WEBVTT 00:00:06.299 --> 00:00:11.900 This is the Litterbox, a Detroit Lions podcast 00:00:11.900 --> 00:00:15.640 with your hosts, Chad West and Bill Patterson. 00:00:19.059 --> 00:00:21.920 Detroit Lions Litterbox listeners, you got your 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:25.899 season finale in the Windy City yesterday. Sunday, 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:29.120 January 4th, we are recording on Monday, January 00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:31.920 5th, giving our reaction and our response to 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:38.100 what we saw a Lions 19 to 16 victory over what 00:00:38.100 --> 00:00:42.100 will be the number two seed Chicago Bears coming 00:00:42.100 --> 00:00:45.880 out of the NFC. We want it with field goals and 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:49.740 zone defense. Bill, I know you have thoughts. 00:00:50.020 --> 00:00:53.240 Please give them to me. So Chet first and foremost 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:57.060 yesterday's game was as entertaining as or entertained 00:00:57.060 --> 00:00:59.780 as I've been in two months watching the Lions 00:00:59.780 --> 00:01:03.000 It was just a fun game Ben Johnson on one sideline 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:07.379 MC DC on the other Cold weather gray skies outdoor 00:01:07.379 --> 00:01:10.040 football grass stains and Lions ended up winning 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:13.379 what? That's the good news Chet. That's the glass 00:01:13.379 --> 00:01:15.459 half -full. Do you want to hear my real thoughts? 00:01:16.099 --> 00:01:19.260 Please give it to us Why didn't we do this in 00:01:19.260 --> 00:01:21.680 either Minnesota game because guess who'd be 00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:24.540 going to the playoffs right now? It's it's fascinating 00:01:24.540 --> 00:01:26.680 to think about and it's a little frustrating 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:30.700 But it was also bizarre to watch because you 00:01:30.700 --> 00:01:34.180 watch a coach that brazenly Went for on fourth 00:01:34.180 --> 00:01:37.620 down didn't kick field goals a defensive coordinator 00:01:37.620 --> 00:01:40.739 who played Mandy with What was obviously not 00:01:40.739 --> 00:01:43.439 enough talent on the defensive side of the ball 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:47.299 all season to do Mandy? Yet here we were getting 00:01:47.299 --> 00:01:50.239 what we asked for and squeaking out a win against 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:53.180 the number two seed bill It frustrates me a little 00:01:53.180 --> 00:01:56.560 bit but in all honesty It doesn't shock me because 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:58.819 they were kind of going with the game plan that 00:01:58.819 --> 00:02:00.819 got them to where they've gotten to over the 00:02:00.819 --> 00:02:03.719 last four seasons or three seasons Yeah, and 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:06.140 I guess how much stock do we put in also that 00:02:06.140 --> 00:02:08.199 they did finish with a winning record? So that's 00:02:08.199 --> 00:02:11.819 now four of the last five seasons in the MCDC 00:02:11.819 --> 00:02:14.719 Brad Holmes era They're winners. They've built 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:18.379 a winning culture, and that's, I think, enough 00:02:18.379 --> 00:02:20.639 that we have to hang our hat on. I do think we 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:22.580 need to be really, really frustrated, though, 00:02:22.659 --> 00:02:24.659 because it was a season. Let's break it down 00:02:24.659 --> 00:02:26.560 this way, Chet. Obviously, the Vikings games 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:29.120 are gonna be the two biggest in our craw. The 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:31.500 Steelers game was extremely upsetting for the 00:02:31.500 --> 00:02:33.979 fact that they just couldn't stop the run with 00:02:33.979 --> 00:02:36.599 third and fourth string tackles in there. Yeah. 