Father, thank you for our time today. What a
privilege it is. We truly get to do this and
we mean it. So Lord, I'm asking we consecrate
literally everything before you and I'm asking
that you would touch and bless our conversation
today. And Father, for our friends listening,
I pray that this would in some way ignite conversations
for them as well about their faith, about what's
going on in our culture, in our world, across
the world, not just our nation, but across the
world. I'm asking for healthy, life -giving,
worldview conversations about all the things
that are happening in our world today. We honor
you with it in all things in Jesus' name. Amen.
You got your jacket on. You're looking mighty
slick. The only jacket I have in the building
is a suit jacket. I'm cold. I'm chilled. I'm
actually warm because I came in. Of course, nothing
was working. You were flying. Yeah, you were
on the fly. It usually happens. Good morning.
I can bring that down a little more if you want.
Well, not that you got your jacket on. Yeah,
I'll bring it down. Do you have the remote? Don't
worry about it. If you don't have the remote,
no, no, don't worry about it. I'm used to sweating.
This is the podcast. Welcome to Our Living Room.
Hey brother, good to see you again in person.
It has been too long Two weeks. Yeah. Yeah, right
at it two weeks and wow the last couple of days,
of course, we were waiting in Amsterdam for Hopefully
for our granddaughter to arrive We were praying
our main prayer was God your timing, of course
It'd be great if you give us a little favor and
God's like, yeah I think I think you're okay.
So the last few days were a little stressful
just cause you know, like checking in with Christina
and she's like, nah, cause there was some talk
earlier that the baby may come early and you
know, all things change and we're like, okay,
whatever. We know we've been there, done that.
Exactly. And these first babies like, you know,
they tend to be late. So it's okay. Um, uh, but
also I was just, you okay with the sound? I'm
good. Yeah. I just felt disconnected from from
home, from our family. You're a dog, your fur
baby. Definitely, definitely the fur baby. We've
been reunited all as well. Because we were in
hotel rooms, it's just at a certain point, like,
okay, I've had it. Now, even though hotels were
great and we celebrated Tina's birthday, but
really this past weekend was such a big weekend
here at the church, at Bridge Church. And we
knew we wouldn't be here for for all the special
things that were happening. And so I was like,
I felt a little disconnected from it. And so
and I've been trying to catch up listening to
the podcasts of the of the services. But you
got to tell me what was happening here, because,
you know, you were just like, I can't wait to
do the show. There's stuff I got to tell you.
I'm like, I know what that feels like. Yeah,
I'm good. Go for it. Well, so a week ago, we
had You know, on July 4th, we had Rick Green,
Patriot Academy, 250th, huge celebration, fireworks,
I mean, everything you can imagine, dinner, all
that. So it was a full marathon weekend. We follow
that up with another full marathon weekend. Why
not? Hey, we could have put the 250th off. Anyway,
so we had, and we were so blessed to bring in
the Caleb Global. Great ministry out of Nashville,
Tennessee. The founder, we call him Papa Don.
He's known that all over the world. Don Finto,
Papa Don, he's 96 years old and he decided to
make the trip to Fredericksburg. He'd never been
here before. He grew up in Texas. He was born
right outside of La Mesa, Texas. We had a lot
to talk about when we got here. We had a lot
in common. But he had not been to Fredericksburg
in years and so decades. So he came, his daughter
came with him to kind of help him. He's 96, so
it's helpful to have somebody. But he is amazing.
I could not believe he's not. I tell him, I said,
I want to be like you when I grow up. because
I mean at 96 this man is sharp as a tack. So
he was here and then the one who's really running
the ministry now, he's the Papa, the founder.
But basically the president, his name is Todd
McDowell. Todd was with him. We had Todd about
a little over a month ago. Did he speak on a
Wednesday night? He did a Wednesday night and
he was phenomenal. And what it was, it was eating
the first Pringle off the top, off the stack.
And you know what happens then? You can't stop.
You're done. So that was it. We got a taste of
what he was bringing in terms of what it means
to appreciate and value our Christian heritage
in Judaism. Israel and Jerusalem and to honor.
You know, just down the 250th we honored our
founding fathers of our country, right? Of course,
yes. Celebrated all those amazing heroes. But
there's also heroes around the Jewish faith and
the Christian faith, which Judeo -Christian believes
it was Judaism first and then Christianity came
in with Jesus. But we went back and we honored
our founding fathers spiritually. Abraham, Isaac,
Jacob, Moses, the great founders of Judaism and
establishing a one God. One God, not 500 of them.
One God, capital G. We got to do that. We got
to honor our founding fathers. for our nation,
but we also got to honor our founding fathers
for our faith the very next weekend. And Todd
addressed that and did a wonderful job of connecting
the dots for us. But really it was just this
idea of what it means to understand. Here's another
beautiful thing. You would have really appreciated
this if you hadn't heard it yet, but he talked
a lot about Ishmael and how Ishmael was, you
know, he was Not the planned child, but yet he
still was the firstborn. And was going to receive
a great nation. Would have received everything.
