WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.640 Father, in Jesus' name, it's always a privilege 00:00:02.640 --> 00:00:06.179 to be before you as a son, before a good father. 00:00:06.419 --> 00:00:08.400 So Adam and I come to you this morning. We pray 00:00:08.400 --> 00:00:11.220 for all of our friends and listeners that will 00:00:11.220 --> 00:00:14.839 be hearing this podcast. We ask, Lord, that you 00:00:14.839 --> 00:00:18.640 would open their hearts to a deeper and more 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:20.739 meaningful relationship with you as they continue 00:00:20.739 --> 00:00:24.839 on their journey of faith. And Lord, we say this, 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:27.239 we mean it. It's become the title of this podcast, 00:00:27.339 --> 00:00:29.460 but we get to do this and we're thankful for 00:00:29.460 --> 00:00:33.420 it in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. It's Wednesday, 00:00:33.500 --> 00:00:37.420 March 11th, 2026. We get to do this. This is 00:00:37.420 --> 00:00:56.100 episode number 24. We get to do this. You notice 00:00:56.100 --> 00:00:58.799 how pro we are now. We just come in. We sit down. 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:01.000 You're still cleaning your screen. Boom. We pray. 00:01:01.240 --> 00:01:04.000 We're into the show. It's like we're just rocking 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:05.939 and rolling here, brother. Rocking and rolling. 00:01:06.099 --> 00:01:08.019 I'm telling you. Is that the sound of a pro? 00:01:08.700 --> 00:01:11.900 Yes. It reminds me a little bit of... back in 00:01:11.900 --> 00:01:14.540 my radio days, you know, you come in two minutes 00:01:14.540 --> 00:01:17.840 before, you got all your stuff. The other guy's 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:20.480 still there. You know, he's like cleaning his 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:22.799 stuff out of the desk. That's what Matt Long 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:25.540 does. Totally. Matt's like, oh, yeah, we got 00:01:25.540 --> 00:01:29.420 30 seconds. We should go in. Go sit down. They're 00:01:29.420 --> 00:01:31.260 in a container, which makes it even funnier. 00:01:31.459 --> 00:01:34.900 I love those studios. I do too. It's old school. 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:37.299 Patriot FM here in the Hill Country. Yeah, yeah. 00:01:37.420 --> 00:01:40.120 I love it's old school because it's got dirt 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:43.260 on everything, and then all kinds of stuff on 00:01:43.260 --> 00:01:47.120 the walls. It's nasty. It really is. It's a shed. 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:49.219 Yeah, and it's lived in. It's just lived in. 00:01:49.219 --> 00:01:51.319 But you know what? Those guys, they do a great 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:55.099 job with what they got. And of course, Matt Long's 00:01:55.099 --> 00:01:58.319 daily podcast on the Godcaster, Bridge Church. 00:01:58.500 --> 00:02:00.659 Hello, Fred, whichever station you choose. It's 00:02:00.659 --> 00:02:04.040 all there. Brother, what a week it's been. It 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:07.420 has been quite, especially for you and Dave Manette 00:02:07.420 --> 00:02:10.240 and Mr. Chevy. Mr. Chevy's had a rough go of 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:12.439 it. You know, we came off of being sick three 00:02:12.439 --> 00:02:14.780 weeks. I mean, we're just like in recovery mode, 00:02:14.780 --> 00:02:17.599 right? Getting our back in the office, which 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:22.280 I loved being back. And then he jumps off the 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:25.139 bed on like Thursday, which he's done for 10 00:02:25.139 --> 00:02:29.939 years of his life. About two days later, it didn't 00:02:29.939 --> 00:02:31.840 happen immediately, but I know how this goes 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:34.120 because I have back issues too. Not anymore. 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:36.539 I mean, very rare. Stop jumping off the bed, 00:02:36.699 --> 00:02:38.620 Pastor Jimmy. I need to quit jumping off too, 00:02:38.860 --> 00:02:41.900 or off the back of the couch. Anyway, he's a 00:02:41.900 --> 00:02:44.439 little poodle mix. He's called a have a Sean. 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:48.479 So he's a poodle mix, white, little fragile guy, 00:02:48.699 --> 00:02:50.800 10 years old, but thinks he's one and a half. 00:02:51.500 --> 00:02:54.419 He loses his mind, runs off. So he jumps off 00:02:54.419 --> 00:02:56.520 the bed in the morning. As you know, in the morning, 00:02:56.560 --> 00:02:59.360 we're a little creaky, you know? Snap, crackle, 00:02:59.460 --> 00:03:03.319 pop. That's what I sound like. Exactly. Exactly. 00:03:04.099 --> 00:03:06.199 So anyway, a couple of days after that, we just 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:09.340 noticed him acting weird. I mean, he was like 00:03:09.340 --> 00:03:14.680 starting to whimper and then he just diminished 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:18.080 quickly. I mean, like so by the weekend, it was 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:21.960 getting bad. Sunday, Annette had to stay home 00:03:21.960 --> 00:03:23.199 with him. It was awful. He didn't even come to 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:25.960 church. It was awful. He was screaming. You know, 00:03:26.020 --> 00:03:28.300 I've only heard a dog scream a couple of times 00:03:28.300 --> 00:03:30.000 and it was when I was younger and I had to put 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:33.060 a dog down and it was heartbreaking and hard. 00:03:33.740 --> 00:03:36.740 There's a sound. Humans make it too. I've been 00:03:36.740 --> 00:03:39.099 in hospitals when my brother got hit by a car 00:03:39.099 --> 00:03:42.340 and broke his femur and I just remember the sound 00:03:42.340 --> 00:03:44.719 coming out of him. Never had heard it before, 00:03:44.819 --> 00:03:46.580 haven't heard it since. Same way with a dog, 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:49.590 you know, or any animal that's Feels like they're 00:03:49.590 --> 00:03:52.909 dying in the moment, you know, so he was screaming 00:03:52.909 --> 00:03:56.490 out in pain He lost the use of his back legs 00:03:56.490 --> 00:03:59.189 Then how do you take him out to go to the bath? 00:03:59.189 --> 00:04:04.270 I mean it just got bad. Yeah, and so by Sunday 00:04:04.270 --> 00:04:08.449 Sunday night was terrible. So She stayed home 00:04:08.449 --> 00:04:11.189 Monday. We're thinking all right, we're gonna 00:04:11.189 --> 00:04:13.889 turn the corner because we did have meds from 00:04:13.889 --> 00:04:17.230 he did the same thing last year But this was 00:04:17.230 --> 00:04:19.490 way worse. Last year was the first injury. But 00:04:19.490 --> 00:04:21.449 you know, you know this about a human body or 00:04:21.449 --> 00:04:23.610 an animal. The more you do it, the more it's 00:04:23.610 --> 00:04:25.370 going to hurt, the longer it'll take to recover. 00:04:25.389 --> 00:04:27.410 Now he's prone to that, right? And at his age. 00:04:27.870 --> 00:04:30.569 So we had meds. We had methyl carbinol. We had 00:04:30.569 --> 00:04:33.329 pain med. We had prednisone. I mean, stuff - 00:04:33.329 --> 00:04:36.149 You were giving your dog meth? Really? Methyl 00:04:36.149 --> 00:04:38.209 carbinol. Oh, I'm sorry. It's a really good muscle 00:04:38.209 --> 00:04:43.029 relaxer that doesn't make you loopy. Sorry, I 00:04:43.029 --> 00:04:47.279 digress. I revert. So anyway, So we started doing 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:50.480 that on Saturday or Sunday and we knew it would 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:52.060 work because we know what's going on. He has 00:04:52.060 --> 00:04:54.660 a bulging disc that's hitting his spinal cord 00:04:54.660 --> 00:04:57.540 so he's losing the use of his back legs and paralyzing. 00:04:57.860 --> 00:05:01.019 Yeah, basically. And so we knew what was going 00:05:01.019 --> 00:05:02.699 on and we knew if we could get the inflammation 00:05:02.699 --> 00:05:05.240 down. So I reach out to Lauren Horster who is 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:08.620 a veterinarian at the vet where we go, the vet 00:05:08.620 --> 00:05:12.459 hospital. So she knows and she was gracious and 00:05:12.459 --> 00:05:14.459 wonderful and helped calm us down a little bit. 00:05:15.129 --> 00:05:18.290 So Annette stays up with Chevy or sleeps on the 00:05:18.290 --> 00:05:20.550 couch with Chevy. I couldn't even move him. This 00:05:20.550 --> 00:05:22.750 poor dog didn't pee for 22 hours. I was getting 00:05:22.750 --> 00:05:25.550 the running commentary. I bet you were. Annette 00:05:25.550 --> 00:05:29.329 was texting Tina and, you know, we're watching 00:05:29.329 --> 00:05:32.209 some things like phone. I see the phone light 00:05:32.209 --> 00:05:35.870 up, pause. Okay, what's going on? We would literally 00:05:35.870 --> 00:05:38.870 stop and pray for him and for you guys and then 00:05:38.870 --> 00:05:42.329 continue. And then, oh, I mean, we're dog people. 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:45.819 We know how this feels. Exactly. And you and 00:05:45.819 --> 00:05:49.079 I are probably even more connected to our dogs 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:51.759 than our wives are. I'm just thinking that there's 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:55.740 somehow a boy and his dog. It's a deep thing. 00:05:56.980 --> 00:06:00.699 Yeah. So that night we go to bed and every two 00:06:00.699 --> 00:06:02.860 hours he'd wake up and start screaming for no 00:06:02.860 --> 00:06:05.959 reason. I mean, she wasn't touching him. He was 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:08.379 nothing. I don't know if he was just in the night. 00:06:08.379 --> 00:06:13.399 It was getting worse. I'm up most of the night, 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:17.180 Monday night. We're going to go to the doctor 00:06:17.180 --> 00:06:18.899 the next morning because I talked to Lauren. 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:21.060 She said, yeah, take him in, let Dr. Lindner 00:06:21.060 --> 00:06:23.759 look, check him out, since he knows him because 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:25.540 he treated him last year. But you were already 00:06:25.540 --> 00:06:28.120 fearing the worst at this point. This is where 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:32.899 I'm going. So we made our decision. We've never 00:06:32.899 --> 00:06:34.899 done this, one of us sleep on the couch ever. 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:37.439 We're not those kind of people. So we don't fight 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:38.660 and go, oh, you're sleeping on the couch. We 00:06:38.660 --> 00:06:41.579 don't do that. So this is weird. I'm in the other 00:06:41.579 --> 00:06:44.259 bedroom, no sound machine, no earbuds. I wear 00:06:44.259 --> 00:06:47.120 Oslo's at night cause I love the, just the inner 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:49.660 ear and the alarm and everything. So it all works 00:06:49.660 --> 00:06:52.839 for me. So I'm, I'm totally out of my element. 