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Father, we come before you. Adam and I, what

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a privilege we get to do this. It's not just

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a clever title. It is truly our heart that we

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get to do what we're doing. We pray, Lord, for

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anyone who would listen to our podcast and find

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themselves encouraged, find themselves built

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up, find themselves a little more informed than

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they were, and, Father, find themselves seeking

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more of God. That's our heart. And so, Lord,

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we lay all this before you. Your word says that

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you delight in the very details of our lives

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and you order our steps and we trust you in it.

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So Lord, as we do number 106, if we get to do

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this, we love you and we honor you in Jesus name.

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Amen. Amen. It's Wednesday, October 15th, 2025.

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We get to do this. This is episode number six.

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We get to do this. Hey, brother. That's catchy.

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It sticks in your brain like glue. Jeff texted

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me the other day, Jeff Smith, who made that for

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us. He's like, are you going to be at the Dove

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Awards? Are you in town for the Dove Awards?

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I'm like, no, no, brother, I don't think so.

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I know I'm in the scene now, but not like that.

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Oh, that's funny. By the way, you said episode

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106. I wish we had 106. Because Annette and I

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did episode 106 on Sunday. I knew exactly what

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it was. I thought for a second, I've been on

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a lot of podcasts lately. They're running together

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now. You were a natural born podcaster. It's

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so much fun. This is the thing. I love it. You're

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good at it. Well, I like to talk, so that's...

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We are professional talkers. As you were saying

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that prayer, I was thinking... You know, the

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power of the podcast, we saw that just Saturday

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night. We had dinner with Patrick Coble, who

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is a longtime No Agenda listener. I mean, back

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to, you know, episode one, he's been listening

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to Living Up in a Down World, to Curry and the

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Keeper. That was Sunday night. Was it Sunday

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night? Bro, you and I both are... Hey, we're

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living the dream, but we're meeting ourselves

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coming and going, right? No, no, no. You're right,

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it was. I saw him Saturday at the meetup and

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Sunday. I interrupted him. No, it was amazing.

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You guys came back because we both had our shows

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and meetups. The life of a pastor is a show,

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a meetup, a show, a meetup, and then trying to

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get out. whooped by then. And you both did the

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show. Once again, fantastic. I loved how you

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do the, oops, I just lost, everything's good.

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I just, I don't know. For some reason, my screen

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went blank. It's gremlins. Not today. Not today.

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you know it's so good this was your second the

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second of two of doing the podcast on stage and

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was about family as you're doing the uh faith

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family freedom uh series and man it's just the

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room everyone loves it it's so good and again

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dame annette has no idea how good she is it's

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it's just amazing she's like oh i'm nervous i

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don't like this you know i'm not gonna talk today

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That's your famous line, I'm not going to talk

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today. And I know that means I'm not going to

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get to talk today. So Patrick Coble, he's a tech

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guy and he's, you know, he roams all over the

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world, does speeches. does something called pen

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testing, penetration testing. So go to your company,

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he'll break in. And he does weird stuff. He'll

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go up to the front desk and say, hey, I just

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got here. HR doesn't have my details, but I forgot

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my key card. They'll give him a key card. He'll

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break right into the server room. And then he'll

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go back later to the CEO and say, here it is.

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I got your database, everything else. So he usually

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has those clients once. That's what he said.

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And they're like, OK. I didn't really realize

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that. He said that some companies will have 500

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corrections to do. They don't want him back.

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He'll check a year later. We got 300 left. We're

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working on it. That's a problem. He was in town.

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He just showed up to our meetup. He's done this,

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by the way, in London, in the Netherlands, in

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Tokyo. He just shows up for a meetup. Vegas.

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We've seen him so many different times. He showed

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up unannounced at the Fredericksburg meetup,

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which was great. And then Sunday, he came to

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church, he worshiped with us. I saw his hands

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up, which was amazing. That made my heart happy.

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Are you aware of the people when you're... Because

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you were playing, you were in the worship team.

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Are you aware of people? Are you looking at people?

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Yeah, I got the best view in the house. I'm looking

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at everybody's faces. I got another question

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about that later for today. Yeah, keep that tuned.

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And this, we had dinner and you... So nice you

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guys came back. Patrick got barbecue for us,

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got pies from Blue Bonnet, I know. Death death

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by a thousand pies no kidding so good though,

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but he he was really sharing his testimony and

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a lot of his life and I know I appreciated that

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and you know, he's a Veteran of the Iraq Wars

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and not just Iraq Fallujah. I know Fallujah when

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he started telling his story. Yeah, he could

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have gone all night I could sit there and listen

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to that literally for hours. I got real emotional

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sometimes. I did too because of what those guys

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went through and just what he was sharing. I'm

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not going to go into any detail, but what I just

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can't imagine. what you would carry, the weight

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you would carry after having to do what he had

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to do. And so what he was telling us is that

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through Curry and the Keeper and then living

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up in a down world, God brought him back to faith,

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brought him back through these podcasts. And

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to me, I was saying to Tina that night, this

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makes it all worth it, even if it's just one

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guy. Exactly. This is why we do this. Yes. And

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like I said, I've been on a bunch of them lately,

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like five lately, six different ones. Anyway,

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and I love every one of them because I'm thinking

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in my mind somebody may hear something that's

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going to lift them, it's going to encourage them,

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it's going to help them. And it's so critical.

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And so to me, I see what we're doing here is

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just another extension of what we do in our daily

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lives. I mean, we're talking to people, we're

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sharing our faith. We're looking at the things

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that are going on in our world and our culture

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through a biblical lens. And instead of, you

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know, anything you get online or your news feed,

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it's not going to be through a biblical lens.

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It's going to be through the cultural lens. Oh,

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I got stuff about that today, brother. Oh, I

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bet you do. But first, some feedback from Carl.

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Carl sent me a note. He said, Adam, I spent my

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whole life in church, but up to the last couple

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of years, I really didn't live it out. Your faith

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walk and the way you share your faith has been

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an inspiration to me. He said, I've started to

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use your trick of praying before meals, went

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out with friends, and I've been engaging with

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people at work about Jesus and God and more.

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Before that, he said, I would stay out of any

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discussion. Your podcast with Pastor Jimmy has

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been truly a great addition to my listening.

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I really like the way you both weave the gospel

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into current events, and I'm sure it will lead

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me to discuss more things in this manner. I really

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needed this positive voice in my life to keep

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me reminded of what's important. Thank you both

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for putting this podcast out there. It's the

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top of my list. Every single time you release

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a new one, we need more podcasts with guys just

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talking about their walks with God. It really

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is no agenda through the lens of the Bible, which

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I liked. It's just mind blowing, mind blowing.

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So talking about getting notes, I got a great

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note from Dame Jamie, and she was talking about

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AI and how She was a little disturbed talking

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about it, thinking it was a bad thing, because

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she said she's found a good use for it, and that's

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doing Bible search. Oh, of course. Which is great.

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I use it all the time. Especially because it

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gives you links and sources. That's fine. Absolutely.

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It's a very expensive way for Google to do business,

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but it's fine by me. They're not going to make

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any money on me doing a search of my Bible, but

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it's definitely helpful. And yet, she also shared

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a little backstory, and I'm not going to go into

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details, but her daughter went through a very

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rough time, very difficult time. And she goes

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into what happened and how she got caught up

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in some things. And yet also how through prayer

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and she started listening to the audio Bible,

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Jamie did, and just began to give her hope and

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give her grace. And now that time passed, her

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daughter's back and she's doing well and she's

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thriving. And she sent me a picture of her and

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her daughter. And it's just, it's one of those

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things where you hear things like that. She said,

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the more podcasts I listen to that are faith

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-based, the more Christian songs I play for my

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family to hear. And the more I reference my decision

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-making is backed by something from the Bible.

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Hence why I've been using perplexity for the

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Bible health. The more my daughter is smiling

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and enjoying life again and letting me hug her

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again. And I'm just like... Oh, thank you for

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this amazing feedback. Dame Jamie, we so appreciate

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you and very curious about the rabbitry thing.

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Just because it's different, it's not normal.

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She's doing stuff, man. I like it, though. Anyway,

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just a huge thanks to her for taking the time

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to share that. That's just so encouraging for

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us. Oh, it makes it, I mean. Besides, we just

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wanted to catch up. We just hit record now when

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we're catching up. It has become a little more

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complicated because I'm like, no, no, brother,

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there's something I got to say, but I got to

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hold onto that to the show. I just got to hold

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onto it. Our new category for normal conversations.

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Show material. Let's not talk about the hair.

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We'll just save it. In our ongoing conversation

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about social media, something amazing popped

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up for me today. Thank you, Holy Spirit. It's

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like, you got to talk about this. It's actually

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a substack by a guy named Derek Thompson. I'll

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put it in the show notes. And the title is, Everything

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is Television. And what's really fascinating

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about this is, you know, we often think that,

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you know, you're really getting a reach on social

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media. You know, you're posting something to

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Facebook. you know, like it really makes some

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kind of difference. And this statistic, this

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fact actually just blew me away. Metta, who own

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Facebook and Instagram, so they filed, they have

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an official filing with the FTC, Federal Trade

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Commission. And the reason they had to do this

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is because there's new legislation coming down

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the pike about social media websites, and it'll

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be age verification. There's tons of regulation

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incoming all across the world, really. And they

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said, well, we just want you to know, we really

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can't be classified as social media anymore.

