Alyx is going to come on from Collectors MD um
let me let me do a couple let me just get situated
here uh Orlando and Dan were nice enough to ask
some questions and you know Collectors MD and
Alyx i he's not going to shy away he wants to
answer Alyx how you doing today Jason what's
up man good to see you again hey thanks for coming
back i know you took some you took some heat
last time you were here it's all good it's par
for the course and you know what Jason like i
told you if we could reach just one person in
this group, this live tonight, that needs our
support, needs our help. That is, that makes
this all worth it. Even through, you know, a
lot of the, the backlash and the naysayers. I'm
glad you can answer to him because Dan, I'm more
than happy. And I'm happy you can. And I'm very
interested to hear the answers and the answers
I've heard offline seem pretty valid and reasonable.
So I don't think I have anything to shy away
from. Maybe we'll find out. I don't know, but
the questions they asked were, Fair. Let's say
that I think they're fair questions. So I'm going
to jump right to it a little long. And these
first ones are from Dan. And so Collectors MD
lists the following breaking platforms as partner.
CardsHQ, Sports Cards Nonsense, Rippinwax, RipHamiltonRips.
Please explain how it's beneficial for Collectors MD
to partner with breakers and purported influencers
who promote gambling as a major aspect of their
business. And I'm sure you've thought about this,
I'm sure. So there had to be some thought prior.
So go ahead and tell us. as you're thinking here
yeah and you said Orlando and who was the other
so Dan's Vintage Baseball right right right i
remember Dan yeah no these that's totally a fair
question very valid um we have an initiative
called Rip Responsibly and so when people see
Collectors MD partnering with hobby brands through
this Rip Responsibly initiative it's totally
fair to ask why you know why are we partnering
with jeff wilson and and cards hq and and chris
from rip and wax and folks that you know, at
times can be polarizing. And so on the surface,
it can look counterintuitive to work alongside
those very spaces where the harm is occurring.
But that question only makes sense if harm reduction
is viewed as something that happens after the
fact, instead of where risk actually lives. And
so the reality is simple. We can't make meaningful
change from the outside looking in. Harm in this
hobby doesn't happen in isolation or on the margins.
It happens at the center where visibility is
the highest, where the excitement is amplified,
where the money is being thrown around, where
the urgency is normalized. If we want to support
people effectively, we have to present in those
types of environments, right? We can't be sitting
on the sidelines, you know, just trying to make
a bunch of noise. We have to be present inside
of those environments. But, you know, was that
always your was that always your thought or did
that kind of spur on as you went? Just, you know,
just out of curiosity. Yeah, I mean, it definitely
happened organically. It wasn't like the first.
you know, goal when I started Collectors MD, really
the - But maybe something you realized, I was
curious, like, did you realize right away you
kind of would have to go with these or is that
something as you started with the business, you
realized, oh, okay, yeah, this is gonna have
to be how I get visible. It wasn't, it's not
a matter of visibility. It's a matter of we are
reaching individuals who are experiencing crisis
right now. And that crisis is happening inside
of these environments. And right now, inside
of those environments, there is no messaging.
There are no disclaimers. There are no warning
signs. There are no guardrails. And so we're
proactively partnering with these brands, with
these hobby brands, to embed, to integrate the
responsible collecting messaging where it can
actually interrupt unhealthy patterns in real
time. That's why Collectors MD partners with these
brands, these platforms, these creators through
Rip Responsibly. These partnerships aren't intended
to be endorsements or shields or PR exercises.
They're access points. They allow us to introduce
pause, awareness, and education exactly where
the moments of impulse are happening, right?
I mean, it already exists in adjacent industries,
right? Like one of our partners, 800 Gambler.
