WEBVTT 00:00:06.380 --> 00:00:11.939 This is the Litterbox, a Detroit Lions podcast 00:00:11.939 --> 00:00:15.640 with your hosts, Chet West and Bill Patterson. 00:00:18.379 --> 00:00:22.379 Lions Litterbox listeners, welcome back to the 00:00:22.379 --> 00:00:24.719 Litterbox, a Detroit Lions podcast with your 00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:28.679 hosts, Chet West and Billy P from the D Patterson. 00:00:28.809 --> 00:00:31.190 We had an interesting game there against Cleveland, 00:00:31.250 --> 00:00:33.969 took care of business. What I would say fairly 00:00:33.969 --> 00:00:36.829 easily wasn't the cleanest game, and I think 00:00:36.829 --> 00:00:39.310 Dan Campbell would agree with us. Offense at 00:00:39.310 --> 00:00:42.810 times sputtered, defense at times looked beatable, 00:00:42.929 --> 00:00:45.869 but Browns were just no match in the end, really. 00:00:46.009 --> 00:00:48.810 Bill, any thoughts on last weekend's game? Yeah, 00:00:48.810 --> 00:00:51.270 the final score probably wasn't as indicative. 00:00:51.490 --> 00:00:55.229 You know, 34 to 10 is like the actual game was. 00:00:56.130 --> 00:00:59.560 That being out there in the ether. What I would 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:02.939 say is the Browns defense is legit. Their front 00:01:02.939 --> 00:01:04.579 four is as good as you're going to see in the 00:01:04.579 --> 00:01:07.319 NFL. They drafted with the first pick in the 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:09.659 second round, a guy named Carson Swessinger, 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:13.319 who I'm seeing at the Jim Caldwell quarter poll 00:01:13.319 --> 00:01:17.019 of the NFL season, in which our Honolulu Blue 00:01:17.019 --> 00:01:20.180 Warriors and Silver Warriors are three and one 00:01:20.180 --> 00:01:24.640 atop the NFC Norris division. Going back to my 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:27.780 point, Carson Swessinger is a great linebacker 00:01:27.780 --> 00:01:29.540 who could be defensive rookie of the year through 00:01:29.540 --> 00:01:32.219 the quarter pole and their cornerbacks, whether 00:01:32.219 --> 00:01:34.599 it's in a nickel or a straight four or a dime, 00:01:34.859 --> 00:01:37.540 play really well. So the Lions had tough sledding 00:01:37.540 --> 00:01:39.900 on it, but again, the offensive line wore him 00:01:39.900 --> 00:01:43.209 down. And I am convinced that Panay Sewell is 00:01:43.209 --> 00:01:45.430 the best offensive lineman in the NFL. I'm pretty 00:01:45.430 --> 00:01:48.870 sure he is at this point. And our PFF grades 00:01:48.870 --> 00:01:50.189 are going to give you here in a little bit. I'll 00:01:50.189 --> 00:01:52.189 prove that out too. I think it's one of these 00:01:52.189 --> 00:01:54.969 things where you got the best defense in the 00:01:54.969 --> 00:01:57.810 NFL coming into the game. Not sure where exactly 00:01:57.810 --> 00:02:00.230 the Browns are ranked now after we tore them 00:02:00.230 --> 00:02:02.890 apart, but best defense in the NFL coming into 00:02:02.890 --> 00:02:06.489 the game. And they may have been the reason why 00:02:06.489 --> 00:02:09.330 our offense just didn't look to be operating 00:02:09.330 --> 00:02:12.460 at top. Level at times in this game. You're gonna 00:02:12.460 --> 00:02:15.120 run into that I mean a great offense can make 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:18.060 a great defense look bad a Great defense can 00:02:18.060 --> 00:02:20.960 make a great offense look bad at times. So I'm 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:23.520 chalking it up to that I have no we can go through 00:02:23.520 --> 00:02:26.699 the PFF grades and I can show you that everything's 00:02:26.699 --> 00:02:29.900 down a little bit for the offense So maybe that's 00:02:29.900 --> 00:02:31.819 maybe that's telling maybe that's a piece of 00:02:31.819 --> 00:02:33.879 it. It's kind of like baseball You know good 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:36.159 pitching can make a good offense look bad good 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:38.439 hitters look bad I go with it. I kind of went 00:02:38.439 --> 00:02:39.840 with it on that. It seemed like a little bit 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:42.300 of a struggle of a game at times. We talked about 00:02:42.300 --> 00:02:44.979 the Lions offense eventually wearing down the 00:02:44.979 --> 00:02:46.680 Browns defense and how good the Browns defense 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:48.680 is. Let's talk about the other two phases of 00:02:48.680 --> 00:02:50.860 the game, because that's really the keys to what 00:02:50.860 --> 00:02:53.379 happened in the outcome of this fight away. So. 