WEBVTT 00:00:02.569 --> 00:00:05.469 You're listening to the litter box a Detroit 00:00:05.469 --> 00:00:09.570 Tigers podcast with your hosts Chet West and 00:00:09.570 --> 00:00:20.129 Bill Patterson Here's what's on deck for this 00:00:20.129 --> 00:00:23.769 episode we didn't plate a ton of runs in this 00:00:23.769 --> 00:00:27.309 series this point I am fairly certain he will 00:00:27.309 --> 00:00:31.660 not be on The 40 man, was it the pork chop sandwich? 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:33.840 Did you go for the pork? Byron Buxton might be 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:36.659 my favorite player of all time because he dropped 00:00:36.659 --> 00:00:44.640 like Litterbox listeners, welcome to the Tigers 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:48.960 edition and Boy, oh boy. We've had a road trip 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:51.979 and I don't know that we have a whole lot of 00:00:51.979 --> 00:00:54.479 Awesomeness to report even though the Tigers 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:57.719 won the series in Chicago over the White Sox 00:00:57.770 --> 00:01:01.890 They won Monday, August 11th, 2 to 1. They lost 00:01:01.890 --> 00:01:06.730 in dismal fashion yesterday, 9 to 6. And then 00:01:06.730 --> 00:01:10.670 today they eked out a 1 -0 win against the White 00:01:10.670 --> 00:01:13.969 Sox. And I've got a host of thoughts, but I also 00:01:13.969 --> 00:01:16.849 know my co -host does as well. So Chet, just 00:01:16.849 --> 00:01:19.870 give me a couple thoughts off the top of your 00:01:19.870 --> 00:01:23.409 head on this. I think we were fortunate, first 00:01:23.409 --> 00:01:27.620 and foremost. We didn't plate a ton of runs in 00:01:27.620 --> 00:01:31.099 this series except in the game we lost. I mean 00:01:31.099 --> 00:01:33.079 the two games that we won we scored a total of 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:36.019 three runs. That typically won't even get you 00:01:36.019 --> 00:01:40.319 a win if you score that across one game. So first 00:01:40.319 --> 00:01:45.260 game 2 -1 victory. Chris Paddock. We got the 00:01:45.260 --> 00:01:48.400 decent Chris Paddock in this one. Not bad, right? 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:51.640 5 .2 innings, three hits, a run, a walk, four 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:54.730 K's. I can get with that. That's fine. That's 00:01:54.730 --> 00:01:56.569 what you expect out of a number five guy, which 00:01:56.569 --> 00:02:01.069 is basically what he is, or a 5B, or a 5C, or 00:02:01.069 --> 00:02:03.629 however we want to list it. Can I call him a 00:02:03.629 --> 00:02:06.230 six at this point? Yeah, you totally can. I mean, 00:02:06.310 --> 00:02:08.889 can we swing guy in most rotations, maybe? Can 00:02:08.889 --> 00:02:11.669 we circle back to that later, please? Yeah. Yeah. 00:02:11.750 --> 00:02:14.509 Well, let's circle back to the concept of the 00:02:14.509 --> 00:02:18.189 sixth starter, shall we? Put a little... Little 00:02:18.189 --> 00:02:20.509 footnote there. We'll put a pin in it. Your guy, 00:02:20.509 --> 00:02:22.449 Tyler Holton, had a nice little game in game 00:02:22.449 --> 00:02:25.490 one, though. One and a third. Gave up a hit. 00:02:25.629 --> 00:02:28.550 Got a K. No runs again. Maybe he's trending in 00:02:28.550 --> 00:02:30.770 the right direction. Feeling better about him 00:02:30.770 --> 00:02:34.210 lately? Yeah, he knew that he was in my town, 00:02:34.250 --> 00:02:36.909 so he needed to represent because... Like, my 00:02:36.909 --> 00:02:39.889 guy. My guy is down the road. I mean, he's like, 00:02:39.990 --> 00:02:41.870 Billy P's my biggest supporter. He's the only 00:02:41.870 --> 00:02:44.569 guy that ordered my jersey. You don't burn your 00:02:44.569 --> 00:02:48.139 biggest supporter. No. Kyle Finnegan. Gave us 00:02:48.139 --> 00:02:50.639 an inning. It seems like Finnegan is now taking 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:55.400 that hold position, that set up position and 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:58.039 vest is keeping the closing position. Or are 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:00.300 they just going to flip flop? I I'll be curious 00:03:00.300 --> 00:03:03.460 to see how that works out. I can only talk about 00:03:03.460 --> 00:03:06.460 what happened today and we are broadcasting on 00:03:06.460 --> 00:03:11.930 the 13th. And it seemed that they resumed the 00:03:11.930 --> 00:03:16.490 setup for Finnegan, the closer for Vest. And 00:03:16.490 --> 00:03:20.330 it works really well. It does. Chet, I'm not 00:03:20.330 --> 00:03:23.069 going to say that you and I are Nostradamus or 00:03:23.069 --> 00:03:27.430 really good at this baseball analysis. That being 00:03:27.430 --> 00:03:31.330 said. We were spot on about Kyle Finnegan. He 00:03:31.330 --> 00:03:33.830 makes a very good setup guy, good high leverage 00:03:33.830 --> 00:03:36.590 guy. I mean, he's efficient, 11 pitches, one 00:03:36.590 --> 00:03:39.069 strikeout, got his inning at work done. Gave 00:03:39.069 --> 00:03:41.370 it to Vest, got his inning at work done, one 00:03:41.370 --> 00:03:43.729 strikeout, 12 pitches. Both those guys at the 00:03:43.729 --> 00:03:45.530 back end make me feel a little better, at least 00:03:45.530 --> 00:03:48.650 for the time being. They have not, and Holton, 00:03:48.729 --> 00:03:51.340 Holton, obviously. Had to hold his own in this 00:03:51.340 --> 00:03:54.240 one, too, as we said. 2 -1 game. Pitching matters 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:56.659 because the bats certainly did not do it. They 00:03:56.659 --> 00:03:58.900 got a lot of hits. They got eight hits. They 00:03:58.900 --> 00:04:01.180 just could only scratch across the two runs. 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:03.240 I would like to bring something up real quick. 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:05.280 Your guy, Trey Sweeney, is back up with the big 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:09.280 league squad. Much to my chagrin. Yes. I knew 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:11.419 I wanted to get that in there. He had his net 00:04:11.419 --> 00:04:13.520 bat in game one there. Looked like he came on 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:17.220 as a pinch hitter. And I think he I don't I don't 00:04:17.220 --> 00:04:20.589 need him really on the squad right now. I'll 00:04:20.589 --> 00:04:23.610 be looking for him to be replaced at some point. 00:04:24.149 --> 00:04:26.410 I just don't see him being, there are a ton of 00:04:26.410 --> 00:04:27.910 upside with him and I think he's only up there 00:04:27.910 --> 00:04:30.509 because a couple guys are down. So we'll see 00:04:30.509 --> 00:04:32.949 what happens. You want to do game two? How do 00:04:32.949 --> 00:04:35.269 you feel? Or do you want to talk a little bit 00:04:35.269 --> 00:04:37.589 about game one still? No, I don't really want 00:04:37.589 --> 00:04:39.410 to talk about game one. But before we go to game 00:04:39.410 --> 00:04:41.610 two, let's talk a little bit about Trey Sweeney. 