WEBVTT 00:00:06.279 --> 00:00:11.919 This is the Litterbox, a Detroit Lions podcast 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:15.439 with your hosts, Chet West and Bill Patterson. 00:00:18.420 --> 00:00:22.019 Welcome to the Detroit Lions Litterbox. And it 00:00:22.019 --> 00:00:26.079 is with a somber tone that your hosts, Billy 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:30.079 P and Chet talk about the Thanksgiving Day. loss 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:32.719 to the Green Bay Packers who are now 3 -0 in 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:36.539 the NFC Norris and if Les the Bears sweep the 00:00:36.539 --> 00:00:40.039 Packers the division is over. The Lions are mathematically 00:00:40.039 --> 00:00:43.060 out of it and it's going to be very difficult 00:00:43.060 --> 00:00:45.939 for them to recover from this. The only saving 00:00:45.939 --> 00:00:49.060 grace is that Green Bay still has to travel to 00:00:49.060 --> 00:00:52.500 Denver who is definitely one of the three best 00:00:52.500 --> 00:00:56.609 teams in The AFC, the Lions, came up just a bit 00:00:56.609 --> 00:01:00.090 short against the Packers. They lost 31 -24. 00:01:00.829 --> 00:01:05.790 And depth and lack thereof was again a reoccurring 00:01:05.790 --> 00:01:09.549 theme. What say you? First and foremost, apparently 00:01:09.549 --> 00:01:12.230 the new thing to do in Chicago is to tear your 00:01:12.230 --> 00:01:15.290 shirt off and jump around the locker room. I 00:01:15.290 --> 00:01:17.609 couldn't believe what I saw Ben Johnson do after 00:01:17.609 --> 00:01:19.810 their win yesterday. Good win for the Bears. 00:01:20.450 --> 00:01:23.250 But I'm absolutely shocked that I saw that happen 00:01:23.250 --> 00:01:25.310 and I wanted to make sure we address that right 00:01:25.310 --> 00:01:27.769 off the bat on the show today. Do you know it 00:01:27.769 --> 00:01:30.969 dates back to his high school? Awesome. Sweet 00:01:30.969 --> 00:01:33.409 for Ben. And they won like two or three state 00:01:33.409 --> 00:01:36.250 championships and he's some country dude. You 00:01:36.250 --> 00:01:40.069 know how into country I am. Yeah. Meaning I, 00:01:40.069 --> 00:01:42.650 you know, I like the school guys for Ryan Adams, 00:01:42.890 --> 00:01:45.780 but not - Yeah, yeah. pop garbage. Anyway, one 00:01:45.780 --> 00:01:47.500 of those guys was his high school teammate as 00:01:47.500 --> 00:01:51.019 well. Ah, okay. And he does it with his band 00:01:51.019 --> 00:01:53.959 before they go on stage every show. Here's the 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:57.560 deal. It's love that the Bears and the city of 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:01.060 Chicago have a team that is somewhat respectable 00:02:01.060 --> 00:02:03.939 again. On that note, they have played one of 00:02:03.939 --> 00:02:06.439 the weaker schedules I've seen in quite some 00:02:06.439 --> 00:02:09.879 time and they have been so fortunate. To get 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:12.080 some of these teams at the right time. They got 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:15.080 the Cowboys at the right time They got the Eagles 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:17.539 at the right time. They got the commanders at 00:02:17.539 --> 00:02:20.199 the right time It's kind of incredible if you 00:02:20.199 --> 00:02:22.340 look up and down their schedule bill look up 00:02:22.340 --> 00:02:24.740 and down their schedule It's crazy when they've 00:02:24.740 --> 00:02:27.439 gotten to play some of these teams and it's the 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:29.120 difference between a first -place schedule I 00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:31.560 understand I understand that but what I'm saying 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:33.219 is let's not get too excited if you're a Bears 00:02:33.219 --> 00:02:35.520 fan right now No, I get it. They're nine and 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:38.580 three. It's great. Great defense of all time 00:02:38.729 --> 00:02:43.009 They got five. They have five games left. And 00:02:43.009 --> 00:02:44.710 these are going to be some of their most challenging 00:02:44.710 --> 00:02:46.689 games of the season. So we'll see what happens. 00:02:46.849 --> 00:02:49.509 I'll be curious to see how they end the season. 00:02:49.650 --> 00:02:52.169 They have nine wins right now. OK, you said a 00:02:52.169 --> 00:02:53.969 lot. Which is incredible. I want to just make 00:02:53.969 --> 00:02:58.280 a couple of comments. Yes. One. is there ever 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:00.199 a bad time to play the commanders this year? 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:03.939 No, there never is. To the t -shirt references, 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:07.379 I have a 1985 Chicago Bears t -shirt that says 00:03:07.379 --> 00:03:09.439 greatest defense ever for the listeners that 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:11.900 can't see it. Those are in Bears gear now because 00:03:11.900 --> 00:03:14.080 he has completely jumped ship on our Lions for 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:16.159 the season. I've lived in Chicago longer than 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:19.180 I ever did Detroit. And then last point on this 00:03:19.180 --> 00:03:21.740 is if you're a Lions fan and want them to make 00:03:21.740 --> 00:03:24.189 the playoffs, You better be cheering for the 00:03:24.189 --> 00:03:27.009 Bears because it's probably true. The Packers 00:03:27.009 --> 00:03:29.710 are now three and oh in the division. The Bears 00:03:29.710 --> 00:03:33.729 are one and one. Excuse me. The Bears are one 00:03:33.729 --> 00:03:37.849 and two and the Lions are also one and two. Our 00:03:37.849 --> 00:03:40.069 choices as to who we cheer for at this point 00:03:40.069 --> 00:03:45.330 narrowed down. In your Minnesota Vikings, J .J. 00:03:45.430 --> 00:03:48.169 McCarthy is now in concussion protocol, so they're 00:03:48.169 --> 00:03:50.469 starting whom? I think it's going to be the kid 00:03:50.469 --> 00:03:53.370 from Minnesota. What's his name? Brosmer? Yeah, 00:03:53.469 --> 00:03:56.770 Brosmer. Oh, Lord. So hoping that the Vikings 00:03:56.770 --> 00:03:58.610 pull a rabbit out of the hat is probably not 00:03:58.610 --> 00:04:01.129 realistic. So let's talk a little bit about the 00:04:01.129 --> 00:04:03.169 game. You want to get back to the Lions is what 00:04:03.169 --> 00:04:05.629 you're saying. I get it. You asked me a question. 