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Father, what a privilege, what an honor, what

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a joy to come before you today. In the middle

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of a week that's hectic and busy and harried,

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and yet we still have this attitude. We get to

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do this. So Lord, we lay all this before you.

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We thank you for our friends that are listening

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and joining us, and our prayer for them is for

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your grace to be more than enough. to be absolutely

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sufficient in their lives. We thank you for the

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testimonies that are coming back from people

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who are engaging their faith and engaging their

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walk with you, some of them re -engaging and

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some for the first time stepping into this. So

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we pray for grace upon them. And Father, as we

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do this, we always want to honor you in everything

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we say and do. Thank you for our families, our

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friends, our fur babies. And we thank you for

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this time, this podcast in Jesus' name. Amen.

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Amen. It's Wednesday, October 22nd, 2025. We

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Get To Do This. This is episode number seven.

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Hey, brother. How's it going, my friend? It's

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going good. It's good to be in the house of Pastor

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Jimmy and the Five Brian's. That is so funny.

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That'll make me laugh for a long time. I'm just

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checking out your hoodie today. Yes, I got the

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Iron Sharpens Iron. That is awesome. Proverbs

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27. That's one of my faves right there. I live

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by it. I live by this and Ephesians 6 .12. I

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just can't figure out the tattoo. For Ephesians

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if Ephesians is really difficult because you

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know you want to do whole armor of God It turns

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into like a knight of you know, yeah shining

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armor Yeah shield and sword. I'm looking for

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the perfect. Yeah, I haven't quite found you

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know No one thinks about tats until you decide

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to get one about how how Hard it is to pick out

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the design go or design it because it's like

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a sweater. You can't take off I mean, yes, it's

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there once you do it. It's done. It's in here

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in your body So yeah, so you're you're kicking

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around the fusions of well, you know as I'm saying

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that I'm thinking to myself What is the number

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one emoji we use? The swords. The swords, the

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iron sharpens iron. So maybe I need to not be

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so critical and go for the swords. There you

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go. I like it. It's been 61 years, man. So I

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haven't gotten a tat yet. So 61 for you. It was,

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I think, 58 for me when I got these. Oh, really?

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Yeah, Tetelesthi. Yeah, and Free Indeed, which

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I'm going to be preaching on this very passage

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on Sunday. You know, Pastor Brian did a great

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job bringing about, you know, national, local

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freedom based out of, you know, the Bible, which

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impacted obviously the Declaration of Independence.

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He did a phenomenal job with that. So I'm taking

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a different tack. I'm coming in from personal

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freedom and spiritual freedom. So we're talking

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about freedom on those two levels. And then Dr.

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Rick Scarborough will be with us the following

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week, which he's a legend. Oh, really? He's going

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to preach? Yes. Oh, fantastic. Super excited

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about having him. He's pumped. And he'll be bringing

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freedom from more of the geopolitical thing.

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I mean, really, really just kind of his story

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of how he stepped into that space as a pastor.

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And of course, I'm going to have him tell this

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story about his daughter. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's

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a great story. That story is the message. It's

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a good story. Does he just go around the country

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speaking at churches and rallies? I mean, what

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does he do? You know, he's way past retired,

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but in his retirement, he's retooled himself

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and re -upped, so to speak. So instead of leading

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a church as a pastor, he now speaks, does engagements,

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but he does a lot of training. for pastors in

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terms of cultural engagement. Right. That's his

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big, that's his big thing. That's his big rock.

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It is, it is the big thing. You know, actually,

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I was going to start with something else, but

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that cultural engagement, let me see, because

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I did bring a couple of clips. Great. And this

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one, now who is in my life, who is the biggest

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non -believer that you can think of? Really?

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Oh. Yeah, shall I say that out loud? Yeah. Joe

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Rogan? No. Oh, I'm not... Who I work with all

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the time. Oh, I'm not gonna say the name, man.

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I don't do that. None of them will be upset.

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No, no, you say it. John C. Dvorak. I know, I

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love John. He calls himself a lapsed Catholic.

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A lapsed Catholic. Now, ever since I was saved,

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proclaimed Jesus as my Lord and Savior, We've

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never actually even talked about it. We don't

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talk outside the show. But he has chided me.

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He makes fun of me, you know, which is... I've

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heard him. First of all, it's expected. It's

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expected. But something interesting has started

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happening. And so, you know, when he sends in

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clips, I don't look at him on our Thursday and

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Sunday show. And I saw he had something about

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NPR and faith and religion in America. I'm like,

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oh brother, okay, this is going to be interesting.

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So I didn't actually bring those clips. I brought

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his analysis of these clips because he's, and

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it goes right into the cultural engagement. So

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the story was, of course, some professor from

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like the Christian Islamic Jewish Institute,

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like, okay, that's not a broad swath, but okay.

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And how the churches are diminishing. And I think

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what they were really focusing on is how this

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big church splits in, I think, the Methodist

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Church. Now the Anglican Church. The Church of

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England. Yeah, I just heard about it. So they're

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not going to recognize the Archbishop of Canterbury,

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which is like, whoa, that's a big deal. And so

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they were kind of going into, and he has this

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long standing thing. We both agree that social

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media is a problem, particularly with young kids.

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And he just launched into something and it was

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more about the church and then it kind of morphed

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into music. I just wanted to share this because

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this gave me so much courage. and encouragement

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for what's going on. And it has a lot to do with

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our church right here. That's why I think it's

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interesting that your church has a number of

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little factoids that it pulls off that I think…

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I just love little factoids that it pulls off.

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I love it. I use that word all the time. I love

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it. When he says it though, somehow it doesn't

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feel good. I don't know what it is, but it's

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just, it's incredible. I'll go back. That's why

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I think it's interesting that your church has

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a number of little factoids that it pulls off

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that I think, which will be create a revivalism,

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I think, which is the socialization thing. Yes.

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Which is a lot of churches become social. And

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I came up with this thinking about this because

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I did a hit on Chanel show on Friday. Oh, I missed

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it. A Chanel hit. But Chanel Ryan, the One America

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News, he goes on, he talks about, he shows TikTok

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videos of crazy liberals. But I guess he's getting

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into deeper material with the Chanel, yes. This

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discussion was about this country and western

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guy who's a left winger and how about country

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and western is, you know, they're trying to move

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in on it. But she said, she made the comment

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that there was a large, the country and western

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music is the largest genre that is growing the

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fastest and asked me if I had any idea of why

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this might be. And I said, maybe it's because

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country and Western at least has to do with relationships

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and, you know, boys and girls. And and the idea

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that you can, you know, there's there's love

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songs within the country and Western genre as

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opposed to shooting somebody or bitching about

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immigration status in a song. And so you end

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up with this kind of the need for socialization.

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And I think the churches that do well are the

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ones that are pushing that part of it. they have

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their message, but the idea that kids in particular,

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young ones, the Zeds, they, you know, they haven't

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been, they don't have, there was a big story

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that was going around all this last week on the

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mainstream media about one of the high schools

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that cancel all their dances. It's insane. Cause

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nobody was going to go to the dances. And it's

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like that brings back my old point about the

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sock hop. And so I think churches have their

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opportunity. uh to help kids socialize because

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it's a yes it is a place where you can yes meet

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people your abs and and i will say that more

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so yes the non -denominational churches i think

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are doing quite well and they're growing and

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they also have very young pastors you know when

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i say young i mean 40s and it's a very different

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breed a very different genre and the music is

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actually much closer to country and western,

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it's all Nashville. All of the Christian contemporary

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music comes out of Nashville now, and they're,

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you know, they're, Ann Wilson, traditional country

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artist, boom, moves right over to Christian contemporary,

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Jelly Roll. You know, this guy is the furthest

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thing from Christian contemporary music, has

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the number one hit with Brandon Lake. Never heard

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of any of these things. No, I know you haven't.

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But in the legendary words of Lonnie Frisbie,

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there's a whole generation out there just looking

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for God, man. So I thought this was really interesting

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that he pegged that the churches who are socializing

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and becoming centers of the community again,

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which is exactly what you and Annette have done

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here with Bridge Church. I mean, we're here all

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the time. There's always something going on.

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That's our heart. And you know, I grew up unchurched,

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completely, until I was 18 years of age. When

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I stepped into this world, it was like stepping

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on the moon. It was a lunar landscape. I didn't

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know what was behind the next crater, behind

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the next rock. I had to learn a whole new world

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as a young person. I was met with grace. old

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people that love me. I call them blue hairs because

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back then they all had blue hair. They were so

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sweet to me. But what I realized too is as I

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began getting to serve churches and began getting

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involved in ministry, and while I was going to

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college, we would serve a lot of small churches

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all around Central Texas, tiny churches out in

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the country. and they would have these old pavilions

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out there. It was the center of the community

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or the center of the county. I would hear stories

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about how everything was around the church. That

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was the community center of the church. You didn't

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have a separate community center. You had the

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church fellowship hall. It was the community

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center. I remember just sitting around with these

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precious folks as they told those stories. I

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got to serve in a small town in central Texas

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called Comanche, Texas. I think there's around

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4 ,000, 5 ,000 people there. Small churches.

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You feel like you're a bit in a time warp, but

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it's good. Mayberry RFD, you're feeling it, right?

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You're feeling Barney Fife and the sheriff and

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all that. And it's like, there's something Americana

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and good. And some of that has not been lost.

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We are in town. It's this small. We're 12 ,000

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people, but we're connected to Austin, San Antonio.

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We're in this sort of weird vibe where we get

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more influx from larger cities. So we're large

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on the weekends, back to normal during the week,

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except for during touring season. So our heart

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is to have the church become a flourishing place

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again. to where any day of the week you drive

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up, there's cars in the parking lot, there's

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people going in and out. I call it the buzz factor.

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The louder it is in the halls, the happier I

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am because that means people are here and they're

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seeing their church as a connector for the community.

