Father, thank you for the privilege of what we
get to do today. Adam and I come to you as brothers,
as sons, and we thank you for the daughters that
will be listening as well. And we pray for them.
We pray for everyone. We're mindful that there
are people that will have empty chairs around
the Christmas dinner table this year. And we're
mindful of them. We pray for them. Pray that
you bring the prodigals home. And Father, we
honor you as we roll this podcast out. What a
privilege it is to do this together. and to enjoy
this amazing season. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen.
I was singing it this morning. Brother, it sticks
in your head. It does, it does. That's why it's
called a hook. Yes, like biscuits and gravy sticks
to your ribs. Like mold or fungus grace. Never
mind, never mind. So we're in the Bridge Church
studios right now. They're doing a lot of construction.
Oh my gosh, there's contractors all over the
place. Yeah, I was in here yesterday recording
some Christmas and New Year's greetings with
the staff. We were all kind of high, I think.
I think I'm there right now. What do they do?
Is that varnish? It's varnish. They did all the
doors, baseboards, trim in the Life Center, which
is connected to this building, and it's literally
down the hall, the entryway. So all that toxic
smell is filling this place. It took me right
back to when I was, I think, maybe nine years
old. We were on vacation, and it was raining,
and so I was in my room. and my parents had bought
me model airplanes to have something to do. And
I built nine, no, five model airplanes in one
day with the door and windows closed. And I'm
like, mom, I don't feel so good. Like, oh Lord.
That glue was dangerous. So many cool things
when we were kids were dangerous. You know, toys,
stamped metal, gash, eight stitches, you know,
just for playing with a toy truck. Oh, this is
so perfect. What a perfect lead in. So on Monday
I have my Sabbath because you and I both work
on Sunday and you had Sabbath as well. I did.
Man, when you really get to do it, when you really,
really, and there's like no social media, the
phone only if someone texts me, I won't even
open it up unless, if it's a text group, ignore
it. Right. And so what I try to do on these Sabbaths,
I try to read like think pieces, longer things,
you know, just to kind of get out of the cycle
that I always seem to be stuck in. And I get,
I'm going to get to the things we had as a kid
in a minute, because I found, someone actually
emailed me because I will check my email, not
for show things or anything like that. And someone
sent me one article by a Dr. Roger McFillen.
who has been a clinical psychologist for 20 years.
And at some point, while I dove deeper into things
he has written, at some point I realized he's
a believer, which kind of blew me away. And I'm
just thinking, you know, my prayer always, when
I talk about daily bread, Lord, give me guidance
and provision. And I never think of provision
as money or, you know, anything like that. It's
resources. Give me the guidance of what you want
me to do and give me the resources to do it.
That's why I've become so much more laid back
about prepping for my shows, because I just pray.
I said, God, just show me. And of course, my
job is to recognize when he's literally throwing
something in my face, like this, this, this.
So this came from such a roundabout way. I'm
like, that's interesting. So I started to read
this. And this is where I get into as a kid.
When I was a kid, I had a lot of knives. Did
you have a knife? Do you have knives? Oh, yes.
I had Swiss Army knives. That was kind of the,
you know, that was the ultimate, and that's what
I asked for Christmas. I want a Swiss Army knife.
Buck knives. Buck knives. Buck was a big deal.
Yeah, I had hunting knives. I had, like, bayonets.
Crazy when you think about it, you know. Right.
Well, but is it really? And as I'm thinking about
this, of course, you know, the Swiss Army knife
in particular had a saw, it had two different
blades, it had scissors. Mine also had tweezers
and a toothpick. Exactly. You know, I think I
don't know if I had the magnifying glass, but
you know, because you can get them, they were
like that thing. It wouldn't fit in your pocket
if you did that. But of course, you know, it
was a great tool to do things with. I was thinking
about it. I've cut myself or hurt myself with
a knife many times. Everybody can agree. Scar
there, still there. Scar here, still there. I
did that with a guitar string. I cut myself.
Guitar strings are lethal, by the way. When they
go, they go. So I'm thinking, yeah, a Swiss Army
knife. That was the tool that we had. Great tool,
could do a lot of good things. I mean, I literally
at one point, this is how dumb I was. It was
winter and someone had crashed into a light pole
and it had broken and fallen over and right there
exposed with all these cool electronics. I'm
like, I want that. Now, luckily it was cold.
So I had my gloves on. I'm like, I want this
unit. And so I start with the Swiss army knife
sawing on it. And all of a sudden, huge arc and
the blade was literally melted. I can't believe
I'm still alive after so many things I've done.
But if you look at it today, we have a great
tool called the phone. And you can also get cut
by this great tool. This is the analogy I was
making. If you or I back in the day, if we touched
our knife or used it 5 ,000 times a day, the
likelihood we hurt ourselves at least twice a
day is pretty high. And that is the average amount
of time a Western person touches their phone
on a daily, daily basis. 5 ,000 times you're
touching your phone. Spine -binding. Touching
your phone. Mind -binding. No wonder I've got
tendonitis right here. You know what I mean?
I probably have screened tendonitis on my elbow.
So kind of the... Wow. If you carry this analogy
of how the phone is a knife and it's cutting
you, something happened this week which we don't
have to get into, but we had breaking, breaking,
the terrorists were going to blow up five buildings
in Los Angeles, breaking, breaking, breaking,
breaking. At first I'm like, okay, I know what
this is. And I was kind of right because you
look at the affidavit and they had confidential
human source. They had an undercover officer.
They've been following in them for multiple weeks.
They finally get out to the desert and they start
trying to put together pipe bombs by making their
own. These are like nut jobs. These are ideological
nut jobs, not sophisticated bomb builders. So
they're They're, you know, they're using, you
know, they're grinding up gunpowder, you know,
grinding up fertilizer and all kinds of different
stuff. They had PVC pipe, not very effective.
