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This is the Litterbox, a Detroit Lions podcast

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with your hosts, Chet West and Bill Patterson.

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Litterbox Lions listeners. It's your hosts, Billy

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P and Chet. And we are licking our wounds this

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Monday after the Lions went to Lambeau field

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and. didn't play very well. And it's not even

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the loss. It was just the fact that the Lions

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really did a lot of things that were self -inflicted

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to prevent themselves from winning. So I have

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a few thoughts that I'm going to kick this off

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with. Chet's going to share with us the pro football

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focus grades and his thoughts as well. Thought

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number one is I know in Dan Campbell we trust,

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but he's got to play these guys, especially the

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offensive line in the preseason. It's ridiculous

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to have two a second year player in mahogany.

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And a true rookie in ratledge and a aging veteran

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in Glasgow that weren't playing together in competitive

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football really up until this point. And I know

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the new mantra in the NFL is that these joint

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practices are what you, the preseason used to

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be and what blocking and tackling used to be.

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Two thoughts. One, the most of what they did

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was against the Miami Dolphins who You're gonna

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hear it here. You're gonna hear it everywhere

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Mike McDaniel's probably the first coach gone

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this year in terms of being removed from his

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head coaching position the Dolphins look lifeless

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and If they behaved which we heard they performed

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and behaved that way when they were at Allen

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Park Scrimmaging against the Lions. I don't know

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that anything was really accomplished chat. That's

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my first take. What are your thoughts? So again,

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I hate the preseason because it's so hard to

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get a read but the Lions preseason is even less

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valuable to me as somebody who's doing any sort

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of evaluation of these players because we don't

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see anybody we see a bunch of guys that are gonna

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become Special teamers maybe maybe third and

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fourth string guys we got nothing out of that

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preseason other than Isaac Tesla has skills which

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he had on display in this game for one play.

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But outside of that, I know nothing about what

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we've got on the offensive line based on preseason.

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Other than some hearsay and some hype and practice

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from local press or some video footage of a inner

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squad practice with another team. Otherwise,

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we just don't get that much game speed information,

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which is what you're getting in those preseason

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games if your starters play. So I don't know

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that I want them getting hurt. Okay, but I wouldn't

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mind seeing them for a couple series at game

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speed so that some sort of tape could be put

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together and analyzed. But still, who knows who

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they'd be going up against. They certainly wouldn't

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be going up against the vaunted Packer line that

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they went up against this past week, which surprised

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the daylights out of me. And I'm going to stand

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by this. Micah Parsons was good. Don't get me

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wrong. He wasn't that good, though. He was good,

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but the rest of that line was good which shocked

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me I did not think they had that much talent

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on that Green Bay defense I agree a hundred percent

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with everything you're saying again. I don't

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know that the answer lies in preseason But the

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Lions clearly didn't look like the team that

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was a little warm straight. You want a little

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warm -up? We can all admit after a 27 to 13 loss

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that felt a lot more lopsided than that because

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Coleslaw's touchdown came, I don't want to say

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garbage time, but I mean the game was well out

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of hand. With that, the Lions had ample opportunities.

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Yes, the offensive line couldn't get the push

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that they had previously gotten. One of the things

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that I read leading up to the game that I know

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you and I talked about as well was the Lions

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were somewhat doing cartwheels or somersaults

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over the fact that Kenny Clark was not no longer

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in the division. That didn't matter. Being part

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of the trade for Micah Parsons. And what the

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Lions I don't think accounted for was the fact

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that there's still a lot of talent on that Green

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Bay defense and a lot of talent on that defensive

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line. Rashon Gary played an excellent game. If

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I had to give a game ball to a Packer, he would

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be one of them that I would give one to. And

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the other gentleman was Lucas Van Ness, formerly

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an Iowa Hawkeye. First round pick that the Packers

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had gotten pretty frustrated with, but both of

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those gentlemen schooled the entire offensive

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line. So I don't know what the issue is. I don't

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know if it was lack of reps. Let's flip to the

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defensive side because the defensive line wasn't

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whole lot better. They did stop Jacobs in the

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running game for most of the first half and a

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good portion of the third quarter, but Jordan

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Love wasn't pressured at all in this game and

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Aiden Hutchinson looked every bit as rusty as

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someone that broke their leg last year against

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the Cowboys and hadn't really been playing at

