WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.279 Father, we honor you this morning that we get 00:00:02.279 --> 00:00:04.780 to do this. It's a privilege to do what we do. 00:00:04.879 --> 00:00:08.400 And we pray for our listeners, our friends, Lord, 00:00:08.539 --> 00:00:10.880 that this community that you're building around 00:00:10.880 --> 00:00:13.800 this mentality of we get to do this, we get to 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:16.800 do these things. And so Father, I want to encourage 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:19.440 them today and I pray that you continue to open 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:22.339 their hearts to your goodness, to your mercy 00:00:22.339 --> 00:00:26.500 and your grace. And Father, we We just lay everything 00:00:26.500 --> 00:00:29.300 we do we consecrate these next few moments to 00:00:29.300 --> 00:00:33.320 you in Jesus name. Amen. Amen It's Wednesday, 00:00:33.380 --> 00:00:37.600 June 17th 2026 we get to do this. This is episode 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:57.340 number 37 We get to do this. Hello, honey. I 00:00:57.340 --> 00:01:00.460 knew you were going to go there. I was going 00:01:00.460 --> 00:01:02.600 to go there if you did. It's the elephant in 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:05.599 the room right now. Literally, it's a big fat 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:08.739 elephant right now. So we're chatting just before 00:01:08.739 --> 00:01:12.219 we hit record. And I'm apologizing for not being 00:01:12.219 --> 00:01:14.260 able to make a lunch. And my brother over here 00:01:14.260 --> 00:01:16.920 just throws out a, honey, it's OK. I'm like, 00:01:17.260 --> 00:01:19.900 all right, darling, can I give some back story? 00:01:20.099 --> 00:01:24.819 Just breathe for brief. So, so once a year we 00:01:24.819 --> 00:01:27.200 take off, we take all of our vacation in one 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:29.359 shot. So that's one month. And so we take off 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:32.239 usually July, but we took off June. So Annette 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:36.760 and I have been together 24 seven for several 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:39.040 weeks. And then, you know, ends at the end of 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:42.379 June, going to end with a big trip starting Saturday 00:01:42.379 --> 00:01:44.980 out to Florida and just get some beach time. 00:01:45.859 --> 00:01:50.299 And, uh, having been with her 24 seven, she's 00:01:50.299 --> 00:01:52.939 the only adult I've been talking to for a while. 00:01:53.620 --> 00:01:56.599 My response when you made a comment was it's 00:01:56.599 --> 00:02:00.299 okay, honey. And as soon as it came out of my 00:02:00.299 --> 00:02:04.359 mouth, it was too late. You couldn't block it. 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:06.099 If I could have, I would have caught it before 00:02:06.099 --> 00:02:08.520 it got to the end of my mic stand here. I love 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:11.020 that, man. I'm on that level. I love that. Well, 00:02:11.139 --> 00:02:13.240 yeah, take it as a compliment. I do. I don't 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:18.699 call any men honey, frankly. They do in the South. 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:22.080 Tina's been traveling. Yeah, big trip. Yeah, 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:24.879 she's on a trip now, but she was in Vegas with 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:28.020 her sister to see... The other big trip. Yes, 00:02:28.060 --> 00:02:30.419 Gwen Stefani, which is like the sisters. I mean, 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:32.300 how often do you get, when you're in your 60s, 00:02:32.340 --> 00:02:35.219 how often do you get to go to Vegas to a concert 00:02:35.219 --> 00:02:36.680 with your sister? That'd be like me and my brother 00:02:36.680 --> 00:02:38.479 going to see Fog Hat or something. Well, exactly. 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:40.719 That's pretty much the same thing. I'll meet 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:44.500 you in Vegas for Fog Hat. Great analogy. And 00:02:44.500 --> 00:02:46.740 so I also, I've just been home with Phoebe, you 00:02:46.740 --> 00:02:49.819 know, so I talked to Phoebe a little bit. Bubba, 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:53.300 Phoebster, you know, that's it. And so honestly, 00:02:53.620 --> 00:02:56.699 I hadn't like... showered or shaved for 48 hours 00:02:56.699 --> 00:03:00.460 and I'm walking Phoebe and our neighbor Cameron 00:03:00.460 --> 00:03:03.000 from Calivans, I learned how to pronounce it, 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:05.939 they have a house right near us. She's like, 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.560 Adam, come on in, come on in. Cause they're rarely 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:10.580 ever there. They live in California back and 00:03:10.580 --> 00:03:13.110 forth. Come on in. I'm like, I got Phoebe with 00:03:13.110 --> 00:03:15.629 me. Yeah, bring her in. She's shedding. Come 00:03:15.629 --> 00:03:17.889 on in. You're doing everything you can. Anything 00:03:17.889 --> 00:03:21.689 I can do. And I realized my hair was all crazy. 00:03:22.250 --> 00:03:24.569 But it was such a sweet time. Oh, that's cool. 00:03:24.590 --> 00:03:27.629 They were so, so nice. And those are very busy 00:03:27.629 --> 00:03:31.289 people. And Phoebe was adorable. She just like 00:03:31.289 --> 00:03:34.009 rubbing up against everybody. Look at me. Phoebe's 00:03:34.009 --> 00:03:37.889 turned into a teddy bear. Yeah. I mean, she's 00:03:37.889 --> 00:03:40.069 doing pretty well. She's come a long way. Since 00:03:40.069 --> 00:03:46.990 when she... Bidinette, yes. Oh man, it was nice 00:03:46.990 --> 00:03:50.789 to see. We're here at Bridge Church. It's a Wednesday, 00:03:51.610 --> 00:03:53.930 so it's always fun to see who's around, who's 00:03:53.930 --> 00:03:55.310 hanging out in the parking lot. You know how 00:03:55.310 --> 00:03:56.990 we used to hang out in the parking lot as kids? 00:03:57.580 --> 00:03:59.819 Some guys still do that here. Tommy Hayes out 00:03:59.819 --> 00:04:01.580 there hanging out in the parking lot. No, it 00:04:01.580 --> 00:04:05.379 was Tommy Watson. I'm sorry. Yes, Tommy Watson. 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:10.159 Waving at everybody. We're all trying to rev 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:12.479 our engines on the empty lot. I mean, we flew 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:17.160 through there too. Because I'm not working, I'm 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:20.439 trying to sort of be incognito. So I'm like hauling 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:22.660 through the parking lot to get to the back. I'm 00:04:22.660 --> 00:04:27.120 the flash. I'm not here. I mean, I do miss it. 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:29.439 I miss our people, but I try to really protect 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:32.220 that vacation time. It was nice to see Pastor 00:04:32.220 --> 00:04:35.500 Brian. He has a great idea for his message that 00:04:35.500 --> 00:04:38.500 he's preaching on Sunday. I'm very excited to 00:04:38.500 --> 00:04:43.240 see it. Me too. So good news. Good news. Just 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:45.540 positive. And it came off... I'm all about it. 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:47.879 It came off of social media. And I just want 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:52.040 to... Exactly. I just want to stop and I just 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:54.879 want to acknowledge that this is a wonderful 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:58.959 trend. It's something that came out of left field 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:01.240 and I'm just, I brought a couple of clips just 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:06.300 because it's so cool. So we have a lot of people 00:05:06.300 --> 00:05:09.139 coming into the United States, Merck right now 00:05:09.139 --> 00:05:13.000 for World Cup Soccer. Now I watch World Cup Soccer 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:15.199 because I grew up - Is it FIFA or FIFA? FIFA, 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:18.680 Federation International Football Association. 00:05:18.980 --> 00:05:20.920 It should be FISA, but that's something else. 00:05:22.910 --> 00:05:24.970 All these fans are coming in, you know, it's 00:05:24.970 --> 00:05:27.629 multiple cities, it's in Florida, it's in Texas, 00:05:27.689 --> 00:05:31.589 it's going to be, actually USA played in Los 00:05:31.589 --> 00:05:35.589 Angeles, 70 ,000 people, and they beat Paraguay. 00:05:35.829 --> 00:05:38.410 Not a huge feat, but not bad, but four to one 00:05:38.410 --> 00:05:41.769 was stellar. They've got the commercials figured 00:05:41.769 --> 00:05:45.569 out, you know, football, soccer was never appropriate 00:05:45.569 --> 00:05:47.209 for American television because you couldn't 00:05:47.209 --> 00:05:49.970 jam in commercials like basketball and football, 00:05:50.509 --> 00:05:53.629 or our football. So now they have the field is 00:05:53.629 --> 00:05:56.790 filled with digital, digital screens that wrap 00:05:56.790 --> 00:05:58.870 around. Yeah. And they're managing that really 00:05:58.870 --> 00:06:00.750 well. It's like, that's working for me. Cool. 00:06:00.870 --> 00:06:02.910 And they've, they've added something to this 00:06:02.910 --> 00:06:05.649 two times 45 minutes. So there's a halftime. 00:06:05.810 --> 00:06:08.529 They've added something, which I call a hydration 00:06:08.529 --> 00:06:12.509 break, which is It's totally laughable because 00:06:12.509 --> 00:06:15.470 these guys don't need a hydration break. It's 00:06:15.470 --> 00:06:19.389 not 120 degrees. That's weird. And these guys 00:06:19.389 --> 00:06:21.110 are world -class athletes. But that's for the 00:06:21.110 --> 00:06:23.410 commercials. Oh, gotcha. So they jam the commercials 00:06:23.410 --> 00:06:26.410 in there. But I'm happy because a lot of people 00:06:26.410 --> 00:06:28.750 don't get it, are not interested. But without 00:06:28.750 --> 00:06:31.449 a doubt, it's a huge sport. So people from all 00:06:31.449 --> 00:06:33.610 over the world, the Dutch. Oh, man. If you see 00:06:33.610 --> 00:06:37.230 Orange anywhere in your town, the Dutch are there. 