I mean, it will blow, but it, you know, it's
not going to, and they had no caps. So they arrested
them on a technicality of not registering explosives
or something like that. Now that's okay. And,
and they should be doing that. I think they could
have. knocked on their door earlier and said,
yo, son, what are you doing? What's going on?
How do we stop this? So instead, they they spy
on them everything until they've done something
they can catch them on. The thing that bothers
me, though, is that we look what we did. We did
this because what it really did is made us all
afraid. It just scared us all of. You know, and
of course, it fits into all these narratives,
the Red Green Alliance, ISIS, you know, 9 -11
style attacks, Islam, all of this stuff. Whereas
I honestly, as a citizen, at this point would
rather prefer, do your job. Thank you very much.
You don't need to do a press conference about
what they were doing because you are literally
scaring people, which of course is what is used
continuously to program our minds. And that's
where Dr. McFillen comes in. McFillen? Yes, McFillen.
Yeah, McFillen. And he, over 20 years of being
a clinical psychologist, he noticed that people
have certain scripts. Some are, were born with
their natural scripts, such as, you know, flight
based upon fear. And, you know, our natural state
from the early days is, I think there's a tiger
there. Should I run away or stay? Well, you're
always going to choose run away because there's
really no penalty for running away if it wasn't
true. But if it was true, you didn't run away.
You get eaten and you're dead. That's that's
way down at the brainstem level of very primal.
So he wrote these articles and it was kind of
based upon a book which I'm familiar with. And
this is how the Lord works, man. He brings stuff
to me. And I'm going to be looking at my screen
a lot, Jimmy, because I tried to. break down
a whole Sabbath day into a short podcast. And
the book is by a guy named Napoleon Hill, and
he wrote an interview with the devil, outwitting
the devil. Have you ever heard of this book?
I've heard of Napoleon Hill. Well, Napoleon Hill
was famous because he wrote Think and Grow Rich.
Right, yeah. Now, do you know when he wrote that
book? 1939. But in 1938, he wrote this book,
which did not get published until 73 years later.
Now, at the time, this is newspapers, radio,
movies, no television yet, no internet, obviously.
So his wife refused to let him publish it. She
said it was too dangerous. And I have read this
book. It's a three hour audio book. You can get
on YouTube. It's well worth it. So he didn't
publish it. When he died in 1970, the manuscript,
of course, she had the manuscript. She said,
no, we're not going to publish it. When she died
in 84, her nephew, who was the president of the
Napoleon Hill Foundation, he was like, OK, we
should publish that. And it came out in 2011.
but the words are still valid today. And because
there's an audiobook, and this is what's interesting,
MoFax, when I had MoFax with Adam Curry, we did
100 episodes, he had actually pulled some clips
from this audiobook, and of course I'd forgotten
about it, but then I'm like, wow, all right,
Lord, so you've already clipped it for me, I
can just bring this into the studio, this is
good. So again, 2011. this is when this came
out not it sounds like a good time to bring it
out because smartphones were ubiquitous social
media is exploding the architecture of capture
was well in place and this is kind of where this
took me today so we can understand how we are
being manipulated what is happening and of course
you and i know that there is truly only one manipulator
behind the scenes and that's the enemy that's
the devil so i'm going to play a couple of these
clips and then we'll go into the articles now
The premise behind this is that just like God,
when asked, the devil can't lie. He can say,
you really don't want me to answer that question,
but he can't lie, which is an interesting… And
by the way, this guy, remember, all believers
in this, but it wasn't apparent to me initially
because I wasn't a believer, so I didn't see
all this stuff. And he has to address him as
Your Majesty. That was the only… the only rule
the devil had. So here's a little introduction
what the devil says he is. I consist of negative
energy, and I live in the minds of people who
fear me. So you have the universe divided up
with God. Is that your claim? Not my claim, but
the actual fact. Before this interview is finished,
you will understand why my claim is true. You
will also understand why it has to be true. Or
there could be no world such as yours, no earthbound
creatures such as you. I am no beast with a forked
tongue and a spiked tail. But you do control
the minds of 98 out of every 100 people you said
so yourself Who causes all the misery in this
98 %? Devil controlled world if you do not I
have not said that I do not cause all the misery
of the world on the other hand I boast of it
It is my business to represent the negative side
of everything including the thoughts of you earthbound
people How else could I control people my opposition
controls positive thought I control negative
thought How do you gain control of the minds
of people? Oh, that is easy. I merely move in
and occupy the unused space of the human brain.
I sow the seeds of negative thought in the minds
of people so I can occupy and control the space.
Sound accurate to you, Pascal. Wow. I love the
voice. Yeah, it's very dramatic. It's very good.
Yeah. Excellent. So, you know, 98 % sounds right.
I mean, probably not 98 % all the time. But when
you think about it, man, it's pretty deep. So
now the crux here, what tricks and devices does
the devil use to control our thoughts? Because
it's all about this, ultimately. And of course,
I did some work, we'll talk about it later on,
on finding scripture that relates to all of these
things. Yeah, oh, I got to bring it back, brother.
I'm a newbie. But I'm working on it. I'm really,
I'm seeing the scripture appear before my face
as I heard this interview. And as these seeds
germinate and grow, through use I control the
space they occupy. The six most effective fears
are the fear of poverty, criticism, ill health,
loss of love, old age, and death. Which of these
six fears serves you most often, Your Majesty?
The first and the last, poverty and death. At
one time or another during life I tighten my
grip on all people through one or both of these.
I plant these fears in the minds of people so
deftly that they believe them to be their own
creation. I accomplish this end by making people
believe I am standing just beyond the entrance
gate of the next life, waiting to claim them
after death for eternal punishment. Of course,
I cannot punish anyone, except in that person's
own mind, through some form of fear. But fear
of the thing which does not exist is just as
useful to me as fear of that which does exist.