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You're kidding me. Because of the FTC filing.

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Listen to this. Today, this is their actual filing.

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Today, only a fraction of time spent on meta

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services, 7 % on Instagram, 17 % on Facebook,

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involves consuming content from online friends.

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A majority of time spent on both apps is watching

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videos, increasingly short form videos that are

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unconnected, i .e. not from a friend or a followed

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account. and recommended by AI powered algorithms,

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Meta developed as a direct competitive response

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to TikTok's rise, which stalled Meta's growth.

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What this tells me is that there is no social

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media. It's everybody is doom scrolling video,

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which means podcasting is perfect. It's intentional.

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You are intentionally listening to something.

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Yeah, you may be doom scrolling at the same time,

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but that seems kind of counterproductive. We're

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in people's heads, literally in their ears, we're

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in their car, when you can't scroll video, when

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you're walking the dog, when you're doing all

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these other things. Never before have I seen

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a statistic that made me feel podcasting was

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more important at right now. In addition to that,

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we got real problems as a culture. If that's

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what we're spending our time doing, if that's

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what the majority of time on social media, and

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by the way, I'm sure X is exactly the same, because

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you hit a video, it scrolls to the next one,

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it scrolls to the next one, it keeps on going.

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This is, I mean, I'm just like, wow, this is

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sick. We are, and it's not even from your friends.

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It's just from stuff that has been recommended

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by an artificial intelligence algorithm. So the

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fraction of what was positive about social media

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is that you do, oh my gosh, I just see that my

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daughter -in -law just posted a picture of my

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grandson Jackson, you know, getting a reward

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at school or whatever, you know, where that was

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a positive thing. And those were things that

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we used to do on social media. But now it's all

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video clips. Facebook has become Instagram and

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Instagram has become Facebook. They're the same.

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Well, they're all video. It's all about short

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form video from people you don't know going,

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ah, ah, ah, ah. Or like Annette getting caught

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up in the AI moment. You would love this. Are

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you going to throw your wife under the bus now?

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I am because she probably won't listen to this.

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Funny how that works with podcasting. I think

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I can get away with it here. So like two nights

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ago, she's, I think it was Sunday actually. And

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she's like, oh my gosh. And when she says that,

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what she's saying is, honey, come over here and

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look at this. Come look at this. Come look, look,

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look. I don't know why she didn't say, honey,

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come look at this. But she's got to go, oh my

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gosh. Don't scare me and the dog, Mr. Chevy.

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Get startled. And I said, so I walk over. Yeah,

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what'd you find? She goes, look at this is unbelievable.

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And I said, OK, let me see it. And it was this

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hawk soaring in, picking up a baby off the ground.

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And a dog was trying to stop it. It was so obviously

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fake. So AI. And the hawk starts to fly off and

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the little baby's dangling and the hawk drops

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it from like three or four feet and the mom picks

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up the baby. It is so terribly done. The transitions

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are horrible. I'm sitting there going. oh my

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gosh is right. What I'm oh my goshin' baby is

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that you actually believe that's a real video.

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I said, that's AI. It is? And I said, oh, you

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see the next one, next to that reel, let's see

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that reel, that's AI too. And you see those bunny,

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those 50 bunny, you know, bunnies jumping on

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their trampoline at night in a night camp. That's

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fake. She's like... I can't believe anything.

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That's correct. There you go. Put down your screens,

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pick up your Bibles, people. Brother, you're

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in my head on that. Well, and there's another

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piece in here from that same substack, which

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refers to another one of my favorite books by

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Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death, which

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was really the warning of the television age.

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He said, hey, television is a real problem. If

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you really think about when you're watching television,

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you're being lied to every five seconds. And

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with that, I mean jump cuts to another scene.

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You're inside. Boom, you're outside. Your head

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fills in all the rest of the information. So

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true. Mood, music, everything, snap, close up,

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all of this stuff. So here's the paragraph I

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wanted to share. In amusing ourselves to death,

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Neil Postman wrote that each medium, like language

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itself, makes possible a unique mode of discourse

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by providing a new orientation for thought, for

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expression, for sensibility. Television speaks

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to us in a particular dialect, Postman argued.

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When everything turns into television, every

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form of communication starts to adopt television's

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values, immediacy, emotion, spectacle, and brevity.

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In the global local news program or an outraged

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news feed, so this is the author of the Substack,

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The viewer bathes in a vat of their own cortisol.

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Wow. That's descriptive. When everything is urgent,

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nothing is truly important. Politics becomes

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theater. Science becomes storytelling. News becomes

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performance. The results, Postman warned, is

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a society that forgets how to think in paragraphs

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and learns instead to think in scenes. Wow. Right?

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Right? Right? He nailed it. He put into words

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what we're feeling. And what we're trying to

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say, what we're trying to express, what's happening.

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That's powerful. It's a great article. It goes

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on to talk about how when television first came

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out, there was like no one had a television in

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their bedroom. Now it's like some outrageous

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number, like 95 % of all bedrooms have television.

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What and people aren't even watching television.

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They're watching YouTube. They're watching videos.

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They're doom -scrolling I know this is reset

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me again because you know, I still fall prey

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to it because it's like crack there's literally

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crack in my hand every single morning and I used

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to enjoy some drugs and You know, hey, it's here.

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It's here right now. I think I'll have some right

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now. This is you know, that's it's so dangerous

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because it's so accepted. And people are walking

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on the street with the crack. And they're looking

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at the crack as they're actually consuming the

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crack as they're walking down the street. I mean,

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you see it all the time. I just wanted to highlight

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it because when you get these stats and it's

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all this video, and then you adding on top of

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that how much of it's fake, but we're already

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ready to perceive it as real. It's totally believable.

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Of course this happened. Of course. Why not?

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I mean, it's something that It could happen.

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So when the Antichrist comes on the scene, we

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won't know the difference. We won't even know.

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It may work against him. You have a good point.

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So many people talk about the Antichrist. I remember

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before I was a believer, way before that, Obama

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was the Antichrist. Do we even know what the

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Antichrist will be? I mean, is there biblical

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scripture that you can point to that helps us

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understand? Or you're shaking your head no. There's

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hints. I mean, that's one of those very veiled

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things that I think the Lord knew better than

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to give us too much because we would really have

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a runaway. We're going to do it anyway. But the

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more info we have, I think he knows exactly the

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heart of man. He knows our mentality or thinking.

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He knows that if he gave us too much information,

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we'd never pay attention to anything again. So

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he keeps things mystical. They're mysteries.

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And I've always said, unless you as a Christian

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are able to embrace and accept mystery, you're

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going to have to live a miserable Christian life.

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It's okay to not know everything. Right. Now,

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it's hard for people in the Western world to

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accept, especially these days when we have perplexity

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in chat, GPT, right here in our hands. They tell

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us the truth. Oh, absolutely. By the way, I looked

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up. I got to show you something. This falls right

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in, but it's kind of a little caveat. So it's

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Pastor Appreciation Month. Is that from Sir Patrick

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Cobel? I don't know where these came from. Yes,

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he gave me one too. It was in the bag with the

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eggnog. Oh, okay. Thank you. I've got several

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things. I get them a little mixed up. And there

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wasn't any names on this. But anyway, so yeah,

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this is so cool, right? The primer, our primer,

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as they said. But this is the one that's actually

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from, this is an actual - OG, OG, is it the New

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England Primer? What is it called? This is the

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New England Primer. It was the original - School

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book. School book. Yeah. And it was all based

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on the Bible. They used scripture. They used

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Adam and Eve. I mean, I was, I was, it's a little

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hard to read by the way. The S's are F's and

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the F's are S's. So it gets a little wild. I

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was going, if I had to read this out loud, it

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would be very embarrassing. But I was reading

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through it and all the examples, everything in

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it and how they taught the alphabet and how they

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taught numbers, all biblical references. But

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we're not a Christian country. Or company. We

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don't have a company. I looked this specific

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one up because it was in a plastic bag like this,

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and it looked like it was old. So I was like,

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this looks like the real deal. It's original.

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It's a reprint from... 1901. Okay. So when was

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the reprint done? Well, the original print was

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in the 1700s. Oh, so this is a 1901 print? Yeah.

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Wow. 1901. Wow. Is that cool or what? That's

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very cool. I so appreciate that. Man, just holding

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it makes me feel weird, but I mean, like in a

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good way. And that's what we used to teach. That's

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what we used to teach. That's what I'm saying.

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I mean, you know, there was, oh, my point was,

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let me get back to my point. Point was I looked

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it up on chat GPT and I read off this and when

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was this actually printed? It's so 1900. I see

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great So then I went over to perplexity and did

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the exact same I actually copied the the prompt

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copy it in there and they said oh between 1920

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and 1930 so then I went back to chat GPT did

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again The first time is 1900 same time as 1901.

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So I got three different answers three different

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questions three same questions. Yeah So it's

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like, what can you believe? You know? The Bible.

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20s, 30s. The Word of God is all we can believe

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at this point. Brother, I'm telling you, we're

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in trouble. Well, yes and no. I mean, so we had

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this meetup in Fredericksburg, and there was

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a noticeable amount of Gen Z people who were

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there. Love that. Listeners. Cause you know,

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I make a lot of fun of Gen Z, can't read clock,

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can't write cursive, you know, Florida ounces,

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you know, all kinds of stuff. And they're actually

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like, they're kind of say, yeah, we have, we

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have our issues, but they, and by the way, young

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married in their mid twenties, kids are pregnant.