00:06:53.540 --> 00:06:56.259 My way better half's not with me and he's not 00:06:56.259 --> 00:06:58.899 with me cause he sleeps in between us. So everything's 00:06:58.899 --> 00:07:02.279 off. We're worried about him and I start praying 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:06.040 and I say, Lord, I'm willing to let him go because 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:08.540 I do not want this dog to suffer. If this is 00:07:08.540 --> 00:07:11.740 what we're looking at and this is the rest of 00:07:11.740 --> 00:07:15.620 his life, then I would rather put him down. And 00:07:15.620 --> 00:07:18.740 I just gave it to the Lord. I said, otherwise 00:07:18.740 --> 00:07:22.939 show me a sign because if not, this is what we're 00:07:22.939 --> 00:07:25.519 doing. She made the same decision in the middle 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:27.040 of the night. We hadn't talked about it at all. 00:07:27.100 --> 00:07:29.800 She came to that same resolution where you just 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:31.680 resolve to something. Doesn't mean you like it. 00:07:31.680 --> 00:07:36.579 You just resolve to it. I read Psalm 23 through 00:07:36.579 --> 00:07:41.459 Psalm 34 at 4 a .m. and the Lord just ministered 00:07:41.459 --> 00:07:44.660 to my soul. It was amazing actually. I haven't 00:07:44.660 --> 00:07:49.160 had a nighttime read like that in decades where 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:54.060 he was just speaking to me. Obviously not audibly, 00:07:54.220 --> 00:07:57.459 but just the scripture was speaking to me. So 00:07:57.459 --> 00:07:59.579 get up the next morning. I'm afraid to go in 00:07:59.579 --> 00:08:01.240 there. I let them sleep in remember I said they're 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:04.439 not even awake Yeah, I just I snuck into my office 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:07.180 turned on one light didn't get coffee I just 00:08:07.180 --> 00:08:10.180 sat down because I was wide awake and just let 00:08:10.180 --> 00:08:12.639 him sleep as long they slept till like 930 because 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:16.160 it was a rough night rough I Get up and go in 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:18.860 there she gets up and we're looking at Chevy 00:08:18.860 --> 00:08:22.839 like what you know just heartbroken and he perks 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:25.879 up And he looks like the life is back in him. 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:28.139 His ears are perking up. His eyes are bright 00:08:28.139 --> 00:08:32.019 again. He's panting, like he's smiling. And we're 00:08:32.019 --> 00:08:34.519 like, Chevy. And he's responsive. Do you want 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:37.000 to go outside? Tilts his head like, yes, I do. 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:39.960 I can't, but I want to, you know? So all of a 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:42.799 sudden it was like, oh, right. What's going on 00:08:42.799 --> 00:08:46.519 here? And all that more, we couldn't get into 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:48.500 130. We thought we'd go in the morning, but we 00:08:48.500 --> 00:08:51.519 called and they couldn't see him till 130. every 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:54.399 hour upon the hour, he got better and better. 00:08:55.299 --> 00:09:00.440 But what it was, prayer of the saints, but also 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:03.860 the medication, I think mixed with prayer. That's 00:09:03.860 --> 00:09:08.940 why I wrote meds are good, but prayer is greater. 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:13.779 But both together, that's how it should be. And, 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:15.980 you know, that disc could begin to come down 00:09:15.980 --> 00:09:18.240 because that was his third day on meds. We had 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.879 done some research and it said the third day, 00:09:21.340 --> 00:09:23.460 well, that's when the inflammation really starts 00:09:23.460 --> 00:09:25.500 to kick in. Hallelujah for Jesus and chat GBT. 00:09:25.580 --> 00:09:27.759 What a combo. Oh my gosh. No kidding, right? 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:30.899 Well, it was comforting. And it gave us a goal 00:09:30.899 --> 00:09:33.799 kind of like, if he doesn't make the turn today, 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:37.720 and he did, I was able to pick him out. No more 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:41.159 crying. He hasn't cried since. You sent me a 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:43.440 picture of when you were feeding him with a water 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:45.820 dropper the night before and the next morning 00:09:45.820 --> 00:09:48.379 and he's like sitting up sitting up hello looks 00:09:48.379 --> 00:09:51.399 normal right unbelievable no actually very believable 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:54.200 there we go hey i don't tell me god doesn't do 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:56.039 miracles and that he doesn't care about our fur 00:09:56.039 --> 00:09:58.539 babies he does i mean you can tell me that but 00:09:58.539 --> 00:10:02.320 i won't believe you it was we were everybody 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:04.620 was relieved and you know because we were just 00:10:04.750 --> 00:10:06.889 I couldn't get to sleep, man. I'm like, come 00:10:06.889 --> 00:10:08.750 on, Lord, come on. That's kind of cool. That's 00:10:08.750 --> 00:10:10.210 what I love about my church. You know, I mentioned 00:10:10.210 --> 00:10:13.750 this in the pulpit on Sunday. I was swarmed. 00:10:13.809 --> 00:10:16.570 Yeah, with people. Not just ladies. I thought 00:10:16.570 --> 00:10:20.629 ladies would come say it was men. It was manly 00:10:20.629 --> 00:10:23.409 men coming to me going, bro, I know exactly where 00:10:23.409 --> 00:10:26.509 man is killing me too. I mean, I'm going to pray 00:10:26.509 --> 00:10:28.809 for your little dog. I mean, it was like... That's 00:10:28.809 --> 00:10:33.429 beautiful. I left the parking lot lifted. Just... 00:10:34.029 --> 00:10:36.850 Thankful. Always am thankful. But I left the 00:10:36.850 --> 00:10:40.090 parking lot going, we have the best church on 00:10:40.090 --> 00:10:41.649 the planet that I can get up there and bleed 00:10:41.649 --> 00:10:46.269 out about my dog. And 50 people come to me and 00:10:46.269 --> 00:10:49.690 tell me they're praying for him. So that just, 00:10:49.870 --> 00:10:52.169 gosh, it was such a lift, you know, in the middle 00:10:52.169 --> 00:10:54.169 of all that. And it didn't get the value of that. 00:10:54.210 --> 00:10:57.370 But I came home lifted, even though it was harder 00:10:57.370 --> 00:10:59.809 after that. Actually, we had to get through the 00:10:59.809 --> 00:11:03.159 hard season, but took him to the doctor. He did 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:05.360 do the x -ray just in case to check for fracture 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:07.899 and to see the disc itself when you could see 00:11:07.899 --> 00:11:11.320 it all very clearly what was happening. And he 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:13.879 said, man, that thing's really diminished where 00:11:13.879 --> 00:11:16.679 it's not hitting on the core, barely hitting 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:19.820 on the cord. He said, another couple of days, 00:11:20.059 --> 00:11:23.259 just don't let him jump off of anything. So anyway, 00:11:23.259 --> 00:11:25.340 got up this morning, he's doing good. So we're 00:11:25.340 --> 00:11:30.940 just so thankful. You were so excited and buzzing. 00:11:31.309 --> 00:11:34.490 You know, and you were over texting, which is 00:11:34.490 --> 00:11:36.029 like, okay. Yes. All right. All right, brother. 00:11:36.350 --> 00:11:38.570 I realize. Oh my gosh. And they're like, yeah, 00:11:38.570 --> 00:11:40.850 I'm sparring with people on Facebook. I'm like, 00:11:40.889 --> 00:11:45.450 okay. All right. I needed that. I needed to come 00:11:45.450 --> 00:11:48.509 back. You know, I was so focused on this dog. 00:11:48.669 --> 00:11:51.110 I was like, I need to get back in the game. So 00:11:51.110 --> 00:11:53.450 I'm just going to throw out a little, little, 00:11:53.450 --> 00:11:56.850 a little post about Talarico. Just a little something. 00:11:57.169 --> 00:12:00.370 Wow. Boy, the claws came out. But you know what? 00:12:00.409 --> 00:12:03.490 It was actually good for me. I laughed about 00:12:03.490 --> 00:12:06.029 it because I was like, I needed that. That felt 00:12:06.029 --> 00:12:08.730 good. After about an hour and a half I said, 00:12:08.809 --> 00:12:10.990 all right, I'm done. After the last minute he 00:12:10.990 --> 00:12:13.129 called me a hypocrite and said I shouldn't be 00:12:13.129 --> 00:12:16.870 a pastor doing politics. So I just thought, okay, 00:12:17.169 --> 00:12:21.309 time to stop. Well, the thing about Talarico 00:12:21.309 --> 00:12:26.710 specifically is that his entire Christian, air 00:12:26.710 --> 00:12:30.399 quotes, church life He's all about politics. 00:12:31.620 --> 00:12:34.679 And we're going to prove that. And it's important 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:38.220 because from two perspectives, one, he is now 00:12:38.220 --> 00:12:43.980 the senatorial candidate for Texas. And now I 00:12:43.980 --> 00:12:45.559 don't think it was that hard for him to beat 00:12:45.559 --> 00:12:49.220 Jasmine Crockett. Exactly. Low bar. Yeah, pretty 00:12:49.220 --> 00:12:52.539 low bar. Because she just literally says she 00:12:52.539 --> 00:12:55.220 hates white people. I mean, you can hear her 00:12:55.220 --> 00:12:59.019 saying it. It's just crazy, which makes no sense. 00:13:01.539 --> 00:13:06.519 Apparently he does too. Well, so it's not only 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:09.419 because—and this is politics. It is. But he's 00:13:09.419 --> 00:13:11.179 bringing it, and we're going to show that to 00:13:11.179 --> 00:13:16.139 you, but also just his understanding of what 00:13:16.139 --> 00:13:20.200 being a Christian means is— I mean, he did this 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:21.639 thing in a church, and I have some clips from 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:25.320 that, and you hear people going, amen. I'm like, 00:13:25.399 --> 00:13:30.200 wow, man, it's really confusing. And I can see 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:34.299 where a lot of Christians may feel like, oh, 00:13:34.299 --> 00:13:38.659 OK, I'm a good Christian, and I don't have to 00:13:38.659 --> 00:13:41.659 stand by certain things that God says that are 00:13:41.659 --> 00:13:44.159 written in the Bible, so I feel even better about 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:48.330 my faith now. And I've seen this with... with 00:13:48.330 --> 00:13:53.129 many different people. So before we get into 00:13:53.129 --> 00:13:55.769 this particular sermon that he did somewhere 00:13:55.769 --> 00:14:01.009 in 2023, this all started, you sent me a, I think 00:14:01.009 --> 00:14:04.370 an Instagram post, and there were two clips in 00:14:04.370 --> 00:14:07.049 there that kind of that set you up and like, 00:14:07.289 --> 00:14:09.769 Oh, wow, we got and I think you even said like, 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:12.080 I got to find a long form of this guy because 00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:14.519 I need to make some clips for the show. So here 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:16.600 he is. These are just very short. These are like, 00:14:16.620 --> 00:14:18.759 you know, less than 20 seconds. In the Gospel 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.480 of Thomas, which was later omitted from the Bible, 00:14:22.659 --> 00:14:24.759 the Gospel of Thomas quotes Jesus... Should we 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:27.720 just stop there? The Gospel of Thomas that was 00:14:27.720 --> 00:14:30.659 later omitted. Is this true? It was never part 00:14:30.659 --> 00:14:34.799 of the canon. It was denied straight up by the 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:37.580 early church fathers. And the reason is... because 00:14:37.580 --> 00:14:41.179 it was written 150 to 200 years after the Gospels. 