WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.740 Bill, where do you stand and grow in a mustache? 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:05.900 Do you have the do you have the lippage for that? 00:00:06.740 --> 00:00:09.460 Do actually. And if you've ever met my dad, he's 00:00:09.460 --> 00:00:12.240 rocked one for years. Oh, I have. And it's beautiful. 00:00:12.339 --> 00:00:16.179 Yeah, it's pretty glorious. However, I grew facial 00:00:16.179 --> 00:00:18.980 hair like every male I think we knew during the 00:00:18.980 --> 00:00:22.980 pandemic and decided to shave it off. Was it 00:00:22.980 --> 00:00:27.820 spotty? It just wasn't a good beard. Mine? Yeah. 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:31.100 And good mine grows in kind of like a taco meat. 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:33.520 It's a little here a little there. It's not it's 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:35.799 a little scattered Yeah, I don't I don't get 00:00:35.799 --> 00:00:38.520 the best growth on the face here then somewhat 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:42.679 wiry and rough and I get very I'm more salt than 00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:45.420 I am pepper now that could be distinguished though. 00:00:45.420 --> 00:00:49.539 Mrs. Billy P from the D did not approve So really 00:00:49.539 --> 00:00:52.560 okay. Happy wife. Happy life. Jackie was out. 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:58.509 Yeah, okay You're listening to the litter box 00:00:58.509 --> 00:01:02.509 a Detroit Tigers podcast with your hosts Chet 00:01:02.509 --> 00:01:08.209 West and Bill Patterson So Detroit Tigers litter 00:01:08.209 --> 00:01:13.030 box listeners your co -hosts Chet and I Clearly 00:01:13.030 --> 00:01:16.090 can't grow great facial hair and we are a week 00:01:16.090 --> 00:01:18.469 into the spring training and there's not a whole 00:01:18.469 --> 00:01:21.569 lot to report from the Tigers Melton has an injury 00:01:21.569 --> 00:01:24.310 that's gonna seat him back for a little bit But 00:01:24.310 --> 00:01:26.310 we thought instead of talking about the lack 00:01:26.310 --> 00:01:28.930 of offense or, you know, trying to guess which 00:01:28.930 --> 00:01:31.030 pitchers are going to make this 40 man, we're 00:01:31.030 --> 00:01:34.129 going to talk about the all time best tiger mustaches 00:01:34.129 --> 00:01:37.250 and or facial hair. And since it's already been 00:01:37.250 --> 00:01:39.989 established that your co -hosts can't really 00:01:39.989 --> 00:01:42.950 do it well, we thought we'd bring in a loyal 00:01:42.950 --> 00:01:45.209 listener who grows a beard with the best of them. 00:01:45.310 --> 00:01:48.810 And that would be R .B. Seeger. Welcome, R .B. 00:01:49.409 --> 00:01:52.129 How are we doing, R .B.? Great, guys. Thanks. 00:01:52.459 --> 00:01:55.040 Long time listener, first time caller. Great 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:57.319 having you on the show and can't wait for you 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:00.760 to shell out your experience and your expertise 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:05.180 in the area of lip luggage. I hope we hear some 00:02:05.180 --> 00:02:07.939 interesting takes from you today. And this kind 00:02:07.939 --> 00:02:12.060 of idea that I had with the tiger's mustache 00:02:12.060 --> 00:02:15.849 off came from a friend of mine. Recent soccer 00:02:15.849 --> 00:02:17.930 trip and he's like you guys should do a top ten 00:02:17.930 --> 00:02:20.729 Tigers mustaches show or something And I was 00:02:20.729 --> 00:02:23.030 like, you know for you since you drove me around 00:02:23.030 --> 00:02:24.830 all weekend long. We're gonna get that done So 00:02:24.830 --> 00:02:28.169 Adam this one's for you buddy Reeve tell us about 00:02:28.169 --> 00:02:31.509 your facial hair experience. Well for those listening, 00:02:31.509 --> 00:02:34.729 I'm bald I can't grow it up top, but I can grow 00:02:34.729 --> 00:02:38.740 it on my face. And so Kind of as the saying goes 00:02:38.740 --> 00:02:41.520 a bald guy they can the beard is kind of the 00:02:41.520 --> 00:02:43.740 equivalent of a push -up bra So at least I've 00:02:43.740 --> 00:02:47.060 got something to show Wow, that's a I have never 00:02:47.060 --> 00:02:50.199 heard of it in those terms before but that is 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:52.780 Fantastic, and I will probably use that again 00:02:52.780 --> 00:02:54.860 in the future. Well, thank you very much for 00:02:54.860 --> 00:02:58.620 that Reeve So the format today Bill and I have 00:02:58.620 --> 00:03:01.979 put together two lists of mustachioed tigers 00:03:01.979 --> 00:03:05.550 from the past He's gonna throw one out. I'm gonna 00:03:05.550 --> 00:03:08.669 throw one out. You're gonna give your your assessment 00:03:08.669 --> 00:03:11.689 of these two gentlemen You can mention something 00:03:11.689 --> 00:03:14.289 about their playing days, but also give us some 00:03:14.289 --> 00:03:17.110 feedback Of course on their on their lip for 00:03:17.110 --> 00:03:20.849 and your thoughts. How does that sound? Sounds 00:03:20.849 --> 00:03:25.610 great. Excellent. Now we are not video so Descriptions 00:03:25.610 --> 00:03:28.250 are gonna be useful here I've got some thoughts 00:03:28.250 --> 00:03:30.590 on my mustaches that I've pulled out some of 00:03:30.590 --> 00:03:32.370 the facial hair that I pulled out on these guys 00:03:32.900 --> 00:03:35.120 Bill, I'm sure you'll have your own thoughts. 