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Father, we honor you and bless you today. Thank

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you for a new day. Thank you that we get to do

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this, not just as a slogan or a title, but as

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a mantra, as a call, as a declaration over our

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lives. We thank you for the privilege of this.

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Father, for those listening, our prayer is they

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will live up in a down world. They will fight

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the good fight of faith. They will stand. They

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will rise up and they'll speak the truth in love

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and because of love. So Lord, today we give this

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to you. We let go of it and take our hands off

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of it and ask you to speak through us in Jesus

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name. Amen. Amen It's Wednesday, November 19th

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2025 we get to do this. This is episode number

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11 We get to do this. Yes, we do. I can't sing.

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Well, you're under the weather. I usually can.

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My voice is very unnaturally low right now. I

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had to kind of not focus on your voice during

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the prayer. I'm like, wow, that's a great radio

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voice he's got there. I'm sorry, Lord, I'm back

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with you. It's like the night time guy, you know,

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playing the solo. Dr. Johnny Fever, everybody.

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WKRP Cincinnati. That's what it feels like. How

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you doing, brother? I'm doing better. I'm drinking

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my... third or fourth cup of coffee. I actually

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ate a donut, just for some energy. I was thinking,

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whatever works. So the donut was from our, is

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this a monthly thing that we do now? The Devo's

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and Donuts? So they do two different things.

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So Devo's and Donuts is an outreach from our

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church, our student ministry, to the middle school.

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They'll do that once a month and then to the

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high school once a month. And this morning was

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the middle school. We prayed away the rain because

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there was chances of rain this morning, so we

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asked the Lord to part the clouds and He did.

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And then they had their largest group ever show

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up. They had 379 students show up. That's a lot

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of donuts. That is a lot of donuts. When I went

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through the kitchen, I was going to get an ibuprofen

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because I just have a headache. Allergy stuff

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going on rather than rare for me. That's like

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a Penske truck full of doughnuts I mean, that's

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what I was so here's what I was thinking. I'm

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thinking I'm gonna go through the kitchen I don't

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usually eat doughnuts and stuff like that But

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I'm like today when I feel like I'll take anything

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that'll give me a temporary energy boost of energy

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Yeah, so I went through the kitchen. There was

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only three doughnuts left three Wow I'm assuming

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they left some with the teachers and stuff because

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they typically do that in the faculty if there's

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any left over, which I'm assuming there were

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some, but yeah, that's the largest group they've

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ever had. These are students that come out, they

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get a doughnut. They usually get a little value

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something like a little cross or a reminder.

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They can take back in school, a little Jesus,

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you know, the little little Jesus everywhere.

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So many of those around everywhere. Literally.

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Yeah. It's a little weird because you'll be doing

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something. Look over and he's looking at me.

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You know, it's right there. He's up on a ledge

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right there at the restaurant or something. He's

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in my car, the dashboard. I've got them all over

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my house. So anyway, they do stuff like that.

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And then the teachers always report back to us,

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to our team. Saying is these are the best days

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we've ever had whenever you guys come we have

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the best days. Yeah, there's less Behavioral

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issues. There's less fighting. There's just huh.

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It brings a calm place and They get they lead

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worship from a stage. We set up a temporary platform

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portable system Lead worship Jonah leading that

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Jonah from young faithful podcast cool. He's

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just getting better and better. Oh, yeah, it's

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only 14 He's practicing though. I see him practice

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all this. I know isn't it great. Mm -hmm And

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then either Naomi or a guest, I did it last year,

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Pastor Brian Haley, our student pastor, they'll

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bring about a 10 -minute gospel presentation.

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And every time students are like, yeah, I want

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Jesus. Every time. That's so cool. It's just

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wild. It's one of those things that this was

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something Naomi brought. She tried it once or

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twice, I think, in Nashville when they were living

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there. And then about the time it looked like

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it was about to take off there at their school,

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we brought them here. And then she said, hey,

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I've been sitting on this, but I think I'm supposed

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to do this here. So last year they started it

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and they just had their biggest group ever. What

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they're doing though, it's building it because

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they're there consistently. The teachers know

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who they are. The students know who they are.

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Now the students are like coming. They're like,

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okay. It's become a thing. It is. Yeah. And I

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think this is the third time we're talking about

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it on this podcast. So that's good news for us.

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We're still here. We have not faded. No, we're

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still in man. I'm all in. I get excited about

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this. Even though I never felt great. I woke

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up feeling really good yesterday. You said you

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had like a allergy. So what happens, my eyes

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just start to Just start to drain and drain and

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drain right that gets into my sinuses and then

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last night shoot My left ear just closes up got

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a little ringing little tinnitus going on it,

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which is the official pronunciation everybody

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I know I keep correcting people they look at

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me like I'm I gave up, I gave up, tinnitus. You

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might as well just say tinnitus or whatever.

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Go with the flow. And it was just ringing and

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then not like really bad, but closed up and you

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kind of want to like hold your nose and blow

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your ears out. And it really just, you know,

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the other one goes, you know, and then I can't

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understand Tina, especially if she's turned away

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from me. I'm like, oh Lord, why, why, why, why?

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I feel like I'm in a tunnel. And that the sound

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like I'm not hearing right. It's like the sound

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is it's a little better now I've got the cans

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on but before we put these on I'm like This by

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the way is my secret strange my secret is if

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this hat whenever this happens to me I'll either

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go into the studio put Headphones on talk and

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then play some music or put my ear. I got my

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earbuds with me I'll put them in if you just

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put one in It sounds like a broken speaker, but

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then you put the other one in and then your brain

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starts to change and adjust it. Yeah, that really

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does help. You know what this is? Old man problems,

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brother. No kidding, man. Let me tell you about

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my right knee. Yeah, brother. It's a little stove

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up. God the world and other things on this broadcast.

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If you are listening to this anywhere, consider

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getting the Godcaster app. and just go to Bridge

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Church and you'll find our podcasts and other

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podcasts and lots of live streams. Hello, Fred.

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There's more and more coming each day. And I

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wanted to thank you so much because your message

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on Sunday was... Thanks, brother. I mean, I think

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I even texted you like, brother, I needed to

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hear this. You did. Thank you. Do you get those

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on the pulpit on the stage? I do. He pops up

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in my little banner at the top and I'm like,

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I'm on the fly. I should probably time it better.

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There it is. Yes. I can watch it live. Watch

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and pause. What's a pause? Thank you. But it

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was delayed does not mean denial. And wow, this

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was so good. And it's kind of come up in our

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Wednesday night, walking with Jesus discipleship

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journey. how some people have prayed for their

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prodigal wayward children or grandchildren for

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20 years, and then they come to Jesus. But it's

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not just people coming to Jesus, it's just things

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that we pray for, things that we want, that we,

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I guess, hope for or pray for. For me this I

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have so many things I'm praying for like so many

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things I want to happen like God I think I'm

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doing what you want me to do them I think I've

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heard the call and I know where you want me to

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go and give me a sign show me something And we

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all, it's so easy to say in God's perfect, His

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perfect timing, but His perfect timing can take

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a little bit. And you really, really laid that

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out in a beautiful way. And I encourage everybody

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to go watch it. The most recent messages are

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also in the Godcast wrap. It's actually fun to

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listen to it. I love listening to it more than

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I enjoy watching it, you know, like on a replay

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of the video. Just put it in the car and you're

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so much more aware of the acoustics of what people

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are, you know, the amens and the, come on now,

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you know, hey preacher, I love that. Is that

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Mel who does that? Probably. Come on preacher.

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It could be anybody. But yeah, I would say more

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than likely Mel. I get mailed every week. Maybe

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just for the people who might need to hear this

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now, just give a little replay of that because

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it was just spot -on, man. So kind of the main

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idea of this is basically this, God's timing

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isn't about our convenience. It's about His glory

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and our growth. Another way to say it is when

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He seems late, He's setting up something greater

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than you imagined. And I quoted an old pastor

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that I heard many, many years ago who used to

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say this, And I just totally, I don't even, I

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shouldn't even quote him now. I should, I've

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said it so many times, but this setback, the

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setbacks that come are actually a setup for a

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God kind of comeback. And a lot of times we get

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caught in that setback mode and the setup hasn't

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appeared yet. And so we're praying and it feels

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like God's just delaying, like there's nothing

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happening. And so I just talked about the dynamics

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that when we think nothing is happening, something

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is happening. I told the story about going to

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the beach as a West Texas boy, not having a clue,

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hopping out in the water, riptide. I looked up.

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I'm a mile from where I started. I didn't even

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realize I was moving. But that's the same way.

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You can't see a riptide. It's just happening

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below the surface. And God's constantly working.

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And so His delays feel like, here's a great scripture

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on that, Galatians 6, 9, let us not become weary

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in doing good for at the proper time, and there

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it is, the proper time, we will reap a harvest,

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and then here's the other big part of that, if

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we do not give up. And we so often give up right

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before we cross the goal line, you know, we get

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the touchdown. It's just because we get tired

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and we feel like God's not hearing us, or maybe

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it was a no, but what I found It's rarely a no,

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it's typically a not now. How do you know if

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it's not a no? I mean, this is, I know it's a

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pretty loaded question. It is. I can give you

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a short answer. Okay, I'll take it. Because when

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we are in alignment with His Word, that means

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we're in alignment with His ways, which means

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we're in alignment with His will. His will, His

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ways, His Word. All that's interconnected. And

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so, I rarely pray about things that I don't believe

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I've got the Word on, so to speak. And I don't

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ask for a lot anymore. I just pray really different

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than I used to. It's mostly gratitude, honestly.

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I'm a broken record. Here I am, Lord. Thank you.

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Thank you for not answering that prayer, the

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silly one I asked. So I'm very careful to make

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sure that if I'm asking or declaring, or confessing

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something that it's based out of God's Word.

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So there are a lot of situations that happen

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that you might not be able to just put a template

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of God's Word over, but you kind of can if you

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think about it. You have to think logically.

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It comes back to, you know, part of making disciples

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is really learning to think like Jesus thinks

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and be in alignment with that. And so, you know,

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we asked the question, what would Jesus do, right?

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We've talked about that. It's the same thing.

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If I'm praying for something that I think is

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in no way in alignment with what I think Jesus

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would do or care about, I just don't. I don't

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have big expectations over it. But the kind of

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things I pray for are for someone I know to come

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to Christ. Do I believe that's in God's will?

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Do I believe it's His Word? Do I believe that's

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something that is about His ways around that?

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Absolutely. So I can pray for that with great

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confidence. Now, if it's taking a long time,

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then I have to trust that this delay is for a

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reason. So a lot of us live not in the know,

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but we live in the not now because of this delay.

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And, you know, with God, thousand years is as

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a day, days is as thousand years. That's what

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people don't realize. It's hard because we're

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so temporally oriented. I mean, I was talking

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about AI, you know, it took three seconds to

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get an answer. I was like, what is going on with

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this thing? By the way, just bogging down on

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a little separate track on the it's amazing.

