Yeah.

01:00:44.110 --> 01:00:46.550
Because they're the ones who will regulate. And

01:00:46.550 --> 01:00:49.880
now it's become an issue. for the midterms. Well

01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:54.119
done Democrats and well done Governor Abbott

01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:56.900
for walking right into the trap. The same people

01:00:56.900 --> 01:00:59.809
that are yelling about this are using Check GBT

01:00:59.809 --> 01:01:02.610
like it's gonna end tomorrow. That's the funniest

01:01:02.610 --> 01:01:05.050
thing about it. They're the ones jamming this

01:01:05.050 --> 01:01:08.349
stuff, you know? So it's like... But it's a very,

01:01:08.349 --> 01:01:11.110
very successful campaign. They've done a great

01:01:11.110 --> 01:01:13.849
job. And it literally is. There's a group in

01:01:13.849 --> 01:01:16.469
Portland that started a huge... You may have

01:01:16.469 --> 01:01:20.269
seen Mr. Wonderful. Kevin O 'Leary. So he had

01:01:20.269 --> 01:01:22.530
a data center project and he's like, look at

01:01:22.530 --> 01:01:24.710
these leftist groups there. You know, they're

01:01:24.710 --> 01:01:26.849
railing against my data center. Yeah, exactly.

01:01:27.070 --> 01:01:30.760
And what does it do? It creates turbulence in

01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:32.460
the community. The community's like, yeah, we

01:01:32.460 --> 01:01:34.739
don't really want this. It's dangerous. We got

01:01:34.739 --> 01:01:36.900
flock cameras and storing it there. I've got

01:01:36.900 --> 01:01:39.760
two outside of my gate. I thought about spray

01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:42.079
painting the lenses. Are those flocks? What are

01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:44.320
those? They are. They are. Who put those up?

01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:46.639
Kendall County. By the way, Bernie just voted

01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:49.500
to get rid of them. Now I don't know if it's

01:01:49.500 --> 01:01:52.019
Kendall County or Bernie Texas itself. So I'm

01:01:52.019 --> 01:01:54.059
not sure if it's county. Well, I got a warning

01:01:54.059 --> 01:01:56.739
on my way is driving to your house as a warning

01:01:56.739 --> 01:01:59.239
mobile police camera. Those are flocks. You sure?

01:01:59.420 --> 01:02:02.099
Yep. I mean, so there's two there and there's

01:02:02.099 --> 01:02:04.760
another one over by Hidden Springs on 87. Yeah,

01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:07.239
there's one there. That's another county. I don't

01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:10.599
think that's Gillespie. I'm not sure. 87 goes

01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:13.219
in and out of Gillespie Kerr in Kendall County.

01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:15.000
It's bizarre. You don't know which county you're

01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:18.320
in. But the answer is, hey, city council, let's

01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:20.719
get rid of them. Yeah. If not, we'll get rid

01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:24.300
of you. But instead, we're all losing our minds

01:02:24.300 --> 01:02:29.159
over this stuff. And you get the clips and these

01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:32.059
elaborate productions done by AI showing you

01:02:32.059 --> 01:02:36.559
how data centers are gonna kill us all. It's

01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:42.639
like, not really, not, in fact, in my mind, this

01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:46.699
$500 billion that is being, and we have, We have

01:02:46.699 --> 01:02:48.340
people right here in the church who are part

01:02:48.340 --> 01:02:50.679
of data center building. And they'll tell you,

01:02:50.739 --> 01:02:54.000
man, I wish I could get more people to work on

01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:56.440
this stuff. We need construction workers, welders,

01:02:56.699 --> 01:02:58.960
electricians, people driving. They're going to

01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:01.380
employ a lot of people. And it is one of the

01:03:01.380 --> 01:03:05.219
largest transfers of wealth from all the people

01:03:05.219 --> 01:03:08.519
you love to hate, Black Rock, Goldman Sachs,

01:03:08.739 --> 01:03:12.420
the big hedge funds. I mean, take their money.

01:03:13.159 --> 01:03:15.929
These things won't be there forever. And then

01:03:15.929 --> 01:03:22.130
it's all about the midterms. The same thing where

01:03:22.130 --> 01:03:26.929
there is not an irrational fear of Islam taking

01:03:26.929 --> 01:03:30.949
over. They are about 1 % of the entire US population.

01:03:31.309 --> 01:03:36.039
And yes, they are. They do have plans to... Expand.

01:03:36.059 --> 01:03:39.199
They've had plans since 1990. Exactly. It's been

01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:42.739
around. This is not new. This is not new. But

01:03:42.739 --> 01:03:45.500
it sure is in our face right now. It's being

01:03:45.500 --> 01:03:50.719
used by conservatives to make sure people vote

01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:52.880
Republican. I'm not saying you shouldn't. I'm

01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:55.599
not saying it's a problem. But people are getting

01:03:55.599 --> 01:03:59.880
the nervous system of the network is very twitchy

01:03:59.880 --> 01:04:03.219
over these issues. And people are not necessarily

01:04:03.690 --> 01:04:08.789
reacting the same in a godly way, which we discussed

01:04:08.789 --> 01:04:11.110
on the last episode. So boil this down to kind

01:04:11.110 --> 01:04:14.510
of a simple thing because what you've been talking

01:04:14.510 --> 01:04:17.030
about is systemic in nature. So you're talking

01:04:17.030 --> 01:04:20.889
about the philosophy behind creating these marketing

01:04:20.889 --> 01:04:24.900
campaigns. dating back to, you know, pre -Freud.

01:04:25.059 --> 01:04:27.340
I mean, so now you're, you bring it into the

01:04:27.340 --> 01:04:30.119
future and we're seeing the flock cameras. We're

01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:32.019
seeing, you know, whatever issue it happens to

01:04:32.019 --> 01:04:34.619
be issue of the week or month leading up to the

01:04:34.619 --> 01:04:39.519
midterms. How do we discern or distinguish if

01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:43.800
this is BS? I mean, how do we just, where do

01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:48.929
we, when we see these things drop into our text

01:04:48.929 --> 01:04:51.010
groups from all of our friends that are losing

01:04:51.010 --> 01:04:53.969
their minds, hair on fire. How do we look at

01:04:53.969 --> 01:04:58.369
that and go, so where do we look next? So you've

01:04:58.369 --> 01:05:00.150
taught me, if anything, is if they're saying,

01:05:00.349 --> 01:05:02.090
look here, look here, you need to be looking

01:05:02.090 --> 01:05:04.849
around somewhere else. So how do we take that

01:05:04.849 --> 01:05:08.389
next step to push that down and our visceral

01:05:08.389 --> 01:05:11.590
reaction to these things and start looking for

01:05:11.590 --> 01:05:16.050
something that's true or accurate? Looking around

01:05:16.050 --> 01:05:18.550
you to the people, you know, so if I wanted to

01:05:18.550 --> 01:05:20.610
know something about aircraft I know I'm gonna

01:05:20.610 --> 01:05:23.570
call David if I need to know something about

01:05:23.570 --> 01:05:26.670
tennis, you know I know who to call and a good

01:05:26.670 --> 01:05:30.230
way is to have a church family and you know community

01:05:30.230 --> 01:05:33.449
community and real that's the first place to

01:05:33.449 --> 01:05:35.690
turn to just like we were saying earlier something

01:05:35.690 --> 01:05:38.630
about medicine How many doctors how many lawyers

01:05:38.630 --> 01:05:40.929
do we have here exactly? They're all around you.

01:05:40.929 --> 01:05:43.949
That is the number one place to get your information.

01:05:43.949 --> 01:05:47.440
Yeah The second way is actually something that

01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:50.699
you can do. Well, first of all, question everything

01:05:50.699 --> 01:05:53.539
always if it's online, particularly if it's in

01:05:53.539 --> 01:05:56.340
a clip that's edited with music. Excellent. So

01:05:56.340 --> 01:06:00.719
I will give you an example to land this. Pastor

01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:03.300
Josh Howerton, we both like him a lot. Love the

01:06:03.300 --> 01:06:06.780
guy. We like what he's doing. So Tina sent me...

