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All right, Father, we honor you. And Lord, even

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with the banging that's going on around us right

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now, Lord, it's just the sound of progress as

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we are blessed to even expand our capacity and

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capability here at the Bridge and the Bridge

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Studios. Thank you that Adam and I come together

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and we literally have this heart and this attitude

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of we get to do this. So today, we pray for anyone

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who listens to this. We pray, Father, that their

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hearts be open. Minds would be attentive, Lord,

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and you would speak life into them and encouragement

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and hope as we continue down this track. We honor

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you in all we do and say today in Jesus' name.

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Amen. Amen. It's Wednesday, April 30th, 2026.

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We get to do this. This is episode number 30.

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We get to do this. And hello, everybody. Welcome.

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You've got two frazzled podcasters with you today.

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At least I am. I'm a little frazzled today. Oh,

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really? I'm obviously frazzled. I mean, I came

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flying in here from two previous meetings. I

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left a meeting to get here. Oh, man. Because

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I love doing this. Me too, brother. I do. I mean,

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the meeting's important, but we've got our whole

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staff in there so they can relay the info to

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me. But man, just such a joy to sit here on the

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mic. Likewise. And man, before we get into anything,

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I love the video I saw from the BBC archives

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of you jumping out of your helo into your castle

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and into your opulent gold chair. Wow. I'm looking

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at that. That was amazing. 2004, right? 2004,

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yeah. It was always the public broadcasters who...

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immediately understood, you're like, oh, this

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is something good. NPR, PBS, BBC, these guys,

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they all understood that they only had 24 hours

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a day. And radio listening in the UK is very

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different. Culture than then we have we used

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to have that sitting around the wireless. This

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is still very big in the UK Wow, so for them

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to have you know more ways to broadcast and it

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was just exciting to them So they came over to

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visit me in Belgium and this was definitely a

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different period in my life And I guess I'll

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put a link in the show notes because they just

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published this all of a sudden They put it on

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their on their webs on their YouTube channel.

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People said oh, oh man. What is this never? seen

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this before. So yeah, but the thing is, it's

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great. I am just as enthusiastic today, maybe

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even more so than I was back then. And I also

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don't feel older. I look at that now that's,

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you know, and I look at that's 20, 22 years ago.

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I don't feel less. I just don't feel older or

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less energetic, the same energy, which makes

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sense because this is the path that God has had

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me on all these decades. No kidding. Yeah, but

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yeah, I had the helicopter landing in the back.

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That was kind of cool. Did you see me with my

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Ugg boots? No, I didn't notice the Uggs. I did

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not see the Uggs. I jump out of the helicopter

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wearing Ugg boots. Oh yeah. You were fixing your

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hair. That distracted me. You're under the blades.

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You've got to get the hair. Tina noticed the

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same thing. Oh, look at you, primping your hair,

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man. Look at you. It's a great video. How would

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you find it on if you were to just go to YouTube?

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Because it's worth a watch. Talk about the early

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days of podcasting. Yeah, if you say 2004 podcasting

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BBC, it'll probably pop up. I'll put a link in

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the show notes. Very cool. So we need to apologize.

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I did during the prayer, but I need to just call

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it out because it's very loud right now. This

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is a church mouse I hear. Oh my gosh. That's

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a big squirrel up in the attic. So we are building,

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we're adding mega seats into... our, we call

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it a flex space or extra room, all purpose room

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that we do. Cause our meetings, you know, our

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last men's meeting, we had 130 men. Oh, we were

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wall to wall. There'll be probably close to that

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with women this Saturday, which by the way, I'm

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coming to support Tina. I will be there. I will

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be there too. I'll be there cheering her on.

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She's doing, giving her testimony. Yeah. That's

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a big deal for her. It's beautiful. Kind of her

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first opportunity to really present that in it.

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Yeah. So I've been living with her with this

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as she lived with me When I was gonna do my testimony

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in Lake Wales, it's always a build -up. I completely

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understand it Yeah, but this was put on her heart

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well over a year ago, and she's just been Working

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towards this praying like Lord. Is it time yet?

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Is it time yet? And then it was time and now

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she's like Lord Are you really sure this is not

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the time? Because yeah, she's She's she's anxious

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a little bit. Yeah, of course, which is understandable,

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but she's a great speaker and there's she'll

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be phenomenal And she's just got the voice the

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buttery voice. It's amazing. I don't know if

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it's that Indiana thing, but man, there's just

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a Beautiful well, you know, she was the voice

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of the touch tone teller Yes. And I can totally

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hear that. I mean, like, yes. If you'd like to

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get a certificate of deposit, press three. Oh,

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perfect. Right. Back in the day. Oh, man. You

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always wonder who do those. Back when you're

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young and you're listening to these, you go,

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oh, I wonder what the person looks like who did

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this. I think weird. There it is. I think weird.

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That's what they look like. That's her. That's

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cool. Well, I'm excited for her. So you guys

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listening, pray for her. Just throw a prayer

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up and just say, Lord, bless Tina. She shares

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her testimony. that'll have high impact. So that's

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hence the need to expand our space. We have capacity

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for about 100, and we're going to have 130 in

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there. Will this be also used for more people

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during service? Yeah, we're going to create an

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overflow space. We can build a new building for

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$14 million. Let me write a check. Yeah, here

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we go. Let's drop it in there. drop in the hat.

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So, or we can actually do an overflow space and

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you know, spend 500, 600 ,000 and get that done.

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So that's what we're doing right now. So it'll

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be a nice space. It won't look like a warehouse

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like it does now. It'll be finished. We'll have

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a big screen or how does that work? Well, yes,

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we're going to do a screen in there and we'll,

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we'll have a live, uh, partial band like a, just

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so they'll have live music back here. So we want

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to import the whole band. We'll just do, we'll

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have the acoustics set back here. So it'll be

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a little more casual. Oh, interesting. And it'll

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be, it'll be a different atmosphere, but then

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the message will be piped from the main room

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into the overflow space. So a lot of it will

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be the same, but we'll have a host over here,

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you know, as it builds. And so yeah, we're at

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that point. We hit nearly 700 two weeks ago.

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We were nearly 700 this weekend. In a town of

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11 and a half thousand or whatever it is, that's

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crazy. Something's happening. Something is happening

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here. Yes. You know, well, maybe I'll just kick

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it off with this because bring it. So actually,

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I texted Glenn Beck about this. So he came out

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with something that I mean, he's. spending money

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that he'll never get back on an audio series

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called, I think it's America, what is it? Let

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me see where it is. I thought I had it written

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down here. I'll have it because I can pull up

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from your text because I actually listened to

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part of it. Very cool, actually. Yeah, so it's

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the American story is what it's called, the American

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story. And so this just popped into my Godcaster

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feed and you can find these if you have the Godcaster

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app. If not, go to Godcast .RFM or go to The

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Bridge and there's links to it. And this episode,

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the third episode is about The Great Awakening.

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Now, did you hear any of that? Yeah, I listened

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to about 15 minutes of it. It was so good. I

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just want to share some of that with people because

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it starts, I didn't realize this, it started

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right after the Salem witch trials and he has

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this whole thing about the Salem witch trials.

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That was cool. How they happened, which was,

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you know, clearly, you know, just... temporary

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insanity, basically. Just people went insane.

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But that is also the work, you know, confusion

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and stuff like that is the work of the enemy.

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And so he takes us through this. This journey

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and what I love so much about it is he's doing

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theater of the mind. You know, he's doing sound

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effects and he's doing, you know, ambient and

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narration. The girl's screaming in the background,

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demons his ass or whatever. I'm going to skip

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that bit. But just listen to this is kind of

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where the where the change happened. And of course,

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this all came, you know, there's what three million

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people, I think, in the colony. So it was pretty

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early days. The Salem witch trials, while an

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extreme example. were symptomatic of churches

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sinking into decay. Puritans repeated the kind

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of oppression that they had fled England to escape.