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game speed. We all trust Brad Holmes, but he

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kept telling us is Lions fans that everything

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they needed was internal, that they had the pass

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rush they needed, that they had the personnel

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they needed. I'm still waiting to spot Marcus

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Davenport because I didn't see a darn thing out

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of him yesterday. The other part of this is third

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downs. The Lions actually did a decent job after

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the first four first downs. or excuse me, third

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downs that were all completions for the Packers

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on third in varying lengths, but most of them

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long. Those were the only four that the Packers

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got, but the damage was done at that point. So

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that would be my take. Number two is that I don't

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think the defensive line did what they needed

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to do generating a pass rush. And then when they

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started to make a little bit more pressure, they

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were gouged for the run. Your thoughts. So here's

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something interesting. I'm going to go, I'm going

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to give you a couple things here. We're going

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to talk about some PFF grades here in a little

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bit and kind of go through the grades that this

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team was given. The Lions did not generate the

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eyeball test. Grades aside, we had nothing coming

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up the middle, nothing up the gut from a pass

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rush standpoint. And by the way, just to pick

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on somebody a little bit, Alex Anzaloni, make

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that pick. Make that interception. The ball's

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in your hands. You got two hands on the ball.

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I know you're a linebacker, but you're also supposed

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to be good in that pass coverage, and you were

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there. It was a terrible pass by Love. You could

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have made him pay right there and flip that game.

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We needed a play by the defense. Didn't get it.

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They just didn't make a play. They did really

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well against the rush, in my opinion. They actually

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did. It was the passing game. They got shredded.

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And that shocked me. In Anzaloni, that was one

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mistake. The other was Rak Yassin's holding penalty

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that negated Brian Branch's beautiful pick six.

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And that would have been, you know, very much

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a difference in the game. So my third take and

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point. Do the Lions not have anybody on this

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staff that understands the kickoff rules 2025?

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Because they were penalized in every preseason

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game, and they were penalized twice yesterday

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on this. I am... I'm not gonna lie to you. I

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hate the new kickoff rules. I think all this

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kickoff stuff is all just... It drives me crazy.

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Every time I see them line up, I'm like, I don't

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even get what they're trying to do right now.

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And I don't want to rehash what the rules are.

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I kind of get it. This whole kickoff thing drives

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me crazy. Just kick the damn ball off. Let them

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return the ball. That's all there is to it. They

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want to down it under down it. OK, that's you're

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taking this in a different direction. I agree

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with you on that. Those aren't the rules that

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the NFL is instituted in 2025. We're wondering

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why these guys can't figure it out. It's their

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job to figure it out. Yeah, I mean, so that's

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another one that falls back on the coaching staff

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and the personnel assembled. That was my third

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and then the fourth point you touched on already.

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Fair. It's a fair concern. Which was just the

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opportunities were there for the Lions to be

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in this game They're driving towards the end

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of the first half and golf throws an interception

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in the in the red zone He was pressured heavily

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on that that was points that really would have

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helped at that point in the game if the Lions

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go in 17 10 at the half I imagine and getting

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the ball back to start the second half. We're

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probably seeing a entirely different playbook

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opened up with that though The running lanes

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weren't there and Jared Goff is at his worst

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when he's not Operating under play action and

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the Lions couldn't get the run going and if they

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can't get this fixed this week It's gonna be

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a long Sunday at Ford Field against the Bears

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as well I mean what NFL team is not gonna copy

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what the Packers did to the Lions on this if

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they can if they can yeah Yeah, if they can.

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I mean, that's a great point, but it's up to

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the Lions now and Hank Fraley and the offensive

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line. Coaches and Dan Campbell and Johnny Morton

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to figure this out because there were some good

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plays there. The slant was working both to Laporta

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and to Saint Brown. J Mo, I could have predicted

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this. Second, he signed his extension. He's going

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to be non -existent until he gets in trouble

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with the law or the NFL again, but will remain.

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I am so dubious on him that it is. I agree with

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you. I agree with you. I sat there the whole

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game just waiting from the costless 15 yards.

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I think he's got all the ability in the world,

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but I do question. I do question signing him

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to a long term deal. So you want to go through

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some grades here? I kind of want to shock you

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a little bit, but go on. Yeah. And you got more

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to get off. Let's do it. Yeah. Last point. Yeah.