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I mean, and it's like, Hey, you know, we're really

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different. And the reason why is we, we really

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the only hardship we had was in high school,

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and that was COVID. And I'm like, oh, wow, I

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didn't even realize that this whole generation

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that has come up, they were in high school during

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COVID. And I think that, you know, what is it,

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easy times make for weak men, weak men make for

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hard times, hard times make for hard men. I think

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this is a new generation. And yes, we've lost

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a lot of them, we have. to doom scrolling and

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total psy -up, transgenderism. All of that exploded

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during COVID and that was online and on purpose

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as far as I'm concerned. But they're like, I

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mean, all that I could hear in my head while

00:23:15.509 --> 00:23:18.990
I'm talking to them is Lonnie Frisbie saying,

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there's a whole generation out there just searching

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for God, man. And they're like, yes, this is

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exactly, and they are, they're just searching

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for this stuff. And they say, you know, we didn't

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have a Vietnam. We didn't really have Iraq. We

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didn't have, you know, even the Great Depression,

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Great Recession of 2008. We didn't really have

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that. What we were given was Israel. We were

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given Israel to hate. Wow. That makes sense.

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As sad as it is, it makes sense of why it's their

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thing. Remember we played the clips of Charlie

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Kirk talking to Gen Z, and they were saying,

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hey, if I'm going to be accused of the crime,

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I might as well commit it. And so there's a lot

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of misinformation and a lot of just a lot of

00:24:13.589 --> 00:24:19.359
disinformation, I should say. And it really,

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there's a couple of things that happened. And

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I brought some clips to talk about it. And the

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first one is, well, I should say, I've had some

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conversations with some pastors and talking to

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different people. And we've been talking about

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this for a while now, but it dawned on me that

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not all pastors are really seeing what's happening.

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Most people aren't seeing what's happening. and

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they're hearing about Zionism and Israel, and

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they're not really tuned in to what this new

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generation has been fed, what they're thinking,

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what they're talking about. And even Glenn Beck,

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Glenn Beck went, you know, everyone's trying

00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.740
to jump on, and I love Glenn, but everyone's

00:25:03.740 --> 00:25:06.900
trying to jump into Charlie's vacuum, like, oh,

00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:08.599
you know, Crowder's going out. I'm going to do,

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you know, I'm going to rekindle the ask me anything

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on campuses. And Glenn Beck, went out to, you

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know, was going out to college campuses with

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the blackboard, which I find hilarious because

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I'm sure a lot of these... Blackboard? An actual

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chalkboard? You know his chalkboard? We call

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those a chartboard. You know, he used to do that

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a lot on Fox News and he'd draw all these arrows

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and everything and always ended up at Soros at

00:25:30.690 --> 00:25:33.069
the end. That was basically, that was his chalkboard.

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So he's showing up with a chalkboard and I'm

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sure that this generation is going... What is

00:25:38.289 --> 00:25:41.910
that thing? Wait, he's erasing it with some device.

00:25:42.829 --> 00:25:45.089
Where's the power button? This is amazing. How

00:25:45.089 --> 00:25:47.170
can we get one of these? This is a cool thing.

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Does Apple make those? And so he was getting

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questions that he could not... There's a fly

00:25:52.210 --> 00:25:54.390
in here that is just driving me nuts. Be as a

00:25:54.390 --> 00:25:56.789
bulb in the Bible. I can catch these in mid -air,

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you watch. And he was getting asked questions

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that he had no... answer for, and the disinformation

00:26:07.339 --> 00:26:11.200
was just was mind -boggling. Have a listen to

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this. I have a question. Why is there this societal

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taboo around criticisms of Israel? For example,

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APEC doesn't have to register as a foreign lobby,

00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:23.960
but like the Australia lobby does, and that should

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see changed. You're talking about one thing they

00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:27.440
don't teach in school? They don't teach about

00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:30.019
the USS Liberty. Where Israel literally came,

00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:31.980
looping American ship because they want us to

00:26:31.980 --> 00:26:34.380
get in their war with Egypt and they don't teach

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that in school. I mean, I'm just saying. Thank

00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:39.799
you. Thank you very much. Israel has an overwhelming

00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:42.460
lobby over the United States government and we

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have unconditionally supported them. We have

00:26:44.420 --> 00:26:46.380
fought their wars in the Middle East. Bibi Netanyahu

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came to our Congress in the 90s, told us a list

00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:49.940
of countries that we need to take out. Somewhere

00:26:49.940 --> 00:26:53.839
Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, etc. Through those

00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:56.759
wars, we have lost trillions of dollars. We have

00:26:56.759 --> 00:27:00.940
lost American servicemen. Okay, so a couple of

00:27:00.940 --> 00:27:05.720
things here. The USS Liberty is definitely something

00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:07.940
that needs to be explored. There's no doubt about

00:27:07.940 --> 00:27:12.619
it. But when it comes to this complete twisting

00:27:12.619 --> 00:27:17.279
of the truth about Bibi Netanyahu coming to Congress

00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:23.619
in the early 90s, that could not be further from

00:27:23.619 --> 00:27:26.710
the truth. This is something that General Wesley

00:27:26.710 --> 00:27:30.630
Clark told that it was actually Paul Wolfowitz,

00:27:30.670 --> 00:27:33.450
not him, but it came through the ranks. This

00:27:33.450 --> 00:27:37.589
was the strategy of the State Department and

00:27:37.589 --> 00:27:41.109
really the US strategy to control the Middle

00:27:41.109 --> 00:27:44.029
East and to take out seven countries in five

00:27:44.029 --> 00:27:48.009
years. This led into, and this is the neoconservatives,

00:27:48.089 --> 00:27:51.029
and in my opinion, a bunch of really bad people

00:27:51.029 --> 00:27:57.769
who did all this. I want to dispel that, but

00:27:57.769 --> 00:28:02.509
first, as I'm listening to this, as I'm listening

00:28:02.509 --> 00:28:06.829
to people in the church kind of glossing over

00:28:06.829 --> 00:28:10.049
it, kind of not listening, you know, hearing

00:28:10.049 --> 00:28:13.069
some Zionist stuff and not seeing what Gen Z

00:28:13.069 --> 00:28:16.400
is yelling and saying, hey, we're out here, we

00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:18.200
think this stuff, what's going on with this.

00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:20.660
It reminded me of another Glenn Beck episode

00:28:20.660 --> 00:28:23.799
with Eric Metaxas, right after he wrote a letter

00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:26.460
to the American church. And this is a brief blurb

00:28:26.460 --> 00:28:28.680
of what he said. You know, the lie that he was

00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:30.559
dealing with in his day, it's the same lie we're

00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:32.460
dealing with in our day, which just let me...

00:28:32.460 --> 00:28:36.440
I should probably set it up better and say that

00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:39.500
as I was thinking about this, and I think I said

00:28:39.500 --> 00:28:42.029
to you, I said, I've seen this movie before.

00:28:42.750 --> 00:28:44.869
Not just from growing up in the Netherlands,

00:28:45.009 --> 00:28:46.930
but I've seen this movie before. In fact, we

00:28:46.930 --> 00:28:49.549
saw it together. It's the movie Bonhoeffer. And

00:28:49.549 --> 00:28:51.529
that's what Eric Metaxas, that's what his letter

00:28:51.529 --> 00:28:53.609
to the American Church was about, and that's

00:28:53.609 --> 00:28:55.730
what he's referring to here. You know, the lie

00:28:55.730 --> 00:28:57.670
that he was dealing with in his day, it's the

00:28:57.670 --> 00:28:59.630
same lie we're dealing with in our day, which

00:28:59.630 --> 00:29:02.230
is what led me to write my book, Letter to the

00:29:02.230 --> 00:29:04.950
American Church. What would Bonhoeffer say today?

00:29:05.369 --> 00:29:07.650
It's the same excuses being given by the church.

00:29:07.769 --> 00:29:09.849
We don't do politics. What do you mean you don't

00:29:09.849 --> 00:29:14.049
do politics? Slavery is an issue, and you say,

00:29:14.369 --> 00:29:15.950
well, we don't take a position. That's political.

00:29:16.049 --> 00:29:18.589
We just do church. How can you do church and

00:29:18.589 --> 00:29:21.210
not take an issue on enslaving human beings?

00:29:21.670 --> 00:29:24.009
That's politics. My hero William Wilberforce,

00:29:24.089 --> 00:29:26.500
I wrote a biography of William Wilberforce. He

00:29:26.500 --> 00:29:28.740
was a politician who, because of his Christian

00:29:28.740 --> 00:29:30.859
faith, said, I must stand against the slave trade.

00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.099
This is a satanic abomination treating human

00:29:33.099 --> 00:29:36.940
beings like this. I'm going to use politics and

00:29:36.940 --> 00:29:39.920
culture and whatever I can do to change the laws.