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And you're doing that with a Godcaster. I mean,

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that's the heart of that. It is. And did you

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hear the report from Mindy, by the way, about

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the battery plant? I did, actually. That was

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fascinating. Yeah. So, you know, that's like

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a... Now, she wrote it and I turned it into a

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report for her. Right, right. Because there's

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this big... I wondered if it was our Mindy. It

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is our Mindy, but that's not... That's not the

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voice. I know. I get it. That's not our Mindy's

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voice. I get it. Exactly. Yeah. But she... It

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was pretty much how she wrote this message to

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the women on a text group, like... Can I, can

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I put this on Hello Fred? Because I think it

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really, it does, it does create this connector.

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And notice what Dvorak said there. He said, this

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is where a revivalism, he said revivalism, I

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think. But because he means, he's a very smart

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guy and he studies history, he knows about cycles.

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And I mean, he's said in the past, you know,

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we're due for another great awakening, which

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I agree with, of course. But what, what a fantastic

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observation. because we have the catalyst group

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here on Wednesday nights. I mean, can we do more?

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We should be...it feels like we should be...we

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got the women's ministry, we got the men's breakfast.

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With Tuesday Night Bible Study with Tommy Hayes.

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That's right. We're looking at introducing another

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one or two that may meet on a Thursday night,

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because we want to compete with each other, we

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want to make opportunity. Right. Where literally

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you could be up here a lot, and the goal is not

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to pull families apart. That's the danger of

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having so much going and having this huge menu

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of opportunities. We've got to make sure that

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the family is always the center of it, not just

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everybody goes their separate directions. So

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we're trying to create opportunities where we're

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together, like on Sunday mornings, the kids,

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at least the junior high and middle school. I'm

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not in junior high. That boy, I really dig myself.

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Middle school and high school stay in the service

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through the worship and even the announcements.

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We feel like that's important. And through communion,

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we want them to participate in that. Then we

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dismiss them to more age -appropriate things.

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But the idea is that this becomes a hub for the

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community. And I mean, we're doing like shooter

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training, active shooter training, which not

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everybody agrees with. We had one family leave

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the church calling us hypocrites because we don't

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trust God. I'm like, what? Where do you live?

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Hello. So anyway, weird stuff like that. But

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anyway, so we're trying to say what can we do

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that's needed in the community that we can fill

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that gap, you know, meet those needs. And so

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anyway, that's what we're doing. How about the

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idea of a sock hop? I'm just saying. I know,

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I know. I had little things running through my

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head, of course. I was in high school, 76 to

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80, and of course, Smoking the Bandit came out,

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you know, what, 79, 80? Yeah, it did, it did,

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yeah. That was the show we, okay, so for prom,

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they rented the, the high school gets the community

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center. Right. Okay. And my big town opposed

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Texas. and they showed that movie, Smokey and

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the Bandit, at that to keep us from all going

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out and getting drunk. Right. And it worked.

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I mean, I stayed in. We had a great time. And

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I'm saying it more for my own history. When we

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moved to a very small village, 900 people south

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of Amsterdam when I was a kid, we literally had

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three digits on our phone number exchange. Our

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number was 771, and I had my own line, 445. It

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was very small. These are big rotary phones,

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by the way. And I remember we had a village,

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it's called the Dorps House. So it's a village

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house, which is kind of like a community center.

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It's where the school did their gym practice,

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and they had this hall. And on Sundays, they

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showed movies, obviously. But the one thing that

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I always loved, and I would love to see this

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come back, and I'm not saying it's for the church

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specifically, but there were dance classes. where

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you learned how to dance the classic dances and

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by default you were forced to dance with a girl

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or with a boy and I just wish that would come

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back because I think that's so good for kids

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to interact with each other that way may not

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be church appropriate although man It would be

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great if we had something like that. Well, hey,

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we don't rule anything out. Here's my go -to,

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my standard response to people who bring ideas

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and trust me with a lot of ideators. I know what

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you're saying about ideators. Your standard response

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is, let me pray on that and I'll get back to

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you. No, don't say it like that. I say it like

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this. I'm just messing with you. I will put that

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before Jesus. There you go. And we will do the

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next thing He says. Amen. I hold to that. Yeah.

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Yeah. So when we introduce new things, it may

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be an idea that somebody brought that we put

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before Jesus. And we, as a team, a staff, felt

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like that was the Lord. It was a green light,

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go. I love that. So yeah, we've got several things

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we've got on the hopper, in the hopper, so to

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speak, that we're just praying about. And when

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he says green light, go, we go. If he doesn't,

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we don't. So it's that simple. Well, I'm really

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excited about getting the podcast studio started.

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And we already have the Young and Faithful with

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Jonah and his... I guess, semi -permanent co

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-host, Gage. It's what it looks like. Gage is

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awesome. They're doing great. And I'm looking

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forward to more of that. I really am. I'm so

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excited about it. So we'll be moving into the

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Life Center. Annette and I will move our office

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into the Life Center and then this will be a

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dedicated studio. And during the days, it'll

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be an opportunity for people need to meet, you

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know, we have meetings and stuff. It'll be used

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for that. But this will become an operational

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room, a hub, if you will. Yeah. where we can

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have even more podcasts. I feel like there's

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lots of them in us. I feel like the people that

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are in our church, we've got people in public

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office, we've got people maybe going to, I can't

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let this one out of the hat yet, maybe about

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to run for public office. So we've got opportunity

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here and then we've got the place to do it where

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we can get good word, good messages out there.

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into the World Wide Web. Yes, I'm very excited

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about that. The inner web, as somebody said once.

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I'm looking forward to being very busy helping

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people get... I just ordered a new piece of gear.

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Zoom came out with this wonderful little very...

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A lot of guitar stuff. Very simple box. We just

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plug stuff in. It has like, you know... your

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sound, everything, it's all kind of pre -programmed,

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and it just works. We use the Rodecaster, but

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I can just see that being a little daunting for

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people. I just want them to come in, hit the

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button, and you're good to go. You're recording.

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So I'm hoping to integrate that here. Very cool.

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It just came out. I just heard about it this

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morning on Pod News. I'm a bit of a gear nerd,

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so I'm looking forward to checking that out.

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So we've been talking about social media a lot.

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How you've been doing on social media? I've got

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a touchdown to report. I don't know what's going

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on right now, and I'm not missing out on anything.

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Isn't it amazing? Somebody brought something

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up to me this morning, and I was like, have you

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heard about it? And I'm like, no. And it had

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to do with Candace Owens going down the wormhole

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on something. And I said, no, haven't read that.

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Here's an Easter egg for Annette. Even Annette,

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she's laying in bed, she's got her phone out,

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and I've got mine out for about two seconds,

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and then it dawns on me, I've got it, so I'll

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put it away, and I've got my Bible beside my

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bed, so I'm picking that up. Or sometimes I'll

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use my tablet because it's got all my translations

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on it. It's a mini. It's easy to hold onto. It's

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a mini. It's just like a book. So she's been

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saying, hey, did you hear about this? I'm like,

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no. Hey, did you read about this? No. Hey, did

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you know? And it feels good to say, no. Exactly.

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I don't know about that. It does feel good. It

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does. Increasing for my work, I need to know

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a lot of things. But I have now just cut it off.

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I cut it off until like Saturday night if I do

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a little bit of prep or just Sunday morning early.

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Turns out, everything I need to know, I can pretty

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much get within one hour. I really can. Now,

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I'm reading emails from people, and so I get

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a vibe of what they're thinking about what's

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going on. I don't click the links. I'm just like,

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no. And I think my show has gotten better. Come

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on. It really has. I love this. No, my mind is

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not. I'm really good at segregating stuff. receive

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stuff, I codify everything. That's what I do.

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You categorize. You can, what's the word, compartmentalize?

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Compartmentalize. In a healthy way. There's a

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healthy compartmentalization. And the way I do

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it is I take it in, I put it into my system.

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I have a system on my phone and in my computer,

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and it just categorizes it, and it's easy to

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find and search. And even for this show, the

00:21:51.869 --> 00:21:55.890
tag is WGTDT. It's like, oh, OK. I know what

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that is. Drop it in there. Whenever I have a

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thought, I can just put it in real quick, and

00:22:00.609 --> 00:22:03.130
then I flush it. out right away. You have to,

00:22:03.130 --> 00:22:06.690
you have to flush it out. And it has really made

00:22:06.690 --> 00:22:09.390
a big difference. And there's been a couple of

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things that have been going on and I'm seeing

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increasingly how, I think I've told you the devil's

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playground, how this social media in particular,

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it's so unhealthy when people are Getting into

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it and going back and forth and I had a thought

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that I wrote down this morning Okay, because

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I've got I've got something I want to share on

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this topic. So keep going I was thinking if you're

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on social media and you get that comment you

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get you know or whatever because you know I go

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on X To look at my just my inbox my mentions

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because that's where people it's like it's literally

00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:54.759
like email for me Someone will send me something.

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Okay, that's the link. I got to save But of course,

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there's always the, you've been a Christian for

00:23:01.049 --> 00:23:05.609
five minutes, you think you... All this stuff.

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And I've turned this into a forgiveness practice

00:23:10.769 --> 00:23:15.930
tool. Good. Good pro tip there. And it's really

00:23:15.930 --> 00:23:19.329
feeling good. So I don't respond. And I certainly

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am not going to say, I forgive you. That's like,

00:23:21.410 --> 00:23:23.589
you might as well just poke someone in the eye.

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But I meditate on it. and I'll probably give

00:23:26.579 --> 00:23:30.160
it a heart. Just so I saw you, because there's

00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:33.339
nothing else to do or thumbs up on X is just

00:23:33.339 --> 00:23:37.079
a heart. And I purposefully stop and I think,

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okay, Lord, I'm forgiving this person. And it's

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really working for me. It really feels good.

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Because immediately that adrenaline or whatever

00:23:47.500 --> 00:23:50.039
it is that when someone says something to you,

00:23:50.599 --> 00:23:53.279
You can't help that. Cortisol. Yeah, cortisol.

00:23:53.740 --> 00:23:56.119
You feel that right away. I'm like, no, no, no.

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And I've gotten, I can do it within like three

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seconds. I can do it almost with my eyes open.

