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This is The Litterbox, a Detroit Lions podcast

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with your hosts, Chad West and Bill Patterson.

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Welcome to the Litterbox, Lions fans. I've got

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to eat some crow today because I had us pick

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to lose along with just about every other pundit

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in the nation. You've got your host, Chet, and

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Billy P. Patterson from The D is with me here.

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And Bill, we got to give you your kudos here,

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man. You picked this win. I don't think the score

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was terribly close to what you picked, but you

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picked a win out of this one. Why did you think

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they were going to win? They were due. They were

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due. It's just a due date. It's just a due date.

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The milk wasn't going bad yet. The Ravens Dee

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had shown serious signs. We reviewed it or previewed

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it. I mean, without having that three technique

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that can penetrate and really disrupt what was

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going on between the guards and center, the Lions

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had their way. And if I can start now, the game

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ball doesn't go to... Us, the game ball goes

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to the Lions and Sonic and Knuckles each deserve

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a game ball. I know that Knuckles actually got

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one from Dan Campbell, well deserved, but they

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feasted running up the middle of the Ravens defense.

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And I know Lions fans are feeling High on cloud

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nine right now. It was a 38 30 win on Monday

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night football. It felt much bigger than the

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final score To which you mentioned earlier. I'm

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curious to see if this Ravens team is The team

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that people thought they were or if they regressed

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somewhere because that D Boy, the Lions had their

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way with them. They did and they were missing

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we talked was they were missing a couple You

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know, they're missing Van Oy key edge rusher

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They're missing interior linemen. They're missing,

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I believe, a D -back likewise. So we have some

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holes there, but we're missing people, too. I

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mean, we don't have, you know, guys like Oli

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McNeil. We're trying to fill things in. That's

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the NFL. I debate the Sonic game ball. The Knuckles

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game ball, yes, for sure. Sonic, I think what

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was interesting about this game in the beginning,

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they kept trying to run Sonic out around the

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edge and he was going nowhere. And the second

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they got Knuckles involved and started running

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up the gut with that full steam ahead, bruising

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running he does, that was kind of the difference

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maker in this game. I also think whenever they

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get Laporta involved, especially on third downs,

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good things happen. I wish he would get a couple

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more catches per game. Just a few. He was used

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primarily as a blocker, and he... Yeah. played

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a great game. And I've got to give you props.

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You said that it wasn't going to be a good Gibbs

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game. He still got two scores. He did some good

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things, but it really was not a Sonic day. The

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fact is it was really the offensive line that

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opened things up. We talked about how similar

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both backs are, Sonic and Knuckles. The difference

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is Sonic would have scored a hundred times out

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of a hundred on that long run that Knuckles had,

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that he got dragged down after, I don't know,

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X amount of yards. And that's the difference.

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You had other game balls to give out. What else

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did you want to, like they've, we've given Sonic

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and Knuckles their kudos. Who else do you want

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to give a game? Well, the O line deserves it.

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And then Johnny Moe, the offensive coordinator.

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But he called his second straight. Yeah. I don't

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want to say perfect game, but like he was great

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job. I mean he was above 95 % and They scored

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38 points in this game. They put a 52 burger

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on the Bears. That's 90 points in two games.

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Yeah, that's unreal They're operating at a high

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level right now and the Ravens don't have the

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defense they once had but it's not a bad defense

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by any stretch we still beat a good defense there

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and I think it was you that sent this video to

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me. Was it Emmanuel Ocho that was breaking down

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the reprogramming of the Ravens defense that

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Johnny Morton was doing. That is an incredible

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video. Everybody should go out and search Emanuel

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Ocho's video on the reprogramming that Johnny

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Morton did to the Ravens defense throughout the

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game. Quite a telling and insightful video there.

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You had one other game ball, though. You've mentioned

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the O -line. So we got Sewell, Ratledge, Johnny

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Moe covered. What about a certain receiver that

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you wanted to give a game ball to? Yeah. Our

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boy. Amen. The Sun God. Ra. Saint Brown. The

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Sun God gets a game ball. I feel he is, there

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is something about him. He's not huge. He's not

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some imposing possession guy that shrugs guys

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off and catches balls like a la Calvin Johnson

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or a, but he runs his routes. The man is an artisan.