They work directly with casinos, sportsbooks,
and gaming operators as part of their corporate
responsibility efforts. Now, I don't know. The
problem is I don't know those companies. I don't
know what their insides look like. And we have
you here, but I don't know the ins and outs of
that industry or those kind of companies. And
I think a skeptic who might know, I don't know,
and I'm talking out of my ass here, but I just
don't know those companies. I don't know what
their motivation is. I know what yours are because
you're coming on and telling me. You know, some
people think I feel legit. I'm going to move
to question two. Jeff Wilson has appeared on
multiple videos and streams with Alyx, given
that Wilson has named his breaking room after
arena club, arguably the most insidious Dan gambling
app in the hobby. Great word. What kind of message
does it send to the people who ask collectors
MD for help with their addictions do align with
Wilson and arena club? And I think it's a similar
answer that you just gave, but ties to the exact
same thing. Rip Responsibly operates on the same
principle. And I know you said you don't know
the ins and outs of the casinos and the sports
books, and that's not your... It's hard to trust
some of that stuff. And maybe that's why you
find it, you know, you're between a rock and
a hard place because sometimes it's just hard
to know what's up. Yeah, no, I see the chat going
off. I see people saying trading card anonymous
bullshit is crazy. Yeah, in theory, it is crazy.
But when these systems are designed to be completely
frictionless, To lure people in, you know, to
to exploit young people who are uneducated and
unaware of the harm and the risk associated it
associated with it and disguising it as a childhood
hobby with sports cards and Pokemon cards. That's
the reality of it. And so, you know, we can publish
content. We can host support groups. We can advocate
for reform publicly. And we do. But if the message
never reaches people that are inside the experience,
it arrives too late. So partnering with these
brands, partnering with Jeff Wilson allows harm
reduction to exist within the flow of the hobby,
not just in hindsight. These collaborations,
these partnerships are about shared accountability,
not compromise, right? Brands that engage are
choosing to acknowledge that collecting can be
joyful and risky at the same time. And that long
-term community health matters more than the
short-term momentum. You don't reduce harm by
standing outside the room. You reduce it by showing
up responsibly inside of it. And so that's why
Rip Responsibly exists. That's why we're partnering
with these brands. Again, Dan asked five questions
and I'm going to give him his question. I think
I went to them for a reason because they were
the skeptic. They got age on us. They have wisdom.
They have experience. So their questions are
valid. Is Collectors MD a registered 501c3 institution?
And if not, why not? We touched on this last
time. No, I feel like he had this exact same
question last time. Yeah, give him 30 seconds
and then we can move on. It doesn't have to be
a long. Yeah, so we're set up as an LLC, not
a 501c3, very intentionally, right? It's not
to maximize profit, but to move the speed of
the problem in the direction that it needs to.
The space we operate in sits between culture,
technology, media, public health, that means
we need to operate quickly and efficiently. We
need flexibility to be able to build partnerships
and create content and pilot programs and license
IP and collaborate with platforms and respond
quickly as the hobby evolves. So an LLC gives
us that ability to do that without all of the
friction and the delays and the constraints that
often come with nonprofit structures. There's
just so much red tape when it comes to trying
to set up a nonprofit. And so, yeah, I mean,
it just lets us engage directly with companies,
platforms and creators, including ones that nonprofits
often can't or won't touch while still holding
clear values around, you know, the responsibility,
the transparency and the harm reduction. So we
there are talks we are talking about potentially
creating a 501 C3 branch and working with, you
know, nonprofits and. so that we can have access
to things like state funded grants and, you know,
work within those lanes. But right now with the
- You're not wrong. What's that? No, no, you're
giving great answers. You're at least answering
the questions. You said he's putting me to sleep,
but you're answering the questions. Question
four, I guess, does Collectors MD believe in transparency
enough to make available their annual reports
to select members of the hobby? This is from
Dan. Yeah, we haven't made really any money yet.