00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:42.339
That's our duty as Christians. It's our duty

00:29:42.339 --> 00:29:44.559
as Americans. And so Bonhoeffer was trying to

00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:46.400
get the church to see it in his day. And again,

00:29:46.539 --> 00:29:48.259
many were like, we don't want any trouble. We're

00:29:48.259 --> 00:29:50.380
just going to do church. We'll let the evil take

00:29:50.380 --> 00:29:52.279
over. We don't care. It's not affecting us. It's

00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:55.480
affecting the Jews. God judges that if you don't

00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:57.579
speak up for those who are being crushed. So

00:29:57.579 --> 00:30:01.240
there it is. And that was the prevailing wisdom

00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:04.720
at the time in the church in Germany was just

00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:06.859
sing louder, turn up the music so we don't hear

00:30:06.859 --> 00:30:09.559
the freight. You've preached about this. And

00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:13.359
so I go searching and the Holy Spirit does this

00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:16.940
to me time and time again. And I find this one

00:30:16.940 --> 00:30:20.299
minute clip from Charlie Kirk about his vision

00:30:20.299 --> 00:30:23.839
and his vision for Turning Point USA. Our vision,

00:30:23.859 --> 00:30:26.779
and it might be foolishly optimistic, but I've

00:30:26.779 --> 00:30:28.299
been called that before, and now you can kind

00:30:28.299 --> 00:30:30.160
of see it. We want a thousand Dietrich Bonhoeffers.

00:30:30.339 --> 00:30:31.900
We're not going to say like we're going to create

00:30:31.900 --> 00:30:33.359
them. I want to find them and encourage them.

00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:35.799
That's it. Find and encourage. Find and encourage.

00:30:35.859 --> 00:30:38.279
That's it. Because I'm not going to train people.

00:30:38.819 --> 00:30:41.400
I just want to find and encourage. Here's a branding

00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.740
I did. Dietrich Bonhoeffer died as a martyr.

00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:47.779
Go with a thousand Martin Luthers. It's got a

00:30:47.779 --> 00:30:49.980
little more. That's fair. I like the Bonhoeffer

00:30:49.980 --> 00:30:52.079
example because of the circumstances, the tyranny.

00:30:52.619 --> 00:30:54.599
Yeah, but you know, I also like the Bonhoeffer

00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:56.940
because I never want to make anyone feel as if

00:30:56.940 --> 00:30:58.599
I'm being anything but honest It's gonna cost

00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:01.119
us something God forbid our life like that But

00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:02.579
eventually we're all gonna have to go to heaven

00:31:02.579 --> 00:31:05.779
and so Bonhoeffer is the example of hey I'm willing

00:31:05.779 --> 00:31:08.279
to sacrifice everything I have for God's purpose

00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:09.700
on earth, but I hear you it's not exactly the

00:31:09.700 --> 00:31:12.759
greatest salesperson I'd rather die in a glorious

00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:15.460
martyrdom then by getting a burrito stuck in

00:31:15.460 --> 00:31:17.319
my throat Say you die twice when you actually

00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:19.119
die in the last time somebody mentions your name

00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:21.099
Bonhoeffer will be mentioned I think as long

00:31:21.099 --> 00:31:24.259
as human beings How about that clip? Oh, that

00:31:24.259 --> 00:31:28.259
is prophetic. Right? That is like spooky almost.

00:31:28.259 --> 00:31:32.440
And it tells me a couple of things. You know

00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:35.279
exactly where Charlie stood. And, you know, and

00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:38.099
so all this noise about, you know, he was turning

00:31:38.099 --> 00:31:40.500
against the Jews. He was turning against Israel.

00:31:40.819 --> 00:31:44.400
No. Individual donors who threaten to pull their

00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:47.119
money, I get that on a daily basis. Please pull

00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.700
your money, whatever. I'm not going to be controlled

00:31:49.700 --> 00:31:54.400
by you or by your money. And so that's important

00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:57.400
for people to hear where Charlie really stood.

00:31:58.059 --> 00:32:01.039
And the fact that, I mean, just the propheticness

00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:04.980
of what he was saying about Bonhoeffer and how

00:32:04.980 --> 00:32:08.599
that applies to himself is mind blowing to me.

00:32:09.540 --> 00:32:13.740
Wow. I mean, really, that's a wow moment. I mean,

00:32:13.740 --> 00:32:17.079
he called it. He called it. He called it. He

00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:19.440
said, you know, even if we have to lose our lives,

00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:21.380
you know, but we're going to be with God, we're

00:32:21.380 --> 00:32:23.539
going to be in heaven. I mean, he had, he lived

00:32:23.539 --> 00:32:27.839
with that mentality. I love the, now I read letter

00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.240
to the American church and I had a friend that

00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:33.539
was reading it at the same time. And we had wildly

00:32:33.539 --> 00:32:35.819
different interpretations. Oh, really? Interesting.

00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:38.559
Oh yeah. He was, he was very against Bonhoeffer.

00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:43.299
He said Bonhoeffer was a criminal and he was

00:32:43.299 --> 00:32:46.539
executed for what he did. He did not see the

00:32:46.539 --> 00:32:49.500
same thing I did. He said he was an alarmist

00:32:49.500 --> 00:32:53.900
and I said, but he was right. Exactly what he

00:32:53.900 --> 00:32:58.420
was concerned about happened. And he said, yeah,

00:32:58.500 --> 00:33:00.339
but he, you know, but he was a criminal because

00:33:00.339 --> 00:33:03.740
he he joined the side that was going to go after

00:33:03.740 --> 00:33:10.519
Adolf Hitler. So he was going to kill him. But

00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:14.759
he didn't, and he wasn't in the actual plan too.

00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:18.859
It was his brother that was a part of this resistance.

00:33:20.140 --> 00:33:22.220
He was a part of it, but he also believed that

00:33:22.220 --> 00:33:27.140
it was just. But that guy was so sidetracked

00:33:27.140 --> 00:33:29.019
that Bonhoeffer would side with somebody who

00:33:29.019 --> 00:33:31.140
was going to try to take somebody out. And I

00:33:31.140 --> 00:33:33.880
said, but did you see what Bonhoeffer did? Do

00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:36.539
you understand that because he didn't get taken

00:33:36.539 --> 00:33:40.880
out, he literally decimated millions of people

00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:44.180
lives that still we heard from today destroyed

00:33:44.180 --> 00:33:46.839
his own country? Well, not really his country.

00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:48.740
He wasn't born there, but, you know, claimed

00:33:48.740 --> 00:33:52.440
to be German. So destroyed Germany for all practical

00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:56.740
intents and purposes. But anyway, to hear Charlie

00:33:56.740 --> 00:34:02.180
talking about it. You know, the Bonhoeffer. I

00:34:02.180 --> 00:34:06.640
mean, that's huge. And particularly today, as

00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:12.340
we speak, the ceasefire in Gaza, the return of

00:34:12.340 --> 00:34:14.360
the hostages, and conversely, the return of the

00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:15.980
prisoners. I haven't looked at the news in 15

00:34:15.980 --> 00:34:19.119
minutes. Is it still holding? Oh, it's holding.

00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:25.099
And mind blowing was President Trump's, in the

00:34:25.099 --> 00:34:27.539
afternoon, he had all of the Arab nation leaders,

00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:31.820
all of them, all of them. And they were all thanking

00:34:31.820 --> 00:34:36.440
him. I mean, General Sisi of Egypt, he was like,

00:34:36.619 --> 00:34:38.880
President Trump saved millions of people's lives.

00:34:39.380 --> 00:34:41.619
And so kind of going into Bonhoeffer, where you

00:34:41.619 --> 00:34:43.360
just said, and President Trump, there's this

00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:47.760
article I found on American Thinker, and the

00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:50.280
title is, God is consistent. He always chooses

00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:55.039
the bad boys to do his greatest work. And I wanted

00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:59.639
to bring this up because references a couple

00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:02.940
of biblical figures, and I just want you know

00:35:02.940 --> 00:35:06.219
this much better than I do. God chose Samson,

00:35:06.539 --> 00:35:08.960
Jacob, and Peter, all of whom were deeply flawed

00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:11.420
liars and unpleasant characters who went on to

00:35:11.420 --> 00:35:13.420
accomplish great things for the kingdom of God.

00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:19.949
He talks about God chose Moses, a murderer, to

00:35:19.949 --> 00:35:22.909
deliver an entire people from slavery. God chose

00:35:22.909 --> 00:35:25.750
Abraham, a liar, and a man who acquiesced to

00:35:25.750 --> 00:35:27.710
Sarah's insistence that he sleep with Hagar,

00:35:27.829 --> 00:35:32.650
a servant, to have a child pass their... Oh,

00:35:32.769 --> 00:35:36.329
that's a big word, Jimmy, fecundity, facundity.

00:35:36.710 --> 00:35:39.909
Wow. He looked that one up. Synonyms, please.

00:35:40.050 --> 00:35:42.809
Someone looked it up, yeah. Jack J .B .T. Cinnamon.

00:35:43.070 --> 00:35:46.469
Thoughts? Your thoughts? Well, I mean, he went

00:35:46.469 --> 00:35:48.829
right to the popular biblical figures. I was

00:35:48.829 --> 00:35:51.869
thinking King Cyrus of Persia. I was thinking

00:35:51.869 --> 00:35:53.969
of Nebuchadnezzar who saw the writing on the

00:35:53.969 --> 00:35:55.909
wall and ended up eating grass out in a field

00:35:55.909 --> 00:35:59.329
because he rebelled against God, but yet God

00:35:59.329 --> 00:36:03.309
used him. Or King Artaxerxes who sent Nehemiah

00:36:03.309 --> 00:36:07.400
back to... to Jerusalem while they were in exile

00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.340
and said, here's your blank check. Whatever you

00:36:10.340 --> 00:36:14.280
want, you get, you go rebuild your wall. He used

00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:17.760
pagan kings. He used people who had no, who were,

00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:21.440
when I say pagan, I mean, you know, pantheism.