00:03:35.620 --> 00:03:37.939 Reeve, your final take and assessment over who 00:03:37.939 --> 00:03:39.699 wins the round. And if you could keep score, 00:03:39.740 --> 00:03:41.379 that'd be great if you got a pen and a pad of 00:03:41.379 --> 00:03:43.979 paper there. We're gonna see who picks the best 00:03:43.979 --> 00:03:46.719 mustaches. Mine are all from the offense. Bill's 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:49.340 are all from pitching. So it's gonna be kind 00:03:49.340 --> 00:03:51.199 of a pitching versus offense. We'll see which 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:54.020 guys wore it best. How's that sound? That sounds 00:03:54.020 --> 00:03:56.680 great. I apologize for Gary in the background. 00:03:56.900 --> 00:03:59.000 Yeah, no problem. Gary loves a good mustache 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:03.389 too. Harry's barking at delivery guys. I so one 00:04:03.389 --> 00:04:04.789 thing I didn't notice bill and I don't know if 00:04:04.789 --> 00:04:07.990 you saw this There weren't a lot of mustachioed 00:04:07.990 --> 00:04:11.490 men prior to like 1968 on the roster. No find 00:04:11.490 --> 00:04:14.969 any from back in the day. I Only go back as deep 00:04:14.969 --> 00:04:18.209 as one Willie Horton not to tip the hat too much 00:04:18.209 --> 00:04:20.589 But he's the first tiger that I could really 00:04:20.589 --> 00:04:23.610 find I couldn't barely find him in a mustache 00:04:23.610 --> 00:04:28.370 He did rock one Horton I looked, he's on the 00:04:28.370 --> 00:04:30.370 offense and I was looking at offensive guys and 00:04:30.370 --> 00:04:32.410 I could not find him in a decent mustache. It 00:04:32.410 --> 00:04:34.110 must have been like pencil thin or something. 00:04:34.389 --> 00:04:36.970 So then I had to go, you know, since my assignment 00:04:36.970 --> 00:04:40.910 was pitchers to arguably the greatest relief 00:04:40.910 --> 00:04:43.029 pitcher the Tigers have ever had. Is this your 00:04:43.029 --> 00:04:45.050 first guy? Is this who you're throwing out first? 00:04:45.170 --> 00:04:47.149 Yeah, I'm throwing him out first. Competition 00:04:47.149 --> 00:04:50.949 begins. John Hiller. So everybody Googled that 00:04:50.949 --> 00:04:54.810 and take a look at that. John Hiller. He looks... 00:04:54.410 --> 00:04:56.990 And not only is it a great stash, but it's almost 00:04:56.990 --> 00:05:00.569 Fu Manchu style. So he kind of looks like what 00:05:00.569 --> 00:05:03.709 I envision Kane from Kung Fu would have looked 00:05:03.709 --> 00:05:06.209 like had he been able to really rock the facial 00:05:06.209 --> 00:05:08.550 hair, which he couldn't. So he's got the lip 00:05:08.550 --> 00:05:10.970 burger up there, but then he's got the drapes 00:05:10.970 --> 00:05:13.170 hanging down the left and right side. Is that 00:05:13.170 --> 00:05:15.910 what I'm, is that kind of how I'm supposed to 00:05:15.910 --> 00:05:18.769 envision this? Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to throw 00:05:18.769 --> 00:05:22.550 a guy from a slightly later era here. Actually 00:05:22.550 --> 00:05:25.329 not, not. too much later than John, probably 00:05:25.329 --> 00:05:27.689 same era. He was a rookie around the same time. 00:05:28.250 --> 00:05:31.970 A one Mr. Lou Whitaker. Now, the way I would 00:05:31.970 --> 00:05:34.329 describe Lou's mustache, if you don't have a 00:05:34.329 --> 00:05:36.410 good high def picture, which they weren't terribly 00:05:36.410 --> 00:05:39.569 common back in the 70s, he had this thing groomed 00:05:39.569 --> 00:05:42.209 tight like a putting green, probably like an 00:05:42.209 --> 00:05:44.589 11 stimp on there or something. I mean, it is 00:05:44.589 --> 00:05:49.089 a beautiful, tightly groomed stash. And I'm going 00:05:49.089 --> 00:05:51.680 first with Lou. And this is kind of chronological, 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:54.720 but also not terribly chronological. Well, I'm 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:57.980 also doing mine kind of as an ode to the current 00:05:57.980 --> 00:06:00.839 Tigers. I mean, why not pitch with chaos? So 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:03.959 why not lead off with a relief pitcher? Good 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:07.279 idea. Good idea. Reeve, assessment of the two 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:09.930 mustaches mentioned. Yeah, well you mentioned 00:06:09.930 --> 00:06:12.970 Lou with an 11 on the stamp. Is that Puanah or 00:06:12.970 --> 00:06:16.370 is that bent? That's that's a little feather 00:06:16.370 --> 00:06:20.110 bed bent there. Okay. Okay. It's not Puanah. 00:06:20.269 --> 00:06:22.370 He said Puanah would be a little gnarly. I think 00:06:22.370 --> 00:06:26.649 I'm assuming I if I have it right Yeah, I gotta 00:06:26.649 --> 00:06:28.589 go based off the picture I'm looking at with 00:06:28.589 --> 00:06:31.949 John Hiller. Okay. He wins that contest. I understand. 00:06:32.050 --> 00:06:34.069 I had to throw one out there that was a little 00:06:34.069 --> 00:06:36.149 too tight and groomed first. I knew I was losing 00:06:36.149 --> 00:06:39.009 to Hiller regardless. Yeah, he's got the green 00:06:39.009 --> 00:06:41.649 and the fringe and the first cut. Yeah. Boy, 00:06:42.029 --> 00:06:45.509 like a fairway out there. Yeah, yeah. All right. 00:06:45.509 --> 00:06:48.829 Okay, I'm gonna go first on the second one. I'm 00:06:48.829 --> 00:06:52.470 gonna throw Tom Brookens at you, Bill. Yeah, 00:06:52.730 --> 00:06:56.379 have fun with this. Bushy? With also with shape 00:06:56.379 --> 00:06:58.860 around the mouth This could have been a good 00:06:58.860 --> 00:07:01.120 contender towards John Hiller Because he did 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:03.120 have a little overhang on the left and right 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:05.399 side there that he worked with for a while in 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:08.180 his later years He kind of touched those up and 00:07:08.180 --> 00:07:11.360 it's just a straight across Just a just a just 00:07:11.360 --> 00:07:14.180 a parking block there across the top of his upper 00:07:14.180 --> 00:07:17.560 lip. Who do you have? Well first and foremost 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:20.079 great choice and I remember him having a broom 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:23.949 handle that would almost hang over his lip into 00:07:23.949 --> 00:07:27.990 his mouth when he was playing, you know, strained 00:07:27.990 --> 00:07:32.050 a lot of coffee first or third for the Tigers. 