WEBVTT 00:00:06.059 --> 00:00:11.900 This is The Litterbox, a Detroit Lions podcast 00:00:11.900 --> 00:00:15.359 with your hosts, Chad West and Bill Patterson. 00:00:19.029 --> 00:00:22.129 Welcome to the Detroit Lions litter box. Thank 00:00:22.129 --> 00:00:25.390 you all for listening. I am your co -host Billy 00:00:25.390 --> 00:00:28.350 P from the D with Chet West. We are here to talk 00:00:28.350 --> 00:00:31.510 about the Lions on Sunday Night Football at Arrowhead 00:00:31.510 --> 00:00:35.090 Stadium losing to the Kansas City Chiefs 30 to 00:00:35.090 --> 00:00:39.030 17. There were a lot of frustrating moments in 00:00:39.030 --> 00:00:42.270 this game, Chet. I'm going to turn it over to 00:00:42.270 --> 00:00:45.429 you after I say one thing and one thing alone. 00:00:45.670 --> 00:00:47.429 What is that one thing, Bill? There were only 00:00:47.429 --> 00:00:50.329 four penalties called in the game. Why was Terry 00:00:50.329 --> 00:00:53.130 on Arnold hurt for this game? It would have been 00:00:53.130 --> 00:00:54.729 the play. It would have been the game for him. 00:00:54.729 --> 00:00:56.490 It would have been the game for him. He could 00:00:56.490 --> 00:00:59.390 have mugged people and not gotten a gotten flagged. 00:00:59.469 --> 00:01:01.789 He could have committed second degree murder 00:01:01.789 --> 00:01:04.829 out there and he wouldn't have gotten a P .I. 00:01:04.870 --> 00:01:07.150 on it. It would have been amazing. So I don't 00:01:07.150 --> 00:01:11.659 know how much I want to feed. The general theory 00:01:11.659 --> 00:01:14.599 that the Kansas City Chiefs are in like, you 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:16.819 know, the NFL is like in their back pocket I 00:01:16.819 --> 00:01:18.920 don't know how much I want to feed this I hate 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:22.120 the whole the whole conspiracy theory stuff that 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:24.620 the NFL like would do something along these lines 00:01:24.620 --> 00:01:26.379 Then again, it's a product, you know, they want 00:01:26.379 --> 00:01:28.719 to keep it They want to improve their product 00:01:28.719 --> 00:01:30.799 and a two -and -three Chiefs team doesn't do 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:32.859 much for them like Patrick Mahomes and Travis 00:01:32.859 --> 00:01:35.140 Kelsey and Taylor Swift have to be on top of 00:01:35.140 --> 00:01:37.659 the world I was gonna say you bring more money 00:01:37.659 --> 00:01:41.260 in for the product You buried her third. She's 00:01:41.260 --> 00:01:43.400 the most important chief right now. I forgot 00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:47.019 about that. So, sorry for overlooking that. And 00:01:47.019 --> 00:01:50.680 Toreko made more comments. About Taylor Swift 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:53.219 last night on the broadcast Then he did about 00:01:53.219 --> 00:01:55.019 some of the players who were playing a major 00:01:55.019 --> 00:01:57.359 role in the game on the field Which I found very 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:00.159 funny at any rate couple things that I noticed 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:02.640 that sort of stuck out to me There were some 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:05.280 egregious calls. There were a couple big calls 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:08.560 that were missed I didn't feel like Travis Kelsey's 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:10.879 pass interference when they were in fourth down 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:13.000 and they hurled the ball up to him going on the 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:14.939 field I felt like that pass missed him by like 00:02:14.939 --> 00:02:18.280 15 yards and that was a ticky -tack pass interference. 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:20.689 I mean that was ridiculous and I kind of sat 00:02:20.689 --> 00:02:22.689 there and said ah major turning point in the 00:02:22.689 --> 00:02:25.270 game on that penalty right there and it wasn't 00:02:25.270 --> 00:02:27.889 like he got mugged it wasn't a Terry and Arnold 00:02:27.889 --> 00:02:30.509 level mugging it was like what would happen if 00:02:30.509 --> 00:02:32.610 like you were passing me at the bar and I was 00:02:32.610 --> 00:02:34.370 like hey grab me a beer and I tap you on the 00:02:34.370 --> 00:02:37.189 shoulder it was very it was it was just it wasn't 00:02:37.189 --> 00:02:40.250 that malicious or even worth a flag and the pass 00:02:40.250 --> 00:02:43.349 wasn't even close anyways I feel like Rock Yasun 00:02:43.349 --> 00:02:46.169 got picked on on that he got picked on on that 00:02:46.169 --> 00:02:48.960 play He got picked on because he actually got 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:52.000 picked. Yeah. And he had to cover Kelsey, who 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:54.500 he hits up many inches and many pounds to. Yeah. 00:02:54.699 --> 00:02:57.800 And then a pass that was nowhere in the stratosphere 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:01.139 to be caught. So and he it was ticky tack. So 00:03:01.139 --> 00:03:04.219 that one I disagree with. The other one I disagree 00:03:04.219 --> 00:03:06.580 with. And really where I think the game turned 00:03:06.580 --> 00:03:09.120 is the Lions got the kick. They marched down 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:11.900 the field and they used a little of Benedict 00:03:11.900 --> 00:03:16.800 Johnson's trickeration. However a rule that nobody 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:20.699 knew because it took the chat that was a three 00:03:20.699 --> 00:03:23.819 -minute review before anybody could provide any 00:03:23.819 --> 00:03:27.180 clarity from Either the broadcast booth, you 00:03:27.180 --> 00:03:29.520 know, I was on NFL calm at the same time. I was 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:32.479 on Twitter at the same time was a really bizarre 00:03:33.610 --> 00:03:35.509 Penalty flagged it's almost like they were like 00:03:35.509 --> 00:03:37.930 can we call anything to stop this from happening? 00:03:38.330 --> 00:03:40.449 Because it embarrassed the hell out of the Chiefs 00:03:40.449 --> 00:03:43.330 first and foremost Jared Goff has no place in 00:03:43.330 --> 00:03:45.469 the world where he should be catching a contested 00:03:45.469 --> 00:03:48.009 pass Which is basically what that was Bouncing 00:03:48.009 --> 00:03:50.229 off of people's backs into his arms and then 00:03:50.229 --> 00:03:51.909 running it into the end zone It was a thing of 00:03:51.909 --> 00:03:54.990 beauty and I'm telling you if we if that counted 00:03:54.990 --> 00:03:57.169 that would have been a backbreaker for the Chiefs 00:03:57.169 --> 00:03:59.090 that would have been like man the Lions are back 00:03:59.090 --> 00:04:00.969 up to their tricks and they're just embarrassing 00:04:00.969 --> 00:04:03.740 people and then We come up with this very bizarre 00:04:03.740 --> 00:04:06.800 penalty where, apparently, Goff, in order to 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:09.879 be an eligible receiver, had to take a step back, 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:13.300 set himself as though we were, what, like a halfback 00:04:13.300 --> 00:04:15.860 or something in a Wildcat formation, and then 00:04:15.860 --> 00:04:18.920 run his route? Like, what? Yes. I have never 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:21.779 heard of anything along those lines. Terry McCauley 00:04:21.779 --> 00:04:24.660 explained it last night. Yeah. He was the rules 00:04:24.660 --> 00:04:27.959 analyst, and it was one of those I was begging 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:33.319 for Gene Sterator or... Yeah. somebody else for 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:37.699 the Dean Blandino, because even Terry, as accomplished 00:04:37.699 --> 00:04:42.120 as he is, seemed a little bit suspect on everything. 