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Their piety had turned rigid and cruel. By the

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early 1700s, a sense of decline gripped New England.

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Pastors lamented their congregations straying

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from their first love. Distracted by business,

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trade, and worldly woes, their hearts had grown

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cold. God, they said, had sent judgments as warnings,

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such as the devastating wars with the Native

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Americans and the disaster in Salem. The New

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England colonies were barely a century old, and

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they already needed a reboot. At the first Congregational

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Church in Northampton Mass, embers began stirring.

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It was Pastor Solomon Stoddard. He urged his

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congregation to pray for God to do a new work

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in their community. As Stoddard put it, quote,

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The spirit of the Lord must be poured out upon

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the people, else religion will not revive. The

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sparks from those embers in the Northampton Church

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would ignite something massive, a spiritual renewal

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that would spread from town to town and change

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America. I love this so much. Yeah, I already

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unmuted here. I love this so much. Me too. I

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can't wait to dive back in. But this could happen

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here. This is my point. This happened in one

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church. One single church is where this started

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to take hold. I know. Exciting. It is. And are

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you familiar with this pastor, Stoddard? Are

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you familiar with him? No, no. It makes me want

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to go look him up. This is why I love things

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like this, because it's education. It's not just

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the theory of the mind for entertainment, although

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it is very entertaining. It is entertaining.

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Yeah, it is good. Did you hear the drills? Did

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you know they had drills back then? I'm sorry.

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You muted some of that. Here's the second piece.

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This is where we get into it. Revival erupted

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in Edward's church. He kept a track of it in

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a book called A Faithful Narrative of the Surprising

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Work of God, which read like a firsthand account

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of a miracle. Listen to this excerpt, his words

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capturing the electric atmosphere. The Spirit

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of God began extraordinarily to set in. and wonderfully

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to work amongst us. There was scarcely a single

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person in the town, either old or young, that

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was left unconcerned about the great things of

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the eternal world. This work of God, as it was

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carried on and the number of true saints multiplied,

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soon made a glorious alteration in the town,

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so that in the spring and summer following, 1735,

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The town seemed to be full of the presence of

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God. It never was so full of love, nor so full

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of joy. There were remarkable tokens of God's

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presence in almost every house. It was a time

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of joy in families on the account of salvations

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being brought unto them. Parents rejoicing over

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their children as newborn, and husbands over

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their wives, and wives over their husbands. There

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were many instances of persons that came from

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abroad. on visits or on business, who partook

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of that shower of divine blessing that God rained

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down here and went home rejoicing. Till at length

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the same work began to appear and prevail in

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several other towns in the country. In every

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place, God brought his saving blessings with

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him. Edwards was floored, stunned by the scope

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of the revival. Nearly everyone in Northampton

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showed signs of conversion or deep soul surge.

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This revival didn't stay local. It marked the

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dawn of the Great Awakening, a movement of Christian

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conversion and rededication that swept through

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the colonies like a flood. I know, right? So

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good. Why'd you turn it off? No, I'm kidding.

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We got to get back to the show. After two minutes,

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we got to stop somewhere. So good, man. So get

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this on the Godcast so you can just search for

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Glenn Beck podcast and listen to it in your car

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when you're driving. Listen to it in your truck.

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You will be just blown away. You get sucked in.

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And this kind of goes back to what I was saying

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about the BBC, radio dramas, these things. Love

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it. They've kind of fallen. by the wayside just

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because they're expensive to produce, although

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increasingly easier to produce because you can

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do it at home. And, you know, we don't have to

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necessarily pay a lot of those true detective

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podcasters. They've got sound effects. You have

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a lot of that going on. Yeah. But also, you know,

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invite your kids to listen to this kid. It's

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thrilling to hear what was not the imagination

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again, which is what we've so dumbed down and

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dulled down with a visual Overslot. I mean, we're

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just like onslaught of visual stuff and it just,

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it, it dumbs you down. It's like you get into

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numbness. And it's a way, you know, cause reading

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is very difficult for people these days. Uh,

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just, you know, sitting still with a book or

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there's so many distractions around us all the

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time. I mean, you have to basically put your

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phone in a different room because that will continue

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to, to be, uh, alerting you to some important

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thing you need to do. Uh, and which gives us

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all a Pavlovian response. but when you just listen

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to this and just get swept up in it, and this

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is America, and in this 250th year, this is the

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stuff that I hope people just will focus on and

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listen to, because it is where we come from,

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who we are, and man, I hope we can get some of

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that back. Man, if you get a chance to text or

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write Glenn or talk, just tell him, man, he's

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got some fans here, we're promoting this, we

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are in with it. And we appreciate it. Well, I

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texted him and he says, oh man, thank you so

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much. We posted on social media. I said, yeah,

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of course. And then he reposted mine. He's like,

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Adam Curry thinks this is good. Yeah, I pulled

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it off of X. There you go. It was so good. So

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it worked. You found it through that. Oh, good.

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Because I was going to keep it as a surprise

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when you said, I heard that. I'm like, well,

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how did that happen? How did it happen? I'll

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follow you on X. It's my own fault. I'll definitely

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let him know. I'm a follower. Because he does.

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Thank you. He does this kind of stuff and I just

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appreciate that because there's, I don't think

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there's just, there's not a lot of, you certainly

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know, well he does, actually there was advertising

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in it strangely enough, but anyway, Glenn makes

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it work and it's just something cool to listen

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to. And when I hear that, how it started in one

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church in one small part of one of the colonies

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and how that just caught fire. And if we all,

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If we all were just a little less cautious about

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talking about our faith, I think we would ignite

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so many other people. For instance, we got a

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really nice email from Carol Goodman. She says,

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Adam, I want to take a moment to write you. Tell

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me how much of an impact you've had on my daily

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life. You genuinely changed my routine and improved

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my overall mindset in ways I didn't expect. My

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husband and I moved to Fredericksburg in late

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2024 and finally settled full time on our 90

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acre ranch in Willow City. Now that we're empty

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nesters, it's been a really rewarding transition.

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I've had a long career as a contracts and acquisition

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professional. I'm still doing it, but luckily

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now I can work remotely and enjoy what I like

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to call the best kept secret, the Napa Valley

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of Texas, Fredericksburg. About me, Gen X Georgia

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girl, US Air Force Academy grad, Air Force officer,

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Iraqi war veteran, Christian, wife, mom, now

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a grandmother, and I've always been a hardcore

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conservative and political news junkie. For years,

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that meant staying glued to Fox News and social

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media, which honestly kept me constantly spun

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up. Wow. I realized who you were through attending

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Bridge Church here in Fredericksburg. Do you

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know Carol by any chance? I do. I know exactly

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what you're talking about. And led me to We Get

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To Do This, which led me to No Agenda and everything

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shifted. I feel calmer, more grounded, more intentional,

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how I consume information. You all have helped

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me step away from the noise and I'm truly grateful

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for that. And the message, put down your phones

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and pick up your Bible from the We Get To Do

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This podcast really hit home for me. It really

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stuck. That's beautiful. Yeah. And she also says

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she was a fan back in the MTV VJ day. So just

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leave that, leave that for what it is. But that's,

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to me, it's like, here we are. That's why we

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get to do this. If that's the result, I am super

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happy. You know, while we love getting emails

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and, you know, notes from people all over the

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place and keep them coming, guys. I mean, this

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is a conversation. I try to get back with anybody

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who writes, you know, and respond. But it seems

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there's something really special when it's people

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right here in your community. Because that's

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really where the heart of this, the genesis of

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this is we want to touch our community. We want

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to see this revival that we just heard about

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from history. We want to see that happen right

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here. And so it starts here, starts local, then

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it goes translocal, right? It moves out in concentric

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circles. So wonderful to hear from Carol. And

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what a sweet note. That's awesome. Things are

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happening. Theo Vaughan, you familiar with Theo

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Vaughan? Why is that ringing a bell? He's a big

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YouTube podcaster. Yeah, got long hair. Yeah,

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he's kind of like a... Got a mullet working on

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a mullet. Yeah, kind of redneckish looking dude.