00:07:32.490 --> 00:07:34.110 Well, going up against him, I'm going to go with 00:07:34.110 --> 00:07:36.829 the most recent addition to my team that has 00:07:36.829 --> 00:07:40.850 what I think is just a great look. And that is 00:07:40.850 --> 00:07:45.730 Sawyer Gibson Long. He's OK. He is a redhead 00:07:45.730 --> 00:07:51.029 or a ginge. And has it thin almost Jimmy Buffett 00:07:51.029 --> 00:07:54.529 pencil thin mustache Clark Gable style But then 00:07:54.529 --> 00:07:57.310 he's got a mullet going and he's got some stuff 00:07:57.310 --> 00:08:00.949 down below the handlebars on the chin So he's 00:08:00.949 --> 00:08:03.810 just got a lot going on and so that's why he's 00:08:03.810 --> 00:08:07.129 my number two Interesting. I you know, I didn't 00:08:07.129 --> 00:08:09.730 think I saw your gypsum long in that sense Reeve. 00:08:09.730 --> 00:08:11.899 What are your thoughts? He's good. He's got the 00:08:11.899 --> 00:08:15.899 flow, the hair too. But I'm more partial to Brookings. 00:08:16.139 --> 00:08:18.199 More of a fan favorite. That's a tough one to 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:22.160 turn down. Here's a question for you. Yeah. What 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:24.759 was in between Brookings and Travis Freiman at 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:27.720 third? Between Brookings and Freiman at third 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:30.819 would have been... You're killing me right now. 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:34.379 What years were those? Like late 80s? Yeah. Did 00:08:34.379 --> 00:08:36.720 we go through kind of a battery of guys in the 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:39.899 late 80s for the Tigers? Maybe. and not to get 00:08:39.899 --> 00:08:42.600 us off track. We'll stick with Brookins on the 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:45.320 head -to -head against Sawyer. Kind of want to 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:47.259 look this up, though. I still want to see who 00:08:47.259 --> 00:08:49.740 it is. I've got a couple names for you guys here. 00:08:50.139 --> 00:08:54.100 Brookins played from 79 to 88, but moonlighting 00:08:54.100 --> 00:08:56.980 or platooning with him was Hojo. Howard Johnson. 00:08:57.299 --> 00:08:59.500 That's... Hojo went earlier, though. Hojo went 00:08:59.500 --> 00:09:01.679 to the Mets earlier in the 80s, and then Brookins 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:04.019 kind of took over the role. He was out after 00:09:04.019 --> 00:09:06.980 the 84 World Series. Another mustache, though. 00:09:07.070 --> 00:09:09.470 He had a great mustache. I think it's required 00:09:09.470 --> 00:09:11.289 to play third base. You had to have a mustache 00:09:11.289 --> 00:09:13.509 in the 80s. Well, hold on. That's also another. 00:09:14.149 --> 00:09:16.350 So why this next gentleman who I don't ever remember 00:09:16.350 --> 00:09:19.830 having facial hair was only there for four seasons. 00:09:19.889 --> 00:09:23.210 And that would be one Marty Castillo. That's 00:09:23.210 --> 00:09:26.009 some. Yeah, that that might have been the guy 00:09:26.009 --> 00:09:28.250 that filled in over there. I'm Marty Castillo 00:09:28.250 --> 00:09:31.149 type. I have a feeling we bounced around a lot 00:09:31.149 --> 00:09:33.350 in those years as far as our third baseman went. 00:09:33.710 --> 00:09:37.480 I don't remember a guy sticking there. for very 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:40.539 long. Wasn't Tory Lovolo a third baseman at one 00:09:40.539 --> 00:09:44.320 point in time in the late 80s, early 90s? I got 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:46.100 to bring you guys back to why we're here. We're 00:09:46.100 --> 00:09:50.100 getting off track. Yeah, anyhow. OK, Bill, your 00:09:50.100 --> 00:09:54.480 third sampling. Go with only my favorite T -shirt 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:56.720 of all time. And my brother -in -law, Brett, 00:09:56.879 --> 00:09:59.679 and I saw it outside of Comerica Park. And it 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:02.980 was only the Lord saves more than Todd Jones. 00:10:03.610 --> 00:10:06.889 when Todd Jones was a closer. Oh, so subsequently 00:10:06.889 --> 00:10:09.809 we made our own t -shirts that said only the 00:10:09.809 --> 00:10:12.210 Lord saves more than Todd Jones with the old 00:10:12.210 --> 00:10:16.129 English D on the front. And if you look at this, 00:10:16.529 --> 00:10:19.889 it's bushy, it's big, it's bold, it's tobacco 00:10:19.889 --> 00:10:24.029 stained, it's coffee stained. It is glorious 00:10:24.029 --> 00:10:27.509 in every weird, bad way possible. I feel like 00:10:27.509 --> 00:10:30.070 I got to sacrifice somebody again because Todd 00:10:30.070 --> 00:10:32.889 Jones is going to be really tough to beat. I'm 00:10:32.889 --> 00:10:36.769 going to fling Chet Lemon at you. Another all 00:10:36.769 --> 00:10:41.429 -business tight and structured stash. At times, 00:10:41.850 --> 00:10:44.590 he would grow it out somewhat bushy. In his earlier 00:10:44.590 --> 00:10:47.210 years, it was very tight. But as he got a little 00:10:47.210 --> 00:10:49.190 older, it kind of bushed up a little bit on him. 