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Father, we are grateful today for your grace.

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We are thankful for your mercy. We are thankful

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for what modern translations say, patience, but

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what the classic King James says, long -suffering,

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that you suffer long with us. And you do that

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because you love us, you're patient. You're not

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willing that any should perish, but that all

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should come to repentance. So thank you, Father,

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for your blanket of grace over this world, drawing

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you back to yourself. No matter what's going

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on in this world, Lord, we trust you. You've

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ordered our steps. You delight in the details

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of our lives, and we get to do this in Jesus'

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name. Amen. Amen. It's Wednesday, April 13th,

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2026. We get to do this. This is episode number

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32. Yes, we do, and we get to do it transatlantic

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this week. How you doing, brother? Brother, we

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are over the pond right now. I mean, maybe under.

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We may be under. Is this over or under? I'm not

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sure how the web works. No, I'm actually at the

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airport. I'm actually below sea level, believe

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it or not. Oh, wow. Schiphol Airport is where

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we're in the hotel and I think it's like nine

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feet below sea level technically. Right, very

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cool. I'm underwater. You're underwater, brother.

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So I'm in Amsterdam. That is so cool. My brother

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Jimmy is in the Fredericksburg Bridge Church

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studio. This is so odd. I mean, I've done remotes.

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for 20 years longer than that. But not to be

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sitting there looking at you is weird. It is.

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I'm talking to an empty chair over here. And

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if I close my eyes, it's the same though. You're

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right here. Sounds like you're right here. I

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mean, it sounds like you're right here in the

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studio. So I got to tell you right off the bat,

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brother. And I love that, of course we get your

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daily grind every single morning. Well, when

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we get it, it's afternoon over here. And I love

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reading about Paul and you had some really good

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one this week about the state of the prison that

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he was in. It wasn't just a prison. I mean, this

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was like literal hell on earth. And I say this

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because Being here in Amsterdam. I got to be

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honest. I feel kind of removed from God and Wow,

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yeah, and I'm not sure exactly what it is Well,

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maybe it's because the streets here are filled

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with women with hijabs It feels distant. So it's

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actually been very helpful to read your daily

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grinds. I'm like, what am I complaining about?

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What am I complaining about, man? Look at Paul.

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Look at what he was going through. I know, right?

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Well, when I did the deep dive study on that,

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it's called a carcer and it's like the worst,

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it is literal hell on earth and it's the worst

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prison situation that the Romans could develop

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or could create. It was basically a holding cell

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for them waiting to die or be imputed more punishment.

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So, I mean, it's like to get thrown into what

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they call the inner prison, which is underground.

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It's a dungeon. There's no light in there. Obviously,

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there's poop and crap everywhere. There's rodents.

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There's decaying bodies because a lot of times

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when someone died there they just leave them

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they wouldn't even come get the bodies until

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whenever they did that to torture uh it was a

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torture chamber yeah chamber of horrors so being

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here um it just doesn't feel very spiritual in

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uh in the country but here's the weird thing

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this coming thursday the whole country has a

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vacation day because they are celebrating heimelfahrt

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Which translates literally to heaven travel day

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ie ascension day Interesting which is okay 40

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days after Easter So I guess this is after acts

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and everything and Jesus has been hanging out

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and now he ascends back up to heaven Do we even

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have do we celebrate ascension day at all? Some

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of the older mainland denominational churches,

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you know that are more iconoclastic. They celebrate

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things like that. You know, for us, you know,

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it's like, you know, Jesus ascends, you know,

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he tells his disciples, you know, go there for

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and make disciples of all the nations and he's

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taken up. And for us, man, we're just, we're

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on the mission. So We're looking back, but we're

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like, we're on, we're there. They have mattress

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sales here. Oh man, you get a day off. We're

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just on mission. That's it. I mean, we slow down

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to a degree to celebrate and whatnot, to pause.

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But really, I mean, we're so in the mission.

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It kind of reminds me of George Whitefield. He

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was in England, then he came over to America

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during the colony days to preach the gospel.

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There's a great movie that we watched the other

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night called A Great Awakening. The way I see

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George Whitefield is the way I see ourselves.

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We're just on mission. We're doing what God told

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us to do, so we're not pausing a lot. Now we

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pause for Easter, but we really don't even pause.

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We run through it because It's a celebration

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for us. I mean, there's holidays built around

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Christmas and various things, but at the end

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of the day, I mean, we just don't stop. We just

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keep going. But that's cool that they do that.

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I mean, I wonder if... If anyone thinks about

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it, what it actually means. Well, this actually

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came up as we were leaving Rotterdam. We've been

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with my daughter for the past couple of days.

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Our granddaughter is on the way. She's now 31

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weeks, so we're getting down to the final wire.

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Congratulations. Oh man, I got to tell you. Love

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it. And wait. We just did a 4D ultrasound. Oh,

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wow. I don't know if you've ever heard. I thought

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it was 3D, 4D. They're talking, so what happens

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is, so this is something, we should have this

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in Fredericksburg, if not only for the coolness,

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but also just to excite people about their children.

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No kidding. She has this whole studio and it's

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a regular ultrasound except there's a huge flat

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screen on the wall. And she has all this mood

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lighting, and she can actually do blue or pink,

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because she can do a gender reveal right there

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for you. Oh, nice. But on the screen, you see

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the traditional 2D scan, right? We've all seen

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that, the black and white, like, what am I looking

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at? Is that a radar scope? I mean, is there a

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bogey coming at me from 2 o 'clock? But then

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she hits a button. and then you actually see

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the baby's face appear right before you and and

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it's moving and she stuck her tongue out at us

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and it was oh my it's it's kind of a like a clay

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type texture that it looks like but it was just

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mind -blowing and then so anyway so the point

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was we're leaving and uh they said well because

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Christina's still working I say you got to work

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she says uh no not Thursday because of uh Himmelfahrt

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I said I never thought about that. What exactly

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says, well, doesn't Jesus go up to heaven? I

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said, well, hold on. That was Easter. And I'm

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like, oh, it's ascension day. And so that's how

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he came to it. So I don't think many people understand

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the significance of it really. I think they just

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think mattress sale, unfortunately. That's what

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they think. So brother, how's everything going

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there stateside? We're flying back tomorrow,

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but I need a report, man. What's happening? What's

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going on? Well, we had a huge Sunday because

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it's Mother's Day. We almost had 700 folks in

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the house. Just an amazing atmosphere. Honestly,

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it was a fun day. Is it okay to say have fun

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in church? I think so. We had a blast. First

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of all, worship was rocking. I mean, wow, just

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watching the whole place just together. It's

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family. This is family reunion every Sunday,

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two times, you know, with a meetup in between.