All forms of fear extend the space I occupy in
the human mind. This kind of made me think. This
is really good. Yes. Go ahead. Two things. Well,
I've got scripture, but you probably already
pulled this scripture, so I'm going to let you
do your scripture first, but I want to show you
something. Sometimes in my downtime, I love,
I'm fascinated with neuroscience and its alignment
with scripture. So much of what neuroscience
is beginning to discover. Wow, you can go right
back to the word. Mm -hmm So listen to this from
neuroscience reveals that complaint or negativity
is the devil just said are your majesty easy
to be called Neuroscience reveals that complaint
rewires your brain like trauma, dude You are
you already jumped three steps ahead. That's
perfect. Just read this yesterday. I was riveted
to this because As a pastor, I deal with positives
and negatives. All the time. And I'm constantly
trying to tell people, live up in a down world.
So look what it says. I love it. It says, just
60 seconds of negative talk floods your body
with cortisol, shrinks the hippocampus and strengthens
fear pathways. Let's uncover why venting isn't
harmless. It's disguised brain damage. Wow. Okay.
Before we move on, because that's coming right
after this next clip and then I'll dive into
some of the neuroscience of it. Now Satan talks
about the two principles that he uses to control
people. My greatest weapon over human beings
consists of two secret principles by which I
gain control of their minds. I will speak first
of the principle of habit. through which I silently
enter the minds of people. By operating through
this principle, I establish, I wish I could avoid
using this word, the habit of drifting. When
a person begins to drift on any subject, he is
headed straight toward the gates of what you
earthbound call hell. Describe all the ways in
which you induce people to drift. Define the
word and tell us exactly what you mean by it.
I can best define the word drift by saying that
people who think for themselves never drift,
while those who do little or know thinking for
themselves are drifters. A drifter is one who
permits himself to be influenced and controlled
by circumstances outside of his own mind. He
would rather let me occupy his mind and do his
thinking than go to the trouble of thinking for
himself. A drifter is one who accepts whatever
life throws in his way without making a protest
or putting up a fight. He doesn't know what he
wants from life and spends all of his time getting
just that. A drifter has lots of opinions, but
they are not his own. Most of them are supplied
by me. A drifter is one who is too lazy mentally
to use his own brain. That is the reason I can
take control of people's thinking and plant my
own ideas in their minds. So I'm not even going
to go down the chat GPT route on that one, but
you know, you understand that concept. Absolutely.
The doctor in his articles wrote about this drifting,
and that's kind of how I, even though he didn't
write much about the book, that's why I went
back like, oh, drifting is actually in that book.
Interesting, okay. And he calls it the agentic
state. And the agentic state concept is based
upon the Milgram experiments. The Milgram experiments,
you might have seen this somewhere old YouTube
video. where you have someone, a volunteer off
the street, answered an ad in the paper. They
sit down behind a console with levers. And on
the other side of a darkened window, there apparently
is someone connected to electrodes. And there's
a guy in a lab coat, and he says, OK, zap him
with 100 volts. And although the volunteer cannot
see, the other person, they can hear him crying
out of pain or as the voltage increases. And
obviously, it's a setup. There's no current being
sent to this guy. But what they discovered is
that if there's a person in a lab coat, 90 %
of the people will actually administer something
that said deadly voltage because the person in
the lab coat at a laboratory said to do it. Wow.
The minute you turn the guy in the lab coat into
a guy in a sweater, only 10 % do it. The minute
you take it out of a laboratory and do it in
a strip mall, only 10%. So, the default state,
or the agentic state, is a psychological condition
when an individual surrenders autonomy to perceived
legitimate authority. Now, they replicated these
experiments many times over the years. In 2009,
they did it. results were virtually identical
to the 1960s. In 2010, another Milgram study
was done, and 81 % of compliance came when the
authority was a TV host. Wow. Now think about
COVID. Think about people being isolated, so
you no longer have a group, you no longer have
a social network next to you that you can actually
communicate with. So the modern application of
control works with authority, influencers, these
of course are the new TV hosts, and these mechanisms
enable complete control. And of course, you're
basing it all on fear. And so when 9 -11 happened,
everybody was like, yeah, we want the Patriot
Act, without even knowing that it was the most
unpatriotic thing in the world. So our good doctor
here talks about how our brain works. And he
says, you have the neocortex. It's the newest
part of our brain. I'll just say evolution, although
I don't mean evolution, but that's the part that's
been trained the most through inputs, responsible
for language and logic. This is very ineffective
for influence. The limbic system, emotion and
memory, but the brain stem, that's the ancient
command center. And that's where we have these
scripts. And when I say script, it's like a computer
script. or almost like a prompt. You can see
it as a chat GPT prompt for context for people.
When you write a script, you program something,
the computer does something based upon that script.
So built into our system, and I'm glad God did
it because otherwise we'd be eaten, is your fight,
flight, or freeze. But then we have life scripts.
And these life scripts are things that are programmed.
So by the way, the core scripts, you can't change
those. Right. Those are unchangeable. So neuroplasticity,
that's going to be for these things that you're
about to talk about. Things that can be changed
or altered. Well, and you literally write these
scripts in your brain. You suppress anger to
avoid punishment. That's a childhood script.
Overperform to earn love. Yep. major childhood
script avoiding conflict to prevent abandonment.
Now these scripts don't update automatically
over time, but they are updatable or at least
you can control when they're triggered. So when
we use our phones, these things, yeah, they're
tracking what we're doing. What they're really
doing is they're measuring when these brain stem
scripts are triggered and they do that just by
watching what you pause on, on a scroll, of course
what you play, what you interact with. They don't
really even care who you are. They care about
triggering these scripts. And that, and as I,
you know, I'm not going to show all my research
here, but there are real brain scientists behind
algorithms. And it's not just we want to give
you an ad. It is literally we want to trigger
these scripts. But governments do this, corporations
do this. The science of propaganda, the science
of marketing, all of that. Exactly. Every single
thing that we touch in life is some, and that's
back to the FBI. And it may be even unwitting
on their behalf, but not on the enemy's behalf.