00:10:49.309 --> 00:10:52.190 But I know that's a loser. There's no way that 00:10:52.190 --> 00:10:56.250 beats Todd Jones. Reeve, go ahead. Send me out 00:10:56.250 --> 00:10:58.309 to pasture. I don't like putting the name Chet 00:10:58.309 --> 00:11:00.649 with loser, so don't take it that way. I appreciate 00:11:00.649 --> 00:11:04.049 that. I appreciate that. But it's Todd Jones 00:11:04.049 --> 00:11:06.750 in a yeah, that's a walk. I mean unless you got 00:11:06.750 --> 00:11:09.129 like a hot rod back on your roster You can go 00:11:09.129 --> 00:11:11.230 up against with them. There's no way I've got 00:11:11.230 --> 00:11:13.110 a couple guys that could have but I think I would 00:11:13.110 --> 00:11:15.909 have lost one of my sure things To him. That's 00:11:15.909 --> 00:11:18.629 a that's a top dog there. All right, I'll go 00:11:18.629 --> 00:11:21.970 next. This is my third offering I'm gonna throw 00:11:21.970 --> 00:11:28.570 Lance Parrish at you bill. Yeah wiry wiry Mustache, 00:11:28.690 --> 00:11:32.610 but full and just at times a complete mess up 00:11:32.610 --> 00:11:36.210 there a lighter shade Definitely a lighter shade 00:11:36.210 --> 00:11:38.710 as she was almost like a not quite a strawberry 00:11:38.710 --> 00:11:40.950 blonde But a very light brown hair gentleman, 00:11:40.950 --> 00:11:43.350 and so I'm gonna throw Lance Parrish the catcher 00:11:43.350 --> 00:11:46.809 at you And you know he starts off he starts off 00:11:46.809 --> 00:11:49.289 a lot of the good catcher mustache as we've seen 00:11:49.289 --> 00:11:52.169 over the years You got another one coming later 00:11:52.169 --> 00:11:54.230 in the show. I might try to win with it. Might 00:11:54.230 --> 00:11:56.710 be my clean up. But Lance Parrish was the first 00:11:56.710 --> 00:11:58.570 of the catchers I found. I thought Bill Freehand 00:11:58.570 --> 00:12:00.429 might have had one. Didn't have one. Who do you 00:12:00.429 --> 00:12:02.429 have? He was clean shaven. Yeah, he was very 00:12:02.429 --> 00:12:06.250 clean shaven. Even in the 70s. I'm going to stay 00:12:06.250 --> 00:12:08.690 with one of his teammates and one that we listen 00:12:08.690 --> 00:12:11.730 to often, who is Dan Dickerson's partner in the 00:12:11.730 --> 00:12:15.409 box. One Peaches, Dan Petrie. A nice mustache. 00:12:15.850 --> 00:12:19.519 A nice mustache. manicured pretty well, not overly 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:24.279 bushy, not overly wiry, just solid and respectful. 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:27.480 Is that when you think he takes a comb to it? 00:12:27.980 --> 00:12:30.220 Absolutely. Yeah, that's a brush out mustache 00:12:30.220 --> 00:12:33.559 right there. Reeve, thoughts? Dan Petrie, nice 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:36.000 guy. I've met him before. Nice. I've seen it 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:38.360 in person, solid mustache, but I got to go with 00:12:38.360 --> 00:12:41.840 the big wheel. Yeah, yeah. I got to go with Parrish. 00:12:42.419 --> 00:12:44.799 The big wheel had some tread on the tire, we'll 00:12:44.799 --> 00:12:48.809 say. RB has an affinity for catchers, too. Yeah, 00:12:48.809 --> 00:12:51.169 I didn't know that. Good. All right. I'm up two 00:12:51.169 --> 00:12:53.909 to one. Bill, right? Is that true? No, three 00:12:53.909 --> 00:12:56.909 to two to two. We're tied. Is it two to two? 00:12:57.470 --> 00:12:59.389 Is that all we've done so far? Yeah, two to two. 00:12:59.950 --> 00:13:03.409 OK. Yep. Keeping it moving. I am going to go 00:13:03.409 --> 00:13:07.950 with senior smoke. Aurelio Lopez. Gosh, we're 00:13:07.950 --> 00:13:10.830 going south of the border for this one. And here 00:13:10.830 --> 00:13:13.700 we go. This is facial hair, but none of it's 00:13:13.700 --> 00:13:17.460 good. This is as scratchy and as bad as you're 00:13:17.460 --> 00:13:21.000 ever gonna see. It's all over the place. There's 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:23.919 hairs going east, west, north, south. It's ugly. 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:27.879 Unruly. Unruly. It's not good, but it deserves 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:30.500 to be on this list because he was the setup man 00:13:30.500 --> 00:13:33.340 for the 84 Tigers. All right, I'm gonna give 00:13:33.340 --> 00:13:37.759 you Rob Deer. Oof. Probably, probably more along 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:41.080 the lines of a come out mustache like Dan Petrie. 00:13:41.259 --> 00:13:43.679 He definitely did some grooming to this thing. 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:47.320 He was business like for most of his career with 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:49.379 that thing. He was the all or nothing hitter 00:13:49.379 --> 00:13:51.080 too. So he's kind of one of those guys. He was 00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:53.379 an early, I think he kind of faded out of baseball 00:13:53.379 --> 00:13:56.299 in his years with the Tigers. Potentially the 00:13:56.299 --> 00:13:59.320 only guy to have more home runs than Arbia. That's, 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:02.740 that is very, is definitely more strikeouts than. 00:14:03.809 --> 00:14:08.450 Anything else? Good call. Not mathematically 00:14:08.450 --> 00:14:12.289 possible, but good call. Who do you like, Arby? 00:14:12.370 --> 00:14:14.330 Who do you like in the mustache battle there? 