And even though that got removed in the short
term, but yet God did make promises to Ishmael
that nations would come from him. Yes. And sure
enough, they have. Yeah. And so, he connected
the dots for a lot of things. We unpacked it
with our staff on Tuesday, our staff meeting,
and we buzzed for an hour. I mean, there was
so much to talk about. But the short version
is just that it gave me such an appreciation
for our spiritual founding fathers, just like
I have a great appreciation for our national
founding fathers, and honor where honor is due.
man, they just brought it, and they brought it
with such love. This was not a political rally.
This is not Zionist shills. I mean, this is…
It's none of that. Oh, I thought I missed the
meeting. It's just, here's what the Bible says,
here's why we bless Israel, because the Word
of God says to, therefore God says to, and we
just want to be in alignment. with God's heart.
This is not political. This is not, you know,
MAGA. This is not, you know, dissing on woke
left or whatever. It's just, we want to be biblical,
period. And there's no debate around it. People
can debate it all day long, but there's nothing
to debate. God said, God established. And the
least likely nation to do it with would be this
weak, small nation that ended up being enslaved
for a good part of its beginning. And to think
that they would be any better now in terms of
their very secular nation, high degree of homosexuality
and LGBT, it's all there. Well, they've had all
kinds of bad rulers and kings that were no good.
Well, they did in Bible times, too, but God redeemed
them. Here's the point. God chose to pour out
His love on someone who wouldn't appreciate it.
And we're no different. We are no different.
Gosh, so I heard the first sermon, it's on the
Godcaster, we make a podcast of it, and Intellectually
already knew a lot of these things. He drew an
analogy which I really loved, and the way he
told it was a little too long to clip, but he
was talking about how we're grafted into the
vine, into the Jews. He called it the root stock.
The root stock, yes. Because he compared it to
vineyards here in Hill Country. So I know this
story because David Maserano had told this story
one time in a dinner. This is about the blight,
the epidemic that hit French vineyards in the
19th century. And what they found out, and this
I think is 1880, I believe, that the root stock,
the wine vines from Denison, Texas, Hill Country,
they had evolved to be able to protect themselves
against this blight. And it has a really cool
name. Yeah, it was an aphid. It was a little
bug. Well, yes, aphid is the bug. And so the
condition was Phyllizera epidemic. I just love
doing pronouncing stuff I can't pronounce. So
the the millions of Texas root stocks literally
were shipped across the Atlantic and the French
winemakers grafted their traditional European
vine varieties onto these Texas roots and so
I knew this story and And he made the analogy
to how we have been grafted into the vine of
of the Jews and of Israel and so the and which
is I have friends in Israel and I'm trying to
get my train of thought going here because part
of it is we're supposed to love them so much
that they get jealous and that they will become
believers, which is a tough one because I love
all my Jewish brothers so much. I love you too,
brother, but Jesus wasn't insurrectionist. So
they're not really open to that. But then I was
also thinking, do we honor our root stock? And
I took this analogy to the root stock from the
French vineyards and I researched if they still
honor our root stock. Because I had really only
heard it once from one person. This is the second
time they're heard from Todd and I'd forgotten
it. And the answer is yes. In 1992, Munson's
home where Dr. Munson delivered this root stock
in Denison, Texas was honored as the place where
the root stock came from. In 2002, the city of
Cognac unveiled a permanent bronze statue of
Munson in their central square to permanently
honor the man who saved their cultural heritage.
And I love that. And I think it's probably time
again that France do something, you know, we're
24 years on. But so it proves the analogy to
be true. But I don't think we do a good job of
it as believers. In fact, I think we've been
hiding a lot because of cultural pressure and
because words like support and pray and bless,
they're all so convoluted that that rolls into
this giant, well, you're a Zionist. All these
words that just get spread around, which is now
so clear to me. By the way, that word was co
-opted. Zionism is not a bad thing, but it's
been co -opted and stolen. Palestinians was co
-opted. That was a word the Romans used to basically
make fun - Based out of Philistine. Yeah, to
make fun of the Jews. Another name for the Philistine.
Yes. So the whole thing has been so convoluted
throughout the ages. And that's why I'm so sad
that I wasn't there to really get a full download
of it. But when you go back to the word in Genesis,
those who bless Israel will be blessed, those
who don't, I will curse them. And Psalm 122 verse
6, I can just spout that off the top of my head.
