Father God, we honor you today and what we do
and we're thankful for those who will hear this.
Lord bless them, encourage them, lift them up,
build them up. That's our heart for people. And
Lord, give us words to say it would bring life
and encouragement to everyone. Father, our heart
means this, that we get to do this and we honor
you in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. It's Wednesday,
January 21st, 2026. We get to do this. This is
episode number 19. Hey, brother. Brother, it's
true. We do get to do this. We get to do this.
I know I'll wear this thing out. I'm just like
beating a dead horse, but it's true. I love it.
I hear it. It really is true. Sunday you're preaching
and I'm like, he's promoting the podcast. We
get to do this. Oh, there he goes promoting the
podcast again. Shameless. Shameless. I love it.
I love it. I love it. It's because we believe
in what we're doing. If I didn't believe in this,
this was just like a fun side thing. You'd never
hear about it, but I really believe that what
we're doing on here matters. Oh, 100%. And so,
and it's helping people because we're getting
feedback. People are writing and... Well, the
best is when I come into church Sunday and people
are like, hey, you know, this is what you pass
to Jimmy and blah, blah, blah about this and
talk about that and blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Yeah.
It's nice. It's really, really nice. And since
I haven't been able to talk about it on the show
because I was restricted, you know, my First
Amendment rights were thwarted, I'm going to
be a grandpop. Oh, there you go. Okay. Now it's
official. You can talk about it. Yeah, I can.
Where are you going with this? Did I tell him
he could say that on the air? No, no, no, no,
no. Nothing is off limits. No. So I'll just tell
the story because I haven't been able to tell
anybody. So my daughter Christina and her, I
call him the fiance because they will get married,
although I've not received any requests as such.
I could marry them over Zoom. Oh, man. We could
get that done. I love it. We can get it done.
I'm going to tell her that. That would be a first
for me, by the way. That would be pretty awesome.
So they came to visit us for the holidays, and
they came in like 730, 8 o 'clock at night. They
had a long flight, and then they just drive from
Austin. So they're just hanging out. We're having
a little... I think, actually, we gave them something
to eat. And the Christina said, well, I have
to give you one of your Christmas presents now.
We're like, well, why don't you just wait until
Christmas? No, no, no. So we had to close our
eyes. And there's lots of shuffling. And I didn't
know what was going on. I said, OK, you can open
them. And we each had a t -shirt. with our grandparent
names on it. Whoa. That's cool. You didn't even
tell me that. Yeah. And it says, you know, grand
pop. And then on the back, it says coming July,
2026. Oh, man. That is awesome. And all of the
sonogram pictures. And it was just, I mean, that
is beautiful. And Kevin filmed it. He filmed
the minute we opened. I love Kevin, by the way.
He's a good man. He really is. Well, I'm glad
he has your approval. I'm not texting anybody.
Yes, you are. I'm officially an old dude now.
I've got hearing aids. Look, I'm adjusting. You're
a modern old dude. A modern old dude sits with
his headphones on and says, excuse me, I'm adjusting
my hearing aids for the perfect sound. I'm getting
the right sound for an audio file. I'm still
taking them out. Would that get the headphones
on? I like it because, and I have my headphones
loud as you can see the difference there, but
I don't know, my ears are then conditioned to
something else and it sounds fresh and I just
really, really like it. It sounds good to me
because it balances the sound out. For example,
if I don't have them in, I have to compensate.
And I can't on this shit. No, you can't. No,
you can't. So it's just better to have them in.
Everything's balanced. And I can adjust them.
For those who are wondering, these are the Jabra.
What is it? 700? Yeah, 700 model. You got that
right. And we got them just as old mans on. We
got a deal on them, because they're now, you
know, 1999. We got them for 1600, didn't we?
Oh, I didn't know that was up. I didn't know
they were up that high, but oh, man. We bought
them together. That's real brotherly love. Brotherly
love, man. Hey, I want to thank you for your
daily grind devotional today. You're doing every
single day, seven days a week, almost 365 a year.
You might take a couple days off here or there.
You're lucky with no agenda. It just never stops.
It basically never stops. I love some alliteration
with the Jimmy -ism, and you had in here, the
desert is not a detour. It's part of the calling.
It's such seasoned self -awareness is grace.
You want to just explain about this Daily Grind,
and I'll tell you why it affected me and what
it meant to me? Yeah, so first of all, I've written
these things for over 20 years. I've got... Tens
of thousands of them. I rarely repeat them every
once in a while if I'm in a bind You and John
so sometimes I'll dip into the archives but very
rarely actually I Started doing it as a discipline
Because I was always reading devotionals. Mm
-hmm. And one day it dawned on me. Why don't
I just write one? Yeah Now, I wasn't thinking
about writing a book. I just meant writing a
daily, something in the morning to keep my focus,
which is what a devotional does. It turns out
it basically is. I'm writing a devotional. It's
as good for you as it is for the readers. Exactly.
It is good for me. That's it. My electronic journal
is full of them, thousands of them. And so I
write one every day and I've sent it out to friends.
I put it on social media. What I like about your
devotionals is because we're friends and we talk
a lot. I can always see, oh yeah, he probably
wrote this because of this was going on or this
headspace or something like that. And I sometimes
think that our conversations may influence them
because that's how it felt to me. I didn't actually
put the scripture in here in my notes. I got
it right here in front of me. So, it's Luke 4
-1. I love that passage. I took my own advice
this morning, Scripture before screens, read
my Bible. Over here, didn't open anything up.
