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We are starting part two of lover stalker killer

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Here's the thing Always research them body I

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Know I know I know it takes time and when you

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met that person it's so magical But don't go

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to their house on the first night Or the second

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night or the third night or the fourth night

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or the fifth night investigate that motherfucker

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it just might save your life if he doesn't have

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a criminal history he might be planning wrong

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with the third party and the third party can

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kill your ass if they're crazy enough so pay

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attention and listen to part two it might save

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you some chaos in your life And the texts keep

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coming You are fucking whore Liz and then the

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man says he felt like Liz was being harassed

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because he dated this other woman Remember Liz

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is the first one he met and He told her he was

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not looking for anything serious and then came

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along this other woman who told him she was not

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looking for anything serious and this other woman

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started harassing Liz doing all this crazy shit

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if you're lost go back to part one honey you

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won't regret this so this other woman was telling

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Liz she's a homewrecker and She's a whore This

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is the same woman who told the man that she didn't

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want anything serious and they were only dating

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for two weeks Are you listening? Are you listening?

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Listen after Dave broke up with Liz After the

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second woman starts harassing Liz Liz went to

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Dave for comfort And because she was scared,

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Dave said he felt like he needed to protect Liz.

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And they rekindled their relationship. Begin

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putting the parts together. Connect the dots,

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people. By the way, they're kissing in front

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of the big window. With the blinds open and no

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curtains. I Don't know what some of y 'all do

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this I Used to do it when I was young 21 have

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my first apartment. I used to have sheer curtains

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I never left my blinds open, but I didn't realize

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you can actually see through sheer curtains.

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I Put some sheets up there and the next week

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I couldn't afford to go buy anything the next

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day the next week I wouldn't bought some blackout

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curtains so they're kissing in front of the window

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where everybody can see like come on now and

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they know this person is stalking them so Amy

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is Day's ex -partner like I mentioned before

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They have a few kids and the kids go over Dave's

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house on the weekends. Now at this point Liz

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and Dave are living together. Are you confused

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enough? I sure was until I had to like listen

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to it again and sort back and you know do the

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pegs and all that crap. So the kids are aware

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of what was going on. kudos to Amy because after

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the kids told her about the vandalization vandalization

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vandalizing whatever in the text message and

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the harassment Amy put her foot down and said

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no if you want to see the kids come to my house

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damn it you won't have my kids going through

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all that shitty chaos I don't know if Dave even

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told her the kids had to tell her like what a

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dumbass Anyway... This bitch is crazy. Anyway,

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Dave gets a call from Liz while he is at work.

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He comes home and he sees a window smashed out.

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With the message on the wall or something, go

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away whore. I have nothing else to say after

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that. Let's continue. so the message was written

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in red lipstick and on his bed he saw a lot of

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Liz's clothes had been slashed up and coming

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from his quote they've been slashed up in a murdering

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ring style like a lot of her clothes has been

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slashed he's showing pictures like hmm so he's

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protecting Liz The woman he met briefly Before

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he met Carrie but candy whatever her name But

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he he's protecting Liz While his kids are in

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like involved But he's so worried about protecting

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Liz that He's not even thinking about how is

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it affecting his kids Put Liz's ass out and allow

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your kids to come over. Like, come on. Liz was

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there when Carrie broke in. Would Liz have actually

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gotten stabbed? Now, Liz is looking out the window.

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This is a real threat. This isn't bullshit. With

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no curtains, and she's that damn scared of Carrie.

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Now Carrie is sending messages. She will die.

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No one can stop me. You can see Liz, big as day,

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looking out the windows. With no curtains. Alright

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people, are you putting this together? Are you

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putting this together? So the investigator, he

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had probable cause to arrest Carrie. He had a

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warrant, but he could not serve her because he

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couldn't find her. So, according to Dave, this

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has been going on for over a year. He's been

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going out to dinner with his kids and he would

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get random messages while he was out with his

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kids saying, I know where you are. I know what

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restaurant you're at. Is the food good? Not only

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is the stalker stalking Liz, but she's fucking

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with Dave and his kids. These people are very

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dangerous. They don't care who it affects. They

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would go after your whole family if need be.

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So Carrie sends a message to Dave. I can get

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in the door. I mean, I can get in the building.

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I put my ear up against the door and I hear what

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you're saying at all times. And the police...

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still can't find her even though she lives a

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couple blocks from day's work no trace nothing

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so if you send a message I am watching you and

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the way they are doing this in this show is so

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creepy they show a person in all black with a

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black hoodie on Standing in front of his peephole

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and then walking off So Dave is stressing out

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now He spends more and more time at the bar.

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He had a drink just to take the edge off But

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he is losing it, baby He is losing it Hmm But

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I tell you about those threesomes those secret

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threesomes he let somebody into his life, but

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not knowing if the other chick is crazy and if

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people are going to be harmed around this action.