He's doing this. He's like, yeah, go out, do
a big press conference, make everybody afraid.
And of course, in comes haughtiness and pride
of, you know, I'm proud of our FBI, our men and
women. Why don't you just do your job and not
tell anybody? They don't do that. So these, if
you realize what these scripts are doing, then
you can, with scripture, you can start to think
about them and combat them. So this is where
I spent the most of my time. So the mechanism,
algorithms feed apocalyptic content to generate
terror. But here's the thing, fear is not just
an emotion, it's a creative force. When you obsess
over these things, you are actually, just like
you said before we got into those clips, you
are actually creating more of it. for yourself,
for others, so when you're reposting, you're
sharing the chem trail picture, you're talking
about the elites, the Davos, you're actually
helping this negative energy build in your own
mind and in the minds of others. So, Job 325,
what I always feared has happened to me, what
I dreaded has come true. Wow, that's exactly
exactly it exactly so that manifesting it This
is again. It's and I think that with social media
People who are driven by negative evil forces
They have they figured out that it's better to
just show everybody what I'm doing Because then
everybody will be talking about it and it can
literally manifest it the great reset You'll
own nothing and you will be happy. How many times
you and I not repeated that? Exactly. We're actually
kind of helping their agenda by doing that. Proverbs
27 19. So I'm sorry. So this is the feedback
loop. You know, what you damn damns you back.
Fascination with the enemy's plan creates a reality
tunnel to where your brain seeks evidence. to
confirm this is all happening. That's what they
call confirmation bias. Proverbs 27, 19, as a
face is reflected in water, so the heart reflects
the real person. Proverbs 4, 23, guard your heart
above all else, for it determines the course
of your life. Man when I another translation
says for out of it flow the well springs of life.
Yeah. Yeah Garbagey garbage garbage out you go
So when terror hijacks the nervous systems, this
is where we willingly trade freedom for safety
Wow, and that's that's happened Throughout history
every single time over and over Hebrews 2 15
and set free all who have lived their lives as
slaves to the fear of dying which is exactly
what Satan was talking about in that interview.
And aren't those the two most powerful in today's
society? I'm going to be poor or I'm going to
die. And I was lucky in 1990, I got rid of the
poor part without my knowledge of God doing that
for me. and then the fear of death. Well, now
I know where I'm going. I mean, that's the easiest
for believers. Poverty still is there. Galatians
5 .1. So Christ has truly set us free. Now make
sure that you stay free and don't get tied up
again in slavery to the law. This goes right
back to all the inputs that we're getting. And
man, it's amazing how with the 15 minute city,
all of this stuff is happening. We are, we are
siopping ourselves. The enemy is so smart. Mental
health, you know, the therapy culture, telling
people that, you know, you're broken or you're
chemically in balance. It really takes away your
divine creative authority to heal yourself, to
have the Lord Jesus to heal yourself. It pathologizes
spiritual emergence to keep consciousness locked
in low frequency. Timothy 1, 7, for God has not
given us a spirit of fear and timidity, but of
power, love, and self -discipline. This is the
one that hits me the most. Like, we don't have
to be afraid of this stuff. He has given us this
power. Romans 12, 2. One of my favorites don't
copy this is NLT don't copy the behavior and
customs of this world But let God transform you
into a new person by changing the way you think
So the solution is of course the creative energy
of love which above all is the number one most
important one 1 John 4 18 such love has no fear
because perfect love expels all fear Matthew
5 14 You are the light of the world, like a city
on a hilltop that cannot be hidden. So when I
put all this together, it's obvious what we have
to do. We have to guard our hearts. We have to
guard our minds. We have to zig where everyone's
doing a zag. And the big, I think one fear that
was not known at that time is the fear of missing
out. That's a real fear. People feel like they're
disconnected from the conversation. Whereas as
believers, we can just have conversations about
the Word and God and, you know, and Jesus and
all. We can have conversations, but the fear
of missing out is just a huge one. So, 2 Corinthians
6 17 has some advice for us. Therefore, Come
out from among unbelievers and separate yourselves
from them, says the Lord. Do not touch their
filthy things." So now my phone feels pretty
dirty right now. 1 Thessalonians 4 11, make it
your goal to live a quiet life, minding your
own business and working with your hands. Now,
this is not easy for everybody, but for young
people listening, there's going to be so many
more opportunities in this world for you to work
with your hands. Which America, historically,
we've been farmers, we've been ranchers, we've
been physical builders of things. There are going
to be millions of jobs for people who have trained
to do things with their hands. Apprenticeships
.gov, there's a million apprenticeships being
created. It doesn't seem to me that college is
a great way to go at the moment. It seems like
you're not really going to go down a path of
anything except poverty, which, well, there it
is. You're locked in. You can't even go bankrupt
and get rid of that loan. And your spiritual
bankruptcy. Moral bankruptcy. So now I'm looking
at prayer as technology. It is literal programming.
You can write computer scripts for yourself.
Prayer as technology. aligns with the source,
bypassing the algorithms and the experts. Matthew
18 .20, this is an important one, for where two
or three gather together as my followers, I am
among them, being with other people. Like you
and I, when we have these catch -ups on Wednesday,
man, I just feel good. I just feel good, no matter
what we're talking about. Matthew 9 .20, because
of your faith, it will happen. and Philippians
4 6 don't worry about anything instead pray about
everything tell God what you need and thank him
for all he has done this can help you replace
anxiety with spiritual creation with love that
will get you out of these things every comment
every like every every retweet every boost you
are literally empowering the enemy to hurt you
you are cutting yourself with the modern day
swiss army knife Amen. What do I say to that,
brother? That was a full -on discourse. God brought
this to me. So true. What's weird, you and I
have not talked about this, but I've been tracking
down this same line. I'm pulling up stuff that
I've got sitting here. Your brain was never designed
to replay fears on a loop. That's not wisdom.