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:56.460 One, you know, since I'm Billy Special Teams, 00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:59.580 I absolutely had to love... You and your special 00:02:59.580 --> 00:03:02.060 teams. Kaleef Raymond had a huge punt return 00:03:02.060 --> 00:03:04.199 for a touchdown that was absolutely awesome. 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:07.840 Every listener of our sister pod, the Detroit 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:09.719 Tigers litter box, knows my favorite play in 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:12.080 baseball is a triple. My favorite play in football 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:15.060 is a punt return for a touchdown. Really? That's 00:03:15.060 --> 00:03:16.939 interesting. I did not know that. Love it. Love 00:03:16.939 --> 00:03:20.419 it. Love... fab fabulous information. So I love, 00:03:20.780 --> 00:03:24.580 I love something too. And then the Jake Jack 00:03:24.580 --> 00:03:29.159 brothers were fantastic and Fox and Bates Bates 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:33.240 hit monster field goals and Fox. Every punt was 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:35.860 inside the 20 pinning the Browns and deep in 00:03:35.860 --> 00:03:39.069 their area, their own, you know, zone. And then 00:03:39.069 --> 00:03:40.789 let's talk about the Browns offense. This is 00:03:40.789 --> 00:03:44.370 really where the Lions emerged victorious, despite 00:03:44.370 --> 00:03:47.469 the fact that now in four straight games, our 00:03:47.469 --> 00:03:49.830 Honolulu blue and silver warriors have given 00:03:49.830 --> 00:03:54.469 up an opening drive touchdown. So if Dan Campbell. 00:03:54.889 --> 00:03:58.069 picks to receive the kick to start the game one 00:03:58.069 --> 00:04:00.129 more time, I'm going to be really upset because 00:04:00.129 --> 00:04:02.810 they go three and out, allow a touchdown, and 00:04:02.810 --> 00:04:04.849 I'm already miserable midway through the first 00:04:04.849 --> 00:04:07.530 quarter. Almost like it's scripted at that point. 00:04:07.530 --> 00:04:09.870 It really is such an oddity because I think the 00:04:09.870 --> 00:04:12.930 Browns had some absolute record of futility this 00:04:12.930 --> 00:04:14.550 year in the first quarter, like hadn't scored 00:04:14.550 --> 00:04:16.589 any first quarter points or something crazy. 00:04:16.689 --> 00:04:18.649 And here they go. They score on the very first 00:04:18.649 --> 00:04:20.949 drive of the game, which is what the Lions just 00:04:20.949 --> 00:04:23.959 seem to do. The announcer, I think it was Jonathan 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:26.079 Villamil, was like, get there slow starters this 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:28.439 season. I was like, okay, you think so? I wasn't 00:04:28.439 --> 00:04:30.720 going to bring him up, but since you did, if 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:34.019 they don't fire him immediately, he is the worst. 00:04:34.259 --> 00:04:35.579 I'm fine with him. I think I'm fine with him. 00:04:35.579 --> 00:04:37.180 Oh my God. Go to bed. I know you don't like him. 00:04:37.439 --> 00:04:41.300 I know. Chet, he made so many mistakes. He talks 00:04:41.300 --> 00:04:44.310 about, he does no research. Like, nobody knows. 00:04:44.509 --> 00:04:46.250 What team did he win a Super Bowl with? Do you 00:04:46.250 --> 00:04:48.490 know? Was it the Saints? Okay, good for you. 00:04:48.629 --> 00:04:50.370 So, like, but I bet most don't know that. Yeah, 00:04:50.410 --> 00:04:54.329 he's the worst. Anyway, Marv Albert's kid isn't 00:04:54.329 --> 00:04:57.389 much better. So, I just picture him, like, walking 00:04:57.389 --> 00:04:59.730 in. Marv Albert's kid. That's who Kenny Albert 00:04:59.730 --> 00:05:02.800 is. It's Marv Albert's kid. I know. He's got 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:06.079 a name. He's got a name. Kenny Albert. His dad 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:09.100 likes wearing women's undergarments and that's 00:05:09.100 --> 00:05:13.459 his pops. So, anyway, offense. The Browns, terrible. 