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So, man, it was just a great day. I finished

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the thing on the four soils and during the middle

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of it, I just got real caught up and excited

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and having fun because I just, I kind of chastised

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them in a loving way. I said, I mean, you guys

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are so white. I need you to talk back. I need

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you to, we need to help each other. I taught

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them how to do it. I taught them the power of

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agreement and that when you speak out loud and

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you respond to the preacher, you're saying, I'm

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in agreement with that. I'm in alignment with

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that. Yes. So I went through a whole lot of ways

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to do it and people started doing it and it all

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just got out of hand. I was like, this was fun.

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Now will that carry over? People left laughing

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and high -fiving. I know that sounds maybe to

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some people indignant or whatever, irreligious.

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It is kind of irreligious, but it was so much

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fun and there was such life in the house. There

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are just some Sundays where you come in and heavy

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things have happened in the world. There's been

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death or war or bombings and it just seems like

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there's a never -ending litany of pain and suffering.

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And then some Sundays you come in and you just

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say, we're pushing all of that away. And we're

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just going to have some fun. We're going to laugh.

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We're going to enjoy each other. We're going

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to talk about the goodness of God. We're going

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to learn some things. We're going to worship.

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We're going to praise God. We're going to have

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a good time. And it seems like a foreign concept

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to so many Christians that you can actually enjoy

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this thing. You can enjoy being a follower of

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Jesus. And the scripture says that Jesus, who

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for the joy set before him, he despised the shame,

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looking forward to what was ahead. And it talks

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about he was anointed with the oil of joy more

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than all of his brethren. So, I mean, if there

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was anyone who was a life of party, it would

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have been Jesus. Not that he was a clown or dorky

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about it, but he was so full of life and so full

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of joy because he understood what was coming

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for the human race. He understood redemption.

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something to look forward to. And it's so interesting

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here in Europe, in the Netherlands. Now there

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are churches that are somewhat similar to ours.

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There are some, and these are churches that don't

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even have a church building. They meet in school,

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auditoriums, et cetera. And they do have worship

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bands. I know they're here, but they're not very

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many. But to the general population, even the

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concept of contemporary Christian music, they're

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like, what? I say, well, here, listen to this.

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I'm loading up Godcaster on everybody's phone.

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Like, I checked this out. And they're like, wow,

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this is pretty good. They have no concept of

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it, Jimmy. They've never heard of it. They don't

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even know it exists. To them, church. is boring,

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is very strict, and they don't understand. I

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mean, if you say, well, we're kind of like a

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white version of a gospel church, a black church,

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like, oh, okay, I get it. Because they've all

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seen - That makes a little more sense. They've

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all seen Whoopi Goldberg, right? So they've all

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seen Sister Act. So they kind of understand a

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little bit what that means. But no, it's just

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so far removed. Now, still we're here. We went

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out to dinner with some people. And they're not

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believers. Hey, do you mind? We're just going

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to pray. We'll just hold hands and pray. I love

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it so much because they're like, oh, OK. And

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then when you say amen, they can't help themselves

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but to say amen. They can't help themselves.

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I love it. And no one ever says no. They never

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say, oh, I'm not going to do that. You're crazy.

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I'm not going to do that. We're bringing the

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good news. We're doing our best. I love that,

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brother. Trying to let everybody know. You're

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leaking out. Yes. You're leaking out. Yes, we

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are. And it's not complicated. You just be yourself.

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Yes. Be yourself full of Jesus. Yeah. So I found

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something for the show today. Yeah, I did do

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a little bit of a prep, regardless of right now

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it's five minutes to 11 p .m. Over here. Wow,

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didn't know it was that late. Yeah, it's all

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right. I've been living on the wrong side of

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the clock for a week now And this is I got this

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a couple of clips here I got this because I was

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watching this this interview of a guy named Let

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me see. He's professor egg nor EG NOR professor

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of neurosurgery at Stony Brook University and

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he wrote this book called the immortal mind And

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I know that you love thinking about the brain,

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brain plasticity, how our neurons fire, how they

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work, how that interacts with the word of God,

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with thinking, with praying, et cetera. And what

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caught me, I'll play this first clip and then

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we can delve into it a little bit, was, and again,

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this is a neurosurgeon, that he, He sees that

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the brain does certain things But not some very

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important things that people think the brain

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does and when I heard this like all my brother

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Jimmy will love this This will be right up his

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alley. So listen to this first clip. There are

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several ways of figuring out Whether an organ

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does does something One way is to stimulate the

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organ and get it to do it so you can prove it

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does it the other way is to inhibit the organ

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from doing it and and prove that when the organ's

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inhibited, it doesn't happen. Well, that can

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happen with the brain. While it is true that

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if you suppress the brain, we can't use reason

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and free will very well. If you get hit on the

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head with a baseball bat, your reasoning and

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your free will is going to be a little messed

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up for a while. There's a way of stimulating

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the brain to test whether reason and free will

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come from it using electrical stimulation. And

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there are different kinds of electrical stimulation.

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One kind of electrical stimulation is seizures.

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Seizures are just random sparks that happen inside

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the brain, out of the blue, that can have all

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kinds of effects. And one of the things that

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I've looked at rather carefully is the phenomenology

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of seizures. It is what happens when you have

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a seizure. And I've looked over the past couple

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hundred years, reviewed the medical literature

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of that. What we find is rather remarkable first

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of all not all seizures make you go unconscious

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There are many seizures that leave your conscious

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and your body does things that you can't control

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and they're called complex partial seizures and

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on There have been probably a quarter of a billion

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seizures in human beings over the past 200 years

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if you just look at the instance of seizures

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in the world population and There's never been

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a recorded case of a seizure causing someone

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to express reason or free will. You can elicit

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from the brain by stimulating it. Movement, perception,

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memory, and emotion. But you can never elicit

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reason or free will. No matter where you stimulate

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the brain, you can't make a person say, one plus

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one is two. Or say, if A then B, A therefore

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B, modus ponens. Or say, I believe that it's

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nice to be kind. which is a moral viewpoint.

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So that goes right along with what is found in

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seizures, that you can stimulate the brain any

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which way and reason and free will never come

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out of the brain. So it's perfectly reasonable

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to infer that reason and free will don't naturally

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come from the brain because you can't make the

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brain do it. So it was the free will part that

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got me obviously because that's what God gave

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us. He gave us free will To believe in him to

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believe in jesus or not or to you know to choose

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whichever path we want to take and you know,

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we It really made me think and the other one

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is reasoning which is important for a different

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reason i'll get to But the free will part i'm

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like, okay. So if that doesn't come from the

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brain Where does that come from? And this guy

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has done the work and you know, oh spoiler alert.