That's a stress nervous system. I love neuroscience.
because it's just biblical. It is. It is at its
core. I've been reading things on the power of
music and prayer. Both of them are powerful alone.
You put them together. Yep. And I love what one
commentator said. He said, there's a reason why
when you go to church and you're singing and
you're praying and you're connecting with other
human beings, you're worshiping something bigger
than you, someone. that you walk out different
straight up and it's like it's it's every dopamine
dump times a thousand and that's why you leave
going i feel safe again i feel free again i feel
and it dawned on me when i was reading this why
i love church so much i'm a i've always said
i'm a church nerd i'm a church junkie I love
being with God's people because it's what we
were just talking about. Iron sharpens iron.
Scripture says it straight up. So one man sharpens
accountants of another. So there's something
that says, do not neglect the assembling of yourselves
together in the book of Hebrews. So there's all
these clues in the scripture that's saying everything
neuroscience is starting to discover. But the
Christians that are involved in neuroscience,
I really like this one doctor. Her name is...
Dr. April Joy, and she's got like 15 letters
behind her name. But she is so scriptural and
on fire, but she brings neuroscience to show
how it's working in your body, the physical side
of it. Of prayer and worship. Yes, prayer, worship,
scripture. There's a lot in neuroscience right
now about rewriting scripts. You just said it.
But scripture is one of the best ways to rewrite
the scripts of your life. You literally just
copy the script into your brain. That's it. You
speak it. You declare it. It's what we've been
saying for decades. You load it into your memory
banks. It literally rewires your brain. And I'm
big on positive and negative. I've always said
I have a... I'm allergic to negativity. When
I get around negative people, I feel a life sucking
out of my body. It's like stick of siphon in
my heart. And I can't stay in those environments
very long. And I'm not just some happy -go -lucky
rose -colored glasses guy. It's just, for whatever
reason, I knew it intuitively. I knew it spiritually
inside, even if I didn't know it consciously
or cognitively, that when I'm around positive
people, that are, I always say, speak life, leak
life, you know, be a leaky bucket. It all goes
back to what we're talking about. It does. And
I learned it because the Lord took me down these
paths. And also because I was raised around some
negative people. Yeah. And I just had this aversion
to people in my family that were negative. And
I just pushed back. And I don't even know why.
It was something inside of me said, get away
from that. Yeah. So there's a lot of interesting
study and science. Which is also a positive script
that you created, but you are fortunate to have
that script created and you can build on that
and refine it and make it even better. I have
to trust that the Lord did that for me even pre
-Jesus. He was doing things deep in me, a deep
work, pre -Christ, pre -salvation, where he was
already working things out. Do you think he had
a plan for you, Pastor Jimmy Pruitt? He may have.
This is what I was telling our staff and staff
meeting. I said, don't think for a second that
God didn't see any of this stuff coming. Everybody's
screaming, oh no, Islam's taking over, oh no,
Richardson, Texas, Sharia law on the streets.
I said, we act like God vacated the planet, like
he doesn't see what's happening, like he's not
in control or something. And I kind of just brought
it pretty strong to my staff saying, guys, we
can't get worked up about this stuff. Don't let
narratives spin you out. Or if you keep repeating
them, you are only enhancing the power of the
negative your brain doesn't determine whether
this is positive or negative it just responds
to whatever stimulus you give it that's right
that part most of your brain is not emotional
there's only one little section of your brain
that that registers emotion morality darkness
all that but most of your brain it's just an
organ and it's simply responding to the stimulus
that you give it and if we and I was talking
to Tina about this last night, and I said, if
you ever notice, when you say something to Pastor
Jimmy, there is always one beat longer than anyone
else I know before he responds. And I know because
you're running processing. You run processing,
and I just guessed. I said, he's probably thinking,
all right, what would Jesus respond? But you
may not be thinking that consciously, but you've
trained your brain, but it's very noticeable.
I mean, when you ended your discourse and dropped
the mic, I waited until the mic hit the ground
because I was like, I'm going to pause right
here because it may be an awkward pause on air,
but I'm like, no, no, no, I can't just say something.
Because we've cheapened words through... Social
media and clicking and everybody's a top writer
now and everybody's a podcaster and all influencer
Because we've lost the value of words good one.
And so this is why I love reading the dead guys
all chambers. Yes Every word drips with weight.
You can't just read a ton of his stuff. You have
to like take your time You got to take time just
one page per day one page one sentence. Sometimes
you have like oh I need to And I'll clip a lot.
I send those out all the time. He sent one this
morning, actually, about Christmas. But I'm constantly
trying to read those who wrote with more weight,
with more gravity, because words are so cheap
now. Well, and that's part of what the Sabbath
is for me. It's like, I need to look. It doesn't
even matter. I want to read something. I don't
want to listen even. Although I will, but I want
to read something that is thoughtful and long
and has is not a response or a promotion or anything.
But it's hard, you know, to quiet your mind.
It is. And you have to quiet your your your Swiss
army knife. You got to put that thing away. And
man, what happens then that really truly feels
like this is this is the state I need to be in.
I need to be. thinking, aware, aware that the
Holy Spirit is giving me ideas, that God is talking
to me. I see you, enemy. No, no, no. Get thee
behind me, Satan. Do you talk to yourself out
loud? Yes, I do. I do too. On my walks, my prayer
walk every morning, out loud. In my office, I'm
constantly saying, saying, saying, that's good.
You're going to be okay. Don't let that bother
you. I mean, literally just, it just comes out
and I've gotten more natural with that over time.
And then I read about self -talk in one of these
neuroscience journals, and they're saying that
that trains your brain. You rewrite your neural
pathways by talking to yourself. It's also the
enemy can't read your mind. You have to tell
him out loud otherwise he won't go away. I have
no trouble telling him out loud. That's something
I learned a couple of months ago. Oh, I got to
say it out loud. Okay, I can do that. That's
right. That's where the force is. You know, Jesus
didn't think about stealing the storm. He didn't
think about Raisin Lazarus. He said, be quiet.