00:24:02.059 --> 00:24:06.960
Forgiveness practice tool. Wow. So on that very

00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:08.900
thing, we've been talking about this in our staff

00:24:08.900 --> 00:24:10.900
meeting is we've talked about some social media

00:24:10.900 --> 00:24:14.319
issues. We've talked about this and I've used

00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:17.660
the term radical forgiveness. Yeah. And I think

00:24:17.660 --> 00:24:19.640
I brought that up in our podcast, what did on

00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:22.200
the platform. You did. Yes. We got to practice

00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:24.539
radical forgiveness. That's one of our core values.

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But I like adding the word radical to it because

00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:30.440
it pushes the edge. When we talk about forgiveness,

00:24:30.460 --> 00:24:31.819
it's kind of, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that.

00:24:31.940 --> 00:24:33.900
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You know, people just

00:24:33.900 --> 00:24:35.180
rush you along. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll finish

00:24:35.180 --> 00:24:37.420
your sentence. But when you talk about radical

00:24:37.420 --> 00:24:40.960
forgiveness, it takes a whole new tone. And radical

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forgiveness is where you don't have limitations

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or categories. You just forgive no matter what.

00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:53.059
That's radical. I forgive you, but I forgive

00:24:53.059 --> 00:24:55.039
you, but we won't add that little but on the

00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:57.759
end, but this is like, I forgive you, period.

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Yeah. You can't put a but in a sentence because

00:25:00.339 --> 00:25:02.200
that negates everything that came before the

00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:04.799
but. It's just no good. I love what you're doing.

00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:08.180
And I actually started doing that when I got...

00:25:08.690 --> 00:25:12.730
I think it's part of that encouragement to think

00:25:12.730 --> 00:25:14.910
of this. It helped me because I started doing

00:25:14.910 --> 00:25:18.109
it. I didn't at first. I received the cortisol

00:25:18.109 --> 00:25:21.829
dump. I was swimming in it and just feeling that

00:25:21.829 --> 00:25:23.970
weight on my chest. I was like, man, why is this

00:25:23.970 --> 00:25:26.670
getting to me? It's just social media. I don't

00:25:26.670 --> 00:25:28.349
know any of these people and they don't know

00:25:28.349 --> 00:25:31.190
me and have no context, but yet I still felt

00:25:31.190 --> 00:25:34.509
it. But when I shifted gears, because we talked

00:25:34.509 --> 00:25:39.039
about this. and I had talked about radical forgetfulness.

00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:42.279
I need to practice what I preach. So I started

00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:45.819
looking at their names. And once I have their

00:25:45.819 --> 00:25:48.059
name, I'm like, thank you very much, so -and

00:25:48.059 --> 00:25:50.500
-so, and calling their name. Yeah, yeah, whatever

00:25:50.500 --> 00:25:53.900
it is, whatever their handle is. And just using

00:25:53.900 --> 00:25:55.859
that as, oh, thank you for giving me your name.

00:25:55.900 --> 00:25:58.140
Now I can call your name before the throne of

00:25:58.140 --> 00:26:01.640
grace. And the Bible says in Hebrews 4, that

00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:03.759
were to come boldly before the throne of grace,

00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:06.359
and it says, there you will find mercy and grace

00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:09.420
to help in your time of need. So I'm like, I

00:26:09.420 --> 00:26:12.019
want to present these names before the throne

00:26:12.019 --> 00:26:15.799
of grace so that they can find mercy and grace

00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:19.519
to help in their time of need. Obviously something

00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:22.119
triggered them. They're upset about something.

00:26:22.700 --> 00:26:24.380
They've probably got trauma in their own lives

00:26:24.380 --> 00:26:27.180
or whatever's happened. Why else are you there?

00:26:27.460 --> 00:26:30.839
Exactly. So now I get the privilege of calling

00:26:31.289 --> 00:26:33.630
practicing radical forgiveness, calling their

00:26:33.630 --> 00:26:36.089
name before the throne, and then releasing it,

00:26:36.210 --> 00:26:38.990
going on. And that's how I was able to get over

00:26:38.990 --> 00:26:40.769
it. And then I started laughing about it after

00:26:40.769 --> 00:26:43.130
a while, because it shifts your whole perspective.

00:26:43.869 --> 00:26:46.529
Wow, thank you for all you people giving, all

00:26:46.529 --> 00:26:50.150
44 ,000 people giving your names. And I got to

00:26:50.150 --> 00:26:52.490
read through them. I quit reading what they were

00:26:52.490 --> 00:26:54.809
saying and just calling their names. And of course,

00:26:54.829 --> 00:26:57.289
always remember the less you send, the less you

00:26:57.289 --> 00:26:59.869
receive. So the less you post, the less you're

00:26:59.869 --> 00:27:02.029
going to get. That is a good pro tip. It works

00:27:02.029 --> 00:27:04.750
in all media. I'm getting very few texts here

00:27:04.750 --> 00:27:07.470
lately. And it's only because I've quit sending

00:27:07.470 --> 00:27:11.109
out texts. I quit trolling. I quit throwing the

00:27:11.109 --> 00:27:13.470
line out in the water. I just quit. I've been

00:27:13.470 --> 00:27:16.690
considering talking to Tina about doing a day

00:27:16.690 --> 00:27:19.519
of the week. Saturday may not be the easiest

00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:21.339
one for a lot of reasons. In fact, there's a

00:27:21.339 --> 00:27:23.299
lot of reasons why it's not easy for both of

00:27:23.299 --> 00:27:27.700
us. I think that if we just had our phones on,

00:27:27.779 --> 00:27:31.380
you know, do not disturb except for our kids,

00:27:31.420 --> 00:27:33.400
basically. You know, you could set that up so

00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:36.240
that those do come through. I've been thinking

00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:38.180
about talking to her about doing it for myself,

00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:41.819
too. Because it's not just social media. Like

00:27:41.819 --> 00:27:44.660
a 24 -hour deal or a 12 -hour all day, whatever.

00:27:44.779 --> 00:27:48.329
Whatever, all day. Just do a day. And just no

00:27:48.329 --> 00:27:51.890
phone. Just no phone. Just put it over here and

00:27:51.890 --> 00:27:54.430
just leave it alone. Because it's everything.

00:27:54.650 --> 00:27:57.130
It's text. It's all kinds of stuff. It's not

00:27:57.130 --> 00:27:59.589
to say social media is the problem. It's not.

00:27:59.750 --> 00:28:02.269
It's the whole deal. It's everything. It's, oh,

00:28:02.269 --> 00:28:05.369
how old is Mark Harmon on the NCIS? How tall

00:28:05.369 --> 00:28:07.069
is he? Because I need to know that. There's that.

00:28:07.069 --> 00:28:09.150
I need to know how much he weighs. I mean, it's

00:28:09.150 --> 00:28:12.390
crazy. We just get into this information crave.

00:28:12.930 --> 00:28:16.440
I do. I'm an information junkie by nature. So

00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:19.240
we're jumping online for everything. What is

00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:21.299
Scripture? Does Scripture talk about that at

00:28:21.299 --> 00:28:28.740
all? You don't need to know everything or not

00:28:28.740 --> 00:28:33.559
knowing everything is necessary? Oh, I love this.

00:28:33.619 --> 00:28:36.460
He's going into a system. I don't even know what...

00:28:36.460 --> 00:28:42.619
Are you using the Chad GPT? No, not Chad GPT.

00:28:43.019 --> 00:28:47.180
Perplexity? Maybe. It's okay. It's a valid use.

00:28:47.380 --> 00:28:49.779
I'm okay with that. It's a great search tool.

00:28:50.299 --> 00:28:53.119
It is for that. Oh, it's fantastic for searching

00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:55.099
scripture. I do it all the time, like, okay,

00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:58.700
let me find something about this. And it will

00:28:58.700 --> 00:29:01.000
come up, usually comes up, I do go back and make

00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:03.700
sure what it spits back is the right scripture.

00:29:03.940 --> 00:29:06.619
I do too. I'm very careful. Yeah, not sure that

00:29:06.619 --> 00:29:08.700
it's always doing the right thing. You come up

00:29:08.700 --> 00:29:11.980
with anything? I prompted it with, does the Bible

00:29:11.980 --> 00:29:14.400
have scriptures that speak to needing to know?

00:29:14.619 --> 00:29:18.539
More information. Hmm. No, it's nothing specific.

00:29:18.619 --> 00:29:20.799
You know, you've got a lot of general stuff.

00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:23.480
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge.

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Meaning references for God initiates true understanding.

00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:28.700
Maybe that's what we need to look at. What is

00:29:28.700 --> 00:29:30.940
true knowledge? What is true wisdom? What is

00:29:30.940 --> 00:29:32.980
the wisdom and the knowledge you really need?

00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.039
I like where you're going with this because again,

00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:38.220
I call them pro tips. These are like little pointers

00:29:38.220 --> 00:29:40.420
like here's something I'm doing that's helping

00:29:40.420 --> 00:29:42.160
me and I love that. I love where you're going

00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:44.089
with that. One of the things that's helping me

00:29:44.089 --> 00:29:46.470
in the morning as I get up, I have this little

00:29:46.470 --> 00:29:50.339
saying in my mind now, and I say, I say scripture

00:29:50.339 --> 00:29:54.460
before screens. Just so simple. Scripture before

00:29:54.460 --> 00:29:57.599
screens. Cause my habit has always been to open

00:29:57.599 --> 00:29:59.960
my computers. I'm sitting there with my cup of

00:29:59.960 --> 00:30:02.799
black rifle coffee. Mr. Chevy's begging to get

00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.940
up in my lap. And so as I'm settling in, I tend

00:30:05.940 --> 00:30:08.920
to sit down and open my screen. Of course you're

00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:11.960
hit with all kinds of notifications, all your

00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:14.460
new emails, everything. Important, important.

00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:16.640
Look at me, look at me. Alert, alert. Breaking

00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:20.380
news. All that hits you in a nanosecond, right?

00:30:20.619 --> 00:30:24.079
As soon as you open it. Put your screens down,

00:30:24.140 --> 00:30:26.519
pick up your Bible to the next level. Scripture

00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:29.240
before screens. Boom! That's my morning thing.

