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have you ever ran into somebody unexpectedly

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and you hit it off and you make it clear that

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you just in it for fun you set up front no long

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-term relationships and the person You meet,

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says, I'm fine with that. And then your situation

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turns into a love triangle, which you didn't

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really plan on. This is the episode of Lover

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Stalker Killer. One of these threesomes in that

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dead And boy boy, are you in for a bizarre twist?

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year 2000 this guy was working at a truck stop

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as a mechanic and he met this other woman that

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worked there they started dating and eventually

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had a few kids they thought they had it all a

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house two kids good jobs but he worked days and

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she worked nights And they hardly saw each other.

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And that's where their relationship fell apart.

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So the mother, the ex -girlfriend decided she

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wanted to go home to Nebraska because their relationship

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was over at that time. And he, being the good

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father, said, there's no way I'm not taking care

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of my kids. So he moved to Nebraska behind her.

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so he can take care of his kids. But the relationship

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was over and they both understood it. So as he

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was building his life in Nebraska, he got a job

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in the automotive industry. But he was lonely

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and he no longer could fight their urge. So he

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did what everybody else does he built a profile

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online and Guess what dating site he went to

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Yep, you guessed it plenty of fish Where there

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are no charges and online dating is completely

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free And instantly he was matched with over 10

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,000 ladies there wasn't really a connection.

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Eventually, he got a match. Liz, who was 34 while

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he was 35, she owned a business in housekeeping.

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Now, their profiles were almost exactly alike.

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She loved animals. She had two dogs, a cat, and

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a snake. Or one dog, two cats, and a snake. I

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can't remember. But he loved animals. They both

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had two kids. It was almost eerily matching.

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And I don't know. Was she matching his likes?

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and profile on purpose so he would pick her so

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they would have something a lot of things in

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common hmm we would never know will we unless

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she reveals it now this was his first real date

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in years they went out bowling bar They have

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fun He said she was really energetic smiling

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full of energy, but Most people are like that

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on a first date especially if they're trying

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to really impress someone and want to display

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a personality That they would think their date

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It's going to be attracted to so From my perspective

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she was doing a little too much Because that

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didn't really match her personality But hey,

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I've done that you know, I had real real good

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fun And sometimes you have to animate it, you

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know? Oh, you probably don't know. I don't know.

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But sometimes, on the first date, it's extra.

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Remember, he made it clear to Liz that he was

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not absolutely going to be tied down. He wasn't

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looking for anything serious He was just looking

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for someone to hang out have sex with because

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They did have sex. I believe on the first night

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after they had so much fun and Liz agreed like

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she was in there for a long run and she was Not

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ready for anything serious either One day when

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he was working at the shop, Carrie Farmer walks

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in and he thought she was the most beautiful

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thing he had ever seen. She told him what was

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wrong with her car. He said he'll fix it and

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he didn't think nothing twice. He didn't think

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he will ever see her again. But lo and behold,

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honey child, you guessed it, they met on a dating

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site. Actually, they saw each other again on

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the dating site. Hmm, that's strange. She comes

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into his mechanic shop to have her car fixed.

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They said, thank you, thanks for your work, thanks

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for your customer service, thanks for your business,

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and with their separate ways. Then all of a sudden

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he runs into her profile on a dating site Hmm

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So a couple of weeks later He was on a dating

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site and he ran across her profile Carrie Farber

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He's like, hey, I know you she's like, I know

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you too and they started chatting How ironic

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is that? The woman going to shoot you into your

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shop to have her car fixed. You said goodbye,

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thanks for your business. And then a couple weeks

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later, you come across her profile? On her dating

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site? Hmm. So, they finally hooked up, went out

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on a date, and he found out she was totally out

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of his - his league. Even though she had a child

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when she was young, she went back to school,

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she had a career in IT, computers were her thing.

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She was smart and sexy. And even though he was

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up, he says she was out of her league. Hey, they

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hit it off. They went back to his place and not

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even Before they took their coats off his doorbell

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ring Guess see what is Liz the woman he first

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met and told He was not looking for anything

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serious. This is just fun, and I'll see you when

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I see you. So, picture this scenario. He dated

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Liz. They had sex. He made it clear he wasn't

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looking for anything serious. Carrie comes into

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his shop to get her car fixed. He fixed a car

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that went on their way. Two weeks later, he saw

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Carrie on the dating site. He sent her a message.