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Any of this stuff works at all. True. I believe

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that the world goes from. centralization to decentralization

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and back again. And it's not just technology.

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It's, it's, it's all kinds of churches. I think,

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you know, you get mega churches and then you

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get a lot of smaller churches. You just, this

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always seems to be the case, but in computing,

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you can see it really, really well. Excuse me.

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We had such a good example of centralization

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awareness this past week. If you were using Chad

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GPT, if you were using X, if you were using My

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Lord, I can give you so many examples. Just go

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to downdetector .com and you can see it. Cloudflare

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had a bug. And conservatively, 20 % of all major

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services use Cloudflare. We use it for the podcast

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index and for Godcaster. And that went down and

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just, it was like, it was this perfect moment

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where I just wanted, I couldn't because there

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was nothing, no communications really. I wanted

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to yell, grab your box. do something else with

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your time, stop refreshing, stop it, stop it.

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And just like, come on people. So these are lessons

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we're gonna start implementing. We're gonna start,

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I think you'll see it with podcasts too. It's

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built decentralized by nature, but people still

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kind of think, well, I've gotta be here, gotta

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be there. No, no, no, don't worry about all that.

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Don't worry about it. And I think everything,

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is we're coming to a point where it's all going

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to have to flow back. But coming back to what

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you were talking about, and I had written down

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the setback is the setup for the comeback. That

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hit me real hard. And Romans 8 .28, you know,

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for God makes all things work together for good.

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I think you said, you know, you're here. Well,

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I wish I had made clips of it. But the whole

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idea is that sometimes you're ready, but the

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other pieces aren't in place. The other people

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aren't in place yet. And for me, it's really

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helpful when I look at it that way. It's like,

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OK, I know I'm ready, but these two people over

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here, that organization that has five people

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in it, they've all got to be brought into alignment,

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and then things will start to happen. Well said.

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And the way I say that, and I always use this

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simple illustration uses of a thermostat. You

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go set the thermostat, the temperature. You're

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already there, right? In your mind, you're like,

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okay, I've set this to 68. But it's foolish to

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think in five minutes or in 20 seconds, it's

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going to automatically be there. The system has

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to go to work. And you think about all the moving

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parts of HVAC. systems or just Preheating your

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oven, you know, that's another set of 375 and

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then you throw your stuff in there and you're

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mad at when it didn't come out done in six minutes

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It's it's like what's going on here same way

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with microwave popcorn, you know It used to take

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eight minutes now It takes three and a half and

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we're upset because it shouldn't take that long

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It's it's so relative and like you said we we

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we've ebb and flow on expectations with this

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stuff I think AI has created such an expectation

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for instantaneous, massive knowledge. There's

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a new version coming out. And this is actually

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Grok, but don't worry, everyone will be doing

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it. We're excited to introduce Grok 4 .1, which

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brings significant improvements to the real -world

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usability of Grok. Get ready. Our 4 .1 model

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is exceptionally capable in creative, emotional,

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and collaborative interactions. It is more perceptive

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to nuanced intent, compelling to speak with,

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and coherent in personality. So these are the

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things, and you can look at their website, they

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give you examples of how it used to answer you

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and how it answers you now. And all they're doing

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is fine tuning the human portion of it. We've

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had these ongoing conversations. And there is

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so much usefulness in this while it still lasts

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because just look at what the markets are saying.

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It's definitely wobbly around who's really paying

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for all this stuff. So enjoy while you can. And

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I also think that will decentralize. We may have

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a large language model for our church in the

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near future that our church uses and that is

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not connected to anything else. And it may cost

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us $10 ,000. I'm just throwing a number out there.

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Could be four. But then we could all use it.

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And we wouldn't be beholden to things going down

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or being corrupted, et cetera. But the talking

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to the AI, this is the only thing that I really

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want to warn people for. Stop talking to it.

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You've been pre -programmed. We've all been pre

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-programmed for decades and decades and decades

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of entertainment and culture and film and television.

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Don't talk to it. Treat it just like a computer.

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and just say, give me this. Don't say, would

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you please? Thank you very much. But it's built

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in. They do that purposefully. It's built in

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for you to use those common kind of human words

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to get attention where it could just be like,

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computer. It could be that, but it's not that.

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And you can't change that, by the way. So that's

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all I just want to say that this is coming at

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us. from all directions. And you know, I'm, I

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love looking at, we're just talking with Tina

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about what the, what her text groups are sending

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her. And of course, you know, Oh, look, I'm Chinese

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woman got married to her AI. Very extreme, extreme,

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but you know, still. I didn't hear that one.

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People are surprised by this. They're like, wow,

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that's really happening? Yeah, it's really happening.

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There's a lot of lonely people out there. That's

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true. And now more than ever, we got to find

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them, recognize them, grab them, sit them down,

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have coffee with them, play chess with them,

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do whatever we can to lonely people. Because

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this will create more isolation. If I don't need

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another human being, I was already lonely to

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begin with. Now I really don't need them because

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I've got a replacement. And I think it's... Ooh,

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that's scary. And it's young men, it's young

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women who don't know how to... I've been getting

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an education on dating these days. No kidding.

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I saw a stat of how many young men in Gen Z have

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never actually engaged with a female. Yeah. Remember

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us? Remember the trial by fire? Do you want to

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go out? Would you ever go out with me? I mean,

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the awkwardness. I like your dress. I like those

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shoes. It's so awkward, but it trained us. It

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trained us how to engage and how to talk and

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how to, and we got better at it. Some of us got

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too good at it. We're being stupid with it. But

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you know what I'm saying? That was part of a,

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that was a rite of passage. for our generation,

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and now you've got guys that are in their 30s

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that have never engaged a female, except for

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online. Exactly. Which is why you see so much

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success with Gen Z, younger generation, who are

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going to church. Because this is where you have

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interaction with humanoids. Pendulum is swinging

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again. It is. Or decentralizing, so to speak,

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as you use. That's a different way to say it.

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But to me, it's the pendulum swing back to, it's

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kind of what happened with music. I mean, the

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grunge of the nineties. They were like, we got

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to get back to real music. They trashed all their

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processors and went right back to old vintage

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amps and old guitars. The older than beat up,

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the better. That was their way of saying, we

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got to get back to something that's real. Because

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there was this massive pendulum. We see this

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in every arena of life. And so the big concern

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for me, as with you, is this hyper isolation

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that, wow, I don't need another human being.

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I definitely don't need a church or a group or

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a community because I've got whatever. Name your,

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pick your AI. And you'd be surprised. There are

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young people listening to this podcast. Because

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they want to hear their their uncles talk about

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the good old times believe it or not. It's really

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true pastor Jimmy It's really really true that

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there they are listening. They're hungry for

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it They it's like why can't we have this you

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can and yeah all that and then some man You know

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You were raised in a village. I mean a sense.

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I mean yes where everybody If your parents didn't

00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:10.420
know you got in trouble, somebody else did, and

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then they got back to your parents. I live in

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a town like that. I couldn't get away with anything.

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The police would call my dad because my dad was

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a firefighter. They had this bond, this thing.

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I saw your kid doing donuts in the band parking

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lot in his super sport. We had one cop in the

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village and he had a Honda 250 motorcycle and

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he had a big mustache and everyone knew him and

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he would do the same thing. He would just go

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over and ring the bell and say, hey man. Take

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me to jail please, it would be a lot better than

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what I'm going to face. It's different days,

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right? really, really good. The two things that

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I want to bring up today, one, I have some clips

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of the second one, but the first one, I keep

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hearing more and more and more, since we talked

00:23:06.369 --> 00:23:08.950
about in the last episode, you know, the mark

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of the beast, we're in the end times and whenever,

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and this is, people love sending this to their

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friends, on the text groups, it's everywhere

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on social media. Now, the way I look at it, we

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have the tribulation seven years, but there's

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a pre -tribulation rapture. So first of all,

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I'm not that worried. If the mark of the beast

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is apparently here, then how come I'm still here?

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You know, it's like, what can we give people

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just to simmer down and not worry about it? Because

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it's all, it all comes back to AI. It all comes

00:23:46.930 --> 00:23:50.690
back to crypto. And I'm just not convinced that

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any of that is really what we're seeing right

00:23:53.150 --> 00:23:55.650
now, nor should we even worry about it, because

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even Jesus didn't know any of this stuff. Well,

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there's three nuanced views, and then there's

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another view called preterism. And preterism

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means that everything that had to do with the

00:24:06.730 --> 00:24:08.730
prophetic things of the end times has already

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happened. The fall of the temple in 70 AD, that

00:24:12.930 --> 00:24:14.910
was... That was what they were talking about.

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Preterism can be blown out of the water very

00:24:17.029 --> 00:24:20.349
quickly. It doesn't line up. But there are people

00:24:20.349 --> 00:24:22.329
who believe it, that, oh, no, that's all happened.

00:24:22.490 --> 00:24:24.170
Well, then why are we still here? And what's

00:24:24.170 --> 00:24:27.769
the point? So you've got pre -trib rapture. That's

00:24:27.769 --> 00:24:30.730
where people, and you can find scriptures that

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absolutely substantiate. You have mid -trib rapture.

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There's just things where God didn't make it

00:24:38.670 --> 00:24:42.670
so clear. He made it just ambiguous enough that

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we would be so dependent on him. Thank you. At

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the end of the day. That is the answer I was

00:24:48.089 --> 00:24:50.910
looking for. So pick your theologian, pick your

00:24:50.910 --> 00:24:53.750
eschatology guy, because eschatology is what

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it's called. It's the study of the end times.

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And man, I pray like we're going to be through

00:25:02.569 --> 00:25:05.609
the tribulation. I prepare my heart and my mind

00:25:05.609 --> 00:25:09.259
to endure to the end no matter what. But I hope

00:25:09.259 --> 00:25:13.019
and believe, I pray like it's going to be at

00:25:13.019 --> 00:25:16.039
the end, like a post -tribulation rapture that

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means we got to go through some stuff. But in

00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:22.279
my mind, I'm hoping the pre -guys are right.

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I'm ready to go up. I mean, whenever. So to me,

00:25:25.859 --> 00:25:30.440
it's like, if Jesus didn't know, he was just

00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:33.539
straight up. He's the son of man and the son

00:25:33.539 --> 00:25:36.460
of God. And yet he doesn't know. He says, I don't

00:25:36.460 --> 00:25:39.529
even know the times. So why are we trying to

00:25:39.529 --> 00:25:42.029
blow our minds figured it out? Well, you just

00:25:42.029 --> 00:25:47.869
gave the key to it. It was purposely made ambiguous

00:25:47.869 --> 00:25:50.970
when this is going to happen so that we couldn't

00:25:50.970 --> 00:25:53.470
know and, oh, I have to worry now. I'll prepare

00:25:53.470 --> 00:25:57.289
later on. It'll be good then. Right. That makes

00:25:57.289 --> 00:25:59.930
so much sense that God just said, you know what?