00:06:37.389 --> 00:06:42.240 They are super excited. assault of the earth 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:45.120 people who really will travel to see their their 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:50.279 team play and They are posting on every social 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:54.660 network How much they love America how awesome 00:06:54.660 --> 00:06:58.040 America is all these fantastic things that we 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:00.870 have beautiful and you know What do you see on 00:07:00.870 --> 00:07:03.810 social media? Normally sucks. It sucks. It's 00:07:03.810 --> 00:07:06.949 no good. You know, everything's crap, you know, 00:07:07.050 --> 00:07:09.470 right? I'm gonna leave the country and I always 00:07:09.470 --> 00:07:11.990 say good luck with that. I've lived in a couple 00:07:11.990 --> 00:07:14.069 countries. We'll see in a few years. Now a lot 00:07:14.069 --> 00:07:19.089 of it is for obvious reasons surrounds food because 00:07:19.089 --> 00:07:23.069 we have more fast food restaurants than any other 00:07:23.069 --> 00:07:26.029 and franchises and versions in any other country 00:07:26.029 --> 00:07:30.259 in the world. But the pure joy of people. So 00:07:30.259 --> 00:07:32.759 let's just listen to a couple of snippets here. 00:07:33.259 --> 00:07:34.959 So excited about arriving at Bucky's. I want 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:39.000 to put these in my suitcase. So you like shopping 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:43.300 in America a lot better, honey. We've already 00:07:43.300 --> 00:07:48.810 got three items. This is fun. So millions of 00:07:48.810 --> 00:07:51.250 World Cup fans are in America to cheer on their 00:07:51.250 --> 00:07:53.850 teams. And some are going viral as they enjoy 00:07:53.850 --> 00:07:56.709 all the unique experiences the US has to offer. 00:07:57.069 --> 00:07:59.709 One of those fans is with us now. Sammy Bell 00:07:59.709 --> 00:08:02.689 is from England and has been sharing her time 00:08:02.689 --> 00:08:05.490 in the States on social media. Sammy, you are 00:08:05.490 --> 00:08:07.790 joining us from inside an American staple, a 00:08:07.790 --> 00:08:10.850 wing stop. And we want to get you to try the 00:08:10.850 --> 00:08:12.970 wing stop for the first time at the end of this 00:08:12.970 --> 00:08:15.550 in a couple of minutes. But first, what has surprised 00:08:15.550 --> 00:08:19.829 you about America. Just how friendly everyone 00:08:19.829 --> 00:08:22.269 is, how welcoming everyone is to the World Cup. 00:08:22.529 --> 00:08:25.149 We arrived last week for two games in Florida, 00:08:25.649 --> 00:08:27.689 in Tampa and Orlando, and everyone's just been 00:08:27.689 --> 00:08:31.329 so nice. Now, this has to be remembered. We are 00:08:31.329 --> 00:08:34.909 a nice people. True. The Europeans are always 00:08:34.909 --> 00:08:37.389 surprised when they're in a shop and someone 00:08:37.389 --> 00:08:40.129 says, have a nice day. That's always a big joke 00:08:40.129 --> 00:08:43.210 in Europe. They say, have a nice day. Do they 00:08:43.210 --> 00:08:45.149 even mean it? Well, that's not the point, is 00:08:45.149 --> 00:08:47.309 it? Right. That's not the point. Because, of 00:08:47.309 --> 00:08:49.950 course, to some degree we mean it. Here's another 00:08:49.950 --> 00:08:53.330 one. There's a French guy here. I just love this 00:08:53.330 --> 00:09:06.549 guy. And now I'm a real country girl and apparently 00:09:06.549 --> 00:09:11.809 I know now how to ride horses and to grow potatoes. 00:09:12.549 --> 00:09:14.090 People want to talk to me. People want to make 00:09:14.090 --> 00:09:15.750 noises at me. I don't know what's that about. 00:09:16.049 --> 00:09:19.769 Whee! She went whee! I was like, okay, do whee 00:09:19.769 --> 00:09:23.450 to you. Everyone is literally has a heart full 00:09:23.450 --> 00:09:26.029 of gold it seems like. That was the nicest thing. 00:09:26.129 --> 00:09:29.470 And pockets full of gold. Yeah, and pockets full 00:09:29.470 --> 00:09:34.330 of coins. I just had Texas barbecue for the first 00:09:34.330 --> 00:09:38.789 time in my life, better than any moment of my 00:09:38.789 --> 00:09:41.649 life. And I am married and have two kids. Oh, 00:09:41.769 --> 00:09:44.269 but in France you have the crepe, the petit pain 00:09:44.269 --> 00:09:47.509 au chocolat, the croissant. I give my life croissant 00:09:47.509 --> 00:09:52.169 for a Texas brisket. Don't even get me started 00:09:52.169 --> 00:09:56.090 on Costco. Costco is bigger than my village, 00:09:56.590 --> 00:09:59.350 where I live. Whatever you want at Costco, it's 00:09:59.350 --> 00:10:02.370 there. You just show up and you could buy your 00:10:02.370 --> 00:10:06.009 whole life there. We need to start a revolution 00:10:06.009 --> 00:10:09.730 just to get Costco in France. I will be the first 00:10:09.730 --> 00:10:13.610 one to say I will start a revolution to get Costco. 00:10:14.149 --> 00:10:19.809 Les italiennes, les Italians. I'm sorry, but 00:10:19.809 --> 00:10:24.190 ranch makes pizza better than anything I've ever 00:10:24.190 --> 00:10:28.009 tasted. This car right here is called a Waymo. 00:10:28.289 --> 00:10:31.870 Waymo? Is it that? Yeah, Waymo. And for the longest 00:10:31.870 --> 00:10:35.409 time I wondered why it was called a Waymo. It 00:10:35.409 --> 00:10:38.610 is because Amerique has Waymo than the rest of 00:10:38.610 --> 00:10:42.529 the world. Ranch was the big hit, by the way. 00:10:42.649 --> 00:10:45.029 Pizza with ranch dressing, everyone's running 00:10:45.029 --> 00:10:48.570 away with that one. Gosh, that was so fun. Makes 00:10:48.570 --> 00:10:51.730 me happy. There's one more I want to play and 00:10:51.730 --> 00:10:53.529 yeah, this is you know, there's a lot of oh my 00:10:53.529 --> 00:10:55.830 gosh And what the hell is that? So, please forgive 00:10:55.830 --> 00:10:59.389 me for the clip It ends exactly the way and I 00:10:59.389 --> 00:11:01.590 didn't make this clip. This was put out there 00:11:01.590 --> 00:11:04.309 I mean all of the United States of America. I'm 00:11:04.309 --> 00:11:06.330 in America when they say everything America is 00:11:06.330 --> 00:11:08.750 big I understand it. Why the hell is this quesadilla 00:11:08.750 --> 00:11:19.429 the size of my head? and you take your fingers 00:11:19.429 --> 00:11:21.929 and you lift that up and you eat it okay now 00:11:21.929 --> 00:11:26.730 with a fork nothing comes close to the USA for 00:11:26.730 --> 00:11:40.539 the first time as a family Woman walking alone 00:11:40.539 --> 00:11:44.000 with fancy handbags, jewelry on, glasses on, 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:46.480 they're not being harassed, nothing. If they 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:49.059 were South Africa, gosh, first of all, I wouldn't 00:11:49.059 --> 00:11:50.779 be able to walk through this blooming park by 00:11:50.779 --> 00:11:54.740 myself. Everything just big, ginormous, extra 00:11:54.740 --> 00:12:06.960 large. Oh my god. Give it again. I'm telling 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:10.080 you what, that chicken is delicious. Better than 00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:14.059 KFC. I'm saying so. I'm saying it's better than 00:12:14.059 --> 00:12:16.940 KFC. It's good, it's good. We have Bible verses 00:12:16.940 --> 00:12:19.919 on the bottom of their cup. Never. I just feel 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:21.940 like you're so lucky to live here. Everything 00:12:21.940 --> 00:12:26.960 in the US simply beats anything I've ever experienced 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:29.860 anywhere in the world. God bless America. This 00:12:29.860 --> 00:12:32.620 place is freaking awesome. You can't make this 00:12:32.620 --> 00:12:36.120 up. This is too, too wonderful. All glory goes 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:38.139 to God for preserving this wonderful country. 00:12:38.139 --> 00:12:42.100 Boom. There it is. There it is. Man, I find myself 00:12:42.100 --> 00:12:44.440 getting emotional listening to that. Me too. 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:48.440 Because it seems like anytime you turn on your 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:51.679 newsfeed, it's just, I mean, now, you know, Instagram 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:54.860 just pops up and there's A video of a brawl in 00:12:54.860 --> 00:12:59.059 the street or kids beating up another kid or 00:12:59.059 --> 00:13:01.080 school bus, you know, out of control. I mean, 00:13:01.620 --> 00:13:05.039 just our eyes or whatever. And it just, it's 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:08.840 so disheartening and it, and it makes you it. 00:13:09.370 --> 00:13:12.889 It steals your attention into the negative. Steals 00:13:12.889 --> 00:13:15.730 your joy, literally. Exactly. Instead of actually 00:13:15.730 --> 00:13:19.009 seeing that there's so much more good out there. 00:13:19.450 --> 00:13:22.570 And sometimes it takes outsiders coming in to 00:13:22.570 --> 00:13:26.970 point out what we take for granted. Costco, that 00:13:26.970 --> 00:13:29.450 was awesome. That whole bit on Costco was amazing. 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:34.919 So let me read this in light of what we just 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:37.539 did. Tell me what you think about this. The title 00:13:37.539 --> 00:13:40.720 of it is bite your tongue. You complain about 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:43.600 traffic because you have a car. You complain 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:46.860 about laundry because you have clothes. You complain 00:13:46.860 --> 00:13:49.840 about dishes because you ate. You complain about 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:52.519 packing because you get to travel. You complain 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:55.779 about taxes because you earned. You complain 00:13:55.779 --> 00:13:58.679 about your job because you have one. You complain 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:01.779 about a full inbox because people need you. You 00:14:01.779 --> 00:14:04.059 complain about noise because you have a family. 