00:04:05.710 --> 00:04:07.590 What's going on? What's happening? You know, 00:04:07.610 --> 00:04:11.319 I don't I think for me, Bill. And I'm going to 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:13.759 return a question here in a minute. A lot of 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:16.819 what I see happening out there is on the defense 00:04:16.819 --> 00:04:21.339 a little bit. We had one game recently against 00:04:21.339 --> 00:04:23.100 the Eagles where we were like, oh, the defense 00:04:23.100 --> 00:04:25.439 was incredible. I don't know about that. After 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:26.920 watching the Eagles last couple of weeks, I'm 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:29.319 wondering if maybe their offense is just really 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:33.620 struggling right now. We kind of got the benefit 00:04:33.620 --> 00:04:36.180 of holding a struggling offense to 16 points 00:04:36.180 --> 00:04:38.120 right as they started their massive struggle. 00:04:38.300 --> 00:04:42.199 One of the things that bothers me right now about 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:46.579 what I'm seeing is we seem very inflexible with 00:04:46.579 --> 00:04:50.220 our strategy on defense. This man defense. How 00:04:50.220 --> 00:04:53.540 would you grade our defense, Bill? Top to bottom, 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:56.850 what would you say? Do we have... The most talented 00:04:56.850 --> 00:04:59.050 players in the league in our defensive backfield 00:04:59.050 --> 00:05:00.970 r &d line our linebackers. Do we have a middle 00:05:00.970 --> 00:05:03.430 of the road? Do we have are we bad in some areas? 00:05:03.529 --> 00:05:05.470 What would you think? How would you break our 00:05:05.470 --> 00:05:08.129 defense down? We're a B minus and I would be 00:05:08.129 --> 00:05:10.649 minus Elevate that grade of Kirby Joseph had 00:05:10.649 --> 00:05:13.250 played at any point in the last you give it what 00:05:13.250 --> 00:05:15.689 a B You'd say we're about a B defensive curve 00:05:15.689 --> 00:05:18.170 playing. I mean, he's an all -pro safety And 00:05:18.170 --> 00:05:21.029 yeah, quite frankly the only guys that are really 00:05:21.029 --> 00:05:25.540 playing above average There are Brian Branch 00:05:25.540 --> 00:05:28.220 and Jack Campbell. Everybody else is just a guy 00:05:28.220 --> 00:05:31.199 out there. Sure. The PFF grades support that. 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:34.259 I think Branch has to do too much without his 00:05:34.259 --> 00:05:36.079 running mate back there. I think Thomas Harper 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:38.500 has been a nice story. Second year player from 00:05:38.500 --> 00:05:42.160 Notre Dame, number 12, but he is not a replacement 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:44.579 level player when you're losing a Kirby Joseph. 00:05:44.860 --> 00:05:48.319 And so again, this comes back to depth. Why Brad 00:05:48.319 --> 00:05:51.759 Holmes was allergic to signing another pass rusher. 00:05:52.009 --> 00:05:54.930 Opposite Aiden Hutchinson and Brad we weren't 00:05:54.930 --> 00:05:57.310 asking you to sign Myles Garrett. We were asking 00:05:57.310 --> 00:06:00.569 you to sign somebody other than Marcus Davenport 00:06:00.569 --> 00:06:06.629 and Josh Paschal. And by the way, Marcus Davenport 00:06:06.629 --> 00:06:09.689 played and I am looking down the box score right 00:06:09.689 --> 00:06:14.370 now. He doesn't show. He doesn't show. He didn't 00:06:14.370 --> 00:06:16.490 do anything. He didn't have a tackle. He played 00:06:16.490 --> 00:06:20.350 a total of 23 snaps and he did, he kind of just 00:06:20.350 --> 00:06:22.829 sat there. He didn't do much out on his edge 00:06:22.829 --> 00:06:25.790 there. So I get where you're going with that. 00:06:25.850 --> 00:06:27.589 He was kind of man, like, I didn't even know 00:06:27.589 --> 00:06:29.529 he was playing until we got halfway through the 00:06:29.529 --> 00:06:31.129 first half. I'm like, oh, Marcus Davenport's 00:06:31.129 --> 00:06:34.149 out there. The Packers did a great job eliminating 00:06:34.149 --> 00:06:39.050 the interior. So Roy Lopez, DJ Reader, and Tylek 00:06:39.050 --> 00:06:41.759 Williams were all non -factors. And I'm sorry, 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:45.300 but our guy, Bob Muhammad, was a great story. 00:06:45.779 --> 00:06:48.000 But there's a reason he's a journeyman at age 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:51.060 30 in the NFL, and the book's out on him, you 00:06:51.060 --> 00:06:53.540 know? A couple other things that were kind of 00:06:53.540 --> 00:06:57.180 just eye -opening. We saw Vahki not only playing 00:06:57.180 --> 00:06:59.660 special teams, but coming in in dime packages. 