I did the roulette thing through the New Testament,
where you just kind of thumb. Needle drop. Oh
yeah, I do it all the time. I've got a lot of
marks in my Bible, so things will pop up. Then
I was thinking, because I've landed on something
else. I was like, man, I love that whole scenario
around the Holy Spirit leading Jesus into the
wilderness. Whoa, I mean, just boom, came out
of nowhere, out of nowhere. So I just turned
over there in my Bible and then I wrote on that
and things just begin to flow out of me. And
I do that every day. I mean, I've done it for
20 plus years. I'm really underselling it. Probably
30 years, close to 30 years I've been doing it.
So today I talked about where power is formed
because of these desert seasons that we all go
through and everybody goes through them. You
don't even have to be a Christian and you can
recognize, man, I'm in a dry season, right? Things
aren't flowing. My creativity is not happening.
I'm not getting new ideas. I'm in a funk, you
know, I don't feel good. I mean, so we all have
them. The interesting thing is, though, as a
Christian, a follower of Jesus, we actually realize
God is using that season to form us. One of my
mentors, Pastor Kevin York, mentored me for years,
still does from a distance, but we were dear
friends for many years, and then life took our
proximities into different places. And he said
something to me years ago. I was on the phone.
I was complaining about something. I was really
mad. I was leading a church. He's like a big
time pastor. and you're mentoring young Timothy
here, Jimmy, like Paul mentoring Timothy, and
I'm sort of mad about something. He said, Jimmy,
God is forming a man. And I was like, that's
it? That's all you got? And he said, and God
is forming a woman, talking about Annette, because
we're going through a hard time. And he said,
Jimmy, this is the anvil of God. That's where
he's forging a new sword. Thanks, Pastor Kevin.
So it did make me feel better, but it brought
clarity to God is forming a man. God is forming
a woman. And I knew enough about a forge because
I had a friend that was a blacksmith and he built
like ornate gates out of iron. And it was a real
deal forge. He'd take me in there. It's like
150 degrees in there. right forearm. He looks
like one of those, you know, arm wrestler guys
whose right arm is bigger than their other arm.
That's his hammer arm. His hammer arm. And he,
he would talk about it. He'd hammer on stuff
and heat, pressure, and hammer blows, man. That's
what you do. So yeah, sometimes we're on the
anvil and it hurts. Well, it spoke to me. Go
ahead. Go ahead. No, I'm just going to say it
hurts in the moment, but if you respond well
and respond rightly to it, it actually produces
amazing things. I've learned more in my wilderness
desert seasons than I've ever learned on the
mountaintop. I almost hate to admit that because
I'm not looking forward to the next valley, but
they're a part of life. They're part of it. So
it spoke to me because I had just been in a desert,
and several people helped me get out of that,
you included, and I just wanted to talk about
my experience a little bit as a new Christian
who's learning how to use the Word of God. Because
I had a work situation that was making me very,
very, very unhappy. And there were some things
that were happening, and I was ready to thwart
the advice of 1 Thessalonians 5. I was ready
to repay evil with evil. I was really, really,
I was mad. And it's been going on for a while.
So I'll just read that, 1 Thessalonians 5 .14.
Brothers and sisters, we urge you to warn those
who are lazy. Encourage those who are timid.
Take tender care of those who are weak. Be patient
with everyone. See that no one pays back evil
for evil, but always try to do good to each other
and to all people. Always be joyful. Never stop
praying. Never stop praying is the only part
that I kind of took away. I'm like, I'm not joyful.
I'm thinking about doing evil for evil. as I
was going through this process, it was really
got to the point where I really didn't want to
do this work anymore. And so here comes another,
you know, this is another scripture that kept
going through my mind, you cannot serve two masters,
because I was very worried, like, well, if I
stop this, God, what am I supposed to do to pay
the rent? What am I supposed to do to help the
different people that Tina and I like to help
with the blessings that we get? You mean you
were being human? Yes. A human being being human.
Yes, a human being being human. Those are human
thoughts. But I get where you're going. But it
was really difficult because, and what was so
wonderful, and this is how... Tina who's been
on this faith journey with me how much she has
changed So once I told her what was going on
It's not a new story to her But I've been dealing
wrestling with it for a couple weeks and didn't
really want to say anything Because you know
you in a household. It's like well You know I'm
thinking of stopping doing this and and so that
might mean some different things in our life
And she was so wonderful. She said Take the money
off the table You got to stop that Take that
off the table. We'll be provided for no matter
what happens. And that was very mature, mind
blowing, mind blowing. She said, you need to
be joyful in what you're doing and we'll figure
it out and God will provide for whatever we need.
And she said, we don't need to travel. I don't
need this car. You know, we like the house, but
you know, okay, we'll go live in Jimmy and it's
backyard. I'm like, okay, now you're taking it
too far. So I'm kind of saying it out of order
because I actually spoke to you about it first
because you came over and the girls were off
doing something and I just, I'd like, brother,
I just got to talk to you about something. And
I laid it down and you were so helpful. First
of all, you didn't, you know, you didn't solve
anything. You weren't like, I'm going to tell
you, oh, here's what you do. Hold on a second.