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at route running. You watch the routes he runs

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are freaking perfect, and you gotta hand it to

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Goff. He puts the ball on the freaking money.

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On the money. Quote, in pure props to Jared Goff.

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He was amazing. That throw he made, where Gibbs

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couldn't even see it to get the first down, was

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perfect. But anyway, going back to this, quote,

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Goff said the best receiver he's ever played

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with was St. Brown. Yeah. And I'm starting to

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dig the Cooper Cup there. Eh, fair. It's fair.

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Fair. Fair. I'm starting to think that the comp

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for our guy, the Sun God, could be a really high

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ceiling. I used to think it was Golden Tate,

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but I think they just look alike in a way. They

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aren't really that similar. This was years ago

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when Sun God was just starting his ascendancy.

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I was like, Oh, he's like another golden tape.

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This will be great. So, uh, so much better. So

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can I, who would you, who's your comp? Jerry

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Rice. Jerry Rice. Runs great routes. Yeah. Fast

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enough, strong enough, blocks well, and is missing

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a few inches on height, but makes up for it in

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other areas. Yeah. I would say he's a little

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stronger than Rice. Stronger than Rice. But I

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know he's the greatest receiver of all time.

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Number 80, San Francisco 49er legend. I know

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those are big shoes to fill, but at this point,

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Chet, I'm going to just lay my chips on the table.

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There isn't another wide receiver that I would

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want more than Amen. You and Jared Goff. You

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and Jared Goff are double dating Amon Ra, the

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Sun God, right now. And I may jump in there for

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a four -way deal here. Do you want to give game

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balls to the defense? Bloody Jack Campbell gets

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my ball. Yeah, he had some sort of lip candy

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going there halfway through the game. I mean,

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that was just a... What happened? I don't even

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want to know what his lip looked like underneath

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all that gauze. But you liked him, you liked

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who else? Alright, so we have a nickname. It's

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we're borrowing it a little bit trying from 97

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won the ticket. Okay, Bob Muhammad Don't ask

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me Bob Muhammad the well -traveled often cut

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Muhammad, okay He had a whale of a game and he

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got a game ball from Dan Campbell and if he got

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one from coach Campbell, that's good enough for

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me I'll tell you what he's I didn't realize how

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many he's he's played. He's knocked around a

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little he's a journeyman Yeah, he's a little

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bit of a journeyman. He's finding his feet here

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He's finding his sea legs with our Detroit Lions

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right now on that line just in time too because

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we can use it but Who else he given a ball to

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his his line mate? Oh, we got to give shout out

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to Hutch. I mean, when a team can generate that

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much pass rush, seven sacks on the Baltimore

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Ravens, who have what? Either the first... He

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was flying around everywhere, old school Hutch.

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But Lamar Jackson's either what? Number 1A, 1B,

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1C? He's not an easy target. No! Not an easy

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target. And we'll do some PFF grades in a bit,

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but Hutch... Fared very well. Who else? You had

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one of the guys? Well, it's not a game ball,

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but it's a shout out. Okay, okay. The Lions have

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stuck with him through thick and thin. Yeah.

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I know what you're going through here. Yeah.

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I gotta give our guy Barnes a shout out. He had

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a heck of a game. He was disruptive all game

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long. I like that game ball. I give him the game

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ball. Give him a game ball. Not a shout out.

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He gets a game ball, too. Game ball. He gets

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one. Give him a game ball. They're cheap. We

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got tons of them in the hopper over there. Slightly

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deflated Tom Brady style ones, too. So you had

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some guys you weren't terribly happy with. Who

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drove you crazy in this one? Well, the obvious

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answer is going to be Terry and Arnold. He had

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as bad of a first half as I've seen. And Chet,

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I texted it to you during the game. I'm real

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worried about the 2024 draft for the Lions because

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we've got rake straw that can't seem to find

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the field. We've got Arnold who seems to be,

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I think I read today he's the 77th rated of 82

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or 83 defensive backs that have played a hundred

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snaps for their teams through three games. So

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he is bottom five. or bottom six in the NFL.