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:45.059 So it would be considered an extra biblical writing. 00:14:46.659 --> 00:14:51.159 Another thing that's interesting is Thomas didn't 00:14:51.159 --> 00:14:54.279 write it. So the Gospel of Thomas... Who wrote 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:56.700 it? We don't know who wrote it. It wasn't Paul. 00:14:56.840 --> 00:14:59.539 He wasn't there. No, it was not one of the biblical 00:14:59.539 --> 00:15:02.679 writers. So it's interesting because it's 114 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:05.820 sayings. It's broken down. It's like a... Sort 00:15:05.820 --> 00:15:08.559 of like a Proverbs, but a Jesus version of Proverbs. 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:12.440 That's what the gospel of Thomas is. Yeah, 114 00:15:12.440 --> 00:15:16.559 sayings. We'll talk more about, I'll read number 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:21.639 114 to you later, but first of all, what he says, 00:15:22.139 --> 00:15:26.139 it was never in the Bible, period. So he starts 00:15:26.139 --> 00:15:28.139 off on the wrong foot. First of all, he's going 00:15:28.139 --> 00:15:31.299 to quote an extra biblical source as gospel. 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:34.879 And he's going to say it was in and later omitted. 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:37.940 It was never in. Okay. In the Gospel of Thomas, 00:15:38.139 --> 00:15:41.659 which was later omitted from the Bible, the Gospel 00:15:41.659 --> 00:15:44.860 of Thomas quotes Jesus as saying, when you make 00:15:44.860 --> 00:15:49.019 the male and female one in the same, when the 00:15:49.019 --> 00:15:51.720 male is not male, when the female is not female, 00:15:52.500 --> 00:15:56.879 then you will enter the kingdom of God. Wow. 00:15:57.230 --> 00:15:59.870 So when the male is not male and the female is 00:15:59.870 --> 00:16:02.190 not female then you will enter the kingdom of 00:16:02.190 --> 00:16:05.789 God that's in Thomas in this somewhere writings 00:16:05.789 --> 00:16:11.470 He didn't say where it was and by the way, Tallarico 00:16:11.470 --> 00:16:15.870 before Congress Stated that there are six genders 00:16:15.870 --> 00:16:19.269 and science has proven it. Yes. I don't know 00:16:19.269 --> 00:16:21.850 if this is part of that clip I think is both 00:16:21.850 --> 00:16:26.509 masculine and feminine and everything in between 00:16:26.990 --> 00:16:31.529 God is non -binary. That was good enough for 00:16:31.529 --> 00:16:37.929 me. Who is non -binary? Okay. So let me read 00:16:37.929 --> 00:16:42.009 to you saying number 114 straight out of the 00:16:42.009 --> 00:16:46.309 gospel of Thomas. Simon Peter said to them, it 00:16:46.309 --> 00:16:49.149 sounds like the Bible. Simon Peter said to them, 00:16:49.330 --> 00:16:52.169 let Mary leave us for females are not worthy 00:16:52.169 --> 00:16:56.409 of life. Jesus said, See, I shall guide her so 00:16:56.409 --> 00:16:59.070 that I will make her male, in order that she 00:16:59.070 --> 00:17:01.590 also may become a living spirit resembling you 00:17:01.590 --> 00:17:04.970 males. For every woman who makes herself male 00:17:04.970 --> 00:17:09.329 will enter the kingdom of heaven." So what he's 00:17:09.329 --> 00:17:12.150 doing is he's saying this book that was part 00:17:12.150 --> 00:17:14.990 of the Bible but got left out actually proves 00:17:14.990 --> 00:17:18.990 the fact that God was non -binary because he 00:17:18.990 --> 00:17:23.000 didn't care about male or female. I mean, how 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:25.359 does this he's he went to seminary? I'm not sure 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:28.559 which seminary he went to a Presbyterian seminary 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:32.400 in Austin, Texas Okay, it doesn't get much more 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:34.700 progressive than that. So they just making stuff 00:17:34.700 --> 00:17:37.500 up out a whole cloth. They did not realize that 00:17:37.500 --> 00:17:41.440 there's agendas that drive this and we know there's 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:46.180 a progressive agenda that is extremely left extremely 00:17:46.180 --> 00:17:51.359 liberal and the sad thing about it is People 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:53.980 believe this stuff. That's what's so hard. I 00:17:53.980 --> 00:17:55.960 think he believes it. I think he truly believes 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:58.779 what he's saying. Well, he's very winsome, but 00:17:58.779 --> 00:18:03.160 so was Bill Clinton. He's very, um, Attractional. 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:06.880 He's sharp and confident, but so was Obama. I 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:12.140 mean, so you can be winsome, secure, intelligent, 00:18:12.779 --> 00:18:15.900 articulate. And wrong. And it doesn't take much 00:18:15.900 --> 00:18:18.200 for people to go, that's got to be true because 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:20.460 a very intelligent person wouldn't be saying 00:18:20.460 --> 00:18:25.819 these things. Yes. Well, it's mind boggling. 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:30.019 So he did... That was the Presbyterian Church 00:18:30.019 --> 00:18:32.400 in Austin where he was preaching there in 23. 00:18:33.140 --> 00:18:37.119 Oh, okay. So I got a couple of clips from that 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:40.359 sermon. And right off the bat, well, actually, 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:42.220 let's just get into just the intro and then I 00:18:42.220 --> 00:18:44.319 can set it because, you know, I have very strong 00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:46.480 opinions about what he's doing here. But if I'm 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:51.700 being very honest, sometimes I hesitate before 00:18:51.700 --> 00:18:56.200 telling someone I'm a Christian. There is a cancer 00:18:56.200 --> 00:19:01.599 on our religion until we confess the sin that 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:05.019 is Christian nationalism and exercise it from 00:19:05.019 --> 00:19:08.799 our churches. Our religion can do a lot more 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:13.240 damage than a six pack of Lone Star So he so 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:17.160 he loaded rights who calls out Christian nationalism 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:20.700 and This is a term that you know, I've had my 00:19:20.700 --> 00:19:24.940 eye on for quite a while now and it's bandied 00:19:24.940 --> 00:19:29.640 about It's often And I looked up as many different 00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:32.380 definitions as possible. His is absolutely mind 00:19:32.380 --> 00:19:36.000 -boggling Maybe I should ask you. What do you? 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:41.200 Because it's a label, right? But what to you 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:44.460 is a Christian nationalist? What does that mean 00:19:44.460 --> 00:19:47.000 in your mind? Well, first of all, semantics matter 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:50.779 and the order of the words matter. I am a Christian. 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:55.180 A nationalist, in my understanding, is someone 00:19:55.180 --> 00:19:59.259 who believes in what their country has stood 00:19:59.259 --> 00:20:03.750 for and stands for. I tend to go back to our 00:20:03.750 --> 00:20:05.930 founding fathers, to the original years, to the 00:20:05.930 --> 00:20:08.650 original pastors like the Reverend Jonas Clark 00:20:08.650 --> 00:20:11.529 from Lexington and others who stood the Black 00:20:11.529 --> 00:20:15.390 Robe Regiment. I go back to those and say, this 00:20:15.390 --> 00:20:19.150 is what created what we call America, the United 00:20:19.150 --> 00:20:22.970 States. Tallarico's coming along and saying, 00:20:23.289 --> 00:20:26.089 hey, this Christian nationalism stuff has got 00:20:26.089 --> 00:20:29.589 to go. It's a cancer. And I'm thinking, no, heresy 00:20:29.589 --> 00:20:33.940 is a cancer. Heresy from a pulpit is a cancer, 00:20:34.299 --> 00:20:36.420 and it was denounced by the Apostle Paul. It 00:20:36.420 --> 00:20:39.539 was denounced by Jesus. It was denounced by the 00:20:39.539 --> 00:20:45.220 biblical writers. And actually, in the early 00:20:45.220 --> 00:20:48.299 years in some of the early Catholic Church and 00:20:48.299 --> 00:20:50.900 all, I mean, if you were a heretic, you could 00:20:50.900 --> 00:20:54.259 be killed for it. Before we get into the heresy. 00:20:55.740 --> 00:20:58.079 But Christian nationalism, okay, that has become 00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:00.910 a term. So if you think about it, The Bible says 00:21:00.910 --> 00:21:04.690 that they were first called Christians at Antioch. 00:21:04.849 --> 00:21:07.009 By the way, it was a negative term. It was a 00:21:07.009 --> 00:21:11.630 slur. It was derogatory. But it stuck. The British 00:21:11.630 --> 00:21:15.329 coined a phrase for the pastors who fueled the 00:21:15.329 --> 00:21:18.750 fire of freedom and freedom from tyranny in the 00:21:18.750 --> 00:21:21.150 American Revolution. They called them the Black 00:21:21.150 --> 00:21:23.809 Road Regiment, and it was a disparaging term, 00:21:24.190 --> 00:21:28.380 and it took. It stuck. I can't remember, you 00:21:28.380 --> 00:21:30.339 probably, I'm sure you've played the clip before 00:21:30.339 --> 00:21:33.859 of the broadcaster, the journalist, slash journalist, 00:21:34.299 --> 00:21:36.680 quote journalist, who said, talked about Christian 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:39.460 nationalism. It became kind of a term thrown 00:21:39.460 --> 00:21:42.160 out on the air at one point, and no one really 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:44.519 knows where it actually came from. She just said 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:46.420 it out loud, these Christian nationalists. Yeah, 00:21:46.519 --> 00:21:48.259 yeah. It was on CNN, I think. And it caught. 00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:51.940 So when I hear the word Christian nationalist, 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:54.299 I take it as a compliment. I'm not a nationalist 00:21:54.299 --> 00:21:57.029 who happens to be a Christian. I'm a Christian 00:21:57.029 --> 00:21:59.490 who happens to stand for my country and believe 00:21:59.490 --> 00:22:03.569 that. Here's a couple of definitions that I found. 00:22:03.569 --> 00:22:07.890 Sure. And these are all cited. There's a sociological 00:22:07.890 --> 00:22:11.049 definition, which is the fusion of identities. 00:22:12.089 --> 00:22:14.069 The concept there is a Christian nationalist 00:22:14.069 --> 00:22:17.069 blurs the distinctions between religious and 00:22:17.069 --> 00:22:20.509 national identity, believing the nation's history, 00:22:21.089 --> 00:22:24.089 sacred symbols, cherished values and public policies. 