00:26:01.230 --> 00:26:05.440
Don't stop praying. But you're not going to know

00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:07.180
exactly when this is going to happen. And I'm

00:26:07.180 --> 00:26:09.559
not making it clear to you so that you won't

00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:13.480
sit there and figure it out. But brother, there's

00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:16.059
a lot of people out there who are convinced and

00:26:16.059 --> 00:26:18.880
will tell you. And there's podcasts and radio

00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:23.259
shows and people I like. Good people. These are

00:26:23.259 --> 00:26:26.220
not bad people. These are just people that that

00:26:26.220 --> 00:26:30.960
think they got a figured something out. It depends

00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:32.779
on which calendar you're looking at. I mean,

00:26:32.940 --> 00:26:37.160
there's so many calendars. It's just, God, I

00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:40.299
don't think He's doing it on our calendar situation.

00:26:40.660 --> 00:26:42.039
You know, you've got the Jewish calendar. I've

00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:45.880
got all those. So anyway, I don't get real spun

00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:48.059
up about any of this stuff. Here's the thing.

00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:50.400
I know we're one week closer than we were last

00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:54.039
week that we sat here. That's it. We're closer

00:26:54.039 --> 00:26:57.480
to whatever that is. But here's the thing. Let's

00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:00.400
take it back a step. What's critical is that

00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:03.779
you live each day like it could happen. Are you

00:27:03.779 --> 00:27:07.259
doing today what you would want to be found doing

00:27:07.259 --> 00:27:12.480
by Him when it comes? That's it. It's very simple.

00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:18.960
If I'm about the Father's business and I'm doing

00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.440
the life, I'm in communion with Him in terms

00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:25.180
of just practicing His presence. talking to him

00:27:25.180 --> 00:27:28.380
all day long about different things. I'm reaching

00:27:28.380 --> 00:27:31.740
out to friends. I'm continuing to do the work

00:27:31.740 --> 00:27:35.720
he's called me to do. And if I'm doing that,

00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:38.759
then the day or the hour is not going to matter

00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:42.220
to me. I have friends that get much more worked

00:27:42.220 --> 00:27:47.920
up about this stuff. We had a guy show up, wanted

00:27:47.920 --> 00:27:50.339
to meet with Pastor Brian because he liked 95

00:27:50.339 --> 00:27:53.910
% of his sermon. That's a compliment. Hey, I

00:27:53.910 --> 00:27:58.869
like 95 % on what you said today. I don't always

00:27:58.869 --> 00:28:02.309
agree with everything you say, but please don't,

00:28:02.309 --> 00:28:05.650
please don't agree with me. We even had a staff

00:28:05.650 --> 00:28:07.029
member that would do that. Every time he'd try

00:28:07.029 --> 00:28:09.349
to give me a compliment, he would preface it

00:28:09.349 --> 00:28:11.369
with, you know, I don't agree with everything

00:28:11.369 --> 00:28:13.900
you're saying. I'm just like... And I'm supposed

00:28:13.900 --> 00:28:17.259
to feel good about this. Don't say anything if

00:28:17.259 --> 00:28:20.119
you can't say something weird. He's no longer

00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:25.460
with us. So he needed to move on. But anyway,

00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:31.400
so this idea that, oh, this guy, 95%, I liked,

00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.599
I agreed with 95 % of your sermon. Brian's like,

00:28:34.740 --> 00:28:37.740
okay. And he goes, can we meet to talk about

00:28:37.740 --> 00:28:41.390
the 5 %? And so they met. guy brought him a 20

00:28:41.390 --> 00:28:46.710
page document that he had written on why he believed,

00:28:46.730 --> 00:28:49.069
think of what the actual issue was. This was

00:28:49.069 --> 00:28:52.170
so funny about it. What it had to do with, oh,

00:28:52.230 --> 00:28:53.569
can't pull it out of thin air. This is where

00:28:53.569 --> 00:28:55.789
you need a net to jump in and say, who is this?

00:28:56.089 --> 00:28:58.670
Yeah, but it was like five, you know, the one

00:28:58.670 --> 00:29:01.269
thing he, oh, it was with replacement theology.

00:29:01.589 --> 00:29:04.150
Oh, okay. Our support of Israel. He does not

00:29:04.150 --> 00:29:07.230
believe, he said the church, is the new Israel.

00:29:07.430 --> 00:29:11.569
The church has replaced. Well, let's go over

00:29:11.569 --> 00:29:15.089
to Romans chapter 10 and 11. Let's see. We were

00:29:15.089 --> 00:29:18.769
grafted in to the olive branch, which is not

00:29:18.769 --> 00:29:21.509
the vine. It's the branch. We're not even grafted

00:29:21.509 --> 00:29:23.289
into the vine. We're grafted into the branch,

00:29:23.430 --> 00:29:27.170
which is Israel. It's clear. There's no doubt

00:29:27.170 --> 00:29:29.210
that the olive branch. But hey, man, this was

00:29:29.210 --> 00:29:31.750
the Schofield Bible that confused everybody.

00:29:32.549 --> 00:29:35.880
And it did. And I had one for years in the early

00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:39.039
days, because it was one of the first commentary

00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:42.980
Bibles that had notes in it. And it hijacked

00:29:42.980 --> 00:29:46.259
a lot of theology. It was still the Bible that

00:29:46.259 --> 00:29:48.579
they printed. It was just all of their interpretation.

00:29:49.579 --> 00:29:51.680
His interpretation. But people don't even realize

00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:54.220
that. They think that's in there, that's the

00:29:54.220 --> 00:29:56.440
Bible. Well, they thought what I hear people

00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:58.019
who've never looked at it maybe never looked

00:29:58.019 --> 00:30:01.289
at a Bible. They'll say, well, no, it was all

00:30:01.289 --> 00:30:04.190
change in the Schofield Bible. No, the words

00:30:04.190 --> 00:30:06.829
of the Bible, the scripture were there. It's

00:30:06.829 --> 00:30:10.849
the interpretation. It's commentary. Yeah. It's

00:30:10.849 --> 00:30:13.930
tiring sometimes. At some point, we have to sort

00:30:13.930 --> 00:30:16.849
of push back from the table and say, all right,

00:30:16.849 --> 00:30:20.130
Lord, I'm going to come back to you with a childlike

00:30:20.130 --> 00:30:24.589
faith. I trust you. I do not have this all figured

00:30:24.589 --> 00:30:27.390
out. And I'll be real with you and whoever's

00:30:27.390 --> 00:30:30.680
listening. The older I get, the less I really

00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:35.180
know. I have more questions than answers the

00:30:35.180 --> 00:30:37.779
older I get. And they're not bad. Nothing's bad

00:30:37.779 --> 00:30:42.779
about that. I'm more rested in Him. The thing

00:30:42.779 --> 00:30:46.519
I do know and trust is His sovereignty. He really

00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:50.240
is in control. Nothing catches Him off guard.

00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:54.400
This is what I've realized from... I'm almost

00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:58.980
a year now, so I'm starting to reread Every daily

00:30:58.980 --> 00:31:01.880
chapter every daily page of Oswald Chambers my

00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:05.279
utmost first highest and that's basically that's

00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:08.900
his his message over and over again is He's got

00:31:08.900 --> 00:31:13.400
this he's in control Give up Stop trying to stop

00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:16.779
trying to do just give it up give it over and

00:31:16.779 --> 00:31:18.920
he just does it in different ways Yes, and but

00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.400
it's one of my favorite Devotional is it a devotional?

00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.759
I guess it is so good, but it's all it is kind

00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.829
of the same and it took me at least half a year

00:31:28.829 --> 00:31:31.509
to kind of get into it. Because I'm like, man,

00:31:31.609 --> 00:31:34.890
you're depressing me, Oswald. Why am I not happy

00:31:34.890 --> 00:31:36.529
about what I'm reading here? But think about

00:31:36.529 --> 00:31:38.089
when he was writing a lot of that was during

00:31:38.089 --> 00:31:39.250
World War II and he was in the desert. Was it

00:31:39.250 --> 00:31:42.250
World War II or World War I? 44. Oh yeah, two.

00:31:42.650 --> 00:31:46.910
Okay. So he died young. He died at the age of

00:31:46.910 --> 00:31:50.890
43, 44. Right. And he was serving in Egypt in

00:31:50.890 --> 00:31:54.309
the desert with the British armies as a chaplain.

00:31:54.470 --> 00:31:57.210
Yes. and he was preaching all of his sermons.

00:31:57.329 --> 00:32:00.890
His wife, being a court stenographer by trade,

00:32:01.430 --> 00:32:03.529
was taking copious notes. Isn't that beautiful?

00:32:03.910 --> 00:32:07.289
I love that. So what we're getting is spot on.

00:32:08.410 --> 00:32:11.190
So good stuff. But you have to understand those

00:32:11.190 --> 00:32:13.869
times are influencing his writing. So he was

00:32:13.869 --> 00:32:16.029
speaking to soldiers and guys that were coming

00:32:16.029 --> 00:32:18.789
off the lines. So that's why it's so heavy and

00:32:18.789 --> 00:32:25.809
so intense. So I guess that for me, knowing because

00:32:25.809 --> 00:32:28.690
this comes right back to scripture and understanding

00:32:28.690 --> 00:32:33.450
of God and what He's doing. When the internet

00:32:33.450 --> 00:32:36.569
really started to have an impact, and now we're

00:32:36.569 --> 00:32:38.609
talking mid -90s, but really a little bit later

00:32:38.609 --> 00:32:41.849
than that, people were saying, this is great.

00:32:42.450 --> 00:32:45.130
The media won't have control over us. We have

00:32:45.130 --> 00:32:50.349
freedom of speech. Yes, but it actually made

00:32:50.349 --> 00:32:58.099
it easier. for governments and entities to exhibit,

00:32:58.460 --> 00:33:03.819
exert mind control, psyops. Absolutely. Move

00:33:03.819 --> 00:33:06.539
people in certain directions. The amount of bots,

00:33:07.059 --> 00:33:09.759
I mean, it's really incredible. And they're pretty

00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:13.440
sophisticated. I miss it all the time. You know,

00:33:13.500 --> 00:33:15.720
I'm like, where's this coming from? And if you

00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:18.750
see someone... who's been a member of a social

00:33:18.750 --> 00:33:23.109
media network since 2014, has no followers, bot,

00:33:23.269 --> 00:33:25.710
okay? Bot. And the last four digits of their

00:33:25.710 --> 00:33:27.490
name is a number. There's that. Yeah, there's

00:33:27.490 --> 00:33:31.589
a lot of that. But so what you're just saying

00:33:31.589 --> 00:33:35.410
about Israel and, you know, and that theory.

00:33:36.109 --> 00:33:41.430
So within the period of a month, we have gone

00:33:41.430 --> 00:33:50.069
from Epstein, Mossad, Israel, A pack. Zionist,

00:33:50.230 --> 00:33:53.490
Zionist. That is almost dropped off a cliff.