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Here's conclusion is It comes from the soul.

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And again, this is a neuroscientist. A young

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person, I was a materialist and an atheist. I

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was raised in a rather secular environment. I

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was never hostile to religion. I just didn't

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think it was true. I kind of worshiped science.

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I still love science. I don't worship it, but

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I still love it. And so I went to medical school.

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I wanted to be a doctor. And in medical school,

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I fell in love with neuroscience. And I was fascinated

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by the relationship between the brain and the

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mind. Like, how did that work? So I became a

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neurosurgeon in part because I wanted to understand

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more about that. And so I began seeing in my

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career patients that didn't fit the materialist

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picture. All my textbooks in medical school describe

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the brain as like a computer. It's like the hardware.

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And the mind was like the software. And that's

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how things worked. And we have detailed neuroanatomical

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studies of the structure of the frontal lobes

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and all these things. But I had patients who

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were missing major parts of their brains who

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were perfectly normal people. It's as if you

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have a laptop and it works perfectly and then

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you open it up and you find out that your hard

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drive is like two -thirds missing. Then how does

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my laptop work? It's a perplexing question. So

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I began looking more deeply into the neuroscience

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of the mind -brain relationship and I came across

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this rather astonishing But quite verifiable

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result that reason or free will don't seem to

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come from the brain and interestingly enough

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That's what the classical philosophers thought

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that that was what Aristotle said 2300 years

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ago So he goes this whole interview was so fascinating

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where he talks about and you know you often talk

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about Loving Jesus 18 differences 18 inches between

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the the head and the heart and it's so fascinating

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he goes into this incredible depth about the

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soul and you know you no one can point to it

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and say oh well that's where your soul is but

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he's figured it out he says these two things

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free will and reasoning do not come from the

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brain they come from the soul i was just blown

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away by that now i missed where he landed a conclusion

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about, you know, he was an atheist and a materialist

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as a young man, then he worshiped science. Did

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he make a switch at some point? Yes, he did.

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He's a believer. Again, you know, the problem

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with this guy as a scientist... If you want to

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pull clips, you might as well listen to eight

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minutes of it. I'm like, ah, that's a little

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bit too much. Well, I'm just curious. Like many,

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many scientists these days. In fact, more scientists

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are coming to Christ, believers saying, you know,

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it's crazier. You need more leaps of faith. to

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not believe in God than you do to believe in

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him. And I'm seeing this more and more and more.

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And I do have one more clip and he kind of, again,

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he's looked at conjoined twins who share the

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same brain. You can rub one of their arms and

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the other one feels it. One can actually see

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through the other's eyes, but both of them have

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individual Free will and reasoning apart from

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the other. So it's not, it's not in the brain.

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Here's the last clip, it's short. So, going back

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to something you said earlier, that reason and

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free will are immaterial aspects or parts of

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the person, powers of the person. Immaterial.

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What does that even mean? Immaterial means that

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the source of these powers is not a physical

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thing, is not a physical object. And immaterial

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is actually a fairly simple concept. For example,

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numbers are immaterial. It is that the number

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12 is an immaterial thing. That is, you can't

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say, well, the number 12 is located today in

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Cincinnati and it weighs five pounds. I mean,

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it doesn't make any sense. Also, there are many

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many many things that we think about many things

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that are quite real and they're they're called

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universals in philosophy That are very real but

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are not matter And reason of free will our abilities

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we have that whose source is our our soul but

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not our breath and And when I hear this, all

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I can hear is Wendy singing, it is well with

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my soul. In Scripture, how many times does the

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soul come out as being this important? The soul

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is called the suke in the Greek. That's the Greek

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word for it. It really means it's the center

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or the seat of your mind, will, and emotions.

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That's your soul. So, your soul kind of sums

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up the whole of who you are. Instead of seeing

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you as a bunch of individual parts stuck together,

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and now you're a human being with arms and legs

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and a head and all that, the soul, the souquet,

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is the essence of who you are with all that combined.

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So, it's immaterial. I like what he said about

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that. It's immaterial in the sense that you can't

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place a You can't say, oh, that's the soul, or

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is he a soul? You can't define that. It's beyond

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definition. There are some scriptures that speak

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to this idea of free will, but I like the part

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about reasoning as well, because to me as a believer,

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I don't check my brains at the door. I don't

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walk into church and just go, okay, well now

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just throw everything out and I'm just going

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in brain dead, or so open that everything evaporates

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out. I mean, I'm not losing. you know, myself

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in that. So listen to this. Genesis 1 .26, then

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God said, let us make man in our image, in our

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likeness. So God created man in his own image.

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And so there it is. I mean, the scripture also

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says that God breathed into man and he became

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a living soul. So there are many, many references

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to free will, to soul, but also to this idea

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of reasoning. You know, we've not been given

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a spirit of fear, the scripture says. but of

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power and of love and of a sound mind, the ability

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to think well, strategize well, reason well.

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And then another scripture says, we have the

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mind of Christ. And the Amplified says, and we

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hold his thoughts, feelings, and purposes. So

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we have the mind of Christ. So all of that, if

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you factor all those scriptures together, I really

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love the Genesis scripture because it gets into

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what's called in Latin, the Imago Dei. That's

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image of God in Latin. And I love that because

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is it talking about our shape, image if you think

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just visually, but really it's thinking about

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our essence and who we are. And it's that living

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soul, that really unidentifiable thing. I've

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seen, and you've probably seen this too online,

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there's some things going around where they think

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they have been able to photograph the first spark

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of life when a cell and a sperm come together

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and that spark is life. And it could be, it could

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very well be that they captured that moment,

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but it's still beyond definition. I mean, what

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causes the light? How does that even work? Where

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does it come from? I mean, there's so many questions

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out there and I love that the Bible God seems

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to be selective in what he lets us know and understand.

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It's almost like he keeps things, some things

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at a mystery level. And I've told people for

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years, look, if you don't have room for mystery

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in your walk of faith, you're going to be a very

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disappointed and miserable believer. Right on.