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He's like, I'd say, a Rogan spinoff in a way.

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Very big podcast. He does very similar with,

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you know, talking to people. You know, very laid

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back interviews. And... Now, Theo has been very

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open about his struggles with addiction, alcohol,

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cocaine, pornography. He's a comedian, but this

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podcast thing really caught for him. And all

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of a sudden, he's out doing interviews talking

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about his faith. And I'm not one to spike the

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ball like, yeah, we got Theo Vaughan. But just

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this one thing talking about prayer, I just wanted

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to share this because this was so deep and so

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good, and he needs prayer from us. Listen to

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this. You know, I've been struggling, man. In

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the past, like, couple years, I've had, you know,

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it's been a struggle. You know, sometimes I realize

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for myself, I would pray to God to help me get

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away from certain behaviors in my life, but at

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the same time that I was praying, there would

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be a part of me that knew I was probably going

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to do those things again. And there's a story

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called John 5 and it's about a guy who's at these

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pools there's a sick man there and he's been

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sick for a long time and And Jesus asked and

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Jesus asks him do you want to be healed? He asked

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him do you want to be healed? And that's a crazy

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question because You know if I get healed Then

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I'm different So that's just been something that

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I've been having to ask myself. It's like, do

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I want to be healed? Do I really want something

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different? And sometimes a lot of the answer

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is no, I don't. I want something different, but

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I don't wanna, I don't know if I'm scared of

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it, I don't know what I am. I don't know if I

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don't wanna do what it takes to get, I can't

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even tell what it is. It's hard from this some

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of this stuff's a little bit hard for me to say

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I think I don't even know why but I think I want

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a new story This hits home for me and for Tina

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too because when when we were in the process

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of being safe, we're like But I don't really

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want to change. I don't want to be different.

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This is and that's just how you think at that

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moment Well, you know, what am I gonna be like

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some? crazy Bible thumper or what is going to

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change? And so I feel him in this moment. I feel

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him. And for me, the answer is, yeah, you're

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going to change. But wow, is it going to be so

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good? This just seems like this is something

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that people are struggling with when it comes

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to their faith. Like you would say, are you ready

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to step over that line? This is the stepping

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over the line bit, man. I can feel him struggling

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with that. Man, I love the fact that he just

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hung that out on his podcast. A lot of times

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when you're podcasting over time, and I'm noticing

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this, you start to feel like you got friends.

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Bo Lacoste, and now Brett Vaughn, and others,

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and Carol, and others, Holly. I mean, the list

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goes on where you start to realize, okay, there's

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somebody listening to what I'm saying right now.

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And they may not be in real time, obviously.

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It's going to be later. But so you feel that,

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you feel, and I can feel him leaning into that.

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He's being real and true. I mean, and I love

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that. He kind of has a Jelly Roll vibe, you know,

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because Jelly's kind of in the same place. He

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does. He does have a bit of that, yes. He's really

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leaning into his faith. He's growing. But he's

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the first to admit he's still struggling. And

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man, I just totally appreciate that transparency.

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That transparency is what's going to bring the

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breakthrough for healing, the breakthrough. And

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of course, we always think different means weird.

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You know, we think I'm going to suddenly, you

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know, carry a briefcase around instead of a backpack

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and I'm going to suddenly put Jesus stickers

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all over my car like Mel. I got one on mine now

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too. Or I'm going to become, as you call yourself,

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a Jesus freak. But that doesn't mean you're freaky.

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That just means you're freaky over Jesus. It

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doesn't make you weird. It actually makes you

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the best of who you can be because God begins

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to enhance all those amazing gifts that He gave

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you to begin with. that starts to emerge over

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time. And actually, we begin to see the best

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true version of who you are, not the false narrative,

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not the fake or the phony or the imposter. We

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get to see the real person emerge out of that.

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That's what coming to Christ, yeah, we give our

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life over to Him. We surrender, which is the

00:24:10.130 --> 00:24:13.529
hardest thing for anybody. And once you step

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over that line, and He's obviously right there,

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Theo, I like that. That comes actually from theology,

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theos, god. Is that where the name comes from?

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Yeah. I mean, Theodore. He doesn't even know

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that. Yeah, he didn't even know that he calling

00:24:28.230 --> 00:24:31.650
himself Theo, theos is god. So anyway, but I

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love that he's already stepping down that path.

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But what's going to happen while there's that

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fear of, I may become something different than

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I'm comfortable with or that I know my default.

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That's the beauty. You don't become your default.

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You become the best of who God created you to

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be. And so what also hit me is, he says, you

00:24:52.460 --> 00:24:55.160
know, when I'm praying, I'm like, Lord, help

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me stop these behaviors. But in his inner self,

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he's like, I'm probably going to do it anyway.

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I mean, how do we deal with that in our prayer?

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Well, because when you're locked into habits

00:25:10.259 --> 00:25:14.880
and addictions, you can't remember a time when

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it wasn't that way. So you're sort of stuck behind

00:25:17.980 --> 00:25:21.299
a false wall or a smoke screen. You know, smoke

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screen, you go through it, you're like, oh, it's

00:25:23.140 --> 00:25:24.700
just smoke. It wasn't a brick wall. It looked

00:25:24.700 --> 00:25:26.819
like a brick wall. It was just smoke. But we

00:25:26.819 --> 00:25:28.700
get stuck behind those walls, and that's what

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I hear, because we can't imagine ourselves not

00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:35.759
having a coping mechanism, because that's what

00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:38.960
addictions are. It's coping. It's numbing. It's

00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:41.619
all those things. And he can't imagine himself

00:25:41.619 --> 00:25:45.759
not having that. So there's a fear. What am I

00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:47.940
going to default to if I don't have this anymore

00:25:47.940 --> 00:25:51.759
as a crutch? What am I going to do now? And the

00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:54.460
beauty of it is you're doing it. It changes.

00:25:54.839 --> 00:25:58.240
I mean, even your desires change. Even what you

00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:00.799
want and what you crave after. And that didn't

00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:02.660
happen overnight. I don't ever want to throw

00:26:02.660 --> 00:26:06.599
out this rose -colored glasses moment here. Dying

00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:09.839
to yourself is a process, and it's hard. And

00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:12.819
Jesus didn't say, he says, my yoke is easy, my

00:26:12.819 --> 00:26:14.880
burdens lie. But he also said, those who desire

00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:17.759
to be godly in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.

00:26:17.940 --> 00:26:22.200
I mean, we've got to be careful. that we don't

00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:24.220
oversell under deliver in the sense of telling

00:26:24.220 --> 00:26:27.440
people, Hey man, it's awesome on this side, man.

00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:30.500
You'll never have another problem. Boy, we're

00:26:30.500 --> 00:26:34.299
dealing with car stuff. Still the drama continues

00:26:34.299 --> 00:26:37.319
with Lexus corporation. And I don't want to get

00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:39.400
into that on this, this one, cause we're still

00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:42.160
waiting on some things. But, but you know, I

00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:44.539
had, pastor Brian came into my office today.

00:26:44.579 --> 00:26:46.099
This is how real it gets around here. And he

00:26:46.099 --> 00:26:48.859
goes, can I just pray for you? He said, I know

00:26:48.859 --> 00:26:51.720
this is a distraction. And I know you're trying

00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:55.099
to focus on you. We've got WWJDJ tonight. I'm

00:26:55.099 --> 00:26:56.839
teaching tonight on spiritual gifts. He goes,

00:26:57.420 --> 00:26:58.920
I know you're distracted with all that. Can I

00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:02.079
pray for you? That's what brothers do, right?