He said it. And when he cast out demons, he didn't
think about it. He said it. Good point. There's
power in that. Good point. So I love what you're
saying, Adam. I mean, gosh, you just dumped a
massive dump truckload of information and content.
But it's something we need to, as blood bought
believers, we don't. check our brains at the
door. We don't check our intellect. We don't
check our ability to reason. We don't check our
questions. We need to be okay. So right now,
you've probably seen this, Kirk Cameron's getting
slaughtered in social media, all because he and
his son had a conversation about hell. on their
podcast. His son asked him a question. Now, you
won't read this from everybody else. Well, of
course not. They'll put an 18 second clip out
there and now we're vilifying Kirk Cameron like
he's the Antichrist. He's lost his faith. I haven't
seen, I saw like some promotional YouTube thing
like, oh, Kirk Cameron. So I actually don't know
exactly what it is. So I appreciate you telling
me. Well, I watched, he did a rebuttal to it
online this morning and I watched part of it.
I'd catch the whole of it. I want to watch the
rest of it. But he's saying, He's saying he's
so shocked that people got all bent out of shape
about this. He said all of his old mentors are
calling him, checking on him. So what exactly
did he say that was so controversial? His son
asked the question. He said, his son said, Dad,
you know, didn't say Kirk, Dad, help me understand
what the Bible says about hell, because I'm having
a hard time believing that a merciful, loving
God would banish someone to hell for not believing
in them, and then they'd be in torment for eternity.
Is that what the Bible says? And so, Kirk and
him did a deep dive right there in their podcast,
going through their Bibles, and finding scriptures
that either supported it, hinted toward it, or
said something different. Well, maybe, because
it does talk about destruction. And so Kurt,
they were just postulating out loud. Yeah, they're
just, they're going through it. They're thinking
through it. They're processing out loud and people
are just like taking notes going, oh my gosh,
Kurt Cameron just said that there may not be
eternal torment for, you know, oh, he doesn't
even believe in hell. I mean, people just had
to run away with this. So there wasn't even really
a conclusion. They're just going through it.
Oh, okay. I can't wait to listen to the rest
of it. But here's what I realized. I did the
same thing. I started going, Annette, did you
hear this about Kirk Cameron? And she goes, I
did. I just read something about him. Kirk Cameron
said that he looked at the stats. He said, there's
more views on people who were talking about him
saying it than actually listen to the show. He
said, that is telling to me. And he said, I'm
so disappointed in the church and Christians
who came out and slaughtered me, but didn't listen
to the whole program because there's context.
So he was kind of rebuking people for saying,
you know, to say you didn't even listen to the
show. You heard a clip. And you made a determination
about my faith. And I'll bet if you listen to
the clip, they're exactly what we've been talking
about. It is. It hits you right away, right in
your fear factor. He said it straight up. He
said, people are just trying to get more likes.
They're trying to get more bumps. And he said...
Which is idolatry, which is haughtiness, pride,
darkness, darkness. Yes. I have found my... And
honestly, I rarely... I'm hardly... I don't know
a lot of what's going on right now. I'm hearing
things kind of after the fact, like I'm not getting
the breaking news version of it. I'm getting
it like three days later because I'm just decided
not to swim in that cesspool. You know, we had
a growing up, we lived out in the country and
so I can wear boots legitimately. So I'm an imposter.
No, I was thinking of somebody else, but I won't
say their name. Somebody I love. I've just had
a funny thought. Random. So, we had a septic
tank and I remember my parents saying, don't
ride your horse over the septic tank. Don't ride
your motorcycle. I mean, I'm always like, looking
for a jump. So, every time I take my horse around
that side of the house, I tell my brother, he's
on his horse. I said, Hey, hey, don't go over
it. Cause what had happened has started to sink.
Yeah, of course. And then some bad, really bad
stuff. Crap can happen. Crap can happen. That's
exactly right. You said it nicely. And so I remember
it kept getting like over the years that we live
there, it got worse and worse. And my dad finally
said, man, we got to do something about this.
So they brought a guy out. He comes out with
a big, you know, front end loader. He digs it
up. Oh my gosh. So when I talk about swimming
in the cesspool, I think about a septic tank
and how gross and sick it is. Because when they
open that thing up, because they put a new tank
in. It's a visualization. Unbelievable. Unbelievable
to think that that's just a few feet from the
house. You know, all that nastiness. Well, think
about what's not just a few feet from your house,
but in your hand. in your pocket, everywhere
you go. I mean, the visceral reaction all of
us have, and I've had it when I've left my phone
somewhere, panic. Like, oh my gosh. I don't have
my phone. Am I panicking because I'm worried
about somebody taking my phone or am I panicking
because this thing that has become a habit is
now not in my hand? You know, that's interesting
because we've been talking about texting. And
inherently, the whole idea of texting is an asynchronous
communication. And you and I have that down pretty
well. Yeah, yeah. There's not a lot of emotion
involved here. But also, I'm not going to...
You're not upset if I don't respond right away.
But if I don't respond by two in the afternoon,
you're going to see if I'm alive. Are you okay?
Are you okay? That's it. But people have gotten
into this habit of, I got to respond. I got to
respond. Someone text me. Oh, I'm bad about that.
And that tells me every day, you don't have to
answer that. I'm going, I think I do. It gets
to the point where my daughter, who will be showing
up tomorrow for Christmas, I'm very excited.
Now, she also lives seven hours away time zone
wise, and she has a demanding job when she's
on the job. She's not, but also she is, she's
35 and she's figured it out better than me and
most of my friends and peers. She's like, no
dad, no. I had to step away from it. So she might
not respond for a day, for a day. I'd be like,
you... When your daughter lives halfway across
the world, it's a little disturbing. But you
know, she actually helps me calm down. I know
she's alive because it says online or it says
last online three hours. So she was alive three
hours ago. But all of this is the enemy. The
enemy is throwing all of this into my head with
a perfect tool. I want to play this last clip
from the interview with the devil. Here's where
the devil gives us 10 steps. He's actually telling
us how to protect ourselves against drifting.
