WEBVTT 00:00:06.700 --> 00:00:11.900 This is The Litterbox, a Detroit Lions podcast 00:00:11.900 --> 00:00:19.800 with your hosts, Chad West and Bill Paxton. Lions 00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:25.359 Litterbox listeners. I told you I didn't really 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:28.219 care for preseason football last time we spoke 00:00:28.219 --> 00:00:31.460 because it just doesn't tell us enough about 00:00:31.460 --> 00:00:33.039 the team we're going to see on the field during 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:37.189 the regular season. However, one thing And I'm 00:00:37.189 --> 00:00:38.950 going to ask you a question in a minute, Bill. 00:00:39.049 --> 00:00:43.729 One thing that sticks out to me. What we're learning 00:00:43.729 --> 00:00:46.909 about this team is we don't have a backup quarterback. 00:00:47.289 --> 00:00:50.590 We are learning that our offensive line, once 00:00:50.590 --> 00:00:53.469 you get past that two deep or one deep to the 00:00:53.469 --> 00:00:56.570 two deep, isn't that great? We're young. Our 00:00:56.570 --> 00:00:59.969 D backs look pretty good. Can't really tell much 00:00:59.969 --> 00:01:03.250 about a defense when you're given ball position 00:01:03.250 --> 00:01:06.540 to the other team at the 30. after every drive. 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:09.519 Bill, why don't you wrap up what you saw in the 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:12.780 Hall of Fame game? It was awful and it started 00:01:12.780 --> 00:01:16.680 terrible and continued on that course. Basically, 00:01:17.019 --> 00:01:21.099 the Lions fumbled the opening kickoff, having 00:01:21.099 --> 00:01:25.459 a linebacker receive it, which is also very odd, 00:01:25.540 --> 00:01:28.560 but very on brand for Dan Campbell football, 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:32.739 MCDC. And after that, that wasn't the only short 00:01:32.739 --> 00:01:35.700 field that they gave the Los Angeles Chargers 00:01:35.700 --> 00:01:38.939 who were playing more. Let's just say if they're 00:01:38.939 --> 00:01:41.379 too deep. I don't know that starters were playing 00:01:41.379 --> 00:01:45.319 in this game whatsoever, but but you know players 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:47.640 were playing for the Chargers and they absolutely 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:50.280 smoked the Lions. It's the worst loss in the 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:54.340 Dan Campbell era ever in preseason 34 to 7 and 00:01:54.340 --> 00:01:57.319 they just looked out classed. Most importantly 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:01.010 to your point is that Kyle Allen looked completely 00:02:01.010 --> 00:02:04.409 overwhelmed and couldn't do anything. Anytime 00:02:04.409 --> 00:02:08.889 he was getting a drive started, he threw an interception. 00:02:09.689 --> 00:02:13.129 And even worse, we wait till the second half 00:02:13.129 --> 00:02:16.550 and, you know, our third round pick from a few 00:02:16.550 --> 00:02:19.150 years ago, three years ago, Hendon Hooker comes 00:02:19.150 --> 00:02:22.050 in and can't move the offense. He only completes 00:02:22.050 --> 00:02:26.789 three passes. So overall, I left the game not 00:02:26.789 --> 00:02:30.330 feeling good about anything Not because of the 00:02:30.330 --> 00:02:32.509 score but because we didn't really see anything 00:02:32.509 --> 00:02:37.069 outside of three players Dan skipper played on 00:02:37.069 --> 00:02:39.610 the offensive line and looked like you'd expect 00:02:39.610 --> 00:02:44.509 Dan skipper to be which is He is the backup backup 00:02:44.509 --> 00:02:47.409 tackle, you know, meaning that he'll he's not 00:02:47.409 --> 00:02:51.189 even The guy that's gonna come in if Sewell or 00:02:51.189 --> 00:02:55.280 Decker God forbid get hurt. He's the Extra tackle, 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:58.699 you know at the goal line or you know now eligible 00:02:58.699 --> 00:03:01.060 skipper the other guy that looked really good 00:03:01.060 --> 00:03:06.379 is Our third round pick this year Teh slaw I 00:03:06.379 --> 00:03:09.960 had two catches and he clearly love it look good 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:12.460 Yeah, love it look pretty good, too And then 00:03:12.460 --> 00:03:14.699 Craig Reynolds is the other guy that looked good, 00:03:14.699 --> 00:03:17.939 but Craig Reynolds and skipper were already gonna 00:03:17.939 --> 00:03:21.560 make the team Teh slaw was also gonna make the 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:24.090 team so I didn't learn anything. You know what 00:03:24.090 --> 00:03:26.569 I'm saying? You can call them coleslaw, by the 00:03:26.569 --> 00:03:29.509 way. Just call them coleslaw. So it was great 00:03:29.509 --> 00:03:31.810 that the Lions got an extra week of practice. 00:03:31.870 --> 00:03:34.090 It was great they were on national TV. It was 00:03:34.090 --> 00:03:36.550 great that they got to participate in this, but 00:03:36.550 --> 00:03:40.669 we didn't learn anything. And if anything, I 00:03:40.669 --> 00:03:43.909 left immediately after and like just kind of 00:03:43.909 --> 00:03:46.830 typed up some notes and thought that, you know, 00:03:46.830 --> 00:03:48.530 I think the Chargers look really good, which 00:03:48.530 --> 00:03:51.349 I thought they would look good going into the 00:03:51.349 --> 00:03:54.900 season. I just thought they looked more prepared, 00:03:55.500 --> 00:03:58.039 didn't commit as many mistakes, but again, it's 00:03:58.039 --> 00:04:01.400 week one and you know, of preseason. So how much 00:04:01.400 --> 00:04:04.939 let it go. Yeah. That being said, I'm going to 00:04:04.939 --> 00:04:07.400 volley back to you on this backup quarterback 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:10.219 is a huge concern of mine and Carson Wentz is 00:04:10.219 --> 00:04:13.560 still out there. All he's asking for is a guaranteed 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:18.079 contract and he has to be the number two. I do 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:21.740 not want him getting gobbled up. If this continues, 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:26.620 So I am giving this week to Hendon Hooker, who 00:04:26.620 --> 00:04:29.939 should, according to all notes, is being named 00:04:29.939 --> 00:04:32.540 the starter against the Falcons Friday night 00:04:32.540 --> 00:04:35.819 for the first half. I believe Kyle Allen will 00:04:35.819 --> 00:04:39.860 get the second half. We will not see Jared Goff 00:04:39.860 --> 00:04:44.610 in any way, shape or form. I would like a veteran 00:04:44.610 --> 00:04:47.990 backup that could win us a game against a division 00:04:47.990 --> 00:04:51.430 rival because I have zero confidence that Enden 00:04:51.430 --> 00:04:55.870 Hooker could go to Lambeau or to Minneapolis 00:04:55.870 --> 00:04:59.329 or to Soldier Field even though it's the last 00:04:59.329 --> 00:05:01.769 week of the season and be able to pull a rabbit 00:05:01.769 --> 00:05:04.949 out of his hat. And I have less faith in Kyle 00:05:04.949 --> 00:05:08.350 Allen who literally I think peaked in high school 00:05:08.350 --> 00:05:12.769 as a five -star athlete in his just been mediocre 00:05:12.769 --> 00:05:14.790 since then. Your thoughts? What do you think? 00:05:14.910 --> 00:05:16.850 Let me throw this at you, Bill, because this 00:05:16.850 --> 00:05:18.589 is something I've been kind of thinking about 00:05:18.589 --> 00:05:22.730 only. So we've got a series of concerns lining 00:05:22.730 --> 00:05:26.189 up for this season here. We have an offensive 00:05:26.189 --> 00:05:29.970 line that is slightly restructured, involving 00:05:29.970 --> 00:05:32.730 most likely a rookie in there somewhere. I think 00:05:32.730 --> 00:05:35.410 more than slightly restructured. Three fifths 00:05:35.410 --> 00:05:39.029 of it's going to be new players. We have. edge 00:05:39.029 --> 00:05:42.709 rush concerns and and the health of a one Aiden 00:05:42.709 --> 00:05:45.569 Hutchinson who's now we're starting to hear contract 00:05:45.569 --> 00:05:48.610 talk about Aiden and an extension and how it 00:05:48.610 --> 00:05:52.170 might be kind of a a little bit of a snafu there 00:05:52.170 --> 00:05:56.490 getting to that number and we've got some issues 00:05:56.490 --> 00:05:59.250 with the quarterback position beyond Jared Goff. 00:05:59.629 --> 00:06:02.850 What do you think is the single biggest concern 00:06:02.850 --> 00:06:06.879 Lions fans have for this season? And I'm betting 00:06:06.879 --> 00:06:09.100 it's probably a concern we've had for the last 00:06:09.100 --> 00:06:11.259 two. But what do you think it is? What do you 00:06:11.259 --> 00:06:13.339 think is the single biggest concern for Lions 00:06:13.339 --> 00:06:17.600 fans? Like the one thing that if it happens, 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:20.680 it's like, oh, boy. Jared Goff goes down. The 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:24.300 season's over. Bingo. Unless they pick up the 00:06:24.300 --> 00:06:28.480 phone and get a Carson Wentz, who I'm not saying 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:31.360 is going to get you 15 wins like the Lions had 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:33.399 last year, but should be priority number one. 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:36.839 He could get you If disaster happens, he could 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:40.639 get you to 11 wins. He could get you 10. Playoffs 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:43.160 and maybe golf gets healthy. Who knows? I mean, 00:06:43.220 --> 00:06:45.019 we're obviously sitting here coming up with the 00:06:45.019 --> 00:06:47.500 most hypothetical, but at the same time, we've 00:06:47.500 --> 00:06:50.339 been dodging this bullet for two years. Three 00:06:50.339 --> 00:06:53.339 years going to hit us in the face. And the other 00:06:53.339 --> 00:06:58.680 part of it is to your point, which I think these 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:02.490 go hand in hand. We have a new center. meaning 00:07:02.490 --> 00:07:04.810 that Frank Ragnow is no longer the center, whether 00:07:04.810 --> 00:07:07.949 it's Graham Glasgow, who has also played center 00:07:07.949 --> 00:07:10.310 for the Lions. He's also played left guard and 00:07:10.310 --> 00:07:13.810 right guard. It's a new position for him with 00:07:13.810 --> 00:07:16.850 the other guys on the line. You've got a rookie 00:07:16.850 --> 00:07:19.930 at one of those spots in Tate Ratledge, whether 00:07:19.930 --> 00:07:23.589 he's the center or whether he's the right guard 00:07:23.589 --> 00:07:27.050 guard. Yeah. And then you've got a new left guard, 00:07:27.350 --> 00:07:30.439 probably in mahogany who played well. you know, 00:07:30.620 --> 00:07:33.639 in spot duty last year, but small sample size. 00:07:33.779 --> 00:07:37.500 So that coupled with the fact that play action 00:07:37.500 --> 00:07:40.959 is the lion's bread and butter. The chance that 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:43.819 your quarterback may take a few hits. He always 00:07:43.819 --> 00:07:48.110 does. Could be, you know, more in play. with 00:07:48.110 --> 00:07:52.009 a less experienced line. And so I ask, everybody 00:07:52.009 --> 00:07:54.970 talks, oh, go sign Z, go sign, get us some address. 00:07:55.149 --> 00:07:57.329 You know what? I have to love a backup quarterback 00:07:57.329 --> 00:08:00.389 right now that's capable. I don't know what Hendon 00:08:00.389 --> 00:08:02.449 Hooker has been doing for three years. I have 00:08:02.449 --> 00:08:05.629 no clue, but he hasn't picked it up. It isn't 00:08:05.629 --> 00:08:08.389 there. And Kyle Allen hasn't started a game in 00:08:08.389 --> 00:08:11.910 years for a reason. Yeah, like I said, he peaked 00:08:11.910 --> 00:08:15.189 in high school football. In Texas A &M, he showed 00:08:15.189 --> 00:08:18.279 nothing, which... Jimbo Fisher contract be damn 00:08:18.279 --> 00:08:20.959 probably wished he hadn't signed him and didn't 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:24.079 hooker has a golden opportunity Placed in front 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:26.100 of them like our sister podcast. It's kind of 00:08:26.100 --> 00:08:28.300 like Jayce young. There's an opening at third 00:08:28.300 --> 00:08:30.519 base There's an opening at backup quarterback. 