I don't know why. Have I heard that a million
times from somebody? We pray for the peace of
Jerusalem. There's not a lot we have to do. It's
not all, but, you know, and we have to be intentional
with it, but it doesn't… bleed over into this
whole cultural nonsense that has been taking
place and I bring news from the front my brother
I bring news something has Pivoted something
has flipped come on. Yes. Okay now I'm excited
something has changed just around this whole
weekend everything is happening in the same week
and and it all started with funny enough the
preliminary hearings of Tyler Robinson, who was
being accused of killing Charlie Kirk. Nice segue,
by the way. That was brilliant. Keep going. Keep
flowing. You're on the flow. You're on the flow.
Don't spike the ball yet, man. But what happened
is all this nonsense that we've been hearing
for a year, which started with Israel killed
Charlie Kirk, and it was because he didn't want
to take money, and Yahoo, and all of this stuff.
which just culminated into ultimately our president
is completely remote controlled by Netanyahu
and he's weak and does only what they say. This
all of a sudden reaches crescendo. I've always
said throughout my show business career, you
have to be very careful of how you use or manipulate
media. So if you manipulate media for your benefit,
and I used to mean just newspapers or articles
or television or radio. Now it's social media.
It has a boomerang effect. So if you throw that
boomerang and you use it, it always, always,
always, always comes back and whacks you in the
head and knocks you down. I've seen this in my
own life time after time. I'm very careful with
interviews because it just comes back at you.
If you're using it or abusing it, So there was
a lot of this going on. And I would say the one
of the main progenitors was Candace Owens. Correct.
And she just came up with so many. Now there's
another little piece I have to bring in here.
The number one podcast category since, you know,
for the past 15 years is true crime. And it's
particularly women who listen to true crime.
It is extremely popular. It started with serial,
and that was an NPR production. And there's something
about our cultural development watching crime
shows, even your CSI stuff that you used to watch.
There's something about tying it all up in a
bow within 20, 27 minutes without the commercials.
I have resolution and we've solved it and the
bad guy goes to jail. And there's always these
twists and turns. And so we are, we're almost
conditioned to, to want to dive into conspiracies
and find out what's behind it. I myself for years,
I've just been looking at before it was popular.
And that's why I call myself now a conspiracy
therapist, because I, I, I know the dead ends
and there, most of them are dead ends. So this,
this got to a level. of exploding microphones
and Egyptian military planes. And with just a
few hours of recording of the preliminary trial,
forget what the prosecution is saying, this young
man's defense is not saying, well, what about
the Egyptian military plane? So the evidence
is so overwhelming that it just cracked everything
and the boomerang came back. And it came back
so hard. that the number one progenitor of anti
-Israel sentiment, I won't say anti -Jewish per
se, I don't want to call anyone an anti -Semite,
Nick Fuentes. You've seen him, you know who I'm
talking about. And he did a piece two days ago,
I brought a couple clips, relatively short, and
he explains exactly what happened, exactly why
it happened. And it comes down to what I think
I categorized as audience capture, where your
whole audience is saying, you've got to talk
about this. What do you mean? It was an exploding
microphone. The Jews are doing it. They did,
you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so
I brought these three clips. The first one, I
bleeped out one or two words just because we
know what they are. It's not necessary to have
those. The first clip, little hard to listen
to, but stuff we haven't heard and we're all
adults and I'm sure we can handle this. But it's
important because it kind of sets up what happened
and what changed in our culture. And as we get
through it, you'll see that the tide has changed
at this very moment with all these things happening.
So it's really good. Makes you lose PayPal and
lose access to the platforms and lose your job
grifters are not going to criticize Israel because
there's no money in it There's no easy money.
It's not an easy grift. So what were they doing?
They were praising Israel. That was the easy
grift You're looking for a black Republican to
say blag's it Yo, you're looking for a black
Republican. I'm a black Republican. Give me a
million dollars a year. That was the grift. That
was, you could go to the black leadership summit
and say, black, don't vote Democrat. Here's your
million dollars. Have a nice day. You could be
any black person, any brown person. I'm black
and we ain't got to vote for no Democrats necessarily.
Understandable. Here's your million dollars,
sir. Have a great day. That was the grift. What
changed in 2024 and 2025 is it became really
in vogue and really popular for people to talk
about Jews in Israel in a negative way, also
just to talk about conspiracies in general. Suddenly
that became the grift and it attracted people
that were looking for notoriety, people that
were looking to build a social platform. It's
interesting that he's saying this. And I appreciate
that he's saying it. I do too. Because I think
he's probably more principled than I even considered.
So now he explains the mechanism. Here's what
I mean by this. If tweeting Israel critical sentiment
gets them engagement and money, then like a mouse
or a cat or any animal in one of these experiments,
if they press a button and get a treat, if they
press a button and get a treat, they're trained
that this is what they're going to do every single
day. So if I'm an influencer on Twitter, I want
to grow my following. I want to make my ex revenue
dollars How do I get my reward? How do I get
my treat? I press the button every day every
day I press the button and what's the button?
Uh JFK said Hitler's spirit will rise from the
grave Israel Jews did everything The liberty
was intentional. Every day, press that button.
