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This is the Litterbox, a Detroit Lions podcast

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with your hosts, Chad West and Bill Patterson.

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Lions Litterbox listeners, we've got a preview

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for you today. Lions Bears in Detroit at Ford

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Field. And I think Along with everyone who listens,

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I'm pretty sure we all know we need a little

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comeback here this week. We need a little bounce

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back to the norm. Lions are favored by six and

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a half. Forty six and a half is the over under.

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Six and a half is a large spread. I mean, the

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Lions are going to get that three points for

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being the home team. So the odds makers think

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they're at least a three and a half pointer on

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neutral field. We're at six and a half. Bill,

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you got any take on this? What are your thoughts?

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been listening to a lot of Chicago sports radio

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all week and after the Bears basically let the

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Vikings back in the game with a two -score lead

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on Monday night football and allowed the Vikings

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to really gouge and gash them from a running

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standpoint in the second half the Lions this

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week I think are gonna be able to run the ball

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so effectively against the Chicago Bears defense

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that it's gonna be It'd be a mismatch all the

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way around. You know, let's do a deeper dive

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into some of the injuries on this as well, you

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know, to support what I'm saying. Grady Jarrett

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was a free agent acquisition of the Bears and

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he's questionable with a bad knee. Kyler Gordon's

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probably the only difference maker that Ryan

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Poles, their GM is drafted. He's questionable

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with a hammy and then TJ Edwards, which is their

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stay at home Mike. linebacker, you know, that

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really kind of makes the defense click and has

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a bad hamstring. So those are the injuries on

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defense that I think are going to help the lions.

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So from a fantasy standpoint, I think Jamo's

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going to get a touchdown for sure this week.

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You are going to see a real big day for Sam Laporta.

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And if you have either David Montgomery or Jamir

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Gibbs Sonic and Knuckles stardom I think they're

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all gonna have huge days as far as the Bears

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go the only starter that I would say on offense

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from a fantasy standpoint would probably be that

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of Deandre Swift who got almost 70 % of the carries

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and on field time against the Vikings on Monday

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Night Football and I am thinking a Lions victory

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chat to the tune of 34 to 10 34 to 10. That's

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a okay. That's a big spread there. It's a three

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touchdowns on a field goal I'm not gonna go that

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big yet. I don't know that we got it all together

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quite yet There are a couple things that I look

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at when I look at this game one I think a Mon

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Ross st. Brown who has shredded the Bears over

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the past few meetings Should have a big game

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the Bears have as you mentioned some injuries

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all over their defense right now And one of those

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happens to be in their defensive backfield They

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may be down a cornerback or two, a D -back or

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two at this point. Jalen Johnson was a full participant

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in practice yesterday, and they said that he

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looked good today. I did check that before we

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got on. He's there. A lot can change between

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now and 12 p .m. Sunday, as we all know, but

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the latest that I'm hearing from the local media

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is that Jalen Johnson should play. Kyler Gordon

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would be the guy that would probably cover St.

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Brown and who has in the past. and who has been

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torched by him. He is injured. His backup Blackwell

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is also injured. Unless, and they're saying that

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we're looking at veteran Nick McLeod as being

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the guy who would probably end up covering St.

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Brown if those two are out. So I don't know if

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Johnson will be on his side of the field or not

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at this point. That said, That's too many men

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missing from their defensive backfield. Both

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those guys are out some pieces are gonna move

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around I still think st Brown's gonna have a

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huge game at home in game two of the season here

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the bigger question and one of the bigger problems

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one of the things we have to address here and

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it's been talked about all week is that interior

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offensive line that matchup against the Bears

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interior defensive line is gonna be the one to

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watch because If Glasgow, Mahogany and Ratledge

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cannot get push against these guys, we are going

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to have a very, very long season. And some of

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it in the last game wasn't just push. It was

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actually blocking assignments. I mean, there

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are video, if you watch any of the video for

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afterwards, some of the breakdowns of the missed

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blocking assignments by Glasgow in the second

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level where he's supposed to go out and grab

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a linebacker. Just open up a hole. He couldn't

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get there and he couldn't hold a block to save

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his life Rattledge and mahogany actually didn't

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do too terribly bad They didn't do great, but

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Glasgow was a major weakness in the middle and

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he's been called out left and right He needs

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to pick his game up if he is gonna play center

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for this team He had a terrible game in the playoffs

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last year. He's having a terrible season to start

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things off right now I am putting him under a

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microscope Graham Glasgow is my microscope player.