Let me, let me, I'm going to pray over you. Let
me get this scripture. Because you're a friend
too. But I was approaching you as a friend and
I think a pastor at the same time because I'm
really looking towards scripture and a brother.
Yes, exactly. And because I felt that what I
was doing, I was not bringing my godly self to
my job. And you told the story of a friend. I
don't know if you want to retell it. Can you
tell, retell that story? Yeah, the short version
is this. I had a friend, he was in a I started
this men's Bible study with just a handful of
guys. We'd go to church on Wednesday night. This
was back, gosh, a long time ago, probably 2001,
2000. We'd go to church on Wednesday night, and
then this four or five of us would go over to…
I hop and just wolf down some pancakes and then
go to bed. I mean, back then you could do that.
I would not even think of doing that now. But
we always had this great time. We're going through
this. This one guy, he was a sharp young man,
brand new Christian. He's probably in his maybe
early thirties, late twenties, early thirties.
And he said, hey, Jimmy, can I talk to you about
something? Sure. He goes, hey, man, you know,
I'm a new Christian." I said, yeah, I know. I
saw you get baptized. Amazing. I said, I'm so
glad you're in this group. He said, I'm learning
so much. He said, but I'm rusting with something.
I said, well, he goes, he goes, I work for a
very well -known and successful beer distributorship.
And he said, my job is to take beer to all these
different bars, clubs, venues, stores. And he
said, and everybody knows me here. And we were
in West Texas and, you know, He's known in town,
he's respectable, integrity, sharp. And he said,
I'm known and I'm liked and I'm successful in
this business. And he said, I feel like I need
to quit. I said, for why? Why would you quit?
You've worked hard to develop that. And he goes,
but I'm a Christian now and I'm delivering beer.
I said, well, who told you that was illegal?
I mean, why do you think that? He goes, why?
Because it's alcohol and it's beer. And I said,
look, I said, you're going to make more of an
impact staying in that job with the gospel that's
growing in you than you will if you quit and
then from the outside in start trying to tell
people about Jesus. I said, you're on the inside,
brother. I said, you keep doing the same thing
you're doing unless God tells you not to. I'm
very clear and careful about that. I don't tell
people what to do. I said, if God tells you to
step, you need to step. But if he hasn't told
you and you're just wrestling, that until you
know what to do, stay doing what you're doing.
And I said, you'll be a greater witness. Those
people already know you. They'll see the difference,
and you'll honor God with what you do. I said,
jobs are irrelevant, man. It's just what we do
to pay the bills. It's who you are that matters.
And I just let him go and stayed with it. That
story helped me enormously. And as I thought
about it and I prayed about it and I realized
what I got back was, I need to change my heart
posture. That was the thing. In fact, the next
day you texted me, you said, you are not who
you used to be. God can use Adam 2 .0, wherever
he happens to be, be who you are now, not who
you were. And you sent me to Corinthians 5 .17.
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new
creation. The old has gone, the new has come.
And what was amazing is I walked into the situation.
I had changed my heart posture and everything
came out in a beautiful way, in a very respectful
way. Things were settled. Because I was also
reading like, you know, don't go to court with,
you know, try to settle before you go to court.
My whole mind was just flipping out and it was
so wonderful. And I know now, It was really me.
I had to change myself and I had to let the 2
.0 come out. So I want to thank you for that.
And I hope that people hear this because anybody
in this situation, anybody in the desert, and
I did, without this desert thing, I actually,
when I was praying, I'm like, God, are you just
hammering me here? Are you just forging me on
the anvil? That's literally what I was thinking
of without thinking of the desert part. So know
people, know that it works. This Bible thing,
this God thing, it's pretty amazing when you
just get down to it. And I wanted to thank you
for that. Well, first of all, it's a privilege
to walk with you as a friend and as a brother.
That's what we do. And you know what I love is
that from our various backgrounds and what we've
learned and what we've both grown in, in our
various spheres of influence. is we've been able
to encourage and help each other. I've learned
so much and the church is now getting the benefit
of that. Is it okay if I tell our friends that
you're writing a weekly briefing? It's just so
cool. I mean, I love this. So I do a weekly briefing
at my church where I pastor. I've been doing
this for now a couple of years, two and a half,
where I just kind of, what's going on right now?
What's pertinent? what happened this last week
in the world or in our country or locally, that's
important and that you need to hear from your
pastor about and you need to hear from a biblical
worldview, because there's so many lenses out
there that we're seeing things through. The grid
that we get news through is just so tainted,
so broken, so… agenda or targeted good word.
I was going to get there eventually. I got a
lot of words for that, but it's all very slanted,
obviously. So we want to try to bring news that's
accurate, but also through the lens and grid
of the Bible, the Word of God, so that we're
helping our people step away from the ledge,
not jump off of it, but step back from the ledge.
Don't let all this spin you up. That's the point.
You know, drop your cortisol levels a little
bit and let's take some strategic and wise looks
at what's happening through the grid of the Bible.
When you look at the world scene, all the craziness
and politics, global issues, wars and rumors
of wars, economics, all these different things
that are happening, but you look at it through
the grid of the Bible in a biblical and Christian
worldview, You just take a step back and go,
it's going to be okay. Igbok. It's going to be
okay. I saw it on a coffee cup in Tennessee one
time. I thought that was really cool at this
country place. I'm like, I like that. I stole
it. So yeah, it's going to be okay. Why? Because
God has not left the building like Elvis did.