00:36:21.500 --> 00:36:23.300
I mean, they had multiple gods. They believed

00:36:23.300 --> 00:36:26.159
in other things. And yet he used them because

00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:28.619
the Bible says in the book of Psalms or Proverbs,

00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:31.239
I think it's Psalms, he says that the king's

00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:34.039
heart is in his hand. and he turns it where he

00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:38.360
wills. So while we're sitting back on one view

00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:40.699
looking at it, it's like, oh, this guy's, we're

00:36:40.699 --> 00:36:42.480
chicken little, the sky's falling, the sky's

00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:46.460
falling. And God's like, I got this. And I'm

00:36:46.460 --> 00:36:47.760
going to turn it this way and you're not going

00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:50.639
to like it. But it's going to accomplish my purposes.

00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:54.119
Because God being infinite in nature and us being

00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:56.579
finite in nature, we can't wrap our minds around.

00:36:57.739 --> 00:36:59.900
His knowledge is too high. The scripture says,

00:37:00.219 --> 00:37:02.440
We can't understand it. Nor should we. Yeah,

00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:05.099
exactly. And the thought that we even do is just

00:37:05.099 --> 00:37:10.219
precocious and arrogant. So I thought about those

00:37:10.219 --> 00:37:11.780
characters. You're naming off all the popular

00:37:11.780 --> 00:37:13.980
guys. I'm going, wait, wait, wait. No, no. I'm

00:37:13.980 --> 00:37:16.179
talking about the - That's me, Jimmy. I'm a populist.

00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:18.219
No, no, no. I'm thinking about the kings. Yeah.

00:37:18.460 --> 00:37:21.519
You know, when I like, you know, like in a president

00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:23.699
or whatever, for all practical intents and purposes

00:37:23.699 --> 00:37:26.380
with the templates we have. So I think about,

00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:30.409
I was actually thinking about Trump because Oh,

00:37:30.510 --> 00:37:33.789
who's the guy from Fox News that always was given

00:37:33.789 --> 00:37:38.289
that last girl big hard time? Jesse Waters? No,

00:37:38.349 --> 00:37:40.250
no, no. No, he was, he was part of the press

00:37:40.250 --> 00:37:44.030
pool. Oh, Peter Doocy. Yeah, Doocy. I used to

00:37:44.030 --> 00:37:46.969
like that guy. So especially when he's on, just

00:37:46.969 --> 00:37:49.800
on a roll. He was actually questioning Trump

00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:53.280
on an airplane, I think on Air Force One. And

00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:54.699
he said, hey, do you think you're going to go

00:37:54.699 --> 00:37:58.159
to heaven? And Trump was like, oh, wow. He went

00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:01.260
him -hawing. And he goes, I don't know. Maybe

00:38:01.260 --> 00:38:04.139
I'm not. He doesn't quite know what it takes.

00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:07.239
So what happens was everybody jumps on that.

00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:11.019
Of course. And I'm just thinking, OK, I did not.

00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:15.019
vote for him to be my pastor. I voted for him

00:38:15.019 --> 00:38:17.159
to be our president and to lead us out of the

00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:19.159
mess that we've gotten ourselves into, and he's

00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:21.920
doing it. He's doing a phenomenal job. He doesn't

00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:23.440
do everything the way I want him to. He says

00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:25.599
stuff I just cringe, you know, please go back

00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:27.699
to the script, you know, get back on your teleprompter.

00:38:28.099 --> 00:38:32.300
But again, I voted for a man who's on the edge.

00:38:32.460 --> 00:38:34.440
I voted for a man who, for practical intents

00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:37.860
and purpose, is not safe. He's dangerous. Kind

00:38:37.860 --> 00:38:40.789
of like Aslan. Yeah, there you go. A beautiful

00:38:40.789 --> 00:38:42.889
outlaw, you know, from John Oates talking about

00:38:42.889 --> 00:38:46.849
the wildness of Jesus. So to me, I actually agree

00:38:46.849 --> 00:38:50.510
with that. I mean, God does use... The bad boys.

00:38:50.630 --> 00:38:53.989
The bad boys to get it done. I love that so much.

00:38:53.989 --> 00:38:56.110
Look at people who move the needle in the earth,

00:38:56.210 --> 00:38:58.530
in the world. They're not your normal people.

00:38:58.530 --> 00:39:01.369
Ever. And they're not your safe people. They're

00:39:01.369 --> 00:39:04.710
people like Steve Jobs. They're people who are

00:39:04.710 --> 00:39:07.869
a little on the edge and sometimes a lot, but

00:39:07.869 --> 00:39:10.230
they move the needle. They leave Awake bodies

00:39:10.230 --> 00:39:13.769
behind them, but they change things in the larger

00:39:13.769 --> 00:39:18.469
landscape of the world and history. And so there's

00:39:18.469 --> 00:39:21.570
a lot of eccentricity about leaders at that level.

00:39:21.769 --> 00:39:24.190
So that's how I see Trump. He's eccentric. Well,

00:39:24.190 --> 00:39:26.530
and I bring this up for a series of clips that

00:39:26.530 --> 00:39:29.130
I think are important. And I hope that this will

00:39:29.130 --> 00:39:31.869
go far and wide, as you always pray before we

00:39:31.869 --> 00:39:34.989
start the show. Because in my opinion, would

00:39:34.989 --> 00:39:38.159
President Trump has done with this and is doing

00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:42.980
is he is breaking apart a very, very old system

00:39:42.980 --> 00:39:47.039
that has been in place really since the 70s.

00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:51.019
And it has been, you can call them neoconservatives.

00:39:51.219 --> 00:39:53.639
There's a lot of Jewish names, but that's all

00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:55.880
by design. And I just want to play these clips

00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:58.599
so people can understand, particularly our Gen

00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:03.110
Z listeners. because you need to understand where

00:40:03.110 --> 00:40:05.630
this came from and what President Trump has actually

00:40:05.630 --> 00:40:09.969
been just blasting apart. And they're stunned.

00:40:10.469 --> 00:40:13.409
They cannot believe what is happening. By the

00:40:13.409 --> 00:40:15.570
way, it was so funny. So he went down this whole

00:40:15.570 --> 00:40:21.369
list of people and Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister

00:40:21.369 --> 00:40:24.079
of the UK, he's standing. who, by the way, only

00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:26.780
hurt the process by calling for a two -state

00:40:26.780 --> 00:40:31.400
solution, and that gave Hamas all kinds of extra,

00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:34.159
oh, well, you might as well wait then for that.

00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:36.760
And he went down this, he was thanking everybody,

00:40:36.860 --> 00:40:38.760
he's giving everybody the props, and it's alphabetical.

00:40:39.059 --> 00:40:41.300
And you see Starmer, for some reason, Starmer's

00:40:41.300 --> 00:40:43.260
on the stage behind him. He just walked up there

00:40:43.260 --> 00:40:45.579
and stood with Giorgia Maloney, who actually

00:40:45.579 --> 00:40:48.420
does belong there, from Italy. And he gets to

00:40:48.420 --> 00:40:50.260
the United Kingdom, and Starmer comes forward,

00:40:50.420 --> 00:40:53.210
it's like he's gonna speak, and Trump just, body

00:40:53.210 --> 00:40:55.210
checks him and jumps in front and you say, okay,

00:40:55.309 --> 00:40:59.809
thanks, Kier. Wow. He just body checked him right

00:40:59.809 --> 00:41:01.710
out. Like, whoop, no, you're not speaking here.

00:41:01.710 --> 00:41:04.690
It's like a Wayne Gretzky move right there. He

00:41:04.690 --> 00:41:08.449
let the guy from Egypt talk and from India and

00:41:08.449 --> 00:41:13.710
Pakistan. Art of the deal brother those those

00:41:13.710 --> 00:41:17.250
people they are true enemies in my opinion He

00:41:17.250 --> 00:41:20.929
knows not the UK or the UK people But that system

00:41:20.929 --> 00:41:23.889
is no good and and just think about who really

00:41:23.889 --> 00:41:26.449
started this whole thing Drawing lines in the

00:41:26.449 --> 00:41:28.889
desert and saying here you go. That was England

00:41:28.889 --> 00:41:32.349
You know, and I don't think that they had good

00:41:32.349 --> 00:41:35.170
intentions at the time. Anyway, this is Michael

00:41:35.170 --> 00:41:38.780
Hudson Michael Hudson is an economist And he's

00:41:38.780 --> 00:41:41.019
getting up there in the years now. He's in his

00:41:41.019 --> 00:41:45.219
80s. And he has been interested. This is actually

00:41:45.219 --> 00:41:48.260
from maybe even a year ago. It was so good. I

00:41:48.260 --> 00:41:51.119
wanted to share it with you. He's talking about

00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:54.039
the system that was set up in the 70s with the

00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:57.760
State Department and why the aircraft carrier

00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:01.280
in the desert was created, which is what our

00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:04.000
military industrial complex still calls it, the

00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.380
aircraft carrier. Hopefully this will dispel

00:42:07.380 --> 00:42:10.840
any idea that people have that Israel controls

00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:14.139
Trump, Israel controls our entire Congress, Israel

00:42:14.139 --> 00:42:17.320
controls America. Israel just wants to draw us

00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:19.920
into war. It was not Bibi Netanyahu who came

00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:22.820
in the 90s and said it. It was these people that

00:42:22.820 --> 00:42:25.599
did it. And this is what's being broken apart.