00:33:53.509 --> 00:33:56.029
We have a little bump right now with with Epstein,

00:33:56.230 --> 00:33:59.410
which as predict as was completely predictable,

00:33:59.410 --> 00:34:03.150
like, OK, we don't actually see anything. All

00:34:03.150 --> 00:34:06.329
right. We'll see what comes out. And just as

00:34:06.329 --> 00:34:09.010
I predicted, President Trump flips on a dime.

00:34:09.150 --> 00:34:11.429
All right. Release it all. It's too early because

00:34:11.429 --> 00:34:15.190
he's a political guy. He wanted to hold it back

00:34:15.190 --> 00:34:18.079
until the midterms. Everything you are seeing

00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:20.980
right now, if there's any political tincture

00:34:20.980 --> 00:34:24.599
to it, it's political, and it's all about the

00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:28.019
midterms. No doubt. And the one that has come

00:34:28.019 --> 00:34:30.199
around, I've been doing this for a long time,

00:34:30.219 --> 00:34:34.079
so I'm going to take us around and show you what

00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:36.739
is old is new again. Where have I heard that?

00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:39.420
Or nothing under the sun is new. There it is.

00:34:39.739 --> 00:34:44.840
And this is the incessant social media sharing

00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:48.840
of The Muslims are taking over. We're all going

00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:51.940
to be—it's Sharia law, Islam, everything—ah,

00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:56.099
hair on fire! Literally, I'm seeing there are

00:34:56.099 --> 00:34:59.300
42 mosques opened in Texas in the past two years.

00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:03.659
Absolutely not true, but that map is convincing

00:35:03.659 --> 00:35:06.440
where you see all these things pop up. Whenever

00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:11.920
you see a social media post that has a screenshot

00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:16.590
of some proof, but no link or even a mention

00:35:16.590 --> 00:35:20.070
of where you can find this. Please, antennas

00:35:20.070 --> 00:35:24.710
up, antennas up. And this is 100 % political

00:35:24.710 --> 00:35:28.570
because now we're supposed to be afraid of the

00:35:28.570 --> 00:35:31.550
Muslims. And I want to talk with you about Muslims

00:35:31.550 --> 00:35:34.789
and Islam specifically. Just by starting it off,

00:35:35.210 --> 00:35:41.050
this is Rare, R -A -I -R. They are a anti -Islamic

00:35:41.050 --> 00:35:44.219
group. They're based in New York. have a pretty

00:35:44.219 --> 00:35:47.320
big social media presence, being shared a lot.

00:35:47.619 --> 00:35:50.840
And here's just an example of rare TV, by the

00:35:50.840 --> 00:36:08.760
way. They call themselves a TV station. By the

00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:11.539
way, I don't even know where she got that from,

00:36:11.539 --> 00:36:15.179
that the First Amendment protects Islam as a…what

00:36:15.179 --> 00:36:20.659
does she say here? That claim sounds… We expose

00:36:20.659 --> 00:36:23.820
a dangerous misconception spreading across America

00:36:23.820 --> 00:36:26.920
that the First Amendment protects Islam as a

00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:31.340
political system. That's not even factually true.

00:36:32.260 --> 00:36:37.079
And spreading across America, these are people

00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:40.809
doing subversive things. very subversive things.

00:36:41.050 --> 00:36:43.949
That claim sounds noble, until you understand

00:36:43.949 --> 00:36:46.809
what Islam's governing code, Sharia, actually

00:36:46.809 --> 00:36:50.230
is, and what the Constitution actually protects.

00:36:51.150 --> 00:36:53.809
The Constitution safeguards freedom of conscience,

00:36:54.329 --> 00:36:57.289
the individual's right to believe, pray and worship

00:36:57.289 --> 00:37:00.309
without coercion. It does not protect systems

00:37:00.309 --> 00:37:03.630
of government disguised as religion. Islam is

00:37:03.630 --> 00:37:05.809
not a religion. Islam is a system of governance.

00:37:06.309 --> 00:37:08.909
As a Muslim, we're supposed to see Islam as an

00:37:08.909 --> 00:37:12.010
alternative to all the different systems of governance

00:37:12.010 --> 00:37:13.929
today that are ruling the world. The laws of

00:37:13.929 --> 00:37:16.429
the land, the laws that should configure society

00:37:16.429 --> 00:37:19.329
should only come from Allah. If you do your job

00:37:19.329 --> 00:37:21.510
by basically being Allah SWT and give Allah's

00:37:21.510 --> 00:37:23.369
deen victory, then Allah will give you victory.

00:37:23.489 --> 00:37:25.630
This is the true meaning of Islam. It's not gonna

00:37:25.630 --> 00:37:28.530
come to us when we are not working actively towards

00:37:28.530 --> 00:37:31.309
it, period. Democracy is silly. It's the idea

00:37:31.309 --> 00:37:33.710
that human beings come up with the laws for their

00:37:33.710 --> 00:37:37.730
society. God, the creator of mankind, should

00:37:37.730 --> 00:37:40.050
legislate for mankind. And that's what the Qur

00:37:40.050 --> 00:37:42.269
'an is about. That's what Islam is about. That's

00:37:42.269 --> 00:37:44.090
what La Ilaha Illallah Muhammad Rasulullah is

00:37:44.090 --> 00:37:45.389
about. As Allah subhanahu wa ta 'ala says in

00:37:45.389 --> 00:37:47.610
the Qur 'an, إِنَ الْحُكْمُ وَإِنَّ اللَّهِ.

00:37:47.889 --> 00:37:50.110
Legislation is for God alone. So I want everyone

00:37:50.110 --> 00:37:52.550
to understand what you just witnessed. Now you

00:37:52.550 --> 00:37:54.889
didn't even see it, but sometimes not seeing

00:37:54.889 --> 00:37:58.880
it is better. You heard the music. There's all

00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:03.260
kinds of music that works on your nervous system.

00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:10.880
It's quick clips. Even the one about God having

00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:13.840
the ultimate rule over law is probably taken

00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:17.280
out of context. This is not me clipping it. This

00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:24.800
is what they do. This is not truthful. Islam,

00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:29.599
I know so many Muslims and all I can do for them

00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:34.239
is pray that they find Jesus. We are being moved

00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:38.159
once again to be afraid of a group of people,

00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:42.219
just like we have been told over the past three

00:38:42.219 --> 00:38:47.139
years to be afraid of Jews and Israelis and APAC

00:38:47.139 --> 00:38:51.900
and Zionists. Before I continue, your view on

00:38:51.900 --> 00:38:55.769
Islam and how we should even look at Muslims.

00:38:57.469 --> 00:38:59.769
First of all, we need to pray for them. Yes.

00:39:00.030 --> 00:39:04.130
We need to trust that the Lord wants them to

00:39:04.130 --> 00:39:06.489
come into a relationship with Jesus Christ and

00:39:06.489 --> 00:39:08.230
come to Him through Christ, because that is the

00:39:08.230 --> 00:39:10.849
only way. Jesus said, I am the way, the truth,

00:39:10.909 --> 00:39:13.090
and the life. No one comes to the Father except

00:39:13.090 --> 00:39:16.670
by me. So we know that to be true, John 14 .6.

00:39:17.429 --> 00:39:22.800
So I'm refusing to set my hair on fire. I want

00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:26.380
to keep it for one, but I just, I literally am

00:39:26.380 --> 00:39:28.599
not going to allow myself to get spun up on this.

00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:31.519
I want to be aware where I need to be aware.

00:39:32.139 --> 00:39:34.519
But because so many people have jumped on this

00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:37.579
bandwagon, it's caused me to take, it's given

00:39:37.579 --> 00:39:40.340
me pause. It's not making me want to run chase

00:39:40.340 --> 00:39:42.380
and start talking about this. It's actually making

00:39:42.380 --> 00:39:45.340
me take a step back to say, all right, I'm trying

00:39:45.340 --> 00:39:48.579
to listen to all these voices. I was just looking

00:39:48.579 --> 00:39:51.119
at a quote from Bill Fetter saying, Muhammad's

00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:54.360
three steps. were immigrate, increase, and eliminate.

00:39:56.219 --> 00:40:01.539
That was his way of spreading his version of

00:40:01.539 --> 00:40:05.980
the gospel. I'm seeing this everywhere right

00:40:05.980 --> 00:40:09.139
now. I'm seeing it from guys I like, but I'm

00:40:09.139 --> 00:40:12.119
not ready to run down that track yet because

00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:16.340
when we start picking up torches and pitchforks,

00:40:16.340 --> 00:40:19.800
we turn into the same mob mentality that crucified

00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:24.989
Jesus. crucify Him, crucify Him. Some commentators

00:40:24.989 --> 00:40:27.989
don't believe this is true. Some do that a lot

00:40:27.989 --> 00:40:30.449
of the people that were in that crowd were probably

00:40:30.449 --> 00:40:32.409
a lot of the same people that were laying down

00:40:32.409 --> 00:40:36.090
palm branches the week before and saying, Hosanna,

00:40:36.150 --> 00:40:40.329
Hosanna, King of glory. Now, I don't know if

00:40:40.329 --> 00:40:42.250
that's true. I don't know that you can know that

00:40:42.250 --> 00:40:45.869
honestly. Scripture doesn't give us enough to

00:40:45.869 --> 00:40:47.969
know if some of those were the same people, but

00:40:47.969 --> 00:40:52.070
knowing humanity and being around a little longer

00:40:52.070 --> 00:40:55.849
than a minute in this world, and seeing how quickly

00:40:55.849 --> 00:41:01.190
a mob can turn based on hearsay, based on perception,

00:41:01.510 --> 00:41:05.789
based on Psyop being driven by something, I could

00:41:05.789 --> 00:41:08.789
totally see that happening. So I'm going to cut

00:41:08.789 --> 00:41:11.210
through it right away and show the political

00:41:11.210 --> 00:41:14.269
part because this is what it's... all about,

00:41:14.349 --> 00:41:16.630
and when did this really start? When did it ratchet

00:41:16.630 --> 00:41:19.170
up? What was the political thing that happened

00:41:19.170 --> 00:41:23.369
in the United States where all of a sudden this

00:41:23.369 --> 00:41:28.130
started to become a thing? New York Mayor Mamdani.

00:41:28.409 --> 00:41:31.429
On rare TV, we are naming the threat plainly.

00:41:31.989 --> 00:41:34.929
Our enemies have placed a dangerous foreign infiltrator

00:41:34.929 --> 00:41:38.230
inside New York's government, and his name is

00:41:38.230 --> 00:41:42.670
Zoran Mamdani. a dangerous enemy, our adversary,

00:41:42.809 --> 00:41:44.730
she hasn't named them yet, we'll get to that,

00:41:45.449 --> 00:41:50.210
but this is, if this guy is anything, he's not

00:41:50.210 --> 00:41:53.929
really a Muslim. Socialist, Marxist, theater

00:41:53.929 --> 00:42:00.280
kid, actor, yes. A full on... Islamists? Jihadists?

00:42:00.619 --> 00:42:02.960
No. There's no evidence for that, but they're

00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:05.960
going to try and string it all together. And

00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.599
under federal law, he has been eligible to be

00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:11.599
stripped of his citizenship and deported. The

00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:14.179
question is, why is our government not acting?