And always escalating, always going in the same
direction. Does it ever get refined? Is nuance
introduced? Counterarguments entertained? Do
we discuss the limitations, the limitations of
this theory? No. Press the button. If we're not
getting the same reward press the button harder
press a button twice press a button 12 times
Slam the button so he's he's calling it out.
I call this audience capture He's calling out
exactly what happened and it's not all monetary.
It's also you know, it's ego like people are
retweeting me I'm getting attention. I'm ratio.
There's all these terms online. It's crazy last
clip here. We'll look at Jackson Hinkle Jackson
Hinkle, I think gained like three million Twitter
followers in nine months. What explains the explosion
in engagement for people criticizing Israel?
No one's gonna like to hear this. You're gonna
call me a grifter, you're gonna call me a shill,
you're gonna say controlled opposition, switch
sides, honest to God truth, this is the truth.
Probably it was being driven from foreign countries
in the left. That's just true. Why oh why all
of a sudden? Did it become supercharged if you
criticize Israel on Twitter boom hundred thousand
likes you could literally tweet Israel hundred
thousand likes Did everyone in America all of
a sudden start hating Israel? Well, some people
did But I think it was driven in part or maybe
a lot by the Muslim world, which is very engaged
online Because they were the ones at war with
Israel because Palestine is their regional cause
Palestine is their religious ethnic struggle
So I think a lot like Jackson Hinkle how many
of his three million followers that he gained
in those nine months How many of them came from
the United States of America? People knew what
he was up to before all of a sudden you have
this regional conflict between Israel and the
Arab League effectively Or you could say the
axis of resistance would be more precise Now
all of a sudden anyone going after israel supercharged
and we all know is being driven by these muslims
We all know is being we all see it on twitter.
That's who's promoting it. That's who's doing
it So I have respect for him for doing this uh
because He he's exactly what he said. They're
calling him out for that But it it's true. I
mean this this I feel is true, but it has changed
things dramatically online. And this pivot is
taking place in rapid tempo. And I think it's
fantastic to watch this happen. This is really
cool to see this happen. And it's just like,
it was a spiritual war to begin with, and it
just took the right things to line up for this
to turn around, and it is turning around really
quickly. Wow. I mean, it's to this point now
where There was this whole, we've got to stop
giving money to Israel, $3 .8 billion a year,
which is military aid. Actually, I did the calculation
that is literally, because people say, why are
you giving money to Israel? America first. Two
weeks of SNAP benefits equals $3 .8 billion.
Nine days of money that goes to things that don't
deserve it in America, squandered, fraud, nine
days. is $3 .8 billion. So if you look at all
the things that we put, where we put our money
in context, we are definitely very much an America
first spending country. We got a lot of problems.
And so now Congress, there's several elements
within Congress who want to really cut Israel
out from everything, from the money, from military
knowledge sharing, which is already being uh,
being sold online as they're merging the IDF
with our military. Okay. No, it's just not, that's
not true. Um, now you see Democrats voting against
Democrats to stop this nonsense. I could, I mean,
it's all small in the details right now. You're
not reading a lot about it. The tidal wave is
big. A big change is coming. Big change. big,
beautiful tidal wave towards our president. And
to get a biblical perspective on this, Galatians
6 -7 says, do not be deceived. God is not mocked.
For whatever one sows, that will he also reap.
And this is the thing about online life. People
don't realize that what they say, not only does
it matter, it's forever. We know that in physics,
your sound wave produced never stops. I mean,
there's words still dribbling around this room
from days ago. But in the digital world, once
it's out there, I mean, you see people not getting
jobs or getting fired from jobs because of what
they felt so bold behind the keyboard. And they
jumped on the bandwagon, started beating whatever
it was they're beating, whatever drum. But our
words matter. We will be held accountable for
the words we say. And I love or I appreciate,
it's probably a better word, I appreciate when
we see it happen quickly. It doesn't always happen
that way. No, it can take decades. Exactly. But
to see this boomerang come around this quickly
is telling, I'm telling you, I'm going to come
from a biblical perspective every time and the
Bible is clear and God is clear. that if we bless
Israel, we will be blessed, but if we curse Israel,
we will be cursed. And the word curse, there's
several ways to break it down, but the one that
makes the most sense to me in terms of today's
relevance, blessing means an empowerment to succeed.
Cursing is an empowerment to fail. You set yourself
up for failure. Yeah, when you when you go after
them and we're watching that boomerang happen
very quickly and and we don't even have to do
anything No, you don't have to go out there and
say don't to post anything. No, it's all I feel
no need to do that. It's all good It's not necessary.
It's the boomerang has come back all by itself.
Just as it always does It's almost like it's
almost like physics. It's a law of nature with
with sound waves with energy waves. They just
come back and it's turning everything around.
