WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.299 Father, what a privilege it is to be together 00:00:02.299 --> 00:00:05.820 today to share, to catch up, to talk about what's 00:00:05.820 --> 00:00:08.140 been going on, not just in this world, but in 00:00:08.140 --> 00:00:11.000 our own hearts as well. We pray for our listeners 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:14.679 today, our friends, people that are part of the 00:00:14.679 --> 00:00:19.039 get -to nation. We pray for them, Lord, and we 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:22.059 pray for their hearts as well. Lord, the world 00:00:22.059 --> 00:00:25.300 is assaulting their hearts and trying to grab 00:00:25.300 --> 00:00:28.219 their attention for everything like a dumpster 00:00:28.219 --> 00:00:31.059 fire. So, Lord, we pray for the peace that passes 00:00:31.059 --> 00:00:33.759 all understanding to guard and garrison our hearts 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:36.740 and our minds in Christ Jesus, in Jesus' name. 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:41.299 Amen. Amen. It's Wednesday, August 12th, 2026. 00:00:41.380 --> 00:00:44.759 We get to do this. This is episode number 45. 00:01:00.009 --> 00:01:04.090 we get to do this oh yeah we do hello brother 00:01:04.090 --> 00:01:06.609 welcome back thank you do you notice now when 00:01:06.609 --> 00:01:09.510 we see each other and we're we're getting set 00:01:09.510 --> 00:01:11.250 ready for the show that we're kind of not really 00:01:11.250 --> 00:01:15.560 talking Absolutely. Absolutely. I got stuff to 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:18.340 say. Save it. I don't want anything to roll out 00:01:18.340 --> 00:01:20.739 before the show. Don't say anything. I know. 00:01:20.739 --> 00:01:22.439 I love it. And I want to say hello to everyone 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:25.459 coming in from No Agenda, those who are believers, 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:29.040 those who are coming back to their faith. The 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:32.040 Christ Curious. Ooh, I like that. Yeah, this 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:34.299 hit me this morning. Nice spin. Holy Spirit gave 00:01:34.299 --> 00:01:38.019 me Christ Curious. Ooh, jot that down. That's 00:01:38.019 --> 00:01:43.180 good. Yeah. Oh, man. What a week it's been. You've 00:01:43.180 --> 00:01:48.900 had a week. You've been on an adventure and it's 00:01:48.900 --> 00:01:52.780 heavy lifting. It has been. So we went to San 00:01:52.780 --> 00:01:55.280 Francisco, this is for John C. Dvorak's memorial. 00:01:56.819 --> 00:02:00.140 We got in Friday, the memorial's on Saturday. 00:02:00.420 --> 00:02:03.239 So really like for 24 hours, I'm just, because 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:05.319 I was going to speak, I was asked to say something, 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:09.699 so I'm kind of all keyed up about that. Seeing 00:02:09.699 --> 00:02:12.659 the family, people came in from the Netherlands, 00:02:12.979 --> 00:02:16.300 from Tokyo, from all over the country just to 00:02:16.300 --> 00:02:21.539 be there. From Tennessee. Patrick Cobol from 00:02:21.539 --> 00:02:25.080 Tennessee, from Los Angeles, just from everywhere. 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:30.979 There were people there who I'd only heard of 00:02:30.979 --> 00:02:34.699 because I know their names from the old Osborne 00:02:34.699 --> 00:02:39.409 computer days, from the old DOS. PC telecommunications 00:02:39.409 --> 00:02:41.710 days, you know that because John had written 00:02:41.710 --> 00:02:45.009 I don't like 36 books or something so he had 00:02:45.009 --> 00:02:47.729 a lot of you know, a lot of that going on but 00:02:47.729 --> 00:02:53.129 really the things that were great is that Everybody 00:02:53.129 --> 00:02:57.150 well two things everybody Had a story about how 00:02:57.150 --> 00:03:00.469 he had helped them in their career one way or 00:03:00.469 --> 00:03:05.199 another Everybody agreed completely on his gruffness 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:10.199 and his lack of seeming human candor. But the 00:03:10.199 --> 00:03:15.180 thing that really struck me, and one guy who 00:03:15.180 --> 00:03:17.439 would work with John on the book side had mentioned 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:21.860 it, and I knew this inherently, is that his criticism, 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:24.300 which you could see as like, just like, man, 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:28.340 you're such a, you're mean. Why are you saying 00:03:28.340 --> 00:03:31.699 this to me? you know, his criticism of technology, 00:03:31.819 --> 00:03:33.979 like, you know, there's no evidence anybody wants 00:03:33.979 --> 00:03:38.960 to use a mouse. The Apple watch is no good. He 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:41.180 really, and of course at the time when he said 00:03:41.180 --> 00:03:43.479 these things, they were true. He's, you know, 00:03:43.699 --> 00:03:46.159 excoriated me for things that I've done or said. 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:50.080 He really only was doing that to make things 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:53.180 better, to make people do better, to have tech 00:03:53.180 --> 00:03:57.419 companies do better. And I knew that, but you 00:03:57.419 --> 00:03:59.020 know, have someone actually say it. I'm like, 00:03:59.069 --> 00:04:01.210 Yeah. Wow. That is true. Cause he could have 00:04:01.210 --> 00:04:04.229 been extremely wealthy consulting, working for 00:04:04.229 --> 00:04:06.969 companies, but instead he just drove people to 00:04:06.969 --> 00:04:08.849 do better because he thought that it was not 00:04:08.849 --> 00:04:11.110 good enough. Wow. And that was, that was really 00:04:11.110 --> 00:04:13.629 nice. Yeah. His line, that's no good. I mean, 00:04:13.789 --> 00:04:18.050 that's, that's classic John Dvorak. I love it. 00:04:18.849 --> 00:04:22.170 weight dropped off of me, I would say, and just 00:04:22.170 --> 00:04:24.689 being with the family, you know, we had to figure, 00:04:24.829 --> 00:04:26.610 we had to go to the bank and sit there for three 00:04:26.610 --> 00:04:29.610 hours to avoid probates. It's not, you know, 00:04:29.610 --> 00:04:32.509 people get your affairs in order. It really sucks 00:04:32.509 --> 00:04:36.050 for people after the fact to go and fix stuff. 00:04:37.389 --> 00:04:39.750 That's heavy lifting. That's emotional. It was 00:04:39.750 --> 00:04:42.470 heavy lifting because too, you're feeling the 00:04:42.470 --> 00:04:44.410 weight of all the folks that are coming. I mean, 00:04:44.470 --> 00:04:47.579 anytime we come to a celebration of life, you 00:04:47.579 --> 00:04:50.639 know, memorial service or a funeral, it's heavy 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:52.620 lifting because there's just weight in the room. 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:54.800 You know, people are grieving, people are going 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:57.639 through that. But there's also the celebration 00:04:57.639 --> 00:04:59.699 of life side where you get to tell the funny 00:04:59.699 --> 00:05:02.399 things and the good things. It's life giving 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:05.000 too. So it's all that's hitting you at the same 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:06.779 time. So it is heavy lifting. And there were 00:05:06.779 --> 00:05:09.709 comedians there, myself. kind of included, I'll 00:05:09.709 --> 00:05:11.649 just add myself a little bit. But, you know, 00:05:11.649 --> 00:05:14.889 he had a lot of comedian friends, his wife Mimi, 00:05:14.949 --> 00:05:17.769 she came from the comedy world. I didn't know 00:05:17.769 --> 00:05:20.550 that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She worked early on with 00:05:20.550 --> 00:05:24.810 Robin Williams, a lot of the greats. And so there 00:05:24.810 --> 00:05:26.990 were some funny people. You see, you know, some 00:05:26.990 --> 00:05:29.629 78 year old guy getting up there and all of a 00:05:29.629 --> 00:05:31.290 sudden he's doing shtick. It's like, oh, wow. 00:05:31.470 --> 00:05:35.350 Okay. A pro, an old pro. Old pros. That's cool. 00:05:36.009 --> 00:05:40.170 Yeah. So it was, The thing that was kind of interesting 00:05:40.170 --> 00:05:42.129 is, you know, so all these people were speaking 00:05:42.129 --> 00:05:44.490 in this beautiful chapel, this 100 -year -old 00:05:44.490 --> 00:05:49.750 chapel in Oakland, just beautiful stained glass, 00:05:49.910 --> 00:05:53.689 wooden pews, not really big. And, you know, as 00:05:53.689 --> 00:05:56.910 I was talking just in general about how I got 00:05:56.910 --> 00:05:59.610 at the end of my speech, how I got saved and 00:05:59.610 --> 00:06:01.269 how John just thought that would be great for 00:06:01.269 --> 00:06:06.310 the show. And I'm like, I just want to pray over 00:06:06.310 --> 00:06:09.490 everybody here. And because no one mentioned 00:06:09.490 --> 00:06:12.709 God, no one was doing any of that. And what came 00:06:12.709 --> 00:06:14.550 out of my mouth was kind of interesting because 00:06:14.550 --> 00:06:18.149 I said, let's bow our heads. This is interesting. 00:06:18.610 --> 00:06:21.329 When you say that, almost everyone's head went 00:06:21.329 --> 00:06:25.569 down. Yeah, they do. Out of respect. But it was 00:06:25.569 --> 00:06:28.569 like Pavlovian almost. It's like it's built into 00:06:28.569 --> 00:06:32.519 their system. I was like, oh, wow. OK. And then 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:35.540 I just prayed for everyone to be lifted up. Beautiful. 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:40.720 And that kind of ended the era. And now we move 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:43.779 on to the new season, which, of course, a big 00:06:43.779 --> 00:06:45.860 part of that is we get to do this, brother. And 00:06:45.860 --> 00:06:48.980 we do get to do this. I am so excited. I'm so 00:06:48.980 --> 00:06:52.240 excited. I say it 50 times a day, not because 00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:54.660 it's a podcast title. It's just innate. It's 00:06:54.660 --> 00:06:57.519 in me. I can't. I'm so grateful. When you live 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:00.899 a grateful life, Things like living up in a down 00:07:00.899 --> 00:07:03.279 world. I'm living up in a down world. I get to 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:05.779 do this These things become natural for you. 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:08.879 Yeah, but also neurologically they drive something 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:12.459 into you Oh, yeah, and they build upon and over 00:07:12.459 --> 00:07:16.360 time it becomes your whole perception and perspective 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:19.139 To where now you're saying it to people who are 00:07:19.139 --> 00:07:20.839 going. Oh, I've never thought of that before 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:22.600 Yeah, I mean cuz I never heard it before. Yeah, 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:25.959 we do this right our whole staff says it I mean 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:29.160 it's hilarious for me to hear it coming back. 00:07:29.459 --> 00:07:31.819 Cause I know it's getting in the culture. I get, 00:07:31.819 --> 00:07:34.000 you know, recordings and clips from people of 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:36.879 someone else just saying, you know, well, you 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:38.980 know, we really get to do this and like, Oh, 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:41.100 I caught it. I caught it. So it's kind of out 00:07:41.100 --> 00:07:45.000 there now when last week you had not yet gone 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:48.879 to the first of your two meets. MEAT ups for 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:50.779 healing humanity. So I want to hear how they 00:07:50.779 --> 00:07:52.540 went. It was Dallas and Austin, right? Dallas 00:07:52.540 --> 00:07:55.040 and Austin. We drove to Austin, flew to Dallas, 00:07:55.519 --> 00:07:57.399 man. Favor all along the way. You know, you and 00:07:57.399 --> 00:08:00.500 I, when we travel, we always pray for each other 00:08:00.500 --> 00:08:03.019 for travel favor and grace. You know, just open 00:08:03.019 --> 00:08:06.240 doors. And we always pray for each other for 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:08.800 an awareness of what's happening on the journey 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:11.180 as opposed to just the destination. Yes. Because 00:08:11.180 --> 00:08:15.519 to me, traveling is about who you're helping 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:18.439 at the airport. We're bumping into striking a 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:20.600 conversation with absolutely somebody sitting 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:23.240 on a plane or whose luggage you helping stuff 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:25.839 in a bin And it's there's so many opportunities 00:08:25.839 --> 00:08:28.319 to light candles. Yeah, you know and just do 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:31.439 good I mean be good do good, you know scripture 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:34.179 says this that you know You don't don't be overcome 00:08:34.179 --> 00:08:37.440 by evil but overcome evil with good Yes, and 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:40.259 so while the world waxes darker and worse we 00:08:40.259 --> 00:08:42.860 can be good and and we do it from the perspective 00:08:42.860 --> 00:08:45.799 of of the gift of the Holy Spirit. Actually, 00:08:45.820 --> 00:08:48.259 a fruit of the Spirit is goodness. So we just 00:08:48.259 --> 00:08:50.679 do it and we honor God in it. So I love the journey. 00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:53.539 I'm like, man, my eyes are wide open the whole 00:08:53.539 --> 00:08:55.559 time. It's like, I want more layovers so I can 00:08:55.559 --> 00:08:57.559 have more fun on the journey. I have no problem 00:08:57.559 --> 00:09:00.279 with layovers, man, because it's like just opportunities 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:03.200 to talk to people and engage. I mean, that's 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:06.360 what we do. And so great trip. Ended up in Dallas. 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:10.019 Man, Dallas is just Dallas, right? I mean, traffic 00:09:10.019 --> 00:09:11.720 and all that, but really it wasn't that bad. 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:15.399 I mean, we struck up conversations with everybody 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:18.340 we met, but we didn't do it on purpose. We live 00:09:18.340 --> 00:09:20.620 with purpose. So those things happen, I guess, 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:22.840 on purpose, but not because you're just trying 00:09:22.840 --> 00:09:25.639 to like, oh, I got to make a conversation here. 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:28.500 It's just, no, I mean, just talk about life and 00:09:28.500 --> 00:09:31.419 stuff and laugh. And yeah, we had so much fun 00:09:31.419 --> 00:09:34.440 on the journey with everybody. Even the rental 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.700 car guy was cool. He was like, man, can I get 00:09:37.700 --> 00:09:40.659 you something? Hey, let me go get that car for 00:09:40.659 --> 00:09:42.659 you. Let me make sure you get the right car. 00:09:43.899 --> 00:09:49.539 Because when you start living this life, it starts 00:09:49.539 --> 00:09:52.320 to ooze out of your pores. You don't even know 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:56.470 it. The aroma of Christ is getting there. Before 00:09:56.470 --> 00:09:58.610 you do because I mean like you have a very smell 00:09:58.610 --> 00:10:01.669 you coming. Well, you have a very Distinctive 00:10:01.669 --> 00:10:04.549 cologne that you wear which in a weird twist 00:10:04.549 --> 00:10:08.110 of fate my wife got it for me Yeah, no, I said 00:10:08.110 --> 00:10:10.389 honey conversations need to be had here. This 00:10:10.389 --> 00:10:13.990 is weird. I Smelled me when I came in. No, no, 00:10:14.090 --> 00:10:18.889 no, I got the other one. Oh Johnny Depp on it 00:10:18.889 --> 00:10:24.570 I'm just a toilet water over here new one the 00:10:24.570 --> 00:10:27.230 new scent I can't even pronounce it. But anyway, 00:10:28.649 --> 00:10:31.070 so when I put it on, I said, I smell like Adam 00:10:31.070 --> 00:10:33.789 Curry. She goes, I love Adam Curry's smell, but 00:10:33.789 --> 00:10:35.830 it's weirding me out because I feel like he's 00:10:35.830 --> 00:10:38.870 here. He's in my space right now. No way. He's 00:10:38.870 --> 00:10:41.629 halfway across the United States. So anyway, 00:10:41.730 --> 00:10:43.590 all that to say, sorry, man, I got to tell you. 00:10:44.009 --> 00:10:46.309 I'm just laughing all the way to the bank here. 00:10:46.990 --> 00:10:52.129 So we get to Dallas and again, just crazy open 00:10:52.129 --> 00:10:55.289 door of fun stuff happens. Like meeting Toby. 00:10:55.629 --> 00:10:57.389 Did I talk about Toby last week? I talked about 00:10:57.389 --> 00:10:58.830 it in the message, but I don't know if I did. 00:10:59.350 --> 00:11:02.090 I met Toby, he's the guy who - The checkout guy? 00:11:02.129 --> 00:11:03.870 Yeah, I wanted to know if I was a financier. 