00:42:14.590 --> 00:42:18.510
Mumdani became a U .S. citizen in 2018. Under

00:42:18.510 --> 00:42:21.949
federal law, specifically 8 U .S .C. Section

00:42:21.949 --> 00:42:26.349
1451A, citizenship can be revoked if it was obtained

00:42:26.349 --> 00:42:30.130
by concealment or misrepresentation, or if, within

00:42:30.130 --> 00:42:33.170
five years, the individual affiliates with communist,

00:42:33.389 --> 00:42:36.750
totalitarian, or terrorist movements. Mumdani

00:42:36.750 --> 00:42:40.369
did exactly that. He publicly defended the Holy

00:42:40.369 --> 00:42:44.940
Land Five. The men convicted on 108 counts of

00:42:44.940 --> 00:42:48.199
financing Hamas. No evidence of this. It's just

00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:51.719
a picture and they just say it. He is a card

00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:55.619
-carrying member of the DSA. The DSA is not a

00:42:55.619 --> 00:42:58.360
political organization, so there's no card to

00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:02.920
carry. They are just a nonprofit who go out and

00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:05.440
recruit people, train them, and then get them

00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:08.300
elected into office. card -carrying member. These

00:43:08.300 --> 00:43:10.659
are all very, very tricky words that are being

00:43:10.659 --> 00:43:13.820
used. Is it Muslim -based? No, no, it's socialist,

00:43:14.619 --> 00:43:18.480
complete socialist Marxists. They got AOC and

00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:22.099
she, you know, AOC auditioned. She literally

00:43:22.099 --> 00:43:25.480
auditioned for the role and then the DSA got

00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:28.119
her ready and wrote her scripts and everything.

00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:31.460
And now she's gotten really good at it. But this

00:43:31.460 --> 00:43:34.880
has nothing to do with Muslims. The largest Marxist

00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:38.199
operation in America, openly aligned with foreign

00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:42.400
communist parties in Cuba, Europe, Asia, Africa,

00:43:42.739 --> 00:43:45.820
and Latin America. He expressed allegiance to

00:43:45.820 --> 00:43:49.619
the Communist Party of India in 2020, well inside

00:43:49.619 --> 00:43:52.840
the five -year window. And he glorified Hamas's

00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:56.860
US finance arm in a 2017 recording before he

00:43:56.860 --> 00:43:59.030
took the oath of citizenship. Interestingly,

00:43:59.329 --> 00:44:01.829
no recording, don't play any of that. So they're

00:44:01.829 --> 00:44:04.849
just saying stuff. This is a political hit. This

00:44:04.849 --> 00:44:08.010
is a political hit job. And it's kind of working

00:44:08.010 --> 00:44:12.769
because now we see our own governor, Governor

00:44:12.769 --> 00:44:17.349
Abbott, taking action with a proclamation. Proclamations

00:44:17.349 --> 00:44:21.550
are just that. A proclamation is not law necessarily.

00:44:21.730 --> 00:44:23.730
He says, hey, we're taking a stand on something.

00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:27.940
And Governor Abbott is under severe attack by

00:44:27.940 --> 00:44:31.199
political foes who want him out. And that's why

00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:33.820
he's doing this. I don't believe he sees any

00:44:33.820 --> 00:44:37.219
horrible threat. I'm not convinced that this

00:44:37.219 --> 00:44:42.039
epic near Plano, Texas. I mean, the plans look

00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.280
good. It looks really vast on the AI rendering,

00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:48.980
but it's really just a mosque with a couple hundred

00:44:48.980 --> 00:44:52.579
Muslims who attended from around that area. But

00:44:52.579 --> 00:44:54.920
you'd think that they had a Disneyland installed

00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:57.380
that said Muslim land, the way people respond

00:44:57.380 --> 00:44:59.880
to it. Not saying we don't need to be aware,

00:45:00.179 --> 00:45:04.079
but this is politics, and this is about putting

00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:06.219
Abbott on notice, and he's responded. This is

00:45:06.219 --> 00:45:09.139
from CBS from yesterday. All right, let's stay

00:45:09.139 --> 00:45:11.599
in Texas because Governor Greg Abbott made news

00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:14.659
this morning by declaring two groups as foreign

00:45:14.659 --> 00:45:17.219
terrorist organizations. Let's go to our breaking

00:45:17.219 --> 00:45:19.380
news correspondent, Chanel Call, who's been following

00:45:19.380 --> 00:45:22.019
the story for us from the newsroom in New York.

00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:24.099
Chanel, what did the governor have to say today?

00:45:24.300 --> 00:45:25.659
And this is important because there are only

00:45:25.659 --> 00:45:28.360
two names you have to remember, CARE, C -A -I

00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:36.940
-R, the... Communist? No, no. the Center for

00:45:36.940 --> 00:45:41.239
American Islamic Relations, which basically Casey

00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:43.739
Kasem belonged to, just to put it into context,

00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:46.739
and the Muslim Brotherhood, which I will explain.

00:45:48.300 --> 00:45:51.500
Well, he made this announcement Mugo this morning

00:45:51.500 --> 00:45:55.179
through this proclamation Essentially now designating

00:45:55.179 --> 00:45:58.360
two groups the Muslim Brotherhood and the Council

00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:02.119
on American Islamic Relations as foreign terrorist

00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:05.539
groups and transnational criminal organizations

00:46:05.539 --> 00:46:08.780
So this announcement came to us in the form of

00:46:08.780 --> 00:46:10.739
this proclamation. That's interesting that she

00:46:10.739 --> 00:46:13.880
says transnationalist criminal organizations

00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:17.039
That's important because there is something there.

00:46:17.260 --> 00:46:19.800
There is something there. That's different than

00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.980
saying they're ideologues who want to kill us

00:46:22.980 --> 00:46:24.820
and get rid of us and run everything. So I'll

00:46:24.820 --> 00:46:27.719
just show you a bit of it on my computer here.

00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:29.460
If I scroll down, you can see it's a couple of

00:46:29.460 --> 00:46:32.739
pages long. And in this proclamation, Mugo, the

00:46:32.739 --> 00:46:34.960
governor is explaining which groups we're talking

00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:38.559
about here and why he chose them, also what the

00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:42.000
impact will be of this proclamation. So I spoke

00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.599
to Ahmed Mitchell, Edward Ahmed Mitchell, who

00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:48.530
is the deputy director of care about this. today

00:46:48.530 --> 00:46:51.829
to get his perspective on this proclamation and

00:46:51.829 --> 00:46:54.130
his reaction to this announcement this morning.

00:46:54.329 --> 00:47:00.309
Take a listen to part of that conversation. He'll

00:47:00.309 --> 00:47:04.190
sound a lot like a political operative. So, Edward,

00:47:04.210 --> 00:47:05.909
I want to read you part of this proclamation,

00:47:06.070 --> 00:47:08.409
which I'm sure you've already read before. But

00:47:08.409 --> 00:47:12.150
part of it says internal documents plainly identified

00:47:12.150 --> 00:47:15.190
Kare as a subsidiary of the Muslim Brotherhood.

00:47:15.469 --> 00:47:17.429
And a federal court eventually found, quote,

00:47:17.909 --> 00:47:20.550
ample evidence to establish that Kare was associated

00:47:20.550 --> 00:47:24.039
with Hamas. What's your response to that? Completely

00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:26.260
false. In fact, Mr. Abbott knows that another

00:47:26.260 --> 00:47:28.679
court later ruled that those claims were completely

00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:30.300
improper, should have never been made in the

00:47:30.300 --> 00:47:33.139
first place, and were made against dozens of

00:47:33.139 --> 00:47:36.099
American Muslim organizations when the Bush administration

00:47:36.099 --> 00:47:38.820
was going to great excesses in the years after

00:47:38.820 --> 00:47:41.699
9 -11. So what he's done is cherry -pick information,

00:47:42.260 --> 00:47:44.639
bottle them up into conspiracy theories, and

00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:48.139
then regurgitate them for this publicity stunt.

00:47:48.460 --> 00:47:50.820
CARE is an independent organization. We're not

00:47:50.820 --> 00:47:54.500
an agent, offshoot, partner. any foreign organization,

00:47:54.500 --> 00:47:59.880
period. It's partially true, but it is a political

00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:06.039
organization. This is who got who's the Elon

00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:10.579
Omar. And yeah, they're bringing people in. And

00:48:10.579 --> 00:48:13.219
there's no doubt that we have to be very wary

00:48:13.219 --> 00:48:17.849
of who is coming in to different elected offices,

00:48:18.250 --> 00:48:21.030
because I've seen this with Europe, and absolutely,

00:48:21.170 --> 00:48:24.230
if you don't do anything about it, then all of

00:48:24.230 --> 00:48:26.949
a sudden, you're not necessarily being represented

00:48:26.949 --> 00:48:30.510
by someone who you want to represent you. However,

00:48:31.530 --> 00:48:35.769
instead of reposting and freaking out and sending

00:48:35.769 --> 00:48:39.130
to all your text groups like, they're taking

00:48:39.130 --> 00:48:43.219
over, they want Sharia law. Run for office. Run

00:48:43.219 --> 00:48:45.920
for school board. Run for county commissioner.

00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:50.219
Activate people in your community. Don't just

00:48:50.219 --> 00:48:53.219
sit there. This is the mistake we make. You just

00:48:53.219 --> 00:48:56.380
wander around and go, this is bad, it's bad.

00:48:56.739 --> 00:49:00.820
Well, yeah, it's okay. It's really bad if it

00:49:00.820 --> 00:49:07.000
happens. SIOP has been used many, many, many,

00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:09.920
many times. So first let's understand what the

00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:12.900
Muslim Brotherhood really is. Let's give you

00:49:12.900 --> 00:49:14.980
a bit of background as well, Mugo, about these

00:49:14.980 --> 00:49:16.940
organizations that we're talking about, including

00:49:16.940 --> 00:49:19.280
the Muslim Brotherhood. It may sound familiar

00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:21.960
to you. This is a group that was founded in Egypt.

00:49:22.139 --> 00:49:25.480
It really rose to power, rose to influence after

00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:28.420
the Arab Spring. But important to note that it

00:49:28.420 --> 00:49:31.519
also became something that Americans grew to

00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:35.480
see as a threat. Egypt, the ideology within the

00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:37.699
Muslim Brotherhood also spread to some other

00:49:37.699 --> 00:49:40.820
groups that you'll now know Hamas and Hezbollah

00:49:40.820 --> 00:49:43.940
as well. But important to mention here that there

00:49:43.940 --> 00:49:46.920
has really been no material tie from the Muslim

00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:51.119
Brotherhood to care. Also care, which is an American

00:49:51.119 --> 00:49:53.659
based group, has never actually been charged

00:49:53.659 --> 00:49:56.500
with crimes like aiding and abetting a terrorist

00:49:56.500 --> 00:49:59.119
organization. Okay, so she debunks it pretty

00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:01.159
well, but let's find out where the Muslim Brotherhood

00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:04.030
really came from. from before the Arab Spring.

