WEBVTT 00:00:02.589 --> 00:00:05.469 You're listening to the litter box a Detroit 00:00:05.469 --> 00:00:09.570 Tigers podcast with your hosts Chet West and 00:00:09.570 --> 00:00:20.170 Bill Patterson Here's what's on deck for this 00:00:20.170 --> 00:00:23.190 episode Torres seems and I'm asking you this 00:00:23.190 --> 00:00:25.870 it seems like he feels like he's done enough 00:00:25.870 --> 00:00:28.949 to get the next contract and bullpen guys Here 00:00:28.949 --> 00:00:30.530 today, gone tomorrow. I mean, you don't know 00:00:30.530 --> 00:00:32.270 what you're getting. Because he's back at Irma's 00:00:32.270 --> 00:00:34.109 Place, one of the greatest restaurants in the 00:00:34.109 --> 00:00:36.270 United States. Maybe the change of scenery isn't 00:00:36.270 --> 00:00:42.530 what Chris Paddock needed. Welcome back to the 00:00:42.530 --> 00:00:46.130 Lirbox, the Detroit Tigers podcast. On this mic, 00:00:46.270 --> 00:00:48.950 I am Chet. On the other mic, I have Bill, your 00:00:48.950 --> 00:00:52.590 co -hosts. Bill, I am happy with getting three 00:00:52.590 --> 00:00:55.329 out of four. Game four isn't over yet with the 00:00:55.329 --> 00:01:01.030 twins, but I'm pretty sure that I feel okay going 00:01:01.030 --> 00:01:03.609 on the road in a four -game set, grabbing three 00:01:03.609 --> 00:01:06.549 wins. It wasn't always pretty. Win number three, 00:01:06.829 --> 00:01:08.909 yesterday's game in game three was like watching 00:01:08.909 --> 00:01:11.989 your drunk friend traverse the general admission 00:01:11.989 --> 00:01:17.090 at an outdoor concert or something. It was ugly. 00:01:17.750 --> 00:01:19.409 Falling all over the place yesterday, but we 00:01:19.409 --> 00:01:20.849 ended up getting the win, which is what good 00:01:20.849 --> 00:01:24.489 teams do against bad teams. Today, not so great. 00:01:24.810 --> 00:01:27.069 First two games, you know, we had a great game. 00:01:27.069 --> 00:01:29.790 We had a close one that went long What are your 00:01:29.790 --> 00:01:33.189 general thoughts at this point eyeballing an 00:01:33.189 --> 00:01:34.890 important series coming up this week against 00:01:34.890 --> 00:01:37.810 the Astros? We saw exactly what I was hoping 00:01:37.810 --> 00:01:41.250 to see the last week from the Tigers and here 00:01:41.250 --> 00:01:44.390 is where I'm gaining perspective on this Not 00:01:44.390 --> 00:01:48.189 only did they go to Minnesota and win on Thursday 00:01:48.189 --> 00:01:51.780 for three and then shut the twins out Friday, 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:55.799 7 -0 in those garish outfits. They're not even 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:58.140 uniforms. We'll talk about that in a minute. 00:01:58.640 --> 00:02:00.920 One yesterday, eight to five today doesn't look 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:03.319 great, but before that they took two and three 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:05.620 against the White Sox, and before that they took 00:02:05.620 --> 00:02:07.219 two out of three against the Angels. So if we 00:02:07.219 --> 00:02:10.919 go back to the first week of August when they 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:13.639 only won one, which was still considered good 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:17.810 in Philadelphia, and then came home and only 00:02:17.810 --> 00:02:20.169 won one out of three against the Twins. I don't 00:02:20.169 --> 00:02:22.430 want to say it's a 180, but I will say it's about 00:02:22.430 --> 00:02:25.590 as close to. And this team seems to be clicking 00:02:25.590 --> 00:02:28.909 as well as possible before this home series against 00:02:28.909 --> 00:02:32.629 the Houston Astros, upcoming at Comerica tomorrow 00:02:32.629 --> 00:02:35.810 through Wednesday. And then they've got the Royals, 00:02:36.009 --> 00:02:38.270 athletics and Royals, and that closes the month. 00:02:38.370 --> 00:02:42.099 I feel good about... everything. I mean I still 00:02:42.099 --> 00:02:44.000 don't like what happened at the trade deadline 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:46.500 and I know that's on the tip of your mind as 00:02:46.500 --> 00:02:49.780 well. I will say this thank God for Dylan Dingler 00:02:49.780 --> 00:02:53.280 because if he weren't showing like he's showing 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:56.400 things would really get ugly. I will give a second 00:02:56.400 --> 00:03:00.800 star to our good friend Javier Baez. Not so much 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:02.699 for what he's doing at the plate but what he's 00:03:02.699 --> 00:03:05.500 doing playing shortstop and centerfield because 00:03:05.500 --> 00:03:08.770 the Tigers seemingly don't have anybody. Outside 00:03:08.770 --> 00:03:11.590 of Trey Sweeney to do one of those two and Trey 00:03:11.590 --> 00:03:14.789 Sweeney cannot get out of this organization quickly 00:03:14.789 --> 00:03:19.069 enough in my opinion third star I guess the combined 00:03:19.069 --> 00:03:23.990 two -headed monster of Will Vest and Kyle Finnegan 00:03:23.990 --> 00:03:27.169 Outside of that this team is still pretty lifeless 00:03:27.169 --> 00:03:30.479 Torres seems and I'm asking you this It seems 00:03:30.479 --> 00:03:32.620 like he feels like he's done enough to get the 00:03:32.620 --> 00:03:35.479 next contract, or... Where would you have got 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:37.560 that from? Maybe my thoughts earlier this week 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:40.460 and the next string? I agree. I mean, you know 00:03:40.460 --> 00:03:42.120 how I feel about that. I think he's laying it 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:44.259 down a little bit. Like, I think he's kind of... 00:03:44.259 --> 00:03:46.340 I don't know what happened to him, but his patience 00:03:46.340 --> 00:03:51.219 is gone. He seems like he's playing the infield 00:03:51.219 --> 00:03:53.960 at three -quarters speed. So, but it's kind of 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:55.860 seen that way. I'll see. He's just not a fast 00:03:55.860 --> 00:03:58.969 man anymore. You know, I also think he plays 00:03:58.969 --> 00:04:02.250 at the same speed Sweeney does, which Sweeney 00:04:02.250 --> 00:04:06.129 is not a big league shortstop. It's driven me 00:04:06.129 --> 00:04:09.009 crazy or drove me crazy. How do you want to phrase 00:04:09.009 --> 00:04:12.590 it? All season, how slow? It's almost like he 00:04:12.590 --> 00:04:15.090 backs up on balls like a little leaguer. Every 00:04:15.090 --> 00:04:18.310 throw he makes is like a 50 -50, whether the 00:04:18.310 --> 00:04:21.689 guy's safe or out. And I just, there's no way 00:04:21.689 --> 00:04:23.610 the Tigers were ever going to fleece the Dodgers. 