WEBVTT 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:29.559 Welcome to the loyal and true podcast. This is 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:32.939 a podcast where we connect with hot lodge logger 00:00:32.939 --> 00:00:36.159 grads. I'm Shelby Kearns, class of 1993, and 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:39.700 I am coming to you from Washington, DC. Hey, 00:00:39.700 --> 00:00:43.320 everybody. I'm Cam Crane, class of 1988, talking 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:45.880 to you from the greater Nashville area. And we 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:48.640 are thrilled to have our dear friend on with 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:52.159 us today, Temple Anderson -Kinion, class of 1988. 00:00:52.299 --> 00:00:55.329 Hey, Temple, how are you doing? Hey. I'm great. 00:00:55.409 --> 00:00:58.210 I'm good. Thanks for having me. Thanks for joining 00:00:58.210 --> 00:01:01.149 us. Great to have you here. Hey, where are you 00:01:01.149 --> 00:01:03.090 right now? Where are you talking to us from? 00:01:03.689 --> 00:01:07.510 Literally, I'm in my office in my house in Lewiston, 00:01:07.510 --> 00:01:13.049 Idaho. Lewiston, right on. Fantastic. All right. 00:01:13.349 --> 00:01:16.430 All right. Uh, you know, so there's a whole notion, 00:01:16.430 --> 00:01:18.909 uh, about, you know, quote, being back. What 00:01:18.909 --> 00:01:22.409 is it like to be back if there is a back to be 00:01:22.409 --> 00:01:27.909 back to? Yeah, it's so I moved away in 2003 to 00:01:27.909 --> 00:01:32.370 Las Vegas and lived there for 21 years and came 00:01:32.370 --> 00:01:37.170 back last year It is funny because everybody 00:01:37.170 --> 00:01:40.510 says oh you're back. We didn't know you're back 00:01:40.510 --> 00:01:45.510 And I'm like, so I guess if you live in the greater 00:01:45.510 --> 00:01:48.209 Quad Cities area and the small town You know 00:01:48.209 --> 00:01:50.189 what? I mean if you're close and be able to go 00:01:50.189 --> 00:01:53.420 see your parents for Sunday dinner and then come 00:01:53.420 --> 00:01:55.340 home and fall asleep on the couch or something, 00:01:55.379 --> 00:01:59.000 that's back. You're close, right? So it's really 00:01:59.000 --> 00:02:03.019 cool to be back. Some things stay the same, which 00:02:03.019 --> 00:02:05.920 is very comforting because I like tradition. 00:02:06.140 --> 00:02:09.240 I like what to expect. But a lot of things are 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:12.740 very different about North Idaho and the Potlatch 00:02:12.740 --> 00:02:19.689 area, which is nice too. I like being back. close 00:02:19.689 --> 00:02:24.229 with my family and friends. Best friend from 00:02:24.229 --> 00:02:27.330 high school. Well, my lifetime best friend, Carla. 00:02:28.009 --> 00:02:32.469 Carla. Carla. We know she's listening. Yeah. 00:02:32.629 --> 00:02:34.530 Oh, she will now because I'll tell her. She's 00:02:34.530 --> 00:02:37.430 got to. She lives a few minutes for me. Literally. 00:02:38.009 --> 00:02:41.370 I didn't know she was in Lewiston. That's awesome. 00:02:41.909 --> 00:02:44.409 Yeah. Yeah. And there's a few other people down 00:02:44.409 --> 00:02:48.599 here too. So it's kind of fun. And you know who 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:51.539 your real friends and those solid people are 00:02:51.539 --> 00:02:57.259 because they're happy to see you. There's not 00:02:57.259 --> 00:02:59.500 very many people that are like, Oh, you're back. 00:03:00.500 --> 00:03:05.400 But, Oh, it's good to be at this point in my 00:03:05.400 --> 00:03:09.699 life back closer with family, especially parents. 00:03:11.180 --> 00:03:15.180 And 21 years away is no joke. Take us back to 00:03:15.180 --> 00:03:17.120 Vegas. I mean, tell us a little more about that 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:19.919 path, uh, that led you down to Vegas and what 00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:22.699 you were doing down there. Well, Vegas was not, 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:25.819 um, I was kind of wanted to leave the area, you 00:03:25.819 --> 00:03:29.680 know, the kid and, and, um, not that I didn't, 00:03:29.699 --> 00:03:31.780 I don't have anything against the area. I just 00:03:31.780 --> 00:03:34.879 wanted to branch out. Right. And I got, I went 00:03:34.879 --> 00:03:37.259 to college at the U of I's, Vandal, go Vandals. 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:42.780 Go Vandals. Go Vandals. Um, and, uh, got married 00:03:42.780 --> 00:03:46.520 and. He was more of a, I kind of want to stick 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:49.539 around. Like our family and our friends are here 00:03:49.539 --> 00:03:51.939 and we, you know, it's a great place. North Idaho 00:03:51.939 --> 00:03:54.479 is a great place, right? Where we grew up. It 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:58.919 was, it's lovely. And so, you know, you put the 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:02.620 work in and you, and you live your life. And 00:04:02.620 --> 00:04:06.139 I kind of was just like, dude, can we go somewhere? 00:04:06.219 --> 00:04:08.419 Like, can we, and I thought he would, because 00:04:08.419 --> 00:04:10.039 we lived in Genesee at the time, I thought he'd 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:11.960 be like, All right, how do you feel about living 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:14.039 in Lewiston? I mean, I thought that kind of a 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:17.339 move, right? And he's like, what do you think 00:04:17.339 --> 00:04:20.379 about Vegas? And I'm like, what, what, what Vegas? 