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You've got to leave space for mystery. And so

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I love the idea of this soul and reasoning and

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yet Like the number 12. It's not in Cincinnati

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and weighs five pounds. I love that was a great

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metaphor I'll probably use that again. That was

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good, but I like that. It's that intangible not

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definable and immaterial thing and That really

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is what sets us apart from animals So here's

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what I liked about it besides that, you know,

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obviously the the free will but reasoning this

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really struck me because One of the things that

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happened in the past year and a half with our

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robots, with the so -called artificial intelligence,

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is these new models came out and they said, oh,

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we now have reasoning models. Look at these things

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reasoning. And it dispelled that immediately

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for me when I heard this, like, oh, that's bull

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crap. These things aren't they can't reason because

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they're trying to simulate a brain and that's

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not where it comes from That really put me in

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a whole different mind space and that if I there

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was some really good article I read by How is

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it? Who was this guy who wrote this John Ennis

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heaven on earth and it's and he goes all right

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he goes into artificial intelligence he says

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You know this idea that's going to take away

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our jobs. No No, because these things can do

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certain things. It certainly can't reason It

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certainly can't feel it can't come up with the

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Original spark for an idea and it can't at the

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end of the process say yeah, this is good Yeah,

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this is what it has to be It can't do that and

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i've witnessed that myself. I think you you know,

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you've witnessed it as well. It's like at the

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end If you're using your logo system to put together

00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:21.339
a sermon, at the end, the thing doesn't say,

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this is it, it's perfect. It may, but that's

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not the determining factor. You're the one that

00:28:25.940 --> 00:28:28.680
says, nah, not quite. I need something here.

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We can do something a bot can't do. That is,

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we can discern context. We discern the nuances.

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We can, you know, people call it reading the

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room, right? You walk into an atmosphere room

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and you read the room. If you're good at that,

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a lot of comedians are really good at that. A

00:28:48.630 --> 00:28:50.589
lot of actors are good at it. A lot of preachers

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are good at it. You read the room and you know

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these, you sense these nuances. So many intangibles

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there. Sometimes it's a feeling. It's a sense.

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It's a sound. It's recognizing a face or smile

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or a frown. or posture, there's a thousand million,

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there's a million nuances to reading a room and

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a bot can't do that and never will be able to

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do that or to read a person. A machine has no

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grandmother, it has no childhood, it has no body.

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No context. Yeah, that has spent years building

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associations between molecule and feeling. It

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can't decide what to work on. Values don't come

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from data. They come from living in a body that

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feels things. And I love this because it put

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everything into perspective. And I think if we

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all look at it that way and say, this thing can

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never have a soul that can reason or can have

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free will. It never can because it's simulating

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something that doesn't actually have those properties.

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The brain doesn't do that. Right. Right. And

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so what it's doing is collecting data. borrowed

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data, borrowed experience, borrowed context,

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and it will never be real. It can't. It can simulate,

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but it won't be real. It will never take away

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all the jobs. It's only going to create more

00:30:18.539 --> 00:30:20.240
jobs because that's what happens every single

00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:21.980
time we come up with something that we say is

00:30:21.980 --> 00:30:24.920
going to take away jobs. Yeah, after we fired

00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:28.319
10 ,000 people, you know, destroyed their livelihoods

00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:30.579
and we're begging them to come back and fix it.

00:30:30.579 --> 00:30:34.400
That does happen. I'm curious to watch and some

00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:36.440
of these larger companies have done these massive

00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:39.960
layoffs and some of these dot coms. I'm curious

00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:44.000
to see how that ends. Well, I'm pretty sure a

00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:46.900
lot of Silicon Valley companies are looking for

00:30:46.900 --> 00:30:50.279
good excuses to trim down some middle management.

00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:53.079
Could be, yeah. We've got a lot of people here.

00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:55.339
Maybe more to the story. Yeah. What are we doing?

00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:58.839
What are they doing? You know, man, AI, AI. Yeah,

00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:02.039
yeah, yeah. We can, oh, watch our stock price

00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:04.119
go up. It's beautiful when you do that stuff.

00:31:05.859 --> 00:31:08.559
Man, that was fascinating. That was a great,

00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:11.920
great interview. And I'm going to be pondering

00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:14.220
that. You know me, I'm a processor. So I'm going

00:31:14.220 --> 00:31:18.289
to be thinking about that because I really can

00:31:18.289 --> 00:31:21.289
see what he's talking about. I can see it very

00:31:21.289 --> 00:31:25.589
clearly. The other thing that happened this week,

00:31:25.589 --> 00:31:28.630
you actually alerted me to it and I had to go

00:31:28.630 --> 00:31:33.769
look into it. And I only bring it up because

00:31:33.769 --> 00:31:39.309
there's such an almost obsessive interest in

00:31:39.309 --> 00:31:44.049
end times on the internet. People want, and did

00:31:44.049 --> 00:31:47.880
you talk about this at all on Sunday? Oh, I did

00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:50.400
it. There was much laughter in the house when

00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:54.819
I talked about aliens and spacecraft and UFOs.

00:31:55.099 --> 00:31:58.200
I was shocked at the response. People laughed

00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:03.700
out loud. I felt the sense. They shared my sense

00:32:03.700 --> 00:32:06.619
of absurdity and you know how it is in large

00:32:06.619 --> 00:32:09.690
group dynamic. There may be people who laughed

00:32:09.690 --> 00:32:12.769
out loud who were not laughing out loud three

00:32:12.769 --> 00:32:14.869
days ago, you know, when they were panicking,

00:32:14.869 --> 00:32:19.529
you know, reading Instagram. But hopefully the

00:32:19.529 --> 00:32:22.950
group think, you know, as I rolled this out and

00:32:22.950 --> 00:32:25.970
processed it out loud to help them understand,

00:32:26.230 --> 00:32:28.710
listen, guys, this stuff comes around every few

00:32:28.710 --> 00:32:31.589
years. And then I reminded them of what you said.

00:32:31.670 --> 00:32:34.289
Hey, if everybody says, come over here and look.

00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:37.140
You need to go over there and look, because this

00:32:37.140 --> 00:32:40.680
is a psyop if there's ever been a psyop. It is

00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:43.059
a clear psyop. I wanted to take it a little bit

00:32:43.059 --> 00:32:47.319
further just to give people one extra spin on

00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:53.400
it. So what happened was there were actually

00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:58.029
two meetings that took place in February. I'm

00:32:58.029 --> 00:33:01.549
surprised you didn't get invited to it. Since

00:33:01.549 --> 00:33:06.569
you were there at the Airbnb. So the story is

00:33:06.569 --> 00:33:09.470
that there were two meetings and pastors were

00:33:09.470 --> 00:33:13.009
called into an Airbnb, one in Missouri and one

00:33:13.009 --> 00:33:16.250
in Tennessee, one of them during National Religious

00:33:16.250 --> 00:33:20.490
Broadcasters Conference, and I was there. I remember

00:33:21.619 --> 00:33:24.160
vaguely someone mentioning to me, like, ah, you

00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:25.740
know, there's some pastors and they're meeting,

00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:29.660
but I was insane running around doing meetings.