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Did you get up off your couch just like I did

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when Brian Branch ripped the helmet off of Kraft,

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the tight end? I just expect better from our

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best players. And I'm starting to wonder if some

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of the people that we thought were going to get

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a lot of the money going forward, Jema was one,

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you know, Hutch is another, Branch was one, Laporte

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is one. Maybe the Lions are going to take a page

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out of the Cowboys book and spread more money

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on the offense and... to build the defense through

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the draft because the NFL's a scoring league

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and you can't score 13 points and win many games.

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You know, Ryan Ranch's move with the helmet,

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he's done stuff like that in the past, okay?

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And JMO has talked, you know, nonsense in the

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past and gotten 15 yard penalties and now they're

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gonna start cracking down on the taunting stuff

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more. You saw that happen in that game. Green

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Bay lost a 15 yarder because somebody basically

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rubbed his crotch and... Was it Kaleef Raymond's

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face? Yeah, it was Raymond's. Stood right over

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him and started taunting him. So yeah, we're

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going to see a little more of that. I think it's

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going to penalize us if we can't keep ourselves.

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And they said during the game, Romo, I believe

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it was, said during the game that Dan Campbell

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has told his players, like, watch it out there.

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We got to pull back on this, on the taunting

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and the talk. I don't know if that affects him.

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It takes him out of there, whatever. They got

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to be careful with it, and they got to become

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a little more disciplined, and he can't rip a

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guy's helmet off and chuck it across the field

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and not expect to get a flag for that. It was

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a move of frustration on Branch's part, and he

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has done that before in the past. It's still

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not a good look and it's not a good move. It's

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not a good move. On the Romo and Nance. It's

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not spitting on a player, but it's not, it's

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not good. Romo and Nance were brutal yesterday.

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You didn't like them. I always like them. No.

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I think they're great. He needs to hang it up

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and Tony Romo, oh my god, when they were talking

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about Curly Lambeau for five minutes. I know,

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but you're at Green Day. You're gonna get that.

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I mean, you're gonna have that at Green Day.

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Give the information on the Lions, you know,

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locked down corner who may or may not be injured

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at this point. You know, that's what, you know,

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send Tracy Wolfson or whomever the sideline reporter

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is over there to find something out. So, again,

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I get your frustration, but I kind of like the

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show they put on. I don't. All right, PFF, let's

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do it. I'm gonna give you some grades. These

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are crazy. No, look, these are PFF grades, okay?

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It's not a perfect system, but it's what we got

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to evaluate players more in depth. 60 grade is

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basically like the guy's doing his job. That's

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average Okay, a 60 grade is average anything

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below that you start drifting down into below

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average when you get to 40 That's really poor.

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That's very poor. Okay, you get up into the 80s.

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That's good That's really good guy had a great

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game in the 80s For reference just for our listeners

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Panay Sewell was an all -pro for the second straight

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year last year. He typically was grading somewhere

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in the low 80s to high 80s most games last season.

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So I can tell you, last season Panay Sewell's

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overall offensive grade was 89 .6. His run block

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was a 91 .5, his pass block a 75 .4. So those

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are all... Above average obviously 75 lead lowest

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he's got. Okay of all his grades now. Let me

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tell you what he did in this game He was the

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highest graded offensive player we had in this

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game. He had an overall of a 70 .8 His pass block

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was a 69 .7, his run block was a 68 .4. Across

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the board, the highest graded player we had,

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the only guy that's in green, which is good.

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So he did above average and everything, but he

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did not live up to his normal standards by far,

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okay? He's 10 to 20 clicks off on almost everything

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there. So guess what? You're making me feel better

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already. I love analytics when it can support

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something. but he was our best offensive player

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and he had to go up against Parsons the whole

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freaking game when Parsons was in and he gave

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Parsons hell and Parsons gave him hell it was

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a good battle the rest of the team came to play

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it might have been a good battle all the way

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around for both teams all right can you go down

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the rest of the o -line please yeah so you want

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to do o -line first let's do that so he was at

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70 .8 overall we take a massive drop down massive

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drop down remember 60 is the average level next

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Highest rated offensive lineman, Tate Ratledge

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at 57 .5 overall. Tate Ratledge's 57 .5 is bolstered

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by his 64 .1 run block score. Okay? His pass

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blocking was a 39 .2. That's your right guard.