00:04:41.610 --> 00:04:43.810 Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. And let's talk about the 00:04:43.810 --> 00:04:47.000 injuries. And his 200 average. Yeah, and this 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:51.279 is part of what you and I discussed basically 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:54.980 the month of June and maybe even, you know, leading 00:04:54.980 --> 00:04:58.560 up to Memorial Day is that you've got a lot of 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:02.319 chips to play with in terms of you finally have 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:06.819 a good farm system. You have depth. You can do 00:05:06.819 --> 00:05:11.220 things to upgrade this. And the Dodgers knew 00:05:11.220 --> 00:05:15.660 that they were selling us a turd. When we got 00:05:15.660 --> 00:05:18.879 Trey, by the way, was sold to them by the Yankees. 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:22.759 So Trey was aware his third stop on the list 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:26.459 here. So he's a turd three times. He's a turd 00:05:26.459 --> 00:05:28.500 three times. We're being rough on him I just 00:05:28.500 --> 00:05:31.639 don't see him No, I don't know that the abilities 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:34.579 there at the plate. We'll see but it's not that 00:05:34.579 --> 00:05:36.560 Chet and he's also a little bit He's gotten a 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:38.480 little rusty on the old fielding side of things 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:42.259 too. He's so and he's been this way all season 00:05:42.259 --> 00:05:46.079 He is so slow to turn a double play. It's like 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:48.980 he waits for the ball. He never approaches it 00:05:48.980 --> 00:05:53.399 I mean we're talking literally shortstop stuff, 00:05:53.779 --> 00:05:57.639 you know? So that being said, the fact that Veerling's 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:00.139 down, that Meadows is down, I already said my 00:06:00.139 --> 00:06:04.560 piece on that last pod, in that now we've got 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:09.939 our guy, my guy, the Trey Boy up. I'm not happy. 00:06:10.220 --> 00:06:13.839 And I'm not happy as well for the fact that this 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:16.920 organization, who I am going to rip Scott Harris 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:20.180 later, just cannot seemingly figure out how to 00:06:20.180 --> 00:06:24.819 get the right nine guys up or 13 guys up at any 00:06:24.819 --> 00:06:28.100 given time. It's kind of bizarre. The talent 00:06:28.100 --> 00:06:30.800 seems to be out there to some degree or another. 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:34.220 We just can't seem to get the combo quite right 00:06:34.220 --> 00:06:36.540 on who needs to be up and who doesn't. Then again, 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:38.639 it comes down to the guy's plan. I mean, when 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:40.819 you bring them up, they got to play too. And 00:06:40.819 --> 00:06:42.759 they're expected to. They've had a history of 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:45.100 playing at times. You want to see them carry 00:06:45.100 --> 00:06:47.019 that over. They're just a couple guys just kind 00:06:47.019 --> 00:06:49.300 of coming out flat this year after what they 00:06:49.300 --> 00:06:52.060 did at the end of last season. Whoa, whoa, whoa, 00:06:52.060 --> 00:06:53.959 whoa. Can we take a step back on that? Yeah. 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:56.740 Just because Trey Sweeney is no one that has 00:06:56.740 --> 00:07:00.180 ever had a history of performing. He doesn't 00:07:00.180 --> 00:07:03.519 have much of a history at all. I mean, last season 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:06.300 was his only history and he showed a little promise 00:07:06.300 --> 00:07:09.040 there down the... down the stretch when we needed 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:12.699 a guy to do so. But he was not, he didn't even 00:07:12.699 --> 00:07:15.300 get the Parker Meadows level last season is what 00:07:15.300 --> 00:07:17.279 I say. He just showed some problems. He showed 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:19.540 some, you know, as a young player looked like 00:07:19.540 --> 00:07:22.360 he had his, had the ability to be up there. In 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:25.319 note to listeners, I was at today's game, so 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:27.920 I might be a step behind Chad on a couple of 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:31.420 these topics. No, no, no. That's, I'm never ahead. 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:33.060 So don't worry. We're probably going to be on 00:07:33.060 --> 00:07:37.139 the same speed. But. that of Meadows and Veerling, 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:42.860 you would think it would be addition by subtraction, 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:45.519 and it doesn't seem to be that just yet. So let's 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:49.439 move to game two, which might have been the worst 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:52.839 loss the Tigers have had all season. So we're 00:07:52.839 --> 00:07:54.980 going to combo a couple themes here. One of them 00:07:54.980 --> 00:07:58.569 is the inconsistency of Jack Flaherty. The helter 00:07:58.569 --> 00:08:00.829 -skelter we don't know what we're ever gonna 00:08:00.829 --> 00:08:03.569 get from him pitching in this game after he had 00:08:03.569 --> 00:08:06.370 a few Decent starts over his last couple outings 00:08:06.370 --> 00:08:08.750 and we were saying hey you said some good start 00:08:08.750 --> 00:08:10.930 Let's let's give it to Jack Flaherty comes out 00:08:10.930 --> 00:08:14.509 goes four and a third eight hits five runs a 00:08:14.509 --> 00:08:18.550 walk six case so wasn't Wild they just hit him 00:08:18.550 --> 00:08:21.389 and hit him hard to a lot of hard -hit balls 00:08:21.389 --> 00:08:25.050 by the Sox in this game, and he didn't even make 00:08:25.050 --> 00:08:27.970 it through the the fifth And you bring Herger 00:08:27.970 --> 00:08:32.110 in. Herger gives up a run. Heuer, the trade acquisition 00:08:32.110 --> 00:08:35.110 Heuer, who was just brought up recently, gave 00:08:35.110 --> 00:08:37.889 up two hits and a run. You got the two Ks. You 00:08:37.889 --> 00:08:40.330 also give up a walk in an inning and two thirds. 00:08:41.230 --> 00:08:45.490 And then your guy, my guy, Mr. Change -Up, Tommy 00:08:45.490 --> 00:08:48.830 Kenley. One and a third, two hits, two runs, 00:08:49.009 --> 00:08:51.769 two walks, two Ks. I mean, he is sprinkling it 00:08:51.769 --> 00:08:54.269 all over the place. I don't know. I don't know 00:08:54.269 --> 00:08:56.799 what to do with him at this point. Completely 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:59.340 lost as to why he keeps getting rolled out there. 00:08:59.419 --> 00:09:02.460 But here's what's problematic. This was a 9 -6 00:09:02.460 --> 00:09:05.419 game. The offense actually came back and started 00:09:05.419 --> 00:09:07.860 pounding the ball a little bit on their pen. 00:09:08.340 --> 00:09:11.299 Tyler Gilbert and Mike Vassel gave up runs later 00:09:11.299 --> 00:09:15.100 in the game. We had a chance to be in this game 00:09:15.100 --> 00:09:20.370 and our pen gave up three down the stretch. I 00:09:20.370 --> 00:09:22.590 just don't understand why we're rolling people 00:09:22.590 --> 00:09:25.190 like Canley out there who give us an inning of 00:09:25.190 --> 00:09:27.470 work and almost automatically give up a run these 00:09:27.470 --> 00:09:30.110 days. I don't know what we're waiting on him 00:09:30.110 --> 00:09:33.110 to get right with. I think it's over. The change 00:09:33.110 --> 00:09:35.610 up has to be located, and he can't, and that's 00:09:35.610 --> 00:09:40.370 really it. So I'm baffled by how often and how 00:09:40.370 --> 00:09:43.649 many chances he gets. Now, like we said, took 00:09:43.649 --> 00:09:45.710 two out of three from the Sox, won the series, 00:09:45.830 --> 00:09:48.740 but... We'd like a sweep against the Sox, being 00:09:48.740 --> 00:09:50.519 that they're in last place, right? And we need 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:52.340 to catch up some games that we've lost ground 00:09:52.340 --> 00:09:54.720 on. Anyway, maybe that's a ridiculous request. 