00:04:23.870 --> 00:04:26.389 Nobody fleeces the Dodgers. And so I think we 00:04:26.389 --> 00:04:29.569 got a good piece in the Jack Flaherty deal. I 00:04:29.569 --> 00:04:32.250 think we also got a very, very bad piece. And 00:04:32.250 --> 00:04:34.389 I think the bad piece is Trey Sweeney. There's 00:04:34.389 --> 00:04:37.490 a lot of teams right now who have Jack Flaherty's 00:04:37.490 --> 00:04:40.490 on their roster. Who would love to have traded 00:04:40.490 --> 00:04:43.230 Jack Flaherty's. We took one off of the Twins' 00:04:43.410 --> 00:04:46.129 hands in Chris Paddock. We gave very little up 00:04:46.129 --> 00:04:49.529 for it. But paddock has been nothing short of 00:04:49.529 --> 00:04:52.430 a disaster And a lot of those teams what they 00:04:52.430 --> 00:04:55.230 end up doing in a guy's final year if they can't 00:04:55.230 --> 00:04:58.670 trade a guy like that at the deadline they just 00:04:58.670 --> 00:05:01.889 let them go and hope somebody picks the contract 00:05:01.889 --> 00:05:04.870 up and If that doesn't happen if they put them 00:05:04.870 --> 00:05:07.810 on waivers and nobody picks up the contract then 00:05:07.810 --> 00:05:10.089 they just drop them they just you know, he's 00:05:10.089 --> 00:05:12.730 gone and they and then a team can pick them up 00:05:12.730 --> 00:05:14.649 for the minimum the other teams responsible for 00:05:14.649 --> 00:05:21.240 the money I I don't know 100 % if Chris Paddock 00:05:21.240 --> 00:05:23.920 is going to get it back or not. I mean, we looked 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:25.839 at a guy by the name of Matthew Boyd a few years 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:28.019 back and thought he'd never get it back. And 00:05:28.019 --> 00:05:30.759 he's now like a practically staff ace for the 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:34.399 Cubs this season outside of Shota. So these guys 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:37.040 can come back. They can find it eventually. They're 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:38.779 veterans for a reason. And it's usually because 00:05:38.779 --> 00:05:40.879 they'll make the adjustments to stay successful. 00:05:41.540 --> 00:05:45.220 But you can look across the free agent landscape. 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:47.560 There's a lot of deals that aren't panning out 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:50.019 right now. I just don't know that I want to see 00:05:50.019 --> 00:05:52.399 Chris Paddock this season pitching anymore. He 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:55.500 has been absolutely rolled by his former team 00:05:55.500 --> 00:05:58.639 twice now in both outings. Now, maybe they got 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:01.279 the intel on him. I don't care if he was effective. 00:06:01.420 --> 00:06:03.300 I think he'd be able to get by him. In regard 00:06:03.300 --> 00:06:06.579 to the rest of the team, Trey Sweeney, I, you 00:06:06.579 --> 00:06:08.860 know, he's still young. I just don't think he's 00:06:08.860 --> 00:06:10.860 a major league ballplayer yet. He doesn't have 00:06:10.860 --> 00:06:13.279 it yet. I think he needs a lot more. He needs 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:16.040 to figure it out. And I think he got maybe rushed 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:17.680 a titch. Maybe it was kind of one of those things 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:19.920 where Tiger's like, hey, we got this guy in this 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:21.480 trade. We flipped him. Let's see what we got 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:23.439 towards the end of last season. And he showed 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:25.519 up. He showed some skill. I mean, he went 2 -4 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:28.279 yesterday at a nice little game. and came up 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:30.579 pretty big in some situations late in an ugly 00:06:30.579 --> 00:06:33.240 game. But I'm willing to give him more time. 00:06:33.259 --> 00:06:34.879 I don't need to rush him out of the organization. 00:06:34.980 --> 00:06:37.259 We have spots and third, you know, and triple 00:06:37.259 --> 00:06:40.759 A that he can play for a little while. He's probably 00:06:40.759 --> 00:06:43.519 just going to be an orgy guy from here on out. 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:46.800 The problem is what's coming up behind him. Yeah, 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:48.860 it's going to bump him right out of there. Short 00:06:48.860 --> 00:06:51.860 stop. You just sit him down in triple A and use 00:06:51.860 --> 00:06:54.379 him as an injury, you know. I'm not saying DFA 00:06:54.379 --> 00:06:56.199 him or anything like that. There's no point. 