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:02.319 So he's back to what he was doing when he was 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:06.560 in Utah. Teron Arnold was back. He was good, 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:08.699 I thought. Amique Robertson played as well as 00:07:08.699 --> 00:07:12.360 he could. But we miss Kirby Joseph back there 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:16.579 and, and Brad Holmes' reluctance to build edge 00:07:16.579 --> 00:07:19.699 depth or to provide another weapon outside of 00:07:19.699 --> 00:07:24.600 Aiden Hutchinson is ruining itself. And I just, 00:07:24.939 --> 00:07:28.519 I'm really, I think Brad thought he was the smartest 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:30.720 guy in the room. And I've already talked about 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:34.339 the 2024 draft and what a whiff that was. And 00:07:34.339 --> 00:07:36.720 if you're going to trade the capital that was 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:41.639 traded again for Isaac Cole. Tesla, and then 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:45.120 have him have a stat line, two catches for 35 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:48.199 yards. He did have a touchdown, but outside, 00:07:48.740 --> 00:07:53.000 Tom Kennedy, TK85, had more targets and more 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:58.459 catches than Isaac Koleslaw did, Chet. Jared 00:07:58.459 --> 00:08:00.860 Goff had nobody to throw to. Jameson Williams, 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:05.839 seven catches, 144 yards, had a long of 44 touchdown. 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:09.639 He was great. He did drop that fourth down pass, 00:08:09.660 --> 00:08:13.240 but, I mean, there was some trickeration as well, 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:15.579 and I'll get into that in a minute, where Montgomery 00:08:15.579 --> 00:08:19.379 threw a perfect pass to Jared Goff, and he just 00:08:19.379 --> 00:08:21.500 dropped it. Goff's not playing like himself, 00:08:21.540 --> 00:08:23.620 and part of the reason is offensive line depth. 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.000 Can you talk a little bit about the surprise 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:29.759 at center for this game? Yeah, you know, I didn't 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:32.220 realize that Glasgow wasn't going to be playing. 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:37.509 I see that Mr. Colon got to play, and... He immediately 00:08:37.509 --> 00:08:41.610 rolled up on a one Amon Ra Saint Brown within 00:08:41.610 --> 00:08:43.549 the first couple series of the game and knocked 00:08:43.549 --> 00:08:46.230 Amon Ra out for the for the game. Not his fault. 00:08:46.330 --> 00:08:49.070 I mean, these things just happen, but it sort 00:08:49.070 --> 00:08:53.289 of stunk to see that and Cologne struggled. He 00:08:53.289 --> 00:08:57.730 he did. He was as effective as Glasgow, put it 00:08:57.730 --> 00:09:02.350 that way, which may be more indicative of how 00:09:02.350 --> 00:09:04.830 useless Glasgow is at the center position at 00:09:04.830 --> 00:09:08.470 this point. But so Wednesday before the game, 00:09:08.470 --> 00:09:12.809 we got news that our guy, Frank Ragnow, is coming 00:09:12.809 --> 00:09:16.230 out of retirement when he plays, whether it's 00:09:16.230 --> 00:09:17.929 this week against the Cowboys, the week following 00:09:17.929 --> 00:09:20.350 against Matthew Stafford and the Rams. We don't 00:09:20.350 --> 00:09:23.549 know that yet. Is it helpful? Yes. And I was 00:09:23.549 --> 00:09:26.090 accused of being a wet blanket and negative bill 00:09:26.090 --> 00:09:29.029 because everybody else on our Lions text chains 00:09:29.029 --> 00:09:31.750 was doing cartwheels over this. And my point 00:09:31.750 --> 00:09:34.450 was this. If you lose the Packers game, the division's 00:09:34.450 --> 00:09:36.309 already over, so then you're fighting for a wild 00:09:36.309 --> 00:09:38.370 card. Does he help and is he an upgrade over 00:09:38.370 --> 00:09:41.450 Graham Glasgow? Absolutely. But the fact it remains, 00:09:41.649 --> 00:09:44.070 he retired for a reason, and what's to prevent 00:09:44.070 --> 00:09:49.009 him from retiring again? And how long is it going 00:09:49.009 --> 00:09:52.740 to take the team to assimilate? back to him. 00:09:53.139 --> 00:09:56.820 And again, I think when 53 guys are in perfect 00:09:56.820 --> 00:09:58.860 health, which is never going to happen in the 00:09:58.860 --> 00:10:01.220 NFL, Brad Holmes can assemble a good roster. 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:03.779 But the difference between Brad Holmes and a 00:10:03.779 --> 00:10:07.759 less need or Howie Roseman is that he doesn't 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:10.460 build a 53 man roster. He's good at building 00:10:10.460 --> 00:10:14.519 a 38 man roster or a 40 man roster. And he's 00:10:14.519 --> 00:10:18.019 really struggled. and gets cute trading away 00:10:18.019 --> 00:10:21.399 valuable picks that could be depth pieces. And, 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:23.899 you know, I'm real concerned that the window 00:10:23.899 --> 00:10:27.259 is closing on this Lions team. The window is 00:10:27.259 --> 00:10:30.100 probably closing for this season. I'm not gonna 00:10:30.100 --> 00:10:32.159 give up on them for the future. I'm not gonna 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:35.379 give up on this window, this... Super Bowl window 00:10:35.379 --> 00:10:38.399 everybody wants to talk about. I think this season's 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:40.639 been a rough one. You had total turnover in the 00:10:40.639 --> 00:10:43.639 coaching staff. You lost an all pro center who 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:47.080 is now coming back and let's see what happens 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:49.399 with that. I am concerned about the health of 00:10:49.399 --> 00:10:53.000 Jared Goff. The guy is literally his time to 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:56.019 throw stats are abysmally low. He gets about 00:10:56.019 --> 00:10:58.720 two and a half seconds to throw. We had one pass 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:01.649 over 20 yards in this game. We were down. We 00:11:01.649 --> 00:11:04.750 were playing from behind. We had one pass over 00:11:04.750 --> 00:11:08.450 20 yards. We at least had eight attempts over 00:11:08.450 --> 00:11:13.169 10 yards. That's better than what we were doing. 