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:57.340 Your thoughts on game two? I echo what you're 00:09:57.340 --> 00:10:01.820 saying. And for the life of me, I cannot figure 00:10:01.820 --> 00:10:04.960 out what's going on with Canalee or Canalee, 00:10:05.019 --> 00:10:08.120 however you want to pronounce it. He just cannot 00:10:08.120 --> 00:10:11.940 locate either fastball or change up, which he 00:10:11.940 --> 00:10:15.399 only has two pitches. And at this point, I am 00:10:15.450 --> 00:10:19.710 fairly certain he will not be on the 40 man. 00:10:19.789 --> 00:10:24.409 I'm wondering if he would be. Game 160, let alone 00:10:24.409 --> 00:10:28.929 game 162. I think he is in serious danger of 00:10:28.929 --> 00:10:32.110 being designated for assignment. And the only 00:10:32.110 --> 00:10:34.870 reason I can figure, which I'm sure is what you're 00:10:34.870 --> 00:10:38.570 thinking as well, is because he's a 35 year old 00:10:38.570 --> 00:10:45.049 man. He is A vested MLB veteran. He's out of 00:10:45.049 --> 00:10:48.090 options. There's nothing they can do with him. 00:10:48.090 --> 00:10:52.350 They being the Tigers. Outside of keep him up 00:10:52.350 --> 00:10:57.009 unless he gets hurt or this is a, come on, just 00:10:57.009 --> 00:10:59.970 let's have a little fun with it. Nick nicks himself 00:10:59.970 --> 00:11:05.289 in an inappropriate spot shaving. Dating for 00:11:05.289 --> 00:11:08.789 hairs to shave off. Shave something off that 00:11:08.789 --> 00:11:12.059 hasn't happened in. Here we are. So that being 00:11:12.059 --> 00:11:15.600 said, last night might have been as bad as it 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:22.240 could possibly be. As far as Flaherty goes, at 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:24.299 this point, I wish we had never resigned him. 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:27.779 I just don't know what we're getting. Like, again, 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:32.740 we go to the A, five B, five C, six, seven starter. 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:35.639 I mean, we've got a bunch of guys that probably 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:38.320 would struggle to stay in anybody's five man 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:42.259 rotation. And it's troublesome because clarity 00:11:42.259 --> 00:11:45.059 can be good. Yeah, competitive teams, sorry. 00:11:46.899 --> 00:11:50.899 Teams playing for the postseason. And we saw 00:11:50.899 --> 00:11:54.039 some good stuff at the plate in this game. I 00:11:54.039 --> 00:11:55.799 mean, Colt Keith goes two for five with three 00:11:55.799 --> 00:11:58.759 RBIs a home run. Riley Green two for four, two 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:02.259 doubles on a walk. No Ks for Riley in this game. 00:12:02.779 --> 00:12:06.279 I mean, an epic. An epic accomplishment for him 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:09.139 this season. Spencer Torkelson did K four times, 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:11.000 got the old golden sombrero, but he didn't get 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:14.620 a walk. So he did get the walk though. He threw 00:12:14.620 --> 00:12:19.139 a walk in there. So I don't know. You know, I 00:12:19.139 --> 00:12:22.059 have this theory on the four run deal. If your 00:12:22.059 --> 00:12:24.340 team plates four runs or more, the hitters did 00:12:24.340 --> 00:12:28.370 their job. If your team allows more than four 00:12:28.370 --> 00:12:30.750 runs, then the pitching defense did not do their 00:12:30.750 --> 00:12:33.289 job. That four run line for me is a big one. 00:12:33.470 --> 00:12:35.370 And if you look at stats, wins and losses, I 00:12:35.370 --> 00:12:36.789 think I brought this up earlier in the season, 00:12:37.049 --> 00:12:39.210 the percentages sway massively when you score 00:12:39.210 --> 00:12:41.250 over four runs versus when you score below four 00:12:41.250 --> 00:12:44.350 runs. So I look at the 9 -6 score here, this 00:12:44.350 --> 00:12:46.690 is a pitching failure. Okay, the offense did 00:12:46.690 --> 00:12:49.009 what the offense needed to do, and they didn't 00:12:49.009 --> 00:12:51.500 exactly do it. Late, I know they got three runs 00:12:51.500 --> 00:12:54.120 in the ninth, but either way they were going 00:12:54.120 --> 00:12:57.080 in a six three game at one point seven three 00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:59.360 game at one point They're still in striking distance 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:01.840 and then the relievers just kind of threw it 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:03.899 away in the final innings You ready to get to 00:13:03.899 --> 00:13:06.220 game three or did you have any more on that debacle? 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:09.559 I've got nothing on the debacle. Okay now for 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:13.159 the fun one Nothing better in baseball than a 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:16.210 one -nothing ballgame. It tells you so much So 00:13:16.210 --> 00:13:18.990 I did not go last night, although I was invited 00:13:18.990 --> 00:13:22.690 by a loyal listener, Adam P., and neglected to 00:13:22.690 --> 00:13:25.570 do it because the weather looked crazy for us. 00:13:25.870 --> 00:13:28.009 And we just didn't really want to go and have 00:13:28.009 --> 00:13:30.830 a seven hour outing where a game may or may not 00:13:30.830 --> 00:13:34.429 be played. Gotcha. Therefore, I punted and went 00:13:34.429 --> 00:13:37.309 down this afternoon with some neighbors and it 00:13:37.309 --> 00:13:42.269 was amazing. I love a one -nothing pitchers duel. 00:13:42.909 --> 00:13:46.029 If and only if Chet, it was that. It was not 00:13:46.029 --> 00:13:50.389 that Chet. It was no, it was no. And here's, 00:13:50.389 --> 00:13:53.029 you know how I like doing my stars kind of like 00:13:53.029 --> 00:13:56.090 National Hockey League does. Troy Melton was 00:13:56.090 --> 00:13:59.210 nothing short of frigging amazing today. I really 00:13:59.210 --> 00:14:01.409 like him. I am enjoying watching him. He is great. 00:14:01.590 --> 00:14:04.750 And I really, really, really would prefer him 00:14:04.750 --> 00:14:08.480 to be a starting pitcher going forward. Told 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:11.080 the postseason if he's got a little swing and 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:14.740 miss to happens five innings. He only allowed 00:14:14.740 --> 00:14:19.039 one hit He had six K's and then this is where 00:14:19.039 --> 00:14:22.299 the wrinkle that I didn't see coming today Sawyer 00:14:22.299 --> 00:14:25.879 Gibson long comes in Yeah came off the IL didn't 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:30.039 he got him back two innings only a lot or two 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:34.740 K's again one hit no runs And then they turn 00:14:34.740 --> 00:14:37.620 it over to what I am going to start calling the 00:14:37.620 --> 00:14:41.220 dynamic duo. Yeah. Batman and Robin. Finnegan 00:14:41.220 --> 00:14:45.480 goes in inning, allows a walk. And then Vest 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:49.159 pitches an inning, gets a K, and here we are. 00:14:49.559 --> 00:14:52.360 And here we are with a 1 -0 win. Finnegan and 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:57.019 Vest. Yep. So all my accolades go towards that 00:14:57.019 --> 00:14:59.960 side of the Tigers, meaning the pitching staff. 