00:06:56.319 --> 00:06:58.079 There's no but the fact that he's up there playing 00:06:58.079 --> 00:07:00.139 now bothers you which is when we're in crunch 00:07:00.139 --> 00:07:02.680 time and I get that I'm on board with that. Okay, 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:06.500 that that's I think the sample size is I've seen 00:07:06.500 --> 00:07:08.980 enough. You've seen enough. We've all seen in 00:07:08.980 --> 00:07:13.300 there now. Yeah, and This again comes back to 00:07:13.300 --> 00:07:16.860 dumpster diving on free agency. Yeah, I I will 00:07:16.860 --> 00:07:20.220 say though the free agent market It's not looking 00:07:20.220 --> 00:07:24.250 that pretty now. It's not holding Meaning that 00:07:24.250 --> 00:07:27.170 what? Exactly. Like, these guys that got signed, 00:07:27.350 --> 00:07:30.350 I mean, Eugenio Suarez. Take a look at him. You 00:07:30.350 --> 00:07:33.490 know what he's done this August since the Mariners 00:07:33.490 --> 00:07:35.509 went out and made the big splash to grab him? 00:07:36.149 --> 00:07:39.550 He's betting 135. A big bag of nothing. You know 00:07:39.550 --> 00:07:42.069 why? A huge bag of nothing. Because he went from 00:07:42.069 --> 00:07:46.120 controlled environment to a pictures park. that 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:49.480 is notorious, even though he played there before, 00:07:49.579 --> 00:07:52.620 but I could have forewarned the Mariners on this. 00:07:52.620 --> 00:07:55.100 By the way, he's still Eugenio Suarez. This isn't 00:07:55.100 --> 00:07:58.439 Juan Soto. Eugenio Suarez wouldn't be a journeyman 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:00.720 third baseman if he was any - if he was better. 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:02.879 That might have been a bad comparison, because 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:05.699 Juan Soto is actually not doing great right now 00:08:05.699 --> 00:08:06.759 either, but you know what I'm saying. He's more 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:10.680 Eugenio Suarez than he is Juan Soto. But the 00:08:10.680 --> 00:08:14.740 - abnormal result for Juan Soto is to be Eugenio 00:08:14.740 --> 00:08:17.600 Suarez. The normal result for Eugenio Suarez 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:20.439 is not to perform like the good Juan Soto. He's 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:22.699 a middling player at best, okay? And everybody 00:08:22.699 --> 00:08:24.579 treats him like they're getting Aaron Judge or 00:08:24.579 --> 00:08:27.000 something in a trade. Give up the farm for the 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:30.060 guy. If we had traded one of our top five for 00:08:30.060 --> 00:08:32.779 this guy and he did what he's doing now, the 00:08:32.779 --> 00:08:34.720 fan base would be up in arms. They'd be like, 00:08:34.779 --> 00:08:36.919 oh, this was the dumbest thing they could have 00:08:36.919 --> 00:08:40.139 done. And you know what, when it happened, everybody 00:08:40.139 --> 00:08:42.679 would have applauded, but the aftermath would 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:45.899 have not been pretty. Another guy, Ryan Halsey, 00:08:46.220 --> 00:08:48.600 probably the second or third best closer in the 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:51.080 whole entire, in the second or third best reliever 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:55.419 at the trade deadline. Mason Miller number one. 00:08:55.419 --> 00:08:58.759 Yep, Halsey to Finnegan probably three. Well, 00:08:58.899 --> 00:09:00.399 John Duran's in there, too You're forgetting 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:03.299 about Duran from the twins, but but you know 00:09:03.299 --> 00:09:05.440 that Finnegan was higher on my list I know he 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:08.379 was higher on your list, but overall Consensus 00:09:08.379 --> 00:09:12.299 I'm sure it was something like Miller Duran and 00:09:12.299 --> 00:09:14.399 Halsey you could flip -flop Halsey and Duran 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:17.840 probably anyways Ryan Elsie's been a disaster. 00:09:17.860 --> 00:09:20.639 He's blown three straight saves in the month 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:24.389 of August Halsey is oh in three This is a closer 00:09:24.389 --> 00:09:28.409 area of eight point four four. He has seven strikeouts 00:09:28.409 --> 00:09:31.669 and seven appearances. The guy can not get anybody 00:09:31.669 --> 00:09:34.029 out. He's got three blown saves in another game 00:09:34.029 --> 00:09:35.570 where he gave up a couple runs. I don't think 00:09:35.570 --> 00:09:38.610 he blew a save, but it's it's been a nightmare 00:09:38.610 --> 00:09:41.110 over there and the Mets. You can talk about the 00:09:41.110 --> 00:09:43.649 Tigers having trouble and struggling. There's 00:09:43.649 --> 00:09:46.649 a lot of teams that were. that were at the top 00:09:46.649 --> 00:09:49.289 of their division, that were, you know, in the 00:09:49.289 --> 00:09:51.769 top four or five in the power rankings, that 00:09:51.769 --> 00:09:54.809 are now absolutely struggling. The Dodgers can't 00:09:54.809 --> 00:09:56.629 seem to get their feet under them, having an 00:09:56.629 --> 00:10:00.529 awful August. Mets, awful August, terrible August 00:10:00.529 --> 00:10:04.070 right now. Tigers were but have bounced back 00:10:04.070 --> 00:10:07.690 nicely in the last two weeks against subpar competition, 00:10:07.690 --> 00:10:10.370 but that's what you got to do. So, you know, 00:10:10.470 --> 00:10:12.169 not everybody's the Brewers. The Brewers are 00:10:12.169 --> 00:10:14.649 on some magical carpet ride right now that I 00:10:14.649 --> 00:10:17.289 can't even explain. They have a ton of young 00:10:17.289 --> 00:10:20.769 talent, but I have no clue how they're making 00:10:20.769 --> 00:10:23.370 it work right now. They are winning games they 00:10:23.370 --> 00:10:25.889 shouldn't win. I mean, they've won 10 in a row 00:10:25.889 --> 00:10:28.429 twice now, or 10 in a row plus twice now. So 00:10:28.429 --> 00:10:31.700 it's 14 and they just... are in an extra means 00:10:31.700 --> 00:10:34.539 game right now. There you go. I mean. So it could 00:10:34.539 --> 00:10:37.480 be 15. My point being the trade deadline deal 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:39.759 with these guys that are going to be free agents 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:42.700 that are ending their contract. This is a complete 00:10:42.700 --> 00:10:46.019 and total crap shoot. These, especially with 00:10:46.019 --> 00:10:49.059 bullpens. I mean, bullpen guys here today, gone 00:10:49.059 --> 00:10:50.659 tomorrow. I mean, you don't know what you're 00:10:50.659 --> 00:10:53.659 getting with a bullpen guy. It's just way too 00:10:53.659 --> 00:10:56.019 inconsistent. And you don't know what you're 00:10:56.019 --> 00:10:58.539 getting with a middling player like Eugenio Suarez. 