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Father, what a joy it is to be before you today.

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It's our honor, our privilege, and we really

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do get to do this. We pray for our listeners

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today that they'll be encouraged, they'll be

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lifted up, perhaps inspired, Lord. That's our

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heart, to put some lift under their wings. We

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bless them even as we do this and have this conversation,

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Lord. And we ask Holy Spirit, you would literally

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guide this conversation today. and give us solutions

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and answers, or at least even greater questions.

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So, we honor you in everything we do in Saturday,

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in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. It's Wednesday, June

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3rd, 2026. We get to do this. This is episode

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number 35. You know you're a real podcaster when

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you're doing a podcast on your vacation. I'm

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in brother. I am all in with what we're doing.

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That is when you are a true podcaster. You watch

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before you know it. OK, we're going to the beach.

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Honey, I got to bring my rig because I got to

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do a podcast. I will be bringing my rig. Are

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you bringing it? Oh, you guys are going to the

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beach, right? I put it all together. Yeah, I've

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got my microphone, my cords. I've got my mini,

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what do you call it? The pod mobile? Yeah, pod

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mobile. I've got that all in one bag. That'll

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fit either in my suitcase or right in there.

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You got the little stand for the mic? I do, yeah.

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Those are perfect for a trip. Yeah, it's a little

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bitty one. How's the vacation been, brother?

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Must be so weird. As a pastor to not be at your

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church and the machine keeps on running. It's

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good odd though. It's odd or different, but it's

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good different. I stay busy because I love what

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I do and I love interacting and engaging with

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people, so I continue to do that online easily.

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I'm reading some great guys on Substack right

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now. I've been encouraging and just studying.

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Annette and I started a study called Rooted.

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Which is, I didn't name our series after, it

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just happens to be called Rooted. And it's a

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fantastic 10 -week discipleship journey. So we're

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sort of screening it to see if this is something

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we want to implement for our church. Sounds like

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work, but it's what we love to do is get in the

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Word and study and read. And so far it's been

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fantastic. People have no idea what the life

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of a pastor is or pastors because you're pastors

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together. They think it's like, Oh man, what

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a gig that is. You show up on Sunday. Okay, you

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got to do two messages. But the work that goes

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on in between is really... Well, we tend to look

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happy most of the time. We're with people. Well,

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there's that. It's the world we're in. And truly

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we are. We love what we do. I've been doing this

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43 years now, 42, 43 years. And I'm just as excited

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about what I do today as I was the day I started.

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It shows, brother. It's joyful. It really does.

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One of my long -term thinking philosophies, if

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you would, has been play the long game. Play

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the long game. Finish strong. We used to say

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in golf, it's not how you drive, it's how you

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arrive. Because sometimes you can whack one out

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in the weeds and then you have a couple of good

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shots and you're back in the game. So you don't

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ever just panic over a bad drive. You just try

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to, okay, all right, it's not how you drive,

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it's how you arrive. It's the same in life. My

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attitude is I want to finish strong. I want to

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run through the tape. I want to be in a sprint

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over the finish line, not crawling or coming

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up short. So many guys that I went to school

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with because I did my undergrad in theology and

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then I did my graduate work in ministry as well

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and what's called Christian education and so

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I did a lot of years of school around church.

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I mean my whole bachelor's and master's degree

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and there's quite honestly very few of those

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guys still in the game. It's a tough game. It's

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such a false equivalency, but it is a bit like

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being a podcaster. Apparently, I am one now.

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They're very similar. It's like people give up.

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It's very hard to... So when you're on vacation,

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and actually, Pastor Brian, he's also, I believe,

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on vacation. Yeah, they did their second week.

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Right. So you have an interesting task of filling...

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the pulpit with somebody. Correct. Because church

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doesn't stop. That's right. So what is the process

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for fillings? I mean, how does that even work?

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It's relational. These are guys, people I know,

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people I trust. I don't just call anybody out

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of the blue and go, hey, you know, and we plan

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this out for months in advance. So we had Krish

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Dunham this last weekend, but that's been planned

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for months when we hosted Reagan. you know, in

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the pulpit. We'd plan that months ahead. So we

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do that way out front. So we know who's going

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to, Tommy is going to be with us. One of these

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weeks. Tommy Hayes. We love Tommy. He compresses

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a thousand pounds of TNT into 30 minutes and

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we get out early and you're like, what just happened?

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And he smiles the whole time. I mean, he's so

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excited to do it. I love this one. So these are

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men I know. These are people I walk with and

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have had, you know, relationship with. I rarely

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will put somebody in my pulpit that I don't know.

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Rare. Victor Marx was one of those. Another great

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example. I didn't know Victor personally, but

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I knew people around him personally. I liked

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what I'd heard. I'd been listening to some podcasts

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with him and read his book. By the time he got

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here, I felt like I knew him. We ended up hitting

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it off like brothers from another mother kind

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of thing. That's a rare thing. We'll be hosting

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Todd out of Nashville. His last name skates me

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off the top of my head, so I don't know him that

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well, but I know about him and I've known around

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him. When I was in Nashville 12 years ago, I

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knew him then, but it wasn't like best friends,

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but I knew who he worked for and who he worked

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with. Big surprise, we've got the Caleb Global

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coming to do a weekend seminar. Big surprise

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is Papa Don Finto is coming. Coming himself?

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He's coming. He wanted to. He said, I want to

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come. I'm going to be there. I'm mad. We're going

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to be out of the country. I'm just sad we're

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not going to be there for that one. He literally

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is one of my heroes in the faith. I mean, he

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discipled Michael W. Smith, Amy Grant. I mean,

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all these people that we love and know on the

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Godcaster, he's been one of the spiritual advisors

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over most of those artists. In one way or another,

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they know Papa Don. So, Chris Dunham, Dean of...

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He's at the Patriot Academy, his actual title

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is Dean of Patriot Academy… Scholars? Scholars?

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I think so, yeah. I mean, that's what they call

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their students, scholars. And he's preached before,

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and he is one of my favorite apologetics guys.

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Is that the term? Apologetic guy. Yeah, he does

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apologetics. He's an apologist. Which is always

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confusing for new Christians. Like, why are you

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apologizing, man? What are you apologizing for?

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There's nothing to be sorry about on here. And

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he came, he did some things, and by the way,

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he's so much one of my favorite guys. I wish

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I could get him on Rogan. I'm afraid that Rogan

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might not be able to keep up with him. It would

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work. And I'm going to suggest it. Wow. Absolutely.

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He is, and he's funny, and he has a great story.

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And he spoke, and it's a two -part series, he

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spoke on Sunday, and it's about Islam. And what

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he was doing, as I've listened to both services,

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is he was kind of waking everybody up in service

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one, and then this coming Sunday, he's going

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to dive deep. This hit me so hard because I have

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been, I have literally been talking about this

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for 20 years. Two things really. One, growing

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up in the Netherlands when I moved there when

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I was seven, it's really odd what people accuse

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me of because really it's Isaac and Ishmael that

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I've grown up with. On one hand, I had kids that

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I played with whose grandmothers had numbers

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tattooed on their arm from concentration camps

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and I learned a lot. A lot, a lot right. More

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than most Americans would ever learn just by

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the fact that so much happened there. But also

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growing up, I played with a lot of Muslim kids.

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But we didn't know them as Muslims. In the 70s,

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they were Indonesians because that was a Dutch

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colony. So the Indonesians had a citizenship,

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actually, right to be in the Netherlands. In

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the 80s, we got a new group of Muslims, but we

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didn't call them Muslims. We called them Turks

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because there was a guest worker program and

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it was specifically open to Turkish people to

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come with their families and work because the

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country was being constructed and we just didn't

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have enough labor. And then later what happened

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is the liberal world government of Europe as

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the European Union start to drop borders and

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create one form of money and all kinds of interesting.

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They tried to become the United States of Europe,

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really, which was not a great idea. They shipped

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in Moroccans. Never said Muslims, they just shipped

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in Moroccans. And they didn't ship them in with

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jobs. No, here's a house that you get and a Dutch

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person doesn't get. Here's money that you get.