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:03.789 I got to be honest with you, Chet. most of these 00:15:03.789 --> 00:15:08.789 batters look befuddled, if not lost at the plate 00:15:08.789 --> 00:15:11.690 right now. And I'm just going to go through some 00:15:11.690 --> 00:15:15.750 of this just for today. Keith was 0 for 2. He 00:15:15.750 --> 00:15:21.529 did walk once, applaud. He was replaced as a 00:15:21.529 --> 00:15:27.649 pinch hitter by a Báñez who went 1 for 2. Whereas, 00:15:28.029 --> 00:15:31.159 who I We touched on this the other day. I think 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:34.639 the biggest problem right now with the Tigers 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:40.100 is that Torres used to take 10 pitches, eight 00:15:40.100 --> 00:15:43.480 at a minimum, but between eight and 12 pitches, 00:15:44.139 --> 00:15:46.940 his first at bat, if not his second at bat, if 00:15:46.940 --> 00:15:50.220 not his third at bat, and he swung at the second 00:15:50.220 --> 00:15:53.940 pitch today or the third pitch on all four of 00:15:53.940 --> 00:15:56.340 his at -bats. In the immortal words of Axl Rose, 00:15:56.600 --> 00:15:59.299 just a little patience. Yeah, we do need just 00:15:59.299 --> 00:16:00.580 a little patience. Just a little patience at 00:16:00.580 --> 00:16:04.220 the plate. Man, I, I do, I do love some pints 00:16:04.220 --> 00:16:07.460 and roses. Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm. Carp had a good 00:16:07.460 --> 00:16:10.940 game. Yeah, he was two for four, had his K's, 00:16:11.019 --> 00:16:14.519 had his K's, but nah. Torque kind of did what 00:16:14.519 --> 00:16:18.139 he did. One for four, yep. Riley Green was missing 00:16:18.139 --> 00:16:21.519 in action yet again. Yeah, he got a walk. It 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:24.919 doesn't seem to work for him when he's a DH. 00:16:25.149 --> 00:16:27.350 And I know we need to do a deeper dive in the 00:16:27.350 --> 00:16:29.710 stats. I wonder if he needs to be an involved 00:16:29.710 --> 00:16:34.570 player. The one kudo I would give today is that 00:16:34.570 --> 00:16:37.350 the Tigers walked five times today, which is 00:16:37.350 --> 00:16:41.049 amazing. The other kudo comes from my section 00:16:41.049 --> 00:16:46.210 where a girl on a date was explaining to her 00:16:46.210 --> 00:16:48.610 boyfriend, I don't know, Tinder date, whatever. 00:16:48.649 --> 00:16:50.409 I don't think they were actually boyfriend, girlfriend. 00:16:50.590 --> 00:16:54.679 Somebody swiped somewhere. And she said, Well, 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:56.980 he got her good seats. I do know that. And it 00:16:56.980 --> 00:16:58.980 was, you know, making sure that she was well 00:16:58.980 --> 00:17:02.220 fed. Well played. Yeah. And she goes, this guy 00:17:02.220 --> 00:17:05.740 has a world class mustache. Was she referring 00:17:05.740 --> 00:17:09.299 to Riley Green? No. Rogers. Jake. And then she 00:17:09.299 --> 00:17:13.140 goes, and not a whole lot else. That's fantastic. 00:17:13.319 --> 00:17:16.259 And then the what? Not a whole lot else. Then 00:17:16.259 --> 00:17:19.240 the guaranteed rate scoreboard carries a 180 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:23.359 batting average. But this is the best part. She 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:26.420 drops that bomb. And then, you know, they have 00:17:26.420 --> 00:17:29.559 like stats and I do have to give, I have to give 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:34.200 serious kudos because the statistics in what 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:38.119 they put up on the scoreboard is so much better 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:41.079 at guaranteed rate than, than it really feels. 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:44.140 Oh my God. Okay. I learned a ton today. Probably 00:17:44.140 --> 00:17:46.980 more real estate, but yeah. Well, cheaper real 00:17:46.980 --> 00:17:49.680 estate. Yeah. Anyhow, yeah, all they're doing 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:51.779 is blocking out. More scoreboard real estate, 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:53.960 but by the foot, I'm sure it's cheaper. Blocking 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:56.059 out government housing, which they should just 00:17:56.059 --> 00:18:00.200 allow those folks a free view of the bad product. 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:03.539 Anyhow, where I was going with it is the next 00:18:03.539 --> 00:18:07.059 thing that came up was, did you know Jake Rogers 00:18:07.059 --> 00:18:12.819 caught every one of 2024 Cy Young winner Tarek 00:18:12.819 --> 00:18:17.160 Scoobel's games? And her date looked at her and 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:20.019 he was like, He has some redeeming qualities 00:18:20.019 --> 00:18:24.420 outside of the mustache. Well, I like that. And 00:18:24.420 --> 00:18:26.799 by the way, Finnegan Invest, I was going to say 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:29.500 it sounds like a law firm. Finnegan Invest actually 00:18:29.500 --> 00:18:31.279 sounds like a liquor distributor or something. 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:34.220 That's that's more along those lines. Maybe it's 00:18:34.220 --> 00:18:36.640 I don't know if it's the names. Sawyer Gypsum 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:40.359 Long was having a terrible time in AAA. in his 00:18:40.359 --> 00:18:42.559 rehab starts, I was actually getting pretty afraid. 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:45.079 I was like, oh boy, he's getting hit hard down 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:47.200 in triple A. He's going to come back to us. He's 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:48.740 going to be all broken. We aren't going to be 00:18:48.740 --> 00:18:50.259 able to do anything with him. He goes, two innings, 00:18:50.359 --> 00:18:53.299 one hit, two Ks. That looks good so far. Keep 00:18:53.299 --> 00:18:56.880 that up, Sawyer. Anything else to say about this 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:00.359 wonderful one -nothing ball game or this wonderful 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:03.019 series that the Tigers ended up taking? We didn't 00:19:03.019 --> 00:19:06.359 get a sweep, but we took it. Yeah, I mean, nothing 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:10.039 other than that. Did I have a question? Did you 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:14.500 get a shower? I did not Well, here's the reason 00:19:14.500 --> 00:19:19.319 why the PA announcer when we came in said By 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:22.779 the way, did you know that we have a shower? 