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:39.159 Beyond that, I don't know that they were ever 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:42.650 really that in the Rams game after... the first 00:02:42.650 --> 00:02:45.009 three and out in the second half. And then both 00:02:45.009 --> 00:02:47.490 Packers games, I'm still going to chalk up his 00:02:47.490 --> 00:02:49.969 losses, especially the week one. They just looked 00:02:49.969 --> 00:02:52.330 overmatched, overwhelmed. They didn't have answers 00:02:52.330 --> 00:02:55.310 for Green Bay's front seven. That was when you 00:02:55.310 --> 00:02:58.550 and I knew that the offensive line started looking 00:02:58.550 --> 00:03:02.389 really bad. Yes. And the injuries were starting 00:03:02.389 --> 00:03:07.090 to show in that game. I mean, you and I said 00:03:07.090 --> 00:03:08.870 this yesterday during the game a little bit. 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:13.439 the center position in Glasgow. Glasgow is an 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:15.819 below average center. We all know this, but so 00:03:15.819 --> 00:03:17.439 much better than what we've had the last couple 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:18.960 of weeks and look how much of a difference it 00:03:18.960 --> 00:03:22.259 makes. Exactly. So here's another weird one for 00:03:22.259 --> 00:03:25.180 you. Yesterday, they ran the ball for 4 .5 yards 00:03:25.180 --> 00:03:28.400 a clip. We should have seen more Monte and what 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:30.860 arguably is probably going to be his final game. 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:34.259 I don't see the Lions with the salary cap upcoming. 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:36.439 I know it's going to increase, but they can't 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:39.819 afford to have Top ten I think he's number seven 00:03:39.819 --> 00:03:44.639 in in salary for cap it, you know next year So 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:47.319 I see him being a cap casualty, which is unfortunate 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:49.500 because I really enjoyed Monty's time here And 00:03:49.500 --> 00:03:51.539 so yep, I guess if nothing else I'd like to give 00:03:51.539 --> 00:03:55.659 a salute to him and of Sonic and Knuckles Yeah, 00:03:55.740 --> 00:03:57.539 well which probably ended a couple weeks ago 00:03:57.539 --> 00:04:00.139 really but it the true end Yeah, and then another 00:04:00.139 --> 00:04:04.620 guy who he drew our our our ire at times, but 00:04:04.620 --> 00:04:07.580 he also made a lot of plays I don't see Alex 00:04:07.580 --> 00:04:10.259 Zaloni probably coming back. He was in Concussion 00:04:10.259 --> 00:04:12.520 Protocol and didn't play yesterday and he was 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:14.599 nothing more than a Honolulu Blue and Silver 00:04:14.599 --> 00:04:17.660 Warrior. Unlike some other guys like Marcus Davenport 00:04:17.660 --> 00:04:20.120 looking at you, DJ Reader looking at you. Please 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:21.980 don't let the door hit you on the way out. Thanks 00:04:21.980 --> 00:04:24.199 for your time and service. I have a question 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:26.860 for you. Now that the dust is settled, do you 00:04:26.860 --> 00:04:30.879 know who was the second most productive D &D 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:34.009 duo in the NFL this season? I'm guessing it's 00:04:34.009 --> 00:04:38.329 got to be Bob Muhammad and and Hutch after Denial 00:04:38.329 --> 00:04:42.769 Hunter and everything. Will Anderson at Houston, 00:04:42.790 --> 00:04:45.370 who might make a Super Bowl run because they've 00:04:45.370 --> 00:04:48.250 got a fearsome foursome up front and get competent 00:04:48.250 --> 00:04:50.310 quarterback play, run the ball just enough, et 00:04:50.310 --> 00:04:54.610 cetera. I mean, Bob and Hutch had like 20 some 00:04:54.610 --> 00:04:57.670 sacks between the two of them at 11. Bob had 00:04:57.670 --> 00:05:02.029 11 and Hutch had 12 or 13. Yeah. Yeah. So another 00:05:02.029 --> 00:05:04.610 thing My vote for comeback player of the year, 00:05:04.610 --> 00:05:07.329 and I would give a game ball