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:22.779 Are you kidding? And he worked for Clearwater 00:04:22.779 --> 00:04:28.420 paper and they, um, AKA formerly potlatch. And, 00:04:28.420 --> 00:04:31.439 um, he was like, yeah, they're putting in a new 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:34.639 machine. There's already an existing plant down 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:37.040 there, but they're putting in a new paper machine. 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:39.500 And so he would have been, he was part of this. 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:43.519 We said yes and he was allowed to go. There was 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:45.980 probably about a half a dozen guys from Lewiston 00:04:45.980 --> 00:04:47.600 that were down there, but then everybody else 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:51.879 was from all over like Arkansas, Maine, all those 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:56.839 places. He helped commission that machine. That's 00:04:56.839 --> 00:05:02.720 how I ended up in Vegas. I worked for UNLV for 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:09.819 a while doing events. Then I was burnt out and 00:05:09.819 --> 00:05:12.420 I was like, maybe I want to pursue my writing. 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:16.100 I worked at Starbucks for a while and then just 00:05:16.100 --> 00:05:19.560 was doing my writing on the side. Eventually, 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:22.860 it evolved into being able to do a freelance 00:05:22.860 --> 00:05:27.259 career. That's what I did for the last about 00:05:27.259 --> 00:05:32.660 10 years in Vegas is freelance writing. It started 00:05:32.660 --> 00:05:35.420 out as we'll live in Vegas, we'll give up five 00:05:35.420 --> 00:05:38.939 years. And then we'll move back, you know, to 00:05:38.939 --> 00:05:42.540 the area, whatever. But life, life has other 00:05:42.540 --> 00:05:45.160 plans for you. And they're like, I mean, it's 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:47.519 like, no, we're going to go ahead and just completely 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:52.199 destroy the economy and make it so that you can't 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:56.519 move. So, yeah, survive that because our house 00:05:56.519 --> 00:05:58.779 was underwater and, you know, everybody can, 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:05.389 2008, 2009 mess. So, yeah. So my husband decided 00:06:05.389 --> 00:06:09.209 that he needed to retire and do something else. 00:06:09.589 --> 00:06:16.069 And so that's how we ended up back. I, I'm a 00:06:16.069 --> 00:06:18.930 huge fan of your writing career and I want to 00:06:18.930 --> 00:06:20.610 go back real quick. Cause I think, you know, 00:06:20.610 --> 00:06:22.589 you're just go vandals and then you had to go 00:06:22.589 --> 00:06:25.149 work for UNLV. So I just need to double click 00:06:25.149 --> 00:06:28.230 on that. Was that weird to be the lone vandal 00:06:28.230 --> 00:06:31.720 down there and rub on? Yeah. The, I remember 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:35.420 getting interviewed and they were like something, 00:06:35.420 --> 00:06:37.259 you know, they asked, well, why should we hire 00:06:37.259 --> 00:06:39.240 you? And I'm like, because why can't a Vandal 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:42.899 be a rebel? And I'm pretty sure that's a great 00:06:42.899 --> 00:06:46.240 line. I love that tagline. Hey, do you, do you 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:53.079 work in marketing? Maybe. Yeah. So yeah. Weird 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:55.699 because I didn't know their traditions and, and 00:06:55.699 --> 00:07:01.189 they're very young. university compared to the 00:07:01.189 --> 00:07:04.990 U of I or WSU, you know, the university, you 00:07:04.990 --> 00:07:07.750 know, we were around hundred and some years and 00:07:07.750 --> 00:07:10.050 they were like, we're celebrating our 50th. So 00:07:10.050 --> 00:07:13.009 it was a really interesting time to be working 00:07:13.009 --> 00:07:16.149 there because it was their anniversary, but it 00:07:16.149 --> 00:07:19.430 was, you know, they're young. And so they, they 00:07:19.430 --> 00:07:22.370 didn't have a lot of the same processes and systems 00:07:22.370 --> 00:07:25.329 in place, but not, they were a great university. 00:07:25.449 --> 00:07:28.790 So, I mean, it was just very different. But yeah, 00:07:29.089 --> 00:07:33.730 Idaho played down there. Um, but I wasn't working 00:07:33.730 --> 00:07:37.750 for UNLV at the time, but it was kind of interesting 00:07:37.750 --> 00:07:39.649 because I had some friends who were like, Oh, 00:07:39.889 --> 00:07:43.050 Rebels are going to beat the Vandals and actually 00:07:43.050 --> 00:07:50.769 we beat you, but yes. So good times. Yep. Higher 00:07:50.769 --> 00:07:53.569 education is a good place to be, but yeah, I 00:07:53.569 --> 00:07:56.360 work in the private sector now. So. It's really 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:58.740 exciting that you were able to pursue your writing 00:07:58.740 --> 00:08:03.339 and that part of your career too. I mean, that's 00:08:03.339 --> 00:08:05.199 such a different path than most people take. 