00:19:23.700 --> 00:19:26.099 Got in center field showed up at the shower out 00:19:26.099 --> 00:19:30.099 there. So And I'm on the knee scooter still foot. 00:19:30.099 --> 00:19:32.740 That's we have okay No, no, I scoot out there 00:19:32.740 --> 00:19:35.619 with my boys and they're like we need to see 00:19:35.619 --> 00:19:38.700 the shower We need to see the shower We go and 00:19:38.700 --> 00:19:42.519 there is a line not 80 but now like deep too 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:46.119 deep for that 1215 deep where people are just 00:19:46.119 --> 00:19:51.279 hosing themselves down in very Inglorious fashion 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:55.660 like do it. Well, hold on man Yeah, a lot of 00:19:55.660 --> 00:20:00.740 skin shown and a lot of white t -shirt that Didn't 00:20:00.740 --> 00:20:04.259 think I would ever see or want to see. Okay. 00:20:04.380 --> 00:20:06.799 Okay. Let's just say that I'm both sexes. Sure 00:20:06.759 --> 00:20:10.920 Okay, so you got to see the shower or you didn't 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:13.400 get in the shower to popular of an attraction 00:20:13.400 --> 00:20:16.480 this time around. It wasn't that. I really can't 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:21.420 get the cast wet. And I would have gone in, but 00:20:21.420 --> 00:20:25.460 when we approached, two of the fairer sex wanted 00:20:25.460 --> 00:20:28.000 to join me in the shower and I wasn't really 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:30.839 comfortable with that being posted. Let's just 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:34.210 say that. Interesting. Yeah. That's interesting. 00:20:34.809 --> 00:20:36.630 For those of you who do not know, my partner 00:20:36.630 --> 00:20:39.250 is playing injured over the last month or so 00:20:39.250 --> 00:20:42.069 and doing a remarkable job. At times medicated, 00:20:42.069 --> 00:20:44.529 at times not. We're going on a little surgery. 00:20:44.730 --> 00:20:46.630 It'll be eight weeks, not just a little. Eight 00:20:46.630 --> 00:20:48.470 weeks? Has it been eight weeks? It'll be eight 00:20:48.470 --> 00:20:51.950 weeks next Thursday. I can't believe that I hadn't 00:20:51.950 --> 00:20:54.230 taken in that it's been eight weeks and not one 00:20:54.230 --> 00:20:57.009 month. This is something my wife would lecture 00:20:57.009 --> 00:20:58.730 me for. Like, you don't pay attention to me. 00:20:58.730 --> 00:21:00.150 No, it's not that. I would still say I'm batting 00:21:00.150 --> 00:21:03.589 like... I don't know, at least 280. 280. You're 00:21:03.589 --> 00:21:09.369 betting 295 right now. Whoa, that's high. 295. 00:21:09.430 --> 00:21:12.670 You're almost 300 hitter at this point. So at 00:21:12.670 --> 00:21:15.450 any rate, you had a good time at guaranteed rate. 00:21:16.509 --> 00:21:18.410 You didn't do the shower. Did you eat anything? 00:21:19.049 --> 00:21:22.369 Of course I did. How much did you stuff in your 00:21:22.369 --> 00:21:26.349 pie hole? This is cumulative, okay? So I've got 00:21:26.349 --> 00:21:31.480 neighbors with me. Come on. I've got all sorts 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:33.380 of stories to tell and I just kind of want you 00:21:33.380 --> 00:21:38.519 to dictate this. Today's attendance was 13 ,647 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:41.559 according to what I'm reading right now on MLB. 00:21:41.829 --> 00:21:45.670 Okay of that I would guess easily four to five 00:21:45.670 --> 00:21:48.490 thousand of those were tiger fans And that is 00:21:48.490 --> 00:21:51.430 not an uncommon occurrence quarter tiger fans 00:21:51.430 --> 00:21:55.109 at the cell guaranteed rate Yeah, yeah a solid 00:21:55.109 --> 00:21:57.130 that's about right. That sounds a lot of Detroiters 00:21:57.130 --> 00:21:59.849 in Chicago And a lot of people making the road 00:21:59.849 --> 00:22:02.410 trip because it's an easy it's an easy, you know 00:22:02.410 --> 00:22:05.730 right off 94 Anyhow where I was gonna go with 00:22:05.730 --> 00:22:10.789 this food and I've got glorious things to share 00:22:10.789 --> 00:22:14.529 with you. Please do. People next to us said you 00:22:14.529 --> 00:22:20.349 have to try the chicken. Okay, hold on. They're 00:22:20.349 --> 00:22:24.670 bar or a buffalo wing, but like no wing. It's 00:22:24.670 --> 00:22:26.869 like those boneless wings. Yeah, like a boneless 00:22:26.869 --> 00:22:31.470 wing. Over waffle fries drizzled in either blue 00:22:31.470 --> 00:22:34.690 cheese or ranch. I feel like ballparks are trying 00:22:34.690 --> 00:22:36.839 to give people a heart attack. It's like the 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:39.859 guy is pulling together the culinary experience 00:22:39.859 --> 00:22:43.000 of saying, how do we clog an artery? Exactly. 00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:49.059 How do we do this? So I said, buy one, I'll pay 00:22:49.059 --> 00:22:51.640 for the other six of us, meaning the people next 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:54.960 to us, you know, we'll share two of them. Is 00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:58.059 that cool? And he was like, Hondo. And he was 00:22:58.059 --> 00:22:59.619 like, do you want to just give me your card? 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:02.519 And I was like, Sure. And then I was like, I 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:04.380 thought better of it. And I was like, how about 00:23:04.380 --> 00:23:06.339 this? I'll just get drinks. And he was like, 00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:09.339 perfect. We couldn't finish both of them. It 00:23:09.339 --> 00:23:12.480 was just a greasy. Couldn't finish both. Over 00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:15.000 six people. You got two portions of this. It 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:19.680 was a greasy, nasty mess. So picture boneless 00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:23.500 wings from like a BW3 or Buffalo Wild Wings or 00:23:23.500 --> 00:23:26.859 whatever you call that place. Or Wing Stop. Some 00:23:26.859 --> 00:23:29.839 mass produced wing joint, basically. Gordon food 00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:33.740 service. I'm sure okay sitting in just marinating 00:23:33.740 --> 00:23:37.839 its own its own oil vile juices and oils and 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:40.779 then slapping it on top of some waffle fries 00:23:40.779 --> 00:23:44.500 that are also marinating and just festering in 00:23:44.500 --> 00:23:49.099 their own juices Chet was each bite was just 00:23:49.099 --> 00:23:52.400 like a sodium bomb in no flavor. No nothing. 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:56.589 It was terrible. So we At one point, were you 00:23:56.589 --> 00:23:57.970 eating and you just felt like you're coating 00:23:57.970 --> 00:24:00.329 your mouth with baby oil or something all around 00:24:00.329 --> 00:24:03.230 it, just cooking grease? Just dripping off of 00:24:03.230 --> 00:24:04.630 your mouth. No, on the baby oil, but that's a 00:24:04.630 --> 00:24:07.630 great visual for the listeners. Thank you. Yeah. 00:24:07.750 --> 00:24:09.349 No, I had two bites. That's why I eat stuff like 00:24:09.349 --> 00:24:11.109 that. I feel like I'm just lacquering my face 00:24:11.109 --> 00:24:14.269 in oils. I had two bites and said, peace out, 00:24:14.710 --> 00:24:19.529 and excused myself to use the men's room and 00:24:19.529 --> 00:24:23.309 came back with what was a big winner, beggars 00:24:23.309 --> 00:24:29.279 pizza. Their, their, their tagline is they lay 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:33.960 it even more healthy. They lay it on thick chat 00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:39.519 chat. It was, they lay it on thick. It was, I'm 00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:43.420 telling you if, if the, I don't know what we 00:24:43.420 --> 00:24:47.000 call it. Only rivaled by Olympia beer. It's the 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:49.619 water. It's the only other tagline that I could 00:24:49.619 --> 00:24:50.880 think of. You know what we need to call the previous 00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:53.420 thing is south side poutine. Side poutine, is 00:24:53.420 --> 00:24:55.420 that what it is? Is that what the boneless wings 00:24:55.420 --> 00:24:58.819 on waffles are? So south side poutine. Side poutine. 