I could tell you exactly how much money we've
made so far. But I guess the answer to this question
would be no or yes. Yeah. I mean, yeah. That'll
make them happy to hear. The whole concept is
we're fully transparent. We want to ensure that
our community members fully trust us because
they're trusting us with their livelihoods, their
mental health. This isn't something to laugh
at or, you know, to joke around about. Like,
there are people who join our weekly meetings
who are on, like, the brink of, you know, like,
they don't know. Yeah, I understand what addiction
can do. It's serious. It's really serious. I
have something I want to, my own, you know, I
have my own thing I want to mention, and it leans
more towards that. But does Alice collect a salary
from Collectors MD? Now, you say you don't make
much on the company, but these are his questions.
ideally one day i will but no not right now hey
now i haven't paid myself a dollar interesting
uh okay orlando i think i believe had two or
three questions uh and my goodness we're getting
full down below holy shit no way bro you kidding
me uh oh wow this is insane how can you reach
or treat people with i told Alyx i wouldn't bring
anyone on this will be disrespectful because
i throw you on make sure we're being polite how
can you reach or treat people with the breaking
gambling addiction before they hit rock bottom
um i'm i'm a little distracted by the comments
which is the one that uh that you were just addressing
No, I was addressing this guy. I've never talked
to Rob. Oh, no, no. Rob is great. I'm so glad
he joined. He's one of our community members
now. Hey, Rob, good meeting you, man. You're
one of the only guys doing the right thing over
there. So, yeah, bro, good finally meeting you.
You know what? Before we continue, can we let
Rob just share a few words? Sure. When he mentioned,
I just couldn't hear him very well. How about
now? A little better. Yeah, yeah. All right.
Yeah, the comments are actually very concerning.
I mean, you have quite a following and the guys
down there, they really don't know what they're
talking about. So I'm just here to really just
not preach what he's putting out there. But until
you actually sit in there with the meeting and
you hear some of these stories. I don't know
how much these guys are capitalizing on their
collecting, but the purpose out there is very
genuine. I don't know who's out there that is
very, man, I'm not going to lie, to be honest
with you. No, you're doing fine. You're doing
fine. So you do believe in what Alyx is doing
here. 100%. And you're a pretty, you know, you
lean pretty skeptical and you see what's going
on. So, you know, that, and that's just, that's
just how I am. I don't know. I, I, I get, I get
messages all the time when I put out a video
for Alyx, just whether it's from a breaker or
it's just from a random collector. Yeah. The
volume is a little low, Rob. It's a bummer. I
mean, I'm, I'm enjoying talking with you, but
for some reason it's low, but, uh, how about
now? Oh, way better. Yes. Yes. Yes. So I, I was
getting feedback on my own mic. I apologize.
Oh, way better. No, we can hear you real well
now. Okay. So if you don't know who Rob is, he
takes an angle on Instagram and I see his videos
often there. And he's one of the only ones making
content like, like I do here over there. That's
how I feel about you, Rob. Same. Absolutely.
I sometimes dip into your show. Your comment
section is wild. You are definitely the Howard
Stern of the hobby. You have your own little
rap. They're the best, man. They're hilarious
and the best. But yes, we lean a little skeptical.
So go ahead. I actually want to lean in on what
you're asking Alyx right now. Oh, was that this?
How can you reach or treat people? Or was it
the one before that? No, right there. How you
can reach or treat people. Just tonight, we had
a guy that was in there talking about, and I
don't really want to disclose much of what's
going on, but he just got into the whole breaking
platform and to buying this past year. And you
could hear it in his voice that he didn't know
where to go. Because people are kind of ashamed
to talk about spending too much money on sports
cards. And I don't know, I'm proud to say that,
you know, I collect. But a lot of people, when
they go into debt, they're afraid to talk about
it with their significant others. You know, maybe
they don't really, I don't know, let's call a
spade a spade. There are guys in this platform
that maybe they're kind of maybe the incel type,
and I hate to say that, but it's the truth. And,
you know, I mean, sports can only go so far,
but it's a shame that you guys don't want to
give them a chance. That's all I'm really saying.
And you know, I also want to, you know, we have
200 people right now, a little less, but there's
some vocal people in chat. That's not everybody.