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:09.040 Yeah, I didn't ever expect to be able to make 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:13.259 a living writing, but why not try? And I was 00:08:13.259 --> 00:08:19.259 in a really safe kind of lifestyle. My husband 00:08:19.259 --> 00:08:23.740 worked really hard and he made pretty good money 00:08:23.740 --> 00:08:27.899 in Vegas. I was sort of a penny pincher and was 00:08:27.899 --> 00:08:30.139 like, we're going to make this work. And so we 00:08:30.139 --> 00:08:35.500 were able to have me not have that definite salary 00:08:35.500 --> 00:08:39.620 every month that you could plan on. So that's 00:08:39.620 --> 00:08:41.860 kind of an exciting thing to live through is 00:08:41.860 --> 00:08:45.419 that kind of freelance thing. But I had such 00:08:45.419 --> 00:08:48.620 great opportunities in Las Vegas. There's a huge 00:08:48.620 --> 00:08:51.539 writing contingent down there as there might 00:08:51.539 --> 00:08:54.710 be in every town. I don't know, but I mean, there 00:08:54.710 --> 00:08:58.789 was writing groups and critique groups, and I 00:08:58.789 --> 00:09:02.649 mean, I had signings. I could do signings, you 00:09:02.649 --> 00:09:08.129 know, anytime. And I always wanted to be a writer. 00:09:08.149 --> 00:09:12.029 Like in high school, I remember those were in, 00:09:12.029 --> 00:09:14.649 you know, middle or I guess they don't call it, 00:09:14.649 --> 00:09:19.730 we called it junior high. I remember those being 00:09:19.730 --> 00:09:21.970 my favorite classes. This is the English classes 00:09:21.970 --> 00:09:25.779 where I could write. And those were very influential 00:09:25.779 --> 00:09:28.539 to me. And I finally got to go back and see if 00:09:28.539 --> 00:09:32.259 I could pursue it. So I did. And thanks to Cameron, 00:09:32.820 --> 00:09:36.419 ironically, that we're on this show together, 00:09:36.539 --> 00:09:38.899 he was the one that finally kicked me in the 00:09:38.899 --> 00:09:43.700 butt and got me to just decide to go for self 00:09:43.700 --> 00:09:46.299 -publishing my first book because nobody wanted 00:09:46.299 --> 00:09:48.899 it. And he's like, well, why can't you just do 00:09:48.899 --> 00:09:52.460 it yourself? And I don't know. That day we talked. 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:55.340 And I think I called you or you called me. I 00:09:55.340 --> 00:09:57.279 can't remember. I think you called me and you 00:09:57.279 --> 00:09:59.500 were like, what's up? I'm checking in on you. 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:05.019 Yeah. And I was a mess. I know that's such a 00:10:05.019 --> 00:10:07.299 cam thing, right? What's going on? How can I 00:10:07.299 --> 00:10:11.720 let fire into your ass today? And totally did. 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:14.620 It was the right words at the right time. And 00:10:14.620 --> 00:10:17.019 I was like, he's right. So, you know, I self 00:10:17.019 --> 00:10:20.200 -published and then that's kind of where everything 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:29.399 took off. No, please tell us more. Yeah. Um, 00:10:29.580 --> 00:10:32.620 that first book was, um, just, you know, a book 00:10:32.620 --> 00:10:34.620 that was in my head and I just wanted to get 00:10:34.620 --> 00:10:37.740 it out. It, you know, it's a, it's a fiction, 00:10:37.740 --> 00:10:41.820 um, kind of middle grade. I mean, anybody could 00:10:41.820 --> 00:10:46.480 read it. Most of my fans are, you know, my parents 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:48.820 and my friends and family, but I'm very happy 00:10:48.820 --> 00:10:56.000 because. They got the word out too. It's about 00:10:56.000 --> 00:11:01.620 buttons that take this boy on a journey to learn 00:11:01.620 --> 00:11:06.440 about his family history. He uses them to save 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:12.279 his grandma when she's ill. It's a great story 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:17.210 and I didn't come up with it. It was a conversation 00:11:17.210 --> 00:11:19.549 I had with my mother -in -law and that was the 00:11:19.549 --> 00:11:24.350 spark to the story. It takes the village sometimes 00:11:24.350 --> 00:11:27.429 to make a good story and so that's how it started. 00:11:28.450 --> 00:11:31.370 I had lots of opportunities. I joined a couple 00:11:31.370 --> 00:11:34.710 of groups and I did signings. The best signings 00:11:34.710 --> 00:11:38.029 are when you get invited to go to a middle school 00:11:38.029 --> 00:11:44.100 or a grade school. how you can write and how 00:11:44.100 --> 00:11:48.480 you can publish your own book. Those were the 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:52.360 best. That was what I did it for, is to be able 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:55.899 to inspire. I don't know if I ever did, but they 00:11:55.899 --> 00:11:58.460 were great for me. They were the best events, 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:01.639 were the signings that involved kids and the 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:07.519 talks. Then that just parlayed into, I have a 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:11.399 writing gig with Home and Harvest magazine, published 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:16.759 out of Moscow and Moscow, Idaho. And, um, I, 00:12:16.899 --> 00:12:19.299 that's a bi -monthly and I just, yeah, I mean, 00:12:19.299 --> 00:12:21.879 it's a great opportunity. It's like where I just 00:12:21.879 --> 00:12:25.580 sort of release these stories. And, um, I think 00:12:25.580 --> 00:12:28.940 I'll have a book out of those stories. I bet 00:12:28.940 --> 00:12:33.299 you will. Yeah. I have a, I have an ongoing series 00:12:33.299 --> 00:12:36.320 about a kid farm kid from the seventies. Geez. 