00:05:13.660 --> 00:05:15.660 They've got a few pieces to build off and a couple 00:05:15.660 --> 00:05:19.319 rookies, a rookie tight end. Out of Bowling Green, 00:05:19.899 --> 00:05:22.860 number 44, I think is Harold Fanning. And then 00:05:22.860 --> 00:05:27.500 they've got Quincyne Junkins. He had some drops 00:05:27.500 --> 00:05:31.170 too. Bowling Green guy. Yeah. So, yeah, your 00:05:31.170 --> 00:05:35.350 fellow Mack brethren. But Joe Flacco's best days 00:05:35.350 --> 00:05:38.829 are long past. He has a statue. I think his career 00:05:38.829 --> 00:05:42.709 is over. He is. He has a statue back there. And 00:05:42.709 --> 00:05:46.069 Aiden Hutchinson feasted on him today. The Lions 00:05:46.069 --> 00:05:48.810 were so confident that they started opposite 00:05:48.810 --> 00:05:52.029 Hutch at the other edge position drum roll for 00:05:52.029 --> 00:05:55.350 Pat O 'Connor. That's second week in a row O 00:05:55.350 --> 00:05:58.079 'Connor started. Which is, I can't believe that 00:05:58.079 --> 00:05:59.800 you start him two weeks in a row and get two 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:02.939 wins. I don't know. All right. Let's dive into 00:06:02.939 --> 00:06:05.279 your PFF grades and then we'll preview the Cincinnati 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:08.420 Bengals. Sounds wonderful. All right. So I gave 00:06:08.420 --> 00:06:10.920 you a little hint earlier already as it is, but 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:14.240 Penesul sits atop the Lions offensive grades 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:18.040 with an 81 .9 this week. So that's the highest 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:21.620 we capped out in the week. He had an 86 .9 run 00:06:21.620 --> 00:06:25.509 block and a 68 .2 pass block. for this week's 00:06:25.509 --> 00:06:28.149 effort. I believe he was going up against Miles 00:06:28.149 --> 00:06:30.579 Garrett for a good portion of the game. Is that 00:06:30.579 --> 00:06:32.399 correct? That is correct. Or was Garrett on the 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:34.100 other end? I couldn't remember. They mixed him. 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:36.439 They mixed him back and forth. But I know he 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:38.519 was going up against Garrett for a good bulk 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:40.959 of the game. I think he played close to 40 snaps 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:42.980 against Garrett. Yeah. So that grade. That sounds 00:06:42.980 --> 00:06:44.860 about right. You can probably add 10 to 12 points 00:06:44.860 --> 00:06:46.959 to that grade, given that he was going up against, 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:50.139 in my mind, and this is no disrespect to R97. 00:06:50.139 --> 00:06:52.620 No, no. Giles Garrett is the best edge rusher 00:06:52.620 --> 00:06:55.560 in professional football. I'm not going to debate 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:57.720 that with you. He's definitely up there. Number 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:02.689 two is Amon Ross St. Brown. Mon, 70 .2 this week. 00:07:03.110 --> 00:07:07.709 Passing game grade was a 69 .7. So not what we 00:07:07.709 --> 00:07:11.410 saw previous week from Mon Ra, but still up there 00:07:11.410 --> 00:07:14.610 at a 70. And then third was Graham Glasgow at 00:07:14.610 --> 00:07:18.829 a 70. You had Jared Goff at a 66 .8. And then 00:07:18.829 --> 00:07:21.250 Laporta rounded out the top of the group with 00:07:21.250 --> 00:07:25.500 a 62 .9. So just one thought from me. Great the 00:07:25.500 --> 00:07:29.420 Graham Glasgow who was so guilty week one in 00:07:29.420 --> 00:07:32.519 Green Bay at Lambeau You know just not having 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:35.220 great communication not having great snaps being 00:07:35.220 --> 00:07:38.680 victimized by having essentially a second -year 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:41.360 player But two rookies on either side of him 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:45.620 and both guard spots and he has really Rided 00:07:45.620 --> 00:07:49.660 the ship and I am really really happy that he 00:07:49.660 --> 00:07:53.410 is a Detroit lion And I think thus far, if I 00:07:53.410 --> 00:07:56.490 had to give a game ball on the offense, I think 00:07:56.490 --> 00:07:58.990 he's getting it, even though Sewell's the best 00:07:58.990 --> 00:08:01.610 player on the offense. He had a good game run 00:08:01.610 --> 00:08:03.589 blocking this time. It was kind of odd, like 00:08:03.589 --> 00:08:05.750 he did good run blocking, but his pass blocking 00:08:05.750 --> 00:08:08.470 grade was down a little bit at 54. But either 00:08:08.470 --> 00:08:11.629 way, a 70, that's all I really expect from Graham 00:08:11.629 --> 00:08:13.269 