00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:05.700
We help each other. And I said, please do. And

00:27:05.700 --> 00:27:08.220
I've been coping okay, but I'm not going to lie.

00:27:09.180 --> 00:27:12.319
I mean, this stuff's coming at me and we're being

00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:14.380
told things are going to cost twice as much as

00:27:14.380 --> 00:27:18.279
they were. That we're, you know, everybody's

00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:21.099
balking. Nobody wants to own what happened. And

00:27:21.099 --> 00:27:25.200
so all that to say, and again, no details, but

00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:28.099
yet, there'll be a time for details, but not

00:27:28.099 --> 00:27:30.579
right now. But all I have to say is just when

00:27:30.579 --> 00:27:32.960
we find ourselves distracted and being pulled

00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:35.519
away, you know, it's so awesome to have brothers

00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:38.140
who say, hey man, I know you're distracted because

00:27:38.140 --> 00:27:41.220
I would be. So can I pray for you? Not to be.

00:27:41.369 --> 00:27:45.349
So those are the things that you step into as

00:27:45.349 --> 00:27:48.589
a believer. You don't step into perfection. You

00:27:48.589 --> 00:27:51.609
step into a journey. It's just the first step

00:27:51.609 --> 00:27:54.589
on a long journey. You know, I've been thinking

00:27:54.589 --> 00:27:57.829
about prayer a lot, especially after hearing

00:27:57.829 --> 00:28:01.529
this from Theo Vaughn. And I went back, because

00:28:01.529 --> 00:28:05.890
we have the model prayer, which we talk about

00:28:05.890 --> 00:28:11.839
quite a lot. And so it's Matthew 6. There's a

00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:13.700
couple things that struck me as I was rereading

00:28:13.700 --> 00:28:17.619
it, because before Jesus tells us, tells the

00:28:17.619 --> 00:28:21.799
disciples how to pray, when you pray, say, He

00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:27.099
first started with what not to do. He starts

00:28:27.099 --> 00:28:29.380
with, when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites,

00:28:29.460 --> 00:28:32.380
for they love to pray standing in the synagogues

00:28:32.380 --> 00:28:34.259
and on the street corners to be seen by others.

00:28:34.339 --> 00:28:36.920
Truly, I tell you, they have received their reward

00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:39.019
in full. But when you pray, go into your room,

00:28:39.099 --> 00:28:41.599
close the door and pray to your Father who is

00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:44.079
unseen. Then your Father who sees what is done

00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:49.599
in secret will reward you. And so, then the simplicity

00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:54.440
of the model prayer, which on its face seems

00:28:54.440 --> 00:29:03.690
simple, I'm like Am I over complicating my prayer

00:29:03.690 --> 00:29:07.450
should it just When Jesus says when you pray

00:29:07.450 --> 00:29:10.410
say and you know, I'm fully aware that it's not

00:29:10.410 --> 00:29:14.410
asking for me is our father not my father Forgive

00:29:14.410 --> 00:29:18.029
us and give us our daily bread. So it's just

00:29:18.029 --> 00:29:23.309
like this meta thing that I look at that and

00:29:23.309 --> 00:29:27.140
I'm like Am I overcomplicating other things when

00:29:27.140 --> 00:29:32.059
I'm praying for healing for people? Should it

00:29:32.059 --> 00:29:35.279
all just be wrapped up in the model prayer? Does

00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:38.200
this question even make sense to you? Yes, I

00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:42.420
do because we all go down that track of waking

00:29:42.420 --> 00:29:45.460
up one day and go, why did that take me so long

00:29:45.460 --> 00:29:48.509
to get to the point? Maybe God's sitting there

00:29:48.509 --> 00:29:50.670
like somebody when church has gone 15 minutes

00:29:50.670 --> 00:29:53.890
over. He's going, okay, wrap this up, boys. I

00:29:53.890 --> 00:29:56.430
do wonder about that. Land the plane. Is he like

00:29:56.430 --> 00:29:58.950
glancing over his iPad like, oh, I'm sorry, what?

00:29:59.470 --> 00:30:01.069
I'm listening to about a billion other people

00:30:01.069 --> 00:30:06.390
right now at the same time. I love where Jesus

00:30:06.390 --> 00:30:08.950
in that passage you read, he says, I think they'll

00:30:08.950 --> 00:30:11.990
be heard for their many words. Yes. That's verse

00:30:11.990 --> 00:30:14.700
seven. says, and when you pray, do not keep on

00:30:14.700 --> 00:30:17.599
babbling. Babbling like pagans. For they think

00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:19.440
they'll be heard because of their many words.

00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:22.039
That is a keep it simple saint moment if there

00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:25.920
was one. So recently in our staff meeting, our

00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:28.759
staff used to, we never did like corporate prayer

00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:30.839
as a staff. We just kind of one person led and

00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:33.619
then we went into our staff meeting. Then we

00:30:33.619 --> 00:30:35.759
started saying, hey, you know what? We got nine

00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:39.059
staff. We got 10 here today or nine. We're going

00:30:39.059 --> 00:30:40.759
to assign everybody an area. So you're going

00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:43.859
to pray for this flex space. You're going to

00:30:43.859 --> 00:30:48.880
pray for the new life center and the outreach

00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:55.000
to children with hard things. And then we're

00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:57.279
going to pray for spiritual warfare, pray against

00:30:57.279 --> 00:30:59.519
that, pray for unity, all those things. So we

00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:02.619
have 10 every week. And at first, everybody was

00:31:02.619 --> 00:31:04.980
shy when we first started. Nobody prayed hardly.

00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:09.619
But then everybody got unshy. And then we started

00:31:09.619 --> 00:31:12.339
looking at our watches going, wow, this just

00:31:12.339 --> 00:31:15.299
took the whole meeting. So I had to come in and

00:31:15.299 --> 00:31:18.519
say, listen, guys, everybody gets one minute

00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:21.380
because what would they would do? They'd pray,

00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:23.720
they'd do an introduction, the body, and then

00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:26.839
a conclusion, like a sermon. Like a whole arc.

00:31:27.049 --> 00:31:29.250
We're already here. Yeah, we don't need the heart.

00:31:29.369 --> 00:31:32.089
Just jump right into the topic. So we limited

00:31:32.089 --> 00:31:35.650
the prayers to a minute. And so in 10 minutes,

00:31:35.849 --> 00:31:39.210
we've prayed, covered a lot of ground. It is

00:31:39.210 --> 00:31:42.950
no less impactful, no less powerful, and no less

00:31:42.950 --> 00:31:47.650
spiritual to get right to the point. And so I

00:31:47.650 --> 00:31:50.109
love this scripture. They think they'll be heard

00:31:50.109 --> 00:31:51.930
because of their many words. And then the next

00:31:51.930 --> 00:31:55.829
line, do not be like them. Yes. For your father

00:31:55.829 --> 00:31:59.210
knows what you need before you ask him. So he

00:31:59.210 --> 00:32:01.990
gives us a template in that model prayer. So

00:32:01.990 --> 00:32:06.109
again, am I doing too much? Because you're not

00:32:06.109 --> 00:32:07.890
really answering the question. Maybe it's not

00:32:07.890 --> 00:32:10.009
to be answered. I don't want to put you on the

00:32:10.009 --> 00:32:12.130
spot like that. No, because a lot of our prayers

00:32:12.130 --> 00:32:14.829
turn conversational, correct? We're more talking

00:32:14.829 --> 00:32:17.730
to him. Very much so. When you're walking Phoebe

00:32:17.730 --> 00:32:22.690
or when I'm driving down 87. It's conversational.

00:32:23.250 --> 00:32:27.549
So I'm more talking to him than creating a formal

00:32:27.549 --> 00:32:30.470
prayer. Because there's different kinds of prayer.