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The other guy that had a bad game that I'm really

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shocked. You had a surprising one here. Yeah,

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I'm curious about this. Brian Branch just didn't

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have a great game. It wasn't a Brian Branch -esque

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game. He had some trouble covering Andrews in

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a few of the assignments he got. Not that that's

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an easy task. No. But Andrews did abuse him a

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little bit. And this goes beyond just the interception

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that he should have had that he didn't. The key

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thing is Couldn't really cover tight ends and

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he was really struggling also on Justice Hill

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out of the flat. So last guy We're gonna go as

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he goes. Yeah the O line I Already gave kudos

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you gave kudos we can send bouquets. I'm still

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really worried about Graham Glasgow Yeah, that's

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it and in all honesty his grade did improve We'll

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get to the PFF here in a second, but his grades

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have improved but that's like I mean, we're inching

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our way up from a very low level. So we'll talk

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about that here in a second. So you've got your

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game balls out there. You feel good about that.

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What about, I'm going to give you another call

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out. Yeah. You nailed the punting aspect of things,

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didn't you? You and your special teams call.

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I think you even threw a little hint in there

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that Jake Bates was going to do something. Guy

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saved the touchdown. Okay. Save the touchdown,

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kicked a field goal, almost set an NFL record,

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hooked it a little left on one. I tell you what,

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Bill, you were on it with the special teams.

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That was really good. So I nailed Montgomery.

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You nailed special teams. What else did we hit

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on there? We hit on probably just you hit on

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the win. The win. Yeah. I'll take that. All right.

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Let's do them. You want to do them? Yeah. I want

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to hear these grades. Give them to me. I'm going

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to give you the top six on the offense. OK, wait.

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Top six on the offense. Number one coming out

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of the gates. And this is a very High score,

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this is actually kind of incredible. Penne Soole

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overall had a 98 .7. What? 98 .7 grade in this

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game. I knew he played well. That's almost a

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perfect grade. His run block grade, Bill, was

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a 99 .3. So he destroyed whoever was in front

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of him. His pass block was a 75 .4, not quite

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as good, but his run block was a 99 .3. They

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won the game running the ball. Yeah. Yeah, it's

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incredible for Panay and that's just like this

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is why Panay is one of the best league He gets

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grades like that and he did an excellent job.

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I think he's the best right tackle in the league.

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He's probably the best right tackle I'm talking

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about one of the best football players in the

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league. He's up there. So real quick. How many

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times has Jared Goff sacked in this game? I believe

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it was a goose egg, man. I don't remember him

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on his back. No, it was a big fat goose egg.

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I don't even remember him really getting rushed

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a whole lot, like much pressure. Maybe in the

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beginning of the game. I remember him having

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to roll out and throw a ball or two away in the

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first quarter or so. But after we got that run

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game with Montgomery going, he had all day to

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pass. You could tell they were, they took them

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completely off balance. You want number two is

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going to be a surprising one. Tate Ratledge.

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Oh, the rookie, I love it. The rookie comes in

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with a 91 .4 overall, a 90 .2 run block, and

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a 68 .5 pass block. The right side of the line

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graded very high for blocking. The right two

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graded very high for blocking. 68 .5 pass block,

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not great. So the right side of the line wasn't

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stellar in their pass blocking. Number three

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on the list, David Montgomery, Knuckles. 89 .5

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from your running back. Whoo. That is pretty

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darn good. He had a run grade of 84 .9. So number

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four, the Sun God, your guy, my guy, Jared Goff's

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guy. 86 .9 on that one and 84 .6 in the passing

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game. Excellent, excellent score for Aman Ran.