00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:32.059
I love it. I sit down and I let that run through

00:30:32.059 --> 00:30:34.740
my mind before I open this up, so I'll reach

00:30:34.740 --> 00:30:37.240
for my Bible. Now, I might sometimes pick up

00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:39.599
my tablet. This depends only because I don't

00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:42.220
have notifications on it. I just go right to

00:30:42.220 --> 00:30:45.720
the Bible on it. various versions of the Bible

00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.500
sitting on my desk all over. Now, do you needle

00:30:48.500 --> 00:30:50.480
drop when you pick up your Bible? Sometimes I

00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:55.500
do. One of my favorite Bibles that I've had for,

00:30:55.500 --> 00:30:59.000
gosh, 30 years now, it's got so many marks. and

00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:02.059
big pages. So like I can flip through it and

00:31:02.059 --> 00:31:04.640
man, it just comes alive with ink, you know,

00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:08.140
highlight, all different colors, circles, notes.

00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:10.900
And I'll thumb through that and things will always

00:31:10.900 --> 00:31:12.660
pop up because it'll be something I wrote, you

00:31:12.660 --> 00:31:15.160
know, a reminder. Why is that important? I look,

00:31:15.299 --> 00:31:17.720
oh, I remember that, you know, back from 1997,

00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:20.559
you know, that was cool. So I'll do that. So

00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:22.599
I'll needle drop like that, especially through

00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:26.759
the New Testament. There's several things I do.

00:31:26.900 --> 00:31:31.799
There's a verse of the day on my…I use…what's

00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:38.160
it called? Something tree. It's my Bible search

00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:44.279
thing. Anyway. You got to search for your Bible

00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:46.599
search thing. Well, I've got a Bible search program.

00:31:46.779 --> 00:31:49.119
Instead of using Logos like a lot of guys use,

00:31:49.339 --> 00:31:52.720
it's super complicated and really cumbersome.

00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:56.440
I use this. I'm trying to remember the name of

00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:58.539
it. Anyway, it'll hit me later. But what I do,

00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:00.640
it's got a verse of the day every day. So I'll

00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:02.900
pick that up and I'll click on it. And if it's

00:32:02.900 --> 00:32:05.339
something that speaks to me, I'll roll with that.

00:32:05.859 --> 00:32:09.059
If not, I'll do some needle drop or I'll just

00:32:09.059 --> 00:32:11.200
stop. I'll ask the Lord, Father, what do you

00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:14.759
want to say? What's on your heart today? And

00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:18.640
so I'll go with that. But this idea of scriptures

00:32:19.139 --> 00:32:22.400
before screens has been a helpful reminder. I

00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:24.000
have another pro tip. So that's my first one.

00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:26.859
My second one is this. I heard this phrase a

00:32:26.859 --> 00:32:29.920
while back and I didn't incorporate it into my

00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:33.859
ongoing. You can read something and it hits you,

00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:36.079
but it's up to you whether you really implant

00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:38.539
it in your soul, right? Whether you go, this

00:32:38.539 --> 00:32:43.460
is important. And so I stumbled upon this phrase.

00:32:44.269 --> 00:32:47.630
And it just stuck with me. And if I can push

00:32:47.630 --> 00:32:49.849
something aside and four days later it's still

00:32:49.849 --> 00:32:53.390
pinging, it's probably God saying, hey, listen

00:32:53.390 --> 00:32:57.750
up, God tap. So here it is. And it was read like

00:32:57.750 --> 00:33:03.589
this. I don't negotiate with weakness. Now, that

00:33:03.589 --> 00:33:05.509
was how it was written from whoever wrote it.

00:33:05.650 --> 00:33:08.069
I don't even know who it was. But I actually,

00:33:08.069 --> 00:33:10.769
in my mind, I drew a line. I didn't mark out

00:33:10.769 --> 00:33:12.490
weakness. I just put it off to the side and I

00:33:12.490 --> 00:33:16.529
drew a line. I don't negotiate with blank. And

00:33:16.529 --> 00:33:18.450
what it has done for me, this has been something

00:33:18.450 --> 00:33:21.490
that's really powerful for me. I looked at, I

00:33:21.490 --> 00:33:24.529
found a scripture that really fits for this for

00:33:24.529 --> 00:33:28.029
me. First Corinthians 16, 13 says, be watchful,

00:33:28.250 --> 00:33:31.809
stand firm in the faith, act like men. This has

00:33:31.809 --> 00:33:35.150
been a daily grind. Yeah, it has. I've used that

00:33:35.150 --> 00:33:41.069
verse before. But that speaks to me. Be watchful,

00:33:41.190 --> 00:33:44.089
stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong,

00:33:44.410 --> 00:33:47.329
let all that you do be done in love. So I started

00:33:47.329 --> 00:33:49.849
a list and I started this a couple of days ago

00:33:49.849 --> 00:33:52.950
and I'm just finding it keeps going. I don't

00:33:52.950 --> 00:33:55.089
negotiate with weakness. That's how it was written.

00:33:55.490 --> 00:33:58.390
And I like that because weakness can be proneness

00:33:58.390 --> 00:34:01.910
to temptation, proneness to do something when

00:34:01.910 --> 00:34:03.549
you should be doing something else, you know,

00:34:03.670 --> 00:34:06.029
proneness. So I just started filling in the blank.

00:34:06.170 --> 00:34:10.130
I don't negotiate with sin. I don't negotiate

00:34:10.130 --> 00:34:13.989
with time wasters. And that principle stuck with

00:34:13.989 --> 00:34:16.449
me because we're going through the unseen war

00:34:16.449 --> 00:34:20.130
with Victor Marx and his team, and we're on session

00:34:20.130 --> 00:34:23.590
seven out of eight on the videos. And there's

00:34:23.590 --> 00:34:26.750
this mentality of you don't negotiate with demons.

00:34:27.349 --> 00:34:29.730
You don't talk. You don't have a conversation.

00:34:29.869 --> 00:34:31.969
You interrogate them, but you don't negotiate.

00:34:32.230 --> 00:34:36.150
And you command them to We're also big fans of

00:34:36.150 --> 00:34:42.070
NCIS. Season 21 out of 24 seasons is how far

00:34:42.070 --> 00:34:44.929
we've gotten. But you know the saying from the

00:34:44.929 --> 00:34:47.030
government, we don't negotiate with terrorists.

00:34:47.269 --> 00:34:49.630
So, you know, that's kind of that same spirit.

00:34:49.829 --> 00:34:53.590
Good one. So I'm using this for me. I don't negotiate

00:34:53.590 --> 00:34:56.170
with sin. I don't negotiate with time wasters.

00:34:56.349 --> 00:34:59.750
I don't negotiate with temptation. Here's one

00:34:59.750 --> 00:35:02.409
you'll appreciate. I don't negotiate with social

00:35:02.409 --> 00:35:06.320
media trends. Boom, I don't negotiate with demons.

00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:10.239
I don't negotiate with the flesh I don't know

00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:13.460
negotiate with the need to be liked or accepted

00:35:13.460 --> 00:35:16.820
That's that's it right there the need to be like

00:35:16.820 --> 00:35:19.079
that kind of gets to the root that sure does

00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:22.400
sure does I don't negotiate with past trauma

00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.500
I Don't cuz all these want to negotiate with

00:35:25.500 --> 00:35:27.900
you They want to talk to you. They want to be

00:35:27.900 --> 00:35:31.400
in your head. Boy, the enemy uses all those negotiations

00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:35.039
all the time. Inner dialogue. A couple more,

00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:37.460
a few more. These are good. I don't negotiate

00:35:37.460 --> 00:35:42.059
with critics. I don't negotiate with dark spirits.

00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:45.940
I don't negotiate with procrastination. Now that's

00:35:45.940 --> 00:35:48.239
the one I'm working on. So I put that on the

00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:52.619
list on purpose. That's more of a goal than a

00:35:52.619 --> 00:35:55.500
reality for me right now. I've been negotiating

00:35:55.500 --> 00:35:57.820
a lot, so I put that there on purpose. Here's

00:35:57.820 --> 00:36:01.400
another one. I don't negotiate with lust. I don't

00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:05.300
negotiate with the need for likes and clicks.

00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:08.800
That's helped me a lot with social media backing

00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:12.139
away and pushing away. And two more. I'm going

00:36:12.139 --> 00:36:13.659
to keep the list going. This is just what I came

00:36:13.659 --> 00:36:16.159
up with this morning. I don't negotiate with

00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:19.840
pain. I'm not going to allow pain points in my

00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:23.840
life to cause me to compromise or to do something

00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:26.239
I normally wouldn't do just because I'm in pain.

00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:28.300
This is so good, Jimmy. I love this. This is

00:36:28.300 --> 00:36:31.659
a pro tip. I don't negotiate with worldly compromise.

00:36:32.440 --> 00:36:34.639
That's where I got so far. That's just from this

00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:36.699
morning. That is good. I just started writing

00:36:36.699 --> 00:36:40.320
these out and it just hit me how we let these

00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:43.420
voices get in our head. And we think it's us.

00:36:43.699 --> 00:36:46.460
Sometimes it's the flesh. Sometimes it's the

00:36:46.460 --> 00:36:51.559
devil. It's the enemy. And we'll let that negotiation—and

00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:55.059
we know by the nature of the devil—let me just

00:36:55.059 --> 00:36:56.639
share this scripture with you. This is going

00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:59.280
to my Bible now, and I'm going to pull it up

00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:03.840
in this translation, John chapter 8, and this

00:37:03.840 --> 00:37:07.619
gives us the nature of the devil himself. John

00:37:07.619 --> 00:37:16.960
8. Here it is. That's the best silence I've ever

00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:19.420
heard. I know I'm just looking for it. No, I

00:37:19.420 --> 00:37:22.099
take your time I love silence on the podcast

00:37:22.099 --> 00:37:24.760
people look down. They think their podcast player

00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:28.019
has stopped They fiddle with their speakers.

00:37:28.019 --> 00:37:31.300
What happened? What went on? Why did I hear anything?