01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:09.300
at Instagram this morning. She's out the door,

01:06:09.300 --> 01:06:11.920
she's on her walk, so she's in her car, but to

01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:14.619
go to her walk and she sends me this video. And

01:06:14.619 --> 01:06:17.679
I'm like, oh, okay, Pastor Howerton on the Live

01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:20.440
Free podcast. I'm like, okay, let's see what

01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:22.440
it is. I only clipped a little bit of it, a little

01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:25.219
bit over a minute, just to prove a point. I just

01:06:25.219 --> 01:06:27.719
want to point this out. You can't notice the

01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:30.760
music. So, and now he is on his podcast and he's

01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:33.699
going to play a clip that is clipped by somebody

01:06:33.699 --> 01:06:36.599
else that he's playing from Instagram itself

01:06:36.599 --> 01:06:39.400
or TikTok or wherever. So this is now a clip

01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:41.280
of a clip of a clip and we're playing a clip

01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:43.820
of that clip of a clip. It's so mind -boggling.

01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:46.039
I just want to point this out. You can't teach

01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:48.860
the Bible to kids, but we definitely want you

01:06:48.860 --> 01:06:50.760
to be able to kill them. So the New Testament

01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:52.699
talks about wolves in sheep's clothing. What

01:06:52.699 --> 01:06:55.900
that means is somebody that has a Team Jesus

01:06:55.900 --> 01:06:58.480
jersey on, but they're actually playing for Team

01:06:58.480 --> 01:07:02.039
Satan. He's getting asked about the concept of

01:07:02.039 --> 01:07:04.559
having kids. And the he in this case is James

01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:07.769
Teller. who will be running against Ken Paxton

01:07:07.769 --> 01:07:12.369
for Senate in Texas. This is about the midterms,

01:07:12.369 --> 01:07:17.070
without a doubt. Let me just roll that back a

01:07:17.070 --> 01:07:18.750
little bit. I talked over the setup, it's important.

01:07:34.730 --> 01:07:38.769
Pause. So what's really insidious for the Christian

01:07:38.769 --> 01:07:43.010
guy is they're gonna put Bible readings in schools

01:07:43.010 --> 01:07:46.489
and teach it as historical fact. Check this out.

01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:52.179
as the only truth to our youngest students. I

01:07:52.179 --> 01:07:54.820
mean, kindergarten, first graders. So here's

01:07:54.820 --> 01:07:56.280
what's insidious. We're going to teach the Bible

01:07:56.280 --> 01:07:57.920
as a historical fact. We're going to teach it

01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:00.260
as the only truth it is to our youngest students.

01:08:00.460 --> 01:08:02.780
Glory to God. All they're doing is they're trying

01:08:02.780 --> 01:08:07.000
to put a tiny amount of essentially one Bible

01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:09.980
reading in every grade. And they're trying to

01:08:09.980 --> 01:08:12.360
teach them what the bedrock of. So he's not.

01:08:12.559 --> 01:08:14.730
So what? Pastor, first of all, notice the music.

01:08:14.909 --> 01:08:17.029
It's affecting my nervous system. I think it's

01:08:17.029 --> 01:08:19.710
from Damien Omen III or something. It's possible.

01:08:19.710 --> 01:08:22.510
It's got that feel. So the pastor is now telling

01:08:22.510 --> 01:08:24.670
us about what they asked, and we're not actually

01:08:24.670 --> 01:08:27.029
hearing what was asked. The pastor is telling

01:08:27.029 --> 01:08:29.729
us what was asked, and what is the impression

01:08:29.729 --> 01:08:32.050
you get so far of this clip about Tallarico?

01:08:32.130 --> 01:08:35.149
Oh, Tallarico is disparaging the fact that we're

01:08:35.149 --> 01:08:38.010
going to have any kind of Christian content in

01:08:38.010 --> 01:08:40.909
public education. OK, so that is your takeaway.

01:08:41.210 --> 01:08:43.810
So what I did this morning, just this morning,

01:08:44.670 --> 01:08:47.750
and it's funny enough, you can use your AI for

01:08:47.750 --> 01:08:51.930
this. You'll say, AI, please go find the original

01:08:51.930 --> 01:08:55.689
video of this video that Josh Howerton is showing

01:08:55.689 --> 01:08:58.930
and show me what Talarico actually said and what

01:08:58.930 --> 01:09:02.250
he was asked. Now, I'm not going to vote for

01:09:02.250 --> 01:09:04.750
Talarico anytime soon. Thank you. But it's a

01:09:04.750 --> 01:09:07.770
lot more nuanced. And that's why I love this

01:09:07.770 --> 01:09:10.140
example, because We don't like this guy. We won't

01:09:10.140 --> 01:09:13.159
vote for this guy. But it's not exactly the Damian

01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:16.460
-esque thing about what Pastor Howerton is saying.

01:09:16.500 --> 01:09:18.279
And I don't think he knows either, because he

01:09:18.279 --> 01:09:22.979
didn't go for the original question and answer.

01:09:23.180 --> 01:09:25.079
Here it is. It would be extrapolated nationwide.

01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:27.899
Because I think sometimes people here, they want

01:09:27.899 --> 01:09:30.100
to display the Ten Commandments on school property.

01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:32.100
Well, what's the problem with that? It's just

01:09:32.100 --> 01:09:34.760
a display. Like, what's the big deal? So I'd

01:09:34.760 --> 01:09:36.500
really love if you could unpack that for our

01:09:36.500 --> 01:09:39.489
listeners. Yeah, you know you you said Bible

01:09:39.489 --> 01:09:41.989
studies earlier that would be one thing you know

01:09:41.989 --> 01:09:45.430
there there there are ways to Teach the Bible

01:09:45.430 --> 01:09:48.569
in an academic context in a public school setting

01:09:48.569 --> 01:09:52.449
As long as you approach it from a scholarly academic

01:09:52.449 --> 01:09:56.050
perspective and as long as you are Allowing students

01:09:56.050 --> 01:09:59.550
to study the holy texts of other religious traditions,

01:09:59.550 --> 01:10:03.319
right? We I believe that that public school students

01:10:03.319 --> 01:10:05.539
should learn about. By the way, I should mention

01:10:05.539 --> 01:10:09.159
this is from 2024. It's also two years old. Great

01:10:09.159 --> 01:10:11.960
faith traditions of the world. It's a critical

01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:15.920
part of engaging with other cultures, with entering

01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:20.880
into a global economy and being able to participate

01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:23.579
in a diverse democracy like we have here in Texas.

01:10:24.100 --> 01:10:29.100
My problem is when you slip from teaching to

01:10:29.100 --> 01:10:31.369
preaching. And again, I know the difference because

01:10:31.369 --> 01:10:34.369
I am both a former public school teacher and

01:10:34.369 --> 01:10:37.430
I'm also a current seminary student learning

01:10:37.430 --> 01:10:39.909
to become a minister. So I know that there is

01:10:39.909 --> 01:10:42.890
a difference between teaching and preaching.

01:10:44.090 --> 01:10:46.470
And Greg Abbott and other Republicans here in

01:10:46.470 --> 01:10:49.689
Texas are fond of saying that schools are for

01:10:49.689 --> 01:10:53.029
education, not indoctrination. And I completely

01:10:53.029 --> 01:10:57.029
agree. And my concern is that The way these Bible

01:10:57.029 --> 01:10:59.649
stories are being taught to very young students

01:10:59.649 --> 01:11:03.409
as historical fact, that becomes indoctrination.

01:11:03.869 --> 01:11:07.289
That no longer is education. Now, I don't agree

01:11:07.289 --> 01:11:09.270
with everything he's saying for obvious reasons.

01:11:09.289 --> 01:11:12.210
I'm there with you. But if you ever want to make

01:11:12.210 --> 01:11:16.130
an argument with somebody against Talarico, you

01:11:16.130 --> 01:11:18.529
can't use the Howerton abbreviation because you

01:11:18.529 --> 01:11:21.029
will lose because they will come back and say,

01:11:21.229 --> 01:11:23.829
that's not what he said. Here is what he said.

01:11:23.829 --> 01:11:27.359
He's not against. the Bible in schools. This

01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:30.159
is where we have to be careful. Even when we

01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:32.899
really want to agree, we really want to agree.