00:42:26.139 --> 00:42:28.260
Everything that's happened today was planned

00:42:28.260 --> 00:42:33.750
out just 50 years ago. Back in 1974, 1973 and

00:42:33.750 --> 00:42:37.590
four, I sat in on meetings with the Red who became

00:42:37.590 --> 00:42:42.449
Netanyahu's chief military advisor after heading

00:42:42.449 --> 00:42:47.630
Mossad. And the whole strategy was worked out

00:42:47.630 --> 00:42:51.769
essentially by the Defense Department, by neoliberals.

00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:57.000
and almost in a series of stages that I'll explain.

00:42:57.500 --> 00:43:00.400
Scoop Jackson is the main name to remember. Scoop

00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:04.099
Jackson was the ultra right -wing neocon who

00:43:04.099 --> 00:43:07.679
sponsored them all. He was the head of the Democratic

00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:11.599
National Committee in 1960 and then worked with

00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:15.960
military advisors. I was with Herman Kahn, the

00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:18.380
model for Dr. Strangelove at the Hudson Institute

00:43:18.380 --> 00:43:22.480
during these years. And I sat in. on meetings,

00:43:22.500 --> 00:43:24.880
and I'll describe them. But I want to describe

00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:28.260
how the whole strategy that led to the United

00:43:28.260 --> 00:43:31.659
States today not wanting peace, wanting to take

00:43:31.659 --> 00:43:34.159
over the whole Near East, took shape gradually.

00:43:35.059 --> 00:43:38.000
OK, so you've got the setting here. It's military

00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:41.679
industrial complex, which are the direct funders

00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:44.940
through the American Israeli Education Foundation

00:43:44.940 --> 00:43:48.280
of AIPAC, which is what everyone thinks Israel's

00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:51.619
controlling it. Yeah. I'm sure there's some big

00:43:51.619 --> 00:43:53.699
Jewish donors there, and I'm sure that we all

00:43:53.699 --> 00:43:57.119
write resolutions, and it probably should be

00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:00.380
registered under Farah, but it's Military Industrial

00:44:00.380 --> 00:44:03.480
Complex who has run this from the beginning,

00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:05.340
and that's what they're always doing. Before

00:44:05.340 --> 00:44:07.340
you go forward, a couple of terms that we need

00:44:07.340 --> 00:44:09.239
to... I'm going to pretend I don't know everything

00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:12.340
that's been said. Please, good. NEOCONS. Well,

00:44:12.340 --> 00:44:15.579
that's actually a good question. It stands for

00:44:15.579 --> 00:44:19.407
NEO -Conservatives, and it was a group of...

00:44:19.500 --> 00:44:25.639
This fly, this fly, he's so mine. I would just

00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:29.679
call them the warmongers. They literally, so

00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:32.099
was the Neo as a new, the new conservatives,

00:44:32.659 --> 00:44:37.360
and they were really more involved in military

00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:41.590
money and oil. The Middle East has always been

00:44:41.590 --> 00:44:43.750
about resources. Same with Africa, by the way,

00:44:43.809 --> 00:44:47.650
but that's kind of France. France and England,

00:44:47.690 --> 00:44:51.409
BP, Total Oil, they all have Africa. We've kind

00:44:51.409 --> 00:44:53.429
of stayed out of that. And how's that worked

00:44:53.429 --> 00:44:55.610
out, by the way? That's really good in Africa.

00:44:56.469 --> 00:44:59.469
So the Middle East has always been about oil,

00:44:59.710 --> 00:45:03.090
gas, resources, et cetera. Pipelines, this is

00:45:03.090 --> 00:45:05.150
what it's always been about. And if you look

00:45:05.150 --> 00:45:08.150
at right into the Bush family, I know a lot of

00:45:08.150 --> 00:45:12.570
people love Papa Bush, but they were oil guys.

00:45:12.730 --> 00:45:16.929
They were big, big oil guys. And people like

00:45:16.929 --> 00:45:20.329
Cheney, these are just, I'm sorry, these were

00:45:20.329 --> 00:45:24.070
not good people. Not good people at all. One

00:45:24.070 --> 00:45:27.090
other thing, neoliberals. What's a neoliberal

00:45:27.090 --> 00:45:29.789
as opposed to a liberal? Well, I don't really

00:45:29.789 --> 00:45:32.030
have an answer for that. Did he say that? Did

00:45:32.030 --> 00:45:36.349
he say neoliberals? He did. Probably, I don't

00:45:36.349 --> 00:45:39.730
have an answer for that. For me, and any of our

00:45:39.730 --> 00:45:42.289
listeners who are not versed in this, I'm trying

00:45:42.289 --> 00:45:43.550
to be on this learning curve. Well, I would say

00:45:43.550 --> 00:45:46.110
they're two sides of the same coin, basically.

00:45:46.190 --> 00:45:50.949
Neo -liberal, like Barack Obama is a liberal,

00:45:51.250 --> 00:45:54.750
but he had a kill list. He droned people to death

00:45:54.750 --> 00:45:57.909
every Tuesday. So it's two sides of the same

00:45:57.909 --> 00:46:04.599
coin. Neo knew anything. Did they set this strategy

00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:06.460
in place? And it's actually quite logical when

00:46:06.460 --> 00:46:09.039
you think about it. The starting point for all

00:46:09.039 --> 00:46:12.460
the US strategy here was that democracies no

00:46:12.460 --> 00:46:16.460
longer can field a domestic army with a military

00:46:16.460 --> 00:46:21.920
draft. America is not in a position able to really

00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:25.239
field enough of an army to invade a country.

00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:28.920
And without invading a country, you can't really

00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:31.690
take it over. You can bomb it. But that just

00:46:31.690 --> 00:46:34.929
is going to incite resistance. So this was recognized

00:46:34.929 --> 00:46:38.690
50 years ago. And it seemed at that time that

00:46:38.690 --> 00:46:41.670
the U .S.-backed wars were going to have to be

00:46:41.670 --> 00:46:45.250
scaled down. But that hasn't happened. And the

00:46:45.250 --> 00:46:47.929
reason is the United States had a fallback position.

00:46:48.250 --> 00:46:52.230
It was going to rely on foreign troops to do

00:46:52.230 --> 00:46:56.309
the fighting as proxies instead of itself. That

00:46:56.309 --> 00:46:58.989
was a solution to get a force. Well, the first

00:46:58.989 --> 00:47:03.170
example was to create the Wahhabi Jihad fighters

00:47:03.170 --> 00:47:07.730
in Afghanistan as al -Qaeda. And Jimmy Carter

00:47:07.730 --> 00:47:12.309
mobilized them against the secular Afghan interests.

00:47:12.989 --> 00:47:16.050
And Carter justified this by saying, well, yes,

00:47:16.070 --> 00:47:18.429
they're Muslims, but after all, we all believe

00:47:18.429 --> 00:47:21.949
in God. So the answer to the secular state of

00:47:21.949 --> 00:47:26.829
Afghan was Wahhabi fanaticism and jihad. And

00:47:26.829 --> 00:47:30.329
the United States realized that in order to have

00:47:30.329 --> 00:47:32.769
an army that's willing to fight to the last member

00:47:32.769 --> 00:47:36.269
of its country, the last Afghan, the last Israeli,

00:47:36.590 --> 00:47:39.969
the last Ukrainian, you really need a country

00:47:39.969 --> 00:47:43.760
whose spirit is one of hatred towards the other,

00:47:43.980 --> 00:47:48.239
a spirit very different from the American and

00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:52.219
European spirit. Well, Brzezinski was the grand

00:47:52.219 --> 00:47:55.840
planner who did all that. So this is critical

00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:58.739
to understand. After Vietnam, you couldn't get

00:47:58.739 --> 00:48:01.820
a draft together. You couldn't... I mean, 2009,

00:48:01.820 --> 00:48:04.900
11 was different because it was like, hey, man,

00:48:04.940 --> 00:48:07.340
we got attacked. We got to go literally got to

00:48:07.340 --> 00:48:09.179
get the towel heads. I mean, that's how crazy

00:48:09.179 --> 00:48:12.480
we were at the time. And That's for a whole other

00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:16.019
show some other day. But this was the intent.

00:48:16.179 --> 00:48:18.639
Let's get people who already hate the people

00:48:18.639 --> 00:48:22.099
that we want to take out. And Ukraine is really,

00:48:22.099 --> 00:48:24.960
really salient at this point because that's exactly

00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:27.559
what it was. Who sparked this revolution? We

00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.820
did. The same people. You know, Victoria Nuland.

00:48:32.219 --> 00:48:34.099
I mean, the Wolfowitz guys then weren't there

00:48:34.099 --> 00:48:36.400
anymore. But this is our State Department. Our

00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:38.179
State Department was there handing out donuts

00:48:38.179 --> 00:48:41.860
and cookies because they so desperately hated

00:48:41.860 --> 00:48:47.139
Russia. Why Russia? Most oil in the entire world,

00:48:47.139 --> 00:48:50.719
bigger than the whole Middle East. I know it's

00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:54.320
weird to think about it, but that's it's really

00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:56.739
the truth. It's always been about those resources.