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:45.759 So, can we give a shout out though? Not only 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:48.660 did Goff kind of bobble the pass and barely get 00:04:48.660 --> 00:04:51.519 in the end zone, even if it had counted, he would 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:53.819 have never gotten there. Did you see the block 00:04:53.819 --> 00:04:57.680 St. Brown set? Yes, St. Brown set a block, and 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:00.540 this was not St. Brown's best game. All right, 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:02.740 but that was a thing of beauty. That was a thing 00:05:02.740 --> 00:05:05.819 of beauty. I mean, St. Brown basically cleared 00:05:05.819 --> 00:05:09.060 the path for multiple runners to run through 00:05:09.060 --> 00:05:11.459 there. He made that play. I mean, it was crazy. 00:05:11.779 --> 00:05:14.680 So no block, no rock was evident there. But I 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:16.500 really do think that's where the game, you know, 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:20.139 it set the tone. Because the Lions had had a 00:05:20.139 --> 00:05:22.079 really I mean, I think at that point, they can 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:24.540 almost turn it into a field goal. And they had 00:05:24.540 --> 00:05:26.120 taken eight minutes of the clock off. They were 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:28.639 running the ball with authority. After that, 00:05:28.740 --> 00:05:31.040 the Lions really struggled to move the ball. 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:35.240 They did. The rest of this is on them. I mean, 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:38.000 you got you got Saint Brown dropping balls for 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:40.139 first downs that he never drops. That thing was 00:05:40.139 --> 00:05:42.220 in the breadbasket. You've got and these are 00:05:42.220 --> 00:05:44.620 key. You know, any game like this, any fourth 00:05:44.620 --> 00:05:46.420 down conversion is going to be a key conversion. 00:05:46.660 --> 00:05:50.220 The run game seemed like it was fairly effective. 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:52.720 But what happens with this Lions team is when 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:55.399 they get down by about a touchdown or more, by 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:58.279 about 10 points or more, they have to switch 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:00.500 into this mode that they are just not comfortable 00:06:00.500 --> 00:06:03.540 running. They don't play from behind very well, 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:05.839 is what I think I'm trying to say. They don't 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:08.300 have like that. They need that play action. They 00:06:08.300 --> 00:06:11.279 need that run game. So the opening drive was 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:13.740 key number one that we discussed. Key number 00:06:13.740 --> 00:06:18.360 two was Aman Ra, not first down this time, had 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:21.379 a first down catch that he couldn't bring in. 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:23.540 Sure. I'm not going to say it was the best ball, 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:26.399 but it's usually a catch he makes. Yeah. And 00:06:26.399 --> 00:06:29.000 the Lions turned it over on downs at that point 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:31.699 and the Chiefs went ahead. That's when the game 00:06:31.699 --> 00:06:34.079 started getting. Not out of reach, but then the 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:36.019 Chiefs received the second half. Sure, sure. 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:38.959 You know, you're correct. The Lions really abandoned 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:41.519 the run game. There was something else amiss, 00:06:41.660 --> 00:06:44.480 though, and I can't decide if this is on Johnny 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:48.240 Morton of the OC or if something else was going 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:51.040 on. It seemed like the Lions were getting decent 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:54.360 protection. But Dan Skipper was the starting 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:57.920 left tackle this game. Who is your third string 00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:01.160 left tackle? Yeah, yeah. I have to imagine when 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:04.129 that happened. Johnny Moe had to throw out a 00:07:04.129 --> 00:07:07.149 lot of what he wanted to do and really shorten 00:07:07.149 --> 00:07:10.589 that up because possible It seemed like everything 00:07:10.589 --> 00:07:14.490 was a check down or let the hot route and they 00:07:14.490 --> 00:07:17.689 couldn't really get much of Anything set up outside 00:07:17.689 --> 00:07:21.389 of the Laporta touchdown that was deep ish down 00:07:21.389 --> 00:07:24.209 the field I'd buy that I mean I I will say this 00:07:24.209 --> 00:07:28.170 I don't think our Receivers as a whole had a 00:07:28.170 --> 00:07:31.050 very good game outside of J Moe. This was kind 00:07:31.050 --> 00:07:33.980 of a J Moe game And he was running a lot of the 00:07:33.980 --> 00:07:36.639 same routes you'd normally see maybe Amon Ra 00:07:36.639 --> 00:07:38.980 running, like the short crossing routes. They 00:07:38.980 --> 00:07:40.899 were getting him into space a little more with 00:07:40.899 --> 00:07:43.459 the ball, which I like. I mean, it doesn't have 00:07:43.459 --> 00:07:46.139 to always be a deep ball to Jamo or a ball down 00:07:46.139 --> 00:07:48.480 the sideline. Like running him across the field 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:50.759 is equally as effective. He's very fast. And 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:52.819 so I would like to see more of that. But the 00:07:52.819 --> 00:07:54.839 rest of the receivers seem to take a night off 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:56.759 to some degree or another. Did you feel that 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:59.319 way? You know, I can't say anything bad about 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:02.439 St. Brown. I know I'm going to leave him. immune 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:05.519 from this. Sure. It was a bad game by his standards, 00:08:05.620 --> 00:08:08.319 but he still had five catches. Yeah. I mean, 00:08:09.100 --> 00:08:11.399 he had that one drop, but he moved the ball and 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:13.579 did what he needed to do. He blocked like crazy. 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:16.939 I just think the offense somehow got out of rhythm 00:08:16.939 --> 00:08:20.199 and never really regained it. And there's multiple 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:22.500 points. You know, we mentioned the two big ones. 