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This is the Litterbox, a Detroit Lions podcast

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with your hosts, Chad West and Bill Patterson.

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Welcome to the Detroit Lions Litterbox. And wow,

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is all I can say for our Honolulu Blue and Silver

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Warriors winners. 52 to 21 over the Chicago Bears.

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And Chet, I have to say that's as much fun as

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I've had on a Sunday afternoon in a long time.

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It's as good as he gets. As good as he gets,

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Bill. It really was. It was a riot. Jared Goff

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threw for five touchdowns. So right off the bat,

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he had a career day and I believe he was only

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0 .02 away from having a perfect QBR. So not

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only did the Lions get the win, but Jared Goff

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was outstanding, as was the rest of the team.

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And with that, I'd like to ask you, we had three

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keys to the game. How did you and I do with our

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crystal ball on that? So I think we did pretty

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good with this. We brought up the very first

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key of the game we brought up was Amon Rassein

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Brown versus like, who is going to cover the

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guy? And it didn't really matter. They all failed.

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He did an incredible job. We'll talk about our

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PFF grades here in a little bit. But he was he

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was top dog this past week. The second one and

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probably an even bigger key to the game would

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have been the interior line versus Chicago's

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interior D line. So our interior much maligned

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interior line from week one performed much better

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in week two. On the run block side of things.

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They didn't blow it out of the water, but they

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still were about 20 beats higher than they were

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in week one, which tells you how bad they were

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in week one. In week two, they were acceptable,

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at least. In the pass block, everybody did quite

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well across the line for pass blocking. So that

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O -line pretty much dominated Chicago's D -line

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for most of the game. The only guy that gave

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him any real heart failure would have been Sweatt,

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and he's... going to do that to everybody because

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he's an elite pass rusher. So we had a good game

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on that key and won that one. And then the last

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one was Lyons, D .C., Kelvin Sheppard versus

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the Bears head coach Ben Johnson. I'm not going

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to sit here and say that Sheppard out game plan

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him or out. I just don't think Ben Johnson has

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the horses on that Bears offense to keep up with

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with many. I don't think Caleb Williams. is a

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top -tier single caller. I think Roman Zay is

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a pretty good wide receiver. He did a great job

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in that game, and he definitely made Terry and

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Arnold look a little silly once in a while. Outside

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of that, and DJ Reed for that matter, outside

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of that, I think that maybe they were just outmatched

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talent -wise personally, but we'll give this

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to Kelvin Sheppard, did his job, had the defense

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ready, put the Bears in their place. So those

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three keys of the game, we won them all. And

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we go... winning the game running away. Benedict

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Johnson does not have the horses. No, which is

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a clear indictment or indictment on Ryan Poles

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and just how lousy he's drafted. And here's the

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weird thing. When we talk about how many weapons

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he has at his disposal, Luther Bolden, the third

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was a second round pick. He had one. Catch they

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drafted. I believe tenth overall a guy named

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Colston Loveland from the University of Michigan

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is a tight end He had one target zero catches.

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So the Bears are investing resources, but in

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high draft picks in positions that should yield

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fruit if the lines, both O and D are set. And

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the problem is the bears went the route you don't

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want to go, which is free agency for both lines.

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And they're clearly overpaying a guy that we

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used to know well, Jonah Jackson, who I can't

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wait for your PFF grades. He didn't score that

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bad. He didn't score that bad. I'll give you

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a little preamble. He didn't. The right side

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of the Bears offensive line was abused all day

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and maligned and he is part of that right side.

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So I'm a little surprised to hear that, which

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again, I don't totally trust these PFF grades.

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They have flaws. So, let's dive into your PFF

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grades. Alright, here we go. Let's talk about

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the Lions. I'm gonna give you the Lions number

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one guy on the field, PFF -wise. 91 .6 for Amon

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Ross St. Brown. He was the top offensive performer.

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No surprise there, right? He had a 91 .4 pass

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grade, so he did quite well. Jared Goff was number

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two at 85 .1 on the offense. And right behind

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him was only 17 snaps. Isaac Tesla, co -slaught.

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And then he had JMo with a 74 .8. Brock Wright

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checking in with a 74 .6. Thank you. Played a

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good deal of snaps. His passing grade was an

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89 .3. His pass block. Don't sleep on this. Tight

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-end pass blocking was a 74 .4. That's pretty

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decent. I like that a lot. His run blocking,

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not so great. 53 .1. Penne Sewell was the top

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rated lineman outside of Brock Wright being the

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tight end. He had a 74 .2 overall. Pass block

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was a 66 .8. We had a 75 .7 for run blocking

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for him. So... pretty good as far as our metrics

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go because the next couple guys, if we talk about

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pass blocking, just pass blocking right now,

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Graham Glasgow was the second rated, second rated

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pass blocker on our line with a 77 .2. Number

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one rated pass blocker on our line was Christian

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Mahogany with an 81 .1. Taylor Decker, 76 .1.