01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:36.460
I saw that clip in real time. I mean, I watched

01:11:36.460 --> 01:11:39.500
that podcast and I was just like, yeah, there

01:11:39.500 --> 01:11:42.579
it is. I mean, I literally just, I just didn't

01:11:42.579 --> 01:11:46.539
even question the veracity of that. And again,

01:11:46.890 --> 01:11:49.689
It's important if we want to be informed because

01:11:49.689 --> 01:11:51.930
the debate will come up and there'll be someone

01:11:51.930 --> 01:11:54.609
who saw this version and you're going to sound,

01:11:54.909 --> 01:11:56.130
you know what, you're never going to connect

01:11:56.130 --> 01:11:59.550
with that person. You're never going to connect

01:11:59.550 --> 01:12:04.199
on a human. loving intellectual right level because

01:12:04.199 --> 01:12:06.640
you and the music and remember it's like American

01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:12.119
society See the third right marching in the background

01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:15.220
and again, I like pastor Howerton I do too, but

01:12:15.220 --> 01:12:18.300
he spiked the ball I think in a very bad way

01:12:18.300 --> 01:12:21.260
and I don't think it's good that he does this

01:12:21.260 --> 01:12:25.479
wish there was a way to get this to him because

01:12:25.479 --> 01:12:28.640
He's the kind of guy and I know him also not

01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:31.619
from just being on a podcast, but as a pastor,

01:12:32.220 --> 01:12:34.640
that he's a guy of integrity. And if he knew,

01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:38.279
you know, what we're saying, I think he would

01:12:38.279 --> 01:12:41.640
back up on that. At least that clip. Well, remember,

01:12:42.579 --> 01:12:44.840
everything's about the midterms. I know. And

01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:47.300
so is Pastor Howerton. And to put this in perspective,

01:12:47.539 --> 01:12:51.020
especially if you're in Texas, there are 16 million

01:12:51.020 --> 01:12:54.979
Christians in Texas. people are assuming that

01:12:54.979 --> 01:12:57.659
Texas midterm race will be determined by five

01:12:57.659 --> 01:13:00.720
percentage points or less. So there are 16 million

01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:03.220
Christians in Texas, that race will be determined

01:13:03.220 --> 01:13:06.479
by less than 300 ,000 votes. So just to put it

01:13:06.479 --> 01:13:09.100
in perspective, like, honestly, if Christians

01:13:09.100 --> 01:13:12.920
vote, if Christians just do their job, evil loses

01:13:12.920 --> 01:13:18.359
every time. And the reason we do a podcast is,

01:13:18.539 --> 01:13:21.939
you know, honestly, I may be naive, I kind of

01:13:21.939 --> 01:13:23.720
think... I kind of think Live Free Nation can

01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:27.680
actually influence the dead gum thing. How many

01:13:27.680 --> 01:13:29.359
downloads a month are we at? Does anybody know?

01:13:30.020 --> 01:13:33.359
Yeah, no, just overall. Does anybody know? Just

01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:35.779
on Apple. So just on Apple last month, we had

01:13:35.779 --> 01:13:40.039
3 million downloads on Apple. Total all platforms,

01:13:40.460 --> 01:13:43.399
like 6 million. So just put that in perspective.

01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:47.460
Hey man, I think we can move a dang needle. Yeah,

01:13:47.460 --> 01:13:50.960
I think so. I think he has to be careful about

01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:54.779
this stuff. Because first of all, I don't think

01:13:54.779 --> 01:13:56.779
his stats are right. I don't think this is a

01:13:56.779 --> 01:14:00.439
300 ,000 person race in Texas. This is actually

01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:03.000
a Democratic Party talking point where it's always

01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:05.800
about to flip blue and it never even comes close.

01:14:07.359 --> 01:14:09.920
I think he has to be careful. Like, hey, this

01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:12.039
podcast is going to make us win. That's what

01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:15.420
I heard. I would never claim that. I don't care

01:14:15.420 --> 01:14:18.909
how big you are. I agree with that. It comes

01:14:18.909 --> 01:14:24.029
back to me to the world I'm in and what I want

01:14:24.029 --> 01:14:27.229
to walk in is theological integrity, cultural

01:14:27.229 --> 01:14:31.210
integrity, just pure honesty. And if we're winning,

01:14:31.770 --> 01:14:34.750
thank God, be excited. If we're not, then you

01:14:34.750 --> 01:14:38.270
know what I mean? There's a sense of can we do

01:14:38.270 --> 01:14:41.850
this right and still win? And I have to believe

01:14:41.850 --> 01:14:44.670
yes. Now I don't think he's being nefarious in

01:14:44.670 --> 01:14:47.979
any way because I do know him. And that's not

01:14:47.979 --> 01:14:51.659
his heart, but I think he's caught a real wave

01:14:51.659 --> 01:14:54.819
that's making him feel very powerful right now.

01:14:54.859 --> 01:14:58.260
And I don't mean that in a bad way. He has caught

01:14:58.260 --> 01:15:01.340
a wave. I mean, my gosh, the guy's exploding

01:15:01.340 --> 01:15:04.479
everywhere. And he's a sharp young man. I think

01:15:04.479 --> 01:15:08.779
he's 44 years of age and just way ahead of his

01:15:08.779 --> 01:15:13.340
age in terms of wisdom. But yeah, I think in

01:15:13.340 --> 01:15:16.460
real life, Cameras are on. Mocks are rolling.

01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:18.960
You're feeling very relaxed. Your best friends

01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:21.180
are there around you. We're all cheering and

01:15:21.180 --> 01:15:24.600
we can get excited about things. I think it's

01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:27.960
a cautionary thing to say, man, I love that guy

01:15:27.960 --> 01:15:30.239
and I won't stop watching because I do love Josh.

01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:33.579
But again, watching him like I would watch anybody

01:15:33.579 --> 01:15:35.560
and that is with a discerning heart. This is

01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:38.920
my point exactly. You can watch all kinds of

01:15:38.920 --> 01:15:40.979
people and you love them and you take it as the

01:15:40.979 --> 01:15:44.100
gospel. Because you agree with it and you want

01:15:44.100 --> 01:15:46.739
that to be true. Exactly. That's a good point,

01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:49.859
Adam. Exactly. Again, what you're doing is you're

01:15:49.859 --> 01:15:53.119
hearkening us back to integrity and honesty.

01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:55.600
And at the end of the day, let's just be real,

01:15:56.100 --> 01:15:58.159
all this stuff's going to burn. The only thing

01:15:58.159 --> 01:15:59.680
we're going to have is our relationship with

01:15:59.680 --> 01:16:02.640
God. And if we have not walked in integrity here,

01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:04.359
the last thing I want to hear when I get to heaven

01:16:04.359 --> 01:16:07.880
is, I was going to say, well done, good and faithful

01:16:07.880 --> 01:16:10.479
servant, but man. What were you doing there?

01:16:11.300 --> 01:16:14.159
You could have just thought critically a little

01:16:14.159 --> 01:16:16.000
more. And doesn't this come back to critical

01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:18.399
thinking that we've got to? Not criticizing.

01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:21.579
When I say critical thought, I don't mean you're

01:16:21.579 --> 01:16:25.119
just judging harshly everything, but you're trying

01:16:25.119 --> 01:16:29.800
to live life with your eyes wide open. For me,

01:16:30.060 --> 01:16:32.180
honestly, the only thing that helps me to have

01:16:32.180 --> 01:16:35.619
that clarity is God's Word, being saturated in

01:16:35.619 --> 01:16:38.899
it, being informed by it, understanding the context

01:16:38.899 --> 01:16:42.119
of the day and then the application for now.

01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:46.220
That's what keeps me alive and well. I think

01:16:46.220 --> 01:16:48.720
that's what keeps my head above water. It keeps

01:16:48.720 --> 01:16:51.800
me living up in a down world. keeps me having

01:16:51.800 --> 01:16:55.699
a mindset of, gosh, I get to do this from a positive

01:16:55.699 --> 01:16:58.699
mindset. But it also helps me realize, man, there's

01:16:58.699 --> 01:17:01.039
some real evil, real dark stuff going on out

01:17:01.039 --> 01:17:04.560
there. And, but God. But God, indeed. I'm going

01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:06.500
to end it with a but God. I'm not going to land

01:17:06.500 --> 01:17:10.939
on, oh no, the sky's falling. We're doomed. No.