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:25.319 The Chiefs were able to run the ball. It's a 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:27.220 good way of putting it rhythm. I don't feel like 00:08:27.220 --> 00:08:29.319 they had a rhythm. They did not have a rhythm. 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:32.960 And the hysterical part is one of our previews 00:08:32.960 --> 00:08:35.360 was that the Chief's leading rusher was Patrick 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:38.799 Mahomes. I know. Who did have a pretty excellent 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:41.279 rushing touchdown. Yeah. But then they got Pacheco 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:44.860 going and the running game started flowing. They 00:08:44.860 --> 00:08:47.960 did a couple, I'm going to call them cute things 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:50.419 with Worthy and some others, you know, to kind 00:08:50.419 --> 00:08:53.059 of get them in space and use the whole field. 00:08:53.059 --> 00:08:55.179 They have some talent on that team. They have 00:08:55.179 --> 00:08:57.100 an incredible batch of skilled players on that 00:08:57.100 --> 00:08:59.350 team still. If we can circle back, neither of 00:08:59.350 --> 00:09:02.129 us picked the Lions to win this game. And a two 00:09:02.129 --> 00:09:05.850 and four Chiefs team just, they're still really 00:09:05.850 --> 00:09:07.769 good. There's still a ton of talent to the point 00:09:07.769 --> 00:09:10.330 you just made. I don't really want to get into 00:09:10.330 --> 00:09:12.850 conspiracies, but it is a little curious that 00:09:12.850 --> 00:09:15.090 there are no penalties called on them. That penalty 00:09:15.090 --> 00:09:18.730 called on Goff was pure puzzlement, if to say 00:09:18.730 --> 00:09:22.450 the least. And then the Rakyasin, I feel like 00:09:22.450 --> 00:09:24.610 he got picked on. Got picked on. It could have 00:09:24.610 --> 00:09:27.230 also been that the officiating crew forgot that 00:09:27.230 --> 00:09:30.870 T .A. was actually not playing. So one other 00:09:30.870 --> 00:09:32.710 thing I would call out to. I mean, these are 00:09:32.710 --> 00:09:35.590 all offensive things here. Our pass rush seemed 00:09:35.590 --> 00:09:38.049 to take a little vacation again. Yes. What were 00:09:38.049 --> 00:09:40.149 your thoughts? Did you I just didn't hear the 00:09:40.149 --> 00:09:42.809 names getting called like they typically do in 00:09:42.809 --> 00:09:44.830 the last. Now, granted, we've gone up against 00:09:44.830 --> 00:09:47.200 some weak opponents for a few weeks here. OK, 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:49.899 up against a broken bangles team, gone up against 00:09:49.899 --> 00:09:52.240 the Browns team is, you know, offensive line 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:56.100 is suspect to say the least. A Bears team that's 00:09:56.100 --> 00:09:59.039 the Bears. I like in the Ravens aren't good and 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:01.139 the Ravens just aren't good now. Like they've 00:10:01.139 --> 00:10:03.879 just gone south. Yeah, I mean, they haven't been 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:06.379 good for a month and we'll see, you know. But 00:10:06.379 --> 00:10:08.720 so, yeah, I think there's something to say for 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:11.440 the fact that our defense just didn't. The pass 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:13.759 rush just wasn't there. There wasn't any penetration. 00:10:14.139 --> 00:10:16.379 I rarely heard Reader's name getting called. 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:18.899 I rarely heard. I rarely heard Hutch's name getting 00:10:18.899 --> 00:10:20.460 called. It did a couple of times. He had a couple 00:10:20.460 --> 00:10:24.120 of nice, you know, pressures. But I think Al 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:26.039 -Qadim Mohammed toward the end of the game got 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:28.779 a sack in there maybe. But you're talking about 00:10:28.779 --> 00:10:32.460 some speckled efforts that and and then the defensive 00:10:32.460 --> 00:10:34.940 backfield is just maligned right now. There's 00:10:34.940 --> 00:10:37.820 so many issues. So going back to your question. 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:41.179 Yeah. This defense goes as Hutch goes, and Hutch 00:10:41.179 --> 00:10:43.779 did not have a great game. And it's interesting 00:10:43.779 --> 00:10:47.440 because both tackles were, one was a starter, 00:10:47.559 --> 00:10:49.720 but the other was almost a third string tackle 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:53.960 for the Chiefs. And he really struggled. And 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:56.899 if you recall the last time the Lions played 00:10:56.899 --> 00:11:00.879 at Arrowhead, the starting tackles would... I 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:02.559 mean, it was almost like they were out of their 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:04.659 stance and they were almost in the backfield. 00:11:04.740 --> 00:11:06.240 It didn't even seem like they were on the line 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:08.779 of scrimmage. And they took a similar approach 00:11:08.779 --> 00:11:11.460 where it seems like if you can give yourself 00:11:11.460 --> 00:11:14.850 another step against Hutch, you can. mitigate 00:11:14.850 --> 00:11:17.190 some of the damage. And that's some of the complaint 00:11:17.190 --> 00:11:19.009 from some of the calls in this game was there 00:11:19.009 --> 00:11:21.429 were a lot of false starts that didn't get called 00:11:21.429 --> 00:11:24.470 a lot of lining up, you know, off the line to 00:11:24.470 --> 00:11:27.009 get an edge that didn't get called. And some 00:11:27.009 --> 00:11:29.289 of those offensive line for the Chiefs have suffered 00:11:29.289 --> 00:11:32.190 many calls recently. I mean, one of the great, 00:11:32.190 --> 00:11:34.850 you know, if you go on the Chiefs Reddit thread 00:11:34.850 --> 00:11:37.610 right now, I think I saw a post about their left 00:11:37.610 --> 00:11:39.990 tackle was, you know, no penalties tonight. Oh, 00:11:40.009 --> 00:11:42.149 my gosh. Look at that. He's like, you know, it's 00:11:42.149 --> 00:11:44.570 like, yeah, that doesn't that. Sort of make you 00:11:44.570 --> 00:11:46.769 think that there's something suspicious up then 00:11:46.769 --> 00:11:49.269 at the least the refs just weren't watching You 00:11:49.269 --> 00:11:51.909 know, they just did decided to call it real loose 00:11:51.909 --> 00:11:54.590 in this game along the line I don't know but 00:11:54.590 --> 00:11:57.850 you're right Like they do seem to get that extra 00:11:57.850 --> 00:12:00.649 step or that extra jump and if the officials 00:12:00.649 --> 00:12:03.070 aren't calling it That's a huge advantage huge 00:12:03.070 --> 00:12:07.889 advantage So one last thing Derek Barnes is really 00:12:07.889 --> 00:12:11.309 disappointing me this year. And here's why he 00:12:11.309 --> 00:12:14.730 was supposed to be that third linebacker that 00:12:14.730 --> 00:12:19.610 could be helpful off the edge. And this is the 00:12:19.610 --> 00:12:22.330 third week in a row that if you heard his name, 00:12:22.509 --> 00:12:26.009 you had to be listening very carefully. He is 00:12:26.009 --> 00:12:30.169 one that I know that Spielman and Brad Holmes 00:12:30.169 --> 00:12:33.570 and Dan Campbell, the brain trust, absolutely 00:12:33.570 --> 00:12:36.950 believe in the guy. But to this point, I've wanted 00:12:36.950 --> 00:12:38.889 to believe in him, too. I love that they re -signed 00:12:38.889 --> 00:12:40.429 their own draft picks. I