00:32:31.769 --> 00:32:33.890
So that's more conversational. And then just

00:32:33.890 --> 00:32:40.430
as a general observation, the disciples, they

00:32:40.430 --> 00:32:45.589
asked how to pray. They didn't ask, which by

00:32:45.589 --> 00:32:47.809
today's standards, I think we would have been,

00:32:48.250 --> 00:32:50.500
you know, Jesus. show me how to walk on water

00:32:50.500 --> 00:32:54.000
man show show me how to steal the stone man can

00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:56.380
you teach me how to make the blind man see could

00:32:56.380 --> 00:32:59.140
you could you give me the that's the thing where

00:32:59.140 --> 00:33:02.380
you make the guy get up and walk and like they

00:33:02.380 --> 00:33:05.660
knew they knew that the power yeah there is all

00:33:05.660 --> 00:33:10.200
in the prayer that's that this is This took me

00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:12.099
three and a half years to even start to figure

00:33:12.099 --> 00:33:14.519
this out. I'm like, oh, wait a minute. They had

00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:16.640
plenty of misses, trust me. I mean, you know,

00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:20.380
lots of misses. But there was some insight here

00:33:20.380 --> 00:33:23.660
when they really wanted to be taught how to do

00:33:23.660 --> 00:33:27.160
this. And I'm listening to the sound right now.

00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:29.480
It's just like, wow. I'm tuning it out. I'm like,

00:33:29.579 --> 00:33:33.259
I don't really hear that. I could probably make

00:33:33.259 --> 00:33:37.259
that go away with some AI post -processing. It's

00:33:37.259 --> 00:33:40.900
progress. I have done podcasts in the weirdest

00:33:40.900 --> 00:33:44.039
places with the weirdest ambient sounds and noises

00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:46.299
and no one ever really complains. The closets

00:33:46.299 --> 00:33:51.180
are the best. The Cloodio is the best sound ever.

00:33:52.099 --> 00:33:54.319
Sorry to get off topic there. It's all the distraction

00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:59.539
there. I think we do overdo it sometimes. I find

00:33:59.539 --> 00:34:03.269
myself trying to get simple again. And this is

00:34:03.269 --> 00:34:05.250
one of my defaults right here. So I go back to

00:34:05.250 --> 00:34:08.429
the Lord's Prayer, the model prayer. I do this

00:34:08.429 --> 00:34:12.449
several times a day. Also at night, I've started

00:34:12.449 --> 00:34:16.650
a new thing. I'm now reading prayers. I've never

00:34:16.650 --> 00:34:19.090
really... Out loud or just reading? Out loud.

00:34:19.250 --> 00:34:23.630
No, out loud. I use the prayer that avails much.

00:34:24.190 --> 00:34:27.449
And then someone recently gave me a book called...

00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:32.579
prayer of Americans or when Americans pray, and

00:34:32.579 --> 00:34:38.539
it's prayers by various people in public office,

00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:43.460
like Mike Huckabee or Haley McEnany or all these

00:34:43.460 --> 00:34:45.900
different people that have prayed. And some of

00:34:45.900 --> 00:34:48.219
the prayers are for America, we're praying for

00:34:48.219 --> 00:34:50.440
our president. But a lot of them are just real

00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:53.119
generalized and excellent book. I have to show

00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:55.099
you that book. Yeah, you gave me a book today.

00:34:55.260 --> 00:34:56.900
I didn't want to forget that. Yes, it's a different

00:34:56.900 --> 00:35:02.289
book. This is called... Forge the Sun by Bret

00:35:02.289 --> 00:35:06.030
Hahn. Did you meet him? No, I found him on Substack.

00:35:06.369 --> 00:35:08.530
I used to not pay a lot of attention to Substack.

00:35:08.590 --> 00:35:13.349
It's not exactly user -friendly. It's a little

00:35:13.349 --> 00:35:20.929
different. You got to dive in. I've got about

00:35:20.929 --> 00:35:23.710
300 subscribers there just from living up in

00:35:23.710 --> 00:35:26.630
a down world. When I switched over, it got me

00:35:26.630 --> 00:35:29.170
back into that world a little bit. And what I

00:35:29.170 --> 00:35:31.510
find about Substack is that people are writing.

00:35:32.769 --> 00:35:35.449
They're not just, these are not social media

00:35:35.449 --> 00:35:38.550
posts. These are people who really want to own

00:35:38.550 --> 00:35:42.429
their craft. And it's a very supportive community.

00:35:43.110 --> 00:35:45.650
I found him somehow stumbled on something he

00:35:45.650 --> 00:35:50.670
wrote and I just was like, whoa, this resonates

00:35:50.670 --> 00:35:53.659
with me. writes a lot about our early days, the

00:35:53.659 --> 00:35:56.679
founding of our country, but he's relating it

00:35:56.679 --> 00:36:00.780
to how they raised men, sons, how they forged

00:36:00.780 --> 00:36:05.250
them. I love the title, Forge the Sun. So I started

00:36:05.250 --> 00:36:07.170
reading his stuff and then I commented a couple

00:36:07.170 --> 00:36:09.809
of times. It turns out he's a listener and all

00:36:09.809 --> 00:36:13.030
that. No agenda. Listen to his bio. Brett Hahn

00:36:13.030 --> 00:36:15.849
is the founder of Amrev Resurrected and a son

00:36:15.849 --> 00:36:18.889
of the American Revolution. His seventh great

00:36:18.889 --> 00:36:21.210
-grandfather served in the New Jersey militia

00:36:21.210 --> 00:36:24.150
under General Washington. Isn't that cool? Yes,

00:36:24.389 --> 00:36:27.909
very cool. It looks like a great book. I'm definitely

00:36:27.909 --> 00:36:29.889
going to read that. You'll enjoy it. It's an

00:36:29.889 --> 00:36:32.210
easy read, but it's a series of essays, and he

00:36:32.210 --> 00:36:36.210
posts those on Substack. So every day or so,

00:36:36.210 --> 00:36:39.269
I think he's posting one a day up to the 250th.

00:36:39.730 --> 00:36:42.630
It's so good. I read one in bed the other night

00:36:42.630 --> 00:36:46.369
too. Can I read this to you? Sure. Well, she

00:36:46.369 --> 00:36:49.110
didn't know. It's kind of long. So she was almost

00:36:49.110 --> 00:36:51.210
snoring by the time we got done, but it was so

00:36:51.210 --> 00:36:54.880
rich and so good. So anyway, Brett, such a blessing,

00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:57.619
brother, to find your writings and, man, keep

00:36:57.619 --> 00:37:01.239
doing it. Keep teaching about our early days

00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:05.679
and our founding and how men were forged by hard

00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:09.380
times and by toil and by difficulty, but also

00:37:09.380 --> 00:37:11.619
living for a dream that was bigger than them.

00:37:11.739 --> 00:37:14.019
And what we can do today to replicate that. That's

00:37:14.019 --> 00:37:16.840
the whole point. That's the point, yeah. So the

00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:19.760
King and Queen of England are visiting us and,

00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:23.500
of course, they're being sent to Yorktown to

00:37:23.500 --> 00:37:26.199
see where they were defeated. Which is one of

00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:28.559
the funniest things. That was a great brief that

00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:31.139
you wrote for Sunday, by the way. And I cracked

00:37:31.139 --> 00:37:33.900
up big time when I read that. I was like, whoa.

00:37:34.019 --> 00:37:36.480
They're here to negotiate the terms of surrender.

00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:39.900
A handful of people got that. Yeah, I know. Some

00:37:39.900 --> 00:37:43.780
people did. Yeah, that was good. So there was

00:37:43.780 --> 00:37:46.360
a dinner last night, and they had the typical

00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:50.639
back and forth jokes. But by the way, you notice

00:37:51.210 --> 00:37:54.530
That there were no no Kings protests during his

00:37:54.530 --> 00:37:56.690
arrival all the King was here What I mean what

00:37:56.690 --> 00:37:59.210
an opportunity to go out there and say we don't

00:37:59.210 --> 00:38:04.389
want any Kings But he spoke to the joint joint

00:38:04.389 --> 00:38:07.829
houses of Congress and I watched it yesterday

00:38:07.829 --> 00:38:10.309
Mainly because there had already been kind of

00:38:10.309 --> 00:38:12.630
these setups I listened to a lot of the UK media

00:38:12.630 --> 00:38:15.769
like well, I should probably brought that clip

00:38:15.769 --> 00:38:20.260
We believe that the speech will be very good.