So getting into that agentic state that we're
talking about. That's it, everybody. We're done.
We're out of here. Time for lunch. Wrong button.
Protection against drifting lies within easy
reach of every human being who has a normal body
and a sound mind. The self -defense can be applied
through these simple methods. One. Do your own
thinking on all occasions. The fact that human
beings are given complete control over nothing
save the power to think their own thoughts is
laden with significance. 2. Decide definitely
what you want from life, then create a plan for
attaining it and be willing to sacrifice everything
else if necessary rather than accept permanent
defeat. 3. Analyze temporary defeat no matter
of what nature or cause, and extract from it
the seed of an equivalent advantage. 4. Be willing
to render useful service equivalent to the value
of all material things you demand of life, and
render the service first. 5. Recognize that your
brain is a receiving set that can be attuned
to receive Communications from the universal
storehouse of infinite intelligence to help you
transmute your desires into their physical equivalent
reminder 1938 okay 1938 the days of radio. Yeah
Six theater recognize that your greatest asset
is time The only thing except the power of thought
which you own outright and the one thing which
can be shaped into whatever material things you
want Budget your time so none of it is wasted
seven Recognize the truth that fear generally
is a filler with which the devil occupies the
unused portion of your mind That it is only a
state of mind which you can control by filling
the space It occupies with faith in your ability
to make life provide you with whatever you demand
of it eight When you pray do not beg Demand what
you want and insist upon getting exactly that
with no substitutes. Dude, just got to stop for
a second. That just blew me away. The devil is
saying when you pray you got to demand it, man.
Reminds me of the message translation. It's like,
uh, Eugene Peterson. Yeah. It's got that tone
to it. When did Peterson write it? I mean, this
is way pre -Peterson. Yeah, that's fantastic.
10, 15 years ago. Two more to go. Nine. Recognize
that life is a cruel taskmaster and that either
you master it or it masters you. There is no
halfway or compromising point. Never accept from
life anything you do not want. If that which
you do not want is temporarily forced upon you,
you can refuse in your own mind to accept it
and it will make way for the thing you do want.
Ten. Lastly, remember that your dominating thoughts
attract through a definite law of nature. by
the shortest and most convenient route, their
physical counterpart. Be careful what thoughts
you dwell upon. Wow. I'm looking at what you
did C .S. Lewis publish, Screwtape Letters. Have
you ever read that book? Of course. When did
he write that? I'm looking. I'm curious because
what year was this? 1938. It's got to be around
the same time, I'm thinking. When was 1942 so
39 42 mm -hmm interesting that these All right,
right before World War two things are might might
just want to mention that things were ramping
up all over Europe Yeah, yeah fear fear -mongering
Propaganda now the wazoo. Yeah, it's happening
all over the world. The world was frozen with
fear. Yeah And here we are. Here we are again.
The world may not even be that bad, but so I'm
really going to try to be to opt out, to really
be radical. And, you know, I've brought myself
down. I still have a job where I need to understand
what's happening, but I segment that time and
and I flow it through my brain into a system
so I can get rid of it. Right. But really, once
a day, After you know scripture before screens
after I've done everything after I've We've texted
after the bridge men's group daily devotional
comes in so I've had I got all my stuff and Anything
extra I want to I only go to to news .google
.com Just to see what the headlines are right
which I find a lot more calming Than going on
to social media and knowing their news from that
no doubt And they're also a little behind, you
know, so and that's it. And I really so I know
what everyone else will be yapping about. I already
know it. I already know what you're going to
be talking about. I don't care. Now, the trick
is, you know, Bondi Beach, 15 people killed.
OK, the trick is not to because even when you
go in and and and are. Commenting like this is
horrible. You're just giving Satan more creative
energy That's that's the big takeaway like you're
just and and like like the devil said What are
you spending your time on? Well, we know that
on average people spend about seven hours a day
on their phone on average That's a lot of adjusting
this steady diet of negativity darkness fear
Fear. I wrote this down. Fear is a space filler.
That's what the devil said. Fear fills space.
You're talking about not wasting time. And also,
everything you see is fake. And I think this
affects women. Already, it was really bad with
fashion magazines in the 80s and 90s. But now
every video is filtered. Everybody looks better
than you. And a life is better than yours, which
plays on the poverty mindset, on the fear of
missing out, on making you feel low and down
and no good. Even if it's a really positive story,
I don't have that positivity. I'm not doing that.
It's just not good. So the phone is the Swiss
Army knife. It's a great tool, but be careful
how you handle it and how many times you handle
it to reduce the amount of cuts, missing fingers
and exploding lampposts that you encounter in
your daily life. And the thing is, you and I
have really reduced a lot of our scrolling time.
I feel a lot better. Me too, brother. And I don't
feel like I'm out of touch. So true. So true.
The scripture before screens thing, now it's
worked into my daily life. So I don't even think
about it. I used to just literally, intuitively,
automatically reach for my laptop. I mean, it
was like autopilot. And now I'm sitting there,
my dog's like, what are you doing? Where's dad?
You're just sitting there. You're not doing anything.
And literally, because I'll just take time and
I'll sit for 10 minutes. Yeah. I may or may not
put on some instrumental music just to chill,
just to wind down. And God just don't know me.
I have no tinnitus right now. Zero. Amen. Ooh,
that feels good. How about that? Well, I was
saying that, I was going, it just dawned on me
I have nothing. Because I used to say I would
fill that space with music just to sort of cancel
out the tinnitus. And when I said that, automatically
my thought went there. I'm like, wait, there's
nothing there. Whoa. That's cool. Praise God.
Couple things. Can I land this on a scriptural
note? Yeah, please. I have the field in sight.