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:06.740 You complain about exercise because your body 00:14:06.740 --> 00:14:10.379 moves. You complain about wrinkles because you 00:14:10.379 --> 00:14:13.279 lived. You complain about gray hair because you 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:16.139 made it this far. You complain about change because 00:14:16.139 --> 00:14:19.779 you're growing. Wow, if that would only fit on 00:14:19.779 --> 00:14:23.120 a t -shirt. Man, I read that. Who wrote that? 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:28.639 That is so good. Well, it's a web thing, an Instagram 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:32.960 key to success. key for success mind. So it's 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:36.100 just one of those. Just a reminder, just like 00:14:36.100 --> 00:14:38.580 hearing that, that they did the same thing to 00:14:38.580 --> 00:14:41.600 me. What it does, it makes me pause and go, take 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:44.759 a step back. What hit me the most is you complain 00:14:44.759 --> 00:14:48.080 about dirty dishes because you ate. Like, how 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:50.000 much of the world does not get to eat three a 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:51.779 day? Every one of those carry a lot of weight. 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:54.580 I mean, it's almost unfair to read them all off 00:14:54.580 --> 00:14:58.500 that quick. That is so good. But hearing these 00:14:58.500 --> 00:15:04.960 precious, I love the world. I love the people 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:08.700 of the world because when you go to their culture, 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:11.580 you're introduced to things and we're just as 00:15:11.580 --> 00:15:13.879 wow in their country. We love the croissant. 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:17.600 Absolutely. I'll give my left arm for a croissant. 00:15:17.779 --> 00:15:21.659 I'll give my ribs for a croissant or my rib eye. 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:25.500 But that's the beauty of when you get to go to 00:15:25.500 --> 00:15:29.279 other places and experience that. But it also 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:31.539 still makes you grateful for what you have. I 00:15:31.539 --> 00:15:33.820 mean, even though you're wowed by these things, 00:15:34.279 --> 00:15:37.259 you're still grateful. And always come back from 00:15:37.259 --> 00:15:39.340 those kinds of trips, whether it's a mission 00:15:39.340 --> 00:15:42.120 trip or it's a working trip or pleasure trip, 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:45.320 and then come back just grateful. Because you're 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:48.820 reminded, wow. You're upset you have to pack 00:15:48.820 --> 00:15:51.100 because you get to travel. Are you kidding me 00:15:51.100 --> 00:15:55.740 now? That is so recognizable and so good. Count 00:15:55.740 --> 00:15:58.799 your blessings. That's what it is, just count 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:01.799 your blessings. That's amazing. So welcome everybody 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:04.200 to America. We love having you here for the World 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:06.899 Cup. Not everybody hates soccer. We actually 00:16:06.899 --> 00:16:08.679 love, a lot of people love it. Man, I love the 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:11.399 sport. I especially love the drama kings. Oh, 00:16:11.539 --> 00:16:13.559 that's the whole, that's part of it. That's hysterical. 00:16:13.620 --> 00:16:15.820 They've actually, I think they've ruined it a 00:16:15.820 --> 00:16:17.460 little bit because now we have something called 00:16:17.460 --> 00:16:22.360 the VAR, the Video Assisted Referee. Oh. So someone 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:24.559 can say, you know, he didn't actually kick him 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:26.980 in the shins and then they can go and check it. 00:16:27.059 --> 00:16:30.799 Right. And like, so that happened during the, 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:35.279 that was America Paraguay. One of our guys got 00:16:35.279 --> 00:16:38.460 a yellow card, ooh, a yellow card for tripping 00:16:38.460 --> 00:16:42.379 a guy they called a VAR. the referee goes over, 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:45.720 the guy didn't even touch him. But of course 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:50.460 the player went down like, oh, oh, oh. And then 00:16:50.460 --> 00:16:52.399 he actually gave the yellow card to the other 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:54.220 player, which is something that has never happened 00:16:54.220 --> 00:16:56.809 in World Cup history. But it kind of ruins the 00:16:56.809 --> 00:16:59.210 game. Yeah. Because the drama of it. Part of 00:16:59.210 --> 00:17:01.230 that's the show. You're supposed to be arguing 00:17:01.230 --> 00:17:03.090 with your buddy. It's the show. That's bull crap. 00:17:03.529 --> 00:17:05.930 He didn't even touch him. And then there's the 00:17:05.930 --> 00:17:08.930 off sides monitor too. That's out of bounds basically. 00:17:09.109 --> 00:17:12.910 Right. If a player gets behind any other player 00:17:12.910 --> 00:17:14.950 before the ball gets there. I didn't know exactly 00:17:14.950 --> 00:17:17.650 how it works. Now they have that electronified. 00:17:18.170 --> 00:17:22.200 So okay, we'll live with it. Listen, I thought 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:25.039 I was tough playing football like American football, 00:17:25.099 --> 00:17:28.220 which it is. I mean, I'm paying for it now, my 00:17:28.220 --> 00:17:33.480 body. You complain about your body because you 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:37.680 got to move. Well, rugby, rugby, those guys are 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:41.279 beasts. Hardcore. My gosh. That's hardcore. Sometimes 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:44.000 I'll just watch videos. And I love watching New 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:47.849 Zealand when they do the Hawkeye. You know, that 00:17:47.849 --> 00:17:51.170 war dance. You know what I'm talking about? Gosh, 00:17:51.430 --> 00:17:53.950 it's intense, man. Those guys are like, for real. 00:17:54.250 --> 00:17:56.690 But I do love soccer. I do. It's a great sport. 00:17:56.690 --> 00:17:59.490 And by the way, we're allowed to say soccer because 00:17:59.490 --> 00:18:04.230 even the Europeans are saying it's okay. Okay. 00:18:04.230 --> 00:18:07.019 I don't want to insult. And the reason why. Football 00:18:07.019 --> 00:18:09.779 used that's what rugby was it started off with 00:18:09.779 --> 00:18:13.420 football in long time ago in the UK and sorry 00:18:13.420 --> 00:18:17.079 in England It was football and then this what 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:19.900 we call soccer started They call that association 00:18:19.900 --> 00:18:24.900 football and they took the SOCC Oh from association 00:18:24.900 --> 00:18:27.799 would call it sock. They call you to go into 00:18:27.799 --> 00:18:30.359 sock instead of association. So that's how it 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:32.900 became soccer. And actually they used it in England 00:18:32.900 --> 00:18:37.599 for many years. So it's okay. Everyone loves 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:41.519 us. We love having them here. They're good fans. 00:18:42.539 --> 00:18:45.640 Come get some barbecue. You haven't lived until 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:49.240 you see the Scots in a bar, Scottish fans, with 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:51.559 a guy standing on the table and an acoustic guitar 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:54.589 singing Country Road. and they're all singing 00:18:54.589 --> 00:18:57.690 it. They all know the words. There's nothing 00:18:57.690 --> 00:19:01.250 quite like that. That lifted my spirit so much. 00:19:01.269 --> 00:19:03.349 This is the spice of life. This is what makes 00:19:03.349 --> 00:19:06.690 life joyful. And it's a reminder that it's not 00:19:06.690 --> 00:19:11.069 bad everywhere. It's not all bad. And I think 00:19:11.069 --> 00:19:14.589 that's what you and I, we keep talking about 00:19:14.589 --> 00:19:17.170 social media and it's not that it's legacy media, 00:19:17.309 --> 00:19:19.509 it's news media, it's all the different mediums 00:19:19.509 --> 00:19:22.880 out there. It's not all bad and people are not 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:26.519 all bad We need to be reminded of that when we 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:29.160 were watching video and doom -scrolling watching 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:32.220 people line up in a protest and yelling in each 00:19:32.220 --> 00:19:35.579 other's faces getting physical and it's so easy 00:19:35.579 --> 00:19:39.079 to get taken down the hole the rabbit hole of 00:19:39.079 --> 00:19:42.720 Humanity is done. You know, they're just we're 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:45.880 screwed. We're all screwed Well, actually it's 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:49.000 not that way that bad I was reading an article 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:53.619 today that my friend Dave Jones shared with me, 00:19:54.099 --> 00:19:56.720 and it was about a guy named Justin Jackson. 