00:11:04.289 --> 00:11:07.190 Yeah, we talked about Toby last time. So yeah, 00:11:07.190 --> 00:11:09.429 that's right. Because that was before the meetups, 00:11:09.730 --> 00:11:12.029 but after we were there, I was remote last week. 00:11:12.450 --> 00:11:14.629 By the way, the production sounded really good. 00:11:14.690 --> 00:11:16.710 I'm telling you, man, this stuff works. That 00:11:16.710 --> 00:11:19.809 mini pod thing is amazing. Pod mobile. Pod mobile. 00:11:20.690 --> 00:11:24.409 So we went to the - We did a VIP dinner, which 00:11:24.409 --> 00:11:26.850 is great because it was at a Brazilian steakhouse. 00:11:27.169 --> 00:11:29.389 Boy, how appropriate is that? These guys are 00:11:29.389 --> 00:11:31.330 coming around with swords and pieces of meat 00:11:31.330 --> 00:11:33.929 and slice and food. I've been to one of these 00:11:33.929 --> 00:11:36.470 restaurants. Man, it was awesome. But we got 00:11:36.470 --> 00:11:38.110 to meet people. Oh, go ahead. Is that the one 00:11:38.110 --> 00:11:40.129 where if you want more meat, you put a little 00:11:40.129 --> 00:11:42.269 red sticker down and you flip the thing over? 00:11:42.769 --> 00:11:44.570 Red and green. Red and green. They just left 00:11:44.570 --> 00:11:47.149 mine on green. Easy to overeat in these places. 00:11:47.610 --> 00:11:51.070 Man, it was awesome. The people that attended 00:11:51.070 --> 00:11:53.889 that, they paid extra to come to that and to 00:11:53.889 --> 00:11:55.649 meet the people who were in the movie. So we 00:11:55.649 --> 00:11:57.970 were there. So we got to meet people. It was 00:11:57.970 --> 00:11:59.710 a meetup. It was like the connect center here 00:11:59.710 --> 00:12:02.250 at the church. We're hanging around, just having 00:12:02.250 --> 00:12:05.690 fun with people, hearing their stories, not really 00:12:05.690 --> 00:12:07.009 telling ours because they're going to need to 00:12:07.009 --> 00:12:08.629 see it in the movie, but we get to hear their 00:12:08.629 --> 00:12:11.970 stories and just hearing people just what they've 00:12:11.970 --> 00:12:15.269 been free from and what they've gotten. Food 00:12:15.269 --> 00:12:17.570 addictions that were like deadly. I mean like 00:12:17.570 --> 00:12:20.909 killing them kind of things You know three four 00:12:20.909 --> 00:12:23.509 or five hundred pounds and somebody losing two 00:12:23.509 --> 00:12:25.870 hundred and seventy pounds now This is all done 00:12:25.870 --> 00:12:28.529 on carnivore carnivore diet or diet carnivore 00:12:28.529 --> 00:12:31.779 and ketobor So the carnivore space seems to have 00:12:31.779 --> 00:12:34.220 taken in the keto space as well, because there's 00:12:34.220 --> 00:12:36.279 a realization that not everybody can do that. 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:39.799 What is the difference between the two? Carnivore 00:12:39.799 --> 00:12:42.679 is basically beef, butter, bacon and eggs, and 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:45.240 drinking electrolytes and water. So it's pretty 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:48.200 like a lion diet thing. So it's pretty basic. 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:52.980 No carbs, all protein and fat. So you begin to 00:12:52.980 --> 00:12:54.860 burn fat for fuel, which is amazing, because 00:12:54.860 --> 00:12:56.860 that's when you become superhuman and you feel 00:12:56.860 --> 00:13:01.860 like you are. So, ketivore is your strongly protein 00:13:01.860 --> 00:13:06.320 meat, meat, poultry, fish, strongly like 80%. 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:09.179 But then you also like salad or you enjoy healthy, 00:13:09.419 --> 00:13:11.899 clean other kinds of food, avocados. Can you 00:13:11.899 --> 00:13:15.720 have a potato? No, no potato. Potato is no good. 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:18.879 In the words of John DeVorek, that's no good. 00:13:19.259 --> 00:13:23.259 It's no good. So no, potatoes are bad. They're 00:13:23.259 --> 00:13:25.220 starch, so it's pure sugar when it hits your 00:13:25.220 --> 00:13:28.440 system. So all these people doing this together 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:32.240 is really cool. There was like 225 people. They 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:35.179 sold out that theater, small theater and downtown, 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:37.419 old downtown grapevine, which is a real cool 00:13:37.419 --> 00:13:41.179 little drag. It's neat and sold it out. So man, 00:13:41.259 --> 00:13:43.399 it was a great spirit in the house. We watched 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:46.500 the movie, man, I cried again just over, cause 00:13:46.500 --> 00:13:48.320 I know some of these people that have gone through 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:51.340 some hard stuff and they're doing well and one 00:13:51.340 --> 00:13:54.370 not so well, but At the end of it, they brought 00:13:54.370 --> 00:13:56.409 us up on the platform because it was an old movie 00:13:56.409 --> 00:13:58.450 theater with a stage, so they brought us up there. 00:13:58.970 --> 00:14:01.669 Annette and I and Ashley Rogers, who's one of 00:14:01.669 --> 00:14:04.549 the Carnivore brothers, and Carey Mann, who has 00:14:04.549 --> 00:14:07.509 Homestead Howl, that's his channel. He's the 00:14:07.509 --> 00:14:10.529 founder. He's the one who had the vision. A YouTuber, 00:14:10.809 --> 00:14:14.169 he says, man, I'm just a YouTuber who barely 00:14:14.169 --> 00:14:17.070 graduated from high school and I felt like I 00:14:17.070 --> 00:14:18.889 was supposed to make a movie. He said, I had 00:14:18.889 --> 00:14:22.429 no idea what I was getting into. So they produce 00:14:22.429 --> 00:14:25.590 this movie. They've got over 400 hours of footage. 00:14:26.070 --> 00:14:27.929 That's a lot. Beyond the movie. That's a lot. 00:14:27.929 --> 00:14:30.450 So they're going to do a YouTube series and roll 00:14:30.450 --> 00:14:32.649 these stories out just so people can see their 00:14:32.649 --> 00:14:35.649 stories. Good. So we got up there and we did 00:14:35.649 --> 00:14:37.769 Q &A. They'd given everybody cards. They were 00:14:37.769 --> 00:14:39.450 writing down their questions during the movie. 00:14:39.990 --> 00:14:41.690 And man, they're firing them right and left at 00:14:41.690 --> 00:14:44.990 us when we get up there. And it was so fun. And 00:14:44.990 --> 00:14:47.750 I got to talk about the Lord. over and over. 00:14:49.029 --> 00:14:51.990 This is what I appreciate about Carryman. They 00:14:51.990 --> 00:14:54.570 introduced me in Annette as Pastor Jimmy in Annette. 00:14:55.169 --> 00:14:57.789 That's all they ever call us. Right. And what 00:14:57.789 --> 00:15:02.070 that's done, we're sort of the unofficial chaplains, 00:15:02.629 --> 00:15:05.509 pastors of the carnivore space. And it's not 00:15:05.509 --> 00:15:07.330 that we tried to do it, we just showed up and 00:15:07.330 --> 00:15:10.190 we were just who we were. So how do you connect 00:15:10.190 --> 00:15:16.700 the carnivore, ketovore, audience with faith. 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:20.240 I can think of a lot of them. How did you do 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:22.100 that? The way I do it, I talk about mind, body, 00:15:22.179 --> 00:15:24.759 and spirit that were three parts as a person. 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:29.360 And everybody's cool about stewarding their mental 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:31.740 health. And then a lot of people are good about 00:15:31.740 --> 00:15:33.980 stewarding their spiritual health, but we're 00:15:33.980 --> 00:15:36.519 not good about stewarding our physical health. 00:15:36.700 --> 00:15:38.980 And so I describe it as a three -legged stool. 00:15:39.580 --> 00:15:41.740 If you have three legs, one is spirit, one mind, 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:45.090 one body, and then you cut off any one of those 00:15:45.090 --> 00:15:47.590 three inches, you have a dysfunctional stool. 00:15:48.250 --> 00:15:49.990 Many of us have a dysfunctional life because 00:15:49.990 --> 00:15:52.289 we are not balanced in those things. We're not 00:15:52.289 --> 00:15:54.929 stewarding them well. So that's my step into 00:15:54.929 --> 00:15:57.870 that. That's my spiel, if you will, into that. 00:15:58.110 --> 00:15:59.690 And it makes sense with people. They're like, 00:15:59.830 --> 00:16:02.889 yeah, I could see that. So we just talk about 00:16:02.889 --> 00:16:05.809 it matter of faculty and the fact that they introduce 00:16:05.809 --> 00:16:07.970 us as pastors, that's kind of green light go. 00:16:08.470 --> 00:16:11.470 People are going to expect it. So I met Froda 00:16:11.470 --> 00:16:16.059 from Finland, And he said, man, he said, I'm 00:16:16.059 --> 00:16:20.419 noticing that in this area of health, most people 00:16:20.419 --> 00:16:25.539 are Christians. And I said, well, I said, it's 00:16:25.539 --> 00:16:28.000 a good observation. I said, I think it's because 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:30.240 what we're doing here, we're not trying to make 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:32.519 money. We're just trying to help people. So that's 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:34.919 going to attract people who are generally have 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:37.480 a good moral compass. And that's going to be 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:40.220 probably more than likely, mostly. Christians, 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:43.120 but others too, that are just good people that 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:45.480 want to help others, you know, get whole, get 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:48.000 healed. And he loved it. He said, well, I know 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:49.840 there's evil because I think, I think there's 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:52.259 a very real evil that creates. Oh, always the 00:16:52.259 --> 00:16:54.100 first step, man. That's perfect. Naomi Wolf, 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:56.299 Adam C. Curry right there, man. It was a setup. 00:16:56.419 --> 00:16:58.799 And I said, yeah, because man, if there's, if 00:16:58.799 --> 00:17:00.720 there's evil that's causing people to eat bad 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:02.519 and it's killing them, you know, trashing their 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:04.960 health, then there's got to be good. And he said, 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:07.740 yeah, I mean, it was a great conversation with 00:17:07.740 --> 00:17:11.289 Froda. And he had a very thick accent. Oh, yeah. 00:17:11.450 --> 00:17:13.710 The fins, for sure. Yeah. He was neat, though. 00:17:14.470 --> 00:17:17.769 Gosh, we met a guy in the tech world from San 00:17:17.769 --> 00:17:20.609 Diego. No, San Francisco. San Diego. He's San 00:17:20.609 --> 00:17:24.089 Diego. Met another guy. And all these guys came 00:17:24.089 --> 00:17:26.029 up to us after it was over with, and either wanted 00:17:26.029 --> 00:17:28.630 to talk about our faith, the connection of faith 00:17:28.630 --> 00:17:31.490 and health, or health. They wanted practical 00:17:31.490 --> 00:17:34.829 things. So we got there at 5 PM for the dinner. 00:17:35.500 --> 00:17:40.680 We left at 1130 p .m. Because not only did we 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:42.980 close the theater down we stood outside for another 00:17:42.980 --> 00:17:45.500 hour an hour and a half talking to people who 00:17:45.500 --> 00:17:47.339 didn't want to leave I love that because they 00:17:47.339 --> 00:17:49.319 were learning and growing and we were just connecting 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:52.779 so that happened twice it happened once in Dallas 00:17:52.779 --> 00:17:55.079 then we got back on the plane flew to Austin 00:17:55.079 --> 00:17:57.259 did it again the next night love that five o 00:17:57.259 --> 00:18:01.119 'clock that night till 1130 so Like the Holy 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:05.769 Spirit is moving around this topic And as you're 00:18:05.769 --> 00:18:08.250 out there, and I'm always looking for, you know, 00:18:08.470 --> 00:18:10.690 topics for the show, you know, we always try 00:18:10.690 --> 00:18:12.430 to hit things that are happening in culture. 00:18:12.490 --> 00:18:15.009 How does that fit in with our world, with our 00:18:15.009 --> 00:18:20.150 worldview? 60 Minutes has this entire piece about 00:18:20.150 --> 00:18:25.109 food. And wow, I mean, I had to bring a couple 00:18:25.109 --> 00:18:28.170 clips and I have some thoughts about how we can 00:18:28.170 --> 00:18:31.160 look at this. I'll just kick it off with their 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:34.000 beginning because the stuff you hear from this 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:40.259 and a guy named Kessler used to be the FDA administrator 00:18:40.259 --> 00:18:43.599 and RFK Jr., they're both in this piece and I 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:46.289 pulled some clips for us. Today, an increasing 00:18:46.289 --> 00:18:48.789 number of Americans across the political spectrum, 00:18:49.190 --> 00:18:51.690 from Make America Healthy Again activists to 00:18:51.690 --> 00:18:54.650 everyday shoppers, are voicing concern about 00:18:54.650 --> 00:18:57.549 the health impact of ultra -processed foods, 00:18:58.009 --> 00:19:00.250 those boxed and wrapped in plastic ready -to 00:19:00.250 --> 00:19:03.809 -eat items lining grocery store shelves. Leading 00:19:03.809 --> 00:19:06.630 the charge are two men who disagree on pretty 00:19:06.630 --> 00:19:09.599 much everything else about public health. Health 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:12.079 and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:15.900 Jr. and Dr. David Kessler, the former commissioner 00:19:15.900 --> 00:19:18.880 of the U .S. Food and Drug Administration. The 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:21.980 two men have found common ground over a common 00:19:21.980 --> 00:19:25.680 culprit, a 67 -year -old government classification 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:29.400 for substances in our food. It's called GRASS, 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:33.279 or generally recognized as SAFE. Kennedy and 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:35.880 Kessler say it has allowed big food companies 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:39.039 to use ingredients without a full government 00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:42.099 safety review and flood the market with ultra 00:19:42.099 --> 00:19:45.619 -processed foods that now make up 50 % of our 00:19:45.619 --> 00:19:50.579 calories and 60 % of our children's diets. Over 00:19:50.579 --> 00:19:55.700 the last 40 years, the United States has been 00:19:55.700 --> 00:19:59.500 exposed to something that our biology was never 00:19:59.500 --> 00:20:05.539 intended to handle. energy -dense, highly palatable, 00:20:05.940 --> 00:20:10.299 rapidly absorbable, ultra -processed foods that 00:20:10.299 --> 00:20:13.799 have altered our metabolism and have resulted 00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:17.380 in the greatest increase in chronic disease in 00:20:17.380 --> 00:20:21.799 our history. Type 2 diabetes, pre -diabetes, 00:20:22.420 --> 00:20:28.119 hypertension, abnormal lipids, fatty liver, heart 00:20:28.119 --> 00:20:33.910 attacks, stroke. heart failure From our food 00:20:33.910 --> 00:20:39.230 from our food. Yay food Boy, the maha effect 00:20:39.230 --> 00:20:42.930 man. Well, it's it's amazing because Kessler 00:20:42.930 --> 00:20:45.789 Kessler is definitely not on the maha train when 00:20:45.789 --> 00:20:49.690 it writes a lot of other things But he is the 00:20:49.690 --> 00:20:53.210 guy that went after big tobacco. Oh wow for you 00:20:53.210 --> 00:20:56.759 know them purposely making it addictive. David 00:20:56.759 --> 00:20:59.339 Kessler was commissioner of the US Food and Drug 00:20:59.339 --> 00:21:02.500 Administration during the 1990s when he helped 00:21:02.500 --> 00:21:05.740 expose how the tobacco companies manipulated 00:21:05.740 --> 00:21:09.339 nicotine levels to hook consumers. I am here 00:21:09.339 --> 00:21:14.099 to provide you with actual instances of nicotine 00:21:14.099 --> 00:21:18.460 control and manipulation in the tobacco industry. 00:21:19.580 --> 00:21:23.319 He was a driving force in bringing tobacco executives 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:26.180 before Congress and turning public attention 00:21:26.180 --> 00:21:29.480 to the industry. He's now aiming to do the same 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:33.640 with the food industry. In terms of a public 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:38.180 health crisis, how does this compare with tobacco? 00:21:38.859 --> 00:21:43.200 It's as large, if not larger. It's that significant. 