00:22:24.349 --> 00:22:27.150 are intrinsically tied to a cultural expression 00:22:27.150 --> 00:22:30.289 of Christianity. Sounds pretty good, actually. 00:22:30.529 --> 00:22:34.809 That comes across as then the critical definition. 00:22:36.809 --> 00:22:39.809 And so there's actually groups out there, pastor, 00:22:40.049 --> 00:22:42.549 like Christians Against Christian Nationalism. 00:22:43.190 --> 00:22:45.970 It's like Ron Reagan Jr. I think he would fit 00:22:45.970 --> 00:22:49.230 in this category. They define it as political 00:22:49.230 --> 00:22:52.869 ideology that seeks power at the expense of religious 00:22:52.869 --> 00:22:57.130 pluralism. So, that would be a Christian symbolism 00:22:57.130 --> 00:22:59.930 as a permission structure to acquire political 00:22:59.930 --> 00:23:03.849 power and enforce social control. So, I think 00:23:03.849 --> 00:23:08.910 that's odd. And I wonder if... Well, I think 00:23:08.910 --> 00:23:14.109 that's what the term means to a lot of people. 00:23:14.329 --> 00:23:20.849 Then we have the proponent and self -described 00:23:20.849 --> 00:23:22.630 definition. Okay, so this is supposedly what 00:23:22.630 --> 00:23:25.009 we would think. Proponents believe that a nation 00:23:25.009 --> 00:23:27.150 has a distinct historically Christian identity 00:23:27.150 --> 00:23:29.730 that must be preserved. They argue the purpose 00:23:29.730 --> 00:23:32.049 of government is to protect the Christian understanding 00:23:32.049 --> 00:23:35.150 of civilization, orient public policy around 00:23:35.150 --> 00:23:39.109 a biblical worldview, and reject secularism without 00:23:39.109 --> 00:23:42.069 necessarily forcing individual religious conversions. 00:23:42.829 --> 00:23:45.970 Also doesn't sound all that bad to me. And we 00:23:45.970 --> 00:23:48.710 have the receipts on the origin of our country. 00:23:48.849 --> 00:23:52.230 I mean, all these early founders, the forefathers, 00:23:52.309 --> 00:23:55.829 they all were biblical men. Everything they wrote 00:23:55.829 --> 00:23:59.349 had God in it and scripture in it. Then there's 00:23:59.349 --> 00:24:02.470 the global definition. I did some work here, 00:24:02.549 --> 00:24:04.490 brother. I got some stuff for you. Thank you, 00:24:04.529 --> 00:24:08.769 ChadGBT. Hungary, Poland, Brazil, Ghana, a Christian 00:24:08.769 --> 00:24:11.430 nationalist is part of a political coalition, 00:24:12.829 --> 00:24:16.289 often uniting conservative Catholics and evangelicals 00:24:16.289 --> 00:24:19.150 that seeks to embed social conservatism into 00:24:19.150 --> 00:24:21.549 law, uphold the nation's traditional Christian 00:24:21.549 --> 00:24:25.059 heritage. and actively curb the influence of 00:24:25.059 --> 00:24:29.380 Western progressivism, moral relativism, or secular 00:24:29.380 --> 00:24:32.680 liberalism. There's also pieces in there that 00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:36.000 I agree with. But it doesn't necessarily... I 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:38.759 felt this way before I was saved. Exactly. It 00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:41.819 doesn't really come from my faith. Well, I felt 00:24:41.819 --> 00:24:43.680 some of these ways before there was an actual 00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:46.599 word for it, you know? Yeah. And really, a lot 00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:49.039 of us who have said, okay, you want to call me 00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:52.190 that? Fine, I am. but by my definition, not yours. 00:24:53.170 --> 00:24:55.829 And so that's the thing is when we get into definitions 00:24:55.829 --> 00:24:58.349 and categorize - And labels. And labels. Labels, 00:24:58.549 --> 00:24:59.890 yeah, that was really where I was looking for. 00:25:00.190 --> 00:25:02.890 When we get into labels, that's when we get in 00:25:02.890 --> 00:25:06.069 trouble because now if I can label you, I can 00:25:06.069 --> 00:25:08.150 put you over here. Yep. I can push you off of 00:25:08.150 --> 00:25:09.829 this - That is exactly what's happening. You 00:25:09.829 --> 00:25:12.569 over here, you over here. So now that we need 00:25:12.569 --> 00:25:15.269 to get rid of this cancer, Christian nationals, 00:25:15.289 --> 00:25:18.750 and exercise them from the church, I'm like - 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:20.859 Trust me, in that church, there's not a one sitting 00:25:20.859 --> 00:25:23.099 there that is already. So they've already been 00:25:23.099 --> 00:25:25.099 exercised from that church, I'm certain. Two 00:25:25.099 --> 00:25:28.000 more definitions. The theological definition. 00:25:29.059 --> 00:25:31.220 A Christian nationalist in this context believes 00:25:31.220 --> 00:25:33.839 Christians have a divine mandate to exercise 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:36.900 dominion over all spheres of society. I would 00:25:36.900 --> 00:25:38.900 say that's the seven mountain mandate, including 00:25:38.900 --> 00:25:41.720 government, media, education, that a nation's 00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:44.079 civil law should be directly modeled after biblical 00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:51.809 laws. Also, Kind of our founding fathers said 00:25:51.809 --> 00:25:55.369 the same thing. Then the heritage or the patriotic 00:25:55.369 --> 00:25:59.049 definition, in this colloquial definition, a 00:25:59.049 --> 00:26:01.049 Christian nationalist is someone who believes 00:26:01.049 --> 00:26:03.230 their country was founded on Judeo -Christian 00:26:03.230 --> 00:26:05.730 principles, loves their country, and believes 00:26:05.730 --> 00:26:08.430 society functions best when it broadly respects 00:26:08.430 --> 00:26:11.710 Christian moral values, even if they do not advocate 00:26:11.710 --> 00:26:15.279 for an official state religion. Also in there. 00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:19.779 So, except for the very first one, which was 00:26:19.779 --> 00:26:22.400 that we blur the distinction between religious 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:28.000 and national identity, which obviously you can't. 00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:30.380 We have so many different religious identities. 00:26:30.619 --> 00:26:32.880 Talarico's not blurring the line. Well, let's 00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:35.940 listen to his definition of Christian nationalism. 00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:40.059 There is nothing Christian about Christian nationalism. 00:26:40.980 --> 00:26:45.730 It is the worship of power. social power, economic 00:26:45.730 --> 00:26:49.789 power, political power, in the name of Christ. 00:26:50.509 --> 00:26:55.190 And it is a betrayal of Jesus of Nazareth. He 00:26:55.190 --> 00:26:59.250 told us we would know them by their fruits. Jesus 00:26:59.250 --> 00:27:05.150 includes. Christian nationalism excludes. Jesus 00:27:05.150 --> 00:27:10.670 liberates. Christian nationalism controls. Jesus 00:27:10.670 --> 00:27:16.259 saves. Christian nationalism kills. Jesus started 00:27:16.259 --> 00:27:20.900 a universal movement based on mutual love. Christian 00:27:20.900 --> 00:27:25.680 nationalism is a sectarian movement based on 00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:29.420 mutual hate. Jesus came to transform the world. 00:27:29.619 --> 00:27:32.819 Christian nationalism is here to maintain the 00:27:32.819 --> 00:27:37.700 status quo. They have co -opted the Son of God. 00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:43.019 They've turned this humble rabbi into a gun -toting, 00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:46.420 gay -bashing, science -denying, money -loving, 00:27:46.579 --> 00:27:49.920 fear -mongering fascist. And it is incumbent 00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:54.480 upon all Christians to confront it and denounce 00:27:54.480 --> 00:28:12.970 it. But these are some pretty harsh words he's 00:28:12.970 --> 00:28:15.589 saying here, and he's saying it with conviction. 00:28:17.009 --> 00:28:21.170 Very. Virtue signaling out the wazoo. This is 00:28:21.170 --> 00:28:25.630 all about their moral, his version of moral superiority, 00:28:25.849 --> 00:28:30.230 and that he is somehow walking out the pure Christian 00:28:30.230 --> 00:28:35.430 faith. That's just arrogant. Listen to some examples 00:28:35.430 --> 00:28:39.089 he has of Christian nationalism at work in our 00:28:39.089 --> 00:28:41.319 country. Christian nationalism is on the rise. 00:28:41.859 --> 00:28:45.079 Two years ago, Christian nationalists stormed 00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:49.640 the U .S. Capitol, killed— Wow. Hold on. I cut 00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:51.700 it off too soon. Wait, wait, wait. Christian 00:28:51.700 --> 00:28:54.519 nationalists stormed the U .S. Capitol, killing 00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:57.819 police officers. Okay. No one killed a police 00:28:57.819 --> 00:29:01.299 officer. Police officers had heart attacks and 00:29:01.299 --> 00:29:03.640 had other things happen to them, but that's just 00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:07.319 a lie. And to say that Christian nationalists 00:29:08.069 --> 00:29:10.170 stormed the capital. I don't even think that 00:29:10.170 --> 00:29:12.730 term was a term then. That wasn't even a word. 00:29:13.049 --> 00:29:19.210 No, there were some... What was the flag? Besides 00:29:19.210 --> 00:29:21.769 the Gadsden flag, there was also the... Oh, come 00:29:21.769 --> 00:29:25.450 on, we talked about it. The white flag with the 00:29:25.450 --> 00:29:28.710 pine tree. Yes, I see it. Yeah, okay. I can't 00:29:28.710 --> 00:29:30.849 remember the words. We are bad Christian nationalists, 00:29:30.990 --> 00:29:32.950 Pastor Jimmy Pruitt. We're no good. We're not 00:29:32.950 --> 00:29:35.069 pure. We're not doing it right. Christian nationalists 00:29:35.069 --> 00:29:38.460 stormed. the U .S. Capitol, killing police officers 00:29:38.460 --> 00:29:42.640 while carrying crosses and signs reading, Jesus 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:46.940 saves. Last year, Christian nationalists on the 00:29:46.940 --> 00:29:50.559 U .S. Supreme Court overturned Roe versus Wade, 00:29:51.180 --> 00:29:54.019 allowing states like ours to outlaw abortion, 00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:57.799 even in cases of rape and incest. Very loaded 00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:01.660 what he's doing. Wow. No kidding. So, you know, 00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:07.589 it was a It was a majority of the Supreme Court. 00:30:08.210 --> 00:30:11.670 And it's also factually untrue that they overturned 00:30:11.670 --> 00:30:15.950 Roe versus Wade. Technically, there was no, there's 00:30:15.950 --> 00:30:20.230 opinions. So the whole thing is, so here's where 00:30:20.230 --> 00:30:22.890 the politicization just comes in so hard. I'm 00:30:22.890 --> 00:30:26.950 like, okay, why don't you just say vote Democrat? 