We are starting part two of lover stalker killer
Here's the thing Always research them body I
Know I know I know it takes time and when you
met that person it's so magical But don't go
to their house on the first night Or the second
night or the third night or the fourth night
or the fifth night investigate that motherfucker
it just might save your life if he doesn't have
a criminal history he might be planning wrong
with the third party and the third party can
kill your ass if they're crazy enough so pay
attention and listen to part two it might save
you some chaos in your life And the texts keep
coming You are fucking whore Liz and then the
man says he felt like Liz was being harassed
because he dated this other woman Remember Liz
is the first one he met and He told her he was
not looking for anything serious and then came
along this other woman who told him she was not
looking for anything serious and this other woman
started harassing Liz doing all this crazy shit
if you're lost go back to part one honey you
won't regret this so this other woman was telling
Liz she's a homewrecker and She's a whore This
is the same woman who told the man that she didn't
want anything serious and they were only dating
for two weeks Are you listening? Are you listening?
Listen after Dave broke up with Liz After the
second woman starts harassing Liz Liz went to
Dave for comfort And because she was scared,
Dave said he felt like he needed to protect Liz.
And they rekindled their relationship. Begin
putting the parts together. Connect the dots,
people. By the way, they're kissing in front
of the big window. With the blinds open and no
curtains. I Don't know what some of y 'all do
this I Used to do it when I was young 21 have
my first apartment. I used to have sheer curtains
I never left my blinds open, but I didn't realize
you can actually see through sheer curtains.
I Put some sheets up there and the next week
I couldn't afford to go buy anything the next
day the next week I wouldn't bought some blackout
curtains so they're kissing in front of the window
where everybody can see like come on now and
they know this person is stalking them so Amy
is Day's ex -partner like I mentioned before
They have a few kids and the kids go over Dave's
house on the weekends. Now at this point Liz
and Dave are living together. Are you confused
enough? I sure was until I had to like listen
to it again and sort back and you know do the
pegs and all that crap. So the kids are aware
of what was going on. kudos to Amy because after
the kids told her about the vandalization vandalization
vandalizing whatever in the text message and
the harassment Amy put her foot down and said
no if you want to see the kids come to my house
damn it you won't have my kids going through
all that shitty chaos I don't know if Dave even
told her the kids had to tell her like what a
dumbass Anyway... This bitch is crazy. Anyway,
Dave gets a call from Liz while he is at work.
He comes home and he sees a window smashed out.
With the message on the wall or something, go
away whore. I have nothing else to say after
that. Let's continue. so the message was written
in red lipstick and on his bed he saw a lot of
Liz's clothes had been slashed up and coming
from his quote they've been slashed up in a murdering
ring style like a lot of her clothes has been
slashed he's showing pictures like hmm so he's
protecting Liz The woman he met briefly Before
he met Carrie but candy whatever her name But
he he's protecting Liz While his kids are in
like involved But he's so worried about protecting
Liz that He's not even thinking about how is
it affecting his kids Put Liz's ass out and allow
your kids to come over. Like, come on. Liz was
there when Carrie broke in. Would Liz have actually
gotten stabbed? Now, Liz is looking out the window.
This is a real threat. This isn't bullshit. With
no curtains, and she's that damn scared of Carrie.
Now Carrie is sending messages. She will die.
No one can stop me. You can see Liz, big as day,
looking out the windows. With no curtains. Alright
people, are you putting this together? Are you
putting this together? So the investigator, he
had probable cause to arrest Carrie. He had a
warrant, but he could not serve her because he
couldn't find her. So, according to Dave, this
has been going on for over a year. He's been
going out to dinner with his kids and he would
get random messages while he was out with his
kids saying, I know where you are. I know what
restaurant you're at. Is the food good? Not only
is the stalker stalking Liz, but she's fucking
with Dave and his kids. These people are very
dangerous. They don't care who it affects. They
would go after your whole family if need be.
So Carrie sends a message to Dave. I can get
in the door. I mean, I can get in the building.