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:01.599 Okay. All right. The south side poutine, if that 00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:04.160 won't get you, guess what will? Beggar's banquet 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:08.240 pizza or whatever? Beggar's pizza or a Polish. 00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:13.519 I mean, I, so I brought back four slices, which 00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:16.740 should be a whole pie, right? I mean, $32, no 00:25:16.740 --> 00:25:20.180 big deal. And I had them, I asked if you could 00:25:20.180 --> 00:25:22.759 kind of cut them into eighths, you know, just 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:25.880 so we could share. And I got cheese, pepperoni, 00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:29.319 sausage, sassage, as they say on the South side. 00:25:29.420 --> 00:25:33.799 It was fine. When they say they lay it on thick. 00:25:35.099 --> 00:25:39.480 Is it just the cheese? Imagine ordering, and 00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:41.599 you might, this is a Detroit reference for us 00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:44.299 all. Do you remember like, ordering Little Caesar's 00:25:44.299 --> 00:25:47.319 when we were little and you could get extra cheese 00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.980 and it was like really like a cheese bomb. I 00:25:49.980 --> 00:25:52.440 mean, it was like almost the bread was hiding 00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:55.299 basically. It just wasn't even. Yeah. Okay. That 00:25:55.299 --> 00:25:58.319 is what a standard slice is from beggars pizza. 00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:02.180 I'm going to say that you're lucky. Your arteries 00:26:02.180 --> 00:26:04.880 are still pumping blood through them and functioning 00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:08.700 as they should be. Thank you. I'm glad you didn't 00:26:08.700 --> 00:26:10.960 need any more of the South side poutine. That 00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:13.759 would have been bad. I have one more item for 00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:17.059 you. You had another item? I'm sweating thinking 00:26:17.059 --> 00:26:19.740 about this. Go on. Well, and you accused me of 00:26:19.740 --> 00:26:22.140 sweating down there. Was it the pork chop sandwich? 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:24.240 Did you go for the pork chop sandwich? No, no, 00:26:24.380 --> 00:26:26.079 no, no, no, no. Come on. We were going to get 00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:27.420 a pork chop sandwich. We already talked about 00:26:27.420 --> 00:26:32.859 that. They've got this Korean mashup or... Why 00:26:32.859 --> 00:26:36.559 wouldn't they? And it's like a waffle, but not 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:39.400 like chicken and waffle. It's more like a... 00:26:40.180 --> 00:26:42.799 savory waffle, which I've never had a savory 00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:45.099 waffle. I've had savory pancakes, I've never 00:26:45.099 --> 00:26:48.880 had a savory waffle. Interesting. With, again, 00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:52.640 more fried nuggets between it. Either shrimp 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:57.400 or chicken. You don't eat shrimp at the ballpark, 00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:59.980 not at guaranteed rate. You're not getting shellfish 00:26:59.980 --> 00:27:03.200 at guaranteed rate. You don't eat shrimp south 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:06.440 of Chinatown in Chicago. I wouldn't eat shrimp 00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:08.819 at guaranteed rate field if you paid me to eat 00:27:08.819 --> 00:27:11.750 the shrimp. Well, no offense to the chef and 00:27:11.750 --> 00:27:13.950 the culinary staff at guaranteed rate, but I'm 00:27:13.950 --> 00:27:17.730 not putting any, no, no seafood from you guys 00:27:17.730 --> 00:27:21.210 in my mouth. I'm sorry. So I have two that was 00:27:21.210 --> 00:27:24.470 disgusting. I literally tore a piece of the savory 00:27:24.470 --> 00:27:27.630 waffle, had a piece of chicken that tasted almost 00:27:27.630 --> 00:27:31.470 identical, even though it was a Korean Kapow 00:27:31.470 --> 00:27:34.920 sauce or something like that. Okay. It tasted 00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:38.880 virtually identical to what we got on the waffle 00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:43.440 fries. So a big zero for food today, except for 00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:46.180 I have one really, really interesting nugget, 00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:49.380 no pun intended. Guess what's on draft at Beggar's 00:27:49.380 --> 00:27:52.359 Pizza? What's that? That you would associate 00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:54.759 with Chicago, but never with the South Side. 00:27:54.839 --> 00:27:57.920 That would be old style. I kind of feel like 00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:00.279 it's still an old, I feel like it might still 00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:02.559 be a South Side beer. I know that it's big for 00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:05.910 the Cubs. on the north side, but I feel like 00:28:05.910 --> 00:28:09.430 I've seen old style signs and whatnot on bars 00:28:09.430 --> 00:28:13.950 on the south side before. So in my beer, right? 00:28:14.230 --> 00:28:16.890 Yeah. I mean, they had to package this in a pizza 00:28:16.890 --> 00:28:18.910 container for me. And then they gave me like 00:28:18.910 --> 00:28:22.210 a little carrier case. They only sell you two 00:28:22.210 --> 00:28:24.930 beers. So I put them over one of my handlebars 00:28:24.930 --> 00:28:28.430 on my knee scooter and brought them back. And 00:28:28.430 --> 00:28:31.210 my boys from the neighborhood were going nuts 00:28:31.210 --> 00:28:33.730 over the fact. Where'd you get the old style? 