Detroit lions, litter box listeners are Honolulu
blue and silver warriors lost at home. to the
Minnesota Vikings 27 -24, although the final
score was not as close as it was when those of
us watched it. The Lions really weren't good
in any one of the three phases of the football
game. And my co -host Chet and I are going to
dissect that and give you our opinions on what
the Lions need to do to right the ship and move
forward in this 2025 season. Chet, your thoughts
in watching this game? The immediate or what
became very apparent to me right off the bat
We had had a very good offensive line up until
last season. I Think it got dinged up as the
season went along. I think the guys got beat
up We know the stories about rag now We know
the stories about Decker taking a lot of punishment
because that season went on they got beat up
I think it got to the playoffs things got difficult
Then the start of this season we lose rag now
and it's like almost like a house of cards in
a lot of ways You pull that card out of the bottom
and the whole thing comes tumbling down rag now
retiring and you know Whatever, that's great.
I'm glad he got to retire. He deserves it. He
got beat up He was in physical pain. You don't
want a guy playing but They didn't really have
a plan in my eyes that was sufficient enough
To rebuild that offensive line. They didn't have
guys that were like hey if we lose this guy We'll
have this in place. It just didn't seem like
it They went out and got ratledge with their
pick in the draft They they you know, they they
move the last scout a center, which I don't think
is a good spot for him. And once again We saw
we were really bad up the middle this past week
pass and rush bill do you think? that the offensive
line is mostly to blame for the offense's issues,
or do you think John Morton can take some blame?
I think there's blame to go around, but I think
first and foremost, it's the offensive line.
I don't think the Lions were caught unaware with
Frank Ragnow's retirement. They clearly had a
plan drafting Tate Rallich in the second round,
as you alluded to. I just think that how much
Frank Ragnow meant to this team in their identity
and the grit and the MCDC mantra of we're going
to go as far as our offensive line will take
us might have been understated for the fact that
I think Frank Ragnow, in my opinion, is a first
ballot Hall of Famer and a true difference maker
at a position that is highly important, but doesn't
show up on the stat sheets. And you've been saying
it all off season. You've said it all season.
I agree that Graham Glasgow isn't probably a
long -term solution. It's putting a band -aid
on something that probably requires some stitches.
And you know, we've got young guys in Ratledge.
and mahogany at both guard spots. And this is
how young guys play, not super well. What I would
like to see the Lions do, and I think they're
going to have to pay a price for it, is try to
pick up the phone to the Tennessee Titans and
see if Kevin Zeitler would be willing to make
a, you know, hop on a plane to DTW and fill in
at one of the guard spots. You move Glasgow to
the other guard spot because mahogany is going
to be out until what we're hearing late December.
And then What I've heard, and you've heard, we've
read it, Colton Pouncey's written this many times
for the athletic, is that the long -term plan
was always for Tate Ratledge to take over the
center position. And I think the only way that
can happen is if they can fortify the line with
a savvy veteran. Why I bring up Kevin Zeitler
is because he was fantastic last year. He knows
the offense. He would have the shortest runway
to get up to speed. The problem is instead of
signing him to a... Friendly contract you're
now gonna have to give up draft capital to the
Titans. They're not gonna let him go for nothing
Yeah, that was I you know as I'm watching the
game You're watching them bring pressure up the
middle and it when they blitzed it was awful
I mean golf had no time when they just put on
a regular old pass rush We couldn't handle it
and we had guys missing blocks. We had guys missing
assignments You saw I saw a play where mahogany
went over and blocked a guy that was being blocked
by Decker He shifted over and they doubled this
guy the guy didn't need to be doubled and somebody
blew right through mahogany's hole there like
that He just left it was like he just didn't
really know where to go And I think sometimes
you see that happening where you just have these
missed assignments on the on the line And it's
it's leaving goth in peril. And Goff is not a
mobile guy. He is not a creator with his feet.