to Hutch. He did 00:05:07.329 --> 00:05:09.310 really well yesterday. My other game balls got 00:05:09.310 --> 00:05:13.209 to go to Amun Ra, the Sun God. He was everywhere 00:05:13.209 --> 00:05:15.589 yesterday. If I had to give a diss, it would 00:05:15.589 --> 00:05:19.009 be this real quick. Why is Gibbs out there so 00:05:19.009 --> 00:05:21.410 much comparatively to Monte? And then let me 00:05:21.410 --> 00:05:24.910 circle back to my question. How much money do 00:05:24.910 --> 00:05:27.889 you think Bob Mohamed's made in his entire NFL 00:05:27.889 --> 00:05:30.029 career? Because I don't know. But I think in 00:05:30.029 --> 00:05:32.250 one season, it's probably going to eclipse that. 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:35.680 The next yeah, you're you're you're close that 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:39.759 entire figure 13 million and change is the actual 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:42.600 number made in his career So yeah, he is 30 years 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:45.720 old going into age 31, you know season next season 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:48.139 So here's my question for you If you could get 00:05:48.139 --> 00:05:50.920 Bob on a three -year team friendly deal not that 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:53.360 I expect him to do it chat You have to pull the 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:55.220 trigger. You can't waffle on this. Yes or no. 00:05:55.259 --> 00:05:58.839 What do you do? No, I don't I'm going all in 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:01.930 for Max Crosby at this point Really? Apparently 00:06:01.930 --> 00:06:05.250 the Raiders are making him available. Okay. And 00:06:05.250 --> 00:06:09.209 I cannot imagine being a team going up against 00:06:09.209 --> 00:06:13.189 Max Crosby and Hutch. I can't either. If you 00:06:13.189 --> 00:06:15.370 gotta make Bob like your bailout if you don't 00:06:15.370 --> 00:06:18.569 get Max and somebody goes crazy and pays the 00:06:18.569 --> 00:06:22.189 world for Max. But I got a feeling he could end 00:06:22.189 --> 00:06:25.029 up in Detroit. Max just got extended so he's 00:06:25.029 --> 00:06:27.170 on a three year extension. I know. The problem 00:06:27.170 --> 00:06:31.649 with it is a big chunk of change. They'll have 00:06:31.649 --> 00:06:33.949 to restructure multiple deals, get a bunch of 00:06:33.949 --> 00:06:36.709 guys to agree to restructuring, namely Mr. Goff. 00:06:36.790 --> 00:06:38.470 You know, they're going to have to do some work 00:06:38.470 --> 00:06:41.949 to be able to fit that in. But from what I understand, 00:06:42.110 --> 00:06:44.350 like Decker, if he doesn't come back and granted, 00:06:44.389 --> 00:06:47.649 these are all other problems down the down the 00:06:47.649 --> 00:06:49.990 way. Right. With our own line is we're probably 00:06:49.990 --> 00:06:52.209 not going to get Decker back. I don't know if 00:06:52.209 --> 00:06:55.069 Glasgow is coming back. Sounds like Dan Skipper 00:06:55.069 --> 00:06:59.759 tackle eligible. Maybe done he gave a tearjerker 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:01.399 of an interview yesterday in the locker room 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:03.339 He's got back issues that he's had all season 00:07:03.339 --> 00:07:05.579 long And he's got to wait to hear what doctors 00:07:05.579 --> 00:07:07.980 have to say about that and these guys get beat 00:07:07.980 --> 00:07:09.920 up and they keep playing and you know They just 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:13.019 become kind of fractions of themselves out there 00:07:13.019 --> 00:07:17.100 on the field. I But back to the defensive end 00:07:17.100 --> 00:07:20.220 question. I'm going after Max Crosby. I'm sorry 00:07:20.220 --> 00:07:22.500 I know it sounds like a pipe dream, but I'm going 00:07:22.500 --> 00:07:24.740 all in on that I'm figuring out how to restructure 00:07:24.740 --> 00:07:28.050 to get that guy on the squad Okay, I like where 00:07:28.050 --> 00:07:31.589 I'm starting Bob Muhammad's a great Consolation 00:07:31.589 --> 00:07:34.089 prize if you will if we can't get anybody else 00:07:34.089 --> 00:07:36.829 I'm going for Bob again, and I'm not to say Bob 00:07:36.829 --> 00:07:38.889 didn't have a good season But nothing in his 00:07:38.889 --> 00:07:41.209 repertoire tells me he can repeat that after 00:07:41.209 --> 00:07:45.050 like he would be such a unicorn in the NFL to 00:07:45.050 --> 00:07:48.829 such a unicorn to a Have his best season age 00:07:48.829 --> 00:07:51.629 30 and then B to sign him to three years would 00:07:51.629 --> 00:07:54.879 just be This is one I think you let some other 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:59.620 team bite the bullet. Yeah. You go with a more... 00:07:59.620 --> 00:08:02.540 This is Jonah Jackson part two, but on the defensive 00:08:02.540 --> 00:08:05.240 end side of things. Great analogy. Well done, 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:09.180 sir. Right. My next question for you, circling 00:08:09.180 --> 00:08:12.480 back a bit, is this is what zone looks like. 00:08:12.860 --> 00:08:15.000 And had we just run this against the Vikings, 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:17.939 we'd be in the playoffs right now. And Chet, 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:20.639 I'll be very frank with you. The Lions would 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:23.240 have... won the division had they beat the Vikings 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:26.120 twice. And so now they'd be hosting a playoff 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:28.959 game opposed to having to go on the road because 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:31.139 the Bears or someone else would have to come 00:08:31.139 --> 00:08:32.860 to them. I haven't done all the math on that, 00:08:33.220 --> 00:08:36.679 but you've got some garbage teams. Like, I'm 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:38.279 sorry, but the Panthers are garbage. I don't 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:40.539 understand why. I just don't understand what. 00:08:41.669 --> 00:08:44.389 Shep's reluctance was, I mean, he had every excuse 00:08:44.389 --> 00:08:47.470 in the world to shift off of his game plan or 00:08:47.470 --> 00:08:49.990 Aaron Glenn's game plan, if you will, mid season 00:08:49.990 --> 00:08:52.330 or earlier when the injuries started popping 00:08:52.330 --> 00:08:55.549 up. And some of these guys want to ride their 00:08:55.549 --> 00:08:58.350 plan, want to do their thing, to show that it'll 00:08:58.350 --> 00:09:00.429 work, to prove they can do it, prove they can 00:09:00.429 --> 00:09:03.529 get the job done. But they do it in the face 00:09:03.529 --> 00:09:07.730 of failure. And I just don't understand why. 00:09:07.730 --> 00:09:10.580 So this one flipped to this earlier. I don't 00:09:10.580 --> 00:09:13.279 know the reason, but I blame this again on Johnny 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:15.860 Moe for the fact that if Johnny Moe had just 00:09:15.860 --> 00:09:18.299 been competent in his job and Dan Campbell could 00:09:18.299 --> 00:09:20.840 have actually been the CEO that he should be. 00:09:20.940 --> 00:09:23.019 You think Dan would have reached over to Kelvin? 00:09:23.299 --> 00:09:27.080 Well, I think the CEO was so busy with his glasses 00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:30.600 and his face in the play calling sheet, which 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:32.960 if you look at how the Lions finished this year, 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:35.460 they scored a boatload of points. The problem 00:09:35.460 --> 00:09:37.139 is they just couldn't get off the field at key 00:09:37.139 --> 00:09:40.639 times. Yeah. I'm gonna go back, you know, I don't 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:42.519 wanna keep harping on it. Obviously the Viking 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:46.320 games, you know, are 1A and 1B in my, you know, 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:50.299 frustration for the 2025 season. Part two would 00:09:50.299 --> 00:09:53.299 be that Steelers game where I still don't understand 00:09:53.299 --> 00:09:56.440 how and why the Steelers did that. Given that 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:59.500 you knew, we knew, you and I, like two boobs 00:09:59.500 --> 00:10:03.539 with a microphone and headphones knew that that's 00:10:03.539 --> 00:10:05.659 what Arthur Smith's game plan was and it's still. 