00:19:57.759 --> 00:20:00.779 He wrote an article about that he has a company, 00:20:00.940 --> 00:20:02.660 he has a business partner, they're not in the 00:20:02.660 --> 00:20:05.859 same state, and they communicate over Slack, 00:20:06.019 --> 00:20:09.220 which is basically just another text messaging 00:20:09.220 --> 00:20:15.650 app. And they got into a real Disagreement over 00:20:15.650 --> 00:20:18.130 something which went on for weeks and weeks and 00:20:18.130 --> 00:20:21.630 weeks and until their wives said hey You guys 00:20:21.630 --> 00:20:23.710 need to get together to figure this out and they 00:20:23.710 --> 00:20:25.329 and they so they figured the thing out within 00:20:25.329 --> 00:20:28.690 30 minutes So the person to person thing is incredibly 00:20:28.690 --> 00:20:31.069 important, but what struck me about the article 00:20:31.069 --> 00:20:34.170 and this comes down to social media So all day 00:20:34.170 --> 00:20:37.829 long we are texting you and I text We text with 00:20:37.829 --> 00:20:41.089 our wives, our husbands. We're texting, we're 00:20:41.089 --> 00:20:43.450 texting. Then we go on social media and we text 00:20:43.450 --> 00:20:45.630 back at someone and we're arguing with someone. 00:20:45.829 --> 00:20:47.670 And then we switch right back to our spouse. 00:20:48.369 --> 00:20:52.150 What can happen there? What could possibly go 00:20:52.150 --> 00:20:55.809 wrong? that you're hearing the person on social 00:20:55.809 --> 00:20:58.690 media, hearing their words, you don't know what 00:20:58.690 --> 00:21:00.670 you're talking about. And then your spouse sends 00:21:00.670 --> 00:21:03.309 you something and you hear it in that same voice 00:21:03.309 --> 00:21:06.589 because it was only separated by 1 .5 seconds. 00:21:06.589 --> 00:21:09.049 Wow. Got to be aware of this. It certainly made 00:21:09.049 --> 00:21:13.109 me think, oh, wow, you know, do I sometimes interpret? 00:21:13.970 --> 00:21:15.930 Because, you know, text has no context often. 00:21:16.069 --> 00:21:20.710 Do I, do I interpret things and vice versa? You 00:21:20.710 --> 00:21:25.819 know, do I think so? They must be upset. They 00:21:25.819 --> 00:21:29.720 wrote all caps. They're mad. We start to interpret 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:33.160 text and try to give it nuance. Here's something 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:38.079 that's fun to do. Whenever your friend, partner, 00:21:38.200 --> 00:21:41.099 spouse says, oh, look at this text I received, 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:44.940 ask them to read it out loud. I guarantee you, 00:21:44.940 --> 00:21:47.960 you will start smiling because they will start 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:51.119 acting out the words. They'll add the inflections. 00:21:52.670 --> 00:21:55.769 I don't think cha -pa, cha -pa, cha -pa. And 00:21:55.769 --> 00:21:58.049 I was like, wow, you're really mimicking that 00:21:58.049 --> 00:21:59.710 person's voice. Do you say honey like I did? 00:21:59.869 --> 00:22:05.009 Honey, honey. No, I say darling. I throw out 00:22:05.009 --> 00:22:08.089 the darling. And I never throw out the babe. 00:22:08.309 --> 00:22:12.930 I never do that one. No, that's bad. But it's 00:22:12.930 --> 00:22:15.349 just another thing that I'm trying to be more 00:22:15.349 --> 00:22:18.789 cognizant and conscious of what I'm actually 00:22:18.789 --> 00:22:22.890 doing, man. So anyway, and I think in that regard, 00:22:23.109 --> 00:22:25.430 Zoom meetings are probably not a bad thing. Yeah. 00:22:25.529 --> 00:22:28.069 At least you can see expressions. Just hope they 00:22:28.069 --> 00:22:29.470 don't have to get up and go to the bathroom and 00:22:29.470 --> 00:22:31.029 they didn't put their pants on, you know, those 00:22:31.029 --> 00:22:32.690 kind of meetings. Well, that only happens with 00:22:32.690 --> 00:22:38.869 CNN commentators. So we watched the movie. Yeah. 00:22:39.190 --> 00:22:44.930 Wow. This was a movie that, interesting, was 00:22:44.930 --> 00:22:48.299 freely available on YouTube. which I guess they 00:22:48.299 --> 00:22:50.180 have some kind of deals and they'll put older 00:22:50.180 --> 00:22:55.839 movies on YouTube. And I got this from Sir Brian 00:22:55.839 --> 00:23:01.259 Lawson. He's a No Agenda listener. And he says, 00:23:01.440 --> 00:23:03.859 I was searching for something to watch, found 00:23:03.859 --> 00:23:06.740 it on a Christian movie YouTube channel. I'm 00:23:06.740 --> 00:23:10.700 a semi atheist. But I thought it was plus one 00:23:10.700 --> 00:23:14.259 for entertaining, plus one for fun. And he said, 00:23:14.259 --> 00:23:17.190 I think you'd enjoy it. that I happened to be 00:23:17.190 --> 00:23:19.569 alone by myself. I'm like, all right. And it 00:23:19.569 --> 00:23:22.069 was the afternoon. I'm like, I'll turn this thing 00:23:22.069 --> 00:23:25.049 on. It's called The Time Changers. And you want 00:23:25.049 --> 00:23:28.170 to, cause I then told you, you should check it 00:23:28.170 --> 00:23:30.170 out. And you want to tell me what your impression 00:23:30.170 --> 00:23:32.089 was in the summary. Well, because we're on vacation 00:23:32.089 --> 00:23:34.109 and we're binge watching When Calls the Heart. 00:23:34.269 --> 00:23:37.390 I said, let's take a break. Let's break from 00:23:37.390 --> 00:23:38.470 this for a second. There's 14 seasons and we're 00:23:38.470 --> 00:23:40.170 on season 10 right now. I'm like, let's take 00:23:40.170 --> 00:23:43.380 a break. And I said, Adam sent me a link to a 00:23:43.380 --> 00:23:45.079 movie, so let's check it out. She said, okay, 00:23:45.099 --> 00:23:47.000 let's do it. And Adam doesn't recommend stuff. 00:23:47.059 --> 00:23:50.339 No, no, you don't. And so we watched the movie 00:23:50.339 --> 00:23:54.900 and it was a delight, but there was also a lot 00:23:54.900 --> 00:23:56.819 of weight and gravity to it. It's one of those 00:23:56.819 --> 00:23:59.480 movies. It's made in 2002. It's called Time Changers, 00:23:59.500 --> 00:24:01.460 probably mentioned that. And it's a Christian 00:24:01.460 --> 00:24:04.119 movie and Christian movies have come a long way, 00:24:04.119 --> 00:24:06.400 production in the last couple of years. But even 00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:11.529 that one from 2002. Not bad. Captain Stubing 00:24:11.529 --> 00:24:13.990 from The Love Boat plays a major role. And it 00:24:13.990 --> 00:24:15.829 took me a bit to get over that, but I finally 00:24:15.829 --> 00:24:18.349 got there. Gavin McLeod. Yes, that's right. Yeah. 00:24:18.769 --> 00:24:21.690 Jennifer O 'Neill. Yes. Yeah, there's several. 00:24:21.829 --> 00:24:26.269 Some real actors in there. Yeah. And the movie 00:24:26.269 --> 00:24:29.369 was delightful, but it was also, you want me 00:24:29.369 --> 00:24:31.529 to just give the premise? Yeah. Basic premise. 00:24:31.549 --> 00:24:33.470 People will enjoy it no matter what. Okay. Yeah. 00:24:33.470 --> 00:24:38.029 Yeah. So it's set in the 1800s and it's at a 00:24:38.029 --> 00:24:43.670 Bible seminary. and all of these very smart deans, 00:24:44.549 --> 00:24:47.230 professors, and Bible professors sitting around 00:24:47.230 --> 00:24:49.470 a table and they're talking. And one of the guys 00:24:49.470 --> 00:24:51.769 comes in, he's very excited because he has just 00:24:51.769 --> 00:24:54.750 written a new book. He asked them to review the 00:24:54.750 --> 00:24:56.529 book and they all go around the table and everybody 00:24:56.529 --> 00:24:58.529 seems real happy about it except for Captain 00:24:58.529 --> 00:25:02.750 Stubbe. He comes in and he kind of throws, man, 00:25:02.809 --> 00:25:05.869 water on the party, on the fire. But he makes 00:25:05.869 --> 00:25:09.880 an observation. the book was written from a Christian 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:13.640 perspective about Christian things and morality 00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:16.660 and all that, and yet very little reference, 00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:21.440 if any, to Jesus Christ. Actually disconnecting 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:24.119 it. Yeah, it was disconnected. So they were the 00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:26.740 biblical principles, but not connected to the 00:25:26.740 --> 00:25:30.000 gospel. That was kind of the Captain Stubbig's 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:33.380 thing. I can't remember his name in the movie, 00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:38.859 but anyway. So he calls it out. And he's very 00:25:38.859 --> 00:25:41.420 firm in his stance. So he's the party pooper 00:25:41.420 --> 00:25:43.819 of the whole group. Right. And they needed unanimity 00:25:43.819 --> 00:25:45.380 to do all this. Yes, they had to have unanimous 00:25:45.380 --> 00:25:48.319 to actually get his book published. And he was 00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:51.799 up against a deadline. So what we didn't know 00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:58.500 is that Captain Stubbig's father Had invented 00:25:58.500 --> 00:26:00.859 something. Yes, that's we can get this all those 00:26:00.859 --> 00:26:03.380 spoilers. No, no spoilers Yeah, okay, so but 00:26:03.380 --> 00:26:06.000 it but it had to do with you know being able 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:08.319 to be in another culture So to speak there you 00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:10.700 go see different things different perspective 00:26:10.700 --> 00:26:13.940 So he invites the guy over says we need to talk. 00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:15.940 That's I need you to come over my house He's 00:26:15.940 --> 00:26:19.380 real resistant long story short. He ends up going 00:26:19.380 --> 00:26:23.279 there sees this invention and It puts him on 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:29.269 an adventure That is fascinating. And funny. 00:26:29.970 --> 00:26:33.890 There's a lot of funny moments in it. Took me 00:26:33.890 --> 00:26:38.990 back to Elf. In that sense. Sort of that innocence. 00:26:40.789 --> 00:26:43.329 Being in another place. Yes, where in the world 00:26:43.329 --> 00:26:46.549 am I? Yeah, exactly. So anyway, there it is. 00:26:46.990 --> 00:26:50.849 And it's a major shocker for the guy. And there's 00:26:50.849 --> 00:26:53.369 a lot of just little vignette scenes that just... 00:26:53.339 --> 00:26:56.839 really teach some great lessons. What it did 00:26:56.839 --> 00:27:02.480 for me coming away was how quickly we can lose 00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:06.039 the simplicity of the gospel and the simplicity 00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:09.619 of walking with God to where, like all these 00:27:09.619 --> 00:27:12.680 Bible professors sitting around making it complicated, 00:27:12.900 --> 00:27:16.500 using it very pontificating, having this very 00:27:16.500 --> 00:27:19.279 elegant language which nobody can understand, 00:27:19.339 --> 00:27:24.680 even themselves sometimes. bringing it back to 00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:28.220 just the purity of the simple Christian life. 