He's not jumped off the throne. He's still steering
the ship. But the Bible is clear. some hard things
have to happen before the end comes, before we
get to the last of the last days. And it's okay.
He's the same as he was and same as he is and
same as he ever will be. So when you read Scripture
and you read the situation, you can apply them.
And you asked me to say, oh, can you give me
a boots on the ground? I wrote one. You said,
hey, can you do that again? Yeah, I kind of like
this. I mean, I'm not a writer, actually. And
so now that we're going to do this, I said, Tina,
babe, you got to help me with Brevity and Grammar.
You made me happy when you said, hey, Tina's
going to help us with grammar and stuff. Grammar
and Brevity. Yay. Because I love what you're
bringing though, Adam. I mean, you're bringing
your experience, your understanding, and lots
of the boots on the ground guys and gals that
you know around the world who are contributing
to this is really what's going on. as opposed
to what you're hearing in the news, the narratives.
And when I do this, and I just write it kind
of on Saturday, I try to focus on really what
people are seeing. And we had already talked
about Minneapolis. Right. And, you know, this
is make no mistake, everything you're seeing
is political. And wow, it just blew up a couple
of days ago. And I wanted to discuss this specifically.
Before I do that, we need to help our listeners,
our family, our church with some terms. We have
to make sure we get these right. People talk
about free speech. I would like everybody who
I know to get into the habit of saying freedom
of speech. It's very specific. The First Amendment
talks about the freedom of speech, not about
free speech. It's a trick. Interesting. And free
speech will soon be used somewhere in the future
to say, well, that's like free isn't free beer.
It's not the same thing. And words really matter.
And so we might as well say, not my freedom of
speech. It's two different things. Oh, that's
so good. Well, you post on X is free speech.
It doesn't cost me anything. That's free speech.
But it's not necessarily freedom of speech. Boy,
that nuance matters, doesn't it? Well, there's
two more. This is one that I fall into all the
time and people remind me. It's Democrat, not
Democratic. So it's not the Democratic governor.
It's not the Democratic mayor. It's the Democrat.
It's the Democrat party. You're right. Words
matter. They try to make you think that they
are the people who own democracy, Democratic.
And you hear it on news all the time. Words matter.
If you get in your mind, no, it's Democrat, not
democratic. Because we do have a democratic system
where the people have a vote. Of course, we are
a constitutional republic of states, which is
a representative system. But we just have to...
It's good. It matters. And the other one is the
First Amendment speaks about peaceably assembling
that is not the same as a peaceful protest. There
you go. It's a very, very, very big difference.
And in fact, let me just read the First Amendment.
Yeah, and then I want you to get, and if I don't
bookmark it, I'll forget what it means to redress,
because we have the right to redress. Yes. Whenever
we... No, I mean, I don't actually have redress.
in this, if you want to discuss it now, the redress
part, because that's how lobbying works. But
there's also a lot of nuances there. I really
wanted to focus on the petition is where that
comes in. So the First Amendment, and people
need to understand, just to reiterate, this is
what the founders, when this document was written,
when the Bill of Rights was written, these were
specifically intended to be restrictions on the
government. This is not rights you are given.
This is not anything that any man gave you. We
have these inalienable rights, and this is codifying
things that the government may not do. And the
government here is called Congress. Congress
shall make no law. That's a restriction. It's
not like you get to have your First Amendment
rights, you get to have your freedom of speech.
No, no. Congress shall make no law. and I always
love this, respecting an establishment of religion.
Just so we know, religion, faith, thinking came
before speech. It was faith before the speech
part, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,
which of course happened within COVID, and we
all need to repent on that, or abridging the
freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right
of the people to peaceably assemble and to petition
the government for a redress of grievances. So,
peaceably assembling is important, the freedom
of speech or of the press, and this is critical
for what just recently happened. The freedom
of the press does not mean that the press can
go anywhere they want. It means the press can
write or report whatever they want. It doesn't
mean that they can come into my house and say,
I'm a journalist, I'm here to report. These are
very, very critical things because, of course,
what I'm alluding to is what every church -going
Christian is talking about right now is what
happened in the Baptist Church in Minneapolis.
And we're making some big mistakes as believers.
The first big mistake we're making is thinking
that this is about God or hating on faith. This
is political, political, political. This is a
Democrat operation meant to put Republicans into
a bad light and even worse, to make Republicans
attack one person, which is Don Lemon. And Don
Lemon has the trifecta. He's homosexual, he's
black, and he's dumb. And I would say that to
his face. He is low IQ because, let me call him
ignorant, would be friendlier, would be friendlier
because he is very ignorant with the things he
says. So if you didn't see what happened, there
was a protest, they went into a church and they
started protesting, no ice, hands up, all of
this different stuff. And Don Lemon is the one
who was being blamed for it, which is a critical
mistake we're making, critical, because now you're
actually fueling fire to the political process
for which this was intended in the first time.
Taking the bait. Taking the bait. So Don Lemon,
and I have several clips on this, who claims
to be a journalist, he's now inside the church
talking to the pastor. and we know he's the pastor
because he's got his little side mic on, as the
people are protesting in the background. This
is very disruptive. I can just imagine this happening
in our church. The outcome probably would have
been different. It would be very different. But,
you know, it terrorized children. It was a scary
moment. So here's this clip. gathering of Christians
in worship. I have to take care of my flock.