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That's problematic. Okay? That's problematic.

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Let's cut him some slack because it is his first

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start. First game is a rookie. And you know what?

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He was our second highest rated offensive lineman.

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So I do want to comment on this quickly. Yep.

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It seems that whoever plays next to Sewell always

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gets a bump, especially in run blocking as well.

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Because when we talked about a couple episodes

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ago, Jonah Jackson got filthy rich from the Los

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Angeles Rams just by virtue of playing next to

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Sewell. The good news is, we get to play Jonah

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Jackson. And we get to play them. Next. Next.

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No, no, no. He's a bear now. That's why. That's

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right. He's a bear. So who will be next on the

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list? So I'll go down this list, but that gives

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you a very good idea of where the weaknesses

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show in this game and why we really lost. The

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next highest rated offensive lineman was Taylor

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Decker at 55 .2. Yikes. Taylor Decker's 55 .2

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was bolstered. by his 73 .5 pass block. What

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do you think his run block look like? 36 .6.

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That is horrible. That's horrible. Now, again,

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these guys, a lot of these guys, their success

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is predicated by the guy standing next to him

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on that line. Okay? If the guy next to you on

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the line isn't doing his job, it's going to make

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you worse because you're going to have to try

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to cover for him. You know, you got to... Keeping

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an eye on all the gaps, things get tough. So

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Decker had a 73 .5 pass block, a 36 .6 run block,

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55 .2 overall. That is horrible, okay? Decker's

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overall, overall in 2024 was a 77 .2. His pass

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block was a 78, so he was pretty much in line,

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but his run block was a 70 .3. So he was way

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under. Something has gone wrong there, okay?

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Christian mahogany is next up with a 54 .4 overall

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Christian mahogany did nothing. Well in this

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game his pass block was a 43 .9 and his run block

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was a 58 .1 At least equal opportunity bad. He

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was he's just a backup at this point We have

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a starter a left guard who's a backup score wise

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and and by the way like that Hold on. It was

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his third career start. It was in a little harsh

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career start. It was his third career start.

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But you know, last year, mahogany was much better

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in his. He only had about 144 snaps last year.

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OK, so that's only about two games where the

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work may be a little more. OK, he had a 91 .5

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overall rating in those in those 144 snaps, but

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he was a backup last year. Okay, he didn't start.

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78 .7 pass block and a 91 .1 run block. So he

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wasn't even in the ball yard there. But he was

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playing next to Frank Reag now. There you go.

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I'm getting there. I'm getting there because

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guess who's next on the list and last. Drum roll.

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Do you have a drum roll for me? No, just give

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it to us. Your starting center for the Detroit

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Lions, Graham Glasgow, had a 43 .6 overall rating.

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Here's the funny part. His pass block rating

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was a 71 .9, I don't know how. His run block

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was a 34 .4, the lowest on the team, lower than

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Decker, lower than Ratledge, lower than Mahogany.

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That is, that is a horrifying run block stat.

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And if you can't, now take a look at this now.

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Who, you know, Decker, In Glasgow, did a terrible

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job in run blocking. Mahogany did not do a good

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job at all at 58 .1, but he was almost average.

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And Ratledge was 64 .1. He was a little above

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average, and Penesul was 68 .4. Not a single

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guy cracked 70 in run blocking on that whole

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offensive line. I think there is a two -fold

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issue here. Keep something in mind. Glasgow was

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a 57 .2 overall offensive lineman last year.

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This is another guy that... probably shouldn't

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be starting at offensive line anymore. He used

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to be a lot better earlier in his career. He

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went off to Denver, he came back, he had one

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good season in 2023 with us. Like last year,

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he fell off a cliff, dropped 20 points across

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the board, okay? He's never been a great pass

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blocker. Well, I shouldn't say that. He hasn't

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been a good pass blocker in about three or four

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years, based on his, based on these grades. Graham

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Glasgow, I don't think he's a natural center

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either. I think he was a guard for a really long

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time when he was turning in all these stats.

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I think center is just not his spot. That's my

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thought. I think a lot of what goes on in an

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offensive line, you're the quarterback of the

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O -line when you're center. I wonder how much

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of this confusion and how much crazy had to do

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with him and his communication and his breakdown.