00:11:13.590 --> 00:11:15.629 We didn't throw too many balls behind the line 00:11:15.629 --> 00:11:17.649 of scrimmage like we did in the previous week 00:11:17.649 --> 00:11:22.710 against the Giants. We had a ton of short, 12 00:11:22.710 --> 00:11:26.309 short passes over the middle. Within 10 yards 00:11:26.309 --> 00:11:28.690 that's just indicative of hot routes and needing 00:11:28.690 --> 00:11:31.730 to get rid of the ball He doesn't have time our 00:11:31.730 --> 00:11:34.629 pass blocking stats are terrible across the board 00:11:34.629 --> 00:11:39.289 our PFF grades are awful. I watched Taylor Decker 00:11:39.289 --> 00:11:42.730 Commit the ultimate sin and he just whiffed on 00:11:42.730 --> 00:11:45.700 Micah Parsons on a block in this game, and it 00:11:45.700 --> 00:11:47.860 was I would be embarrassed if I was Taylor Decker. 00:11:47.899 --> 00:11:50.700 You're all pro left tackle. I get it. Mike Parsons. 00:11:50.700 --> 00:11:54.360 Good. OK, he's great. You whiffed so badly that 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:57.100 you almost got your quarterback killed. That's 00:11:57.100 --> 00:11:59.200 the type of thing that when Jared Goff drops 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:01.620 back to throw and he's got that in the back of 00:12:01.620 --> 00:12:03.919 his mind that his left tackle can't cover his 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:06.960 backside anymore, he's going to be happy feet. 00:12:07.059 --> 00:12:09.740 How are you mentally getting over that? That's 00:12:09.740 --> 00:12:11.899 amazing. Goff can even drop back and pass a ball 00:12:11.899 --> 00:12:15.279 at this point. So. I see that stuff. And then 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:19.019 I look at the Packers, you know, there when Jordan 00:12:19.019 --> 00:12:21.860 Love dropped back under pressure, hit three and 00:12:21.860 --> 00:12:24.080 a half seconds to throw the ball under pressure. 00:12:24.139 --> 00:12:27.559 That's amazing. How does he have that much time? 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:31.220 Well, we'll go back over to our defense. Bill, 00:12:31.500 --> 00:12:34.399 is the man defense good for this group of players? 00:12:34.700 --> 00:12:37.580 I asked you about what you thought of the quality 00:12:37.580 --> 00:12:40.259 of our defense because I'm curious to know, can 00:12:40.259 --> 00:12:42.659 you run man defense with the quality we have 00:12:42.659 --> 00:12:44.659 out there and the ability and the skill sets 00:12:44.659 --> 00:12:47.460 of these players? I don't think you can. No, 00:12:47.500 --> 00:12:50.080 to answer your question in short, I think Kelvin 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:53.159 Shepherd's lack of experience being the D coordinator 00:12:53.159 --> 00:12:57.200 and being married to this man to man is costly. 00:12:57.539 --> 00:13:00.019 We have no flexibility. Well, it's also costly 00:13:00.019 --> 00:13:03.120 for the fact that you and I both think highly 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:07.179 of Aiden Hutchinson. Is he Micah Parson's Miles 00:13:07.179 --> 00:13:10.559 Garrett level? No, but he's the next tier down, 00:13:10.580 --> 00:13:14.360 which is good enough. The problem is he needs 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:18.820 another guy to help him. And for whatever reason, 00:13:19.419 --> 00:13:21.700 the Lions thought that Marcus Davenport and Josh 00:13:21.700 --> 00:13:25.299 Paschal were the answers. They've even slid Aleem 00:13:25.299 --> 00:13:28.320 McNeil over to one of the edge spots, which is 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:31.600 It weakens you in two areas, Chet, because then 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:34.080 you're taking one of your best run stuffers and 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:36.019 moving them to the edge, which isn't a natural 00:13:36.019 --> 00:13:38.539 position. So no, I don't think this works. And 00:13:38.539 --> 00:13:40.639 do you think my B minus was harsh? I mean, what 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:42.940 did you? No, I think it was, I think you were 00:13:42.940 --> 00:13:45.700 way above. I think they're about a C plus ability 00:13:45.700 --> 00:13:48.759 wise across the board and you cannot run man. 00:13:49.269 --> 00:13:51.909 Every play and be that dedicated to a man defense 00:13:51.909 --> 00:13:54.889 when you do not have players of a high level 00:13:54.889 --> 00:13:57.350 of skill We don't have a D back who is a high 00:13:57.350 --> 00:13:59.529 level of skill. We do not have one. We don't 00:13:59.529 --> 00:14:01.730 have a corner That's a high level of skill you 00:14:01.730 --> 00:14:03.990 put those guys on an island in man and they just 00:14:03.990 --> 00:14:07.110 get beat up game in and game out That we could 00:14:07.110 --> 00:14:11.179 have JC horn and ps2 back there And if the pass 00:14:11.179 --> 00:14:15.779 rush isn't getting home and Jordan Love or or 00:14:15.779 --> 00:14:19.580 Marcus Mariota or Jalen Hurts are allowed a lot 00:14:19.580 --> 00:14:21.720 of time to throw, they're going to get picked 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:24.559 apart. I mean, there's a problem there. It is. 00:14:24.980 --> 00:14:28.019 I will give you your pass rush issues, but there 00:14:28.019 --> 00:14:31.059 is a product of this man defense and the predictability 00:14:31.059 --> 00:14:34.059 of it. Sure. Offenses can set up and play against 00:14:34.059 --> 00:14:37.139 to stymie a pass rush. For instance, if you're 00:14:37.139 --> 00:14:40.320 a man D. And you want to keep those edge rushers 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:43.120 at home or keep them from going full on pursuit 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:46.259 throw screen passes all day long out into the 00:14:46.259 --> 00:14:48.460 flat. And that's what these teams are doing to 00:14:48.460 --> 00:14:52.179 us. Run the ball up the gut all day long if that's 00:14:52.179 --> 00:14:54.639 what you want to do. Josh Jacobs, Saquon Barkley. 