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And when the houses were... It sounds like the

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last administration here. We're going to get

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to that, bingo. And when the houses ran out,

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there's a huge shortage of houses, they started

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something called asylum seeker centers. And these

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are like not a detention center, but a camp where

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they would put them in and give them money, but

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no job. And they were on the outskirts of the

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country, kind of in the rural areas until they

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ran out of that. and now they're in everybody's

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backyard. And so now, at this point, we've got

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prayer calls five days a week everywhere. We've

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got the whole—they call it the street picture,

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Stratbelt. The street picture has changed from

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originally people in wooden shoes to kind of

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modern, modern Western people to burkas, literal

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burkas. The part that is unique to me is I went

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back to the Netherlands in 99 and I saw, whoa,

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what just happened here? And there were two guys

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that I knew and met and interacted with who were

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saying, we have to stop the Islamification of

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the Netherlands. And that doesn't mean we need

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to stop people from being Muslims, but the Islamification,

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which is a political issue. One is a guy named

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Pim Fortin. And he was a professor of economics

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and history and openly gay, larger -than -life

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guy. And he's like, I'm running for political

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office. He won posthumously. And I say posthumously

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because the establishment hated him so much that

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he was assassinated two weeks before the election

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right outside the radio station where I worked,

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killed not by a Muslim. by a radical leftist

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member of the animal party or something like

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that. And his party won the election. Of course,

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that fell apart because their leader was gone.

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But I remember distinctly seeing the whole country

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from Amsterdam to The Hague, his funeral procession

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went, this is like 40 miles. The whole highway

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was filled with people, slow claps, and you never

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heard anything about Islamification again. The

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message was, don't say anything, we're going

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to kill you, except for one guy. Theo van Gogh,

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direct descendant of the painter. I knew him

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because he was in television. He was a columnist.

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He wrote. He was a huge leftist until he met

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Ayaan Hirsi Ali. You've probably heard of her.

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She was a politician in the Netherlands. She's

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from Somalia. And she said, hey, what's going

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on here in Holland is no good. And the female

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genital mutilation, that was one of her big...

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one of her big talking points, but they teamed

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up together and made a movie. He was also a filmmaker.

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And he got killed on his bike going shopping

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in Amsterdam by a radicalized Islamist with an

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AK -47, which you can't even get guns anywhere

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in Holland. And just to accentuate the point,

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stuck a knife in his chest with a note on it

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of who would be next. Wow. And so I knew these

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people. And so I've seen firsthand what happens

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if you let the political Islamification take

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over your country. And I think, yeah, there's

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something going on with the construction. We'll

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just pretend we're not hearing it. OK. And so

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Krish was talking about this. And we've talked

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on the show a lot about what people are getting

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really spun up and fearful of. And so I really

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wanted to sharpen iron with him today. because

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he was coming at it from such a knowledgeable

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background of the Quran and And and you're really

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Indian culture as well a lot of people don't

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know that the most Muslims in the world live

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it Here's here's the order of countries Indonesia

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India Pakistan Bangladesh It's a long time before

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you hit Iraq Iran and Somalia and all those others

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But he's right. He's right that we cannot let

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this is that that? Is that outside? Yeah, it

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is okay. We'll just we'll just ignore. We're

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under construction. We have been for sorry about

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that We're gonna five years stop talking about

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it people won't hear it in a minute And he's

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so right about what he was saying he did two

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services I attended the first when I heard the

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second one like oh, man You're really you're

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really firing on all single cylinders, but I

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needed to talk to him and sharpen some ire about

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what I call bazookas I Said we have these bazookas

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that we create online And the problem with the

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bazooka online is anybody can fire it. So you

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may build something you want to fire. For example,

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if you say, we're funding our own demise with

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$4 billion given to Muslim nonprofits, which

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is, I think, a number that has been created.

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It's got legs somewhere. It got a lot of legs.

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It grew. It grew. What happens is if you fire

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this, so the bazooka is meant to say, we got

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to stop funding Muslim nonprofits. But what happens

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is you fire that bazooka, and the first thing

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my wife, Tina, said is, we got to get Abbott

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out. I'm like, hold on, let's slow down for a

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second. And why not, right? It makes sense that

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you say, wait a minute, if Abbott is doing this,

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then we've got to get another governor. So you

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have to be very careful. The other thing is how

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many mosques are in the Dallas Metro, Fort Worth

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area. There's a number that's out there 245 in

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the last five years and there's a map that pops

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up on Facebook and all this stuff happens and

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Krish actually got to be true. It's got to be

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true It's actually only one has been built in

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the last two years. One has been expanded There

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are a few other small ones, but most of these

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mosques were built in 79 in the 80s The most

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recent big one was built in 2018 and I agree

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that we should not have this epic center or the

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Meadow as it's called. It is now, yeah. But when

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you fire bazookas, what good American Christian

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people do is they go put up signs and hammer

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pieces of pork to it. This is not the way we're

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going to stop this. No, you stop that by getting

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on the zoning committee, by being on your city

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council, by being... part of the school board.

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This is how we do it, which has been such a driver

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of Bridge Church. And look what we got. We got

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our Mayor Briley. So I really wanted to talk

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to him about the bazookas. And man, it was so

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wonderful because he said, yeah, you know, you're

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right. I agree. I got to temper that a little

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bit because I'm just firing off stuff. And what

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happens is the message gets lost. And so it was

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so wonderful. to sit here, because man, this

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guy is knowledgeable. He is beyond, beyond sharp.

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There are real dangers. Muslim Brotherhood, which

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was started in the 50s by British intelligence,

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funny enough, because they hated Egyptian President

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Nasser because he was taking over the Suez Canal.

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This is all history, which were not taught in

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America ever, but they have been. truly the funding,

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the basis of all terrorism, all Islamic terrorism

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around the world. You might remember President

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Obama came into office. You remember the first

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thing he did in his first term? No, not offhand.

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He went to Egypt on an apology tour and apologized

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to the Muslim Brotherhood for being racist. I'm

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paraphrasing a lot there. That was the first

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thing he did. So one other bazooka that we fire

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is, hey man, they are procreating like rabbits.

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Everyone of them has got four wives. That means

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they're going to have four kids at 16 before

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you know it. So this is factually didn't happen

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in Holland, didn't happen in the UK, didn't happen

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in Sweden. Yes, no doubt. It looked like 2 .6

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kids from what I read. It's 2 .6 versus 1 .5.

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And that is a problem. Even 1 .5 will be dead

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in a hundred years. Nobody left. We need to make

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more babies for sure. But immigration and the

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biggest pop in the Dallas -Fort Worth metro area

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of Muslim immigrants by about a hundred thousand

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extra ones was during the 2000 -2024 Biden administration.

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This is what Minneapolis is. Minneapolis is filled

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with Somalians. Somalians came in because there

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was a temporary protected status because of the

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state of their country. When you hear President

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Trump saying, go back to your country, it's horrible.

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The only business they got there is killing people.

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That's why they were brought in. They're brought

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into a particular area. to work for particular

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companies who need cheap labor. But then you,

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in essence, let them overrun an area. Same thing

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happened with Haitians. Remember we had there

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eating the dogs? Those Haitians were brought

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there for the factories. So this is a political

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issue that we need to solve spiritually. There

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you go. Thank you. And that is really what was

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on my heart. And Krish completely agrees. I gotta

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tell you, I was a little anxious about saying

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to him, hey man, I think you need to tone some

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things down because I'm out there on a different

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battlefield than you are and I'm seeing what

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the result is. And if what we're saying is making

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people hammer pieces of pork to signs outside

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of a mosque, we're not really winning the war.

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That's not how we're gonna do it. There's a lady,

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Don't take it from Adam, please. There's a lady,

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Susan Kokinda. She's part of Promethean Action.

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I think I've played a clip of hers before on

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our show. She lives right outside of Dearborn,

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Michigan. And she's a little older than we are.

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She's, I think, 68, 69. I remember that clip.

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Have you seen this clip? No, I don't know. I

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remember one you played. Oh, on our show? Yeah,

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yeah. That's what I'm saying. This is a new one.

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I don't know this one. OK. And she's been with

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the Lyndon LaRouche organization when it still

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existed. I think she actually had a falling out

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with them. But she has been a political strategist

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and in the game since the 70s, so longer than

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I've been doing it. And she and her partner,

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Barbara, I forget her name, and when I say partner,

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business partner. Yeah, I know you got to qualify

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that these days. They do three 15 minute reports

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every single week on YouTube. So I can't really

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call it a podcast, but and she says something

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the other day, which mirrored exactly what I

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feel is happening. Remember Dearborn. So if you

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talk about Dearborn, it's lost the Muslim. Dearborn,

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by the way, has been a big attractor for Arab

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Americans since the 70s. I mean, this is You

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know, we have places where Indians live. We have

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places where Chinese live. We have places where

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Hasidic Jews live. I mean, this is America. You

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know, look at Fredericksburg. What are we? You

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know, how many black people do we have here?

