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Father, what a privilege it is to be before you

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on this last day of 2025. Lord, we close this

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chapter with joy and we embrace the new chapter,

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2026, with hope, with faith, and with expectation.

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And Lord, We truly do get to do this. We give

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this to you in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. It's Wednesday,

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December 31st, 2025. We get to do this. This

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is episode number 16. We get to do this. Yes,

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we do. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year, brother.

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Amen, brother. I am pumped about the new year.

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I love the change. I like the turning of the

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page. Yeah, you do. You like the changing of

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the seasons. I do. Yeah. I'm with you on that.

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I'm in it. I celebrate that. I celebrate that

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more than I do my own birthdays or anything like

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that because... Which is coming up. It is. Is

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it the 11th, I want to say? No, the 30th. I'm

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an Aquarius. Oh, so I have time to get your present

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all squared away. Oh, man. Present, man. It hasn't

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come in yet. Don't do that. No, please. I have

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a Christmas and birthday present for you. So

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something that you do in our church here, we're

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in the Bridge Church Studios in Fredericksburg,

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Texas. There's one other person here, I think.

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There's staff just popping in and popping out.

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We're all off. I always love being here in the

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clubhouse, man, in the clubhouse, especially

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when it's dark everywhere. The sanctuary's dimly

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lit. I know, I love it. There's such a cool vibe

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to it. But something, ever since I've been going

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to this church, the church, the only church I've

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ever been to, really, is a word of the year.

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So I'd love to hear, I think I know what it is

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because you've kind of alluded to it. And usually

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you talk about that in the new year from the

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pulpit. So bring it on brother. Let's give everybody

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a preview. Very simple. Oh, so every year instead

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of doing resolutions and I used to do that and

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then I would forget them in three weeks or I

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just lose my piece of paper. Where'd I put that?

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What was that resolution? I don't even remember

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where I wrote that down. So that I got really

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frustrated that and goal setting can be way overrated.

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So I, I stumbled on this thing probably 15 years

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ago called My One Word. There was actually a

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book about it. It was kind of a movement back

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then. I don't know, some just regular guy caught,

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you know, just kind of caught, it caught traction.

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So you can actually look it up. And so, and there

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was a website, I don't know if it's still rolling,

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but it was a few years ago. And it's just, they'd

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help you try to find your one word. You know,

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here's a little exercise to let you find it.

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So I started doing that. I found that was a much

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better thing for me. I can remember one thing.

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You can write it on your arm and it will stay

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there. Right. It's easy. And I like the idea

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of a theme as opposed to just a bunch of goals.

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Like I said, I think goal settings way overrated.

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It keeps you living in defeat for the most, depressed

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all the time. Like a to -do list for me. A to

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-do list is like that. Yes. A to -do list are

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lost on me. I have yellow pads stacked high in

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my closet with undone to -dos. And then you add

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another thing to the to -do list and then, oh,

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I got an electronic to -do list. Oh, I can add

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more and have more that I'll never get to. Oh,

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so Annette and I share our notes on the grocery

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list. So sometimes when I'm at the store, it

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starts to populate more while I'm there. Interesting

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how that happens. That does not make me happy.

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Because somehow it sounds like someone knows

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you're there and things get added to the list.

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It's very self -defeating because I'm like, oh,

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I'm almost done. I've got two more things and

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three more things pop up. I'm like, no, no. And

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it's on the other side of HIV. That's hilarious.

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It's a big store. But anyway, so that my one

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word was a thing. And so every year around early

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December, I just start just asking the Lord,

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you know, what would be a theme that I want to

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lean into? Sometimes I do a theme that's real

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obvious, like very practical, like the one I'm

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going to share today. Other times it's a little

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more abstract. It's a broader thing. So, and

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there's no rules. That's a thing because I have

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people come up to me in church that are rule

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followers. They'll go, I couldn't get one word,

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but I got a phrase. Is that okay? I'm like, no,

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I don't know. You're going to be penalized for

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that. Like, no, there's no law. Three Hail Marys.

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Whatever works for you, you know, it's kind of

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funny. But you know, the rule followers will

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do that. And I'm like, no, whatever. So I've

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done this for years. So this year, I caught onto

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this early in December and, but you know, it's

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not like a Sometimes you get a download and you

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know, man, this is direct from Throne Central.

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This wasn't so much. It was more, what do I want

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to emphasize for me? I mean, what am I, as I'm

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leaning into a new year, and the one thing that

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I love doing out in public, when I'm out at a

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store, I'm always looking for an opportunity

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to pray for somebody. And I don't do it in a

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very low -key way. I don't want to make it weird

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for people. It's so nice when somebody just walks

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up to you and sees that you're having a rough

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go or something. And they say, hey, do you mind

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if I pray for you? I'm just like, please, please

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do. And I've had that happen out in public before.

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And then of course we ended up finding out who

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we all are. And it's great, brothers and sisters.

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So last year had an incident happen to me. There

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was an elderly gentleman at a Target of all places.

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Annette's over in the girl section, so I'll wander

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over to the dude. You mean woodworking? Right,

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yeah. Yeah, the man cave. Kitchens and cabinets.

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So I went over to the guy stuff just to see.

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I rarely buy anything there, but anyway, I'm

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just getting away from the ladies. Power tools.

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Occupying my time. I see this elderly guy and

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he looks a little distraught. He looks lost.

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And I'm like, oh man, I hope this guy's... got

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dementia or something. Not having an episode

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or something. Yeah, yeah. He just seems that

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way. So I just go up to him. I said, sir, can

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I help you? And he goes, yeah, I'm looking for

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something, something. I said, oh, it's over here.

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I actually saw that. I walk him over there. I

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learned his life story as we're walking. He just,

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an older guy who's lonely. Turns out his wife

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has full -blown dementia and they can't even

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have a conversation anymore. So this guy's lonely

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and his wife is gone, basically. Yet she's still

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there. So, and he's not supposed to be driving,

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but he drove anyway, because he needed to pick

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up some things. So I mean, it's just a really

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sad situation. My heart is broke for the guy.

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And I just said, can I pray for you? He said,

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thank you so much. Please do. And so we just

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had a sweet time and that really marked me of

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wanting to do that more often and be more sensitive

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to people. So I try to keep my eye open. But

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the best way to do that is to create a filter

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for it Like like if you're gonna go car shopping

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and you've got set in your mind. I want a white

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SUV a pearl white SUV Toyota whatever RAV4 whatever

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the brand is Suddenly you start seeing them everywhere.

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Why because you have a filter for it. You have

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a grid I call it the 10 speed bike thing. You

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got a 10 speed bike. You see him riding everywhere.

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They're everywhere. Yeah, so same thing So I

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thought, I want to create a filter for let's

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pray. So my word is pray, but my phrase is let's

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pray. And so I determined this in early December.

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Well, I've probably had 20 or 30 opportunities

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to do this since because I've got the filter

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for it. Yeah. So you're seeing opportunities.

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Oh my gosh. God just brings people in your path

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that are struggling. And it could be a clerk

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at HEB or checkout lady at HEB. Hey, how's your

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day going? Well, I'll get off in five minutes.

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I'm so tired. I'm sorry. You mind if I pray for

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you? That's great. Let me just breathe a little

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prayer. I won't even, nobody will even notice.

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And they're like, thank you. I'm like, let's

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pray. So it's just, let's praise my thing. I

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love it. And you know, that Matthew West song,

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you know, don't stop praying, don't stop praying.

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That kind of imprinted me a couple, about three

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years ago. Oh yeah. That was a great song. And

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it just, the ongoing, it creates a grid for it.

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So I just kind of let that settle in my spirit.

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That's kind of my theme song for the year. So

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if I feel like I need to increase that grid,

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like I'm driving down the road, I'll throw that

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song on, listen to it. Oh yeah, just that reminder.

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Don't stop praying. That's fantastic. That's

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it. That's a simple thing. It's inspirational

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too. Yeah, it's simple and it helps me. So this

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one is a very practical theme, but I've had more

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broad themes like engage or converge. they're

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open to a lot of interpretation and application.

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This one's more direct and simple. So that's

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it. So my word, I initially thought I had my

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word and then a new word was presented to me

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just recently. And that can happen mid -year

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too. There's no law to this. But I've become

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so conscious of the Holy Spirit. You know, like

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I'm watching a particular YouTube video I'm interested

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in. My thumb hits something and a different one

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pops up. I'm like, ah! I'm like, wait a minute,

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maybe that wasn't an accident. Let me stay and

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watch and see what popped up. So a word pop was

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presented to me, literally. And I'm kind of breaking

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the rules because it's Hebrew. Ooh, I like that.

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That's even better. Kava. Kava. Q -A -V -A -H.

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Which, as I understand it, means waiting. But

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it's not passively waiting, it's actively waiting.

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And the analogy that I like the most is it's

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like you're weaving a rope and you're intertwining

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the different smaller pieces of rope to create

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this rope while you're waiting for the necessity

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to use this rope. That's really good. And I'm

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like, wow, this is perfect because we've been

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talking about God's perfect timing, delay is

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not denial. I'm like, So yeah, waiting, waiting

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for God's perfect timing, but not sitting still,

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doing whatever you're supposed to be doing. And

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that rope is... So that's... Man, good word,

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bro. That's... much deeper than mine. Mine's

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just like, all right, let's just do this. Every

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year it's different, and sometimes it'll be deep

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and have a lot of depth like that one, and sometimes

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it's just real practical. I'm going to use pray

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too though, man. I'd like that. I want to create

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a grid. I'm going to keep bringing this up for

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our church because I want our people to be that

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way, to be where... Man, I just told Scott, let's

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pray, and we did. Well, that happened to me when

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we had our free concert, The Greatest Story Ever

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Told, our Mark plots in December. Which was awesome,

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by the way. Thank you very much for being there

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doing the prayer, even though I'd forgotten to

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tell you that I expected you to do that. I was

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ready. But at the end, I'm like, we have people

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here with t -shirts on. If you need them to pray

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for you, then they're here for you. And I'm like,

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and the lady comes up to me and says, will you

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pray for me? Nice. And I wasn't expecting it

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because I'm like, oh, I have no responsibility

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here. I've given it to the people with the t

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-shirts on. I'm like, yeah. That's cool. And

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it was. And I pray for her almost every single

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day. It was a health issue. Almost every day,

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I'm like, Lord, she came to me. And so I'm praying

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for her to be lifted up while you're doing your

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healing. And it just stuck with me. And you're

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right, how awesome it is to pray for someone.

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And it's so simple. And you don't have to make

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a big deal out of it. So I've learned to be very

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discreet so that I don't embarrass people, because

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that's the last thing you want to be distracted

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because you're laying hands on them. You're calling

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down the Holy Ghost and praying in tongues. It's

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just so to the point, so quick. And then you're

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like, man, have a great day. we get to do this,

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the title of this podcast, and it really came

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together for me in a number of ways. And I found

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what I realized is we are so uniquely qualified

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together for what we're going to talk about today.

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Me, from the conspiracy therapist point of view,

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you as a theologian and a pastor and being from

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my generation, you know, I'm a boomer adjacent,

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but we're both kind of the same age. I'm on the

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bubble. And it started actually started before

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last week, before Christmas, which we were supposed

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to do a show. Well, we didn't actually talk about

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it, but we both considered like, you know, we

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got stuff going on at the church like family

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in town. It'll be OK if we don't if we don't

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do the show. And it was a passage that I came

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across that completely led me down a two week

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journey to where I am today. And it's a tough

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topic actually because it's hotly debated and

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it completely ties in with what's happening in

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culture today. And so my task was to deconstruct

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it. What's going on? Where is this coming from?