He's a creator with his arm. He does some beautiful
things with his arm, but when it comes to his
feet, it's just not there. If they are going
to go with this distilled, this watered down
O line that they now have, they have to have
a mobile quarterback. They don't have that. So
they need to get back to building that line back
up to what it was. You know, even if we had had
a mobile quarterback, I don't know how much difference
it would have. I mean, there was a point for
our listeners when Chet and I were timing the
snap until Goff had to step up or sidestep in
the pocket. And it was between 1 .5 and two seconds
every time. And so there's a few glaring concerns
right now. Is John Morton to fault? I don't think
so. I mean, I think blame can go around everywhere
on the offensive side of the ball, but how is
he supposed to get guys open on third and nine,
third and seven, third and eight, if there isn't
enough time? And I don't know. Jared Goff could
be the second coming of Carl Lewis in terms of
mobility and quickness and speed. And I don't
know that it would have made any difference because
I still, I mean, the safeties were at home. They
had a linebacker either blitzing or spying. So
even if it was just a brilliant game plan, and
I have to give a tip of the cap to Brian Flores,
the Vikings defensive coordinator, I cannot wait
for him to get another head coaching job and
just get out of our frigging division. I was
stunned at this statistic. Since Flores has been
the DC at the Vikings, the Lions have always
scored more than 30 points up until yesterday.
So. Quite frankly, the Lions have had his number
more so than the opposite, but the guy is a genius.
He deserves another head coaching opportunity.
And I say it selfishly speaking, I just don't
want to face him twice a year because his blitz
packages are effective. They work in the Lions
looked flummox yesterday. You talked about mahogany.
The other two guys that really struggled were
picking up blitzers. Gibbs got blown up. I think
eight or nine times. Monte had one play where
he did it right, but the other four he did not.
Neither one of them were good in pass block yesterday.
They had linebackers flying up the middle that
were, you know, blowing past our O line, just
finding the gaps. I mean, that's what Flores
does. That's his specialty. Like you, you alluded
to that. Like he dials these blitzes up. He's
very creative with it. And I think we may be
seeing the difference here between a Ben Johnson
and a Johnny Morton. I think flora's out coached
Johnny Morton yesterday And I think we're seeing
the big difference here Johnny Morton can put
the offense out there and get him humming He's
got so much talent to work with though It's like
you've got a guy who has some of the best most
talented offensive pieces in the land Of course,
he's going to have some success. But when you
get into these games where there's a higher minded
defensive coach or high, like what's he doing
to combat that game plan and give them a chance
yesterday? You know, I can give you passing stats
here, Bill, but you saw it with your own eyes.
We couldn't throw a ball down field. We didn't
throw a pass over. We threw three passes over
20 yards. The funny thing was two of them were
for touchdowns. So they succeeded, but only three
passes over 20 yards, three passes downfield.
And we were playing from behind a lot of this
game. So we were throwing a lot. So what frustrated
me is the Vikings up to this point came in with
a three and four record. And most recently, the
last time they played, they played the Los Angeles
Chargers. Jim Harabaugh and the Chargers loved
to establish the run and they ran the ball down
the Vikings throw. The middle of the A defensive
line was beat up for the Vikings, but I thought
if the Lions, and I made a bold prediction that
I thought the Lions were going to, you know,
really take the Vikings to the woodshed. The
problem was what I didn't think would happen
is that the Lions wouldn't be able to run the
ball. They abandoned the run way too quick and
a couple of things stuck out. Number one shot,
they couldn't. generate more than two and a half,
three yards on first down, no matter what they
tried. So they were always in these second and
long, third and long situations. But a very vanilla
approach. Very vanilla. I mean, the run game
is so vanilla. There's no change of direction
anywhere. I mean, we're not being deceptive at
all. And I think the other team knows what's
coming, and we're just relying on Montgomery
or Gibbs to be good. And they are. But it's not
going to work every time. Yeah, and they kept
running. St. Brown in motion and Jamo in motion
and I kept waiting for a jet sweep and end around
a direct snap to one of those guys some sort
of misdirection just because it seemed that the
Vikings weakness was on the edges in the perimeter
Yeah, and the Lions didn't do enough to attack
it and that opening drive where Sam Laporta was
just all world and then they stopped then he
disappeared I couldn't figure that out again.
Yeah, it went to him again in the fourth quarter
And of course, he caught the ball and it was
a first down. And I'm going, where did he go
for three quarter? What happened there? You know
what they did. They brought him into block because
they couldn't get anything. They couldn't get
any time. They couldn't get off any time to go
downfield, which is, you know, that's part of
the reason why we only had three throws down
over 20 yards. We didn't have any time. I mean,
he gets two and a half seconds. He's got he has
the least, not the least, but he's in the bottom
quarter for time to throw in the league. at 2
.68 seconds or 2 .8 seconds or something like
that. It's not good. And last year, the Lions
were second in the NFL in big plays throughout
the season. And third down, I believe they finished
either top five or top six in the NFL in terms
of conversions. Going into yesterday's game,
I believe they were 25th or 26th. And at one
point in the game, they were only completing
third downs at 25 % clip. And you saw my notes,
like, it's not that I checked out in the second
half, but it was three and out, three and out,
three and out, three and out. And the Lions aren't
built to... No NFL team is built to survive multiple
three and outs. You only get so many possessions
because of the way the NFL clock works, the way,
you know, the clock runs on first downs. You
know, unless you go out of bounds, the clock
doesn't stop until the two -minute warning, typically.