Listen, there's a constitution in the First Amendment
to freedom of speech and freedom to assemble
and protest. We're here to worship. We're here
to worship Jesus because that's the hope of these
cities. That's the hope of the world is Jesus
Christ. I want to be very respectful. Please
don't push me though. We're here. We're here
to worship Jesus. That's why we're here. That's
why we're here. That's what we're about. Don't
you think Jesus would be understanding and love
these folks? We're about spreading the love of
Jesus. But did you try to talk to them as a Christian?
No one is willing to talk. I have to take care
of my church and my family. So I ask this, you
actually would also leave this building. Okay,
so Don Lemon's idea here is that there is the
You have the the right to peaceably assemble
we're doing we're under the Constitution man,
that's and let me just I actually looked up P
to peaceably assemble protects gatherings for
lawful purposes, which actually in the legal
context says protest, worship, etc., provided
they are nonviolent and do not pose a clear and
present danger. This is not absolute and is subject
to the distinction between advocacy and incitement.
Time, place, manner restrictions are always taken
into account and peaceably assembling can only
be done in a public place. In fact, law enforcement
has the right to say, you can only do it at this
time in this place. That's how the law has been
interpreted over time. And even the people like
to turn on bull horns and blast it in someone's
face. Believe me, that is not peaceably assembling.
So a protest, and that's the big joke, of course,
we've seen this throughout. the riots throughout
the years. Well, everyone here is protesting
peacefully and this fire is blowing up in the
background. No, peacefully protesting. And we'll
get into some interesting case law and some interesting
actual laws about where you can protest and outside
of certain, peaceably assemble outside of certain
structures. But first, I need everyone to understand
that Don Lemon was in on this from the beginning.
This is not like a journalist who just happened
to be in Minneapolis. This is the day before
he even went to Minneapolis. will probably be
in Minneapolis. So make sure you check us out.
The Don Lemon Show on YouTube, on Twitch, on
Instagram, TikTok, Substack, and anywhere you
get social and streaming. Now, I leave that in
there for a reason, because this is what I mean
by he is ignorant. He does not even know that
he is actually being used for political purposes.
But the political actor is on the scene. Her
name is Nakima Levi Armstrong. She is well known
from the Black Lives Matter movement. She is
a Marxist. She has a consulting company, which
is not like a nonprofit, so I can't look into
the books. But she is an activist, an actor and
activist for the Democrat Party, for Act Blue,
for a political purpose. And I think even so
he's talking to her now before anything started.
He just happens to as a journalist just happens
to show up in the parking lot before this goes
down into Minneapolis a little bit ago and did
some some reconnaissance on the ground and speaking
to an organization there that's gearing up to
for resistance and protest. I've been surprised,
pleasantly surprised to see the community coming
together. diverse community if you see this when
we first pulled up we're like wait a minute what
is which um which operation are we at and as
it turns out because we were like well this is
kind of MAGA coded right saw the american flag
or whatever but these are resistance protesters
they're planning an operation that we're going
to follow them on i can't tell you exactly what
they're doing but it's called operation pull
up And it's the Kima Armstrong, and she has been
doing this since George Floyd, Dante Wright,
and others, where they surprise people, catch
them off guard, and hold them to account. And
so that's what we're doing here. And then we're
after that. After we do this operation, you'll
see it live. And these operations are surprise
operations. Again, I can't tell you where they're
going. OK. Peaceably assembling is not an operation
with a code name, okay? This is a setup. This
is where it becomes apparent. This has nothing
to do with ICE. This has nothing to do with illegal
immigration and whatever is happening in Minneapolis
on the ground. This is now a racial political
operation. Totally picked up on that tone. And
they brought in the expert. She knows exactly
how to do it. And this is Don Lemon talking with
Nakima Levy Armstrong. And by the way, I have
nothing against her. I just want to point out
what she is. What she does, I do have problems
with, obviously, but I had problems with all
kinds of operations that she was involved in.
This is partially inside, and I added this together,
it's very short, but just so you can get an idea
of what they're talking about. Tell us why you're
doing this. This is Operation Pullout, more of
a clandestine operation. We show up somewhere
that is a key location. They don't expect us
to come there. And then we disrupt business as
usual. So that's what we're about to go do right
now. Demanding justice for Renee Good and letting
them know that this will not stand. They cannot
pretend to be a house of God. while harboring
someone who is directing ICE agents to wreak
havoc upon our community and who killed Renee
Good, who almost killed a six -month -old baby.
Enough is enough. I am a reverend on top of being
a lawyer and an activist, so I come here in the
power of the Almighty God. Okay, I'm glad I have
this clip because this now moves over into your
field of expertise, but obviously she's talking
about George Floyd, she's talking about other
black victims of police encounter. There's an
added piece to this, which is the LGBTQ agenda
because Renee Good was claimed to be married
to a woman. You've got Don Lemon, who represents
both. I mean, this is a carefully, carefully
crafted message. She does have a law degree.
She has preached at a church. The reason they
say this church was targeted is because someone
who is in the ICE office in Minneapolis locally
either preaches at the church, is on the board
of the church or attends the church. It's a little
unclear. Notice this was a complete white church.
Somehow I doubt that this would have been done
in a black church, and they're also black ICE
enforcement agents. So just to reiterate, these
people are actually racists. Very much so. And
so when she says this about this as a house of
God, what's your reaction to that? When she says,
and I'm a reverend. Yes. So that somehow validates.