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And I'll give you the passage first because this

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was amazing. 2 Timothy 3 verse 1 through 9. I'm

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going to look it up. And I took the message version

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because I want everyone to hear this because

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the message version really hits home. Here we

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go. Don't be naive. There are difficult times

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ahead. As the end approaches, people are going

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to be self -absorbed, money -hungry, self -promoting,

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stuck -up, profane, contemptuous of parents,

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crude, coarse, dog -eat -dog, unbending, slanderers,

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impulsively wild, savage, cynical, treacherous,

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ruthless, bloated windbags addicted to lust and

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allergic to God. They'll make a show of religion,

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but behind the scenes their animals stay clear

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of these people. These are the kind of people

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who smooth talk themselves into the homes of

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unstable and needy women and take advantage of

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them. Women who, depressed by their sinfulness,

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take up with every new religious fad that calls

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itself truth. They get exploited every time and

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never really learn. These men are like those

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old Egyptian frauds, Johnnus and Jambrus. who

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challenged Moses they were rejects from the faith

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twisted in their thinking defying truth itself

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but nothing will come of these latest imposters

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everyone will see through them just as people

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saw through that Egyptian hoax I could only think

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of 15 names of influencers who fit this description

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I'm with you and I'm like okay Now things start

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to clear up for me. Thank you, Holy Spirit, by

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the way. It just comes and comes. And I was actually

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sick. So my body was immobilized. My brain was

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like supercharged. And I don't know what happened,

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but it just came. And I have more notes than

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we'll ever even be able to discuss. More just

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for myself so I can go back later and look at

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it. We can do two -parter. I mean, we can always

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carry this conversation. We'll see. You cannot

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discuss this in one sitting alone. But this is

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what I love about our friendship is I can come

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to you as a new Christian and say, what about

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this? How does this work? And I realized that

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Charlie Kirk's death created an enormous vacuum.

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And this vacuum, it was already starting before

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he was killed. but this vacuum got filled up

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very, very quickly. And if you look at it from

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the top down, it starts with Israel killed Charlie

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Kirk, the Jews killed Charlie Kirk, there's been

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a lot of, I don't even know if it's anti -Semitism,

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it's very hateful speech is what it is, and I'm

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not against any speeches speech. So I started

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to look at this and start to go from the top

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down and deconstruct what's really underlying

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all this, which I think at the end is always

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the enemy. But if true, and I believe it is,

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the enemy really filled this void very quickly,

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very quickly. So I'm going to start with Candice

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Owens just because she's kind of the tip of the

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spear. She started off the whole... Egyptian

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hoax. I mean, literally Egyptian plain. So when

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I read this scripture, I'm like, thank you, Lord.

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I'm starting to see the parallels here. And she

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was on Theo Vonn's podcast. And she starts with

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something that I have debunked many times. We've

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talked about it, but I just want to roll through

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it because it leads into the next piece, which

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leads down the ladder to the root of all of these

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issues. Israel is actually the exception. They

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are the only country that's allowed to lobby.

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Americans like everyone else has to register

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as you know foreign agents and under under farah

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or whatever Yes, a pack the backstory by the

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way before JFK got shot. He was fighting a pack

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They were previously called I'm blanking on this

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it was you can look it up And he was literally

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saying you have to register under the foreign

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act. Is that true? Let's 1 ,000 percent sure

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and you should look it up. We should fact -check

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He was fighting with what is today known as APAC,

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as it was renamed, AZCPA. I don't know what that

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stood for. In 1959, AZCPA was renamed APAC, American

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Israel Public Affairs Committee, reflecting a

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broader membership and mission. Yeah, so JFK

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told them that they had to register under Farah.

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And so American Zionist Council, that's exactly

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what it was called in 1962. President, look at

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the last paragraph in 1962. They're reading from

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Wikipedia, by the way, which is not necessarily

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a good source, but always accurate. This is where

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it kind of falls apart. So 1962. President John

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F. Kennedy and his brother Bobby, as a U .S.

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Attorney General, forced the AZC to register

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as a foreign agent. In doing so, they were barred

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from making money. contributions to U .S. officials.

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Who was barred? AZC? Yeah, so APAC, for lack

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of a better term, they were called AZC back then,

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but continued to send out newsletters and hold

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events with a nonprofit tax exemption. And then

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what happened was he was shot. So they are the

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only, the reason why I'm bringing this up is

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not to further conspiracy theories. They're the

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only country that's allowed to lobby Americans

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that are not registered under the FAR Act. But

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for whatever reason, Israel is an exception to

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this. And the reason is because JFK got shot.

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Otherwise, they would have been under this. So

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that is the reason that they're allowed to do

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this lie Wow, so man leap but but you know to

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the In the culture that we're in now, it's and

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I should probably step back and say something

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happened and it happened pretty much around Charlie

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Kirk's Assassination where it became not only

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okay to speak against Israel and to say the Jews

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did this, it became kind of heroic. So like,

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hey man, I got free speech, I'm speaking out

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against it and I can do this. And so when you

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do this, you get attention. I called punk rock

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podcasting very much like the Sex Pistols. God

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save the queen, she ain't no human being. You

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couldn't say that. They broke through that barrier

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and then of course that's why they were cool

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for a season. Rage against the machine. Yes,

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for a season, for a season. So this is factually

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just not true. It is true that the American Zionist

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Council they were lobbying Congress and they

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were receiving money from Israel. And in 1959,

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not 1962, 1959, they got rid of ACC and they

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renamed their group as APAC, the American Israeli.

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It's not political action committee, it's a more

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friendly term. And that money... comes only from

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American Israelis, or Jewish Americans, I should

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say. And it's probably $100 million goes into

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different senators. This is the process that

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we have. You can redress your government. So

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it was not because... they didn't want to change

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their name and then they killed JFK and then

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they just rebranded. No, they actually split

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it into APAC, which is a 501C4. That's a nonprofit

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where if you donate to them, it's not tax deductible

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and they can use that to lobby Congress. The

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NRA has that and there's all these different

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types of organizations, of lobbying organizations.

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But their money cannot come from from outside

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America, and it doesn't. Now, there is a nice

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little trick that was played. They also have

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the American Israeli Education Foundation, which

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is a 501C3. Everything you donate to that is

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tax deductible. This, by the way, is the same

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for Turning Point USA. They have two different

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entities, one for lobbying and one for a nonprofit.

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And the American Israeli Education Foundation,

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their website literally says, we give our money

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to AIPAC. Yeah. So they're not hiding anything.

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But who funds it? That's no, it's not foreign

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countries that fund the American Israeli Education

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Foundation. It's Raytheon, Boeing, it's the military

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industrial complex. And so it is a, it is, if

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anything, an abuse of Jewish Americans to kind

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of hide under You know, under the cover, well,

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this is American Jews who just have interests

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for themselves in America, and of course, you

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can't coordinate with an Israeli government.

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But, as I'll show in a moment, This is not unique.

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It is not the only organization that does this

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because everyone knows if you if you try to mess

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with them, you'll get assassinated. That's because

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that's what she's implying. Here she doubled

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down, doubles down. So when you hear these people

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in your government saying this, you should know

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how fraudulent they are because they all are

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taking money from Israel. And so it's like, yes.

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So just to reiterate. They may be taking money

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from the NRA, from APAC, from any other number

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of lobbying organizations. It literally does

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not, by law, does not come from Israel. It just

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doesn't. It's from American citizens. Is Israel

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doing it legally because a president got shot?

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Sure. But it's wrong. A country should not be

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able to lobby to get what they want and control

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our congressmen. And you get to see them flex

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that muscle like... TikTok and things of nature,

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when they are now interfering with our speech,

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and they'll get laws passed really quickly. She's

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now insinuating that AIPAC lobbied Congress to

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have TikTok taken away from China and given to

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Israel, which is also not true. But Larry Ellison,

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who's a Jew, is part of the consortium, therefore...

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He's given it to Israel. See, these shortcuts

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are the things that you got to pay attention

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to when you're deconstructing what people are

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saying. Literally a foreign country to make decisions

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in our nation. Lobbying should just not be allowed

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full stop. That is also not true. Our constitution

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says you may redress your government. Has it

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become a convoluted thing? Absolutely. But you've

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got to hold your representatives to account,

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not the legality of redressing your government.

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They go, oh, well, you're focusing on it because

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they're Jewish. No, you're just the only country

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that's allowed to do it. I would feel the same

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way if China, if there was a Chinese lobby that

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was spending... Is China allowed to do it? No,

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there's no other country that's allowed to do

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this but Israel. Only AIPAC. There's no other

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country that is... Okay, this is a lie. Under

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the exact same... system. We have ANCA, the Armenian

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National Committee of America. We have the Cuban

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American National Foundation, CANF. We have the

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United States India Political Action Committee.

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It's actually quite big. So that's USINPAC. We

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have the American Hellenic Institute, that's

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Greece and Cyprus. By the way, very political,

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especially Cyprus, very political. We have the

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National Iranian Council, the NIAC. Well, where's

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all the outrage over them lobbying our government?

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It is a lie. In fact, we also have the, I have

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it here, the UNCB, it's the United States China

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Business Council, who Obviously, and Apple's

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in there and Google's in there, and they want

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to make sure that they have regulations so they

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can appease the Chinese government to use their

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products. So to say that Israel, which is not

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true, is the only one, right? And it's not Iran,

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it's not India, it is American citizens who are

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legal, legally immigrated citizens of our great

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country, they can redress their government. any

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way they want, as long as they don't take funds

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or coordinate directly with those governments.

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Now, is there coordination? You know, it would

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be hard to say no to any of these, but to just

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flat out say, Only Israel gets to do this is

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a lie. angry like that should make people angry

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and irrespective like I said it could be any

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country okay so we just have to take on face

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value that she is shallow in her research but

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this is a common theme that's out there so as

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I'm looking at Candace it starts to become obvious

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to me that the root of all this comes from this

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now slur Christian Zionism the Zionists you know

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it is now cool And by the way, I understand because

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I've read my history, I understand what people

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are unhappy with their lives, with the economy

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and undoubtedly Generation Z zoomers think they

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have it really bad. I mean, I have a whole comparison

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chart where I can show you that wasn't so easy

00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:24.519
for us either. You think it's hard to find someone

00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:28.339
to to be with. When we were growing up, we had

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AIDS, okay? You would die if you had sex. You

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know, yeah, it's tough to find a house. We had

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19 % interest rates. That's right. You know,

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climate change. We had the ozone and acid rain,

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but what we didn't have is parents who would

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give us an allowance until we were 30 and let

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us live at their house. So I'm just not going

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to accept all of these incredible hardships.

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But of course, it's easy when you can say, Well,

00:27:53.099 --> 00:27:55.339
it's obvious because our government is controlled

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by AIPAC, by Israel. They're being blackmailed

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by the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. There's no

00:28:01.059 --> 00:28:03.880
evidence of this. Now, is there blackmailing?

00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:06.539
I'm sure. But is all of our Congress completely

00:28:06.539 --> 00:28:10.519
compromised? Doubtful. So who do we blame? Not

00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:13.819
Congress, not the intelligence agencies. We blame

00:28:13.819 --> 00:28:19.150
Israel. And fold into that the which, of course,

00:28:19.170 --> 00:28:21.009
you and I have known what's been going on and

00:28:21.009 --> 00:28:23.869
have seen it with our own eyes since the 70s,

00:28:24.069 --> 00:28:27.309
where finally it all came to a head and there

00:28:27.309 --> 00:28:30.690
was an all -out war between Israel and the people

00:28:30.690 --> 00:28:32.769
living in Gaza. I'm saying that specifically

00:28:32.769 --> 00:28:35.369
because the trap is to call them Palestinians.