00:08:30.680 --> 00:08:33.179 Take it hand in hooker. They drafted you they 00:08:33.179 --> 00:08:36.480 traded up Your dad is good friends with Brad 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:39.559 Holmes You have the longest leash of any backup 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:43.279 quarterback ever drafted by any team in the history 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:46.429 of the NFL And if you can't capitalize on it, 00:08:46.970 --> 00:08:49.149 he really needs to figure this out. Give us some 00:08:49.149 --> 00:08:52.169 confidence. I don't feel bad for a moment if 00:08:52.169 --> 00:08:55.009 Brad Holmes and company pick up the phone and 00:08:55.009 --> 00:08:58.090 get a Carson once. What worries me, Chet, is 00:08:58.090 --> 00:09:00.769 news of the day, Teddy Bridgewater, who's always 00:09:00.769 --> 00:09:04.690 been the de facto Lions backup signed with the 00:09:04.690 --> 00:09:07.789 Buccaneers today. And not that I wanted him, 00:09:08.230 --> 00:09:11.629 but Huntley, he played at UCLA, signed with the 00:09:11.629 --> 00:09:14.129 Browns. The Browns are just collecting quarterbacks 00:09:14.129 --> 00:09:16.210 at this point. I feel like Carson Owens would 00:09:16.210 --> 00:09:18.309 be a perfect backup quarterback for this team. 00:09:18.590 --> 00:09:20.970 Perfect. I don't know why. I do too. I don't 00:09:20.970 --> 00:09:24.070 know why he fits. In my mind, he fits. He could 00:09:24.070 --> 00:09:26.350 come in and manage a game and keep us out of 00:09:26.350 --> 00:09:28.309 trouble and possibly win some games with the 00:09:28.309 --> 00:09:30.429 talent that he's going to have around him. And 00:09:30.429 --> 00:09:32.629 should we start talking about some of that talent? 00:09:33.490 --> 00:09:35.690 Yeah, in just a minute. The other thing with 00:09:35.690 --> 00:09:38.769 that is that he excels in the play action offense 00:09:38.769 --> 00:09:42.440 is the other part of that, which is the I've 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:44.759 heard so much about, hey, we're gonna miss, you 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:47.980 know, our offensive coordinator. What did Ben 00:09:47.980 --> 00:09:50.899 John? He was God's gift to the offense, this 00:09:50.899 --> 00:09:53.879 and that. I think John Morton's gonna fit in 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:56.299 pretty seamlessly. Think it'll be fine. Yeah. 00:09:56.539 --> 00:09:58.740 I think the key thing is gonna be, can the offensive 00:09:58.740 --> 00:10:01.580 line in that middle hold? How's the center quarterback 00:10:01.580 --> 00:10:04.379 exchange gonna be? And can we keep Jared Goff 00:10:04.379 --> 00:10:07.490 healthy for 17 games? Let's talk about the other 00:10:07.490 --> 00:10:09.750 aspect of it. I think you wanted to talk a little 00:10:09.750 --> 00:10:12.070 bit about probably the number one strength of 00:10:12.070 --> 00:10:13.769 the team, which is the running back position. 00:10:14.129 --> 00:10:18.470 I think this coming season, Jameer Gibbs has 00:10:18.470 --> 00:10:20.710 a chance to be the best running back in the NFL. 00:10:20.990 --> 00:10:26.669 I think he can exceed or pass Saquon. I think 00:10:26.669 --> 00:10:30.029 he's going to be turned loose. I think Morton's 00:10:30.029 --> 00:10:31.990 offense, I think he's going to get a lot more 00:10:31.990 --> 00:10:35.000 involved in passing game. You're gonna see him 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:37.620 cracking up some passing yards. You're gonna 00:10:37.620 --> 00:10:39.639 see him getting the football in the run more 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:42.679 often I think it's gonna be a little less predictable 00:10:42.679 --> 00:10:45.960 as to whether we have a passing down or a running 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:48.559 down and a passing player running play queued 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:50.919 up Based on who's in the backfield. I think you're 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:53.399 gonna see a little bit more of a variation there 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:56.139 I think Gibbs is gonna get used a lot more I 00:10:56.139 --> 00:10:59.200 think Craig Reynolds makes a fine third running 00:10:59.200 --> 00:11:02.000 back on this team and I know everybody was Patting 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:03.940 him on the back after last week's Hall of Fame 00:11:03.940 --> 00:11:06.120 game because he turned in a good performance. 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:08.080 Craig Reynolds is solid. You know what? Craig 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:09.779 Reynolds is kind of what we need a quarterback 00:11:09.779 --> 00:11:14.340 right now. A good backup that we know will get 00:11:14.340 --> 00:11:18.519 us the win, get us the yards, whatnot. But Hennan 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:20.320 Hooker has all these weapons around him and can't 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:22.659 figure it out. Carson Wentz with all these weapons 00:11:22.659 --> 00:11:24.620 I think could figure it out very well. Similar 00:11:24.620 --> 00:11:27.440 to how Jared Goff has figured it out within this 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:30.039 offense with all these weapons. The offensive 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:32.200 line, question mark. The other strength that 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:35.960 I see is the wide receiver crew. I think this 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:40.519 Tayslaw guy, Tayslaw. Coleslaw. Coleslaw. I think 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:43.340 Coleslaw is going to be the real deal. I see 00:11:43.340 --> 00:11:46.899 him, he's going to slot right in there and provide 00:11:46.899 --> 00:11:50.840 that sort of intermediate range that we need. 