00:14:54.899 --> 00:14:57.240 You can flip that ball out to those guys and 00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:00.600 our pass rush is instantaneous. It's just instantly 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:05.919 mitigated. Yeah. And we don't have now if you 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:09.879 have a I don't know. Fred Warner, okay, you had 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:12.580 a Fred Warner in your linebacking core that can 00:15:12.580 --> 00:15:16.320 cover a running back cover a tight end Like a 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:19.220 d -back can you can do that all day long? You 00:15:19.220 --> 00:15:21.399 can rely on those linebackers to pick those guys 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:23.480 up. We don't have that We don't have a linebacking 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:26.179 core that can cover this one their life. We have 00:15:26.179 --> 00:15:31.179 one Who we can one Campbell but Campbell in past 00:15:31.179 --> 00:15:34.659 coverage though? He's okay, but he's not great. 00:15:34.779 --> 00:15:37.690 He's good enough to cover a tight end or you 00:15:37.690 --> 00:15:41.470 know, a back out of the slot, but he can't cover 00:15:41.470 --> 00:15:44.090 a slot receiver. I mean, outside of Fred Warner, 00:15:44.350 --> 00:15:46.649 very few can. Anytime this season when teams 00:15:46.649 --> 00:15:49.649 have got out there around the edges on us, it's 00:15:49.649 --> 00:15:52.570 hurt a lot and it spreads us out, takes that 00:15:52.570 --> 00:15:55.389 man defense and it just puts people on an island. 00:15:55.929 --> 00:15:59.350 And these are guys like Mollet, who's gone. But 00:15:59.350 --> 00:16:01.830 now you've got Harper back there on an island. 00:16:02.289 --> 00:16:04.649 You get the deep ball. You get the big play. 00:16:04.730 --> 00:16:09.029 We get burned by that a lot. And it's just because 00:16:09.029 --> 00:16:10.730 these guys are out there by themselves and they 00:16:10.730 --> 00:16:13.190 don't have the ability to play man against Christian 00:16:13.190 --> 00:16:15.690 Watson and dubs and all these other guys that 00:16:15.690 --> 00:16:18.169 were getting thrown at us who aren't even that 00:16:18.169 --> 00:16:20.889 great. I mean, let's be honest. Sure, sure. But 00:16:20.889 --> 00:16:23.009 those guys shouldn't are guys that are playing 00:16:23.009 --> 00:16:24.830 in the defensive backfield should not be starting 00:16:24.830 --> 00:16:27.480 games in the NFL. The Packers' best receiver 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:29.539 is Jaden Reed, and he didn't even play. Those 00:16:29.539 --> 00:16:33.320 are practice squad players that we have on our 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:35.600 defensive backfield right now. Amique Robertson, 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:37.559 for all the love we give Amique on this show, 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:41.580 Amique is not good, okay? Amique is like a backup 00:16:41.580 --> 00:16:44.169 corner. That's it. He's not your one and he's 00:16:44.169 --> 00:16:46.230 not your two. He's like a backup corner. He's 00:16:46.230 --> 00:16:48.289 your slot corner. I mean, he's supposed to be 00:16:48.289 --> 00:16:50.110 your third guy. You can call him your slot corner, 00:16:50.149 --> 00:16:53.289 but he's not a guy you put out on an island against 00:16:53.289 --> 00:16:55.409 one of these top receivers. No, which goes back 00:16:55.409 --> 00:16:57.429 to your man -to -man versus his own. Exactly. 00:16:57.669 --> 00:17:00.850 We don't have the ability. He needs help in the 00:17:00.850 --> 00:17:05.789 drop off between a Kirby Joseph. to a Thomas 00:17:05.789 --> 00:17:08.349 Harper is noticeable. And I give Thomas Harper 00:17:08.349 --> 00:17:11.029 bouquets. I think he could be a nice piece, depth 00:17:11.029 --> 00:17:14.109 piece for this team going forward. They ran Dubes 00:17:14.109 --> 00:17:16.509 and Watson in motion on the goal line yesterday, 00:17:16.609 --> 00:17:20.069 right before we got jobbed on the timeout with 00:17:20.069 --> 00:17:22.190 the false start that everybody's raging about. 00:17:22.369 --> 00:17:24.809 And yeah, that was a terrible call. Really odd 00:17:24.809 --> 00:17:27.400 that they got that timeout in there. We don't 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:29.740 you know, we're not into blaming the rest for 00:17:29.740 --> 00:17:31.859 every loss we take but that was a really bad 00:17:31.859 --> 00:17:34.079 egregious call that basically gave the Packers 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:37.359 a do -over right there that They ran that against 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:39.500 man because they knew they're in man coverage. 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:41.380 They're gonna stay in man coverage These guys 00:17:41.380 --> 00:17:44.559 are gonna stick with their guy and they ran that 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:46.900 route into the corner into the side right on 00:17:46.900 --> 00:17:49.579 the pylon there and Our man coverage couldn't 00:17:49.579 --> 00:17:51.619 stick with it. They need to switch into a zone 00:17:51.619 --> 00:17:54.740 there Switch it up, but they didn't do it They 00:17:54.740 --> 00:17:56.759 had a guy going underneath that just threw us 00:17:56.759 --> 00:17:58.740 for a loop and that we have no defense that can 00:17:58.740 --> 00:18:01.160 cover that if you're a man Doesn't work. I don't 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:03.279 care how good your guys are they have to be Superman 00:18:03.279 --> 00:18:07.420 So why I think the window I I hope I'm wrong 00:18:07.420 --> 00:18:09.579 on this and again, I'm not trying to be negative 00:18:09.579 --> 00:18:12.460 But I just want to talk about what's coming down 00:18:12.460 --> 00:18:16.059 Jared Goff is going to be very well compensated 00:18:16.059 --> 00:18:18.759 next year. The Lions punted that down the line. 00:18:18.940 --> 00:18:22.119 So he's going to be a cap hit of over 60 million. 