love that, you know, 00:12:40.710 --> 00:12:43.029 he's your, I think, a fifth -rounder that they've 00:12:43.029 --> 00:12:46.669 invested in and believe in. Chet, he needs to 00:12:46.669 --> 00:12:49.350 step up his game. Do you feel like he has, like, 00:12:49.429 --> 00:12:52.450 an all -star game or he's just gone and just 00:12:52.450 --> 00:12:55.009 completely null and void from the game plan? 00:12:55.149 --> 00:12:57.450 It's like one or the other with him. He is Kyle 00:12:57.450 --> 00:13:01.539 Van Noy 2 .0. Think they don't know what to do 00:13:01.539 --> 00:13:04.480 with him Well, I you know and Campbell can have 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:06.580 those games too and granted Campbell is a little 00:13:06.580 --> 00:13:09.159 more consistent with his performance But Campbell 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:10.919 can have games like I didn't see much of Jack 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:12.840 Campbell last night And when I did see him he 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:15.500 was getting blown by you know either Kelsey or 00:13:15.500 --> 00:13:17.500 somebody was absolutely leaving him in the dust 00:13:17.500 --> 00:13:21.259 So I I don't know. Maybe we just don't have a 00:13:21.259 --> 00:13:24.120 linebacking core. That's that great It was I 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:26.799 have to give a squared credit Alex and Saloni 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:30.100 played it Well, he was all over the place. He 00:13:30.100 --> 00:13:32.860 had a game. However, he was also just cleaning 00:13:32.860 --> 00:13:35.240 up everybody else's mess Yes, overall the Lions 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:37.419 D didn't play well They didn't rest the pet Russia 00:13:37.419 --> 00:13:40.080 passer and they didn't tackle there were so many 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:42.759 broken tackles yet We can't even go through play 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:44.779 -by -play and then I know you've been a little 00:13:44.779 --> 00:13:48.019 bit hard on him this year And I've tried to soften 00:13:48.019 --> 00:13:52.639 it our rookie defensive tackle Was nowhere to 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:55.559 be found. Yeah, I think I think I leak is not 00:13:55.789 --> 00:13:59.389 He has been missing in action the D tackles on 00:13:59.389 --> 00:14:01.309 this team just seemed to be missing in action 00:14:01.309 --> 00:14:04.289 We get no pass rush from up the gut and I don't 00:14:04.289 --> 00:14:06.929 see him doing a ton of run stuffing not last 00:14:06.929 --> 00:14:10.970 night. No And then let's talk about what happened 00:14:10.970 --> 00:14:14.470 post game. So the lines are out of it It ends 00:14:14.470 --> 00:14:18.889 and then Brian branch whether Juju Smith Schuster 00:14:18.889 --> 00:14:22.549 blocked him illegally or did anything in the 00:14:22.549 --> 00:14:25.750 game that Doesn't matter because what he did 00:14:25.750 --> 00:14:29.309 was Bush League punching Juju Smith Schuster 00:14:29.309 --> 00:14:32.649 down down also my homes is I don't want to he's 00:14:32.649 --> 00:14:35.929 like a manning He's like NFL royalty. Yeah, if 00:14:35.929 --> 00:14:37.789 the guy wants to shake your hand shake his hand 00:14:37.789 --> 00:14:41.409 Okay, like you're not gonna win this PR battle 00:14:41.409 --> 00:14:44.360 sure Patrick Mahomes And so, then he takes a 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:46.440 bad situation after ignoring Patrick Moe's. Makes 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:49.720 it worse. Makes it worse. And then, ironically, 00:14:50.139 --> 00:14:51.919 Dan Campbell, who had nothing to do with any 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:54.220 of this, apologizes to Andy Reid, the chiefs, 00:14:54.259 --> 00:14:57.019 to Juju Smith's sister, to Patrick Moe's, which 00:14:57.019 --> 00:14:59.259 is a class act thing to do, you know, so that 00:14:59.259 --> 00:15:02.179 the lions... Sure. That the branches stink doesn't 00:15:02.179 --> 00:15:06.580 carry over to the lions. 100%. My question for 00:15:06.580 --> 00:15:09.440 you on this, though, is I'm thankful I did not 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:12.409 buy my Brian Branch jersey because... Don't know 00:15:12.409 --> 00:15:14.990 that this is he's as talented as anybody out 00:15:14.990 --> 00:15:17.250 there check. I don't he makes a lot of hot -headed 00:15:17.250 --> 00:15:19.929 mistakes This is not gonna fly. He's the shit. 00:15:20.029 --> 00:15:23.149 Yeah of the defense is what he makes a lot of 00:15:23.149 --> 00:15:25.529 hot -headed mistakes I mean if it's not Terry 00:15:25.529 --> 00:15:28.529 and Arnold doing you know things that are but 00:15:28.529 --> 00:15:31.870 that's on the field Yeah, then it's Brian branch 00:15:31.870 --> 00:15:34.269 I mean how many he's gotten booted from a game 00:15:34.269 --> 00:15:36.450 or two over the past couple seasons for doing 00:15:36.450 --> 00:15:39.049 some stuff He just has had a bad kind of run 00:15:39.049 --> 00:15:42.289 with his discipline maybe Yes. And they were 00:15:42.289 --> 00:15:44.929 talking, you know, Mahomes last night was kind 00:15:44.929 --> 00:15:47.389 of talking a little trash in the end zone to 00:15:47.389 --> 00:15:50.429 him. I'm sure Schuster had his mouth running 00:15:50.429 --> 00:15:52.769 all game long, but you got to be above it. You 00:15:52.769 --> 00:15:54.870 got to get past it. You got your butt whipped 00:15:54.870 --> 00:15:57.350 and you got to turn around and just shake hands 00:15:57.350 --> 00:16:00.210 with the guys and call it what it was. You lost 00:16:00.210 --> 00:16:03.210 and take your L on it and walk off. But yeah, 00:16:03.350 --> 00:16:06.169 Branch, there's some question marks there. There's 00:16:06.169 --> 00:16:08.070 a few question marks there and I don't want to, 00:16:08.110 --> 00:16:11.480 you know, it happened. Yeah, well, but I do think 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:14.740 this is one with Hutch needing to be extended, 00:16:14.779 --> 00:16:17.740 which, you know, we agree needs to happen. I 00:16:17.740 --> 00:16:20.740 think Branch moved himself down a few pegs that 00:16:20.740 --> 00:16:24.000 Campbell might get an extension, that Laporta 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:27.399 might get an extension, that other guys in this 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:30.940 organization might have jumped ahead of him because 00:16:30.940 --> 00:16:33.899 the Lions took their time with Jamo because of 00:16:33.899 --> 00:16:36.600 his off field or dumb things, you know, the gambling. 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:38.620 I still think that was a bad signing, but whatever. 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:42.460 Yeah, and I agree with you on that. So should 00:16:42.460 --> 00:16:44.200 we talk about the performance of some of these 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:47.100 guys here? Please do dive into the numbers. And 00:16:47.100 --> 00:16:49.759 then I've got a pretty good preview of the next 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:52.419 game as well. Well, let's do a quick overview 00:16:52.419 --> 00:16:54.860 of the PFF grades for the offense. Sam Laporta 00:16:54.860 --> 00:16:57.879 capped everything off with a 90 .4. He had the 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:00.899 best offensive game PFF grade wise of the whole 00:17:00.899 --> 00:17:03.399 no surprise. And he gets my offensive. He had 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:07.400 some awesome, awesome routes, catches, blocks. 