00:28:36.769 --> 00:28:41.609
And, you know, if you have not been educated

00:28:41.609 --> 00:28:44.750
in geopolitics and history, it's easy to say,

00:28:44.789 --> 00:28:46.970
well, that's a genocide and these people are

00:28:46.970 --> 00:28:50.019
horrible. They control our country, they control

00:28:50.019 --> 00:28:55.180
our president, etc. Just a little bit of geopolitical

00:28:55.180 --> 00:28:59.539
background. The modern state of Israel was created

00:28:59.539 --> 00:29:04.599
in 1948 based upon a 1917 initiative in England

00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:08.660
called the Balfour Declaration. And the Balfour

00:29:08.660 --> 00:29:13.480
Declaration really was a geopolitical move. It

00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:18.369
was to have an outpost that the British Empire

00:29:18.369 --> 00:29:22.670
could have some control over to protect the Suez

00:29:22.670 --> 00:29:26.809
Canal Which is exactly the same reason why the

00:29:26.809 --> 00:29:28.710
United States State Department after the Vietnam

00:29:28.710 --> 00:29:32.930
War said hey We should use these guys as an aircraft

00:29:32.930 --> 00:29:35.490
carrier in the sand so we should be supporting

00:29:35.490 --> 00:29:38.759
them of course just like everything else, we'll

00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:41.500
use faith and religion and all kinds of other

00:29:41.500 --> 00:29:44.059
reasons to cover up what we're really talking

00:29:44.059 --> 00:29:47.079
about. And this is to this day is still true.

00:29:47.420 --> 00:29:49.759
Joe Biden even said, if there was no Israel,

00:29:49.779 --> 00:29:52.880
we'd have to create it. And Obama said similar

00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:54.700
things. And that's just the truth. That has been

00:29:54.700 --> 00:29:57.839
our outpost in this predominantly Muslim area.

00:29:58.220 --> 00:30:01.819
That's a podcast for a whole nother thing. So

00:30:01.819 --> 00:30:07.269
what this leads to is this whole Christian Zionism.

00:30:07.670 --> 00:30:10.289
And this is where the church gets involved. And,

00:30:10.349 --> 00:30:12.750
you know, the American church, these are Zionists,

00:30:12.950 --> 00:30:15.089
so they must be in on it, they must be getting

00:30:15.089 --> 00:30:17.549
shekels. I mean, it just goes on and on and on.

00:30:17.730 --> 00:30:22.309
And this has led to an enormous anti -Semitism

00:30:22.309 --> 00:30:25.390
in general, which I don't think is stoppable,

00:30:25.430 --> 00:30:29.670
but it's good to understand its origins. And

00:30:29.670 --> 00:30:32.349
it comes from something that really, this is

00:30:32.349 --> 00:30:34.839
the crux of where I want to go with you. the

00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:41.079
difference between dispensationalism and, I'm

00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:46.140
blanking for a second, successionism. Okay, and

00:30:46.140 --> 00:30:49.200
then there's cessationalism, so there's several.

00:30:49.819 --> 00:30:53.119
Well thank you, because so really it boils down

00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:56.920
to a new theory, which is just fabulous, which

00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.940
is the Schofield Bible. And I've done a very

00:31:00.940 --> 00:31:03.680
deep dive on the Schofield Bible So let's listen

00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:06.079
and these some of these clips are actually some

00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:09.779
of these clips are a long but I want to Take

00:31:09.779 --> 00:31:13.559
a friendly voice John Rich country singer. Mm

00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:18.839
-hmm. This started before Before Charlie was

00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:23.119
killed he was on Tucker and he talked about the

00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:25.019
Schofield Bible Have you ever heard of a Schofield

00:31:25.019 --> 00:31:28.289
Bible? Yes, I have okay So C .S. Gofield was

00:31:28.289 --> 00:31:31.430
basically a student of John Darby, and he adopted

00:31:31.430 --> 00:31:34.369
that part of the doctrine, and he incorporated

00:31:34.369 --> 00:31:36.829
that into the Bible. It was the first Bible ever

00:31:36.829 --> 00:31:39.150
made that had study notes with it. We have all

00:31:39.150 --> 00:31:41.430
kinds of Bibles now that have, you know, concordances

00:31:41.430 --> 00:31:43.329
and study notes and all kinds of stuff that go

00:31:43.329 --> 00:31:45.710
along, but this was the first one that was ever

00:31:45.710 --> 00:31:49.619
made. It became so popular. Every Christian was

00:31:49.619 --> 00:31:51.700
reading it, every minister was reading it, and

00:31:51.700 --> 00:31:54.220
this continues today, to this exact second. My

00:31:54.220 --> 00:31:58.000
own dad, when he went in seminary and wanted

00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:00.319
to become a minister, they said, make sure you

00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:02.259
have a Schofield Bible now when you come to class.

00:32:02.380 --> 00:32:05.180
Have your Schofield Bible. Schofield Bible also

00:32:05.180 --> 00:32:10.140
adopted that entire John Darby philosophy of

00:32:10.140 --> 00:32:12.220
Christians will not be here when the bad stuff

00:32:12.220 --> 00:32:15.099
starts to happen. And most Christians still believe

00:32:15.099 --> 00:32:17.160
that. Matter of fact, a lot of my friends that

00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:18.640
are Christians are going to watch this interview

00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:20.440
are probably right now going, hang on a minute,

00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:24.700
now hang on. So this is pushing back against

00:32:24.700 --> 00:32:27.680
a doctrine that's been in existence now for coming

00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:31.099
up on 200 years. The problem with that doctrine

00:32:31.099 --> 00:32:35.480
is there's several places in the Bible where

00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:39.079
it talks about what's going to happen prior to

00:32:39.079 --> 00:32:41.619
Jesus Christ coming back to the earth. When he

00:32:41.619 --> 00:32:43.900
does come back, that is when what we call the

00:32:43.900 --> 00:32:45.519
rapture happens. The word rapture is nowhere

00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:47.220
in the Bible. It talks about us being caught

00:32:47.220 --> 00:32:49.640
up with him and pulled out of here, and then

00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:52.299
the ultimate wrath is poured out on this planet.

00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.900
That's what we call the rapture. So that's not

00:32:54.900 --> 00:32:57.460
in debate. The question is, what happens leading

00:32:57.460 --> 00:33:00.160
up to that? It's a good question to ask, right?

00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:03.700
For some reason, nobody ever preaches that. They

00:33:03.700 --> 00:33:05.500
don't want to talk about what all happens prior

00:33:05.500 --> 00:33:08.460
to it. So if I can, can I just read if we have

00:33:08.460 --> 00:33:10.500
time? That's why I love the thought of this interview.

00:33:10.740 --> 00:33:13.920
Oh, I do too. But just to be clear, what you're

00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.039
saying is the Schofield Bible, its theology is

00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:20.980
deceptive. I'm saying that the same way the media

00:33:20.980 --> 00:33:25.779
takes a factual situation and twists it and gives

00:33:25.779 --> 00:33:27.859
you a version of it, which we all know we're

00:33:27.859 --> 00:33:32.210
force -fed every single day, The same exact tactic

00:33:32.210 --> 00:33:35.609
was used in 1830 by John Darby and guess who

00:33:35.609 --> 00:33:38.450
he was connected to by the way the Rothschilds

00:33:38.450 --> 00:33:41.829
And there it is. We've got the perfect Jew combination

00:33:41.829 --> 00:33:45.210
But this is important because that is not true.

00:33:45.390 --> 00:33:49.670
John Darby wrote and quote -unquote created dispensationalism

00:33:49.670 --> 00:33:56.170
and Schofield was actually Funded by two US businessmen

00:33:56.460 --> 00:33:59.599
who I think did have, they liked a more harder

00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:01.720
stance in the church at the time. They felt that

00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:04.539
the American church was weak and they saw liberalism

00:34:04.539 --> 00:34:09.739
particularly towards labor creeping in. And one

00:34:09.739 --> 00:34:15.139
was from Unicall, Union Oil. He didn't want unions,

00:34:15.139 --> 00:34:19.500
etc. He wanted a much more harder stance for

00:34:19.500 --> 00:34:22.460
workers. And the other guy, Piri, he had a chain

00:34:22.460 --> 00:34:25.070
of department stores, had similar issues. They

00:34:25.070 --> 00:34:27.989
actually funded him for several years. And then

00:34:27.989 --> 00:34:30.449
it was Oxford Press that published this and made

00:34:30.449 --> 00:34:35.170
it so big. And the insinuation here is that the

00:34:35.170 --> 00:34:37.949
Rothschild somehow were part of the Oxford Press.

00:34:38.489 --> 00:34:40.750
Well, Oxford had been around for 200 years before

00:34:40.750 --> 00:34:43.250
all of that. So that's not true. But the way

00:34:43.250 --> 00:34:47.730
that thing gets transmogrified through influencers

00:34:47.730 --> 00:34:52.170
with large followings. I see Ian Carroll, I'm

00:34:52.170 --> 00:34:54.510
sure you've seen Ian Carroll, kind of has the

00:34:54.510 --> 00:34:57.710
hoodie on and when you hear him, now listen to

00:34:57.710 --> 00:35:01.389
how the story morphs into his version of the

00:35:01.389 --> 00:35:03.170
Schofield Bible. Do you guys know about the Schofield

00:35:03.170 --> 00:35:05.829
Bible? Oh boy, here's a rabbit hole for you.

00:35:05.929 --> 00:35:07.750
Here's a rabbit hole for all of us that I have

00:35:07.750 --> 00:35:09.469
not gone all the way down yet, I've only started.

00:35:09.530 --> 00:35:15.010
Okay. But in the early 1900s, 1913ish. Thank

00:35:15.010 --> 00:35:18.070
you. Okay, so he's already started, but I haven't

00:35:18.070 --> 00:35:19.769
gone down the rabbit. In other words, I've not

00:35:19.769 --> 00:35:22.170
studied, I've not researched. I'm just going

00:35:22.170 --> 00:35:24.030
to give you something I heard about, because

00:35:24.030 --> 00:35:25.889
that's exactly where we're going with this. And

00:35:25.889 --> 00:35:28.710
this is the problem with the influencer culture

00:35:28.710 --> 00:35:34.690
right now. It's like when you use AI to write

00:35:34.690 --> 00:35:37.510
programs, once it starts down a bad track, you

00:35:37.510 --> 00:35:39.190
can't reel it back in. You have to literally

00:35:39.190 --> 00:35:41.670
start over. You can't correct it along the way.

00:35:41.849 --> 00:35:43.639
It's also the game of telephone. that we used

00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:47.780
to play as kids. But this guy has a huge following,

00:35:48.380 --> 00:35:51.039
and he's been all over Israel, and Israel bad,

00:35:51.179 --> 00:35:53.699
and Israel killed JFK, and Israel killed Charlie,

00:35:53.780 --> 00:35:58.039
and people are lapping it up. And his evidence

00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:01.780
for this is the Schofield Bible dispensationalism,

00:36:01.780 --> 00:36:05.500
etc. And listen to how his version of, I haven't

00:36:05.500 --> 00:36:07.900
gone down the rabbit hole yet, sounds. You guys

00:36:07.900 --> 00:36:10.219
know about the Schofield Bible? Mm -hmm. Oh boy.