00:14:15.210 --> 00:14:19.450 I'll give it to Mr. Lopez. I would, too. That's 00:14:19.450 --> 00:14:22.289 a tough one to lose, but I'll give you Rob Deer. 00:14:22.450 --> 00:14:25.629 I'm going to sacrifice him on Aurelio. All right, 00:14:25.690 --> 00:14:28.610 you're up next, Chet. Who are you bringing to 00:14:28.610 --> 00:14:32.230 the diamond? This one... So for some odd reason, 00:14:32.549 --> 00:14:35.129 mustaches tend to remind me of sausage. And I 00:14:35.129 --> 00:14:37.309 don't know why encased meats. I'm not sure why. 00:14:37.570 --> 00:14:41.190 I think it's the super fan skit from SNL back 00:14:41.190 --> 00:14:45.429 in the day. But this guy, Champ Summers, had 00:14:45.429 --> 00:14:49.049 a thick mustache. And this thing was a good inch 00:14:49.049 --> 00:14:51.980 off his face. Looked like a bratwurst went up 00:14:51.980 --> 00:14:55.000 and just died on his upper lip. I love champ 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:57.600 summer's mustache wasn't in wasn't on the squad 00:14:57.600 --> 00:15:00.500 for a terribly long time. But an early 80s tiger 00:15:00.500 --> 00:15:02.980 fan remembers champ summers pretty well. Who 00:15:02.980 --> 00:15:05.759 do you have? I'm going to bring in he wasn't 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:08.100 a tiger for long and they certainly weren't good 00:15:08.100 --> 00:15:10.899 when he was there. They did bring him back for 00:15:10.899 --> 00:15:13.460 a cup of coffee, but he didn't make the squad 00:15:13.460 --> 00:15:16.980 and then ended up pitching for the Reds. Andrew 00:15:16.980 --> 00:15:21.320 Chaffin. He literally has a blonde, curly fro 00:15:21.320 --> 00:15:25.320 on his head that just extends down his cheeks 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:29.779 and sideburn area and fills in so beautifully, 00:15:30.179 --> 00:15:33.419 both beneath his lower lip and above his upper 00:15:33.419 --> 00:15:37.600 lip. He is truly a gifted, follicle person. Just 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:40.539 great head of hair, great stache. Geez, I think 00:15:40.539 --> 00:15:43.669 I'm going down by two. Reeve, thoughts? Yeah, 00:15:44.269 --> 00:15:46.110 so nothing against champ summers and I didn't 00:15:46.110 --> 00:15:49.049 I had to look him up good good Nothing against 00:15:49.049 --> 00:15:50.850 them never heard of them, but I had to look them 00:15:50.850 --> 00:15:55.929 up And a great mustache, but yeah Chafin wins 00:15:55.929 --> 00:15:59.389 that one. Yeah, that's I thought I wish he hung 00:15:59.389 --> 00:16:02.330 around or was able to hang around able to hang 00:16:02.330 --> 00:16:05.129 around maybe yeah more more so I do have a quick 00:16:05.129 --> 00:16:08.169 question though. Yes, because a mustache can 00:16:08.169 --> 00:16:10.529 be a part of a beard now Could the person have 00:16:10.529 --> 00:16:16.539 a beard? So here's the thing, I think it depends 00:16:16.539 --> 00:16:21.799 on how it accentuates the mustache. Now you have 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:24.159 a full beard right now, so you've got a full 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:26.720 deal going on. It doesn't really accentuate the 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:29.419 mustache as much. Do you remember Eddie Murray 00:16:29.419 --> 00:16:32.559 from the early 80s, late 70s, Eddie Murray, the 00:16:32.559 --> 00:16:36.279 Orioles? Not the kicker. He had the, not the 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:39.059 kicker, not the kicker, the baseball player. 00:16:39.419 --> 00:16:43.340 He had the Lamb chops that came down and stopped 00:16:43.340 --> 00:16:46.159 and then went up into a mustache over the top 00:16:46.159 --> 00:16:49.320 but shaved the chin. So it's kind of like a beard 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:52.919 that went into a mustache with no chin fur. That 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.419 really accentuated the mustache. To me, that's 00:16:56.419 --> 00:16:58.320 what I would look for if I was going after a 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:00.840 bearded mustache. That's a much better look than 00:17:00.840 --> 00:17:02.980 someone that has a beard but does not have the 00:17:02.980 --> 00:17:06.019 mustache. Would you do that? Could you at some 00:17:06.019 --> 00:17:09.559 point shave just the chin area and give us that 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:14.140 connector? Give us that jowl up and over the 00:17:14.140 --> 00:17:18.039 lip and then back down other jowl up to the sideburns. 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:20.119 Could you do that? Yeah, I can't do it right 00:17:20.119 --> 00:17:23.240 now. But at some point, and we'll post it on 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:27.000 our social media. Okay. All right. So where are 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:29.519 we at? I've lost track here. What have we drifted 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:32.559 off to? Chafin? I've won four. I think you've 00:17:32.559 --> 00:17:35.460 won four. I have two. Four to three. Four to 00:17:35.460 --> 00:17:37.460 two. Four to two. Four to two. But am I up or 00:17:37.460 --> 00:17:39.359 are you up? I gave Champ Summers is the last 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:41.259 one, I believe. Yeah, and he was a sacrificial 00:17:41.259 --> 00:17:43.500 lamb to Andrew Chafin. Andrew Chafin you just 00:17:43.500 --> 00:17:45.759 countered with brilliantly. Okay, you're up. 00:17:45.779 --> 00:17:48.779 You're first. I'm first? Okay. Yeah. I'm gonna 00:17:48.779 --> 00:17:51.619 go with... Probably one of my favorite if not 00:17:51.619 --> 00:17:54.240 favorite pictures of the Tigers of all time and 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:57.839 that was black Jack Morris Oh, I know he had 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:01.680 great success above or you know across the border 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:04.240 in Toronto and in your neck of the woods Chet 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:07.619 for the twins where he was from His mustache 00:18:07.619 --> 00:18:10.059 let's describe it for someone that didn't appear 00:18:10.059 --> 00:18:13.799 to be a ginger. It is very gingery and it grayed 00:18:13.789 --> 00:18:18.369 And it looks like two huge fuzzy caterpillars 00:18:18.369 --> 00:18:21.710 met on either side beneath his nose and just 00:18:21.710 --> 00:18:24.970 kind of came together beneath his nose. It was 00:18:24.970 --> 00:18:28.529 a plow. It was a full plow. This is getting so 00:18:28.529 --> 00:18:31.430 difficult because I'm starting to realize pictures 00:18:31.430 --> 00:18:34.769 may be where the talent lies on the mustachioed 00:18:34.769 --> 00:18:38.109 men in baseball. I'm going to throw Riley Green 00:18:38.109 --> 00:18:42.250 at you. Yeah. Riley Green's temporary stash. 