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Let's pray. Let's pray more. Yes, father in Jesus

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name It's always a joy and a privilege to be

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before you on these microphones having a conversation

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with my best friend Thank you for Adam. Thank

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you that we get to do this. It's not just another

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cute saying it is a mantra It is a motto of life.

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It's a maxim So thank you Lord that we have the

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privilege of serving you but we also get the

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privilege of serving one another and serving

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people So we pray for our listeners today anyone

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who will stumble on this, maybe even by accident,

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which shall not be by accident, we ask that you

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would lead and guide people to this, and that

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what we say would do something in terms of putting

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lift under their wings. And Lord, we do it in

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the name of Jesus. Amen. Amen. It's Wednesday,

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April 8th. We get to do this. This is episode

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number 27. We get to do this. Well, hello, brother.

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I'm just adjusting my ears. Old man talk. Might

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as well start with what's happening. You're doing

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it right there on the phone. Yes, the ears are

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the most important part of the show. You know,

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technology is so fun. It's just cool. I mean,

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I can adjust my hearing on my phone. It's the

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coolest thing ever. There's really good things.

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There are good things. There's upsides and downsides

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to all of it. You preach the truth. And we're

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actually going to talk about some of the downside

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of technology, which thwarted the show last week.

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No kidding. I got to say, I love it. It's good

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and bad at the same time, but I love it when

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I walk in Sunday morning. It was a special morning,

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of course, because it's Easter. And people come

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up to me and say, what happened to the show?

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What happened to the show, man? What happened?

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I got a couple of emails too. Even Pastor Brian

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had people in his distant family saying, what

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will happen, man? Yeah, it's good. Yeah. So we

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had a little technology issue that we're dealing

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with. So we bought a new car. I bought Annette

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her dream car. I'd made her promise years ago

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when we were in a really... poor situation and

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we had to sell her car, her favorite car. And

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I did one of those commitments. I said, Hey,

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one day when we can, I'm going to get you the

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car of your dreams. And when we ended up doing

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that, it's a Lexus. Nice car. I was ready for

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a Bentley, but I know this is what she wanted.

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And we, we actually had the car built. I mean,

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we, we chose all the features and a, so it's

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got about 10 ,000 miles on it about a week and

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a half ago. I'm driving, pulling up to an intersection.

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Cargo's in full tilt forward mode. I mean the

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engine just full on. You're braking? I'm braking.

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I'm pulling up. I'm probably doing 10 miles an

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hour, 12. Just about to stop. Had enough room

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in front of me that I was able to pump the brake

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three times to cut the whatever was going on.

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It took three pumps to stop it. And then the

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engine died back down. Then it was acting normal.

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And we were on our way to see you guys at Calavance.

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Right. That's what happened. Oh, really? But

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you didn't even mention it then. Because I didn't

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think anything about it. We're guys. We're guys.

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It's an anomaly. Whatever. It's just a car thing.

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I literally never thought about it again until

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last Wednesday. Annette's just pulling into our

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parking spot up to our new building, our life

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center. Which hasn't even officially been opened

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yet. We had people in the building getting it

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ready for our grand opening and going to do a

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little open thing. So she's pulling up, five

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miles an hour, maybe not even that. Foot on the

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brake, because I actually tested it this morning.

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You can't pull into that parking space without

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riding the brake. No, you have to, yeah. Because

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you got to make a right turn and a left turn.

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She gets up almost to that little concrete bumper.

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The car does it again, full tilt forward. She

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jams on the brakes, her foot was already on the

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brakes. She just goes to the floor with it. And

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the car lurches over the concrete barrier into

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the building. Made a massive dent, but it also

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moved an interior wall, which damaged everything

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in two rooms, the ceiling, ceiling tiles fell

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out, cabinets broken. It was just unbelievable.

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Now, it wasn't quite like the cartoon where she

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was in the building, you know, looking at everybody

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on the other side. Thank goodness. Because she

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hit the wall square on the interior wall. Had

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she hit on either side of that, she would have

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gone into the building. Man. So, so she backed

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it up and was able to get the car and then she

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turned it off. Of course, fluids running out

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from under it. The front ends smashed. Did the

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airbag deploy? Did not, no warning lights. Here's

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what's weird about that. That's why I know this

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is an issue, a safety issue. If I'm pulling the

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car in the garage and it thinks, this car just

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thinks too much for one. I like to drive my car.

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It doesn't, it doesn't even let you look away

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too long. Oh no, it'll actually tell me, I was

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on the road. It tells me, sit up constantly.

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Sit up. I'm like, are you my mom? This is my

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mama here. Sit up. This car tells me, are you,

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are you're. driver driver and attention. If I'm

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like looking at a cow or something, you know.

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So anyway, when I'm pulling to my garage, if

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I'm like within a certain distance to the side,

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the car slams on its brakes and stops. I mean,

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it'll even pull up a big sign on the dashboard,

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which is all digital danger, danger. Yeah. Brake

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and big orange lights. Right. And so this car

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has all kinds of safety features. None of them.

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Airbag didn't deploy. Safety features didn't

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engage. Nothing. straight into the building.

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And so I actually texted you at that moment,

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said, hey, we on? Is the studio good? You're

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like, that's right. It was right before the show.

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It took you a few moments. I'm like, it's taking

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a while to get it. He says, no, Annette had an

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accident. It was happening. And Tina's standing

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over my shoulder. We're all flipping out. Like,

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what's going on? What do we need to do? And you

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said, no, it's OK. And then as we got the story

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and then, you know, there was just so much that

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you had to do and phone calls, insurance, everything

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just so. I've been on the phone this morning.

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You even wanted to come out on Friday morning.

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I wanted to, brother. Because it was Holy Week

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and everything. I know. I know. I got to say

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something about this Lexus slash Toyota issue.

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And I actually want to bring in the constitutional

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lawyer. Rob Carty and Boots and Suits and I'll

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tell you why because amazing this has been an

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ongoing issue with Toyota and Lexus since 2008

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and Because I know that some people here look

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stuff up and so I sent my robot out to go and

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find some stuff I got two clips which will first

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the first one is alarming you'll probably remember

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this when this happened this was 2009 and the

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sound bite is a little bit alarming but this

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is what it could have been you know so I'm really

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I'm deadly serious about how bad this is Toyota,

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which built its reputation on safety and quality,

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now says it knows how to fix the problem behind

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the biggest recall in its history. Yeah, this

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is actually, the scary clip is the other one,

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but this is the idea. The automaker will redesign

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accelerator pedals in four million Toyotas and

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Lexuses, including the Camry, America's top -selling

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car, 436 ,000 sold in 2008, and the Prius, the

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best -selling hybrid. The trouble is, in Toyota

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vehicles like this 2009 Tacoma pickup truck,

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the gas pedal can get tangled up in the floor

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mat, causing the vehicle to speed up, even if

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the driver pumps the brakes. It's not enough

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to stop. Five deaths have been blamed on this

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unintended acceleration, and the recall was prompted

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by a crash outside San Diego last summer that

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killed four family members. The family's horrifying

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last moments captured in this 911 call. The redesigned

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pedals will be ready for installation beginning

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next April. In the meantime, Toyota will recall

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the cars and shorten the accelerator three quarters

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of an inch, perhaps as early as January, so the

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mat can slide under it without trapping it. Simply

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put, Toyota's engineers weren't up to the job

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on this one. While Toyota says it's very, very

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confident the problem's been addressed, safety

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expert Clarence Ditlow says Toyota still has

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more work to do on the electronic connection

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between the throttle and accelerator pedal. Some

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of this is clearly... So, in 2008, 2009, this

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was called an electronic connection. You know,

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we weren't really thinking about computers at

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the time. The electronic controls in the vehicle.

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In fact, Toyota is doing more work. planning

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to install a system sometime next year so that

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if the brake and gas pedals are pushed at the

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same time, the brake wins. Jim Axelrod, CBS News.

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So what they're really not saying here, and we

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really didn't have that much knowledge at the

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time, is both the accelerator pedal and the brake

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pedal are not actually physically connected to

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anything. You're not hitting hydraulics. You're

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not hitting wires. It's all electronic sensors.

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Exactly. So this went on and of course the news

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was very different in 2008, 2009. We remember

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this, I remember the podcast and it was blamed

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on the accelerator getting stuck under the mat

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was the biggest lie in automotive history. Here's

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the second clip and then I have some interesting

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follow up to it. An emotional Akio Toyota assured

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thousands of workers in Japan today that his

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company has changed. But how much is debatable?

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Because over the last two weeks, more than 60

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Toyota owners in this country have complained

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of unintended acceleration even after their cars

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were recalled and supposedly fixed. Carolyn Kimbrell

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of Whitesville, Kentucky says her Avalon shot

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past her driveway mail box on its own and headed

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for the street before she turned off the engine.