It doesn't mean that there aren't problems in
Israel. It doesn't mean there aren't problems
here. There's problems everywhere. But that's
never been the point. It's so much simpler. That's
what gets me. It's like, please, people. It's
just praying. That's it. Blessing and praying.
You don't have to do anything else. If you can,
you don't have to do anything else. The prophet
Hosea was a righteous man, and God gave him an
assignment, and it was harsh. He said, I want
you to go marry this woman over here. She's a
prostitute. Hosea was representative of God and
his love. The prostitute was representative of
the heart of Israel, the behavior of Israel,
the character of Israel. And he told him to marry
her. He marries her. They have children. She
steps out on him. That's just an easy way of
saying it. She begins to have other affairs.
What does God tell him to do? take her back,
forgive her, over and over and over again. And
he continued to reach out to her with unrequited
love. I mean, she would not love him back and
she would continue to run away and sleep with
others. And of course, the punchline in Hosea
is Israel has played the harlot, love her anyway.
This is God's heart. He chose that nation not
because they're successful, not because they
were big, and not because they honored him. He
chose them to show this is how much he loves
people. It's a picture of his unconditional love,
agape, we read it out of the Greek, agape, this
love that does not require a condition. The covenant
that he cut with Abraham, it's called the Abrahamic
covenant, Not the Abraham Accords. This is back
in Genesis 15 and 17. It predates the Abraham
Accords by a bit. He cut that, but he actually
put Abraham to sleep when he cut the covenant.
Usually when you cut a covenant, you state terms
to one another, you agree on the terms, and then
each of you walk through the animal that's been
slain, and it's called the blood trail, and you
go through, and that's you symbolically saying,
If I do not uphold the terms of this covenant,
maybe it be done unto me as it is to this animal.
And when God made the covenant with Abraham,
he put him to sleep. He had nothing to say or
do about it. And he said, it will be a covenant
forever. And in the Hebrew, that literally means
forever. It's an everlasting covenant. In other
words, some of the other covenants, the Mosaic
covenant, the Aaronic covenant, the Davidic covenant,
a lot of those were time periods. And they were
dependent on both parties. But this was not.
This was the one covenant that God made where
Abraham, the person, the other party had no say
in it. It also means there's no dependency on
the other party. If the other party chooses not
to uphold the terms of the covenant, God still
will. This is some really good stuff you're saying
here, because I'm just taking it all in. It's
exactly how Jesus always, you know, Jesus didn't
want to go hang out with winners and people who
were doing great. He wanted to go with the broken
people, with the losers. For people outside the
faith, it must be so hard to understand this
unconditional love for fellow man, unconditional
love just like God has for Israel. But I think
even for believers, it's difficult. It is. Logically,
you think, to what end? How long do I have to
do this? Will they ever listen? Maybe not? I
mean, how do we approach that as believers? It
means we have to be radically biblical. We have
to make a decision upfront. Am I going to follow
God's Word, God's promises, God's mandates, God's
commands? Or am I going to try to fashion my
own kind of Christianity, my own designer? like
the back cover of Aqualung. In the beginning,
man made God in his image. That's what it starts
at. I remember reading that. I wasn't even a
Christian. I went, that sounds blasphemous. I
wasn't even a believer. I was like, I don't know
if I'd go that far, but that statement of people
trying to make Christianity work for them. Where
Christianity becomes the addendum it comes to
the add -on not the primary driver of your life
your faith life And so we have to make a decision
who's gonna be on the throne of my life me or
am I gonna put God there and no matter What it
looks like to the culture around me in the time
period in which I live I've already made my choice.
I don't change my mind in the middle of the game
To fit the culture and that's what we see a lot
of because I think there are a lot of believers
who haven't bought in. They haven't stepped over
the line. They made an emotional decision. They
heard a sermon, heard a good song, and it got
their emotions moving. And in the moment, they
meant it as far as their emotions, but it wasn't
a rational decision. They made that, I will follow
Jesus. I will obey God's word no matter what
it costs me, no matter what it takes. Now let's
talk about balance. as a believer. So, when we
have these weekends and we have these conversations,
these discussions, it can feel very much like,
that's what I'm supposed to do as a Christian.
I am supposed to be blessing Israel, praying
for the peace of Jerusalem. But it's not, you
know what I mean? It's like, it becomes the focus.
Like, is that what I'm supposed to do? Is that
what it's all about? Pastor Jimmy, help. It's
not what it's all about. It's one spoke in the
wheel. Yeah. You look at a motorcycle tire, it's
got a lot of spokes in it. It's one spoke of
many. And so I don't go now, sew my entire life
into this. It's just a part of who I am as a
follower of Jesus. We don't preach about Israel,
but we pray for them every week. Is it an analog
to how we are supposed to be towards our fellow
man? Oh, absolutely. Again, the picture of Hosea.
marrying a prostitute and loving her no matter
what. It wasn't dependent on her, it was dependent
on Hosea's love. Same way with God, same way
with us. How many times do you forgive your brother
who offends you, the scripture says? Seven times
seven? No, seven times 77. I mean, he's like,
he's given an infinite number because it's going
to happen. But we already in culture don't do
that. I know. That's wrong. We don't do that.