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somebody pouring gasoline all over a house and

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lighting on fire with a match. So Carrie sent

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a message to Dave and said, I set that fucking

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whore's house on fire. I hope the whore and her

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kids die in it. Now how crazy is that? So Dave

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leaves the bar, rushes over to Liz's house, and

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is engulfed. Like... It's engulfed. Hopefully,

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there was no kids in that house. They pullin'

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out Dernie's, the ambulance. Now Liz is lookin'

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at her house on fire. Now Dave's comfortin' her.

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She put her head on his... on his chest okay

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all of Liz's pets died she had this adorable

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German Shepherd the kind of dog I have they're

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so loving she had a snake and I think two cats

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so whoever Liz's house was on fire house on fire

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is beyond crazy I hope y 'all paying close attention

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to this. The ending is gonna be shocking. These

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have lost everything she owns. Now she's homeless.

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Now Liz is talking to a defiant investigator,

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right? And he's asking what causes this and she's

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telling him that Carrie, the woman who's been

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dating for two weeks, has been threatening and

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talking to her, right? Now she says, what about

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my animals? I know they're all dead. Then the

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investigator says, The Humane Society is going

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to take care of the animals. Sorry. The Humane

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Society is going to take care of the animals.

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Sorry. I just wish we could go back. So after

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the fire Liz took what belongs she had and moved.

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She didn't tell Dave where she moved because

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obviously she didn't want Carrie to come after

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her. blame her one bit. She did not want Terry

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to come along after her. At that point, I felt

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alone. I didn't know whether to be mad or sad

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or cry. I had lost my partner or the one person

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who understood what I was going through. Yeah,

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he said she was still out there. Is she alive

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or dead? And Carrie is the one who's supposedly

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been stalking Liz, setting Liz's house on fire,

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threatening to kill Liz and her kids. But the

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police can't find her anywhere. So all of a sudden

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Liz packs up a move. Hmm, okay. agency. So two

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years earlier, I'd heard that there's another

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couple of detectives looking into somebody named

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Perry Farmer as a missing person. I'd heard that

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she was a single mom that kind of just vanished.

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Nobody had physically seen her, but she was still

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communicating, getting emails and text messages.

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At the same time, the detective from Omaha Police

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Department had been investigating arson and harassment.

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and vandalism, but after a long time the case

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had kind of gone cold for the investigators that

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were looking into it. This is Carrie's mother,

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Nancy. So after the case had gone cold, two detectives

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went to their boss and asked if they can take

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the case over because it intrigued them a bit

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much. The boss said, yeah. So they went and talked

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to Carrie Farber's mother, Nancy, and this is

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what you hear. Nancy Tell, the new detective.

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Grandma, there's probably some things she didn't

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tell me, but I had some things that I didn't

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tell my mother, but she'd always call home. I

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couldn't make sense of it, and that's when we

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reported her missing. I first got involved in

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the case. I got involved because it sounded interesting.

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Once I met Nancy, it turned for me. I wanted

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to get her answers. Because it sounded interesting.

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Once I met Nancy, it turned for me. I wanted

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to get her answers. Looking through the case

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file, The original reports noted that Carrie

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had a history of bipolar disorder. So get this.

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Dave met Carrie at his mechanic shop, right?

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They didn't hit it off then, but when he was

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online on his profile, he saw her picture. He

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sent her message and said hey, I know you she

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said yeah you do Then that's when they start

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going out She lived to help two blocks away from

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his work and she starts spending night at his

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house Not knowing she had this bipolar order.

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I mean bipolar Symptom And she wasn't taking

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her medication is an example of why you should

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look people up and or get to know them before

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you start sleeping with them, before you let

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them at your house, around your kids. Man, I

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believe most of us have done that and we're lucky

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to be still living and breathing but take the

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time to investigate and take your time inviting

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people over your house so after Dave moved to

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Nebraska Liz was on a picture so he says and

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he wanted to start dating again so he hops on

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Nebraska dead insights here we go again here

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we go again Dave Hold your horses and take some

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time out. So he moved away from his kids That's

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just that just dawned on me He moved away from

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his kids at first. He was trying to protect Liz

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a person he known for a hot minute from Carrie

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a person He'd been sleeping with for two weeks

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after he's known her for a hot minute And you

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move away from your kids after you put them in

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danger. Okay. Punk rocker chick The person who

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he messages punk rocker chick, I think she was

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29 So he set up a date He went to the restaurant

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waiting for her listening this get the message

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punk rocker chick says I'm coming I'm running

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a little late so he sat there longer than an

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hour more sit there sit there now it's raining

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and thundering you sit there and sit there is

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he desperate about the time He decides that she's

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not coming. Maybe two hours he's been sitting

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there. She sends another message and guess what

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the message said. This is Carrie. Mmm, baby.