00:48:56.780 --> 00:49:01.170
So this is why Israel became like our foreign

00:49:01.170 --> 00:49:06.469
legion, our aircraft carrier in the desert. I

00:49:06.469 --> 00:49:09.510
would say the Brits were a big part of this with

00:49:09.510 --> 00:49:14.130
their oil companies as well. They don't want

00:49:14.130 --> 00:49:16.110
peace. They don't want peace. They want it to

00:49:16.110 --> 00:49:19.309
be strife continuously, destabilize all of these

00:49:19.309 --> 00:49:21.769
nations around them. When all of this strategy

00:49:21.769 --> 00:49:25.150
was being put together, Herman Kahn's great achievement

00:49:25.150 --> 00:49:28.269
was to convince the U .S. empire builders that

00:49:28.269 --> 00:49:31.030
the key to achieving their control of the Middle

00:49:31.030 --> 00:49:34.429
East was to rely on Israel as its foreign legion.

00:49:34.510 --> 00:49:38.030
And that arm's -length arrangement enabled the

00:49:38.030 --> 00:49:41.590
United States to play the role, as I said, of

00:49:41.590 --> 00:49:45.190
the good God, designating Israel to play its

00:49:45.190 --> 00:49:48.590
role. And Israel has organized and supplied al

00:49:48.590 --> 00:49:52.610
-Nusra, al -Qaeda, while the United States pretends

00:49:52.610 --> 00:49:55.329
to denounce them. And it's all part of a plan

00:49:55.329 --> 00:49:59.179
that's been back... by the military, the State

00:49:59.179 --> 00:50:01.699
Department, and the National Security Operation.

00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:04.579
And that's why the State Department has turned

00:50:04.579 --> 00:50:08.340
over management of U .S. diplomacy to Zionists,

00:50:08.739 --> 00:50:12.900
seemingly distinguishing Israeli behavior from

00:50:12.900 --> 00:50:16.500
U .S. empire building. But in a nutshell, the

00:50:16.500 --> 00:50:21.420
Israelis have joined Al -Qaeda and ISIS's troops

00:50:21.420 --> 00:50:25.190
as America's foreign legion. This is the point.

00:50:25.409 --> 00:50:29.190
They got real zealots in there. They got real

00:50:29.190 --> 00:50:31.989
Zionist haters who were like, whatever, we just

00:50:31.989 --> 00:50:35.110
got to kill all Muslims, kill all Arabs. And

00:50:35.110 --> 00:50:37.710
that was running our State Department for decades.

00:50:38.110 --> 00:50:42.469
So while it is true that Israel has literally

00:50:42.469 --> 00:50:47.269
been abused for oil interests, it's us controlling

00:50:47.269 --> 00:50:50.369
them, not the other way around. Total sense.

00:50:50.650 --> 00:50:53.739
Yeah, I see it. Completely. And we don't have

00:50:53.739 --> 00:50:55.860
to play anymore because it just goes into more

00:50:55.860 --> 00:50:58.920
depth and more detail. But this was the setup.

00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:02.420
And President Trump came in and went, no, I'm

00:51:02.420 --> 00:51:04.239
going to stop. You think that no one else could

00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:06.179
have done this? Of course they could have, but

00:51:06.179 --> 00:51:10.840
no one had the bullish, I'm not going to stop.

00:51:11.500 --> 00:51:14.559
No holds barred. I don't care. I'm going to do

00:51:14.559 --> 00:51:17.650
it all. attitude that President Trump has. And

00:51:17.650 --> 00:51:20.550
so to me, he's like the ultimate bad boy that

00:51:20.550 --> 00:51:27.010
God used. And it's not just the ceasefire in

00:51:27.010 --> 00:51:31.150
Gaza. It is the entire Arab world uniting saying,

00:51:31.309 --> 00:51:34.750
you know, we're tired of this crap. We're not

00:51:34.750 --> 00:51:37.809
going to do this anymore. And let's work together.

00:51:38.010 --> 00:51:40.269
You know, we can and actually we can build something

00:51:40.269 --> 00:51:43.150
pretty cool in Gaza and we're actually out. I

00:51:43.150 --> 00:51:45.329
think President Trump is like, you were out.

00:51:45.630 --> 00:51:48.730
You said you do it on you. You go do it. You

00:51:48.730 --> 00:51:51.150
go do it. We've carried you too long. That's

00:51:51.150 --> 00:51:54.750
what I've been blown away by. So I don't want

00:51:54.750 --> 00:51:57.670
to see this movie play out. We talked about before

00:51:57.670 --> 00:52:02.340
I grew up with. grandmothers with tattooed numbers

00:52:02.340 --> 00:52:04.599
on their arms from the concentration camps. I've

00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:07.940
heard too many stories. And it starts just like

00:52:07.940 --> 00:52:11.820
this, with misinformation, disinformation, bad

00:52:11.820 --> 00:52:16.260
podcasts who are misinformed and who have really

00:52:16.260 --> 00:52:18.639
good intentions because they feel that their

00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:22.239
country is being abused and misused by this tiny

00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:26.820
nation. Get a clue. Get a clue. That's not how

00:52:26.820 --> 00:52:31.119
it is working. And I hope that certainly church

00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:34.719
members and pastors, they will listen and try

00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:38.920
to steer our, certainly our Gen Z generation,

00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:42.139
steer them right because they only have one enemy.

00:52:42.300 --> 00:52:45.119
Let's show them the real enemy. Let's show them

00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:47.420
who's really pulling the strings behind the curtain

00:52:47.420 --> 00:52:52.130
so they can move on with their lives. Walk over

00:52:52.130 --> 00:52:55.250
our backs, okay? We'll lay down in the mud. But

00:52:55.250 --> 00:52:58.590
you've got to help them understand this because

00:52:58.590 --> 00:53:02.809
they're confused and their own almost peers are

00:53:02.809 --> 00:53:05.429
misinforming them. You're one generation ahead

00:53:05.429 --> 00:53:07.670
of them. And you see it all over social media.

00:53:07.769 --> 00:53:11.289
You see it all over the news feeds. Weird thing

00:53:11.289 --> 00:53:13.130
for me, when I go to the gym, I go to Planet

00:53:13.130 --> 00:53:16.489
Fitness and it's... There's like 30 screens.

00:53:17.409 --> 00:53:20.369
I mean, every new service, every channel you

00:53:20.369 --> 00:53:24.219
can imagine. And I try not to watch. But the

00:53:24.219 --> 00:53:26.840
views on here, Fox News is right next to it.

00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:29.400
They're juxtaposed. And it's just, oh, I know.

00:53:29.619 --> 00:53:32.280
They did that. Whoever did that, I need to go

00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:34.539
talk to them and say, guys, would you separate

00:53:34.539 --> 00:53:35.699
that by a few channels? I bet it makes you work

00:53:35.699 --> 00:53:38.300
out much harder. Like, oh, what is that? Try

00:53:38.300 --> 00:53:40.980
not to look. I told Annette, I said I'd do everything

00:53:40.980 --> 00:53:44.340
in my power not to look. Because even though

00:53:44.340 --> 00:53:46.000
I don't, you know, they've got it, you know,

00:53:46.219 --> 00:53:47.760
closed captioned, right? So you can tell what

00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:49.619
they're saying. And I'm just like, I'm trying

00:53:49.619 --> 00:53:53.820
not to look. And because it's just a steady diet

00:53:53.820 --> 00:53:59.119
of misinformation, disinformation, skewed information,

00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:01.460
partly true, enough truth to make you believe

00:54:01.460 --> 00:54:03.619
it, but not true enough to actually do anything

00:54:03.619 --> 00:54:08.599
about or make change. And it's destroying, it's

00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:11.820
destroying people's lives. And it's destroying

00:54:11.820 --> 00:54:15.860
our, yeah, destroying people's lives. You said

00:54:15.860 --> 00:54:17.900
it right there. It's destroying community, a

00:54:17.900 --> 00:54:21.260
sense of community. Any time you any town you

00:54:21.260 --> 00:54:23.280
live in now because I think about our town in

00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:25.059
Fredericksburg, it's you're almost talking about

00:54:25.059 --> 00:54:28.500
two towns Yeah, you know, we're so divided and

00:54:28.500 --> 00:54:31.559
it's like them over there. We know what they're

00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:33.239
gonna do We know what they're gonna say to the

00:54:33.239 --> 00:54:35.099
school board No, they're gonna they're gonna

00:54:35.099 --> 00:54:37.960
support the the books and all that and then and

00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:40.019
then you've got the group over here Who's you

00:54:40.019 --> 00:54:41.539
know, they're gonna go in and read the books,

00:54:41.539 --> 00:54:45.539
you know, and it we're so divided so separated

00:54:45.539 --> 00:54:50.230
and I mean, this is in every community right

00:54:50.230 --> 00:54:54.510
now. And I know we've been here before. This

00:54:54.510 --> 00:54:57.650
is not the first time. It always feels exceptional

00:54:57.650 --> 00:54:59.170
to you. Nothing new under the sun, brother. That

00:54:59.170 --> 00:55:01.449
there's nothing new under the sun. So we know

00:55:01.449 --> 00:55:06.309
things can change. I think that Trump's role

00:55:06.309 --> 00:55:08.789
in all of this is to come in like a wrecking

00:55:08.789 --> 00:55:13.510
ball and break up and destroy all these constructs.