00:10:58.970 --> 00:11:02.169 Just way too inconsistent results. And like you 00:11:02.169 --> 00:11:05.149 said, it could be the environment. How much does 00:11:05.149 --> 00:11:08.190 the environment dictate how well these guys do? 00:11:08.870 --> 00:11:12.070 So on that, I've got a couple questions for you. 00:11:12.169 --> 00:11:15.509 Great rant, by the way. I give you like an A 00:11:15.509 --> 00:11:17.950 minus. You didn't like how I didn't get it going 00:11:17.950 --> 00:11:20.690 when you wanted me to, but I get it. I was trying 00:11:20.690 --> 00:11:22.490 to give us some time to get through the game 00:11:22.490 --> 00:11:24.970 before I ranted, but I think we said all we wanted 00:11:24.970 --> 00:11:27.570 to about the Twins series at this point. Unless 00:11:27.570 --> 00:11:29.690 you want to touch on anything else. Take a breath, 00:11:29.850 --> 00:11:32.070 buddy. I'm taking a breath. I'm taking a breath. 00:11:32.210 --> 00:11:33.950 All I was going to say is, what do we think Ryan 00:11:33.950 --> 00:11:36.870 Helsey misses most about St. Louis? Is it his 00:11:36.870 --> 00:11:40.490 wife, his family, the free Budweiser and Bud 00:11:40.490 --> 00:11:42.250 Light? He gets everywhere he goes. The happiness 00:11:42.250 --> 00:11:44.169 of these players has something to do with it, 00:11:44.269 --> 00:11:46.590 Bill. I think it's the toasted ravioli, personally. 00:11:46.950 --> 00:11:49.210 You want to look at a different free agency situation? 00:11:49.350 --> 00:11:52.110 Look at Carlos Correa. Look what he's done since 00:11:52.110 --> 00:11:54.149 he got up to use it. We talked about it in the 00:11:54.149 --> 00:11:57.179 last pod. Because he's happy as a clam. Because 00:11:57.179 --> 00:11:59.299 he's back at Irma's Place, one of the greatest 00:11:59.299 --> 00:12:01.639 restaurants in the United States. Back at Irma's 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:04.059 Place. You and your food, you found, I mean, 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:07.100 look, whatever it is, he's happy playing where 00:12:07.100 --> 00:12:09.940 he is again. And lo and behold, he looks like 00:12:09.940 --> 00:12:13.500 Carlos Carrera from 2019 or whatever. I don't 00:12:13.500 --> 00:12:15.240 remember the last time he was that great, but 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:18.059 he looks good. So initially, we were really hard 00:12:18.059 --> 00:12:21.379 on Scott Harris and company for not doing what 00:12:21.379 --> 00:12:25.600 we deemed enough at this deadline. and what we 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:28.720 called, and many others, I mean, trust us, we 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:31.879 weren't, meaning you and I, listeners, we weren't 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:34.000 unique in this dumpster diving, you know, the 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:36.299 Tigers really. No, I mean, it was what it was. 00:12:36.919 --> 00:12:39.460 Hold on, the point is. Whether it was smart or 00:12:39.460 --> 00:12:42.080 not, it's a whole different thing. Well, I gave, 00:12:42.940 --> 00:12:45.820 I mean, what did we give at the time, like a 00:12:45.820 --> 00:12:47.919 B minus C plus on it? I think it was like a B 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:51.019 minus C plus because we got Finnegan. And I would 00:12:51.019 --> 00:12:52.799 say. And he's turned out to be great. I would 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:55.940 say it's closer to a BB plus at this point only 00:12:55.940 --> 00:12:59.480 for Finnegan and the fact that any quality start 00:12:59.480 --> 00:13:02.860 they get out of Morton and any quality start 00:13:02.860 --> 00:13:06.039 they get out of Paddock is a bonus at this point 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:09.980 because the Tigers are still getting used to 00:13:09.980 --> 00:13:12.159 this brave new world that we look at in Major 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:15.279 League Baseball that you can go into a season 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:18.580 like they did with seven starting pitchers in 00:13:18.580 --> 00:13:22.460 theory, okay? Yeah. I'm bringing back a couple, 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:24.679 I'm talking about Montero, I'm talking about 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:27.639 Maeda, I'm also talking about Alex Cobb that 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:29.840 apparently he's still getting hip injections, 00:13:31.220 --> 00:13:34.240 which - 15 million for the season. God, how did 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:37.340 we sign up for that job? We paid him 15 million 00:13:37.340 --> 00:13:40.000 dollars to get about a million dollars worth 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:41.919 of hip injections. I'm sure Lloyds of London 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:45.610 is - There's definitely insurance policy out 00:13:45.610 --> 00:13:47.870 somewhere. But anyway, my point with all this 00:13:47.870 --> 00:13:51.309 is I give Scott Harris a higher grade now coming 00:13:51.309 --> 00:13:53.830 out of it. You have to. And the only team that 00:13:53.830 --> 00:13:59.669 I still applaud that went in guns blazing because 00:13:59.669 --> 00:14:02.440 they had to. I think if they were going to win 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:04.460 the division is the Padres. Well, and look where 00:14:04.460 --> 00:14:05.879 they are right now. They're taking over first 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:07.820 place in the NL West. I think it's the first 00:14:07.820 --> 00:14:10.759 time they've been in first place in the NL West 00:14:10.759 --> 00:14:13.399 this late in the season since 2010. Awesome. 