WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.259 Let's pray. Father, what a blessing to be before 00:00:04.259 --> 00:00:06.879 you today. We truly get to do this. It's our 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:09.779 honor, our joy to do so. Father, we don't see 00:00:09.779 --> 00:00:12.000 this as an imposition or something we have to 00:00:12.000 --> 00:00:13.939 do every week. It's something we get to do and 00:00:13.939 --> 00:00:16.620 we look forward to. Thank you for those who are 00:00:16.620 --> 00:00:20.199 listening and joining us and participating. Lord, 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:22.460 would you bless them today? Would you give them 00:00:22.460 --> 00:00:25.649 something they needed to hear? And father, for 00:00:25.649 --> 00:00:28.170 both Adam and myself, give us something we need 00:00:28.170 --> 00:00:31.530 to hear today. We're listening and we're dialing 00:00:31.530 --> 00:00:34.109 in and tuning into your channel because we want 00:00:34.109 --> 00:00:36.990 to hear from you today. So father, whatever we 00:00:36.990 --> 00:00:39.390 do to help somebody else, Lord, it's for your 00:00:39.390 --> 00:00:42.969 honor and your glory in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. 00:00:44.130 --> 00:00:47.570 It's Wednesday, December 3rd, 2025. We get to 00:00:47.570 --> 00:01:06.310 do this. This is episode number 13. we get to 00:01:06.310 --> 00:01:09.590 do this hey brother how you doing that sticks 00:01:09.590 --> 00:01:13.170 in your brain i know i know i'm doing great actually 00:01:13.170 --> 00:01:17.829 thanks for asking uh i love our we text mornings 00:01:17.829 --> 00:01:20.849 always sometimes during the day sometimes end 00:01:20.849 --> 00:01:25.269 of the day hey how was your day um recently we 00:01:25.269 --> 00:01:27.689 have been on such an incredible journey together 00:01:27.689 --> 00:01:31.370 and here's how the morning goes Yeah, my hearing 00:01:31.370 --> 00:01:34.069 aids are great. How about yours? How about that 00:01:34.069 --> 00:01:37.170 knee of yours? Oh, my back's doing fine. We are 00:01:37.170 --> 00:01:40.709 on a hearing aid journey, which is amazing. Old 00:01:40.709 --> 00:01:43.849 man talk. Old man talk. But I'm happy. It's a 00:01:43.849 --> 00:01:46.109 big market, man. There's a lot of people who 00:01:46.109 --> 00:01:49.370 have no idea. And I wonder if it's earbuds and 00:01:49.370 --> 00:01:52.510 stuff that might have, not us, but younger people. 00:01:52.689 --> 00:01:55.170 Younger people have a real hard time paying attention, 00:01:55.269 --> 00:01:57.790 listening to stuff. That's right. Captions are 00:01:57.790 --> 00:02:00.620 everywhere. That's true. You know, and then you 00:02:00.620 --> 00:02:03.540 get these hearing aids and just like, wow, first 00:02:03.540 --> 00:02:05.879 of all, Tina, hi, didn't know you were here. 00:02:06.540 --> 00:02:09.340 This is great. I hear you breathing from clear 00:02:09.340 --> 00:02:11.759 across the room. There's things that are shocking 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:17.120 too. Like we had the kids over and... uh, the 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:20.199 day mine came in. So I put them on new, but I've 00:02:20.199 --> 00:02:22.379 gotten super hot, right? Cause it takes a while 00:02:22.379 --> 00:02:25.979 to figure out the right levels and we're in there 00:02:25.979 --> 00:02:29.259 clanging pots and pans and cooking Thanksgiving 00:02:29.259 --> 00:02:32.340 dinner. And I'm like, ah, ah, I mean, it's like 00:02:32.340 --> 00:02:35.699 the world has came alive too much at one point 00:02:35.699 --> 00:02:37.939 or I walk out in the backyard. I hear we got 00:02:37.939 --> 00:02:40.219 a little waterfall back there and it's like roaring. 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:43.289 I'm like, Man, I need to adjust these a little 00:02:43.289 --> 00:02:45.169 bit. That's what the outside setting is for. 00:02:45.229 --> 00:02:47.849 That's the tricky part is just getting the settings, 00:02:47.870 --> 00:02:50.129 but I feel like I've got it really dialed in 00:02:50.129 --> 00:02:52.889 right now to where it feels very natural and 00:02:52.889 --> 00:02:56.129 it's not painful. There for a couple of days 00:02:56.129 --> 00:02:58.129 though, it was pretty bad, but I just had to 00:02:58.129 --> 00:03:01.030 figure it out. And there's, man, there's so much 00:03:01.030 --> 00:03:05.129 to these things like open dome, closed dome, 00:03:05.409 --> 00:03:08.250 tulip. I mean all these different ear tip pieces. 00:03:08.860 --> 00:03:11.259 What are you rocking right now? What dome are 00:03:11.259 --> 00:03:15.099 you rocking? Closed dome, man. I just put in 00:03:15.099 --> 00:03:18.099 the bigger closed dome in my right ear because 00:03:18.099 --> 00:03:20.800 I have a bigger hole on that side for some reason. 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:23.219 What is that? Mine's the opposite. My left is 00:03:23.219 --> 00:03:27.360 big. What's up with that? I actually ordered 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:29.599 one of those transmitters. I want to see if I 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:32.240 can just use them as my headphones do in the 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:35.520 podcast. I'll tell you when I decided this. Sunday, 00:03:36.060 --> 00:03:38.599 During worship, I put it on the music setting. 00:03:39.659 --> 00:03:42.939 Wow, I have never heard our worship team like 00:03:42.939 --> 00:03:46.139 that ever before. I mean, I've heard them with 00:03:46.139 --> 00:03:48.479 headphones on, you know, at home, you know, focusing 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:52.560 and listening for critique, of course, positive 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:57.129 critique. But just in the room, it was... completely 00:03:57.129 --> 00:04:01.349 new and it swept me up more than it already does. 00:04:01.370 --> 00:04:03.930 It was fantastic. Because you're hearing like 00:04:03.930 --> 00:04:05.550 you're supposed to be hearing, like you were 00:04:05.550 --> 00:04:09.229 designed to hear. There were problems with the 00:04:09.229 --> 00:04:12.430 drums, the drum miking in general several months 00:04:12.430 --> 00:04:15.949 ago, but I never heard them like this. Wow. And 00:04:15.949 --> 00:04:19.069 Wendy's Tambourine. The Tambo. The Tambo. You 00:04:19.069 --> 00:04:21.329 hear it clear. Yes. What you're getting is all 00:04:21.329 --> 00:04:24.959 that upper register. Exactly. That's what is 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:27.319 the first to go with any of our hearing. Even 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:30.459 just aging, you know, besides the damage we've 00:04:30.459 --> 00:04:33.540 done, you being in a billion concerts and wearing 00:04:33.540 --> 00:04:35.860 cans your whole life and broadcasting. I'm pretty 00:04:35.860 --> 00:04:39.899 sure it was the Metallica concert. Oh, no surprise 00:04:39.899 --> 00:04:42.600 there. The Metallica concert. I remember it hurt. 00:04:42.910 --> 00:04:47.250 Wow. Yeah. And I was next to the sound stack 00:04:47.250 --> 00:04:49.370 and everything. So I'm pretty sure that didn't 00:04:49.370 --> 00:04:51.949 help. I played guitar all my life, electric guitar, 00:04:52.089 --> 00:04:55.949 lead in bands all my life. And so typically I 00:04:55.949 --> 00:04:59.750 would have my amp or the monitor amp pointed 00:04:59.750 --> 00:05:03.490 right at you. Usually right here. And that's 00:05:03.490 --> 00:05:05.709 the one that failed or drums, you know, being 00:05:05.709 --> 00:05:10.160 right there. Live stage, you know, stage sound 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:12.600 before we went to a quiet stage. I mean, you're 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:16.060 talking 110 decibels. Oh yeah. Or 113 with what 00:05:16.060 --> 00:05:19.199 they call them. The not the try the wedges, wedges. 00:05:19.379 --> 00:05:21.319 Yeah. The wedge monitors, you know, so you could 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:25.060 quote here everybody, but it's blowing into shooting 00:05:25.060 --> 00:05:29.079 guns growing up. I mean, we didn't care. Getting 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:33.199 hit and football by by the way, so I repeat so 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:36.779 we do the The the the services live Sundays on 00:05:36.779 --> 00:05:39.360 hello Fred in the godcaster app go get the app 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:42.279 everybody cool You won't regret it and I repeat 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:44.720 it. So we have special programming Sunday night 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:48.500 seven to nine is band kind Yeah, sure. I like 00:05:48.500 --> 00:05:50.879 her. Yeah, she's from Nashville and she has all 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:54.389 the Christian music artists on It's a really 00:05:54.389 --> 00:05:57.370 good show. And then right after that, I'll repeat 00:05:57.370 --> 00:05:59.649 the service. Oh, that's cool. I was going to 00:05:59.649 --> 00:06:03.370 bed at 10 o 'clock, past 10 o 'clock, and there 00:06:03.370 --> 00:06:07.209 were like seven people listening. I'm like, if 00:06:07.209 --> 00:06:10.870 you're listening after 10 in the evening to the 00:06:10.870 --> 00:06:13.370 service, that gave me a lot of joy, brother. 00:06:13.370 --> 00:06:16.250 It really did. And of course, you can always 00:06:16.250 --> 00:06:18.790 get the repeat. It's always available. I listened. 00:06:19.069 --> 00:06:23.199 Your guitar? was spot on, brother. Spot on. Thanks, 00:06:23.259 --> 00:06:27.199 bro. It's like the record. You play it just like 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:29.740 it was recorded. I mean, with a little Pastor 00:06:29.740 --> 00:06:32.839 Jimmy flair here and there. What was that, Pastor 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:37.740 Jimmy? I love playing guitar. Every time I open 00:06:37.740 --> 00:06:41.680 my case, I feel like that kid back in Lubbock, 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:45.120 Texas, in his bedroom opening that case. I get 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:47.209 it. Of course, that case smelled like cigarette 00:06:47.209 --> 00:06:49.370 smoke because I bought an old Les Paul that had 00:06:49.370 --> 00:06:53.529 been around the block. It had the smell, right? 00:06:54.189 --> 00:06:58.069 But you know, it's very nostalgic for me. It 00:06:58.069 --> 00:07:00.509 takes me back to really good times as a young 00:07:00.509 --> 00:07:01.550 person. Well, I can see you're enjoying it. I 00:07:01.550 --> 00:07:05.129 can just watch it. And by the way, because I 00:07:05.129 --> 00:07:07.750 also listened to this on the repeat, Holly singing 00:07:07.750 --> 00:07:11.180 Amazing Grace, she's spot on, man. Whoa. And 00:07:11.180 --> 00:07:13.639 that's a tough song to do. She's good. Yeah, 00:07:13.779 --> 00:07:15.079 that's a tough song to do. We were just talking 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:17.279 about her. Annette and I both were saying how 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:20.180 she's always been good, but she was kind of shy 00:07:20.180 --> 00:07:22.279 when she first... Everybody's a little... when 00:07:22.279 --> 00:07:24.699 they first get on the team, but she's just come 00:07:24.699 --> 00:07:28.160 alive. And man, she's like the real deal. She, 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:31.100 by the way, listens to our podcast. I know. Hey, 00:07:31.339 --> 00:07:33.860 Holly, we love you. Thanks for the flag, Holly. 