Any schmuck can go online and get them a license
to preach and to marry and bury. Typically what
people do, you can get commissioned by a church
or you can get licensed. And if you can't get
a church to do it, you can certainly find somebody
online to do it. This happens all the time. And
people willy -nilly running around saying, I'm
a pastor, I'm a reverend, I'm a minister. That
means squat. Let me see your 10 ,000 hours. Let's
see how much you've put into this thing. Because
if you're all those other things, you cannot
effectively be that one. You can't have 15 jobs
and do everything you do and say you're a legitimate
representative of God. I'm not even tore up about
her tone and stuff. I'm just sad that people
will look to leverage anything. And what they're
doing, and they don't even realize it, is they
are using people. They're using good people for
their own ends, for their own agenda, which is
dehumanizing in itself. They don't see that church
as a bunch of human beings that they supposedly
love so much. They just see them as a bunch of
nameless, faceless people that will further their
cause if they go disrupt. I'm going to play a
clip out of order here. because this is Don Lemon
today. And by the way, he's in it for the views,
for the likes, for the clicks. I mean, he was
fired from CNN. Now he's on CNN. Everyone's talking
about him. So he loves this. I mean, he'll have
to deal with that in his own life, whatever happens
with him. But this is how he views it now. two
days at three days after the fact. And there's
a certain degree of entitlement. I think people
who are, you know, in the religious groups like
that, it's not the type of Christianity that
I practice, but I think that they're entitled
and that that entitlement comes from a supremacy,
a white supremacy. And they think that this country
was built for them, that it is a Christian country
when actually we left England because we wanted
religious freedom. It's religious freedom. But
only if you're a Christian and only if you're
a white male, pretty much. And so, yeah, absolutely
100 percent. But it's an intimidation tactic.
And, you know, I said, I don't understand how
I've become the face of it when I was a journalist.
I do understand that I'm the biggest name there.
And I'm also, as I was on with my producers this
morning, you know, you and Kylie talk all the
time, my producers were saying, I said, how did
I become the face of this? And my producer said,
Don, you're a gay black man in America. That's
why you were chosen for the operation, Don. That's
why you were there. Sounds like he inserted himself
in the operation. He showed up. He was like,
this is going to bump my ratings. This is going
to bump my validity in the podcast world. These
are users. And he's talking about they're entitled.
When you go interrupt what they're doing, it's
their fault. Mind -bending. And so here's just
the ignorant parts. There's more. of Don Lemon's
thinking first about the First Amendment. these
very kinds of protests. There's nothing in the
Constitution that tells you what time you can
protest. Actually, yes, there is, Don. There
literally is a time, place, and manner. What
time you can protest. You can protest at any
time. That's the whole point of it. It's to disrupt.
It's to make them uncomfortable. And that's what
they're doing. And that's what I believe when
I say everyone has to be willing to sacrifice
something. You have to make people uncomfortable
in these times. So he believes that a First Amendment
right to peaceably assemble means you can disrupt,
you can make people uncomfortable, you can do
it anytime, anywhere you want. We're really,
this is very simple, you know, because, and we're
going to get to the end here. People are now,
Christians are so mad at Don Lemon. Throw him
in jail. Look, they were trespassing. That's
basically what happened. They were trespassing.
And, you know, we could look at all kinds of
different types of trespassing in recent history
where people were thrown in jail immediately.
And so there's a lot of calling for that, you
know, just like January 6th, throw them in jail.
No, no, no. Let's not do evil with evil. Let's
calm down and let's not take the bait because
this has nothing to do with God, has nothing
to do with the church. This is purely political.
It happens, you know, MLK day. I mean, it's all
so obviously set up. And here's Don misunderstanding
the freedom of the press. which cannot be hindered,
which is not about I get to go where I go, but
I get to speak or write or broadcast. I had no
affiliation to that organization. I didn't even
know they were going to this church until we
followed them there. We were there, chronicling
protests. Once the protest started in the church,
we did an act of journalism, which was report
on it and talk to the people who were involved,
which included the pastor, members of the church,
and members of the organization. That's it. It's
called journalism. First Amendment, all that
stuff. All of you people who believe in the First
Amendment, absolutist. There you go. So why don't
you talk to the actual person who is in charge
of the organization and whose idea it was to
have the protest at the church before you start
blaming me for stuff for which you have no idea.
Thank you for your attention to this. Wow. So
he truly believes that the First Amendment protects
him from trespassing, going wherever he wants,
doing whatever he wants to do. And that is not
the First Amendment. It's just not. I think the
blowback was a little more than he expected because
now they're pinning it all on him. And there's
something to be said about that because when
I heard Paul Chappelle, he's the senior pastor
He's the president of the West Coast Baptist
College. So he's now a spokesperson for this
event. He takes the bait. He takes the bait.
Today in Minneapolis, Minnesota, a group of activists
led by Don Lemon stormed a Baptist church by
the name of City's Church. This is a mistake.
And I think, I just want to say, I think it's
a mistake for all the podcast pastors. Don't
go after Don Lemon. Do not take this bait. This
was a racial, trans Maoist agenda these people
had. They don't care. And by taking the bait,
you're literally fueling that fire. And you're
elevating it to a spot where it should not be.