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:10.779 He also had that touchdown catch that was unbelievable. 00:17:11.220 --> 00:17:14.079 I kind of just, you know, right in Kelsey's house 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:16.079 nonetheless, which was kind of cool. I was like, 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:17.519 yeah, you're not the only tight end of the field. 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:19.559 He doesn't have Taylor Swift to go along with 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:22.220 it at this point, but. You know, have you seen 00:17:22.220 --> 00:17:25.160 his? No, I have not. I was just about to say, 00:17:25.180 --> 00:17:26.839 I don't know who he's got. Maybe he's got something 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:29.500 better. Who knows? She features heavily. She's 00:17:29.500 --> 00:17:32.319 good buddies with Christina Goff, Jared's wife. 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:35.440 OK. And I would say that Jack's done OK for himself. 00:17:35.839 --> 00:17:38.779 OK, great. Sam has done OK for himself. Good 00:17:38.779 --> 00:17:42.539 job, Sam. OK, so second on the list, Christian 00:17:42.539 --> 00:17:46.039 Mahogany got an 85 .1. Now, here's the interesting 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:48.000 thing about Mahogany. And I'm seeing this all 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:52.410 season. His pass block grade. .1 bill his pass 00:17:52.410 --> 00:17:57.430 block grade was a 25 .9 his run block was a 92 00:17:57.430 --> 00:18:00.650 how that's amazing to me. And that might have 00:18:00.650 --> 00:18:02.549 been the skipper effect over there on the left 00:18:02.549 --> 00:18:04.450 side, maybe pulling them out of position, whatever. 00:18:04.690 --> 00:18:07.029 I mean, a lot of these PFF grades aren't just 00:18:07.029 --> 00:18:08.890 the success of the action. It's like, are you 00:18:08.890 --> 00:18:10.529 in the right place at the right time? Are you 00:18:10.529 --> 00:18:12.750 in your position, playing your position, doing 00:18:12.750 --> 00:18:14.869 what you're expected to do? If you miss an assignment, 00:18:14.910 --> 00:18:16.190 something like that, you're going to get graded 00:18:16.190 --> 00:18:19.009 down. I had him on our call sheet or shot sheet 00:18:19.009 --> 00:18:21.849 is having played really well. I didn't think 00:18:21.849 --> 00:18:24.009 the pass grade would be that low. Thought he 00:18:24.009 --> 00:18:26.750 did fine. Yeah. However, playing next skipper 00:18:26.750 --> 00:18:28.890 did not look good out there. I thought he looked 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:31.279 Fine. I didn't think he looked great. I thought 00:18:31.279 --> 00:18:33.500 he looked better than Manu. Let's put it that 00:18:33.500 --> 00:18:35.700 way. Alright, we can debate that another time. 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:38.720 Yeah, next. Next on the list, number three was 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:40.980 Jameson Williams. Jamo had his game. He had an 00:18:40.980 --> 00:18:43.680 84 overall. Good grades across the board. So 00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:46.559 give Jamo his props. Jared Goff came in fourth 00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:50.039 with an 80 .6. Solid game. So that tells you, 00:18:50.180 --> 00:18:52.059 like, there must have been a gap somewhere else 00:18:52.059 --> 00:18:54.579 in this deal. It wasn't quarterback play necessarily. 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:58.059 Fifth was Panay Sewell with a 78 .3. So those 00:18:58.059 --> 00:19:03.259 are your top top scorers as far as PFF goes. 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:05.980 For Sewell, that's like failing a class. Yeah, 00:19:05.980 --> 00:19:08.319 I know, I know. So he's gonna come out, so what 00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:10.559 this tells me is the offensive line has nowhere 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:12.990 to go but up. Yeah off has nowhere to go but 00:19:12.990 --> 00:19:15.470 up Johnny Moe has nowhere to go but up I'll tell 00:19:15.470 --> 00:19:18.250 you the guys that were surprising here Tesla 00:19:18.250 --> 00:19:20.569 Tesla had the worst grade of the regulars out 00:19:20.569 --> 00:19:23.670 of 46. He played 25 total snaps He looked like 00:19:23.670 --> 00:19:26.009 a regular's but it was still only half the snaps. 00:19:26.029 --> 00:19:29.690 He was not he has gone down He just doesn't seem 00:19:29.690 --> 00:19:32.470 to be involved and I think he missed a block 00:19:32.470 --> 00:19:35.609 or something I did around last night and it came 00:19:35.609 --> 00:19:37.349 over who was one of the receivers to tune them 00:19:37.349 --> 00:19:39.710 out I think it might have been Amon Ra, but Brock 00:19:39.710 --> 00:19:43.410 Wright was next With a 48 .3. He's just a guy. 00:19:43.630 --> 00:19:48.269 Yep, just a guy. Amon Ra St. Brown had 48 snaps. 00:19:48.410 --> 00:19:51.470 He had a 56 .1 overall. He did not score above 00:19:51.470 --> 00:19:53.910 60 in any metric yesterday. So this was just 00:19:53.910 --> 00:19:56.470 a bad game. That's what a bad game for Amon Ra 00:19:56.470 --> 00:19:59.150 looks like last night. And Sewell. I think that's 00:19:59.150 --> 00:20:00.990 what a bad game for Amon Ra looks like. Your 00:20:00.990 --> 00:20:03.450 two best offensive players, not named Jared Goff, 00:20:03.529 --> 00:20:06.369 both had subpar games for themselves. And then 00:20:06.369 --> 00:20:08.640 your next guy to call out was Dan Skipper. at 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:11.819 left tackle at a 56 .7 overall. He had a better 00:20:11.819 --> 00:20:14.579 pass block grade than Christian Mahogany, but 00:20:14.579 --> 00:20:16.619 he had a similar run block grade in the 50s. 00:20:16.619 --> 00:20:18.819 So he didn't quite live up to it. But you know 00:20:18.819 --> 00:20:20.940 what? He's our third string left tackle. I don't 00:20:20.940 --> 00:20:23.460 know what we would expect. No, nothing more. 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:26.000 I mean, next man up is a thing, but like, geez, 00:20:26.059 --> 00:20:28.000 how far down the depth chart can you go to get 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:29.759 there? You can't. You're not supposed to start. 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:31.759 Which scares me because we have nothing at left 00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:35.339 tackle past Taylor Decker. I mean, too soon on 00:20:35.339 --> 00:20:39.599 Manu and Dan Thayer. Yeah. Can I comment really 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:42.880 quick? Yes. One of the things that I found really 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:44.980 curious in this game, and I don't want to go 00:20:44.980 --> 00:20:48.500 into the grades on it, but Gibbs and Montgomery 00:20:48.500 --> 00:20:51.440 both didn't have the below average games for 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:54.660 them. And curiously enough, Montgomery wasn't 00:20:54.660 --> 00:20:57.259 involved very often. I want to say that he only 00:20:57.259 --> 00:21:00.619 had five or six carries or touches. He only had 00:21:00.619 --> 00:21:04.180 17 total snaps all night. And that is something 00:21:04.180 --> 00:21:08.130 that I think has to change because That opening 00:21:08.130 --> 00:21:11.430 drive the Lions were instilling their will and 00:21:11.430 --> 00:21:14.890 running the ball very effectively. And it seemed 