Glasgow. How about you give me the bottom two 00:08:13.269 --> 00:08:15.110 or three on offense, and let's move over to the 00:08:15.110 --> 00:08:17.819 defense. Christian mahogany comes in at the very 00:08:17.819 --> 00:08:22.220 bottom on offense. He had a 39 .4 overall He 00:08:22.220 --> 00:08:25.980 had a 56 pass block and a forty four point two 00:08:25.980 --> 00:08:29.139 run block that Sort of shocked me cuz I don't 00:08:29.139 --> 00:08:32.019 remember him being that bad But what shocks me 00:08:32.019 --> 00:08:34.860 even more is Taylor Decker second to last with 00:08:34.860 --> 00:08:37.700 a forty point four Yeah, because Garrett was 00:08:37.700 --> 00:08:40.440 kept lighting up over that. Yeah, so There you 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:43.019 go again with, you know, the great player makes 00:08:43.019 --> 00:08:46.500 the other great player sometimes look bad. Pass 00:08:46.500 --> 00:08:51.340 block for Taylor Decker was 25 .9. That is atrocious, 00:08:51.340 --> 00:08:53.179 Taylor. I don't know what was going on out there. 00:08:53.379 --> 00:08:55.360 Well, he's got, he still has a bum shoulder. 00:08:55.460 --> 00:08:57.960 He's not practicing and he went up against, I 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:01.279 mean, we've stated that. So yeah. Yeah. So Montgomery 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:03.759 and then Ratledge were the bottom four, even 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:06.519 though I thought Tate Ratledge had a better game 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:10.470 than the guy I want to call out. that should 00:09:10.470 --> 00:09:13.850 have been last on this is Jameson Williams. He 00:09:13.850 --> 00:09:17.730 was targeted eight times and he had two catches 00:09:17.730 --> 00:09:22.279 and he looked lost. J Mo running the wrong routes. 00:09:22.539 --> 00:09:24.860 He was terrible. And now I understand like all 00:09:24.860 --> 00:09:26.919 summer and off season. I was real confused chat 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:30.179 like Johnny Mo, you know, Johnny Morton. Trust 00:09:30.179 --> 00:09:32.860 me to run more of the route tree. You know, he's 00:09:32.860 --> 00:09:34.580 introducing it and I'm like, okay, you've been 00:09:34.580 --> 00:09:37.360 a professional receiver now for this is his third 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:39.860 season, right? Yeah. And you played three seasons 00:09:39.860 --> 00:09:43.100 at Alabama, which is basically like playing for 00:09:43.100 --> 00:09:46.860 a pro program, pro team. Yeah. I'm saying that 00:09:46.860 --> 00:09:49.120 they have route trees. It's not like he was in 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:52.139 a wishbone, you know, wing tee offense. I mean, 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:55.120 he was running a pro style offense. He must be 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:58.220 the dumbest person on that roster. Well, David 00:09:58.220 --> 00:10:01.259 Montgomery only got 20 snaps and got a 44 .6. 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:03.360 And he did not have a great game, although he 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:05.659 did pass block quite well. Got a great grade 00:10:05.659 --> 00:10:08.240 for that. Jameson Williams had a 47 overall, 00:10:08.340 --> 00:10:10.259 which is terrible for a guy that you just gave 00:10:10.259 --> 00:10:13.000 millions to over the next couple of years. There 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:17.320 seem to be games where he just disappears. Not 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:20.460 only just disappears, he just plays poorly. If 00:10:20.460 --> 00:10:23.320 he just disappeared, it might be okay. At any 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:25.580 rate, yeah, we'll move on from there. Those are 00:10:25.580 --> 00:10:28.639 your offensive grades. Let me grab you some defensive 00:10:28.639 --> 00:10:31.629 grades. Things get somewhat interesting here. 00:10:31.929 --> 00:10:35.570 Alright, so at the top of the defense is our 00:10:35.570 --> 00:10:41.350 guy, Aiden Hutchinson. 92 .6. His pass rush grade 00:10:41.350 --> 00:10:46.029 was a 94 .2. Jack Campbell came in at number 00:10:46.029 --> 00:10:49.450 two. I think deservedly he seemed to be all over 00:10:49.450 --> 00:10:52.870 the field this week. Kind of like we had Derek 00:10:52.870 --> 00:10:55.370 Barnes last week was all over the field and got 00:10:55.370 --> 00:10:57.669 a fairly high grade. This week it was Jack Campbell. 