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Exactly the same thing. That was February 28th,

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eight days after the prescribed fix. A metal

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shim was inserted into the pedal assembly to

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keep it from sticking near the floorboard. Golly,

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if I'd have been at a busy intersection or something,

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I could have went halfway through it before I

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got the car stopped. or ran over someone or something

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like that. So now I'm really scared to even drive

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it. In a statement, Toyota said it's taking such

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complaints seriously and has sent technical SWAT

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teams to investigate a handful of cases. All

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along, the company has insisted that despite

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what a growing number of critics claim, its computer

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-controlled throttle system is not to blame.

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Today, Congress said company documents fail to

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show that Toyota rigorously investigated that

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possibility. So there was a guy who investigated

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this on behalf of the court. And he found that

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in the computer system, which was running the

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accelerator and the brake at the time, there

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were 11 ,000 global variables, which is anyone

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who knows computer code will go, I know. He called

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it spaghetti code. And ultimately, Toyota wound

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up paying $1 .2 billion in 2010 dollars to avoid

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prosecution for misleading and deceptive statements

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to regulators. Now, what I believe has happened

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here is, first of all, praise God that this happened

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where it did happen and it could have been so,

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so, so much more severe. But when you start with

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a code base that has 11 ,000 variables and you've

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got spaghetti code, unless you really go back

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to the drawing board, stop your production for

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at least a year, two, maybe three years, you're

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living with that legacy. It's what we call technical

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debt. Wow. And it's still in there. The crazy

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thing is that it could also be at this point

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the type of chip that they're using. This recently

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happened on an aircraft. Do you remember when

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both engines shut off at the same time and the

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plane crashed? This is because they were using

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lower grade chips, which can, there's a bit can

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flip inside the chip based upon a cosmic ray.

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So literally, Sun radiation, which happens everywhere.

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And most of these systems are shielded, protected,

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certainly in aircraft, so that this can't happen.

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But they need to do that in their vehicles as

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well. And I got to be honest with you, brother.

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Like, I'm afraid for all kinds of stuff like

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this. I am too, at this point. Particularly the

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bit flip. The bit flip is just cheap. It's cutting

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corners. And you can sit there and go, well,

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you know, we had all the software right, but

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you know, the chip failed. Well, this has to

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be protected. So I think there's more work to

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be done on this. And no doubt. And, you know,

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I know that you're all going through a lot now

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with Toyota and insurance and all that. But we

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may want to investigate what can be done, not

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for for money or anything, but so that this doesn't

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happen to other people. This is just frightening.

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Well, I did a little research before I started

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making calls because, you know, there's code

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language. in this one of them, unintended acceleration

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is a code word. When I use that, my customer

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service rep just got very serious, but it was

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good because, and also, you know, that this is

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a, you know, it's a safety event. This is a catastrophic

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safety event. Had she been, you know, when I

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explained to the guy I was talking to that she

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was in a church parking lot and there could have

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been people, there could have been people in

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front of the car. I mean, so many things could

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have gone wrong. And this is why in the middle

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of this insanity, I'm praising God because the

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book of James tells us we're to count it all

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joy, my brother, when you fall into various trials.

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So I'm like, okay, we're in a trial right now.

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I've been on the phone and in the middle of the

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Superbowl weekend, which we call Easter, we call

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it the Superbowl weekend for churches, insanity,

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crazy busy. huge services, three services back

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to back. Then I get an emergency call. I run

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to Austin. I'm supposed to testify before the

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Texas State Board of Education. I was so far

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down the list, they didn't get to it yesterday.

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I would have had to stay overnight again tonight

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even to get on. But we were there for six hours

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listening to testimony about social studies and

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not having religion and Christian influences

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in our curriculum. That's another conversation.

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But there's some good things on the horizon for

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Texas in that regard, even though it was hard

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to listen to some of those testimony by people

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posing as pastors. Oh, really? Oh, the amount

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of woke pastors. I call them imposters. They're

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not pastors. They're imposters. They're not pastors.

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They're imposters. And they're, they're saying,

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we don't want anybody teaching our kids religion.

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We don't want anybody in schools. Yeah. School

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is not the place for, I mean, you know, in separation.

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I heard that term 15 or 20 times. And finally,

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a couple of people schooled them on that, which

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was amazing. Rick Green being one of them. Could

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you point to that in the Constitution, please?

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Oh, well, actually one of the board members,

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state board, fired back. Again, great conversation.

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And I learned a lot through this process. Good

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for us to be there. But in the middle of that,

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my phone's ringing from Houston, from Indiana,

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South Carolina. because we're trying to get this

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all taken care of, but it's just, man, it's just

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been a crazy few days of just travel, being in

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an environment that I can't answer a phone call,

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you know. So anyway, that's where we're at. I'm

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not whining. I'm counting at joy because it could

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have been so much worse. Exactly. Now after my

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joy counting, I'm saying now we need to do something

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about this. So that's where I'm at now of getting

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serious about getting this taken care of and

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our building taken care of. Because that delays

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our opening. Oh, huge. And, you know, the first

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thing, well, after, not the first thing went

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through my mind, after we know everything's okay

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and everybody's good. I'm like, you know, this

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Life Center, which is meant for children, basically,

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who are challenged. What is the term we're using?

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What is it? Now you threw me a curveball. I had

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it. I've been saying this for days. So it's for

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children with special needs. Special needs, there

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we go. And families that can't come to church

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because there's no one to help their children.

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And most churches aren't qualified to do that.

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We've got the qualifications. We've got the people.

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Now we have the building, but now it's being

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delayed in terms of what has to be fixed. And

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Leslie, who's been running a lot of this, Pastor

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Brian, other Pastor Brian, one of the five Pastor

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Brian's wife, she talked about this at church

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a couple of weeks ago, and she said, you know,

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this is the largest unreached group for faith,

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the largest. And so when I see this happen, all

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I can think is, Oh, the enemy's like, what, you're

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going to bring 10, 20, 30 kids to Christ? No,

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no, I got to stop this. And their families. And

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their families. Who can't come to church. Yes.

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Yes. So I'm like, wow, OK, not today, Satan.

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Not today at all. And that, honestly, that's

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been motivating me. That's that has energized

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me to not just get frustrated on these phone

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calls. I will say this about Toyota Lexus. They've

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been very congenial, very cooperative. They have

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returned calls. They set me up on a guest portal.

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You know how these are. It's like a little board,

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a little white board. And I'm actually documenting

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everything as we go. And I'm documenting it on

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the portal. Called, no answer. Called, returned

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call. I'm being generous and I want to work with

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them. I want to get this done. And so far, so

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good. Right. But there's other things that we,

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this is much bigger. This is what me and Annette

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are worried about. Other people driving a car.

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that is having similar issues. We're also going

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to send a letter to the Federal Traffic Administration.

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The Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Thank

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you. I can never remember the title. It's got

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a bunch of initials. So I've got that letter

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drafted and ready to fire off. And I told them

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I was sending it and that got their attention

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as well. Of course, yes. Of course, it's within

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your rights to do so, you know, reading off the

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script. But anyway, it's interesting. We're going

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to be fine. Everybody's going to be okay. Cars

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can be fixed, but she won't be. She does not

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want that car. No, I wouldn't either. I'm done.

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Yeah, I'm done. So I don't know. We'll do something

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different. Back to the Bentley, brother. There

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we go. Right now we're driving the beater. The

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beater is on the case. My beater. Just because

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everyone always wants to know what's our view

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on the world and what's happening in Iran. I

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pulled the clip. This is an old clip that represents

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the situation. President's f -bomb tie rate.

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Let me play this clip and maybe it fits right

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in with your theory. World Wrestling Federation

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Heavyweight Champion, Hulk Hogan, against the

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Iron Sheik. What? That's your surprise to me?

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Yes. Well, I'll tell you something. You show

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the match. You go ahead, Jack. And don't you

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ever pull no surprise on me again or I'll tighten

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your tie. Good for you, boy. We are going to

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go up to the ring right now. The introductions

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to our championship ball with the World Wrestling

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Federation Heavyweight Champion. So this was

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1984 Madison Square Garden, the Eye of the Tiger,

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Hulk Hogan, Rest in Peace, and the Iron Sheik

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from Iran. And when I saw what happened, that's

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all I could think of. I'm looking forward to

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your analysis of it. Oh, my absolute thought

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was, this is a power play. This is a calculated

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He did not just sit down and peck that out in

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30 seconds and send it off. This is calculated

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to say, I'm a nutcase. You better believe I'll

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do what I said I'm going to do. It's him going

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freaky on purpose. We already know this. Donald

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Trump does not care what anybody thinks about

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him. He doesn't care if a bunch of Christians

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are going to lose their mind because he's suddenly

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not walking in the boundaries. You know what

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I'm saying? And we need to get over all that

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stuff. This is a man who's trying to protect

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the globe right now. So give the guy some grace

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and cheer him on a little bit instead of getting

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upset because he used the F -bomb or threatened

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to annihilate a race of people. I read it and

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I went, whoa. At first I was like, this has got

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to be AI. So I actually fact -checked it with

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AI, of course, using ChatGBT. And it said the

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one I sent them was not the original, so they

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couldn't give a... accurate. So then I looked

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on Truth Social, which I actually still have

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an account with him. I've never used it, but

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I looked it up and sure enough, there it was.