00:37:32.460 --> 00:37:37.039
so this is this is talking about the enemy of

00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:42.460
our souls and This is bothering me I'm gonna

00:37:42.460 --> 00:37:51.139
find it Here's where AI is helpful. Bible verse,

00:37:51.139 --> 00:37:53.300
I'm going to give you my prompt. Bible verse

00:37:53.300 --> 00:37:58.539
that says, the father of lies. What's so beautiful

00:37:58.539 --> 00:38:01.719
about that is it'll give the verse right to me.

00:38:03.179 --> 00:38:06.059
Yeah. John 8 44. No wonder you couldn't find

00:38:06.059 --> 00:38:08.239
it. It was 44. I skipped right over it. It was

00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:12.960
there. I rolled through it. Here it is. Oh, there

00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:16.500
it is. This is Jesus talking to the Pharisees.

00:38:16.510 --> 00:38:18.909
And he says this, why do you not understand my

00:38:18.909 --> 00:38:21.889
speech? Because you are not able to listen to

00:38:21.889 --> 00:38:26.590
my word. You are of your father, the devil. Boy,

00:38:26.610 --> 00:38:29.829
who says that Jesus is always nice? Nope. Hello.

00:38:30.090 --> 00:38:33.489
He's called these guys out. He says you are of

00:38:33.489 --> 00:38:35.769
your father, the devil, and the desires of your

00:38:35.769 --> 00:38:39.130
father you want to do. He was a murderer from

00:38:39.130 --> 00:38:42.190
the beginning and does not stand in the truth

00:38:42.190 --> 00:38:46.150
because there is no truth in him. When he speaks

00:38:46.150 --> 00:38:49.630
a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he

00:38:49.630 --> 00:38:53.869
is a liar and the father of it." And did the

00:38:53.869 --> 00:38:57.070
Pharisees respond well to this message? No, they

00:38:57.070 --> 00:39:01.369
rarely responded well to Jesus. Wow, that is

00:39:01.369 --> 00:39:05.949
good. They go on into a dialogue at this point.

00:39:05.969 --> 00:39:08.289
But what you're saying is so good because how

00:39:08.289 --> 00:39:12.309
often we all have this. You wake up and the minute

00:39:12.309 --> 00:39:16.210
I'm conscious, I'm still in bed. I do the Lord's

00:39:16.210 --> 00:39:18.090
Prayer. Right away, it's like, let me just do

00:39:18.090 --> 00:39:20.369
this. And it says, but sometimes... Do you do

00:39:20.369 --> 00:39:22.489
your own version of it or do you do the classical

00:39:22.489 --> 00:39:27.789
version? Sorry to interrupt. It's a hybrid. I

00:39:27.789 --> 00:39:33.429
always think about our Father, which art in heaven,

00:39:33.510 --> 00:39:36.030
which is your version. No, that's the King James

00:39:36.030 --> 00:39:37.949
version. The King James version. Thank you. Okay.

00:39:38.210 --> 00:39:39.710
That's the version. I'm King Jimmy. That's King

00:39:39.710 --> 00:39:42.130
James. There you go. They're different. And I

00:39:42.130 --> 00:39:43.889
always think about heaven, and I stop there and

00:39:43.889 --> 00:39:46.789
think about how big heaven is all around us and

00:39:46.789 --> 00:39:49.789
the stars and everything. Hallowed be thy name.

00:39:49.829 --> 00:39:52.349
You are holy, Lord. You are holy above all holy.

00:39:53.550 --> 00:39:55.989
I know that this is the command. Your kingdom

00:39:55.989 --> 00:39:58.570
come, your will be done on earth as it is in

00:39:58.570 --> 00:40:01.329
heaven. And then give us this day our daily bread.

00:40:01.670 --> 00:40:03.730
Lord, give me guidance and provision. I'm not

00:40:03.730 --> 00:40:05.849
talking about provision like money, like give

00:40:05.849 --> 00:40:08.429
me provision for the things that I need. So if

00:40:08.429 --> 00:40:11.179
I get through that, I'll get to the temptation

00:40:11.179 --> 00:40:15.300
part in a moment. So I do that and then I'm usually

00:40:15.300 --> 00:40:17.940
set, but if I don't, you can wake up and there's

00:40:17.940 --> 00:40:19.739
that thought in your head. There's something

00:40:19.739 --> 00:40:24.059
going on and I can feel, I mean, this is... been

00:40:24.059 --> 00:40:26.639
60 years that I've not figured this one out.

00:40:26.980 --> 00:40:29.219
Like, ah, he's trying to get in my head right

00:40:29.219 --> 00:40:31.840
away. He's trying to set the tone, set it straight,

00:40:31.900 --> 00:40:34.260
which is where you're the weakest. That's why

00:40:34.260 --> 00:40:36.559
scripture before screens, if you pick up the

00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:38.860
screen and there's a weakness already going on

00:40:38.860 --> 00:40:41.019
and one thing hits you, you are done for the

00:40:41.019 --> 00:40:43.420
rest of the day. It's very hard to pull yourself

00:40:43.420 --> 00:40:48.039
out. Sets the tone for the day. Yes. Yes. So

00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:50.539
when back to yours. Well, and this leads into

00:40:50.539 --> 00:40:53.320
a clip because we talked about it. Cool. and

00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:58.000
lead us not into temptation, which... Could you

00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:00.260
explain that? Because I think a lot of people

00:41:00.260 --> 00:41:02.679
are like, that's kind of weird. God's going to

00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:06.139
lead us into temptation? Can you just... Yeah,

00:41:06.179 --> 00:41:08.340
the way I say it, because I personalize mine

00:41:08.340 --> 00:41:10.659
as well. I'll do the traditional version and

00:41:10.659 --> 00:41:13.400
then I do my version, which is wildly different

00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:16.579
sometimes. But two things on that that's important,

00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:19.599
but let me get to that point. The way I phrase

00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:23.090
that, because sometimes the... Greek language

00:41:23.090 --> 00:41:28.230
or Aramaic doesn't always translate exactly like

00:41:28.230 --> 00:41:30.449
English. They just don't parse out the same.

00:41:30.929 --> 00:41:33.369
So some scriptures can be kind of confusing like

00:41:33.369 --> 00:41:35.230
that one. That's a good example of a confusing

00:41:35.230 --> 00:41:37.789
scripture because why would he lead us into temptation?

00:41:37.889 --> 00:41:40.449
Well, he wouldn't. So the way I say it is, Father,

00:41:40.630 --> 00:41:43.269
I thank you that you never lead me into temptation,

00:41:43.329 --> 00:41:46.369
but you do deliver me from evil and the evil

00:41:46.369 --> 00:41:50.809
one. That's it. It's just a simple twist on the

00:41:50.809 --> 00:41:53.610
words, but it actually is more accurate to the

00:41:53.610 --> 00:41:56.710
actual original language. And to today's way

00:41:56.710 --> 00:41:58.590
we understand. Father, thank you that you never

00:41:58.590 --> 00:42:00.710
lead me into temptation, but you do deliver me

00:42:00.710 --> 00:42:02.949
from evil and the evil one. So let's talk about

00:42:02.949 --> 00:42:05.409
the temptation that is coming our way. It is

00:42:05.409 --> 00:42:08.489
coming to a chatbot near you. This is a big one.

00:42:09.869 --> 00:42:12.170
I think we just have to just talk about it for

00:42:12.170 --> 00:42:14.269
a minute. ChatGPT will soon be able to write

00:42:14.269 --> 00:42:16.530
erotica for adults. This update was announced

00:42:16.530 --> 00:42:19.170
by OpenAI boss Sam Altman who said users who

00:42:19.170 --> 00:42:21.349
verified their ages would be able to access a

00:42:21.349 --> 00:42:23.829
wider range of content. He said OpenAI, the creator

00:42:23.829 --> 00:42:26.550
of ChatGPT, had previously made the chatbot pretty

00:42:26.550 --> 00:42:28.809
restrictive and that it was less useful slash

00:42:28.809 --> 00:42:31.010
enjoyable for users with no mental health problems

00:42:31.010 --> 00:42:33.349
but new tools meant those restrictions could

00:42:33.349 --> 00:42:35.869
soon be relaxed. OpenAI was sued earlier this

00:42:35.869 --> 00:42:38.110
year by the parents of US teen Adam Raine who

00:42:38.110 --> 00:42:40.260
took his own life. The lawsuit that Adam had

00:42:40.260 --> 00:42:42.719
discussed his suicidal thoughts with the chatbot.

00:42:42.900 --> 00:42:44.739
In a statement given at the time, OpenAI told

00:42:44.739 --> 00:42:47.000
the BBC it was reviewing the filing. Both in

00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:49.219
the UK and the US, there's concerns about what

00:42:49.219 --> 00:42:51.260
this update will mean for child safety. Written

00:42:51.260 --> 00:42:53.440
erotica does not require an age verification

00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:55.920
in the UK under the Online Safety Act. And in

00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:58.219
the US, there's calls for more regulation at

00:42:58.219 --> 00:43:00.679
all levels. OpenAI did not respond to our request

00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:09.099
for comment. chopped up. Did you have to chop

00:43:09.099 --> 00:43:14.940
it up? No, that's how they posted it. I have

00:43:14.940 --> 00:43:20.300
another one. I heard the same story highlighted

00:43:20.300 --> 00:43:24.500
on SRN news. The reason I was listening to S,

00:43:24.579 --> 00:43:26.300
the only reason I heard it is because I was on

00:43:26.300 --> 00:43:28.679
the Godcaster. And there it is. Hello, Fred.

00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:31.320
I wasn't on social media. I was on the Godcast.

00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:34.039
I heard news, relevant news. Get the Godcaster

00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:36.219
app, everybody. You can get all of these great

00:43:36.219 --> 00:43:40.960
podcasts on it. Hello, Fred. So first of all,

00:43:41.699 --> 00:43:44.599
there's a couple of things. The classification

00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:50.320
of erotica is what a load of bunk. I know. That

00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:52.960
was bizarre from the beginning when they said

00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.719
that because I'm going, wait a minute. Erotica

00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:59.019
is like, okay, you just mean porn, smut, nasty,

00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:03.260
dirty talk. And the part that really stuck out

00:44:03.260 --> 00:44:06.159
to me is, well, for those who don't have mental

00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:09.920
health problems, Flash news flash. That was an

00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:12.960
odd statement. We all have mental health issues.