00:33:29.940 --> 00:33:33.299
I didn't really register with me, but what happened,

00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:36.140
so, but not that I was invited, but someone had

00:33:36.140 --> 00:33:37.880
mentioned it to me. Now I'm gonna have to track

00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:42.400
down who said that. But each of these pastors

00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.900
was on a conference call with a Senator. Now

00:33:45.900 --> 00:33:49.430
the one in Tennessee, on the conference call

00:33:49.430 --> 00:33:52.329
was Senator Burchett and he's from Tennessee.

00:33:53.329 --> 00:33:57.150
And I have to say this guy is a believer in UFOs.

00:33:57.150 --> 00:34:00.849
He's on the committee to disclose everything,

00:34:01.069 --> 00:34:04.869
whatever that means. The other one was Senator

00:34:04.869 --> 00:34:07.190
Burleson and he's from Missouri and he was on

00:34:07.190 --> 00:34:10.630
the phone in Missouri. So the story kind of came

00:34:10.630 --> 00:34:13.030
out in a weird way because it was one of the,

00:34:13.030 --> 00:34:16.309
I call them the YTPs, the YouTube pastors. who

00:34:16.309 --> 00:34:21.590
kind of took the, and we don't have a recording

00:34:21.590 --> 00:34:24.570
of the conference call, so we don't know exactly

00:34:24.570 --> 00:34:27.940
what was said, but here's his version. of what

00:34:27.940 --> 00:34:30.079
was said, which he later had to retract. But

00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.840
I just wanted to play this so we can get an idea

00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:52.289
of how these things get launched. And they literally

00:34:52.289 --> 00:34:55.210
told us we had a sitting congressman, a very

00:34:55.210 --> 00:34:57.550
well -known congressman from Missouri. He was,

00:34:57.550 --> 00:35:00.210
he called into that meeting as well. That was

00:35:00.210 --> 00:35:02.909
just for pastors. And this is what he said on

00:35:02.909 --> 00:35:05.329
speakerphone. This sitting powerful member of

00:35:05.329 --> 00:35:07.869
Congress said, are the pastors listening to me?

00:35:08.110 --> 00:35:09.750
I'm getting chills right now because this happened

00:35:09.750 --> 00:35:12.150
to me. He said, are the pastors in the room listening

00:35:12.150 --> 00:35:15.170
to me? And I said, yes, sir, we are here. And

00:35:15.170 --> 00:35:18.920
he said, listen to me. go and tell the church

00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:23.579
they are not ready for what is coming the narrative

00:35:23.579 --> 00:35:27.000
that is coming what they are going to say is

00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.719
going to be like nothing you can even imagine

00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:32.340
they are preparing to tell us that they are from

00:35:32.340 --> 00:35:35.840
another dimension that they are our creator and

00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:38.380
that these beings these aliens or whatever you

00:35:38.380 --> 00:35:40.519
want to call them they were the ones that seated

00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:43.639
us here there is no such thing as God Jesus was

00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:45.659
invented by them the Bible was invented by them

00:35:45.659 --> 00:35:49.110
and begin to just say listen prepare the people

00:35:49.110 --> 00:35:50.809
for what is coming because they're not ready

00:35:51.389 --> 00:35:54.730
But he loved us so much. He made sure that he

00:35:54.730 --> 00:35:57.769
told us exactly the blueprint to study. He said,

00:35:57.849 --> 00:36:00.070
study the days of Noah. And if you can understand

00:36:00.070 --> 00:36:02.010
how Noah responded, that's how you're going to

00:36:02.010 --> 00:36:04.869
have to respond. Okay. So this went viral. I'm

00:36:04.869 --> 00:36:06.610
sure many people who are listening have heard

00:36:06.610 --> 00:36:09.570
about it or seen it. He had to retract it and

00:36:09.570 --> 00:36:12.489
it was... Yeah, walk it back. I mean, the retraction

00:36:12.489 --> 00:36:14.949
was, well, he didn't exactly say that, but then

00:36:14.949 --> 00:36:17.530
I'd kind of continued how I normally do my show.

00:36:17.809 --> 00:36:19.909
And so that's the kind of stuff he's usually

00:36:19.909 --> 00:36:24.809
talking about. I've been looking at this stuff

00:36:24.809 --> 00:36:28.630
for a long time, for almost two decades, and

00:36:28.630 --> 00:36:31.190
I just want to tell our people who listen in

00:36:31.190 --> 00:36:33.190
our church, and if there's any other people anywhere

00:36:33.190 --> 00:36:35.309
outside of who listen, I'm glad you're here.

00:36:36.510 --> 00:36:39.829
This always happens for two reasons. Sometimes,

00:36:40.489 --> 00:36:45.230
actually maybe they're always connected. The

00:36:45.230 --> 00:36:47.949
code word you want to be on the lookout for,

00:36:47.989 --> 00:36:50.960
and you'll hear it in the reports, When you hear

00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:56.239
about UFOs, UAPs, aliens, et cetera, you see

00:36:56.239 --> 00:37:00.440
videos. The president released the whole website,

00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:02.440
which kind of looked like the X -Files. I'm like,

00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:07.019
wow, this is great. And it had the same videos

00:37:07.019 --> 00:37:09.619
we've seen flying tic -tacs and all this stuff.

00:37:10.179 --> 00:37:14.099
And the reports will always say, it might be

00:37:14.099 --> 00:37:19.940
a UFO, a UAP, and this is always followed by

00:37:19.949 --> 00:37:23.650
it may also be some military technology from

00:37:23.650 --> 00:37:26.869
another country that we don't know about and

00:37:26.869 --> 00:37:29.590
the reason they say that is that is a trigger

00:37:29.590 --> 00:37:34.969
for money and you will see the defense budget

00:37:34.969 --> 00:37:38.909
going up by half a trillion dollars to make sure

00:37:38.909 --> 00:37:42.570
that if this stuff that we see on these videos

00:37:42.570 --> 00:37:45.949
which no one can explain If it just might happen

00:37:45.949 --> 00:37:48.869
to be some technology that we don't have that

00:37:48.869 --> 00:37:51.909
some other country has we need to start preparing

00:37:51.909 --> 00:37:57.170
for that It's always about that and the secondary

00:37:57.170 --> 00:38:00.510
one and you can you can put money on this there's

00:38:00.510 --> 00:38:03.309
always an entertainment product that goes with

00:38:03.309 --> 00:38:08.150
it and Yes in this case the entertainment product

00:38:08.150 --> 00:38:10.250
that goes with this and now mind you the the

00:38:10.250 --> 00:38:14.599
term disclosure is key here So in the government

00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:17.059
we need full disclosure. We need disclosure,

00:38:17.420 --> 00:38:20.519
disclosure, disclosure. Well on June 12th in

00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:22.980
IMAX you will have full disclosure brought to

00:38:22.980 --> 00:38:25.780
you by Universal Studios and Steven Spielberg.