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We're just not attracting many of them. Luckily,

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we're seeing more and more. You know, we are

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we are diversifying a bit in freight. So listen

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to what she has to say about Dearborn, Michigan.

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Clearly, people look at what is happening in

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Europe from the standpoint of the complete open

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borders. and flooding these societies with Muslim

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immigrants, many of whom are being deliberately

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deployed to carry out a cultural warfare against

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the civilizations of these European nations.

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That is a world economic forum globalist deployment.

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You see a certain reflection of that here in

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Minnesota with the Somali population. and the

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way that it has essentially been weaponized.

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In other words, certain layers who are being

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weaponized by the global elite. But that is not

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a Muslim question. That is the global elite using

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this to try and destroy cultures, to create terrorist

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capabilities, something that we've documented.

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So people have that legitimate concern, and it's

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especially acute when you look at the European

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countries. And it would have been especially

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acute if we hadn't got Donald Trump back in and

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we've now closed our borders to that. Then there

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is the question of God fearing people from Muslim

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countries who want to emigrate to the United

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States and have emigrated to the United States

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because they want a better life. And they are

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not trying to change our culture. And I'm living

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like seven miles away from Dearborn. Newsflash

00:23:03.940 --> 00:23:07.200
people, there is no Sharia law in Dearborn, okay?

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This is one of the rabbit holes that everybody

00:23:09.740 --> 00:23:12.440
wants to be driven down. Now, are there problems

00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:15.200
in Dearborn? Yeah, it's because you have a layer

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of the Muslim and Arab American population, which

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is bat shit crazy liberals. And that's their

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problem. And then you have many other people,

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many of whom voted for Donald Trump and in fact

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delivered the victory for Trump in Michigan because

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of the vote. from the Muslim community in Wayne

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County here was one of the absolutely critical

00:23:36.619 --> 00:23:40.279
margins for President Trump winning. I can't

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speak for what is going on in other states, but

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given the fact that we have the largest Muslim

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Arab -American population in the Western hemisphere,

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about six miles away from me, you know, the majority

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of people in Dearborn are not trying to Islamify

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the United States. They are part of our society

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and our culture, and they practice their religion.

00:24:01.309 --> 00:24:03.710
shoulder to shoulder with Jews and Christians.

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This is a psi war operation. It's taking a legitimate

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danger that the global elites themselves are

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deploying these populations and especially radicalized

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and criminal populations for their purposes.

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And then trying to do one of these broad brush,

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everywhere you have a mosque, you have Sharia

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law. Again, I've got news for you. It's not true.

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So this is what we're really up against, a psi

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war, psi op. And I love how she describes what's

00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:41.759
happening in Dearborn. I got a lot of people

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telling me in Dearborn like, well, yeah, it's

00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:47.380
been this way forever. But yes, Muslim Brotherhood

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Council on American -Islamic Relations and its

00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:54.480
intent is to divide and conquer. Divide and conquer

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the population and then you can take them over.

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Right back to Sal Alinsky's. rules for radicals

00:25:00.900 --> 00:25:04.940
exactly spot on and the more we get all spun

00:25:04.940 --> 00:25:08.440
up and mad and post stuff online the more we're

00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:11.480
playing right into their hands bingo right into

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their hands and bingo was his name and and that's

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what i love about where Chris is taking this

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and man i i mean I think he has like a two or

00:25:21.589 --> 00:25:23.609
three day seminar. We should probably think about

00:25:23.609 --> 00:25:25.710
having him do that here at the church. Well,

00:25:25.769 --> 00:25:27.529
this would be a good feeder into that. Yeah,

00:25:27.650 --> 00:25:30.269
we need a lot more knowledge about it. We do.

00:25:30.430 --> 00:25:36.789
Because it's true. Quran and Islam, it's not

00:25:36.789 --> 00:25:41.180
compatible with our Western values. But that

00:25:41.180 --> 00:25:43.619
doesn't mean that every brown person is out here

00:25:43.619 --> 00:25:46.140
to kill us. Exactly. And that's also not who

00:25:46.140 --> 00:25:48.960
we are as Americans and not who we are as Christians

00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:50.880
and believers. Thank you for saying that because

00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:52.640
let's start with Christians and then we can talk

00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:58.299
about Americans. But I did some research. I did

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a little deep dive. I've been really... Why does

00:26:01.460 --> 00:26:06.160
that not surprise me, my brother? Well, I...

00:26:06.269 --> 00:26:09.230
I posed the question, and of course I used AI

00:26:09.230 --> 00:26:14.309
for this. I've got Logos, and then I've got a

00:26:14.309 --> 00:26:17.670
sermon AI, which is another Bible study program

00:26:17.670 --> 00:26:20.930
that's all internal unless you tell it to go

00:26:20.930 --> 00:26:23.089
external. It's a robot. It works. It's a robot.

00:26:23.130 --> 00:26:26.109
Actually, it's good though. I asked the question,

00:26:26.349 --> 00:26:29.430
what are the top... Actually, I'm going to look

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it up. What are the top... biblical virtues that

00:26:35.299 --> 00:26:39.680
are the most forgotten or overlooked. And I felt

00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:42.220
like I was prompted to do this because a young

00:26:42.220 --> 00:26:45.440
man who's a church planter reached out to me

00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:48.500
and said, you know, value your experience and

00:26:48.500 --> 00:26:51.559
your story and listen to some of your sermons.

00:26:52.140 --> 00:26:55.859
And he said, what would you tell a young new

00:26:55.859 --> 00:26:58.039
pastor starting out, someone starting in ministry,

00:26:58.140 --> 00:27:01.079
what's the one thing? I'm like, one thing? No,

00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:05.259
sorry. Can't do that. And so he got me thinking

00:27:05.259 --> 00:27:08.660
and I was going to see if I had this locked in

00:27:08.660 --> 00:27:16.680
on here. Here it is. By the way, there's nothing

00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:20.440
I love more in a podcast than silence. I really

00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:22.960
mean that. It's a beautiful thing. Dead air.

00:27:23.140 --> 00:27:25.200
You never have dead air anymore. Everyone has

00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:27.400
to fill it up all the time. Boy, no kidding.

00:27:31.819 --> 00:27:35.339
We're going for the phone. I have it here. The

00:27:35.339 --> 00:27:38.500
reason I wanted to look this up is because I've

00:27:38.500 --> 00:27:44.259
been struggling with a lot of the bravado I see

00:27:44.259 --> 00:27:47.059
in the Christian world, whether it's pastors

00:27:47.059 --> 00:27:50.630
showing themselves at the gym pumping iron, I'm

00:27:50.630 --> 00:27:55.029
all about temple care, mind, body, spirit, but

00:27:55.029 --> 00:28:01.750
we don't need to see you flex to this bravado,

00:28:01.809 --> 00:28:05.920
proud, loud, railing against... said, a rage

00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:07.920
against the machine, they're raging against Islam,

00:28:08.099 --> 00:28:11.319
they're raging against Mormons, they're raging

00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:14.579
against whoever they are, not them. And I'm going,

00:28:14.700 --> 00:28:19.339
this is not the Jesus way. And it's been really

00:28:19.339 --> 00:28:24.740
just on my heart. And so I did a little query

00:28:24.740 --> 00:28:28.220
this morning on... I got to find out which one

00:28:28.220 --> 00:28:33.059
I used. I've got... Here it is. And it's called

00:28:33.059 --> 00:28:36.039
underrated. biblical virtues, and here's the

00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:40.759
top five that are underappreciated in our culture,

00:28:40.859 --> 00:28:44.500
underrated. Humility is number one. This comes

00:28:44.500 --> 00:28:46.740
back to your daily grind from today. Yeah, I

00:28:46.740 --> 00:28:49.259
can see where that got informed. And I was thinking,

00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:51.380
because I had written down off the top of my

00:28:51.380 --> 00:28:53.519
head before I even looked this up, when that

00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.019
young man asked me the question, he didn't ask

00:28:56.019 --> 00:28:58.500
me in real time, so I get to formulate my answer

00:28:58.500 --> 00:29:01.059
a little bit. And I grabbed my little pad here

00:29:01.059 --> 00:29:04.650
and I wrote down, Humility, the greatest and

00:29:04.650 --> 00:29:07.410
least appreciated virtue. I wrote that down in

00:29:07.410 --> 00:29:10.049
real time after I was thinking about his question.