We don't forgive. There are people still so mad
with their actual brothers and sisters and family
because of what happened with separations during
COVID, which I think is all a part of this, by
the way. It all flows into this. No doubt. There's
a strategy there. There was some demonic stuff
going down. Man, there's a lot of healing to
do. A lot of healing. When we pray the Lord's
Prayer, which we do that every week as well.
I'm very intentional with these things. The reason
we do the Lord's Prayer is because in the Lord's
Prayer, it says, forgive us our debts as we forgive
our debtors. But really, I actually slipped up
in one of the services, I think the first one,
and I said, forgive us our trespasses as we forgive
those, because that's how I learned it as a kid,
so it comes up. But when I'm praying that prayer
for myself, I say, Father, forgive me my offenses
as I forgive those who offend me. Now, who's
it dependent on? me, as I forgive them. Then
you will be forgiven. Exactly. It's conditional.
We call it a covenant statement. And so it's
covenantal in that I'm saying, only as I forgive
will I be forgiven, but that's biblical too.
So that's part of the prayer. So we do that.
So we pray for the peace of Jerusalem, but I'm
not going to go out and buy, you know, star of
David necklace to hang around my neck just to
show everybody. That'd be pretty awesome if you
had your shirt open and one of those little hairy
chest. That would be pretty cool. Look like an
Italian pastor. Hair, some bling, some Christian
bling, the cross. That's the thing is people
can get. swept up, just like anything. They get
swept up into America, patriotism. They get swept
up into now. I hated Israel. I went to a seminar
now. I love Israel. And then they go nuts. We're
always over -correcting the car. My dad used
to teach me driving because everything was rear
-wheel drive growing up. He'd teach me, he'd
say, all right, I'm going to throw the car into
a power slide. What do you do? Steer into it.
You don't over -correct. That's how you roll
a car, and that's how you roll a life, too. Well,
I mean, yes, there's so much to think about and
to learn from this. And I think that's kind of
my takeaway is, you know, look at the analogies,
look at what you're being shown, try, continuously
try, and I fail, to apply this to my own life.
Actually, I find online is a really great place
to do it. When someone just says something really
horrible, I don't respond. I just bless them
right at that moment. It's difficult because
if you fail at it, time and time and time again.
There's a lot stacked against us in this world.
There is a lot stacked against us. One of the
things that you've helped me do, Adam, is not
put the weight of public opinion in the online
world. I mean, the representative population
of the world that's sitting there pecking out
negative comments towards you and dissing on
you is so infinitesimal to the world. There's
a good world with good people out there. And
it's a much smaller population that's sitting
online waiting to jump on your next statement.
I'm over that. And much of this is dead internet?
bots, bots programmed to talk back and to manipulate
opinion. And that comes from governments, it
comes from corporations, comes from stock traders.
Somebody that has an agenda. You'd be amazed
how much that's in there. I want to live with
no agenda. Let me just say that. It's a great
life. It's the international lifestyle. It's
peaceful when you succeed at it. When you can
step back and pause. I mean, I get crap all the
time online and I just go, whatever. Oh, you
just identified yourself. All right, I bless
that. I pray for you by name now. Thanks for
giving me your name or your handle, whatever.
We got so many great emails and feedback coming
in. Now, we got a note from Holly. She's in France
right now. Yeah, yeah, she's traveling, riding
her bicycle all over the country. That's our
Holly who sings here. Yes. And she's like, I
already miss the church family. I love it. We
miss her. We do. And as she said, I've only been
gone for four days, already missing my church
family. This episode, that was 40, I guess, was
exactly what I needed. And I loved hearing this
so much because this podcast to me is That's
the impact, that's success. I've had so many
projects in my life where it had to be numbers.
What's the number? What's the download? What's
the size? What's the rating? What's the this?
What's the that? And even my devotional this
morning, my goodness, I should have brought that
with me. It was talking about this very thing,
about how God is not impressed by big numbers,
and He will not bless based upon the numbers.
It's just not important. Man, once you get yourself
through that, life changes so much. It's like,
oh, I look at things quite differently now. I
really do. It's so good. So good. Here's one
that I think I mentioned to you the other day.
We got a note from Aaron Newberry, and he's in
Colorado. And he had heard us talking about Victor
Marx. And he said, Marx is running for governor
of Colorado. I think he actually won the primary.
He's for the Republican Party. I'm a Christian,
he says. I just have this leery feeling about
him. I'm not sure what it is. I've been praying
about it. Maybe it's just me and my paranoia,
and he would love to know our thoughts about
Victor Marx. So I'm going to toss that right
into your court there, brother. And then you'll
land on that. Well, I will. Because he had some
great ministry in your direction as well. Yes.