00:28:33.849 --> 00:28:36.069 Where do we get more old style? And then our 00:28:36.069 --> 00:28:38.549 new neighbors and then the new new neighbors 00:28:38.549 --> 00:28:40.710 on the other side, there's only eight people 00:28:40.710 --> 00:28:44.410 in a row in the good seats. Well, there's 15 00:28:44.410 --> 00:28:46.049 ,000 people there. It makes it sound like you 00:28:46.049 --> 00:28:47.670 guys had like your own little neighborhood out 00:28:47.670 --> 00:28:51.789 there. I make friends. I try. Anyhow, we had 00:28:51.789 --> 00:28:55.309 two old styles thereafter and everybody was real 00:28:55.309 --> 00:28:58.089 happy with that. That is my food review. I've 00:28:58.089 --> 00:29:00.150 got nothing more for you. You've done an incredible 00:29:00.150 --> 00:29:02.150 job reporting from guaranteed rate field this 00:29:02.150 --> 00:29:05.190 season. Yeah. I might add. Thank you. Very detailed 00:29:05.190 --> 00:29:08.549 reports. It's been sensational. We've got the 00:29:08.549 --> 00:29:11.329 twins coming to town. I am locked up for the 00:29:11.329 --> 00:29:13.569 weekend plans wise. I want to go so bad tomorrow 00:29:13.569 --> 00:29:15.150 night. I don't think I'm going to get to go see 00:29:15.150 --> 00:29:18.440 Scoble pitch. I feel really down about it. I've 00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:20.579 got all sorts of chaos going on and I cannot 00:29:20.579 --> 00:29:23.700 just get away for that long to go down and see 00:29:23.700 --> 00:29:26.400 a ball game at this point. I got four shots at 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:27.720 it and I'm not going to make it unless something 00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:30.599 crazy happens in the last minute. Maybe never, 00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:32.500 you know, I won't hold it. I'm not holding out 00:29:32.500 --> 00:29:35.160 hope, but we'll see either way. This is kind 00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:37.799 of an important four game set. I don't see if 00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:40.960 your co -host just drops in out of the blue. 00:29:41.579 --> 00:29:44.000 Well, you can if you want to knee scooter and 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.990 all we'll get you down there. get some sort of 00:29:46.990 --> 00:29:49.490 seeding for you and everything. ADA seeding is 00:29:49.490 --> 00:29:51.190 the way to go. I mean, if you make it all the 00:29:51.190 --> 00:29:53.250 way from Chicago to Minneapolis, I'll make it 00:29:53.250 --> 00:29:56.269 from my house to the ballpark. One way or the 00:29:56.269 --> 00:29:59.190 other, I'll clip my other plans. But did you 00:29:59.190 --> 00:30:03.009 see in the news this past week, Byron Buxton, 00:30:03.269 --> 00:30:06.089 post -trade deadline, apparently told like six 00:30:06.089 --> 00:30:08.990 teams, no go. Like people were coming after him 00:30:08.990 --> 00:30:10.789 wanting to trade for him. He said no, he's got 00:30:10.789 --> 00:30:13.210 a big no trade clause He's like I'm here. I want 00:30:13.210 --> 00:30:15.369 to be in Minnesota He came out give a big speech 00:30:15.369 --> 00:30:17.509 to the team had like a team dinner while they 00:30:17.509 --> 00:30:19.250 were in Cleveland and basically said like guys 00:30:19.250 --> 00:30:21.150 We got to get our horses and start playing with 00:30:21.150 --> 00:30:23.609 some pride. Everybody's going crazy for Byron 00:30:23.609 --> 00:30:27.049 right now. He's mr. Twin He's showing leadership 00:30:27.049 --> 00:30:29.250 trying to pull the team together and rally him 00:30:29.250 --> 00:30:31.250 Apparently they're gonna have like some standing 00:30:31.250 --> 00:30:34.839 ovation for Byron Buxton I believe it's going 00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:36.599 to be day after tomorrow, so it'll be Friday. 00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:37.859 They're not going to do it during the school 00:30:37.859 --> 00:30:40.940 game because school's probably going to shut 00:30:40.940 --> 00:30:42.460 them down, but they'll do it Friday when they 00:30:42.460 --> 00:30:44.359 go against somebody else, probably Mize or whoever. 00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:47.059 And I think that's kind of cool, kind of cool 00:30:47.059 --> 00:30:49.420 story. A guy that actually wants to be somewhere 00:30:49.420 --> 00:30:51.299 playing, doesn't want to get traded away, wants 00:30:51.299 --> 00:30:53.700 to make things right and get things better. Second 00:30:53.700 --> 00:30:56.279 bit of news out of Minnesota, the pole ads are 00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:00.099 not selling off the team, only giving away some 00:31:00.099 --> 00:31:02.980 minority stake of it. I'm not shocked by that 00:31:02.980 --> 00:31:06.839 at all. They get a little help cash wise. They 00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:09.460 keep control of the squad. Now we'll see what 00:31:09.460 --> 00:31:11.380 it does for the team going forward and if they're 00:31:11.380 --> 00:31:13.700 going to provide any competition for the Tigers 00:31:13.700 --> 00:31:17.059 in the division. Any thoughts, Bill, on the Twins 00:31:17.059 --> 00:31:19.759 Tigers series coming up? Yeah, I have a lot of 00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:22.119 thoughts on this just because I read the same 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:24.279 news that you did and I do have a Byron Buxton 00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:27.200 story if I can share it either now or post. Please 00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:30.640 do. Well, no, no, let me just do the business 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:35.089 news. I think they were smart to avoid the Justin 00:31:35.089 --> 00:31:39.769 Nishbia money. Probably. And I think they still 00:31:39.769 --> 00:31:43.309 want to be controlling owners. Attendance is 00:31:43.309 --> 00:31:46.710 the worst it's been in, is it 12 years or 13 00:31:46.710 --> 00:31:50.230 years since Target Field's opened? So they've 00:31:50.230 --> 00:31:54.710 fallen into a rut and here's the deal. And I 00:31:54.710 --> 00:31:58.589 know you've lived there. There are two cities 00:31:58.589 --> 00:32:03.490 that I identify with. is sports deserts, meaning 00:32:03.490 --> 00:32:07.150 championships that don't happen. One is the Twin 00:32:07.150 --> 00:32:10.069 Cities, the other is Atlanta. Outside of that, 00:32:10.410 --> 00:32:12.329 most other cities seem to have their day in the 00:32:12.329 --> 00:32:16.940 sun with four or three major sports. I'm not 00:32:16.940 --> 00:32:19.380 talking about like a Nashville that's like new 00:32:19.380 --> 00:32:21.779 to it. You know what I'm saying? But most others 00:32:21.779 --> 00:32:24.619 have had some type of something in the last 30 00:32:24.619 --> 00:32:26.359 years is what you're saying. I mean, Atlanta, 00:32:26.619 --> 00:32:29.559 the late nineties, obviously and baseball, but 00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:33.660 yeah, they have the Falcons are the I mean, they're 00:32:33.660 --> 00:32:36.220 a desert, you know, Hawks, Falcons, whatever. 00:32:36.380 --> 00:32:40.900 Yeah, sure. They can't keep a NHL team. So kudos 00:32:40.900 --> 00:32:44.190 to anyway, where I was going with this is It's 00:32:44.190 --> 00:32:47.730 good that they're infusing new blood, new money 00:32:47.730 --> 00:32:50.150 and new ideas. I think a lot of people were hoping 00:32:50.150 --> 00:32:51.829 they'd sell because they haven't done anything. 00:32:52.049 --> 00:32:54.529 So it's like, but the key thing is still a little 00:32:54.529 --> 00:32:58.009 disappointed. The key thing I read was new ideas. 00:32:58.490 --> 00:33:02.029 Yeah. And new ways to market the team, new ways 00:33:02.029 --> 00:33:06.170 to approach it. I am one that it doesn't, it's 00:33:06.170 --> 00:33:09.410 either five or six on my ballpark list. Okay. 00:33:09.509 --> 00:33:13.289 Target field. Yeah. Meaning top. It's amazing. 00:33:13.289 --> 00:33:15.529 It's a great experience. It's a great experience. 