Let's listen to the rest. During their worship
time, they were screaming and chanting, disrupting
the singing and the preaching. because they suspected
an ICE officer may attend the church. This is
a violation of what is known as the FACE Act,
and not only. This is interesting. I see Christians
everywhere. They violated the FACE Act. Do you
know what the FACE Act is? Yes, I do. I think
most people don't. We've seen people that...
It really gets applied to abortion clinics and
places like that. It literally stands for freedom
of access to clinic entrances. It's almost ludicrous
to me that you're now using the very law that
is intended to keep Christians praying near an
abortion clinic. Turning this around, it just
feels like the dumbest thing we could do. It's
mind -blowing to me. It's not well -informed.
No. We condemn this act, but tonight I want to
demand that the Department of Justice investigate
what took place in Minneapolis, apprehend those
who broke the law, and arrest them accordingly.
We must protect religious liberty in this country.
As people meet to worship God, they have been
given legally the right to enter, to worship,
and to leave their place of worship. The Lord
Jesus said in the world... I found this also
interesting because he's kind of convoluting
the First Amendment. This wasn't the government.
These were protesters. These were trespassers.
It just didn't feel right to me, Jimmy. You know,
it's just like, yeah, here's hard in it because
it's, it's shocking. Of course. When we've lived
in a country where very little of this has ever
happened. So, so we don't expect it. So when
it's happened, it's happening all over the world,
but when it happens here, it's shocking. Yeah.
And so when I first heard about it, I was, I
was like, there was a part of me and be like,
man, I'd like to have been there. I would like
to see the dynamic of what's happening. Not because
I want to hurt anybody, but because I'd really
like to pull someone out of that crowd and go,
do you really know what you're doing here and
why you're doing it? And I want to know, I'm
that way. I'm systemic in thinking. So I want
to know what led you to this point where you
felt like it was okay to do this. And you're
going to get the same rage rant probably from
most. But for me, bottom line, Don Lemon is now
on my prayer list. Thank you, Don Lemon. Thank
you. You've given me another person to pray for.
Not against. No. And my message or my thinking,
I don't have a message, but my thinking. You
don't have an agenda, but you have a message.
Correct. We're taking this bait. Here's Adam's
crystal ball. Now it's going to be the Christian
nationalist, and it's going to be label after
label after label, and everyone's going to be
mad online and going back and forth. What's happening
with ICE, it's not pretty to look at. It's a
whole other conversation. But we are a nation
of laws. And, you know, so again, even people
in that church who were saying, you know, we
can talk about the optics and how it looks and
what's happening. But this is not about that.
This is about the midterm 2026 election and the
labeling of Christian nationalists versus the
people who love people. And they're literally
stealing stealing love away from us. I only do
this really for our family, for our church. Anyone
else who's listening to it is great. Don't go
commenting. Don't engage in it. Do not feed the
algorithm because it only pushes it more and
more to the top and it is only intended to divide
us even more. A wise person once said to me,
pick up your Bibles and put down your screens.
And that's exactly what we need to be doing.
What's happening, this dynamic that's come out
of this, is the very reason why I've taken a
big step back from news cycles, news reels, news
feeds, because People are living spun up and
that's the point to create chaos. That's that's
Marxism 101. Yeah sure is create chaos and Any
way they can do it they feel like they've they've
arrived at their objective if they're creating
chaos like that I mean, gosh, Don Lemon's probably
just basking in the glow and the den of noise
behind him as he's speaking into a microphone
and people are yelling. He's like, pretty prideful.
He's going, this is perfect. This is exactly
what I hoped would happen. I think your response
is the best. And I would love for like, when
you come to church on Sunday and someone starts
talking about it, what you just said was perfect.
I'm so happy that this happened because now I
can add Don Lemon to my prayer list. And we should
be giving our enemy to drink and to eat, because
that will be like pouring hot coals over his
head. That's one of my favorites. And to pray
for his legitimate salvation, be born again of
the Spirit of God. Bearing the fruit of the Spirit,
love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness,
gentleness, faithfulness, and number nine, the
biggie, self -control. And you know, when someone
walks in that, and it says even in that passage
in Galatians chapter five, they're led by the
Spirit. And so you can be led by a spirit, but
not be led by the Holy Spirit. And that's what
a lot of, when I hear people throwing around
their own little version of Christian rhetoric
to suit their little agenda and their narrative,
it's like, yeah, you're following a spirit, you're
just not following the spirit. Has nothing to
do with being white, has nothing to do with being
Baptist or non -denominational or Catholic or
Bahá 'í. What it means is this, is am I led by
the Spirit of God, the Most High God, who so
loved this world that He gave His only Son, so
that whoever would believe in Him would not perish
but have everlasting life. That's the God we
serve. This is a shot over the bow for Christians.
I hope that whoever listens to this, if they
claim faith, the first thing that they didn't
do was to go jump on their computer, grab their
keyboard, and start reposting. And man, I've
seen a lot of that. And I don't spend a lot of
time on social media these days. I'm so backed
off. But what little bit I've seen, and I won't
name names, but I've got a lot of friends in
ministry that are a little more high profile
than me. And I've seen some of the stuff they're
doing, and I'm just like, You're exactly right.
They've taken the bait. Do you know there's a
title of a book that John Bevere wrote years
ago called The Bait of Satan? Wow. Yeah. That's
a good one. Yeah. I mean, forget the book, the
title is there and really that's what this is.