So yeah, Victor Marx is a solid, solid, strong
conservative believer, follower of Jesus, committed
to his family to the core, and his wife is a
rock star. Yes. He's one of those that when he
preaches, he looks over at her and bounces things
off of her mid -message. He did that. So we hosted
Victor Marks in our church. And I felt like I
met a brother from another mother as we got to
know each other. And we had a lot of conversations.
We're close to the same age. So we had a lot
of conversations about physical fitness because
we're both trying to steward our bodies and go
for the long game. But what I appreciated was
his heart. His heart to protect the broken because
his testimony, whoever wonders about Victor Marx
should go back and look for his testimony online.
It's going to be on YouTube. There's videos.
There's a little documentary about it. and realize
what this man came from, kind of like a JD Vance
who was just very abused, very neglected as a
child. Extremely abused, really. Yeah, raised
in poverty and yet overcame that to become a
world changer. Somebody's going to make a difference
in the world and that's Victor Marx. That's his
heart. His heart really is for protecting the
innocent. Yes. Much of his later in life ministry
has been directed towards rescuing children from
trafficking, sex trafficking, slave trafficking,
and they do that in some of the most dark and
dangerous parts of the world. And so when he
came here, and I'll just add my two cents here,
and I've been trying to think about this question
because I can see how he looks, how he may portray
himself, how an Instagram post looks, words that
he might use. He's certainly not refined necessarily
in his speech. I can see how that can come across
as, what was the term that he used here? That
was an interesting term, leery feeling. That's
a lot of that is just programming that's been
hammered into us from media and entertainment.
But if you look at his heart, and what happened
to me with Victor is I'd never met him. He didn't
know who I was. He had no idea of my background.
He said, I need to speak with you. Did we talk
about this on the show at some point? No, no,
not this one. And he brought me down to Patriot
Academy where he was staying. And he said, I
need to talk to you. I need to, what is the term
that I'm looking for? Is it like a deliverance?
Yeah, yeah, it's freedom ministry, but it's something
prayer. Retool. Yes, he says, I do this with
special forces. I've done this with CEOs. I think
he said a president or two. I'm going to do this
to you because I don't know, but you need this.
And he just went to town praying over me and
helped me identify the actual evil that surrounds
me, that is somehow connected, and this can be
from childhood and years, but it's an actual
kind of a physical thing that you can't see.
And it was so powerful that at a certain point,
as he's telling these entities to leave me...
I don't want anyone to think that this is like
crazy voodoo -woo -woo stuff. Your head didn't
spin around. You didn't spit pea soup or anything,
right? But the lights and the entire power in
the Patriot Academy went out, which doesn't happen
at the Patriot Academy. Yeah, right when we were
praying. Right when he's in the middle of this
prayer. And to this day, that retooling that
he's done, I repeat it every single day on my
prayer walk because— Excellent. It protects me.
Like you may just say, not today, Satan. You
have no power here. You have no authority over
my family. You're weak. This has already been
fought. And so I add to that, get out of my light,
you Kujo. That's the name I gave it. And all
you can do is kneel down at the throne of our
Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, whose blood was
shed on the cross for us. We're protected. We're
covered. And this goes for my family, for my
wife, for my dog, for my friends, for our daughters,
and for my sister. and their families. And I
got to tell you, it starts my day off good. And
I feel powerful. So that's the Victor Marx that
you and I know. And so we've been following his
campaign. Certainly when you got a guy like this,
a lot of people come out of the woodwork and
try to discredit him and knock him down. That's
so far that has not worked in Colorado. Definitely
the state has changed throughout the year. So
he's got quite a run ahead of him, but yeah,
I endorse him. I would just say that. I really
endorse what he stands for. And he's another
man who's not a politician. That's part of the
value. We've got people that are grassroots beginning
to say, all right, Donald Trump wasn't a politician
and he's holding the highest office in the land.
So maybe I can make a difference. Funny how that's
kind of where our... Founding fathers came from
interesting and they were like 20 year old farmers
farmers. Yeah, you know printer Iron smith, you
know, you know exactly exactly normal regular
people I just want to congratulate codename Pete
Remember talked about Pete who was suffering
for alcoholism. Yes, and I went back and forth
with him and I wanted to share this because I'm
so Proud of his bravery because he knew he had
to go through a detox, and he was trying to white
-knuckle this stuff. I said, brother, I recommend
AA because they have a faith -based program.
I've seen it work. It's literally saved dear
friends of mine. And he was very afraid to tell
his wife about it. And I said, man, You got it.
You got to talk to your wife. This is your partner
if she's a proverb 31 wife She will be there
for you and she will see it through with you
and he did and and he's he's going into the program
is doing the detox I said that probably takes
more courage than the actual detox part, brother.