00:55:13.869 --> 00:55:16.869
that had become so normal that even the politicians,

00:55:16.969 --> 00:55:18.750
the good guys in there don't even realize they're

00:55:18.750 --> 00:55:21.369
doing it because it's so part of the game. It's

00:55:21.369 --> 00:55:24.309
just normal. This is how we play. This is how

00:55:24.309 --> 00:55:27.530
we do it. But you've got fresh faces coming on

00:55:27.530 --> 00:55:30.789
the scene like Victor Marks, who's going to go

00:55:30.789 --> 00:55:34.550
in and run for governor of Colorado. Could he

00:55:34.550 --> 00:55:38.010
be another bad boy? I think so. And that's one

00:55:38.010 --> 00:55:41.530
dude I would not go up against in any scenario,

00:55:41.670 --> 00:55:44.460
whether you're standing there with a a rostrum

00:55:44.460 --> 00:55:46.460
in front of you or not, because you're going

00:55:46.460 --> 00:55:50.380
to meet him in the elevator later. I mean, God's

00:55:50.380 --> 00:55:53.119
bringing some people on the scene. But also as

00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:56.840
Christians, believers, I don't want us to get

00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:59.340
to the point where we're afraid to say what we

00:55:59.340 --> 00:56:02.099
feel about Israel or about the Jewish people,

00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:04.000
because that's next. And by the way, they're

00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:06.579
going to come for Christians next. Oh, well,

00:56:06.820 --> 00:56:08.820
Jews, Christians. Absolutely. that goes right

00:56:08.820 --> 00:56:12.539
down the line. Which is exactly what happened

00:56:12.539 --> 00:56:15.760
in Germany. Precisely. In the 40s and 50s. First

00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:18.219
they came for the Jews, I said nothing, etc.

00:56:18.260 --> 00:56:21.900
It's down the line. So what a moment this is

00:56:21.900 --> 00:56:24.659
in history and thank you Lord for repeating it

00:56:24.659 --> 00:56:27.139
and giving us the tools and the information to

00:56:27.139 --> 00:56:30.360
recognize it and do something about it. And call

00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:33.679
it out and then do what we continue to do every

00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:37.869
week unapologetically. Pray for, bless, Israel,

00:56:37.869 --> 00:56:40.349
but also pray for their salvation. Pray they'll

00:56:40.349 --> 00:56:43.329
come to know Jesus Christ as Messiah. And by

00:56:43.329 --> 00:56:47.090
the way, the Jews I know in Israel... They need

00:56:47.090 --> 00:56:50.030
some schooling, too. Absolutely. They're still

00:56:50.030 --> 00:56:52.530
like, everyone hates us. Well, calm down, brother.

00:56:52.789 --> 00:56:57.369
Not everybody hates you. My friends in Tel Aviv,

00:56:57.369 --> 00:57:01.150
they're stuck in it. The war is over, and now

00:57:01.150 --> 00:57:02.889
all of a sudden they've got nothing to hate.

00:57:03.190 --> 00:57:05.409
So they have their own issues. Man, that is true.

00:57:05.750 --> 00:57:07.550
There's got to be a name for that when you live

00:57:07.550 --> 00:57:11.230
spun up, hypervigilant like that, where... When

00:57:11.230 --> 00:57:14.389
whatever was the antagonist goes away, you don't

00:57:14.389 --> 00:57:16.869
know how to function. There's got to be a name

00:57:16.869 --> 00:57:18.530
for that, I'm sure there is. We just say spun

00:57:18.530 --> 00:57:21.309
up. Yeah, you're spun up, but whatever you were

00:57:21.309 --> 00:57:24.230
spun up about has gone away. I've got some friends

00:57:24.230 --> 00:57:26.449
that the only time I hear from them is when things

00:57:26.449 --> 00:57:28.289
get weird or crazy, and all of a sudden I'm getting

00:57:28.289 --> 00:57:30.650
memes, and you know, oh man, oh whoa, and I'm

00:57:30.650 --> 00:57:32.809
like, I haven't heard from you in a month, man.

00:57:33.010 --> 00:57:36.349
Let me play something positive. I'll use a Jimmy

00:57:36.349 --> 00:57:40.219
-ism as we start to land the plane. We did watch

00:57:40.219 --> 00:57:42.639
the Dove Awards. It was a little tough for me

00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:44.880
to watch because, you know, it's the GMA, the

00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:46.900
Gospel Music Association, so it was a lot of

00:57:46.900 --> 00:57:49.860
stuff I wasn't familiar with. And I was kind

00:57:49.860 --> 00:57:51.340
of like, yeah, it was Brandon Lake, you know,

00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:53.400
he was getting all the awards awarded earlier.

00:57:53.500 --> 00:57:58.320
I'm like... So he did win I think record of the

00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:01.340
year song of the year for Jelly Roll with Jelly

00:58:01.340 --> 00:58:04.320
Roll and I just wanted to play Jelly Roll's part

00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:06.099
of the acceptance speech because it was just

00:58:06.099 --> 00:58:09.579
so and I think he does speak to a Gen Z generation.

00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:13.099
Y 'all forgive me I'm one I'm not sure how much

00:58:13.099 --> 00:58:15.840
I even belong speaking up here right now but

00:58:18.730 --> 00:58:21.110
And I'm nervous. I ain't been this nervous since

00:58:21.110 --> 00:58:23.050
I went to criminal court, y 'all. This is a real

00:58:23.050 --> 00:58:25.989
thing for me. I mean, I'm sweaty palm. But I

00:58:25.989 --> 00:58:27.550
was listening to him and I was thinking about

00:58:27.550 --> 00:58:30.329
Matthew when he talks about the least. When he

00:58:30.329 --> 00:58:32.530
said, when I was hungry, you fed me. When I was

00:58:32.530 --> 00:58:34.909
thirsty, you gave me water. When I was in jail,

00:58:34.949 --> 00:58:39.030
you came and visited me. And I realized that

00:58:39.030 --> 00:58:41.909
I'm standing here because people took time with

00:58:41.909 --> 00:58:45.809
the least. And I want to give this message as

00:58:45.809 --> 00:58:49.219
clear as I can right now. The world is hearing

00:58:49.219 --> 00:58:51.860
about Jesus like they haven't in decades right

00:58:51.860 --> 00:58:57.000
now There is a revival Happening in the United

00:58:57.000 --> 00:58:59.599
States of America where you can't go on a corner

00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:02.380
and not hear about Jesus right now And while

00:59:02.380 --> 00:59:05.320
we are hearing about Jesus, I encourage you to

00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:08.719
put faith on your feet and feet on your faith

00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:11.380
and walk out of this building and go do for the

00:59:11.380 --> 00:59:13.659
least. They've heard of Jesus. Now show them

00:59:13.659 --> 00:59:17.099
Jesus. Go feed the poor. Go visit the ones in

00:59:17.099 --> 00:59:20.159
jail. Go show them who Jesus was. We're done

00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:23.019
talking. It's time to show. I thank you for the

00:59:23.019 --> 00:59:24.980
double award. I think this thing is great. I

00:59:24.980 --> 00:59:27.039
think it gives alternative programming for kids

00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:29.219
at home watching this. My son's watching this.

00:59:29.300 --> 00:59:31.000
I think this is awesome. He gets to watch an

00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:34.159
award show like this. I thank God. that I could

00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:36.519
see the forest for the trees. God bless that."

00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:40.900
Boom. Man, drop the mic and give an invitation

00:59:40.900 --> 00:59:44.099
and take up an offering, man. That was preaching.

00:59:44.099 --> 00:59:47.380
Had you not seen that? No, I have not. We were

00:59:47.380 --> 00:59:51.239
at home going, what just happened? He was preaching.

00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:54.300
Preached. That was so good. Man, that is beautiful.

00:59:54.739 --> 00:59:58.239
Gosh, I love it. Man, I love it when imperfect.

00:59:59.099 --> 01:00:02.960
God uses the broken. He uses the imperfect. to

01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:07.239
show off, to show who he really is. I wrote my

01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:10.099
DG this morning, I sent it over to you on God

01:00:10.099 --> 01:00:12.940
is good, man, Psalm 145, talking about God is

01:00:12.940 --> 01:00:17.420
good to all. He's good. And people get in these

01:00:17.420 --> 01:00:21.119
terrible places. Because circumstances aren't

01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:23.239
going good, they start to project that to say,

01:00:23.400 --> 01:00:25.280
well, then God isn't good. If circumstances aren't

01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:27.199
good, then God's not good. God's not good all

01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:29.960
the time. Yeah, he is. He's spotting your circumstances.

01:00:30.179 --> 01:00:32.969
I mean, listen to Jelly Roll preach. Gosh, that

01:00:32.969 --> 01:00:35.510
was awesome. That lift pulled me up out of the

01:00:35.510 --> 01:00:37.670
pit, man. Pulled me out of the rabbit hole. Then

01:00:37.670 --> 01:00:39.949
let's go before anything else happens, brother.

01:00:39.949 --> 01:00:41.610
Before we break it. Thank you so much, brother.

01:00:41.869 --> 01:00:43.829
I love doing this with you. This is so good.

01:00:44.090 --> 01:00:46.409
We get to do this, and we'll do it again with

01:00:46.409 --> 01:00:47.969
you next week. Join us, please.