00:10:57.870 --> 00:10:59.610 who was all over the field and got a high grade. 00:10:59.750 --> 00:11:02.909 He had an 89 .3 overall, and his run defense 00:11:02.909 --> 00:11:05.610 score was up there with an 81 .7, tackling an 00:11:05.610 --> 00:11:08.950 82. And number three, this one shocked me, Bill, 00:11:09.470 --> 00:11:11.470 because we didn't hear his name nearly as much 00:11:11.470 --> 00:11:13.610 this week as we did last week. But Al -Qadim 00:11:13.610 --> 00:11:16.129 Mohammed was the number three guy with an 86 00:11:16.129 --> 00:11:19.309 .2 overall. But for him, he must have been doing 00:11:19.309 --> 00:11:21.389 a lot in there that we didn't really realize. 00:11:21.509 --> 00:11:25.110 His pass rush grade was an 82 .9, which is pretty 00:11:25.110 --> 00:11:29.529 darn good. He only got 25 snaps this week. So 00:11:29.529 --> 00:11:31.970 they didn't utilize him quite as much as the 00:11:31.970 --> 00:11:34.710 previous. He was banged up. Yeah, I think he 00:11:34.710 --> 00:11:37.750 must have been. And then Nowaski and DJ Reed, 00:11:38.309 --> 00:11:41.309 unfortunately DJ Reed with the injury, rounded 00:11:41.309 --> 00:11:44.629 it out at the top five there. All right. The 00:11:44.629 --> 00:11:46.960 bottom. Give us the bottom. Tyleek Williams. 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:50.820 Tyleek had a 49. So he had a rough go, although 00:11:50.820 --> 00:11:54.059 his pass rush grade was a 60 .9. So he improved 00:11:54.059 --> 00:11:56.240 there. It was his run defense where he struggled. 00:11:56.320 --> 00:11:59.299 It's down in the f***ies. And then you had Terry 00:11:59.299 --> 00:12:02.299 and Arnold, was the second worst. He had a 58 00:12:02.299 --> 00:12:05.700 .7. His run defense and his tackling grades have 00:12:05.700 --> 00:12:07.700 always been kind of up there a little bit. He 00:12:07.700 --> 00:12:10.779 does pretty well on that, but his coverage grade 00:12:10.779 --> 00:12:13.860 was a 50. And I don't know if he's going to get 00:12:13.860 --> 00:12:16.730 it. What are your thoughts along those lines? 00:12:17.169 --> 00:12:18.950 Well, I do have thoughts on Terry and Arnold. 00:12:19.870 --> 00:12:22.710 It's the same thing as my thoughts on Jameson 00:12:22.710 --> 00:12:25.730 Williams is what's going on there with both those 00:12:25.730 --> 00:12:28.750 guys because those are two guys that the Lions 00:12:28.750 --> 00:12:31.610 have invested heavily in that we are not seeing 00:12:31.610 --> 00:12:34.110 first round production out of whatsoever. And 00:12:34.110 --> 00:12:36.190 I think it's a testament probably to how good 00:12:36.190 --> 00:12:38.590 Nick Saban was and how good his assistant coaches 00:12:38.590 --> 00:12:42.009 were. Quite possible. And no slight to MCDC. 00:12:42.230 --> 00:12:45.110 I just think the magnifying glass is on it. And 00:12:45.110 --> 00:12:48.509 so the Lions are 10 or 10 and a half point favorites 00:12:48.509 --> 00:12:51.350 this week against the Cincinnati Bengals at Paycore 00:12:51.350 --> 00:12:55.269 Stadium. Joe Burrow is not playing. He is out 00:12:55.269 --> 00:12:59.129 long term. I still think this is going to be 00:12:59.129 --> 00:13:02.470 a close game. Let's talk about the Cincinnati 00:13:02.470 --> 00:13:06.019 Bengals. Okay. The Lions are 10 or 10 or 10 and 00:13:06.019 --> 00:13:07.519 a half point favorites, depending which line 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:10.460 you see, as the visiting team at Paycore Stadium. 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:15.720 Joe Burrow is out, but so is DJ Reid. Yeah. And 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:18.720 clearly, as we just talked about, we're concerned 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:21.940 about Terian Arnold. Injury or no injury, he 00:13:21.940 --> 00:13:24.580 has not played well to start this season. If 00:13:24.580 --> 00:13:26.840 you're going to bet on this game, hammer the 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:29.559 Bengals. Higgins and Chase are going to have 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:31.620 themselves a field day. If you have either of 00:13:31.620 --> 00:13:34.220 them fantasy, take them. I do think the saving 00:13:34.220 --> 00:13:36.159 grace is that the Lions front four will be able 00:13:36.159 --> 00:13:39.740 to rush Jake Browning. I don't think the Bengals 00:13:39.740 --> 00:13:42.340 will have a real strong run game, but I do think 00:13:42.340 --> 00:13:44.419 the Lions for the fifth straight game will give 00:13:44.419 --> 00:13:46.559 up an opening drive touchdown. And I think it'll 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:48.889 be one of those two receivers that does it. What 00:13:48.889 --> 00:13:51.210 are your thoughts on what I just shared? Well, 00:13:51.210 --> 00:13:53.610 I'm going to tell you one thing that the Bengals 00:13:53.610 --> 00:13:56.370 have going against them. They have a bad quarterback. 