00:21:43.859 --> 00:21:48.119 The scale of this, this affects everybody. Understand, 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:51.960 not everybody's smoked. Look at the number of 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:55.720 people who consume ultra -processed food. It 00:21:55.720 --> 00:21:58.380 touches all of us. Seventy percent of Americans 00:21:58.380 --> 00:22:02.420 are either obese or overweight. And it's not 00:22:02.420 --> 00:22:05.920 because they got indolent or because we became 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:10.900 lazy or because we suddenly developed giant appetites. 00:22:11.059 --> 00:22:14.900 It's because we're being given food that is low 00:22:14.900 --> 00:22:19.480 in nutrition. and high in calories and it's making, 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:22.380 it's destroying our health. Yeah, and it's addictive. 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:26.019 Play one more with some stats and then we're 00:22:26.019 --> 00:22:28.099 going to talk about some things. We met with 00:22:28.099 --> 00:22:30.480 Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. 00:22:30.579 --> 00:22:34.579 Kennedy Jr. last month after he issued new dietary 00:22:34.579 --> 00:22:37.920 guidelines that for the first time advise against 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:42.220 highly processed foods. You have said that these 00:22:42.220 --> 00:22:46.940 ultra -processed foods are poisoning us. I think 00:22:46.940 --> 00:22:49.799 many Americans would be surprised to hear that. 00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:54.500 We're seeing in our population people who are 00:22:54.500 --> 00:22:58.559 obscenely obese and at the same time malnourished. 00:23:00.339 --> 00:23:02.920 Kennedy says that's largely because we don't 00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:05.319 know the health consequences of what we're eating. 00:23:05.640 --> 00:23:08.759 Thanks to the grass exemption enacted by Congress 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:12.859 in 1958 that allows food companies to independently 00:23:12.859 --> 00:23:15.920 verify the safety of their ingredients with no 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:18.920 government oversight if they are generally recognized 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:22.359 by experts as safe. Pending White House approval, 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:26.819 he intends to close that back door. That loophole 00:23:26.819 --> 00:23:31.329 is hijacked by the industry. And it was used 00:23:31.329 --> 00:23:35.269 to add thousands upon thousands of new ingredients 00:23:35.269 --> 00:23:38.849 into our food supply. In Europe, there's only 00:23:38.849 --> 00:23:43.130 400 legal ingredients. This agency does not know 00:23:43.130 --> 00:23:45.869 how many ingredients there are in American food. 00:23:46.089 --> 00:23:49.089 We do not know. They do not know. The estimates 00:23:49.089 --> 00:23:53.750 are between 4 ,000 and 10 ,000. We have no idea 00:23:53.750 --> 00:23:57.599 what they are. How do we... know what is safe 00:23:57.599 --> 00:24:02.160 to eat. There is no way for any American to know 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:06.460 if a product is safe if it is ultra processed. 00:24:07.180 --> 00:24:10.039 That's a lot of stuff we don't know about that's 00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:15.720 in our food. So I want to go to the word of God. 00:24:16.700 --> 00:24:18.740 And so I started looking stuff up, you know, 00:24:18.859 --> 00:24:21.099 what are we supposed to eat? And the right food 00:24:21.099 --> 00:24:24.599 is is a is a is in the Bible and metaphor, you 00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:26.799 know, food, food for all kinds, you know, not 00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:30.779 necessarily sustenance. And the two that obviously 00:24:30.779 --> 00:24:34.900 I came up with, Genesis 1, 29, 30, then God said, 00:24:34.980 --> 00:24:38.539 look, I think He said like that, look, I have 00:24:38.539 --> 00:24:40.700 given you every seed -bearing plant throughout 00:24:40.700 --> 00:24:43.339 the earth and all the fruit trees for your food. 00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:46.119 And I've given every green plant as food for 00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:48.500 all the wild animals, the birds in the sky and 00:24:48.500 --> 00:24:50.720 the small animals that scurry along the ground, 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:54.109 everything that has life. And that is what happened. 00:24:54.950 --> 00:24:58.269 And then Genesis 9, 3 to 4, we get kind of an 00:24:58.269 --> 00:25:01.670 expansion. And this is just me, amateur theologian. 00:25:02.750 --> 00:25:05.490 I have given them to you for food, just as I 00:25:05.490 --> 00:25:07.369 have given you grain and vegetables. But you 00:25:07.369 --> 00:25:10.130 must never eat any meat that still has the lifeblood 00:25:10.130 --> 00:25:17.430 in it. So is this telling us to be Ketovor? Yeah, 00:25:17.430 --> 00:25:19.529 I know this is a loaded question I'm throwing 00:25:19.529 --> 00:25:24.480 at you. It is. Here's the thing. So Jordan Rubin 00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:27.299 has done a lot of work on this. He's a Messianic 00:25:27.299 --> 00:25:31.299 Jewish guy who nearly died in high school because 00:25:31.299 --> 00:25:34.599 of all kinds of health issues. Turns out it was 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:37.500 diet related and took a lot of work to get to 00:25:37.500 --> 00:25:38.940 it. It took him years to figure it out before 00:25:38.940 --> 00:25:42.160 he finally turned the corner. And he wrote a 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:45.059 book called The Biblio Diet, where he's talking 00:25:45.059 --> 00:25:48.319 about these very things. He makes a distinction, 00:25:48.420 --> 00:25:50.819 which I would make that same distinction that 00:25:51.660 --> 00:25:55.099 Sadly, a lot of the things that are listed on 00:25:55.099 --> 00:25:58.180 that list have been genetically modified by the 00:25:58.180 --> 00:26:02.079 food industry. It's hard to know if you're eating 00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:06.039 really clean foods. For example, an apple today 00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:09.599 is basically like a piece of candy. It has been 00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:14.400 so modified. Sugarized. It's got dye in the skin. 00:26:16.250 --> 00:26:19.690 messed with genetically in order to produce massive, 00:26:19.970 --> 00:26:23.109 huge, large, gorgeous apples. Whereas 100 years 00:26:23.109 --> 00:26:25.430 ago, when you were eating real apples, real food 00:26:25.430 --> 00:26:29.630 that was not modified, hadn't been sprayed with 00:26:29.630 --> 00:26:32.869 pesticides, they were small and they weren't 00:26:32.869 --> 00:26:37.369 that sweet. Even the term organic is crap. That 00:26:37.369 --> 00:26:40.950 rating is... It's literally a marketing ploy. 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:44.140 Exactly. It sounds good, but it doesn't mean 00:26:44.140 --> 00:26:47.319 at all that it's straight from an old school 00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:51.619 tree. Sadly it doesn't, because the parameters 00:26:51.619 --> 00:26:54.920 for calling something organic doesn't mean that 00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:58.140 it hasn't been sprayed or messed with. It's a 00:26:58.140 --> 00:26:59.940 how much has it been sprayed or messed with. 00:27:00.140 --> 00:27:04.099 So you're still getting that stuff. So the safest 00:27:04.099 --> 00:27:07.160 thing to do, I mean, if it's even possible, is 00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:09.079 to go to a farmer's market where these guys, 00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:12.319 but then again, you don't. So he was right. We 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:14.859 don't know. We don't know. One of the things 00:27:14.859 --> 00:27:18.960 that is appealing to me as someone who has been 00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:21.619 down this, walked in this space for a long time, 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:24.339 is that I want to be able to eat something that 00:27:24.339 --> 00:27:28.619 I know has the best chance of being healthy by 00:27:28.619 --> 00:27:33.309 the time it gets to my. Which is why we get our 00:27:33.309 --> 00:27:37.029 beef from our ranchers and we know them. We've 00:27:37.029 --> 00:27:39.349 shaken their hand. We feel good about what they're 00:27:39.349 --> 00:27:41.410 doing. They tell us what they are and aren't 00:27:41.410 --> 00:27:44.670 doing. That's number one. But you're right about 00:27:44.670 --> 00:27:47.349 the greens, you know, vegetables and fruit. You 00:27:47.349 --> 00:27:49.230 really don't know. How many recalls have we seen 00:27:49.230 --> 00:27:52.109 recently on vegetables and fruit? I mean lettuce 00:27:52.109 --> 00:27:54.490 will just give you explosive diarrhea these days. 00:27:55.950 --> 00:27:58.910 And what is lettuce anyway contains no nutrients. 00:27:59.269 --> 00:28:01.950 It's a medium for all the crap you put on it 00:28:01.950 --> 00:28:05.509 that you like. All the sweet stuff. Pineapple, 00:28:06.170 --> 00:28:09.609 sugarized strawberries, the stuff we add to it. 00:28:10.450 --> 00:28:12.809 So yeah, this goes down the rabbit hole real 00:28:12.809 --> 00:28:15.990 quick. And yet these are not conspiracy theories 00:28:15.990 --> 00:28:18.869 around food. This is proven, documented. It's 00:28:18.869 --> 00:28:21.829 been for years, decades. It has gotten worse. 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:25.640 Should we be doing something about that as believers? 00:28:25.819 --> 00:28:29.980 Should we be a means? We need to be okay, so 00:28:29.980 --> 00:28:32.640 we go back to stewardship. The word steward simply 00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:35.740 means handling God's blessings, God's ways. We 00:28:35.740 --> 00:28:38.799 were blessed with a physical body. It's the only 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:40.960 thing we'll have from birth to death is our body, 00:28:41.180 --> 00:28:44.819 our physical, our earth suit, if you will. It's 00:28:44.819 --> 00:28:47.079 the only thing we'll have. And yet it's one of 00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:49.720 the things we treat the worst. We don't get the 00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:53.289 sleep we need. Loaded with cortisol from living 00:28:53.289 --> 00:28:55.609 stressful lives and not knowing what how to dump 00:28:55.609 --> 00:28:59.029 that We we eat what's been handed to us. It's 00:28:59.029 --> 00:29:02.549 called SAD the sad diet the standard American 00:29:02.549 --> 00:29:05.950 diet It's even called that yeah sad because it 00:29:05.950 --> 00:29:08.190 is because it's destroying people's health and 00:29:08.190 --> 00:29:10.450 that is documented There's there is no argument 00:29:10.450 --> 00:29:12.490 on there's no debate on this by the way because 00:29:12.490 --> 00:29:16.730 it's it's we have the receipts and So we have 00:29:16.730 --> 00:29:20.170 to be selective and wise about what we're going 00:29:20.170 --> 00:29:24.640 to do So going into a restaurant, I eat, I'll 00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:28.000 order a steak and I say, do you cook with seed 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:29.299 oils on your steak? Because when they come out 00:29:29.299 --> 00:29:31.059 and they're glistening, that's a good chance 00:29:31.059 --> 00:29:33.180 that things are bathed in all kinds of stuff. 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.880 That's really bad for you. And in my system, 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:39.740 when I'm clicking, which I'm back in full on 00:29:39.740 --> 00:29:42.160 carnivore, things are clicking, things are going 00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:45.160 good. I'm down to my fighting weight again. I'm 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.480 right where I'm supposed to be. Then you add 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:51.660 those terrible ingredients, it'll actually can 00:29:51.660 --> 00:29:54.339 make me sick. It'll hurt my stomach because my 00:29:54.339 --> 00:29:55.660 stomach's like, what are you doing? You've been 00:29:55.660 --> 00:29:59.980 doing so good. And so as Christians, we do need 00:29:59.980 --> 00:30:04.680 to be mindful because so much of what we eat, 00:30:04.900 --> 00:30:07.460 we're addicted to. Let's just start with sugar. 00:30:07.930 --> 00:30:10.950 Man, it's as addictive as cocaine. You've heard 00:30:10.950 --> 00:30:14.390 that cliche thrown around. Oreos are as addictive 00:30:14.390 --> 00:30:18.450 as cocaine. And the reason why we salivate when 00:30:18.450 --> 00:30:21.250 we name these foods off is because we're addicted 00:30:21.250 --> 00:30:23.329 to them. Here, listen to this. I have it still. 00:30:23.589 --> 00:30:27.809 Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine. That's 00:30:27.809 --> 00:30:31.069 true. Actual news report. It's actually true. 00:30:31.289 --> 00:30:35.390 There is verifiable documentation on this. So 00:30:35.390 --> 00:30:39.380 yes, as believers, I went there a little bit 00:30:39.380 --> 00:30:41.519 on Sunday just talking a little about the carnivore 00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:43.660 space. I had so many people come to me after 00:30:43.660 --> 00:30:46.039 church and they said, pastor, I'm glad you said 00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:48.000 that. I really want to get going again. I did 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.559 it and then I did not and I feel terrible. I 00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:53.480 want to, I want to feel better again. So I'm 00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:55.720 counseling and kind of coaching some guys through 00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:59.119 that, a couple of guys and then others who've 00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:02.440 asked about it. So yeah, stewardship of what 00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:06.599 God has given us. I mean, Forget your refrigerator. 00:31:06.660 --> 00:31:08.740 Forget that we're talking about food. Forget 00:31:08.740 --> 00:31:12.299 big food industry. It's just this. It goes back 00:31:12.299 --> 00:31:17.799 to a spiritual issue. Am I willing to choose 00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:22.920 obedience over impulse? And much of what we do 00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.299 in eating is impulse. We're bored. It's your 00:31:26.299 --> 00:31:28.000 brain. It's your brain. We're watching a Netflix 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.359 series, right? What do we do? I need something. 00:31:30.579 --> 00:31:31.680 I need something. You're doom scrolling. You're 00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:34.059 doom scrolling. I need something. It's addiction. 00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.200 There's one other clip, just this last one, just 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:39.140 because you were talking about our food industry, 00:31:39.339 --> 00:31:42.619 big food. And I love that 60 Minutes did this. 00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:45.460 I'm pretty sure not as many people were exposed 00:31:45.460 --> 00:31:48.579 to 60 Minutes. You know, that should be because 00:31:48.579 --> 00:31:50.680 let's face it, we got all kinds of stuff going 00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:55.920 on in our newsfeed. This I guess I kind of understood 00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:58.759 or knew about, but I was surprised to hear about 00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:03.640 our food. We met with food author Michael Pollan, 00:32:04.180 --> 00:32:07.059 who for decades has been warning about inexpensive 00:32:07.059 --> 00:32:10.680 factory -processed food. Granola bars, those 00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:13.140 look very healthy. All of these would qualify 00:32:13.140 --> 00:32:15.079 as ultra -processed foods, even though they're 00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.119 very different. This, you know, we have a snack 00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:19.779 food, a couple snack foods. Nature Valley? I 00:32:19.779 --> 00:32:22.819 would argue because of the number of ingredients 00:32:22.819 --> 00:32:25.880 in it. So there's a lot of sugar in here. This 00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:30.720 is sold as... Yeah, health food. Paulin commends 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:33.420 Kennedy for shining a light on ultra -processed 00:32:33.420 --> 00:32:36.880 foods. He ties their ubiquity to long -standing 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:40.180 federal farm subsidies. Check this out. We subsidize, 00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:43.339 as taxpayers, through the farm bill, the least 00:32:43.339 --> 00:32:46.099 healthy calories in the diet, most of which goes 00:32:46.099 --> 00:32:49.819 to people farming corn and soybeans. What's wrong 00:32:49.819 --> 00:32:52.380 with corn and soybeans? When you hear corn and 00:32:52.380 --> 00:32:54.759 soy, you think food. This is not corn on the 00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:58.059 cob. This is commodity corn. It's not the sweet 00:32:58.059 --> 00:33:00.339 corn we eat in the summer? No, you can't eat 00:33:00.339 --> 00:33:04.200 it, in fact. It's all starch. Big cobs, you'd 00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:06.779 break your teeth on it. And then soy, which is 00:33:06.779 --> 00:33:10.039 not in the form we grow it as a commodity, is 00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:13.660 not edamame. You can't eat it. These are raw 00:33:13.660 --> 00:33:16.779 ingredients for processed foods and animal feed. 00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:21.440 So the government is subsidizing crops that are 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:25.420 making us unselfish. Yes, yeah. But in one way 00:33:25.420 --> 00:33:27.859 to look at it is we are supporting both sides 00:33:27.859 --> 00:33:32.339 in the war on type 2 diabetes We are we're subsidizing 00:33:32.339 --> 00:33:34.460 the high fructose corn syrup That's contributing 00:33:34.460 --> 00:33:37.539 to causing it and then we're paying for the health 00:33:37.539 --> 00:33:40.819 care costs. I mean it makes no sense at all Well, 00:33:40.819 --> 00:33:43.599 there you go. I didn't know that you couldn't 00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:45.799 eat the corn or the soybeans that are being grown. 