00:29:10.190 --> 00:29:12.869
I wrote down some other things, but humility

00:29:12.869 --> 00:29:16.190
is number one. Number two is meekness. Number

00:29:16.190 --> 00:29:21.170
three, patience. Number four, contentment. Number

00:29:21.170 --> 00:29:28.190
five, forgiveness. Think about how Christ has

00:29:28.190 --> 00:29:32.279
tried to teach us to respond to our enemies.

00:29:32.900 --> 00:29:36.259
Bless those who curse you. Pray for those who

00:29:36.259 --> 00:29:39.380
persecute you. If they compel you to go one mile,

00:29:39.500 --> 00:29:43.779
go two. I mean, we have so jacked this around,

00:29:44.700 --> 00:29:47.640
and it's really been bothering me lately because

00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:50.579
I have a lot of dear friends that are beating

00:29:50.579 --> 00:29:53.220
a lot of drums right now. And listen, I'm all

00:29:53.220 --> 00:29:57.170
about speaking up. our constitution has given

00:29:57.170 --> 00:29:59.869
us the right and privilege to push back. And

00:29:59.869 --> 00:30:02.329
so I think we should do that, but I think we

00:30:02.329 --> 00:30:04.950
should do it always. And Chris actually read

00:30:04.950 --> 00:30:08.650
this scripture respectfully, respectfully with

00:30:08.650 --> 00:30:15.210
respect, with honor, not this torches and pitchforks

00:30:15.210 --> 00:30:17.690
mentality, hair on fire as you use it, my new

00:30:17.690 --> 00:30:21.289
favorite term, hair on fire. And so as I was

00:30:21.289 --> 00:30:24.809
reading, thinking about addressing the issues

00:30:24.809 --> 00:30:28.279
that are at hand, it's like, how do we address

00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:32.019
this as not just a Bible -believing Christian,

00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:36.440
but how do we believe it as one who says, I am

00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:40.160
intentionally conforming in my life to Christ?

00:30:41.099 --> 00:30:45.559
What would Jesus do? This is interesting because

00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:47.400
as Chris and I were talking this morning, we

00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:51.519
had this meeting. He says, why is it, he posed

00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:55.589
the question, why is it that and I think some

00:30:55.589 --> 00:30:58.710
of this is true and some of it is rehashed social

00:30:58.710 --> 00:31:03.349
media images, that Muslims can stop traffic around

00:31:03.349 --> 00:31:05.009
Times Square, you can't even drive near Times

00:31:05.009 --> 00:31:08.250
Square, but Times Square to do prayer five times

00:31:08.250 --> 00:31:11.849
a day, but we're afraid to go out and sing carols

00:31:11.849 --> 00:31:14.869
and stop traffic because we're praising our God,

00:31:15.369 --> 00:31:23.089
our Jesus. And part of his message is, We're

00:31:23.089 --> 00:31:26.109
not even showing our brand let alone. Do we even

00:31:26.109 --> 00:31:29.769
know what it is? I would say if that's true,

00:31:29.990 --> 00:31:34.650
and I'm saying if because I know a lot of a lot

00:31:34.650 --> 00:31:38.049
of believers who are bold with their faith I

00:31:38.049 --> 00:31:41.509
Think we can make these broad sweeping generalizations

00:31:41.509 --> 00:31:45.269
Where one size fits all you know I hear it all

00:31:45.269 --> 00:31:47.430
the time well pastors just aren't speaking up

00:31:47.430 --> 00:31:50.299
about culture, and I'm going What am I, chopped

00:31:50.299 --> 00:31:53.380
liver over here? I've done it for the last number

00:31:53.380 --> 00:31:57.500
of years and will continue. We just got our mayor

00:31:57.500 --> 00:32:00.119
elected and we will get more involved and connected.

00:32:00.420 --> 00:32:02.059
And there'll be some appointments coming with

00:32:02.059 --> 00:32:04.900
that election from our church. So, no, we're

00:32:04.900 --> 00:32:08.240
in the game. But when I hear these broad generalizations,

00:32:08.460 --> 00:32:11.240
it really, I have to take a step back and go,

00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:12.960
okay, let me think through what they're trying

00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:17.000
to say. Not what they just said. What's the message

00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:19.119
behind what they just said? Because there's more

00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:23.359
to it. You got to see it in 3D. And so I'm concerned

00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:27.420
about my brothers, my sisters, getting on social

00:32:27.420 --> 00:32:30.240
media, raging against the machine, whatever the

00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.819
machine of the day is, because it's not always

00:32:32.819 --> 00:32:40.099
the same. It changes. And my ask for believers

00:32:40.099 --> 00:32:45.670
is to is to understand the sky is not falling.

00:32:47.089 --> 00:32:51.849
Jesus, unlike Elvis, it says Elvis has left the

00:32:51.849 --> 00:32:55.289
building. Jesus has not left the building. And

00:32:55.289 --> 00:32:58.990
we as Christians need to get our faith back on

00:32:58.990 --> 00:33:04.509
track. If we're jumping on our phones in the

00:33:04.509 --> 00:33:06.410
morning and our screens and we're getting our

00:33:06.410 --> 00:33:10.130
news before we're getting in the scripture, We

00:33:10.130 --> 00:33:12.809
are already off -center. We're already fighting

00:33:12.809 --> 00:33:18.789
an unfair fight. And so, my appeal, my cry, my

00:33:18.789 --> 00:33:24.009
exhortation, my ask is, could we get back to

00:33:24.009 --> 00:33:27.230
the scripture and get grounded in God's Word

00:33:27.230 --> 00:33:31.049
before we get versed in all these other fields?

00:33:31.950 --> 00:33:34.950
I'm okay with going outside my house. I'm okay

00:33:34.950 --> 00:33:37.089
with stepping into another ballpark and playing

00:33:37.089 --> 00:33:38.789
the game. You know what I mean? Somebody say,

00:33:38.890 --> 00:33:40.710
well, this is our ball field. No, no, it's all

00:33:40.710 --> 00:33:44.250
of ours. It's the grounds level. But I want to

00:33:44.250 --> 00:33:47.990
make sure that I am prayed up, that I'm worded

00:33:47.990 --> 00:33:51.190
up, that I've been walking with Jesus, not just

00:33:51.190 --> 00:33:54.269
from a distance, but up close, so that when I

00:33:54.269 --> 00:33:58.569
do speak into culture or into a situation, I'm

00:33:58.569 --> 00:34:02.460
doing it mindfully, not mindlessly. Scripture

00:34:02.460 --> 00:34:05.500
says we have the mind of Christ. We need to tap

00:34:05.500 --> 00:34:09.139
into that and then respond accordingly, not react,

00:34:09.260 --> 00:34:11.300
but respond. And what I'm seeing from a lot of

00:34:11.300 --> 00:34:14.099
my brothers and sisters, especially on social

00:34:14.099 --> 00:34:17.360
media and platforms, podcasting, is reaction,

00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:19.639
reaction, reaction, reaction. And then they go

00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.239
back and either clean up the mess or they don't,

00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.059
which is even worse, to come back and say, I

00:34:25.059 --> 00:34:28.900
miss that. I was wrong. Swing and a miss. I told

00:34:28.900 --> 00:34:31.239
you a story one time, a couple came to me in

00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:32.960
church after a Wednesday night, it was about

00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:39.360
six years ago, and I'd been talking about, I

00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:41.679
was thinking dispensationalism, but I was saying

00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:45.840
cessationalism. Two very different things. But

00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:48.000
I didn't realize it. And so I just got the terms

00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:50.280
mixed up and they came to me very kind of upset,

00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:53.900
not mad, but just, you know, that's not right.