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:39.559 Does that sound familiar? Shout out farm kids. 00:12:40.490 --> 00:12:43.929 Yeah, from the 70s. From the 70s. The best farm 00:12:43.929 --> 00:12:47.029 kids are from the 70s. There you go. People with 00:12:47.029 --> 00:12:49.289 the trouble we got into, I mean, and it wasn't 00:12:49.289 --> 00:12:52.789 really trouble, you know? So, yeah, so his name 00:12:52.789 --> 00:12:58.250 is Otis, so I'm hopefully - Otis. Otis. Yeah. 00:12:59.090 --> 00:13:03.210 And then I had an opportunity to write with, 00:13:04.269 --> 00:13:07.250 to co -author with the University of Idaho president, 00:13:07.710 --> 00:13:11.509 Scott Green. That was a complete shift because 00:13:11.509 --> 00:13:16.710 I was writing for younger audiences and fiction 00:13:16.710 --> 00:13:21.250 and fun. It's like, would you like to co -author 00:13:21.250 --> 00:13:24.070 a book with me about budgets and spending? I'm 00:13:24.070 --> 00:13:26.629 like, sure, whatever. It's Shelby's world right 00:13:26.629 --> 00:13:29.610 there. I think that's very fun. I don't know 00:13:29.610 --> 00:13:33.210 what you're talking about. It's very fun. It 00:13:33.210 --> 00:13:36.070 is. Once I got into it, I was like, this is fascinating 00:13:36.070 --> 00:13:38.549 because I am a words person, not a numbers person. 00:13:39.250 --> 00:13:42.129 I had to talk to a lot of people a lot of times 00:13:42.129 --> 00:13:45.009 to get it to click in my head, but thankfully 00:13:45.009 --> 00:13:47.909 everybody was very supportive on that piece. 00:13:48.909 --> 00:13:52.129 I'd known him. I worked at the U of I at the 00:13:52.129 --> 00:13:56.110 alumni office before we moved to Vegas. and did 00:13:56.110 --> 00:13:58.870 events and he was living in New York at the time. 00:13:58.970 --> 00:14:01.590 So that's how I met him was like 20 years before 00:14:01.590 --> 00:14:04.730 he became, well, okay, maybe not that many years. 00:14:05.289 --> 00:14:08.450 I'm not that old, but maybe like 10, 15 years 00:14:08.450 --> 00:14:12.210 before he became president. So we've known each 00:14:12.210 --> 00:14:17.429 other and why he picked me, I think he just knew 00:14:17.429 --> 00:14:28.659 my writing style and trusted me. I'm sure trust 00:14:28.659 --> 00:14:30.759 had a lot to do with that temple. And look, you'd 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:32.879 put yourself out there. You know, you put button 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:36.019 boxes out there and, and I'm sure that was a 00:14:36.019 --> 00:14:40.559 validator as well. Yeah. No, you did it. You 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:42.139 did. I just need to give you a little encouragement. 00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:45.100 You know, that's all. That's what it takes. I 00:14:45.100 --> 00:14:48.259 think sometimes is somebody just to say, it's 00:14:48.259 --> 00:14:51.139 a great story temple. Do it. Yeah, just do it. 00:14:51.320 --> 00:14:56.100 Just do it. So when you think about that and 00:14:56.100 --> 00:15:00.159 both what you've done, but also how you had the 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:02.840 guts to do that, was there anything from your 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:05.320 years in Potlatch or at Potlatch High School 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:11.320 that really influenced that success? I think, 00:15:12.379 --> 00:15:15.340 yeah, I mean, when you look, of course, I went 00:15:15.340 --> 00:15:18.179 to school in Potlatch all 12 years. They didn't 00:15:18.179 --> 00:15:20.000 have kindergarten when I was there. Otherwise, 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:23.679 I would have gone to kindergarten. Um, I, I, 00:15:23.740 --> 00:15:26.080 but just kind of zeroing in on our high school 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:32.899 years, that was a great time for us to be kids, 00:15:32.899 --> 00:15:37.620 but also young adults, you know, you're that 00:15:37.620 --> 00:15:41.039 cool in between time. It's really hard, I think, 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:43.620 but it's, it's a cool, but in between time where 00:15:43.620 --> 00:15:46.440 you can, you can test the waters and you can 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:48.940 see, gee, do I look, do I like this class? Do 00:15:48.940 --> 00:15:51.500 I like math? Do I like science? Do I like English? 00:15:52.210 --> 00:15:56.590 And, you know, you test the waters and, you know, 00:15:56.690 --> 00:15:58.889 yeah, we're all graded and everything and that 00:15:58.889 --> 00:16:01.750 plays into a lot of it. But I think you finally 00:16:01.750 --> 00:16:05.549 kind of decide, geez, I really am not fond of 00:16:05.549 --> 00:16:08.409 math because I'm not very good at it. So I'm 00:16:08.409 --> 00:16:11.470 not going to do that probably for a living, but 00:16:11.470 --> 00:16:14.190 I really like writing and maybe there's something 00:16:14.190 --> 00:16:17.610 to do with, you know, with writing. And I had 00:16:17.610 --> 00:16:21.669 great teachers. I mean, I loved, I liked school. 