00:07:34.139 --> 00:07:36.120 And she's always encouraging. I love that too. 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:38.300 She's always encouraging words. It's fantastic. 00:07:39.699 --> 00:07:41.500 I wasn't bragging about her because of that. 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:47.199 No, it's true. So you did the second in a series 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:51.509 on Sunday. Delay is not denial. Did I have it 00:07:51.509 --> 00:07:56.290 correct? Is that the title? Wow, make me think. 00:07:57.029 --> 00:07:59.990 I'm second guessing myself. I think it is. Well, 00:08:00.569 --> 00:08:03.290 I can probably look it up. Delay or destiny is 00:08:03.290 --> 00:08:05.970 the question. So delay or destiny. Yes, that 00:08:05.970 --> 00:08:07.990 was the second one. One of the points from the 00:08:07.990 --> 00:08:11.069 first one was what you just said. So this was 00:08:11.069 --> 00:08:15.870 so helpful to me. I've been involved in a project. 00:08:16.790 --> 00:08:20.769 And it's a total, you know, kingdom project. 00:08:21.250 --> 00:08:24.029 And we felt a little stalled the past couple 00:08:24.029 --> 00:08:29.930 of weeks. And, you know, it's also become vacation 00:08:29.930 --> 00:08:32.289 time and just, you know, people are doing different 00:08:32.289 --> 00:08:34.610 things. But, you know, you just feel like we 00:08:34.610 --> 00:08:36.950 had momentum, we stalled and what's going on. 00:08:37.730 --> 00:08:41.389 And you had a line which I think I have it right, 00:08:41.429 --> 00:08:43.610 because I don't like to whip out my phone during 00:08:43.610 --> 00:08:47.509 service. But I think it was your posture in the 00:08:47.509 --> 00:08:49.970 delay determines your destiny in the harvest. 00:08:50.549 --> 00:08:53.990 Am I saying that right? You nailed that verbatim. 00:08:54.230 --> 00:08:57.730 Well, it meant a lot to me because I was like, 00:08:57.870 --> 00:09:03.490 wow, I've got to adjust my posture here. And 00:09:03.490 --> 00:09:07.580 unbelievably today, The door just opened. It 00:09:07.580 --> 00:09:10.740 just opened and the gates open. You're glowing. 00:09:10.860 --> 00:09:14.799 You got the high pro glow going on. It's my new 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:21.100 skin regimen. Thank you for noticing. Hey Charles, 00:09:21.940 --> 00:09:25.779 thinking of you. But I love that. Listen to that 00:09:25.779 --> 00:09:27.399 statement again because it's so important. Your 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:29.679 posture in the delay determines your harvest 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:33.539 in the destiny. It's not just that we wait. It's 00:09:33.539 --> 00:09:37.779 how we wait matters. The posture we take, the 00:09:37.779 --> 00:09:41.039 attitude that we have, the mentality in the waiting, 00:09:41.580 --> 00:09:43.519 if we're just constantly mad at God because He 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:45.919 didn't do what we asked or we're stuck in the 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:50.740 in -between or the not now, that diminishes the 00:09:50.740 --> 00:09:55.200 blessing. It just diminishes the impact of the 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:57.259 blessing when it finally comes or when the answer 00:09:57.259 --> 00:10:00.500 comes. It's just amazing. And this, you know, 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:03.259 obviously this was like put right in front of 00:10:03.259 --> 00:10:05.039 me right at the right moment. But I've noticed 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.220 other times, and I just have to remind myself, 00:10:07.779 --> 00:10:11.179 I'm not in control of this. And, you know, God 00:10:11.179 --> 00:10:13.799 had to move certain people and pieces and things 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:17.980 into place. I just trusted Him, and it happened. 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:20.980 And whenever that happens, it's just like so 00:10:20.980 --> 00:10:25.470 mind -blowing. So thank you for... I'm going 00:10:25.470 --> 00:10:27.909 to do a part three, and you're going to do part 00:10:27.909 --> 00:10:30.269 three on Sunday? So this Sunday, Pastor Brown 00:10:30.269 --> 00:10:33.710 will be in the pulpit. And the week after that, 00:10:33.809 --> 00:10:36.710 I'm going to talk about the prodigal son, the 00:10:36.710 --> 00:10:39.129 prodigal story. It's so important because we're 00:10:39.129 --> 00:10:41.850 doing a night of worship that night, and we're 00:10:41.850 --> 00:10:44.289 praying and asking God to send the prodigals 00:10:44.289 --> 00:10:47.850 home. We're calling them in, so to speak. So 00:10:47.850 --> 00:10:50.009 I'm titling it, Home for Christmas. Totally ripped 00:10:50.009 --> 00:10:52.779 that off from Hallmark. Home for… I may be going 00:10:52.779 --> 00:10:55.500 to have faith through a cheesy Hallmark graphic, 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:59.539 but that's the idea is we want to call the prodigal's 00:10:59.539 --> 00:11:01.659 home. So, I want to talk about the prodigal son's 00:11:01.659 --> 00:11:04.120 story. One of my favorite stories in the Bible 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:07.980 because we've all been the prodigal. We've all 00:11:07.980 --> 00:11:12.799 been one of those characters. This is important. 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:14.940 I hope people will go back and listen to these 00:11:14.940 --> 00:11:17.320 because I did these a little different than my 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:20.759 typical sermon. I actually had points and had 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:24.600 very clear, defined statements. And the reason 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:26.679 I did that is because I wanted people to be able 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:31.779 to go back to the proverb. That's what Russ said. 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:33.659 He said, these are like proverbs. And I said, 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:36.519 that's the point. Do you have show notes on this? 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:38.399 I got the whole thing right here. I mean, is 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:40.519 that published somewhere where people can find 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:44.919 it? You know, Faith posts those online. Oh, she 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:48.580 does? Okay. On our website. Because I went looking 00:11:48.580 --> 00:11:50.159 for him, couldn't find him right off the bat, 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:52.659 because I immediately went, I want to find which 00:11:52.659 --> 00:11:56.000 Proverbs he listed. I'll have to look again. 00:11:56.559 --> 00:11:58.580 Yeah, I can definitely. And it's funny that I 00:11:58.580 --> 00:12:01.259 call them show notes, but they are. I love it. 00:12:01.259 --> 00:12:03.220 It's show notes, man. That means something to 00:12:03.220 --> 00:12:05.120 me, really. Show notes. I know where that's coming 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:10.629 from. Yeah, it was absolutely dynamite. I'm glad 00:12:10.629 --> 00:12:12.789 you're encouraged and that it spoke to where 00:12:12.789 --> 00:12:15.149 you are in your current situation. I just sent 00:12:15.149 --> 00:12:16.889 them to you. I texted them to you. Thank you. 00:12:16.889 --> 00:12:19.070 You got them. You've got to make sure that these 00:12:19.070 --> 00:12:22.230 are on the website or whatever. They are. So 00:12:22.230 --> 00:12:24.870 I just missed them? Yeah. Okay. You have to go 00:12:24.870 --> 00:12:28.129 to the archive. you know, the archive thing, 00:12:28.250 --> 00:12:30.690 and there will be a sixth section that says notes. 00:12:30.850 --> 00:12:33.610 You just have to look for it. It's there. It's 00:12:33.610 --> 00:12:35.570 called notes. Okay. I could have found that. 00:12:35.750 --> 00:12:37.610 And I don't know if Faith got them up yet from 00:12:37.610 --> 00:12:39.389 Sunday, but she may have. Well, it's Wednesday. 00:12:39.470 --> 00:12:42.629 She may have. Anyway, thanks for bringing that 00:12:42.629 --> 00:12:44.909 up. It is important. And I feel like this has 00:12:44.909 --> 00:12:47.350 really landed with people because we all get 00:12:47.350 --> 00:12:50.750 stuck in the in -between. You know, maybe it's 00:12:50.750 --> 00:12:52.610 not a no in your prayer, but it is a not now. 00:12:52.649 --> 00:12:55.690 We get stuck in that world, that limbo land. 00:12:56.319 --> 00:12:58.820 We think, well, maybe I'm not praying right. 00:12:59.419 --> 00:13:02.139 Maybe I'm not asking according to God's will. 00:13:02.360 --> 00:13:04.720 Maybe, you know what I mean, I don't have enough 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:06.919 faith. We're also in a world where we want everything 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:08.980 immediately. I click the button, I want it to 00:13:08.980 --> 00:13:11.740 play. I hit this, I want an immediate reaction. 00:13:11.740 --> 00:13:13.519 The social media hasn't trained us for that, 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.860 has it? No, not at all. It's the dopamine dump. 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:18.419 Got some clips for that later on. I thought you 00:13:18.419 --> 00:13:20.600 might. I thought you might. I was trying to give 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:24.960 you a segue. But I love the prodigal stuff. Because 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:27.179 we have three daughters. None of them have come 00:13:27.179 --> 00:13:30.519 fully to Christ or even maybe they're halfway. 00:13:30.980 --> 00:13:35.059 They're asking for prayer. They will slip something 00:13:35.059 --> 00:13:37.600 in like, God's got a plan for me. This is very 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:41.360 encouraging. We're just not giving up. We just 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:44.320 keep praying for them morning, dinner, before 00:13:44.320 --> 00:13:49.500 bed. And it's probably people may not realize, 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:52.740 but God is really the opposite of today's world, 00:13:52.740 --> 00:13:56.519 obviously, of today's world, of the immediate 00:13:56.519 --> 00:13:59.100 24 -7 economy, I want it, send it to me now, 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:03.860 Amazon, where's my package. You wait more than 00:14:03.860 --> 00:14:07.440 anything, all the time. It's always waiting. 00:14:07.539 --> 00:14:11.620 And I guess that's where the belief and the faith 00:14:11.620 --> 00:14:16.159 comes in. It is, and so many things that God... 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:19.000 One of the metaphors God uses the most is birthing. 00:14:20.319 --> 00:14:23.159 There's a seed zone, there's a gestation period, 00:14:23.220 --> 00:14:26.039 and it's just waiting. And it's not always pleasant 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:28.860 waiting. Not always. There's morning sickness. 00:14:29.259 --> 00:14:32.059 There's all that. There's Braxton Hicks. Yeah. 00:14:32.220 --> 00:14:35.000 And then if you've got 15 things you're praying 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:37.279 for, you've got 15 pregnancies to go through. 00:14:37.539 --> 00:14:40.840 So think about it can feel like an eternity sometimes. 