00:30:27.049 --> 00:30:29.109 Because that's what he's really trying to tell 00:30:29.109 --> 00:30:33.940 a group of people in a church. And as we speak, 00:30:34.539 --> 00:30:37.400 two Christian nationalist billionaires are trying 00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:40.859 to replace public schools in Texas with private 00:30:40.859 --> 00:30:44.000 Christian schooling. Also not true. No one's 00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:46.160 trying to replace public schools. No, they're 00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:52.019 just giving equal access. So when people push 00:30:52.019 --> 00:30:54.779 back on you about, you know, stay in your lane, 00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.680 pastor, don't get political, this is what it 00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:03.849 is. I mean, politics, as you say, arrives on 00:31:03.849 --> 00:31:07.710 your doorstep. You have to be involved in this 00:31:07.710 --> 00:31:10.009 according to our Christian nationalist mantra 00:31:10.009 --> 00:31:12.269 and the rules that we were given once we were 00:31:12.269 --> 00:31:19.390 saved. This is what we have to do. Maybe you'll 00:31:19.390 --> 00:31:21.450 be able to help me parse and understand because 00:31:21.450 --> 00:31:24.609 he goes way back now to the roots of Christian 00:31:24.609 --> 00:31:26.910 nationalism, the real roots of it all. The book 00:31:26.910 --> 00:31:29.150 of Acts tells us that the first Christians were 00:31:29.150 --> 00:31:31.950 persecuted for turning the world upside down. 00:31:33.109 --> 00:31:36.950 But 300 years after Jesus was executed by the 00:31:36.950 --> 00:31:41.190 Roman Empire, Emperor Constantine made Christianity 00:31:41.190 --> 00:31:44.109 the official state religion of that very same 00:31:44.109 --> 00:31:49.170 empire. Constantine was the first Christian nationalist. 00:31:49.329 --> 00:31:53.309 I'll just stop there for a second. Wow. So what 00:31:53.309 --> 00:31:56.269 is he trying to do here? Well, he is defining 00:31:56.269 --> 00:31:59.150 terms is what he's doing. And he's building a 00:31:59.150 --> 00:32:02.529 case. It sounds very much like what a legal person 00:32:02.529 --> 00:32:06.910 attorney would do. Building a case with very, 00:32:06.910 --> 00:32:11.329 very clear semantics and very intentional wording. 00:32:12.309 --> 00:32:14.789 And like I said, this is virtue signaling to 00:32:14.789 --> 00:32:18.349 another level. He's good at it. But what, so 00:32:18.349 --> 00:32:22.750 is he comparing Constantine to President Trump 00:32:22.750 --> 00:32:25.970 and saying, you know, Constantine made it the 00:32:25.970 --> 00:32:27.690 official religion, which of course we don't have 00:32:27.690 --> 00:32:29.930 an official religion in America. Nor do we want 00:32:29.930 --> 00:32:34.230 that. No, but that's what's so crazy is he's 00:32:34.230 --> 00:32:36.329 passing on these tropes that have been going 00:32:36.329 --> 00:32:39.289 on for, and I'm sure that there must be some 00:32:39.289 --> 00:32:42.130 Christian groups or churches that are definitely 00:32:42.130 --> 00:32:47.690 out there. Oh, sure. Like for any religion. But 00:32:47.690 --> 00:32:51.950 that is not, in my experience, the majority at 00:32:51.950 --> 00:32:54.410 all that continues with this history lesson. 00:32:55.430 --> 00:32:58.410 And ever since, the powers that be have been 00:32:58.410 --> 00:33:02.349 taming Christianity, domesticating it, diluting 00:33:02.349 --> 00:33:07.990 it into something more palatable, pro -war, pro 00:33:07.990 --> 00:33:12.849 -wealth, pro -white supremacy. That original 00:33:12.849 --> 00:33:17.349 countercultural movement became a tranquilized, 00:33:17.750 --> 00:33:22.170 privatized, weaponized religion, the official 00:33:22.170 --> 00:33:25.890 sponsor of Western civilization. Now what I actually 00:33:25.890 --> 00:33:30.210 hear in this clip is projection. Yes. Because 00:33:30.210 --> 00:33:34.430 he is the one that has been weaponizing. He is 00:33:34.430 --> 00:33:37.990 literally weaponizing faith right here, religion 00:33:37.990 --> 00:33:42.130 as he calls it. And it is my experience that 00:33:42.130 --> 00:33:46.299 being a believer today, is in fact counterculture. 00:33:46.980 --> 00:33:51.140 It is almost definition of going against culture, 00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.400 his culture, which I grew up with. I grew up 00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:58.420 with all of this stuff. So it's mind -boggling 00:33:58.420 --> 00:34:02.839 to hear. We'll just close this here with what 00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:06.960 I think what he is touting, and this would be 00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:14.320 probably a very liberal Democrat stance. over 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:17.219 people's private parts while the planet burns. 00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:21.360 Again, the projection is unbelievable. Who's 00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:24.039 obsessing? You are! You're obsessing over it. 00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:26.219 Exactly. And then to say, well, the planet burned. 00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:28.920 OK, throw some climate change in there. The planet 00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:31.940 is not burning any more or less. California was 00:34:31.940 --> 00:34:35.360 on fire 200 years ago. You know, that's just 00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:39.199 the world burns all the time and then it doesn't 00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:41.519 burn. And there's a cycle of things. But OK. 00:34:42.589 --> 00:34:47.349 Eight men own as much wealth as 3 .6 billion 00:34:47.349 --> 00:34:50.349 people and Christian nationalists are boycotting 00:34:50.349 --> 00:34:56.489 Barbie The Bible doesn't mention abortion or 00:34:56.489 --> 00:34:59.909 gay marriage But it goes on and on about forgiving 00:34:59.909 --> 00:35:02.449 dead liberating the poor and healing the sick 00:35:02.449 --> 00:35:05.469 You want to comment on that about the the Bible 00:35:05.469 --> 00:35:07.690 doesn't mention. This is kind of interesting 00:35:07.690 --> 00:35:11.130 It's a way of Romans chapter 1 just read it for 00:35:11.130 --> 00:35:14.570 yourself Christian nationalists like to say this 00:35:14.570 --> 00:35:17.389 is a Christian nation. Not only is that historically 00:35:17.389 --> 00:35:22.010 inaccurate. So again, you know, it's just like 00:35:22.010 --> 00:35:25.170 it historically you're just wrong. Mr. Tallarico, 00:35:25.269 --> 00:35:28.130 but he's so confident in his wrongness, you know, 00:35:28.230 --> 00:35:31.289 that's he's actually good in terms of how he 00:35:31.289 --> 00:35:33.570 communicates. I just want to know who conviction 00:35:33.570 --> 00:35:35.889 I got to meet the people who taught him this 00:35:35.889 --> 00:35:38.250 and what literature are they because that's what 00:35:38.250 --> 00:35:40.880 we need to investigate. He's another level. Is 00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.219 very much so. I'd like to say this is a Christian 00:35:43.219 --> 00:35:45.780 nation. Not only is that historically inaccurate, 00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:49.400 not only is that theologically blasphemous, but 00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:53.320 it's also just not true. Look around us. If this 00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:55.460 was truly a Christian nation, we would forgive 00:35:55.460 --> 00:35:59.239 student debt. If this was truly a Christian nation, 00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:02.420 we would guarantee health care to every single 00:36:02.420 --> 00:36:05.119 person. If this was truly a Christian nation, 00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:09.230 we would love all of our LGBTQ neighbors. If 00:36:09.230 --> 00:36:11.409 this was truly a Christian nation, we would make 00:36:11.409 --> 00:36:14.170 sure every child in this state and in this country 00:36:14.170 --> 00:36:18.309 was housed, fed, clothed, educated, and insured. 00:36:19.030 --> 00:36:21.110 If this was truly a Christian nation, we would 00:36:21.110 --> 00:36:24.090 never make it a Christian nation. Become a Christian 00:36:24.090 --> 00:36:26.250 like me and everything will be taken care of. 00:36:26.409 --> 00:36:29.809 He's touting Marxism here. Total Marxism. Marxism. 00:36:30.130 --> 00:36:34.570 101. Marxism. Basic. Because we know the table 00:36:34.570 --> 00:36:37.090 of fellowship is open to everybody, including 00:36:37.090 --> 00:36:40.539 our Buddhist Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, and 00:36:40.539 --> 00:36:44.960 atheist neighbors. Jesus could have started a 00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:47.940 Christian theocracy, but love would never do 00:36:47.940 --> 00:36:52.239 that. The closest thing we have to the kingdom 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:56.840 of heaven is a multiracial, multicultural democracy 00:36:56.840 --> 00:37:01.199 where power is truly shared among all people, 00:37:01.699 --> 00:37:04.599 something that's yet to exist in human history. 00:37:04.679 --> 00:37:07.400 Exactly. Literally. Because it doesn't work. 00:37:08.289 --> 00:37:12.869 Because the human condition apparently is a prerequisite. 00:37:12.989 --> 00:37:16.409 He believes that the human condition is basically 00:37:16.409 --> 00:37:21.510 good, and this is where we would part ways. Let's 00:37:21.510 --> 00:37:24.090 just get back to the beginning, theology 101. 00:37:25.309 --> 00:37:28.010 The scripture says that every man has lost his 00:37:28.010 --> 00:37:32.170 way. None seeks God. I mean, it's clear that 00:37:32.170 --> 00:37:35.110 we were born in sin. Paul made it clear. He said 00:37:35.110 --> 00:37:40.099 it over and over. This kind of thinking basis, 00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:43.639 when you boil it all back down to the root, is 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:47.679 that no, we're all intrinsically good. We all 00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:50.599 deserve a medal. We all deserve a ribbon. Participation 00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:52.300 trophy. We don't want to hurt anybody or trigger 00:37:52.300 --> 00:37:57.239 anybody. This stuff is so scary. He would have 00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:01.480 fit right in with Joe Bottom's regime. He's a 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:03.400 little out of his time, but he's trying to pull 00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:09.210 something back. What worries me is that it's 00:38:09.210 --> 00:38:14.710 a shortcut on the narrow path, because these 00:38:14.710 --> 00:38:18.909 are exactly the things that we learn from Scripture, 00:38:19.670 --> 00:38:24.610 what sin is when it comes to sexuality, when 00:38:24.610 --> 00:38:31.690 it comes to abortion. Those are the top two ones. 00:38:31.809 --> 00:38:34.989 That's the biggest problem right there. And just 00:38:34.989 --> 00:38:38.150 because you believe in that and you have faith 00:38:38.150 --> 00:38:41.230 in the Word of God doesn't mean that you hate 00:38:41.230 --> 00:38:44.670 someone who's gay. Quite the opposite. Exactly. 00:38:44.849 --> 00:38:48.110 This is why this level of virtue signaling bothers 00:38:48.110 --> 00:38:53.929 me so much because he's categorizing people into 00:38:53.929 --> 00:38:58.460 this very narrow And reading minds, apparently. 