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I worry a lot and I worried about it last season

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when he played center for Ragnow. It wasn't a

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pretty situation. So... We got a big problem

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there. Our interior O line is not good and it

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is three guys who should not be starting at this

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point at their positions. I'm willing to give

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Ratledge a flyer because he's a rookie and I

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think he will get a little better and he's over

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there playing next to Sewell. We can handle that.

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It's mahogany. It's Glasgow. We cannot handle

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that hole there with a rookie at the right side.

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Likewise, that is real tough. Jared Goff will

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throw off his back foot all day long. His his

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his stats were no good. His grades were terrible.

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He got a 45 .5 overall grade I don't know how

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you give the grade like that to the guy when

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he's throwing off his back foot all day He didn't

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evade the rush and he doesn't that's not his

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deal. But when you're a really bad interior O

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line and you got a quarterback who's not mobile

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and can't flush out and run, you're going to

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run into all sorts of issues. He's always had

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a decent to good, to really good interior line

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to work with. This is going to be a major hurdle

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for this team this season, and they're going

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to have to scheme around it or fix it in one

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way or the other. I don't know. I'm not sure

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how you do that at this point. I feel like they

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left a gap there, personnel -wise. I think it's

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Kingsley time. You think it is. You want to see

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Kingsley out there? I firmly believe in this.

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You need a center to play center. You hire a

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doctor to treat your ailments. Or you go to the

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doctor, excuse me. You hire a certified accountant

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to do your taxes. You hire an attorney if you

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need legal representation. Why are you trying

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to move a guard that struggled moving from the

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left to right side, or the right, excuse me,

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where he played next to Sewell to the left side.

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And then asking him to play center, which he

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has done historically, but he's not, it's not

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like he was a center at Michigan. It's only been

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in the NFL and you're taking a fish and putting

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them out of water and expecting them to, you

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know, run a marathon. It just, it doesn't make

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any sense to me. Point if we can't trans that's

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valid. Yeah, you want to go to the defense? Yeah,

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I'd like to focus on the defensive line and the

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secondary if you would because there's one player

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in particular that I really have a lot of questions

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on Okay. Okay. So defensive line. Let's go through

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this first Okay, I'm gonna do this fairly quickly

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the defense graded out much better Brian branch

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was our highest graded PFF score for the entire

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game at an 85 .1 of anyone who played more than

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10 snaps, okay? He graded out at an 85 .1. He

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had a 91 .3 cover rating, which is pretty darn

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good in the passing game. It's almost an 80 on

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tackle, 56 .8 on pass rush, which nobody graded

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great for pass rush. There was only one guy on

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this whole entire team that got above 70 on pass

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rush. Guess who it was? Fun guy, Aiden Hutchinson.

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71 .3 he now now put this in context Aiden Hutchinson

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His normal PFF grade when he was healthy last

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season and prior to was in the nice overall and

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with pass rush So he's way below 20 beats below

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his norm. It's gonna take him a bit probably

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If if we see the old hutch again what you're

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telling me is encouraging because of this unless

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it's a complete and total regression Across the

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board which seems unlikely for all of these players.

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That's that's encouraging Not terrible yesterday

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I will tell you who was in a minute though because

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I know you're wondering about this Kirby Joseph

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just give me the score, please I'm gonna give

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you Kirby Joseph and I'm gonna tell you he was

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one of our highest rated defenders Okay, 67 .5

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67 .5 not our highest but he was in the top half

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Tackling 72 .6 coverage 64 .2 Rush defense 64

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.8 all above average scores. Okay, nothing. We're

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not calling them all pro but Nothing terrible.

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He was not terrible. I will tell you who sticks

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out to me. We'll just jump to this. Okay The

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worst coverage score on this team was our brand

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new cornerback, DJ Reed, who spent the entire

00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:51.880
day getting burned. I can't think of a single,

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I mean, every receiver he had on him got past

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him. He had a 30 .5 coverage score, 30 .5. That

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is horrifying. I mean, we might've been able

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to put a D lineman on some of these wide receivers

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and got a higher score than that. Secondarily,

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Another another score that sticks out to me here.