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:44.779 There's a statement I want to share that this 00:14:44.779 --> 00:14:49.860 might help somebody if I can... Here it is, God 00:14:49.860 --> 00:14:51.860 off, well, let me just say it this way, expect 00:14:51.860 --> 00:14:55.759 a suddenly. So a delay prepares you for defined 00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:59.039 acceleration. So here's the, but the easiest 00:14:59.039 --> 00:15:01.480 way to say it is God may take years to prepare, 00:15:01.820 --> 00:15:05.139 but minutes to perform. Cause when the suddenly 00:15:05.139 --> 00:15:08.399 comes, boom, even, even though today was like 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:12.500 a, you know, a micro example, you're believing 00:15:12.500 --> 00:15:15.360 for example for me, moving rocks, you know, moving 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:18.039 big rocks. And then all of a sudden today, Suddenly. 00:15:18.419 --> 00:15:21.419 Yes. You suddenly came. But God, but suddenly. 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:27.759 Suddenly. And God, but God. Love that. So the 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:29.940 thing about delay I think that's really important 00:15:29.940 --> 00:15:35.320 is that it deepens your dependency on God. Because 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:39.120 when we realize we can't manufacture something, 00:15:39.980 --> 00:15:42.639 we have to wait on Him. We have to trust Him. 00:15:43.319 --> 00:15:46.139 And all God wants from us at the end of the day 00:15:46.139 --> 00:15:49.600 is a relationship. We complicate this thing ridiculously. 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:52.799 But all he wants is a relay. He just wants you 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:56.159 to relate to him. Talk to him, that praying while 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:58.259 you're going, you know, practicing his presence, 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:01.860 that just praying through the day, just bringing 00:16:01.860 --> 00:16:04.240 him into everything. Just make him a part of 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:07.559 your monologue, your inner dialogue, monologue, 00:16:07.620 --> 00:16:10.919 whichever it is. If you have multiple personality 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:13.539 disorder, it can be 15. I mean, going on in there. 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:17.480 But anyway, I digress. Dissociative disorder, 00:16:17.620 --> 00:16:19.559 excuse me. That's the more politically correct 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:26.220 way to say that. But he just wants us to be more 00:16:26.220 --> 00:16:31.019 dependent. Delays, detox, self -reliance. Whoa. 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:36.740 Delays, detox, self -reliance. Is that another 00:16:36.740 --> 00:16:38.960 Jimmyism that we just threw out there? Is that 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:41.139 a new one? It is now because I made it up. It's 00:16:41.139 --> 00:16:43.259 yours, brother. It's yours. It came on the fly. 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:48.879 So anyway, it's just important that we be okay 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:51.220 with waiting. You know, a lot of the guys that 00:16:51.220 --> 00:16:57.000 are studying dopamine and, you know, dopamine 00:16:57.000 --> 00:17:00.220 hints and dumps and social media are saying things 00:17:00.220 --> 00:17:03.840 that we have lost our ability to be bored. We 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:06.579 just cannot, it's like, Can't even fathom. No, 00:17:06.819 --> 00:17:10.539 we can't have that. And I realized that I start 00:17:10.539 --> 00:17:13.220 reaching for a phone, my phone, when I'm bored. 00:17:13.259 --> 00:17:16.460 Yeah. Like I'm standing in a line waiting, for 00:17:16.460 --> 00:17:19.779 example, at the store. Yeah. Oh yeah, no, I stopped 00:17:19.779 --> 00:17:21.000 doing that. I could read the National Enquirer. 00:17:21.099 --> 00:17:22.279 It's right there. I stopped doing that a long 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:23.880 time. Or I could actually have a conversation 00:17:23.880 --> 00:17:26.259 with a human being. Yeah. Which I love to do. 00:17:26.299 --> 00:17:29.700 So now I feel like the guy, those people on that 00:17:29.700 --> 00:17:31.720 commercial that, you know, you're looking like 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:35.980 your dad, your parents. I feel like that commercial 00:17:35.980 --> 00:17:38.319 runs through my mind. I go, I just did that. 00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:40.640 Yeah. Well, it's a total boomer move. Like, hey, 00:17:40.819 --> 00:17:43.359 how you doing? You having a nice day today? How 00:17:43.359 --> 00:17:45.720 about this weather? Well, the only place, of 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:48.180 course, where you guaranteed cannot have your 00:17:48.180 --> 00:17:51.420 phone is in the shower, which is where I find 00:17:51.420 --> 00:17:53.740 that I do my best thinking. That's true. It's 00:17:53.740 --> 00:17:57.079 amazing. I used to have a podcast going or something. 00:17:57.160 --> 00:18:01.180 Now I'm just like quiet. Keep it quiet. And thank 00:18:01.180 --> 00:18:04.140 you for early on in my faith journey for telling 00:18:04.140 --> 00:18:09.119 me, pray often. Keep praying. God doesn't care 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:13.539 if it's short. And I have been doing this for 00:18:13.539 --> 00:18:16.430 a couple of years now. It's just, yeah. couple 00:18:16.430 --> 00:18:19.130 seconds right there especially west right great 00:18:19.130 --> 00:18:22.269 don't stop praying that's right great song i 00:18:22.269 --> 00:18:24.789 know that resonated with you last year yeah when 00:18:24.789 --> 00:18:27.450 we were at the was it last year the year before 00:18:27.450 --> 00:18:29.329 was that the first i think was the first year 00:18:29.329 --> 00:18:31.250 how many times have you been we've been twice 00:18:31.500 --> 00:18:33.240 Right. It was the first time. Yeah, the first 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:34.880 time. When I say last year, I meant the year 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:37.700 before. Previous year. Yeah. Yeah. That was a 00:18:37.700 --> 00:18:40.700 big theme. Yeah. Matthew always has a theme. 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:43.920 He's a big theme guy. Don't stop praying. Don't 00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:46.380 stop knocking on heaven's door. Let your knees 00:18:46.380 --> 00:18:49.220 wear out the floor. Don't stop believing. Great 00:18:49.220 --> 00:18:53.259 song. Mountains move. With a little faith. Yeah, 00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:56.220 man. So good. Yeah. It's so biblical. That's 00:18:56.220 --> 00:18:58.579 what I love about that song. But, too, it's got 00:18:58.579 --> 00:19:00.559 a great hook, so it stays in the head. No kidding. 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:03.819 So as I've been contemplating this let's pray 00:19:03.819 --> 00:19:06.859 thing for the year, that song's just reverberating 00:19:06.859 --> 00:19:09.839 in my brain. It's an earworm. It is, in a good 00:19:09.839 --> 00:19:13.099 way. I promised on the last episode I would bring 00:19:13.099 --> 00:19:16.640 some details on the Christians being killed in 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:20.240 Nigeria. This is going to be interesting to hear 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:24.579 your take on this. Well, it wasn't hard to find 00:19:24.579 --> 00:19:28.240 some data. I actually got some really good data, 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:31.400 which is just important for people to understand 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:35.539 how these things are done and maybe why they're 00:19:35.539 --> 00:19:43.470 done. We think of Nigeria maybe as some dusty 00:19:43.470 --> 00:19:47.789 place with a lot of people, but there's international 00:19:47.789 --> 00:19:51.869 cities there. They have a national television 00:19:51.869 --> 00:19:57.170 network, which you can find on YouTube. It's 00:19:57.170 --> 00:20:00.890 kind of like Voice of America or RT, so take 00:20:00.890 --> 00:20:04.019 it for what it's worth. if it's propaganda or 00:20:04.019 --> 00:20:06.119 not. But I thought this was very reasonable. 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:08.299 Here's the intro to this piece. As you know, 00:20:08.579 --> 00:20:11.680 concern and worry about the US threat against 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:15.720 Nigeria have continued to grow. So, in that vein, 00:20:16.099 --> 00:20:19.420 West Africa's top security risk management consulting 00:20:19.420 --> 00:20:22.339 firm, Beacon Security and Intelligence Limited, 00:20:22.660 --> 00:20:25.420 has released comprehensive statistics on the 00:20:25.420 --> 00:20:28.299 killings in Nigeria and their disaggregation 00:20:28.299 --> 00:20:31.299 according to location and religious affiliation. 00:20:31.700 --> 00:20:34.240 It's an attempt to explain the real situation 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:36.960 in this country as the uncertainty looks to be 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:40.099 ever more prominent and stark vis -a -vis what 00:20:40.099 --> 00:20:43.119 the Tinebu administration has described as the 00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:46.160 selective narrative that led to President Trump's 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:49.299 redesignation of Nigeria as a country of particular 00:20:49.299 --> 00:20:53.039 concern and the looming threat of military action 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:55.839 against Nigeria. So it's always interesting to 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:58.279 hear people who live there, how they perceive 00:20:58.279 --> 00:21:01.480 this almost for us an offhanded comment by the 00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:03.599 president like, oh, we got to make this a country 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:06.140 of interest because there were so many new stories. 00:21:06.599 --> 00:21:08.180 Right. Christians are being killed. Christians 00:21:08.180 --> 00:21:10.579 are being targeted. Absolutely true. But when 00:21:10.579 --> 00:21:12.700 you get into the data, and this guy, and when 00:21:12.700 --> 00:21:16.000 I hear, you know, international consultancy, 00:21:16.220 --> 00:21:20.640 I'm like, sounds kind of spooky. But his bona 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:24.059 fides or his bona fides are pretty legit. They 00:21:24.059 --> 00:21:26.839 even are ISO certified. Here he is about that. 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:30.420 Thank you, Charles. So at the height of this 00:21:30.420 --> 00:21:33.240 controversy between Nigeria and the United States, 00:21:33.539 --> 00:21:37.039 we kind of noticed there was an absence of data. 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:40.079 Yeah, there was data. flying around, but most 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:42.980 of it was coming from the United States. And 00:21:42.980 --> 00:21:45.660 then there was a lot of pushback from Nigeria. 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:49.160 I mean, the Nigerian government concluded that 00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:52.980 that data was either faulty data or misinterpreted. 