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He's our number four guy. In week one, we didn't

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have a guy that had 86 .9 overall at all. So

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you're seeing the climb up the stairs, the long

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stairway here of PFF grades for us. Taylor Decker

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was number five. So you had three guys on the

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O line that were in our top five in PFF. Decker

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had an 82 .9. 72 .6 pass block, but had excellent

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run blocking at 84 .1. That's our third lineman

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with a great run blocking score. And then Sam

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Laporta rounded it out at six for the top six,

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which I was sort of shocked at that. I didn't

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think he got He only had so many plays, but he

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had a 71. It dropped off, or excuse me, an 81

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.6, my bad. What was his blocking grade? His

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pass blocking grade was a 65 .9. His run block

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was a 76 .6. Okay, that's where... So he did

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a little better in the run block and he did the

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pass blocking. I'll go to the bottom two. I'm

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going to give you your bottom two. Well, real

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quick, just... Yeah. Decker deserves a shout

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out because he's playing hurt. Yeah. to the point

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that he's barely practicing. He's only in there

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for formational lineups and walkthroughs, non

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-contact. And he's a veteran. He's a veteran.

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I mean, he knows what he's getting. He's a wily

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veteran. And I just, I think we need to... Just

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recognize that. Go ahead. I agree. I fully agree.

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So I'm going to give you the bottom two. The

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first one's kind of cheap because they only got

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14 total snaps. So Isaac Tislaw was the bottom.

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Two small sample size. We don't want to hit him

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too hard. The bottom guy, the only guy that got

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at least half the snaps, 33 snaps, was Khalif

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Raymond. So he's a 56. He's your third or fourth

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receiver. Who cares? Yeah. So the next guy up

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was Brock Wright, and he only got 38 snaps and

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he was a 61. So our, you know, you're looking

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at a guy who was a 61 in week one. We were okay

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with a 61 as bad as things went. And now our

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bottom guys are like 61 and 56 and they're, they're

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kind of role player type things. And if you want

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to go one more up from there, since I gave you

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a couple of cheapies, the one guy who had the

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full playing time at 62 snaps that had the lowest

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score was Jamison Williams and he had a 63 .2.

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So Jamo didn't have a. Terrible game. I don't

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think by any stretch, but he got dinged a little

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on run block. I whatever I'm not gonna worry

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too much about that He had two huge catches in

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the opening two huge catches first quarter drives

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that were Graham Graham Glasgow is the lowest

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graded offensive lineman. I think we're gonna

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see that every single week He cracked sixty three

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point eight overall. So that's those are your

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offensive grades. I'm gonna jump over to defense

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real quick You have anything to add on any of

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that before I do D nothing whatsoever. All right,

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we're gonna outside of yeah I hope Graham Glasgow

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digs himself out of this hole. I hope he does

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too. We need it We need a center you saw I mean

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part of Baltimore strength, they have one of

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the best centers in the league. All these good

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quarterbacks seem to have good centers. So Graham

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needs to help. Maybe he'll climb. He is chipping

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away. He's slowly, gradually getting up there.

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I'd like to see him just crack 70. Number one

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defense, our guy, Aiden Hutchinson, 91 .8. His

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run defense score is the impressive one here

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93 .1. He was a he was great on the run pass

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rush 84 .3 not too shabby at all Shockingly,

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I'm gonna skip over the guy who's number two

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because he only had two snaps Shockingly the

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number two guy the second guy in the starters

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DJ Reid With an 83. I'm shocked. I'm actually

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Plum Shock that he scored that high. I didn't

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think he had a bad game. I didn't think he had

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a great game. I think Arnold was definitely worse.

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That's awesome given where he was against the

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Packers. 100%. And he didn't even have that great

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of a game against the Bears. So again, we're

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seeing steps in the right direction. Maybe a

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step. Maybe a step for DJ. Love it. Jack Campbell

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got number four and in 80 .1 he and his busted

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up lip. He was awesome. The number five guy,

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I'm gonna skip number five, he only got eight

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snaps. Number six was Al Khadid Muhammad, Bob

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Muhammad. Bobby. Bobby Muhammad got a 74 .5,

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not bad for him. I thought he would have been

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a little better. Pass rush grade was a 75. Makes

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me wonder if he benefited from the other guys

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on the line, like Hutch or somebody else. DJ

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Reader. Opened some things up for him. Yeah,

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and DJ Reader didn't get a great grade. Lopez

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didn't get a great grade. Lopez shouldn't. You

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know, so those guys are down the way a little.