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The entire left side of the line, did their job

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pass blocking. Granted, they didn't have to deal

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with Montez Sweat. Sweat rush is usually from

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the left side. Who had to deal with him? Well,

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Tate Ratledge had a 66 .8, and Panay Soul had

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a 66 .8 in the pass block. So those two guys

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had to deal with Sweat over there, and their

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grade was a little bit lower, but still very

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respectable. Above the 60 line, which is just

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doing your job. So they were getting up there.

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Run block. We still got some grades around run

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block that are disappointing. Graham Glasgow,

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overall, Graham Glasgow and Tate Ratledge brought

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up the bottom. Ratledge was a 56 .2, Glasgow

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a 56 .7. They were the bottom two offense grades

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for regulars. They had a 52 .7 and a 51 .6 run

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block for each of them. I think we've identified

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probably where our weakness resides right now

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in this offense is the middle of the O line and

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probably on that right side with those pass or

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those run block grades are not going to get you

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a whole lot. Okay. It worries me. I have to disagree

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with you on this because here's the deal. They

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rushed 30 times for 177 yards yesterday. That's

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a 5 .9 yard average and You have to take out

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three of those runs because they were Craig Reynolds

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and Garbage Time for four yards for an average

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of 1 .3. So you take that out, the 27 runs at

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173 yards puts you over six yards a carry. They

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did their job. Well, here's where my concern

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lies. If we play a team with a better interior

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D line, Those guys go right back down into the

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30s and 40s on run blocks and everything gets

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blown up The Bears have a really bad interior

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D line. They're just not that good So they did

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their job against a team that wasn't very good.

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Let's see what happens against the Ravens next

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week I'll be real curious to see what happens

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there. We'll talk about that in a little bit

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I'm gonna go through a couple more and then wrap

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this up outside of those Scores there that you

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get on the offense that the usual performers

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were all up there We gave you that on Chicago's

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offense. It was pretty bad. I mean they had a

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guy they had They had a really bad performance

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From Braxton Jones. He had a 46 overall. He's

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their left tackle Okay, he's awful. His pass

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block was a forty six point nine his run block

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was a fifty two point four That is not gonna

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win the day Right there. Okay. So we got a couple

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of question marks there. Can you go through the

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rest of their offensive line? Yeah. Yeah. Just

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the offensive line. We'll give you the rest of

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them here. Joe Thune, left guard, graded in at

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60 .8. Theo Benedict and Darnell Wright, both

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graded in at 64 .5 and 65 .8. Theo Benedict's

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a backup. Writes the guy I wanted to highlight.

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Okay. Did you see the play where he leg whipped

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Hutchinson? No into the bad leg. No, it was so

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bush league and It's all anybody can talk about

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today is like even bears fans are like he is

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the worst He got abused by hot shot a day and

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he tried to leg whip him which NFL guys don't

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go for that Like now it's competitive, but you

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don't try to win yet. That's not gonna win you

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the day You don't try to end another man's career

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So I'll talk about the other two. Your favorite

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Jonah Jackson, right guard, 68 .2 overall. So

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he's 80 .2 pass block and a 60 run block. He's

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good on a bad line, which that should tell you

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something. So maybe he's not as bad as we get.

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Maybe he's doing better or maybe he just had

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a good day against us. You never know. I mean,

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this is just one game, right? So that's basically

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the line right there. Braxton Jones bringing

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up the rear. And then next to that is probably

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Drew Dalman, the center, at a 58 .9. He did fine.

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He's like a 60 across the board. What are we

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going to get? Fans here are really harsh on him.

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It doesn't sound like maybe that's just. I think

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Braxton Jones was the problem today. He caught

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heat and he couldn't handle it. That's the bottom

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line. What was Tyreek Stevenson's grade? Tyreek.

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Let's look at Tyreek here. Because the Lions

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picked on him all day long. The key to the game

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is when the Bears shut down corner. So he was

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bad. So I was going to get to the defense here

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in a minute. Yeah. And the highlights for defense

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are all on the Bears side. So you had three guys

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that played pretty much most of the game. Tyreek

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Stevenson, Naishon Wright, and Kevin Byard. That's

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a strong safety in two corners. So Stevenson

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and Wright are the corners. Their overall grades.

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Stevenson was a 29 .8. Ishaan Wright was a 29

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.4. Oof. And Kevin Viard was a 26 .1. Oof. So

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those guys just got torched all day long and

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their coverage grades were the reason for it.

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37, 35, and 26. They were awful. Nick McLeod

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wasn't much better. He had a 41 .8 at the other

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corner and a 35 .4 for coverage. So they just

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don't cover the pass very well in that group.

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So they all got absolutely... Jalen Johnson was,

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is there better of the corners? He only played

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20 snaps. He had a 70 .9, he had a 71 .9 cover

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rate. And I still think in the, in the place

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he was in, he got beat every once in a while.

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So. He's out indefinitely too. He tore his groin.

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He had a groin injury going into it and he's

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out indefinitely. So a 71 or 70 point whatever,

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given how hurt he was, isn't probably that bad.