00:34:56.339 --> 00:34:59.400
We're dispensationalists. You're talking about,

00:34:59.460 --> 00:35:01.380
and I said, what do you mean? And when we talked

00:35:01.380 --> 00:35:03.179
about it, and they brought me an article, and

00:35:03.179 --> 00:35:05.119
I sat down, I read it, and I went, oh my gosh,

00:35:05.340 --> 00:35:09.599
I totally flipped that. And I got up the next

00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:12.119
Wednesday night, and I apologized and repented

00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:14.739
to the church. and said, and I did it with a

00:35:14.739 --> 00:35:17.139
smile. I messed up. I made a mistake. I know,

00:35:17.300 --> 00:35:20.019
shock and awe, everybody. Human. But I'm a human,

00:35:20.179 --> 00:35:22.079
and I made a mistake, and I want to apologize

00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:23.920
for that. I want to clarify, so I kind of went

00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:26.780
back into it and retaught it accurately. And

00:35:26.780 --> 00:35:28.699
it was an honest mistake. It wasn't a big deal.

00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:31.320
But I remember after that service, people coming

00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:34.739
to me and thanking me for, they said, I've never

00:35:34.739 --> 00:35:37.019
heard a pastor say he was sorry for something

00:35:37.019 --> 00:35:39.559
he said in a pulpit. Really? And I'm like, what?

00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:43.639
Well, get ready because there'll be more. You

00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:46.280
speak several hundred thousand words every month.

00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:48.900
You're going to have some misses. Oh, wait until

00:35:48.900 --> 00:35:52.920
you get going as a podcaster, brother. Oh, I'm

00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.559
just quite dribbling my chances to stick my foot

00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:57.760
in my mouth. But you know what? We got to be

00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:00.320
willing to go, you know what? I was wrong. I

00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:02.739
missed that. I didn't have the right information.

00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:07.500
Why can't we just... Be good people and good

00:36:07.500 --> 00:36:09.639
Christians and back up and say I'm so sorry.

00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:13.360
I miss that You talked about praying up, you

00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:15.480
know, and so I and I shared some of this list

00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:18.059
with you the other day I just have a list of

00:36:18.059 --> 00:36:21.000
when I when I think of oh, oh, wow Here's the

00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:23.059
fear. This is all the things that are happening

00:36:23.059 --> 00:36:26.480
as a new Christian I have such a benefit because

00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.420
these things are so fresh on my heart. This is

00:36:28.420 --> 00:36:32.659
part of the reason why I took it from a conspiracy

00:36:32.940 --> 00:36:38.519
theory to conspiracy therapy. Timothy 1 .7, right

00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:41.199
off the top, for God has not given us a spirit

00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:44.820
of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound

00:36:44.820 --> 00:36:47.679
mind. Like that was a big one for me when I was

00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:49.679
just starting to… So let me define sound mind.

00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:52.480
Please. It literally means the ability to think

00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:55.840
well. Perfect. It's that simple. Chronicles 32

00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:00.039
.7. This kind of goes back to the actual Muslim

00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:03.539
fear thing. Be strong and courageous. Do not

00:37:03.539 --> 00:37:06.260
be afraid or discouraged because the King of

00:37:06.260 --> 00:37:09.719
Assyria and the vast army with him. For there

00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:13.739
is a greater power with us than with him. With

00:37:13.739 --> 00:37:16.800
him is only the arm of flesh, but with us is

00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:19.440
the Lord our God to help us and to fight our

00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:23.260
battles. It's how this country was born, man.

00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:26.119
We prayed to God and this little ragtag group

00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:29.559
of guys defeated the British. This is true. Mind

00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:33.659
-bending, miraculous. Ephesians 6 .12, this is

00:37:33.659 --> 00:37:35.980
the one that, for me, you know this, this is

00:37:35.980 --> 00:37:39.199
one of my, I'm still looking to get something

00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:41.320
tattooed for this. I don't know how to do it

00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:44.769
yet. for our struggle is not against flesh and

00:37:44.769 --> 00:37:46.909
blood, this is the truth, but against the rulers,

00:37:47.050 --> 00:37:49.250
against the authorities, against the powers of

00:37:49.250 --> 00:37:53.510
this dark world and principalities, etc. And

00:37:53.510 --> 00:37:56.409
then one that I'm always, I always have this

00:37:56.409 --> 00:37:58.710
kind of, when I talk about Eddie Murphy, who

00:37:58.710 --> 00:38:01.329
doesn't vote, he says, God's got this, not that

00:38:01.329 --> 00:38:04.469
I'm saying he shouldn't vote, but Daniel 2 .21,

00:38:04.769 --> 00:38:08.530
he removes kings and he raises up kings. And,

00:38:08.670 --> 00:38:13.949
you know, so when I really, When I really just

00:38:13.949 --> 00:38:16.650
want to pray up, I think of these scriptures.

00:38:16.889 --> 00:38:19.289
I'm like, what am I worried about? It doesn't

00:38:19.289 --> 00:38:21.969
mean I don't have to take action. It doesn't

00:38:21.969 --> 00:38:25.929
mean we don't have things to do. But even when

00:38:25.929 --> 00:38:33.630
the disciples wanted to replace Judas, they prayed

00:38:33.630 --> 00:38:36.929
and then they cast lots. The way I read that

00:38:36.929 --> 00:38:39.849
is, okay, Lord, I'm praying and now I'm going

00:38:39.849 --> 00:38:44.150
to vote. And you've always said, like, pray over

00:38:44.150 --> 00:38:46.210
who you're going to vote for. Don't just vote

00:38:46.210 --> 00:38:48.929
because of a letter in front of their name or

00:38:48.929 --> 00:38:52.769
whatever. Vote, pray about it. And this has changed

00:38:52.769 --> 00:38:55.329
my life so much. I probably would have been spun

00:38:55.329 --> 00:39:00.030
up out there slinging pork. So let me give another

00:39:00.030 --> 00:39:02.670
scripture. It's right in line here, and you'll

00:39:02.670 --> 00:39:05.010
recognize this immediately. 2 Corinthians 10

00:39:05.010 --> 00:39:08.449
.3, for though we walk in the flesh, we do not

00:39:08.449 --> 00:39:11.409
war according to the flesh. I mean, we don't

00:39:11.409 --> 00:39:15.170
have to take another step. Just do that. Because

00:39:15.170 --> 00:39:17.269
that is what we're talking about. You've heard

00:39:17.269 --> 00:39:20.690
me for the last few years stand and say, we do

00:39:20.690 --> 00:39:23.190
not have a political problem in America. We have

00:39:23.190 --> 00:39:25.730
a spiritual problem. And I will continue to beat

00:39:25.730 --> 00:39:29.110
that drum because it's true. And when I see my

00:39:29.110 --> 00:39:33.130
brothers and sisters get so spun up that they're

00:39:33.130 --> 00:39:35.650
no longer tapping into the mind of Christ. They're

00:39:35.650 --> 00:39:38.610
no longer thinking well in that spirit they've

00:39:38.610 --> 00:39:41.500
been given. sound mind. They're not operating

00:39:41.500 --> 00:39:44.000
in a sound mind. And it's just like kings and

00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:46.400
rulers, you know, we're told in Romans that we're

00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:49.860
to submit to them. But it says, because they

00:39:49.860 --> 00:39:52.940
have your good in mind, it's because they, and

00:39:52.940 --> 00:39:55.739
they will reward the good and punish the bad.

00:39:56.239 --> 00:39:58.619
But what that doesn't say, but it is saying,

00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:01.139
is that if those rulers are wrong, they need

00:40:01.139 --> 00:40:05.300
to be deposed. And that is a biblical precedent.

00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:07.519
And God will turn them into a donkey and make

00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:11.420
them eat grass out on the hillside. Didn't end

00:40:11.420 --> 00:40:15.500
well. So that's the thing is at what level, there's

00:40:15.500 --> 00:40:17.400
always going to be a tension. In fact, when I

00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:19.300
was writing this young man, I haven't given it

00:40:19.300 --> 00:40:21.179
to him yet. One of the things is you have to

00:40:21.179 --> 00:40:25.000
learn to embrace tension because we're talking

00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:28.199
about tension here. At what point do you stand

00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:31.480
and fight? Do you stand and stand? Do you, when

00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:34.380
you push back, when you show up, when you protest,

00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:36.559
the things that we're allowed to do, peaceful

00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:38.739
protest, of course, not seeing a lot of those

00:40:38.739 --> 00:40:43.239
right now. And I saw Senator Mullen cracking

00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:47.340
down on that before the Senate hearing. It's

00:40:47.340 --> 00:40:51.079
pretty interesting. But tension, embrace it.