01:17:10.960 --> 01:17:13.949
It's over. No, no, no. It's not over till it's

01:17:13.949 --> 01:17:16.390
over. God will have the final word. I've never

01:17:16.390 --> 01:17:20.649
been as positive as my life these past four years

01:17:20.649 --> 01:17:26.189
because I know who to be afraid of, who to fear,

01:17:26.310 --> 01:17:29.369
quote unquote. And I know God's got this, and

01:17:29.369 --> 01:17:32.109
I've completely surrendered everything. My life

01:17:32.109 --> 01:17:35.930
has changed dramatically in so many ways, even

01:17:35.930 --> 01:17:39.510
in the past two months. I'm like, God's got this.

01:17:39.770 --> 01:17:42.890
But I hope that we've shown people and given

01:17:42.890 --> 01:17:46.609
them some background as to what's really going

01:17:46.609 --> 01:17:50.789
on and how we got to this point and that nobody's

01:17:50.789 --> 01:17:54.270
in charge and everybody's in charge. And the

01:17:54.270 --> 01:17:57.970
only truth you can get is nowhere. It's only

01:17:57.970 --> 01:18:01.510
from your relationships with other people, your

01:18:01.510 --> 01:18:05.479
discernment. You have to really do research.

01:18:05.579 --> 01:18:07.680
I mean who has time for that? I don't have time

01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:11.560
for all of that. So you kind of have to see everything

01:18:11.560 --> 01:18:14.560
as entertainment and just question everything

01:18:14.560 --> 01:18:18.539
because even from the guys you love, it's not

01:18:18.539 --> 01:18:21.380
the exact true story. And that's well said, Adam.

01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:25.319
And I'm just always concerned that people forget

01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:28.960
that part. But I was here at the beginning, man.

01:18:29.079 --> 01:18:33.449
I had one of the first websites, MTV .com. And

01:18:33.449 --> 01:18:37.829
I saw it happen. I saw it all take place in the

01:18:37.829 --> 01:18:42.270
whole commercialization. But even when I was

01:18:42.270 --> 01:18:44.310
five years old, they were already thinking about

01:18:44.310 --> 01:18:47.210
how can we manipulate these networks? And oh

01:18:47.210 --> 01:18:50.170
goody, this Defense Advanced Research Project

01:18:50.170 --> 01:18:53.170
Agency built this global network and everybody's

01:18:53.170 --> 01:18:55.529
on it. Hey, we happen to know how you can make

01:18:55.529 --> 01:18:57.810
things work on this thing. In the early days,

01:18:58.069 --> 01:19:00.979
they were branding. They were grooming children.

01:19:01.260 --> 01:19:04.579
They made Pell -Mell gold candy cigarettes. And

01:19:04.579 --> 01:19:06.579
it looked just like your parents' cigarettes.

01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:10.720
They were just a piece of chalk or sugar. A piece

01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:13.899
of sugar, chunk of sugar. And kids would walk

01:19:13.899 --> 01:19:15.560
around with a fake cigarette in their mouth,

01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:19.460
building brand loyalty from the get -go generationally.

01:19:20.340 --> 01:19:23.720
And so this is not new, but it is definitely

01:19:23.720 --> 01:19:27.460
advanced in terms of the ability to get it out

01:19:27.460 --> 01:19:32.939
quicker. But the systems go back to 1929 and

01:19:32.939 --> 01:19:35.939
it's happening every single day for everything,

01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:40.319
usually to sell you a political agenda, an entertainment

01:19:40.319 --> 01:19:42.840
product, let's say entertainment product above

01:19:42.840 --> 01:19:46.600
all actually, political agenda and a pharmaceutical

01:19:46.600 --> 01:19:50.180
product. That's really what is being done here.

01:19:50.439 --> 01:19:52.659
I think there's three kinds of people when I

01:19:52.659 --> 01:19:54.920
think about something like this and it all starts

01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:58.020
with a V. There are victims, there are volunteers,

01:19:58.180 --> 01:20:00.220
and there are victors. Oh, I love that. So let's

01:20:00.220 --> 01:20:02.140
start with victim. The victim is legitimate.

01:20:02.699 --> 01:20:04.300
Something happened. They were betrayed. They

01:20:04.300 --> 01:20:06.500
were hurt. They were damaged. They were manipulated.

01:20:06.560 --> 01:20:09.000
I'm thinking in terms of marketing. They were

01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:14.020
manipulated and they drank the poison. Volunteer

01:20:14.020 --> 01:20:16.000
means there comes a point in a victim's life

01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:19.399
where they have to make a decision, I will no

01:20:19.399 --> 01:20:22.520
longer be a victim. But it may choose to be.

01:20:22.619 --> 01:20:25.600
So now they're a volunteer. Hmm. So there's the

01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:27.899
middle ground right? That's so you got to make

01:20:27.899 --> 01:20:30.779
that switch So when we're reading about dopamine,

01:20:30.779 --> 01:20:32.739
we're reading about addiction to the internet

01:20:32.739 --> 01:20:35.100
We're reading about all these things and we're

01:20:35.100 --> 01:20:37.640
still doing it. We're no longer a victim. We're

01:20:37.640 --> 01:20:40.460
now a volunteer Yeah, we because we're choosing

01:20:40.460 --> 01:20:44.020
to do it. Anyway, that's volunteer. Nobody's

01:20:44.020 --> 01:20:47.869
twisting my arm I know where the dopamine's coming

01:20:47.869 --> 01:20:50.229
from. I know how often I look at my phone. I'm

01:20:50.229 --> 01:20:51.630
going to have that cigarette. I'm going to have

01:20:51.630 --> 01:20:53.869
that cigarette. I know what it can do to me,

01:20:53.930 --> 01:20:57.109
but I'm going to have that smoke. The last one

01:20:57.109 --> 01:21:02.369
is victors. So you've got victim, volunteer,

01:21:02.810 --> 01:21:06.989
victor. A victor has the ability to know that

01:21:06.989 --> 01:21:10.069
real life change happens when you feel the pull

01:21:10.069 --> 01:21:15.430
and you choose obedience. Yes. Obedience over

01:21:15.430 --> 01:21:18.409
impulse. Yes, that was a great daily grind you

01:21:18.409 --> 01:21:21.569
had, choosing obedience over impulse. Do you

01:21:21.569 --> 01:21:23.289
remember the scripture you had to go with that?

01:21:23.329 --> 01:21:25.710
I do. I've got it right here, actually. And while

01:21:25.710 --> 01:21:28.229
you're looking for that, I'll add another V,

01:21:28.890 --> 01:21:30.729
value for value, because we are going to thank

01:21:30.729 --> 01:21:32.689
people for supporting us. Beautiful, beautiful.

01:21:32.869 --> 01:21:35.630
We'll end on that V. So here it is. It's Hebrews

01:21:35.630 --> 01:21:38.869
12 -11. It says, no discipline seems pleasant

01:21:38.869 --> 01:21:42.420
at the time. Later on, however, it produces a

01:21:42.420 --> 01:21:48.140
harvest of righteousness and peace. That's it.

01:21:48.979 --> 01:21:51.979
Put down your screens, pick up your scripture.

01:21:53.180 --> 01:21:58.739
It is so good. Just going back to the loneliness

01:21:58.739 --> 01:22:03.840
epidemic, this is what you're seeing. There's

01:22:03.840 --> 01:22:06.100
nothing left. Well, let me try this Bible thing.

01:22:06.859 --> 01:22:10.890
You're welcome. Come on in, come on in. The water

01:22:10.890 --> 01:22:13.829
literally, well... Our Duncan tank here isn't

01:22:13.829 --> 01:22:16.109
exactly warm. I mean, we have a heater in it,

01:22:16.109 --> 01:22:19.789
but it's still a little bit chilly. But the water's

01:22:19.789 --> 01:22:22.609
warm. Come on in, everybody. Man, thank you.

01:22:22.609 --> 01:22:25.489
That was good. I love those Vs, those three Vs.

01:22:25.590 --> 01:22:27.869
So we're going to thank people who've supported

01:22:27.869 --> 01:22:31.550
us. It's very simple. Value for value. At any

01:22:31.550 --> 01:22:33.109
point, you get value out of what we're doing

01:22:33.109 --> 01:22:34.930
here. We'd love for you to send that back. Time,

01:22:34.930 --> 01:22:38.289
talent, treasure. Your time and talent is a whole

01:22:38.289 --> 01:22:39.970
bunch of ways you can do that. Tell somebody

01:22:39.970 --> 01:22:43.779
about the podcast. Give us a boots on the ground.