00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:11.739
Here's a rabbit hole for you. Here's a rabbit

00:36:11.739 --> 00:36:13.760
hole for all of us that I have not gone all the

00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:16.940
way down yet I've only started okay, but um in

00:36:16.940 --> 00:36:20.860
the early 1900s 1913 ish right around when the

00:36:20.860 --> 00:36:22.980
Federal Reserve was founded and just bring the

00:36:22.980 --> 00:36:28.719
bankers in the Federal Reserve The Balfour Declaration

00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.000
happened right at that the Balfour. Yeah, so

00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:34.500
he's got of 1917, but he's he's just lumping

00:36:34.500 --> 00:36:36.860
it all together kind of in the same time like

00:36:37.179 --> 00:36:39.659
you know, 9 -11 was kind of almost the same as

00:36:39.659 --> 00:36:42.820
1999. Or a reserve was founded and the Balfour

00:36:42.820 --> 00:36:44.739
Declaration happened right at that exact same

00:36:44.739 --> 00:36:48.000
time. The Rothschild family hired this dude,

00:36:48.059 --> 00:36:51.139
this pastor in the deep south to like, it's a

00:36:51.139 --> 00:36:53.119
very complicated story, but the end result was

00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:55.400
he made a new version of the Bible called the

00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:59.760
Schofield Bible. Okay. So right now we've gone

00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:03.179
from There being no connection to the Rothschilds

00:37:03.179 --> 00:37:06.000
actually hired the guy to write a new version

00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:09.019
of the Bible which wasn't Completely a new version

00:37:09.019 --> 00:37:11.019
that was the King James version, but right the

00:37:11.019 --> 00:37:13.579
first one was study notes Let's continue where

00:37:13.579 --> 00:37:16.539
this this he's not Jewish. He's like a he's an

00:37:16.539 --> 00:37:19.440
American Christian, but they kind of like sort

00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.519
of leveraged his Complicated he wrote this new

00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:24.849
by complicated. It's just just It's complicated.

00:37:24.969 --> 00:37:26.489
We'll just keep talking. He wrote this new Bible.

00:37:26.530 --> 00:37:29.150
It has all these new interpretations of the text.

00:37:29.769 --> 00:37:31.309
So they didn't change. With Jewish influence.

00:37:31.650 --> 00:37:33.929
Yes, literally. Literally. And that's where like

00:37:33.929 --> 00:37:36.170
the, that's where the God's chosen people in

00:37:36.170 --> 00:37:38.050
the greatest out. Well, not exactly, but that's

00:37:38.050 --> 00:37:41.590
where a lot of this sort of like Israel, that's

00:37:41.590 --> 00:37:43.820
where Judeo Christianity. kind of came from.

00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:46.099
And the idea that Israel is this modern Israel

00:37:46.099 --> 00:37:48.219
thing is the Israel, the Bible. It came from

00:37:48.219 --> 00:37:50.159
that Bible. And the Schofield Bible was funded

00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.539
by the Rothschild family. And then it was pushed

00:37:52.539 --> 00:37:55.199
because they owned the publisher that publishes

00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:57.760
all the books. I think it was Oxford Press. And

00:37:57.760 --> 00:37:59.679
so they had the deals that they could make to

00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:03.059
get that Bible into all the megachurches. There

00:38:03.059 --> 00:38:07.440
were megachurches in 1917. Right. Across whole

00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:10.949
denominations of Christianity. at the turn of

00:38:10.949 --> 00:38:14.409
this entry, 1913 -ish, was when Christianity

00:38:14.409 --> 00:38:19.849
got kind of...Jewified. There! Wow. Okay, now

00:38:19.849 --> 00:38:22.630
I'm gonna land this plane for you soon. We have

00:38:22.630 --> 00:38:24.869
to get to a few more parts, because then it's

00:38:24.869 --> 00:38:27.130
just you and me talking through this. I mean,

00:38:27.469 --> 00:38:31.190
this is serious business. So this, of course,

00:38:31.809 --> 00:38:34.110
has permeated a lot of, there's a lot of new

00:38:34.110 --> 00:38:36.670
Christians, a lot of people coming to faith,

00:38:37.489 --> 00:38:41.050
young men particularly. a lot of them go to Catholicism,

00:38:41.050 --> 00:38:45.130
which I believe certainly the modern Catholic

00:38:45.130 --> 00:38:49.750
Church is against dispensationalism. People tell

00:38:49.750 --> 00:38:52.909
me all the time, I'm so happy that you found

00:38:52.909 --> 00:38:55.929
God. I just hope you'll join the Orthodox Church.

00:38:57.150 --> 00:38:59.690
And Tucker Carlson is also a brand new Christian.

00:39:01.329 --> 00:39:04.690
The influence of this talk, and he's had Candice

00:39:04.690 --> 00:39:07.329
Owens and Ian Carroll and Nick Fuentes, which

00:39:07.329 --> 00:39:09.070
is who I'm going to wind it up with, had them

00:39:09.070 --> 00:39:12.349
all on his podcast. And so he has a conversation

00:39:12.349 --> 00:39:15.630
with Ted Cruz, classic. We've probably all seen

00:39:15.630 --> 00:39:19.650
it. And Ted Cruz is talking about Israel and

00:39:19.650 --> 00:39:22.530
how he... always wants to support Israel. They

00:39:22.530 --> 00:39:24.730
have a whole conversation. It's out of context.

00:39:25.030 --> 00:39:26.789
It's not only about that because he's talking

00:39:26.789 --> 00:39:29.329
about America first and what's good for America.

00:39:30.030 --> 00:39:34.110
And support of Israel militarily is by its very

00:39:34.110 --> 00:39:38.269
nature, the same as back in the early 1900s,

00:39:38.449 --> 00:39:41.170
good for America, which has actually been the

00:39:41.170 --> 00:39:43.309
launching pad for the Abraham Accords. And what

00:39:43.309 --> 00:39:46.090
has really brought all of these Arab nations

00:39:46.090 --> 00:39:49.820
together And they are at war with each other.

00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:55.800
That's why you've had Saudi Arabia fighting the

00:39:55.800 --> 00:40:00.099
Houthis, the different factions of Islam. So

00:40:00.099 --> 00:40:03.380
it's been a good thing, net -net, with what President

00:40:03.380 --> 00:40:05.360
Trump has done with it. But just listen, you

00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:09.699
can hear Tucker How influenced he is by this

00:40:09.699 --> 00:40:13.179
particular line of thinking about Schofield Bible.

00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:15.059
And remember, he's heard from John Rich about

00:40:15.059 --> 00:40:17.659
the Schofield Bible and how the Jews changed

00:40:17.659 --> 00:40:20.059
it all. You suggested it was a strange thing

00:40:20.059 --> 00:40:22.099
that I said a minute ago that when I came into

00:40:22.099 --> 00:40:23.719
the Senate I resolved that I was going to be

00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:25.539
the leading defender of Israel. And what you

00:40:25.539 --> 00:40:26.980
didn't ask is why, so let me tell you why. No,

00:40:27.139 --> 00:40:29.019
you said I was obsessed with Israel and... You

00:40:29.019 --> 00:40:32.559
had just told me that your driving motive to

00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:34.559
get to the Senate was to defend Israel. I don't

00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:36.139
think I'm the one who's obsessed with Israel.

00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:38.639
I don't even think about Israel. So Tucker, words

00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:44.019
matter. And you know that. I said I resolved

00:40:44.019 --> 00:40:45.400
to be the leading defender of Israel, and you

00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:47.599
said your driving motive, the reason you're in

00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:49.059
the Senate. You want to be the leading defender

00:40:49.059 --> 00:40:50.780
of Israel. I would think if I ran for Senate,

00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:52.820
I'd be like, there are people dying of drug use

00:40:52.820 --> 00:40:55.500
on the street. My driving motive is to fight

00:40:55.500 --> 00:40:58.019
for Texas and America and to fight for jobs and

00:40:58.019 --> 00:41:00.559
to fight for the Constitution. And you played

00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:03.500
a very, very careful word game of a lie to you.

00:41:03.639 --> 00:41:06.139
I'm not the one who said it, not me. So you still

00:41:06.139 --> 00:41:07.780
haven't asked why, but I'm going to tell you

00:41:07.780 --> 00:41:11.960
why. Okay, and the reason is twofold number one

00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:15.019
as a Christian Growing up in Sunday school. I

00:41:15.019 --> 00:41:18.059
was taught from the Bible those who bless Israel

00:41:18.059 --> 00:41:20.639
will be blessed and those who curse Israel will

00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:23.340
be cursed and From my perspective. I want to

00:41:23.340 --> 00:41:25.519
be on the blessing side of thing of the those

00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:28.019
who bless the government of Israel See what he's

00:41:28.019 --> 00:41:30.880
doing here. You see that see that always any

00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:34.400
He will keep coming back to that. So the main

00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:37.239
question which is really what I hope we're gonna

00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.920
get into is What is Israel? Those who bless Israel

00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:42.079
is what it says. It doesn't say the government

00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:44.880
of it, it says the nation of Israel. So that's

00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:47.059
in the Bible. As a Christian, I believe that.

00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:50.400
Where is that? I can find it. Big mistake by

00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:52.300
Ted Cruz, by the way. If you're going to start

00:41:52.300 --> 00:41:54.239
citing the Bible, you better have your P's and

00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:57.579
Q's together. That was a very, very big mistake.

00:41:57.980 --> 00:42:00.739
Have the scripture off the tip of my... You pull

00:42:00.739 --> 00:42:02.619
out the phone and use the Google. It's in Genesis,

00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:05.599
but... Tucker was prepared for this. He knew

00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.960
that this was coming. Yeah, but Tucker also gets

00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:10.960
it wrong. You're quoting a Bible phrase. You

00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:12.039
don't have context for it. You don't know where

00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:13.860
in the Bible it is, but that's like her theology.

00:42:13.940 --> 00:42:17.260
I'm confused. What does that even mean? Tucker.

00:42:17.380 --> 00:42:19.400
Ouch. I'm a Christian. I want to know what you're

00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:24.360
talking about. Where does also what Tucker just

00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:26.800
said is like, wow, dude, like I'm a Christian.

00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:28.659
I want to know what you're talking about. He

00:42:28.659 --> 00:42:31.820
is pushing on what is your real theology. That's

00:42:31.820 --> 00:42:34.500
really what he did. Tucker is not dumb. He's

00:42:34.500 --> 00:42:36.500
very intelligent. When the Bible it is, but that's

00:42:36.500 --> 00:42:39.199
like her theology? I'm confused. What does that

00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:42.360
even mean? Tucker. I'm a Christian. I want to

00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.739
know what you're talking about. Where does my

00:42:45.739 --> 00:42:48.980
support for Israel come from? Number one, because

00:42:48.980 --> 00:42:51.000
biblically we are commanded to support Israel,

00:42:51.099 --> 00:42:54.739
but number two. Hold on. You're a senator and

00:42:54.739 --> 00:42:56.539
now you're throwing out theology and I am a Christian.

00:42:56.559 --> 00:42:59.090
I am allowed to weigh in on this. We are commanded

00:42:59.090 --> 00:43:00.849
as Christians support the government of Israel

00:43:00.849 --> 00:43:03.130
there. He does it again. He does it again Wow,

00:43:03.329 --> 00:43:05.250
he does it again. We are commanded to support

00:43:05.250 --> 00:43:07.710
Israel and we're told is we're told those who

00:43:07.710 --> 00:43:09.329
bless Israel will be blessed But what hold on

00:43:09.329 --> 00:43:11.349
define Israel, this is important. Are you kidding?