00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:28.739
I've always been fascinated with things that

00:38:28.739 --> 00:38:31.699
cannot be explained. What is it? You won't believe

00:38:31.699 --> 00:38:34.869
me if I told you. I'm gonna show you. And I've

00:38:34.869 --> 00:38:36.329
made a lot of movies about things that could

00:38:36.329 --> 00:38:38.949
not be explained. From sharks to saucers. Do

00:38:38.949 --> 00:38:40.789
you think there could be others? When I was just

00:38:40.789 --> 00:38:43.469
a little kid, I'd remember developing a real

00:38:43.469 --> 00:38:46.210
curiosity about the sky at night and what's happening

00:38:46.210 --> 00:38:48.489
up there. People have a right to know the truth.

00:38:48.769 --> 00:38:52.170
And also, not the possibility, but the guarantee

00:38:52.170 --> 00:38:54.989
that there is life off this planet. People keep

00:38:54.989 --> 00:38:58.099
wandering, encountering the unknown. People's

00:38:58.099 --> 00:39:00.960
questions about what is not only going on in

00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:03.940
our skies, but what is going on in our worlds,

00:39:04.179 --> 00:39:06.940
in our realities, has reached a critical mass.

00:39:07.019 --> 00:39:10.739
They're coming! They're coming! Of people's complete

00:39:10.739 --> 00:39:14.099
fascination with, are we alone or are we not

00:39:14.099 --> 00:39:17.179
alone? They are starved for the truth. And if

00:39:17.179 --> 00:39:19.480
someone knows we're not alone, why haven't we

00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:22.260
been told? Full disclosure to the whole world,

00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:28.639
all at once. Yes! Disclosure Day is the name

00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:32.500
of it coming to IMAX June 12th. Wow. I want to

00:39:32.500 --> 00:39:35.820
see it. That was a great trailer. Of course.

00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:37.880
You know, I was thinking the whole time listening.

00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:40.739
First of all, did Spielberg script that out?

00:39:40.780 --> 00:39:44.840
That was amazing. Secondly, he's going to bank

00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:47.860
on this. This is what people are so afraid of.

00:39:48.219 --> 00:39:51.610
I mean, the timing of this. How did he know two

00:39:51.610 --> 00:39:54.210
years ago to make this movie? I mean, come on.

00:39:54.449 --> 00:39:58.070
Well, if you look at the movies he's made, do

00:39:58.070 --> 00:40:00.230
you know that the Department of War, formerly

00:40:00.230 --> 00:40:02.550
known as the Department of Defense, they have

00:40:02.550 --> 00:40:06.210
probably participated in 8 ,000 movies? I mean,

00:40:06.530 --> 00:40:08.889
Top Gun? No, I did not know that. Top Gun? Oh,

00:40:08.989 --> 00:40:12.550
come on. You know it makes sense though. And

00:40:12.550 --> 00:40:14.989
Steven Spielberg has had all kinds of contact

00:40:14.989 --> 00:40:17.869
with Uh, the department of defense in the past,

00:40:17.869 --> 00:40:20.809
uh, for a lot of his movies, some people think

00:40:20.809 --> 00:40:24.429
he actually, um, works in cahoots. I can't prove

00:40:24.429 --> 00:40:27.969
that, but yeah, the coincidence of this term

00:40:27.969 --> 00:40:31.250
disclosure, disclosure, disclosure gets ramped

00:40:31.250 --> 00:40:34.250
up. Uh, we've got disclosure day, the movie,

00:40:34.389 --> 00:40:37.510
we've got disclosure and then always, you know,

00:40:37.510 --> 00:40:39.989
you know, it just made, you know, we got, we

00:40:39.989 --> 00:40:42.170
gotta think about a new military budget in case

00:40:42.170 --> 00:40:45.800
it's not UFOs just in case. So. It all works

00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:49.460
together, folks. It all works together. And even

00:40:49.460 --> 00:40:53.079
if we didn't know all that, our God is the God

00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:59.500
of the heavens. So that's the heaven we see,

00:40:59.699 --> 00:41:03.880
the heaven we don't see. You should probably

00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:07.340
take it from here, but when I think about - You're

00:41:07.340 --> 00:41:11.260
doing great. All of the heavens and everything

00:41:11.260 --> 00:41:13.880
in there, the angels, the demons, whatever, the

00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:17.019
heavenly bodies, who knows what it is. I don't

00:41:17.019 --> 00:41:22.619
think we have to worry about it so much. The

00:41:22.619 --> 00:41:25.119
term extraterrestrial gets thrown around a lot,

00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:27.119
but what we really should be talking about is

00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:29.219
extradimensional. Because what we're talking

00:41:29.219 --> 00:41:32.719
about is another kingdom, another world. It is

00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:35.179
paralleled as alongside of this one. And we don't

00:41:35.179 --> 00:41:36.940
know how many dimensions there are. The Bible

00:41:36.940 --> 00:41:39.820
is not clear on that, but it is very clear that

00:41:39.820 --> 00:41:43.500
there are other realms. And in those realms,

00:41:43.739 --> 00:41:48.559
there are nefarious and dark actors. and called

00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:51.900
demons. And the scripture talks about demons,

00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:55.119
how they can literally disguise themselves as

00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:58.480
an angel of light. They can present themselves

00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:04.199
as, I am here to help you. And in the scriptures,

00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:08.820
it opens up that there is a full other realm.