00:50:04.670 --> 00:50:08.070
This is George Galloway. He was member of parliament

00:50:08.070 --> 00:50:10.989
for the Labour Party in the UK for many years.

00:50:11.489 --> 00:50:14.110
Of course, like all good former politicians,

00:50:14.250 --> 00:50:18.590
you become a podcaster. This week, he said it

00:50:18.590 --> 00:50:21.869
out loud, what I have known, because this is,

00:50:21.869 --> 00:50:25.599
if you understand... the royal families of Europe,

00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:28.380
and particularly the British crown. They're still

00:50:28.380 --> 00:50:29.980
mad at us. We just got... They're still mad at

00:50:29.980 --> 00:50:33.000
us for, you know, breaking away 250 years ago.

00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:35.480
This is not how they want the British Empire

00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:38.940
to be. This guy just says it plainly. Indeed,

00:50:39.059 --> 00:50:43.440
this has a long and inglorious history. The British

00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:48.840
invented it, as in so much else. We helped, found,

00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:53.420
and nourished, nurtured. the Muslim Brotherhood

00:50:53.420 --> 00:50:59.440
in Egypt in the early 1950s so that we could

00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:03.139
use them against the Arab nationalist leader

00:51:03.139 --> 00:51:08.860
Gamal Abdel Nasser, President Nasser. We invented

00:51:08.860 --> 00:51:12.699
the Muslim Brotherhood. It was invented in London

00:51:12.699 --> 00:51:17.260
and it was its first outing, though not its last,

00:51:17.900 --> 00:51:23.760
was to undermine the pan -arabic message of the

00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:28.539
Nasserists and well we've fallen out with the

00:51:28.539 --> 00:51:32.539
Muslim Brotherhood from time to time, but Occasionally

00:51:32.539 --> 00:51:35.619
they can still be useful to each other if you

00:51:35.619 --> 00:51:39.340
get my drift. No kidding Wow, so and so this

00:51:39.340 --> 00:51:42.360
is being relaunched Because when did we hear

00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:44.940
about the Muslim Brotherhood before in our recent

00:51:44.940 --> 00:51:49.900
history? 13 years ago President Obama And this

00:51:49.900 --> 00:51:53.820
was 100 % political, as it is now. And it's being

00:51:53.820 --> 00:51:57.300
used for different things. One, to fracture the

00:51:57.300 --> 00:52:01.059
conservative base into, you know, no different

00:52:01.059 --> 00:52:03.500
really from the Christian Zionists, you know,

00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:07.579
oh, America first, the MAGA, to confuse, you

00:52:07.579 --> 00:52:13.380
know, divide and conquer. At the same time, to

00:52:13.380 --> 00:52:16.599
congregate certain groups all on the right to

00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:19.139
kind of bring it all together. Yeah, because

00:52:19.139 --> 00:52:21.619
there was a fear that there was such fracturing

00:52:21.619 --> 00:52:25.920
within the GOP that we needed a common enemy

00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:28.780
to bring everybody back together. This PsiOp

00:52:28.780 --> 00:52:32.199
is played over and over and over. So let's go

00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:36.519
back at shorts, my final one. This was 13, 14

00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:40.099
years ago. This is CBN, Christian Broadcast News.

00:52:40.579 --> 00:52:42.800
Here's the story of the day back then before

00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:46.440
we were really all nuts with social media. Oops.

00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:49.980
Whoa. It's the end of the show, everybody. Sorry.

00:52:50.260 --> 00:52:52.360
Here it is. White House is moving toward developing

00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:55.619
ties with the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamist

00:52:55.619 --> 00:52:58.300
groups in the Middle East. National Journal reports

00:52:58.300 --> 00:53:00.900
the president believes he has no choice but to

00:53:00.900 --> 00:53:03.000
cultivate the Brotherhood and other groups. This

00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:06.460
is about Obama. He believes are relatively moderate.

00:53:06.940 --> 00:53:08.880
One State Department official tells the magazine,

00:53:08.940 --> 00:53:12.019
quote, The war on terror is over. And now the

00:53:12.019 --> 00:53:15.079
Arab world may find a route to democracy through

00:53:15.700 --> 00:53:18.059
Islamism, but those moves may hurt the president

00:53:18.059 --> 00:53:20.840
politically. CBN News terrorism analyst Eric

00:53:20.840 --> 00:53:23.119
Stackelback joins us now for more on this story.

00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:25.760
Eric, you attended an event earlier today, I

00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:27.920
understand, about the Muslim Brotherhood. What

00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:30.699
did you find out? Lee, very timely event with

00:53:30.699 --> 00:53:33.159
what Wendy just described. The Obama administration

00:53:33.159 --> 00:53:36.880
is obviously openly now embracing Islamist groups

00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:38.960
like the Muslim Brotherhood. Well, today at the

00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:41.420
National Press Club here in Washington, D .C.,

00:53:41.420 --> 00:53:44.780
the Center for Security Policy had a really eye

00:53:44.780 --> 00:53:47.960
-opening event, Lee. They are releasing a 10

00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:52.559
-part online instructional course, online video

00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:54.980
instructional course for the average American,

00:53:55.340 --> 00:53:57.820
all about the Muslim Brotherhood. It's called

00:53:57.820 --> 00:54:00.699
the Muslim Brotherhood in America. It breaks

00:54:00.699 --> 00:54:03.239
down this group, what they're all about, and

00:54:03.239 --> 00:54:05.900
why they're so dangerous. And we spoke to Frank

00:54:05.900 --> 00:54:08.500
Gaffney, Lee, the president of the Center for

00:54:08.500 --> 00:54:11.480
Security Policy. Let's look at that now. Jihad.

00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:17.019
which is commanded by Sharia, takes more than

00:54:17.019 --> 00:54:22.760
one form. We are not winning a war that we honestly

00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:26.659
are not even recognizing we're in against jihadists

00:54:26.659 --> 00:54:29.320
that are using not just violence against us,

00:54:30.659 --> 00:54:34.280
but civilization. jihad as well. And Lee, I think

00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:36.340
that was a real takeaway from this event today,

00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:39.199
what Frank Gaffney just said. There are many

00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:42.760
forms of jihad that our enemies are using. And

00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:45.559
not only violent jihad, for the Muslim Brotherhood,

00:54:45.699 --> 00:54:48.719
it is a stealthy type. Frank Gaffney called it

00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:52.219
civilization jihad. Their philosophy is, hey,

00:54:52.219 --> 00:54:54.820
we don't have to blow you up now. We can win

00:54:54.820 --> 00:54:57.360
through elections. We can get jobs in the media.

00:54:57.739 --> 00:55:01.300
The government slowly, slowly infiltrate. And

00:55:01.300 --> 00:55:04.340
then the final stage is, yes, violent jihad.

00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:07.719
Brother, this is the same message they played

00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:12.920
15 years ago through the same Christian -loving,

00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:16.440
Jesus -loving people, we cannot fall for these

00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:19.559
psyops. Do we have to be aware and do things

00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:23.760
about our culture? Absolutely. But this is not

00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:32.820
the way to go. I get this picture of just pitchforks,

00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:37.210
torches. Running up to Frankenstein's castle,

00:55:37.530 --> 00:55:39.750
banging on the door, demanding to see the monster.

00:55:41.010 --> 00:55:44.750
I just get that picture because we tend to be

00:55:44.750 --> 00:55:47.650
very alarmist and we're more so now than ever

00:55:47.650 --> 00:55:51.230
because of social media, because of podcasting.

00:55:52.250 --> 00:55:55.090
People are taking everything I pull up, which

00:55:55.090 --> 00:55:58.429
I've been pulling up less and less, so much so

00:55:58.429 --> 00:56:00.050
I'm having to go, okay, I probably should look

00:56:00.050 --> 00:56:01.909
at the news just to see if there's anything.

00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:05.539
And it all is the same thing over and over and

00:56:05.539 --> 00:56:10.300
over. And my thing is this, is we've got to,

00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:12.960
as believers, followers of Jesus, first of all,

00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:15.679
do we trust that God is in control? At the end

00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:17.840
of the day, if we trust the sovereignty. Now

00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:19.659
that doesn't mean we're inactive because we partner,

00:56:19.780 --> 00:56:22.219
we co -labor with Him, we cooperate with Him,

00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:26.599
right? But the key is with Him. Not us in the

00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:29.719
henhouse whispering into each other's ear, and

00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:31.480
then by the time it gets to the third chicken,

00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:33.980
It doesn't even sound like it started. You know,

00:56:34.139 --> 00:56:36.679
this is the telegraph game and I'm seeing it

00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:39.119
happen. I'm seeing people I respect, people that

00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:42.980
have had impact in my life. Just I love your

00:56:42.980 --> 00:56:44.960
description, hair on fire, because that's really,

00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:47.420
you know, if you watch somebody's hair for caught

00:56:47.420 --> 00:56:48.920
on fire, they're losing, you know, they're out

00:56:48.920 --> 00:56:52.000
of control. And I'm seeing this, this massive

00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:54.980
alarmist. Now flip side of that coin is we do

00:56:54.980 --> 00:56:58.000
need to be aware. We do need to be strategic.

00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:00.800
But I like what you said. The strategic piece

00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:04.619
is Don't go running off trying to set fires everywhere.

00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:07.920
How about go off and run for office? How about

00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:11.760
go off and serve on a committee? Or help somebody

00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:16.519
run for office? Help do a voter drive. Do the

00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:19.460
things that move the needle. And a lot of this

00:57:19.460 --> 00:57:22.920
stuff isn't moving anything, but just noise.

00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:25.699
It's attacking people's nervous system. They

00:57:25.699 --> 00:57:28.159
become literally blind to what they're seeing.

00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:31.130
And wrapped with fear. Here's the documents.

00:57:31.269 --> 00:57:32.909
Look, they're showing the documents. They're

00:57:32.909 --> 00:57:38.570
scrolling something on an Instagram reel. That's

00:57:38.570 --> 00:57:41.210
not proof of anything. They're showing you clips

00:57:41.210 --> 00:57:44.449
of this and that, and that could be from 10 years

00:57:44.449 --> 00:57:47.130
ago. It's not proof. And we need to ask the question,

00:57:47.210 --> 00:57:50.130
what really moves the needle in the world? Is

00:57:50.130 --> 00:57:54.210
it just these podcasts and these news clips?

00:57:55.110 --> 00:57:58.650
I got a kick out of they called her a Breaking

00:57:58.650 --> 00:58:00.590
News Correspondent. I didn't even know there

00:58:00.590 --> 00:58:02.750
was a title for that. I want to be that. Breaking

00:58:02.750 --> 00:58:04.949
News Correspondent. And you got noise in the

00:58:04.949 --> 00:58:08.170
background, telegraphs going off, faxes, fax

00:58:08.170 --> 00:58:11.789
machines, you know, that busy buzz of a newsroom

00:58:11.789 --> 00:58:14.550
because there's so much coming in. It's hilarious.