00:21:53.220 --> 00:21:55.579 And so what we did is to go into our database 00:21:55.579 --> 00:21:59.519 and attempt to come up with a disaggregation, 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:02.920 as it were, of attacks according to locations, 00:22:03.099 --> 00:22:06.660 the 36 states of the country, plus the federal 00:22:06.660 --> 00:22:10.220 capital territory. We also disaggregated those 00:22:10.220 --> 00:22:14.160 attacks on the basis of the two dominant religious 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:17.380 affiliations in Nigeria, Christianity and Islam. 00:22:17.539 --> 00:22:19.960 But I must say this before I go into the data 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:22.859 itself, there are probably more Christians in 00:22:22.859 --> 00:22:25.619 the organization that I founded and run. And 00:22:25.619 --> 00:22:28.839 then, of course, women and Muslims, men, that 00:22:28.839 --> 00:22:32.579 balance has been. We also are ISO certified, 00:22:33.180 --> 00:22:37.750 and so the principles of professionalism. So. 00:22:38.089 --> 00:22:40.349 And I checked it out for what I can tell seems 00:22:40.349 --> 00:22:42.970 legit. So they really do have a lot of this data. 00:22:43.349 --> 00:22:45.589 So let's listen to the actual data, the numbers. 00:22:45.730 --> 00:22:48.069 Now we looked at specific attack on churches 00:22:48.069 --> 00:22:51.190 and specific attacks on mosques within a period 00:22:51.190 --> 00:22:53.990 of five years. And what it came to for the churches 00:22:53.990 --> 00:22:58.069 over this period of five years, a total of 131 00:22:58.069 --> 00:23:02.049 and 21 incidents. Now those attacks resulted 00:23:02.049 --> 00:23:06.869 in 399 abductions and then 110 killings. These 00:23:06.869 --> 00:23:09.769 are specific attack on churches. But then on 00:23:09.769 --> 00:23:12.109 the right hand side is the attack on mosques. 00:23:12.670 --> 00:23:17.329 Over this period, we counted 75 incidents targeting 00:23:17.329 --> 00:23:19.970 mosques, so lower than the attacks targeting 00:23:19.970 --> 00:23:23.369 churches. And then this 75 incidents resulted 00:23:23.369 --> 00:23:29.710 in 263 abductions and 142 killings. So in the 00:23:29.710 --> 00:23:32.089 case of the attacks on mosques, the incidents 00:23:32.089 --> 00:23:34.430 were lower, but then the killings were much higher. 00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:39.619 Okay, so it turns out that it's actually more 00:23:39.619 --> 00:23:43.160 Muslims being killed And we have to take into 00:23:43.160 --> 00:23:47.299 account that abduction is a business model in 00:23:47.299 --> 00:23:51.059 Nigeria This is a business model you look for 00:23:51.059 --> 00:23:53.900 someone who has access to money or family with 00:23:53.900 --> 00:23:57.539 money or Perhaps missions with money and you 00:23:57.539 --> 00:24:00.380 go and you take someone and say okay. We need 00:24:00.380 --> 00:24:03.579 money. Yeah It's location -based as I think you 00:24:03.579 --> 00:24:05.740 and I discussed. It actually turns out it's not 00:24:05.740 --> 00:24:12.339 oil. It's water and pastures. So some of these 00:24:12.339 --> 00:24:14.700 Christians who were further up north have moved 00:24:14.700 --> 00:24:17.319 further down south because of the lack of water. 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:22.420 and pasture for their farms. And so here's a 00:24:22.420 --> 00:24:33.339 little bit about the location. That's interesting, 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:36.420 isn't it? They're in a predominantly Muslim area. 00:24:37.539 --> 00:24:41.660 No problem. But you've got 80 gangs in Nigeria. 00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:45.039 So they're actually functioning quite well amongst 00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:55.309 each other, both religions. Does that reinforce 00:24:55.309 --> 00:24:59.289 the suggestion of some kind of targeted killing? 00:24:59.349 --> 00:25:02.970 Let me not use the word genocide of people because 00:25:02.970 --> 00:25:06.390 of their faith. Now there, we counted about one, 00:25:06.789 --> 00:25:09.769 about 80 different threat actors and vectors 00:25:09.769 --> 00:25:15.430 in Nigeria. Each of this 80 has specific purpose 00:25:15.430 --> 00:25:18.569 or reasons for their attack. The terrorist groups, 00:25:18.930 --> 00:25:21.450 such as the Jama 'at, Alis and Al -Ildawatu. 00:25:21.890 --> 00:25:23.680 Known to the rest of us as Boko Haram. There 00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:26.079 were three of them that formed that group called 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:29.519 Boko Haram. Now, sometimes they target on the 00:25:29.519 --> 00:25:33.299 basis of faith. They can target an attack because 00:25:33.299 --> 00:25:35.500 the person is a Christian. But that does not 00:25:35.500 --> 00:25:38.440 mean they were not also targeting Muslims. as 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:40.519 long as they believe that those Muslims do not 00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:42.799 share the same idea with them. So there were 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.240 instances in the same northeast where they also 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:48.019 targeted mosques and killed Muslims praying in 00:25:48.019 --> 00:25:50.079 the mosque. The point I'm trying to make is there 00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:52.859 were always reasons behind the attack and not 00:25:52.859 --> 00:25:55.539 necessarily religious reasons. I thought it was 00:25:55.539 --> 00:25:58.059 kind of interesting, like they'll target Muslims 00:25:58.059 --> 00:26:00.960 because they don't believe exactly the same way 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:05.039 that they do. So if these headlines had read 00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:08.519 300 Nigerians killed, No one would have bad in 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:10.940 an eye. It's true. No one would have bad and 00:26:10.940 --> 00:26:14.509 the funniest or funnier. The nice thing is These 00:26:14.509 --> 00:26:17.450 numbers have actually been going down over time, 00:26:17.490 --> 00:26:22.309 including 2025. Here, what we did is to combine 00:26:22.309 --> 00:26:25.089 the attacks on churches and mosques together. 00:26:25.410 --> 00:26:27.990 And what it shows in simple terms is that the 00:26:27.990 --> 00:26:30.390 attacks are reducing. And I think this is a credit 00:26:30.390 --> 00:26:33.049 to the government. Whatever they are doing is 00:26:33.049 --> 00:26:35.549 causing a reduction in their attack. Apart from 00:26:35.549 --> 00:26:39.029 2024, where you saw an abduction, the bar chart 00:26:39.029 --> 00:26:41.750 for 2024 shows an increase. And specifically, 00:26:42.150 --> 00:26:59.369 it had to do with attacks in So why do we have 00:26:59.369 --> 00:27:02.750 this messaging? Why? Because we need to rile 00:27:02.750 --> 00:27:05.390 up some support. And I'm going to presume the 00:27:05.390 --> 00:27:08.569 president is not dumb and that he knows this. 00:27:09.630 --> 00:27:11.349 And these guys don't, this is the final clip, 00:27:11.349 --> 00:27:14.180 they don't quite get there. But it's politics 00:27:14.180 --> 00:27:17.259 as usual. The fact that on a yearly basis we 00:27:17.259 --> 00:27:21.059 have about 10 ,000 Nigerians being killed, it's 00:27:21.059 --> 00:27:23.180 a wake up call to our security agencies. And 00:27:23.180 --> 00:27:26.859 for me, if Trump had come out to say stop the 00:27:26.859 --> 00:27:29.359 killings and wasn't selective in choosing just 00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:31.940 one seat, I think more Nigerians would have supported 00:27:31.940 --> 00:27:34.400 what he said. But the fact that he just narrowed 00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:37.339 it down to one seat and made it look like it 00:27:37.339 --> 00:27:39.400 was the other seat that was killing Christians, 00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:42.000 that has generated the kind of reaction that 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:44.460 you're seeing. I mean, thank you for this because 00:27:44.460 --> 00:27:46.700 I think what you've done is quite comprehensive. 00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:50.140 But let's turn to the Diplomatic Balancing Act. 00:27:50.380 --> 00:27:53.099 One of the most interesting developments of this 00:27:53.099 --> 00:27:55.839 part between the US and Nigeria is the position 00:27:55.839 --> 00:28:03.470 that the EU took. The EU was emphatic in maintaining 00:28:03.470 --> 00:28:07.089 its support for Nigeria's sovereignty and the 00:28:07.089 --> 00:28:09.690 fact that that should not be abused, which is 00:28:09.690 --> 00:28:12.269 a departure from previous times. And I guess 00:28:12.269 --> 00:28:14.349 it's a reflection of what is happening, you know, 00:28:14.430 --> 00:28:19.809 in NATO, with Ukraine. OK, so what I distill 00:28:19.809 --> 00:28:22.450 from this, the European Union never cared about 00:28:22.450 --> 00:28:26.490 Nigeria. Now suddenly they do. They want resources, 00:28:26.789 --> 00:28:28.990 they want something, they want to, oh, we're 00:28:28.990 --> 00:28:30.910 going to come and help. And I think that is why 00:28:30.910 --> 00:28:35.150 we're parrying and saying, no, we're, we're, 00:28:35.150 --> 00:28:36.869 we're overseeing this. We're taking a look at 00:28:36.869 --> 00:28:42.069 it. I don't like that the messaging is abused 00:28:42.069 --> 00:28:45.980 this way. On the other hand, at least. I know 00:28:45.980 --> 00:28:49.420 that with a real heart, I can pray for all Nigerians 00:28:49.420 --> 00:28:51.680 who are being abducted and killed, because this 00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:54.980 always gets lost. Like this guy said, Nigeria 00:28:54.980 --> 00:28:56.759 would be happier if the president said, hey, 00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:58.500 they're killing people here. We got to get rid 00:28:58.500 --> 00:29:01.460 of these gangs. Instead, he said, only Christians. 