So it was... It was a frustrating game because
the Lions left so much out on the field. And,
you know, when you're ready, I'm happy to talk
about the other two phases. I'm going to make
one last point here. I want to correct a stat
I just gave a minute ago. Time to throw yesterday
on average was 2 .36 seconds. That is not enough
time to get a ball out. That's not even enough
time to get a ball out on a 10 plus yard route.
And here's what the pass dispersion was yesterday.
We had eight throws behind the line of scrimmage.
We had a grand total. grand total of 16 throws
within 10 yards from 0 to 10 yards So that's
that's 24 passes less than 10 yards. That's not
that's just you're just getting the ball out
quick That's a hot read. Basically. Those are
basically runs Yeah, they're only six passes
total between the 10 and 20 and 3 over 20 yards
So you had nine passes over 10 yards? That's
not come on. That's horrifying in an offense
like this with the talent you got You got to
find a way to get him the ball and it does come
down to And I think this is all predicated on
the fact that there's no protection He can't
run a play With that that gets that that far
down the field because he didn't have time to
get the ball out You saw I think they had a great
behind from like a like an end zone cam shot
of our offense And the pressure that golf was
under on this one play and and our receivers
Hadn't even made it into their break in their
pattern yet and golf was being sacked It was
it was like a complete collapse and I don't even
think it was a blitz I think it was just a rush
that caved on him Yeah, so we got some work on
the o -line and yeah, you're right. I I'm behind
you on this I don't have faith that they'll do
it but I think Brad Holmes is actually going
to have to go out and give up some capital deadline.
Yeah, or We're gonna try to eke into the playoffs
with like nine wins and ain't gonna happen not
in this division right now We got four teams
in this division. They're competitive right now
for again year -over -year Four teams going after
it till the end of the season. I mean we could
end up in The way things are trending and I'm
not trying to be this isn't hyperbola. This isn't
crazy We had the last place the Bears are on
the upswing The Vikings are now on the upswing
that they got McCarthy back And the Green Bay
is being Green Bay, although they lost to the
Panthers at Green Bay this weekend. I mean, any
given Sunday, right? Can happen any given Sunday.
Yeah, but what's most concerning, though, is
that that was a divisional loss. And so now the
Lions are one and two in the division. And so
that Thanksgiving Day game against Green Bay
becomes essentially a must win to have any hope
of winning the division, which maybe that's already
out of reach. I don't think so at three losses,
given that Green Bay lost, given that You know,
the Bears did win, but they didn't look good
doing it. Let me do real quick. Yeah. I'm not
going to give the scores, but I'm just going
to give the top five bottom five for the offense.
Penne Soule, again, is your top five PFF grade.
Eighty four point five. Sam Laporte. followed
him up. Jared Goff scored pretty well. He was
above average, given the fact that he had no
time to throw. And some of the moves... He still
had a quarterback rating like 116 or 108 or something
good. Some of the moves he made... Something
crazy. I would compare to a ballerina doing a
pirouette. I mean, he is... Yeah. He missed some
throws, but he made some plays too when he shouldn't
have. He is our guy. And then St. Brown and Jamo
finish out the top five. No surprise here, Chet.
Graham Glasgow at 44 .9 was your lowest. David
Montgomery had an awful day, 46. Taylor Decker,
I know he's battling a shoulder injury, and he
hurt his knee yesterday. He had a great quote
chat. The reporters gathered at his locker. I
don't know if you saw this. And they asked him
how bad the knee was. He goes, I'm taking so
much stuff from my shoulder, I couldn't tell
you which knee's even hurt. I'm guessing the
Taylor Decker that we're getting out there is
at about 50%. I think they're just, I think he's
just a body at this point and he's better than
like Skipper or whoever that we could, but barely.
I mean, I think you can put Skipper in there
and see results that are similar. That's no knock
on Decker. I love the fact that he's tough and
he's trying to get it done, but at some point
his injuries are just going to add up. And again,
I feel really, this looks like a Frank Dragnau
part two at the end of this season. I don't know
what Decker's got left in the tank. Same. And
then all the appreciation in the world for the
guy. But same. He's a warrior. Love him. Just
final two for the bottom five. Brock, right.