So I was just so proud that he did that. And
I look forward to hearing from him again as he
goes through this journey. Wow. Can I share a
good news moment from Rhett Rogers? Rhett Rogers,
he's one of the Carnivore brothers. I'm connected
to the Carnivore community. In fact, I'm doing
a couple of... I want to hear about that. Talk
about Rhett first. I want to hear about that.
Rhett's fantastic. He's just become a dear brother
to the Lord. The thing that was interesting is
when I didn't actually step into this space,
I got pulled into it. Turns out there's a ton
of people that are in that world, the health
and fitness world, that are Christians. They're
just trying to steward their life, steward their
body, you know, the physical side. So I met Rhett
at several different meetups. MEAT meetups. Yeah,
exactly. And so he wrote, he said, hello, Pastor
Jimmy, this is Rhett Rogers. We met in Austin
and Tennessee. Just had to message you today.
I hope you don't mind. I was having a terrible
day. One of those no good, very bad, terrible,
I'm going to go eat worms kind of days. Eat worms.
At least he's staying carnivore. I got in my
car after work and I was angry. I couldn't get
let go. So before I drove off, I said a quick
prayer. Lord, I don't know why I'm so angry.
I love you. Please take this from me. I started
to drive and I remembered I missed your podcast
from yesterday. This was last week. I had 51
minutes on my commute and your episode was 51
minutes. Exactly. I just felt a warm hug from
this experience. Wanted to share with you. Absolutely
love what you do and want you to know. You're
encouraging and blessing people all the way in
Washington state. I don't miss an episode though
sometimes I'm late. In this case, the timing
was perfect. God bless you, my friend. We get
to do this and I thank you and Adam again for
all you do. Sorry for the book. That's what it's
about though is we want to help people. That
is the bottom line. We're not selling something.
This isn't MLM. We're not multi -level marketing
anything. It's just we want to get good news
into people's lives. In the world that's, the
internet world that's got a lot of bad news.
Yeah. I think we're a balance. I like to think
of us as a balance to what else is out there.
Yeah. Like a counterbalance. A counterbalance.
I wrote something down. I don't know why I'm
just going to bring it up here today. As I heard
someone say, busy is a burden under Satan's yoke.
The tyranny of the urgent as a counterfeit. Surrender
brings you into the Lord's boot camp of belief.
And I just wrote these things down. And for me,
it's like every day I have to remind myself,
like when you get to the angry, I want to eat
worms part, I'm not in control. It's the best
thing I've learned in the past, you know, almost
four years. I'm not in control. And Lord, just
help me. Man, Tina and I have gotten really good
at this now. Like something happens and stop,
pray. We're not in control. Lord, it's your control.
That's usually after the initial spin -up. Because
we all react to things. We're getting real good
at that. Right. Like the time is shorter and
shorter, right? Yes, compresses. And your recovery
time is quicker. You can see it right away in
our faces. Love that. Oh, wow. You're right.
This is the enemy. Or let's look at this from
this angle. Wow, it's so good. It's so good.
It doesn't mean that crap doesn't happen because
it does. But yeah, I think the recovery, I mean,
that's so good when it's like. 15 seconds instead
of 15 hours. Yeah, a day and a half. I was thinking
a day and a half. Easily. That was our joke when
Annette and I were young and married. We were
like, okay, if she was that mad at me, we'd have
the conversation, but it's still going to be
a day and a half of coldness, you know? Cold
atmosphere. And you just feel bad. It's like
there's a pit in your stomach. Awkward conversations,
you're tiptoeing. Pretending to be really nice
to each other like, I know what's going on. But
that's the beauty of building your life on a
solid foundation of faith. And I brought this
in here on purpose because this is my reminder.
So what it is I've got sitting on the table in
front of Adam and I is the National Monument
to the Forefathers. I don't have the actual one.
It's 81 feet high. This one's a foot maybe. It's
over there in Massachusetts. We went to see it.
But I've got a replica of it. And what I love
about this, I keep it on my desk. I put it on
my desk now. I used to have it over on a table.
I want it in front of me all day long to remind
me of this initial piece and that's faith. The
top of that monument is a female and she's holding
her finger up in the air and she's called faith
and she's holding a Geneva Bible, one of the
original Bibles that was brought over on the
Mayflower actually. And then you've got the four
foundations that support faith. One is liberty.
the other one is morality, the other one is law,
and the other one is education. And all of these
work together to support and create a foundation
that you can build a life on, but that we also
built our nation on. A great country, that's
right. And so to go forward, sometimes you need
to look back. You need to remember your foundations.
Remember your founding fathers and mothers. You
know, both now, for me, not only nationally,
but also spiritually. You touched down on the
numbers. You got the whole runway to go. Perfect
three -point landing, brother. All right, everybody.
We'll be back next week, and we look forward
to it because we get to do this. Have a great
week.