00:18:42.809 --> 00:18:46.029 Like a caterpillar resting up there was incredible 00:18:46.029 --> 00:18:49.210 and it really popped I mean the color and everything 00:18:49.210 --> 00:18:51.450 just it's like he used hair club for men on it 00:18:51.450 --> 00:18:54.170 to make it pop more Than it normally would it 00:18:54.170 --> 00:18:56.809 was so dark. So I'm gonna throw Riley green out 00:18:56.809 --> 00:18:59.049 there I know it was temporary, but the bats did 00:18:59.049 --> 00:19:02.130 heat up after he did it last season And so I 00:19:02.130 --> 00:19:05.849 give a little tribute to a rally cry there We've 00:19:05.849 --> 00:19:08.710 yeah, and it was fantastic. I wish Riley would 00:19:08.710 --> 00:19:12.329 wear that more often But it was temporary, and 00:19:12.329 --> 00:19:15.210 you've got to give it to Blackjack. I'm in deep 00:19:15.210 --> 00:19:16.910 trouble with the hitters right now. I have a 00:19:16.910 --> 00:19:18.809 feeling I'm down five, two, and we only have 00:19:18.809 --> 00:19:20.990 three stashes left. The best I can hope for is 00:19:20.990 --> 00:19:24.730 a tie at this point, I believe. Is that correct? 00:19:25.329 --> 00:19:28.430 Yeah, I think you probably you've got one. You've 00:19:28.430 --> 00:19:31.069 got one winner. I've got one winner. I got one 00:19:31.069 --> 00:19:33.529 winner. I got a sneaky one coming up. And then 00:19:33.529 --> 00:19:36.549 it's just a dice roll who he can throw out there. 00:19:36.809 --> 00:19:41.529 I'm not. Not sure that I can win at this juncture, 00:19:42.069 --> 00:19:45.029 but I'm going to give it a shot here. I'm first 00:19:45.029 --> 00:19:48.009 right on this next round. Yes, I am throwing 00:19:48.009 --> 00:19:52.089 Johnny walk and fuss at you. Solid. I'm going 00:19:52.089 --> 00:19:54.650 to counter with one of his teammates. I'll be 00:19:54.650 --> 00:19:58.349 a brief period and that would be. Willie Guillermo 00:19:58.349 --> 00:20:02.609 Hernandez, your 1984 Roll Aids Relief Picture 00:20:02.609 --> 00:20:05.950 of the Year and ALMVP. When I think of the guys 00:20:05.950 --> 00:20:09.289 south of the border, not as wild as Aurelio Lopez's 00:20:09.289 --> 00:20:12.150 mustache. Much more businesslike. Yeah, more 00:20:12.150 --> 00:20:16.559 manicured. Yes, yes. Reeve, thoughts? Yeah, Johnny 00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:19.339 Walkenfuss against Willie Hernandez and feel 00:20:19.339 --> 00:20:22.180 free to pull up some images and judge for yourself 00:20:22.180 --> 00:20:25.519 Yeah, I am just to keep things interesting and 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:28.359 rolling. We'll give it to the Walkenfuss I feel 00:20:28.359 --> 00:20:30.980 like the Walkenfuss last name goes with a mustache 00:20:30.980 --> 00:20:34.740 for some reason and Yeah, honey, and he was a 00:20:34.740 --> 00:20:37.740 catcher and he was a catcher So I get that, too. 00:20:37.940 --> 00:20:39.859 Like Willie, Willie was a great pitcher, but 00:20:39.859 --> 00:20:42.079 his mustache was fairly pedestrian in a lot of 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:44.019 ways. But I mean, really and truly, it should 00:20:44.019 --> 00:20:47.880 be Guillermo Hernandez. You think? Yeah, but 00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:50.140 we're giving it to Johnny Walkenfuss. You're 00:20:50.140 --> 00:20:51.220 going to give me the point anyways on Walkenfuss 00:20:51.220 --> 00:20:54.880 for that? To make it five, five, three? Five, 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:57.720 three. Was it five, three? Yeah. Ugh. I got to 00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:00.079 keep myself in this thing somehow. All right. 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:03.839 Bill, you're up. We got two left. This is the 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:06.539 worst mustache of all time, so this is pretty 00:21:06.539 --> 00:21:09.299 much a gimme for ya. And he grew one, but he 00:21:09.299 --> 00:21:12.980 was blonde and curly, and caught the nation by 00:21:12.980 --> 00:21:16.539 storm. But he grew a mustache that was so faint 00:21:16.539 --> 00:21:18.599 that you could barely tell that it was on his 00:21:18.599 --> 00:21:20.680 lip unless it was a close -up where you met him 00:21:20.680 --> 00:21:25.089 in person. Mark the bird fidry. You know, I looked 00:21:25.089 --> 00:21:26.869 at Fidrick when we were doing this and I was 00:21:26.869 --> 00:21:29.170 like, does he have a mustache? Could he throw 00:21:29.170 --> 00:21:31.190 Fidrick? I'll tell you, I'm going to throw you. 00:21:31.329 --> 00:21:33.490 Well, wait, can I give a visual real quick? Yeah, 00:21:33.829 --> 00:21:37.170 do it. Give us the visual. Larry Bird's mustache 00:21:37.170 --> 00:21:42.529 for our listeners, but even thinner, finer follicles 00:21:42.529 --> 00:21:46.609 and lighter. So barely noticeable. Like a Rick 00:21:46.609 --> 00:21:50.430 Smith's or yes shrimp. Yes an Indiana mustache, 00:21:50.430 --> 