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So he was the lowest graded regular on our entire

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defense DJ read an overall of a 38 For his PFF

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score for the game. That's that's a that's tragic

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Second lowest was Ty leak Williams His pass rush

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score was a 57 .7, which was kind of indicative

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of the whole line. Most of them were around that

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55, 56, 57. Nobody did anything outstanding until

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you get to like Barnes and Hutch where pass rush

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was concerned. Barnes had a 68 .3, Hutch had

00:25:42.859 --> 00:25:46.299
a 71 .3. Another guy that stuck out to me as

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somebody who was quite disappointing was DJ Reader.

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DJ Reader had a 50 .8 total score. Our interior

00:25:54.859 --> 00:25:59.799
D line did Nothing, our interior D lines 50 .8

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and 48 .7 from Tyleek Williams. That is not good.

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I don't think the Packers O line is that good.

00:26:08.099 --> 00:26:10.259
I mean, I don't know what these guys were doing,

00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:12.720
but they will not, they didn't do well on the

00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:15.200
Rush D and they didn't do great on Pass Rush.

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So that's your D line right there. Davenport

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was a 55 .1. He was below 62. He was below 60,

00:26:21.859 --> 00:26:23.819
so was Pat O 'Connor. He didn't get in there,

00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:28.039
but 14 snaps. Roy Lopez, 17 snaps, 57 .6. Our

00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:30.220
D -line, we lost this game in the trenches across

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the board. Offense and defense. That's about

00:26:33.660 --> 00:26:36.180
the best way to sum that up. Which was interesting

00:26:36.180 --> 00:26:38.019
in our preview. We said that would be the keys

00:26:38.019 --> 00:26:40.220
to winning the game. I thought that we would

00:26:40.220 --> 00:26:43.240
do much better. And I would be looking for, you

00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:45.599
can't run an offense and you can't really judge

00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:49.180
Morton for his offense. If you can't block up

00:26:49.180 --> 00:26:52.930
the middle. for a quarterback whose success is

00:26:52.930 --> 00:26:55.289
predicated on play action. If you can't run the

00:26:55.289 --> 00:26:57.490
ball up the middle and they don't have to bring

00:26:57.490 --> 00:26:59.869
anybody up into the box to stop the run game,

00:27:00.349 --> 00:27:02.509
if your offense doesn't give push for the run

00:27:02.509 --> 00:27:05.769
game, they'll beat you straight up. They don't

00:27:05.769 --> 00:27:07.609
have to bring anybody up and the play action

00:27:07.609 --> 00:27:09.250
will never work because they're dropped back.

00:27:09.690 --> 00:27:13.630
There's no way that you can win a game when your

00:27:13.630 --> 00:27:17.059
O line can't beat the D line straight up. can't

00:27:17.059 --> 00:27:18.779
push him straight up. That's just not going to

00:27:18.779 --> 00:27:20.880
happen. And we don't have an athletic quarterback

00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:23.220
that'll run out of the pocket and get flushed.

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And even if we did, I don't know how much of

00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:28.440
a difference it might make. But our defense...

00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:30.279
Yesterday, it wouldn't have made any difference

00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:32.099
because... I don't think it would have. How many

00:27:32.099 --> 00:27:34.359
times was he throwing to Gibbs as a check down?

00:27:34.460 --> 00:27:36.299
How many times was he throwing to Laporte as

00:27:36.299 --> 00:27:39.940
a check down? 100%. He couldn't even get to his

00:27:39.940 --> 00:27:43.259
hot read. Couldn't get to the reads. Yeah, because

00:27:43.259 --> 00:27:46.019
he had so little time in the pocket was collapsing

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and he's always been a clean pocket quarterback

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Predicated on play action as you've already I

00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:54.079
don't know if it was Romo. I don't know if it

00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:57.200
was Romo or Nance One of them was like every

00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:59.960
single play It's like Jared Goff is throwing

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off his back foot and he's got people leaning

00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:04.160
into him It was like he had two seconds to throw

00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:06.380
the ball on every play and that was yeah Yeah,

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and I will say our rush defense They did a good

00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:14.339
job. Jack Campbell, his Rush D score was 87 .6.

00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:18.400
Tarrion Arnold 78 .4. Alex Anzaloni 70. Our Rush

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D was not the problem in this game. We held Josh

00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:24.460
Jacobs to almost nothing. So be proud of that.

00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:26.700
Our defense kept us in this game. They could

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have made a few more plays, but... They didn't.

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So as we wrap here, I had a question for you.