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She responded. They went out. They went back

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to his place and Liz shows up. Is that a coincidence

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or was Liz following them? I need to get some

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out of your apartment in front of Carrie. So

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Dave had explained this situation in front of

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Carrie, this girl who just met. He was feeling

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fucking awkward. The words were out of his mouth.

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And Carrie left. She's like, I'm not putting

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up with this bullshit. And you somebody I just

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met. Liz was still in the apartment getting something

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out of his apartment. She just so happened to

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need that something when he took another woman

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to his house. So after she left, he called Carrie

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and wanted Carrie to come back. She's like, hey,

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I'm almost halfway home. Why don't you come over

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to my place? So Carrie lived in... Macedonia

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a tiny town in Iowa and when he arrived at her

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house she's like look we're not boyfriend and

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girlfriend we're not getting married this is

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just fun this is not serious he's like oh what

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the hell yes I'm in so that's just what he was

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looking for so he set the boundaries with Liz

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now Kerry set the boundaries with him like, hey,

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we're just fuck buddies, basically. And he was

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all for it. So, Carrie worked three blocks from

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his apartment. They saw each other a lot. She

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spent the night over his house many of times.

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And a lot of nights, they just talk and not have

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sex. So one day, he was leaving his apartment

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at 6 a .m. to go to work, and his life would

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change forever. About 10 .30, he gets a text

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from Carrie. And the text says, hey, we should

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move in together. And he was thinking, uh, I've

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just been seeing you for two weeks. Yeah, it's

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hot and heavy. But it's just two weeks. And he

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said, I thought we talked about nothing serious.

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And this was bizarre because Carrie brought up

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the fact that, hey, we're not boyfriend and girlfriend.

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We're just F buddies. So after he said, we reminded

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her of, we're just friends. This isn't moving

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too fast and Much Not much sooner as he's sent

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in She starts sending him Pages of text messages.

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Hey, fuck you You've ruined my life I never want

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to see you again, and that's bizarre Coming from

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a woman who set boundaries So he was just in

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shock like he's like I've been seeing you for

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only two weeks, and you would have cut it off

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Curse me out because I don't want to move in

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with you Like he said no matter how well you

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hit it off with somebody no matter how many years

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you've been dating or married you really never

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know a person so he went home at lunch he didn't

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see her carry around her bags were gone her tooth

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breath was was gone she was nowhere to be found

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but you gotta admit it's kind of like He was

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giving her mixed signals because she was spending

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the night all the time. She had a bad toothbrush.

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Hey, he could have been leading her on, not knowingly,

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even though she said, I don't want anything serious.

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This is where this gets really confusing. So

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he was sad that it didn't work out, but he started

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getting on with his life again. He didn't hear

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anything from Carrie for a couple of days, but

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out of the blue, he started receiving text messages

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from her again. And she starts off by saying,

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you're a bastard. I'm going to destroy everything

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you love. Your life will be ruined For ruining

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mine now he found this weird because He couldn't

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figure out why Carrie the woman that set boundaries

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Will be harassing him Because he chose not to

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move in together I find that very bizarre myself

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Her mother Nancy which live in the same town

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knew she had met somebody online and Knew that

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Liz was staying at her house because it was close

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to her job and she can just rest there before

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she went home But she sounded kind of odd When

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she couldn't get a hold of Carrie and she hadn't

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heard from her that was unusual for Carrie So

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So one day he was at work and his front counter

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guy said, Dave, the sheriff's looking for you.

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The police, the sheriff, is looking for Dave.

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So Dave went up front to talk to the policeman

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and they said, they asked him, do you know Carrie

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Farber? He said, yes. They said, she's missing.

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Her mother filed a missing person's report. That

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was bizarre, but he wasn't too surprised because

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she was acting weird. So they asked him, where

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is Carrie? He said he has no idea. They said,

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you're her boyfriend. Why don't you know where

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she is? but they had the information wrong because

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they weren't boyfriend and girlfriend and He

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pulled out his phone and he showed him all the

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nasty text messages. She's been sending him side

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note if someone is harassing you Threatening

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you And they're sending text messages or leaving

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voicemails, please save them I guarantee you,

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you will need them for proof in the future. So

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after he showed the nasty text messages, their

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whole demeanor changed and they said, hey, hang

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in there. A person won't spend their time harassing

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you for much longer. They see bad breakups all

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the time and harassment doesn't last. forever.