00:10:05.909 --> 00:10:09.110 came to fruition. So let's transition off of 00:10:09.110 --> 00:10:11.230 this. We talked about our wish list. I think 00:10:11.230 --> 00:10:13.370 number one is getting an offensive coordinator. 00:10:13.750 --> 00:10:16.350 Sure, sure. And a couple names are available 00:10:16.350 --> 00:10:19.149 now that I think are somewhat interesting. And 00:10:19.149 --> 00:10:21.429 I want to see what your thought is. Does Kevin 00:10:21.429 --> 00:10:24.970 Stefanski just released and fired from the Cleveland 00:10:24.970 --> 00:10:27.370 Browns do anything for you? He's a two time coach 00:10:27.370 --> 00:10:31.350 of the year. Yep. However, the knock on him is 00:10:31.350 --> 00:10:34.570 that he's not necessarily been the quarterback 00:10:34.570 --> 00:10:38.779 whisperer that people think he could be. However, 00:10:39.340 --> 00:10:42.779 what he does excel at is rejuvenating quarterback's 00:10:42.779 --> 00:10:46.840 careers. Before I go making a choice on an OC 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:49.460 at this point, I need to see what I get to choose 00:10:49.460 --> 00:10:52.299 from. We have an interesting situation here, 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:56.899 Bill. OK. The pool of potential head coaches 00:10:56.899 --> 00:11:00.139 out there for this season is a little thinner 00:11:00.139 --> 00:11:02.200 than it was last year, quite a bit thinner than 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:04.120 it was last year. Last year was like a gold rush. 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:07.500 And there's already six openings. So some of 00:11:07.500 --> 00:11:10.059 these guys that were head coaches, the Dables, 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:12.399 the Stefanskis, that, you know, Raheem Morris, 00:11:12.600 --> 00:11:14.600 whoever, whoever you want to go with that no 00:11:14.600 --> 00:11:17.559 longer have had coaching jobs might get recycled 00:11:17.559 --> 00:11:20.299 into another team system. as a head coach, they 00:11:20.299 --> 00:11:22.740 may not be stepping back into a coordinator position. 00:11:22.740 --> 00:11:25.779 I think we can say that safely, except for Pete 00:11:25.779 --> 00:11:29.120 Carroll, who is probably heading my way off into 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:31.519 the sunset. He's either going to Cabo to play 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:34.120 golf or going to Hawaii to play. Maybe time for 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:36.940 Pete to just take a season off, see how retirement 00:11:36.940 --> 00:11:39.500 settles with you. You know, do you think there's 00:11:39.500 --> 00:11:41.679 a chance we'd ever see like a Gruden back in 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:45.539 the NFL? I think. Yeah, there's always a chance. 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:47.840 There's always a chance. I feel like this is 00:11:47.840 --> 00:11:50.000 a type of year where it could happen. I wouldn't 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:52.480 want to be that franchise. So I'm thankful that 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:55.360 that's not an option. But there's a very, we're 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:58.500 in a real thin head coaching pool right now. 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:00.740 But when we talked about, you know, you brought 00:12:00.740 --> 00:12:03.580 up three names there and they're all available 00:12:03.580 --> 00:12:07.759 today. Yeah. If we couldn't, I guess Stefanski 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:09.419 would be my first choice. I think he's number 00:12:09.419 --> 00:12:11.419 one. He's got to be number one. And then Deball 00:12:11.419 --> 00:12:13.740 would be number two. And then, no offense, I 00:12:13.740 --> 00:12:16.139 want nothing to do with Raheem Morris. Another 00:12:16.139 --> 00:12:18.620 name for you that