00:18:23.259 --> 00:18:27.240 And then you've also paid St. Brown. You have 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:31.259 paid Jamo. We've talked about Deckers in the 00:18:31.259 --> 00:18:33.940 twilight of his career. He's playing Hurt. You've 00:18:33.940 --> 00:18:36.779 paid Sewell. So the Lions are really kind of 00:18:36.779 --> 00:18:39.599 up against it, Chet. And the fact that... You 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:42.019 probably have to make decisions on Graham Glasgow. 00:18:42.099 --> 00:18:44.640 You have to make a decision on Taylor Decker. 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:47.119 So that's two offensive linemen. Hold on. Let 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:50.079 me keep going on this. David Montgomery is another 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:51.740 one you're going to have to make a decision on. 00:18:52.019 --> 00:18:54.940 DJ Reader is out. Roy Lopez is probably out. 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:57.119 He's going to get paid. He's played well. Alex 00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:00.299 Zaloni is out. I don't think Derek Barnes is 00:19:00.299 --> 00:19:02.980 anything more than a replacement guy. I've never 00:19:02.980 --> 00:19:06.130 been a Malcolm Rodriguez fan. So where I'm going 00:19:06.130 --> 00:19:08.009 with, uh, Meek Robertson is going to be a free 00:19:08.009 --> 00:19:10.849 agent as well, is you've got a lot of holes to 00:19:10.849 --> 00:19:14.250 fill and I don't see a lot of youth outside of 00:19:14.250 --> 00:19:18.890 maybe Tidelik and Aleem McNeil coming up from 00:19:18.890 --> 00:19:21.309 within. You know, Christian Mahogany should be 00:19:21.309 --> 00:19:23.009 one of the guards. Ratledge should be the other. 00:19:23.109 --> 00:19:24.829 I don't know what they do with Miles Frazier, 00:19:24.849 --> 00:19:27.849 but I don't think he's a left tackle caliber. 00:19:28.009 --> 00:19:30.410 You don't draft a starting left tackle in the 00:19:30.410 --> 00:19:33.569 fifth round like the Lions did. So I know the 00:19:33.569 --> 00:19:36.009 Lions have a draft next year, but I'm starting 00:19:36.009 --> 00:19:38.690 to sense that there's a lot more holes that need 00:19:38.690 --> 00:19:42.589 to be filled than capital that might be available. 00:19:42.789 --> 00:19:43.970 You know, Mel, I don't think you're the only 00:19:43.970 --> 00:19:46.950 one out there starting to poke a few holes in 00:19:46.950 --> 00:19:50.109 how the Brad Holmes regime has drafted over the 00:19:50.109 --> 00:19:53.589 last year or two here. It's interesting when 00:19:53.589 --> 00:19:56.589 you look at it to see that we're trying to fill 00:19:56.589 --> 00:19:59.390 major spots on the O -line with third, fourth, 00:19:59.390 --> 00:20:01.329 fifth round draft picks. That's going to be a 00:20:01.329 --> 00:20:03.960 gamble. no matter how you slice it, they are 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:07.039 going to have to draft probably a left tackle 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:09.640 in the first round next year, I think. They're 00:20:09.640 --> 00:20:11.240 going to have to take care of that position because 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:13.599 I don't think Decker is long for it at this juncture. 00:20:13.980 --> 00:20:15.839 If they don't draft one, they're going to have 00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:18.000 to find a free agent and there really isn't much 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:21.579 on the market right now coming up for that. Then 00:20:21.579 --> 00:20:24.799 you're in the very small percentage zone of swinging 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:26.859 a trade, which I don't even know if homes can 00:20:26.859 --> 00:20:31.059 handle that. I would trust him more to draft 00:20:31.059 --> 00:20:35.019 one than anything else But you're gonna you know, 00:20:35.339 --> 00:20:36.920 but then you got to start thinking about center 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:38.859 and rag now is rag now around for another two 00:20:38.859 --> 00:20:40.400 to three seasons That'd be great. He's still 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:42.539 29 years old. I mean he could stick around for 00:20:42.539 --> 00:20:46.440 a bit, right? Yeah. Oh Maybe we've got him For 00:20:46.440 --> 00:20:48.259 another couple, maybe he's had some, you know, 00:20:48.259 --> 00:20:50.119 he's had some time off. He's got healthy. He 00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:51.460 feels good. He wants to come back. We'll see 00:20:51.460 --> 00:20:53.839 how that goes. But can you lean on that? I don't 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:56.180 know. Is Tristan Colon going to learn on the 00:20:56.180 --> 00:20:59.079 job? My joke is he got tired of chatting with 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:02.119 the other moms and dads in the pickup line, in 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:03.859 preschool or school or wherever his kids are 00:21:03.859 --> 00:21:05.500 at. He's like, yeah, I gotta get back out there. 00:21:05.500 --> 00:21:07.380 He's like, I just missed the locker room and 00:21:07.380 --> 00:21:09.859 talking to Hutch. Who knows? Who knows what life 00:21:09.859 --> 00:21:12.079 is like for a guy who just suddenly decides to 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:14.640 go back to the real world, right? But at the 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:17.380 same time, I wonder what are they going to do 00:21:17.380 --> 00:21:19.359 about that spot? So we have, and then like left 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:21.799 guard isn't settled. Just because we've got some 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:23.819 young guys, I haven't seen any of them really 00:21:23.819 --> 00:21:26.500 step up majorly. Now, again, I'm of the belief 00:21:26.500 --> 00:21:28.779 that Offensive linemen take time to develop so 00:21:28.779 --> 00:21:31.319 one of those guys may pop here pretty soon and 00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:33.539 be serviceable I like the right side of our line 00:21:33.539 --> 00:21:35.579 right now with Sewell and Ratledge. I'm okay 00:21:35.579 --> 00:21:38.180 with where that stands I think Ratledge would 00:21:38.180 --> 00:21:40.579 benefit majorly from having a capable center 00:21:40.579 --> 00:21:43.880 I'll be very curious to see how Ratledge's career 00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:47.400 trajectory goes once rag now is humming and next 00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:50.940 to him playing like that may be a an interesting 00:21:50.940 --> 00:21:54.839 telltale for Ratledge and his ability. How does 00:21:54.839 --> 00:21:56.700 he do when he has a capable center next to him? 00:21:57.140 --> 00:21:59.019 And for that matter, how does one of those young 00:21:59.019 --> 00:22:00.940 guys do as a left guard with a capable center 00:22:00.940 --> 00:22:03.420 next to him? Who knows? We're going to find out 00:22:03.420 --> 00:22:05.839 as soon as he comes back. So that'll be this 00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:08.539 season. What do you see for Dallas, Bill? OK, 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:11.160 so we've got five games left. Mathematically, 00:22:11.299 --> 00:22:13.910 the Lions have to win four of them. If they only 00:22:13.910 --> 00:22:16.230 win three, they're going to need an abundance 00:22:16.230 --> 00:22:19.190 of help to make the playoffs. And that's a nervous 00:22:19.190 --> 00:22:21.289 proposition and position will keep you updated 00:22:21.289 --> 00:22:24.910 fans. The Cowboys come to Ford Field. It's a 00:22:24.910 --> 00:22:26.849 Thursday night game. So the Lions do get a full 00:22:26.849 --> 00:22:28.970 week of recovery. The Lions are favored by three 00:22:28.970 --> 00:22:31.849 and a half points. The total is fifty four and 00:22:31.849 --> 00:22:33.890 a half, which I agree with. I do think this is 00:22:33.890 --> 00:22:36.410 going to be like a thirty four, thirty one, thirty 00:22:36.410 --> 00:22:39.150 one, twenty eight type of game. If you're into 00:22:39.150 --> 00:22:42.390 the money line, Dallas plus one fifty five. The 00:22:42.390 --> 00:22:44.569 Cowboys are playing really well. They beat the 00:22:44.569 --> 00:22:46.789 Chiefs on Thanksgiving Day. The previous week 00:22:46.789 --> 00:22:50.390 they found some spirit. They erased a 21 point 00:22:50.390 --> 00:22:55.730 deficit against the sagging Philadelphia Eagles. 00:22:56.170 --> 00:22:58.210 So this is the wrong time to play the Cowboys. 00:22:58.529 --> 00:23:00.190 I much would have rather played them earlier 00:23:00.190 --> 00:23:01.829 in the year, like you mentioned, when the Bears 00:23:01.829 --> 00:23:04.190 played them. But unfortunately, that's not when 00:23:04.190 --> 00:23:06.680 we're getting them. A Dak Prescott's firing on 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:09.180 all cylinders. Williams is a really good running 00:23:09.180 --> 00:23:11.500 back. And then George Pickens looks to be one 00:23:11.500 --> 00:23:13.920 of the best, if not best, receivers in the league. 00:23:14.500 --> 00:23:16.660 I think this comes down to two things, Chet. 00:23:16.759 --> 00:23:20.119 Can Kelvin Sheppard and MCDC come up with a different 00:23:20.119 --> 00:23:22.700 plan, zone, something to slow down the passing 00:23:22.700 --> 00:23:25.319 game of the Cowboys and slow down that offense? 00:23:25.339 --> 00:23:27.180 At least mix it up, right? Give it to a little 00:23:27.180 --> 00:23:29.180 man, do a little zone. Give us a dynamic look. 00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:32.019 That wouldn't be too bad. The other one is, does 00:23:32.019 --> 00:23:34.519 Ragnar play? And if he does, is he effective? 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:39.779 And then last is if St. Brown doesn't play, this 00:23:39.779 --> 00:23:43.500 offense is limited. Tom Kennedy is a special 00:23:43.500 --> 00:23:47.420 team. You and Tom Kennedy. A lot of people love 00:23:47.420 --> 00:23:50.339 Tom Kennedy. You have a thing. You just dislike 00:23:50.339 --> 00:23:52.099 him. It's like all of a sudden he's not the guy, 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:54.259 but you're OK accepting a Meek Robertson in our 00:23:54.259 --> 00:23:57.619 defensive backfield. I get it. I see where you're 00:23:57.619 --> 00:23:59.339 at. But I do think Tom Kennedy is probably a 00:23:59.339 --> 00:24:00.980 better kick and punt returner than what we've 00:24:00.980 --> 00:24:03.279 seen so far this season. I'll take Khalid for 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:04.819 Raymond. We did a pretty good job on special 00:24:04.819 --> 00:24:08.440 teams there. All day, any day. So with no Raymond 00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:12.539 and no St. Brown, no Laporta, we don't have enough 00:24:12.539 --> 00:24:17.779 weapons. I think there is a call to finally see 00:24:17.779 --> 00:24:21.180 Tesla step up here. I know that you're kind of... 00:24:21.130 --> 00:24:24.849 Not in on him. I saw him make a few bad. I think 00:24:24.849 --> 00:24:26.910 it was Jameson Williams touchdown when he whiffed 00:24:26.910 --> 00:24:28.369 on like three, but he just couldn't find some 00:24:28.369 --> 00:24:30.710 of your block. It was very weird to watch, actually. 00:24:30.789 --> 00:24:33.369 And Jamo made the play. What we saw there was 00:24:33.369 --> 00:24:35.130 how good Jamo can be when the ball gets into 00:24:35.130 --> 00:24:36.849 his hands. We also saw him drop a couple more 00:24:36.849 --> 00:24:39.150 balls yesterday. It was like, what's going on? 00:24:39.190 --> 00:24:41.029 Like we had one that he should have caught for 00:24:41.029 --> 00:24:42.789 a first down at a critical point in the game. 00:24:42.930 --> 00:24:45.130 And it wasn't the greatest pass from golf. It 00:24:45.130 --> 00:24:46.710 was behind him a little. But you know what? You're 00:24:46.710 --> 00:24:48.210 going to make millions. You better make that 00:24:48.210 --> 00:24:51.759 catch. Both hands got on that ball. Couldn't, 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:55.220 couldn't agree more. And the other thing is the 00:24:55.220 --> 00:24:59.279 Cowboys traded Parsons and then quickly upgraded 00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:01.759 their defensive line with Quinn and Williams 00:25:01.759 --> 00:25:05.660 from the Jets. And then they also, you know, 00:25:05.779 --> 00:25:08.519 acquired the Packers big run stopper as well. 00:25:08.579 --> 00:25:11.420 And so their D line's now actually a strength. 