00:40:53.219 --> 00:40:56.380
be afraid of it if it goes away. I had a professor,

00:40:56.559 --> 00:40:59.260
Dr. Wallace Roark, philosophy professor, godly

00:40:59.260 --> 00:41:01.760
man, called me into his office one day, scared

00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:04.260
the bejeebies out of me. He was very intimidating

00:41:04.260 --> 00:41:07.960
because he was so smart. We all kind of revered

00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:10.340
him, you know, and he said, Mr. Perutt, could

00:41:10.340 --> 00:41:12.219
you come into my office, please? And I'm like,

00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:14.820
oh, what did I do? You know, I'm going down the

00:41:14.820 --> 00:41:17.559
list. I think I'm okay. And I go in there, I

00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:19.719
sit down. I mean, I feel, he's behind this big

00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:22.960
desk and his room looks like an F5 tornado just

00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:24.460
went through there. That's how you know he's

00:41:24.460 --> 00:41:28.380
smart. There's books and papers and shelves and

00:41:28.380 --> 00:41:31.239
it's, it is chaos. It wasn't to him, but it was

00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:34.099
to me. I sat down. He says, I need to ask you

00:41:34.099 --> 00:41:35.940
a question, Mr. Pruitt. And I said, okay. He

00:41:35.940 --> 00:41:41.039
goes, do you have a knot in your stomach? I never

00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:44.500
would have expected that. I said, yes, I do.

00:41:45.739 --> 00:41:49.909
He said, be afraid if it ever goes away. Wow.

00:41:50.489 --> 00:41:52.869
What he was doing was following up on a challenge

00:41:52.869 --> 00:41:55.869
I issued in a class, one of his philosophy classes,

00:41:56.070 --> 00:41:59.829
where we were talking about, it came down to,

00:41:59.829 --> 00:42:01.949
he didn't identify it, but it was the tension

00:42:01.949 --> 00:42:05.949
that we live in as believers who believe Scripture

00:42:05.949 --> 00:42:08.969
and stand in the world in which we have to navigate.

00:42:09.550 --> 00:42:12.289
There will always be tension in that. And he

00:42:12.289 --> 00:42:14.230
said, be afraid if it goes away. If it goes away,

00:42:14.289 --> 00:42:17.309
that's so good. I was like, whoa. Yeah. I walked

00:42:17.309 --> 00:42:19.070
out, wrote that down. What's your list again?

00:42:19.130 --> 00:42:20.809
You had five. You can go through that again because

00:42:20.809 --> 00:42:23.289
I really like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was

00:42:23.289 --> 00:42:26.110
a very good. I love the meekness one because

00:42:26.110 --> 00:42:27.750
I immediately I think because the meek shall

00:42:27.750 --> 00:42:31.010
inherit the earth. And there's nothing weak about

00:42:31.010 --> 00:42:35.269
me. Meek is not weak. Meek is literally power

00:42:35.269 --> 00:42:39.090
under control. It's like having a car that's

00:42:39.090 --> 00:42:41.329
fast, but it doesn't show but it doesn't show

00:42:41.329 --> 00:42:43.829
it You don't have to you don't have to you've

00:42:43.829 --> 00:42:45.449
got it, but that doesn't mean you're using you

00:42:45.449 --> 00:42:48.329
know I'm saying right and meekness is that strength

00:42:48.329 --> 00:42:50.429
under control. That's what it literally means

00:42:50.429 --> 00:42:53.170
You know the Greek word for it. I don't know

00:42:53.170 --> 00:42:54.869
okay top of my head, but I believe because you

00:42:54.869 --> 00:42:58.489
know man We so we know so little we don't learn

00:42:58.489 --> 00:43:00.849
anything anymore, but I love that. I'm gonna

00:43:00.849 --> 00:43:03.750
have to look that up meek Does not mean weak

00:43:03.750 --> 00:43:07.369
it does not very good So humility was the first,

00:43:07.690 --> 00:43:12.349
meekness the second, patience. I love that King

00:43:12.349 --> 00:43:16.750
James really did it right when they identified

00:43:16.750 --> 00:43:19.909
the word patience as long -suffering, because

00:43:19.909 --> 00:43:24.309
patience means to suffer long. Wow. That's what

00:43:24.309 --> 00:43:26.469
it literally means. The scripture talks about

00:43:26.469 --> 00:43:29.429
God is patient with us. He's suffering long time.

00:43:29.429 --> 00:43:31.949
He's suffering long with us. Isn't that beautiful?

00:43:32.570 --> 00:43:36.000
Number four is contentment. Break that one down.

00:43:36.260 --> 00:43:39.239
Oh, contentment simply means being satisfied

00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:44.079
with what you have. Yes. Not this living with

00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:46.760
this striving, this consumer mentality. More,

00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:48.380
more, more, more. More me, me, me. More clicks,

00:43:48.539 --> 00:43:50.980
more likes. More everything. More followers.

00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:55.760
More influence. Yes. No, contentment is, and

00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:57.800
these all work together. You can see how they're

00:43:57.800 --> 00:43:59.820
like fingers on a hand, right? They all work

00:43:59.820 --> 00:44:02.760
together. I think it was Paul who said, You know,

00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:05.059
I've been, I've had a lot, I've had little, I've

00:44:05.059 --> 00:44:08.500
always been, and by the way, that's me. I've

00:44:08.500 --> 00:44:10.980
had millions, I've had nothing, and I'm kind

00:44:10.980 --> 00:44:17.159
of okay, but I am okay. I am okay. I don't care.

00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:19.480
I'm good. Okay, so Annette and I, we've said

00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:21.320
the same thing. We may not have had millions,

00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:23.920
but we were fine. We've done well, we've not

00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:26.659
done well. And here's the deal. We never lost

00:44:26.659 --> 00:44:28.840
our joy through the journey. Amen. That's right.

00:44:28.860 --> 00:44:31.679
We never got bitter. We never, started to look

00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:33.500
at other people and go, well, why do they have

00:44:33.500 --> 00:44:36.000
something and why don't? Why am I suffering?

00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:37.559
Well, that's the covetousness, of course. It

00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:41.380
is. So this idea of contentment, Paul says this,

00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:47.679
godliness with contentment is great gain. Godliness

00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:50.679
with contentment is great gain. And that was

00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:53.000
in that passage you were just quoting, where

00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:56.340
I've been debased, I've had nothing, I've had

00:44:56.340 --> 00:44:59.000
it all. Godliness with contentment is great gain.

00:44:59.380 --> 00:45:03.239
That's true riches and true wealth. Amen to that.

00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:05.139
Isn't that beautiful? Because I'll tell you,

00:45:05.340 --> 00:45:08.019
when I had millions and millions, unhappiest

00:45:08.019 --> 00:45:10.739
time of my life. I get it, brother. And I'm not

00:45:10.739 --> 00:45:13.599
the first one to say that. When I saw that little

00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:18.780
BBC clip of you and saw you in your gold lace

00:45:18.780 --> 00:45:22.280
clip and then your posturing, I was going...

00:45:22.380 --> 00:45:26.820
That is all BS, man, dude. Just because I know

00:45:26.820 --> 00:45:28.579
your heart. Because you know me, yeah. I know

00:45:28.579 --> 00:45:31.800
deep underneath all that facade. Look at me,

00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:34.559
look at me. This kid's trying to go, man, I just

00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:36.659
want to make a difference somehow, some way.

00:45:37.300 --> 00:45:39.519
And you're chasing something. The last one was

00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:42.099
forgiveness. Yes. And then it lists honorable

00:45:42.099 --> 00:45:47.320
mentions that almost made the list. Purity. Purity.

00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:51.150
Self -control. Well, that's right up there with

00:45:51.150 --> 00:45:54.010
patience. The top two for me of the fruit of

00:45:54.010 --> 00:45:57.130
the Spirit. Yeah. Hospitality, opening your home

00:45:57.130 --> 00:46:00.889
and life to others. We have some friends that

00:46:00.889 --> 00:46:04.409
are very gifted in that area. Do we ever? Oh

00:46:04.409 --> 00:46:06.170
my God, you know what I'm talking about, Andrea.

00:46:06.389 --> 00:46:08.869
To the point where I'm like... We got to do something

00:46:08.869 --> 00:46:11.809
back because we're not doing enough. It does.

00:46:12.329 --> 00:46:14.110
It does. For sure. But that's a gift. And when

00:46:14.110 --> 00:46:16.929
they're in their gift, they're full of joy. Yes.