00:21:14.890 --> 00:21:18.710 that they gave up on that far too early. And 00:21:18.710 --> 00:21:21.829 that bothers me. David Montgomery only had four 00:21:21.829 --> 00:21:25.480 run plays. that he was in on. Gibbs had 17. So 00:21:25.480 --> 00:21:27.819 you're looking at a very large imbalance there 00:21:27.819 --> 00:21:29.559 and I've seen this all season. I'm trying to 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:32.500 tell, trying to discern. Are they trying to save 00:21:32.500 --> 00:21:35.299 Montgomery? Is he still aching, aching? Are they 00:21:35.299 --> 00:21:36.740 kind of trying to keep him in good shape? Or 00:21:36.740 --> 00:21:38.380 are they kind of trying to hand the reins to 00:21:38.380 --> 00:21:41.759 Gibbs on more of a full -time role? I just like 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:44.140 Monty and the way he runs up the gut. I don't 00:21:44.140 --> 00:21:46.940 like watching Gibbs run up the gut as much. I 00:21:46.940 --> 00:21:48.599 just don't think he finds the holes as easily 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:50.259 and he gets stuffed up behind the line a little 00:21:50.259 --> 00:21:52.420 more. I like Gibbs out around the edges. So, 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:54.299 you know, it depends on the defense you're going 00:21:54.299 --> 00:21:56.160 against. Do you have a defense that goes and 00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:57.940 protects out around the edges? Then it becomes 00:21:57.940 --> 00:22:01.420 a Monty game up the gut. But look, they use them 00:22:01.420 --> 00:22:02.480 how they're using them. But that gives you a 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:06.000 good idea of what you thought. Dead on like they 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:08.140 didn't use Montgomery much at all last night 00:22:08.140 --> 00:22:09.759 and maybe they don't because they weren't in 00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:11.839 the lead ever Maybe he's the back that gets the 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:13.220 call when they're in the lead and they need to 00:22:13.220 --> 00:22:15.779 clock and run that could be the case Let's go 00:22:15.779 --> 00:22:18.579 to the defensive side for grades and then we'll 00:22:18.579 --> 00:22:21.079 preview next week's Monday night football tilt 00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:24.480 against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Thomas Harper, 00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:26.940 free safety, had 10 total snaps last night. He's 00:22:26.940 --> 00:22:28.680 been on the team for like a week, I think, or 00:22:28.680 --> 00:22:31.619 something like that. Had an 87 .5. He graded 00:22:31.619 --> 00:22:33.900 out with an 80 cover grade. Thomas in his 10 00:22:33.900 --> 00:22:35.759 snaps. I wanted to call it out because he had 00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:38.880 a big play. He broke up a pass there early on. 00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:42.160 Roy Lopez had a 77 .1. We said we didn't hear 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:44.359 anything from defensive tackles. Apparently he 00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:46.380 had a good game, but he only played 23 snaps. 00:22:46.539 --> 00:22:48.859 Those were your top two on defense. Everybody 00:22:48.859 --> 00:22:52.359 else was below a 70. Amique Robertson was a 69 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:57.680 .3. He's the 62 snaps big corner started 69 .3. 00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:01.380 You know, I that's not great for your highest 00:23:01.380 --> 00:23:04.619 Regular no, it's not everybody else is below 00:23:04.619 --> 00:23:07.519 that. It's al -qadim mohammed with a 65 .4 and 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:12.660 zaloni with a 65 .2 and Hutch with a 64 .8 And 00:23:12.660 --> 00:23:15.059 Hutch's run defense and tackle grades were terrible. 00:23:15.259 --> 00:23:18.960 They're never good, actually. His pass rush was 00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:21.539 an 87 .2. He had the highest pass rush grade 00:23:21.539 --> 00:23:23.859 of the crew. And if we go down to the bottom 00:23:23.859 --> 00:23:26.579 of this thing, you're looking at guys like Kirby 00:23:26.579 --> 00:23:32.079 Joseph had a 32 .6 overall. He was hurt and probably 00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:34.480 hurt played. He was hurt going into it and then 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:38.039 he got hurt again. Went to the tent. Somehow 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:41.339 came out, psyched himself up, and played worse 00:23:41.339 --> 00:23:43.160 after he came out. I know, it was really odd. 00:23:43.460 --> 00:23:45.740 And then that's when Harper came in and actually 00:23:45.740 --> 00:23:49.460 played well -ish for ten plays or whatever, so. 00:23:49.660 --> 00:23:52.369 At Campbell? And Tyleek Williams are your next 00:23:52.369 --> 00:23:54.690 two. Jack Campbell had a 49 overall and Tyleek 00:23:54.690 --> 00:23:57.789 had a 54 .1. So lending a little to our thoughts 00:23:57.789 --> 00:24:01.109 on where were those guys or they just kind of 00:24:01.109 --> 00:24:03.150 weren't out there. Ryan Branch was in the middle. 00:24:03.470 --> 00:24:06.130 Reader in the middle. Derek Barnes had a 61 .2. 00:24:06.130 --> 00:24:08.329 He was on the top half. It was really Campbell 00:24:08.329 --> 00:24:10.829 that got dinged on his grades. Apparently his 00:24:10.829 --> 00:24:13.150 coverage scores were terrible and his tackling 00:24:13.150 --> 00:24:15.329 score was terrible, which is you don't want to 00:24:15.329 --> 00:24:17.880 see that from your middle linebacker. and cap 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:20.480 in the defense. So some stuff to chew on there. 00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:24.920 We can guarantee that MCDC is going to have them 00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:27.940 hitting in practice despite the injuries and 00:24:27.940 --> 00:24:31.319 tackling quite a bit. Next opponent up is the 00:24:31.319 --> 00:24:33.460 Tampa Bay Buccaneers who had an impressive win 00:24:33.460 --> 00:24:35.440 over the San Francisco Four winners. They are 00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:38.339 now five and one on top of the Entire national 00:24:38.339 --> 00:24:40.960 football conference Lions Monday night. We always 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:42.960 get excited about this The Lions are four and 00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:46.380 a half point dogs. The total on this is 52 and 00:24:46.380 --> 00:24:50.160 a half people or Vegas is expecting a lot of 00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:53.619 scoring in terms of money line Tampa Bay's plus 00:24:53.619 --> 00:24:57.319 200 Detroit's gonna be minus 240 Christine Lee 00:24:57.319 --> 00:25:02.200 enough chat The Buccaneers might be as beat up 00:25:02.329 --> 00:25:05.670 on offense. The Lions on defense. And I'm just 00:25:05.670 --> 00:25:07.890 going to read you through this. Clearly, the 00:25:07.890 --> 00:25:10.109 Buccaneer story of the year so far has been Baker 00:25:10.109 --> 00:25:12.750 Mayfield and the fact that he is. Yeah, he scares 00:25:12.750 --> 00:25:16.890 me. Having an MVP type season. Bucky Irving is 00:25:16.890 --> 00:25:20.589 their stud tailback. He is out. Mike Evans is 00:25:20.589 --> 00:25:24.009 out. Chris Goodwin Jr., who's their two receiver 00:25:24.009 --> 00:25:27.750 is out. And then their emerging rookie, Amike. 