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Same with Tyleek. Tyleek's grade, none of those

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guys cracked 60 that I just mentioned, which

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is sort of shocking. So it was all Hutch and

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Muhammad, apparently. Yeah, I thought Williams

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held his own. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's again,

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he's a rookie. So yeah, I think he held his own.

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I'll tell you that this the bad ones. Go ahead.

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Who's in the naughty chair or in the back of

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the classroom? Because he was a starter in this

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game and he took 20 snaps. Patrick O 'Connor.

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Got a thirty four point nine. He's not a real

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starter. It's not a real starter We did in this

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game the next guy up of Meek Robertson had had

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a thirty eight point seven I don't remember Amiek

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being that bad. I don't remember him being good.

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He must have gotten torched on a few plays or

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something happened there. He had a really low

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coverage score at 37 .7 and a really low tackle

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score. So he must have slipped off a few tackles.

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If you, the name you're looking for here, the

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name you're looking for, Terry and Arnold was

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the third lowest overall and he had 51 snaps.

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So he's the guy that scored the lowest of the

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regulars. So can I give you a couple things that

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just to chew on, it's too soon to say it's concerning.

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In Dan Campbell's presser, he basically alluded

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to the fact that Arnold's struggling and they're

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aware of it and that Robertson only plays nickel

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primarily, meaning when three linebackers are

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on the field, he's not on the field. Yeah for

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defensive backs. So if you want your two guys

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that played all the snaps, it's Arnold and branch

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They scored the lowest and they both basically

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got a 45. So that's your That's your sore spot

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for this. All right. Let me finish this Yeah,

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Campbell basically said that Robertson's gonna

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be taking some of those snaps interesting away

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from Arnold Interesting just something for our

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listeners to keep an eye on. I wonder if that'll

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benefit us that much I mean is our own there's

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is Robertson that much better don't know We will

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find out. Dirt. So that's a great, there it is,

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lead in to the next opponent that the Lions play

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from the AFC North. That would be the Cleveland

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Browns, the city that I was born in. And the

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Browns currently are nine and a half point dogs.

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That line has jumped a full point since it opened.

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That is shocking. The over under is 44 and a

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half. If you want to take the money line in the

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Browns, it's plus 400. And my thoughts on this,

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and I will let you go, you know, as soon as I'm

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done, I'm giving the points all day long. Browns

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have the number one defense in the league right

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now, and they're number one against the run.

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I am not taking the Lions and the points on this.

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I'm also taking the under, and I wouldn't touch

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that money line for all the tea in China. Remember

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how I said the last game was going to be low

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-scoring? I think this is going to be a low -scoring

00:22:05.730 --> 00:22:07.670
affair. This might be a... Very low -scoring.

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This might be a knock -down, drag -out type deal.

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I don't see the Browns having much offense. No.

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That's our one saving grace. That's going to

00:22:15.009 --> 00:22:19.359
be a very, very interesting... I mean... Let's

00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:22.339
just hope that we don't have the letdown of losing

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to a Browns team after we just did what we did

00:22:24.440 --> 00:22:27.539
in Baltimore. They gave fits to the Packers.

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They gave fits to the Packers and beat them.

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I've got a great prediction for you, so just

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wait till we get to it. Okay. Okay. I understand.

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So let's do our, do you have anything to add

00:22:36.660 --> 00:22:40.539
on betting until I go to fantasy? I'm not touching

00:22:40.539 --> 00:22:43.740
the line in that game either way. Okay. I'd probably

00:22:43.740 --> 00:22:46.880
take the under on the 44 and a half. And that

00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:50.460
would be about it. Yeah, I agree with that. I'm

00:22:50.460 --> 00:22:52.980
taking the under. Okay, to your point about the

00:22:52.980 --> 00:22:57.039
putrid or non -existent Browns offense, if you

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have any Brown starters outside of Jenkins, and

00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:05.299
even if you have Jenkins, I would sit every single

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one of them. They are not going to score a lot

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of points this week. When you hear my prediction,

00:23:09.460 --> 00:23:11.440
you're going to understand why. If you're in

00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:14.319
a kicker league, maybe, but... The Browns almost