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The other two guys are young and can improve

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Grasket Glasgow's got to show me something here

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really fast or we are gonna be in deep trouble

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Center is far too important position to be bad

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at it Bears D line not that great and they have

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injuries on that D line too So we'll see what

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happens there with our best PFF score ended up

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getting hurt and the guy that filled in for him

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the two guys that filled in at tackle D tackle

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in that game We're both the two lowest scoring

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defensive players for the Bears. So it's a huge

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drop off from starter to to the sub there. So

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that'll be a huge matchup. And then, of course,

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it's just going to be Kelvin Shepherd against

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Ben Johnson. How's that going to line up? I think

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our offense is going to have its way to some

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degree or another. I don't think they're going

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to be prepared for our offense as long as we

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can block up front. We have another bad blocking

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game. This game is going to be a this game will

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be down to the wire. So how did you feel about

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Dan Campbell's press conference where he said

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that very calmly and very succinctly that so

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much of this is correctable and so much of it

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was lack of communication? I liked how he took

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accountability for it, especially saying that

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Mahogany and Ratlidge should have played a lot

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more in the preseason. But we talked about that

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last episode. What I want to know is how did

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you come out of his presser feeling better and

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more optimistic? Did you feel neutral in the

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same or did you feel worse? I felt neutral and

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here's the deal. I feel badly about this offense

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right now because they're like I said One of

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the strongest the glue of that offensive line.

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The center is the weakness. That's horrible You

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can't have that every offensive line every successful

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quarterback had a good center Think of it all

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the way on down the line I think back to like,

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you know Peyton Manning in his days when he ran

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that clinical offense for the Colts Saturday

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was his center. The guy was a beast. Everybody

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else on the line could be kind of here, there,

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missing a few things, but Jeff Saturday was the

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guy that made that thing work, because he assigns

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the blocking. He's the one making the calls at

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the line. If they're wrong, everything falls

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apart. If he misses his block, if he doesn't

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take care of his assignment, Everything falls

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apart. So it's kind of something we had had to

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worry about We've had this stud named rag now

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for so long and now we don't and now we're gonna

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have to figure this out and every time We've

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seen Glasgow take this role. It's been a disaster

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and I don't see it changing I see us struggling

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a little bit, but I do see the Bears just aren't

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that good their defense Just isn't that good,

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but you know what I thought that about the Packers

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So we'll see what happens. Maybe our O line is

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that bad. You don't think Hank Freely probably

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the top assistant remaining on Dan Campbell's

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staff. Do you believe he can get this fixed?

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I don't think he can because I don't think it's

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about scheme. I think it's about execution. If

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Graham Glasgow cannot execute as the center,

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it doesn't matter what Fraley calls. Now, if

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they make a decision to put Ratledge in that

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position or Iguacun comes up and plays that position,

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that's what they can do. Outside of that, I don't

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think this has anything to do with a scheme at

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all. I don't think there's anything to do with

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that. Of course, I agree with Campbell in the

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sense that they didn't play these guys enough

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in the preseason. I ranted about that in our

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first episode and the preseason episodes. But,

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you know, how much would you have learned and

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what would you have done? There weren't many

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centers on the market. You could have tried other

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guys out, but they're all backups. And they're

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backups for a reason. And if they're backups

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and they shouldn't be and they should be starting

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instead of Glasgow and you put Glasgow in there

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because he's a veteran or because he's getting

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paid, well, then shame on you. That's that should

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not happen. They need to put the best guy in

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there right now because this season will go up

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in flames. If this continues, offensive line

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is extremely important to this. The production

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of this team rant over. Let's talk about the

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Lions defense and special teams. The defense,

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I think, is going to have a good game. in a much

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improved game because I think they will get home

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on Caleb Williams and force him to either hold

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the ball too long or throw off his back foot.

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And I also think that yards will be given up

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to Deandre Swift and others running the ball.

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But one of the things that surprised me about

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Monday night with the Bears offense was just

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the sheer amount of weapons they have and the

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fact that they drafted Luther Burden the third.