01:22:43.960 --> 01:22:47.479
Tell us what's happening. New stories were open.

01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:52.659
Leave a comment. Also WGTDT .com is the website.

01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:55.319
I had to adjust it because, you know, we link

01:22:55.319 --> 01:22:58.020
it to our Substack. And Substack was kind of

01:22:58.020 --> 01:22:59.659
sometimes throwing up this little thing that

01:22:59.659 --> 01:23:02.699
says, hey, subscribe for $500. Like, hold on

01:23:02.699 --> 01:23:07.520
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01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:10.239
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01:23:10.239 --> 01:23:14.439
were getting confused. No, it is free, always,

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You could do whatever you want any time. We have

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PayPal, we have Venmo, all different ways to

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01:23:35.479 --> 01:23:39.680
we've got to come up with something for for people

01:23:39.680 --> 01:23:41.720
who are really supporting us with a lot of value.

01:23:42.039 --> 01:23:44.239
Like when we get to like a thousand, we got to

01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:47.439
have something. I'd love to send somebody something

01:23:47.439 --> 01:23:49.539
for doing that. I would love to do that. I have

01:23:49.539 --> 01:23:52.260
some ideas. Okay, good. We'll talk. Jill Holbrook

01:23:52.260 --> 01:23:56.039
comes in with $500 today. Aw man, Mark and Jill.

01:23:56.079 --> 01:23:58.500
Never leaves us a note, which I'd love for her

01:23:58.500 --> 01:24:02.550
to leave us a note, but also... An unknown GWS.

01:24:02.810 --> 01:24:06.250
I have no idea who GWS is. Can you think of who

01:24:06.250 --> 01:24:09.489
GWS is? No, but thank you, whoever you are. $500

01:24:09.489 --> 01:24:13.949
from GWS. You can hear Jill's voice on any of

01:24:13.949 --> 01:24:17.270
our church broadcasts. She's the loudest person

01:24:17.270 --> 01:24:22.880
in the room. Sorry about that. I have no idea,

01:24:23.020 --> 01:24:26.640
but let us know. We'd love to thank you. Brian

01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:30.260
Maloney sent us $100 and he sent a note to me.

01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:32.380
He said, read any parts or none at all. It was

01:24:32.380 --> 01:24:34.560
a very sweet note that he sent me. He says, keep

01:24:34.560 --> 01:24:37.119
your eyes on the Lord, not the storm. I love

01:24:37.119 --> 01:24:43.159
what you're up to. Esther Roden, 8888. I love

01:24:43.159 --> 01:24:45.399
the Get To Nation. Happy birthday, Adam. Thank

01:24:45.399 --> 01:24:50.930
you. That's September 3rd coming up. Grandbaby,

01:24:50.989 --> 01:24:54.350
a big squeeze, enjoy all the snuggles. Joseph

01:24:54.350 --> 01:24:58.810
Rojas comes in with our 77 .77 note, love that.

01:25:00.229 --> 01:25:03.210
Let's see, he says, I have the distinct honor

01:25:03.210 --> 01:25:05.609
of making the first ever value for value pickle

01:25:05.609 --> 01:25:11.739
laundering donation. Okay, I love pickles and

01:25:11.739 --> 01:25:14.100
hearing you both talk about Louisiana dill pickles

01:25:14.100 --> 01:25:16.739
Compelled me to reach out to Bo to see if I could

01:25:16.739 --> 01:25:19.779
get some now. This is fantastic It's Louisiana

01:25:19.779 --> 01:25:22.699
dill pickles at gmail .com Bo shared that he

01:25:22.699 --> 01:25:24.920
cannot sell across state lines But he still sent

01:25:24.920 --> 01:25:27.739
a jar for me in two jars to share to spread the

01:25:27.739 --> 01:25:30.479
good news in exchange He suggested a value for

01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:32.939
value pickle laundering donation till we get

01:25:32.939 --> 01:25:35.760
to do this I can attest the pickles are amazing.

01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:38.380
My donation is for the shipping charge both paid

01:25:38.380 --> 01:25:40.510
to ship the pickles a little more for the cool

01:25:40.510 --> 01:25:43.529
numerology. That's funny. God has been so glorious

01:25:43.529 --> 01:25:45.710
in connecting me to amazing people. Connecting

01:25:45.710 --> 01:25:48.130
me to Beau Lacoste is the best example in my

01:25:48.130 --> 01:25:50.529
life so far. More amazing than the pickles have

01:25:50.529 --> 01:25:53.189
been the conversation I've had and the connection

01:25:53.189 --> 01:25:55.659
I made with Beau. He is such an amazing person.

01:25:55.760 --> 01:25:57.439
I can say that he is the first person in my life

01:25:57.439 --> 01:26:00.060
to actually be interested in hearing my stories.

01:26:00.359 --> 01:26:02.600
Thank you, too, for an amazing podcast. Isn't

01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:04.859
that beautiful? That's awesome. Darius Walker,

01:26:05.060 --> 01:26:08.460
7714. Thank you, brother. We know he's a veteran.

01:26:09.020 --> 01:26:12.300
Is he a pastor? He is a pastor, yes. Very cool.

01:26:12.460 --> 01:26:14.479
Yeah, he's a pastor. Thank you for reminding

01:26:14.479 --> 01:26:17.779
me. No note further that I had that I could find

01:26:17.779 --> 01:26:20.399
from him. Todd Willimon, $50. Thank you, Todd.

01:26:21.020 --> 01:26:25.079
John Sbert, that's John's BRT, John Sbert. He's

01:26:25.079 --> 01:26:27.380
donated to all kinds of podcasts. $50, thank

01:26:27.380 --> 01:26:31.560
you, brother. Brian Albright, $50. He said, hey

01:26:31.560 --> 01:26:33.319
guys, you read my donation on the last show.

01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:35.520
I'm set up for monthly, and I'm pretty sure I

01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:37.600
also post on the Substack, but here is that note

01:26:37.600 --> 01:26:41.779
again if you want to read it. I agree with Adam

01:26:41.779 --> 01:26:44.420
that a change was coming. I was feeling it for

01:26:44.420 --> 01:26:46.279
him in the later No Agenda episodes. I could

01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:48.960
feel the change brewing. I had no idea God was

01:26:48.960 --> 01:26:50.920
going to make it so suddenly and definitely.

01:26:52.660 --> 01:26:55.939
Come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven."

01:26:55.939 --> 01:26:58.319
I'm very saddened by John C. Dvorak's passing,

01:26:58.600 --> 01:27:00.340
as I feel like I knew him since I was a kid,

01:27:00.619 --> 01:27:02.439
reading his articles and following all the way

01:27:02.439 --> 01:27:06.819
to no agenda. I know WGTDT is going to be huge.

01:27:06.920 --> 01:27:08.960
I've listened to every episode. I'm proud to

01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:10.939
support it. Look forward to continuing to grow

01:27:10.939 --> 01:27:13.779
in Christ with you both as we continue our walks

01:27:13.779 --> 01:27:17.159
and honestly talk about how the struggle is real

01:27:17.159 --> 01:27:19.760
and how with the Holy Spirit we can carry on.

01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:24.899
Wow, man, that is so nice. Thank you. Paul Erskine,

01:27:25.060 --> 01:27:28.319
$50. Thank you, Paul. And he says, apologies

01:27:28.319 --> 01:27:31.039
in advance, but it's a very long note. I'm going

01:27:31.039 --> 01:27:35.560
to edit it a little bit on the fly. He says,

01:27:35.560 --> 01:27:37.279
in the last show, there was a YouTube guy in

01:27:37.279 --> 01:27:39.699
Michigan who talked about, have you had a supernatural

01:27:39.699 --> 01:27:43.880
experience? I don't remember that. Oh, that was

01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:47.119
the street pastor talking to the Muslim girl.

01:27:47.119 --> 01:27:51.760
Oh, Lorenzo. Yes. which seem to imply that he

01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:54.140
has had those God experiences. Also, it accounts

01:27:54.140 --> 01:27:56.260
for people who have had Jesus approach them in

01:27:56.260 --> 01:27:58.420
their dreams. These are amazing experiences that

01:27:58.420 --> 01:28:00.760
people have had. What I don't understand is why

01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:03.039
I haven't seemed to have had that experience.