That's also what I mentioned to Alyx. A lot of
people will watch after. So sure. My vocal guys
in the comments, but that's not everyone that,
that, you know, that, that doesn't represent
everybody, I guess. And I think the pushback
is good. And I think you coming on answering
honestly is, is good. And you still are not winning
everybody over. Unfortunately though, Jason,
Jason, listen, when I came into this about a
year, ago and started this movement i had my
reservations trust me i was nervous to put myself
out there talk about my lived experience talk
about my you know um gambling addiction i'm a
recovering gambling addict it's a lifelong commitment
um i have my my past mistakes my transgressions
and i was nervous as hell to pick up a mic and
start talking but it's something that i overcame
and it's something i i do every day And so I'm
in and out of meetings, podcasts. You know, you
know, we host our own podcast. I bring on guests
from the industry, from the recovery world. I
wear my heart on my sleeve. I talk about everything
that I've been through. I have absolutely nothing
to hide. And so, again, like no matter what the
entity is, there's always going to be naysayers.
There's always going to be people throwing stones.
That's the nature of the beast. It comes with
the territory. And that's OK. Because like I
said, if we can just reach one person here, one
of your listeners tonight who needs help and
understands that we offer a free service, weekly
meetings, tools and resources, a website that
is chock full of educational content. Then it's
all worth it. So this is my opinion here, just
mine, because you coming on saying the service
is there is great. That's good to me where it
really hammers home. And even on the website,
it's kind of like played down is I think it's
so much more powerful when you actually hear
someone's story and how bad it was and where
it put them. And that, you know, I understand.
OK, a lot of people don't want to come out and
say that, but. You know, I do think it's beneficial
to show more of the actual problem. So many people
don't even want to say it is a problem or they're
surprised when someone comes out and says how
much they lost. And so I think you're still battling
where people don't even realize or know it's
a problem. And it's good to have people share.
And I know you do that in your your groups, but
sometimes I feel like showing that to the public
can be beneficial for you. Dr. Professor. Hey
now. Hey, Ben, you see, you trust me on that.
Absolutely. I'll take that as motivation for
myself. Okay. All right. Good. Yeah. I mean,
this is totally fair, but I think this also ties
back to what Rob was just talking about. And,
you know, candidly, we just wrapped up our 41st
weekly peer support meeting. We had, we had around,
how many people do we have tonight, Rob? 20,
22. At one point, there was like 23. Two weeks
ago, there was like almost 30 in there. Yeah,
we've had more than that. But, you know, the
common theme is that a lot of these people are
grown adults, right? They're our age. Some are
younger, some are older. I'm 36. And so, you
know, they talk about the shame, the embarrassment.
That, you know, they go into a GA room and they're
talking, you know, they hear from folks that
have a traditional gambling addiction to casinos
and sports books and things of that nature. And
here they are addicted to Pokemon cards and baseball
cards. And so they have a hard time coming out
and saying like, yeah, I have a real problem.
Oh, I think many addicts do. Many. I mean, many,
many. But this takes it to another level because
we're talking about like a childhood hobby. I
find so much power in, in, in hearing other struggles
and knowing you're not alone. I know they could
do that in your meeting, but I just feel instead
of, and the partnerships are, you know, do, do
what you, you know, what did you do to do your
thing? But I just find hearing other people actually
hearing it is going to spread the message more.
It's powerful. When you hear those people, it
is, is very powerful. Totally fair. And I think,
you know, we'd have, we have a number of, um,
community members who have stepped up and have
interviewed. I'm just going to go out and say
we have an article coming out with GQ in the
next month or two. They're going to be covering
a lot of what we talk about, the gambling adjacent
activities and hobbies that have blossomed over
the last several years that are really preying
on customers and their dopamine centers and things
of that nature. We had seven community members
step up to be interviewed by the editor. And
so when that comes out, that's going to be big
time. But testimonials are important. And I actually
really appreciate that feedback. And it's something
we'll definitely consider. Charles, I know you
have a question. Someone has a little feedback,
but I think it's not too bad. But Charles, be
respectful, be kind. What do you want to ask?
I figured you came on to ask Alyx. I could be
wrong. Charles is with me. Charles is. That's
right. That's right. The whole time. That's right.