00:13:56.730 --> 00:13:59.629 Okay. Right now in Browning, but they have a 00:13:59.629 --> 00:14:02.490 worse offensive line. Their offensive line is 00:14:02.490 --> 00:14:05.470 absolutely atrocious. Our defensive line, like 00:14:05.470 --> 00:14:07.830 you're saying the Bengals receivers should tee 00:14:07.830 --> 00:14:10.450 off on us. And I don't doubt that they probably 00:14:10.450 --> 00:14:12.470 will get their chances because I think they're 00:14:12.470 --> 00:14:15.549 going to be throwing a lot. Our D line. should 00:14:15.549 --> 00:14:18.610 have a field day on Browning. I mean, this could 00:14:18.610 --> 00:14:22.129 look like Flacco part two in a lot of ways, and 00:14:22.129 --> 00:14:25.649 maybe better. Their interior line, their guards 00:14:25.649 --> 00:14:28.809 and tackles, their guards especially, are absolutely 00:14:28.809 --> 00:14:31.250 awful. Ted Karras is their center. He's about 00:14:31.250 --> 00:14:33.429 the only redeeming quality they have on their 00:14:33.429 --> 00:14:35.409 team. I watched some of the video from last week's 00:14:35.409 --> 00:14:37.269 Gaming Against the Broncos. It was not a pretty 00:14:37.269 --> 00:14:40.309 deal. And what it does make you wonder is how 00:14:40.309 --> 00:14:43.600 much is Joe Burrow covering for? A lot. I think 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:46.159 he's in and out. He is the most valuable player 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:49.899 on his team for any team in the league. I think 00:14:49.899 --> 00:14:52.980 he covers up every wart that they have on that 00:14:52.980 --> 00:14:55.220 offense. I think you're dead right on that. I 00:14:55.220 --> 00:14:58.980 do not think that this Bengals team is going 00:14:58.980 --> 00:15:01.820 to be able to keep our defensive pass or our 00:15:01.820 --> 00:15:04.200 pass rushing check. And Chase Brown's a dangerous 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:07.080 halfback. He's good. He's good. So if they can 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:09.899 block for him, which They don't, they don't have 00:15:09.899 --> 00:15:12.340 great run block grades at all and haven't blocked 00:15:12.340 --> 00:15:14.679 for him that well. He makes a lot on his own 00:15:14.679 --> 00:15:16.919 though. So yeah, you're right. I mean, Higgins 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:22.220 and Higgins and Chase should have a day and they're 00:15:22.220 --> 00:15:23.460 going to get a lot of chances. They're going 00:15:23.460 --> 00:15:24.860 to be throwing the box. I think we're going to 00:15:24.860 --> 00:15:27.980 get up on them. I don't think their defense is 00:15:27.980 --> 00:15:31.799 very good at all either. No, it's secondary problem 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:34.879 for them. I mean, they've got Hendrickson and 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:37.460 a bunch of other dudes. Yeah, they got Hendrickson. 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:41.299 a whole bunch of other awful players starting. 00:15:41.379 --> 00:15:43.799 I mean, their middle linebackers are bad. We 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:45.740 could have a field day running in this game. 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:47.960 We're going to. So can I do the human interest 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:50.480 story? Yeah. Give us a human interest story. 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:53.039 The Tom Rinaldi human interest story on the sidelines. 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:56.039 I love this. I love this. So give it to us. It's 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:59.440 Knuckles homecoming, David Montgomery. He is 00:15:59.440 --> 00:16:02.460 from the Cincinnati area, was not recruited heavily 00:16:02.460 --> 00:16:06.659 except by Iowa State, went there drafted by the 00:16:06.659 --> 00:16:09.330 Bears. and signed with Alliance as a free agent. 