00:21:52.329 even though he was from Massachusetts Indiana 00:21:52.329 --> 00:21:58.210 mustache. That's fabulous a blonde Okay, I'll 00:21:58.210 --> 00:22:00.789 tell you what I gotta stay in this thing and 00:22:00.789 --> 00:22:02.529 the only way I'm gonna be able to do is if I 00:22:02.529 --> 00:22:05.230 throw Jake Rogers at it and take this point Oh 00:22:05.230 --> 00:22:08.769 and get myself to five four Reef, where do you 00:22:08.769 --> 00:22:12.250 stand on that comparison? Yes, that's a gimme 00:22:12.250 --> 00:22:17.279 right? RIP the Birdman And there's so many stories 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:20.539 there and even chat back into different work 00:22:20.539 --> 00:22:23.579 days on what he went on to do after pitching 00:22:23.579 --> 00:22:27.839 a huge fan of the bird. He had a magical season, 00:22:28.380 --> 00:22:31.619 but there's you're not meeting. There's no way 00:22:31.619 --> 00:22:35.059 the Indiana mustache is going to beat the walrus. 00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:38.359 Jake Rogers takes all comers. That was my that 00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:41.380 was my trump card right there. I played it. So 00:22:41.380 --> 00:22:44.519 we're at five four at this juncture. We're going 00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:48.700 to our last stash here. OK, I'm going to go first. 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:51.740 I'm down to one guy basically, and that's Larry 00:22:51.740 --> 00:22:56.019 Herndon, the Brillo pad, if you will. And it's 00:22:56.019 --> 00:22:59.740 it's thick. It's tight. It's like it's literally 00:22:59.740 --> 00:23:03.140 a Brillo pad sitting on top of his lip. I loved 00:23:03.140 --> 00:23:05.359 Larry Herndon. Not everybody loved Larry Herndon. 00:23:05.380 --> 00:23:08.539 I loved Larry Herndon back in the day. I would 00:23:08.539 --> 00:23:11.440 have used him as maybe the setup guy, but Bill 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:15.420 just had too much firepower today. Bill how do 00:23:15.420 --> 00:23:18.039 you counter? I'm going off the reservation a 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:21.460 little bit He's an honorary tiger and so important 00:23:21.460 --> 00:23:24.640 in our history last year He joined the neti and 00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:27.000 dirks in the broadcasting booth and said that 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:30.900 his role is Magnum PI Opened up a ton of doors 00:23:30.900 --> 00:23:32.759 because it was one of the first television shows 00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:35.680 that like employed Vietnam vets, which Wouldn't 00:23:35.680 --> 00:23:37.740 have recognized or realized because I was too 00:23:37.740 --> 00:23:40.240 young and you were too young, but I'm gonna go 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:44.140 honorary tiger fan Tom Selleck Magnum No, my 00:23:44.140 --> 00:23:46.960 gosh. I is not a pitcher. You're pulling out 00:23:46.960 --> 00:23:49.660 a guy's not even a pitcher You're going into 00:23:49.660 --> 00:23:51.539 the beyond the bullpen. You're pulling people 00:23:51.539 --> 00:23:53.759 out of the stands. All right, that's a good pull. 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:55.920 That's a good pull It's a great state and he 00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:57.900 had to be called out. He had to be called out 00:23:57.900 --> 00:24:02.940 somehow if there were GQ or Mount Rushmore of 00:24:02.940 --> 00:24:05.640 stashes, Tom Selleck would have to be on it. 00:24:05.859 --> 00:24:08.640 Nobody can do a head turn to the camera in the 00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:10.660 middle of the show and give a look. And then 00:24:10.660 --> 00:24:13.720 that stash just waves right around. And with 00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:16.400 the hat, the tiger hat, they blended together 00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:19.940 really well. OK, I get it. I think I lost. I 00:24:19.940 --> 00:24:25.180 don't think. Yeah, you lost. Yeah. So I gave 00:24:25.180 --> 00:24:27.799 you walking foot. You did. Johnny walking foot. 00:24:27.980 --> 00:24:33.250 There were no more gimmies. Now, Brookens, Parrish, 00:24:33.329 --> 00:24:36.450 and Rogers are no doubters, but I think Billy 00:24:36.450 --> 00:24:38.990 P. had a little bit more consistent. The hitters 00:24:38.990 --> 00:24:41.569 just didn't have the character in the stash that 00:24:41.569 --> 00:24:44.410 the pitchers had. Now, if you don't mind, just 00:24:44.410 --> 00:24:46.690 quickly, and you can comment afterwards. I've 00:24:46.690 --> 00:24:49.529 got a few here that were not mentioned. I was 00:24:49.529 --> 00:24:52.799 about to ask you, as somebody might... As a third 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:57.400 party might do an error review or a recount of 00:24:57.400 --> 00:24:59.319 what we did, did we miss anything? Did we miss 00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:02.099 anyone? Well, I'm surprised no one brought up 00:25:02.099 --> 00:25:04.740 Jimmy Leland. Not a pitcher, not a hitter. But 00:25:04.740 --> 00:25:07.019 I mean, if I pulled a page out of Bill's book, 00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:09.579 that would have been the one to throw out there 00:25:09.579 --> 00:25:13.000 against Magnum P .I. there, Tom Selleck. Man, 00:25:13.299 --> 00:25:15.980 really missed on that. Really missed that. And 00:25:15.980 --> 00:25:18.680 now some others that were maybe not there that 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:23.200 long, Pete and Cavalier, Matt Stairs. Matt Stairs. 00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:27.359 Had a great one. Bravo, Reeve. Dave Bergman. 