00:38:20.340 --> 00:38:22.820
It will go over Trump's head, but people will

00:38:22.820 --> 00:38:26.019
know what he really means. I'm like, okay. So,

00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:28.679
you know, that was your typical British media.

00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:33.079
But he brought something up. Now he is also the

00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:35.800
head of the Church of England, which now what

00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:38.659
do we know about the Church of England? It's

00:38:38.659 --> 00:38:42.019
called the Anglican Church. It was a split off

00:38:42.019 --> 00:38:44.340
from the Catholic Church, the Roman Catholic

00:38:44.340 --> 00:38:49.800
Church. They didn't want to submit to the pope.

00:38:50.059 --> 00:38:52.920
They wanted their head of the church to be the

00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:57.800
leader of the nation. There's a lot of similarities

00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:01.619
in terms of how they do what they do. There's

00:39:01.619 --> 00:39:04.539
a lot of theological similarities. Anyone who's

00:39:04.539 --> 00:39:09.179
Catholic or Anglican can correct me on any of

00:39:09.179 --> 00:39:11.719
this because I'm not an expert on that at all.

00:39:12.500 --> 00:39:15.900
One of my favorite human beings is a is a bishop

00:39:15.900 --> 00:39:18.840
in the Anglican church. He was in Africa for

00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:22.380
many years, now in his 70s. He's raising up pastors

00:39:22.380 --> 00:39:27.179
in countries I can't name because he's doing

00:39:27.179 --> 00:39:29.579
undercover work for the gospel, for the kingdom,

00:39:29.619 --> 00:39:34.239
and he is a fireball for Jesus in his 70s. So

00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:37.952
I've had great respect for some of the Anglican

00:39:37.949 --> 00:39:40.590
men that I've met through the years that are

00:39:40.590 --> 00:39:42.650
ministers. So the whole concept of separation

00:39:42.650 --> 00:39:44.730
of church and state doesn't go over very well

00:39:44.730 --> 00:39:46.570
there. You ever hear the Brits complain about

00:39:46.570 --> 00:39:49.309
that? No, I've never heard that statement reiterated.

00:39:49.429 --> 00:39:51.329
And we don't actually have it here either. No,

00:39:51.329 --> 00:39:55.610
we don't. But he did say something that I just

00:39:55.610 --> 00:39:59.789
thought was super curious, and I have an opinion

00:39:59.789 --> 00:40:02.289
about what he was saying. I'd love to hear yours.

00:40:02.289 --> 00:40:06.869
Here we go. And Mr. Speaker, for many here, and

00:40:06.869 --> 00:40:11.750
for myself, the Christian faith is a firm anchor

00:40:11.750 --> 00:40:16.110
and daily inspiration that guides us, not only

00:40:16.110 --> 00:40:36.110
personally... guides us not only personally,

00:40:36.289 --> 00:40:39.670
but together as members of our community. Having

00:40:39.670 --> 00:40:43.369
devoted a large part of my life to interfaith

00:40:43.369 --> 00:40:49.849
relationships and applause, yeah, wait for it,

00:40:50.070 --> 00:40:53.510
and greater understanding, it is that faith in

00:40:53.510 --> 00:40:57.329
the triumph of light over darkness which I have

00:40:57.329 --> 00:41:01.010
found confirmed countless times. Through it,

00:41:01.469 --> 00:41:05.230
I am inspired by the profound respect that develops

00:41:05.230 --> 00:41:08.909
as people of different faiths grow in their understanding

00:41:08.909 --> 00:41:21.849
of each other. It is why, which is my hope, my

00:41:21.849 --> 00:41:26.090
prayer, that in these turbulent times, working

00:41:26.090 --> 00:41:29.190
together and with our international partners,

00:41:29.750 --> 00:41:33.090
we can stem the beating of plowshares into swords.

00:41:42.140 --> 00:41:47.179
I am mindful that we are still in the season

00:41:47.179 --> 00:41:50.380
of Easter, the season that most strengthens my

00:41:50.380 --> 00:41:54.119
hope. It is why I believe with all my heart that

00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:57.320
the essence of our two nations is a generosity

00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:01.639
of spirit and a duty to foster compassion, to

00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:04.989
promote peace. to deepen mutual understanding

00:42:04.989 --> 00:42:09.130
and to value all people of all faiths and of

00:42:09.130 --> 00:42:13.849
none. Accentuated by some banging on the ceiling.

00:42:14.670 --> 00:42:18.349
The interfaith relationships, that kind of confused

00:42:18.349 --> 00:42:20.309
me. Like, what is he talking about? Do you think,

00:42:20.369 --> 00:42:23.190
I mean, is it just in general about living together

00:42:23.190 --> 00:42:26.090
with other, with people who have other beliefs

00:42:26.090 --> 00:42:30.059
and other faiths or none, or is he... There was

00:42:30.059 --> 00:42:32.440
a lot of criticism about this particular piece

00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:34.719
of the speech in the UK because he's talked about

00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.619
living in the season of Easter where he didn't

00:42:37.619 --> 00:42:41.500
say anything on Easter in the UK but did congratulate

00:42:41.500 --> 00:42:44.610
everybody on Ramadan. I didn't know that. Yeah,

00:42:44.710 --> 00:42:47.010
there's a little bit of strife about that. What

00:42:47.010 --> 00:42:49.050
was your impression over all of this? Well, I

00:42:49.050 --> 00:42:51.969
think in terms of what's happening in the UK

00:42:51.969 --> 00:42:56.670
with Islam coming in full force. Being brought

00:42:56.670 --> 00:43:00.389
in, drawn in full force. Unreal, open borders,

00:43:00.590 --> 00:43:04.110
if ever there were. And so I think he's probably

00:43:04.110 --> 00:43:06.650
alluding to that, but I don't know that for sure.

00:43:07.130 --> 00:43:11.690
But that would be the most obvious thing because

00:43:13.820 --> 00:43:16.099
Yeah, that's what he's doing. I think he's alluding

00:43:16.099 --> 00:43:20.780
to this crossing boundaries and whatnot and working

00:43:20.780 --> 00:43:24.659
together. What do we take away? You know, the

00:43:24.659 --> 00:43:27.280
first part of it, I was in on him. I mean, faith

00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.599
is a firm anchor, inspiration that guides us

00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:33.639
both personally. And yeah, I was all in with

00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:39.400
that. I don't know, you know, I mean, we're experiencing

00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:41.400
a lot of things here in the United States and

00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:45.460
Texas. Yes. There's a lot of Islamic fear and

00:43:45.460 --> 00:43:49.500
all that, that some is not merited. I think caution

00:43:49.500 --> 00:43:55.460
is merited, but not fear per se. So yeah, my

00:43:55.460 --> 00:43:58.280
takeaway though, if I'm leaning towards the first

00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:02.440
part of what he said, you know, hey, we know

00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:04.420
all about his life because we watched the crown.

00:44:04.980 --> 00:44:07.519
So we know everything. We know the whole deal

00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:12.260
inside and out, Charles. Accurate news. Literally,

00:44:12.340 --> 00:44:14.880
in my mind, I'm defaulting to the show when he

00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:16.920
was a kid and going to school. You can't help

00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:19.039
yourself but do that. I'm fighting it, going,

00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:25.119
this isn't helping me. Knowing lots of different

00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:27.139
things about his life, I'm thinking, was faith

00:44:27.139 --> 00:44:31.900
really an anchor then? It's hard not to think

00:44:31.900 --> 00:44:35.639
that way. I want to be positive. I want to live

00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:38.079
up and down world regarding that and just say,

00:44:38.539 --> 00:44:42.050
wow. appreciate what he said. You know, you want

00:44:42.050 --> 00:44:47.449
to value what people bring. Can you value something

00:44:47.449 --> 00:44:50.550
and affirm them without affirming their position?