00:33:45.940 --> 00:33:48.359 I had no idea. One of the reasons, and I started 00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:51.180 down this as we were getting closer to 60, we 00:33:51.180 --> 00:33:54.259 started with keto, the ketogenic diet. And that's 00:33:54.259 --> 00:33:56.539 a clean, clean food diet, as clean as you can 00:33:56.539 --> 00:33:59.279 get, right? You do that and you're, again, meat 00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:02.859 heavy, protein heavy, but you're lower carb. 00:34:03.259 --> 00:34:05.880 So that's the, it's sort of a great step in if 00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:07.500 you're wanting to do something. So that's what 00:34:07.500 --> 00:34:10.119 we did for five years. That's when we began to 00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:12.059 study and learn some of these things and realize 00:34:12.059 --> 00:34:15.219 how bad our food supply had gotten. Our doctor 00:34:15.219 --> 00:34:17.559 who was very versed in nutrition, Marcy, you 00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:20.860 know Marcy. We were going to be traveling to 00:34:20.860 --> 00:34:23.139 Paris in 2019. She said, oh, I've got good news. 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:25.000 She knew we were doing ketogenic. In fact, she 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:27.139 was doing it at the time as well. Our own doctor 00:34:27.139 --> 00:34:29.780 was doing it and she was losing weight. She looked 00:34:29.780 --> 00:34:34.659 amazing. She had energy. She loved it. So we 00:34:34.659 --> 00:34:37.360 did it and we saw the same result. She said, 00:34:37.659 --> 00:34:40.679 Oh, if you're going to Paris, you can eat the 00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:42.820 food there. Yeah, you can eat the bread. She 00:34:42.820 --> 00:34:47.139 said, enjoy the food. She said, it's clean. They 00:34:47.139 --> 00:34:50.699 don't have all exactly what they said. 400 ingredients 00:34:50.699 --> 00:34:54.139 there compared to 4 ,000 plus here. She said, 00:34:54.219 --> 00:34:57.360 it's good food. So we went to Paris. We were 00:34:57.360 --> 00:35:01.980 there for 10 days. We walked. We on purpose walked 00:35:01.980 --> 00:35:05.380 everywhere. We walked the city. 88 miles is what 00:35:05.380 --> 00:35:09.329 we logged. on our trackers that week, 88 miles 00:35:09.329 --> 00:35:13.909 walked. We ate everything and we had fun and 00:35:13.909 --> 00:35:17.409 we enjoyed it. And we lost weight. Now, did you 00:35:17.409 --> 00:35:19.650 lose weight because you walked 88 miles? We were 00:35:19.650 --> 00:35:21.510 used to, we were used to paddling. I mean, it's 00:35:21.510 --> 00:35:24.090 not a big deal for us. We work out, we're active. 00:35:24.789 --> 00:35:29.550 So, or because the food was legit there. It's 00:35:29.550 --> 00:35:32.469 the same in Italy. It's exactly the same. Now, 00:35:32.539 --> 00:35:34.599 They do have other problems in these countries. 00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.760 Of course. This is one area that I'm happy about. 00:35:37.780 --> 00:35:39.659 Very other big... And I hear that it's getting 00:35:39.659 --> 00:35:41.500 worse though. I hear that... It's not getting 00:35:41.500 --> 00:35:43.800 better. Because the economy and it's easier to 00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:46.780 produce these ultra processed foods, it's cheaper. 00:35:47.340 --> 00:35:49.619 And they go further, but sadly they're destroying 00:35:49.619 --> 00:35:52.519 people's health. So do you... It's like the old... 00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:54.619 SDP commercial, you want to pay me now or do 00:35:54.619 --> 00:35:57.059 you want to pay me later? And that is why we 00:35:57.059 --> 00:36:00.039 got into this space. We all got viscosity breakdown, 00:36:00.699 --> 00:36:04.699 man. For sure. Badly. So that's why we got into 00:36:04.699 --> 00:36:07.579 it initially is like we wanted to run through 00:36:07.579 --> 00:36:09.639 the tape because again, being a pastor, I've 00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:12.340 buried so many people before their time. People 00:36:12.340 --> 00:36:15.420 that I knew could have had a full long life and 00:36:15.420 --> 00:36:18.230 they didn't take care of themselves. People that 00:36:18.230 --> 00:36:20.929 were type 2 diabetics drinking, you know, you 00:36:20.929 --> 00:36:24.070 know 44 ounce big gulp. Yeah, dr. Pepper. It's 00:36:24.070 --> 00:36:29.349 not helping. Yeah. Yeah You brought a clip I 00:36:29.349 --> 00:36:32.309 did. Yeah Let me set it up though. Yeah, please 00:36:32.309 --> 00:36:35.210 do that. So that's why I'm handing it I appreciate 00:36:35.210 --> 00:36:39.050 nice segue. So I appreciate it on Sunday I preach 00:36:39.050 --> 00:36:42.849 part two of a message called reborn Ned and I 00:36:42.849 --> 00:36:44.909 have been talking and we realized, gosh, we throw 00:36:44.909 --> 00:36:46.570 a lot of terms around in the Christian world, 00:36:46.829 --> 00:36:50.769 right? Being saved, being lost, you need to get 00:36:50.769 --> 00:36:55.250 born again, you hear these terms. And as we were 00:36:55.250 --> 00:36:57.010 talking about one day, we were both saying, you 00:36:57.010 --> 00:36:58.869 know, most people don't even know what that means. 00:36:59.070 --> 00:37:00.969 Yeah, people have come from Catholic backgrounds, 00:37:01.769 --> 00:37:03.869 Lutheran, other denominations that don't even 00:37:03.869 --> 00:37:06.710 really use that language or lingo, or maybe don't 00:37:06.710 --> 00:37:09.090 even have that theological bent or that theological 00:37:09.090 --> 00:37:12.579 piece in their theology. So I just said, I'm 00:37:12.579 --> 00:37:14.900 going to do a re -series. They're going to be 00:37:14.900 --> 00:37:18.900 all re -words, re -born, re -do, re -vives, all 00:37:18.900 --> 00:37:21.800 that. So I just started with re -born and I put 00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:24.480 together a sermon. I stepped into the pulpit. 00:37:24.780 --> 00:37:27.500 I got one point of three points done. Barely 00:37:27.500 --> 00:37:29.239 scratched the surface. Barely got the first one 00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:30.679 out, the first service. I said, this will be 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:32.940 a two -parter. Then last week I said, this will 00:37:32.940 --> 00:37:35.960 be a three -parter. It may even keep going. But 00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:38.920 I talked about Nicodemus having this encounter 00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:42.699 with Jesus. I used a clip from The Chosen to 00:37:42.699 --> 00:37:46.000 demonstrate where Mary says, she's explaining 00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:48.659 to Nicodemus because he saw her possessed. He 00:37:48.659 --> 00:37:50.800 tried to cast the demons out of her. She had 00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.579 seven. Couldn't. And the demons in her looked 00:37:53.579 --> 00:37:56.199 at him and said, you have no power here. Right. 00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.179 Boy just rocked his world. Then he sees her in 00:37:59.179 --> 00:38:03.960 the marketplace and she's whole, clean, radiant. 00:38:04.219 --> 00:38:06.480 And he runs up to her and says, what happened 00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:10.139 to you? How did it work? And she said, oh no. 00:38:10.340 --> 00:38:13.219 And she's explained. She said, there was a man. 00:38:13.699 --> 00:38:16.179 She said, I don't even understand it myself. 00:38:16.809 --> 00:38:21.210 But I'll tell you this, I was this way and now 00:38:21.210 --> 00:38:25.909 I'm different and in between was him." So Nicodemus 00:38:25.909 --> 00:38:28.650 starts going, who is him? Who are you talking 00:38:28.650 --> 00:38:32.349 about? And she tells him it was Jesus. Well that 00:38:32.349 --> 00:38:34.369 started Nicodemus on a search. Now that's in 00:38:34.369 --> 00:38:36.389 the movie The Chosen, plausibility of course, 00:38:36.570 --> 00:38:39.710 not detailed in Scripture to that degree. But 00:38:39.710 --> 00:38:43.230 in Scripture is detailed more the encounter between 00:38:43.230 --> 00:38:46.150 Nicodemus and Jesus. Nicodemus seeks him out. 00:38:46.059 --> 00:38:48.159 Nicodemus is a part of the Sanhedrin, that's 00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:51.920 the 70, the council that rules Jerusalem. And 00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:54.340 he is also a teacher of teacher. Jesus even calls 00:38:54.340 --> 00:38:57.860 him a teacher of Israel. High, high ranking Pharisees, 00:38:57.940 --> 00:39:01.280 a brilliant man, scholar, and him and Jesus sit 00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:04.340 down for a meeting and they go back and forth. 00:39:04.460 --> 00:39:06.780 And Jesus tells him, are you a teacher of Israel 00:39:06.780 --> 00:39:09.219 and you don't even understand these things? And 00:39:09.219 --> 00:39:12.460 he says, this is why I tell you, John 3 .3, you 00:39:12.460 --> 00:39:15.170 must be born again. So that's the reborn thing. 00:39:15.389 --> 00:39:19.449 So I broke that all down. And wow, people were 00:39:19.449 --> 00:39:22.909 like all in. And I just went all Southern Baptist 00:39:22.909 --> 00:39:27.190 on my roots. You know that that one scene in 00:39:27.190 --> 00:39:30.230 The Chosen, it was after I saw that scene when 00:39:30.230 --> 00:39:32.949 I said to Tina, I'm ready to be baptized. Wow, 00:39:33.070 --> 00:39:35.570 forgot about that. That's right. We were in bed 00:39:35.570 --> 00:39:37.909 that night. I'm like... I'm ready now. I've seen 00:39:37.909 --> 00:39:40.750 it. That very scene on the rooftop. That scene 00:39:40.750 --> 00:39:42.969 was brilliant because that was actually very 00:39:42.969 --> 00:39:46.170 close to scripture. He doesn't quote John 3, 00:39:46.170 --> 00:39:49.289 he's saying John 3 .16 as just saying it. And 00:39:49.289 --> 00:39:50.889 then it gets quoted because John's over there 00:39:50.889 --> 00:39:52.650 writing down fiercely offensive. Down the bottom 00:39:52.650 --> 00:39:54.210 in the dark. Yeah, I remember that. He's writing 00:39:54.210 --> 00:39:56.530 down these things down. So it was a great scene 00:39:56.530 --> 00:39:58.750 there. So yeah, I forgot that that was what prompted 00:39:58.750 --> 00:40:03.079 you to take the plunge. So, I broke all that 00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:05.679 down and really just came to this point of helping 00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:08.880 people understand that you must be born again. 00:40:09.619 --> 00:40:12.199 We've got to be born again. What was your original 00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:15.300 question? You're setting up the clip. There it 00:40:15.300 --> 00:40:17.199 is, the clip. Thank you. Neither of us is going 00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:19.719 somewhere with that. So, I decided instead of 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.960 fumble around, I'd just ask. Being honest is 00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.019 good, man. Save some time. All right, because 00:40:25.019 --> 00:40:28.039 I got off preaching. So, here it is. So I found 00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:29.940 this clip by Josh Howerton. Of course, he was 00:40:29.940 --> 00:40:32.099 on the Sean Ryan show, did a three hour interview 00:40:32.099 --> 00:40:35.960 with Sean. And it was power. We watched all three 00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:39.239 hours. Yeah, I heard it actually. It was powerful. 00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:43.940 And Josh just, man, 44 years old, handled himself. 00:40:44.780 --> 00:40:47.179 And Sean was great. You know, Sean was in. I 00:40:47.179 --> 00:40:50.199 mean, he was, but he asked good questions. Sean 00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:52.900 is searching. I mean, he has been searching for 00:40:52.900 --> 00:40:55.219 a long time. He does say he's a believer. He's 00:40:55.219 --> 00:40:57.659 a Christian. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But he was asking 00:40:57.659 --> 00:40:59.860 the hard questions, the questions that most people 00:40:59.860 --> 00:41:03.739 are asking, Sean was asking. And so towards the 00:41:03.739 --> 00:41:06.820 end of it, they're getting down to it. And then 00:41:06.820 --> 00:41:09.900 Sean asked the question, why did Jesus have to 00:41:09.900 --> 00:41:13.380 die? Like a real core question of our belief. 00:41:14.179 --> 00:41:17.219 And I love the way Josh Howerton, Pastor Josh, 00:41:17.219 --> 00:41:19.900 handled it. He said, I'm glad you asked. That's 00:41:19.900 --> 00:41:23.360 one of my favorite questions to answer. He said, 00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:25.869 but I'm going to answer it with a story. So he 00:41:25.869 --> 00:41:28.349 tells the story why did Jesus have to die on 00:41:28.349 --> 00:41:33.269 the cross? Yeah, why did he have to do it? I'm 00:41:33.269 --> 00:41:37.610 missing his God's son. He's God's only son. Why 00:41:37.610 --> 00:41:40.389 didn't God make another son? Mm -hmm. We got 00:41:40.389 --> 00:41:42.429 a lot of questions there. I mean, I just don't 00:41:42.429 --> 00:41:47.809 it's I Don't fully understand why it had to happen 00:41:47.809 --> 00:41:52.829 if he is God Why couldn't you just forgive exactly? 00:41:52.929 --> 00:41:56.300 Yeah Man, that's like my favorite question to 00:41:56.300 --> 00:42:02.280 answer ever, all right? So, the Bible says that 00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:05.059 God did it that way so that he could be both, 00:42:05.219 --> 00:42:07.639 let me say it and then explain it, so he could 00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:11.619 be both just and the justifier of the ungodly, 00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:16.280 all right? Just and justifier, all right? So, 00:42:17.340 --> 00:42:21.159 my favorite way to illustrate this is by a story, 00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:25.510 okay? So best illustration of why Jesus had died 00:42:25.510 --> 00:42:28.570 on the cross I've ever heard. It goes like this, 00:42:28.590 --> 00:42:32.050 once upon a time in a far -off kingdom, there 00:42:32.050 --> 00:42:34.309 was a king who was known by everyone in the kingdom 00:42:34.309 --> 00:42:37.949 to be the most just and loving king who had ever 00:42:37.949 --> 00:42:41.289 lived. But then it was discovered that somebody 00:42:41.289 --> 00:42:43.949 was stealing from the king's treasury. And so 00:42:43.949 --> 00:42:46.769 the king, being a just king, he sent out an edict. 00:42:47.019 --> 00:42:48.920 that whenever it was discovered who was stealing 00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:51.360 from the king's treasury, that that person would 00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:55.119 receive 10 lashes. Well, the theft continued, 00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:58.059 and so he issued another decree. When it's discovered 00:42:58.059 --> 00:42:59.960 who's stealing from the king's treasury, it'll 00:42:59.960 --> 00:43:03.139 be 20 lashes. The theft continued, 30 lashes, 00:43:03.380 --> 00:43:05.980 until finally the king issued a final decree, 00:43:06.019 --> 00:43:08.480 and he said, when it's discovered who's stealing 00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:11.099 from the king's treasury, it will be a sentence 00:43:11.099 --> 00:43:13.900 of 40 lashes. Now, the problem with that was 00:43:13.900 --> 00:43:18.000 that 40 lashes was a death sentence. And so the 00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:20.860 theft continued until eventually it was discovered 00:43:20.860 --> 00:43:24.800 that none other than the king's daughter was 00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:27.820 the one who was stealing from the treasury. So 00:43:27.820 --> 00:43:30.639 then a question began to ripple through the kingdom. 00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:33.920 What will the king do? Some thought he would 00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:37.860 forgive her, but then how would he be just? Some 00:43:37.860 --> 00:43:40.519 thought that he would issue the sentence, but 00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:44.099 then how would he be loving? Well, it was decided. 