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This is Carrie. Fuck you. That's what the message

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said. Told you. Now, Carrie is targeting Dave's

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ex, Amy, with the two kids that he moved away

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from. Now he's in Nebraska. I think she still

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lives in Iowa. Now Carrie is targeting her. Is

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it Carrie? Is it Liz? Is it Dave? Is it somebody

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else? Stay tuned to find out. So Common Sense

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will tell you that it may not be Carrie because

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the detectives can't find her. She lived two

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blocks away from Day's work. She hasn't gone

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to work. Her mother hasn't heard from her. Now

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the stalker says, I'm going to cut Amy's throat.

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Wait till I slit her throat. And Amy... is a

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mother of his two kids. If I can get rid of you,

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I would. So how the hell did she get Amy's number?

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Like... I know phone numbers are easy to get,

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but how she know Amy's name, Amy's full like...

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This bitch is crazy. Off she has time. For is

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a stock people But then the text messages started

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involving my children They're playing at the

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park Somebody's watching her and her kids play

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at the park and I bet you she's gonna start getting

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text messages But then the text messages started

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involving my children the park to play for a

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while. Yep, she got a text message that says

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Ryan's on the slide. And you're pushing Lexi

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on the swing. Naturally, she lives with her kids.

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I'm sleeping on the couch with a baseball bat.

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I woke him up to tell him to go into his own

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room. And when I asked him why he was sleeping

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on the couch, he said that he was going to protect

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us. Poor baby. It was heartbreaking. We're kind

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of sick monster. What would do that? Like, wow.

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So Dave finally went and bought a pistol. Because

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he needs to protect his kids. Okay, he bought

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a pistol. 9mm Smith &amp; Wesson. He's dead. He's

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not a gunslinger so he won't have it hanging

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off his head. And he puts it in the case and

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puts it on top of the shelf in his room. So his

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kids can't reach it. He's kind of slow. After

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all this he decides just now to go get a gun

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and not have it on his body So it's been two

00:32:23.710 --> 00:32:26.630
years since they heard from since they anybody

00:32:26.630 --> 00:32:33.750
seen Carrie Carrie hasn't gone to work But remember

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Carrie lives two blocks from day's work days

00:32:36.750 --> 00:32:45.079
old work and Carrie is Stalking people Send in

00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:55.299
text messages to Dave Liz now Amy But she's using

00:32:55.299 --> 00:33:01.440
burner phones She has all these burner phones

00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:05.599
with all these different numbers So where's she

00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:10.220
getting the money from if she's not working She's

00:33:10.220 --> 00:33:15.910
not working nobody's seen her She hasn't used

00:33:15.910 --> 00:33:18.849
her credit card for gas or for anything else.

00:33:21.970 --> 00:33:24.890
She's obviously not staying at her apartment

00:33:24.890 --> 00:33:30.029
or house. How's she getting the money? And how's

00:33:30.029 --> 00:33:49.390
she avoiding all these people seeing her? for

00:33:49.390 --> 00:33:53.670
two years at this point. The emails and the messages

00:33:53.670 --> 00:33:56.890
and the social media alone were not proof that

00:33:56.890 --> 00:34:01.890
Carrie Barber was alive. In those messages, Carrie

00:34:01.890 --> 00:34:04.289
said she was quitting her job, moving to Kansas,

00:34:04.690 --> 00:34:09.210
and just needed some space. But when we looked

00:34:09.210 --> 00:34:11.409
at the original investigator's photographs of

00:34:11.409 --> 00:34:14.230
Carrie's home, we found that her closet was still

00:34:14.230 --> 00:34:17.670
full of clothes. All of her belongings are still

00:34:17.670 --> 00:34:20.530
in that house. It was just like she was coming

00:34:20.530 --> 00:34:22.969
back tomorrow. She was coming back this afternoon.

00:34:23.630 --> 00:34:28.510
Nothing was changed. The bed was made. The coat

00:34:28.510 --> 00:34:32.789
was still hanging on a chair. Nothing there suggested

00:34:32.789 --> 00:34:34.969
that she had packed up and moved to a different

00:34:34.969 --> 00:34:39.570
city. We got Carrie's bank records, and what

00:34:39.570 --> 00:34:42.150
we saw then was two transactions that had happened

00:34:42.150 --> 00:34:45.369
just a couple days after she went missing. And

00:34:45.369 --> 00:34:49.449
after that, there's nothing. It's hard to exist

00:34:49.449 --> 00:34:54.869
without money. So the last transaction was made

00:34:54.869 --> 00:34:59.210
in Omaha, Nebraska at a family dollar. I believe

00:34:59.210 --> 00:35:11.449
in 2012. So this ends the second session of this

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podcast. Stay tuned. for the third and final

00:35:22.019 --> 00:35:28.860
session. It will absolutely knock your socks

00:35:28.860 --> 00:35:41.039
off. Until then, remember to stay safe, stay

00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:44.380
vigilant and keep on investigating people.