was let go that I actually 00:12:18.620 --> 00:12:21.700 think he's an excellent coordinator. I just don't 00:12:21.700 --> 00:12:23.860 think anybody can really go there and win. And 00:12:23.860 --> 00:12:26.100 that is the Arizona Cardinals. You're looking 00:12:26.100 --> 00:12:27.720 at, yeah. I know you're looking at that. That's 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:29.720 the defensive side of the ball. And right now, 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:32.460 offense and OC is so much more important. But 00:12:32.460 --> 00:12:35.940 if Jonathan Gannon doesn't get picked up, you 00:12:35.940 --> 00:12:38.700 think he's an interesting selection? I'm not, 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:42.159 I'm not, I'm not opposed. Let's put it that way. 00:12:42.179 --> 00:12:44.600 I'm going to just say one final thing on this, 00:12:44.700 --> 00:12:46.559 because obviously we do need to let the chips 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:50.909 fall. I want voices that have not been in Alan 00:12:50.909 --> 00:12:55.149 Park or inside the building the last five years. 00:12:55.509 --> 00:12:58.730 I want some new ideas. I want freshness. I want 00:12:58.730 --> 00:13:02.889 Dan and Kelvin and whomever, Brad, to be challenged. 00:13:03.450 --> 00:13:05.710 And I think, you know, when Jonathan Gannon was 00:13:05.710 --> 00:13:09.440 hired, he was one of the young inspiring defensive 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:11.440 coordinator mind. Same with Kevin Stefanski. 00:13:11.740 --> 00:13:14.679 They just happen to go to really bad, bad situations. 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:16.559 Wait, defensive coordinator? You said defensive 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:18.659 coordinator. No, no. Offensive coordinator. Defense 00:13:18.659 --> 00:13:21.039 for Jonathan Gannon. Oh, okay. Alright. Offensive 00:13:21.039 --> 00:13:24.200 for Stefanski. Yeah, so good clarification. I 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:26.740 think you'd be getting two young, bright minds 00:13:26.740 --> 00:13:30.480 that would meld well, and then their next head 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:32.840 coaching gigs, because I fully expect both of 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:35.909 them possibly to get that opportunity, Why not 00:13:35.909 --> 00:13:38.429 just stick with Dan for, you know, two, three 00:13:38.429 --> 00:13:41.529 seasons, and then go to a good franchise? You 00:13:41.529 --> 00:13:43.870 know, wait for the Eagles to come available, 00:13:44.009 --> 00:13:45.970 or, you know, the Bills to come available. Well, 00:13:45.990 --> 00:13:47.730 that's what I think some of these guys should 00:13:47.730 --> 00:13:49.409 do. The Ravens. I think that's what some of them 00:13:49.409 --> 00:13:51.389 should do. I mean, one of these guys might want 00:13:51.389 --> 00:13:53.929 to sit it out for a year, do some coordinator 00:13:53.929 --> 00:13:55.970 work for a year or two, and wait for a good gig 00:13:55.970 --> 00:13:58.700 to pop open somehow. Because you and I both know 00:13:58.700 --> 00:14:01.440 the Cardinals and Browns. Yeah, that's bad. If 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:03.720 you're Stefanski going to the Cardinals or going 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:06.360 to, you know, Tennessee, is that a good option 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:09.559 or going to Tennessee, Atlanta right now with 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:11.860 that whole situation? I wouldn't want to be going 00:14:11.860 --> 00:14:15.460 into those spots. Can I give you some interesting 00:14:15.460 --> 00:14:17.379 takes? Are you done? Do you want to talk about 00:14:17.379 --> 00:14:19.559 the coordinator stuff anymore? No, I'm good. 00:14:19.659 --> 00:14:22.460 You fire away your questions. So much questions, 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:24.799 but there's a couple of interesting statistics 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:26.679 that came out of this season, Bill. OK, great. 