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.319 So let me share a quick story. So in 2005 or 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:34.599 six, Annette and I, we were a part of a movement 00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:36.819 of churches and we would do these world conferences. 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:40.240 And so we'd have many nations show up and we'd 00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:42.960 be thousands and we'd meet at LA at Anaheim Stadium 00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:46.980 or wherever. Huge. At one time, Pastor Brett 00:27:46.980 --> 00:27:50.619 Fuller, African -American, brilliant guy, sharp, 00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:55.869 classy. He lives up in the Washington DC area, 00:27:55.910 --> 00:27:58.829 pastors of great church. Every time he preaches, 00:27:59.009 --> 00:28:01.549 he's going to bring something sharp. I mean, 00:28:01.549 --> 00:28:03.809 you just go, whoa, every time. He's that guy, 00:28:04.150 --> 00:28:08.390 brilliant, classy. He walks up on the stage and 00:28:08.390 --> 00:28:11.630 there's a stool up there in a music stand, not 00:28:11.630 --> 00:28:14.630 normal, in these big conferences. And he's got 00:28:14.630 --> 00:28:18.170 his iPhone, no Bible. He opens up his phone, 00:28:18.190 --> 00:28:21.029 sits down. He looks around the crowd and he said, 00:28:21.190 --> 00:28:25.369 you know, I wrote a sermon for today, but we 00:28:25.369 --> 00:28:28.250 don't need another sermon. He said, we need to 00:28:28.250 --> 00:28:32.049 talk. And he sets his phone down. He had left 00:28:32.049 --> 00:28:33.970 it open because he had some notes. And he said, 00:28:35.109 --> 00:28:38.829 what would the world be like? What would we be 00:28:38.829 --> 00:28:42.769 like if we just were good Christians? He spent 00:28:42.769 --> 00:28:47.349 the next 30 plus minutes talking about What would 00:28:47.349 --> 00:28:51.910 it mean to get back to the simple gospel? Loving 00:28:51.910 --> 00:28:54.289 your neighbor, treating others like you want 00:28:54.289 --> 00:28:58.650 to be treated, not judging your neighbors, feeding 00:28:58.650 --> 00:29:03.210 the poor, taking care of the broken, ministering. 00:29:03.609 --> 00:29:08.329 I mean, those conferences are always hype, hype, 00:29:08.849 --> 00:29:13.519 hype, glam glitz. It's kind of like... It's kind 00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:15.940 of like when Trump comes out on the platform 00:29:15.940 --> 00:29:19.240 and there's sparklers going off, kind of like 00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:22.500 a TPUSA event or something. Another good example. 00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:26.339 Yeah, typical rah rah. He just comes out, he 00:29:26.339 --> 00:29:29.480 totally strips all that down and slayed the whole 00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:32.180 place. And when he was done, he got a standing 00:29:32.180 --> 00:29:35.059 ovation because everybody in that room was going, 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:39.660 we have run too far. We have so convoluted and 00:29:39.660 --> 00:29:42.680 complicated this thing. We've got church growth 00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.660 conferences. We've got missional conferences. 00:29:45.900 --> 00:29:48.220 We've got missions conferences. I mean, we've 00:29:48.220 --> 00:29:52.299 got all this worship conferences. We've so convoluted 00:29:52.299 --> 00:29:54.920 and so complicated things that we don't even 00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:57.630 know what we're doing. Christian radio conferences. 00:29:58.269 --> 00:30:02.049 We sure do. You'd be surprised. We sure do. And 00:30:02.049 --> 00:30:05.369 it's amazing. Sometimes it takes one voice, just 00:30:05.369 --> 00:30:07.549 like Captain Stubbe coming in that room and shutting 00:30:07.549 --> 00:30:10.049 the room down. It just takes one person going, 00:30:10.210 --> 00:30:13.690 wait a minute. Let's get back to the foundations. 00:30:13.750 --> 00:30:17.309 Let's get back to a childlike faith. That's what 00:30:17.309 --> 00:30:19.589 that movie did for me. It reminded me of that 00:30:19.589 --> 00:30:22.029 moment sitting in that room with thousands of 00:30:22.029 --> 00:30:24.509 people from all over the world. And you could 00:30:24.509 --> 00:30:26.690 have heard a pin drop. Literally, it's like no 00:30:26.690 --> 00:30:29.309 one was breathing for a minute. You could hear 00:30:29.309 --> 00:30:32.609 the fans running in the auditorium. But because 00:30:32.609 --> 00:30:35.730 he, you could tell it landed and that movie did 00:30:35.730 --> 00:30:37.609 the same thing for me. I told Annette, I said, 00:30:37.970 --> 00:30:41.450 I need to process this movie because it really 00:30:41.450 --> 00:30:44.450 spoke to me in some deep places of, you know, 00:30:44.450 --> 00:30:48.329 where have I gotten too far out? Too, too complicated, 00:30:48.829 --> 00:30:52.849 too clever with messages and titles and where 00:30:52.849 --> 00:30:55.930 have we gone too far, you know? And not that 00:30:55.930 --> 00:30:58.650 we're going to go start cutting things and throwing 00:30:58.650 --> 00:31:01.930 things out. It's just, how can we make sure we're 00:31:01.930 --> 00:31:05.089 keeping the message simple and clear? We're competing 00:31:05.089 --> 00:31:08.789 with, and when I say we, you and I, you, Pastor 00:31:08.789 --> 00:31:12.670 Brian, pastors, church leaders, you're competing 00:31:12.670 --> 00:31:16.829 with so much breaking, so many things that have 00:31:16.829 --> 00:31:19.430 to grab someone's attention. A new approach is 00:31:19.430 --> 00:31:22.650 sometimes really refreshing, but it's not easy. 00:31:22.829 --> 00:31:26.240 I mean, the enemy has Just it's interesting that 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:28.380 he put his phone down there because you know 00:31:28.380 --> 00:31:32.259 me and I mean, it's John C. Dvorak actually said 00:31:32.259 --> 00:31:34.920 the other day on the show I think the smartphone 00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:38.920 is the Antichrist Wow, what? Wow, he's convinced 00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:41.259 of this. No, he's convinced of it. That's a strong 00:31:41.259 --> 00:31:45.660 statement So, you know, there's but I mean just 00:31:45.660 --> 00:31:52.259 I observe my own my own mannerisms in usage and 00:31:52.259 --> 00:31:55.170 Yeah after seeing that movie I had exactly the 00:31:55.170 --> 00:32:01.369 same. Overcomplicated, I think, is a very good 00:32:01.369 --> 00:32:05.910 way of describing it. And I have a unique perspective 00:32:05.910 --> 00:32:09.710 of having, well, I don't remember much, a little 00:32:09.710 --> 00:32:12.490 bit of when I was seven years old, growing up 00:32:12.490 --> 00:32:16.650 in Maryland, before moving to Europe. Then coming 00:32:16.650 --> 00:32:21.869 back in 86, being in New Jersey, where, and to 00:32:21.869 --> 00:32:25.160 me, it's always been the neighbors. And the neighbors 00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:27.059 were always like, hey, neighbor, you know, I 00:32:27.059 --> 00:32:28.460 don't remember half the neighbor's name, just 00:32:28.460 --> 00:32:31.519 say, hey, bro, hey, neighbor. Our next door neighbor, 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:33.920 Dennis Mamsher, was just one of those guys. He 00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:36.160 put down poinsettias and Christmas at everyone's 00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.380 house. You know, one of these larger than like, 00:32:38.539 --> 00:32:42.299 he sold Justin's rings, you know, top sales guy. 00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:44.519 I think he's still with us. He's been around 00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:48.420 for a bit. And then I went back to Europe for 00:32:48.420 --> 00:32:51.240 quite a while and then came back and, you know, 00:32:51.819 --> 00:32:55.440 saw how much of that was gone, which is why I 00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:59.119 was so delightful that my neighbor said, hey, 00:32:59.220 --> 00:33:01.240 come on in. Just come on in. Just have a chat. 00:33:01.380 --> 00:33:03.680 Yeah. And interesting how I was pushing back. 00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:05.660 Right. Like, no, no, no. I'll come up with any 00:33:05.660 --> 00:33:08.059 excuse. I'm not prepared for this. Yeah, precisely. 00:33:09.140 --> 00:33:10.460 And you know what? I have the right clothes on. 00:33:10.660 --> 00:33:12.460 You know what? I'm not presentable. Their hair 00:33:12.460 --> 00:33:16.720 wasn't great either, to be honest about it. And 00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:21.359 yeah, we have lost. I don't know if it's lost 00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:26.000 or what it is, but there's something that I think 00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:28.579 is still there. Oh, it's there. We just need 00:33:28.579 --> 00:33:31.339 to figure out the triggers to revive it, which 00:33:31.339 --> 00:33:34.339 I think can only come through loving your neighbor. 