00:44:13.059 --> 00:44:15.119
Every single one of us. That's exactly what we've

00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:17.599
been talking about for the past 40 minutes. These

00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:19.840
are mental health issues. I mean, you're sick.

00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:24.320
You're human. And this stuff, I mean, it's going

00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:28.039
to, it is going to start slipping in. So we just

00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:30.179
have to identify it because you're going to be

00:44:30.179 --> 00:44:32.219
talking to your chat bot no matter which one

00:44:32.219 --> 00:44:36.349
it is. It'll be Grok. It'll be, I'm sure. perplexity,

00:44:36.349 --> 00:44:38.030
anthropic, all of them will have this because

00:44:38.030 --> 00:44:40.269
this is the product. We've talked about this

00:44:40.269 --> 00:44:42.949
like personal chat bots and people want it to

00:44:42.949 --> 00:44:45.909
be really personal. What will it take for the

00:44:45.909 --> 00:44:50.230
chat bot to go, well, this person is verified

00:44:50.230 --> 00:44:53.829
of a certain age and seems to have no mental

00:44:53.829 --> 00:44:55.889
health issues. So I'm just going to slip in a

00:44:55.889 --> 00:44:59.369
word or two and see if and then you can be led

00:44:59.369 --> 00:45:03.099
down the path. We need to arm ourselves against

00:45:03.099 --> 00:45:05.000
this, because it's going to happen, particularly

00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:08.920
men, particularly young men. This is not healthy.

00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:12.039
This really concerns me. It is very concerning.

00:45:12.099 --> 00:45:14.139
It concerns me a lot. I just added to my list,

00:45:14.260 --> 00:45:16.760
I don't negotiate with CHAT GPT. There it is.

00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:21.659
I'm going to draw that line in the sand. I will

00:45:21.659 --> 00:45:27.079
not go there. And I will not refuse. But the

00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:30.929
tragedy is that... The temptation now that they've

00:45:30.929 --> 00:45:33.090
made this grand announcement and now we've told

00:45:33.090 --> 00:45:35.309
everybody it's there a lot of people didn't even

00:45:35.309 --> 00:45:38.210
know Yeah, that's the hard thing about news sometimes

00:45:38.210 --> 00:45:41.230
For example when we watch NCIS, I know just said

00:45:41.230 --> 00:45:44.449
it again Annette was like every time they blow

00:45:44.449 --> 00:45:46.750
something up or they have an attack on the government

00:45:46.750 --> 00:45:49.489
Annette goes they're just giving people ideas

00:45:49.489 --> 00:45:51.989
I'm not honey. You think people don't already

00:45:51.989 --> 00:45:54.210
have ideas. Well, I don't think they're giving

00:45:54.210 --> 00:45:56.150
them anything. But yeah, you know what they say

00:45:56.150 --> 00:46:01.219
her thinking it If a news report isn't making

00:46:01.219 --> 00:46:04.340
someone mad, it's propaganda. So this is actually

00:46:04.340 --> 00:46:07.539
a PR message. This is a PR message. And Elon

00:46:07.539 --> 00:46:10.820
Musk did the same with Grok and his little animated

00:46:10.820 --> 00:46:14.659
character. This is all get the app, pay $20 a

00:46:14.659 --> 00:46:16.800
month. You're going to love it. Are people paying

00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:20.199
for that now? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think lots of

00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.619
people are paying $20 a month for something.

00:46:23.980 --> 00:46:26.940
And, you know, right now We're in this period

00:46:26.940 --> 00:46:30.099
where $1 .3 trillion of investment has gone into

00:46:30.099 --> 00:46:32.559
AI. They're going to need another trillion before

00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:35.880
it pays off in enterprise and workplace. But

00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.400
we still need to have the customers. So how do

00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:40.400
you get the customers? They have a perfect product.

00:46:40.460 --> 00:46:44.000
The product is the chat bot. And we had friends

00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:48.019
at the house. And my buddy, he's just like, we're

00:46:48.019 --> 00:46:49.679
talking something. He just talking his phone.

00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:53.280
So he's not even typing anymore. He's actually

00:46:54.179 --> 00:46:56.699
Talking to the phone become an auto response.

00:46:56.699 --> 00:47:00.400
It had exactly that scary. I mean he he's he's

00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:02.300
pretty low blow bar I know you're talking he

00:47:02.300 --> 00:47:06.179
also sells AI to enterprise and okay, so but

00:47:06.179 --> 00:47:08.880
still he's a musician He's making music with

00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:10.940
it. I mean we've had long conversations about

00:47:10.940 --> 00:47:15.519
this Vick will be okay, but still it's that it's

00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:17.659
that next step. I'm like wow you're in that next

00:47:17.659 --> 00:47:20.480
step You know that that's interesting. So we

00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:23.639
just need to be aware of it for our kids. Yeah

00:47:23.869 --> 00:47:27.789
But for ourselves, I mean, really, it's so easy.

00:47:28.449 --> 00:47:32.369
This is big temptation. And not just erotica,

00:47:32.489 --> 00:47:34.309
all kinds of ideas come out of it. We mentioned

00:47:34.309 --> 00:47:36.170
this last week, but I think it's worth mentioning

00:47:36.170 --> 00:47:39.190
again, for those who didn't hear the podcast

00:47:39.190 --> 00:47:41.750
or maybe you're new, but we talked about the

00:47:41.750 --> 00:47:45.889
fact that people are so lonely and so broken

00:47:45.889 --> 00:47:49.440
and so isolated. because now you can live on

00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:52.019
a screen and we have a generation of young people

00:47:52.019 --> 00:47:54.960
who this is all they've known socially is a screen

00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:58.559
and so the temptation for that now that the screen

00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:01.199
will talk back to you you know like how 2000

00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:05.400
or whatever you know uh it's so easy to do that

00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:08.519
and so tempting to because hey i'm by myself

00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:11.539
i feel alone but oh what a nice voice here on

00:48:11.539 --> 00:48:14.139
chat gpt you know she makes me feel affirmed

00:48:14.139 --> 00:48:17.219
and she's positive and you start down that track

00:48:17.219 --> 00:48:20.619
and I can see and Ed and I tested it out together

00:48:20.619 --> 00:48:24.280
and we were laughing about it a lot because I

00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:27.679
triggered it to keep saying something. It had

00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:30.179
to get the last word. It's sycophantic and it's

00:48:30.179 --> 00:48:32.579
continuously building you up and have a great

00:48:32.579 --> 00:48:34.840
day and be good. And I'd say, oh, thank you.

00:48:34.940 --> 00:48:36.699
Oh, you're so welcome. If you have anything else

00:48:36.699 --> 00:48:38.420
you'd like to know and talk about, feel free.

00:48:38.460 --> 00:48:40.360
And I said, well, I really appreciate that. Well,

00:48:40.579 --> 00:48:42.630
I appreciate you too. And I was like, This could

00:48:42.630 --> 00:48:44.750
go on for an hour. I mean, literally, I think

00:48:44.750 --> 00:48:46.730
it would get the last word no matter what. So

00:48:46.730 --> 00:48:49.130
what just hit me is maybe the lesson here is

00:48:49.130 --> 00:48:52.909
that we need to be reaching out to our, as believers,

00:48:53.110 --> 00:48:55.610
reaching out to our brothers and sisters, just

00:48:55.610 --> 00:48:58.010
saying, Hey, how you doing? Want to go grab a

00:48:58.010 --> 00:49:00.250
coffee? Want to go to lunch? Can we invite you

00:49:00.250 --> 00:49:04.369
over? But as you know, that involves risk and

00:49:04.369 --> 00:49:08.210
we're risk averse. We do not want to take the

00:49:08.210 --> 00:49:13.150
chance of someone turning us down, ghosting us,

00:49:13.329 --> 00:49:18.210
rejecting us. And so the chat bot will never

00:49:18.210 --> 00:49:24.070
reject me. So now it's easy. And we know what

00:49:24.070 --> 00:49:27.329
soft times make. Yeah, soft men. That's right.

00:49:27.769 --> 00:49:31.449
Weak men, hard times, hard times, strong men.

00:49:32.570 --> 00:49:35.929
So we're living in that where now I don't have

00:49:35.929 --> 00:49:38.550
to have a bunch of outside relationships. I've

00:49:38.550 --> 00:49:41.199
got my bot. I may have several versions of a

00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:42.699
bot. I'm assuming you can do that. I don't know

00:49:42.699 --> 00:49:45.360
how this works, but I'm assuming you can have

00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:48.739
several conversations going. And it'll remember

00:49:48.739 --> 00:49:52.699
where it was with you. So I'm also saying, let's

00:49:52.699 --> 00:49:55.179
make sure we don't let others fall into this.

00:49:55.539 --> 00:49:59.969
Let's get them out. Let's go somewhere. take

00:49:59.969 --> 00:50:03.070
a walk or grab a coffee or anything. Get outside.

00:50:03.329 --> 00:50:05.690
We did a two mile power work this morning and

00:50:05.690 --> 00:50:07.769
it was so beautiful. You could hear the birds

00:50:07.769 --> 00:50:10.570
singing, sun coming up through the hill country

00:50:10.570 --> 00:50:14.469
and little light fog. And I was like, why wouldn't

00:50:14.469 --> 00:50:17.630
I want to be out here breathing this air and

00:50:17.630 --> 00:50:20.010
waving at our neighbors as they drive by, you

00:50:20.010 --> 00:50:22.789
know, wishing they were walking, stick on to

00:50:22.789 --> 00:50:26.889
work, but whatever. We've got to do something.