Charles, what made you come on? Let's let's let's
give you your. I'm just just here to, you know,
answer any questions as well. So the thing about
talking about what we talk about in our weekly
meetings, the whole goal of that is it's sort
of like. you know gamblers anonymous overeaters
anonymous or whatever it's it's anonymous because
there's a lot of shame there a lot of people
are ashamed a lot of people still share and it's
very powerful there's youtube videos of people
talking about how they fucked their life up with
alcohol there's videos of people talking about
how they fucked their life up with sports gambling
and it's a huge message it's what other people
like my brother who struggle i i recommend those
videos so he can hear other people just like
you're meeting but getting you know getting one
of those people to the public It's just strong.
I was one of those people. I can share my testimonial
if you want me to. Yeah. So I got back into the
hobby in summer of 2025. And you were one of
the first people I watched, Professor. And Alyx
was one of the first. I stumbled upon a lot of
the influencer stuff going on. I got back into
this hobby because, frankly, my mental health
was deteriorating. It was just work, come home.
I had no social life. I have bad social anxiety.
So the fact that I'm even doing this. is a victory
for me as far as i'm concerned you would have
asked me to do this a year ago i would have said
you're out of your fucking mind i'm not good
for you man good for you you know i'm not doing
this kind of crap but at the same time you gotta
step outside your comfort zone and so i mean
i got back into the hobby i had no idea we were
about to be in a boom period or all the craziness
that's about to go on i just wanted to do something
i did when i was a kid so you know i bought cards
you know started ripping and then realized it's
really freaking expensive And I have an addictive
personality. And if there's something I need
to chase or want to chase, I don't really give
a damn about money as long as I have it. And,
you know, who does care? Creditors. Your landlord,
your car payment, they care. They want that money.
So, you know, it didn't get out of hand to the
point to where I lost my car or my apartment
or anything, but I didn't want it to get there.
People go in debt. My brother went in a lot of
debt in sports gambling. And so I think it's
easy to find yourself. And thank you for sharing,
man. The more of that is just, it is powerful
and it wakes it up and it makes it real. And
right now, all the other videos, some of the
people that they have a problem with their partnership
is they're not making it very real. It's smoke
and mirrors, nothing real. And you know what?
I was the biggest skeptic. When he mentioned
Jeff Wilson's partnership, I said, dude, you
are going to get so much. from pretty much anyone
that's got, you know, any anti -establishment
thing going on because Jeff Wilson is the establishment.
He is the industry. He's the face of it. That's
also why we're doing this. If we get the Rip
responsibly thing on one of his breaks, which
generate $2 million a month. Which we do. They're
running across the breaks now. If we could save
one person who's like, oh man, I've spent too
much money. I might need to just get out of this
break or, you know, with Rip Hamilton Rips or
something like that. We've done our due diligence.
And that's really all it is. It's not like we're
trying to get in good with Jeff Wilson and hobnob
with him and be at a fanatics party or some shit.
We're just trying to help people out because
there's some people that get to a point to where
they're like, there's nowhere else to turn. They're
losing their children, you know, their wife,
their kids are leaving them. So Alyx and Charles,
it's really nice that you shared. And Alyx, my
question is, you're hearing these stories. I'm
sure far worse than what Charles said. My message
is I just think there's so much power in hearing
all that. These stories are very real. They're
very raw. There are people that come to us who,
again, are on the brink of just complete crisis.
They don't know how to proceed. They were struggling
in isolation for a very, very long time. What
Collectors MD serves is a safe space for them
to connect with other people who are also experiencing
very similar challenges. And that creates so
much, it just, it creates so much power and impact
when people are going through these tough times,
when they can lean on others. Like this is, it's
peer support. It's not leader support. It's not
me teaching a class or a course or a lecture
or anything like that. I'm just. I'm helping
navigating the conversations and the feedback.
But, you know, in this past this meeting tonight,
we had, I don't know, seven, eight different
people share openly, honestly, transparently,
vulnerably. And, you know, everybody was there.