00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:31.900 Abuqa is now he had an injured hamstring yesterday 00:25:31.900 --> 00:25:34.900 and is going to have an MRI tomorrow. So he is 00:25:34.900 --> 00:25:38.880 to be determined, which leads us with Rashad 00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:42.799 White is the backup tailback. And then your receiver 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.420 room is going to look like this. Sterling Shepherd, 00:25:45.660 --> 00:25:49.160 Tez Johnson and Ryan Miller may be a Cameron 00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:52.599 Johnson sighting if the top three can't go. That's 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:55.940 interesting. So the other interesting note on 00:25:55.940 --> 00:26:00.119 this is that The Lions backup quarterback extraordinaire 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:02.720 from the previous two seasons, Teddy Bridgewater, 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.460 is Baker's backup. So, you know he can run the 00:26:06.460 --> 00:26:10.259 scout team for the Buccaneers this week. The 00:26:10.259 --> 00:26:12.880 other injury is Luke Haggard. The right guard 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:16.019 is questionable. And then the right cornerback, 00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:19.799 Zion McCollum, is out. There's also the left 00:26:19.799 --> 00:26:23.180 backup cornerback or nickel. Benjamin Morrison's 00:26:23.180 --> 00:26:26.390 out. So there's a lot of injuries, so I don't 00:26:26.390 --> 00:26:28.650 know that the Lions can fall on that excuse this 00:26:28.650 --> 00:26:31.170 week, Chad. It's just an imbalance that it's 00:26:31.170 --> 00:26:33.970 offensive injuries versus that of defense. Can 00:26:33.970 --> 00:26:36.109 I give you one more thing to look forward to 00:26:36.109 --> 00:26:38.650 because of those injuries? Yeah, please. Guess 00:26:38.650 --> 00:26:41.109 who is going to be in at cornerback more than 00:26:41.109 --> 00:26:43.710 likely this coming weekend or possibly? A gentleman 00:26:43.710 --> 00:26:46.309 by the name of Kendall Vildor for the Tampa Bay 00:26:46.309 --> 00:26:50.059 Buccaneers. What? Yes, he is the backup to the 00:26:50.059 --> 00:26:53.579 backup. Zion McCollum's backup is Benjamin Morrison. 00:26:53.940 --> 00:26:56.559 Benjamin Morrison missed Sunday's game, so Kendall 00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:59.819 Vildor had to play. That's great. It's very possible 00:26:59.819 --> 00:27:03.049 we may see some Kendall Vildor. So let's maybe 00:27:03.049 --> 00:27:06.670 you'll be back for blood. Who knows? So I my 00:27:06.670 --> 00:27:09.990 initial pick is either money line or take the 00:27:09.990 --> 00:27:12.750 points and the Lions. I think Baker Mayfield 00:27:12.750 --> 00:27:15.190 comes down to earth. I think Hutch in the pass 00:27:15.190 --> 00:27:17.369 rush rebound and have a really good game. I think 00:27:17.369 --> 00:27:19.190 it's going to be tough sledding without Bucky 00:27:19.190 --> 00:27:23.390 Irving running the ball. The 49ers weren't necessarily 00:27:23.390 --> 00:27:27.490 they're walking mash unit or injury unit as well. 00:27:27.809 --> 00:27:29.789 Fred Warner got hurt and is going to miss the 00:27:29.789 --> 00:27:32.990 rest of the season. So They weren't exactly a 00:27:32.990 --> 00:27:36.849 good parameter. I think, I mean, this isn't a 00:27:36.849 --> 00:27:39.910 49ers pod, and we don't play them in the regular 00:27:39.910 --> 00:27:42.430 season, but what Kyle Shanahan's been able to 00:27:42.430 --> 00:27:44.349 do to keep them afloat with the injuries they've 00:27:44.349 --> 00:27:46.890 had is nothing short of amazing. I do think Baker 00:27:46.890 --> 00:27:49.329 comes back down to Earth. I have him on fantasy. 00:27:49.490 --> 00:27:51.910 I don't plan on playing him. I don't see anybody 00:27:51.910 --> 00:27:56.170 on the offense outside of white and maybe a Gookba 00:27:56.170 --> 00:27:59.609 if he... is healthy enough to play, but I would 00:27:59.609 --> 00:28:01.990 stay away from starting any Buccaneers in this 00:28:01.990 --> 00:28:04.970 game. Maybe if you've got K -dot and is at your 00:28:04.970 --> 00:28:08.509 tight end, but that's a low, I mean, sure low. 00:28:08.829 --> 00:28:11.910 As far as fantasy on the offense, I think Jared 00:28:11.910 --> 00:28:13.910 Goff's going to have himself a whale of a game. 00:28:14.210 --> 00:28:17.289 I think both JMo and St. Brown have a game. I 00:28:17.289 --> 00:28:19.289 think Gibbs has a game. I don't know what to 00:28:19.289 --> 00:28:20.910 expect from Montgomery, so I'm going to leave 00:28:20.910 --> 00:28:22.930 that out. And I don't think Laporte is going 00:28:22.930 --> 00:28:25.269 to have two big games in a row. Not that it was 00:28:25.269 --> 00:28:27.529 a huge game for him, but he was the game ball, 00:28:27.589 --> 00:28:29.589 the only game ball that we gave out. So that's 00:28:29.589 --> 00:28:32.750 kind of my fantasy outlook. What's yours? I think, 00:28:33.109 --> 00:28:36.329 first and foremost, the Lions at home on Monday 00:28:36.329 --> 00:28:39.650 night. are gonna drop this game. I think Mayfield's 00:28:39.650 --> 00:28:42.029 playing too good right now. Mobile quarterbacks 00:28:42.029 --> 00:28:44.509 expose us. And we said it the first time this 00:28:44.509 --> 00:28:47.049 season, when we played Jordan Love, he got a 00:28:47.049 --> 00:28:49.809 little mobile on us and exposed us. Lamar Jackson, 00:28:50.190 --> 00:28:53.529 mobile didn't expose us. We obviously turned 00:28:53.529 --> 00:28:55.450 that one around, so I was wrong there. Mahomes 00:28:55.450 --> 00:28:58.130 exposed us last night. You're gonna see Baker 00:28:58.130 --> 00:29:00.829 Mayfield running all over the place. Hutch chasing 00:29:00.829 --> 00:29:03.789 him, and he's gonna make some plays. He's hot. 00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:06.359 hotter than the sun right now. And the rest of 00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:08.859 that Tampa Bay team is actually, I think, better 00:29:08.859 --> 00:29:11.220 than the Chiefs. So I'm trying to figure out 00:29:11.220 --> 00:29:12.740 what game plan we're going to throw together. 00:29:12.819 --> 00:29:15.480 Now, the Lions are bounce back team. OK, they 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.039 always have been. So maybe we get that good bounce 00:29:18.039 --> 00:29:20.420 back and that good vibe being at home. I just 00:29:20.420 --> 00:29:22.619 ripped on Kendall Vildor. He did pick a ball 00:29:22.619 --> 00:29:24.779 off this past weekend. So congrats, Kendall. 00:29:24.980 --> 00:29:26.660 Maybe you're having some sort of a renaissance 00:29:26.660 --> 00:29:30.420 of your career. But if they are as beat up as 00:29:30.420 --> 00:29:33.730 we as as they appear to be. then we have a chance. 