00:46:17.130 --> 00:46:19.090
You're so right. We always tell Andrea, no, we

00:46:19.090 --> 00:46:20.349
don't want it. We're not going to come there

00:46:20.349 --> 00:46:22.309
for Thanksgiving. You've doing so much. She's

00:46:22.309 --> 00:46:25.150
like, I love to do this. She does. She does.

00:46:25.309 --> 00:46:29.369
Thank the Lord. Amen. Submission. Submission

00:46:29.369 --> 00:46:31.989
in its proper context, not abuse, but willing

00:46:31.989 --> 00:46:36.550
order and trust. Yes. So that word submit is

00:46:36.550 --> 00:46:40.079
such a... Americans struggle with that. Anybody

00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:43.840
in the West struggles with that because we default

00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:46.619
to the dark stuff. But there's submission to

00:46:46.619 --> 00:46:51.119
healthy leadership and healthy bosses, healthy

00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:53.980
supervisors, healthy CEOs. There are a lot of

00:46:53.980 --> 00:46:56.780
good people out there doing good things. And

00:46:56.780 --> 00:46:59.440
I learned the hard way. I can rage against the

00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:03.079
machine and stay down here, or I can make a hand.

00:47:03.230 --> 00:47:05.949
and get up here. Every job I ever had outside

00:47:05.949 --> 00:47:09.469
of ministry, I got promotions all the time. Because

00:47:09.469 --> 00:47:11.329
I went in there and my dad taught me well on

00:47:11.329 --> 00:47:15.909
this, go make a hand. Go make a hand. Your job

00:47:15.909 --> 00:47:19.110
is to make him or her successful. And when I

00:47:19.110 --> 00:47:21.610
operated that way, there was blessing that came

00:47:21.610 --> 00:47:23.630
with that. I didn't even realize I was operating

00:47:23.630 --> 00:47:26.989
in a spiritual biblical principle, but it worked.

00:47:27.619 --> 00:47:30.059
Say that, go make a hand, explain that again,

00:47:30.179 --> 00:47:31.860
because I think I interrupted you earlier when

00:47:31.860 --> 00:47:33.320
you were about to do that. The submission piece,

00:47:33.619 --> 00:47:36.619
submitting, the idea to go make a hand means

00:47:36.619 --> 00:47:39.579
you go do your best for them. They're paying

00:47:39.579 --> 00:47:42.820
you fair, you know, sometimes, most of the time,

00:47:43.139 --> 00:47:47.119
fair. You're for hire. And you said yes to the

00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:49.599
job. So now you have a responsibility to make

00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:51.800
them successful. Yes. Because if you will make

00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:54.619
them successful, Nine times out of ten, they'll

00:47:54.619 --> 00:47:57.019
make you successful. What a lesson that is for

00:47:57.019 --> 00:48:01.380
our younger generation right now. It's kind of

00:48:01.380 --> 00:48:04.599
gotten lost. Oh, it's kind of gotten lost. Yeah.

00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:07.199
Like I just got a job, you know, just doing this

00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:10.860
for now, you know, biding my time. But the whole,

00:48:11.380 --> 00:48:14.639
that's part of America is making your company

00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.019
successful. Isn't it interesting when you meet

00:48:17.019 --> 00:48:19.340
somebody who's found joy in what they're doing

00:48:19.340 --> 00:48:21.239
and in your mind, you're thinking, God, that's

00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:23.699
not like what I'd consider a great job, but they

00:48:23.699 --> 00:48:25.920
make it amazing. That's right. There's this girl

00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:28.460
who works at Planet Fitness in Bernie. I don't

00:48:28.460 --> 00:48:31.039
even know her name. I see her every couple of

00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:33.869
days, me and Annette. That girl has got life.

00:48:34.449 --> 00:48:36.130
And Annette asked her, are you the manager here?

00:48:36.130 --> 00:48:38.329
And she goes, no, I'm just one of them. She acts

00:48:38.329 --> 00:48:41.489
like a manager. She'll be a manager. Absolutely.

00:48:41.929 --> 00:48:44.170
In fact, she should have got promoted along.

00:48:44.269 --> 00:48:46.909
She should be running that place. Because whenever

00:48:46.909 --> 00:48:48.329
all of the other kids are over there on their

00:48:48.329 --> 00:48:50.889
phones, ignoring you when you walk in, she's

00:48:50.889 --> 00:48:53.409
out there cleaning machines, cleaning the bathrooms.

00:48:53.429 --> 00:48:56.670
Straight up, man. She's doing it. And what will

00:48:56.670 --> 00:48:59.869
happen, somebody will see that. There'll be somebody

00:48:59.869 --> 00:49:02.030
who goes to that gym and says, I'm going to hire

00:49:02.030 --> 00:49:04.230
her. I don't even know what her skill set is.

00:49:04.570 --> 00:49:07.389
But if she'll apply that to anything, she'll

00:49:07.389 --> 00:49:10.789
be successful. As someone who has hired over

00:49:10.789 --> 00:49:13.530
800 people in my life, and you've hired a lot

00:49:13.530 --> 00:49:16.909
yourself. And fired a lot. Oh, absolutely. That

00:49:16.909 --> 00:49:21.949
is truly the secret to success, man. You're looking

00:49:21.949 --> 00:49:24.949
for the people who've got that. You don't even

00:49:24.949 --> 00:49:26.909
have to have all the skill set for the job, but

00:49:26.909 --> 00:49:29.940
you got that. You're in like Flynn. You know

00:49:29.940 --> 00:49:32.019
what was important to me, and you're so right,

00:49:32.380 --> 00:49:34.440
when I was looking at this list, and the reason

00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.599
I am is because I've seen how our culture has

00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:41.699
so moved away from this and where we value, I

00:49:41.699 --> 00:49:44.639
even wrote this down, things that we value now.

00:49:44.699 --> 00:49:53.360
See if I put that into something. I wrote, I'm

00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:55.000
writing this young man, this young guy going

00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:57.900
into ministry. Choose the forgotten biblical

00:49:57.900 --> 00:49:59.920
virtues, humility, contentment, forgiveness,

00:50:00.139 --> 00:50:04.119
meekness, patience, purity, over likes, clicks,

00:50:05.380 --> 00:50:09.300
views, followers, popularity, and influence culture.

00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:13.900
Because that seems to be what's garnering the

00:50:13.900 --> 00:50:18.099
attention now. And it is. But it's a short game.

00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:20.739
It is a very short game. Can you imagine being

00:50:20.739 --> 00:50:25.010
an influencer and you're just killing it? And

00:50:25.010 --> 00:50:29.210
then one bad bauble, and it's over. Immediately.

00:50:29.210 --> 00:50:31.630
You're done. Immediately. I've seen it happen

00:50:31.630 --> 00:50:33.829
over and over and over again. I've watched it,

00:50:33.969 --> 00:50:38.170
and these people are destroyed. This is the reason

00:50:38.170 --> 00:50:40.849
why I never even want to do video for podcasts.

00:50:41.630 --> 00:50:43.550
Okay, explain that. That's interesting. This

00:50:43.550 --> 00:50:45.349
would look really cool. People listening want

00:50:45.349 --> 00:50:49.130
to know. Because, well, I'm a big theater of

00:50:49.130 --> 00:50:53.789
the mind guy, and that's why I love ears to hear.

00:50:55.900 --> 00:51:00.619
When listening to a podcast, you are building

00:51:00.619 --> 00:51:03.559
an image. You're using your brain. Your brain

00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:06.380
is building an image of what we're wearing, what

00:51:06.380 --> 00:51:09.239
we're looking like, whatever. Maybe it's more

00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:12.159
subconscious than anything. You're not looking

00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:14.699
at us. You're not looking at this sign on the

00:51:14.699 --> 00:51:17.099
wall. You're not looking at the lighting. All

00:51:17.099 --> 00:51:21.980
of that distracts completely from what is being

00:51:21.980 --> 00:51:29.300
said. The subtleness of the human voice is, this

00:51:29.300 --> 00:51:31.760
is what I've done my entire life since I was

00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:37.480
13 years old, to be able to, even the way I process

00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:41.179
our sound is meant for you listening in earbuds

00:51:41.179 --> 00:51:43.039
above anything else. It works pretty well in

00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:46.809
the car too. This is how you can really communicate.