Everybody was there for each other. And that's
what it's all about. No, they're all going through
the same thing. Charles, I have a question. If
people have a problem with with us providing
support. tools and resources for people who really
need help you know that's that's on their conscience
like it's all good it's all good like we know
also the other thing Alyx is there's so much
shady stuff right now and everything so it's
there or a lot of us already programmed to be
like you know yeah i could say one thing about
Alyx he wears his heart on his sleeve and i was
going through a rough time myself and i was one
of the biggest skeptic i remember seeing him
on uh It was Valor and Cage, and they were tearing
him up. They were. And I thought it was kind
of funny. And it seemed like a grip to me at
first. And he reached out, and he asked if I
wanted to come to a meeting. And I'm just like,
I don't fucking need that. This is bullshit.
Like, no, come on. It's fucking sports cars.
And then I'm like, all right, wait a second.
I actually have a fucking problem. And he was
very persistent with me. And it wasn't nothing
more than, hey, man, if you need something. call
me if you need something call me maybe i give
off that aura when i make a post excuse my language
but uh there was a another more recent time i
was pretty hard up and um not just in my own
mental uh state um not to talk too much but it
was i'm in a lot of group therapy right now myself
um and it was at a point where I'm not living
with my wife at the moment. I'm I'm estranged
from my children. Oh, man. No, no, no, no, no,
no, no. Wait, wait, wait. This is the come on.
You want to talk about what we talk about. But
this is the truth. I under my own under my own
judgment, I made that move. I felt like I needed
to get better, you know, and to hear when people
talk about their own hardships. It makes you
accept who you are. There's real truth in the
power of group. And the way Alyx holds these
meetings, it makes you feel welcomed. And if
you as a person can accept who you are, you can
accept your faults. And I think just by reading
the comments, there are, and I hate reading comments.
That's just, I figured out how to use this shit.
So I kind of went a little haywire. My comment
section is an interesting place. They have fun.
But the ignorance is kind of high with some of
these comments that I'm reading. Well, Rhonda's
got her job cut out for us. Let me just address
something real quick. I'm just going to address
this as a one blanket statement. And Alyx, I'm
sorry I had a ton. You guys need a fucking reality
check, okay? You want to come in here, you want
to troll, you want to be a keyboard warrior,
fine. If that entertains you, that's cool. Charles,
you don't care about Charles. People kill themselves
over this shit, dude. It's not funny. It's not
something to go and troll. Oh, look at me. You
buy views. Blah, blah, blah. You know what? I'm
sorry you're not smart enough to figure that
out. Yeah, if they were, they'd be doing it.
Charles, I give you a shout out because you stay
here and chat clearly. At this point, you've
put yourself out there. So good for you for still
coming out and saying what you're saying. Frank,
what's up? Charles, Charles, you're doing great
stuff right now. Rob, Alyx, stop reading it.
This is really good content. Let's get it on.
Fuck these guys. Okay. Just thank you. This is
really good stuff. Keep it, keep it going. Okay.
Keep it going right now. Thank you. Okay. We're
going to get some signs of encouragement. Charles,
thank you so much for getting on tonight. That
was really awesome. And come on, let's talk more
about the process right now. Yeah. Yeah. Well,
you want to talk about substance abuse? I've
went from everything from. Oh, you know what?
I'm not going to start incriminating myself,
but sports cards definitely. I can imagine. I
can take some guesses. I'm sure you can. But
when I was first hurt from work and I was making
silly sports card content, I was buying way above
my means. And my wife still doesn't know how
much I actually spent. But that dopamine that
you get when you see that card that you've been
waiting for in the mail or you go into a break
and you try to, you know, that that last second
swipe to. deal to snipe from somebody you know
that shit hits and then you know if you don't
have money in the bank and you go towards the
substances it's a real fucking teeter -totter
that you go on and to be able to go into a meeting
and express yourself to these people that that
are very like -minded or very in the same boat
as you it's fulfilling and you know what it fills
the void that you don't want to go and spend
and he actually has these chats that has gotten
me off eBay more. And right now, I'm collecting
dead baseball players. And I don't know. It's
weird, whatever. But my spending has significantly
dropped since being in these little chats that
he's got going on. So, yeah, Alyx, the best thing
that could have happened for you tonight was
getting Rob up here. I have a guy that had a
PSA card ruined and I was scheduled. We're going
to keep this going. I'll throw him on in a few
minutes. But I had a question for Charles. Charles,
how could someone mention it might have been
Ziggy, but someone mentioned like you lost it.