00:16:21.870 --> 00:16:25.230 I was not good at certain things, but I had great 00:16:25.230 --> 00:16:30.990 teachers, right? And so to name a few, Mrs. Jacqueline 00:16:30.990 --> 00:16:36.610 Height, she was our in Leon, and then Mike Barrett. 00:16:38.110 --> 00:16:41.409 And they, you know, they incurred, they were, 00:16:41.409 --> 00:16:43.370 you know, they were teachers, they had to grade 00:16:43.370 --> 00:16:46.870 you and, and critique you. And, you know, sometimes 00:16:46.870 --> 00:16:49.549 it was rough, you'd get that. paperback and there 00:16:49.549 --> 00:16:51.710 was like red pen, it looked like a murder scene 00:16:51.710 --> 00:16:56.629 all over your paper, right? But it was a fairly 00:16:56.629 --> 00:16:58.970 safe environment to learn whether you really 00:16:58.970 --> 00:17:01.350 wanted to do that. And I did, I loved writing. 00:17:02.370 --> 00:17:04.829 But I didn't ever think I could make a living 00:17:04.829 --> 00:17:09.730 off of it. And so I was more of a communications 00:17:09.730 --> 00:17:14.740 major in college and became an event planner 00:17:14.740 --> 00:17:17.579 and, you know, did little writing things on the 00:17:17.579 --> 00:17:21.980 side, but nothing major. So, um, I don't know 00:17:21.980 --> 00:17:26.119 if I, cause I was a pretty timid person back 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:28.900 then. I didn't have a lot of, yeah, I'm going 00:17:28.900 --> 00:17:32.519 to do this. I didn't eat. I was like, I'm just 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:35.440 going to lay low, fly under the radar and not 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:39.039 be on anyone's radar, you know? But in high school 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:41.819 you had a lot of agency, I would say. agency, 00:17:41.900 --> 00:17:43.680 like you, you would stand up for yourself and 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:46.059 you were, you were a great student. I think you're 00:17:46.059 --> 00:17:48.160 selling yourself a little short. There was that 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:51.240 top tier in our class of those, those that you 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:53.259 were up there. And I was like, wow, look at, 00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:55.160 look at them go. Cause you, you took it seriously. 00:17:55.700 --> 00:17:58.160 And, you know, actually a whole group of us did 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:00.380 in different areas, looking, looking back at 00:18:00.380 --> 00:18:03.779 that. Uh, and the two, the combination of, uh, 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:05.819 heightened variant was, was a very different 00:18:05.819 --> 00:18:08.259 and cool combo. If you look at it that way, her 00:18:08.259 --> 00:18:11.680 style compared to his style. Yeah, very different, 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:15.220 very different. But that's kind of, yeah, I, 00:18:15.220 --> 00:18:18.759 I feel like she, she was more on the creative, 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:21.759 you know, let it kind of fly. Let's see how this 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:24.059 works. Yeah, we got to worry about grammar and 00:18:24.059 --> 00:18:26.619 the mechanics of it. And yeah, I'll check you 00:18:26.619 --> 00:18:28.579 on that, but let's, you know, let's let your 00:18:28.579 --> 00:18:31.940 imagination go or. Yeah, but don't worry so much 00:18:31.940 --> 00:18:33.700 about if it makes sense. I remember her telling 00:18:33.700 --> 00:18:35.400 me that once. And I just, I think it was the 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:36.960 first short story that I'd written in a long 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:38.670 time at that point. I was like, okay, fine. I'll 00:18:38.670 --> 00:18:42.089 just like make stuff up. Fine. And then, and 00:18:42.089 --> 00:18:44.410 I did, and then she was like, that was really 00:18:44.410 --> 00:18:47.769 good. I was like, what? Like they almost tell 00:18:47.769 --> 00:18:49.990 you not to think about it. Yeah. Like you just 00:18:49.990 --> 00:18:53.589 infect stuff and that's okay. Okay. Wow. Yeah, 00:18:54.309 --> 00:18:56.349 it is. I've always thought it's hard. You know, 00:18:56.349 --> 00:18:58.430 we come from this little town and, you know, 00:18:58.529 --> 00:19:00.710 growing up on a farm, you don't see people making 00:19:00.710 --> 00:19:03.289 a living by writing or doing other things. It's 00:19:03.289 --> 00:19:05.049 hard to know until you get out and you can kind 00:19:05.049 --> 00:19:08.349 of see what those paths maybe are. um, different 00:19:08.349 --> 00:19:10.809 ways that, you know, that you can use those skills 00:19:10.809 --> 00:19:14.049 and, and do things you enjoy. But it's hard when 00:19:14.049 --> 00:19:18.710 you, you know, mostly, you know, see, you know, 00:19:18.910 --> 00:19:22.569 other farmers or what have you. Yeah. And I think 00:19:22.569 --> 00:19:26.210 growing up in a small town, you, um, you know, 00:19:26.589 --> 00:19:31.500 I, I, I loved it. I had, I have very fond memories 00:19:31.500 --> 00:19:34.740 and, and, you know, with my family farming, but 00:19:34.740 --> 00:19:38.839 also at PHS and in grade school, whatever that, 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:41.180 you know, college is a great town. It's a very 00:19:41.180 --> 00:19:44.700 community oriented town. And I have very few, 00:19:44.700 --> 00:19:47.539 um, like where I was like, yeah, I remember this 00:19:47.539 --> 00:19:50.559 time it was kind of tough, but those are, those 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:53.160 tend to be memories that I think everybody has 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:56.000 as adolescents, you know, like bullying and. 