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Of the two new coordinators, I think we're both

00:28:35.299 --> 00:28:37.799
giving Johnny Morton a pass because the old line

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was so bad and it probably ate away or limited

00:28:42.500 --> 00:28:46.819
his play calling by 80%, 70 % of what he wanted

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to do. So here's my thing on Kelvin Shepherd.

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Why didn't he use any of the exotic blitz schemes

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that the Lions were using late in the season?

00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:58.539
Vikings game, last game of the year. You know,

00:28:58.539 --> 00:29:02.140
he finally has healthy bodies and at one point,

00:29:02.380 --> 00:29:05.240
Chet, there was a sequence of two plays where

00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:09.880
Davenport and Hutch were dropping into coverage.

00:29:10.700 --> 00:29:14.140
Coverage. Yeah. That's what I don't mean that

00:29:14.140 --> 00:29:17.440
is exotic. What I mean is exotic is bring Barnes,

00:29:17.819 --> 00:29:21.880
bring Anzaloni, you know, do some stunts. I just...

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Well, the stunts got us. I mean, Ratledge was

00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:27.859
tricked by the stunt. Multiple times. Multiple

00:29:27.859 --> 00:29:30.640
times. And he's still graded better than the

00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.960
guy playing to his left. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess

00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:38.319
the good news is we kind of wrap. We will deliver

00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:41.000
a Bears preview for you all. I'm taking these

00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:45.129
PFF grades is a sign that there's a lot. better

00:29:45.129 --> 00:29:48.210
performances to come. And, you know, if not for

00:29:48.210 --> 00:29:51.289
some misfortune, the Lions could have kept this

00:29:51.289 --> 00:29:54.269
game a lot closer. It didn't feel that way because

00:29:54.269 --> 00:29:57.950
at every turn, red zone penalties, they just

00:29:57.950 --> 00:30:00.309
shot themselves in the foot. But I think there's

00:30:00.309 --> 00:30:02.829
reason for optimism coming back to Ford Field

00:30:02.829 --> 00:30:05.009
to play the Bears next. Do you feel the same

00:30:05.009 --> 00:30:07.549
way, Chad? I have some optimism, and I'm gonna

00:30:07.549 --> 00:30:09.490
be watching tonight's Monday Night Game very

00:30:09.490 --> 00:30:12.029
closely. This Vikings -Bears game I'm gonna watch

00:30:12.029 --> 00:30:14.650
with with painted breath. I do want to leave

00:30:14.650 --> 00:30:18.009
you with one thought. I picture you with a clipboard,

00:30:18.470 --> 00:30:20.829
two number two pencils, taking notes, very sharp,

00:30:21.309 --> 00:30:24.829
and a legal pad just and a cheap pizza on my

00:30:24.829 --> 00:30:27.589
lap, harkening back to our Tigers broadcast from

00:30:27.589 --> 00:30:29.809
earlier. I want to leave you with this. This

00:30:29.809 --> 00:30:32.569
will drive you crazy. The Tennessee Titans didn't

00:30:32.569 --> 00:30:35.470
have a great game, okay? But our old friend Kevin

00:30:35.470 --> 00:30:38.309
Zeitler? Do you want to know what his PFF grade

00:30:38.309 --> 00:30:41.720
was? Ooh, it was above he would have been number

00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:45.740
two on our offensive line behind soul He was

00:30:45.740 --> 00:30:48.720
just behind soul sixty six point eight. So above

00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:51.380
average sixty seven point one pass block sixty

00:30:51.380 --> 00:30:54.220
four point one run block So, you know, I'm gonna

00:30:54.220 --> 00:30:57.480
be watching that line I'm real real curious to

00:30:57.480 --> 00:30:59.759
see if we can get that line in shape because

00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:02.220
that's we go where that line's gonna go I think

00:31:02.220 --> 00:31:04.559
from here on out with the offense. We'll see

00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:06.579
what happens We might find out that the Packers

00:31:06.579 --> 00:31:09.539
are just that darn good And we aren't that bad.

00:31:09.539 --> 00:31:13.559
Possibly. We'll see what happens. Go Lions. And

00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:17.220
please listen to our sister podcast, the Litterbox

00:31:17.220 --> 00:31:20.299
Detroit Tigers. And we will talk to you again

00:31:20.299 --> 00:31:23.240
before the Chicago Bears game next Sunday. See

00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.359
you, Chet. Stay sane, Lions fans.