01:28:04.350 --> 01:28:07.130
I need you to comment in a moment. He says, well,

01:28:07.130 --> 01:28:09.109
that's not entirely true. There are two points

01:28:09.109 --> 01:28:11.409
I can remember that was probably God, but it

01:28:11.409 --> 01:28:14.109
wasn't a smack -me -in -the -face obvious experience

01:28:14.109 --> 01:28:17.149
like a burning bush, just two things that could

01:28:17.149 --> 01:28:23.090
be coincidences or God -cidences. He says, I'm

01:28:23.090 --> 01:28:25.130
clearly not as good as Pastor Jimmy at making

01:28:25.130 --> 01:28:27.750
words or phrases. Yes, I've been praying for

01:28:27.750 --> 01:28:30.250
God to show me the next step or push me or show

01:28:30.250 --> 01:28:33.760
me something. I think this is... so common that

01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:37.899
people want this aha moment. This is your territory,

01:28:37.899 --> 01:28:41.600
brother. Yeah. First Kings 1912, we see that

01:28:41.600 --> 01:28:44.880
Elijah was at Mount Horeb and he was in a real

01:28:44.880 --> 01:28:48.119
desperate position and he comes out to the edge

01:28:48.119 --> 01:28:52.779
of a cave. And it's interesting because he hears

01:28:52.779 --> 01:28:55.920
God's voice, but it wasn't in the thunder, it

01:28:55.920 --> 01:28:59.279
wasn't in the wind. He says this, and after the

01:28:59.279 --> 01:29:02.560
fire, and so there's thunder, Wind, fire, no

01:29:02.560 --> 01:29:06.119
God, but after the fire, a still small voice.

01:29:07.079 --> 01:29:09.180
That's how he heard. Another translation says,

01:29:09.199 --> 01:29:12.439
and after the fire came a gentle whisper. So

01:29:12.439 --> 01:29:15.500
I think those God nudges that he's feeling and

01:29:15.500 --> 01:29:19.020
sensing, that is God. I mean, rarely do I get

01:29:19.020 --> 01:29:21.760
a brick in the head. I probably need one, but

01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:24.680
rarely do I get that. It's usually a gentle whisper,

01:29:24.920 --> 01:29:27.439
a still small voice. So it's not always the fire.

01:29:27.520 --> 01:29:30.399
It's not always epic. You know, a relationship

01:29:30.399 --> 01:29:32.180
with anybody, your own wife, it's not always

01:29:32.180 --> 01:29:34.800
epic. It's just daily stuff. It's a conversation

01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:36.239
you have as you're getting ready, as you're making

01:29:36.239 --> 01:29:38.119
bed, as you're doing life, as you're getting

01:29:38.119 --> 01:29:40.000
ready to go out the door, things are said here

01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:44.520
and there. They're not epic, but they form a

01:29:44.520 --> 01:29:46.699
fabric of communication. And that's really what

01:29:46.699 --> 01:29:49.810
happens in our walk of God. So it's not the big

01:29:49.810 --> 01:29:52.890
things that are said, it's the 50 little things

01:29:52.890 --> 01:29:58.489
through the day. For me, it's like, it's that,

01:29:59.289 --> 01:30:01.869
I got to call that guy. Yeah. It just pops up.

01:30:01.869 --> 01:30:04.829
Just a thought. And I'm just always considering

01:30:04.829 --> 01:30:08.270
if something pops into my head, it probably wasn't

01:30:08.270 --> 01:30:10.489
me thinking about something. It just popped in

01:30:10.489 --> 01:30:13.329
because the Holy Spirit gave me to it, or somebody

01:30:13.329 --> 01:30:18.970
needs it. godly communication thing was working.

01:30:19.170 --> 01:30:21.210
I don't have to know how it works. So the pull

01:30:21.210 --> 01:30:25.949
you feel will be to... Maybe I'll do that later.

01:30:26.229 --> 01:30:30.109
And you put it off. And you forget. But what

01:30:30.109 --> 01:30:33.010
we have to do, life change happens when you feel

01:30:33.010 --> 01:30:36.170
the pull and you choose obedience over impulse.

01:30:36.439 --> 01:30:39.380
So the impulse is to just go, I'll do it later.

01:30:40.260 --> 01:30:42.699
And we mean well, but we don't necessarily follow

01:30:42.699 --> 01:30:44.699
up. For me, it's really those things. It's a

01:30:44.699 --> 01:30:47.140
very, very small thing. You're so right about

01:30:47.140 --> 01:30:50.899
that. And it never turned out bad. I should text

01:30:50.899 --> 01:30:52.560
this guy. I haven't heard from him in a while.

01:30:52.699 --> 01:30:54.260
I should just shoot a text to him. And you go,

01:30:54.380 --> 01:30:56.079
that's a great idea. And then you don't do it.

01:30:56.579 --> 01:30:58.840
But when you do it, the guy says, man, I was

01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:01.199
just having a bad day. It happens all the time.

01:31:01.220 --> 01:31:03.579
And you just really made my day. It's small things

01:31:03.579 --> 01:31:06.539
like that. Yeah. That's it. So I would say just

01:31:06.539 --> 01:31:09.079
as a word of counsel, quit looking for epic.

01:31:09.539 --> 01:31:11.520
Yeah. Don't look in the fire. Don't look in the

01:31:11.520 --> 01:31:14.119
thunder. Don't look in the wind. Look for the

01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:17.020
gentle, still, small voice. So I'm just going

01:31:17.020 --> 01:31:20.340
to finish here with, thank you, Rutherford, with

01:31:20.340 --> 01:31:24.560
Paul's note here, because, you know, he's really,

01:31:24.640 --> 01:31:27.340
yeah. He has the right question. He says, he

01:31:27.340 --> 01:31:29.279
winds up, maybe I'm not ready to take the next

01:31:29.279 --> 01:31:31.739
step in faith, so he's waiting on me. I think

01:31:31.739 --> 01:31:33.760
I'm ready, but maybe I'm not. My current plan

01:31:33.760 --> 01:31:35.880
is to keep showing up. Yes. What a great guy.

01:31:36.239 --> 01:31:38.260
There's not really a cohesive question here.

01:31:38.260 --> 01:31:40.239
I'm not really even sure why I'm writing to you.

01:31:40.779 --> 01:31:43.340
We understand your question completely, brother.

01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:45.680
Maybe there's something here that God will put

01:31:45.680 --> 01:31:47.500
on your heart to speak about on the show. Yes,

01:31:47.500 --> 01:31:52.220
Paul. And that's it. The scariest moment in my

01:31:52.220 --> 01:31:54.720
life, which I was not afraid of at all, was going

01:31:54.720 --> 01:31:58.220
on Joe Rogan and saying, man, I looked at all

01:31:58.220 --> 01:32:01.560
the conspiracies and I finally checked out this

01:32:01.560 --> 01:32:04.479
Jesus thing and this God thing and like, sorry,

01:32:04.920 --> 01:32:08.159
it's true because there's too much written about

01:32:08.159 --> 01:32:10.960
it. There's too much going on with this. I can't

01:32:10.960 --> 01:32:13.520
believe I ignored it all my life. And you know

01:32:13.520 --> 01:32:15.579
what didn't happen? People didn't come after

01:32:15.579 --> 01:32:17.840
me and throw bricks at me and tell me I'm a nut

01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:21.520
job. Opposite happen. People came out of the

01:32:21.520 --> 01:32:24.460
woodwork. Decloked. Decloked in front of me.

01:32:24.779 --> 01:32:28.100
Rock and rollers who I had no idea. Rudy Sarzo.

01:32:28.300 --> 01:32:30.600
I love that. I mean, the most unbelievable people

01:32:30.600 --> 01:32:33.380
have just come in. And that's your community,

01:32:33.640 --> 01:32:38.119
man. That's it. You're lonely? Join us. It's

01:32:38.119 --> 01:32:40.659
a big club. And you're welcome in it, unlike

01:32:40.659 --> 01:32:44.359
what George Carlin would say. So good. $19 .48

01:32:44.359 --> 01:32:48.159
from Dr. Graham Brian Bishko. Thank you, sir.