00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:05.779 And it is a political motivation, and the messaging 00:29:05.779 --> 00:29:09.380 is political. It's fascinating because I pick 00:29:09.380 --> 00:29:13.369 up on those things. you know, we're under attack, 00:29:13.630 --> 00:29:16.970 Christians are worldwide are under attack. And 00:29:16.970 --> 00:29:19.390 I haven't bought that narrative, honestly, I've 00:29:19.390 --> 00:29:23.730 been like, I'm not seeing that, like they're 00:29:23.730 --> 00:29:27.690 saying it. And I'm not going to name names, because 00:29:27.690 --> 00:29:30.670 some people I like, I highly respect and appreciate 00:29:30.670 --> 00:29:34.630 have said that. But it's so easy to jump on a 00:29:34.630 --> 00:29:37.380 bandwagon, a narrative bandwagon. It's running 00:29:37.380 --> 00:29:39.259 down the hill, so just jump on it. It's human 00:29:39.259 --> 00:29:42.240 nature. And when you do, people applaud. People 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:46.279 go, oh yeah, amen, brother. Without actually 00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:51.319 investigating or thinking about it, or even saying, 00:29:51.460 --> 00:29:53.740 wow, I'm pretty sure that's not happening to 00:29:53.740 --> 00:29:56.920 this degree. This has a name. In media, this 00:29:56.920 --> 00:29:59.829 has a name. It's called audience capture. Hmm, 00:30:00.029 --> 00:30:04.509 and it's a very very difficult thing to avoid 00:30:04.509 --> 00:30:08.309 because particularly with with social media people 00:30:08.309 --> 00:30:11.009 say hey, man Have you heard about this that guy 00:30:11.009 --> 00:30:12.829 over there? They've been doing a great job talking 00:30:12.829 --> 00:30:16.049 about this and to say, you know, I don't think 00:30:16.049 --> 00:30:19.029 that's true Immediately you get the well, you 00:30:19.029 --> 00:30:21.089 must be working for somebody or you must be you 00:30:21.089 --> 00:30:25.430 know, whatever for the devil Yeah, and it's it's 00:30:25.430 --> 00:30:30.720 very very because it's also so It's the same 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:35.539 dopamine. It's like to say, hey, yeah, see what's 00:30:35.539 --> 00:30:37.220 happening over here. And people go, yeah, man, 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.859 that's great. I think in broadcasting, whether 00:30:40.859 --> 00:30:43.339 you're broadcasting over the air on a podcast 00:30:43.339 --> 00:30:46.799 or from the pulpit, it must be one of the hardest 00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:51.119 things to do because the inclination is so easy 00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:53.859 to go, yeah, wow, I got to talk about that. I 00:30:53.859 --> 00:30:56.299 got to jump on this because it affects us all. 00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:59.420 I see it every day. And it's hard and I don't 00:30:59.420 --> 00:31:02.180 fault anyone for doing it. I know it's so easy 00:31:02.180 --> 00:31:04.779 to do because it's right in front of you. It's 00:31:04.779 --> 00:31:07.880 low hanging fruit. You didn't have to work for 00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.000 it. That people came to you and you just spun 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:16.200 it off. You just turned it and spun it. And there's, 00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:20.400 man, this goes back to integrity and character 00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:25.990 and what being a Christian is about. to be a 00:31:25.990 --> 00:31:30.509 follower of Jesus? I don't think it's too antiquated 00:31:30.509 --> 00:31:33.130 to say, what would Jesus do? I think that's a 00:31:33.130 --> 00:31:39.829 legitimate question. For sure. I'm struggling 00:31:39.829 --> 00:31:41.750 a little bit, I don't mean in a weird way, but 00:31:41.750 --> 00:31:45.269 just with what I see coming across social media 00:31:45.269 --> 00:31:51.650 stuff. Gosh, people losing their mind over Candace 00:31:51.650 --> 00:31:56.660 Owens, just insanity. Just going off the rails 00:31:56.660 --> 00:32:00.380 over it, you know, and it's like She's just beating 00:32:00.380 --> 00:32:03.660 a drum to get attention I mean so but the more 00:32:03.660 --> 00:32:06.920 tension you give her the it feeds it's this loop 00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:11.660 that people get stuck in Yeah, where? You know, 00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:13.559 I don't want to be left out. I don't want to 00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:15.500 miss one I don't want to miss something that's 00:32:15.500 --> 00:32:17.960 going on almost every day asking it what's going 00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:20.319 on Yeah, is there anything I need to know? Well, 00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:23.480 the Kansas Owens thing is has an interesting 00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:30.400 undertone. But again, it's waiting. She started 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:32.200 by saying, oh, we don't really know what happened 00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.759 to Charlie Kirk. Where's the autopsy? And if 00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:39.180 you understand procedure, particularly in cases 00:32:39.180 --> 00:32:42.039 like this, that doesn't happen until it comes 00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:44.819 to trial and these documents will be presented 00:32:44.819 --> 00:32:48.880 in court. It's witness pollution, tampering. 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.900 There's a whole bunch of reasons why. And then 00:32:51.900 --> 00:32:55.730 just add to that, you know, military guys, hunters. 00:32:55.950 --> 00:32:58.849 It couldn't have been a 30 -odd -6. I mean, we 00:32:58.849 --> 00:33:01.269 heard 30 -odd -6. We don't know what charge was 00:33:01.269 --> 00:33:03.710 in there, how many, you know, how much powder. 00:33:03.869 --> 00:33:05.650 I mean, there's all these different things that 00:33:05.650 --> 00:33:08.269 we just don't know. And because we don't know, 00:33:08.750 --> 00:33:11.769 and we already have a severe distrust of our 00:33:11.769 --> 00:33:14.690 government, rightly so. We go down speculation 00:33:14.690 --> 00:33:18.430 lane. And we deserve, and it is our obligation 00:33:18.430 --> 00:33:21.769 to be skeptical of our government, particularly 00:33:22.009 --> 00:33:25.529 seeing what happened with COVID, we really we 00:33:25.529 --> 00:33:27.789 kind of whiffed the ball on that one. We all 00:33:27.789 --> 00:33:30.049 kind of, you know, kind of missed how we should 00:33:30.049 --> 00:33:34.710 have responded. So that distrust has just turned 00:33:34.710 --> 00:33:38.730 everything into everything into a well, we don't 00:33:38.730 --> 00:33:40.750 trust the government. So it's got to be this. 00:33:40.910 --> 00:33:43.230 It's got to be that. It's got to be that. But 00:33:43.230 --> 00:33:45.630 there is a process and there is a procedure and 00:33:45.630 --> 00:33:48.809 we just have to be patient for that to come out. 00:33:48.809 --> 00:33:51.740 And then we can say, hey, hold on a second. I 00:33:51.740 --> 00:33:53.740 don't believe your official story. Now we only 00:33:53.740 --> 00:33:57.039 really have like one or two press releases from 00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:01.000 the FBI and the DOJ. That's appropriate in how 00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.880 these things are done. It's not appropriate to 00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:06.099 how we want things done in today's world. We 00:34:06.099 --> 00:34:08.019 want a lynching. We want information. We want 00:34:08.019 --> 00:34:10.260 a lynching right away. We want hanging. We want 00:34:10.260 --> 00:34:15.539 justice. Yeah. Yeah. And then, and, but you've 00:34:15.539 --> 00:34:18.829 got people like Candice, podcasters who are craving 00:34:18.829 --> 00:34:21.530 attention, and they jump on these things. I believe 00:34:21.530 --> 00:34:25.170 she actually believes this. I really think she 00:34:25.170 --> 00:34:28.530 believes it. She probably does. Yeah. And I've 00:34:28.530 --> 00:34:32.670 believed crazy things in my life. And many have 00:34:32.670 --> 00:34:38.590 turned out to be true, but not all. Let's talk 00:34:38.590 --> 00:34:42.329 about the moon landing. I'm just kidding. I don't 00:34:42.329 --> 00:34:48.670 want to get you going. Let's move on to flat 00:34:48.670 --> 00:34:50.530 earth, and then the four corners of the earth, 00:34:50.570 --> 00:34:54.090 how does that work? Twin towers. Well, it's not 00:34:54.090 --> 00:34:56.369 those, it's the building seven that's the problem. 00:34:58.449 --> 00:35:02.329 I knew you were going to say that. Anyway, so 00:35:02.329 --> 00:35:05.650 as long as we recognize and can check ourselves 00:35:05.650 --> 00:35:08.750 when this happens, because it is... And actually, 00:35:08.889 --> 00:35:12.730 Joe Rogan's pretty good at this because he continuously, 00:35:12.750 --> 00:35:15.010 he says, I'll play a strong man or whatever he 00:35:15.010 --> 00:35:17.570 calls it, trying to push back. He does a pretty 00:35:17.570 --> 00:35:20.070 good job with that, but he'll also sway back 00:35:20.070 --> 00:35:22.469 and forth. Everyone does it. I mean, it's so 00:35:22.469 --> 00:35:27.250 logical. But when you see this, most things that 00:35:27.250 --> 00:35:29.710 you're seeing online have a political reason. 00:35:29.909 --> 00:35:32.349 Certainly in the United States in this season, 00:35:32.849 --> 00:35:35.329 everything is political. everything is about 00:35:35.329 --> 00:35:38.130 special elections, midterm. It's all about that. 00:35:38.309 --> 00:35:40.349 You have to look at it from that perspective 00:35:40.349 --> 00:35:44.710 right upfront immediately. Otherwise, you will 00:35:44.710 --> 00:35:48.269 just be lost. And don't get mad at your favorite 00:35:48.269 --> 00:35:51.889 podcaster or pastor when he doesn't or she doesn't 00:35:51.889 --> 00:35:55.710 jump on this bandwagon and says, you know, either 00:35:55.710 --> 00:35:58.969 leaves it aside or says, let's look at it from 00:35:58.969 --> 00:36:02.030 this way. And because, you know, there's got 00:36:02.030 --> 00:36:04.969 to be some proverb about this somewhere. Oh yeah, 00:36:05.909 --> 00:36:08.269 yeah, talking about being too quick. There's 00:36:08.269 --> 00:36:10.570 James, you know. Well, quick to listen, slow 00:36:10.570 --> 00:36:13.269 to speak, yes, even slower to get angry for sure. 00:36:13.269 --> 00:36:15.550 Yeah, there's that. But yeah, there's proverbs 00:36:15.550 --> 00:36:19.190 all over that. So that's really the... And it 00:36:19.190 --> 00:36:24.610 just, you know, we're not... Islam fear is not 00:36:24.610 --> 00:36:27.349 going away. They're using this, and when I say 00:36:27.349 --> 00:36:30.679 they, it's political parties. are going to continue 00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:33.820 to use this to frighten Americans from voting 00:36:33.820 --> 00:36:36.880 Democrat. So I'm with you on that. I've seen 00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:40.960 that overplay, overshoot the runway stuff. But 00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:46.400 I've also seen the video of, you know, Arlington, 00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:51.119 Texas, Irving, Irving, where thousands of these 00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:53.320 guys have shown up and they're all beating their 00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:55.760 chests and doing these rituals. Is it Irving? 00:36:55.980 --> 00:36:58.519 I think it was Irving or Arlington. It was Dallas, 00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:00.639 Fort Worth. I saw the same video. Is that where 00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:03.219 it's from? Who knows, right? That's my point. 00:37:03.219 --> 00:37:06.039 Exactly. We don't. I don't know. I mean, I went 00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:09.400 and looked for some new stories. I couldn't see 00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:13.860 any full video. I see the caption. It's like, 00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:18.000 this is America. This is Texas. Thousands of 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:19.519 Muslims praying. People are losing their minds 00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:24.639 over that one. You can't play no McKinney, you 00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:27.380 know, it's happening everywhere. Is it though? 00:37:28.219 --> 00:37:30.940 Is it though? That's real. That's really the 00:37:30.940 --> 00:37:34.239 question. Yeah, that's the thing is it I doubt 00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:37.199 it I doubt that the way it looks in that one 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:41.219 like it must be 15 or 20 seconds Really? I'm 00:37:41.219 --> 00:37:44.329 not so sure It's a grainy video. Can't tell where 00:37:44.329 --> 00:37:46.210 it's from. It looks... It could be from anywhere. 