And then Jameer Gibbs, he was getting blown up
like he couldn't block a linebacker to save his
life and save his life. Small guy. But holy cow,
there were some plays there that I mean, they
diagrammed one that was just ridiculous. Yeah,
yeah. All right, let's move over. I want to call
one more thing out before you jump. I know you
did your bottom five. Did you see Christian Mahogany's
pass block grade for PFF? It was bad. 19 .9.
Horrifyingly awful. And that's your left guard.
Come on. I mean, he and Glasgow 33 .9, 19 .9
for pass block. No wonder we're like a sieve
for crying out loud up the middle. So going back
to trade deadline for the longest point in time,
I was all about getting a Jalen Phillips. Yeah.
Another edge. He's now on his way to Philadelphia.
So the rich get richer. And that really bothers
me. They only gave up a third round pick for
him. I know he's a rental, but you know, you
could sign him. He doesn't want to be in Miami.
Nobody wants to be in Miami at this point. So
I'm very frustrated with that. And now, you know,
to your point, we probably need another tackle
because who the heck knows what's going to happen
with Decker and his health. Not his fault. He's
just beat up. And then you have to do something
either at center or guard. And I just don't.
We talked about it in the previous pod. Offensive
linemen that are above average to good don't
get moved in the NFL. And so if this Zeitler
deal doesn't work out, Brad Holmes better be
working the phones today. So let's talk about
the defense. They allowed 27 points. I don't
have. really game balls chat. Derek Barnes played
well. These are your top five. Yeah. I don't
know how he scored this high because he seemed
to be whiffing every time I saw him. I know who
you're going to say. Double A or A squared, Alex
Ancelone. And then another guy that I didn't
see at all during the game was Tyleek Williams,
but they gave him a 69 .6. I think the team on
a whole did OK with the run up the gut when they
got out around the edges. they burned us, whether
it was a quick pass out there or a run. Our corners
weren't stepping up and tackling very well at
all. Our linebackers weren't getting out there
to make the plays. Everything up the gut from
the defensive standpoint was pretty good. Everything
out on the edges was not great at all. And that
goes for Amique Robertson and, you know, Terry
and Arnold's tackling and run defense was terrible
in this game. He did good coverage wise. but
on the run he never came up to make any plays
on the edge neither branch was kind of missing
in action too yeah your bottom five pff are meek
robertson Terry on Arnold Arthur mullet who is
part of the legion of whom and then Brian branch
the only non Secondary guy that made that was
Eileen McNeil who had a 39 Eileen McNeil had
a rough game a rough go to Penalties really bad
costly penalties. I do want to give a shout out
though to Arnold He did get his first career
interception and I do that was a gutty play.
That was pretty good I do hope that you know,
we're seeing better things up coming here In
coverage, he was good. It's just that helping
out in the run game. Didn't do it. The two final
guys on the top five were Hutch and Campbell,
who both had great games. We have to talk about
it because we did actually get a note in our
inbox on this. And the question was, was that
a legit personal foul on Jack Campbell putting
his body weight down on McCarthy on that sack?
I hate these fouls. These are... I think the
broadcasting crew, and I have to give kudos,
Kevin Berker and Tom Brady were... They shed
light on it. No, they were magnificent. Gene
Sterator answered it right away. It was the right
call. It's a bad rule. It's a bad rule. We don't
have to like the rule, but it was the right call.
And I don't know what Jack Kibble was supposed
to do. Putting your weight on somebody is part
of tackling. Yeah. You're supposed to put your
weight on them. I mean, if you just don't understand
what he was... what he could have done in that
instance, other than feign that he wasn't putting
his weight on him. Because, like, I think sometimes
when the guy's like, oh, I'm not doing anything,
you know, like, the ref will let him off. But,
like, Campbell laid him out. And he should have.
He was in a dead rush at him. And McCarthy's
a mobile guy, a slippery guy. What if he, like,
you know, what if he did lay up and McCarthy
slid out of it? Then he'd look really bad. Exactly.