00:43:11.769 --> 00:43:14.210
This this majority Christian tree define Israel

00:43:14.210 --> 00:43:16.309
could do do you not know what Israel is? That

00:43:16.309 --> 00:43:17.789
would be the country. I'm just gonna stop it

00:43:17.789 --> 00:43:21.170
right here because this is this is the core tenant

00:43:21.170 --> 00:43:25.460
and This goes on for a while and Tucker says

00:43:25.460 --> 00:43:30.340
it's Genesis 16. No, it wasn't it's 12 But before

00:43:30.340 --> 00:43:33.460
we do that I think it's important to go to the

00:43:33.460 --> 00:43:36.280
person who has been has been in the background

00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:41.519
for ten years as a very young Christian and came

00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:47.079
to prominence By two ways by being President

00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:51.699
Trump being elected Elon Musk buying X and allowing

00:43:51.929 --> 00:43:55.690
you know, any kind of speech, even if it's hateful

00:43:55.690 --> 00:43:59.949
or racist or misogynist or anti -Semitic, which

00:43:59.949 --> 00:44:03.269
I'm not against. You know, the freedom of speech

00:44:03.269 --> 00:44:05.710
is right there. So you can, I'll defend your

00:44:05.710 --> 00:44:11.469
right to say it. But really broke through and

00:44:11.469 --> 00:44:14.269
I think has filled this void that Charlie Kirk

00:44:14.269 --> 00:44:18.710
left because for every, I wish I had five cents

00:44:18.710 --> 00:44:21.309
for every parent who has emailed me and says,

00:44:21.659 --> 00:44:25.079
What is it with this Nick Fuentes? My boys are

00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:27.619
listening to him. They are lapping everything

00:44:27.619 --> 00:44:32.119
up. And Fuentes is a pro. I'm talking pastor

00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:36.500
pro. I'm talking Rush Limbaugh type pro as an

00:44:36.500 --> 00:44:40.079
orator, as a speaker. You rarely even catch an

00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:44.019
mm or an ah from him. And he's very young. He's

00:44:44.019 --> 00:44:47.860
in his mid -20s, just incredibly articulate.

00:44:51.780 --> 00:44:54.420
Helps everyone identify with the issues we discussed

00:44:54.420 --> 00:44:57.099
earlier can't pay the rent, you know climate

00:44:57.099 --> 00:44:59.659
change all the all the things The world is screwed.

00:44:59.659 --> 00:45:03.599
He never offers any solutions or any you know,

00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:06.280
any positive is just and that's a typical thing

00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:09.860
That's what you do on that's what many Famous

00:45:09.860 --> 00:45:12.320
speakers have done this sucks. It sucks. It sucks

00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:14.679
people go. Yeah, it sucks. He's a guy my age

00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:18.480
talking about it but he had the root for him

00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:22.920
and his Antipathy towards Israel and the Jews

00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.840
because he literally says the Jews are just no

00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:29.320
good They're a problem and he highlights all

00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:32.360
kinds of things that are very easy to pick up

00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:37.820
and understand and it really he in this clip

00:45:37.820 --> 00:45:40.599
explains the difference between successionism

00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:44.599
and Dispensationalism and I was blown away by

00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:48.760
how good he does it Christians, a lot of Christians

00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:50.699
have this idea that... And by the way, he's doing

00:45:50.699 --> 00:45:54.300
this on the Hodge Twins podcast, that's the two

00:45:54.300 --> 00:45:57.000
black brothers, who by their own admission just

00:45:57.000 --> 00:45:59.179
only kind of started to get into reading the

00:45:59.179 --> 00:46:01.900
Bible and exploring their faith. So just imagine

00:46:01.900 --> 00:46:04.400
how easy it is to put this into their minds.

00:46:04.900 --> 00:46:07.800
Christians, a lot of Christians have this idea

00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:10.610
that, you know, we all... we all read the Bible.

00:46:10.809 --> 00:46:12.110
You know, the Jews are the Old Testament, we're

00:46:12.110 --> 00:46:14.829
the New Testament. But the New Testament, the

00:46:14.829 --> 00:46:16.750
relationship between the New Testament and the

00:46:16.750 --> 00:46:19.530
Old Testament, it's not a sequel. The New Testament

00:46:19.530 --> 00:46:23.690
and the theology in it replaces the theology

00:46:23.690 --> 00:46:26.630
of the Old Testament. So in the Old Testament,

00:46:26.710 --> 00:46:28.650
you have a religion that's based on the people

00:46:28.650 --> 00:46:31.789
of Israel. They make sacrifices at the temple.

00:46:32.269 --> 00:46:34.809
They have rabbis. They have the law. But when

00:46:34.809 --> 00:46:37.570
Jesus arrives, He changes everything, because

00:46:37.570 --> 00:46:40.889
He becomes the law. We say that He is the law.

00:46:41.010 --> 00:46:43.750
The law is embodied in Him. So the Jews are saying,

00:46:43.809 --> 00:46:47.690
well, the law of Moses says, you have to stone

00:46:47.690 --> 00:46:50.469
this woman. And He says, well, I'm the law. He

00:46:50.469 --> 00:46:54.099
says, let He who is without sin... cast the first

00:46:54.099 --> 00:46:56.719
stone. He completes and fulfills and perfects

00:46:56.719 --> 00:47:00.039
the law. He personifies the law. So, in the same

00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:03.039
way that God gave Moses the Ten Commandments

00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:06.659
in the Ark of the Covenant, God gave us the law

00:47:06.659 --> 00:47:09.960
through Mary. We see Mary... as the new ark of

00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:12.679
the covenant. We see Jesus as the new Ten Commandments.

00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:16.800
She carried him in her womb, just like the ark

00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:19.880
carried the Old Testament. He is the law. He

00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:21.980
fulfills the law, just like the Old Testament

00:47:21.980 --> 00:47:25.360
was the law. And then, when Jesus dies on the

00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:29.260
cross, the veil is torn inside the temple. And

00:47:29.260 --> 00:47:32.519
within a generation, the temple itself is destroyed.

00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:34.000
You know, as I always talk about the temple,

00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:37.219
the temple itself is destroyed because Jesus

00:47:37.219 --> 00:47:39.800
becomes a new temple. There's no need for a temple.

00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:43.500
There's no need for animal sacrifices. He becomes

00:47:43.500 --> 00:47:46.440
a sacrifice. So, in the Old Testament, they're

00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:48.360
sacrificing animals. They talk about the red

00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:51.119
heifer. They're trying to do that. God gives

00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:54.119
us a more perfect sacrifice, He offers up Himself.

00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:56.619
And so this is where a lot of the Protestants

00:47:56.619 --> 00:47:59.539
say, well, you know, we need to support Israel

00:47:59.539 --> 00:48:02.380
because the Bible says those who bless Israel

00:48:02.380 --> 00:48:04.460
will be blessed. But Israel... They're talking

00:48:04.460 --> 00:48:06.940
about the family. Well, they're talking about...

00:48:06.940 --> 00:48:09.440
that's in the book of Genesis. And the book of

00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:11.960
Genesis is talking about what is Israel in the

00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:14.019
Old Testament, in the first covenant that God

00:48:14.019 --> 00:48:16.940
makes with the Jewish people. When Jesus comes,

00:48:17.179 --> 00:48:20.110
just like everything else, Israel's transformed.

00:48:20.269 --> 00:48:22.710
The laws changed, the priesthood has changed,

00:48:22.849 --> 00:48:25.469
the temple has changed, and Israel changes. What

00:48:25.469 --> 00:48:28.309
was the family in the race becomes the body of

00:48:28.309 --> 00:48:32.030
Christ. He says there is neither Jew nor Gentile.

00:48:32.590 --> 00:48:35.750
The new Israel is the Christians. We're the new

00:48:35.750 --> 00:48:38.250
Israel. If you believe in Christ, you're now

00:48:38.250 --> 00:48:40.769
the chosen people. You enter into the covenant

00:48:40.769 --> 00:48:43.949
with God. You're grafted onto that tree. And

00:48:43.949 --> 00:48:47.210
so that's a theological difference that we call

00:48:47.210 --> 00:48:50.579
supersessionist. has with these dispensationalist

00:48:50.579 --> 00:48:55.300
Christians. Yeah, because I always hear Republicans

00:48:55.300 --> 00:48:57.980
saying they are God -chosen people. Right. That's

00:48:57.980 --> 00:49:01.719
not necessarily true. Not anymore, no. So I've

00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:04.960
heard my favorite pastor tell me replacement

00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:08.139
theology, which is what this is, is a lie from

00:49:08.139 --> 00:49:11.780
the pit of hell. It is. And let me tell you,

00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:15.269
brother, I am seeing young pastors going away

00:49:15.269 --> 00:49:18.030
from dispensationalism, moving towards this.

00:49:19.030 --> 00:49:21.789
Just do a search and try to find who's talking

00:49:21.789 --> 00:49:26.510
for or against dispensationalism. This is a big,

00:49:26.510 --> 00:49:30.590
big topic. And I think that it's probably even

00:49:30.590 --> 00:49:34.010
really difficult to even discuss from the pulpit

00:49:34.010 --> 00:49:37.590
because it's so deep. It is. And so I'm just,

00:49:38.449 --> 00:49:41.980
you've heard, this is my presentation is All

00:49:41.980 --> 00:49:44.099
of this that we're seeing in the media against

00:49:44.099 --> 00:49:49.739
Israel and Jews comes from this. And the Schofield

00:49:49.739 --> 00:49:55.159
Bible is kind of used as the bridge. Wow. How

00:49:55.159 --> 00:49:59.119
much time do we have? I think we just need to

00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:00.719
do what we need to do. No, I want to keep it

00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.159
simple because you can get into a very convoluted

00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:08.519
conversation. Here's the thing. When we went

00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:15.320
to Israel back in... We had a Messianic Jewish

00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:18.340
guy who had served in the army there. He'd made

00:50:18.340 --> 00:50:22.579
all y 'all. He was American by birth, Jewish,

00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:26.800
and he was our tour guide. Brilliant, brilliant

00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:35.139
individual. He reminded me that we as Christians,

00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:37.960
followers of Jesus, have been grafted into the

00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:41.980
vine. The vine doesn't change. I've been around.

00:50:42.059 --> 00:50:44.480
I was actually down in Mexico doing grafting.

00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:47.599
I know what grafting is. I know how it works.

00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:50.539
And I was able to participate and actually do

00:50:50.539 --> 00:50:54.719
some of that with macadamia nut trees and different

00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:58.619
things. Actual grafting one branch onto another.

00:50:58.699 --> 00:51:02.500
When you graft a branch onto a tree, the essence

00:51:02.500 --> 00:51:05.460
of the tree doesn't change. It never changes.

00:51:05.699 --> 00:51:07.420
It's just now you've got a different branch.

00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:10.070
You've got a new branch. that produces a different

00:51:10.070 --> 00:51:13.250
kind of fruit or nut or whatever it's doing.

00:51:15.449 --> 00:51:17.429
And when the scripture reminds us in the book

00:51:17.429 --> 00:51:20.090
of Romans that we've been grafted into the original

00:51:20.090 --> 00:51:22.809
vine, it's not to do away with the original vine.