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Find out it is true. But I know this is called

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strategic propaganda, where he literally throws

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something out there that sounds so crazy that

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it's going to make crazy people think he'll do

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it. And it worked. This is his algo. I actually

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think that he already had the deal in the pocket.

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I think that's part of it. He said they'd already

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been meeting. And we have two weeks. May I just

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say, I guarantee you there will be another event.

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Like this is going to happen. That's the algorithm.

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That's how it works We kind of forget the crazy

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rocket man. Hey little rocket man. The button

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on my desk works I don't mind pushing it, you

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know, we've forgotten about that. We forget so

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many things Yeah, but I truly believe he has

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he has figured it out the straight of four mooses

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today This is Wednesday, April 8th. The stock

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market opened 1300. That's okay, whatever but

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oil went down below 96 It takes time. It's going

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to be okay. And I've said this from the beginning.

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Now, is it a real war? Absolutely. Is war ugly?

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Do people die? Yeah, absolutely. This is actually

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something I wanted to talk about. We have our

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Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, who has been

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I like him, I have to say. I like Heg Seth, but

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he's been really laying it on pretty thick with

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the Scripture, etc. And I just want to play a

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few clips and discuss it because as a new Christian,

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and I'm sure others have this feeling, it's hard

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to... Put war and faith and God all into the

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same bucket, you know, and I and I see how the

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mainstream media Have actually posted lies which

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will say well, you know Trump's pastor said that

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he's fighting for Jesus and then she didn't say

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that nobody said that but here's I think this

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is the the Good Friday message from our Secretary

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of War He sent a message, God is good. Hegseth

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drew a parallel between his journey and the weekend

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holiday. You see, shot down on a Friday, Good

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Friday, hidden in a cave, a crevice, all of Saturday,

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and rescued on Sunday. Flown out of Iran as the

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sun was rising on Easter Sunday. Like it, but

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you know, it felt it feels a little cringy to

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me. It's cringy. Okay. It's not just me, right?

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It's like and there was some more here Secretary

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of War Pete hexes posted God is good. This is

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not something you you write on the back of an

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envelope These are contingencies that have to

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be prepared ahead of time and activated when

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something goes wrong so what went wrong is we

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had a pilot shot down right and the And the account

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that I have heard from my military contacts is

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pretty much what you've heard about the C -130s

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and how they flew in, how they got this pilot.

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The pilot was injured. And again, here's Hegseth

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recount of the communications with this F -15

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fighter pilot. When he was finally able to activate

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his emergency transponder, his first message

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was simple and it was powerful. He sent a message,

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God is good. In that moment of isolation and

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danger, his faith and fighting spirit shone through.

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You see, shot down on a Friday. Good Friday.

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Hidden in a cave, a crevice all of Saturday and

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rescued on Sunday. Flown out of Iran as the sun

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was rising on Easter Sunday. A pilot reborn.

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all home and accounted for a nation rejoicing.

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God is good. Pretty dramatic, but very good sermon.

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I mean, that's like sermon stuff right there.

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Sermon level. Sermon story. I may use that. But

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it just feels harsh. It is a little cringing.

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Because a lot of people will be... reaching out

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or saying stuff or slinging stuff. Well, of course,

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you know, this is your godly president and your

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secretary of war. Oh, I've already got stuff,

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to me. So as Christians, how do we respond to

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this? Help me even think how I feel about it,

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because war is in the Bible everywhere, and David

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prays to God, like, help me whoop my enemy's

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butt. And he does. How does it all fit together?

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Without getting too deep in the weeds on this,

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I'm going to read a scripture that you may have

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heard this before, especially if you were listening

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to music in the 60s and 70s. This is from Ecclesiastes

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chapter three. Are we doing some birds? We're

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doing some birds. Here we go. Here it is. It's

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one of those things we need to hearken back to

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and remember that the Old Testament was the New

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Testament concealed. The New Testament is the

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Old Testament revealed. They're not separate

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books. God and his storyline and his story arc

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made them work in harmony. So you don't say,

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well, now that Jesus has come, we throw away

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the Old Testament. When you do that, that turns

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into replacement theology real quick. And so

00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:35.299
it turns into a lot of bad things real quick,

00:27:35.980 --> 00:27:38.500
selective theology. So let's just read, I'm just

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going to read this. This is out of... the NIV

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1984 version before they went woke. So here it

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is. Before they got, we got to take all the pro

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downs out. Here we are. There's a time for everything

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and a season for every activity under heaven.

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A time to be born and a time to die. A time to

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plant and a time to uproot. A time to kill and

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a time to heal. A time to tear down and a time

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to build. A time to weep and a time to laugh.

00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:12.799
a time to mourn and a time to dance, a time to

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scatter stones and a time to gather them, a time

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to embrace and a time to refrain, a time to search

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and a time to give up, a time to keep and a time

00:28:22.539 --> 00:28:26.119
to throw away, a time to tear and a time to mend,

00:28:26.579 --> 00:28:29.539
a time to be silent and a time to speak. And

00:28:29.539 --> 00:28:33.500
it ends with this verse, a time to love and a

00:28:33.500 --> 00:28:38.079
time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace.

00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:41.579
I let the Scripture stand. You know, we can get

00:28:41.579 --> 00:28:43.900
into the weeds and start parsing out theology

00:28:43.900 --> 00:28:47.279
and nuances and phrases. And if we need to do

00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:49.019
that, we can do that as well. But at the end

00:28:49.019 --> 00:28:53.400
of the day, we live in a fallen world. It is

00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:57.019
not redeemed yet. And it means that there will

00:28:57.019 --> 00:29:02.039
always be love and hate, good and evil, peace

00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:04.690
and war. it's going to be that way. Well, there

00:29:04.690 --> 00:29:07.269
will always be wars and rumors of wars. Kingdom

00:29:07.269 --> 00:29:09.410
will rise against kingdom, nation against nation.

00:29:09.650 --> 00:29:15.089
That's Matthew 24. And that's kind of what's

00:29:15.089 --> 00:29:17.710
happening is there's people who say this have

00:29:17.710 --> 00:29:20.750
probably not read the Bible. Also, even if you

00:29:20.750 --> 00:29:22.190
read the Bible, you're not going to remember

00:29:22.190 --> 00:29:26.069
anything. We're on the third go -through now

00:29:26.069 --> 00:29:28.289
and like, oh, I don't remember that. What? I

00:29:28.289 --> 00:29:30.900
look at this differently now. Yeah. I mean, just

00:29:30.900 --> 00:29:33.299
in the New Testament, I mentioned this on Sunday,

00:29:33.500 --> 00:29:37.880
how many actual... Oh, prophecies have come true.

00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:41.119
Yeah. No, how many actual verses there are in

00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:44.099
the New Testament. Just in the New Testament,

00:29:44.500 --> 00:29:51.099
7 ,957 verses. Yeah. Memorize that. It's hard

00:29:51.099 --> 00:29:53.259
to stay on top of it, just like it's hard to

00:29:53.259 --> 00:29:56.539
step on top of the laws in our land and all that.

00:29:56.759 --> 00:29:59.079
So yeah, you got to go back. So there's another

00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:03.319
thing, and you brought this up in the Resurrection

00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:07.359
Day sermon, which I think is a better description

00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:09.900
of the day, but okay, Easter. Yeah, Rez Day,

00:30:10.220 --> 00:30:14.200
absolutely. Rez Day. You know what Rezing is?

00:30:14.660 --> 00:30:18.380
No. Oh, it's like in a video game where you die

00:30:18.380 --> 00:30:21.920
and then you come back, your resolution back

00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:24.299
is called Rezing. Interesting. Well, another

00:30:24.299 --> 00:30:27.740
term that's used for Rez is a band. Christian,

00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:29.380
one of the early Christian rock bands called

00:30:29.380 --> 00:30:32.460
the Resurrection Band. Then their name went to

00:30:32.460 --> 00:30:37.420
Rez Band. How come this is not on Hello Fred?

00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:40.799
I got to find these guys. Oh, brother, they rocked.