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And he is their best player, which is. not good

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for the Bears. Can I end the Bears really quick

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as we look forward to the Ravens? I'm going to

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summarize it like this, and I'm going to ask

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you the question, and this is the difference

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between these two franchises. They played at

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the same college one year apart. They play the

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same position. One was a second round pick. The

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other was an undrafted free agent. Who would

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you rather have, Cole Comet or Brock Wright?

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Because in my mind, they're the exact same player.

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They are the same player. Comet gets a little

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more play. from the Bears, just due to options.

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He seems to catch more balls, but a second round

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pick versus an undrafted for agent. I get where

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I get, I see where you're going. Brock Wright

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took, you know, when, when Colton was drafted

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by the Bears, Brock Wright took his job at Notre

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Dame. I just find the comparison just stunning

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when you think about the launch angle in where

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the two franchises are. So. Ryan Poles needs

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to go. He is not drafting Difference Makers.

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The Bears also had three second or third round

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picks that were healthy scratches. I mean, that's

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never happened for the Lions. Healthy scratches.

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I mean, Levi Onsorike was unhealthy a lot, but

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that's totally different. Support drafting. So

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I want to just shoot you a couple defensive grades

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for Detroit, then we can jump off. Yeah, please.

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Okay. Brian Ranch, 91 .4. Guy's a stud. Got the

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game ball we saw in the game video there. They

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need to lock him up to an extension Yeah, I'm

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gonna say that's probably true your buddy hutch

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improved. He was in an 80 80 .8 for his overall

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score and Grant Stewart in his six total plays

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got an 84 .6 I usually don't look at the guys

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that just get a couple of snaps, but he's thought

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that was kind of funny Do you know he's the special

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teams captain for the audience as well? Oh, yeah

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So Al -Qaeda Muhammad played 36 snaps and got

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a 76 .4 at that nose tackle position. I liked

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seeing that. That's some pressure up the gut.

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Actually, I think he is going to take somebody's

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job. Well, you know who I think? Well, Roy Lopez

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was our lowest rated regular defensive player

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at a 45 .8. He's doing very little with that

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defensive tackle position and probably why he

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was available in free agency, let's be honest.

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He's... He's a guy. He's a depth piece. My bigger

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surprise was Terrien Arnold. Came in at a 48

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.6. Terrien just doesn't seem to be picking up

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pass coverage very well. He actually scores higher

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in run defense and tackling. In coverage he's

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like a 46 .1. This is two weeks in a row now

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that he hasn't performed that well. And another

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guy that really isn't turning in great grades

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is Alexian Zaloni. 54 .7 and On run defense,

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he's a 40 .6. He's not good. He's not long for

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it, and it's not good. I think that's probably

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why we didn't give him the big deal that he was

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hoping for there. So let's jump off it. Everybody

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else did a good job. Yeah, the one thing I was

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going to say, medium or above. The thing to look

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forward to, Lions fans, Davenport got hurt. on

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three separate occasions. He didn't have an awful

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game, but I fully expect Mohammed to possibly

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push for his position at some point going forward.

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Last thing, let's talk about this week's opponent,

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Monday Night Football, which is awesome. It's

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just so fun having the Lions relevant in these.

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You know, they were the game of the week against

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the Packers, week one, and now they're on Monday

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Night Football. The bad news is they have to

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face Lamar Jackson and the Ravens. And since

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Lamar Jackson has become a starter for the Baltimore

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Ravens, he is 24 and 2 against the NFC. And that

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is all I have to say about this. Well, and he's

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gonna, he gives us fits. He gives the Lions absolute

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fits and if you go back and look at a couple

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of the games so far, he grades out as one of

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the highest players on their offense. He and

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Zay Flowers might be a problem for us on Monday

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night. Especially if Arnold can't step it up.

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Especially if Arnold can't step it up. So we'll

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have another pod for you all later this week

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to preview that in more depth, but that's just

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the overview and why I'm not feeling super strong

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about the Lions. I never feel good about the

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Ravens. I can always be is I don't know what

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it is, but we just it's just one of those teams.

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It's like them and the commanders. We struggle.

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I'm just happy it's on the neck of the woods.

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It's a road game, so it's not a. You know, it's

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a road loss, not a home loss. It is a road loss.

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It's a Monday night, which stinks because we're

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going to play some prime time TV. But let's see.

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Let's see. We'll pull it out. Let's see if our

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offense can be there. If I had to give a game

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ball, though, to coaching staff, it's got to

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be Johnny Morton. The offense was clicking all

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the way around and good for him to kind of, you

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know, shove it in Benedict's face. So he proved

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in a big game, he proved that he can beat a beatable

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defense. Yeah, he did. He crushed him. So that's

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great. All right, Lions fans, please listen to

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our sister pod, the Detroit Tigers litter box.

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And that is all we have for you until we give

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you the Ravens preview. Great win. Enjoy it.

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Celebrate. And we'll talk to you all soon.