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:53.139 I think Jamo is going to be, you know, he got 00:11:53.139 --> 00:11:55.529 his number one. I think he's going to be flying 00:11:55.529 --> 00:11:58.230 up and down the field doing his thing. And from 00:11:58.230 --> 00:12:00.649 all reports, he's just been burning people in 00:12:00.649 --> 00:12:04.169 practice. And he's apparently rounded out his 00:12:04.169 --> 00:12:06.570 work ethic this past off season and really started 00:12:06.570 --> 00:12:09.730 working on, you know, his physical and his approach 00:12:09.730 --> 00:12:13.570 to his routes and whatnot. Mental, that's always 00:12:13.570 --> 00:12:15.149 going to be a question mark there. We'll see. 00:12:15.529 --> 00:12:18.490 We'll see. Give him a chance, I guess. I think 00:12:18.490 --> 00:12:21.389 Laporta is going to get used a ton. in this Morton 00:12:21.389 --> 00:12:24.429 offense. I think he's going to be a huge weapon 00:12:24.429 --> 00:12:26.190 this season. I think he's going to have a bounce 00:12:26.190 --> 00:12:28.649 back. He had a little down sophomore year. I 00:12:28.649 --> 00:12:30.450 think this junior season here is going to be 00:12:30.450 --> 00:12:33.429 a big one for him. So I have some thoughts on 00:12:33.429 --> 00:12:36.669 all of that, if I can add. You're 100 percent 00:12:36.669 --> 00:12:40.710 correct. And Coleslaw being on board, I hope 00:12:40.710 --> 00:12:44.549 it means the name Tom Kennedy never comes across 00:12:44.549 --> 00:12:47.669 ever again and nothing against him. Just envision 00:12:47.669 --> 00:12:51.389 this. You've got Amon Ra, J Mo. and and slaw 00:12:51.389 --> 00:12:54.929 in there okay and those three guys and tim patrick 00:12:54.929 --> 00:12:58.110 who just sustained an injury tim patrick did 00:12:58.110 --> 00:13:00.710 sustain an injury um i think there's there's 00:13:00.710 --> 00:13:02.649 a little bit of an injury update on him today 00:13:02.649 --> 00:13:06.169 he left practice let's hope it's nothing too 00:13:06.169 --> 00:13:10.149 serious but either way but slaw gets more slaw 00:13:10.149 --> 00:13:13.279 gets more throws he gets a little more mayo And 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:16.820 Patrick has had MCL and ACL injuries in the past, 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:18.059 which is how the Lions were. He has had injury 00:13:18.059 --> 00:13:20.559 issues. That's exactly right. And if I can circle 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:23.039 back to running backs, I've got a name for you. 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:26.740 Okay. I agree with you 100 % on Jameer Gibbs. 00:13:27.139 --> 00:13:29.500 Okay. I do think David Montgomery's workload 00:13:29.500 --> 00:13:32.019 is going to start seeing a slight decrease. Just 00:13:32.019 --> 00:13:34.100 a slight decrease. And I don't see David Montgomery 00:13:34.100 --> 00:13:36.929 being a Lion. Next season. Okay, I think this 00:13:36.929 --> 00:13:39.590 is his last season and the reason for that is 00:13:39.590 --> 00:13:41.070 I can go with all that I think that's probably 00:13:41.070 --> 00:13:44.409 that's all right. She owned Vahki is Gonna start 00:13:44.409 --> 00:13:47.190 getting those short line carries. He was a draft 00:13:47.190 --> 00:13:49.929 pick that again Common theme here Brad Holmes 00:13:49.929 --> 00:13:53.710 traded up for he played safety and running back 00:13:53.710 --> 00:13:57.710 at Utah was an exceptional player He got a look 00:13:57.710 --> 00:14:00.830 or two last year when Montgomery went down and 00:14:00.830 --> 00:14:02.789 he looked real good running the football when 00:14:02.789 --> 00:14:06.080 he had it And he is someone I would expect these 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:09.320 next two weeks in the preseason to get long looks. 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:13.440 Apparently he is catching the ball very well. 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:16.879 Out of the backfield, he's a bigger back, more 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:20.919 in the Montgomery mold than the Gibbs mold. But 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:23.120 I still think Gibbs is going to have an exceptional 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:25.879 season. The other thing I heard is that JMo's 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:29.549 route tree has been expanded great. Greatly. 00:14:29.549 --> 00:14:31.490 I don't know if that means that Ben Johnson's 00:14:31.490 --> 00:14:34.509 route tree was too Expansive for him. It was 00:14:34.509 --> 00:14:37.509 too complex or if Johnny Morton's just dumbing 00:14:37.509 --> 00:14:40.649 it down or they've come to a you know, happy 00:14:40.649 --> 00:14:44.929 place All those things are good From what we're 00:14:44.929 --> 00:14:47.669 hearing on this two other names for you in the 00:14:47.669 --> 00:14:50.009 running back room who I don't think will even 00:14:50.009 --> 00:14:54.570 make the 53 man Jabari small and Jacob sailors 00:14:54.570 --> 00:14:58.539 just watch him this week, but Probably say goodbye 00:14:58.539 --> 00:15:02.679 as you think so. All right. Well, I mean, I don't 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:05.379 see them carrying more than four running backs. 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:08.200 We know Montgomery Gibbs and Craig Reynolds are 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:10.379 going to make the team. I would say there is 00:15:10.379 --> 00:15:13.009 a well, excuse me. I would say Vocky is going 00:15:13.009 --> 00:15:14.710 to make the team and I would also say Reynolds 00:15:14.710 --> 00:15:16.830 makes the team. Vocky plays a lot of special 00:15:16.830 --> 00:15:19.250 teams too, so he's got a spot there. So does 00:15:19.250 --> 00:15:21.570 Craig Reynolds. The other reason why I would 00:15:21.570 --> 00:15:24.169 also say that, you know, when we talk about the 00:15:24.169 --> 00:15:26.889 receiver room, you know, it's JMo, it's Amon, 00:15:27.250 --> 00:15:30.850 it's Tim Patrick, it's Cole Slaw, and then Raymond 00:15:30.850 --> 00:15:33.590 does return puns and kicks, so he's going to 00:15:33.590 --> 00:15:36.049 be... part of that mix as well. Tom Kennedy, 00:15:36.230 --> 00:15:38.710 it was awesome seeing you in preseason for the 00:15:38.710 --> 00:15:41.210 last three years. Well, you know, we finally, 00:15:41.210 --> 00:15:44.149 we finally appear to have some receiver depth. 00:15:44.169 --> 00:15:46.830 Yeah. And we were kind of cobbling that third 00:15:46.830 --> 00:15:48.830 and fourth receiver thing together for a while 00:15:48.830 --> 00:15:51.789 there. Josh Reynolds had a season. He left, got 00:15:51.789 --> 00:15:54.230 money. Did nothing. Played terribly where he 00:15:54.230 --> 00:15:56.129 went. Did nothing. You know what's interesting? 