So I don't know what they expect. You got to
let him execute. Yeah. And then the other...
personal foul was when Hutch tried to leg -whip
him. Yeah, I saw that. In his bad knee, which
I thought was a little bush league for a guy
that had his leg broken last year. They'd been
going after Hutch all season with that, too,
and I believe there were some complaints to the
league about it, and then he went and whipped
him, tried to whip him with his leg or, like,
stick his leg out there to interfere. I don't
know what it was. These are ticky -tack things
that football players 50 years ago would have
been like... Exactly. Exactly. They wouldn't
recognize this game. Yeah. All right. Anything
else on the defense before we move to special
teams? I got nothing. Alkanine Mohammed looked
pretty good. Bob Mohammed looked pretty good
on this one. Arthur Mullet. actually got really
bad special teams grades, too. I think we've
seen maybe the last of Arthur Mollet if we can
get a D -back back into this thing. Get somebody
off the injured. Unfortunately, DJ Reid will
not be coming back this coming week. It'll be
the following. He told some reporters he's eligible
to come off, but it's going to take him another
week. So you're going to see a little more Rokyasin,
maybe? I wouldn't mind seeing him instead of
Mollet, to be dead honest with you. Yeah, it
was a rough one all the way around. Tough game.
So a question for you is, as we move to special
teams, I find it really interesting that outside
of Khalif Raymond, Jack Campbell and Sam Laporta,
none of the other regulars contribute on special
teams whatsoever. And I feel like this is just
me and I know he'll probably get hurt the first
time it happens, but I'd be willing to take that
risk. Why wouldn't you have Jamo return kicks?
You know, I've thought about this. It seems...
odd that we have the guys back there returning
kicks that we do, but I do think it's an injury
risk situation. I mean, why wouldn't you have
Saint Brown return kicks? Why wouldn't you have,
you know, you got to get any of these guys to
return kicks. I just think, you know, you want
to keep them out of harm's way as much as possible.
And look, we've guys going down, dropping like
flies in this game again. So I'm not I'm not.
Excited to get Jamal out there returning kicks
or Saint Brown or anyone for that matter I'd
rather they just stayed out of there and Khalif
Raymond returning kicks at least kickoffs instead
of sailors or whatever might be a better idea,
but It is what it is. I don't have a big take
on it other than I'm glad that they're not out
there getting hurt So special teams was horrible.
It started with the opening The Lions, the Vikings
won the toss. They deferred. The Lions marched
down the field. La Porta scores that amazing
touchdown. They kick off. And a rookie runs it
right up the gut. There were missed tackles.
And the Vikings were on the Lions side of the
50. I think they were at the 36. I feel like
we had three kick returns that just got blown
to yesterday. Exactly. One was called back. It
would have been a touchdown. I mean, it was...
What is going on? Yeah, so I like... our special
teams historically under MCDC. Dave Phipp is
the special teams and he's highly regarded, but
it was again, the Lions were not good in all
three phases. They came out lethargic like they
did week one against the Packers. It's almost
like it's a veteran team and they're kind of
letting their foot off the gas when they have
these bye weeks. They had a field goal blocked,
which is super important. It is odd that two
years in a row now we've had rough games after
a bye week. You'd think it wouldn't be that way,
but. And Chat, the other thing with that is that
field goal was super important because that would
have taken the game to overtime. And J .J. made
a huge tactical error when he stepped out of
bounds and stopped the clock there. So the Lions
could have won this game and they didn't. And
it's frustrating. All right. Next opponent is
the Washington commanders and Landover, Maryland.
It's a godawful stadium I've been. It takes forever
to get there. It takes even longer to get out.
There's nothing charming about it. Um, they actually,
it's the only NFL stadium I've been to, Chet,
that they sell a fast pass like Disney so that
you don't have to wait 20 minutes to get a beer
and a hot dog or whatever. It's god awful. Fortunately,
new ownerships is there and they're going to
build a new stadium in a much better location.
Here's why I like the Lions chances going into
this week. The quarterback, Jaden Daniels, had
a gruesome injury yesterday, dislocated his elbow
and he is out. probably for the season. They
haven't said that yet. And then their second
best offensive player or maybe best offensive
player is Terry McLorin, scary Terry. He is not
going to be back next week. So the commanders
surprised us all last year in the divisional
round of the NFC playoffs. You know, Lyons had
the best record, you know, we're at home and
then got punched in the mouth by the commanders.
Couldn't really stop them. I think the opposite
is going to be true this week, Chet. I think
the commanders are the team limping in with far
too many injuries. They were the oldest team
in the NFL and still are the oldest team in the
NFL. And I expect this to be a get right game.
I think both running backs light it up. I expect
more from Laporta. So this is kind of my fantasy
tease. You're going to get the Marcus Mariota
show too, which is, I mean, he's the kind of
quarterback we like to go after. Great guy. But,
uh, meaning if you've watched him on the quarterback
or any of the TV shows, he just seems like a
nice person, but boy, he is not NFL starting
quarterback caliber. What else do you want to
say about the Commanders and in well previewing
other than the fact that yes, so they're saying
Jaden Daniels be out about seven weeks So we're
not gonna see him which bodes well for the Lions
You're probably not getting Terry McCorn and
when he has been in there. He's been hurt this
season. He just can't stay healthy So you're
going to get a watered down version of the commanders.