01:32:48.300 --> 01:32:51.640
Thank you. Kevin Hallisey, $10, twice a week.

01:32:52.100 --> 01:32:54.420
Love your perspectives, twice a week. Oh, please.

01:32:54.720 --> 01:32:56.859
He says, twice a week, please. Yes. Working on

01:32:56.859 --> 01:32:59.220
it, brother. Appreciate it. Love the perspectives

01:32:59.220 --> 01:33:02.119
and the conversations. We feel like we're all

01:33:02.119 --> 01:33:04.640
at the barbecue. Oh, I love that. That's what

01:33:04.640 --> 01:33:06.840
we want people to feel. You're in the conversation.

01:33:07.100 --> 01:33:09.560
Sharing the joys of getting to do this, praying

01:33:09.560 --> 01:33:14.899
as I drive 100. Easy, brother. Maybe it's Highway

01:33:14.899 --> 01:33:17.680
100. Nicholas Stark, $5. Thank you very much.

01:33:17.880 --> 01:33:21.500
Dwayne Spellman, Jr., $153. And the final, and

01:33:21.500 --> 01:33:25.159
whoever sent me this, Larry Ice, Galatians, Freedom

01:33:25.159 --> 01:33:26.300
from, have you ever seen this? Larry Ice is a

01:33:26.300 --> 01:33:29.399
great guy. I know Larry. It's a 61 -day study,

01:33:29.619 --> 01:33:31.539
Freedom from Religious Slavery. He's a good guy.

01:33:31.779 --> 01:33:33.800
See, I brought this here because I want to show

01:33:33.800 --> 01:33:36.220
everything to my pastor brother over here. And

01:33:36.220 --> 01:33:37.579
when he says, yeah, that's good. Okay. Yeah,

01:33:37.579 --> 01:33:40.720
Larry's great. Good brother. We got a $5 check

01:33:40.720 --> 01:33:44.319
and we love checks in the PO box. Checks, by

01:33:44.319 --> 01:33:47.699
the way, is something so, only in America. Only

01:33:47.699 --> 01:33:51.619
in America do we trust. It is like, I'm giving

01:33:51.619 --> 01:33:54.199
you this and you're going to trust me that that

01:33:54.199 --> 01:33:56.699
check is good. It's not going to bounce. It's

01:33:56.699 --> 01:34:00.140
personal. It's written by hand. And people always

01:34:00.140 --> 01:34:02.640
laugh at me. You're so old fashioned. We have

01:34:02.640 --> 01:34:06.640
Vin Moon. Also no fees for checks. I think it's

01:34:06.640 --> 01:34:09.300
maybe five cents or something, some processing

01:34:09.300 --> 01:34:12.359
fee. I love checks. I just do. And this was sent

01:34:12.359 --> 01:34:16.720
by Cameron Knapp. Hello, Adam and Pastor Jimmy.

01:34:16.840 --> 01:34:19.539
Enclosed is a $5 check. I'm hoping to continue

01:34:19.539 --> 01:34:21.479
doing this as a monthly donation. I've set up

01:34:21.479 --> 01:34:24.319
a monthly reminder to do this. Thank you so much.

01:34:25.899 --> 01:34:28.520
Now, she's listened to No Agenda since my Joe

01:34:28.520 --> 01:34:31.560
Rogan appearance in 2021. She's only donated

01:34:31.560 --> 01:34:33.640
once the show. I regret it now that John has

01:34:33.640 --> 01:34:35.619
passed. I'll likely donate monthly to No Agenda

01:34:35.619 --> 01:34:38.109
as well. The community within No Agenda was so

01:34:38.109 --> 01:34:40.989
much larger and tighter than I could have realized.

01:34:41.090 --> 01:34:42.770
It wasn't until recently, with the outpouring

01:34:42.770 --> 01:34:44.689
of love, prayers, and meetups, I realized how

01:34:44.689 --> 01:34:47.189
special it is. I'm sure this community will be

01:34:47.189 --> 01:34:50.010
just as great." There's a huge overlap. Now,

01:34:50.029 --> 01:34:54.829
she's had a lot of tragedy since 2009, 19. Her

01:34:54.829 --> 01:35:00.229
father passed in 2019. In 2017, when he was diagnosed,

01:35:02.700 --> 01:35:05.399
His father died, his mother's father's died,

01:35:05.560 --> 01:35:08.100
his wife's grandmother died. I mean, the last

01:35:08.100 --> 01:35:09.720
three weeks of my father's life is something

01:35:09.720 --> 01:35:12.100
I'll never forget. This is where I began believing

01:35:12.100 --> 01:35:16.979
in God. On his deathbed, he had a terminal lucidity

01:35:16.979 --> 01:35:19.819
moment. He was completely coherent, and although

01:35:19.819 --> 01:35:22.699
his face was half paralyzed, he was able to speak

01:35:22.699 --> 01:35:25.479
to me. His last words to me were, I saw the same

01:35:25.479 --> 01:35:28.720
thing grandpa saw. I have to find my way. Wow.

01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:31.560
I bring this up because despite believing in

01:35:31.560 --> 01:35:33.880
Jesus Christ and God at that moment, I have not

01:35:33.880 --> 01:35:36.760
gone to church. I always felt uncomfortable at

01:35:36.760 --> 01:35:38.680
church when I attended with friends growing up,

01:35:38.880 --> 01:35:41.460
Catholic, Methodist, Lutheran, non -denominational.

01:35:41.920 --> 01:35:44.739
I feel like I'd be judged a lot for some reason.

01:35:45.180 --> 01:35:47.180
I'm sure they are all great people, I just can't

01:35:47.180 --> 01:35:49.619
bring myself to attend. I would like to someday,

01:35:49.699 --> 01:35:51.899
since we have two young girls and a third child

01:35:51.899 --> 01:35:54.220
on the way in this crazy world, I really want

01:35:54.220 --> 01:35:56.279
them to grow up loving God and following the

01:35:56.279 --> 01:35:58.520
path of Christ, which will help guide them once

01:35:58.520 --> 01:36:00.500
they grow up and move out onto their own. So

01:36:00.500 --> 01:36:03.319
I've been trying to read the Bible. I like the

01:36:03.319 --> 01:36:05.520
King James Version, but it's hard to read and

01:36:05.520 --> 01:36:10.239
understand. Doth not sayeth so. Elizabethan English.

01:36:11.220 --> 01:36:13.600
It's hard for me to understand. So now I'm reading

01:36:13.600 --> 01:36:17.260
the new King James Version. I'm reading front

01:36:17.260 --> 01:36:19.060
to back, but I feel like there's a better way

01:36:19.060 --> 01:36:21.619
to read this and digest it. What are your suggestions?

01:36:22.119 --> 01:36:24.840
An app would be easier, but I feel like I just

01:36:24.840 --> 01:36:27.180
feel like reading text sinks in better if that

01:36:27.180 --> 01:36:29.720
makes sense. Anyway, I appreciate this new show.

01:36:29.720 --> 01:36:31.960
I look forward to every week and I feel like

01:36:31.960 --> 01:36:35.460
it's helping me find my way. Your advice? Yeah,

01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:39.119
start with the book of John, the book of John.

01:36:39.520 --> 01:36:42.020
John was one of the closest disciples to Jesus.

01:36:42.479 --> 01:36:45.979
Even John called himself the disciple Jesus loved.

01:36:47.439 --> 01:36:49.840
He was so humble. So humble about it, you know.

01:36:50.279 --> 01:36:52.800
There's a great clip from The Chosen where Jesus

01:36:52.800 --> 01:36:55.279
and Nicodemus are meeting and John's off to the

01:36:55.279 --> 01:36:57.319
side. Writing, writing, writing. And Andrew starts

01:36:57.319 --> 01:36:59.420
to say something. He goes, shh, shh, shh. He's

01:36:59.420 --> 01:37:00.960
like, shut up. I'm trying to write all this down.

01:37:01.279 --> 01:37:03.779
So it's just a great. Should she read it in New

01:37:03.779 --> 01:37:06.100
King James or should she try a different translation?

01:37:06.199 --> 01:37:08.579
Well, I mean, she just had, she's using a physical

01:37:08.579 --> 01:37:10.779
Bible and that's what she's got. New King James

01:37:10.779 --> 01:37:14.699
is great. It was, that came out I think in 1981.