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:14.470 So if the Lions can't run the ball on them. We 00:25:14.470 --> 00:25:16.630 could have a long day. I would like to see Gibbs, 00:25:16.630 --> 00:25:18.930 you know, flexed out on screens and get more 00:25:18.930 --> 00:25:21.329 involved in that same thing with Monty. But if 00:25:21.329 --> 00:25:23.369 St. Brown doesn't play, that's my key to the 00:25:23.369 --> 00:25:25.549 game right now. And I'm picking the Cowboys. 00:25:26.269 --> 00:25:28.750 I think that hurt yesterday too, or Thursday 00:25:28.750 --> 00:25:31.670 too, right? Like, St. Brown not being out there 00:25:31.670 --> 00:25:34.170 means the defense can start keying on other people. 00:25:34.529 --> 00:25:37.769 Covering JMo is tough. I get it. But I don't 00:25:37.769 --> 00:25:40.410 think he's the route runner St. Brown is at the 00:25:40.410 --> 00:25:42.769 end of the day. He doesn't cut his routes as 00:25:42.769 --> 00:25:45.589 cleanly and he's just not as dangerous. But, 00:25:45.769 --> 00:25:47.509 you know, if you can keep the ball out of his 00:25:47.509 --> 00:25:49.029 hands, once it's in his hands, I think he is 00:25:49.029 --> 00:25:51.890 dangerous. So we'll see if Tesla can step up 00:25:51.890 --> 00:25:54.349 and take that number two receiver spot. You know 00:25:54.349 --> 00:25:58.789 what Jamo is? Jamo is Elvin Harper to St. Brown's 00:25:58.789 --> 00:26:01.579 Michael Irving. That's the difference. Like, 00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:05.059 he's a good piece, but he's not the guy. He's 00:26:05.059 --> 00:26:07.000 a good number two receiver, right? I don't think 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:08.940 we should have invested what we did on him, but 00:26:08.940 --> 00:26:11.799 he's a good number two receiver, and to slot 00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:15.420 could be a good three. I just don't know that 00:26:15.420 --> 00:26:17.779 Gauss ever had the chance to get to the third 00:26:17.779 --> 00:26:21.289 read. No, he doesn't. progression. So it's like 00:26:21.289 --> 00:26:24.269 everything is just a one read deal for him right 00:26:24.269 --> 00:26:26.670 now because the line can't block anyone. So it's 00:26:26.670 --> 00:26:29.589 very limited on offense. And I do want to clarify. 00:26:29.789 --> 00:26:33.009 I'm not down on Tesla. I'm down on the capital 00:26:33.009 --> 00:26:36.529 that was given up to acquire Tesla. The capital 00:26:36.529 --> 00:26:39.009 given up in the usage of him. And the utilization 00:26:39.009 --> 00:26:42.190 are the two things that I a little bit had scratching. 00:26:42.549 --> 00:26:45.650 All right. So back to early prediction. I think 00:26:45.650 --> 00:26:47.690 the Cowboys are going to outscore the Lions. 00:26:47.809 --> 00:26:49.089 I think we're just getting them at the wrong 00:26:49.089 --> 00:26:51.309 time. Unless the Lions can make wholesale changes 00:26:51.309 --> 00:26:54.049 on defense, unless they can get a pass rush going, 00:26:54.289 --> 00:26:56.569 mix up the man to man with some zone. So I'm 00:26:56.569 --> 00:26:58.630 asking a lot of questions that I don't know we 00:26:58.630 --> 00:27:00.450 have answers to. We have a lot of questions right 00:27:00.450 --> 00:27:01.970 now. This is where we're at. I'm going to go 00:27:01.970 --> 00:27:04.690 like thirty four, thirty one Cowboys. I would 00:27:04.690 --> 00:27:08.410 hammer the O. I think I'm right in line with 00:27:08.410 --> 00:27:12.990 you. I was gonna say 35 28 Cowboys sure I don't 00:27:12.990 --> 00:27:14.930 think we're gonna be able to keep up with them 00:27:14.930 --> 00:27:17.210 This is the first time this season you and I 00:27:17.210 --> 00:27:20.049 have probably gone against the grain here and 00:27:20.049 --> 00:27:22.690 picked against our guys I know at home, but I 00:27:22.690 --> 00:27:25.650 don't have much belief in this Lions defense 00:27:25.650 --> 00:27:27.930 right now. I think the offense will keep scoring 00:27:27.930 --> 00:27:30.750 I do I think the offense There's so much talent 00:27:30.750 --> 00:27:33.250 on the offense, even with a lackluster O -line, 00:27:33.269 --> 00:27:35.630 we can still put points on the board. As long 00:27:35.630 --> 00:27:37.869 as you've got Gibbs out there and Goff out there 00:27:37.869 --> 00:27:39.869 and you've got JMo out there and you've got these 00:27:39.869 --> 00:27:41.809 guys that can make plays, you're still going 00:27:41.809 --> 00:27:45.130 to score. The question is, A, are you going to 00:27:45.130 --> 00:27:46.490 get up early? Are you going to give the other 00:27:46.490 --> 00:27:49.029 team the lead early? Because that definitely 00:27:49.029 --> 00:27:52.470 changes the way the Lions offense runs. B, can 00:27:52.470 --> 00:27:55.250 the defense stop anyone? Can they stop anyone? 00:27:55.750 --> 00:27:57.970 They couldn't stop the Packers. They barely stopped 00:27:57.970 --> 00:28:00.970 the Giants. So can they stop anybody? That's 00:28:00.970 --> 00:28:02.670 going to be a big question. Is League figured 00:28:02.670 --> 00:28:07.450 out how to attack us? We'll see. So again, thank 00:28:07.450 --> 00:28:09.549 you for listening to the Detroit Lions Litterbox. 00:28:09.650 --> 00:28:12.190 Chet and I both appreciate it. We hope every 00:28:12.190 --> 00:28:14.309 one of you had a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday 00:28:14.309 --> 00:28:17.170 with family and loved ones. We will bring you 00:28:17.170 --> 00:28:19.609 another pod to preview this and give you injury 00:28:19.609 --> 00:28:22.589 reports. It'll be a quick one sometime next week. 00:28:22.890 --> 00:28:25.650 And with that, go Honolulu Blue and Silver. Go 00:28:25.650 --> 00:28:27.109 Lions. Alliance.