No, no. So good. So number one, this comes from,
I love this doctor, I mentioned her a minute
ago, Dr. April Joy. She has some really fascinating
studies on this, and I'm trying to find out where
I was because it was good. Where is it? I lost
it because I jumped out to look at that. Oh,
here it is. A couple of things. This is, again,
she's in the end of the neuroscience world. She
says this, She's talking about positive things
that you could say that you need to say to yourself,
tell yourself. And if you'll say it enough, your
brain will just go with it because it's just
going to take whatever you're giving it. So give
it things like this. I can change. Cause there'll
be people listening to this that are already
feeling bad, like, Oh, I'm such a pessimist.
I'm so negative. Oh, I tend to be critical. Well,
the whole world's critical right now. We're being
trained by social media to be critical. To be
critical, yes. We started with American Idol
and all those shows where Simon Cowell, thank
you very much. Although he's flipped the script
a little bit, but man. So I can change. That's
the statement. You need to say to yourself and
tell yourself, I can change. I can change. That
was actually the big revelation for me with Anthony
Robbins. Oh, yeah. When I had those early Power
Talk tapes. The one that guy. Yeah, I've always
liked him. His reinforced statement was, you
can change how you feel in an instant. That's
all up to you. It's in your mind. It's in your
soul. It's in your being. He was doing neuroscience
before there was neuroscience. So I can change.
Your brain is designed to grow and rewire. Neuroscience
calls this neuroplasticity. Scripture calls it
renewal. So, I'm going to repeat a scripture
you shared. Be transformed by the renewing of
your mind. Romans 12 .2. I love, use the NLT
version, which is my favorite, by changing the
way you think. I love that. It's powerful. And
it's there thousands of years ago. Could you
hold it down over there, baby? No, it's just
the door. No, it's okay. Don't worry. We're good.
Hey, y 'all. Annette. Dame Annette's in the room.
She came in and opened up the door. The fans
are blowing. My hair is windblown now all of
a sudden. Save the cargo, Captain Baines. Be
sure and slam that drawer. All right, so number
two. I'm in trouble now. So number two, this
challenge has meaning. I found these to be really
good. When the brain finds meaning, stress responses
quiet and resilience increases. Purpose calms
the nervous system. And I call it getting the
why before the what. Oh, I'm not busy at all,
honey. Excuse me. Hey, man, you guys are running
an organization here. We're working. Things must
go on. We're working. Absolutely. When the brain
finds meaning, stress response is quiet. Purpose
calms the nervous system. Listen to the scripture,
Romans 5, 3, and 4. Suffering produces endurance,
and endurance produces character. A couple more.
Tell yourself this, I am not alone. I am not
alone. The brain interprets connection as safety.
Even believing support exists. Even believing
support exists lowers fear responses. And that's
so true. Like if I know you're in my court, you've
got my back, even if I don't see you all day,
just knowing that makes me feel safer. That's
what the power of community. And here's the scripture,
Hebrews 13, 5, I will never leave you nor forsake
you. That's a God's promise to us. Psalm 34,
18, the Lord is near the brokenhearted. Two more,
these are quick. These are so good. My thoughts
are not always facts. You know I've talked about
the difference between truth and facts. Truth
is truth. It's eternal, but facts are temporary
and subject to change. Thoughts are automatic
brain activity. They just happen. Wisdom begins
when we learn to examine them. In other words,
don't take everything you think as truth. It
may not be. It's not always right. Sometimes
we have stinking thinking, as Zig Ziglar used
to say. And back to Milgram, remember that when
you're getting it from someone you perceive to
be an authority, someone who says, I have the
receipts. I've done the research. I know what
I'm talking about or wears a lab coat. Be very
wary of what you're accepting as truth and this
goes back to what you've taught me a lot I mean
really question everything. Yes, I grew up in
a first responders home. So I trusted authority
He was he was a he worked for the county. He
was a county, you know Lubbock County firemen
and firefighter government Yeah, I worked in
the social work system. My paycheck came from
the state of Texas So all of us, you know, we've
had these authority pieces in our life and we
just didn't question them ever Yeah, I do now.
So we take every thought captive to obey Christ.
2 Corinthians 10 .5, I love that. Psalm 42 .5,
why are you cast down, my soul? In other words,
ask why. Why? Why? What's going on? Why am I
feeling this way? I love asking Jesus, Jesus,
is this true? Man, that one question will set
you free. You know what's funny? The number one
thing people post on X now, at Grok, is this
true? I see those add -ons now, Grok. And then
Grok will answer. And by the way, they take that
as truth. Because it's on the World Wide Web,
it's got to be true. Last one. Hope changes my
brain. I love this. The power of hope. Hope changes
my brain. Hope activates motivation pathways,
strengthens emotional regulation. It anchors
the mind toward the future. I love that. Hope
anchors the mind toward the future. Romans 15
-13, may the God of hope fill you with all joy
and peace in believing. Last one, Hebrews 6 -19.
We have this hope as an anchor for the soul.
There it is. Beautiful stuff. And I gotta say,
the Devil's Top Ten, they were spot on, man.
It was good, wasn't it? So Your Majesty had,
he nailed it, man. 1938, man. That was so powerful.
That's very cool. Yeah. Man, thanks for bringing
that today, bro. Are you kidding me? I cannot
tell you how this aligns. We haven't even been
talking about this. So you come in with all this,
I'm going, oh, you're talking about neuroscience.
Well, from 1938 -39. Do you think there's a coincidence
in the kingdom? Maybe the Holy Spirit's trying
to say something here. Get these guys in a room.
Get them on the mic. It's so weird that you came
from a completely different, from early 1900s
perspective, and I've been reading about neuroscience
through the Christian worldview, because there's
a lot of other stuff out there. we're landing
in the same spot. That's so cool. I'm kind of
blown away, brother. All right. So why don't
we land this plane? Thank you to Dr. McPhillan.
Thank you to Dr. Milgram. That's right. Retardation
on the lever. Here we go, everybody. That's it.
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