I put my ear up against the door and I hear what
you're saying at all times. And the police...
still can't find her even though she lives a
couple blocks from day's work no trace nothing
so if you send a message I am watching you and
the way they are doing this in this show is so
creepy they show a person in all black with a
black hoodie on Standing in front of his peephole
and then walking off So Dave is stressing out
now He spends more and more time at the bar.
He had a drink just to take the edge off But
he is losing it, baby He is losing it Hmm But
I tell you about those threesomes those secret
threesomes he let somebody into his life, but
not knowing if the other chick is crazy and if
people are going to be harmed around this action.
somebody pouring gasoline all over a house and
lighting on fire with a match. So Carrie sent
a message to Dave and said, I set that fucking
whore's house on fire. I hope the whore and her
kids die in it. Now how crazy is that? So Dave
leaves the bar, rushes over to Liz's house, and
is engulfed. Like... It's engulfed. Hopefully,
there was no kids in that house. They pullin'
out Dernie's, the ambulance. Now Liz is lookin'
at her house on fire. Now Dave's comfortin' her.
She put her head on his... on his chest okay
all of Liz's pets died she had this adorable
German Shepherd the kind of dog I have they're
so loving she had a snake and I think two cats
so whoever Liz's house was on fire house on fire
is beyond crazy I hope y 'all paying close attention
to this. The ending is gonna be shocking. These
have lost everything she owns. Now she's homeless.
Now Liz is talking to a defiant investigator,
right? And he's asking what causes this and she's
telling him that Carrie, the woman who's been
dating for two weeks, has been threatening and
talking to her, right? Now she says, what about
my animals? I know they're all dead. Then the
investigator says, The Humane Society is going
to take care of the animals. Sorry. The Humane
Society is going to take care of the animals.
Sorry. I just wish we could go back. So after
the fire Liz took what belongs she had and moved.
She didn't tell Dave where she moved because
obviously she didn't want Carrie to come after
her. blame her one bit. She did not want Terry
to come along after her. At that point, I felt
alone. I didn't know whether to be mad or sad
or cry. I had lost my partner or the one person
who understood what I was going through. Yeah,
he said she was still out there. Is she alive
or dead? And Carrie is the one who's supposedly
been stalking Liz, setting Liz's house on fire,
threatening to kill Liz and her kids. But the
police can't find her anywhere. So all of a sudden
Liz packs up a move. Hmm, okay. agency. So two
years earlier, I'd heard that there's another
couple of detectives looking into somebody named
Perry Farmer as a missing person. I'd heard that
she was a single mom that kind of just vanished.
Nobody had physically seen her, but she was still
communicating, getting emails and text messages.
At the same time, the detective from Omaha Police
Department had been investigating arson and harassment.
and vandalism, but after a long time the case
had kind of gone cold for the investigators that
were looking into it. This is Carrie's mother,
Nancy. So after the case had gone cold, two detectives
went to their boss and asked if they can take
the case over because it intrigued them a bit
much. The boss said, yeah. So they went and talked
to Carrie Farber's mother, Nancy, and this is
what you hear. Nancy Tell, the new detective.
Grandma, there's probably some things she didn't
tell me, but I had some things that I didn't
tell my mother, but she'd always call home. I
couldn't make sense of it, and that's when we
reported her missing. I first got involved in
the case. I got involved because it sounded interesting.
Once I met Nancy, it turned for me. I wanted
to get her answers. Because it sounded interesting.
Once I met Nancy, it turned for me. I wanted
to get her answers. Looking through the case
file, The original reports noted that Carrie
had a history of bipolar disorder. So get this.
Dave met Carrie at his mechanic shop, right?
They didn't hit it off then, but when he was
online on his profile, he saw her picture. He
sent her message and said hey, I know you she
said yeah you do Then that's when they start
going out She lived to help two blocks away from
his work and she starts spending night at his
house Not knowing she had this bipolar order.