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:59.500 and just not feeling self -confident about your 00:19:59.500 --> 00:20:01.720 - I mean, I think that's pretty typical for that 00:20:01.720 --> 00:20:04.440 age, no matter where you live. But I had a friend 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:06.819 one time and we were talking about growing up 00:20:06.819 --> 00:20:08.619 in a small town. She grew up in a small town 00:20:08.619 --> 00:20:12.279 in the Midwest and probably even smaller than 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:16.619 Potlatch. She's like the one thing I love and 00:20:16.619 --> 00:20:21.119 always took away from being in a small town was 00:20:21.119 --> 00:20:23.519 that you could be a big deal on a small town 00:20:23.519 --> 00:20:27.410 because everybody knew you. And, you know, some 00:20:27.410 --> 00:20:30.509 of us are like, well, that that was good most 00:20:30.509 --> 00:20:32.890 of the time, unless I was doing something I wasn't 00:20:32.890 --> 00:20:35.130 supposed to be doing, which was never me, of 00:20:35.130 --> 00:20:37.849 course. But it would get off your parents before 00:20:37.849 --> 00:20:41.910 you did. Right. You don't know either because 00:20:41.910 --> 00:20:43.609 you were always doing stuff you were supposed 00:20:43.609 --> 00:20:47.349 to be doing. But, you know, but you kind of you 00:20:47.349 --> 00:20:51.130 have that opportunity. At least you could be 00:20:51.130 --> 00:20:54.319 in sports. You could be. You could be in music. 00:20:54.380 --> 00:20:57.819 You could be a cheerleader. You could be a stack 00:20:57.819 --> 00:21:00.539 keeper. You could be all these great things. 00:21:00.859 --> 00:21:04.720 And you were somebody. You were somebody that 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:10.119 the community recognized. And I like that thought 00:21:10.119 --> 00:21:13.240 about, you know, you could sort of like test 00:21:13.240 --> 00:21:19.299 the waters and get to be in the spotlight if 00:21:19.299 --> 00:21:23.700 you wanted to be. in a small town. And so I guess, 00:21:24.759 --> 00:21:26.799 I don't know, there were a lot of years in there. 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:28.799 I just was like, I'm not going to be able to 00:21:28.799 --> 00:21:30.980 do this. Like I don't, I didn't have a lot of 00:21:30.980 --> 00:21:33.640 self -confidence. It's that imposter syndrome 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:37.859 thing. I think we all have sometimes at one time 00:21:37.859 --> 00:21:42.960 or another. But the more I was into it and people 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:45.980 like Cameron, who was like, Temple, just do it. 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:49.839 What have you got to lose? Then I think that 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:54.400 kind of made me realize, yeah, I was like, I've 00:21:54.400 --> 00:21:56.839 wanted to do this my whole life, so why not? 00:21:57.779 --> 00:22:01.059 And that, you know, I think that starts back 00:22:01.059 --> 00:22:04.619 in those years, you know? It is kind of, it's 00:22:04.619 --> 00:22:08.000 interesting. One of the things that I also took 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:09.599 away from being from a small town is you can 00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:11.599 do all of the things, right? I talked to people 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:13.519 from, you know, so many friends who went to bigger 00:22:13.519 --> 00:22:15.960 schools and you really had to concentrate on 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:18.539 one thing, like you could be in the band or you 00:22:18.539 --> 00:22:21.049 could... you know, play volleyball, but you couldn't 00:22:21.049 --> 00:22:23.910 do everything. And in politics, you could, you 00:22:23.910 --> 00:22:25.109 know, we kind of mentioned this earlier, you 00:22:25.109 --> 00:22:27.329 could do all of it and you could see what you 00:22:27.329 --> 00:22:29.769 liked and you could try different things. And 00:22:29.769 --> 00:22:33.950 I think that is a big, a big advantage, too, 00:22:33.950 --> 00:22:35.670 of just trying all those things. But then sometimes 00:22:35.670 --> 00:22:38.269 when you leave and you go out into this big world, 00:22:38.750 --> 00:22:40.349 then that imposter strip hits because you're 00:22:40.349 --> 00:22:43.289 like, well, I didn't just concentrate on this 00:22:43.289 --> 00:22:45.029 one thing or I don't have this background or 00:22:45.029 --> 00:22:47.730 we didn't have that class or whatever it is. 00:22:48.259 --> 00:22:51.400 So it's really cool then seeing people like you 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:53.039 who have made a living with their writing and 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:55.259 