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So her mom said shortly after she reported her

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daughter missing, she started getting these weird

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Facebook messages from her. The first one said,

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I am not missing. I just don't want to come home

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right now. So why didn't you call your mom or

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text her? Do you send Facebook messages? Hmm,

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and then she went on to say I love y 'all very

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much, but I need time So she at least leaving

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her young son behind also with her mom That's

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very bizarre But eventually she did text her

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mom on Mother's Day and said Happy Mother's Day,

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but her mom was thrown off because started getting

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like two Word messages or two two paragraphs

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that Were just nasty messages Now a couple weeks

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later Liz the first woman he met And made it

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clear that he didn't want him relationship showed

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up to his house now this is the same woman that

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showed up the same night him and Carrie went

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out on their first date so she showed up at his

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house and she said I want to show you something

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and this is at night she just shows up out the

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blue so she shows him the side of her vehicle

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that had been deeply keyed like you know how

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somebody keys your car It ran from the front

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all the way to the back. And it was deep. And

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then she showed messages from Carrie that says,

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I would do more if you did not leave Dave alone.

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And then she called Liz a whore. Like, this is

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crazy. This is the same woman who said to Dave,

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we're not boyfriend and girlfriend. We're just

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buddies. Now she's keying Liz's car The person

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that she made eye contact with it for a few seconds

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Because she showed up to Dave's house to get

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something from his house Yeah, I'm confused too

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Not long after Liz showed up at his house showing

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Dave her car, Carrie started text messaging Dave

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again. She said she was responsible for destroying

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us. And then she said, I'm more diabolical than

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a few scratches on a car. So at that point, Dave

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and Liz when we're worried that something worse

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could happen to both of them. Because at this

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point, Carrie was stalking Liz, harassing Liz,

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and sending Dave nasty text messages as well.

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So this police officer, he worked for Omaha Police

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Department in Special Victims Unit. domestic

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violence and stalking. Dave Krupa, that's his

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last name, came to see him in 2012. Now mind

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you, this is based on a true story. So Dave reached

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out to the police department, talked to the detective,

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and he voiced concerns about what was going on.

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So, this is something he has seen for years.

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Stalking, a jealous ex, harassment. But he started

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looking deeply into this case. So, Dave was showing

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him emails from Carrie. and one said no one will

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be able to have you with me around. I will keep

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every horror you see Away from you one way or

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another I Like that I can still get in the building

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put my ear up against your door and I can hear

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everything Then I can go back outside look through

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the windows and see if I see or hear anything

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Those were the type of messages Carrie was sending

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Dave and she She said, I will keep attacking

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Liz until she leaves you. If I can't have you,

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nobody will. And that's scary. When somebody

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says that, yeah, watch out. Then she goes on

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to say, I will destroy your life and take your

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happiness. Mind you, this is the woman that said,

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we're not born to... Find a girlfriend. You don't

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have to explain nothing to me is this is not

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serious and then After she spent the night She

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wanted to move in with Dave When he said no She

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start this crazy stuff if you think you confused

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The detector said this is one of the most strangest

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and unpredictable cases he's ever worked. Now,

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you have to write all this down to remember it

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or keep watching the show over and over and pausing

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it to get a clear understanding what was exactly

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going on. I can't even talk, I'm so confused.

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So, as Dave was sitting in the coffee shop one

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night, he gets a text. And the tech says, how

00:26:40.829 --> 00:26:44.950
does that coffee taste? And then she's asked

00:26:44.950 --> 00:26:51.349
him, do you see me? So he's by himself in a coffee

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shop at night, sitting by a window, and he gets

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this bizarre text. And he starts looking around

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like, oh my goodness. Then she starts sending

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these wacky texts. Do you want me your life?

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You shouldn't have left me. Do you see me? I

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can see you. Then she starts attacking his...

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Anatomy. Hey limp dick. That's not funny. But...

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This is... This is crazy. I'm not going away

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I will harass you will pay for your infidelities

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now mind you they've only been dating for two

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weeks and not even serious you will fuck me soon

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you're an asshole why do you dislike me hey loser

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why you keep fucking around with these whores

00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:10.190
these text messages were coming fast and furious.

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And then, shortly after she sent these, she started

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sending text messages from a different phone

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number. I still have keys to your place. You

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get busy that you can't even say fuck off. I

00:28:28.269 --> 00:28:30.809
will always control you and make you miserable.