00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:42.740
I'll get the Rez Band. I can hook you up with

00:30:42.740 --> 00:30:46.700
some Rez Band, brother. Excellent. You brought

00:30:46.700 --> 00:30:52.359
up, say, you were talking about eschatology in

00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:55.539
the end times and how in 1988, you know, the

00:30:55.539 --> 00:30:58.720
book came out like Jesus is coming back in 1988

00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:04.259
and He didn't. And I find you always cautious

00:31:04.259 --> 00:31:07.900
about end times and talking about prophecy coming

00:31:07.900 --> 00:31:11.859
through, but coming true. But obviously we're

00:31:11.859 --> 00:31:14.460
one closer, one day closer to Jesus coming back

00:31:14.460 --> 00:31:18.559
today than we were yesterday. But it kind of

00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.259
hit me. that when you see what's going on in

00:31:21.259 --> 00:31:24.460
Iran and Elam and all the different prophecies

00:31:24.460 --> 00:31:30.339
that are in Scripture, and there's a lot of YouTube

00:31:30.339 --> 00:31:36.259
pastors, a lot of them, who really go all in

00:31:36.259 --> 00:31:40.099
like, this is it, we're getting close. I have

00:31:40.099 --> 00:31:42.880
a problem with this because to me that's like

00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:46.990
1988 book. And the whole point is we have to

00:31:46.990 --> 00:31:49.670
be ready. And you did this beautiful piece about

00:31:49.670 --> 00:31:52.710
the ten brides and the oil and the lamp, and

00:31:52.710 --> 00:31:54.630
half of them didn't have oil in the lamp. And

00:31:54.630 --> 00:31:57.049
the analogy is, you know, or the parable is clear.

00:31:57.430 --> 00:32:00.589
We have to be ready for Jesus' return. But if

00:32:00.589 --> 00:32:04.230
we keep watching YouTube people who are telling

00:32:04.230 --> 00:32:06.450
us that it's here, it's here, it's almost here,

00:32:06.470 --> 00:32:08.690
we're in these times, aren't we setting ourselves

00:32:08.690 --> 00:32:12.970
up to actually fail and not be prepared? Or is

00:32:12.970 --> 00:32:15.599
this something that keeps people repaired as

00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:17.519
long as you keep watching it. I mean, I don't

00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:21.460
know. I got problems today, Pastor Jimmy. I got

00:32:21.460 --> 00:32:24.380
issues with what's happening. Please, this is

00:32:24.380 --> 00:32:26.660
why I'm here, brother. So, first of all, you

00:32:26.660 --> 00:32:29.079
have to embrace the tension of how we live. You

00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:31.599
know, we're living towards something that we

00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:33.420
know is inevitable. It's going to come if we

00:32:33.420 --> 00:32:35.940
believe the Bible, if we believe what He said

00:32:35.940 --> 00:32:39.700
is true. We have some substantiation and some

00:32:39.700 --> 00:32:41.900
solid ground. You know, there were over 300 biblical

00:32:41.900 --> 00:32:44.940
prophecies. of Jesus' birth, of His first coming,

00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:46.980
right? The Messiah's coming. And they were all

00:32:46.980 --> 00:32:49.460
fulfilled in Jesus. In hundreds of years of time.

00:32:49.500 --> 00:32:53.299
Right, over time. Exactly. Exactly. They waited

00:32:53.299 --> 00:32:57.880
a long time. There are also 2 ,400 biblical prophecies

00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:00.900
of Jesus' second coming. So think about the disparity

00:33:00.900 --> 00:33:06.079
there. 300 for His birth, 2 ,400 for His return.

00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:09.059
Now, some of these weren't specific prophecies.

00:33:09.059 --> 00:33:12.779
It's how it's mentioned in Scripture. So, saying

00:33:12.779 --> 00:33:14.480
it's going to happen, but it might not have been

00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:16.339
a prophet saying it's going to happen. You know

00:33:16.339 --> 00:33:18.160
what I'm saying? It's mentioned by Paul. It's

00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:20.259
mentioned by Timothy. It's mentioned by, I mean,

00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:23.099
you go through the New Testament book of Revelation.

00:33:23.700 --> 00:33:28.240
So, 2 ,400 mentions of Jesus' second coming.

00:33:28.500 --> 00:33:32.519
That's a pretty big disparity. 324, which says

00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:36.460
to me, this is not just inevitable. It is not

00:33:36.460 --> 00:33:39.480
probable. It is inevitable. It's happening. It's

00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:42.500
coming. Now, when it's coming, Jesus doesn't

00:33:42.500 --> 00:33:46.579
even know. He even said, the reason is because

00:33:46.579 --> 00:33:49.759
he's the son of the father and in the Hebrew

00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:53.359
wedding tradition, the son didn't know when it

00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:55.440
was time to go get the bride until the father

00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:58.220
told him. That's why Jesus used that analogy

00:33:58.220 --> 00:34:01.420
several times and even talking to his disciples

00:34:01.420 --> 00:34:04.220
at the Last Supper, he says, not even the son

00:34:04.220 --> 00:34:08.159
of man knows. He said, but my father, he said,

00:34:08.179 --> 00:34:12.860
I go away to prepare a place for you. In my father's

00:34:12.860 --> 00:34:16.019
house are many rooms, not mansions. We're not

00:34:16.019 --> 00:34:19.500
getting a six story Elon Musk house. We know

00:34:19.500 --> 00:34:25.340
when we get there. So I know, sorry. You're getting

00:34:25.340 --> 00:34:27.300
a bridal chamber because that's exactly what

00:34:27.300 --> 00:34:29.119
he's talking about. And all of course, they knew

00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.199
what he was talking about. We have to figure,

00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:33.179
you have to get context and we got to learn it.

00:34:33.500 --> 00:34:36.900
Right. So, so he goes away to build this house.

00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:40.280
And in the Jewish tradition, it could be up to

00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:42.360
a year, which that's a long time after you've

00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:44.460
proposed and now you're betrothed and legally

00:34:44.460 --> 00:34:46.739
married. Do you know, even during the betrothal

00:34:46.739 --> 00:34:48.539
period, if they decided to split, they had to

00:34:48.539 --> 00:34:51.579
get a legal divorce. They could not by law, they

00:34:51.579 --> 00:34:54.800
were legally bound just through their commitment

00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:57.139
to that. And they drank a cup of wine over it

00:34:57.139 --> 00:35:01.980
to literally solidify the covenant. Yeah, probably.

00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:06.980
Theirs is pretty good. So anyway, we see the

00:35:06.980 --> 00:35:10.559
setup here. What can we do to protect our hearts

00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:14.119
from disappointment? Okay. All right. I got that.

00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:16.960
Again, you got to live in tension. You got to

00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:19.300
live with an element of mystery. Jesus said we

00:35:19.300 --> 00:35:22.840
walk by faith, not Jesus. Paul said we walk by

00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:26.880
faith and not by what? Sight. Sight. But we live

00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:30.219
with expectation toward the future. but we trust

00:35:30.219 --> 00:35:33.940
God with it and its timing. If Jesus Himself

00:35:33.940 --> 00:35:36.340
doesn't know the timing, only the Father, then

00:35:36.340 --> 00:35:38.800
Jesus Himself is waiting to hear, get the call.

00:35:39.340 --> 00:35:41.619
He's on call. I mean, it's going to happen. This

00:35:41.619 --> 00:35:44.679
beeper is going to go off, right? Old school.

00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:47.739
It's going to go off. It's going to happen. Oh

00:35:47.739 --> 00:35:50.679
wait, I got a 911 on my beeper. I got to make

00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:53.059
the call. It's time. Hello old people who are

00:35:53.059 --> 00:35:54.980
listening. You know what we're talking about.

00:35:55.239 --> 00:35:57.360
Wow. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to

00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.159
go off. It's going to happen. So here's the deal

00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:03.880
though. When you live with expectation, You can

00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:06.460
get into a weird place where now it's gonna be

00:36:06.460 --> 00:36:08.360
today or it's gonna be tomorrow or I've looked

00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:10.980
through the Gregorian calendar I've looked through

00:36:10.980 --> 00:36:13.559
the Jewish calendar the Roman calendar blah blah

00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:17.300
blah, and I've calculated it I mean come on if

00:36:17.300 --> 00:36:19.300
Jesus didn't know you think you're gonna get

00:36:19.300 --> 00:36:21.079
it figured out you're not you're gonna solve

00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:23.780
the puzzle That's where I struggle with a lot

00:36:23.780 --> 00:36:26.900
of these guys and gals that are just constantly

00:36:26.900 --> 00:36:29.360
saying well according to this it's gonna line

00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:32.550
up and I'm like That's way above my pay grade

00:36:32.550 --> 00:36:35.789
and frankly, it's above theirs too. Now he did

00:36:35.789 --> 00:36:38.170
say, you'll know the seasons. In other words,

00:36:38.869 --> 00:36:42.349
there's a sense where we begin to see world events

00:36:42.349 --> 00:36:46.090
and we can go, it's closer. And that's as far

00:36:46.090 --> 00:36:50.210
as I'm going to postulate. It's closer. Can you

00:36:50.210 --> 00:36:54.170
imagine? World War I, American Revolution. I

00:36:54.170 --> 00:36:55.949
mean, can you imagine you start going back through

00:36:55.949 --> 00:37:00.199
history? The Crusades, I mean, you go back through

00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:02.480
all that and you start to, or the war between

00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:06.239
Islam and the Christian. Sure, all that back,

00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:09.059
the historic wars, people had to be saying, this

00:37:09.059 --> 00:37:11.599
is it. I'm glad you brought that up. We got a

00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:14.539
note from one of our newer listeners who lives

00:37:14.539 --> 00:37:20.469
in Bahrain. Wow. His name is Mohammed. And I've

00:37:20.469 --> 00:37:22.750
been in touch with him for quite a while. Very

00:37:22.750 --> 00:37:26.710
cool. He lives there with his family, and he

00:37:26.710 --> 00:37:28.329
knows a lot of what's happening in the region.