How long? How many months? I know you want it
forever. Did it take you to spend more than you
should have? Oh, the first month it tops Inception
24 come out. I'm a big Cubs fan. Pete Cor Armstrong
had a rookie patch auto. I had some influencers
telling me that's the big chase. You got to have
the rookie patch auto. You got to have Paul Skeens.
I'm like, I don't want Paul Skeens. I'm not a
Pirates fan. Well, Pete Cor Armstrong has one.
He's the other rookie for the Cubs. Oh, okay.
I can chase that. Not realizing, hey, I could
go on eBay and probably find that card for the
price of one of the boxes I bought. But it doesn't
change the dopamine rush of actually opening
the pack and maybe getting that card. And, oh,
my gosh, it's like opening up a frigging Christmas
present every time you open a box. It can get
really out of hand really frigging quick. And
where this hobby is so expensive now, it can
bankrupt people. But yet you have Chad. So just
in a month, you spent more than you should have.
Oh, yeah. I mean, let's just say I spent $900
on one lick. Those boxes of Inception are $300
plus a piece. $900 at once. The last time I spent
that was on rent. Okay. Anything crazy. You know,
I don't, my car payment is five 31 a month for
fuck's sake. That is crazy work, but you know
what? I was okay with it. Cause I work a really
good job. I can afford it. I'm not going to be
until you couldn't, you could afford it until
you couldn't though. Yeah. Going dead on this
stuff. It's like, yeah. Like how many credit
cards can I open up? How many? Time's going to
bubble money and hide it. How many times can
I lie about shit? I just want to double down,
Alyx, is that having Jay and Charles who are
willing to, not everyone will, not everyone's
in that space. It just is. It's so much bigger
than seeing your Instagram post. I'm not talking,
I'm not trying to be an ass, but it's so much
more powerful and so much bigger than. For me,
hearing these two wear their heart on their sleeve
and it's real and how quick it happened and they're
talking well of your program, that's how you
want to start pushing it, in my opinion. That's
in my opinion. 100%. I've said from day one,
this is a community effort. Collectors MD is all
of us. Rob was talking about the group chats.
We all are there for each other. We respect each
other. We enjoy each other's... you know granted
it's it's in a digital environment but we enjoy
each other's company and it's been just so refreshing
to you know meet these people who want to proceed
with the hobby it's not like we're anti -collecting
or anti -breaking we just do it smartly and responsibly
exactly and these people you know want to collect
with intention and that's what we're all about
uh real quick shout out uh Sports Man Dan he uh
he had me on his show he's the man hey now i
saw him on your little list there uh i really
appreciate you guys all calling in i hope i kind
of i want i had i think chapman is his name come
on because he has a story to tell on psa do you
guys want to stay on with that do you want to
you know go here i'll give you the option you're
more than welcome to stay i love having there's
a big psa story that's come out too like i think
teapot had a big video about eight literally
six of the top Grading companies gave six different
grades. Yeah, but they just repeat it. They repeat
that. That's what Rhonda was saying in her voicemail.
They just keep repeating that same story. I don't
know. Do you guys want to hang out? You've been
on 40 minutes. I'll leave it up to you. Yeah,
no, this was great, Jason. I'd love to hang out.
Yeah. I know you were like a little teetering
on whether this song, it worked out well, I think,
I think it worked out. Rob is, is a very good
for your brand. Yeah. He tells the, you know,
Rob is, is out there breaking down the industry.
That's a good thing. Yeah. He's the skeptic.
Yeah. And thank you for sharing, man. That's
thank you for having me. I hope we get to keep
chatting more. Yeah, definitely. We're in that
group chat with Dave. No doubt. Never. Not interesting
with Dave. No, never. It's awesome. All right,
Rob, Alyx, thank you both for calling in. It
sounds like you might. Yep. Yep. Have a great
night. You too, guys. Hey, that was awesome.
That was a great, and you know, the questions
were good and, you know, okay. And it took a
little bit, but by the time we got flowing, man,
that was really good.