You're going to see probably not everything,
but I guarantee you we aren't going to have our
issues ironed out by then. A trade deadline is
tomorrow, Bill. Yes. And we're going to have
something for the listeners post trade deadline
later in the week here to kind of go over what
happened and what we did and didn't do. But I
just don't I don't see help coming in a big we
may get a bit player or two, but I just don't
see it, Bill. I don't. See the Brad Holmes Empire
Choosing to throw a third rounder out there for
somebody or a second rounder even or you know
Or a fourth is fourth even seems tough for him.
You're not gonna have to give that up for a Kevin
Seidler Okay, it's probably hope not that'd be
great. Yeah, I think it's like if that's the
case I'm saying why not why because eight games
have already transpired. Yeah, and yeah He's
on a one year deal. He's, you know, the wrong
side of 35. I'm just using him as an example.
I think we need a left tackle to a guy like a
Cam Robinson might be out there and available
for us. Who knows? Know I know but you need somebody
you got to get I mean, it's the damn skipper
show if you don't do Cam Robinson So all right,
see there could be some excitement, but I just
don't see it happening I think we're gonna be
rolling the same thing out there You just see
the same players and we're gonna work with this
and see if we can't get ourselves eke ourselves
into the playoffs this season That's my my take
but as far as commanders go they're beat up.
We should get healthy this week I don't think
it's gonna be a blowout Yeah, can I talk a little
Vegas on this? Yeah. The line opened at Lions
being favored by three and a half, with Jayden
Daniels getting hurt last night because they
played the Sunday night game against the Seahawks.
It's now jumped to 7 .5. Oh my goodness. The
Lions are still the favorites. The over under
right now is 50 and a half. And for those that
are into the money line, there's no money on
the Lions. It's negative 500 to make your money
back. The commanders, it's plus 360, which seems
pretty generous. Or risky, I guess I should say,
given that Marcus Mariotti is going to be your
quarterback on that. Wouldn't touch any commander's
players in fantasy. And I gave you the Lions
that I think the Lions are going to run the ball.
I think the play action's gonna reemerge. I think
John Morton's gonna call a really good game plan.
I think Kelvin Shepard's gonna dial up some blitzes.
One thing I do think the Lions need to be cognizant
of, though, and Shepard needs to as well, going
into this game next week, is they are in man
-to -man so much. If you're starting Rakiasen
and Mullet, you need to blend in some zones.
And the guy that we really need back is Curvy
Joseph. If we can get Kirby back, I think that
could go a long way to the Lions D forcing turnovers
that they can actually convert and generate some
points. I'll give you my prediction when we do
our snack. We'll have a little more. We're going
to update the line for you and everything else
later in the week. Can we call it a fun size
pod since we just had Halloween and you have
a fun size candy bar. We'll do a fun size pod
for the preview. Not quite as long and drawn
out as after a loss like yesterday, and we're
all miserable and need to get it all out of our
system. It is interesting, though, that you think
that Brad Holmes is going to take the Scott Harris
approach. I think he is. For those that aren't
aware, we do have a sister podcast, the Detroit
Tigers Litterbox, so please give that a listen.
I disagree with you. I think Brad Holmes is going
to be aggressive. I expect to see... I think
Brad and Scott dine together. I think they dine
together and talk about building from within
in the draft and everything. Do you think they
get, like, very... excited when they when they
know they don't split a greek salad in a i don't
think your dog likes us talking about this though
no he's bill's not torturing his dog right now
he just wants to play all right he wants to go
for a walk we put this so you can walk carl yes
yeah carl is not happy with you coming down on
brad home so i'll tell you that that's exactly
what it is Sorry, Carl, I like Brad too, but
I just don't think he's going to shell out the
bucks for a trade deadline piece. All right,
folks, we're going to wrap it here so Bill can
walk the dog and I don't want to hear him whine
anymore. And we'll see what happens with the
trade deadline. We'll be back with you later
in the week to give you updates on that. See
if there's any major changes. Not thinking there
will be. and we'll give you a little more in
-depth preview of the Lions Commanders game that
will take place in DC. Until then, try and lick
your wounds from this past weekend's loss and
go Lions! Go Lions!