And I see Don Lemon, you can hear him smiling
in his voice. I mean, literally he's on fire.
Yes. Yes. He's relevant. He's like people from
the weather channel that are in the middle of
a hurricane and they're so excited. I'm going
to use that on no agenda. They're way too excited.
You're giddy over this. What was the guy, John
Cantore or whatever his name? Yeah, Cantore.
Yeah, I think that's it. He's the one who's like,
he looks like a football player. He's out there
in the middle of a hurricane. some guy walking
in the background, a dog strolls by. But anyway,
when these things happen, I was telling it, God,
they're way too excited about it. This is terrible.
But it's the same thing as sometimes we as Christians,
we get so caught up in something. For Don Lemon,
oh my gosh, my views are going to go. It couldn't
have happened any better for me. I might get
back on cable news again. Exactly. I'm going
to get a job. I want to do this. Along with this,
because yes, it's intended for us to engage and
to start fighting back and forth. The algorithms
love it. Everybody wins. Not everybody, but all
the worldly, fleshly behaviors, all of that wins.
The worst part is our elected leaders take this
bait too. They take it hook line and sinker because
they're Don Lemons too. Yeah, they get their
15 seconds of fame. And that means votes and
that means attention and you know, I may have
someone trying to primary me. None of it, none
of it has anything to do with the original reason.
Exactly. So I'm going to leave this with 1 Timothy
2. One to four, I urge you first of all, this
is Paul to Timothy, I guess, right? Yes. To pray
for all people. Ask God to help them intercede
on their behalf and give thanks for them. Pray
this way for kings and all who are in authority
so we can live peaceful and quiet lives marked
by godliness and dignity. This is good. and pleases
God our Savior who wants everyone to be saved
and to understand the truth. And we have to pray
for Republicans and Democrats. I think we forget
that part. Adam, this is so good. And I will
say, boy, I'm so in line, I actually read that
passage right after I did the brief on Sunday.
Oh, really? Oh, okay. I put it on the end of
the brief. Perfect. Because this is what we're
called to do. I think it may be an unsung hero,
and it's only from completely out of context,
and I didn't see the interview, I didn't see
before or after really, is that pastor, I thought
he handled himself very well considering this
group had come in. It's going on in the background,
I mean it's happening. Yeah, it's happening in
real time and he's not panicked, he's not losing
his mind. It's funny, Don Lemon, get your hands
off me, don't push me. Just stop pushing me.
Oh my gosh, really? Sheesh. I thought that pastor
was handling it pretty well because that could
have been a real situation if you're in a bad
temperament day and you're concerned for your
family. I would be concerned if people came in
yelling and screaming and who's to say there's
not a gun? Who's to say there's not something
nefarious? Is this an odd question to ask? How
would you like your... church, our church here
to respond if that happened here. Because that
was on my mind. I know guys who could go pretty
radical. Yeah. Being in the Texas Hill country
and from a long line of independent -spirited
people as Texans, and darn well proud of it,
I think it could be a very volatile situation.
Very volatile. I mean, not only do we have paid
security staff and team that are professionals
is what they do, but we have a large contingent,
about 32 people involved in our safety team in
this church. And then there's another hundred
who are carrying. Mostly women, mostly ladies
of our church. That's true. And they know how
to use them. And so I would be, it could be,
that's why I'm saying this could have been very
tragic. It could have gone even worse. Well,
they chose this church specifically. I do not
have any fear whatsoever. This type of protest,
peaceable assembly, would happen at our church.
I just have no worries about that. I know for
me, I would have to be on the speaker. I'd have
to be on the microphone telling people to stand
down. I'll just put it that way because I know
our people and I love our people and they love
us. A week doesn't go by where one or two people
say, Pastor, I got your six. One of them says,
I can get to you in 2 .8 seconds. I know I've
timed it. I know exactly who says that. I'm just
like, oh my gosh, this is serious. I'm just saying
that would be the tragedy of it for me. But also,
I don't want people to feel fearful. I don't
want them to worry about this. Don't take the
bait. Just pray for these people and pray for
our country, pray for our elected representatives,
because they're the ones that are actually being,
they are the, they may even be the intended target,
now that I think about it. They are a target
in this operation, and it's an operation. It
is, which she even called it that. Code name.
paid for. This is done on purpose. In a positive
spin of this, the setup is that if we as believers,
Christians, followers of Jesus, respond rightly,
That means Don Lemon is about to get prayed for,
that he would come to know Jesus in a way that
transforms his life from the inside out. He put
a target on his back in the right way. That's
how I see these kinds of things. Joe Biden did
some things during his term and everybody around
him. Of course, he was the face of it. I even
told our church what he's done for me is I have
a target to pray for. I have a person to pray
for. I want him to be saved. I don't want him
to go to hell. I want him to be saved. I want
Hillary Clinton to be born again. I want these
people to come to know the truth, not my political
persuasion, but the truth of the gospel, the
good news. And I know that sounds radical, but
Jesus was radical. Yeah, he was a badass outlaw.
There it is. I'm glad you said it. I was thinking
it. I was thinking it. You said it. Brother,
shall we land this plane right here? Oh, man.
Thank you, Adam, for bringing life, bringing
this. This is important, and it's what's happening
in our world right now. And the good news is
we get to do this. We get to do it every week.
We'll be back next week. Thank you all, everybody.
God bless.