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:15.659 I heard that the other day. That's crazy. So 00:14:15.659 --> 00:14:17.620 that paid off. You either gamble big and you 00:14:17.620 --> 00:14:21.580 go big or you don't want to just tickle it at 00:14:21.580 --> 00:14:24.299 the trade deadline. You want to go big. And i 00:14:24.299 --> 00:14:26.919 still think with the work stoppage i mean i'm 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:29.360 putting this like the tigers playoff odds at 00:14:29.360 --> 00:14:32.080 this point cuz i'm on prospectus right now and 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:35.080 we're. Hovering around ninety nine percent right 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:37.679 now just to make the playoffs which is great 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:41.360 and so are the padres. And i have a feeling that 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:43.899 is we've documented and talked about before work 00:14:43.899 --> 00:14:46.860 stoppage is inevitable possibly in you know going 00:14:46.860 --> 00:14:50.019 into twenty twenty seven and the padres might 00:14:50.019 --> 00:14:54.919 have done themselves. good service or or Going 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:57.500 putting all the chips on the table pushing it 00:14:57.500 --> 00:15:00.740 all in and ending up and here's why chat The 00:15:00.740 --> 00:15:03.340 Dodgers are gonna come out of whatever work stoppage 00:15:03.340 --> 00:15:06.440 happens or whatever labor dispute happens Dodgers 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:09.679 are gonna be just fine Padres ownership's in 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:13.120 fighting. There's some shares being sold. There's 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:16.419 percentages trading. We're The Tigers are in 00:15:16.419 --> 00:15:18.919 a different landscape than that of the San Diego 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:22.080 Padres. A, let's just talk about the division 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:24.440 right now where it sits currently. And I know 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:26.419 you share my thoughts on this, and so that's 00:15:26.419 --> 00:15:29.139 why I can't wait for your comments. But you've 00:15:29.139 --> 00:15:31.519 got the twins that were for sale. Now they're 00:15:31.519 --> 00:15:33.059 not for sale, but they're selling. Well, they 00:15:33.059 --> 00:15:35.100 got what they wanted. They sold the pieces off 00:15:35.100 --> 00:15:37.600 to get a little financial help there. Oh, like 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:40.019 the Polhats needed the money, so. Well, I think 00:15:40.019 --> 00:15:43.279 they just wanted to divest a little. Okay, well 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:45.159 they're still drawing the worst they've drawn 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:47.840 since target field open. Oh, yeah, and they wanted 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:50.299 they say they wanted a new fresh perspective 00:15:50.299 --> 00:15:54.240 Yes, okay The Guardians are also drawing very 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:56.379 poorly despite the fact that they won the division 00:15:56.379 --> 00:15:58.779 last year and they've been the dominant team 00:15:58.779 --> 00:16:01.720 I mean think about this we're marveling over 00:16:01.720 --> 00:16:04.659 the Brewers winning 14 straight They did lose 00:16:04.659 --> 00:16:08.000 today in extra needs to the rest the last team 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:11.179 to go on this type of hot streak was the 2017 00:16:11.419 --> 00:16:13.899 Indians at that time, but Guardians now. They 00:16:13.899 --> 00:16:16.240 don't spend money. They develop from within. 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:19.279 The Royals, we don't know really what's going 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:21.000 on until they get their new stadium or don't 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:23.659 get their new stadium. And the White Sox are, 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:27.419 I would say, at least two, possibly three seasons 00:16:27.419 --> 00:16:30.679 away from being a real threat to anybody else 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:33.059 that I mentioned in the division. So the Tigers 00:16:33.059 --> 00:16:36.139 and Scott Harris were pretty smart to stay the 00:16:36.139 --> 00:16:38.740 course. Let's say the labor dispute ends quickly, 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:40.919 which awesome. I mean, you and I are going to 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:43.000 not have a lot to talk about as podcast hosts. 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:49.120 That would be interesting. Yeah. Wow. You know, 00:16:49.220 --> 00:16:52.659 the Tigers have a chance, and it's never happened 00:16:52.659 --> 00:16:55.200 in my lifetime, and you're the same age as I 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:57.059 am, so it's never happened in your lifetime, 00:16:57.620 --> 00:17:01.559 to actually look at this division and possibly 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:06.259 run away with it for the next six, eight, ten 00:17:06.259 --> 00:17:10.650 years if... the chips fall their way, prospects 00:17:10.650 --> 00:17:14.109 develop, and go forward. And that, Chet, is a 00:17:14.109 --> 00:17:17.109 more exciting proposition to me right now than 00:17:17.109 --> 00:17:20.289 being the Padres this year. I know I'm talking 00:17:20.289 --> 00:17:22.390 out of both sides of my mouth because three weeks 00:17:22.390 --> 00:17:25.589 ago I was barking to anybody, shouting from the 00:17:25.589 --> 00:17:28.990 rooftops, do more, do more. And here's my point, 00:17:29.130 --> 00:17:32.470 I think the long view could be the way to play 00:17:32.470 --> 00:17:35.250 on this. That was long. So I gotta rant, you 00:17:35.250 --> 00:17:37.869 gotta rant. I'm going to agree with a lot of 00:17:37.869 --> 00:17:40.869 what you said, other than the fact that, well, 00:17:41.009 --> 00:17:42.930 you know, the wild card is kind of the whole 00:17:42.930 --> 00:17:44.569 CBA and what's going to happen with that. We 00:17:44.569 --> 00:17:47.690 don't know what's going to happen. There's going 00:17:47.690 --> 00:17:50.130 to be a, I mean, if I'm a betting man, it's a 00:17:50.130 --> 00:17:54.009 salary cap. A lot of our concerns are, well, 00:17:54.009 --> 00:17:56.970 we have this opportunity right now, but we really 00:17:56.970 --> 00:17:59.230 kind of lucked into the opportunity at this juncture. 