00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:39.220 What a crazy, uncomplicated thought. And I'm 00:33:39.220 --> 00:33:40.940 always waving. This is what I love about Texas, 00:33:41.160 --> 00:33:44.279 man. You've got to wave at everybody, no matter 00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:47.089 what. I love, I always gauge waves. You know, 00:33:47.150 --> 00:33:52.650 you can rate them. So growing up in Lubbock was, 00:33:52.730 --> 00:33:54.609 you know, it was a big enough, you know, city 00:33:54.609 --> 00:33:56.529 that people didn't wave there. But when I moved 00:33:56.529 --> 00:33:58.750 to post Texas, you had to waver. You'd get in 00:33:58.750 --> 00:34:01.410 a fight. Hey, man, why don't you wave at me? 00:34:02.349 --> 00:34:04.990 Hey, what do you want some of this? I mean, literally, 00:34:04.990 --> 00:34:07.529 I learned real quick, man. I drive with my hand 00:34:07.529 --> 00:34:09.429 on the top of the steering wheel and you learn 00:34:09.429 --> 00:34:14.349 the bump, whatever. So this morning and our walk 00:34:14.349 --> 00:34:18.139 in our neighborhood and. People wave, you know 00:34:18.139 --> 00:34:20.000 until they don't and then we're like, what's 00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.300 wrong with him? I mean literally like it's out 00:34:22.300 --> 00:34:24.400 of place. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, they're driving 00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:28.079 a Subaru. So that told me but anyway Rice Burner 00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:33.500 the better But you know, I It was funny today 00:34:33.500 --> 00:34:35.519 because then though the funniest wave was it 00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:39.329 was a like a schoolgirl driving a pickup, but 00:34:39.329 --> 00:34:41.349 she was young and she could tell she'd never 00:34:41.349 --> 00:34:43.389 waved at anybody because we waved real big at 00:34:43.389 --> 00:34:45.769 her and she didn't know what to do. I was laughing. 00:34:45.929 --> 00:34:47.829 I said, boy, that was an awkward way. I don't 00:34:47.829 --> 00:34:50.730 think she's ever waved at anybody. But that idea 00:34:50.730 --> 00:34:53.730 of just that general friendliness, it's still 00:34:53.730 --> 00:35:00.090 there. I think we can get so lost in the web 00:35:00.090 --> 00:35:04.949 and podcasting and news media to where we think 00:35:04.949 --> 00:35:07.780 the whole world is like, that microcosm that 00:35:07.780 --> 00:35:10.480 is on that small screen. And it is just that. 00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:13.659 It's just that. Yes. And real people are not 00:35:13.659 --> 00:35:16.380 like that. No. And I don't know where they get 00:35:16.380 --> 00:35:19.019 all these goofballs to go do all these protests. 00:35:19.099 --> 00:35:21.420 That's paying them. I know they do that. But 00:35:21.420 --> 00:35:23.199 at the end of the day, that's not the majority 00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:27.280 of people in the world or in America. And I want 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:32.139 to keep finding those golden hills. We got to 00:35:32.139 --> 00:35:35.309 keep finding it and calling it out. and just 00:35:35.309 --> 00:35:38.210 be good neighbors. But I love what pastor Brett 00:35:38.210 --> 00:35:42.690 Fuller said, just be a good Christian. And you 00:35:42.690 --> 00:35:44.909 know, I love the movie, it calls us back to the 00:35:44.909 --> 00:35:47.250 gospel though. People need help understanding 00:35:47.250 --> 00:35:49.670 what that means, just be a good Christian. What 00:35:49.670 --> 00:35:51.849 does that mean? I'm a good person. I'm a moral 00:35:51.849 --> 00:35:54.329 person. It's not the same as a good Christian. 00:35:54.469 --> 00:35:58.929 That's the thing is we have a basis for our morality 00:35:58.929 --> 00:36:03.199 and a basis for our apologies and our Needing 00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:06.260 to ask forgiveness for our mistakes. It all comes 00:36:06.260 --> 00:36:10.099 back to Jesus Christ Most controversial figure 00:36:10.099 --> 00:36:13.079 so controversial you felt like you needed to 00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.280 dive into this conspiracy theory You know because 00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:18.500 I keep hearing about him from people, you know, 00:36:18.500 --> 00:36:20.460 what was up with that dude keeps coming up I 00:36:20.460 --> 00:36:22.699 better I better do some investigation and three 00:36:22.699 --> 00:36:25.480 weeks later. You're like, okay, it's true Okay, 00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:27.980 there's a lot of evidence two weeks two weeks. 00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:31.039 I got there real quick. But yeah, you're right. 00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:34.150 We've got to to try to bring this back down to 00:36:34.150 --> 00:36:36.829 the simplicity of the gospel. And it is gospel 00:36:36.829 --> 00:36:40.010 -based. It's not just morality -based. If you 00:36:40.010 --> 00:36:42.610 just base morality on the season you're in, the 00:36:42.610 --> 00:36:46.030 seasons change. Everything changes. But the thing 00:36:46.030 --> 00:36:48.630 about the compass, it has to have a true north. 00:36:49.329 --> 00:36:51.829 And so that's what scripture is. That's what 00:36:51.829 --> 00:36:54.469 belief in Christ is. It's a true north that you 00:36:54.469 --> 00:36:57.730 can always go back to. Even if you abandoned 00:36:57.730 --> 00:37:01.269 it, even if you failed, even if you messed up, 00:37:01.449 --> 00:37:05.170 You can always find true north again. That, you 00:37:05.170 --> 00:37:07.969 see my face go, hmm, because you said true north. 00:37:08.030 --> 00:37:11.949 Now in aviation, we have a compass, and we have 00:37:11.949 --> 00:37:14.769 a magnetic north, and then we have a true north. 00:37:15.030 --> 00:37:18.150 They are not the same thing. Interesting. In 00:37:18.150 --> 00:37:21.449 fact, you have to calibrate. Every airplane in 00:37:21.449 --> 00:37:24.329 the front will have a little deviation chart 00:37:24.329 --> 00:37:28.519 to show you how far the magnetic north is. from 00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.519 true north. Which one do you all drive or fly? 00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.559 What's your basis? What's your reference point? 00:37:34.579 --> 00:37:37.059 It depends if you're dead reckoning. If you want 00:37:37.059 --> 00:37:40.860 to go straight up, you want to go north as the 00:37:40.860 --> 00:37:43.780 map or you're going towards a coordinate. Oh, 00:37:43.780 --> 00:37:49.239 gotcha. It's really there for, oh Lord, I have 00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:51.519 no idea where I am, but I have this map. I need 00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:55.389 to go true north. versus magnetic north. And 00:37:55.389 --> 00:37:57.969 that magnetic north changes regularly. You know 00:37:57.969 --> 00:38:01.550 how the poles shift? So they change regularly 00:38:01.550 --> 00:38:04.389 and that is always posted in the aircraft. So 00:38:04.389 --> 00:38:07.789 the analogy for me is, you know, here's the magnetic 00:38:07.789 --> 00:38:10.349 north, which is pulling me towards what I believe 00:38:10.349 --> 00:38:14.329 is north, but it's not actually true north. That 00:38:14.329 --> 00:38:17.829 just dawned on me. For me, Jesus Christ is that. 00:38:18.050 --> 00:38:20.809 That's who and what I come back to. I come back 00:38:20.809 --> 00:38:23.739 to the gospel. That's the what. the good news 00:38:23.739 --> 00:38:27.500 of who He is. That's the message. The who is 00:38:27.500 --> 00:38:32.440 Him. I come back to Him and it's always come 00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:36.960 back and say, here I am, Lord, again. Again, 00:38:37.659 --> 00:38:40.000 I'm the persistent widow banging on the door. 00:38:41.539 --> 00:38:45.420 Lord, I just need to recalibrate. I do that often. 00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:49.719 That's an ongoing thing for me. You know, our 00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:52.500 grandparents had those old rusty bottom scales, 00:38:52.500 --> 00:38:54.500 you know, in the bathrooms. Remember that? Oh, 00:38:54.500 --> 00:38:58.699 yeah. You didn't want to stand on it. Yeah. Then 00:38:58.699 --> 00:39:00.739 if you had to calibrate it, which they were never 00:39:00.739 --> 00:39:03.500 right, you know, you're like, what am I? Crusty 00:39:03.500 --> 00:39:06.920 dial. Why is it rusted? There's a visual for 00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:08.739 you. Yeah. So, you know, there's that. And so 00:39:08.739 --> 00:39:12.340 there's a recalibration that as believers we 00:39:12.340 --> 00:39:14.639 have to do. And I think that movie did that for 00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:17.900 me. It was like... Take a pause here and go. 00:39:18.019 --> 00:39:21.260 Okay. Am I really flying towards true north? 00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:24.000 Or am I just moving with magnetic north wherever 00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:26.280 it happens to be at the time? I haven't even 00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:30.000 considered this one. What an analogy it is Yeah, 00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:32.780 so that that's what that movie did for me. It 00:39:32.780 --> 00:39:35.820 doesn't made me recalibrate and make sure I'm 00:39:35.820 --> 00:39:38.179 I'm on to dead or rights as you said that I'm 00:39:38.179 --> 00:39:41.840 on and That's where I'm gonna go. Okay, I'm back. 00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:44.579 So it was good for me still good for me. I'm 00:39:44.579 --> 00:39:48.789 still really reveling in it a little bit, in 00:39:48.789 --> 00:39:51.610 a good way. No, I have to say. And yet the movie 00:39:51.610 --> 00:39:54.969 was pretty cheesy. I mean, special effects were 00:39:54.969 --> 00:39:58.030 hysterical, but I liked it. I'd say it was five 00:39:58.030 --> 00:40:00.550 on the cheese scale. Yeah. I liked it though. 00:40:00.570 --> 00:40:03.389 Yeah. And the cheese factor was kind of good, 00:40:03.929 --> 00:40:07.690 especially when our subject was going through 00:40:07.690 --> 00:40:11.250 his adventure. That kind of made it even more. 00:40:11.369 --> 00:40:14.230 It did. It did. Relatable to me. Paul Rodriguez, 00:40:14.469 --> 00:40:16.909 another famous act. Paul, he's the comedian. 00:40:16.909 --> 00:40:18.889 Yeah, yeah, he was in there. He was Eddie. Eddie. 