00:58:14.690 --> 00:58:16.730
I was listening to it and I had this mental image

00:58:16.730 --> 00:58:18.989
of her in an old New York City newsroom, you

00:58:18.989 --> 00:58:22.769
know, with teletypes, top writers going on. And

00:58:22.769 --> 00:58:25.630
yeah, I thought, wow, they can just create this.

00:58:25.900 --> 00:58:30.920
And they're doing all of this for attention,

00:58:31.699 --> 00:58:35.820
for listeners, for subscribers, for people who

00:58:35.820 --> 00:58:39.440
will give you likes and subscribe to your whatever

00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:42.239
it is you're out there for. That's what concerns

00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:44.719
me more than the news that's coming out of it

00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:48.800
is what is driving this need to be noticed and

00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:51.719
paid attention to? The enemy. I'm going to just

00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:53.739
tell you right up straight up. Yeah, because

00:58:53.739 --> 00:58:55.719
that's what it is. It's attention getting and

00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:59.519
I'm like, because I feel the pool. I get it.

00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:02.219
I've mentioned this before that whenever there's

00:59:02.219 --> 00:59:04.320
a breaking news moment, you know, you don't want

00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:06.599
to be the last guy to the party, right? You don't

00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:08.500
want to show up late. Now that would be horrible.

00:59:08.539 --> 00:59:12.719
Oh, I'd be a loser. Oh yeah. FOMO. FOMO. Fear

00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:15.679
of missing out. And it's like people are so living

00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:18.670
with FOMO right now. Fear of missing out. that

00:59:18.670 --> 00:59:21.469
they will jump on the bandwagon and start saying

00:59:21.469 --> 00:59:23.969
something they know nothing about. And that's

00:59:23.969 --> 00:59:27.090
my biggest concern here is that if I'm a follower

00:59:27.090 --> 00:59:30.849
of Jesus, but I'm pulling this first thing that

00:59:30.849 --> 00:59:34.030
comes off of the newsfeed and repeating it and

00:59:34.030 --> 00:59:36.710
reposting it or sending it back out and then

00:59:36.710 --> 00:59:39.170
talking to others as though I'm truly informed,

00:59:39.769 --> 00:59:43.119
that's a form of falsehood. And the Bible is

00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:45.340
pretty serious about that. That's why I'm very,

00:59:45.780 --> 00:59:48.039
you know, I used to get up and do these cultural

00:59:48.039 --> 00:59:49.820
briefings. Have you noticed I've backed off of

00:59:49.820 --> 00:59:52.820
that? And because if I'm going to give a briefing,

00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:54.920
first of all, it's got to be true. I don't want

00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:59.280
to participate in this. So I've taken a step

00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:01.659
back on that. The things I'm trying to share

01:00:01.659 --> 01:00:04.199
are like I've got this from CBN News, God is

01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:07.059
at work. Hundreds flood the altar to choose Christ

01:00:07.059 --> 01:00:09.360
in an outreach at the site of Charlie Kirk murder.

01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:13.639
So Greg Lowry, from California, Calvary Chapel

01:00:13.639 --> 01:00:18.219
pastor, very well known. They did an event there

01:00:18.219 --> 01:00:20.480
and thousands of people showed up and hundreds

01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:22.780
gave their life to Christ. That's what I want

01:00:22.780 --> 01:00:25.780
to report on. I want to report on what God is

01:00:25.780 --> 01:00:28.539
doing in the world. I want to overwhelm the world.

01:00:29.460 --> 01:00:32.659
overwhelm the news, the bad news, with good news.

01:00:33.219 --> 01:00:36.280
Because the gospel is good news. It is the good

01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:38.940
news. It is. It's not the old news. Old news

01:00:38.940 --> 01:00:41.039
doesn't matter anymore. Breaking news! The gospel

01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:44.039
is good news! It's good news, and good news is

01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:46.880
current. Good news moves the needle in the world.

01:00:47.559 --> 01:00:50.760
This stuff just keeps us all spun up, chasing

01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:54.010
our tails, chasing ourselves around a tree. Going

01:00:54.010 --> 01:00:56.769
around the same mountain, which we see in Scripture,

01:00:57.510 --> 01:01:00.170
the Exodus, 11 -day journey, it took them 40

01:01:00.170 --> 01:01:05.289
years. An 11 -day journey took 40 years because

01:01:05.289 --> 01:01:08.130
they couldn't get it right. But they just stayed,

01:01:08.610 --> 01:01:10.449
just chasing themselves. And I feel like that's

01:01:10.449 --> 01:01:12.570
what I'm seeing. But when I look at this, I go,

01:01:12.710 --> 01:01:16.449
now this I can get excited about. Now again,

01:01:16.630 --> 01:01:19.820
that doesn't mean as... prophetic voice in the

01:01:19.820 --> 01:01:21.940
world there are times we got to say whoa whoa

01:01:21.940 --> 01:01:25.019
wait of course okay this this could be real this

01:01:25.019 --> 01:01:27.960
is a real thing something's up here and I'm okay

01:01:27.960 --> 01:01:32.159
with that but this chasing off after every news

01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:35.980
feed on your social media platforms and just

01:01:35.980 --> 01:01:38.619
trying to get more likes and more attention I

01:01:38.619 --> 01:01:42.099
just don't like being used or people I love being

01:01:42.099 --> 01:01:44.440
used for political gain when they don't even

01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:45.980
know what they're doing, that they don't even

01:01:45.980 --> 01:01:49.579
see what is really happening here. Do we have

01:01:49.579 --> 01:01:52.519
a problem with socialists and Marxists trying

01:01:52.519 --> 01:01:55.579
to change our country? Well, yeah, that's for

01:01:55.579 --> 01:01:58.219
250 years. That's been going from the beginning.

01:01:58.460 --> 01:02:01.039
Yeah, there's nothing new there. That doesn't

01:02:01.039 --> 01:02:03.500
mean we stand down and are ignorant. It's just

01:02:03.500 --> 01:02:06.659
let's get truly authentically informed and then

01:02:06.659 --> 01:02:09.989
let's get strategic. on what we do about it.

01:02:10.130 --> 01:02:12.510
I don't think strategy is running off on social

01:02:12.510 --> 01:02:15.250
media and just spitting off the latest, what

01:02:15.250 --> 01:02:20.250
you think is information. It's the ability to

01:02:20.250 --> 01:02:22.789
be at peace and at calm when the world is on

01:02:22.789 --> 01:02:25.630
fire, because you trust God. Or when you think

01:02:25.630 --> 01:02:27.869
the world is on fire. Exactly, where it appears

01:02:27.869 --> 01:02:32.110
to be. We watched two Christmas music movies

01:02:32.110 --> 01:02:35.949
on Pure Flix last night, which is basically soap

01:02:35.949 --> 01:02:40.530
opera actors with a cute story, but it's, you

01:02:40.530 --> 01:02:43.469
know, the stories are, they're just heartwarming.

01:02:43.630 --> 01:02:46.949
There's a lot of God in there and a lot of faith.

01:02:47.590 --> 01:02:50.829
And man, you just feel so good after that. Of

01:02:50.829 --> 01:02:53.010
course. And then you flip over to, let's see

01:02:53.010 --> 01:02:57.090
what's on Netflix. You watch House of David and

01:02:57.090 --> 01:03:01.449
it's war war and more war Little heavy on the

01:03:01.449 --> 01:03:09.289
war in House of David for sure But yeah, man

01:03:09.289 --> 01:03:13.610
I get that and that knob we've been The kind

01:03:13.610 --> 01:03:15.750
of things that we're allowing ourselves to diet

01:03:15.750 --> 01:03:18.469
on territory media is just things that are gonna

01:03:18.469 --> 01:03:22.849
be life -giving. Yeah, I'm just Whether it's

01:03:22.849 --> 01:03:26.219
all real or not in the world It still gets you

01:03:26.219 --> 01:03:28.659
spun up the same way. Your brain doesn't differentiate

01:03:28.659 --> 01:03:32.239
between good news, bad news, or is this true

01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:36.179
or false news? It just takes it in and then processes

01:03:36.179 --> 01:03:39.059
it, much like AI. It just takes it in, processes

01:03:39.059 --> 01:03:43.320
it, and then spits out something. Life is too

01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:46.679
short to live that spun up. You don't have to

01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:49.000
live that way. Maybe that's the heart of our

01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:52.559
message is to help people make a decision, a

01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:55.840
quality decision. I don't have to live like there's

01:03:55.840 --> 01:04:00.019
a five alarm flyer going off 24 hours a day.

01:04:00.340 --> 01:04:02.400
This is what John Eldridge was trying to say

01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:05.639
back in 2019, before COVID hit, when he wrote

01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:08.619
the book, Get Your Life Back, because he realized

01:04:08.619 --> 01:04:12.119
he was living that way. And he realized, oh my

01:04:12.119 --> 01:04:14.159
gosh, and what the Lord spoke to him, which I

01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:17.119
love, is you're doing things I didn't tell you

01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:21.750
to do. trying to capture everything. He was in

01:04:21.750 --> 01:04:24.110
the know on everything. And he was like, realize,

01:04:24.670 --> 01:04:26.590
God didn't tell me to chase that. God didn't

01:04:26.590 --> 01:04:29.050
tell me to chase that. But what's happened is

01:04:29.050 --> 01:04:33.349
that pastors, I was telling that I said pastors

01:04:33.349 --> 01:04:35.929
today are so different than what I grew up with.

01:04:36.449 --> 01:04:38.829
You know, when I went to seminary, I looked around

01:04:38.829 --> 01:04:41.230
and, and, you know, we didn't have social media

01:04:41.230 --> 01:04:43.989
back then, obviously, but the diff, it was a

01:04:43.989 --> 01:04:46.409
different caliber. These guys had a sense of

01:04:46.409 --> 01:04:49.760
call. on their life to preach the good news of

01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:52.340
Jesus Christ in the highways and byways, on the

01:04:52.340 --> 01:04:54.840
porn mission field, home missions. I went to

01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:57.760
school with all those guys and gals. And there

01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:00.559
was such a, it seemed like a greater deal of

01:05:00.559 --> 01:05:03.300
purity about it. They weren't young. I mean,

01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:05.599
they were young, but they weren't hip, cool,

01:05:06.300 --> 01:05:09.079
you know, wearing the latest styles. I mean,

01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:11.059
we were nerdy a bunch, you know what I mean?

01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:13.900
But we were out preaching in country churches.

01:05:14.329 --> 01:05:17.550
doing our reps. We didn't have a social media

01:05:17.550 --> 01:05:20.530
platform to boost us into what appears to be

01:05:20.530 --> 01:05:22.769
celebrityism or stardom. There was none of that

01:05:22.769 --> 01:05:26.409
existed. And there was, I think, a greater purity

01:05:26.409 --> 01:05:29.909
about what was happening 40 years ago than what

01:05:29.909 --> 01:05:34.130
I see now. Now you see pastors growing churches

01:05:34.130 --> 01:05:37.949
based on their social media impact. That scares

01:05:37.949 --> 01:05:40.909
me a little bit of, whoa, what are we valuing?