00:44:51.170 --> 00:44:53.010
You know, that's always tricky. That's a good

00:44:53.010 --> 00:44:55.070
one because that's... You could hear the difference

00:44:55.070 --> 00:44:59.150
in the claps. I think during the interfaith part,

00:44:59.309 --> 00:45:01.130
that was only the Democrat side of the house.

00:45:01.590 --> 00:45:04.190
I'm pretty sure it was coming from probably the

00:45:04.190 --> 00:45:06.929
left. They were sitting left of stage. President

00:45:06.929 --> 00:45:08.869
Trump had a great joke. Again, I didn't bring

00:45:08.869 --> 00:45:10.510
the clips. He had a great joke last night at

00:45:10.510 --> 00:45:13.010
the dinner. He said, King Charles, you're so

00:45:13.010 --> 00:45:17.679
amazing. You spoke in Congress and even the Democrats

00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:19.719
stood for you. That's something I have not been

00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:23.679
unable to do. I love it. It's pretty funny. It's

00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:25.679
pretty funny. Anyway, for the most part, I thought

00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:27.800
it was great. The interfaith, I'm a little confused

00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:30.800
about just what he means by that because used

00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:36.159
to that was more of just pretty generic. I think

00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:38.280
with the rise of Islam and some of the scary

00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:43.679
things, hard things, I think it's got a different

00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:46.300
connotation now than it would have 20 years ago,

00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:50.139
30 years ago. I mean, I took it in a similar

00:45:50.139 --> 00:45:53.719
vein because I just, you know, so many dinner

00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:56.900
conversations, you know my stance on this, so

00:45:56.900 --> 00:46:00.460
many people like, oh, Islam's taking over. I'm

00:46:00.460 --> 00:46:02.179
like, well, yeah, there may be some problems,

00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:06.420
but please don't hate everybody you see who,

00:46:06.420 --> 00:46:11.159
you know, might be a Muslim. Right. Please, please.

00:46:12.410 --> 00:46:16.369
Pump the brakes on that a little bit because

00:46:16.369 --> 00:46:19.869
we just that that's the I think that just the

00:46:19.869 --> 00:46:22.710
enemy loves that like yeah Yeah, let's just stir

00:46:22.710 --> 00:46:25.530
up some hatred and and then we're all you know

00:46:25.530 --> 00:46:28.190
the enemies feeding on us again It comes back

00:46:28.190 --> 00:46:30.929
to our broad stroke Generalization. Yes, right.

00:46:31.130 --> 00:46:33.670
Yes, you know no more than then we want people

00:46:33.670 --> 00:46:36.570
to do that to us Yes, we have to give the same

00:46:36.570 --> 00:46:38.809
consideration to others. There's so many different

00:46:38.809 --> 00:46:42.070
groups I mean, it's Baskin -Robbins, you know,

00:46:42.150 --> 00:46:44.769
31 different flavors, you know, it's Heinz 54.

00:46:44.969 --> 00:46:48.050
I mean, there's so many aberrations within the

00:46:48.050 --> 00:46:50.670
Christian tradition, so many aberrations within

00:46:50.670 --> 00:46:53.849
the, you know, Islam tradition as well. And so

00:46:53.849 --> 00:46:57.849
it is dangerous to do broad stroke. I see a lot

00:46:57.849 --> 00:47:02.739
of that right now on both sides. Yeah, but I

00:47:02.739 --> 00:47:05.079
would be curious to hear someone who knows more

00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:08.500
about his stance on that, to bring clarity to

00:47:08.500 --> 00:47:10.440
that. I've been looking for it. It wouldn't surprise

00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:13.099
me if we got an email or two, a comment or two,

00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:14.860
of someone straightening this out, and I'm fine

00:47:14.860 --> 00:47:16.860
with that. I would hope so. I'd like to hear

00:47:16.860 --> 00:47:20.289
if someone knows a little more about. That. Where

00:47:20.289 --> 00:47:22.989
are the Anglicans listening? That's right. We

00:47:22.989 --> 00:47:25.250
want to hear from the Anglicans. Absolutely.

00:47:26.190 --> 00:47:28.650
Absolutely. Otherwise, brother, I got to tell

00:47:28.650 --> 00:47:31.150
you, things are looking good in the United States.

00:47:31.449 --> 00:47:33.610
I'm feeling good about what President Trump is

00:47:33.610 --> 00:47:36.289
doing. I'm unapologetic about my analysis of

00:47:36.289 --> 00:47:39.389
what he's doing. Your briefing was so good. It

00:47:39.389 --> 00:47:43.429
was fun to write. Fun to read. Because I'm like,

00:47:43.550 --> 00:47:49.460
this is just good. He's doing stuff that... I

00:47:49.460 --> 00:47:52.659
think it was, he's doing things for our grandchildren

00:47:52.659 --> 00:47:55.059
because he cares, you delivered it perfectly,

00:47:55.260 --> 00:47:57.659
because he cares more about that than poll numbers.

00:47:58.460 --> 00:48:02.719
And man, that is the truth. And in a weird way,

00:48:02.739 --> 00:48:06.460
and that kind of comes back to the book that

00:48:06.460 --> 00:48:11.019
Brett Hahn wrote, we are so self -centered on

00:48:11.019 --> 00:48:13.679
what's happening right now, the gas prices right

00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:17.000
now, my rent right now, the job I have right

00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:21.099
now. And we need a little, particularly as we

00:48:21.099 --> 00:48:25.960
are in the middle years of our lives, maybe over

00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:30.739
the halfway point, probably. I have a grandchild

00:48:30.739 --> 00:48:35.980
on the way. I am really like, you know, it's

00:48:35.980 --> 00:48:42.440
not great. I'm blessed beyond belief, but I've

00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.500
been on all sides of the wealth spectrum and

00:48:45.500 --> 00:48:48.639
I've given up worrying about that. But even if

00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:52.659
there's pain, it should not be for me anymore.

00:48:52.739 --> 00:48:56.400
It has to be for these coming generations. And

00:48:56.400 --> 00:49:00.619
when you put that lens on your view, of what

00:49:00.619 --> 00:49:02.800
President Trump is doing and what he's attempting

00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:05.320
to do. And if you listen to what he's saying,

00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:09.920
it really changes your attitude overall. Just

00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:14.099
like, yeah, that will be good if we have manufacturing

00:49:14.099 --> 00:49:17.780
come back, come roaring back in America. Now

00:49:17.780 --> 00:49:21.039
you still have to parse through his... bombastic

00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:23.679
rhetoric of, we're the hottest country right

00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:26.380
now, from his standpoint we are because he sees

00:49:26.380 --> 00:49:28.920
the investment coming in and that's not making

00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:31.300
a difference to us right now at this moment.

00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:35.820
So I just hope that people take some time to

00:49:35.820 --> 00:49:39.639
think about that. How do we form and have a category

00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:42.699
in our mindset? for forming, because a lot of

00:49:42.699 --> 00:49:45.159
what formed my generation and yours were hard

00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:49.000
things, hard times. We talked about 1974, oil

00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:52.199
embargoes, which was a big scam. Turns out it

00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.820
was fake. But man, it threw our country into

00:49:55.820 --> 00:50:00.380
just fear and fights at gas pumps. Man, it got

00:50:00.380 --> 00:50:03.739
crazy there. But how do we form and forge the

00:50:03.739 --> 00:50:07.139
next generation? Because here's what's the trick.