00:40:20.170 --> 00:40:23.030 Fun Eddie. Paul, I just remembered, I want to 00:40:23.030 --> 00:40:26.349 mention, just throwing back to World Cup, you 00:40:26.349 --> 00:40:28.329 know, the Netherlands is not a very faithful 00:40:28.329 --> 00:40:32.050 country anymore, but it was so beautiful to see 00:40:32.050 --> 00:40:35.769 a Dutch player who scored a goal. I think Somerville 00:40:35.769 --> 00:40:38.429 is his name. I can't remember. And so they have 00:40:38.429 --> 00:40:40.670 a close -up of him as he's, you know, and he 00:40:40.670 --> 00:40:44.400 goes up, two arms up like this, looking up, pointing 00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:47.139 towards heaven, and his whole arm was tattooed 00:40:47.139 --> 00:40:52.059 child of God. Wow. And I just love that. Love 00:40:52.059 --> 00:40:54.179 to see stuff like that. God is everywhere. He's 00:40:54.179 --> 00:40:57.460 all over the world. He's moving. He is moving. 00:40:57.739 --> 00:41:01.119 He's even moving in our vice president who wrote 00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.019 a book about his faith journey. I heard about 00:41:04.019 --> 00:41:08.860 this. I always thought like, wow, man, I came 00:41:08.860 --> 00:41:12.820 out of the the atheist closet on the Joe Rogan 00:41:12.820 --> 00:41:14.659 show. It's a little different when you're vice 00:41:14.659 --> 00:41:16.599 president, you know, and you say, hey, by the 00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:19.460 way, I'm a believer. Another level. And it's 00:41:19.460 --> 00:41:21.000 interesting because he has an interfaith marriage. 00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:24.739 His wife is a Hindu. Right. And I just pulled 00:41:24.739 --> 00:41:26.739 two clips from this interview they did together 00:41:26.739 --> 00:41:30.659 just to hear another believer. And it's wonderful 00:41:30.659 --> 00:41:33.539 to just hear how easy he is to speak about it. 00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:39.329 This is on CBS. You dedicate this book to Usha. 00:41:39.429 --> 00:41:42.110 You write about her extensively in the book. 00:41:42.670 --> 00:41:46.289 Sure. Why was she so pivotal to your journey 00:41:46.289 --> 00:41:50.269 to faith? Well, because one, she was the person 00:41:50.269 --> 00:41:54.070 who encouraged me most to do it. Usha said very 00:41:54.070 --> 00:41:55.969 early on that the business of thinking about 00:41:55.969 --> 00:41:58.960 my faith, thinking about converting, was good 00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:01.260 for me. And so I think that her encouragement 00:42:01.260 --> 00:42:03.840 was one of the things that needed to happen because 00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:06.480 when I started dating I was sort of a proud atheist. 00:42:06.579 --> 00:42:09.159 I was kind of skeptical of religion and skeptical 00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:11.500 of religious people. And when I started thinking 00:42:11.500 --> 00:42:14.039 to myself, you know, I might want to start going 00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:16.829 back to church. One of the big concerns I had 00:42:16.829 --> 00:42:18.829 was, well, Usha didn't really sign up for this. 00:42:18.949 --> 00:42:20.789 She didn't sign up for church every Sunday. She 00:42:20.789 --> 00:42:23.289 didn't sign up for a person who was a very devout 00:42:23.289 --> 00:42:25.590 Christian. And so I was worried that you were 00:42:25.590 --> 00:42:28.469 going to be not supportive of that journey. But 00:42:28.469 --> 00:42:30.670 she was very supportive of the journey in ways 00:42:30.670 --> 00:42:35.059 that big and small. She's supportive in the sense 00:42:35.059 --> 00:42:37.539 that when we take three little kids to church, 00:42:37.619 --> 00:42:39.699 they're always misbehaved. And so, you know, 00:42:39.699 --> 00:42:42.079 she's one of the two people, including me, who's 00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:44.039 trying to deal with that. But she was supportive 00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:46.659 in, I think, more philosophical, almost theological 00:42:46.659 --> 00:42:49.380 ways. She just kept on talking about the way 00:42:49.380 --> 00:42:52.079 in which thinking about these things fundamentally 00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.820 made me a better person. This interfaith thing 00:42:55.820 --> 00:42:58.860 I thought was really interesting. Yeah. Because 00:42:58.860 --> 00:43:02.670 we have in our church, certainly, men and women 00:43:02.670 --> 00:43:06.309 whose spouse aren't believers and don't come 00:43:06.309 --> 00:43:10.309 to church with them. And I just love hearing 00:43:10.309 --> 00:43:12.730 how they support each other. And she doesn't 00:43:12.730 --> 00:43:15.750 really talk much about her faith or her beliefs. 00:43:15.750 --> 00:43:19.210 It's really his book. But he or she is talking 00:43:19.210 --> 00:43:21.670 about that in our second clip. So much of the 00:43:21.670 --> 00:43:24.369 Vice President's new book is about his journey 00:43:24.369 --> 00:43:27.409 from being this person who was vaguely atheist 00:43:27.409 --> 00:43:31.829 to being a practicing Roman Catholic today. We 00:43:31.829 --> 00:43:34.590 know him today as he is, as Vice President of 00:43:34.590 --> 00:43:36.909 the United States, a practicing Catholic. You 00:43:36.909 --> 00:43:40.250 knew him when he was this other person, as he 00:43:40.250 --> 00:43:43.190 describes himself. What was he like then, and 00:43:43.190 --> 00:43:46.250 how drastic is this change to who he is today 00:43:46.250 --> 00:43:52.070 in terms of faith? called himself an atheist 00:43:52.070 --> 00:43:55.570 or maybe an agnostic at the time, but he had 00:43:55.570 --> 00:43:59.789 been raised in a sort of varied evangelical faith 00:43:59.789 --> 00:44:02.449 tradition. So it's not like that wasn't a part 00:44:02.449 --> 00:44:05.869 of the way that he thought about the world. In 00:44:05.869 --> 00:44:08.469 some ways, being an atheist was kind of a separation 00:44:08.469 --> 00:44:11.329 from what had come before, but it still came 00:44:11.329 --> 00:44:14.989 through. His past, his background, and the foundation 00:44:14.989 --> 00:44:16.610 that he got from his grandmother still came through. 00:44:16.869 --> 00:44:20.460 So there are a lot of continuities. That said, 00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:23.900 I think he's more reflective at this stage of 00:44:23.900 --> 00:44:25.840 life. Some of that just comes with age, with 00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:29.139 fatherhood, with maturity and sort of seeing 00:44:29.139 --> 00:44:31.119 how the world developed. But some of it comes 00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:35.880 with religion and what it demands of him. And 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:38.900 I do think that that is really valuable, both 00:44:38.900 --> 00:44:40.900 in our personal relationship, he's maybe more 00:44:40.900 --> 00:44:44.559 reflective in our conversations about what's 00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:46.739 happening in our marriage, what we think about 00:44:46.739 --> 00:44:54.179 things. He's also just more comfortable, I would 00:44:54.179 --> 00:44:57.460 say, in himself today than he was then when he 00:44:57.460 --> 00:44:59.019 felt like he was searching for something and 00:44:59.019 --> 00:45:01.219 didn't know what it was. He feels like he has 00:45:01.219 --> 00:45:03.559 found that something in a very meaningful way, 00:45:03.559 --> 00:45:05.420 and that's really nice. That's something that 00:45:05.420 --> 00:45:07.880 you want for someone that you love. And I thought 00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:11.159 this was encouraging because what you don't hear 00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:14.710 is... The one spouse saying to the other, you've 00:45:14.710 --> 00:45:16.809 got to convert to this. You've got to be like 00:45:16.809 --> 00:45:19.010 this. You've got to come to church with me. They're 00:45:19.010 --> 00:45:21.050 supportive of each other, but she recognizes 00:45:21.050 --> 00:45:24.369 how he's changed. Yeah. And I really like that. 00:45:24.489 --> 00:45:25.929 I thought that was encouraging. That was really 00:45:25.929 --> 00:45:28.909 well done. And she's sharp. Boy, she's sharp. 00:45:29.469 --> 00:45:32.969 I'd seen that in some earlier things. You know, 00:45:33.230 --> 00:45:37.168 irregardless of her faith background, I was like... 00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.780 She's she's I can see how she slayed him. Oh, 00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:44.119 yeah. Oh, yeah He's sharp too, but he's a little 00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:47.480 more rural colloquial, you know, she's just man 00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:50.440 spot -on that was really boy That was a love 00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:53.000 her heart and that mm -hmm, you know, she even 00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:55.599 tried to drive him towards something She wanted 00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.679 him to find his way. Yes. Yes, and that's and 00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:01.579 that's just a lesson for us all I mean, I'm I'm 00:46:01.579 --> 00:46:04.000 so blessed that Tina and I are on this journey 00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:08.650 together and we think We thank Jesus every night 00:46:08.650 --> 00:46:10.409 for being right in the center of our marriage, 00:46:10.889 --> 00:46:16.469 man. We were good, but now we're great. Even 00:46:16.469 --> 00:46:20.849 in the hard times. It's amazing how a disagreement 00:46:20.849 --> 00:46:23.630 or an argument often can be stopped by saying, 00:46:24.449 --> 00:46:26.730 this is the enemy. Do you see what's happening 00:46:26.730 --> 00:46:29.789 here? Let's just recognize that and you know 00:46:29.789 --> 00:46:35.179 what? It's like that old record skip sound. Okay. 00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:37.519 All right. It's abrupt, but you realize, wait 00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:39.380 a minute. Okay. Where's it coming from? And we 00:46:39.380 --> 00:46:41.800 have to ask ourselves too, what mindset are we 00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:44.780 thinking from? Are we defaulting to our upbringing 00:46:44.780 --> 00:46:47.980 and where we were informed about that? Or are 00:46:47.980 --> 00:46:51.579 we defaulting to who we are now in Christ? 