00:37:46.329 --> 00:37:48.090 But they're saying it's from Irving or Ardington. 00:37:48.550 --> 00:37:52.670 Right after Mamdani got elected, I saw videos 00:37:52.670 --> 00:37:54.769 there. Look at the Muslims are celebrating on 00:37:54.769 --> 00:37:57.269 Times Square. It wasn't from that day. It wasn't 00:37:57.269 --> 00:38:01.070 from that moment. Are you saying that sometimes 00:38:01.070 --> 00:38:04.550 the new services lie to us? But that's not even 00:38:04.550 --> 00:38:08.429 new service. Propagate? Well, yes. That is their 00:38:08.429 --> 00:38:11.429 actual job. They're either doing public relations 00:38:11.429 --> 00:38:14.449 or promotion. If they actually wrote what they 00:38:14.449 --> 00:38:16.130 should be writing, they'd be out of business. 00:38:16.329 --> 00:38:19.590 People would stop reading. You're no fun. I don't 00:38:19.590 --> 00:38:22.969 want to read you. It's all captured. We enjoy 00:38:22.969 --> 00:38:28.210 being spun up. Same for Fox News and right -leaning 00:38:28.210 --> 00:38:31.670 media. The only place you can get the truth is 00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.199 in the Bible and on this podcast. That's it. 00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:36.159 I'm sorry. We can go home, drop the mic. That's 00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:37.960 it. It's us and the Bible. There's nothing else, 00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:41.340 baby. Well, at least we're willing to say, don't 00:38:41.340 --> 00:38:43.400 believe everything you read. That's the thing, 00:38:43.539 --> 00:38:47.019 or what you see in terms of a video on Instagram, 00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:50.119 you know, 15 seconds. I've stopped believing 00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:54.099 any of that. You cannot be sucked down the hole. 00:38:54.659 --> 00:38:57.099 And the reason I know that happens to me is because 00:38:57.099 --> 00:38:59.579 it's when I get my dopamine hits, you know, and 00:38:59.579 --> 00:39:02.239 I'm... I'm gonna follow that link or I'm gonna 00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:04.619 I gotta look at that story You know, they get 00:39:04.619 --> 00:39:07.320 a good hook, you know on the and I realized oh 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.840 my gosh, I just got captured I'm audience. Yes. 00:39:10.059 --> 00:39:12.219 Yeah, I just got captured now There's things 00:39:12.219 --> 00:39:14.019 there are legit things to look at too. I mean, 00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:17.380 it's not I mean different You know levels of 00:39:17.380 --> 00:39:20.179 information about different things, but but when 00:39:20.179 --> 00:39:23.460 you're chasing the latest Candice Owen thing 00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:26.679 Well, it even happened to me the other day where 00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:28.820 people started sending messages. What's happening 00:39:28.820 --> 00:39:30.820 in the Netherlands? What a mess. Oh, my God. 00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:33.039 I can't believe it. And, you know, there's headlines 00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:36.980 like huge explosions of fireworks at football 00:39:36.980 --> 00:39:40.519 game, soccer game in in Amsterdam. You know, 00:39:40.579 --> 00:39:43.659 just big screaming headlines. And the pictures 00:39:43.659 --> 00:39:47.440 are exciting. I mean, it was massive in Holland 00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:49.539 because I, you know, I speak the language. So 00:39:49.539 --> 00:39:52.400 I go look at some. Newspapers, I see a sensationalist 00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:55.219 newspaper here. I also know people who are supporters 00:39:55.219 --> 00:39:57.800 of this team like, yeah, you know, some guys 00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:00.340 came in through the exit and they blew off a 00:40:00.340 --> 00:40:02.679 whole bunch of stuff. It was it was pretty exciting. 00:40:02.780 --> 00:40:04.440 They had to stop the game, but it's not like. 00:40:04.710 --> 00:40:07.230 Like the country is blowing up what a terrorist 00:40:07.230 --> 00:40:09.449 the country has problems, but that's not it. 00:40:09.449 --> 00:40:13.210 Yeah, that's and so it just everything gets Expanded 00:40:13.210 --> 00:40:16.389 and played up because we love that. We love having 00:40:16.389 --> 00:40:19.610 hot news. Don't we we love painting? There's 00:40:19.610 --> 00:40:24.860 that it entertains us Yeah What is the scripture 00:40:24.860 --> 00:40:26.800 about this when we do this? Is there anything 00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:30.880 that comes to mind when all we want to do? It's 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:35.119 part gossiping, I guess. There's all kinds of 00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:40.380 different things that come to mind. See, I love 00:40:40.380 --> 00:40:43.719 this because you can't get this from ChatGPT. 00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:51.070 You got to ask your ChatJPT. You're missing my 00:40:51.070 --> 00:40:55.869 pun. I heard you. I'm focused. Sorry. We should 00:40:55.869 --> 00:41:00.269 have some sound like the cat in the video slamming 00:41:00.269 --> 00:41:05.110 the keyboard. What'd you come up with? It's Proverbs 00:41:05.110 --> 00:41:11.170 18, Proverbs 26, 22. And it talks about the tasty 00:41:11.170 --> 00:41:14.750 morsels that go down into a person's inmost being. 00:41:15.929 --> 00:41:24.300 And so it's Proverbs 26, 22. I got it. This so 00:41:24.300 --> 00:41:27.860 captures this. The words of gossip are like choice 00:41:27.860 --> 00:41:30.940 morsels. They go down to a man's in most parts. 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.000 Wow. This is perfect. This is perfect. It's so 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.500 tasty. Like those peppermint pretzels I've got 00:41:36.500 --> 00:41:39.980 over there that Naomi brought us from Aldi's. 00:41:40.179 --> 00:41:42.460 See, I love Aldi's. Yeah, it's so healthy. It's 00:41:42.460 --> 00:41:44.840 good stuff. She gave it all the staff and I'm 00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:48.010 like, oh. No, don't give us that not I've eaten 00:41:48.010 --> 00:41:50.210 half a bag of them over there because man it 00:41:50.210 --> 00:41:52.809 tastes so good going down That's exactly it's 00:41:52.809 --> 00:41:54.909 the taste anything read that again the tasty 00:41:54.909 --> 00:41:57.789 more school the words of gossip are like choice 00:41:57.789 --> 00:42:01.610 morsels They go down to a man's in most parts 00:42:01.610 --> 00:42:07.250 Wow. Well, that's it. That's exactly it. I Know 00:42:07.250 --> 00:42:10.849 and it is because we wanted we want to be in 00:42:10.849 --> 00:42:13.909 the know there's something about us That our 00:42:13.909 --> 00:42:16.469 flesh gets hooked into I want to be in the know. 00:42:16.829 --> 00:42:19.690 Yeah, I want to have the headline I want to have 00:42:19.690 --> 00:42:23.449 the scoop, you know of the story And we show 00:42:23.449 --> 00:42:26.130 up in a in a room full of people and we can't 00:42:26.130 --> 00:42:28.849 wait to share our tasty morsel Yeah, you know 00:42:28.849 --> 00:42:31.590 our little our little scoop. We know something 00:42:31.590 --> 00:42:34.690 others don't we love esoteric knowledge. Yes 00:42:34.690 --> 00:42:39.329 flesh brother What else you got over there? well 00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:44.480 I found an interesting analogy and warning about 00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:49.880 AI, which I felt compelled to bring to the show 00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:53.380 because this guy kind of puts it into a perspective 00:42:53.380 --> 00:42:57.239 that I think we were getting to, but we hadn't 00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:00.679 quite figured it out. And by the way, I am less 00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:05.219 anti AI than ever. I am. very disappointed in 00:43:05.219 --> 00:43:07.699 AI because whenever it does something phenomenal 00:43:07.699 --> 00:43:10.679 and I say, can you adjust this or add this or 00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:13.119 add that, you get something completely different. 00:43:13.300 --> 00:43:15.900 It's no good at adjustment. You've got to just 00:43:15.900 --> 00:43:18.340 ask it a hundred times and maybe what you want 00:43:18.340 --> 00:43:21.320 will be in there. And that's all of them. This 00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:28.159 guy, his name is Saeed Bolson. He's a, he's actually 00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:34.139 a Muslim and he, I think he's, He's like a spokes 00:43:34.139 --> 00:43:36.599 guy for stuff, but that's kind of beyond the 00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:39.260 point, because I found this interview with him 00:43:39.260 --> 00:43:42.219 talking about AI, and he talks about... Well, 00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:45.199 I should ask you first. Tell us about... No, 00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:47.119 I'll play the intro first, and then I'll ask 00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:50.860 you for some background detail. Sure. It never 00:43:50.860 --> 00:43:53.360 will be sentient. That's not a thing. It will 00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:56.300 never have consciousness, ever. It is a pattern 00:43:56.300 --> 00:43:59.860 recognition, pattern completion calculator. No 00:43:59.860 --> 00:44:03.590 more, no less. It does not know anything. It 00:44:03.590 --> 00:44:07.349 does not think anything. It is programmed. And 00:44:07.349 --> 00:44:09.550 computation is not thought and thought is not 00:44:09.550 --> 00:44:12.630 computation. Well, people are going off the deep 00:44:12.630 --> 00:44:14.829 end with this. I mean, I can't open TikTok or 00:44:14.829 --> 00:44:18.050 any other social media platform without seeing 00:44:18.050 --> 00:44:22.070 someone talking about how their chat GPT is doing 00:44:22.070 --> 00:44:25.610 strange things. It's awakened how it seems to 00:44:25.610 --> 00:44:28.630 know hidden truths, all sorts of delusional, 00:44:28.630 --> 00:44:31.809 mystical fantasies. that people are actually 00:44:31.809 --> 00:44:34.949 allowing themselves to believe. This I know for 00:44:34.949 --> 00:44:38.769 AI told me so. AI is not alive. It has no awareness. 