00:37:28.409 --> 00:37:30.730
And he's been listening to the show. He's Muslim,

00:37:30.789 --> 00:37:33.989
and I wanted to share what he said. Brother,

00:37:34.130 --> 00:37:36.190
I enjoy your conversation with Pastor Jim. You

00:37:36.190 --> 00:37:38.590
find it fascinating how much we share in common,

00:37:38.969 --> 00:37:41.289
unlike the nonsense you hear from the mainstream

00:37:41.289 --> 00:37:44.630
media. We as Muslims believe in Jesus's message

00:37:44.630 --> 00:37:46.929
and his teachings. I personally find Christianity

00:37:46.929 --> 00:37:49.909
the closest religion to Islam and Jesus as one

00:37:49.909 --> 00:37:53.030
of the most beloved figures we have. I always

00:37:53.030 --> 00:37:55.849
saw true conservative American values as some

00:37:55.849 --> 00:37:58.190
of the most realistic representations of what

00:37:58.190 --> 00:38:00.789
Muslims should become. Greeting strangers with

00:38:00.789 --> 00:38:03.130
a smile, close families supporting each other

00:38:03.130 --> 00:38:05.929
in need. My mother used to have a view of American

00:38:05.929 --> 00:38:09.019
people as immoral and indecent aggressors. Her

00:38:09.019 --> 00:38:11.380
whole worldview changed when she visited Florida

00:38:11.380 --> 00:38:13.780
and was thrilled by all the cheerful and good

00:38:13.780 --> 00:38:17.139
Americans asking how she's doing. I'm a big fan,

00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:19.239
but you don't know how happy I am to see you

00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:21.900
following Christ, hearing about your experience

00:38:21.900 --> 00:38:24.099
and your newfound relationship with God brightened

00:38:24.099 --> 00:38:26.820
my life. I worry a lot about abundance, which

00:38:26.820 --> 00:38:29.460
rots the soul. I see this wherever someone orders

00:38:29.460 --> 00:38:32.039
a meal with a side of salad he doesn't even eat,

00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:34.260
but when a fast food restaurant throws 12 packs

00:38:34.260 --> 00:38:37.320
of ketchup in my bag. Whenever we are vacationing

00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:39.400
in the US, my wife and I always pack the rest

00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:41.800
of our food whenever we eat outside. We give

00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:44.179
this to random Latino workers, homeless guys

00:38:44.179 --> 00:38:47.059
or park attendees. The response we get is wild.

00:38:48.639 --> 00:38:53.460
And then he sent me a Hadith, which is peace

00:38:53.460 --> 00:38:55.380
from the Quran. It's a verse from the Quran.

00:38:55.420 --> 00:38:58.019
Cool. And, you know, I always say to be understood,

00:38:58.420 --> 00:39:00.380
you first must seek to understand and vice versa.

00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:04.860
And this is just a few lines. You're smiling

00:39:04.860 --> 00:39:07.760
in the face of your brother is charity. You're

00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:09.739
commanding what is right and forbidding what

00:39:09.739 --> 00:39:12.679
is wrong is charity. You're guiding a man in

00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:15.579
a land of misguidance is charity. You're helping

00:39:15.579 --> 00:39:18.840
a man with a weak eyesight is charity. You're

00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:21.599
removing a stone, a thorn or bone from the road

00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:24.639
is charity. You're pouring from your bucket into

00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:26.780
the bucket of your brother's is charity. And

00:39:26.780 --> 00:39:28.900
I like that last one, of course, because of leaky

00:39:28.900 --> 00:39:32.989
buckets. All this to say, I really, I love this

00:39:32.989 --> 00:39:37.150
guy. I appreciate that he sent that. There's

00:39:37.150 --> 00:39:40.530
a lot going on in Texas right now. You can find

00:39:40.530 --> 00:39:46.050
Christians who are insane. You can find followers

00:39:46.050 --> 00:39:50.170
of Islam who are insane. Absolutely. Just beware

00:39:50.170 --> 00:39:52.829
of the person who's actually talking to you.

00:39:52.849 --> 00:39:58.789
It's not all one group. Totally agree. And when

00:39:58.789 --> 00:40:01.269
I read this, it's like, I just want, I want to

00:40:01.269 --> 00:40:03.650
share that. I appreciate Mohamed sent that to

00:40:03.650 --> 00:40:06.389
us. I do too, Mohamed. Thank you for, for connecting.

00:40:06.489 --> 00:40:08.849
Feel free to write me. Love to, love to engage

00:40:08.849 --> 00:40:10.449
with you, brother. Oh, we definitely want to

00:40:10.449 --> 00:40:11.969
bring him to Jesus Christ. I mean, well, I'm

00:40:11.969 --> 00:40:16.349
on a mission and he's not getting off that. Speaking

00:40:16.349 --> 00:40:19.650
of cool people, Beau wrote me, and Beau, I just

00:40:19.650 --> 00:40:21.469
want to say I've not written you back because

00:40:21.469 --> 00:40:25.250
my last five to seven days have been insane.

00:40:26.130 --> 00:40:30.320
So he reminded me that some pickles, came your

00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:32.940
way. Oh, I have not received pickles yet. Oh

00:40:32.940 --> 00:40:34.619
no, I have not seen them. He did. And he said

00:40:34.619 --> 00:40:40.059
to make sure until Adam and Tina that those pickles

00:40:40.059 --> 00:40:43.940
are for all of us. Oh, okay. Like I would be

00:40:43.940 --> 00:40:46.639
hoarding them and like, pickles? I didn't see

00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:49.059
any pickles. I'm not going to lie. I would be

00:40:49.059 --> 00:40:52.400
tempted, brother. They're that good. And also

00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.780
he wants us to be sure and share some of those,

00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:59.280
apparently several, with others. give the good

00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:02.199
news of Jesus. Thank you, Bo. And I'm so sorry

00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:04.239
I didn't write you back, brother. In fact, it's

00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:06.880
been like a weight on me. I've got to get back

00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:09.300
with him because he's such a neat guy. And I

00:41:09.300 --> 00:41:11.059
love his heart and what he's doing with this.

00:41:11.420 --> 00:41:13.280
Who would have thought it? Pickle ministry. I

00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:16.420
mean, that's something. I love that. It's like

00:41:16.420 --> 00:41:18.420
Devo's and Donuts, you know, there's got to be

00:41:18.420 --> 00:41:20.380
a way that we can help him distribute some of

00:41:20.380 --> 00:41:22.880
these pickles, you know, pay him fairly for it

00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.380
because I think he deserves it and I want to

00:41:25.380 --> 00:41:28.860
bless him. Yeah, absolutely. And they're also

00:41:28.860 --> 00:41:32.699
extremely tasty. Unbelievable. I think there's

00:41:32.699 --> 00:41:35.719
something in them that creates something, some

00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:37.940
massive dopamine release or something, because

00:41:37.940 --> 00:41:41.400
you take a bite and you're like, I can't just

00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:45.619
eat once. It's like eating Pringles, man. You

00:41:45.619 --> 00:41:48.659
can't eat just one. Very different in quality.

00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:52.119
I'm talking about the addiction. The addiction

00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:54.559
level. The addiction is real. Hey, thanks for

00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:57.159
bringing all this up. I want to kind of maybe

00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:00.989
close the loop on this. Yeah, please. It's so

00:42:00.989 --> 00:42:04.210
easy to jump on the YouTube, you know, jump on

00:42:04.210 --> 00:42:07.449
YouTube and start getting caught up. And then

00:42:07.449 --> 00:42:09.929
once you watch one, your whole feed is going

00:42:09.929 --> 00:42:12.090
to fill with this stuff, right? The algos kick

00:42:12.090 --> 00:42:15.269
in. I just want to share with all of our friends,

00:42:15.550 --> 00:42:18.889
be careful. There's a great scripture in 1 Samuel

00:42:18.889 --> 00:42:21.730
that talks about David's mighty man. You know

00:42:21.730 --> 00:42:23.929
where I'm going with this. And he says, they

00:42:23.929 --> 00:42:26.869
were like the men of Issachar who understood

00:42:26.869 --> 00:42:30.059
the times and knew what to do. And by the way,

00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:32.800
it was one of the smallest group of men, of David's

00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:34.820
mighty men, but they were the ones he went to

00:42:34.820 --> 00:42:38.010
the most because of their knowledge. and their

00:42:38.010 --> 00:42:40.130
wisdom. It's not just knowledge that'll get you

00:42:40.130 --> 00:42:42.590
through, it's wisdom, which is the ability to

00:42:42.590 --> 00:42:45.769
take knowledge and apply it practically to life.