I mean bipolar Symptom And she wasn't taking
her medication is an example of why you should
look people up and or get to know them before
you start sleeping with them, before you let
them at your house, around your kids. Man, I
believe most of us have done that and we're lucky
to be still living and breathing but take the
time to investigate and take your time inviting
people over your house so after Dave moved to
Nebraska Liz was on a picture so he says and
he wanted to start dating again so he hops on
Nebraska dead insights here we go again here
we go again Dave Hold your horses and take some
time out. So he moved away from his kids That's
just that just dawned on me He moved away from
his kids at first. He was trying to protect Liz
a person he known for a hot minute from Carrie
a person He'd been sleeping with for two weeks
after he's known her for a hot minute And you
move away from your kids after you put them in
danger. Okay. Punk rocker chick The person who
he messages punk rocker chick, I think she was
29 So he set up a date He went to the restaurant
waiting for her listening this get the message
punk rocker chick says I'm coming I'm running
a little late so he sat there longer than an
hour more sit there sit there now it's raining
and thundering you sit there and sit there is
he desperate about the time He decides that she's
not coming. Maybe two hours he's been sitting
there. She sends another message and guess what
the message said. This is Carrie. Mmm, baby.
This is Carrie. Fuck you. That's what the message
said. Told you. Now, Carrie is targeting Dave's
ex, Amy, with the two kids that he moved away
from. Now he's in Nebraska. I think she still
lives in Iowa. Now Carrie is targeting her. Is
it Carrie? Is it Liz? Is it Dave? Is it somebody
else? Stay tuned to find out. So Common Sense
will tell you that it may not be Carrie because
the detectives can't find her. She lived two
blocks away from Day's work. She hasn't gone
to work. Her mother hasn't heard from her. Now
the stalker says, I'm going to cut Amy's throat.
Wait till I slit her throat. And Amy... is a
mother of his two kids. If I can get rid of you,
I would. So how the hell did she get Amy's number?
Like... I know phone numbers are easy to get,
but how she know Amy's name, Amy's full like...
This bitch is crazy. Off she has time. For is
a stock people But then the text messages started
involving my children They're playing at the
park Somebody's watching her and her kids play
at the park and I bet you she's gonna start getting
text messages But then the text messages started
involving my children the park to play for a
while. Yep, she got a text message that says
Ryan's on the slide. And you're pushing Lexi
on the swing. Naturally, she lives with her kids.
I'm sleeping on the couch with a baseball bat.
I woke him up to tell him to go into his own
room. And when I asked him why he was sleeping
on the couch, he said that he was going to protect
us. Poor baby. It was heartbreaking. We're kind
of sick monster. What would do that? Like, wow.
So Dave finally went and bought a pistol. Because
he needs to protect his kids. Okay, he bought
a pistol. 9mm Smith & Wesson. He's dead. He's
not a gunslinger so he won't have it hanging
off his head. And he puts it in the case and
puts it on top of the shelf in his room. So his
kids can't reach it. He's kind of slow. After
all this he decides just now to go get a gun
and not have it on his body So it's been two
years since they heard from since they anybody
seen Carrie Carrie hasn't gone to work But remember
Carrie lives two blocks from day's work days
old work and Carrie is Stalking people Send in
text messages to Dave Liz now Amy But she's using
burner phones She has all these burner phones
with all these different numbers So where's she
getting the money from if she's not working She's
not working nobody's seen her She hasn't used
her credit card for gas or for anything else.
She's obviously not staying at her apartment
or house. How's she getting the money? And how's
she avoiding all these people seeing her? for
two years at this point. The emails and the messages
and the social media alone were not proof that
Carrie Barber was alive. In those messages, Carrie
said she was quitting her job, moving to Kansas,
and just needed some space. But when we looked
at the original investigator's photographs of
Carrie's home, we found that her closet was still
full of clothes. All of her belongings are still
in that house. It was just like she was coming
back tomorrow. She was coming back this afternoon.
Nothing was changed. The bed was made. The coat
was still hanging on a chair. Nothing there suggested
that she had packed up and moved to a different
city. We got Carrie's bank records, and what
we saw then was two transactions that had happened
just a couple days after she went missing. And
after that, there's nothing. It's hard to exist
without money. So the last transaction was made
in Omaha, Nebraska at a family dollar. I believe
in 2012. So this ends the second session of this
podcast. Stay tuned. for the third and final
session. It will absolutely knock your socks
off. Until then, remember to stay safe, stay
vigilant and keep on investigating people.