00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:29.900 Dave Bergman had a nice mustache. Dave Bergman 00:25:29.900 --> 00:25:32.819 did have a nice mustache. Unfortunately, he was 00:25:32.819 --> 00:25:35.279 in an era when they all looked the same to a 00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:37.599 degree or another. And I had like three guys 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:39.680 lined up and they were all tight and I had to 00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:43.119 pick somebody. Tony Phillips had a good mustache. 00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:45.680 Tony Phillips would have been a good one, yep. 00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:48.539 I think the Mad Dog. Didn't Madlock have one 00:25:48.539 --> 00:25:51.299 too? Bill Madlock. How many years did he play 00:25:51.299 --> 00:25:53.720 for the Tigers? Like one? Was it his waning? 00:25:53.859 --> 00:25:56.019 That was like it, right? But he was glorious 00:25:56.019 --> 00:25:58.980 at the base. He was glorious. And the Tigers 00:25:58.980 --> 00:26:01.119 didn't have a lot to show at that time, so he 00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:04.259 was... Was that in the Bobby Higginson day, like 00:26:04.259 --> 00:26:06.960 early 90s when Madlock was wrapping things up, 00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:09.660 or was that late 80s? I think late 80s. Late 00:26:09.660 --> 00:26:12.000 80s, I think. That was more like the Matt Nokes 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:16.039 era catcher. Mike Heath, Matt Nokes. Mike Heath, 00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:19.079 Matt Nokes era, yeah. Anybody else? No, you know 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:20.759 what? We might have had... Who was the guy that 00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:24.980 came from Texas? Terry. Terry. Terry. Not Terry. 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:26.920 Who was the catcher that came over? He might 00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:30.500 have been a DH. I think he's a DH. I think you're 00:26:30.500 --> 00:26:33.039 thinking... Not Pete and Kavelia, is it? No, 00:26:33.099 --> 00:26:36.900 not Pete and Kavelia. No. Anyhow. Ah, never mind. 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:39.240 Is that... Those are all the extra mustaches 00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:43.579 you've got. Yeah, Cecil. Those were good. I had 00:26:43.579 --> 00:26:46.779 him on my list, but I didn't think he was nearly 00:26:46.779 --> 00:26:48.740 strong enough after I lost a couple. I could 00:26:48.740 --> 00:26:51.299 not throw him out there. If I had to go to an 00:26:51.299 --> 00:26:52.960 extra round, I would have had to throw Cecil 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:54.940 out there. Probably would have been a loss. I 00:26:54.940 --> 00:26:56.380 think there's probably some others, but I missed 00:26:56.380 --> 00:26:58.160 a few there. I missed Matt Stairs. I probably 00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:00.980 could have won a round with him. I missed. I 00:27:00.980 --> 00:27:03.339 missed. Who was the big one? Well, Leland. If 00:27:03.339 --> 00:27:05.319 I'd known that I could pull a non -hitter out 00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:08.140 of my back pocket and use that, that would have 00:27:08.140 --> 00:27:10.759 probably been... and a great, a great competitor 00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:14.099 to Mr. Selleck. At any rate, well, Bill, that 00:27:14.099 --> 00:27:16.759 was fun. Reed, thank you for judging. Thank you, 00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:19.240 Reeve, so appreciated. Appreciate your judging. 00:27:19.819 --> 00:27:21.599 Mickey, Mickey Tattleton, that's who I was thinking 00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:22.920 of. Mickey, he's still going. He's going to sit 00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:25.319 here all night thinking of mustachioed tigers. 00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:27.160 He didn't have a mustache. You know who else 00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:30.140 had a mustache? This guy had a mustache. I'm 00:27:30.140 --> 00:27:31.819 going to get texts all night on this right now. 00:27:31.940 --> 00:27:34.970 He wanted to have one. Man. This is what happens 00:27:34.970 --> 00:27:37.170 when you, you know, I crammed for the test and 00:27:37.170 --> 00:27:39.130 this is what happens. Well, good victory, Bill. 00:27:39.250 --> 00:27:42.109 I think we proved pitchers in Tiger lore probably 00:27:42.109 --> 00:27:44.210 have a little stronger mustache game than hitters. 00:27:44.410 --> 00:27:46.789 What do we want to say to the folks? RB Seeger, 00:27:46.789 --> 00:27:49.789 you want to, you want to sign us off? This was 00:27:49.789 --> 00:27:52.990 a pleasure. Most fun I've had all day. Good. 00:27:54.910 --> 00:27:57.950 It's four o 'clock on a Friday. So very good. 00:27:58.130 --> 00:28:00.009 All right, folks. Thanks for listening. We tried 00:28:00.009 --> 00:28:02.569 to have a little fun. We'll get back with some 00:28:02.569 --> 00:28:06.009 spring training news. Bless you, boys. Thank 00:28:06.009 --> 00:28:22.680 you. Bless you, boys. Go Tigers. If you're enjoying 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:25.740 the show, be sure to follow or subscribe on Spotify, 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:29.359 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 00:28:29.900 --> 00:28:32.220 And hey, if you got a minute, leave us a quick 00:28:32.220 --> 00:28:35.440 review. Till next time, Go Tigers!