00:16:09.990 --> 00:16:13.129 There was a tragic and unfortunate accident involving 00:16:13.129 --> 00:16:16.090 his sister where she was paralyzed I believe 00:16:16.090 --> 00:16:18.929 from like the shoulders down and she has not 00:16:18.929 --> 00:16:23.269 been able to see him play because she lacks the 00:16:23.269 --> 00:16:26.169 ability to travel distances and he has yet to 00:16:26.169 --> 00:16:28.649 play in his professional career in his hometown 00:16:28.649 --> 00:16:32.649 of Cincinnati. That will happen at 325 Central 00:16:32.649 --> 00:16:36.539 Standard Time this Sunday. He is gonna go off. 00:16:36.580 --> 00:16:39.960 So I echo everything you said I I think he's 00:16:39.960 --> 00:16:43.059 gonna get between he's gonna get two touchdowns 00:16:43.059 --> 00:16:44.419 I just don't know how many more he's gonna get 00:16:44.419 --> 00:16:46.980 them that and I also see Sonic almost having 00:16:46.980 --> 00:16:50.779 the week off if you would in terms of I think 00:16:50.779 --> 00:16:53.159 they're gonna let Montgomery have the start and 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:55.240 I think they're gonna give him the lion's shares 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:58.840 of the carries so if there's a fantasy guy in 00:16:58.840 --> 00:17:02.100 the backfield to play and I would never sit Sonic, 00:17:02.220 --> 00:17:04.180 but I'm just saying I think the picture click 00:17:04.349 --> 00:17:06.730 For this one, the picture click might be Monty. 00:17:06.990 --> 00:17:09.130 And then at this point, if you have St. Brown 00:17:09.130 --> 00:17:12.029 on your roster and aren't starting him or having 00:17:12.029 --> 00:17:13.910 him be a feature, you're... I don't know why 00:17:13.910 --> 00:17:16.470 you wouldn't. He's Jerry Rice reincarnated. And 00:17:16.470 --> 00:17:18.710 then Sam Laporte would be my other one outside 00:17:18.710 --> 00:17:21.029 of that. I wouldn't touch JMO until this gets 00:17:21.029 --> 00:17:23.359 straightened out. And you've been to this stadium 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:26.200 before, so you know what the Bengal football 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:27.720 atmosphere is like over there. I actually have 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:29.359 a good buddy of mine here in town. His cousin 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:31.519 is Zach Taylor. Oh, that's cool. The head coach. 00:17:31.700 --> 00:17:33.619 Yeah. Except he's under a little bit of fire 00:17:33.619 --> 00:17:35.880 right now. Things are not good in Cincinnati 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:39.240 right now. Things are rough. I mean, they have 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:42.380 a disproportion. They're the Cowboys of Ohio 00:17:42.380 --> 00:17:46.630 because they have four players. Jamar chase T 00:17:46.630 --> 00:17:49.750 Higgins, Joe burrow and Trey Hendrickson making 00:17:49.750 --> 00:17:52.170 a disproportionate amount of their salary. So 00:17:52.170 --> 00:17:55.309 when they hit on draft picks, they resemble a 00:17:55.309 --> 00:17:57.789 playoff team or as far as Joe burrow can carry 00:17:57.789 --> 00:18:01.390 them when one of the four or two of the four 00:18:01.390 --> 00:18:03.349 aren't playing, which has happened the years 00:18:03.349 --> 00:18:04.910 they don't make the playoffs. That's kind of 00:18:04.910 --> 00:18:07.529 the story, but yeah, it's a turf grass field. 00:18:07.670 --> 00:18:10.049 It's along the river. You can walk over all these 00:18:10.049 --> 00:18:13.309 pedestrian bridges pretty much. whether you stay 00:18:13.309 --> 00:18:15.789 on the Kentucky side or on the Ohio side, it's 00:18:15.789 --> 00:18:19.210 easily walkable. The fans couldn't be nicer. 00:18:19.430 --> 00:18:22.589 Everybody tailgates along the river. And so there's 00:18:22.589 --> 00:18:25.049 beer vendors, food vendors. They do a good job. 00:18:25.210 --> 00:18:27.990 I, I, you know, I would say as far as visiting 00:18:27.990 --> 00:18:31.609 NFL stadiums, I'd probably give it like a 8 .5 00:18:31.609 --> 00:18:35.130 or a nine. I mean, like no real weakness. Yeah. 00:18:36.349 --> 00:18:38.490 So what, and you like Laporta too. Cause I want 00:18:38.490 --> 00:18:40.500 to know, am I playing Laporta this week? Play 00:18:40.500 --> 00:18:43.500 La Porta. He's had some middling weeks. We'll 00:18:43.500 --> 00:18:45.680 just put it that way. Better last week probably 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:48.319 than previously, but I would play La Porta, I 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:52.299 think. And I wouldn't be surprised if Sonic has 00:18:52.299 --> 00:18:54.319 more yards than Montgomery, but Montgomery is 00:18:54.319 --> 00:18:56.660 going to get all the goal line looks. Yeah, so 00:18:56.660 --> 00:18:58.200 I think you're right on that. You're going to 