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She was getting even madder. that he wouldn't

00:28:37.170 --> 00:28:41.309
respond. He said he couldn't block them fast

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enough at the rate they were coming in. I will

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show you crazy. I don't understand why you're

00:28:48.690 --> 00:28:53.630
not responding. I will take over your life. Do

00:28:53.630 --> 00:28:59.009
you still want me? I know you do. I'm following

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you all weekend. These were the crazy text messages

00:29:05.690 --> 00:29:10.009
she was sending him You will pay for the rest

00:29:10.009 --> 00:29:16.210
of your life I Will destroy your life. I don't

00:29:16.210 --> 00:29:18.710
know what I saw in you. I will take over your

00:29:18.710 --> 00:29:26.589
life Like wow she Doesn't have time to do anything

00:29:26.589 --> 00:29:29.490
else, but harassed this man. What about her IT

00:29:29.490 --> 00:29:35.309
job like Is she doing this all night and all

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day? She just let this man take over her thoughts

00:29:42.609 --> 00:29:49.109
and life. Then she started sending him emails

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that were from different IP addresses. I have

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two guys that are going to get you. You're a

00:30:00.390 --> 00:30:05.500
jackass. I'm going back to Kansas. Your car's

00:30:05.500 --> 00:30:12.119
outside. I will never let you be one of anyone.

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And he said he received these messages up to

00:30:16.380 --> 00:30:22.980
125 a day. Email. And the most bizarre message

00:30:22.980 --> 00:30:28.059
she sent is, I should cut your heart out. Hmm.

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When he went back to work, She start text message

00:30:33.230 --> 00:30:37.849
him again. Hey, I can see you at work. I can

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see who you talking to. And she was given details

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of the customers he was talking to. Of course,

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they reported this to the detective because he

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starts getting really worried and afraid for

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safety at this point. She sent him messages.

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Every whore you talk to, I'll take pictures of

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their plate number. Then she goes as far as to

00:31:10.180 --> 00:31:12.859
say, I don't care if they are just customers.

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I will still go after them. So the detective

00:31:17.500 --> 00:31:23.420
thought she's watching him from somewhere. He

00:31:23.420 --> 00:31:27.220
started doing reverse stakeouts to see where

00:31:27.220 --> 00:31:33.839
she could be watching him from. The detective

00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:41.000
went as far as to show Carrie's picture to the

00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:43.680
surrounding houses and apartments and no one

00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:50.500
has seen her. Then she was so bold to tell him

00:31:50.500 --> 00:31:56.140
she's staying at 11618 Birch Street. This was

00:31:56.140 --> 00:31:58.859
a couple of buildings away from him in the same

00:31:58.859 --> 00:32:03.319
apartment complex. Apartment 12. She had a nerve

00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:05.960
to tell him what apartment she's staying at.

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So Dave puts on his coat, walks outside at night

00:32:11.619 --> 00:32:16.460
looking for apartment 12. He doesn't want to

00:32:16.460 --> 00:32:20.140
call the cops, he wants to hurt her bad. So he's

00:32:20.140 --> 00:32:22.359
still looking, still looking, still looking.

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And guess what? There's no apartment 12. So who?

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Then after he found out there was no Department

00:32:32.660 --> 00:32:36.400
12, he stepped back and looked at all the apartments

00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:38.619
to figure out which one she was watching him

00:32:38.619 --> 00:32:46.240
from. He couldn't figure it out. Now if you were

00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:50.420
watching this show, this part will make you uneasy

00:32:50.420 --> 00:32:56.619
because the way they set it up, like they had

00:32:56.619 --> 00:33:02.039
this woman outside. Under a tree looking up at

00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:05.799
the apartment window that just scared the mess

00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:15.299
out of me Now this is the part that scared the

00:33:15.299 --> 00:33:22.220
fuck out of Dave She sent him pictures of Liz's

00:33:22.220 --> 00:33:27.299
apartment and then she said I wonder if she's

00:33:27.299 --> 00:33:33.390
here She went on to say she left the garage door

00:33:33.390 --> 00:33:40.329
open. Not only did she key Liz's car in the garage,

00:33:40.990 --> 00:33:50.930
she spray painted on Liz's wall, whore. So Dave

00:33:50.930 --> 00:33:53.349
called the cops, he filed a brief police report,

00:33:54.789 --> 00:33:59.430
and that's all he can do at this time. And he

00:33:59.430 --> 00:34:04.069
can tell that this is putting so much stress

00:34:04.069 --> 00:34:16.070
on Liz and her kids. Stay tuned for parts 2,

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3, and 4. Until next time, be careful who you

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date, lock your doors and windows, and always

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stay ready.