00:51:23.289 --> 00:51:25.929
The graft doesn't take over the tree. Which you

00:51:25.929 --> 00:51:28.690
literally heard Fuentes say, like, now we're

00:51:28.690 --> 00:51:31.050
new, we're the new tree. And we've been grafted.

00:51:31.150 --> 00:51:33.789
He said two different things and yet made them

00:51:33.789 --> 00:51:37.590
the same and it's not. I could shoot holes all

00:51:37.590 --> 00:51:41.329
through that I know you can. While he'd be rolling

00:51:41.329 --> 00:51:43.250
pretty well, I'd go, okay, okay, okay. And then

00:51:43.250 --> 00:51:45.429
he would say something completely opposite and

00:51:45.429 --> 00:51:47.469
didn't even realize it was opposite. He doesn't

00:51:47.469 --> 00:51:50.989
know. And so it's interesting because when you

00:51:50.989 --> 00:51:53.869
begin to read in Romans chapter 9, 10, 11, you

00:51:53.869 --> 00:51:56.289
begin to see God's heart for Israel from the

00:51:56.289 --> 00:51:58.869
New Testament perspective and through Paul, the

00:51:58.869 --> 00:52:02.170
apostle Paul. Paul was a Jew. Paul loved the

00:52:02.170 --> 00:52:06.019
Jewish people. And initially, he wanted to go

00:52:06.019 --> 00:52:07.559
to the Jewish people, and God said, no, you're

00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:09.679
going to go to the Gentiles. So he sends them

00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:12.000
out to Asia, sends them out all over the known

00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:14.099
world at the time, sends them to Rome, sends

00:52:14.099 --> 00:52:18.559
them across the sea. And he's now leading people.

00:52:19.059 --> 00:52:22.659
He's on Mars Hill talking with philosophers about

00:52:22.659 --> 00:52:25.800
the unknown God. And he's saying, this is who

00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:31.170
the unknown God is. Paul, who's a great Jew,

00:52:31.710 --> 00:52:35.989
still says this. He's talking about Israel's

00:52:35.989 --> 00:52:39.210
unbelief in Romans chapter 9, the very end of

00:52:39.210 --> 00:52:41.570
it. He says, what should we say then? That Gentiles

00:52:41.570 --> 00:52:43.829
did not pursue righteousness, have attained it.

00:52:44.130 --> 00:52:46.909
That is a righteousness that is by faith. But

00:52:46.909 --> 00:52:51.030
that Israel who pursued a law that would lead

00:52:51.030 --> 00:52:53.250
to righteousness did not succeed in reaching

00:52:53.250 --> 00:52:55.989
the law. Why? because they did not pursue it

00:52:55.989 --> 00:52:58.570
by faith. So he's saying, this is what happened.

00:52:58.630 --> 00:53:01.130
This is where the miss happened. The law wasn't

00:53:01.130 --> 00:53:03.030
the problem. It was the way they pursued the

00:53:03.030 --> 00:53:05.590
law. They didn't do it by faith. They did it

00:53:05.590 --> 00:53:09.349
by gritted teeth, obedience, legalism. He says

00:53:09.349 --> 00:53:11.389
this. Why? Because they did not pursue it by

00:53:11.389 --> 00:53:15.409
faith, but as if it were based on works. They

00:53:15.409 --> 00:53:18.530
have stumbled over the stumbling stone as it

00:53:18.530 --> 00:53:21.940
is written. Behold, I'm laying in Zion a stone

00:53:21.940 --> 00:53:24.500
of stumbling and a rock of offense. We know that's

00:53:24.500 --> 00:53:27.340
Jesus. And whoever believes in him will not be

00:53:27.340 --> 00:53:30.619
put to shame. Now, opens up to chapter 10 and

00:53:30.619 --> 00:53:33.900
listen to what Paul says. Brothers, my heart's

00:53:33.900 --> 00:53:38.360
desire and prayer to God for them, for who? The

00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:42.619
Jewish people. Israel. Is that they may be saved.

00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:46.579
For I bear them witness that they have a zeal

00:53:46.579 --> 00:53:49.460
for God, but not according to knowledge. for

00:53:49.460 --> 00:53:52.079
being ignorant of the righteousness of God and

00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:54.920
seeking to establish their own, they did not

00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:57.500
submit to God's righteousness. I'll end with

00:53:57.500 --> 00:54:01.280
this, for Christ is the end of the law for righteousness

00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:05.380
to everyone who believes. So Paul makes it clear,

00:54:05.500 --> 00:54:08.340
I am praying that they will come to Christ, that

00:54:08.340 --> 00:54:11.260
they will believe by faith that their righteousness

00:54:11.260 --> 00:54:14.079
will not be earned by works under the law, which

00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:16.820
it couldn't be. but will be granted to them by

00:54:16.820 --> 00:54:19.619
faith through grace." So he's showing you how

00:54:19.619 --> 00:54:23.039
the old and the new work together. Now, there's

00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:27.980
another amazing scripture where Jesus himself

00:54:27.980 --> 00:54:31.159
says something fascinating. Let me go to it because

00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:35.500
this matters. Jesus said this in Matthew 5 verse

00:54:35.500 --> 00:54:39.800
17 in the context of the Sermon on the Mount,

00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:42.099
which is considered one of his greatest teachings.

00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:45.619
He says, do not think that I have come to abolish

00:54:45.619 --> 00:54:48.880
the law or prophets. I have not come to abolish

00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:52.199
them, but to fulfill them. And that's exactly

00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:56.500
what Jesus did. He was able to fulfill the law

00:54:56.500 --> 00:55:01.260
and yet still hand grace to people who have no

00:55:01.260 --> 00:55:04.360
hope for fulfilling the law. He was able to do

00:55:04.360 --> 00:55:07.460
that because he was not only the son of man,

00:55:07.500 --> 00:55:10.159
he was the son of God at the same time. Can we

00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:14.750
break this down? to help people understand what

00:55:14.750 --> 00:55:24.030
Israel is in Genesis 12 and today. That's a huge

00:55:24.030 --> 00:55:28.150
question. This is why everybody is all over the

00:55:28.150 --> 00:55:31.789
map with that. That's the crux, man. That's a

00:55:31.789 --> 00:55:33.650
big part of it. Here's a short answer. The Bible

00:55:33.650 --> 00:55:36.050
calls believers to love God's purpose, honors,

00:55:36.210 --> 00:55:39.219
covenant, faithfulness, pray for peace and stand

00:55:39.219 --> 00:55:42.500
against anti -Semitism. I mean, it's clear throughout,

00:55:42.539 --> 00:55:45.679
both old and new. Paul, if you read through 9,

00:55:45.699 --> 00:55:48.860
10, 11, 12 in Romans, you'll see God's heart

00:55:48.860 --> 00:55:52.199
is still for Israel. It does not give Christians

00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:55.579
a blanket command to endorse every policy or

00:55:55.579 --> 00:55:58.579
action of the modern nation state of Israel.

00:55:58.699 --> 00:56:01.119
Which would be crazy because if you look at leaders

00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:04.059
of Israel throughout the ages, we had some pretty

00:56:04.059 --> 00:56:06.760
bad kings who were doing some pretty wicked and

00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:09.440
dumb stuff. And it's exactly what you hear conservatives

00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:12.579
talking about, American exceptionalism. We're

00:56:12.579 --> 00:56:15.699
exceptional because America was founded by God

00:56:15.699 --> 00:56:19.119
and is in the heart of God, the apple of God's

00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:22.619
eye, along with Israel. But what happens is...

00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:25.239
But you won't hear a single one of those conservatives

00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:27.639
that use that statement or phrase to say we are

00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:30.780
under American, you know, godly, righteous exceptionalism.

00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:33.760
They will not say everything our government does

00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:36.519
is right. They're the very ones beating the drum

00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:39.500
saying we got to get this thing fixed. So it

00:56:39.500 --> 00:56:41.960
doesn't even make sense in terms of just pure

00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:46.019
logic. Much less biblical faith, but pure logic

00:56:46.019 --> 00:56:48.719
to say... Oh, every, yeah, we have to support

00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:51.420
Israel blindly in terms of their government.

00:56:51.739 --> 00:56:53.980
Well, so I'm sorry to interrupt you. No, no,

00:56:54.219 --> 00:56:56.880
it's important. I need this. So the term bless,

00:56:57.500 --> 00:57:02.619
you heard Ted Cruz conflating bless with sending

00:57:02.619 --> 00:57:07.219
a money. Right. And I don't think that's a proper

00:57:07.219 --> 00:57:09.840
interpretation of the term bless. And that's

00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:13.280
what people tend to default to. Which, by the

00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:15.679
way, tithings is often seen as, thank you for

00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:18.099
blessing, blessing our church, blessing these

00:57:18.099 --> 00:57:21.800
people. Bless is very broad. Yeah, it is. It's

00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:25.940
the heart of God toward and His benevolence toward

00:57:25.940 --> 00:57:28.280
those He loves. That's blessing, the blessing

00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:32.309
of God. It's very broad. But he's just picking

00:57:32.309 --> 00:57:35.329
one out of many opportunities and options to

00:57:35.329 --> 00:57:38.610
bless. One of the things that we do, and I as

00:57:38.610 --> 00:57:41.250
a pastor believe this wholeheartedly, Genesis

00:57:41.250 --> 00:57:45.829
12, where it talks about the covenant, the Abrahamic

00:57:45.829 --> 00:57:48.829
covenant. And it is where God says that in you

00:57:48.829 --> 00:57:50.469
and through you, all the peoples in the earth

00:57:50.469 --> 00:57:53.869
will be blessed. But he actually talks about

00:57:53.869 --> 00:57:56.409
blessing Israel. Those who bless Israel will

00:57:56.409 --> 00:58:01.630
be blessed. I do believe that it's not just money,

00:58:01.769 --> 00:58:05.510
but I believe that resources is important. And

00:58:05.510 --> 00:58:09.730
so we as a church support Amir Safardi, who is

00:58:09.730 --> 00:58:14.110
a Jewish messianic Jew who is one of the most

00:58:14.110 --> 00:58:17.909
knowledgeable in terms of crossover. He helps

00:58:17.909 --> 00:58:22.630
people like me understand what's happening prophetically

00:58:22.630 --> 00:58:26.190
from both the Old and New Testament in Israel.

00:58:26.530 --> 00:58:29.739
So we support him and resource him. because we

00:58:29.739 --> 00:58:32.119
want what he's doing because his heart is to

00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:34.699
reach the Jewish people. Which is ultimately

00:58:34.699 --> 00:58:37.440
what we want. And that's the bottom line. But

00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:40.079
it's interesting, I think Ted Cruz makes a huge

00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:44.230
mistake here by Well -meaning, well -intended.

00:58:44.329 --> 00:58:47.670
But simplifying and not really going all the

00:58:47.670 --> 00:58:49.369
way down and just saying, well, I'm supposed

00:58:49.369 --> 00:58:54.409
to bless Israel. And he's hiding himself under

00:58:54.409 --> 00:58:57.170
some theology without really being able to explain.

00:58:57.530 --> 00:59:01.349
And he's also lying because, you know, is blessing

00:59:01.349 --> 00:59:06.289
Israel sending them guns? Well, that can be debated.