00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:46.280 The king sat down and decided, you know what? 00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:50.179 The sentence is just, the punishment must fall, 00:43:50.619 --> 00:43:53.679 and so the decree stands." And so one day the 00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:56.739 entire kingdom was gathered, and in front of 00:43:56.739 --> 00:43:58.659 everybody the king's own daughter was marched 00:43:58.659 --> 00:44:01.760 up to the podium, in front of the entire kingdom, 00:44:02.019 --> 00:44:05.219 and she was bent over the podium, and the back 00:44:05.219 --> 00:44:08.400 of her shirt was ripped open, and the executioner 00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:13.119 stood there, and he began to raise his whip to 00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.440 land the first slash, and as soon as he did, 00:44:15.619 --> 00:44:19.670 the king yelled, Stop. And there was a silence 00:44:19.670 --> 00:44:23.510 that fell. And the king strode forward, and he 00:44:23.510 --> 00:44:26.769 took off his own shirt, and he bent over, and 00:44:26.769 --> 00:44:28.869 he wrapped his body around his own daughter, 00:44:29.429 --> 00:44:31.369 and looked back up over his shoulder, and he 00:44:31.369 --> 00:44:36.230 said, Now, hit her. And the executioner objected, 00:44:36.250 --> 00:44:39.050 and he said, But, King, those lashes, they'll 00:44:39.050 --> 00:44:42.530 fall on you. And he said, The sentence must stand. 00:44:42.690 --> 00:44:47.889 It's just, hit her. And so 40 lashes fell on 00:44:47.889 --> 00:44:51.010 the body of the king that protected the body 00:44:51.010 --> 00:44:54.650 of his daughter, and the king died in the stead 00:44:54.650 --> 00:44:57.150 of his daughter. And what happened, Sean, in 00:44:57.150 --> 00:45:00.710 that story, is the king was both just because 00:45:00.710 --> 00:45:03.849 payment for the sin had to be made, and the king 00:45:03.849 --> 00:45:08.489 was the justifier of the ungodly. She went free 00:45:08.489 --> 00:45:11.570 because he took the penalty. See, the reason 00:45:11.570 --> 00:45:14.510 Jesus had to die on the cross is because God 00:45:14.510 --> 00:45:17.960 is just. So payment for sin has to be made like 00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:21.940 if somebody walked into a courtroom and A judge 00:45:21.940 --> 00:45:24.679 just went you know what man you raped that girl 00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:28.000 when she was young But you're real sorry, and 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:31.519 I have the power to do it. You're forgiven Nobody 00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:36.719 would think that was a just judge So penalty 00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:41.300 for sin had to be made But God is love so he 00:45:41.300 --> 00:45:44.670 made the payment himself That's what the Bible 00:45:44.670 --> 00:45:46.829 means when it says for the wages of sin is death 00:45:46.829 --> 00:45:49.050 But the free gift of God is eternal life through 00:45:49.050 --> 00:45:53.570 Jesus Christ our Lord. Okay? So it's a substitutionary 00:45:53.570 --> 00:45:58.510 Sacrifice in my place condemned he stood Wow 00:45:58.510 --> 00:46:02.610 It's a great explanation that makes sense makes 00:46:02.610 --> 00:46:06.829 perfect sense That's a good story. That is I 00:46:06.829 --> 00:46:09.530 had never heard that analogy before what was 00:46:09.530 --> 00:46:11.949 so remarkable is that he did that off the cuff 00:46:12.110 --> 00:46:17.389 I mean, no notes, just, this is how I understand 00:46:17.389 --> 00:46:22.489 it. And I looked out across, both services were 00:46:22.489 --> 00:46:25.090 packed this Sunday. It was just to the rafters. 00:46:25.150 --> 00:46:27.849 And I was looking out, was watching people's 00:46:27.849 --> 00:46:29.969 response during the story. You could have heard 00:46:29.969 --> 00:46:33.469 a pin drop by the time he got to the punchline 00:46:33.469 --> 00:46:38.030 and the king died. And literally, there were 00:46:38.030 --> 00:46:40.429 people weeping all over the worship center in 00:46:40.429 --> 00:46:42.969 both services. I was blown away. Of course, when 00:46:42.969 --> 00:46:45.369 I saw them crying, well, man, it's like... Did 00:46:45.369 --> 00:46:46.849 you tell the story or did you play the clip? 00:46:46.869 --> 00:46:49.989 No, I played the clip. I played the video clip, 00:46:50.010 --> 00:46:54.349 so they got to see the dynamic there. And man, 00:46:54.789 --> 00:46:59.510 it landed strong. And of course, I just use that 00:46:59.510 --> 00:47:01.610 as a leaping off point to share the good news 00:47:01.610 --> 00:47:06.230 of Jesus Christ, the message, the gospel. and 00:47:06.230 --> 00:47:09.449 hands everywhere. And I called for two things, 00:47:09.849 --> 00:47:13.670 to be reborn for the first time and to re -up. 00:47:14.789 --> 00:47:18.070 Re -up. Oh, re -up is good. It's a military ceremony 00:47:18.070 --> 00:47:20.750 when the guys will re -up their term. I went 00:47:20.750 --> 00:47:23.630 to many of those ceremonies in Abilene at Dias 00:47:23.630 --> 00:47:26.190 Air Force Base, re -up ceremonies where they 00:47:26.190 --> 00:47:28.849 would re -up their time. And so I said, you can 00:47:28.849 --> 00:47:31.349 either re -up or you'd be reborn. Who am I talking 00:47:31.349 --> 00:47:33.710 to? Let me see your hand. Don't be ashamed. Man, 00:47:33.710 --> 00:47:37.570 hands just everywhere. I'll bet. It was so powerful. 00:47:37.849 --> 00:47:41.829 And what I'm seeing is that because as the world 00:47:41.829 --> 00:47:46.230 grows darker, the light shines brighter. And 00:47:46.230 --> 00:47:48.369 there's a biblical scripture for that. It says, 00:47:48.489 --> 00:47:52.130 where sin abounds, grace abounds all the more. 00:47:52.610 --> 00:47:55.210 So the darker the sin gets in the world, the 00:47:55.210 --> 00:47:58.070 darker the world gets, the brighter grace shines. 00:47:58.070 --> 00:48:03.010 Yes. The good news. People are hungry right now. 00:48:03.150 --> 00:48:06.550 I've never in my entire four decades of doing 00:48:06.550 --> 00:48:09.769 this I've never seen more spiritual hunger that 00:48:09.769 --> 00:48:12.309 I'm seeing right now So when I see stuff that's 00:48:12.309 --> 00:48:15.269 dumpster fire, you know worthy in news feeds 00:48:15.269 --> 00:48:18.150 and stuff I'm just going all this is doing even 00:48:18.150 --> 00:48:21.170 though it's hair on fire and craziness people 00:48:21.170 --> 00:48:24.030 are saying I need something bigger than me now. 00:48:24.190 --> 00:48:26.289 Oh, everybody's tried everything. None of it 00:48:26.289 --> 00:48:28.750 works. Right. That's why Jesus is trending. That's 00:48:28.750 --> 00:48:30.190 what I keep telling everybody. Isn't that wild? 00:48:30.690 --> 00:48:33.469 And yet it's the most persecuted people group, 00:48:34.289 --> 00:48:37.230 along with the Jewish people. I mean, it's crazy. 00:48:37.429 --> 00:48:40.869 So let's just look at what's happening in culture. 00:48:41.349 --> 00:48:45.929 And I love that example that Josh Howerton gave 00:48:45.929 --> 00:48:49.250 of a courtroom today, because this question was 00:48:49.250 --> 00:48:56.349 almost literally posed to Francis Gill. Can I 00:48:56.349 --> 00:48:58.329 give the scripture for this? Please. There's 00:48:58.329 --> 00:49:01.289 actually a scripture that says that. It's actually 00:49:01.289 --> 00:49:04.829 Romans 3 .26. It says, it was to show, this is 00:49:04.829 --> 00:49:07.190 the scripture, it was to show his righteousness 00:49:07.190 --> 00:49:09.550 at the present time, Christ's righteousness, 00:49:10.010 --> 00:49:13.690 so that he might be just and the justifier of 00:49:13.690 --> 00:49:16.780 the one who has faith in him. So the one who 00:49:16.780 --> 00:49:19.519 has faith in Christ is the one whom Christ wraps 00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:23.440 his body around and takes the punishment. So 00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:26.920 I just want to land that before you segue. That's 00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:31.059 good because there's some darkness out there. 00:49:32.139 --> 00:49:34.960 And I want to put it into context, but just because 00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.320 that clip ended with that courtroom scenario, 00:49:38.019 --> 00:49:44.579 this is one of the winners of the primaries for 00:49:44.579 --> 00:49:47.039 the Democratic Party. As you know, there's been 00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:50.400 a lot of Democrats, socialists of America, or 00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:55.980 whether they're card carrying or not, so extremely 00:49:55.980 --> 00:50:00.769 liberal left. that the mainstream democrat party 00:50:00.769 --> 00:50:03.070 is kind of in disarray because of what they're 00:50:03.070 --> 00:50:07.030 saying. And this I think was on NBC. Listen to 00:50:07.030 --> 00:50:08.889 this. Right. There are plenty of people who point 00:50:08.889 --> 00:50:11.250 to some very controversial positions that DSA 00:50:11.250 --> 00:50:14.750 takes. Let's talk about some of them. Your policy 00:50:14.750 --> 00:50:17.449 agenda on law enforcement is to defund police, 00:50:17.809 --> 00:50:19.570 ultimately to get rid of police departments. 00:50:19.829 --> 00:50:22.400 Correct? Well, what I would say is that we're 00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.000 dramatically overspending on police right now. 00:50:25.219 --> 00:50:27.219 I understand. The goal is to defund the police 00:50:27.219 --> 00:50:29.300 department so we don't need them in the future. 00:50:29.820 --> 00:50:32.599 I think what we really want to see is a horizon 00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:35.980 where folks are not reliant on armed enforcement 00:50:35.980 --> 00:50:38.539 to meet our public safety needs. Right, but it 00:50:38.539 --> 00:50:41.300 says defund police on the website. That's your 00:50:41.300 --> 00:50:44.619 goal. And also to get rid of prisons and jails, 00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:48.360 correct? Yes. So if my daughter is assaulted 00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:51.460 and raped, is there any agency that would seek 00:50:51.460 --> 00:50:56.179 to find her assailant and bring him to justice? 00:50:56.440 --> 00:50:58.639 Of course, yeah, of course. What would it be 00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:00.599 if not police and where would he be if not a 00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:05.380 jail? So, I guess I really want to avoid getting 00:51:05.380 --> 00:51:07.980 kind of caught into these hypotheticals and talk 00:51:07.980 --> 00:51:09.940 more about the reality that we're actually facing 00:51:09.940 --> 00:51:13.119 right now, which is that we're spending absolutely 00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:16.139 outrageous amounts of money on police and policing 00:51:16.139 --> 00:51:18.239 and we're not spending money on things that actually 00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:20.920 make people safe and feel safe, which is things 00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:23.559 like actually well -lit streets. The streetlights 00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:25.320 in Los Angeles, everybody agrees it's a huge 00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:29.050 problem. Things like mental health care and substance 00:51:29.050 --> 00:51:31.849 use, substance use treatment. So things that 00:51:31.849 --> 00:51:35.449 drive people to commit crimes and to that make 00:51:35.449 --> 00:51:37.829 our society less safe. We're not doing anything 00:51:37.829 --> 00:51:40.190 about the root causes. And instead we're funneling 00:51:40.190 --> 00:51:45.849 money into the into the police. So what you're 00:51:45.849 --> 00:51:49.409 what you're hearing here is actually populism 00:51:49.409 --> 00:51:54.170 to an incredible degree. And I looked up all 00:51:54.170 --> 00:51:58.539 the numbers. When you have a primary, it's interesting 00:51:58.539 --> 00:52:01.159 how few people actually come out to vote in a 00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:04.360 primary. But the way that is played on mainly 00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:09.039 Instagram and Axis, oh my God, another socialist 00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:15.400 one. And sometimes like, did anyone get civics 00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:19.789 in high school? Did anybody learn anything? And 00:52:19.789 --> 00:52:22.489 it's so easy just to get sucked into, oh, wow, 00:52:22.869 --> 00:52:26.250 they're taking over. It's all happening. They're 00:52:26.250 --> 00:52:29.949 winning. Well, these are primaries. And I think 00:52:29.949 --> 00:52:33.329 the same woman here, Gil, I think she actually, 00:52:34.309 --> 00:52:37.070 she was asked a question about who was really 00:52:37.070 --> 00:52:38.831 voting for them in the primaries. She didn't. 00:52:38.829 --> 00:52:40.710 It wasn't asked that way, but it kind of got 00:52:40.710 --> 00:52:43.070 answered that way. Have a listen. Abdul al -Sayed's 00:52:43.070 --> 00:52:45.070 victory. This is the guy that everyone's talking 00:52:45.070 --> 00:52:52.210 about in Michigan, who is well -educated. I think 00:52:52.210 --> 00:52:55.030 he's even a Rhodes scholar, which used to sound 00:52:55.030 --> 00:52:56.769 like a really good thing, but when you see who 00:52:56.769 --> 00:52:58.369 the Rhodes scholars really were, you're like, 00:52:58.650 --> 00:53:02.119 okay, I'm not so sure I like him. But he's got 00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:04.360 a real big mouth. He's really mouthing off. Now, 00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:06.559 he's still, he's only a candidate. You know, 00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:08.420 he hasn't won anything. He's not the senator 00:53:08.420 --> 00:53:10.639 yet. You know, this has to be an actual election. 00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:13.760 But when you hear who did and who didn't vote 00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:16.019 for him in the primary of Democrats, it's only 00:53:16.019 --> 00:53:18.199 Democrats voting for these people, it gets interesting. 00:53:18.340 --> 00:53:21.139 Abdul Al Sayed's victory in the Democratic primary 00:53:21.139 --> 00:53:25.300 in the Senate in Michigan. Of the 15 counties 00:53:25.300 --> 00:53:28.119 where a majority do not have a college degree, 00:53:28.519 --> 00:53:33.119 he lost every one of them, over 15. in the counties 00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:38.659 with high education, like you, he won. So how 00:53:38.659 --> 00:53:41.820 can you say you're for the working class when 00:53:41.820 --> 00:53:44.840 working class counties in Detroit and elsewhere 00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:47.579 voted against your candidate? I think what we're 00:53:47.579 --> 00:53:50.380 seeing is that people who are highly educated 00:53:50.380 --> 00:53:55.940 in this country were promised this path of Economic 00:53:55.940 --> 00:53:59.019 success, if you go to college, if you get the 00:53:59.019 --> 00:54:01.480 degree, if you go down that path, you're going 00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:03.619 to be guaranteed economic success. But really 00:54:03.619 --> 00:54:05.679 what we're seeing is that there's this huge downward 00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:08.119 mobility problem where people are putting in 00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:10.119 the money, taking out hundreds of thousands of 00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:12.519 dollars of student loans. I have a half a million 00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:15.920 dollars in student loan debt personally. And 00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:18.099 not seeing that translate into actual economic 00:54:18.099 --> 00:54:21.460 success because our society, the scales are so 00:54:21.460 --> 00:54:24.530 tipped in one direction to benefit. the rich 00:54:24.530 --> 00:54:27.989 and the wealthy. So this is what I mean by populism. 