00:38:58.500 --> 00:39:01.059 Oh yeah, but he's projecting things into that 00:39:01.059 --> 00:39:03.579 same frame. So he builds the frame, he lumps 00:39:03.579 --> 00:39:06.579 millions of people into it with these terms, 00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:12.199 and then he piles on top of that additional ancillary 00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:15.699 things that are inflammatory and controversial, 00:39:16.820 --> 00:39:21.480 and now he puts them all in the same frame as 00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:24.480 though this is true. And I'm thinking, this guy 00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:29.360 doesn't know me. at all. So the danger lies in 00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:34.960 people who feel called, feel called to Jesus, 00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:39.380 culturally are afraid to say, oh, I don't believe 00:39:39.380 --> 00:39:41.800 that this is a right thing to do, or I think 00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:44.920 that is wrong. Not saying you don't have the 00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:46.860 right to do whatever you want, broken person, 00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:49.400 because we live in the broken world. And take 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.980 this shortcut because someone is in the pulpit 00:39:52.980 --> 00:39:58.570 with a rainbow scarf, and says, it's okay. And 00:39:58.570 --> 00:40:01.110 once you go down that road, they can make many 00:40:01.110 --> 00:40:04.030 things okay. Once you change scripture, which 00:40:04.030 --> 00:40:09.510 is definitely a no -no, I've read that, you don't 00:40:09.510 --> 00:40:12.449 just change scripture. So there's new translations 00:40:12.449 --> 00:40:15.150 which have all these different interpretations, 00:40:15.429 --> 00:40:18.710 even the fact that the Bible is open to interpretation. 00:40:21.290 --> 00:40:25.269 It's disturbing because this is the actual dilution 00:40:25.269 --> 00:40:29.409 of faith, and it doesn't seem like it'll end 00:40:29.409 --> 00:40:35.570 well. It won't. Let me give a basic rationale. 00:40:37.429 --> 00:40:40.010 In Ephesians 4, it says, until we all attain... 00:40:40.010 --> 00:40:42.469 Paul is talking about the gifts that were given 00:40:42.469 --> 00:40:44.789 to the church, the apostle, the prophet, the 00:40:44.789 --> 00:40:46.630 evangelist, the pastor, and the teacher, these 00:40:46.630 --> 00:40:49.230 five offices given to the church. Why? For the 00:40:49.230 --> 00:40:51.190 equipping of the saints for the work of ministry." 00:40:51.190 --> 00:40:53.489 He says, this is why these things are here, these 00:40:53.489 --> 00:40:56.789 people, these offices. And then he goes in and 00:40:56.789 --> 00:41:00.530 he breaks off from that to say this, it's for 00:41:00.530 --> 00:41:02.250 the building up of the body of Christ until we 00:41:02.250 --> 00:41:04.710 all attain to the unity of the faith and of the 00:41:04.710 --> 00:41:07.070 knowledge of the Son of God, until we haven't 00:41:07.070 --> 00:41:09.789 done it yet. So these are still necessary. To 00:41:09.789 --> 00:41:12.289 mature manhood, to the measure of the stature 00:41:12.289 --> 00:41:14.530 of the fullness of Christ so that we may no longer 00:41:14.530 --> 00:41:16.849 be children. He's saying it's time to grow up 00:41:16.849 --> 00:41:19.500 and mature. tossed to and fro by the waves and 00:41:19.500 --> 00:41:21.119 carried about by every wind of doctrine, because 00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.099 that's what he was riding against in the prison 00:41:23.099 --> 00:41:25.440 epistles. All these doctrines were being pulled 00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:30.079 into the church from culture and paganism. He 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:34.599 says this, by human cunning, by craftiness and 00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:37.000 deceitful schemes. Then he says, and this is 00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:39.840 a scripture that I would say the progressives 00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:44.059 have camped out on. He says this, rather speaking 00:41:44.059 --> 00:41:48.420 the truth in love. We are to grow up in every 00:41:48.420 --> 00:41:51.280 way into him who is the head of Christ head the 00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:54.219 head into Christ So there it is speaking the 00:41:54.219 --> 00:41:56.579 truth and love this phrase has been co -opted 00:41:56.579 --> 00:41:59.659 to use Oh, yeah, the only thing stronger than 00:41:59.659 --> 00:42:02.880 hate is love. That's right, you know pastor so 00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:07.420 I had someone come at me online and They told 00:42:07.420 --> 00:42:10.480 me pastor love thy neighbor. In fact, let me 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:12.320 just let me just give this to you because this 00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.739 folds right into this Oh, that's no coincidence. 00:42:16.099 --> 00:42:19.360 So listen to this. This person writes me, can 00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:21.980 you explain why you think Telerico is unbiblical 00:42:21.980 --> 00:42:26.920 and you presumably think Trump and Paxton and 00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:30.179 the rest are upstanding Christians? I never mentioned 00:42:30.179 --> 00:42:35.360 Trump or Paxton. She's projecting. It's very 00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:37.260 confusing. Personally, I think Jesus' teachings 00:42:37.260 --> 00:42:41.599 have totally been disregarded by our leadership 00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:44.309 at the state and national level. Then she says 00:42:44.309 --> 00:42:47.869 this, I also think preachers should not try to 00:42:47.869 --> 00:42:52.230 influence politics. It is not your role and it's 00:42:52.230 --> 00:42:56.530 wrong. Love thy neighbor, pastor. That is like 00:42:56.530 --> 00:42:59.469 saying, sick them to a dog to me. That's like, 00:42:59.510 --> 00:43:03.230 put on the gloves. So I respond, thanks for your 00:43:03.230 --> 00:43:06.610 comment. As for preachers not influencing politics, 00:43:06.750 --> 00:43:08.730 look up the black robe regiment from our founding 00:43:08.730 --> 00:43:11.190 days just before and during the American Revolution. 00:43:11.449 --> 00:43:13.409 Read about Reverend Jonas Clark, who preached 00:43:13.409 --> 00:43:15.829 over 3 ,000 sermons on liberty and freedom from 00:43:15.829 --> 00:43:18.050 tyranny. The Minutemen, who stood against the 00:43:18.050 --> 00:43:20.449 British military machine on Lexington Green, 00:43:20.929 --> 00:43:24.630 were members of his church. Also, I'm not a pastor 00:43:24.630 --> 00:43:27.309 who's chasing politics. Politics and policy showed 00:43:27.309 --> 00:43:30.369 up on my front porch. To not speak out, which 00:43:30.369 --> 00:43:33.050 I'm grateful for the freedom to do, is to be 00:43:33.050 --> 00:43:35.550 complicit when others are already speaking out. 00:43:35.929 --> 00:43:39.070 I'm in my lane as a shepherd in the body of Christ. 00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:41.679 and I never touted President Trump and Attorney 00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:44.199 General Ken Paxton as models for the Christian 00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:48.500 life. Again, thanks for your comment. So this 00:43:48.500 --> 00:43:51.500 projection that happens, the next person just 00:43:51.500 --> 00:43:54.059 called me out, out a hypocrite. I said, oh, now 00:43:54.059 --> 00:43:55.639 we're calling names. Now we're name calling. 00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:58.719 Okay. So it just, it went down from there and 00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:00.420 I decided, okay, I'm going to stop. As it always 00:44:00.420 --> 00:44:04.840 is on social media. But I read that. I think 00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:06.780 it's important because sometimes people think, 00:44:07.099 --> 00:44:10.539 you know, because you're a Christian, but especially 00:44:10.539 --> 00:44:13.099 if you're a pastor, you need to stay out of politics. 00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:16.719 And it's like I explained, I'm not chasing politics. 00:44:17.340 --> 00:44:20.360 Policy, which shapes all of our lives, whether 00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:22.019 you're a pastor or not, it doesn't matter who 00:44:22.019 --> 00:44:24.360 you are, you're going to be impacted by policy. 00:44:24.940 --> 00:44:28.300 And so we've been given, according to our constitution, 00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:33.179 the right to vote and to speak into policy. So 00:44:33.179 --> 00:44:36.719 for me not to, because I'm a pastor, just have 00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:40.639 your Bible study over here. This is what, I'm 00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:44.239 just going to say it, Adolf Hitler told the pastors 00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:47.699 in Germany, go see the movie. Do your church, 00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:50.960 have your Bible studies, but stay out of my way. 00:44:51.019 --> 00:44:53.400 Yep. And the minute they started to do it, that 00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:56.619 was the end of that preacher. It destroyed them. 00:44:56.619 --> 00:45:00.179 Yep. And so when I hear this, and I think, you 00:45:00.179 --> 00:45:03.659 know, more than one sign of the Declaration of 00:45:03.659 --> 00:45:06.539 Independence was a pastor. Many of them were 00:45:06.539 --> 00:45:09.280 deacons and elders in churches. These were men 00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:13.000 who were well read in the scriptures. It's been, 00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:15.199 there was a study done in Maryland and they found 00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:18.739 that 33 % of the content of the Declaration of 00:45:18.739 --> 00:45:21.840 Independence came out of the Bible. Yeah, directly. 00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:25.219 Directly. And so to say that, because you're 00:45:25.219 --> 00:45:29.079 a pastor, it's wrong for you to do this. Love 00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:31.300 thy neighbor, pastor. Well, it's even crazier 00:45:31.300 --> 00:45:35.030 because look at what Talarico is doing. He is 00:45:35.030 --> 00:45:37.510 literally, the whole sermon was political. Which 00:45:37.510 --> 00:45:40.309 is why I said, as others are doing. Yes. You 00:45:40.309 --> 00:45:43.610 know, and so I have a right, for me not to speak 00:45:43.610 --> 00:45:47.250 is to be complicit and I won't do that. I'm going 00:45:47.250 --> 00:45:49.590 to take a sharp right turn here since we've been 00:45:49.590 --> 00:45:53.369 talking about labeling people and how words matter 00:45:53.369 --> 00:45:55.769 and we've learned in the course of doing this 00:45:55.769 --> 00:45:59.289 podcast, how even the term supporting Israel 00:45:59.289 --> 00:46:03.730 can be misconstrued. True. This is, I just pulled 00:46:03.730 --> 00:46:07.010 this clip, it's about a minute and a half, about 00:46:07.010 --> 00:46:12.329 the difference between Muslim, Islam, and Islamists, 00:46:12.349 --> 00:46:15.849 because we've got a lot of fear being propagated, 00:46:16.050 --> 00:46:19.210 particularly in Texas, and as long as we have 00:46:19.210 --> 00:46:22.110 the right terms, I think we'll be okay. What 00:46:22.110 --> 00:46:25.829 is the difference between Islamic and Islamist? 