00:42:46.510 --> 00:42:49.849
And so we want to be of those who are wise, not

00:42:49.849 --> 00:42:52.469
just knowledgeable, but wise. I've met a lot

00:42:52.469 --> 00:42:56.849
of brainiacs that couldn't put together a ballpoint

00:42:56.849 --> 00:43:00.030
pen if it fell apart. I mean, they had a lot

00:43:00.030 --> 00:43:02.590
of information, a lot of knowledge, but if you

00:43:02.590 --> 00:43:06.559
have no practical wisdom and we... For me, faith

00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:10.159
works in real life. In fact, our little magnet

00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:12.699
that we made for cars, I came up with that little

00:43:12.699 --> 00:43:15.179
thing where faith meets life. It's on the side

00:43:15.179 --> 00:43:18.119
of my car, brother. I'm rocking it. Actually,

00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:20.079
it's on a net sitting out there with a big dent

00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:22.300
on the back of it, but I've got to put it on

00:43:22.300 --> 00:43:24.480
the side of my car because I got the same issue.

00:43:24.539 --> 00:43:27.260
I can't put it on the back. It's plastic, apparently.

00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:29.719
I just took it on there and I let go and it fell

00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:31.559
to the ground. I'm like, what just happened?

00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:34.679
My car is not metal? Anyway, but I just want

00:43:34.670 --> 00:43:38.090
say we have to walk with wisdom, not just knowledge.

00:43:39.809 --> 00:43:42.429
We call it discernment. That's the ability to

00:43:42.429 --> 00:43:45.329
kind of parse out the bad and the good and to

00:43:45.329 --> 00:43:47.110
weigh it out. That's another way to say that

00:43:47.110 --> 00:43:49.949
is to put it in the balance. As you're watching

00:43:49.949 --> 00:43:53.409
these YouTube videos, just know there are people

00:43:53.409 --> 00:43:56.170
who want Jesus to come back so badly right now

00:43:56.170 --> 00:43:57.969
that they're going to say things and it's going

00:43:57.969 --> 00:44:00.690
to cause them to go over the line, I would call

00:44:00.690 --> 00:44:04.239
it. where they sort of lose. And we've seen people

00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:06.860
through the years, as a Christian of 40 plus

00:44:06.860 --> 00:44:10.480
years, I've seen people literally go into debt

00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:12.880
and let their debt go and they quit paying on

00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:15.000
it because they literally thought he was coming

00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:18.519
back. People who've moved up into a commune or

00:44:18.519 --> 00:44:20.539
a mountain, you know, just, I want to be that

00:44:20.539 --> 00:44:24.659
much closer. I'm getting rid of everything. And

00:44:24.659 --> 00:44:30.250
that's not wisdom. No. Now wisdom says this,

00:44:30.610 --> 00:44:33.630
we know Jesus is coming back. We know we're one

00:44:33.630 --> 00:44:36.070
day closer than we were yesterday. Yeah. And

00:44:36.070 --> 00:44:38.989
it could be today. Cause I will say this, I believe

00:44:38.989 --> 00:44:42.329
biblically the stage is set. I think we're there,

00:44:42.489 --> 00:44:45.110
but it could be another century. Yeah. You know,

00:44:45.150 --> 00:44:48.510
for God a blink. Yeah. I mean, come on, what

00:44:48.510 --> 00:44:51.150
could that be? Right. Yep. Uh, so I was talking

00:44:51.150 --> 00:44:53.769
about this. Somebody, somebody gave me a prophetic

00:44:53.769 --> 00:44:56.690
word. You know, everybody sees these things differently,

00:44:56.690 --> 00:44:59.269
but back when I lived in California, Our worship

00:44:59.269 --> 00:45:01.510
pastor was walking through our chapel where I

00:45:01.510 --> 00:45:04.289
was setting up to have 200 youth in our youth

00:45:04.289 --> 00:45:06.429
group that night. I was setting up the band and

00:45:06.429 --> 00:45:08.489
he walks through and he stops and looks at me.

00:45:08.610 --> 00:45:10.409
We already planned to move to Texas and plan

00:45:10.409 --> 00:45:13.489
a church. And he goes, Jimmy, he goes, can I

00:45:13.489 --> 00:45:15.289
give you a word from God? I said, man, lay it

00:45:15.289 --> 00:45:17.829
on me, brother. Hold on. Can you let me just

00:45:17.829 --> 00:45:20.389
hit record? Yes. I said, yeah, go ahead. And

00:45:20.389 --> 00:45:23.230
he said, he said, I was praying for you and Annette

00:45:23.230 --> 00:45:27.050
as y 'all moved back to Texas. He said, I see

00:45:27.050 --> 00:45:30.130
1200 people. in your church. And I actually saw

00:45:30.130 --> 00:45:33.309
the building and inside it, you had stands going

00:45:33.309 --> 00:45:36.690
up in the back. No way. For real. He said that.

00:45:36.690 --> 00:45:40.409
Wow. And I said, thanks bro. Appreciate it. And

00:45:40.409 --> 00:45:43.110
he went on about his business. I thought about

00:45:43.110 --> 00:45:45.550
that this weekend when we saw, you know, over

00:45:45.550 --> 00:45:48.230
1200 people in church on Sunday. And the seats

00:45:48.230 --> 00:45:50.150
go up in the back here. And the seats go up in

00:45:50.150 --> 00:45:52.960
the back. And it was like, And we were talking

00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:54.840
about in the staff meeting, because Brian remembered

00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:57.099
that word. I'd shared that before years ago.

00:45:57.219 --> 00:45:59.059
And he said, I couldn't help but think about

00:45:59.059 --> 00:46:01.760
that word that you got in California back in

00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:06.760
the 90s. And it took this much time. And I said,

00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:10.239
that was less than a blink for God. We think

00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:13.440
it takes so long, but for God, that was nothing,

00:46:13.539 --> 00:46:17.780
right? So just in terms of when he's coming back,

00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:20.780
don't get so caught up in the wind. Just be ready

00:46:20.780 --> 00:46:25.039
now. Be found doing what He's called you to do,

00:46:25.099 --> 00:46:28.820
what He's led you to do, walking with Him. Be

00:46:28.820 --> 00:46:31.019
found doing that. That's what we mean by get

00:46:31.019 --> 00:46:34.599
ready. And the way I see it, I'm going to meet

00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:37.760
Him no matter what. It's a win -win. You live

00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.179
a good life. I know where I'm going. I know I'm

00:46:40.179 --> 00:46:42.820
going to see Him. You're not living on this with

00:46:42.820 --> 00:46:45.400
this guilt and shame saying, gosh, I've got to

00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:47.000
get my act together. I mean, what if He does

00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:49.539
come back? Well, Maybe tomorrow, I'm going to

00:46:49.539 --> 00:46:50.980
eat and drink and be merry right now. Like I

00:46:50.980 --> 00:46:53.380
told the story about being in a pickup with my

00:46:53.380 --> 00:46:56.539
friends with a whole case of Lone Star beer.

00:46:56.900 --> 00:46:58.800
And we're all talking about God with a dash on

00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.679
the Bible. I mean, a Bible on the dash. Yeah.

00:47:01.900 --> 00:47:04.340
It's kind of comical to think these four boys

00:47:04.340 --> 00:47:06.579
in high school, right around getting drunk after

00:47:06.579 --> 00:47:09.679
a financial, no, it was an FCA meeting, Fellowship

00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:11.539
of Christian Athletes. And we're talking about

00:47:11.539 --> 00:47:13.760
Jesus. And we're all saying, yeah, someday we're

00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:17.219
going to get right with God. One of them. Ran

00:47:17.219 --> 00:47:20.420
his motorcycle underneath a parked semi Wow,

00:47:20.820 --> 00:47:25.300
and there was three instead of four and Suddenly,

00:47:26.199 --> 00:47:28.940
I mean that kid that that young man did not wake

00:47:28.940 --> 00:47:31.139
up that morning thinking I'm gonna die tonight.

00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:36.480
No You know, nobody does no very few do so Okay,

00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:38.719
you just took me on a downer there, Pastor Jimmy.

00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:42.900
Hey, but the upper hits, the other three in that

00:47:42.900 --> 00:47:47.500
truck, we're all with Jesus. Even that, that

00:47:47.500 --> 00:47:50.300
was a wake -up call for us, you know. So, be

00:47:50.300 --> 00:47:56.740
ready. You know, on the Godcaster, we have every

00:47:56.740 --> 00:47:58.920
digital station. So we have Bridge Church and

00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:01.519
Hello Fred, and we have all these different podcasts

00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:04.699
and they're promoted. And so all of these promos

00:48:04.699 --> 00:48:06.719
come through on my screen every morning and I

00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.099
have to approve them. And if I don't like how,

00:48:09.099 --> 00:48:11.980
honestly, the AI wrote the script and voice it,

00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:15.159
I'll either go remix it or delete it, whatever.