00:59:06.730 --> 00:59:08.929
That can be debated how much of a blessing that

00:59:08.929 --> 00:59:11.849
is. But just to put it, oh, well, I was taught

00:59:12.250 --> 00:59:15.110
So I think he doesn't he doesn't help anybody

00:59:15.110 --> 00:59:19.610
with a track that that got him stuck Yes, he

00:59:19.610 --> 00:59:22.329
sort of fell into that trap. Yeah, I don't know

00:59:22.329 --> 00:59:26.949
that I don't know that That Tucker was trying

00:59:26.949 --> 00:59:30.769
to set him up. It just feels like more that he

00:59:30.769 --> 00:59:33.460
fell into that It's like he stepped into something

00:59:33.460 --> 00:59:35.260
and he didn't know how to get out of it. I watched

00:59:35.260 --> 00:59:37.420
the whole thing. Tucker is very smart. He led

00:59:37.420 --> 00:59:40.000
him right into it. He led him right into it.

00:59:40.340 --> 00:59:43.079
And you can see that Tucker has also been influenced

00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:46.320
by people. That's what scares me about a lot

00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:48.579
of these young people that are becoming followers

00:59:48.579 --> 00:59:51.820
of Jesus, but they're soaking up people that

00:59:51.820 --> 00:59:54.500
are not there to disciple them in Christ and

00:59:54.500 --> 00:59:57.179
disciple them in the Word of God. They're discipling

00:59:57.179 --> 00:59:59.639
them in cultural interpretations of what's going

00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:03.289
on. That's not discipleship. But it's happening

01:00:03.289 --> 01:00:07.289
everywhere, brother. Young pastors, I see young

01:00:07.289 --> 01:00:10.909
pastors saying, I'm not even going to name names.

01:00:11.150 --> 01:00:15.590
It was like, I really was a dispensationalist

01:00:15.590 --> 01:00:19.449
and I was wrong. And I've taught on this and

01:00:19.449 --> 01:00:21.309
I was wrong. And this is a guy who's probably

01:00:21.309 --> 01:00:26.190
35, maybe 40 years old. And this is everywhere

01:00:26.190 --> 01:00:29.150
right now. And I believe it's out of weakness.

01:00:29.449 --> 01:00:32.909
And it's audience capture. It's audience capture

01:00:32.909 --> 01:00:38.110
in the church. But our own people question, when

01:00:38.110 --> 01:00:40.429
I say our own people, our people here in our

01:00:40.429 --> 01:00:43.329
own church question, why are we praying for Israel?

01:00:45.110 --> 01:00:48.170
Even though I talk about it almost every time

01:00:48.170 --> 01:00:52.820
we do it. But that's exactly it. We're just Christian

01:00:52.820 --> 01:00:54.719
Zionists? Because this is what culture is telling

01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:56.940
us. Oh, you're Christian Zionists. Well, I don't

01:00:56.940 --> 01:00:58.199
like the term Zionists. So we're getting a label

01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:01.079
slapped on us because culture is telling them,

01:01:01.239 --> 01:01:06.579
not the church, not theology, but some person

01:01:06.579 --> 01:01:09.440
who has a microphone and a computer and a podcast

01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:12.099
channel. But it's powerful mojo, my brother.

01:01:12.659 --> 01:01:17.519
But it's deceptive. But the tragedy for me is

01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:19.500
a lot of these people that are going down these

01:01:19.500 --> 01:01:22.239
tracks. don't even realize they're participating

01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:25.179
in deception. Because when you're deceived, the

01:01:25.179 --> 01:01:27.000
nature of deception is you don't know. But they're

01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:29.699
being told that they have been deceived. And

01:01:29.699 --> 01:01:33.179
here's this so -called evidence that, you know,

01:01:33.300 --> 01:01:38.860
I can recite it. For 1800 years, this was not

01:01:38.860 --> 01:01:45.099
how Scripture was interpreted until Thomas Hardy,

01:01:45.960 --> 01:01:49.159
Am I saying that right? Darby? Darby. Yeah, sorry.

01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:52.739
John Darby. I'm all over the place. Thomas Dolby.

01:01:52.820 --> 01:01:55.260
He's the one that did it with science. With science.

01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:59.380
John Darby. Blinded. And, you know, so it's very

01:01:59.380 --> 01:02:02.260
easy to accept, oh, well, that was the Psi -op

01:02:02.260 --> 01:02:05.440
right there, and the Jews did it by codifying

01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:08.860
it in the Schofield Bible. That's powerful stuff.

01:02:09.099 --> 01:02:12.619
So mind -bending. And it is so tragic because

01:02:12.619 --> 01:02:16.050
good people who are well -meaning get caught

01:02:16.050 --> 01:02:18.809
in this trap. And they don't go to their pastor.

01:02:18.889 --> 01:02:20.409
They don't go to a theologian. They don't go

01:02:20.409 --> 01:02:23.110
to a professor and say, help me understand the

01:02:23.110 --> 01:02:26.949
bigger picture. They go to each other. The blind

01:02:26.949 --> 01:02:29.570
leading the blind. And that's what we have, the

01:02:29.570 --> 01:02:32.650
telegraph game. And you saw Fuentes just go right

01:02:32.650 --> 01:02:34.710
down that track. But you see how good he is at

01:02:34.710 --> 01:02:36.570
it. Oh, he's great at it. I've always been thinking,

01:02:36.889 --> 01:02:39.409
who does he work for? He's not working for an

01:02:39.409 --> 01:02:42.550
intel agency. He's being worked. I think he's

01:02:42.550 --> 01:02:45.659
being worked by the enemy. by the enemy. Let's

01:02:45.659 --> 01:02:48.920
get back to where it matters. We are commanded

01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:52.880
in Scripture, not just in Psalm 122, in terms

01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:56.099
of supporting Israel. Even the word support,

01:02:56.519 --> 01:02:58.699
I feel like I have to qualify it. Let's pray

01:02:58.699 --> 01:03:01.199
for the peace of Jerusalem in 122 -6. Pray for

01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:03.460
the peace, which the word peace is the word shalom,

01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:06.420
that's in the Old Testament. In the Greek and

01:03:06.420 --> 01:03:09.360
the New Testament, it's the word arene, and they

01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:13.259
mean the same thing, and it means complete. whole,

01:03:13.259 --> 01:03:17.019
total, nothing broken, nothing missing. And that's

01:03:17.019 --> 01:03:19.079
what it means. So that's what we're to pray for

01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:22.739
them. So my thought is this, if God's calling

01:03:22.739 --> 01:03:26.780
us to pray for Israel, and Israel's offline,

01:03:27.079 --> 01:03:30.000
let's say they're missing it. And we see historically

01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:32.199
throughout Scripture, they went through these

01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:35.980
cyclical, you know, these cycles of where, you

01:03:35.980 --> 01:03:37.719
know, they were doing great as a nation, they

01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:40.739
were following God, they had a good king, and

01:03:40.730 --> 01:03:43.190
and they got comfortable and then debauchery

01:03:43.190 --> 01:03:45.269
and all these things, sin came in and entered

01:03:45.269 --> 01:03:47.989
in, false prophets. Broken. Then they could start

01:03:47.989 --> 01:03:50.789
back down the bottom part of the cycle. And it

01:03:50.789 --> 01:03:54.949
happened over and over and over. And of course,

01:03:55.130 --> 01:03:56.889
it's like... Can I ask you something about that?

01:03:56.889 --> 01:03:59.929
Yeah, go ahead. Do you think that Israel, which

01:03:59.929 --> 01:04:03.710
is pretty much a secular state, they're in a

01:04:03.710 --> 01:04:08.039
bad cycle? Yes, I do. That's important. But that

01:04:08.039 --> 01:04:11.039
doesn't mean we stop praying for them more than

01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:13.300
ever. They need more prayer. This is what's interesting

01:04:13.300 --> 01:04:16.119
to me. I remember we prayed for St. Mary's Catholic

01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:18.260
Church here in town. It's a great church. They

01:04:18.260 --> 01:04:23.300
have a wonderful shepherd there. Back when we

01:04:23.300 --> 01:04:26.619
were praying for them by name, I got a couple

01:04:26.619 --> 01:04:29.239
of letters of people upset that we were praying

01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:30.820
for the Catholic Church because they're not even

01:04:30.820 --> 01:04:33.690
Christians according to these letters. And I'm

01:04:33.690 --> 01:04:35.869
like, who made you judge and jury on this deal,

01:04:35.969 --> 01:04:40.110
right? And so what I did, I got up the next time

01:04:40.110 --> 01:04:43.210
and I said, you know, if someone has a problem

01:04:43.210 --> 01:04:45.750
with a Catholic church or a different kind of

01:04:45.750 --> 01:04:48.190
church, isn't that all the more reason for us

01:04:48.190 --> 01:04:52.829
to pray for them? I see Israel the same way.

01:04:53.250 --> 01:04:55.190
If we think they're in a bad cycle right now,

01:04:55.190 --> 01:04:57.929
and historically they've had these cycles, all

01:04:57.929 --> 01:05:00.849
the more reason to pray for them, all the more

01:05:00.849 --> 01:05:05.010
reason to bless them. This goes out to Candice

01:05:05.010 --> 01:05:07.789
and Nick and anybody else, Tucker, the Bible

01:05:07.789 --> 01:05:10.670
says we're also supposed to bless our enemies

01:05:10.670 --> 01:05:16.889
and to pray for those who curse you. So either

01:05:16.889 --> 01:05:20.650
way, you're captured in this command to bless

01:05:20.650 --> 01:05:25.849
and to pray for. And so to me, it's very simple.

01:05:26.269 --> 01:05:29.150
I'm watching all this, I call it theological

01:05:29.150 --> 01:05:32.550
acrobatics. where you're just trying to create

01:05:32.550 --> 01:05:35.869
these cases for something. And it's so convoluted

01:05:35.869 --> 01:05:38.250
and complex that when it gets to the next influencer,

01:05:38.309 --> 01:05:40.909
they can't even repeat it correctly because it's

01:05:40.909 --> 01:05:45.130
too complex. And when things move towards complexity,

01:05:45.210 --> 01:05:48.090
I get concerned because you can do a lot more

01:05:48.090 --> 01:05:50.269
interpretation with complexity than you can with

01:05:50.269 --> 01:05:53.130
simplicity. So I try to keep it simple saint

01:05:53.130 --> 01:05:56.909
instead of keep it simple stupid, kiss. And the

01:05:56.909 --> 01:05:59.210
simplicity for me is, I'm going to do what God

01:05:59.210 --> 01:06:02.469
told me to do. And I can get caught up in all

01:06:02.469 --> 01:06:04.809
the conversations and convolution and all the

01:06:04.809 --> 01:06:07.010
theology of it, but at the end of the day, we're

01:06:07.010 --> 01:06:10.170
commanded to pray for them. And this is kind

01:06:10.170 --> 01:06:13.449
of the point where it comes down to me because

01:06:13.449 --> 01:06:16.030
you and I are very honest with each other. It's

01:06:16.030 --> 01:06:19.650
the basis of our friendship. Man, I've heard,

01:06:19.989 --> 01:06:25.150
I've listened to 20 hours, not just long, but

01:06:25.150 --> 01:06:28.630
short, and I've heard all the arguments, and

01:06:28.630 --> 01:06:32.389
most of it is against dispensationalism. And

01:06:32.389 --> 01:06:34.829
dispensationalism, there's a lot more to it about

01:06:34.829 --> 01:06:38.090
the millennium, about the pre -tribulation rapture.