00:33:15.609 --> 00:33:19.349 You and I went and I had a great time. And what 00:33:19.349 --> 00:33:22.069 I was going to say to this is, or we had a great 00:33:22.069 --> 00:33:25.750 time, is that there's no reason they should be 00:33:25.750 --> 00:33:29.670 where they're at. And this is what's really more 00:33:29.670 --> 00:33:32.990 frustrating coming back to the Tigers on the 00:33:32.990 --> 00:33:35.150 fact that they just didn't go for the jugular 00:33:35.150 --> 00:33:39.470 because you've got the White Sox in a place of 00:33:39.470 --> 00:33:43.599 rebuilding. You've got the guardians who clearly 00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.980 will only develop from within and not spend money. 00:33:47.220 --> 00:33:50.539 The Royals are trying to seek a new stadium. 00:33:50.819 --> 00:33:53.160 They were buyers, but they're not really that 00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:57.259 close to anything. Right? Yeah. And so really 00:33:57.259 --> 00:33:59.339 the division comes down to you and the twins. 00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:03.180 And that's what frustrates me about the guess 00:34:03.180 --> 00:34:05.720 who the Tigers trading partner, the first trading 00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:09.130 partner was the twins. I know, I know. So Tiger's 00:34:09.130 --> 00:34:11.010 twins. It's and it's going to kind of come. I 00:34:11.010 --> 00:34:12.849 don't know. Cleveland's going to have a lot to 00:34:12.849 --> 00:34:14.369 say about this, right? They're going to have 00:34:14.369 --> 00:34:16.190 everything to say. Cleveland just Cleveland could 00:34:16.190 --> 00:34:18.530 trade half their team and still somehow compete. 00:34:18.650 --> 00:34:20.650 It's like a magical thing. Something coming out 00:34:20.650 --> 00:34:23.949 of the Lake Erie. I have no idea. It's definitely 00:34:23.949 --> 00:34:26.590 got to be Lake Erie water. I think it is. Yeah. 00:34:26.849 --> 00:34:29.429 All right. Byron Buxton story. He spoke at the 00:34:29.429 --> 00:34:32.300 kids. Montessori School when we lived in Cedar 00:34:32.300 --> 00:34:36.420 Rapids, Iowa, when he was a single A Cedar Rapids 00:34:36.420 --> 00:34:42.380 Colonel. Okay. And my son, who was four at the 00:34:42.380 --> 00:34:46.059 time. Yeah. Grady raised his hand and was like, 00:34:46.260 --> 00:34:50.159 do you like beer? To which Byron Buxton flummoxed, 00:34:50.340 --> 00:34:53.840 said, sure. I do like beer. He's like, great. 00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:55.800 My dad owns a brewery. You should go see it. 00:34:55.900 --> 00:34:59.980 Did he ever show up? Yes. He showed up. Fantastic 00:34:59.980 --> 00:35:02.440 Byron Buxton might be my favorite player of all 00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:06.059 time because he dropped like and he showed up 00:35:06.059 --> 00:35:09.280 Stupid money too. I mean meaning like he bought 00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:13.940 shirts swag Great stuff to go and I literally 00:35:13.940 --> 00:35:17.139 forwarded it all to my youngest. So that's it 00:35:17.139 --> 00:35:19.780 Nothing more. Nothing less. He did the marketing 00:35:19.780 --> 00:35:24.000 for you. All I can say is I hope The twins build 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.900 around him because I he's a keeper. He's a guy 00:35:26.900 --> 00:35:28.960 to like, right? He's a player to like. Yeah. 00:35:29.659 --> 00:35:32.079 And so he's got to stay healthy. Can I just one 00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.900 last thought? I was looking at all the Riley 00:35:34.900 --> 00:35:38.719 Green stats today and they did one that said 00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:42.460 he was the Tigers rookie of the year in 2022. 00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:47.739 He was also their MVP. And so I did a quick Google 00:35:47.739 --> 00:35:49.960 search. Do you know the only other time that's 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.239 happened in Tiger's history? I'm gonna go with 00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.059 either Al Kaline. You got it. Is that the one 00:35:55.059 --> 00:35:59.619 I got on first guess? Yeah. Yeah. And I just, 00:35:59.940 --> 00:36:02.179 because a lot of our listeners are like, hey, 00:36:02.179 --> 00:36:05.119 I'm impatient with Green. Here's the deal with 00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:08.280 Green. Right now, this should be his rookie season 00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:11.400 by most metrics, or last year should have been 00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:15.260 his rookie season. Okay. Right? He's 24 years 00:36:15.260 --> 00:36:18.559 old. Yeah. Most guys aren't hitting the major 00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:21.519 leagues at this point. And I just would say, 00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.480 let's exhale on it. I'm not saying he's gonna... 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:26.119 I agree. I agree with you. I was trying to get 00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:28.420 that out in the last pilot. Okay. He's working 00:36:28.420 --> 00:36:30.420 on it. He's a guy I'm just, I'm starting to cheer 00:36:30.420 --> 00:36:32.519 for. He's working on it. He'll get there. He's 00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:34.079 going to come around. He's got an awkward swinging, 00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:36.820 you know, he's got that angle. He's got the uppercut 00:36:36.820 --> 00:36:39.360 swing and it's going to, that's going to... It's 00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:41.400 gonna cause a few K's here and there, but I think 00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:44.099 he's gonna be okay. Talented enough, and I'm 00:36:44.099 --> 00:36:45.400 definitely pulling for him to pull it around. 00:36:45.539 --> 00:36:48.019 I don't have anything else, but let's go Tigers. 00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:51.900 Let's... Let's get some wins against the twins. 00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.380 How's that? We gotta pay him back for that last 00:36:54.380 --> 00:36:56.400 series. That's a good t -shirt slogan there. 00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:59.739 Bumper sticker. I don't think I'll get very far 00:36:59.739 --> 00:37:02.460 wearing around here, but... Yeah, we got to pay 00:37:02.460 --> 00:37:04.619 him back for that last series. We got smoked 00:37:04.619 --> 00:37:07.000 and it kind of took the wind out of the sails 00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:08.659 a little bit there. So we owe him some games 00:37:08.659 --> 00:37:11.099 here. Folks, we'll be back after the four game 00:37:11.099 --> 00:37:15.139 set. Enjoy your weekends. Enjoy the Tigers twin 00:37:15.139 --> 00:37:18.619 series or whatever you're getting into this weekend. 00:37:19.179 --> 00:37:29.329 Thanks. We'll talk soon. All right. That's gonna 00:37:29.329 --> 00:37:31.829 do it for this episode of the Litterbox, a Detroit 00:37:31.829 --> 00:37:34.570 Tigers podcast. Thanks for hanging out with us. 00:37:34.789 --> 00:37:36.809 We're Bill and Chet. We'll be back soon with 00:37:36.809 --> 00:37:39.630 more Tigers Talk. If you're enjoying the show, 00:37:39.909 --> 00:37:42.889 be sure to follow or subscribe on Spotify, Apple 00:37:42.889 --> 00:37:45.769 Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 00:37:46.230 --> 00:37:48.650 And hey, if you got a minute, leave us a quick 00:37:48.650 --> 00:37:51.889 review. Till next time, go Tigers!