00:29:33.950 --> 00:29:35.589 But some of these guys that we have beat up, 00:29:35.849 --> 00:29:38.630 for instance, Branch has been beat up. You know, 00:29:38.769 --> 00:29:40.650 you've got a couple guys there that I'd like 00:29:40.650 --> 00:29:43.950 to see healthy and I don't know how much, you 00:29:43.950 --> 00:29:46.329 know, Kirby, we can't have Kirby beat up running 00:29:46.329 --> 00:29:49.349 around out there too. Both safeties, starting 00:29:49.349 --> 00:29:51.950 safeties are beat up. Yeah. And not to mention, 00:29:52.250 --> 00:29:54.069 Brian Branch might be suspended for this game. 00:29:54.170 --> 00:29:56.730 Yeah, he may be. So that is part of the news 00:29:56.730 --> 00:29:59.009 coming out today is that for the punch he might 00:29:59.009 --> 00:30:01.950 be suspended. If he is. I can't argue against 00:30:01.950 --> 00:30:04.309 it and it certainly he doesn't have his coaches 00:30:04.309 --> 00:30:07.250 support. Yeah Whatsoever. I just don't know that 00:30:07.250 --> 00:30:09.490 we have the defense to contain Baker Mayfield 00:30:09.490 --> 00:30:12.390 and any of the receivers the Tampa Bay chooses 00:30:12.390 --> 00:30:14.829 to throw at us They have some fairly talented 00:30:14.829 --> 00:30:17.599 young guys there. That said you never know We 00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:19.980 could just, you know, restore the roar for the 00:30:19.980 --> 00:30:22.799 next weekend and the Lions win the game. But 00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:24.960 I just I'm not that five and a half line that 00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:27.440 I think it opened at Lions minus five and a half. 00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:29.680 I am taking Tampa Bay in the five and a half 00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:32.599 all day. I saw four and a half and I'm going 00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:35.700 Lions four and a half line. OK, OK. So we're 00:30:35.700 --> 00:30:37.700 in a disagreement here as the outcome of this, 00:30:37.700 --> 00:30:40.059 which is good. That's healthy or either. I wouldn't 00:30:40.059 --> 00:30:42.119 do both. Yes. And I'm going to ride the Lions 00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:44.779 on this one. And here's why. If the Buccaneers 00:30:44.779 --> 00:30:48.960 had Bucky Irving. and the full slate of Goodwin, 00:30:49.299 --> 00:30:52.660 Evans, and the rookie. Yeah. That's kind of what 00:30:52.660 --> 00:30:54.680 gives me my only pause in this, is they don't 00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:57.539 have their guys. No way, no how. Mike Evans is 00:30:57.539 --> 00:31:01.619 a mismatch galore because he's huge, awesome, 00:31:01.779 --> 00:31:04.200 he runs great routes. He's probably future Hall 00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:06.380 of Famer. Yeah, I was just about to say, future 00:31:06.380 --> 00:31:09.799 Hall of Famer. Yeah, without those guys, I think 00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:12.599 it's who's Baker's gonna throw to. If the Lions 00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:15.460 can stop White in the running game, they're gonna 00:31:15.460 --> 00:31:18.220 make the Buccaneers very one -dimensional. And 00:31:18.220 --> 00:31:20.700 Baker has not turned the ball over with great 00:31:20.700 --> 00:31:23.230 frequency this year. Yeah. And I can see it a 00:31:23.230 --> 00:31:27.150 game where you're gonna see a few turnovers going 00:31:27.150 --> 00:31:29.450 the lion's way. The defense can win this game 00:31:29.450 --> 00:31:32.529 then. They can turn the ball over a few times, 00:31:32.650 --> 00:31:34.849 flip the tables. If it's a shootout, I think 00:31:34.849 --> 00:31:37.910 it's gonna go a lot like yesterday's game win. 00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.119 And I think the Lions will come up short. So 00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:43.240 they are going to need to stop the Buccaneers 00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:47.019 three, maybe four times. The Chiefs only punted 00:31:47.019 --> 00:31:49.740 once yesterday. And that's probably the secret 00:31:49.740 --> 00:31:52.339 to the game, is that they could never get the 00:31:52.339 --> 00:31:56.279 Chiefs off the field when they needed to. For 00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:58.119 the Lions, you asked me about fantasy. For the 00:31:58.119 --> 00:32:01.119 Lions, fantasy -wise, Gibbs and Amun Ra are like 00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:03.640 automatic plug -and -play every game. It really 00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:05.559 comes down to would you play Jared Goff? Would 00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:08.240 you play... I said I would. Would you play Laporta? 00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:11.039 Would you play... I think... I don't think I 00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:14.200 would play Goff in this one. I would play Laporta, 00:32:14.619 --> 00:32:16.599 though. He's kind of been coming up pretty big 00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:19.240 lately. Sure. Four, five, six catches a game. 00:32:19.299 --> 00:32:21.950 60 yards seems to be about... the norm for him. 00:32:22.349 --> 00:32:24.970 So the name to watch for our loyal listeners 00:32:24.970 --> 00:32:29.210 and insiders, Vita Vea is the three technique 00:32:29.210 --> 00:32:33.250 defensive tackle galore for the Buccaneers and 00:32:33.250 --> 00:32:36.410 the Buccaneers have given the Lions fits. Yep. 00:32:36.670 --> 00:32:39.089 And Vita has been on the... Last season they 00:32:39.089 --> 00:32:42.690 beat the Lions at Ford Field and the season previous 00:32:42.690 --> 00:32:45.589 they gave the Lions fits and everything they 00:32:45.589 --> 00:32:48.609 could handle in the playoffs. And Vita's name 00:32:48.609 --> 00:32:52.039 gets called almost every play. He is an absolute 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:56.079 stud. So Graham Glasgow, Christian Mahogany and 00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:58.619 Tate Ratledge are going to have their absolute. 00:32:58.779 --> 00:33:00.799 It's going to be a nightmare day for them. They're 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:02.900 going to be black and blue. That's going to be 00:33:02.900 --> 00:33:05.460 the key to the game. He can disrupt the game 00:33:05.460 --> 00:33:09.420 and single -handedly probably put the Buccaneers 00:33:09.420 --> 00:33:11.720 in a position to win it. The last thing I was 00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.839 going to say is coaching. You've got Todd Bowles 00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:17.900 up against Dan Campbell. This is a clear mismatch 00:33:17.900 --> 00:33:21.099 in the favor of Campbell. Bowles has done a great 00:33:21.099 --> 00:33:24.319 job getting sharp offensive minds in. The problem 00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.799 is they always leave. And so Liam Cohen was their 00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.400 offensive coordinator last year. He's now the 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:32.940 head coach of the Jaguars and sort of a good 00:33:32.940 --> 00:33:35.579 problem to have, bad problem to have. Yeah, yeah. 00:33:35.660 --> 00:33:38.440 I mean, it's one of those. We know about that. 00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:40.579 Yeah, we do. It worked out OK for us to this 00:33:40.579 --> 00:33:43.339 point. Yeah, so. Just a couple more things to 00:33:43.339 --> 00:33:47.920 look at. I would suggest listeners focus here. 00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:50.859 The Litterbox Detroit Tigers podcast has come 00:33:50.859 --> 00:33:53.940 to an end like the Tigers season. And with that, 00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:57.259 go Honolulu Bloons Silver. Go Lions. We will 00:33:57.259 --> 00:34:00.839 have a Tigers season wrap up. So look out for 00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:03.799 that on the Litterbox Detroit Tigers. But yes, 00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:06.180 for now, it's all football all the time outside 00:34:06.180 --> 00:34:08.840 of that one. So go Lions. Let's hope for the 00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:09.699 best on Monday night.