00:15:56.610 --> 00:15:58.909 Patrick turned him into a three. Number three, 00:15:59.029 --> 00:16:01.889 number four guy. That went pretty well. He's 00:16:01.889 --> 00:16:03.809 injury prone. He has an injury to start the season 00:16:03.809 --> 00:16:06.769 off. I see Lovett and Slough picking that up. 00:16:07.210 --> 00:16:09.309 And I think you got your permanent three there 00:16:09.309 --> 00:16:11.610 in Slough here pretty soon. So I've got a bunch 00:16:11.610 --> 00:16:14.370 of family. I'm gonna give a shout out to nephews, 00:16:14.730 --> 00:16:18.169 Austin and Cooper, who are big Broncos fans. 00:16:18.509 --> 00:16:21.549 In the minute that Patrick was signed by the 00:16:21.549 --> 00:16:25.610 Lions and they... Conversely they being the Broncos 00:16:25.610 --> 00:16:28.629 had signed Reynolds. They're like the Lions fleeced 00:16:28.629 --> 00:16:31.570 us They fleeced us the Broncos are doomed with 00:16:31.570 --> 00:16:34.929 this and Josh Reynolds was not a good Bronco 00:16:34.929 --> 00:16:37.269 whatsoever matter of fact. He didn't even suit 00:16:37.269 --> 00:16:40.710 up In the jet now. We'll see what happens there. 00:16:40.809 --> 00:16:44.049 Well, good luck Aaron Glenn Aaron Glenn's going 00:16:44.049 --> 00:16:48.570 to be just the next ex jet head coach But I do 00:16:48.570 --> 00:16:51.470 have a, and I think Ben Johnson's go to die. 00:16:51.529 --> 00:16:53.529 It used to be the lions. Now it's the jets. I 00:16:53.529 --> 00:16:55.649 also think Ben Johnson's going to be the next 00:16:55.649 --> 00:16:58.409 ex bears coach. I do have a beer bet for you 00:16:58.409 --> 00:17:01.649 though. Okay. I agree with you about Gibbs. There's 00:17:01.649 --> 00:17:04.410 no way he scores 20 touchdowns again. I think 00:17:04.410 --> 00:17:07.930 the numbers under that and really. Yeah. So old 00:17:07.930 --> 00:17:10.690 style coming your way. You can send me whatever. 00:17:11.690 --> 00:17:14.950 Okay. The finest is a grain belt. Is that your 00:17:15.049 --> 00:17:17.130 Grain belt would be a good match to old style. 00:17:17.130 --> 00:17:20.289 It would be a good swap. Okay. So, uh, I would 00:17:20.289 --> 00:17:22.349 love it if it happens. I just think they're going 00:17:22.349 --> 00:17:25.710 to diversify a little more because I hope that 00:17:25.710 --> 00:17:27.809 David Montgomery is more healthy, but I also 00:17:27.809 --> 00:17:30.430 think Vocky is going to get a lot of carries 00:17:30.430 --> 00:17:33.170 on that. So anything else you'd like to touch 00:17:33.170 --> 00:17:36.450 on, on the skill positions on the offense? Here, 00:17:36.450 --> 00:17:39.400 here's what I know. I have nothing else where 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:42.720 offense is concerned. I do want to touch on defense 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:44.740 because there are a couple of things I heard, 00:17:45.019 --> 00:17:47.180 little chatter, little quotes and whatnot that 00:17:47.180 --> 00:17:49.619 I heard this past week that I found very interesting 00:17:49.619 --> 00:17:52.799 on the defensive side. Are you ready for defense? 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:56.319 Yeah. I just, can we do one thing? Cause I just 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:59.160 want to do due diligence to it. I'm looking at, 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:02.539 you know, today's practice roster and what's 00:18:02.539 --> 00:18:06.400 being forecast via the Lions website. And so 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:09.119 right now, the offensive line is Taylor Decker, 00:18:09.140 --> 00:18:11.579 you know, left tackle. No surprises there. He 00:18:11.579 --> 00:18:14.400 did have to have his, I believe his knee cleaned 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:16.799 up a little bit, but he's back at practice and 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:19.000 doing fine. Christian Mahogany, as mentioned, 00:18:19.220 --> 00:18:22.380 is the left guard. Graham Glasgow has been taking 00:18:22.380 --> 00:18:24.940 the majority of snaps at center. Tate Ratledge 00:18:24.940 --> 00:18:27.279 is going to be the right guard, as you said earlier, 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:30.859 and then the all -pro, all -world, all -everything. 00:18:31.240 --> 00:18:35.039 Penne Sewell is going to be a right tackle. Pretty 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:39.599 comfortable with that five if that's the five 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:42.279 that they stick with practice with and works 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:46.599 best I was always really nervous about drafting 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:50.259 a guard Regardless of how well ratledge played 00:18:50.259 --> 00:18:52.660 and for you know, the pedigree of program He 00:18:52.660 --> 00:18:54.720 played at the University of Georgia starting 00:18:54.720 --> 00:18:57.839 him as a center when he wasn't a center in my 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:01.809 example is this I had forgotten that Frank Ragnow, 00:19:01.910 --> 00:19:05.490 who was an all SEC center at Arkansas, wasn't 00:19:05.490 --> 00:19:09.529 the starting center his first year as a lion. 00:19:09.829 --> 00:19:13.329 His rookie year, Travis Swanson, was the center. 00:19:13.529 --> 00:19:16.150 And then they eventually moved him over, which 00:19:16.150 --> 00:19:19.210 could also say a lot about former or previous 00:19:19.210 --> 00:19:22.170 regimes and their ineptitude. But what I'm saying 00:19:22.170 --> 00:19:24.630 is I'm much more comfortable having a veteran 00:19:24.630 --> 00:19:28.910 there and easing into the position. Whether it 00:19:28.910 --> 00:19:31.309 be ratledge or they draft a center in the future 00:19:31.309 --> 00:19:35.369 Then starting a rookie there in Lambeau field 00:19:35.369 --> 00:19:38.650 week one. That's my take on that I don't see 00:19:38.650 --> 00:19:41.230 ratledge starting at center week one. We're aligned 00:19:41.230 --> 00:19:43.470 I think it's gonna be end of the season have 00:19:43.470 --> 00:19:45.549 second half of the season unless something drastic 00:19:45.549 --> 00:19:49.910 happens. Well, let's hope Glasgow You know is 00:19:49.910 --> 00:19:53.289 healthy centers are a tough Yeah a tough by the 00:19:53.289 --> 00:19:55.970 way quick plug before we get to defense for those 00:19:55.970 --> 00:19:59.000 of you that haven't watched Netflix's quarterback, 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:03.740 great Jared Goff stuff. Absolutely amazing. They 00:20:03.740 --> 00:20:06.460 follow three quarterbacks, Kurt Cousins, who 00:20:06.460 --> 00:20:08.859 seemingly is always on it. He's entertaining. 