2 00:46:51.579 --> 00:46:55.820 .0. Yeah. Am I acting at 1 .0 or am I 2 .0? No, 00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:58.920 no, no. Wait. We got to behave like we're 2 .0. 00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:02.599 And it's a constant reorientation. Reminder, 00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:05.599 reminder, reminder, reminder. Ongoing, because 00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:09.219 it is easy to default. I was talking to my son, 00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:12.860 who's a pastor of a growing multicultural church 00:47:12.860 --> 00:47:16.079 in Houston. Go figure, Houston, right? Six million 00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:18.679 people. I mean, you talk about an international 00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:21.780 city, and he loves doing it. But he told me yesterday, 00:47:21.820 --> 00:47:24.019 he said, Dad, it's hard. And I said, what do 00:47:24.019 --> 00:47:29.860 you mean? He said, even though we we've all to 00:47:29.860 --> 00:47:33.119 a degree laid down who we were to become who 00:47:33.119 --> 00:47:37.280 we are in Christ. I stopped him. I said, so you 00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:39.239 mean when the heat and the pressure is on, there's 00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:42.800 a tendency to default to our cultural core? And 00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:45.940 he said, yeah. He said, that's the struggle. 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:48.400 And I said, but won't that be the struggle the 00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:51.719 rest of our lives to fight against the old man 00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:54.559 so that we can become the new man, the old woman 00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:56.420 so we can become the new woman, the new child 00:47:56.420 --> 00:48:00.690 in God? And there's that constant tension. And 00:48:00.690 --> 00:48:03.090 I said, Chris, that tension will never go away. 00:48:03.670 --> 00:48:09.489 Yeah. It'll always be there. What's hard is when 00:48:09.489 --> 00:48:12.289 Tina and I, if we default into something like 00:48:12.289 --> 00:48:17.110 that, is to with love say, maybe you want to 00:48:17.110 --> 00:48:19.469 look at this from, I've never said it this way, 00:48:19.550 --> 00:48:24.369 but from a 2 .0 version. And she's actually much 00:48:24.369 --> 00:48:28.019 better at that than I am. And that's always the 00:48:28.019 --> 00:48:30.119 challenge when someone is stuck there and like, 00:48:30.260 --> 00:48:34.599 well, maybe look at it from this angle. I'm just 00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:36.760 saying it's not easy. Let me be real with you. 00:48:36.900 --> 00:48:39.019 I mean, you've been at this a little bit less 00:48:39.019 --> 00:48:41.960 than I have time -wise, but it's still there. 00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:45.139 It's still a struggle. Remember Paul, he says, 00:48:45.579 --> 00:48:48.219 I want to do this, but I do this. Then I want 00:48:48.219 --> 00:48:50.139 to do this, but I end up doing this. He says, 00:48:50.860 --> 00:48:53.400 oh, what a wretch I am. I mean, he's just like 00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:57.199 crying out to God. I'm so... conflicted. And 00:48:57.199 --> 00:49:01.219 that's when he says, when God says, but his grace 00:49:01.219 --> 00:49:04.900 is sufficient. His grace is enough. And that's 00:49:04.900 --> 00:49:07.639 when we lean into and go, okay, I'm not a finished 00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:11.920 work yet. I'm finished, but I'm being finished. 00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:14.440 I'm complete, but I'm being complete. And you 00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:17.940 know, this is both. Yeah. At the same time, that's 00:49:17.940 --> 00:49:20.940 the Eastern mindset and that's where this all 00:49:20.940 --> 00:49:25.619 comes out of. So, yeah, yeah. I have, actually 00:49:25.619 --> 00:49:27.900 I had like a four clip series, which I'm not 00:49:27.900 --> 00:49:30.199 going to do. And I was kind of going to tie it 00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:39.820 to the movie. It's old from 1978. It's a pastor, 00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:42.260 Neil Maxwell. And he was kind of talking about, 00:49:42.260 --> 00:49:46.019 if you've heard of him, he was predicting what 00:49:46.019 --> 00:49:48.900 would happen in the future. So, you know, this 00:49:48.900 --> 00:49:51.579 is why it ties into our whole conversation. And 00:49:51.579 --> 00:49:55.130 what you just said, I was going to skip it. But 00:49:55.130 --> 00:49:57.949 I will play the last clip. Thank you. Please 00:49:57.949 --> 00:50:01.590 do. Yeah, you got me going. You can't not do 00:50:01.590 --> 00:50:06.210 it now. I think the ending is pertinent to what 00:50:06.210 --> 00:50:08.409 you were just saying. If the challenge of the 00:50:08.409 --> 00:50:11.969 secular church becomes very real, let us as in 00:50:11.969 --> 00:50:15.170 all other human relationships be principled, 00:50:15.309 --> 00:50:18.929 but pleasant. Let us be perceptive without being 00:50:18.929 --> 00:50:23.300 pompous. Let us have integrity. and not write 00:50:23.300 --> 00:50:26.099 checks with our tongues which our conduct cannot 00:50:26.099 --> 00:50:30.400 cash. Let us be humble and not try to magnify 00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:33.699 our calling by shrinking the calling of others. 00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:37.300 Before the ultimate victory of the forces of 00:50:37.300 --> 00:50:39.739 righteousness, some skirmishes will be lost. 00:50:40.380 --> 00:50:44.340 Even these, however, must leave a record so that 00:50:44.340 --> 00:50:47.019 the choices before the people were clear and 00:50:47.019 --> 00:50:49.639 let others do as they will in the face of prophetic 00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:53.210 counsel. There will also be times, happily, when 00:50:53.210 --> 00:50:56.250 a minor defeat seems probable, but others will 00:50:56.250 --> 00:50:59.250 step forward, having been rallied to rightness 00:50:59.250 --> 00:51:03.369 by what we do. We will know the joy, on occasion, 00:51:04.130 --> 00:51:07.170 of having awakened a slumbering majority of the 00:51:07.170 --> 00:51:10.949 decent people of all races and creeds, a majority 00:51:10.949 --> 00:51:13.949 which was, till then, unconscious of itself. 00:51:14.849 --> 00:51:17.590 Jesus said that when the fig trees put forth 00:51:17.590 --> 00:51:21.820 their leaves, summer is nigh. Thus warned that 00:51:21.820 --> 00:51:24.900 summer is upon us. Let us not then complain of 00:51:24.900 --> 00:51:28.619 the heat." I love that ending. I love the ending 00:51:28.619 --> 00:51:30.460 of that. Man, that is rich. Isn't that good? 00:51:30.820 --> 00:51:33.619 He's weighty with his words. I love that. Yeah. 00:51:33.940 --> 00:51:37.000 That's called economy of words, where he's thought 00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:40.539 through every single one. That's why it survived. 00:51:40.940 --> 00:51:44.039 I just loved at the end, you know, the summer's 00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:46.440 here. Don't complain about the heat. Yeah, it 00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:48.699 kind of goes back to my little thing. Exactly, 00:51:49.219 --> 00:51:51.300 exactly, exactly. Rolling it full circle. Yeah, 00:51:51.460 --> 00:51:53.820 that's so good. Can I end with a scripture? Please 00:51:53.820 --> 00:51:56.980 do. Philippians 1 .27 says this, and this is 00:51:56.980 --> 00:52:00.460 Paul speaking to a church and a group of people 00:52:00.460 --> 00:52:03.519 that he loved. And it's been called a book of 00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:07.659 joy because he says rejoice in it 16 times. So 00:52:07.659 --> 00:52:11.239 he says this, just one thing, one thing. Live 00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:13.900 your life in a manner worthy of the gospel of 00:52:13.900 --> 00:52:17.659 Christ. Just one thing. That's it. There it is. 00:52:17.699 --> 00:52:19.900 That's so good. That's right back to where we 00:52:19.900 --> 00:52:22.920 started about keeping it simple and getting back 00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:26.340 to what matters. And you know what matters is 00:52:26.340 --> 00:52:28.679 how we treat one another. It's how we treat our 00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:32.739 neighbor. It's how we treat the person on the 00:52:32.739 --> 00:52:36.300 road that cuts us off. Yeah. You have a choice 00:52:36.300 --> 00:52:38.860 to make. And we have these choices every day 00:52:38.860 --> 00:52:41.349 of how we're going to respond and how we're going 00:52:41.349 --> 00:52:44.590 to treat people. I think just being a good Christian 00:52:44.590 --> 00:52:48.409 starts with that, how we treat one another. When 00:52:48.409 --> 00:52:51.309 we can see each other as a child of God, this 00:52:51.309 --> 00:52:54.929 is a person for whom Christ died. She's a person 00:52:54.929 --> 00:52:59.269 for whom Christ died. They may be standing there 00:52:59.269 --> 00:53:01.929 yelling in your face with a picket sign or something, 00:53:02.289 --> 00:53:04.369 throwing a bullhorn or something. That's a really 00:53:04.369 --> 00:53:07.769 good visual. That is a person for whom Christ 00:53:07.769 --> 00:53:12.300 died. And if I can see them that way, what Bill 00:53:12.300 --> 00:53:16.019 Loveless called seeing in 3D, I can get past 00:53:16.019 --> 00:53:18.420 what's being presented here to see that there's 00:53:18.420 --> 00:53:20.860 a human being back there. And when you do that, 00:53:21.380 --> 00:53:23.460 don't be surprised when you accidentally call 00:53:23.460 --> 00:53:25.940 someone honey or darling. That's right. It's 00:53:25.940 --> 00:53:30.179 a term of endearment. All right, brother. That's 00:53:30.179 --> 00:53:32.659 it. We'll be back next week because we get to 00:53:32.659 --> 00:53:43.369 do this. We get to do this This is a chance we 00:53:43.369 --> 00:53:49.610 did not miss This is life We get to do this