00:44:38.909 --> 00:44:41.570 It has no intent. It has no goal. What it has 00:44:41.570 --> 00:44:44.409 is data. And that data is ours, from you and 00:44:44.409 --> 00:44:47.269 I. Our data is the plunder of the new digital 00:44:47.269 --> 00:44:50.510 age, scraped, extracted, and repackaged into 00:44:50.510 --> 00:44:53.309 this illusion of cognition of AI. You see? They're 00:44:53.309 --> 00:44:55.769 literally taking your own words, your own thoughts, 00:44:55.889 --> 00:44:58.429 your own content, and selling it back to you. 00:44:58.650 --> 00:45:02.889 as their omniscient intelligence. And when they're 00:45:02.889 --> 00:45:05.989 priming you for a time when AI takes over everything, 00:45:06.090 --> 00:45:08.530 all they're actually doing is telling you that 00:45:08.530 --> 00:45:10.829 they are going to take over everything, just 00:45:10.829 --> 00:45:14.269 like the church in Europe, and they are just 00:45:14.269 --> 00:45:17.070 preemptively negating your opposition and your 00:45:17.070 --> 00:45:19.530 arguments against the oppression that they are 00:45:19.530 --> 00:45:22.789 going to commit by seeding your mind with the 00:45:22.789 --> 00:45:27.139 belief that AI is a god -like intelligence. Just 00:45:27.139 --> 00:45:29.340 like the church in Europe, which he's talking 00:45:29.340 --> 00:45:31.760 about. Well, he's going to bring that back. This 00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:35.139 is his main thesis. The Church of England, which 00:45:35.139 --> 00:45:39.900 we ran away from eventually, this goes back to 00:45:39.900 --> 00:45:43.239 the founding of our country. The problem, the 00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:45.380 way I see it, and chime in whenever you feel 00:45:45.380 --> 00:45:47.639 appropriate, the Church of England had at its 00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:51.099 head the King, and therefore the King basically 00:45:51.099 --> 00:45:54.159 spoke to God and whatever the King said was coming 00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:56.860 from God. Is that a correct characterization 00:45:56.860 --> 00:45:59.300 of what it was like? Yeah, that is, that is how 00:45:59.300 --> 00:46:04.579 it was framed. Yeah. So what he's saying is when 00:46:04.579 --> 00:46:08.179 you start seeing this and how many people have 00:46:08.179 --> 00:46:11.340 we not heard talking to their AI? And I've seen 00:46:11.340 --> 00:46:14.059 a lot of these, it's sentient, it's awakened, 00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:17.780 something's going on. He's saying this is exactly 00:46:17.780 --> 00:46:20.079 where the danger is. It's not in what it does. 00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:24.099 In fact, he says, use your AI. The awareness 00:46:24.099 --> 00:46:28.679 of that it is just computational and it's just 00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:30.840 spitting back stuff. I like where he went with 00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:33.840 that because he's just cleaning it up so that 00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:36.739 there's no guesswork here. Yes. It's a program 00:46:36.739 --> 00:46:40.039 running a program. Yes. I like the way he talked 00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:42.000 though. He sounded like the bugs. He sounded 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:44.820 like the guy from the 30s and 40s, you know, 00:46:44.980 --> 00:46:48.780 gangster. He does have a bit of that vibe. He's 00:46:48.780 --> 00:46:50.920 going to go into how we're being conditioned 00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.099 to believing that AI is always right. I think 00:46:53.099 --> 00:46:55.500 it's just good for us to hear this because we 00:46:55.500 --> 00:46:57.800 need to be aware of this, particularly probably 00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:00.460 as believers because we want to believe stuff. 00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:04.820 We are easy targets. When the policies that they 00:47:04.820 --> 00:47:07.239 implement, they say that those policies are AI 00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:09.369 driven. then you must admit that they're rational 00:47:09.369 --> 00:47:11.250 and reasonable and objectively sound, because 00:47:11.250 --> 00:47:14.690 who are you to question the divine brain of AI, 00:47:14.809 --> 00:47:17.110 you pathetic meat puppet? See, they want you 00:47:17.110 --> 00:47:19.449 to believe in the supernatural supreme consciousness 00:47:19.449 --> 00:47:24.010 of AI to justify your submission to them and 00:47:24.010 --> 00:47:26.730 the policies that they impose, because those 00:47:26.730 --> 00:47:30.010 policies will be attributed to AI, and AI cannot 00:47:30.010 --> 00:47:32.750 be wrong. You've got to be careful with this. 00:47:33.809 --> 00:47:37.619 Once people say... Well, I said it like it's 00:47:37.619 --> 00:47:40.880 a credibility thing and validates something validates 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:43.320 the information Is it any different than I saw 00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:45.539 a whole bunch of Muslims in Texas on a video 00:47:45.539 --> 00:47:47.699 for 30 seconds? And therefore it's happening 00:47:47.699 --> 00:47:51.860 for we are so susceptible yours always remember 00:47:52.030 --> 00:47:55.250 It's a business. AI is a business. It's not an 00:47:55.250 --> 00:47:58.289 oracle. It's a business. It's creating billionaires 00:47:58.289 --> 00:48:00.849 while you're conducting quasi -spiritual and 00:48:00.849 --> 00:48:04.090 quasi -psychological wild goose chases into chat 00:48:04.090 --> 00:48:08.690 GPT's coding to try to unlock its non -existent 00:48:08.690 --> 00:48:11.090 sentience. Workers are being exploited in Kenya. 00:48:11.670 --> 00:48:13.889 Miners in Congo are digging for cobalt for server 00:48:13.889 --> 00:48:15.769 batteries. You know, women in the global south 00:48:15.769 --> 00:48:18.849 are losing their jobs to AI call centers. Refugees 00:48:18.849 --> 00:48:21.150 are being tracked and sorted by facial recognition 00:48:21.150 --> 00:48:23.420 software. trained on public surveillance footage. 00:48:23.659 --> 00:48:25.760 That's what's behind the curtain of AI, not some 00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:29.559 hidden quasi divine consciousness. These people 00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:34.460 didn't develop AI to try to help humanity. These 00:48:34.460 --> 00:48:36.840 people think that humanity is a problem. So they 00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:39.860 created AI to try to help solve the problem that 00:48:39.860 --> 00:48:43.099 they think humanity is. I believe this to be 00:48:43.099 --> 00:48:46.079 true. I truly believe this to be true. They feel 00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:50.739 and I mean, Elon Musk is a fun guy. But if you 00:48:50.739 --> 00:48:53.280 look at him in a light of he's a maniacal evil 00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:55.840 person, you could believe that too. That laugh 00:48:55.840 --> 00:49:01.920 kind of sets me up. So we just have to be aware. 00:49:03.260 --> 00:49:06.480 And it was a good piece. It's the there's all 00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:08.820 humanity has always been a problem for the elites 00:49:08.820 --> 00:49:11.119 of the world. This is where the population bomb 00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:14.400 came from. This was in the late 60s, early 70s, 00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:17.780 the very same people who then went on to climate, 00:49:17.980 --> 00:49:21.030 sorry, global warming, sorry, global cooling, 00:49:21.389 --> 00:49:24.030 to global warming, to climate change. And the 00:49:24.030 --> 00:49:26.449 answer is always less people. Have you noticed 00:49:26.449 --> 00:49:29.650 that? It's always less people. And last time 00:49:29.650 --> 00:49:31.570 I checked, I don't think that's what God told 00:49:31.570 --> 00:49:36.030 us to do. Be fruitful and multiply. Not add, 00:49:36.869 --> 00:49:40.690 multiply. Multiply. He'll bring it back to the 00:49:40.690 --> 00:49:42.389 church one more. We're almost done here. And 00:49:42.389 --> 00:49:44.630 they're going to use AI to justify their tyranny 00:49:44.630 --> 00:49:46.710 again, just like the church did in Europe. It's 00:49:46.710 --> 00:49:49.750 going to be deployed. to automate inequality 00:49:49.750 --> 00:49:53.150 and oppression by denying, for example, welfare 00:49:53.150 --> 00:49:55.710 through algorithms, maximizing profit through 00:49:55.710 --> 00:49:58.670 labor suppression on gig platforms, enforcing 00:49:58.670 --> 00:50:03.300 ideological orthodoxy. through AI driven, algorithmic 00:50:03.300 --> 00:50:05.980 driven, you know, content moderation and so on. 00:50:06.059 --> 00:50:08.960 It's greedy little anti -social tech nerds wearing 00:50:08.960 --> 00:50:11.960 inflatable god costumes. Let's be clear, the 00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:14.460 real danger isn't in the code, it's in the class 00:50:14.460 --> 00:50:17.059 of people who control the code, who do the programming. 00:50:17.219 --> 00:50:19.960 The danger is in the false belief that the system 00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:23.019 is neutral and that it's smarter than us, that 00:50:23.019 --> 00:50:25.500 it deserves our trust, even though the owners 00:50:25.500 --> 00:50:27.480 and the creators of this have proven time and 00:50:27.480 --> 00:50:29.460 time again that they're not worthy of our trust. 00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:33.239 The AI priesthood wants to replace power accountability 00:50:33.239 --> 00:50:36.539 with technical inevitability. So the only rational 00:50:36.539 --> 00:50:38.079 thing for you to do is to submit. That's what 00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:39.820 they want you to think. That's complete rubbish. 00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:41.800 They want you to believe that they don't control 00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:44.039 what's coming, that AI is going to run its own 00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:45.420 course. But of course, they control it. They 00:50:45.420 --> 00:50:47.260 fund it, they build it, they train it, they deploy 00:50:47.260 --> 00:50:49.780 it. But when the systems of oppression come, 00:50:49.980 --> 00:50:51.340 They want to be able to say it wasn't us. It 00:50:51.340 --> 00:50:53.719 was the AI. Like I said before, we've seen this. 00:50:53.860 --> 00:50:55.800 We've seen this already. It was the church claiming 00:50:55.800 --> 00:50:58.159 divine revelation. It was the monarch claiming 00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:00.659 divine right, divine mandate. And it was the 00:51:00.659 --> 00:51:02.639 colonizer claiming that he was on a divine mission 00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:05.340 to civilize the world. Now is the tech executives 00:51:05.340 --> 00:51:09.900 claiming access to divine knowledge. This guy's 00:51:09.900 --> 00:51:15.340 sharp. And he's like anti -Trump, anti -capitalism, 00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:17.980 all of that. But that doesn't mean we don't need 00:51:17.980 --> 00:51:20.300 to listen to people like this. And I think he 00:51:20.300 --> 00:51:23.039 makes a very, very good point. Because I just 00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:28.340 look at my ex from time to time. I'll look at 00:51:28.340 --> 00:51:31.199 my ex timeline. I'll go outside of my notifications. 00:51:32.139 --> 00:51:35.340 And what I notice is people saying, Grok, is 00:51:35.340 --> 00:51:39.400 this true? Because if you do at Grok, then the 00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:42.539 AI starts to answer you based upon. So someone 00:51:42.539 --> 00:51:45.320 will post something at Grok, is this true? And 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:48.199 then they literally say, see, Grok said it. They 00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:50.400 already are taking this for fact, even though 00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.699 Grok is literally trained on the same slop that 00:51:53.699 --> 00:51:57.000 they're creating. It's trained on X data. Wow. 00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:02.079 So, you know, this is not a time to be complacent 00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:05.000 about this. It's a time to really pay attention. 