00:20:08.980 --> 00:20:11.200 Go figure. He's the entertaining guy. I don't 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:13.099 think prior to two years ago, anybody would have 00:20:13.099 --> 00:20:14.700 thought Kurt Cousins would be entertaining. Yeah, 00:20:14.700 --> 00:20:16.920 exactly. Now he's everybody's favorite guy to 00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:19.240 watch on, you know, the reality shows. Crazy. 00:20:19.640 --> 00:20:21.960 Jared Goff, who is also extremely entertaining, 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:25.150 but in a totally different sense. And then A 00:20:25.150 --> 00:20:27.769 Joe Burrow who, outside of his talent, seems 00:20:27.769 --> 00:20:30.829 to be kind of an enigma, in my opinion, but whatever. 00:20:31.609 --> 00:20:33.630 You know, for fun, they should just throw, like, 00:20:33.750 --> 00:20:36.490 Bill Belichick and his girlfriend in there. Just 00:20:36.490 --> 00:20:39.690 to ratchet up the entertainment. Just what they 00:20:39.690 --> 00:20:41.670 talk about on the side, along with the rest of 00:20:41.670 --> 00:20:44.069 these guys. They don't talk. They don't talk. 00:20:44.589 --> 00:20:46.910 You don't think so? They're getting into deep 00:20:46.910 --> 00:20:48.990 conversations on the couch, Bill. How do you 00:20:48.990 --> 00:20:51.349 like the wine, honey? What's her Amazon account 00:20:51.349 --> 00:20:55.190 number again, Bill? Dear oh boy. All right, so 00:20:55.190 --> 00:20:57.230 let's head to defense. Let's do defense before 00:20:57.230 --> 00:21:00.410 we get in trouble So I I heard two things this 00:21:00.410 --> 00:21:02.029 past week and we really kind of hammered in on 00:21:02.029 --> 00:21:04.170 the defense in the first episode So I don't want 00:21:04.170 --> 00:21:06.589 to go too deep on defense this time, but I heard 00:21:06.589 --> 00:21:08.869 a couple interesting things number one We've 00:21:08.869 --> 00:21:11.329 got a couple of free agent signings veterans 00:21:11.329 --> 00:21:15.150 back there between DJ Reid and Avante Maddox 00:21:15.150 --> 00:21:18.029 this past week You got a glimpse into, you know, 00:21:18.109 --> 00:21:20.670 I love reading these Dan Campbell quotes midweek 00:21:20.670 --> 00:21:23.069 because you get a glimpse into kind of his mind 00:21:23.069 --> 00:21:25.210 and how it works and what he's how he's evaluating 00:21:25.210 --> 00:21:28.450 these guys. And he couldn't stop talking to Vonte 00:21:28.450 --> 00:21:31.130 Maddox up one day. Total Pro does everything 00:21:31.130 --> 00:21:33.809 right, knows what his limitations are, knows 00:21:33.809 --> 00:21:36.190 how to get around. It was it was a great I think 00:21:36.190 --> 00:21:39.910 that cornerback group is going to be a huge strength. 00:21:40.009 --> 00:21:43.539 And we said at the first. first episode, I have 00:21:43.539 --> 00:21:46.960 a feeling that that crew is going to be a lot 00:21:46.960 --> 00:21:50.099 like a legion of boom or a no -fly zone type 00:21:50.099 --> 00:21:53.500 deal back there. I may be overplaying this a 00:21:53.500 --> 00:21:55.400 little bit. I may be looking at some of the quotes 00:21:55.400 --> 00:21:57.359 and some of the comments, but I have a feeling 00:21:57.359 --> 00:21:59.720 we're going to have a really good pass defense 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:03.500 this season. I felt a lot better about it before 00:22:03.500 --> 00:22:08.039 the last 72 hours. Seventh round draft pick from 00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:11.250 the University of Georgia, Dan Jackson. Who is 00:22:11.250 --> 00:22:14.190 nothing more than a backup safety special teams 00:22:14.190 --> 00:22:18.690 guy? Is now an injured reserve and the news from 00:22:18.690 --> 00:22:21.710 camp this week is that Ennis rake straw? Probably 00:22:21.710 --> 00:22:25.430 will not suit up at least for the first eight 00:22:25.430 --> 00:22:28.910 weeks ten weeks of this season He had a chest 00:22:28.910 --> 00:22:32.210 contusion and a shoulder injury and Dan Campbell. 00:22:32.210 --> 00:22:35.950 God bless him man. So professional complimented 00:22:35.950 --> 00:22:38.950 him, was very stoic about it. That being said, 00:22:39.269 --> 00:22:41.130 I agree. Two guys that weren't going to contribute 00:22:41.130 --> 00:22:43.210 a ton right off the bat, either way. OK, all 00:22:43.210 --> 00:22:45.390 right. Well, I have a name for you. I don't mean 00:22:45.390 --> 00:22:47.670 to take the air out of that news, but I just 00:22:47.670 --> 00:22:49.509 don't think that that is going to move the needle 00:22:49.509 --> 00:22:51.410 enough to crush our defensive backfield. Well, 00:22:51.430 --> 00:22:53.069 I have a name for you that I think is going to 00:22:53.069 --> 00:22:58.180 fill the void very well. Rock. He had a good, 00:22:58.400 --> 00:23:01.680 he had a decent game last week. And he was a 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:03.579 former second round pick of the Indianapolis 00:23:03.579 --> 00:23:05.900 Colts that could never find his feet underneath 00:23:05.900 --> 00:23:12.299 them there. And apparently, this staff are OCK. 00:23:13.319 --> 00:23:17.880 The Rock. I -A -S -I -N. Apostrophe. Yeah, S 00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:22.819 -I -N. Yeah, so I love DJ Reid, Terry -Ann Arnold. 00:23:22.940 --> 00:23:26.220 So you've got two lockdown corners right there. 00:23:26.460 --> 00:23:29.240 Apparently DJ Reid's lit it up in camp. Apparently 00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:31.079 Terry -Ann Arnold looks like a different person 00:23:31.079 --> 00:23:33.240 this year, a different player with a year under 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:35.980 his belt. And Amique Robertson, I think, is one 00:23:35.980 --> 00:23:38.859 of the best nickelbacks in the business. You 00:23:38.859 --> 00:23:41.220 already mentioned Avante Maddox. So they've got 00:23:41.220 --> 00:23:44.559 four deep right there. not counting Khalil Dorsey. 00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:47.519 And then I everything I'm reading and hearing 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:50.839 from, you know, the public sources. I don't have 00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:52.880 any real sources. I have anybody in the locker 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:55.519 room. OK, I wish you and Jamo don't go out for 00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:57.079 drinks and he doesn't give you the inside scoop. 