00:51:46.949 --> 00:51:50.530
We are so bad at listening. Our listening experience

00:51:50.530 --> 00:51:55.750
is so bad that 95, myself included, 95 % of people

00:51:55.750 --> 00:52:00.250
watch a movie with captions on. We went to that

00:52:00.250 --> 00:52:02.150
screening of Young Washington, it didn't have

00:52:02.150 --> 00:52:06.590
captions. I'm like, uh -oh. It's like watching

00:52:06.590 --> 00:52:10.469
The Chosen without captions. Yes, and you know

00:52:10.469 --> 00:52:14.150
what happened? We got dialed in. We got focused.

00:52:14.789 --> 00:52:19.769
Not for a second was I distracted by someone

00:52:19.769 --> 00:52:23.070
rustling with a candy wrap or anything. I was

00:52:23.070 --> 00:52:25.650
like, I was in it. I was completely focused.

00:52:26.710 --> 00:52:30.150
That's the long game. That is the long game.

00:52:30.630 --> 00:52:36.710
Video, the YouTube pastors, they got a lot of...

00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:39.360
There was a lot more good looking. It's fun to

00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:43.199
watch them. Then they edit. And by the way, it's

00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:46.980
very dishonest when you see like a short and

00:52:46.980 --> 00:52:48.820
it jumps from left to right, from left to right,

00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:51.159
because they're cutting stuff out. What I just

00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:55.599
said, I love silence on a podcast. Give me three,

00:52:55.639 --> 00:52:57.599
four seconds of silence. You know what happens?

00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:01.139
People go, what? What's happening? You know,

00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:04.179
one of my favorite moments in Korea and the Keeper

00:53:04.179 --> 00:53:07.099
is when the Amazon guy showed up. And Phoebe

00:53:07.099 --> 00:53:11.099
goes into a wild bark. To me, that's life, man.

00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:14.639
You just invited us into your house. As a listener,

00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:17.320
I'm now in your home laughing because Phoebe's

00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:22.260
losing her mind over the prime guy. That's why

00:53:22.260 --> 00:53:25.880
I never edit anything. I never edit anything

00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:30.400
out. There's no penalty against it. I was talking

00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:34.519
to one of our people at church, who, Damonette

00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:37.199
had said, oh, Adam will do it. Like she wants

00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:39.559
to do a podcast. Adam will do it. Go talk to

00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:43.840
Adam. That's my girl. Wendy, lovely woman. And

00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:46.360
she has a really good idea. Oh, I know what you're

00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:48.980
talking about. Yeah. And I said, do you think

00:53:48.980 --> 00:53:51.480
in video? She says, no, I don't think so. I said,

00:53:51.659 --> 00:53:54.420
good. And I took her down the path. And she's

00:53:54.420 --> 00:53:56.440
a storyteller. She wants to tell stories. And

00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:58.739
I'm so excited about helping her, getting her

00:53:58.739 --> 00:54:03.440
set up. Oh, clearly. These are the things that

00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:06.280
when podcasting started, This was the appeal.

00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:08.840
The appeal was not slickness. The appeal was,

00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:12.760
it was, hey, that's just some dude who's talking

00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:14.880
into a microphone. Doesn't even really sound

00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:18.000
all that great, but he's just telling his story,

00:54:18.440 --> 00:54:23.230
which some would call a soliloquy. It was the

00:54:23.230 --> 00:54:25.329
Don and Drew, the young couple who lives in a

00:54:25.329 --> 00:54:28.929
farmhouse in Minnesota. It was Michael Butler,

00:54:29.070 --> 00:54:32.389
the rock and roll geek who was drinking three

00:54:32.389 --> 00:54:35.869
long necks after a bad gig where nobody showed

00:54:35.869 --> 00:54:38.469
up. I mean, that's what it was. And of course

00:54:38.469 --> 00:54:40.929
money came in and everyone thinks they have to

00:54:40.929 --> 00:54:43.130
professionalize, but it's not. That's why. I

00:54:43.130 --> 00:54:45.269
mean, you and I are both like, cause we're audio

00:54:45.269 --> 00:54:46.769
freaks, like what am I hearing? What does that

00:54:46.769 --> 00:54:48.889
sound? But at the same time it's like, oh, that's

00:54:48.889 --> 00:54:50.469
just life. That's just, hey, we're in a church.

00:54:51.230 --> 00:54:52.889
We could have done this at your house. We might've

00:54:52.889 --> 00:54:55.369
got a bark out of Phoebe, but other than that,

00:54:55.869 --> 00:54:59.289
you're going to get pure studio sound. I like

00:54:59.289 --> 00:55:03.889
the mess because life is messy. Amen. It is.

00:55:04.289 --> 00:55:08.909
Embrace it. And video is... Yeah, I like watching

00:55:08.909 --> 00:55:11.230
Joe Rogan, and then I can see President Trump

00:55:11.230 --> 00:55:15.010
sitting there. That's interesting. But newsflash,

00:55:15.630 --> 00:55:18.670
90 % of what people are watching on YouTube happens

00:55:18.670 --> 00:55:21.010
with the screen off in their pocket. They're

00:55:21.010 --> 00:55:22.690
listening to it. I was going to say, it's usually

00:55:22.690 --> 00:55:25.090
me driving down the road. Exactly. Doing something

00:55:25.090 --> 00:55:29.949
else. Exactly. And too, isn't it different when

00:55:29.949 --> 00:55:34.079
you're watching? It turns. I'm not saying this

00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:36.159
for everybody, but sometimes when Annette and

00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:40.000
I watch a podcast, it feels like we're just watching

00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:44.159
TV again. It's almost entertainment as opposed

00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:46.820
to, am I deeply thinking about this? Is this

00:55:46.820 --> 00:55:49.639
going into me without distractions? So I don't

00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:52.239
know, just thinking in terms of just the dynamic

00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:56.920
of it. We bought cameras, we were going to do,

00:55:57.340 --> 00:55:59.780
and we did like three of them and I hated them.

00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:02.719
And Annette was like, it was torture for her.

00:56:03.199 --> 00:56:06.019
She's a girl. Because all the distractions. How

00:56:06.019 --> 00:56:08.139
do I look? What is the shot like? And then I

00:56:08.139 --> 00:56:11.159
got to have a producer in here. We can't just

00:56:11.159 --> 00:56:14.260
do what we're doing in the middle of construction

00:56:14.260 --> 00:56:16.920
and just go, hey, just hit record, man. Let's

00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:18.960
just do it. So thank you for sharing that. I

00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:21.119
think that's important for people to hear. Yeah.

00:56:21.260 --> 00:56:23.059
There may be people listening going, man, I've

00:56:23.059 --> 00:56:25.179
wanted to do a podcast, but I can't afford cameras

00:56:25.179 --> 00:56:29.599
in a studio and don't need it. Closets are great.

00:56:29.699 --> 00:56:32.739
There's a website I set up, hyperlocalpodcast

00:56:32.739 --> 00:56:38.059
.com, hyperlocalpodcast .com. You go there and

00:56:38.059 --> 00:56:40.840
there's my list of how you get started. You can

00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:43.719
get started for about, you know, 75 bucks. Man,

00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:46.159
that's great. Yeah. I've had that for a long

00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:47.539
time. You know, I'm looking forward to in the

00:56:47.539 --> 00:56:49.519
near future saying, we'll put that in the show

00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:53.070
notes. Oh, this is coming. This is coming. I

00:56:53.070 --> 00:56:55.510
know. Tell a little bit, because we're getting

00:56:55.510 --> 00:56:59.289
there. We're making steps. We're getting ready.

00:57:00.889 --> 00:57:03.530
We're actually going to have a website. We're

00:57:03.530 --> 00:57:06.110
gonna have a little newsletter that reminds people

00:57:06.110 --> 00:57:07.849
that we're gonna do something. We're gonna have

00:57:07.849 --> 00:57:09.429
proper show notes. We're gonna have an actual

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way for you to send us feedback because this

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right here, this is a long -term project and

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I see it going beyond once a week. I agree. I'm

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with you. I see it happening. I feel the progress

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and I feel the taps. I feel the God taps saying

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something's good here. Yeah, I'm in bro. I love

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that brother. Whatever we need to do to help

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people and that's our hearts. to lift up and

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encourage people and inspire them to grab hold

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of more than what they're enjoying right now.

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Because there's such a, even though the world's

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insane and there's chaos, there's so much good.

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And we want people to hear that. We want people

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to know that. And we will do that again next

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week. We get to do this. We'll see you on Wednesday,

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everybody. This, this is a chance we did not

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miss This is life, we get to do this