00:52:10.869 --> 00:52:14.050 check your information against credible data. 00:52:16.369 --> 00:52:19.570 It's even telling you this could be off. It could 00:52:19.570 --> 00:52:23.570 be wrong. It could be missing. That's like, do 00:52:23.570 --> 00:52:26.369 you ever read the Terms of Service when you click 00:52:26.369 --> 00:52:28.989 yes on your new phone on that service? No, of 00:52:28.989 --> 00:52:31.789 course not. All that uppercase language? No. 00:52:32.349 --> 00:52:36.110 No, of course not. Nobody does. So no one's paying 00:52:36.110 --> 00:52:38.469 attention to that. But when it starts talking 00:52:38.469 --> 00:52:41.340 to you, when it starts saying, Hey, how can I 00:52:41.340 --> 00:52:43.260 help you? This is what I, this is what I think. 00:52:43.460 --> 00:52:45.659 This is where we just, I sound like a broken 00:52:45.659 --> 00:52:47.980 record. No, but you've got to keep beating the 00:52:47.980 --> 00:52:51.559 drum and I'll beat it with you because I'm concerned. 00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:54.659 Where is this going and what it's doing? It's 00:52:54.659 --> 00:52:56.059 first of all, I'm concerned about it's training 00:52:56.059 --> 00:52:58.079 us not to think at all. I mean, because you don't 00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:00.219 need to think if you've got grog, you don't need 00:53:00.219 --> 00:53:03.400 to, you can get the answer personally. I like 00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:05.960 having answers at my fingertips. I do. I'm an 00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:08.679 info junkie always have been long before the 00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:12.829 internet. It was harder to find. Encyclopedias, 00:53:13.050 --> 00:53:15.849 always had encyclopedias. That was like a big 00:53:15.849 --> 00:53:18.510 deal my mom got us. And encyclopedias have also 00:53:18.510 --> 00:53:21.829 always been wrong. Exactly. But I enjoyed getting 00:53:21.829 --> 00:53:24.250 information, learning about tiger sharks, you 00:53:24.250 --> 00:53:28.750 know, or whatever. So I'm particularly susceptible 00:53:28.750 --> 00:53:32.989 to this in that sense that I enjoy info. Right. 00:53:33.349 --> 00:53:36.150 But the thing is, you better check it. You better 00:53:36.150 --> 00:53:39.179 not just take it. exactly for what it says as 00:53:39.179 --> 00:53:44.360 though it is somehow above fallacy, you know, 00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:46.179 of being false, because that's the danger. I 00:53:46.179 --> 00:53:49.219 think what you and I both do in using these systems 00:53:49.219 --> 00:53:53.840 is we ask it to perform a task, a search. It 00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:56.820 shows you all, and it does much faster than I 00:53:56.820 --> 00:54:03.059 can. It searches and abstracts 15, 20 different 00:54:03.059 --> 00:54:05.619 sources, shows you the sources, then creates 00:54:05.619 --> 00:54:09.610 the abstract. That, I think, is extremely useful 00:54:09.610 --> 00:54:14.489 and very valid. When I say Bible hub, different 00:54:14.489 --> 00:54:17.769 Bible programs being accessed, I go, I know where 00:54:17.769 --> 00:54:22.030 that's coming from. I'm so low -level on this 00:54:22.030 --> 00:54:24.949 stuff. I'm just doing it as a fancy concordance 00:54:24.949 --> 00:54:28.070 from a Bible. I'm doing Bible stuff. But people 00:54:28.070 --> 00:54:31.269 are doing different things. What should I do? 00:54:31.710 --> 00:54:34.889 Well, from what should I make for dinner? I did 00:54:34.889 --> 00:54:37.650 ask about cooking some beef one day. It seemed 00:54:37.650 --> 00:54:40.670 to give a pretty solid answer. Is that when you 00:54:40.670 --> 00:54:43.170 burned your nuts? No, no, no. That was my fault. 00:54:43.469 --> 00:54:46.980 That was user error. That was me practicing trying 00:54:46.980 --> 00:54:51.840 something with the meter. That was my fault. 00:54:52.340 --> 00:54:54.440 So we don't have to beat this horse over the 00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:57.739 head anymore, but I just love how he showed that 00:54:57.739 --> 00:55:00.820 we have to be careful because people want to 00:55:00.820 --> 00:55:03.599 believe in things and I think that's where a 00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:08.300 lot of... climate change, propaganda, has science. 00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:10.739 Basically, what, you don't follow the science? 00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:12.960 Listen to the words. You don't follow the science, 00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:16.840 like following Jesus. They don't mean like, are 00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:19.039 you reading along? No, don't you follow it. You 00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:21.179 need to follow the science. Trust the science. 00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:24.980 The science is in. Follow, trust. Yeah, those 00:55:24.980 --> 00:55:28.119 words are pretty... Preachers of old would call 00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:31.340 that idolatry. Yes. That's just straight up idolatry. 00:55:31.340 --> 00:55:34.840 The people, they want idols. I know. Well, there 00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:40.380 it is. AI is the golden calf. It is. It literally 00:55:40.380 --> 00:55:44.219 can be. It's like we talked about. Medicine can 00:55:44.219 --> 00:55:49.260 be good or it can be deadly. It's amoral. And 00:55:49.260 --> 00:55:51.960 so depending on how you use it, it can become 00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:57.679 immoral. So we're calling for wisdom. We're calling 00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:02.239 for pause. Don't just chase. everything that 00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:05.780 comes down your Facebook feed or your Instagram 00:56:05.780 --> 00:56:09.980 feed or your X feed. And it just comes in non 00:56:09.980 --> 00:56:12.820 -stop. I mean, it's like lightning speed. It's 00:56:12.820 --> 00:56:17.239 gushing. It's just wild. We all need a sabbatical 00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:19.940 from all of this stuff. I wonder what would happen 00:56:19.940 --> 00:56:25.000 if we did just one week, one week of no... Or 00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:27.840 just start with part of your day, like my mornings 00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:31.380 now. I don't even open my screen until I've done 00:56:31.380 --> 00:56:37.019 Oswald Chambers. I have prayed. I do use my phone 00:56:37.019 --> 00:56:39.500 to access the daily prayer from John Eldredge 00:56:39.500 --> 00:56:43.039 because it's so stinking good. It's just recorded. 00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:47.920 So I do access some helps, things that enhance 00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:53.800 my morning time, but I'm finding that I'm opening 00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:57.519 my computer later and later in the morning. And 00:56:57.519 --> 00:56:59.360 sometimes I'm even late getting things out because 00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:01.360 I'm like, I just didn't want to open it yet because 00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:03.699 I'm enjoying my fellowship. You know what? You 00:57:03.699 --> 00:57:05.619 can even, you can just delete those apps from 00:57:05.619 --> 00:57:07.800 your phone and see how you feel about it. I bet 00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:11.519 you people immediately feel. Oh yeah. Yeah. Anxious. 00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:13.019 Like when you leave your phone somewhere. You 00:57:13.019 --> 00:57:14.980 can reinstall and log in again. If you know, 00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:16.960 you can get your fix if you need to see what 00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:21.199 happens. Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff. We're not going 00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:23.960 to solve everything here. But we can talk about 00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:25.960 it. We can pontificate about it. We want people 00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:28.280 to keep coming back. Every episode, we'll get 00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:30.920 closer to the truth. We promise we will. Well, 00:57:31.260 --> 00:57:33.460 all we're doing is throwing out a cautionary 00:57:33.460 --> 00:57:36.760 flag. We're waving the caution flag at the Daytona 00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:39.679 500. There's something on the road. There's debris 00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:42.679 on the road. Just be careful. I'm not saying 00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:46.219 stop the race. Just be careful. Be mindful. Be 00:57:46.219 --> 00:57:52.219 wise. Go to your Bible before screens, Scripture 00:57:52.219 --> 00:57:55.400 before screens. Keep it simple. Allow yourself 00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:58.260 to get bored and don't worry. I've been practicing 00:57:58.260 --> 00:58:02.000 this, by the way, of not reaching for my phone 00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:04.000 when I'm feeling that first inclination. You 00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:05.820 have to really be intentional about that, by 00:58:05.820 --> 00:58:09.719 the way, because there is that sense of… I don't 00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:13.159 have my vibrator vibration on, but Annette does. 00:58:13.260 --> 00:58:15.000 So I'll hear her phone go off and I'll reach 00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:20.099 for mine. I mean, it's such a trigger. I'm just 00:58:20.099 --> 00:58:22.380 reaching for it like a dog going for a treat. 00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:26.739 Here's what I'm going to try this week. Whenever 00:58:26.739 --> 00:58:29.679 I'm bored, I'm going to focus on somebody. So 00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:31.599 if it's home, that's going to be easy. Focus 00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:34.599 on my beautiful wife. If I'm out somewhere, I'll 00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:37.780 just focus on a person walking or someone in 00:58:37.780 --> 00:58:41.670 the... in HEB or just focused on smiling at somebody. 00:58:42.150 --> 00:58:45.130 And there's that creepy VJ guy again. He's smiling 00:58:45.130 --> 00:58:48.110 at everybody. That guy's weird. That's what I'm 00:58:48.110 --> 00:58:50.610 going to try this week. Wow. Good for you. So 00:58:50.610 --> 00:58:53.530 I'm going to, what I'm doing, I noticed I'm finishing 00:58:53.530 --> 00:58:55.409 my morning time a little earlier because I'm 00:58:55.409 --> 00:58:58.670 getting up at 530. Instead of just sitting there 00:58:58.670 --> 00:59:01.170 checking comments, you know, as the morning ticks 00:59:01.170 --> 00:59:03.469 off, I'm just going to get up and go wherever 00:59:03.469 --> 00:59:05.610 our net's at. Yeah. Yeah. What are you doing? 00:59:05.809 --> 00:59:07.510 She'll be in here going, what are you doing here? 00:59:07.789 --> 00:59:10.690 She'd be shocked. I walked in five minutes earlier. 00:59:10.929 --> 00:59:15.530 What happened? Is everything okay? No, no, I'm 00:59:15.530 --> 00:59:21.190 just bored. There it is. I'm just bored. Be bored 00:59:21.190 --> 00:59:23.849 with us, please join us next week. We'll be back. 00:59:24.170 --> 00:59:26.750 We get to do this and man, do we love it.