00:54:28.510 --> 00:54:32.190 She's right. There's an entire generation that 00:54:32.190 --> 00:54:35.789 was told, you go to school, you take out the 00:54:35.789 --> 00:54:37.969 loans, which it just, you're going to get the 00:54:37.969 --> 00:54:40.670 big job. You're going to get the big job. And 00:54:40.670 --> 00:54:44.750 unfortunately, two things happened. One, the 00:54:44.750 --> 00:54:46.949 debt that was created because they're government 00:54:46.949 --> 00:54:50.969 backed loans, which is just an amazing mistake 00:54:50.969 --> 00:54:55.829 on government's behalf. The other one is that 00:54:55.829 --> 00:54:58.230 the degrees they got would have been useless 00:54:58.230 --> 00:55:02.130 in any time. So, you know, gender studies, et 00:55:02.130 --> 00:55:05.369 cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And I saw it with 00:55:05.369 --> 00:55:09.210 their own girls. They got into these woke universities 00:55:09.210 --> 00:55:13.769 and it's like, no, not necessarily really a useful 00:55:13.769 --> 00:55:17.650 degree that you have there. So they're not really 00:55:17.650 --> 00:55:21.809 concerned about anybody than themselves. And 00:55:21.809 --> 00:55:24.599 I'm not saying that it's It sucks because it 00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:27.760 does. They really got gypped, if I can just use 00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:30.820 that word. But at the same time, there's seven 00:55:30.820 --> 00:55:34.179 million jobs available to people who don't even, 00:55:34.179 --> 00:55:37.599 you don't need to have a degree. And these are 00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:40.900 jobs who will pay up to $175, $200 ,000 a year. 00:55:40.900 --> 00:55:43.440 Oh, if you know how to turn a wrench. If you're 00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:45.199 willing to learn how to turn a wrench. Right, 00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:48.849 yes. There is so much, and that's... The real 00:55:48.849 --> 00:55:51.909 message, I'm sorry, but we have to, hey, I might 00:55:51.909 --> 00:55:54.070 have to go learn to how to turn a wrench, you 00:55:54.070 --> 00:56:00.130 know, but the jobs are there. And all of these 00:56:00.130 --> 00:56:03.170 Democrat socialists of America, yeah, you can 00:56:03.170 --> 00:56:06.210 motivate highly educated people through online 00:56:06.210 --> 00:56:09.190 campaigns to come in and vote for someone in 00:56:09.190 --> 00:56:12.530 a primary because the turnout is incredibly low, 00:56:12.909 --> 00:56:15.530 really low. And it's mainly highly educated. 00:56:16.340 --> 00:56:19.719 white girls, to be fair about it, who are voting 00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:23.440 these candidates in for their party. I do not 00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:26.960 think that in a general election, if people actually 00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:31.059 go out and vote, which we have to do, I don't 00:56:31.059 --> 00:56:35.659 think they stand a chance at all. And they really 00:56:35.659 --> 00:56:39.679 only care about everything against Trump. That's 00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:44.320 their entire platform. It's abolish ICE, abolish 00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:51.409 the Senate, Seriously, which is laughable, abolish 00:56:51.409 --> 00:56:55.010 or defund the police, get rid of jails. Open 00:56:55.010 --> 00:56:57.510 the borders again. Literally open the borders 00:56:57.510 --> 00:57:00.250 under the guise of protect our communities. These 00:57:00.250 --> 00:57:04.130 people cannot be taken seriously. But we have 00:57:04.130 --> 00:57:07.869 to be careful because I already see like a defeatist 00:57:07.869 --> 00:57:10.869 attitude. And that's just, that's just people. 00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:15.039 Miss understanding or misrecognizing that they 00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:17.659 didn't win anything yet. They want a primary. 00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:20.579 That's a good point. Adam. Cause I heard Jack 00:57:20.579 --> 00:57:25.699 Hibbs say, you know, only 23 % you know, in, 00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:29.519 in California now identify as Republican. Don't 00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:31.940 worry got that was a bubbling or Christian. I 00:57:31.940 --> 00:57:33.599 thought he said Christian thing was Christian 00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:36.719 So he said basically so it's over for us I mean 00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:39.739 he literally had a complete fatalistic statement, 00:57:39.739 --> 00:57:42.199 which I absolutely disagree with I mean, I'm 00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:44.820 like even Annette was like man. He's just robbing 00:57:44.820 --> 00:57:46.800 people He's basically tell them it doesn't do 00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:50.840 you any good to go vote, right? Man, I That stuff 00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:54.139 gets all over me real quick and you know, I like 00:57:54.139 --> 00:57:56.320 Jack Hibbs from a distance and all of us I've 00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:59.349 liked but man just this alarmist, defeatist, 00:57:59.510 --> 00:58:03.230 fatalistic thinking, that's not even the core 00:58:03.230 --> 00:58:06.269 of Christianity, where it's all about hope. Faith, 00:58:06.269 --> 00:58:09.010 hope, and love. These three remain greatest is 00:58:09.010 --> 00:58:11.110 love. But faith and hope, man, you don't have 00:58:11.110 --> 00:58:13.030 love without faith and hope. They all work together. 00:58:13.130 --> 00:58:15.670 And pray, vote, and multiply. Absolutely. This 00:58:15.670 --> 00:58:18.090 is what we got to do. Get busy. Get busy, young 00:58:18.090 --> 00:58:22.570 man. So to kind of wrap this up, there's a study 00:58:22.570 --> 00:58:24.650 came out of Wharton School of the University 00:58:24.650 --> 00:58:31.260 of Pennsylvania. And it plays into this. Let 00:58:31.260 --> 00:58:33.460 me see where it is here. The study was called 00:58:33.460 --> 00:58:38.340 Thinking Fast, Slow, and Artificial. And the 00:58:38.340 --> 00:58:44.380 researchers, they took over 1 ,000 people and 00:58:44.380 --> 00:58:47.760 they asked some people to solve certain questions 00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:53.079 without an AI chatbot, some to use only an AI 00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:56.139 chatbot, and some to use you know, to just refer 00:58:56.139 --> 00:58:59.579 to it if they felt like it was necessary. Well, 00:58:59.579 --> 00:59:01.639 you'd be amazed that the people who just kind 00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:04.599 of referred to it once in a while didn't do so 00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:09.099 well. And the reason is something they call cognitive 00:59:09.099 --> 00:59:12.159 surrender. And I actually heard about the survey 00:59:12.159 --> 00:59:14.699 on a pastor's podcast. I forget what it was. 00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:16.760 I'll have to look that up. And he was talking 00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:21.179 about pastors doing their sermons with AI. And 00:59:21.179 --> 00:59:25.960 the big problem is that when people are using 00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:28.800 chatbots, robots, AI, whatever you want to call 00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:33.280 it, when the AI is wrong, people still follow 00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:38.960 their advice 80 % of the time. And so if you 00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:42.360 don't know what the outcome is, a chatbot, if 00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:44.000 you don't know what the answer is supposed to 00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:46.659 be, a chatbot is not going to be your friend. 00:59:46.980 --> 00:59:49.920 Agreed. So this happened last night in reverse 00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:53.219 with me. Tina's scrolling Instagram. She says, 00:59:53.389 --> 00:59:59.730 Oh, my. The owner of Royal Blue Grocers was killed. 01:00:00.849 --> 01:00:03.309 Now, Royal Blue Grocers is very famous in Austin. 01:00:03.469 --> 01:00:07.489 They have small little grocery stores. If you're 01:00:07.489 --> 01:00:09.929 an Austinite, you love them. They're expensive. 01:00:09.929 --> 01:00:12.170 Neighborhood grocery stores. But they're very, 01:00:12.170 --> 01:00:15.949 very famous. I'm like, oh, wow. So I go, look, 01:00:15.969 --> 01:00:18.789 I can't find anything on regular searches. I 01:00:18.789 --> 01:00:21.170 go to Gemini and I say, OK, here's what's going 01:00:21.170 --> 01:00:24.769 on. No. This is an online hoax. And I'm saying 01:00:24.769 --> 01:00:28.070 to Tina, it's like, I mean, where are you getting 01:00:28.070 --> 01:00:29.949 this? She says, it's on Instagram. Well, of course, 01:00:29.949 --> 01:00:33.530 I'm always like, okay. But then she says, go 01:00:33.530 --> 01:00:36.449 take a look. And there it is, the official Royal 01:00:36.449 --> 01:00:40.590 Blue Grocers Instagram account. Now, it didn't 01:00:40.590 --> 01:00:42.670 say kill. This was a little interesting thing. 01:00:42.909 --> 01:00:48.750 He said he died suddenly and, gosh, I should 01:00:48.750 --> 01:00:53.619 have written it down. Like like a real quick 01:00:53.619 --> 01:00:56.500 sudden Goodness, I should yeah, that's different 01:00:56.500 --> 01:00:59.059 than being killed No, well and and that's just 01:00:59.059 --> 01:01:01.960 that's easy to misread, you know, that's sure 01:01:01.960 --> 01:01:05.500 I'm not blaming Tina for it. Let me just I want 01:01:05.500 --> 01:01:11.440 to make sure here it is Here it is George Scariano 01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:13.639 junior father husband son brother and friend 01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:16.440 died suddenly and tragically on Thursday, August 01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:19.639 6 so I understand where she might have in her 01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:21.860 brains had killed, depending on whatever she'd 01:01:21.860 --> 01:01:24.820 just read before it. So that's okay. But I go 01:01:24.820 --> 01:01:27.059 to Gemini, I say, no, this happened. No, it didn't, 01:01:27.059 --> 01:01:29.139 because that would be in the news. I say, yep, 01:01:29.139 --> 01:01:32.079 but I'm seeing it on the Instagram post that 01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:34.480 is from the grocery. And so I give it the link. 01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:37.260 It says, well, that link doesn't mean anything 01:01:37.260 --> 01:01:41.360 to me. I said, take a screenshot. And the screenshot, 01:01:41.380 --> 01:01:42.860 and it says, well, that's just a screenshot. 01:01:43.019 --> 01:01:46.719 You've been hoaxed. That's an online fake. Yes, 01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:51.250 I went through, I said, you are so convinced, 01:01:51.449 --> 01:01:55.349 you're so sure of yourself because, you know, 01:01:55.670 --> 01:01:58.130 a community leader like this, then I'm starting 01:01:58.130 --> 01:02:02.210 to think this probably was a suicide because 01:02:02.210 --> 01:02:04.469 they also had, you know, please give money to 01:02:04.469 --> 01:02:08.369 the mental health department of some hospital. 01:02:08.429 --> 01:02:12.750 And so then I say to the robot, well, have you 01:02:12.750 --> 01:02:14.869 considered this? Then all of a sudden it goes, 01:02:14.969 --> 01:02:18.099 you're right. I can, I'm completely. So the point 01:02:18.099 --> 01:02:20.760 is I fought with it just to fight with it. I 01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:22.960 believe what Tino was saying. Cause you're just 01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:25.260 pushing to see how far this will go. And it took 01:02:25.260 --> 01:02:28.000 me eight, nine turns with this thing to get it 01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:31.739 there. So it's like, Jim and I, that's been, 01:02:31.739 --> 01:02:33.780 I mean, it's one you've kind of like, but I, 01:02:33.780 --> 01:02:37.440 but I knew the outcome had to be something closer 01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:41.409 to the truth. So I didn't give into cognitive 01:02:41.409 --> 01:02:43.989 surrender. Good. But when you give into cognitive 01:02:43.989 --> 01:02:47.570 surrender, this is where you start to lose the 01:02:47.570 --> 01:02:51.489 plot. And I believe that this is starting to 01:02:51.489 --> 01:02:54.269 seep into our brains with all kinds of news. 01:02:54.269 --> 01:02:59.210 Totally agree. And the most recent one is, well, 01:02:59.489 --> 01:03:02.670 McKinney, Texas, they approved the mosque. I 01:03:02.670 --> 01:03:05.449 looked that up on Grok. What did you get from 01:03:05.449 --> 01:03:09.650 Grok? Grok said, It went into the Muslim Brotherhood 01:03:09.650 --> 01:03:13.130 100 -Year America Plan. What? And that they're 01:03:13.130 --> 01:03:15.750 50 years into their plan, according to sources. 01:03:16.329 --> 01:03:19.469 What about the mosque approval? Right. And on 01:03:19.469 --> 01:03:21.710 that one, they said the mosque was not, only 01:03:21.710 --> 01:03:24.409 the site work was approved. The mosque, actually, 01:03:24.650 --> 01:03:27.449 that's another. Exactly. But people showed up 01:03:27.449 --> 01:03:31.239 in hordes protesting that. But that that's not 01:03:31.239 --> 01:03:33.679 even the mosque approval. It's just the site 01:03:33.679 --> 01:03:37.280 work for the for the mosque. Potentially, I brought 01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:40.139 a clip new overnight, a step forward for the 01:03:40.139 --> 01:03:42.639 proposed mosque in McKinney. The City Council 01:03:42.639 --> 01:03:44.980 voted just before midnight to approve a site 01:03:44.980 --> 01:03:47.760 plan for that mosque. And Trevor Sahaki joins 01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:50.599 us live from McKinney. Trevor, people who live 01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:52.980 there kind of split on the issue. More than 100 01:03:52.980 --> 01:03:56.280 people gave public comment both for and against. 01:03:56.750 --> 01:03:59.590 Yeah, that's right, Madison. This vote on the 01:03:59.590 --> 01:04:02.429 moss came after more than five and a half hours 01:04:02.429 --> 01:04:05.010 of public comment. But in the end, all seven 01:04:05.010 --> 01:04:07.230 city council members voted unanimously to approve 01:04:07.230 --> 01:04:11.110 the site plan. This motion carries. I vote a 01:04:11.110 --> 01:04:15.360 seven in favor and a zero against. Now, city 01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:17.780 council told residents the vote was procedural, 01:04:17.900 --> 01:04:19.840 saying they were just voting on whether the site 01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:22.320 plan fits the city's ordinances. The proposed 01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:24.440 property would sit near Virginia Parkway and 01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:27.139 Crutcher Crossing. The McKinney Islamic Association 01:04:27.139 --> 01:04:29.420 says it wants to build a dedicated prayer area, 01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:32.880 gym, classrooms, cafeteria, and a community space. 01:04:33.260 --> 01:04:35.039 The group wants to develop the new property to 01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:37.480 accommodate the growing community. So you're 01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:39.820 absolutely right, but this is the part that no 01:04:39.820 --> 01:04:43.710 one really except us, I guess. took the time 01:04:43.710 --> 01:04:51.530 to look up. So in 2024, the McKinney Islamic 01:04:51.530 --> 01:04:55.150 Society, I think they're called, came up with 01:04:55.150 --> 01:04:58.110 a plan and it was like a 40 ,000 square feet 01:04:58.110 --> 01:05:00.929 building. And no, that's not zoned for that. 01:05:00.969 --> 01:05:04.550 So no, they came back. Now it's You know, it's 01:05:04.550 --> 01:05:07.849 fifteen thousand and broken up in a smaller what 01:05:07.849 --> 01:05:10.730 they're doing They're fitting into the requirements 01:05:10.730 --> 01:05:13.389 right into the into the zoning requirement, which 01:05:13.389 --> 01:05:16.789 was not the zoning Requirement was not even done 01:05:16.789 --> 01:05:19.070 by the City Council. It was the previous City 01:05:19.070 --> 01:05:22.570 Council, right? So this is not a mosque has been 01:05:22.570 --> 01:05:24.909 approved and we all have to have our hair on 01:05:24.909 --> 01:05:27.730 fire There's plenty of opportunity for this not 01:05:27.730 --> 01:05:31.880 to take place but If you want to make a change 01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:34.400 in your community, you got to get on the zoning 01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:37.039 committee. You got to get a zoning board. You 01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:40.059 can't just go to the meeting and complain or 01:05:40.059 --> 01:05:44.380 go onto IG and start topping out your fit. And 01:05:44.380 --> 01:05:46.880 that McKinney approved it. We're lost. Texas 01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:49.920 is lost. So can I ask you a question? Because 01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:51.920 you and I have gone around and around about this. 01:05:52.679 --> 01:05:56.960 And is there a level? Yes, we know it's dumpster 01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:00.719 fire stuff, hair on fire stuff. It's fear -mongering. 01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:04.159 We're being taken over by Islam. They're working 01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:07.239 the plan. It's plans are working. Is there a 01:06:07.239 --> 01:06:09.820 level or a place, and where is that, where we 01:06:09.820 --> 01:06:12.900 should start to say, we need to get busy. We 01:06:12.900 --> 01:06:16.539 need to do something. Is there a point where 01:06:16.539 --> 01:06:20.789 we say, Yeah, is this mirroring Europe, but we're 01:06:20.789 --> 01:06:23.210 30 years behind, 50 years behind? Well, this 01:06:23.210 --> 01:06:25.050 is what we talked about on the last show. Yes, 01:06:25.570 --> 01:06:28.610 the time is now. It has been time. But not to 01:06:28.610 --> 01:06:30.489 sit around screaming on Instagram. Okay, I agree 01:06:30.489 --> 01:06:33.389 with that. So what do we do? Get into city council. 