00:46:26.130 --> 00:46:29.250 These two words sound very similar, but there 00:46:29.250 --> 00:46:32.210 are big differences between them. Islamist is 00:46:32.210 --> 00:46:35.690 the name for a dystopian ideology, which is destructive 00:46:35.690 --> 00:46:39.510 for everyone, including Muslims. Islamic is an 00:46:39.510 --> 00:46:42.769 adjective for Muslims. The threat we face is 00:46:42.769 --> 00:46:46.289 from Islamists and not from Muslims. So when 00:46:46.289 --> 00:46:48.789 we talk about radicals or a radical ideology, 00:46:49.469 --> 00:46:53.710 the right term to use is not Islamic, but Islamist. 00:46:53.989 --> 00:46:56.969 The difference is huge. There's over 1 .5 billion 00:46:56.969 --> 00:46:59.349 Muslims in the world. targeting all of them as 00:46:59.349 --> 00:47:02.269 a threat will not only not defeat Islamism, but 00:47:02.269 --> 00:47:05.070 also help radicalize more people. In this regard, 00:47:05.210 --> 00:47:08.269 a useful analogy I have in mind is the relationship 00:47:08.269 --> 00:47:10.769 between communism and the working class, which 00:47:10.769 --> 00:47:13.530 I think is very similar to the relationship between 00:47:13.530 --> 00:47:17.369 Islamists and Muslims. During the Cold War, communism 00:47:17.369 --> 00:47:21.090 as an ideology tried to drive legitimacy from, 00:47:21.210 --> 00:47:23.539 stand for, and recruit from among the working 00:47:23.539 --> 00:47:26.099 class. We did not let that happen. We targeted 00:47:26.099 --> 00:47:29.800 communism, but not the working class. Now, Islamism 00:47:29.800 --> 00:47:33.219 tries to derive legitimacy from, stand for, and 00:47:33.219 --> 00:47:35.619 recruit from among Muslims. We should not confuse 00:47:35.619 --> 00:47:38.219 the two. We should target Islamism, the ideology, 00:47:38.619 --> 00:47:41.059 the communism of the period, and not the working 00:47:41.059 --> 00:47:43.760 class or the Muslim population. Confusing the 00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:46.719 two would be a huge disaster. Imagine what would 00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:49.119 have happened in the Cold War if we had targeted 00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.650 all working class people as communists. we would 00:47:51.650 --> 00:47:53.789 have lost the Cold War. That's the trap we have 00:47:53.789 --> 00:47:57.170 to avoid today, not target all Muslims as Islamists. 00:47:57.349 --> 00:47:59.750 The difference is small in words, but huge in 00:47:59.750 --> 00:48:03.829 consequences. It is. And I hear a lot of people 00:48:03.829 --> 00:48:08.010 saying, the Muslims are taking over. All these 00:48:08.010 --> 00:48:11.909 different things that are being shown to us, 00:48:12.050 --> 00:48:18.710 I believe, as a part of a gathering of conservatives 00:48:18.710 --> 00:48:22.639 to make sure that you vote for Republican representatives 00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:25.059 because they'll protect you from the evil Muslims. 00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:29.019 We've got Tommy Robinson, who I like, from the 00:48:29.019 --> 00:48:31.559 UK. He's doing interviews, going to churches 00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:35.300 all over the country right now, saying, yo, they're 00:48:35.300 --> 00:48:38.599 on your doorstep. It's coming. Don't let happen 00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:43.199 here. What happened in the UK? I mean, that was 00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:46.579 an immigration issue, not just a religious issue. 00:48:48.700 --> 00:48:52.780 So it's important, by the way, what country has 00:48:52.780 --> 00:48:56.239 the most Muslims in the world? It's not Iran. 00:48:56.599 --> 00:49:01.280 It's not Saudi Arabia. It's India. That's where 00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:05.860 the majority live. So I think we need to be very 00:49:05.860 --> 00:49:09.940 careful not to look at a certain kind of person 00:49:09.940 --> 00:49:13.320 and say, you're a threat to me. Right. That's 00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:16.650 overgeneralization. But I'm going to be honest, 00:49:16.710 --> 00:49:18.949 I'm going to be very transparent that when I 00:49:18.949 --> 00:49:24.070 board a plane and I see some men get on the plane 00:49:24.070 --> 00:49:26.610 of Eastern descent, I would love to say that 00:49:26.610 --> 00:49:29.909 doesn't bother me a bit. I'd love to say I'm 00:49:29.909 --> 00:49:33.510 completely inoculated from that. Wow. But I'm 00:49:33.510 --> 00:49:36.389 just being real. Yeah. I don't have that, but 00:49:36.389 --> 00:49:40.769 I understand. That's amazing. I do. And most 00:49:40.769 --> 00:49:46.869 people do because What has been reported on over 00:49:46.869 --> 00:49:49.670 and over, and I don't think it's all lies, is 00:49:49.670 --> 00:49:53.210 that a lot of atrocities have been committed 00:49:53.210 --> 00:49:58.030 by people that have been labeled under this. 00:49:58.250 --> 00:50:01.849 Absolutely. And so over time, it has generated 00:50:01.849 --> 00:50:04.889 a momentum of its own, almost a perpetual motion 00:50:04.889 --> 00:50:08.070 thing. And is that racist? I don't know if that's 00:50:08.070 --> 00:50:13.490 even a right definition of racism, but Honestly, 00:50:13.490 --> 00:50:17.710 I get nervous if I board a plane and I see several 00:50:17.710 --> 00:50:21.889 people of Eastern descent get on the plane. I 00:50:21.889 --> 00:50:24.730 don't get paranoid. I'm not angry. I'm just going, 00:50:25.210 --> 00:50:29.469 hmm. You know, so I know I'm just being real. 00:50:29.489 --> 00:50:32.469 No, no, that's fine. Do you have the same feeling? 00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:35.679 when you see a map on Instagram and it shows 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:37.699 all the mosques that have popped up, do you get 00:50:37.699 --> 00:50:40.800 the feeling that they're taking over and we're 00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:43.159 in trouble and we have to be careful? Okay, I'd 00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:48.119 be lying if I said I don't share your open arms, 00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:52.699 you know, to that. I didn't grow up around Muslims. 00:50:53.019 --> 00:50:54.860 You said you did. You've had friends and you 00:50:54.860 --> 00:50:57.619 knew people who were, by all accounts, kind of 00:50:57.619 --> 00:51:01.699 normal. And it's true that the radicalized version 00:51:01.699 --> 00:51:06.659 is very small percentile of the Islam, of the 00:51:06.659 --> 00:51:08.400 Muslim. It would almost be, to me it's almost 00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:14.679 like, in Ireland we should be worried about Catholics 00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:16.639 because the IRA were Catholics and they were 00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:18.599 bombing everybody. I'm not saying it's perfect 00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:21.139 or that it's right. I'm just saying I know that 00:51:21.139 --> 00:51:24.380 that's there in me and it's been because of what's 00:51:24.380 --> 00:51:27.539 been portrayed to us. And I don't know that it's 00:51:27.539 --> 00:51:30.699 all off. I think the majority of it probably 00:51:30.699 --> 00:51:35.000 is, or at least it was for a reason. But there 00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:39.039 is that sense. And I'm a Texan. I grew up here. 00:51:39.260 --> 00:51:42.320 And when I heard about Epic City, which became 00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:46.260 the Meadows, that bothered me. There was something 00:51:46.260 --> 00:51:48.760 in me, and it wasn't just because some conservative 00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:51.599 is yelling it, of saying, okay, they really are 00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:54.659 putting together their own community. That's 00:51:54.659 --> 00:51:57.159 not unusual. L .A. has, you know, a little China. 00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:00.699 I mean, Manhattan has, I mean, different areas 00:52:00.699 --> 00:52:04.559 have their own sections and whatnot. But then 00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:06.360 we're told, you know, they're going to be under 00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:10.840 Sharia law. I did a little word say on Sharia 00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:14.139 law. It's not all that bad. I mean, most of it's 00:52:14.139 --> 00:52:16.599 not. It's the radicalized version of this stuff 00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:20.730 that's so dangerous. To say that I'm not concerned, 00:52:20.949 --> 00:52:23.929 I would be lying. When we were in Paris in 19, 00:52:24.849 --> 00:52:27.070 we're walking up and down the Louvre, power shopping, 00:52:27.250 --> 00:52:29.710 you know, doing all that and enjoying the... 00:52:29.710 --> 00:52:32.769 And I'm having to literally step over and walk 00:52:32.769 --> 00:52:35.650 around people at a certain time of day when they 00:52:35.650 --> 00:52:39.170 stop, drop and do their thing. And at that time, 00:52:39.250 --> 00:52:41.800 they weren't blowing the... the sirens, you know, 00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:44.340 the sound. I know that sound. Well, that to me 00:52:44.340 --> 00:52:47.760 is unacceptable because we just have laws, ordinance 00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:50.800 laws. You can't be disturbing the peace like 00:52:50.800 --> 00:52:52.179 that. But the concern is that's going to happen. 00:52:52.340 --> 00:52:56.079 If there's a neighborhood or group or epic city 00:52:56.079 --> 00:53:00.079 or whatever, you know, and things are being reported 00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:02.679 out of New York City right now that, you know, 00:53:02.699 --> 00:53:05.440 they're going around on horseback enforcing Sharia 00:53:05.440 --> 00:53:08.570 law. Haven't really seen anything that's true. 00:53:08.670 --> 00:53:12.690 That's the problem. And that's what I'm pushing 00:53:12.690 --> 00:53:16.969 back against. Let's not be fearful of everything 00:53:16.969 --> 00:53:20.590 and everybody that moves. I agree with that. 00:53:20.590 --> 00:53:23.329 Lots of people have fears on getting on an airplane. 00:53:24.539 --> 00:53:27.139 for all kinds of reasons. And in America, we 00:53:27.139 --> 00:53:29.079 certainly have been programmed over the last 00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:30.420 25 years. I'm not excited about everything that's 00:53:30.420 --> 00:53:32.539 happened with computer systems on airplanes either. 00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:34.780 So I mean, you're taking a chance either way. 00:53:34.940 --> 00:53:37.260 There's all kinds of things. I want to be transparent 00:53:37.260 --> 00:53:38.840 about that because I don't want to come off as 00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:41.780 those, you know, I'm somehow over all this stuff. 