00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:19.320
We also have focus on the family. The daily focus

00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:22.550
on the family with Jim Daly, which is... It's

00:48:22.550 --> 00:48:25.829
a good it's a good show and and and I'll just

00:48:25.829 --> 00:48:27.630
want to finish because we we've gone a little

00:48:27.630 --> 00:48:29.329
long today But I want to finish with this because

00:48:29.329 --> 00:48:33.150
we've talked so much about AI and how And how

00:48:33.150 --> 00:48:35.809
to deal with it and how to look at it and how

00:48:35.809 --> 00:48:38.690
to talk about it and how to use it And he had

00:48:38.690 --> 00:48:41.530
a really interesting interview with a guy in

00:48:41.530 --> 00:48:46.730
Abdul Murray Who is he's an evangelist? He is

00:48:46.730 --> 00:48:51.309
the author of fake ID how AI and identity idolat

00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:55.019
ideology are collapsing reality. And he had some

00:48:55.019 --> 00:48:58.739
really solid advice and solid things to say.

00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:00.219
And I wanted to share that because I thought,

00:49:00.219 --> 00:49:02.760
you know, everyone is kind of struggling with

00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:05.039
how do we even you and I talked about all the

00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:08.340
time. It's like, well, I use AI for this. But

00:49:08.340 --> 00:49:10.559
I but I but I did it this way. You know, it's

00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:12.760
like I didn't actually let it take over my life.

00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.730
I mean, I find myself making these excuses all

00:49:15.730 --> 00:49:17.230
the time. I hear you. I do the same thing. You're

00:49:17.230 --> 00:49:19.210
like, butta, butta, butta, butta, butta. But,

00:49:19.750 --> 00:49:21.889
yeah. So here he is. This is the first kind of

00:49:21.889 --> 00:49:23.849
but thing, which is interesting. And this is

00:49:23.849 --> 00:49:25.250
the fundamental distinction I think we should

00:49:25.250 --> 00:49:29.949
make, is that AI doesn't create. AI generates.

00:49:30.369 --> 00:49:31.789
And there's a fundamental difference between

00:49:31.789 --> 00:49:34.090
creation and generation, is that when you look

00:49:34.090 --> 00:49:36.070
at what an AI does, and you can create a painting.

00:49:36.150 --> 00:49:38.010
And in fact, one of the things that got me interested

00:49:38.010 --> 00:49:40.250
in this topic in the first place was a guy named

00:49:40.250 --> 00:49:43.289
Jason Allen. It was big news about a few years

00:49:43.289 --> 00:49:46.230
ago, I should say, he won first prize in an art

00:49:46.230 --> 00:49:48.250
contest. In the digital art category, he won

00:49:48.250 --> 00:49:50.789
first prize with a painting that was remarkable.

00:49:51.389 --> 00:49:53.590
Turns out, he used Mid Journey, which is an AI

00:49:53.590 --> 00:49:55.789
-generated software to make it. He just typed

00:49:55.789 --> 00:49:58.730
in prompts, didn't put pen to paper, brush to

00:49:58.730 --> 00:50:00.469
canvas, none of that stuff, just created this.

00:50:00.510 --> 00:50:02.590
And the artist got upset about it and said he

00:50:02.590 --> 00:50:04.570
shouldn't win first prize, but he kept his first

00:50:04.570 --> 00:50:08.030
prize. And when I saw the painting, I thought,

00:50:08.329 --> 00:50:10.170
well, that's remarkable. What does that say about

00:50:10.170 --> 00:50:12.889
what it means to be human? And then you realize

00:50:12.889 --> 00:50:15.489
these things don't work by creating a painting.

00:50:15.869 --> 00:50:18.489
The AI wasn't inspired. He had to prompt it.

00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:20.300
That's the first thing. It didn't do it by itself.

00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:22.699
He had to prompt it. The second thing was it

00:50:22.699 --> 00:50:26.380
took samples of millions if not billions of paintings

00:50:26.380 --> 00:50:28.780
that human beings did. Right, the whole inventory

00:50:28.780 --> 00:50:30.920
it would look at. Exactly. And then cobble that

00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:32.960
stuff together using a sophisticated algorithm

00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:36.000
and put an output out. So it didn't create. It

00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:38.019
used people who did create and it generated.

00:50:38.500 --> 00:50:41.219
So no matter how sophisticated and how impressive

00:50:41.219 --> 00:50:44.139
this thing looks, it's not actually creating

00:50:44.139 --> 00:50:46.340
anything. It still doesn't do what you and I

00:50:46.340 --> 00:50:50.420
do. That made me feel good. Solid distinction

00:50:50.420 --> 00:50:53.780
there. You know, it doesn't create, it generates.

00:50:54.300 --> 00:50:56.539
I like that. And we're actually part of the creation

00:50:56.539 --> 00:50:59.880
process by prompting. So that is where that comes

00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:02.340
from. Now he has some other, he has some cool

00:51:02.340 --> 00:51:05.079
little phrases we can stick into our arsenal

00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:07.900
as well. AI can do that very, very easily because

00:51:07.900 --> 00:51:10.719
we use it for efficiency sake. Okay, I wrote

00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:12.880
something and I got to get it down from 1 ,500

00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:16.199
words to 1 ,300 words. Hey, can you help me pick,

00:51:16.460 --> 00:51:18.760
suggest, words to remove and it does that you're

00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:20.239
like great that was so great i would have spent

00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:22.360
two hours editing this thing now i spent a half

00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:26.039
an hour i got 90 minutes back and uh that's wonderful

00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:28.860
and thank goodness for that but then you're busy

00:51:28.860 --> 00:51:30.940
again, and then you use AI to say, hey, I have

00:51:30.940 --> 00:51:33.760
an outline for an essay I created. Can you write

00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:36.579
this thing? I'll edit that. And then, hey, I

00:51:36.579 --> 00:51:39.119
need an outline for an essay. And then it creates

00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:41.400
the essay for you. And before you know it, you've

00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:44.579
seductively engaged in the same kind of thing,

00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:46.920
the tyranny of small decisions you were using

00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:49.260
with fast food, now you're using with AI. So

00:51:49.260 --> 00:51:52.380
the issue is AI can be very, very beneficial,

00:51:52.380 --> 00:51:54.940
but it's like digital fast food. Before you know

00:51:54.940 --> 00:51:57.519
it, you've used it to do everything for you.

00:51:57.579 --> 00:51:59.820
And what's interesting as well is the research

00:51:59.820 --> 00:52:03.320
that's coming out from OpenAI, from MIT, from

00:52:03.320 --> 00:52:05.219
Microsoft itself. These are the people who are

00:52:05.219 --> 00:52:08.019
making this stuff. They have put out research,

00:52:08.099 --> 00:52:10.420
and it's all in its nasancy. It's kind of early.

00:52:10.780 --> 00:52:14.199
But it shows you that the more you use AI for

00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:17.159
original content, for original thinking, the

00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:20.079
more you use it, the more cognitive debt you

00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:21.800
incur. And cognitive debt is just a fancy way

00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.659
to say, essentially, that our critical thinking

00:52:24.659 --> 00:52:28.719
goes down, our memory actually is impaired. Our

00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:31.320
sense of judgment is impaired. And what's interesting

00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:34.760
is the more you use the voice features, the lonelier

00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:38.219
you get. They were reporting that a high number

00:52:38.219 --> 00:52:40.699
between one in four and one in five people under

00:52:40.699 --> 00:52:43.079
the age of 25 were reporting an inability to

00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.920
make any decision at all without first asking

00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:48.860
an LLM like chat, GPT, what should I do? Where

00:52:48.860 --> 00:52:51.119
should I go? So that dependency is there. It

00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:54.340
creates a tremendous dependency. Digital fast

00:52:54.340 --> 00:52:57.340
food. Wow, great verbiage there. This is a good

00:52:57.340 --> 00:52:59.760
way to look at it. Yeah. Because we all like

00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:05.139
a burger, but you can't eat burgers and Chick

00:53:05.139 --> 00:53:08.519
-fil -A all your life. Okay, did I just make

00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:12.840
you feel real bad now? No, no, I'm fully aware

00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:14.900
of everything he said. I'm in agreement with

00:53:14.900 --> 00:53:19.019
that. Yeah. Which is a real caution for us. I've

00:53:19.019 --> 00:53:21.480
told you that I like to pray before I use it.

00:53:21.500 --> 00:53:26.380
I don't go into like a 15 minute diatribe. I

00:53:26.380 --> 00:53:29.739
just like, Lord, you know, as I, and I don't

00:53:29.739 --> 00:53:31.380
do that for the little things. Like if I'm looking

00:53:31.380 --> 00:53:34.460
up, you know, who's the dog on Hudson and Rex

00:53:34.460 --> 00:53:36.920
and who trained it? To me, that's Google stuff.