01:06:34.269 --> 01:06:38.230 That's what happened. What happened is, in Europe, 01:06:38.489 --> 01:06:42.150 they just let it go. And then people started 01:06:42.150 --> 01:06:45.030 running for office. And then, oh, now these people 01:06:45.030 --> 01:06:48.280 here don't represent my interest in the community 01:06:48.280 --> 01:06:51.659 I'm also a part of. That's it. So are we seeing 01:06:51.659 --> 01:06:54.920 that the beginnings of that? I mean, with Mamdami 01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:57.860 in New York and now, you know, others that have 01:06:57.860 --> 01:06:59.800 been elected, I forget what the number is of 01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:03.699 how many Muslims are now sitting in places of 01:07:03.699 --> 01:07:05.960 authority and leadership in various communities 01:07:05.960 --> 01:07:07.960 across the United States, especially as of the 01:07:07.960 --> 01:07:14.550 last general election. So there seems to be Yes, 01:07:15.449 --> 01:07:18.789 absolutely. So I had dinner with a lobbyist friend 01:07:18.789 --> 01:07:21.449 of ours. I'm not going to say his name. I know 01:07:21.449 --> 01:07:23.429 who it is. Yeah. And I just asked straight up 01:07:23.429 --> 01:07:27.030 questions about that very thing. And he said, 01:07:27.670 --> 01:07:29.730 here's the thing, I disagree with the premise 01:07:29.730 --> 01:07:31.829 that it starts at the local level. He said, if 01:07:31.829 --> 01:07:34.869 we do not deal with the federal level, state 01:07:34.869 --> 01:07:37.050 and federal, he said federal, he didn't say state. 01:07:37.510 --> 01:07:39.429 He said, if we don't deal with it there, the 01:07:39.429 --> 01:07:43.670 trickle down effect is... A community like McKinney, 01:07:43.849 --> 01:07:45.929 even though they are their own county, their 01:07:45.929 --> 01:07:49.710 own state, they're still under federal jurisdiction 01:07:49.710 --> 01:07:53.969 in terms of various laws and what. So they can't 01:07:53.969 --> 01:07:57.269 just shut out or ignore the First Amendment, 01:07:58.230 --> 01:08:00.210 because that's very interpretive, as you know. 01:08:00.449 --> 01:08:04.050 And I said, so then what do we do? If it's not 01:08:04.050 --> 01:08:05.869 getting involved in the local level, what do 01:08:05.869 --> 01:08:08.369 we do? And he told me three things that scared 01:08:08.369 --> 01:08:11.840 the snot out of me. I don't know. You see, I 01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:14.639 disagree. I don't think the mosques are the issue. 01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:17.020 That's why I brought this up. I want you to talk 01:08:17.020 --> 01:08:20.979 about this because I too have adopted... I can't 01:08:20.979 --> 01:08:24.779 maybe impact Washington. I can't run for Senator, 01:08:25.260 --> 01:08:27.579 but I can impact here. But what do people want 01:08:27.579 --> 01:08:30.060 to do? You want to outlaw Scientology? You want 01:08:30.060 --> 01:08:34.680 to outlaw... Look, if you have someone speaking, 01:08:35.779 --> 01:08:39.399 which is a problem, speaking seditious language 01:08:39.399 --> 01:08:41.750 against the United States, Guess what? That's 01:08:41.750 --> 01:08:44.130 protected under the First Amendment. Right. Just 01:08:44.130 --> 01:08:47.050 like you're protected in your pulpit. Right. 01:08:47.449 --> 01:08:50.729 But who is controlling our local community? Who 01:08:50.729 --> 01:08:53.550 controls whether whatever kind of building is 01:08:53.550 --> 01:08:56.050 built? Right. You know, I wouldn't necessarily 01:08:56.050 --> 01:08:59.569 want to sign. I wouldn't want a Scientology headquarters 01:08:59.569 --> 01:09:02.529 here either. It's local and county commissions. 01:09:02.630 --> 01:09:05.369 So, you know, what I hear is this, and I think 01:09:05.369 --> 01:09:08.270 it's a cop out. I felt fatalistic when he said 01:09:08.270 --> 01:09:11.119 it. It's a cop out. It's to go say, well, We 01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:13.720 got to have a law against Islam, declare it not 01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:16.939 a religion. A good luck. Right. Good luck. Yeah, 01:09:16.939 --> 01:09:18.579 you're fighting the Constitution there. But I 01:09:18.579 --> 01:09:22.680 saw this happen for 25 years. That's why I think 01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:25.159 we have a long way to go before we're in trouble. 01:09:25.460 --> 01:09:28.739 However, if we see that train coming, if it's 01:09:28.739 --> 01:09:30.640 like, you know, the title of Eric Clapton, slow 01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:33.659 train coming. Start now. Then we need to do something 01:09:33.659 --> 01:09:36.319 now. And I think what people would like to know, 01:09:36.739 --> 01:09:40.289 what do we do? Well, you're doing it. when the 01:09:40.289 --> 01:09:42.789 Texas School Board Commission wanted to know, 01:09:43.130 --> 01:09:46.250 okay, what goes into the curriculum? You and 01:09:46.250 --> 01:09:49.630 Annette and other people from our community went 01:09:49.630 --> 01:09:53.109 to the state level and said, no, no, we want 01:09:53.109 --> 01:09:56.210 this, we don't want that. And I believe we were 01:09:56.210 --> 01:10:00.710 successful. And what they wanted was no Ten Commandments, 01:10:01.189 --> 01:10:04.470 Koran, other things. No Bible stories to teach 01:10:04.470 --> 01:10:09.529 literature. That is how it's done. I appreciate 01:10:09.529 --> 01:10:11.949 the lobbyist. From now on, just going to be known 01:10:11.949 --> 01:10:15.090 as the Hill Country lobbyist. The lobbyist. If 01:10:15.090 --> 01:10:16.609 he's listening, you'll be laughing right now. 01:10:16.630 --> 01:10:20.529 No, and that's fine. No, yeah, it is. But I just 01:10:20.529 --> 01:10:23.369 really don't agree. If you don't want that stuff, 01:10:23.850 --> 01:10:26.949 don't go on your text group or Instagram like, 01:10:27.210 --> 01:10:32.670 oh, no. You need to get off your blessed assurance. 01:10:32.670 --> 01:10:34.779 Thank you, brother. I was going to say it if 01:10:34.779 --> 01:10:37.479 you didn't. And you've got to do something. Yeah. 01:10:37.699 --> 01:10:41.939 You know, we as a church, we wanted to get leadership 01:10:41.939 --> 01:10:44.979 here in Fredericksburg that we agreed with, who 01:10:44.979 --> 01:10:48.579 agreed with our principles, our ideas of what 01:10:48.579 --> 01:10:51.920 our community values should be about, thought 01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:54.039 that the other candidate might not represent 01:10:54.039 --> 01:10:57.859 those entirely. So we went to town. That's what 01:10:57.859 --> 01:11:02.180 it is. Don't think that the DSA and the DSA are 01:11:02.180 --> 01:11:08.739 the ones who, it's always the left and the, it's 01:11:08.739 --> 01:11:12.060 always the left who will go with these types 01:11:12.060 --> 01:11:16.560 of groups, like political Islamists. It's documented. 01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:19.140 This is exactly what happened in Amsterdam, in 01:11:19.140 --> 01:11:23.930 Rotterdam, in London, in the Netherlands. because 01:11:23.930 --> 01:11:26.069 that's really what had the most experience in 01:11:26.069 --> 01:11:28.250 the Netherlands nationally. Now they have a parliamentary 01:11:28.250 --> 01:11:32.369 system which has other problems. So we're not 01:11:32.369 --> 01:11:35.130 exactly in the same boat and we have regular 01:11:35.130 --> 01:11:39.130 elections. So, you know, New York, it's going 01:11:39.130 --> 01:11:41.970 to be up to New York. If New York is real happy, 01:11:42.170 --> 01:11:44.050 if everyone's really grooving in a couple of 01:11:44.050 --> 01:11:46.409 years when it's time for the mayoral election, 01:11:46.449 --> 01:11:49.050 I think it's six years, you know, you can also 01:11:49.050 --> 01:11:51.609 impeach somebody. But if they're still really 01:11:51.609 --> 01:11:54.750 happy and it's moving and grooving, which I doubt, 01:11:55.329 --> 01:11:58.189 then they'll keep going that way. But this is 01:11:58.189 --> 01:12:01.729 America. We have fought for our freedom and for 01:12:01.729 --> 01:12:04.210 what we believe and for our values. We fought 01:12:04.210 --> 01:12:06.970 for that. We'll just fight for it again. Exactly. 01:12:07.270 --> 01:12:10.149 And that's it. So I'm not, I think it's a cop 01:12:10.149 --> 01:12:12.710 out to say it has to be changed at the federal 01:12:12.710 --> 01:12:15.689 level. I see, oh, Abbott, how come you're not 01:12:15.689 --> 01:12:18.729 fixing, Ken Paxson, where are you now? And this, 01:12:18.869 --> 01:12:23.270 you know, it's like, stop banging on the keyboard, 01:12:23.930 --> 01:12:28.149 get up and organize and do something. And I truly, 01:12:28.329 --> 01:12:33.609 I've seen it. I think our pastors, our priests, 01:12:34.050 --> 01:12:38.590 our rabbis, whoever it is, they organize people. 01:12:38.930 --> 01:12:42.350 If you can get 700 people, 800 people on a Sunday 01:12:42.350 --> 01:12:45.470 to come listen to you, then you can organize 01:12:45.470 --> 01:12:49.439 them. to at least prayerfully vote for who they 01:12:49.439 --> 01:12:52.119 want to. Which we did. Which we did. Or stand 01:12:52.119 --> 01:12:55.239 to vote. And we all know now that you have the 01:12:55.239 --> 01:12:58.260 right to be political, too. Which was a scam 01:12:58.260 --> 01:13:00.520 of epic proportion with the Johnson Amendment. 01:13:00.619 --> 01:13:05.100 Which set us back decades. Decades. So I get 01:13:05.100 --> 01:13:06.880 really fired up about that. I'm glad I did that 01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:08.560 on purpose, you know. No, it's good. I poured 01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:12.640 gasoline on the fire because I, too, am beating 01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:16.380 the drum of I may not be able to impact Long 01:13:16.380 --> 01:13:19.579 game, I can. Short game, I can't impact Washington, 01:13:19.699 --> 01:13:21.899 but I can impact Fredericksburg, Texas. Yes, 01:13:21.899 --> 01:13:24.500 but what does the lobbyist say? What do we have 01:13:24.500 --> 01:13:28.039 to do at the federal level? What is like outlaw 01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:30.239 Islam? He literally said, I don't know. We got 01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:32.439 to elect the right people. And I'm going to go 01:13:32.439 --> 01:13:35.539 on. But at the federal level, we have very limited 01:13:35.539 --> 01:13:38.460 impact on who's elected at that level. I mean, 01:13:38.460 --> 01:13:40.760 we can go out. We'll continue to vote. But what 01:13:40.760 --> 01:13:42.880 can an elected person do? What can a lawmaker 01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:46.609 do? They have to represent us. Right, but we 01:13:46.609 --> 01:13:52.390 have a very clear constitution. Just because 01:13:52.390 --> 01:13:56.170 you can't make laws against what people believe 01:13:56.170 --> 01:13:58.270 and what they're thinking, doesn't mean you can't 01:13:58.270 --> 01:14:00.689 make laws about what building is placed somewhere. 01:14:01.229 --> 01:14:04.510 You can make laws about that. You can have dress 01:14:04.510 --> 01:14:09.369 code laws if you want. You can outlaw dancing. 01:14:09.529 --> 01:14:12.510 Hello, Footloose. You can literally do whatever 01:14:12.510 --> 01:14:15.239 you do, but you can't curtail freedom of speech 01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:19.319 or free freedom of religion. So instead of like 01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:23.250 this crazy stupid. We've got to outlaw Islam. 01:14:23.250 --> 01:14:25.729 Tell them it's not a religion. Good luck. Yeah, 01:14:25.729 --> 01:14:28.130 that's not gonna happen. Pastafarians everywhere 01:14:28.130 --> 01:14:30.430 unite. That's not gonna happen, bro. It's not 01:14:30.430 --> 01:14:33.390 gonna happen. No. So, but you can do all these 01:14:33.390 --> 01:14:34.909 other things. But we also don't need to show 01:14:34.909 --> 01:14:38.189 up in meetings with pitchforks. No. Wrong. Exactly. 01:14:38.550 --> 01:14:41.289 And flamethrowers because we're mad. No, because 01:14:41.289 --> 01:14:43.930 we're mad at ourselves for not doing it earlier. 01:14:44.149 --> 01:14:46.630 Exactly. But also it leaks over in very much 01:14:46.630 --> 01:14:50.319 ungodliness. As a follower of Jesus, I have a 01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:55.199 responsibility to say yes to obedience and no 01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:57.739 to impulse. A lot of this is what we're talking 01:14:57.739 --> 01:15:02.039 about is impulse, control, lack of. We get upset, 01:15:02.180 --> 01:15:05.640 we get outraged, we see a video, a clip, a 12 01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:08.979 -second clip or a headline, alert, alert, breaking 01:15:08.979 --> 01:15:15.539 news. We just forget who we are, who we say we 01:15:15.539 --> 01:15:17.659 are, and we start acting like something we're 01:15:17.659 --> 01:15:21.819 not. And yet we think we're doing it in the name 01:15:21.819 --> 01:15:26.180 of righteousness in God. That's dangerous. What 01:15:26.180 --> 01:15:29.079 scripture can we apply to this? Because we're 01:15:29.079 --> 01:15:33.239 doing the opposite. Well, it's any of the wisdom 01:15:33.239 --> 01:15:37.000 scriptures. We're to act and walk in the wisdom. 01:15:37.079 --> 01:15:40.079 We've been given the mind of Christ. He says, 01:15:40.810 --> 01:15:43.510 You've not been given a spirit of fear because 01:15:43.510 --> 01:15:45.529 this is what these things are. They're fear -driven, 01:15:45.930 --> 01:15:48.369 right? Yes. So, Timothy 1 -7, you've not been 01:15:48.369 --> 01:15:51.970 given a spirit of fear, but of power and of love 01:15:51.970 --> 01:15:54.590 and of a sound mind, the ability to think well. 01:15:54.869 --> 01:15:56.729 There's your scripture. Yeah. Because what's 01:15:56.729 --> 01:15:59.649 happening, people are getting to the first gate, 01:15:59.890 --> 01:16:03.170 which is fear, and they don't get past that to 01:16:03.170 --> 01:16:05.350 power, love, and a sound mind, the ability to 01:16:05.350 --> 01:16:07.609 think well. Man, we got to keep running through 01:16:07.609 --> 01:16:10.159 that scripture and get to the end. It's one thing 01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:12.300 to have a reaction, a visceral reaction, because 01:16:12.300 --> 01:16:14.300 man, that's what these are designed to do, right? 01:16:14.420 --> 01:16:18.239 These news feeds, they're vying for your attention. 01:16:18.420 --> 01:16:21.140 It's all about your attention. It's gaslighting. 01:16:21.159 --> 01:16:24.000 It's totally that. But you've got to get past 01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:27.039 that too. Wait a minute. No, no, no. I refuse 01:16:27.039 --> 01:16:31.539 to walk in fear. I refuse to toss it. I refuse 01:16:31.539 --> 01:16:34.039 to say, I don't know. There's nothing we can 01:16:34.039 --> 01:16:37.239 do. That's as un -American as it gets. I'm with 01:16:37.239 --> 01:16:38.859 you on that. To think that there's nothing we 01:16:38.859 --> 01:16:42.180 can do. Man, just tell our founding fathers that 01:16:42.180 --> 01:16:45.319 who gave their lives, their fortunes, and their 01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:48.119 sacred honor for this. So anyway, I'm with you 01:16:48.119 --> 01:16:50.220 on that. I'm stirred up about it as well. So 01:16:50.220 --> 01:16:53.619 instead of running around with pitchforks and 01:16:53.619 --> 01:16:58.579 torches, let's get strategic. Let's think well. 01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:01.539 Let's calm down so we can think well because 01:17:01.539 --> 01:17:04.020 you cannot make good decisions when you're in 01:17:04.020 --> 01:17:07.520 a cortisol dump. I get a little fired up too. 01:17:08.700 --> 01:17:11.640 Let's uh, we gotta, we gotta land this, but yeah, 01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:15.079 we, we turned into no agenda here. Three hours 01:17:15.079 --> 01:17:20.960 with Jesus. So we do have an agenda. We got a 01:17:20.960 --> 01:17:24.300 Jesus agenda. Yep, we do. Gotcha. Um, we asked 01:17:24.300 --> 01:17:28.640 people, um, to come up with names for, uh, people 01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:31.779 who listen and write in and comment and are a 01:17:31.779 --> 01:17:35.460 part of our, we get to do this audience. I'm 01:17:35.460 --> 01:17:37.000 going to run through a couple because we got 01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:42.560 quite a few. We got Paul of Frogden Hill said, 01:17:42.699 --> 01:17:47.760 doers, and he referred to James 1 .22, don't 01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:49.960 just listen to God's word, you must do what it 01:17:49.960 --> 01:17:52.359 says, otherwise you are only fooling yourselves. 01:17:53.500 --> 01:17:55.720 Todd Allen came up with a whole bunch of them. 01:17:56.140 --> 01:17:57.779 I'm just going to list them. I mean, I don't 01:17:57.779 --> 01:18:01.079 agree with all of them, but crusaders, saints, 01:18:01.460 --> 01:18:04.460 stewards, apprentice, companions, guardians, 01:18:04.960 --> 01:18:08.800 vanguard, maybe. Windy, our own Windy, Windy 01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:13.739 Winstead. She said, the get -to crew, which I 01:18:13.739 --> 01:18:16.460 kind of like the get -to crew. And she also said, 01:18:16.579 --> 01:18:20.039 maybe we should just be leaky buckets. I love 01:18:20.039 --> 01:18:24.340 how you're thinking, Windy. But see, this one, 01:18:24.380 --> 01:18:27.319 I don't know who sent this. Faith Weavers, Weavers, 01:18:27.420 --> 01:18:32.159 the faithful testifiers. Michael Anastasio, who 01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:34.579 donated again today, we'll get to that. He said, 01:18:35.720 --> 01:18:40.770 devotees. I don't know about devotees. Casey 01:18:40.770 --> 01:18:48.489 Van Heel, doers, we get to doers or do -gooders. 