01:06:38.389 --> 01:06:40.650
I don't think that's for today's podcast, although,

01:06:40.869 --> 01:06:43.090
man, I do want to get into it. We can talk more

01:06:43.090 --> 01:06:46.789
about it for sure. But the beauty is, thank you

01:06:46.789 --> 01:06:52.039
for saying that, the complexity is what overshadows

01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:59.719
the very simple word. I'm not a bad guy if I

01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:03.300
bless Israel, if I pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

01:07:03.900 --> 01:07:07.760
Now, culture says, you're a Zionist, you're part

01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:10.679
of the problem, this is why the Jews are killing

01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:14.880
us, you know, so... I can't help that. I can

01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:18.599
only pray for people who say that. That's what

01:07:18.599 --> 01:07:24.860
I like so much about you. I don't want to tell

01:07:24.860 --> 01:07:27.599
you what you are, but my impression is that you

01:07:27.599 --> 01:07:32.900
always just go back to the Word. Do you hear

01:07:32.900 --> 01:07:37.380
that cracking? The theology is not quite as important

01:07:37.380 --> 01:07:40.760
as just the Word of God, what we are commanded

01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:44.809
to do. simpler, and I think everything that's

01:07:44.809 --> 01:07:49.309
been created in this whole conversation is really

01:07:49.309 --> 01:07:53.949
only for political gain. I think the Holy Spirit's

01:07:53.949 --> 01:07:56.269
telling us when to stop. Political gain, but

01:07:56.269 --> 01:07:59.429
also for likes, comments, subscribers. That's

01:07:59.429 --> 01:08:01.909
all political gain in my mind. They love this

01:08:01.909 --> 01:08:05.230
stuff. This gives them a hot button, and that's

01:08:05.230 --> 01:08:07.369
what they need. That's how they gain more followers,

01:08:07.690 --> 01:08:11.090
and they get caught up in it. I think the tragedy

01:08:11.090 --> 01:08:13.429
what I'm seeing and what's happening in influencer

01:08:13.429 --> 01:08:18.270
podcasting is that they get so caught up into

01:08:18.270 --> 01:08:23.029
it, their entire worldview gets informed by this.

01:08:23.229 --> 01:08:26.729
To where now when they see a Jewish person, you

01:08:26.729 --> 01:08:29.189
know, Orthodox Jewish person, they have disdain

01:08:29.189 --> 01:08:32.930
for them. They're falling into these traps. And

01:08:32.930 --> 01:08:35.850
what's even worse is we have pastors who are

01:08:35.850 --> 01:08:38.369
trying to go against them and getting jumping

01:08:38.369 --> 01:08:41.960
into that fray. I'm sure you can give me three

01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:45.020
pieces of scripture that tell us not to do that.

01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:47.600
You're going to lose that every single time.

01:08:48.319 --> 01:08:53.000
You cannot win that. Just read Proverbs. Don't

01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:55.539
talk with a fool. Or you become a fool. You become

01:08:55.539 --> 01:09:00.659
a fool. It's pretty simple. To kind of wind this

01:09:00.659 --> 01:09:03.380
down, I just wanted to play one clip from Jack

01:09:03.380 --> 01:09:08.989
Hibbs who is much more on I don't want to even

01:09:08.989 --> 01:09:12.350
say side of the fence. Our thinking is probably

01:09:12.350 --> 01:09:14.829
more aligned with his, and he says something

01:09:14.829 --> 01:09:17.369
really important, which I like to share. This

01:09:17.369 --> 01:09:20.850
is one of the signs of the end times, an increasing

01:09:20.850 --> 01:09:27.369
anti -Semitic, anti -Israel view. How do we know

01:09:27.369 --> 01:09:31.350
this? Because the Bible tells us, both in Ezekiel

01:09:31.350 --> 01:09:34.430
and in Zechariah, that in the last days, the

01:09:34.430 --> 01:09:37.430
world will turn against Israel. So number one,

01:09:37.770 --> 01:09:40.909
no Christian should be ruffled by the comments

01:09:40.909 --> 01:09:45.270
of particular podcasters who are now fomenting

01:09:45.270 --> 01:09:48.609
this anti -Semitic view. That should be expected

01:09:48.609 --> 01:09:50.529
if you know your Bible. It shouldn't trouble

01:09:50.529 --> 01:09:52.930
you. I love that. But it doesn't mean you should

01:09:52.930 --> 01:09:55.789
be silent either. You should speak up and expose.

01:09:55.989 --> 01:09:58.590
Paul the Apostle told us that we need to expose

01:09:58.590 --> 01:10:03.329
people even by name, and Paul did that. When

01:10:03.329 --> 01:10:05.329
you hear people saying what they're saying, I

01:10:05.329 --> 01:10:08.069
immediately go to Timothy, first and second Timothy,

01:10:08.609 --> 01:10:11.170
where in the last days, there will be those propagating

01:10:11.170 --> 01:10:15.029
doctrines of demons and teachings that are spawned

01:10:15.029 --> 01:10:18.250
on by deceiving spirits. That's what's happening.

01:10:19.210 --> 01:10:22.529
And listen to this, does not the Bible say, Trey,

01:10:22.750 --> 01:10:25.710
that Jesus Christ is returning to Israel in the

01:10:25.710 --> 01:10:27.829
second coming? Doesn't it say that he's going

01:10:27.829 --> 01:10:30.210
to return to Jerusalem? Doesn't it say that he's

01:10:30.210 --> 01:10:33.550
going to be enthroned on Mount Zion? That's what

01:10:33.550 --> 01:10:36.149
the Bible says about future prophecy regarding

01:10:36.149 --> 01:10:41.010
Jesus. But if Satan knows this, then wouldn't

01:10:41.010 --> 01:10:43.970
it be advantageous to Satan in his twisted thinking

01:10:43.970 --> 01:10:47.869
to get an anti -Semitic flow to try to abolish

01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:51.039
the viability of the nation of Israel to say

01:10:51.039 --> 01:10:53.720
that Israel's illegitimate, that it doesn't exist,

01:10:54.060 --> 01:10:55.880
that God didn't know what He was talking about

01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:58.699
when He said that in the last days before I return,

01:10:59.060 --> 01:11:01.260
I'm going to draw Israel back from all the four

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corners of the earth, and I'm going to bring

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them back into their own land while they are

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in unbelief. I'm going to cause them to prosper

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in unbelief and they won't believe in me until

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the Ezekiel 38 battle. That's where he says the

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veil is going to be lifted from their eyes and

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then they will know that I am the Lord. So, wow,

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I see this stuff happening and I hear the rhetoric

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and I hear the anti -Semitism and it just means

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for me that I'm standing for Israel. So, I like

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how he did that because he's not going against

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one particular voice. He's just saying, hey,

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read your Bible. Like, okay. Now, End Times,

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you know, again, these are other podcasts you

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and I will do. Eschatology. There's so much there.

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But I really like your message, brother man.

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The enemy is really wrecking us now. I'm not

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hearing it as much as you are. It needs a reboot.

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It's time to wind it down. Can I finish? You

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have to, please. This is so simple, and it goes

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right back to what I just read from the Apostle

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Paul, Romans chapter 10, verse 1. Brothers, my

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heart's desire and prayer to God for them, Israel,

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the Jewish people, is that they may be saved.

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That's it. Let's keep it simple. Why do we have

01:12:22.630 --> 01:12:26.470
to get so caught up? Well, because we're going

01:12:26.470 --> 01:12:30.069
for subscribers and likes and clicks. And political

01:12:30.069 --> 01:12:34.829
points, political gain. Everyone has a political

01:12:34.829 --> 01:12:37.430
handler one way or the other, brother. They all

01:12:37.430 --> 01:12:42.829
have them. Maslow is hierarchy of needs. Every

01:12:42.829 --> 01:12:45.869
human being has a need and desire to belong.

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And we choose our groups. So if you choose to

01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:55.000
go down the podcaster path and you swim in those

01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:57.180
waters long enough, you start to think, oh, this

01:12:57.180 --> 01:12:59.239
is how you do it. And I want to be, I want to

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be accepted by them. I want to be, I want to

01:13:01.859 --> 01:13:05.260
be known as an influencer. And then you start

01:13:05.260 --> 01:13:08.359
playing those games and you learn the game of

01:13:08.359 --> 01:13:12.859
pod influencer podcasting. And the tragedy of

01:13:12.859 --> 01:13:15.479
it is that you get caught up in that wave and

01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:19.100
you get caught up in more likes. Now you've.

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You're pulling in all these guests. I'm to a

01:13:21.500 --> 01:13:24.199
point where when someone invites me to be on

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their podcast, I'm starting to say no. Because

01:13:27.420 --> 01:13:30.380
I'm like, I'm going to get pulled in a weird

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conversation. And if I don't know you and have

01:13:33.420 --> 01:13:35.640
a relationship with you, I'm probably not going

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to do that. I'm pushing back. I'll just put it

01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:40.420
that way. And when I say push me, I'm not pushing

01:13:40.420 --> 01:13:42.539
somebody. I'm pushing myself back. I'm pushing

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away from the table. make it a yes or a no. Exactly.

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And make sure you are led by the Holy Spirit

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in your decision and make it that and don't waft

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about and just yes or no quickly. You know, I'm

01:13:57.029 --> 01:13:58.810
going to read the scripture on Sunday when I

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pray for Israel, the one about, brothers, my

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heart's desire and prayer. I'm going to add that

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into the Psalm 122 to say, here's the Old Testament

01:14:07.470 --> 01:14:09.829
version. Here's the New Testament version. This

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is Paul's heart. for the Jewish people. That's

01:14:12.510 --> 01:14:15.069
a good idea. That way we've got old and new,

01:14:15.109 --> 01:14:18.449
we tie them together. That's easy enough. And

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from my perspective, this conversation is just

01:14:21.750 --> 01:14:24.689
a political influence conversation. I love reading

01:14:24.689 --> 01:14:28.689
my Bible and not knowing what's going to happen.

01:14:28.689 --> 01:14:31.600
There you go. And not for show material. No,

01:14:31.739 --> 01:14:34.380
but being excited about what God is going to

01:14:34.380 --> 01:14:36.680
do. I can see all the things that are written.

01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:38.939
I'm excited how it's going to happen, whether

01:14:38.939 --> 01:14:41.319
it happens like this or like that. I believe

01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:43.960
in Him. I believe in Jesus. I'm excited about

01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:47.439
the journey, not about the specifics. I'm right,

01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:51.699
you're wrong. Please, please, how many people

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have gone down for saying that? What if we said,

01:14:55.560 --> 01:14:57.939
I think this is what it says, but it could be

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wrong. Man, that wouldn't get you. Even that

01:14:59.899 --> 01:15:01.819
would help a lot. But it wouldn't get you more

01:15:01.819 --> 01:15:04.779
subscribers. Nope. It's not sensational enough.

01:15:05.060 --> 01:15:07.340
It's just honest. Put down your screens, people.

01:15:07.500 --> 01:15:09.359
Pick up your Bibles. There's a lot more fun.

01:15:09.460 --> 01:15:15.159
There's a lot more mystery and excitement. instead

01:15:15.159 --> 01:15:16.979
of thinking, you know, at all and what's going

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to happen. All right, brother. Thank you so much.

01:15:20.460 --> 01:15:23.960
Of course. This was a tough one for me to bring

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in because it's confusing. Hey, you brought it

01:15:27.899 --> 01:15:30.180
in at the end of twenty five and twenty six.

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We're just going to we're just going to go down

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and we're going to we're going to light some

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candles, man. We're going to shine a light. I

01:15:36.500 --> 01:15:38.880
love it. And we'll be shining a light with you

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in twenty twenty six next week. We get to do

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this. Happy New Year. This is the life we've

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been blessed