00:23:57.279 --> 00:23:59.079 We do go out for drinks, but I don't get the 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:03.480 inside scoop. Rock Yasin is my pick to click. 00:24:03.619 --> 00:24:06.559 OK, like I think he's going to make the 53 man. 00:24:06.779 --> 00:24:08.740 I think he's going to surprise us. He might. 00:24:09.059 --> 00:24:11.259 I mean, I think that either way, I think that 00:24:11.259 --> 00:24:13.079 the defensive backfield is going to be a huge 00:24:13.079 --> 00:24:15.519 strength. The other thing I heard, not so much 00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.319 on the positive side, and this was kind of Dan 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:21.460 kind of sending a message, I think, I believe 00:24:21.460 --> 00:24:24.339 it was directed at Nate Lynn, who's somebody 00:24:24.339 --> 00:24:26.220 that we're kind of hoping might contribute in 00:24:26.220 --> 00:24:29.700 the edge rush. He had a statistically had a fairly 00:24:29.700 --> 00:24:33.069 decent game. in the Hall of Fame game. I believe 00:24:33.069 --> 00:24:35.730 he got into the backfield a few times, if that's 00:24:35.730 --> 00:24:38.390 what a decent game consists of. Pro Football 00:24:38.390 --> 00:24:40.950 Focus hated his game, but go ahead. OK, so that 00:24:40.950 --> 00:24:44.069 might align with how with how Campbell felt. 00:24:44.369 --> 00:24:46.789 Yeah, no. Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes are big 00:24:46.789 --> 00:24:50.710 fans of Pro Football Focus. I think a lot of 00:24:50.710 --> 00:24:52.329 GMs and head coaches are in this day and age. 00:24:52.369 --> 00:24:55.470 Do you know who owns Pro Football Focus? Chris 00:24:55.470 --> 00:24:59.710 Collinsworth. It's incredible. You know, Chris. 00:24:59.920 --> 00:25:02.180 He's got his gig on Monday Night Football, and 00:25:02.180 --> 00:25:04.079 then he's got pro football focus. Well, no, and 00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:05.940 not only that, he got a son hired. And if you 00:25:05.940 --> 00:25:09.339 go to the NBC Sports, literally under Jack Collinsworth, 00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:13.069 it says he's Chris Collinsworth's son. Wonderful. 00:25:13.210 --> 00:25:15.170 Let me talk about Nate Lynn, the Nate Lynn comment. 00:25:16.170 --> 00:25:18.190 This gives you some insight into what he's looking 00:25:18.190 --> 00:25:21.349 for in these guys and the technique and whether 00:25:21.349 --> 00:25:23.549 they're doing things right and wrong. You keep 00:25:23.549 --> 00:25:25.410 hearing him say stuff like that when he's grading 00:25:25.410 --> 00:25:27.789 these guys out. Nate Lynn got in the backfield 00:25:27.789 --> 00:25:29.970 a lot, but all the pressure was coming from the 00:25:29.970 --> 00:25:31.890 back side of the quarterback or behind the quarterback. 00:25:32.369 --> 00:25:34.869 So he kind of made this comment. He's like, you 00:25:34.869 --> 00:25:36.549 know, it's great that he gets in there. And if 00:25:36.549 --> 00:25:38.970 he gets the occasional sack that way, whatever, 00:25:39.190 --> 00:25:41.589 I don't care because I'm not even looking at 00:25:41.589 --> 00:25:43.950 that. If he doesn't get the sack, but he comes 00:25:43.950 --> 00:25:45.890 up the middle and gets in the quarterback space 00:25:45.890 --> 00:25:48.390 and moves the quarterback's feet That's what 00:25:48.390 --> 00:25:50.829 I care about when you hear stuff like that from 00:25:50.829 --> 00:25:53.470 Dan Campbell I find that fascinating insight 00:25:53.470 --> 00:25:56.650 and it does make a ton of sense And this is a 00:25:56.650 --> 00:25:59.069 line that's gonna need to move that quarterback 00:25:59.069 --> 00:26:02.430 around and make them uncomfortable So if they 00:26:02.430 --> 00:26:04.210 can do that with the defensive backfield, they 00:26:04.210 --> 00:26:07.109 got coupled in there I see turnover margin going 00:26:07.109 --> 00:26:10.170 up. I think we're gonna have a solid defense 00:26:10.170 --> 00:26:12.700 this year I think we'll have a solid offense 00:26:12.700 --> 00:26:16.099 eventually. I don't want to judge this team on 00:26:16.099 --> 00:26:18.599 preseason games at this point. I just don't. 00:26:18.740 --> 00:26:22.039 I'll do the individual thing, but I'm terrified 00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:24.279 of judging this team on what we see in the preseason. 00:26:24.420 --> 00:26:28.559 People should not get too worried. If I can do 00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:30.599 a pro football focus, the highest graded player 00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:35.019 from last Thursday's hall of fame game was actually 00:26:35.019 --> 00:26:38.660 Ahmed Hassaneen. Was he? Yeah. Yeah. The D and 00:26:38.660 --> 00:26:42.680 the new defense. Yeah. And so another thing that 00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:46.319 I keep reading out of camp is that Aiden Hutchinson 00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:50.720 looks all worldly. Davenport Marcus, that is 00:26:50.720 --> 00:26:54.700 looks really good as well. And that Josh Pascal 00:26:54.700 --> 00:26:59.970 continues to disappoint and that Hassaneen might 00:26:59.970 --> 00:27:03.809 eclipse him to be second on that edge on the 00:27:03.809 --> 00:27:08.410 other side of Hutchinson. So just know that he 00:27:08.410 --> 00:27:10.869 might be a diamond in the rough and great to 00:27:10.869 --> 00:27:13.670 this staff for finding him. I agree with everything 00:27:13.670 --> 00:27:16.049 you're saying about the defense. My only concern 00:27:16.049 --> 00:27:20.049 is defensive line injuries. If we went into the 00:27:20.049 --> 00:27:23.269 season with McNeil and Reeder starting, I'd feel 00:27:23.269 --> 00:27:26.440 a lot better than I do with Tylek Williams. in 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:28.640 Reader starting. It puts a lot of pressure on 00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:31.519 Reader who's having a good camp. Williams is 00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:35.519 basically a rock against the run. You cannot 00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:38.859 run against him. I'm willing to give Tylek Williams 00:27:38.859 --> 00:27:41.400 the shot here, though. I think he's got the skill. 