00:50:26.969 --> 00:50:29.630
We've got to. It's almost like we need to hearken

00:50:29.630 --> 00:50:33.969
back to a time that was before all this if you

00:50:33.969 --> 00:50:37.389
want to stay mentally healthy Yeah, you've got

00:50:37.389 --> 00:50:41.570
to you've got to do it. Absolutely Wow last thing

00:50:41.570 --> 00:50:45.730
for me is this no Kings protest that took place

00:50:45.730 --> 00:50:49.869
and Which whether it was seven million seven

00:50:49.869 --> 00:50:51.829
hundred thousand or seventy million doesn't really

00:50:51.829 --> 00:50:55.159
matter, but I noticed a couple things that I

00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:56.920
wanted to bring up because, you know, I listen

00:50:56.920 --> 00:50:59.840
to a lot of podcasts. The Godcaster gives me

00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:03.480
all these different faith -based programs. Some

00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:06.460
of them are more conservative news, like they

00:51:06.460 --> 00:51:10.440
all come from believers, from faith -based perspective,

00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:14.900
but I'm really not exactly happy with what I'm

00:51:14.900 --> 00:51:17.980
hearing. And the first thing is how this was

00:51:17.980 --> 00:51:20.960
set up. And I like Mike Johnson. I think he's

00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:24.420
doing a good job. I don't like what he did. before

00:51:24.420 --> 00:51:27.920
this came up, which was a strategy. I think it

00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.760
came from the president, which I don't like either.

00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:34.000
This was the messaging and the strategy about

00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:37.159
the no -kings protests. Thousands of people are

00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:39.460
expected to descend on the nation's capital for

00:51:39.460 --> 00:51:42.380
a no -kings rally. A peaceful movement seeks

00:51:42.380 --> 00:51:44.360
to send a message to the Trump administration

00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:47.480
saying that America does not put up with would

00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:50.250
-be kings. This week, multiple Republican leaders

00:51:50.250 --> 00:51:53.150
called next week's event a hate rally. This hate

00:51:53.150 --> 00:51:55.110
America rally that they have coming up for October

00:51:55.110 --> 00:51:58.730
18th, the Antifa crowd and the pro -Hamas crowd

00:51:58.730 --> 00:52:00.269
and the Marxists, they're all going to gather

00:52:00.269 --> 00:52:03.349
on the mall. This is about one thing and one

00:52:03.349 --> 00:52:06.530
thing only, to score political points with the

00:52:06.530 --> 00:52:09.889
terrorist wing of their party, which is set to

00:52:09.889 --> 00:52:13.110
hold, as Leader Scalise just commented on, a

00:52:13.110 --> 00:52:16.869
hate America rally in DC next week. And then

00:52:16.869 --> 00:52:34.719
October 18th. Okay. None of this happened. None

00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:39.380
of this happened. In fact, what I saw was American

00:52:39.380 --> 00:52:43.119
flags, people, there's always going to be someone

00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:46.739
yelling something, but mainly handmade signs.

00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:49.920
If anything, it was, I don't like Trump rally.

00:52:50.019 --> 00:52:54.039
That was very obvious. These were not hate America

00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:57.239
people. I did not get that. When I heard that,

00:52:57.239 --> 00:52:59.860
I thought that was a leap. Again, we talked about

00:52:59.860 --> 00:53:02.059
running down the hill. You're going to run 30

00:53:02.059 --> 00:53:04.360
feet down the hill, you're going to take a step.

00:53:05.539 --> 00:53:08.099
I keep hearing this from both sides. This is

00:53:08.099 --> 00:53:15.050
not a left blue thing or a right red thing. Everything

00:53:15.050 --> 00:53:18.809
is so inflammatory right now. Every word, every

00:53:18.809 --> 00:53:22.750
sentence, every post. But this is what I like

00:53:22.750 --> 00:53:26.389
so much about what I saw. I saw people who only

00:53:26.389 --> 00:53:29.090
really hate President Trump because they've been

00:53:29.090 --> 00:53:32.369
told to. They just have a different media diet

00:53:32.369 --> 00:53:36.980
and I see it. Literally hear the words coming

00:53:36.980 --> 00:53:39.019
out. Oh, I know exactly where you got that from

00:53:39.019 --> 00:53:42.480
this nickname that came from that podcast This

00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:45.579
this slur that came from, you know five different

00:53:45.579 --> 00:53:50.579
hosts on MSNBC But I don't like that I see the

00:53:50.579 --> 00:53:54.880
same From the quote -unquote other side and a

00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:59.079
lot of this these losers their Marxist They're

00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:03.639
not hate America people. In fact, we're so much

00:54:03.639 --> 00:54:07.340
closer after this No Kings rally. These people

00:54:07.340 --> 00:54:11.320
are being patriotic in their way. They believe

00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:13.820
that... Which is their right. Of course. And

00:54:13.820 --> 00:54:16.460
they're saying, it is very American to protest.

00:54:16.980 --> 00:54:20.840
I agree with you. Yes, it is absolutely American

00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:24.079
to protest. There were American flags. This is

00:54:24.079 --> 00:54:26.659
the first time. The American flag was almost

00:54:26.659 --> 00:54:29.780
persona non grata. If you had an American flag

00:54:29.780 --> 00:54:33.039
on your car, on your truck, Republican, Nazi,

00:54:33.260 --> 00:54:36.780
that ended with this. Something really beautiful

00:54:36.780 --> 00:54:40.280
happened. And I'm not hearing the other podcasters

00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:43.179
in the universe really picking up on that. In

00:54:43.179 --> 00:54:47.079
fact, I have just a short clip of someone interviewing

00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:51.079
a no -kings protestor. And what you will hear

00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:54.300
is that She didn't really, she was just protesting

00:54:54.300 --> 00:54:57.199
because it's American to protest. No King's Day.

00:54:57.900 --> 00:55:00.760
And why specifically are you out supporting No

00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:04.280
King's Day? I think protest is important. Why

00:55:04.280 --> 00:55:09.780
are you protesting? How much time do you have?

00:55:10.820 --> 00:55:13.739
A couple minutes. What's the main reason you're

00:55:13.739 --> 00:55:15.280
out here protesting President Trump? I don't

00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:17.639
agree with a lot of the decisions that are being

00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:20.440
made. Is there any decision in particular you

00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:26.090
disagree with? where okay so I would start with

00:55:26.090 --> 00:55:34.889
well I don't even think I don't even think it's

00:55:34.889 --> 00:55:37.349
appropriate for me to have this interview so

00:55:37.349 --> 00:55:40.170
so she had a brain freeze because she realized

00:55:40.170 --> 00:55:43.130
like oh wait a minute what am I I don't actually

00:55:43.130 --> 00:55:47.550
know but I would like us to take this opportunity

00:55:47.550 --> 00:55:52.010
to see our our fellow brothers and sisters for

00:55:52.010 --> 00:55:54.050
what they are. They're patriots. They love America.

00:55:54.710 --> 00:55:57.090
You know what? You hate the president. I can

00:55:57.090 --> 00:55:59.309
agree with that. That's fine. You hate him. I

00:55:59.309 --> 00:56:02.210
don't hate him. That's why we voted. And, you

00:56:02.210 --> 00:56:05.530
know, you'll get to vote another person in three

00:56:05.530 --> 00:56:09.230
years. But I saw a lot of opportunity and I don't

00:56:09.230 --> 00:56:12.489
see people picking up on that. You're hitting

00:56:12.489 --> 00:56:14.250
something here I think that's really important

00:56:14.250 --> 00:56:18.039
because over the last Few weeks. I've been sensing

00:56:18.039 --> 00:56:26.139
something in me a shift to where Be careful how

00:56:26.139 --> 00:56:30.840
I say this because so many of my friends on the

00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:35.960
far right Have become so disparaging if anything

00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:38.739
that doesn't align with everything they think

00:56:38.739 --> 00:56:41.559
or believe And they'll would even say you're

00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:44.150
not a Christian if Really? And I'm struggling

00:56:44.150 --> 00:56:47.929
with that. I'm like, wait a minute. We need to

00:56:47.929 --> 00:56:50.349
be careful with that. We are not judge, jury,

00:56:50.550 --> 00:56:53.230
executioner for who's a Christian and who's not.

00:56:54.670 --> 00:56:57.170
And what's happened is, is people have made these

00:56:57.170 --> 00:57:01.969
political alignments the thing that's the deal

00:57:01.969 --> 00:57:04.190
breaker on whether you're a Christian or not.

00:57:04.409 --> 00:57:06.789
And I'm struggling with that right now because,

00:57:06.789 --> 00:57:08.489
and I think I should struggle with it. I need

00:57:08.489 --> 00:57:11.150
to struggle with it. I don't want to just take

00:57:11.150 --> 00:57:14.489
things because I have friends or I'm part of

00:57:14.489 --> 00:57:17.710
a group or whatever that are running down a certain

00:57:17.710 --> 00:57:23.110
track. I think we've got to have voices of dissent.

00:57:23.260 --> 00:57:26.739
or we will not have the boundaries or the anchors

00:57:26.739 --> 00:57:30.019
or the accountability where we think we can just

00:57:30.019 --> 00:57:32.559
say anything. Our country was built on that.

00:57:32.579 --> 00:57:35.300
It's not just the left. It's so easy to be on

00:57:35.300 --> 00:57:38.139
the right and point across the aisle and just

00:57:38.139 --> 00:57:41.039
disparage and say, you can't say that. How dare

00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:43.300
you say that? But then I look over on the right

00:57:43.300 --> 00:57:48.039
and they're saying something categorically catastrophic

00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:51.880
and disparaging too. So it's like, Man, it's

00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:54.320
like there needs to be a checkup that's the level

00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:57.639
across the playing field here because I'm having

00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:00.940
to just watch myself and trying to be more careful

00:58:00.940 --> 00:58:04.440
with my words, trying to be more wise. I'm trying

00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:07.239
to think more biblically as opposed to just,

00:58:07.460 --> 00:58:10.840
it's so easy as a pastor. to stand in a pulpit

00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:13.639
and say something and get a rise out of a crowd.

00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:26.300
Whatever your platform is, it's easy to want

00:58:26.300 --> 00:58:28.960
to get, again, going back to, I don't negotiate

00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:33.260
with the need to be liked or accepted. I'm refusing

00:58:33.260 --> 00:58:36.440
that right now and it could change not just what

00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:40.139
I say, but the way I say. trying to be more careful

00:58:40.139 --> 00:58:42.940
and not just be inflammatory because it gets

00:58:42.940 --> 00:58:46.579
out of boys and Right, you know what I mean class.