00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:10.940
It's so funny because people go, oh, I cannot

00:42:10.940 --> 00:42:12.659
believe the Bible because it talks about all

00:42:12.659 --> 00:42:15.070
this fantasy and all these other. dimensions

00:42:15.070 --> 00:42:17.250
and realms and heaven and hell and all this,

00:42:17.250 --> 00:42:19.090
you know, stuff. And yet they're running off

00:42:19.090 --> 00:42:21.889
chasing this stuff like it's the last plane out

00:42:21.889 --> 00:42:24.329
of Vietnam. It's like, man, I got to get to this

00:42:24.329 --> 00:42:28.030
stuff. It's amazing. And so it's really, it's

00:42:28.030 --> 00:42:30.289
mind -bending. You know, Frank Turek wrote a

00:42:30.289 --> 00:42:32.710
book called, I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be

00:42:32.710 --> 00:42:35.809
an Atheist. And you alluded to that earlier.

00:42:35.929 --> 00:42:39.590
I love that line. And yeah, Frank Turek. And

00:42:39.590 --> 00:42:42.590
so I'm seeing this happen and I'm seeing people

00:42:42.590 --> 00:42:45.929
get worked up, spun up. You know, people like

00:42:45.929 --> 00:42:48.550
to think that they know something that others

00:42:48.550 --> 00:42:51.010
don't. You know, it's called esoteric knowledge.

00:42:51.650 --> 00:42:54.449
And I've brought this up before, but it bears

00:42:54.449 --> 00:42:58.230
bringing up again. People love to have the inside

00:42:58.230 --> 00:43:00.590
scoop. I mean, whether it's, whether you're a

00:43:00.590 --> 00:43:02.989
podcaster or not, you just, you want to know

00:43:02.989 --> 00:43:04.969
in the, in the middle of your friend's group,

00:43:05.130 --> 00:43:07.190
hey, I know something you don't. Let me tell

00:43:07.190 --> 00:43:10.719
you, let me inform you. And there's a real platforming

00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:13.900
that happens in the psyche and in the mind of,

00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:16.320
you know, I'm going to look good in my friend's

00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:18.139
eyes or I'm going to look good in this peer group

00:43:18.139 --> 00:43:21.059
because I know something they don't. And that's

00:43:21.059 --> 00:43:24.699
very common. So I'm watching this kind of unfold

00:43:24.699 --> 00:43:28.440
and I'm watching like this pastor. You know,

00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:32.000
I bet when he got that information, he was, you

00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:35.599
can hear in his voice how excited he was. He

00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:39.460
was loving this. And instead of being, man, this

00:43:39.460 --> 00:43:43.139
is, instead of being sober minded, he was, he

00:43:43.139 --> 00:43:44.800
reminded me of the weather channel when there's

00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:48.519
a hurricane. And you're thinking, man, Cantora,

00:43:48.539 --> 00:43:50.880
you're a little too excited about this, bro.

00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:53.960
This is dangerous. People are, you know, I know

00:43:53.960 --> 00:43:57.969
this makes your year, you know. But it's kind

00:43:57.969 --> 00:44:00.989
of that, should we be excited about this or should

00:44:00.989 --> 00:44:03.909
we be sober -minded? And the scripture talks

00:44:03.909 --> 00:44:06.650
about living sober -minded. In Thessalonians,

00:44:06.690 --> 00:44:08.590
I was reading this morning, it was talking about

00:44:08.590 --> 00:44:12.550
being sober -minded. Be clear -headed. Don't

00:44:12.550 --> 00:44:16.750
be drunk on the world. Be alive in Christ and

00:44:16.750 --> 00:44:20.610
clear -minded. And so I just see a pastor like

00:44:20.610 --> 00:44:26.099
this and I know the temptation of that. You know,

00:44:26.099 --> 00:44:30.960
we've got enough people in our big town of Fredericksburg

00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:34.260
that have been some places. I mean, they've been

00:44:34.260 --> 00:44:36.239
in meetings, they've been in closed door meetings,

00:44:36.300 --> 00:44:39.440
they've been in DC, they've been in Iran, Iraq,

00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:42.059
Afghanistan, you name it. They've been in, and

00:44:42.059 --> 00:44:45.119
they love to saddle up beside you and say, well,

00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:47.199
brother, you're not going to believe what I'm

00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:51.000
about to tell you. I hear this at least three

00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:53.559
or four times a week. Right. Or I'll get a text

00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:56.329
or I'll be in a text group and you know, oh man,

00:44:56.670 --> 00:44:58.949
just wait till this all comes. It's about to

00:44:58.949 --> 00:45:01.469
go down, brother. I hear this all the time, Pastor

00:45:01.469 --> 00:45:03.570
Jimmy. And we got to prepare our people. It's

00:45:03.570 --> 00:45:06.349
all about to go down. I've heard this for years.

00:45:07.449 --> 00:45:10.110
And I'm like, well, what does about to mean?

00:45:10.889 --> 00:45:13.869
Clarify. So that's what we're seeing right now.

00:45:14.050 --> 00:45:16.269
So I'm really, man, just sort of embarrassed.

00:45:17.030 --> 00:45:19.710
I'm sad for this pastor because he should have

00:45:19.710 --> 00:45:21.730
come back with a repentant spirit and said, you

00:45:21.730 --> 00:45:24.309
know what? I jumped the gun. I missed some things.

00:45:24.489 --> 00:45:27.730
I got excited about this. And just have the character

00:45:27.730 --> 00:45:30.769
and the humility to say, wow, swinging a miss.

00:45:30.829 --> 00:45:33.750
I missed that. I made a mistake. Yeah, but that's

00:45:33.750 --> 00:45:38.190
his entire show is doing. And the groovy thing

00:45:38.190 --> 00:45:41.510
is, is that we actually have something. We have

00:45:41.510 --> 00:45:44.090
some information. Guess what the information

00:45:44.090 --> 00:45:46.849
is. Yes, we do, brother. The information is that,

00:45:47.349 --> 00:45:50.409
yeah, yeah, extra dimensional, supernatural.

00:45:50.949 --> 00:45:53.699
Absolutely. can't really explain it. God have

00:45:53.699 --> 00:45:57.159
some mysticism in life. And even the angels don't

00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:00.000
know exactly when it's all coming down. So you

00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.780
don't have to worry about it. Live long and prosper,

00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:06.840
my brothers. Occupy until he returns. I mean,

00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:09.519
we've got work to do and it has nothing to do

00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:11.860
with chasing flying saucers. And I told our people,

00:46:11.940 --> 00:46:15.360
I said, leave your high school. telescope in

00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:17.880
the closet, do not run out at night, you know,

00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:21.159
scouring the skies for objects, bananas and flying

00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:23.880
saucers. So, you know, we laughed about it because

00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:26.539
I wanted to break up some of the tension in the

00:46:26.539 --> 00:46:28.239
room because it is the elephant in the room.