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out of Missouri in the second round and barely

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found him touches. And they drafted Roma Douzay

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in the first round, not this year, but the previous

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year season, and they struggled to get him involved

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in the offense. So it's almost as if the Bears

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have an embarrassment of riches and don't have

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possibly the right signal caller and Caleb Williams

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to be able to. get all these weapons utilized

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as best as possible. I fully expect the Lions

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D -line to play better this week. My only concern

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on the defense is that Jack Campbell's ankle

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is bothering him and he's questionable, but he

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has been a full participant. Hopefully that's

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something they can tape and maybe give him a

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shot and get him out there because he is a difference

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maker for us. That is what I see. happening in

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this game. I think the defense is going to pressure

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Caleb Williams. I think they're going to force

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mistakes. I think it's going to frustrate the

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Bears. And I know I didn't expect a lot of scoring

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and that's just 10 points. I think Benedict's

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going to get frustrated with Caleb as well. I

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think Caleb can't hit the broad side of a barn

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with a pass first and foremost. Not a thinker.

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Guy steps out of bounds and loses four yards

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for his team while he's rolling out to the right.

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These are things that he, you know, this is the

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book on him. And I don't think I don't see him

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improving against our defense. I think our defense

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is going to be better than Minnesota's defense.

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OK, so I'm agreeing with you a lot on this. I

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think they're going to fluster him. I think they're

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going to drive him crazy. They also don't have

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Josh Jacobs. Stepping up to fill the holes from

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the running back position in the blocking Josh

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Jacobs caused nightmares for our defensive pass

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rush in the last game If you watch any of that

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video that guy picked everything up. He is valuable

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running back for the Packers I did not see that

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coming. That was incredible. The Raiders really

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should have reset because 100 % he did the same

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thing when he was at Alabama and The Packers

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because Matt LaFleur is a great coach utilizes

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him to the best of the ability. Jordan Mason

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and Adam Jones carved up this Bears defense.

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Adam Jones is a good running back. Jordan Mason

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is a good running back. I would say they're repay

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replacement level, maybe slightly above that.

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They are not Jameer Gibbs and they are not David

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Montgomery. And I don't see, I don't see a Bears

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line. that is on par with what we saw with the

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Packers the other day either. And they didn't

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score well. They scored very similar to ours.

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And by the way, I'll throw this little nugget

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in there. This will make you glow with happiness.

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Jonah Jackson was between both teams, between

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the Chicago Bears and the Detroit Lions, was

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the lowest scoring defensive player. On both

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teams 66 snaps the guy had a 31 overall PFF rating.

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He was the lowest scoring player He was terrible

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his pass block rating was a 22 .6 His run block

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was a 44 .8. That might be the worst in the league.

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He was a disaster. There's no way that Braxton

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Jones and Theo Benedict are going to be able

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to hold them hold off our pass rush. They're

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going to need a lot of help. And Swift is a decent

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pass blocker. Don't get me wrong. He's OK. He's

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pretty good with it. He's not enough. He's no

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Josh Jacobs and he's not enough. And by the way,

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Caleb Williams is no Jordan Love either. So Caleb

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Williams. I have this strange feeling our defensive

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backfield might actually have a field day this

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week. Excellent. I like all your points. One

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last Chicago point. The media here was very harsh

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on Jonah Jackson and rightfully so. The other

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guy was their center, Drew Dahlman, who, if you

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look up his PFF grades, he played an awful game

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against the Vikings as well. Not Jonah Jackson

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bad, but Jonah Jackson hasn't played a good game

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when he's not playing next to a guy named...

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Yeah, sure. This is where PFF may not tell the

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whole story I mean drew dolman's grades were

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like a 60 across the board So he wasn't terrible

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his overall grade was a 60. He was average Pff's

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not the end -all be all right We use it a lot,

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but so we have to evaluate but it's it's not

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everything the other thing to keep an eye on

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in this game I'm gonna say is You know the home

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field advantage first game back at Ford Field

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This crowd's going to be behind the team after

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what happened with Green Bay. And if things go

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south, though, Bill, I mean, there are crazy

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people out there making all sorts of like fire

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Dan Campbell. The staff has lost it. Blah, blah,

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blah. What a ridiculous bunch of malarkey. I

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will be curious to see if they struggle with

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the Bears at home. This is going to be a long

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season. This is a little bit of a little bit

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of a temp check here. It's the old lions. A get

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-right game, as they like to call it. A get -right

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game is what it should be. All right. So let's

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get your... Not a get -wrong game. Let's get

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your prediction and let's get out of here. Yeah.

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So I'm going to go 21 -10 lions. And I think

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they're going to start a little slow. But I think

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they're going to pull it out by 11. I think it's

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going to go way under. I just don't see that

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much offensive maneuvering. Juice. All right.

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Go Lions. Honolulu Bloomsilver. Let's get them.

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One and one is in our future.