00:53:42.219 --> 00:53:44.619 Ever since 9 -1 -1, you know, before 9 -1 -1, 00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:46.599 I would have never thought a thing about it. 00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:50.610 But after 9 -11, it was like, It was so impactful 00:53:50.610 --> 00:53:53.309 to our nature and our culture. But by the same 00:53:53.309 --> 00:53:59.289 token, we have legions of people who see a Hasidic 00:53:59.289 --> 00:54:02.530 Jew and think bad, something bad is going to 00:54:02.530 --> 00:54:04.670 happen. They're in control of something. All 00:54:04.670 --> 00:54:06.210 of this is a problem. I have a friend who grew 00:54:06.210 --> 00:54:08.670 up in New York and he's convinced that Jewish 00:54:08.670 --> 00:54:12.690 are horrible people. And I can't talk him out 00:54:12.690 --> 00:54:15.610 of that. He grew up in that culture, in the borough 00:54:15.610 --> 00:54:19.019 there. And so I can't talk him out of it. He 00:54:19.019 --> 00:54:21.340 cringes every time we pray for him. I guess what 00:54:21.340 --> 00:54:25.239 I'm saying is, I'm just trying not to be terrorized 00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:30.320 by it because that is podcast continuously. Be 00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:33.380 afraid, be afraid. Oh, it's coming. That's the 00:54:33.380 --> 00:54:35.159 thing that bothers me. Breaking news, alert, 00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:37.519 alert. I know all of that. That bugs me a lot 00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:40.300 because people come to me and say, what's going 00:54:40.300 --> 00:54:42.159 on? I'm like, well... You don't really have to 00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:44.280 worry about, well, do you know that they're doing 00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:46.719 this? Do you know that they're setting up halal 00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:49.400 kitchens in schools? I don't know. Maybe, maybe 00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:53.019 on Instagram, maybe true. I don't know. But that, 00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:56.019 that you're being abused is what I'm saying. 00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:59.599 Yeah. From the media for sure. And entities. 00:55:00.219 --> 00:55:03.139 So not, not saying you shouldn't be cautious 00:55:03.139 --> 00:55:05.039 in life. There's lots of things to be cautious 00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:08.280 of. Yeah. But you're being abused. by groups, 00:55:09.219 --> 00:55:13.840 forces, spiritual, in the heavenly realms. You're 00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:17.639 being abused for things that you're not aware 00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:21.480 of. I just don't want people to live in fear 00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:25.280 constantly. That's really what it is. But I also 00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:27.199 want to be honest about my own feelings here 00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:29.780 because I don't want to ever come off as like… 00:55:29.869 --> 00:55:32.210 And not a care in the world, you know, he's got 00:55:32.210 --> 00:55:34.570 it all together. No, I'm a human being being 00:55:34.570 --> 00:55:37.449 human too. And so, and I'm not afraid to talk 00:55:37.449 --> 00:55:40.349 about that and say, gosh, I've got some of these 00:55:40.349 --> 00:55:45.610 concerns myself. Can I end on a word? Only after 00:55:45.610 --> 00:55:48.969 you thank Jody. Oh, is that the pickle girl? 00:55:49.210 --> 00:55:51.789 Yes. Jody, I love you. I don't know you, but 00:55:51.789 --> 00:55:53.849 I would hug your neck if you were right here 00:55:53.849 --> 00:55:57.420 in this studio right now, literally. So I cracked 00:55:57.420 --> 00:56:01.280 them open the other night and I so almost didn't 00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:03.159 give Annette some. I was like, I had them in 00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:04.599 my backpack. She didn't even know I had them. 00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:06.780 I was like, she's not listening to the podcast. 00:56:06.980 --> 00:56:10.059 She doesn't even know that Adam came through 00:56:10.059 --> 00:56:12.880 on his commitment to give me these pickles. I 00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:14.920 should actually mention because she did send 00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:20.960 me a note. She said, actually her friend, Beau 00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:27.219 Lacoste, he makes the pickles. But she is now 00:56:27.219 --> 00:56:32.280 talking to him about changing the name to Pickle 00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:39.059 Princess because of our talking about it. And 00:56:39.059 --> 00:56:43.539 anyway, she found our podcast and she loves it. 00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:47.619 So cool. Well, thank you, Jody. Pickle princess. 00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:49.480 I don't know. Maybe that'll work. Did you say 00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:51.480 Bo? What was the one that makes them? Yeah. Bola 00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:54.139 cost. Bola cost. So I cracked it open. I said, 00:56:54.420 --> 00:56:57.780 Annette, I want you to try this. And man, she 00:56:57.780 --> 00:56:59.219 was like, I want another one of those. And no, 00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:01.440 no, no. We're going to ration these. We have 00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:04.420 one jar. You can have a little bit onion sliver. 00:57:04.420 --> 00:57:06.119 Yeah. Yeah. You can have an onion here. You have 00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:10.630 a pickled jalapeno. It's sweet. Man, seriously, 00:57:10.710 --> 00:57:12.949 the best pickle I've ever put in my mouth. Absolutely. 00:57:13.269 --> 00:57:15.329 It's all I can do to not just eat the whole jar. 00:57:15.469 --> 00:57:19.889 So thank you. So hey, and I did something. I 00:57:19.889 --> 00:57:22.289 hope it's okay. I didn't even ask you, but I 00:57:22.289 --> 00:57:25.730 took livingupinadoworld .com, our newsletter. 00:57:26.230 --> 00:57:28.929 I sent out a newsletter to all of our subscribers 00:57:28.929 --> 00:57:31.389 saying, hey, we're making a little switcheroo. 00:57:31.449 --> 00:57:34.010 Yeah, you're on the list. Making a little switcheroo. 00:57:34.309 --> 00:57:37.989 And so I didn't put a support appeal on that. 00:57:37.989 --> 00:57:40.190 I just said, hey, subscribe to the newsletter. 00:57:40.650 --> 00:57:42.829 That way he can let you know. So I know, I know 00:57:42.829 --> 00:57:45.050 we've got some things in the works there coming, 00:57:45.670 --> 00:57:47.489 but in the short -term interim, I'm going to 00:57:47.489 --> 00:57:49.550 bump that out to all of our followers to say, 00:57:49.809 --> 00:57:53.409 Hey man, check out, we get to do this. Yes. Well, 00:57:53.530 --> 00:57:56.949 Tina, the keeper has said, Hey, I think it's 00:57:56.949 --> 00:58:01.409 time for you guys to get serious. She wants to 00:58:01.409 --> 00:58:06.369 do the marketing. which is her wheelhouse. Over 00:58:06.369 --> 00:58:08.090 the next few weeks, we're going to get stuff 00:58:08.090 --> 00:58:10.269 started. In the short term, I'm just sending 00:58:10.269 --> 00:58:13.170 that out to Marsha's drivers and saying, hey, 00:58:13.329 --> 00:58:16.989 Annette's alive, I promise. She didn't die suddenly. 00:58:17.710 --> 00:58:19.869 The Korean The Keeper has the same issue. It 00:58:19.869 --> 00:58:24.230 was like, well, I think they both feel like maybe 00:58:24.230 --> 00:58:26.030 we're just supposed to do separate podcasts so 00:58:26.030 --> 00:58:28.190 these two can finally do their podcast together. 00:58:28.550 --> 00:58:30.250 I don't know. You want to end on some scripture, 00:58:30.250 --> 00:58:34.369 brother? a heart and really it even goes back 00:58:34.369 --> 00:58:36.610 to what we talked about with Islam and and that 00:58:36.610 --> 00:58:39.230 is this heart this idea of grace this idea of 00:58:39.230 --> 00:58:41.469 grace and that's one of the things I pray for 00:58:41.469 --> 00:58:44.849 God you've shown me so much grace help me turn 00:58:44.849 --> 00:58:49.329 that towards others everybody so this is out 00:58:49.329 --> 00:58:54.530 of John 1 16 listen to this for from his fullness 00:58:54.530 --> 00:58:59.650 we have all received grace upon grace that word 00:58:59.650 --> 00:59:03.239 upon is also its primary proposition, and can 00:59:03.239 --> 00:59:08.280 also be because. So think about it. From His 00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:12.119 fullness, we have all received grace because 00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:16.679 of grace. Because this is the heart. The Scripture 00:59:16.679 --> 00:59:19.639 in another place even calls the New Testament 00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:24.099 the gospel of grace. But we don't always know 00:59:24.099 --> 00:59:27.059 what it means. We think it's just some soft buffer. 00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:30.900 Yeah, like passive. Nice. Oh, yeah. Sweet. Warm. 00:59:30.980 --> 00:59:34.440 Kindness. Be sweet. Almost reeks a little bit 00:59:34.440 --> 00:59:37.199 of Talarico's language, so I want to clarify. 00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:41.880 So here, the title of it today is The Grace Empowered 00:59:41.880 --> 00:59:44.260 Life. Now that might give you a little clue where 00:59:44.260 --> 00:59:46.960 I'm going with this. Empowered. So the Daily 00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:48.239 Grind, I'm not going to read it like a Daily 00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:50.239 Grind, I'm just going to read it. We who are 00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:53.440 in Christ have received out of God's fullness, 00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:55.300 by the way, the word fullness there, I did a 00:59:55.300 --> 00:59:59.019 little dig on that. It literally means overflowing. 00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:03.840 It means absolutely overwhelmed. It's full and 01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:06.940 overflowing. It's more than enough. Out of God's 01:00:06.940 --> 01:00:09.780 fullness, completeness and abundance. All those 01:00:09.780 --> 01:00:13.760 are words that mean fullness. Grace upon grace, 01:00:14.219 --> 01:00:18.070 or grace because of grace. Remember, this is 01:00:18.070 --> 01:00:21.230 important to know what grace is. It's God's strength, 01:00:21.469 --> 01:00:24.610 it's God's power, it's God's authority, God's 01:00:24.610 --> 01:00:28.590 ability, and God's favor to do what you cannot 01:00:28.590 --> 01:00:32.510 do in and of yourself. This is what grace does. 01:00:32.610 --> 01:00:36.010 It empowers us beyond us. It's the engine. It 01:00:36.010 --> 01:00:41.610 is. It's the word supernatural. Supernatural 01:00:41.610 --> 01:00:43.969 only means super means overimposed. It means 01:00:43.969 --> 01:00:47.159 it's imposed over something. So you've got the 01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:49.639 natural life, but then you've got the supernatural 01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:53.219 life. And that's what this is saying. Grace over 01:00:53.219 --> 01:00:57.079 grace. Grace upon grace. Because of grace. And 01:00:57.079 --> 01:01:00.000 because of that, we can live a supernatural, 01:01:00.019 --> 01:01:03.900 it means above nature kind of life. Out of God's 01:01:03.900 --> 01:01:07.800 abundance of love and mercy, He has offered and 01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:11.440 we have received His empowering and overflowing 01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:15.539 grace. This is Pastor Jimmy Pruitt. Have an amazing 01:01:15.539 --> 01:01:19.059 day. On purpose. We'll be back next week. Love 01:01:19.059 --> 01:01:20.840 you, brother. Love you. I love you, brother. 01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:22.760 It's so much fun to do this. We'll see you next 01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:23.880 week. We get to do this.