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:00.880 get Montgomery a Tuddy or two. And then one last 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:03.240 week. So and the game ball is going to go to 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:06.500 his sister if the Lions pulled us out. So I get 00:19:06.500 --> 00:19:09.079 a story. So I'm going to do prediction time. 00:19:09.099 --> 00:19:11.579 I agree with you on the defense. I'm going to 00:19:11.579 --> 00:19:16.440 say 38 to 13 Lions. I do think they're going 00:19:16.440 --> 00:19:18.940 to give up some yards. I'm worried just now that 00:19:18.940 --> 00:19:22.130 DJ reads out. Uh, and I'll go through the injury 00:19:22.130 --> 00:19:25.250 report real quick for you. Kahlil Dorsey's on 00:19:25.250 --> 00:19:28.549 it. And so is Terry on Arnold. So is Kirby Joseph. 00:19:28.670 --> 00:19:31.650 So you've got three stalwarts in that backend. 00:19:32.130 --> 00:19:33.630 I agree with you. The Lions are going to put 00:19:33.630 --> 00:19:36.049 pressure on Jake Browning. Who's not a good quarterback. 00:19:36.410 --> 00:19:39.009 I still think if Terry on Arnold doesn't play 00:19:39.009 --> 00:19:41.109 better than he has through the quarter poll this 00:19:41.109 --> 00:19:45.160 year and if Dorsey. And Joseph are, you know, 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:48.039 a little banged up. No read. It puts our secondary 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:50.940 as the one weak spot on the field for your Detroit 00:19:50.940 --> 00:19:53.380 Lions. And I want to talk about, you know, we've 00:19:53.380 --> 00:19:55.720 talked a little about JMo. We've talked, you 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:57.740 know, somewhat about Arnold here. Do you think 00:19:57.740 --> 00:20:00.420 Arnold, with him, it seems all or nothing. He 00:20:00.420 --> 00:20:02.740 just doesn't have the ball skills. Like he goes 00:20:02.740 --> 00:20:05.420 up, he either, it's either a flag because he 00:20:05.420 --> 00:20:07.920 mugs the guy or he just completely blows the 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:10.579 coverage and the guy's off on his own somewhere. 00:20:10.740 --> 00:20:14.130 I never see him just play a guy. In good man 00:20:14.130 --> 00:20:15.710 -to -man coverage. I just don't think he's a 00:20:15.710 --> 00:20:19.609 lockdown corner or ever will be no and the problem 00:20:19.609 --> 00:20:21.960 is there were other players, we'll do it a different 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:24.740 episode because we're up against the clock that 00:20:24.740 --> 00:20:27.779 were taken in that draft that are played much 00:20:27.779 --> 00:20:30.299 better than he has. So why don't we do that a 00:20:30.299 --> 00:20:32.119 follow up? Let's see how he does this week. We're 00:20:32.119 --> 00:20:33.539 going to give him the benefit of the doubt. See 00:20:33.539 --> 00:20:35.819 if he brings it around. But the two guys I'm 00:20:35.819 --> 00:20:38.259 concerned about right now are he and Jamo for. 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:40.240 Because so much Jamo because we paid him so much 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:42.319 money. He's out there dropping footballs that 00:20:42.319 --> 00:20:44.640 he should or running the wrong route or really 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:46.769 quick route. What's your prediction? I'm going 00:20:46.769 --> 00:20:50.509 to go 42 14 lions. I'll take these real close 00:20:50.509 --> 00:20:52.289 to yours. I just don't see field goals in this 00:20:52.289 --> 00:20:54.869 one. I think it's going to be all Tuddy's here. 00:20:55.170 --> 00:20:59.009 And I think I'm actually given probably giving 00:20:59.009 --> 00:21:01.690 the Bengals a touchdown more than they're going 00:21:01.690 --> 00:21:04.170 to get. I don't see this being a pretty day at 00:21:04.170 --> 00:21:06.609 all. I see even maybe a defensive touchdown or 00:21:06.609 --> 00:21:08.950 two for us. This thing could get ugly. And I 00:21:08.950 --> 00:21:10.710 don't think things in Cincinnati are going to 00:21:10.710 --> 00:21:12.970 look pretty when it's all said and done, but 00:21:12.970 --> 00:21:16.190 it's the NFL any given Sunday. Who knows? Maybe 00:21:16.190 --> 00:21:19.490 we struggle with a team we have no business in 00:21:19.490 --> 00:21:21.789 the world struggling with. I don't know. I don't 00:21:21.789 --> 00:21:24.390 know. But yeah, that's about what I've got on 00:21:24.390 --> 00:21:27.309 that one. Anything else from you? Go Lions. Go 00:21:27.309 --> 00:21:27.750 Lions.