00:27:41.660 --> 00:27:43.519 I think they've, from everything I've read about 00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:45.420 the guys, I think he's going to be a pretty good 00:27:45.420 --> 00:27:48.759 one. That said, you don't want, you know, if 00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:52.180 you can have a Lee McNeil, you want a Lee McNeil, 00:27:52.180 --> 00:27:54.039 but he's just not going to get healthy in time. 00:27:54.220 --> 00:27:57.390 Yeah, it's just The depth after that though, 00:27:57.549 --> 00:28:00.289 let's just say Williams isn't that, you know, 00:28:00.450 --> 00:28:02.910 because right now the starting, you know, defensive 00:28:02.910 --> 00:28:04.950 line looks like it's Reader and Williams. After 00:28:04.950 --> 00:28:07.130 last season, it was like a revolving door. And 00:28:07.130 --> 00:28:09.849 then you've got Roy Lopez, who they signed as 00:28:09.849 --> 00:28:12.470 a free agent from the Cardinals, who wasn't a 00:28:12.470 --> 00:28:15.529 significant contributor. You've got McKay Wingo, 00:28:15.829 --> 00:28:19.589 who is a LSU product that the Lions drafted who 00:28:19.769 --> 00:28:22.390 Seemingly can't stay on the field and then you've 00:28:22.390 --> 00:28:24.930 got Pat O 'Connor and then it gets really bad 00:28:24.930 --> 00:28:27.190 You've got Broderick Martin who's never healthy 00:28:27.190 --> 00:28:29.990 Chris Smith miles Adams and Keith Cooper jr. 00:28:29.990 --> 00:28:33.230 So I am with you that health is gonna be a big 00:28:33.230 --> 00:28:37.190 thing well, and I if they don't let's just say 00:28:37.190 --> 00:28:40.329 best -case scenario Hendon Hooker shows and all 00:28:40.329 --> 00:28:42.509 good things happen over the preseason and he 00:28:42.509 --> 00:28:44.450 truly is a backup quarterback that you believe 00:28:44.450 --> 00:28:47.279 in and can build around I still don't know that 00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:50.200 Zedaria Smith is the greatest priority. I think 00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:54.599 D -Lion getting somebody that was cut or somebody 00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:57.440 that's fallen out of favor. Could you feel like 00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:59.119 that's what they're going to wait and do though 00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:01.980 before they sign somebody like Z? I feel like 00:29:01.980 --> 00:29:03.460 they're going to wait and see what cuts look 00:29:03.460 --> 00:29:06.579 like. I think Z is going to be a lion. There's 00:29:06.579 --> 00:29:08.920 no way he's going to training camp though. He's 00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:11.640 a veteran. Why would he? You know, I, I'm just 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:13.599 curious. I just, I wonder if they're just going 00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:16.119 to wait and see what happens with cuts before 00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:18.759 they make any moves and sign guys. That seems 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.779 to be, you know, mantra with this. He's just 00:29:22.779 --> 00:29:25.799 going to show to Comerica and Belle Isle and 00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:29.740 other Detroit luminaries, both conies with cash 00:29:29.740 --> 00:29:32.339 doll and just go from there, you know, and hopefully 00:29:32.339 --> 00:29:34.660 he'll be a lion again. So what are you looking 00:29:34.660 --> 00:29:37.119 to see against the Falcons this week? A hand 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:42.039 and hooker be capable. Need to see Hendo do something 00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:45.059 here and quite frankly Kyle Allen could literally 00:29:45.059 --> 00:29:49.500 go 20 of 20 in the second half. I'm not sure 00:29:49.500 --> 00:29:52.380 I'd trust them anyways wouldn't change my opinion 00:29:52.380 --> 00:29:56.079 Whatsoever I would still be hoping that Carson 00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:58.079 Wentz picks up the phone. I want to see a little 00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:00.799 more slaw I want some more slaw with a little 00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:04.730 more Mayo You like mayo with your slaw, don't 00:30:04.730 --> 00:30:06.730 you? I do. Yeah, I like a heavy mayoed slaw. 00:30:06.829 --> 00:30:09.069 Yeah, I'm a vinegar slaw guy. And a little more 00:30:09.069 --> 00:30:11.349 love it. I'm glad those guys are out there running 00:30:11.349 --> 00:30:12.910 around playing because I don't know who else 00:30:12.910 --> 00:30:14.710 I'd want to watch at this point. I'd like to 00:30:14.710 --> 00:30:18.509 see some Vahki. You want to see some Vahki? That's 00:30:18.509 --> 00:30:20.450 a good call. I'd like to see Vahki. I'd like 00:30:20.450 --> 00:30:22.970 to see some Vahki with my slaw. A little Vahki 00:30:22.970 --> 00:30:24.910 with your slaw. That sounds like an interesting 00:30:24.910 --> 00:30:28.009 dish. All right. Okay, Bill. Are we, have we 00:30:28.009 --> 00:30:30.710 wrapped her up? Done. What do you feel? All right, 00:30:30.809 --> 00:30:34.990 folks. Episode two. in the books. Go Lions. Maybe 00:30:34.990 --> 00:30:37.950 we'll touch on a fantasy angle or two as the 00:30:37.950 --> 00:30:39.990 preseason goes on. We're not going to touch on 00:30:39.990 --> 00:30:42.130 that yet. We're not going down that road quite 00:30:42.130 --> 00:30:44.589 yet, but we'll give you some thoughts eventually. 00:30:45.190 --> 00:30:47.930 We'll tickle it. We're not going to dive headfirst 00:30:47.930 --> 00:30:50.490 into fantasy, but we will tickle it where the 00:30:50.490 --> 00:30:52.690 Lions are concerned. And maybe against the teams 00:30:52.690 --> 00:30:54.470 they're going to play at times, we'll pick some 00:30:54.470 --> 00:30:56.599 people out that could have a big game. But this 00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.180 is it's not a fantasy podcast. At any rate, thanks 00:31:00.180 --> 00:31:03.440 for listening. Go Lions. Let's have a good second 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:04.140 preseason game.