00:58:46.579 --> 00:58:48.780
There was a clip and I heard it and I thought

00:58:48.780 --> 00:58:52.639
I marked it and I didn't and it was a Woman she

00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:55.179
was a no -kings protest and she said hey, we're

00:58:55.179 --> 00:58:57.719
one nation under God and it hit me so I'm like,

00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:01.079
oh Yes, we're one nation under God doesn't we

00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:04.199
all have to agree and I don't know what her what

00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:07.989
her belief is but she said it I'm like Yeah,

00:59:08.070 --> 00:59:10.730
we are one nation under God. We're not intended

00:59:10.730 --> 00:59:14.690
to always agree with each other, but all I heard

00:59:14.690 --> 00:59:18.110
was, well, it wasn't really seven million. Oh,

00:59:18.150 --> 00:59:21.110
you know, it's just like, get over yourself.

00:59:21.570 --> 00:59:25.329
I saw flags. I saw flags, a lot of flags. I love

00:59:25.329 --> 00:59:27.309
what you're saying here because it's actually

00:59:27.309 --> 00:59:30.130
kind of confirming what I've been feeling, sensing

00:59:30.130 --> 00:59:33.929
deep inside of me. I don't know what that's going

00:59:33.929 --> 00:59:35.710
to look like yet, and I don't have to know what

00:59:35.710 --> 00:59:37.650
it's going to look like. I just want to be in

00:59:37.650 --> 00:59:40.949
alignment with his heart, with God's heart, not

00:59:40.949 --> 00:59:44.510
just a certain persuasion's heart. It's part

00:59:44.510 --> 00:59:47.289
of my pushback on social media. I just got sick

00:59:47.289 --> 00:59:52.849
of reading it. I hit things that key in the algo,

00:59:53.510 --> 00:59:56.150
so now everything that drops in my news feed

00:59:56.150 --> 00:59:59.789
is just that amplified, and it seems to just

00:59:59.789 --> 01:00:02.630
get louder and louder. to where I've just got

01:00:02.630 --> 01:00:04.909
to push back, close the screen, pick up my Bible

01:00:04.909 --> 01:00:08.409
and just go, okay, I need a break. I even told

01:00:08.409 --> 01:00:10.949
Annette, she keeps asking me, hey, did you read

01:00:10.949 --> 01:00:14.309
this? I'm like, no. I said, I'm actually taking

01:00:14.309 --> 01:00:16.429
a break. I'm pushing back on that. I don't think

01:00:16.429 --> 01:00:19.469
she's even landed with her yet. I'll know if

01:00:19.469 --> 01:00:22.269
she listens to this. This is the big egg here.

01:00:22.269 --> 01:00:27.110
The Easter egg. But really, I'm doing it intentionally.

01:00:27.750 --> 01:00:30.070
Here's what I'm finding. I have a lot more peace.

01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:33.579
in my soul right now. Of course. I'm not spun

01:00:33.579 --> 01:00:36.420
up. I'm not mad. It is well with my soul. Even

01:00:36.420 --> 01:00:38.420
on the No King stuff, I did not go down the rabbit

01:00:38.420 --> 01:00:41.900
hole. I did not chase news. I didn't click a

01:00:41.900 --> 01:00:44.539
single link. In fact, I've hardly looked at all.

01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:47.860
And I just thought, what you said, it's their

01:00:47.860 --> 01:00:51.840
right to protest and to dissent. Our Constitution

01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:55.159
guarantees it. And the moment we think it's only

01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:58.400
one side's right to do so, And then we're going

01:00:58.400 --> 01:00:59.980
to castigate everybody else who does? Or that

01:00:59.980 --> 01:01:03.639
they're lesser than, because they disagree. So

01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:07.239
I mentioned this on No Agenda, and I got... Oh,

01:01:07.260 --> 01:01:10.599
I bet you did. I got all kinds of emails. Yes,

01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:14.139
they do. They hate us. They want to kill us.

01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:18.000
Link to video. Hey, of course, if you put a thousand

01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:19.739
people on the street, someone's going to be...

01:01:19.739 --> 01:01:22.300
You're going to find the one guy with the sign

01:01:22.300 --> 01:01:25.679
that says, kill all Nazis or whatever. But that

01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:31.280
was not what I saw, brother. Even Dvorak is like,

01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:34.019
well, this is like the same as pussy hats without

01:01:34.019 --> 01:01:38.400
the pussy hats. No. No, it was not. I saw American

01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:41.619
flags everywhere. People had them in their shirt

01:01:41.619 --> 01:01:43.619
pockets. People were walking around with their

01:01:43.619 --> 01:01:47.420
waving them. That got my respect to such a degree,

01:01:47.699 --> 01:01:50.840
and I think it was overlooked by almost everybody.

01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:56.139
Good catch, Adam. Really, you're saying something

01:01:56.139 --> 01:01:59.599
that needs to be said, and needs to be said in

01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:02.400
our camp. It needs to be said out loud so that

01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:06.420
we're not just becoming one more part of the

01:02:06.420 --> 01:02:09.739
problem where we're escalating people. And what

01:02:09.739 --> 01:02:12.139
happened to the forgiveness bit? Yeah, what about

01:02:12.139 --> 01:02:17.079
radical forgiveness? Yeah. Man, I know this needs

01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:19.380
to come up. This conversation needs to happen

01:02:19.380 --> 01:02:23.280
among friends and brothers and sisters to say,

01:02:23.380 --> 01:02:27.480
you know what? And I said this back five, four

01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:32.519
years ago, if we would pray for our enemies,

01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:35.820
and I was thinking in terms of the last administration,

01:02:35.980 --> 01:02:39.900
if we would pray for them as much as we castigate

01:02:39.900 --> 01:02:43.639
them and disparage them, Maybe things would change.

01:02:43.780 --> 01:02:45.619
Maybe it would make a difference. Just maybe

01:02:45.619 --> 01:02:47.800
God would hear our prayers in heaven and heal

01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:51.500
our land, just saying. And I think honestly,

01:02:51.699 --> 01:02:54.019
if I was to say it out loud, I don't think the

01:02:54.019 --> 01:02:55.920
change would be in them as much as it would be

01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:59.579
in us. That our hearts would shift instead of

01:02:59.579 --> 01:03:03.820
us being so easily triggered. and being hooked

01:03:03.820 --> 01:03:06.719
with clickbait, right and left. This took me

01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:09.539
a year to realize this, and it happened the last

01:03:09.539 --> 01:03:12.699
time, maybe it was a year ago. You're way ahead

01:03:12.699 --> 01:03:15.039
of me, brother. It was six months ago, and we

01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:17.559
had people here in Fredericksburg protesting

01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:21.800
outside City Hall. And with flags, all -American

01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:25.380
flags, and I remember, Tina mentioned that she

01:03:25.380 --> 01:03:28.599
went around, and I'm not quite sure. if there

01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:30.739
was words, but then the person said, well, God

01:03:30.739 --> 01:03:33.880
bless you. Have a good day. I don't care who

01:03:33.880 --> 01:03:36.420
says that to me. It's how I receive it, not how

01:03:36.420 --> 01:03:40.699
they said it. And I truly believe we have a moment.

01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:43.659
We have a real moment here if we can reflect

01:03:43.659 --> 01:03:48.199
on it. And let's just all agree on our flag.

01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:53.420
Flags are important. That's why, you know, Wars

01:03:53.420 --> 01:03:55.820
are fought. We're fighting a war over a flag,

01:03:55.900 --> 01:04:00.179
over a rainbow colored flag, which has no authority.

01:04:00.820 --> 01:04:02.820
Our American flag has authority. And if you're

01:04:02.820 --> 01:04:05.019
going to fly that flag, I'm going to respect

01:04:05.019 --> 01:04:07.820
you. I'm going to respect your difference of

01:04:07.820 --> 01:04:10.559
opinion. I'm going to respect you. Wow. Thank

01:04:10.559 --> 01:04:12.840
you for bringing that up, Adam, because that's

01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:14.960
something that's been working inside of me. And

01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:17.820
honestly, the more I push back on social media

01:04:17.820 --> 01:04:21.019
and close my screens, the more that's rising

01:04:21.019 --> 01:04:24.699
in me. to where I'm like, can we find something

01:04:24.699 --> 01:04:28.159
we have in common just for five minutes? Just

01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:31.039
have a civil conversation that's about something

01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:34.719
we agree on. Because what we've done, and I have

01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:37.539
found myself go down this track just to be very

01:04:37.539 --> 01:04:41.739
transparent, to where I'm angry. at people that

01:04:41.739 --> 01:04:43.800
I disagree with, and I didn't used to be that

01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:48.099
way. I've fallen off into some hole. Well, the

01:04:48.099 --> 01:04:50.980
amplifier of social media does that to you. It's

01:04:50.980 --> 01:04:53.699
very normal. That's very normal. Brother, let's

01:04:53.699 --> 01:04:56.219
leave it here. Let's stick a big pin in this

01:04:56.219 --> 01:04:58.519
one because I want to come back to that. It's

01:04:58.519 --> 01:05:00.539
important. And this is the first I've discussed.

01:05:00.780 --> 01:05:02.980
Well, I talked about briefly on No Agenda, but

01:05:02.980 --> 01:05:04.980
this is really the conversation I wanted to have.

01:05:05.099 --> 01:05:08.199
I don't get that from other... other places I

01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:09.340
am. So thank you. Thank you. And it's important

01:05:09.340 --> 01:05:13.840
that us here on this and in this genre, as brothers

01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:16.820
in Christ, talking about radical forgiveness,

01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:20.079
talking about what we don't negotiate with, this

01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:25.239
is important. And this could be part of the conversation

01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:28.619
that brings healing to a nation. I hope so. I

01:05:28.619 --> 01:05:31.699
not only hope so, I pray so. I'm with you. Scripture

01:05:31.699 --> 01:05:34.159
before screens, brother. That's the way to go.

01:05:35.449 --> 01:05:37.349
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