00:17:59.390 --> 00:18:02.509 We never should have progressed to this stage 00:18:02.509 --> 00:18:06.740 as an organization. Quickly as we did after Harris 00:18:06.740 --> 00:18:08.240 took over the reins. I thought it was gonna be 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:11.640 a five -year rebuild for him It's got it's happening 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:14.900 too. I mean, yeah, but he inherited what was 00:18:14.900 --> 00:18:18.220 a 10 -year rebuild and true That's true because 00:18:18.220 --> 00:18:20.400 we had we were already rebuilding and rebuilding 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:22.420 and rebuilding when they signed him It was like, 00:18:22.420 --> 00:18:24.359 oh here comes another five -year rebuild But 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:26.700 he's been able to do a lot more with a lot less 00:18:26.700 --> 00:18:29.480 in a short short period of time He's had some 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:31.240 luck. He said some guys come up and do pretty 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:37.059 well but but In order to revamp our team to the 00:18:37.059 --> 00:18:39.740 degree we would have had to I don't think the 00:18:39.740 --> 00:18:42.460 chips were out there to do it I just don't think 00:18:42.460 --> 00:18:45.539 the impact players were out there at this trade 00:18:45.539 --> 00:18:47.180 deadline and we talked about this There were 00:18:47.180 --> 00:18:49.599 a lot of guys that were there that were a lot 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:52.859 of what we already had So I think he did good 00:18:52.859 --> 00:18:55.740 getting what he got I mean Chuckie Morton out 00:18:55.740 --> 00:18:58.460 there winning another game the other night better 00:18:58.460 --> 00:19:02.180 than nothing Chris Paddock? Well, sometimes you 00:19:02.180 --> 00:19:04.920 take a gamble and lose. Maybe the change of scenery 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:07.380 isn't what Chris Paddock needed. Rafael Montero 00:19:07.380 --> 00:19:09.460 came and closed out a game the other night in 00:19:09.460 --> 00:19:13.200 a close game. I was rather shocked that he was 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:15.400 used in that situation, but what else did he 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:19.480 have? I am gonna say that we're in a decent spot 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:23.660 to maybe get a series in the postseason. When 00:19:23.660 --> 00:19:26.720 I think about it, How would you roll a starting 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:28.599 pitching staff out in the postseason from what 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:30.779 you have to choose from right now? What would 00:19:30.779 --> 00:19:35.460 your order be? That is a loaded question because 00:19:35.460 --> 00:19:37.660 there's one of two things that have to happen. 00:19:38.140 --> 00:19:40.279 If they're one of the two teams that get the 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:44.900 buy, it's a totally different scenario going 00:19:44.900 --> 00:19:48.599 into a longer series than a three -game series. 00:19:48.779 --> 00:19:52.059 If you go into a three -game series, you will 00:19:52.059 --> 00:19:55.740 pray. And I mean, you pray that you play a big 00:19:55.740 --> 00:19:58.099 market team. And here's why. It's going to give 00:19:58.099 --> 00:20:00.900 you more time to get scubal out there twice. 00:20:01.559 --> 00:20:04.619 Okay. All right. That's my theory right there. 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:08.380 Okay. So I would go scubal one, maize two, and 00:20:08.380 --> 00:20:13.400 then I use a whole lot of chaos in every available 00:20:13.400 --> 00:20:16.539 arm. to the point of, I'm pitching guys a third 00:20:16.539 --> 00:20:19.000 of an inning by a third of an inning. I use empty 00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:20.960 the cannon. So you're not pitching Flaherty in 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:23.000 the postseason. You're not pitching Melton in 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:24.160 the postseason. I'm pitching him in game two. 00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:26.859 You're not pitching Charlie Morton in the postseason. 00:20:27.140 --> 00:20:30.240 Starting them? Hell no. Starting them. Sorry. 00:20:30.940 --> 00:20:33.119 So game one. That's my second H -bomb. Game one 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:38.160 is Scubal. Yeah. Game two is going to be Mize. 00:20:39.099 --> 00:20:41.279 And then you're chaos from there. In a three 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:44.650 game series? Yes. Okay, if we got about a seven 00:20:44.650 --> 00:20:47.950 game Then I would probably go more conventional 00:20:47.950 --> 00:20:50.529 and try Flaherty in the three hole there and 00:20:50.529 --> 00:20:53.789 then duplicate that again with the potential 00:20:53.789 --> 00:20:57.170 it depends I need to see the schedule chat because 00:20:57.170 --> 00:21:00.890 I'm pitching at this point if scoops is saying 00:21:00.890 --> 00:21:04.029 that he's You know not interested in signing 00:21:04.029 --> 00:21:07.589 but he's this warrior and competitor great. Show 00:21:07.589 --> 00:21:10.609 me I'm gonna pitch you on three days rest and 00:21:10.829 --> 00:21:14.829 This is where because I'm getting hurt and Jackson 00:21:14.829 --> 00:21:17.569 job getting getting hurt really come back to 00:21:17.569 --> 00:21:20.769 haunt us because I I mean I never saw Flaherty's 00:21:20.769 --> 00:21:23.470 in number two and now I think a lot