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:28.720 And I thought I'd fire a few of these things 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:32.259 at you. Please. So one thing right off the top, 00:14:32.279 --> 00:14:33.860 and we talked about this, they had a winning 00:14:33.860 --> 00:14:37.899 season. That's four straight, OK, consecutive 00:14:37.899 --> 00:14:40.659 winning seasons. I don't think that's ever happened 00:14:40.659 --> 00:14:44.059 in our lifetime. First time in more than 50 years. 00:14:44.639 --> 00:14:48.700 That has happened for the Lions. Now, secondarily, 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:52.860 here's an odd one. The Lions finished last in 00:14:52.860 --> 00:14:54.980 the division. The division had no losing teams, 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:56.820 by the way. Every team had a winning record, 00:14:56.840 --> 00:14:59.600 which is out of my mind bizarre. When you look 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:02.320 at the NFC South and stuff like that, and you're 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:04.840 like, how is that even possible? They would have 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:08.340 won the North or the South. Listen to this. They 00:15:08.340 --> 00:15:11.690 finished first in point differential. but finished 00:15:11.690 --> 00:15:15.610 last in the division. That's stupid. OK, that's 00:15:15.610 --> 00:15:17.409 dumb. And there was a tweet out there from Pride 00:15:17.409 --> 00:15:20.629 of Detroit. Thanks, Brian Flores. Yeah. Last 00:15:20.629 --> 00:15:22.409 in the division, first and point differential. 00:15:22.570 --> 00:15:24.809 What a wacky, stupid season. That's what his 00:15:24.809 --> 00:15:28.470 tweet was. I died laughing. The Bears. Bears. 00:15:28.610 --> 00:15:30.669 Kevin Fishbane tweets this. The Bears are the 00:15:30.669 --> 00:15:34.690 first division champ with a sub 500 record in 00:15:34.690 --> 00:15:38.549 their division since the 2010 Chiefs. That is 00:15:38.549 --> 00:15:42.809 unbelievable. And that 2010 Chiefs, AFC West 00:15:42.809 --> 00:15:45.429 was I think somewhat maligned. It usually is 00:15:45.429 --> 00:15:47.789 anyways. Bears went two and four in division 00:15:47.789 --> 00:15:52.169 this year and won it with 11 wins and got the 00:15:52.169 --> 00:15:54.769 number two seed in the NFC. Give me a break. 00:15:55.129 --> 00:15:57.929 And here's the thing. We get two teams into the 00:15:57.929 --> 00:15:59.990 playoffs. One of them's going home after week 00:15:59.990 --> 00:16:02.250 one. We don't even have good representation in 00:16:02.250 --> 00:16:05.389 the playoffs at this point because of that. That's 00:16:05.389 --> 00:16:08.649 crazy. Unlike last season, when representation 00:16:08.649 --> 00:16:11.129 was strong, three teams and still nobody went 00:16:11.129 --> 00:16:14.090 beyond the opening weekend or their first weekend. 00:16:14.330 --> 00:16:16.250 I mean, the Lions obviously had the bye, but 00:16:16.250 --> 00:16:17.669 yeah, that's true. But yeah, we had the three 00:16:17.669 --> 00:16:20.610 at the same time. The North just may be this 00:16:20.610 --> 00:16:23.009 way for a while. Yeah, Vikings are one and done. 00:16:23.009 --> 00:16:25.590 So are the Packers. Yeah. All right. Interesting 00:16:25.590 --> 00:16:28.889 tidbits. Yeah, those are good. Hey, loyal litter 00:16:28.889 --> 00:16:31.269 box listeners, we really appreciate you sticking 00:16:31.269 --> 00:16:34.549 with us for the season. We will be back in as 00:16:34.549 --> 00:16:39.169 more firings and job openings happen. So expect 00:16:39.169 --> 00:16:41.809 some off -season tidbits. We'll probably do a 00:16:41.809 --> 00:16:44.330 mock draft or two as well. Maybe talk a little 00:16:44.330 --> 00:16:46.429 bit about, you know, who might be up and coming 00:16:46.429 --> 00:16:49.769 for fantasy for next season. And we'll keep you 00:16:49.769 --> 00:16:52.450 up to date on all that. So thank you and please 00:16:52.450 --> 00:16:55.570 give our Detroit Tigers litter box a listen as 00:16:55.570 --> 00:16:58.889 well as the hot stove starts to heat up in Chet. 00:16:59.470 --> 00:17:02.470 It was a fun season. Litterbox listeners, thank 00:17:02.470 --> 00:17:06.289 you very much. Have a great off season. Go Lions!