01:18:49.229 --> 01:18:51.630 He said, we need to change the name of our podcast. 01:18:51.970 --> 01:18:56.949 We could also get we get to do bags. That's pretty 01:18:56.949 --> 01:18:58.470 funny. I know where that's coming from. I like 01:18:58.470 --> 01:19:00.909 that we get to do bags. That's pretty funny. 01:19:02.510 --> 01:19:07.670 Another one for doers from Carl Markley. Several 01:19:07.670 --> 01:19:11.810 people came up with Dewars. So, I don't know, 01:19:11.829 --> 01:19:14.569 I think it's still up in the air. What did you 01:19:14.569 --> 01:19:16.590 have before we started? At the beginning, you 01:19:16.590 --> 01:19:19.229 said - I'm leaning towards Get -To Nation. Get 01:19:19.229 --> 01:19:22.470 -To Nation? Get -To, like Gitmo, Get -To. It's 01:19:22.470 --> 01:19:24.449 got a vibe, it's got rhyme, it's got a flow. 01:19:24.930 --> 01:19:28.569 I like the idea of nation, because I'm one of 01:19:28.569 --> 01:19:31.670 those Christian nationalists. I like the name, 01:19:31.750 --> 01:19:36.210 so I'm not averse to this at all. I'm leaning 01:19:36.210 --> 01:19:39.430 that way, but man, I love hearing these. I appreciate 01:19:39.430 --> 01:19:43.930 people putting a moment into this. People love 01:19:43.930 --> 01:19:46.229 doing these things. That's cool. Now I want to 01:19:46.229 --> 01:19:49.130 thank some people who supported us. We are value 01:19:49.130 --> 01:19:53.210 for value. That means whatever value you get 01:19:53.210 --> 01:19:55.949 from the show, we just love it if you send that 01:19:55.949 --> 01:20:00.310 back to us. Time, talent, treasure. It's all 01:20:00.310 --> 01:20:03.449 highly appreciated. And man, we got some really 01:20:03.449 --> 01:20:09.229 nice donations for today's show. WGTDTdonations 01:20:09.229 --> 01:20:12.449 .com. Of course, you want to sign up to the the 01:20:12.449 --> 01:20:16.489 sub stack WGTDT .com. So you get the newsletter, 01:20:16.670 --> 01:20:19.250 you get the episodes with the show notes when 01:20:19.250 --> 01:20:21.670 they come out. And that's also where the community 01:20:21.670 --> 01:20:24.010 is starting to build. We got comments everywhere. 01:20:24.930 --> 01:20:28.539 You know, some interesting ones. But that's it's 01:20:28.539 --> 01:20:30.640 all good when you're talking about right off 01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:35.020 the bat we got five hundred dollars from Now 01:20:35.020 --> 01:20:37.859 there was no note associated, but this is from 01:20:37.859 --> 01:20:42.119 Jill and Mike. Oh I love those guys that I mean, 01:20:42.279 --> 01:20:44.720 they're gonna keep mr. Chevy for us. They took 01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:47.579 care of that cool. They're amazing Thank you 01:20:47.579 --> 01:20:50.699 so much. Thank you guys. You can't hide under 01:20:50.699 --> 01:20:53.539 under J Mitchell H You can't you can't hide you 01:20:53.539 --> 01:20:56.630 can't hide from from us. Thank you so much We 01:20:56.630 --> 01:21:01.930 got $333 .33 from Brett. And of course, we're 01:21:01.930 --> 01:21:03.890 reading the notes for people who send stuff in. 01:21:04.470 --> 01:21:06.210 Adam and Jimmy, first off, love the podcast. 01:21:06.470 --> 01:21:08.149 Adam, I've been watching you since I was about 01:21:08.149 --> 01:21:12.649 five years old. Going all the way back to Dial 01:21:12.649 --> 01:21:16.090 MTV. Also a longtime No Agenda listener, Rest 01:21:16.090 --> 01:21:19.050 In Peace, JCD. I also worked with Mevio in the 01:21:19.050 --> 01:21:21.489 past life. Wow. But I'll save that story for 01:21:21.489 --> 01:21:24.359 another time. I recently found my relationship 01:21:24.359 --> 01:21:27.079 with God. Adam, hearing about your journey has 01:21:27.079 --> 01:21:29.399 been really inspiring. I've been listening to 01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:32.659 WGTDT since episode one. Love what you guys are 01:21:32.659 --> 01:21:34.880 doing. Really hope more and more people find 01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:37.180 the show and the message along with some treasure. 01:21:37.520 --> 01:21:41.220 333 .33 donation through Stripe. End time, I 01:21:41.220 --> 01:21:42.939 wanted to share a little talent too. I made a 01:21:42.939 --> 01:21:46.960 deep house track using Genesis 1 1 6 as the lyrics 01:21:46.960 --> 01:21:49.640 and created a video that visualizes the words 01:21:49.640 --> 01:21:53.550 through semantics. And we'll put that in the 01:21:53.550 --> 01:21:55.609 show notes. Cool. Yes, just wanted to share with 01:21:55.609 --> 01:21:58.430 you guys. Thanks for what you're doing. God bless 01:21:58.430 --> 01:22:03.350 you both. Person of Merit Comics. It's Casey 01:22:03.350 --> 01:22:09.569 Van Heel. $177 .77. So this is a variation on 01:22:09.569 --> 01:22:13.590 the $77 .77. Thanks, Casey. This is for the A 01:22:13.590 --> 01:22:17.439 &J Faith Factory. There you go. There's a t -shirt, 01:22:17.640 --> 01:22:20.579 A &J Faith Factory. I started listening after 01:22:20.579 --> 01:22:23.819 the Robin Peter incident when good old JCD accused 01:22:23.819 --> 01:22:27.640 Adam of reusing clips and content from WGTDT 01:22:27.640 --> 01:22:30.039 for the No Agenda Show. So if it's good enough 01:22:30.039 --> 01:22:32.020 for No Agenda, then it's good enough for me. 01:22:32.020 --> 01:22:34.220 Oh, that's great. Getting introduced to the lovely 01:22:34.220 --> 01:22:36.300 Pastor Jimmy and Adam's journey to Christ couldn't 01:22:36.300 --> 01:22:38.920 have come at a better time for me. I lost my 01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:41.640 father to cancer along with housing and job woes. 01:22:41.640 --> 01:22:44.739 Then the loss of JCD felt like the hits. just 01:22:44.739 --> 01:22:47.539 wouldn't stop coming. Absolutely nothing like 01:22:47.539 --> 01:22:53.899 the faith -filled chart toppers of A &JFF. I'm 01:22:53.899 --> 01:22:56.000 not quite sure what he's saying there. Your conversations, 01:22:56.119 --> 01:22:58.520 perspective, and faith have helped to keep the 01:22:58.520 --> 01:23:02.220 rails under my wheels. Also, he's the one that 01:23:02.220 --> 01:23:06.000 suggested we get to do gooders and we get to 01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:10.539 do bags. We appreciate it, Casey. Thank you very 01:23:10.539 --> 01:23:13.840 much. There's Michael Anastasio with $150. Thank 01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:17.420 you very much. He says, Brothers, have you thought 01:23:17.420 --> 01:23:21.600 about calling your supporters devotees? It sounds 01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:24.319 a little too fan -ish. A little churchy. Churchy. 01:23:24.340 --> 01:23:26.899 Thank you, Michael. Coming from the pastor, that's 01:23:26.899 --> 01:23:30.359 too churchy. But thank you. Jurlee Herbert from 01:23:30.359 --> 01:23:33.819 Austin, Texas. You remember Julie? She actually, 01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:37.619 I think she's the one that... Does she connect 01:23:37.619 --> 01:23:41.500 us to Bridge? Wait, that was Peggy. Well, Julie, 01:23:41.699 --> 01:23:44.199 Messianic Jew, been a friend of ours for a long, 01:23:44.199 --> 01:23:46.760 long time. She's awesome, and her husband, amazing. 01:23:46.939 --> 01:23:49.119 Ben, yes. Hundred dollars. Love hearing about 01:23:49.119 --> 01:23:50.819 what's happening in the world from a biblical 01:23:50.819 --> 01:23:53.699 perspective. It's really needed in today's world. 01:23:53.800 --> 01:23:56.579 Keep up the great work. P .S. I really enjoyed 01:23:56.579 --> 01:23:59.479 reading Theo of Golden. Oh, you know what? I 01:23:59.479 --> 01:24:01.420 started that book. Tina's been reading it. She 01:24:01.420 --> 01:24:03.220 says... I read the first chapter. I'm like, okay, 01:24:03.260 --> 01:24:05.899 I'm in. I'm going to keep going. It's not like 01:24:05.899 --> 01:24:08.840 the secret. No, no. I feel good about it. I did 01:24:08.840 --> 01:24:10.979 some research on the guy. So he's all... He's 01:24:10.979 --> 01:24:15.460 legit. It's good. SirAraDudarian, BigNoAgendaName, 01:24:15.539 --> 01:24:18.920 $100. Episode 44 was the first episode I listened 01:24:18.920 --> 01:24:23.100 to Pastor Jimmy. It's nice to make your acquaintance. 01:24:23.399 --> 01:24:25.579 Adam, I cannot tell you how much it pleases me 01:24:25.579 --> 01:24:27.420 to know you're on this path. Stay the course. 01:24:27.800 --> 01:24:31.300 I did not know Erededarian was a believer. He's 01:24:31.300 --> 01:24:34.039 been supporting No Agenda, I think since episode 01:24:34.039 --> 01:24:39.819 one. Amazing. It's great. Walter Bartels, $100. 01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:42.039 Thanks, Walter. So happy to see you guys doing 01:24:42.039 --> 01:24:44.479 this media deconstruction with a focus on our 01:24:44.479 --> 01:24:47.319 heavenly kingdom. Don't forget to pray for your 01:24:47.319 --> 01:24:49.260 Canadian neighbors up north. We could definitely 01:24:49.260 --> 01:24:51.279 use it. Absolutely. I am a hearty man. I'm all 01:24:51.279 --> 01:24:56.180 about Canada night these days. I was standing 01:24:56.180 --> 01:24:58.659 outside the bank with Mimi and we were waiting 01:24:58.659 --> 01:25:03.220 for our for our Ubers and this guy comes up and 01:25:03.220 --> 01:25:06.199 he says, could you spare a few dollars? I said, 01:25:06.319 --> 01:25:09.020 sure. So I literally pull out some dollars. So 01:25:09.020 --> 01:25:11.810 he go, he says, Can I pray for you, brother?" 01:25:11.810 --> 01:25:14.850 I'm like, yeah. And man, he went to town. I'm 01:25:14.850 --> 01:25:16.649 like, I'm holding onto his shoulder. He's going 01:25:16.649 --> 01:25:20.789 to town. He's like, you know, the Lord has big 01:25:20.789 --> 01:25:23.569 things in store for you. And we rebuke you, Satan. 01:25:23.630 --> 01:25:26.630 I'm like, yes, we rebuke you. And then I said, 01:25:26.789 --> 01:25:28.430 amen, brother. And then he fist bump me. He said, 01:25:28.430 --> 01:25:31.050 I'll see you in his kingdom, man. I'll see you 01:25:31.050 --> 01:25:33.850 there. And I just, I felt so good. And Mimi said, 01:25:34.029 --> 01:25:42.590 well, that was cute. You're like all, I loved 01:25:42.590 --> 01:25:45.550 it. I loved it. I didn't know it. Can I pray 01:25:45.550 --> 01:25:47.289 for you? That is so cool. Bring it to me. Man, 01:25:47.430 --> 01:25:53.329 I love it. Timothy Hoytner, 77 -77, Matthew 7 01:25:53.329 --> 01:25:56.289 -7. Cool. Dear brothers, please pray for our 01:25:56.289 --> 01:25:58.909 friends, the Maitland family. There are people 01:25:58.909 --> 01:26:01.289 here who love them and need wisdom and knowing 01:26:01.289 --> 01:26:03.409 the best way to help. Thank you very much from 01:26:03.409 --> 01:26:06.369 the Hoytner family. So the Maitland. family is 01:26:06.369 --> 01:26:08.989 on the list. Thanks, Timothy. Steve Weiss. Now, 01:26:08.989 --> 01:26:11.909 remember, we taped our show a little bit earlier 01:26:11.909 --> 01:26:14.609 in the last episode. So Steve Weiss came in twice 01:26:14.609 --> 01:26:19.829 with 7777. Steve and Stephanie with more striper 01:26:19.829 --> 01:26:21.689 numbers. That's right. It is a striper donation. 01:26:22.510 --> 01:26:24.649 Adam's journey continues to be an inspiration. 01:26:24.890 --> 01:26:27.510 Tina was also the spark that lit our fire a few 01:26:27.510 --> 01:26:30.170 years ago. And Pastor Jimmy and Annette are fuel 01:26:30.170 --> 01:26:33.970 to the fire. So just love that. We so appreciate 01:26:33.970 --> 01:26:38.720 you. Yes. Darius Walker. Uh, he, uh, goodness, 01:26:38.819 --> 01:26:42.300 I need to talk about his book. He, uh, he did 01:26:42.300 --> 01:26:45.380 a, uh, a pictorial book of his time in, I think 01:26:45.380 --> 01:26:52.359 Afghanistan. He's a veteran 77 14 moving my WV 01:26:52.359 --> 01:26:55.979 Hill donation of West Virginia Hill country to 01:26:55.979 --> 01:26:59.960 WGTDT. Though I'll miss the old no agenda and 01:26:59.960 --> 01:27:02.300 will still listen, this is more my thing as a 01:27:02.300 --> 01:27:05.399 20 -year bivocational pastor of a small community 01:27:05.399 --> 01:27:08.119 church in West Virginia. God bless you both, 01:27:08.300 --> 01:27:11.060 Darius Walker, Charleston, West Virginia. And 01:27:11.060 --> 01:27:14.659 there is Prahl Vogt and Hill. $50. Love this 01:27:14.659 --> 01:27:17.159 podcast. Been listening since launch. I especially 01:27:17.159 --> 01:27:19.060 like it when you discuss current events from 01:27:19.060 --> 01:27:21.380 a Christian worldview. I think that's kind of 01:27:21.380 --> 01:27:23.680 our sweet spot. I love that. That's where we're 01:27:23.680 --> 01:27:26.579 at. Edwin Torres, $50. God bless you both. God 01:27:26.579 --> 01:27:30.119 bless you. Cameron Dodd, 30. Loving the new, 01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:32.819 to me, show. Thank you for all you both do. Then 01:27:32.819 --> 01:27:36.220 we have $10 .80 from Kip Hoffman and $10 .61 01:27:36.220 --> 01:27:39.399 from Kip Hoffman. Is that me? I'm sorry. I hear 01:27:39.399 --> 01:27:46.220 music. Yeah. John's Creek Studios, $5 .65. And 01:27:46.220 --> 01:27:49.460 Dwayne Spellman Jr., he comes in with $1 .53 01:27:49.460 --> 01:27:51.640 for every single show, so we had two of those. 01:27:51.880 --> 01:27:54.060 Thanks, brothers. And thank you, brothers and 01:27:54.060 --> 01:27:58.079 sisters, for all of your support. WGTDTdonations 01:27:58.079 --> 01:28:02.739 .com, WGTDT .com for on the sub stack. And you 01:28:02.739 --> 01:28:06.020 can subscribe there and do all the good things. 01:28:06.520 --> 01:28:08.420 I'm trying to remember who gave us the coins. 01:28:09.200 --> 01:28:12.220 From last time we didn't get challenge coins. 01:28:12.220 --> 01:28:14.640 Yeah, the challenge coins. I thought I had them 01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:16.840 right here in my bag I literally thought I had 01:28:16.840 --> 01:28:20.739 them with me And I apologize. Yeah, I'm feeling 01:28:20.739 --> 01:28:23.100 better myself. They're super cool, man. I love 01:28:23.100 --> 01:28:25.579 them I think they must be on my desk at the house 01:28:25.579 --> 01:28:29.779 Because I was going to really I was going to 01:28:29.779 --> 01:28:32.060 thank I just totally went through my bag all 01:28:32.060 --> 01:28:34.420 I know I'm looking forward as well, you know 01:28:34.420 --> 01:28:37.520 now we have the PO box we also got I want to 01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:45.420 thank Arthur. Yeah, this is a really heavy note 01:28:45.420 --> 01:28:47.720 from Arthur. It's addressed to you, so I'm going 01:28:47.720 --> 01:28:50.239 to give that to you. He sent that to the P .O. 01:28:50.539 --> 01:28:55.359 box. He's hanging on to his faith and we pray 01:28:55.359 --> 01:28:57.859 him for you, brother. Absolutely. I cannot believe 01:28:57.859 --> 01:29:00.739 it that I feel so bad about that. I know I put 01:29:00.739 --> 01:29:03.300 it in my bag and I kept dropping things on it. 01:29:03.479 --> 01:29:05.220 I didn't want to damage those coins, you know, 01:29:05.279 --> 01:29:07.319 so I think I must have set them on my desk. I 01:29:07.319 --> 01:29:14.960 apologize. Was it the Star Wars? Yes. Yes. That's 01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:16.560 what it was. Did we talk about that? I don't 01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:18.539 think so. I think you said, hey, bring this next 01:29:18.539 --> 01:29:21.739 week so we can talk about it. And I failed. We 01:29:21.739 --> 01:29:23.899 received it and we'll make good on it. They're 01:29:23.899 --> 01:29:27.720 very cool. Yeah. So yeah, we have a PO box. You 01:29:27.720 --> 01:29:32.159 can find everything at WGTDT .com. Wow, brother. 01:29:33.100 --> 01:29:35.600 I love doing this. This is so much. I've been 01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:38.199 looking forward to this. Me too. And man, I love 01:29:38.199 --> 01:29:41.560 that you got fired up today. That was fun. You 01:29:41.560 --> 01:29:44.659 know the trigger. You know exactly. You did that 01:29:44.659 --> 01:29:47.340 on purpose. Okay, I did it. Yes, I did. I punched 01:29:47.340 --> 01:29:49.600 the button. You want to close this out? Yeah. 01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:52.300 Yeah. Father, thank you for this time. I pray 01:29:52.300 --> 01:29:55.020 that what we say and do here is pleasing to you. 01:29:55.039 --> 01:29:57.180 That's our heart. Yes. And Father, for all of 01:29:57.180 --> 01:29:58.960 our friends, thank you so much for those that 01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:01.640 have been. donating and giving their time, talent, 01:30:01.699 --> 01:30:04.539 and treasure, Lord, towards this. Our heart is 01:30:04.539 --> 01:30:07.460 to bring something that's fresh, something that's 01:30:07.460 --> 01:30:12.140 life -giving, like the scripture says, that we're 01:30:12.140 --> 01:30:14.500 to let our light so shine before others that 01:30:14.500 --> 01:30:17.659 they may see the good and glorify our Father 01:30:17.659 --> 01:30:21.539 in heaven. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. And we 01:30:21.539 --> 01:30:24.899 will be back next week because we get to do this. 01:30:25.420 --> 01:30:27.319 Join us then. Goodbye, everybody.