00:50:09.369 --> 00:50:13.130
them to have an easier time than we did. And

00:50:13.130 --> 00:50:18.110
that has produced soft men. It has produced,

00:50:18.110 --> 00:50:20.309
that's a broad stroke generalization, so if you're

00:50:20.309 --> 00:50:22.230
out there and you're tough, don't whip me up

00:50:22.230 --> 00:50:25.030
for that. But just, let's just say, generally

00:50:25.030 --> 00:50:28.590
speaking, it's produced a lack of resilience,

00:50:29.610 --> 00:50:32.710
a lack of perseverance and endurance, a lack

00:50:32.710 --> 00:50:37.110
of patience. It's produced a generation that

00:50:37.110 --> 00:50:39.949
would rather sit in their in their house or a

00:50:39.949 --> 00:50:42.030
coffee shop on their phone or their computer

00:50:42.030 --> 00:50:45.269
than actually be outside. I stood outside last

00:50:45.269 --> 00:50:48.510
night while I was grilling steaks and just looked

00:50:48.510 --> 00:50:51.230
around. And you know what I thought to myself?

00:50:51.610 --> 00:50:53.489
It's been too long since I just stopped and looked

00:50:53.489 --> 00:50:56.960
around. Because studying yesterday is on my screen.

00:50:57.179 --> 00:51:00.199
I got the upgraded version of Logos, so I'm nerding

00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:03.619
out over that because I'm just enjoying it. But

00:51:03.619 --> 00:51:06.079
I'm standing there looking around smelling smoke

00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:09.739
and going, oh my gosh, I miss this. But how do

00:51:09.739 --> 00:51:12.639
we forge the next generation? They have to feel

00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:16.139
it. If they feel no pain, they will never appreciate

00:51:16.139 --> 00:51:19.880
what they have in terms of this country. That's

00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:23.639
kind of where we're at. Well, I have similar.

00:51:25.610 --> 00:51:28.750
For the past couple of months, there's something

00:51:28.750 --> 00:51:32.429
about this particular time of year with the rains

00:51:32.429 --> 00:51:38.110
that we've had, and I still have some smell ability

00:51:38.110 --> 00:51:43.269
left in my senses. I've had all kinds of allergy

00:51:43.269 --> 00:51:45.150
things and all kinds of issues throughout the

00:51:45.150 --> 00:51:49.349
year, so it's diminished somewhat, but I remember

00:51:49.349 --> 00:51:54.340
the smells, the smell of the wet leaves, I stop

00:51:54.340 --> 00:51:56.599
and I listen to those. We're very fortunate.

00:51:56.659 --> 00:52:01.059
We have a great silent back road, quieter than

00:52:01.059 --> 00:52:04.280
the studio. My goodness, I know. Those guys are

00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:07.579
getting it done though. We need them to do it.

00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:12.780
And I hear the amount of birds. And I think probably

00:52:12.780 --> 00:52:15.619
the best thing you can do is get your kids into

00:52:15.619 --> 00:52:18.019
nature where there's no cell service, if possible.

00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:20.500
We have great national parks. It doesn't have

00:52:20.500 --> 00:52:23.980
to be an expensive weekend or whatever it is.

00:52:24.260 --> 00:52:28.059
And just sit and just walk in nature because

00:52:28.059 --> 00:52:32.920
that is God's creation. And I'm in awe. And it's

00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:36.260
been decades since I've even, as a kid, I remember

00:52:36.260 --> 00:52:38.159
like, wow, this is so cool. Look at this tree.

00:52:38.219 --> 00:52:40.889
Look at that tree. And now I'm like, wow, look

00:52:40.889 --> 00:52:43.469
at God's creation. Look at every blade of grass.

00:52:43.849 --> 00:52:47.170
Look at that cow over there. Smell the, I smell

00:52:47.170 --> 00:52:49.949
this, this fragrance from this tree, from that

00:52:49.949 --> 00:52:54.170
tree. You know, before we get into feeling the

00:52:54.170 --> 00:52:57.809
hard times, maybe just, it's like this dumb thing

00:52:57.809 --> 00:53:00.309
people say, oh, go touch grass. But there's kind

00:53:00.309 --> 00:53:02.690
of something to it. They're really grounding.

00:53:03.670 --> 00:53:07.949
But I get it. Surrounded and grounded. That's

00:53:07.949 --> 00:53:10.050
just my advice because this is working for me

00:53:10.050 --> 00:53:14.320
really well right now. Same thing you had. Yeah,

00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:16.380
I remember this and it takes me back man. It

00:53:16.380 --> 00:53:19.320
takes me back I remember what books I was reading

00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:23.139
about nature and American Indians and I learned

00:53:23.139 --> 00:53:27.219
how to build a Shanty a lean to I tried to build

00:53:27.219 --> 00:53:31.599
a wigwam not so successful made a lot of fire

00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:40.840
Yeah, so I was very fortunate to grow up in West

00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:45.389
Texas, which is a very Rural and cowboy culture,

00:53:45.809 --> 00:53:48.409
ranches everywhere, and farms everywhere. You

00:53:48.409 --> 00:53:51.070
had a horse called Midget. I know, two of them.

00:53:51.269 --> 00:53:55.809
I grew up around horses and tractors. Annette

00:53:55.809 --> 00:53:57.369
and I have been talking about that a little bit

00:53:57.369 --> 00:54:01.409
more lately of just how thankful we were to be

00:54:01.409 --> 00:54:04.469
raised in a more rural setting because it also

00:54:04.469 --> 00:54:06.750
makes me value and appreciate where we live in

00:54:06.750 --> 00:54:09.090
Fredericksburg, Texas and the Texas hill country.

00:54:10.099 --> 00:54:12.519
I love when a farmer rolls up in his old beat

00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:16.440
up truck. And he says, hey, I think it's going

00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:18.320
to rain today. I mean, that's the depth of your

00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:20.239
conversation. You know what though? That man

00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:23.699
is just, I love that stuff. I love small town.

00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:27.059
When we have people visit us and we go to a restaurant

00:54:27.059 --> 00:54:29.900
and 15 people call by name out, which happened

00:54:29.900 --> 00:54:32.960
the other day. They're like, man, you know everybody.

00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:35.260
I'm like, no, they just know me. I don't know

00:54:35.260 --> 00:54:38.239
everybody, but just because I'm pastor of the

00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:41.119
church. But I love it. I love walking into a

00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:43.360
restaurant or store and seeing people I know

00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:47.579
and just the exchange of life. People, come visit

00:54:47.579 --> 00:54:50.340
Fredericksburg. Come on. Come enjoy all of the

00:54:50.340 --> 00:54:52.860
beautiful things we have to enjoy. We have a

00:54:52.860 --> 00:54:57.219
Lady Bird Park. Yeah, State Park. So go hang

00:54:57.219 --> 00:55:00.619
out there. Check out some of the wineries. Not

00:55:00.619 --> 00:55:03.219
all of them. Some of them are drinking barns.

00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:06.360
Yeah, some of them are. All right, but let's

00:55:06.360 --> 00:55:08.639
land this plane. I love it. Thank you so much

00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:11.519
for taking time out of your busy and hectic day.

00:55:11.820 --> 00:55:13.659
Can I just thank our listeners one more time?

00:55:13.659 --> 00:55:17.239
Yes. Guys, ladies, thank you for listening. Thank

00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:21.579
you for sharing notes. We value you. We appreciate

00:55:21.579 --> 00:55:24.340
you and that you would give us time and we want

00:55:24.340 --> 00:55:26.679
to continue to encourage you and build you up

00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:28.940
in your faith. and your journey and your walk

00:55:28.940 --> 00:55:30.880
in Christ. Brother, I love doing this with you.

00:55:30.900 --> 00:55:33.920
I love doing it with you, brother. We'll be back

00:55:33.920 --> 00:55:36.059
next Wednesday. We get to do this. Take care,

00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:36.400
y 'all.