of people 00:21:23.470 --> 00:21:25.769 did or maybe thought he was because he was getting 00:21:25.769 --> 00:21:28.809 paid like a two. He's paid like a two but outside 00:21:28.809 --> 00:21:32.109 of that he is not a two. I think he's a In all 00:21:32.109 --> 00:21:35.089 rotation, I think he's a four. I would put Melton 00:21:35.089 --> 00:21:37.490 in before him to be dead honest and see if you 00:21:37.490 --> 00:21:39.769 can catch fire with him in the postseason. I'd 00:21:39.769 --> 00:21:41.230 like to see him in a few more starts and I think 00:21:41.230 --> 00:21:44.789 we're gonna, but. Well, hold on, that's a slippery 00:21:44.789 --> 00:21:48.329 slope though for the fact that the less. At bats 00:21:48.329 --> 00:21:52.089 that Melton shows the better. He could potentially 00:21:52.089 --> 00:21:54.150 be in the postseason You don't know when they're 00:21:54.150 --> 00:21:56.650 gonna pick up on them So interesting subtext 00:21:56.650 --> 00:21:59.650 to this is and this is just a little caveat listeners 00:21:59.650 --> 00:22:02.130 See if Melton pitches at all against the Red 00:22:02.130 --> 00:22:05.289 Sox and Yankees in the month of September Because 00:22:05.289 --> 00:22:07.970 those are two likely opponents that we are gonna 00:22:07.970 --> 00:22:11.210 face outside of the Guardians outside of that 00:22:11.259 --> 00:22:13.460 Everybody else's National League or teams that 00:22:13.460 --> 00:22:16.299 will not qualify for the playoffs. So what would 00:22:16.299 --> 00:22:18.599 you do differently? Nothing past two starters 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:21.339 basically right now that you would trust outside. 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:24.359 So my frustration with Scott Harris is this. 00:22:24.819 --> 00:22:27.140 Here we are the best team in baseball for the 00:22:27.140 --> 00:22:29.960 last year. And it's true. By record, they are 00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:33.269 the best team in baseball year over year. We're 00:22:33.269 --> 00:22:36.430 in the exact same position. We were one year 00:22:36.430 --> 00:22:40.750 ago, and we still have no starting pitching depth 00:22:40.750 --> 00:22:42.970 And I'm just wondering did he not go for it or 00:22:42.970 --> 00:22:45.289 he just figured Flaherty's it Flaherty's good 00:22:45.289 --> 00:22:49.250 enough. He'll get us there Maybe well gosh, I 00:22:49.250 --> 00:22:51.630 don't know Chad I mean let's work our we need 00:22:51.630 --> 00:22:54.589 our interns to work their magic and try to effort 00:22:54.589 --> 00:22:57.799 Scott see what Get Scott Harris on the pod here, 00:22:58.180 --> 00:23:01.200 and we'll ask the man himself. I don't know how 00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:03.319 you think he's going to be enough to get you 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:04.880 over. I think they're counting on Reese Olson. 00:23:04.980 --> 00:23:07.700 They're counting on Jackson Job. They had a rotation. 00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:11.200 I would have much rather had them as backup options, 00:23:11.980 --> 00:23:14.319 but Reese, no. But Jackson Job, yeah, he was 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:16.019 a little young coming out and thinking he was 00:23:16.019 --> 00:23:18.059 going to get a starting gig that he was going 00:23:18.059 --> 00:23:21.460 to hold all season long. Sure. Mize has been 00:23:21.460 --> 00:23:23.480 a nice surprise. If it wasn't for Casey Mize, 00:23:23.619 --> 00:23:25.299 we'd be, I don't know where we'd be right now 00:23:25.299 --> 00:23:27.299 with our rotation. It wouldn't look good at all. 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:29.920 No, not at all. And the other thought on that 00:23:29.920 --> 00:23:33.480 is that going into the season is that Montero, 00:23:33.819 --> 00:23:39.019 Maeda, or Cobb should have been able to get you 00:23:39.019 --> 00:23:42.660 innings at some point. Like, you have to think 00:23:42.660 --> 00:23:47.140 all logic in statistical analysis, whatever, 00:23:47.539 --> 00:23:50.779 you know, Algorithm they ran said that they would 00:23:50.779 --> 00:23:53.460 get X amount of innings from those three individuals 00:23:53.460 --> 00:23:56.279 Yeah, and they didn't get anything from those 00:23:56.279 --> 00:23:59.099 three individual. Actually Montero did yeoman's 00:23:59.099 --> 00:24:01.519 work He's the one that I would give kudos to 00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:04.380 on this and I hope he's on the 40 -man and I 00:24:04.380 --> 00:24:07.440 expect him to be and I think we're gonna see 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:11.420 more chaos and just Madness. Okay Now, that's 00:24:11.420 --> 00:24:13.960 not my biggest concern in the playoffs, actually. 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:16.359 Can I tell you what my concern is? You gave me 00:24:16.359 --> 00:24:18.200 a little, you shot me a little message this past 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:20.240 week. And if this is what I think you're going 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:23.539 to talk about, it's how you feel about our lineup 00:24:23.539 --> 00:24:28.039 and AJ. Is that it? Or is that something different? 00:24:28.339 --> 00:24:32.599 No, I don't really have questions with AJ, perhaps. 00:24:32.779 --> 00:24:35.619 He's doing the best he can with what he has. 00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:37.579 OK, all right. That was a little different than 00:24:37.579 --> 00:24:39.740 you gave me the other day, but all right. One 00:24:39.740 --> 00:24:43.359 question is why they can't figure out a leadoff 00:24:43.359 --> 00:24:47.339 hitter. And why he keeps messing with it because... 00:24:47.339 --> 00:24:49.859 Do you think we have one on this roster? We do 00:24:49.859 --> 00:24:53.259 not. And that is where I'm coming to AJ's defense. 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:55.420 That's why he keeps messing with it. I would 00:24:55.420 --> 00:24:58.460 do some real unconventional stuff at this point. 