00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:30.440
And we had a good time and a good laugh about

00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:34.539
it. And I said, guys, none of this is new. We've

00:46:34.539 --> 00:46:37.659
been aware of other dimensions for thousands

00:46:37.659 --> 00:46:40.780
of years. And then all of a sudden we're told,

00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:44.460
this is it. They're about to tell us that they

00:46:44.460 --> 00:46:47.239
seeded the planet, that God doesn't exist. Well,

00:46:47.340 --> 00:46:49.539
you know, okay, leave it up to the Antichrist

00:46:49.539 --> 00:46:51.320
to say something like that, but I don't see him

00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:54.940
yet. So it's embarrassing. That's really the

00:46:54.940 --> 00:46:59.239
only danger I think is that the enemy uses this

00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:02.679
to get us spun up, to keep us spun up, to keep

00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:05.280
us on edge, to keep us going down paths that

00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:08.739
make no sense. I think keep us distracted. Yeah,

00:47:08.820 --> 00:47:12.500
that is a real danger that we should be on the

00:47:12.500 --> 00:47:15.380
lookout for. Agreed. But on the other hand, I'm

00:47:15.380 --> 00:47:17.380
buying the tickets for the IMAX, brother. I can't

00:47:17.380 --> 00:47:19.159
wait to see Disclosure Day. It's going to be

00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.420
awesome. We should go together. The four of us

00:47:22.420 --> 00:47:24.800
should go together. Curry crew, dinner day, date,

00:47:24.900 --> 00:47:26.699
you know, dinner and a movie. Let's go have a

00:47:26.699 --> 00:47:29.639
good time and laugh and enjoy it. And we're going

00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:31.679
to hear a lot of, even in that trailer, I heard

00:47:31.679 --> 00:47:33.639
phrases that people say to me all the time and

00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:37.309
like, man, you know, When I tell you this, you're

00:47:37.309 --> 00:47:40.570
not going to believe it. If I were to tell you

00:47:40.570 --> 00:47:44.170
this, you'd never believe it. I could write the

00:47:44.170 --> 00:47:46.210
script of that trailer just from people in church.

00:47:46.409 --> 00:47:49.530
I'm not lying. Something about Fredericksburg

00:47:49.530 --> 00:47:52.949
too. We've got people that are connected, or

00:47:52.949 --> 00:47:56.690
at least they tell me they are, to things. I

00:47:56.690 --> 00:48:01.150
get this all the time. Just as an aside, believers

00:48:01.150 --> 00:48:05.349
are moviegoers. So, we're a willing target and

00:48:05.349 --> 00:48:09.550
I will give them my 12 bucks. You got me. You

00:48:09.550 --> 00:48:10.909
got me. First of all, it'd be a great time out

00:48:10.909 --> 00:48:13.130
with the Currys to get to hang out and have a

00:48:13.130 --> 00:48:16.429
fun time. But it'll be good show material. From

00:48:16.429 --> 00:48:18.809
the next week, we'll go, all right, we saw this

00:48:18.809 --> 00:48:20.610
movie. It's going to be fantastic. We've been

00:48:20.610 --> 00:48:23.030
watching this movie since I was born, basically,

00:48:23.230 --> 00:48:25.150
because the whole world has been like this ever

00:48:25.150 --> 00:48:28.019
since I can remember. There's always something

00:48:28.019 --> 00:48:31.639
coming. It's always about to happen. Yeah, I've

00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:33.880
been through a lot of conspiracy theories and

00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:37.239
I can safely say most of them are kind of conspiracy

00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:38.559
theories. There's a couple of them that I have

00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:42.119
my opinions on, but the one that I love the most

00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:44.960
was searching for God and searching for Jesus

00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:47.820
and it only took me two weeks to go, yeah, this

00:48:47.820 --> 00:48:51.539
one's the real deal. This one I can confidently

00:48:51.539 --> 00:48:54.510
say is the real deal. Well, brother, I got to

00:48:54.510 --> 00:48:56.710
say you've got me watching the two towers a lot

00:48:56.710 --> 00:48:59.590
more closely and you've got me watching the bouncing

00:48:59.590 --> 00:49:01.570
buggy on the moon, too. You know, I'm going,

00:49:01.829 --> 00:49:04.289
okay, man, that is pretty fake. I got my thoughts

00:49:04.289 --> 00:49:06.789
about that. Why haven't we been back there? Well,

00:49:07.269 --> 00:49:08.969
apparently we're going. You got me wondering.

00:49:10.250 --> 00:49:13.949
All right, brother. It's 1130 here, so I'm going

00:49:13.949 --> 00:49:15.809
to pack it in for the night. But I'm glad we

00:49:15.809 --> 00:49:18.110
were able to do this transatlantic connection.

00:49:18.110 --> 00:49:20.030
Love it. Because I wanted to make sure that we

00:49:20.030 --> 00:49:25.130
keep our regular weekly show going, if only because

00:49:25.130 --> 00:49:27.889
I don't like it walking in Sunday and people

00:49:27.889 --> 00:49:30.070
going, hey, man. What happened? Where's the show,

00:49:30.530 --> 00:49:32.590
man? What happened to the show? Are y 'all not

00:49:32.590 --> 00:49:34.690
going to do one this week? What's going on with

00:49:34.690 --> 00:49:37.929
that? Yeah. The sound of disdain. Hey, do tell

00:49:37.929 --> 00:49:40.869
Kevin and Christina, send our love. We're so

00:49:40.869 --> 00:49:43.110
proud of them and proud for them. And tell Tina

00:49:43.110 --> 00:49:45.750
we miss her too. I mean, we miss you guys. So

00:49:45.750 --> 00:49:47.789
we're looking forward to having you back in the...

00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:50.300
Texas Hill Country soon, and then we've got a

00:49:50.300 --> 00:49:52.739
big trip coming up. We do. We're going to Nashville,

00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:54.719
we're going to K -Love, and we'll have a lot

00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:57.019
to talk about for sure. That's right. We'll be

00:49:57.019 --> 00:49:59.780
in the biodome. All right, brother. Have yourself

00:49:59.780 --> 00:50:01.739
a great couple of days. We'll see you in church

00:50:01.739 --> 00:50:03.940
on Sunday. We'll be there. All right. Much love,

00:50:03.940 --> 00:50:07.019
brother. Bye -bye. And we will be back on Wednesday.

00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:09.039
That's right. We keep doing it because we get

00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:11.400
to do this. We'll see you next week. Bye -bye.

00:50:17.659 --> 00:50:22.820
We get to do this This is a chance we did not

00:50:22.820 --> 00:50:28.000
miss This is life We get to do this