who have done these things and then you know 00:22:55.259 --> 00:22:57.420 that you can do it you can come from the small 00:22:57.420 --> 00:23:00.000 town and maybe we didn't have the most advanced 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:03.539 class or the Writers group or you know all these 00:23:03.539 --> 00:23:05.099 things that you talk to people from bigger schools 00:23:05.099 --> 00:23:07.680 that they did and I think that's really cool 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.240 Yeah, I do too. And that's a great point. We 00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:13.000 were allowed to just do whatever and there was 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:16.180 people who did things like they'd go do one thing 00:23:16.180 --> 00:23:18.869 and then they You know, like I was in drill team 00:23:18.869 --> 00:23:21.809 and a cheerleader. So five minutes before the 00:23:21.809 --> 00:23:24.529 end of the second quarter, you'd race under the 00:23:24.529 --> 00:23:28.390 bleachers and into Mr. Heinz's room science room 00:23:28.390 --> 00:23:31.690 and change into your drill team costume and go 00:23:31.690 --> 00:23:34.690 do the thing and then race back and get your 00:23:34.690 --> 00:23:37.769 cheerleader uniform on and race back out. And 00:23:37.769 --> 00:23:41.769 it was just like nobody thought anything about 00:23:41.769 --> 00:23:45.369 that at all, including us. It was just allowed 00:23:45.369 --> 00:23:48.200 to we were allowed to do what we wanted. And 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:53.579 I think that that is a great foundation for what 00:23:53.579 --> 00:23:56.700 you can do later in life with that. That is very 00:23:56.700 --> 00:23:59.380 helpful. Is this in real memory or did this not 00:23:59.380 --> 00:24:02.039 happen? But I feel like the basketball players, 00:24:02.779 --> 00:24:04.700 like you'd be having a basketball game and maybe 00:24:04.700 --> 00:24:06.960 if you're on varsity, you would play in the band 00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:08.779 during the JV game if they played or whatever. 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:10.779 But if you were on the JV team, you would definitely, 00:24:10.980 --> 00:24:13.299 then you'd... You know, shower, put your clothes 00:24:13.299 --> 00:24:15.559 on and go play in the band for the varsity game. 00:24:16.339 --> 00:24:18.539 Yeah. That was a real thank show. Absolutely. 00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:20.279 That happens in a big school. I don't think you 00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:21.980 get to do that. You wouldn't have that opportunity. 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:24.779 No. And part of it was they just needed us. You 00:24:24.779 --> 00:24:27.339 know, I remember even having that opportunity 00:24:27.339 --> 00:24:29.579 in eighth grade when we were in the, like you 00:24:29.579 --> 00:24:31.299 said, Temple, the junior high, getting to go 00:24:31.299 --> 00:24:33.359 up and play in the pep band with the high school 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:36.880 kids. Oh yeah. That was so fun. To go to state 00:24:36.880 --> 00:24:39.400 or go to districts first and then, and you know, 00:24:39.500 --> 00:24:42.420 be so rowdy and have a blast. And then go up 00:24:42.420 --> 00:24:46.319 later? Yeah. Fantastic experience. I wanted to 00:24:46.319 --> 00:24:49.420 do it. Like you wanted to be part of not just 00:24:49.420 --> 00:24:52.440 your class, you know, you wanted to be part of 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:55.799 that, that high school community. You wanted 00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:59.740 to be part of, of what was going on in town. 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.079 And not that there wasn't other stuff happening, 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:05.180 but let's face it, if there was a basketball 00:25:05.180 --> 00:25:08.930 game or a football game. That was the thing that 00:25:08.930 --> 00:25:13.089 was going on for the most part in town and a 00:25:13.089 --> 00:25:15.329 lot of people were there not everybody but I 00:25:15.329 --> 00:25:18.710 mean a lot of people were there and You wanted 00:25:18.710 --> 00:25:22.190 to be part of the excitement. I mean I did I 00:25:22.190 --> 00:25:24.529 didn't want to sit at home I wanted to be out 00:25:24.529 --> 00:25:27.269 with my out doing what my friends were doing 00:25:27.269 --> 00:25:30.890 and and Just being part of that community and 00:25:30.890 --> 00:25:34.670 it's funny when I lived in Las Vegas There were 00:25:34.670 --> 00:25:37.410 very few people I met that were born and raised 00:25:37.410 --> 00:25:41.750 there because it's such a, you know, come in, 00:25:41.769 --> 00:25:46.769 come out, do whatever town. Um, and there was 00:25:46.769 --> 00:25:49.589 very little sense of community. They didn't have 00:25:49.589 --> 00:25:52.930 any kind of community day. I mean, they had sort 00:25:52.930 --> 00:25:55.049 of celebrations and stuff like that. They could 00:25:55.049 --> 00:25:57.289 have gone to the parade or whatever, but it wasn't 00:25:57.289 --> 00:26:01.470 like small town celebrations are. And it wasn't 00:26:01.470 --> 00:26:05.200 like, um, you went to the grocery store and you'd 00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:08.220 run into your teacher, or you