00:24:58.579 --> 00:25:02.460 Meaning, I would go back and look at... I mean, 00:25:02.460 --> 00:25:04.940 and I know the answer, it's Torres. And he only 00:25:04.940 --> 00:25:07.859 combats second. He's a second baseman. I mean... 00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:11.279 The Tora signing is still the most befuddling 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:14.339 thing and I know we've gotten positive word out 00:25:14.339 --> 00:25:16.380 of him. The first two thirds of the season. You 00:25:16.380 --> 00:25:19.240 were so happy with him. But he's kind of screwed 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:21.559 up the season because he's delayed Colt Keith's 00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:24.519 development. He occupied that position. The Tigers 00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:28.799 got super lucky with Torque coming back to like 00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:32.079 what we thought Torque could be. Yeah. But if 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:36.269 I had to bat somebody lead off In this lineup 00:25:36.269 --> 00:25:38.789 and you're gonna cringe when you hear me say 00:25:38.789 --> 00:25:42.309 this. I think Dingler's the only guy that I trust 00:25:42.309 --> 00:25:44.490 at this point and I don't know that that's the 00:25:44.490 --> 00:25:46.410 right thing to do either. I'll tell you what 00:25:46.410 --> 00:25:48.230 I don't like and they did it in a couple games 00:25:48.230 --> 00:25:51.880 in this series. The leadoff hitter is is a problem 00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:53.819 because we just don't have one. I don't know 00:25:53.819 --> 00:25:56.319 how he solves that. I mean, it's musical chairs 00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:58.619 at that spot, it seems. Colt's kind of taking 00:25:58.619 --> 00:26:00.539 it more or less because he's probably got one 00:26:00.539 --> 00:26:04.059 of the better approaches on the team. But I can't 00:26:04.059 --> 00:26:08.000 stand that we are putting Kerry Carpenter and 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:10.980 Riley Green back to back in this lineup at three 00:26:10.980 --> 00:26:15.180 and four. It's two lefties back to back. It kind 00:26:15.180 --> 00:26:19.210 of creates a little bit of an issue. if they 00:26:19.210 --> 00:26:21.230 separated those guys and put torque in the middle 00:26:21.230 --> 00:26:23.390 like he did today, then it makes it a little 00:26:23.390 --> 00:26:26.089 more difficult. And I've heard multiple people 00:26:26.089 --> 00:26:28.089 mention this. Nobody's happy about this situation. 00:26:28.430 --> 00:26:31.309 And that was a weird deal. Like it's just as 00:26:31.309 --> 00:26:34.289 I don't know if it's he'd rather he's trading 00:26:34.289 --> 00:26:37.529 the back to back lefty lefty for the three and 00:26:37.529 --> 00:26:39.109 four spot in the lineup. And he doesn't want 00:26:39.109 --> 00:26:41.789 to put one of those guys at fifth, but. Put Torque 00:26:41.789 --> 00:26:43.650 in that cleanup spot in between the two of them. 00:26:43.750 --> 00:26:46.390 It works pretty well, I think, over the long 00:26:46.390 --> 00:26:49.490 haul. But he backs them up together and it makes 00:26:49.490 --> 00:26:52.349 it a little easier on the other team with pitching 00:26:52.349 --> 00:26:54.430 matchups and so forth. Especially since Kerry 00:26:54.430 --> 00:26:56.670 Carpenter is a totally different hitter against 00:26:56.670 --> 00:26:59.369 lefties. Do you know what it smells like? What's 00:26:59.369 --> 00:27:04.710 that? 1 .50 a .m. before the 2 a .m. bars are 00:27:04.710 --> 00:27:07.470 about to close on a Saturday night. It smells 00:27:07.470 --> 00:27:10.869 like desperation. Like desperation. Alright, 00:27:11.069 --> 00:27:13.910 I don't have a whole lot more on the Tigers other 00:27:13.910 --> 00:27:17.349 than this is going to be a pivotal series against 00:27:17.349 --> 00:27:21.589 the Astros and I like the pitching matchups given 00:27:21.589 --> 00:27:23.690 how much we've... I'd be curious to see how we 00:27:23.690 --> 00:27:27.170 do it, you know, against their pitching. It will 00:27:27.170 --> 00:27:29.589 matter. Those matchups are going to matter. Yeah, 00:27:29.869 --> 00:27:33.569 so we've got Flaherty, Scoobs and Morton. The 00:27:33.569 --> 00:27:35.509 only way it would be better is if we had Mize 00:27:35.509 --> 00:27:38.069 in one of those positions and Flaherty not in 00:27:38.069 --> 00:27:40.970 any of those positions. That being said, it is 00:27:40.970 --> 00:27:43.509 what it is. We will see. We've previewed that 00:27:43.509 --> 00:27:46.269 for you, Tiger fans, and we appreciate each and 00:27:46.269 --> 00:27:48.509 every one of you listening, so thank you. Chet, 00:27:48.609 --> 00:27:50.930 any other final thoughts before we sign off? 00:27:51.210 --> 00:27:54.009 We're gonna clip it there. We will talk to you 00:27:54.009 --> 00:27:55.910 guys after the Astro series because I have a 00:27:55.910 --> 00:27:59.589 feeling this one might rile us up a little bit 00:27:59.589 --> 00:28:01.609 more. I don't know if we're gonna be able to 00:28:01.609 --> 00:28:04.430 get two out of three from the Astros. And I'm 00:28:04.430 --> 00:28:06.849 sure we'll have some opinions after we play them. 00:28:07.579 --> 00:28:10.920 Everybody enjoy the start of your week? Go Tigers! 00:28:15.380 --> 00:28:17.799 All right, that's gonna do it for this episode 00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:20.859 of the Litterbox, a Detroit Tigers podcast. Thanks 00:28:20.859 --> 00:28:23.059 for hanging out with us. We're Bill and Chet. 00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:25.960 We'll be back soon with more Tigers Talk. If 00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:28.240 you're enjoying the show, be sure to follow or 00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:31.940 subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 00:28:31.940 --> 00:28:34.799 you get your podcasts. And hey, if you got a 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:38.430 minute, leave us a quick review. Until next time, 00:28:38.690 --> 00:28:39.329 Go Tigers!