00:53:37.980 --> 00:53:40.559
But when I'm actually using it in terms of helping

00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:42.980
me with research or whatever, I do pray. And

00:53:42.980 --> 00:53:45.280
I just, it's a very quick, just Lord guide me

00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:48.039
through this Lord. Because I don't want to get

00:53:48.039 --> 00:53:51.719
so dependent on it. It's a great tool. And so

00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:55.800
as with any good tool, there's a tendency to

00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:58.360
where, man, that Crescent wrench doesn't just

00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:00.159
do this. It can do this too. You know what I

00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:02.960
mean? You find a thousand uses for a Crescent

00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:05.280
wrench, right? Or vice grips, as we've talked

00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:08.480
about. You like the vice grips. That's the all

00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:11.059
around tool, right? You can take off any screw

00:54:11.059 --> 00:54:12.840
with that. It may not get you back on, but you

00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:16.500
can get it off. It nurls everything up. But you

00:54:16.500 --> 00:54:19.400
know, that's the idea there. I so agree with

00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:24.300
that and great. Yeah, digital fast food and cognitive

00:54:24.300 --> 00:54:26.619
debt. Yeah, that was really good. That's a big

00:54:26.619 --> 00:54:29.179
one because that's exactly. Tyranny of small

00:54:29.179 --> 00:54:32.820
decisions was another one I like. He's got one

00:54:32.820 --> 00:54:36.139
more zinger for us as the last one. I'm so happy

00:54:36.139 --> 00:54:38.820
that Jim Daly had this. And I met Jim Daly the

00:54:38.820 --> 00:54:42.460
other day in a meeting. I'm like, he's a great

00:54:42.460 --> 00:54:45.719
guy. He's sharp, man. Very, very sharp. So anyway,

00:54:45.820 --> 00:54:47.500
here we go. You make a distinction. You talk

00:54:47.500 --> 00:54:52.420
about AI mania. Bioclasm. It's a great word,

00:54:52.699 --> 00:54:54.780
bioclasm. It sounds like something out of Star

00:54:54.780 --> 00:54:58.099
Trek. But what is bioclasm? Yeah, and I have

00:54:58.099 --> 00:55:00.519
some Star Trek references in the book. There

00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:04.119
are some good illustrations there. So, bioclasm.

00:55:04.409 --> 00:55:07.050
is a slightly different, it's got the same effect,

00:55:07.150 --> 00:55:09.070
but a slightly different topic than the AI mania,

00:55:09.110 --> 00:55:10.809
but there's a confluence of these two things

00:55:10.809 --> 00:55:13.949
at the same time. So you have this word iconoclasm.

00:55:14.489 --> 00:55:17.349
So an iconoclast is someone who takes the icons

00:55:17.349 --> 00:55:21.050
of tradition that uphold a certain cultural way

00:55:21.050 --> 00:55:24.170
we look at things. So for example, the icon of

00:55:24.170 --> 00:55:27.210
New York City was the yellow cab. You know, they

00:55:27.210 --> 00:55:29.750
were everywhere. They were more numerous than

00:55:29.750 --> 00:55:32.190
the regular cars. Before Uber. Before Uber. Uber

00:55:32.190 --> 00:55:35.170
came and it was an iconoclast because it destroyed

00:55:35.170 --> 00:55:38.269
the image of New York by removing the yellow

00:55:38.269 --> 00:55:40.130
cabs and replacing them with everybody's cars.

00:55:40.690 --> 00:55:43.510
So that was an iconoclastic thing. It destroyed

00:55:43.510 --> 00:55:45.889
the icon of what New York is and made a new thing.

00:55:46.889 --> 00:55:50.769
Bioclasm is iconoclasm with biology. It takes

00:55:50.769 --> 00:55:53.429
biological givenness, the thing that makes human

00:55:53.429 --> 00:55:56.840
beings, male and female, created an image of

00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:59.960
God, smashes that, and says, you are your own

00:55:59.960 --> 00:56:03.400
God, and your biology is not a given thing. Your

00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:05.139
body's not a prison, it's a plaything, and you

00:56:05.139 --> 00:56:07.840
can do what you want with it. And I think that

00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:10.440
does take advantage of the very vulnerable in

00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:13.440
our society, those who have various, whether

00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:16.039
it's underlying comorbidities, a mental illness,

00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:19.800
or gender dysphoria, and says, don't worry about

00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:21.440
that, that's not a problem, that's actually a

00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:23.260
gift, and you can become this God -like being

00:56:23.260 --> 00:56:25.909
who can... dictate what reality actually is.

00:56:26.130 --> 00:56:28.630
That's bioclasm and it's become an ideology.

00:56:28.909 --> 00:56:31.789
It's not just an option. It's an ideology that's

00:56:31.789 --> 00:56:36.010
enforced. This is where the danger lies. Another

00:56:36.010 --> 00:56:38.230
level right there. That's where the danger lies.

00:56:38.889 --> 00:56:41.010
So we just, we got to be aware of this all the

00:56:41.010 --> 00:56:44.150
time. And brother, I got to tell you, I mean,

00:56:44.230 --> 00:56:48.789
I have really found some incredible tool -like

00:56:48.789 --> 00:56:55.699
uses for AI. As have I. I'm a lot less anti -AI

00:56:55.699 --> 00:56:59.860
than I was, but I have really pushed myself past

00:56:59.860 --> 00:57:03.179
any barrier of having any kind of conversation.

00:57:03.460 --> 00:57:06.760
I just do this, do that. I don't say thank you.

00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:09.980
I don't say please, because that's when you get

00:57:09.980 --> 00:57:13.940
into a relationship without even knowing it.

00:57:14.219 --> 00:57:18.329
And it's dangerous. It's not good. So I just

00:57:18.329 --> 00:57:21.130
say, do this, do that and boom. So I told my

00:57:21.130 --> 00:57:23.789
daughter Faith, she does all of our digital production,

00:57:24.289 --> 00:57:27.010
manages our website. It's real easy to get a

00:57:27.010 --> 00:57:29.130
blurb or throw something in there and she's really

00:57:29.130 --> 00:57:32.889
good at it. But I told her, I said, treat this

00:57:32.889 --> 00:57:36.409
thing like it could go away tomorrow. Don't become

00:57:36.409 --> 00:57:39.309
dependent on it to where you can't write a blurb

00:57:39.309 --> 00:57:42.409
or you can't write a script or whatever for a,

00:57:42.710 --> 00:57:45.679
or you can't generate an idea. create an idea.

00:57:45.739 --> 00:57:47.719
It's a good distinction between create and generate.

00:57:48.179 --> 00:57:50.699
So you can't create an idea for a video that

00:57:50.699 --> 00:57:53.800
you're depending on it to lead you down that

00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:55.980
track. And she said, no, that's the way I think.

00:57:56.059 --> 00:57:58.719
And I've told her what you've said, enjoy it

00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:01.659
while we have it. It may not go away, but it

00:58:01.659 --> 00:58:03.559
may get so expensive that you can't afford it.

00:58:03.639 --> 00:58:07.440
I mean, it may move into that. That was my biggest

00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:09.420
fear because I put together a whole production

00:58:09.420 --> 00:58:12.480
workflow. And I'll tell you what it really does,

00:58:12.500 --> 00:58:16.260
which is great. because I have some large, powerful

00:58:16.260 --> 00:58:18.219
machines that can do this for me. I run everything

00:58:18.219 --> 00:58:20.440
at home pretty much, so I'm not dependent on

00:58:20.440 --> 00:58:23.699
anybody, but I still am to some degree. So like,

00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:26.679
go get a transcript from this podcast that I

00:58:26.679 --> 00:58:29.300
don't have two hours to listen to, make a summary,

00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:32.320
tell me what's in it. Okay, pull that clip. And

00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:33.980
it's actually doing clips. I mean, it's amazing.

00:58:34.099 --> 00:58:37.500
This is great. But my first immediate fear was,

00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:40.639
Wow, what if all of a sudden this stuff that

00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:43.159
is only 20 bucks a month is gonna be $2 ,000

00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:45.260
I would still pay for it because that would be

00:58:45.260 --> 00:58:48.099
worth it in my job Right. What if the company

00:58:48.099 --> 00:58:51.059
just goes away because I'm bankrupt. Yeah, and

00:58:51.059 --> 00:58:54.519
I don't think either of those will happen But

00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:57.539
there's bumpy times ahead and there's we should

00:58:57.539 --> 00:59:00.639
we should treat it as though it's a tool Yeah,

00:59:00.780 --> 00:59:03.780
and it could go away. It's something that could

00:59:03.780 --> 00:59:06.420
not be there tomorrow and could you still function?

00:59:06.670 --> 00:59:08.630
It's like the vice grip. You'll get the bolt

00:59:08.630 --> 00:59:12.090
off. Come on. You may not get it back on. All

00:59:12.090 --> 00:59:14.690
around tool. Hey, brother, it's good to be back

00:59:14.690 --> 00:59:16.929
on the mic radius. Always. Always. May we love

00:59:16.929 --> 00:59:18.710
our people, don't we? We do. See you next week,

00:59:18.849 --> 00:59:19.130
everybody.