01:37:15.310 --> 01:37:17.750
And it's one I've used for a long time, but I'm

01:37:17.750 --> 01:37:21.729
really more partial to, if I'm reading like narratively,

01:37:21.810 --> 01:37:24.289
like just trying to read a bulk of scripture,

01:37:24.949 --> 01:37:30.010
like from the NLT, the New Living Translations,

01:37:30.130 --> 01:37:33.270
really good. It's idea for idea, not word for

01:37:33.270 --> 01:37:36.770
word, but well done. And it's more of a narrative

01:37:36.770 --> 01:37:41.250
flow, especially in the Old Testament. It depends

01:37:41.250 --> 01:37:46.350
on the person. I use Small tablet, you know,

01:37:46.369 --> 01:37:49.010
I use an iPad mini and and I use that a lot because

01:37:49.010 --> 01:37:51.409
I use a lot of different translations Right,

01:37:51.409 --> 01:37:53.510
right because I'm always jumping back and forth

01:37:53.510 --> 01:37:56.250
Probably my favorite all -around translation

01:37:56.250 --> 01:37:59.090
is the ESV. It's called the English standard

01:37:59.090 --> 01:38:04.010
version. It's one of the best In between where

01:38:04.010 --> 01:38:08.350
you've got good narrative flow More modern English,

01:38:08.350 --> 01:38:11.590
but a little bit of the classic feel so it's

01:38:11.590 --> 01:38:15.319
really a good and very scholarly translation,

01:38:15.439 --> 01:38:18.420
one of the better, for sure. Wesley Hough, you

01:38:18.420 --> 01:38:21.439
know, he rated translations, ESV was at the top.

01:38:22.140 --> 01:38:23.720
And so I would agree with that. So start in the

01:38:23.720 --> 01:38:25.560
book of John though, because that book of John,

01:38:25.680 --> 01:38:27.739
I was talking to Tina about this note and she

01:38:27.739 --> 01:38:30.529
said, man, they should whoever it is, start with

01:38:30.529 --> 01:38:33.069
the New Testament. It just gets you into it.

01:38:33.109 --> 01:38:34.750
You know, it's an E because we're new. You know,

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this is very new for us. Like flowing into the

01:38:37.930 --> 01:38:40.550
New Testament first. I mean, that gives you a

01:38:40.550 --> 01:38:43.189
good start. When I was a new Christian at 18,

01:38:43.210 --> 01:38:45.930
19 years of age, I started with the Sermon on

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the Mount in Matthew chapter five. Yeah, the

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Beatitudes. Because that's where Jesus is talking

01:38:50.210 --> 01:38:52.529
direct. It's all red. It's all the red stuff

01:38:52.529 --> 01:38:54.729
in the Bible. Read the red, pray for the power.

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You know, that's what we say. I also want to

01:38:56.630 --> 01:38:59.890
say to this amazing Gosh, thank you for that

01:38:59.890 --> 01:39:04.010
letter. Cameron, I want to give you an easy on

01:39:04.010 --> 01:39:06.869
-ramp for church. First of all, we're always

01:39:06.869 --> 01:39:09.470
going to direct people to a local church, find

01:39:09.470 --> 01:39:11.550
a local church, but we also recognize it's hard

01:39:11.550 --> 01:39:13.770
to do, especially if you're in another country.

01:39:14.189 --> 01:39:18.270
It's just hard to find good Bible believing evangelical

01:39:18.270 --> 01:39:20.850
type churches. But I want to give you an easy

01:39:20.850 --> 01:39:23.489
on -ramp. And in the meantime, and this is only

01:39:23.489 --> 01:39:26.250
an on -ramp, not a permanent thing, is go to

01:39:26.250 --> 01:39:31.270
bridgefbg .com. And every Sunday morning, we

01:39:31.270 --> 01:39:34.130
have all of our messages archived with me and

01:39:34.130 --> 01:39:37.489
Pastor Brian teaching and preaching. And we even

01:39:37.489 --> 01:39:39.189
have the worship on there if you want to watch

01:39:39.189 --> 01:39:41.609
that part as well. But you can also watch it

01:39:41.609 --> 01:39:43.970
live in real time, depending on where you are.

01:39:44.350 --> 01:39:48.470
9 a .m. It's live at Central Standard Time, Texas

01:39:48.470 --> 01:39:52.159
time. Central Standard Time, 9 a .m. It's live.

01:39:52.260 --> 01:39:54.039
And you can get that on YouTube. You can get

01:39:54.039 --> 01:39:58.399
it on our website, bridgefbg .com, or on Facebook.

01:39:58.560 --> 01:40:01.479
And the Godcaster runs the audio. Yeah, they

01:40:01.479 --> 01:40:04.899
run the audio stream of it. So there's four formats

01:40:04.899 --> 01:40:07.340
right there that you can get it live, or you

01:40:07.340 --> 01:40:09.340
can go back and watch and listen to the archives.

01:40:09.539 --> 01:40:11.399
And here's the three things that you'll hear.

01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:14.359
You'll hear, go on preacher! That's Mel. Then

01:40:14.359 --> 01:40:18.430
you'll hear, woo! That's Jill. Amen. That's me.

01:40:20.390 --> 01:40:22.029
That's what you're going to hear because it's

01:40:22.029 --> 01:40:23.829
that good and it's that awesome. Naomi says,

01:40:23.909 --> 01:40:27.090
good. That's good. So everybody's got their little

01:40:27.090 --> 01:40:30.189
thing. That's good. That's good. What a great

01:40:30.189 --> 01:40:31.829
crowd. I'm saying that to you because that's

01:40:31.829 --> 01:40:33.970
an easy on -ramp where you're going to see a

01:40:33.970 --> 01:40:36.609
familiar face and hear a familiar voice, but

01:40:36.609 --> 01:40:39.710
also we want you to find a local church, but

01:40:39.710 --> 01:40:41.710
maybe this will give you a template to help you

01:40:41.710 --> 01:40:44.430
do that. And that's it. Thank you, everybody.

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Can I read my daily grind for today? Because

01:40:46.710 --> 01:40:49.529
it really ties up into a bow. Yes, please. Because

01:40:49.529 --> 01:40:53.270
I was informed by the topics you sent me in conversation.

01:40:54.029 --> 01:40:57.369
Isaiah 8 -12 again, do not call conspiracy everything

01:40:57.369 --> 01:41:00.489
that these people call conspiracy. Do not fear

01:41:00.489 --> 01:41:03.850
what they fear and do not dread it. Again, Isaiah

01:41:03.850 --> 01:41:07.510
8 -12 and the NIV. The Daily Grind, today's Daily

01:41:07.510 --> 01:41:11.050
Grind title is Breaking News or the Good News?

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If you think that the days we live in are rife

01:41:14.420 --> 01:41:17.060
with conspiracy theories and misinformation like

01:41:17.060 --> 01:41:20.500
never before, you would be wrong. The Bible addresses

01:41:20.500 --> 01:41:23.279
this issue head on, all the way back to the Old

01:41:23.279 --> 01:41:27.159
Testament. It is a stark warning not to jump

01:41:27.159 --> 01:41:30.279
on the conspiracy theory bandwagon and not to

01:41:30.279 --> 01:41:32.699
fear what they fear or dread what they dread.

01:41:33.119 --> 01:41:35.819
The context tells us that we are to have a holy

01:41:35.819 --> 01:41:39.710
and reverent fear of God. So, for today, Do you

01:41:39.710 --> 01:41:42.670
find yourself doom -scrolling, spun up and spun

01:41:42.670 --> 01:41:45.810
out over the latest breaking news alerts? Put

01:41:45.810 --> 01:41:48.850
down your screen and pick up your Bible. Prayer.

01:41:49.430 --> 01:41:52.810
Father, forgive me for defaulting to news feeds,

01:41:53.229 --> 01:41:56.270
notifications, and breaking news over intentional

01:41:56.270 --> 01:42:00.189
time in the Word and prayer. I reject the spirit

01:42:00.189 --> 01:42:04.289
of fear and receive your peace. In Jesus' name,

01:42:04.590 --> 01:42:08.279
amen. I love it, brother. Thank you so much.

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It's a joy.