00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:16.500
early taking kickers. You are a big special teams

00:23:16.500 --> 00:23:23.180
fan these days. I am and So let's go to the Lions

00:23:23.180 --> 00:23:27.480
and who who I think I would skip on Sonic and

00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:29.420
Knuckles this week I think the Lions are gonna

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struggle to run the ball. I do think catches

00:23:33.460 --> 00:23:37.880
will in the intermediate routes will be Available

00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:39.859
tell me we're gonna have a Laporta game this

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week. That way I have good Two picks to click

00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:45.960
fantasy wise. One is the Sun God. The other is

00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:49.420
your boy, Sam Laporta. I think he is going to

00:23:49.420 --> 00:23:53.019
feast this week to the tune of at least one touchdown.

00:23:53.299 --> 00:23:56.079
I think he's going to get double digit targets

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and I don't know, six plus catches. I think the

00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:03.559
Sun God is basically a plug and play. pick to

00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:05.799
click for basically every game for the rest of

00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:09.519
the season. But Laporta, I liked seeing that

00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:11.440
you had him on your little list here. My notes

00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:13.680
say Laporta and I was getting very excited. Have

00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:16.819
your prediction first or fantasy? Here's what

00:24:16.819 --> 00:24:19.869
I'm going to say, OK? I agree with you in the

00:24:19.869 --> 00:24:22.509
run game for fantasy I wouldn't touch Sonic or

00:24:22.509 --> 00:24:24.289
Knuckles if I had to touch either one of them

00:24:24.289 --> 00:24:26.730
it'd probably be Knuckles again I think they're

00:24:26.730 --> 00:24:29.630
gonna run him if anybody with against these strong

00:24:29.630 --> 00:24:32.230
defensive lines and these fronts I think he's

00:24:32.230 --> 00:24:34.910
the guy to go with I still think Sonic can do

00:24:34.910 --> 00:24:37.150
damage I just don't think he's gonna get what

00:24:37.150 --> 00:24:39.509
Knuckles will get in types in these types of

00:24:39.509 --> 00:24:44.190
games And as far as as far as, uh, yeah, St.

00:24:44.289 --> 00:24:45.990
Brown, the product totally agree. You got me

00:24:45.990 --> 00:24:50.309
on that. Let's let's maneuver here. What's next

00:24:50.309 --> 00:24:53.990
prediction prediction. And I agree with your,

00:24:53.990 --> 00:24:56.849
uh, knuckles, uh, if I had to pick one of the

00:24:56.849 --> 00:25:00.490
two, but I'm still staying away and I am going

00:25:00.490 --> 00:25:09.500
to go 2316 lions. Really? Okay. Low scoring affair.

00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:13.759
It's gonna hit the under and I think the Browns

00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:16.660
are gonna Score a lot of field goals. I'm gonna

00:25:16.660 --> 00:25:20.880
I'm gonna go close. I'm going 2013 Lions. Okay,

00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:22.920
great I think there's gonna be a couple of field

00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:25.740
goals in this game. Yeah, I mean you and I are

00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:28.559
Yeah, we're pretty aligned on this one, which

00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:30.819
scares me. I feel like we're in trouble here,

00:25:30.859 --> 00:25:33.740
but we don't want to jinx anything. Knock on

00:25:33.740 --> 00:25:36.539
wood in your head. But at the same time, I think

00:25:36.539 --> 00:25:39.039
that's, I think those are sensible picks for

00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:40.359
a game like this. I don't think they're going

00:25:40.359 --> 00:25:42.640
to cover the spread, but I think they may flirt

00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:44.579
with it. And I think that's going to stay somewhat

00:25:44.579 --> 00:25:46.279
close throughout the game. It might be kind of

00:25:46.279 --> 00:25:49.119
a messy game at Fordfield. I think being a home

00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:52.759
game helps us. That's, that's immensely helpful.

00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:57.619
Bill any final thoughts go Honolulu blue and

00:25:57.619 --> 00:26:01.140
silver and we'll talk to you Hopefully once we

00:26:01.140 --> 00:26:03.420
get the victory. I love it