01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:44.059
Oh, they have a million followers. They must

01:05:44.059 --> 01:05:46.980
be somebody. God's not impressed with size. No,

01:05:46.980 --> 01:05:49.960
He is not. That seems to be a recurring theme

01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:52.239
that we keep coming back to. Yeah. And you get

01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:55.059
churches in America that now, you know, it used

01:05:55.059 --> 01:05:57.559
to be the average size church in America was

01:05:57.559 --> 01:06:01.039
70 or 80 people. Do you know that? No, I didn't.

01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:04.659
Now it's like 40. You know, we've seen a diminishment.

01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:06.960
One third of the church did not come back to

01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:11.349
church after COVID. One third. Wow. Yeah. 30

01:06:11.349 --> 01:06:14.090
something percent did not come back because now

01:06:14.090 --> 01:06:15.550
they can watch it online because everybody went

01:06:15.550 --> 01:06:18.769
online. Right. So now, you know, we're just tired.

01:06:19.210 --> 01:06:21.909
Let's stay home. Yeah. We'll watch Pastor Jimmy

01:06:21.909 --> 01:06:25.250
or Pastor Brian on TV, you know. We'll get involved

01:06:25.250 --> 01:06:27.329
that way. Not to say that's all bad, you know,

01:06:27.349 --> 01:06:29.130
for shut -ins and people who can't or you're

01:06:29.130 --> 01:06:31.670
traveling, that's great. But if that becomes

01:06:31.670 --> 01:06:35.190
your new normal. Your go -to. Yeah. It's sad.

01:06:35.690 --> 01:06:38.030
So anyway, a lot of things have changed and I'm

01:06:38.030 --> 01:06:40.510
seeing And a lot of these young pastors, and

01:06:40.510 --> 01:06:43.190
I'm cheering them on too, man. I want them to

01:06:43.190 --> 01:06:47.449
touch the world with the gospel, touch the campuses.

01:06:47.710 --> 01:06:50.590
I want to see that. But I'm afraid that if we

01:06:50.590 --> 01:06:53.250
chase off, chase after what the world is chasing

01:06:53.250 --> 01:06:57.409
after, which is internet stardom, getting the

01:06:57.409 --> 01:07:00.530
title of an influencer like that, some banner

01:07:00.530 --> 01:07:05.250
of honor, badge of honor, chasing this celebrity

01:07:05.250 --> 01:07:08.530
-ism. It takes on different forms in every generation.

01:07:08.650 --> 01:07:10.769
And that's just what it is now. I just think

01:07:10.769 --> 01:07:14.030
it's dangerous because you can find yourself

01:07:14.030 --> 01:07:17.190
worried about your likes and your followers.

01:07:17.949 --> 01:07:20.650
And that begins to influence the way you do what

01:07:20.650 --> 01:07:24.510
you do, as opposed to your prophetic voice carrying

01:07:24.510 --> 01:07:28.590
a message. So to wrap this up, to land the plane.

01:07:29.269 --> 01:07:32.480
Shoot your approach. Really? You're going to

01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:34.840
out -aviate me every single time? That's good.

01:07:34.860 --> 01:07:38.639
And I know nothing about flying, per se. Well,

01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:45.880
stick with me. Just on demand, please, because

01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:47.880
I know that you know the entire Bible by heart

01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:55.019
and don't need anything. When we go to post that

01:07:55.019 --> 01:07:58.400
meme to our text group, when we go to comment

01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:03.099
on on that reel or that TikTok or whatever. What

01:08:03.099 --> 01:08:05.920
would Jesus do? What would He be thinking? What

01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:09.059
is the proverb? What is the psalm? What is the

01:08:09.059 --> 01:08:12.340
scripture that we can think about, put into our

01:08:12.340 --> 01:08:16.020
heads that gives us a moment to pause and think,

01:08:16.079 --> 01:08:18.340
am I doing this? So what would Jesus do? Am I

01:08:18.340 --> 01:08:22.859
doing this to warn people? Am I doing this to

01:08:22.859 --> 01:08:26.640
be part of the group? Am I doing this to raise

01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:28.920
my social clout, which I think is subconscious.

01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:32.819
Am I doing this out of pridefulness? Can you

01:08:32.819 --> 01:08:36.239
give me... I'm asking for me. Now, I don't really

01:08:36.239 --> 01:08:40.020
post anything anymore, but I'd like to help others

01:08:40.020 --> 01:08:43.859
when I can. You've got to get the why behind

01:08:43.859 --> 01:08:49.659
the motive. Everything about Jesus was so about

01:08:49.659 --> 01:08:52.699
motive more than what's being done. It wasn't

01:08:52.699 --> 01:08:56.229
always about... the outward expression, what's

01:08:56.229 --> 01:08:59.350
driving you. And there's Bible verses on this,

01:08:59.550 --> 01:09:02.430
keep your heart with all vigilance for from it

01:09:02.430 --> 01:09:05.850
flow the issues of life. That's Proverbs 423.

01:09:06.310 --> 01:09:07.970
Let the words of my mouth and the meditation

01:09:07.970 --> 01:09:10.829
of my heart be acceptable in your sight. Oh Lord,

01:09:10.890 --> 01:09:14.449
my rock and redeemer. Psalm 19 14. I mean, everything

01:09:14.449 --> 01:09:18.050
goes back to motive. Galatians 1 10, listen to

01:09:18.050 --> 01:09:21.590
this, talk about relevance. For am I now seeking

01:09:21.590 --> 01:09:25.340
the approval of man? or of God. If I were still

01:09:25.340 --> 01:09:27.859
trying to please men, I would not be a servant

01:09:27.859 --> 01:09:46.529
of Christ. He didn't write in verses, he just

01:09:46.529 --> 01:09:48.949
wrote. I like that one. But that one, for am

01:09:48.949 --> 01:09:51.170
I now seeking the approval of man or of God?

01:09:51.189 --> 01:09:53.770
If I were still trying to please man, I would

01:09:53.770 --> 01:09:59.189
not be a servant of Christ. How many have forfeited

01:09:59.189 --> 01:10:02.569
the banner over their lives of servant of God,

01:10:02.789 --> 01:10:05.810
servant of Christ, because they have folded?

01:10:07.130 --> 01:10:10.609
And you can't tell me that everyone's inoculated

01:10:10.609 --> 01:10:13.970
to the pressure of social media and inoculated

01:10:13.970 --> 01:10:17.409
to getting those followers and more likes. Then

01:10:17.409 --> 01:10:19.890
suddenly somebody wants to sponsor your podcast.

01:10:20.010 --> 01:10:23.569
Wow, I've made it. It's almost akin to back when

01:10:23.569 --> 01:10:27.210
you'd get a record deal. I got signed. It makes

01:10:27.210 --> 01:10:30.229
it official. It validates you. Still does, by

01:10:30.229 --> 01:10:32.229
the way. Or on their podcast, you see the little

01:10:32.229 --> 01:10:35.789
YouTube plaque. That's my favorite. You get that

01:10:35.789 --> 01:10:37.270
little - Placed. Placed. I think you actually

01:10:37.270 --> 01:10:39.529
have to - pay for it for them to send it to you.

01:10:39.590 --> 01:10:41.729
I think it'd cost money. I was noticing that

01:10:41.729 --> 01:10:44.289
on one of my favorite guys. I was like, Oh, I

01:10:44.289 --> 01:10:47.289
see you got your plaque back there. Product placement,

01:10:47.289 --> 01:10:50.369
you know, moment. They're like, I'm valid. That's

01:10:50.369 --> 01:10:52.470
why I have a cross in the back of my, whenever

01:10:52.470 --> 01:10:54.510
I'm doing an interview, I got a cross in the

01:10:54.510 --> 01:10:56.569
background, man. If I'm in my office, I've got

01:10:56.569 --> 01:10:59.550
a guitar behind me. That's all I've got in my

01:10:59.550 --> 01:11:02.699
office for decor. I have no decor, but I like

01:11:02.699 --> 01:11:07.920
Galatians 1 and 10. Here's another one. This

01:11:07.920 --> 01:11:11.680
is a heavy Reve. Philippians 2, 3 and 4, do nothing

01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:15.859
from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility

01:11:15.859 --> 01:11:18.899
count others more significant than yourselves.

01:11:19.960 --> 01:11:22.600
Let each of you look not only to his own interests,

01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:25.819
but also the interests of others. There it is.

01:11:26.020 --> 01:11:29.760
Again, it comes back to You're not pushing yourself

01:11:29.760 --> 01:11:32.319
down. You're just elevating those around you.

01:11:32.619 --> 01:11:34.539
It's not to put yourself down. It's just you

01:11:34.539 --> 01:11:38.220
want to elevate those around you. Recently, standing

01:11:38.220 --> 01:11:41.000
in a hallway, a doctor from our town who goes

01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:43.659
to our church, great guy, I love him, comes up

01:11:43.659 --> 01:11:45.880
to me and Brian. He's just chit chatting. And

01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:48.199
he goes, man, you know what I've noticed? He

01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:50.159
goes, Pastor Jimmy, there are people that like

01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:54.239
Brian better than you. And I say, okay. I was

01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:55.680
hoping there was something else. And he goes,

01:11:55.920 --> 01:11:58.659
And Pastor Brian, there are people who like Pastor

01:11:58.659 --> 01:12:01.119
Jimmy better than you. And we were going, is

01:12:01.119 --> 01:12:04.500
this a compliment? And he meant it as a compliment.

01:12:05.199 --> 01:12:06.979
He said, what I'm saying is that you guys are

01:12:06.979 --> 01:12:08.880
both making a difference. I mean, he meant it

01:12:08.880 --> 01:12:11.340
as a positive, but it was a bizarre way to say

01:12:11.340 --> 01:12:13.920
it, right? But at the end of the day, so I said

01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:17.239
to him directly, I said, if more people like

01:12:17.239 --> 01:12:19.340
Brian than they like me, then I'm doing my job

01:12:19.340 --> 01:12:22.189
as a leader. And I'm raising up the next generation

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to go further than I ever dreamed I'd go. I said

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it straight up. I didn't even hesitate. You also

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are two different people, two different styles.

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We're going to reach different people. I can

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see where he meant it as a positive. He did.

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As we say in the old country, this means... It

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came, it came rottenly out of his mouth. I love

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the old sayings from the old country, man. Those

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are the best. I'd be disappointed if you didn't

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give us one today. So I learned heavy Revi. This

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is, this is the term I've learned. Heavy Revi,

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heavy revelation, heavy Revi. I like that. I

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like, I like it. Feel the weight of it. All right,

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brother. Thank you so much once again. I can't,

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I already can't wait until next week. I know.

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We got so much to talk about. God, the world

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and other things. It's all here. We get to do

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this. Go find us in the Godcast wrap. See you

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next week, everybody.