know what I mean? 00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:12.460 So it really, as I've grown older, I'm like, 00:26:12.460 --> 00:26:15.200 that was what made it magic, was that there was 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.700 that beautiful sense of community. And it was 00:26:18.700 --> 00:26:22.640 the potlatch community, but I don't know, I think 00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:25.079 we all had fun in high school, not just with 00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:28.839 our class. Like you knew everybody three or four 00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:30.720 years ahead of you and three or four years behind 00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:34.059 you, right? And that was your, that was your 00:26:34.059 --> 00:26:37.380 community. And I, you know, I don't know if a 00:26:37.380 --> 00:26:39.299 lot of people had that, especially with bigger 00:26:39.299 --> 00:26:44.799 classes, you know, one of 500 kids in your freshman 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:48.319 class, you know, that's just a very different 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:54.720 experience. So I'm really very thankful that 00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:58.059 I had that. And growing up on a farm and just 00:26:58.059 --> 00:27:02.220 a logging community, you know, those two types 00:27:02.220 --> 00:27:06.000 of lifestyles, which are very important to our 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:08.640 society. And I just, yeah, I mean, Paulette was 00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:11.640 just a great place to grow up. And that sense 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:13.960 of community too. I mean, no one, no one is more 00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:15.900 generous in a time of need than people in a small 00:27:15.900 --> 00:27:19.160 town taking care of their own. And, you know, 00:27:19.180 --> 00:27:21.519 I think that's also very, very inspiring. It 00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:23.960 was a great way to grow up and teach that community. 00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:26.819 You know, that sort of, you help other people. 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:28.599 You help other people. Somebody's broken down 00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:31.299 on the side of the road. You pull over and. Help 00:27:31.299 --> 00:27:35.160 them. Right. Yeah. And you said, how can, okay, 00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:36.799 where, where do you live? Do you need a ride? 00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:38.079 Do you need a flight? You know, we can help you 00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:40.180 with the flat and other people would pull over 00:27:40.180 --> 00:27:42.599 too. Oh, you know, and that was just the way 00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.619 it was. Yeah. And if he had like a fire in the 00:27:45.619 --> 00:27:47.960 field, everybody dropped everything. Oh, everybody. 00:27:48.059 --> 00:27:50.859 Can you see the smoke and just go run? Yeah. 00:27:51.660 --> 00:27:54.799 Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm, I don't, I've only lived 00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:57.319 a few places, right? So I'm sure there's people 00:27:57.319 --> 00:27:58.839 who live in other areas that are like, well, 00:27:58.900 --> 00:28:01.720 yeah, we had that too, but. I don't know any, 00:28:01.900 --> 00:28:04.200 you know, I don't know any other experience. 00:28:04.380 --> 00:28:09.259 And so I'm glad I had that experience. And it 00:28:09.259 --> 00:28:11.619 is, it's like, it didn't matter what we were 00:28:11.619 --> 00:28:14.819 involved with. If we were doing a car wash to 00:28:14.819 --> 00:28:18.440 raise funds for cheerleading uniforms, or we 00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:22.559 were selling calendar ads for Junior Miss or 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:25.740 whatever it was. You know, everybody pitched 00:28:25.740 --> 00:28:30.599 in and ported, you know, the kids. You know, 00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.460 it's all for the kids all for the kids I forgot 00:28:33.460 --> 00:28:35.500 about those junior miss calendars because then 00:28:35.500 --> 00:28:38.640 we also knew anybody's birthday like birthdays 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:41.579 and I remember that I remember like every morning 00:28:41.579 --> 00:28:44.099 I thought my mom still has that calendar and 00:28:44.099 --> 00:28:47.920 every morning looking at it And see whose birthday 00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:51.500 it was. Yeah It was pretty Facebook pre -internet. 00:28:51.500 --> 00:28:54.299 You got to have yeah. Yeah, it was we were we 00:28:54.299 --> 00:28:56.660 were way ahead of that Facebook birthday notification 00:28:56.660 --> 00:28:58.640 thing and There are still people's birthdays 00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:02.960 that I know because I looked them up on that 00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:04.880 calendar. And you'd go through, I remember going 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:06.779 through like, oh, I want to find out when so 00:29:06.779 --> 00:29:08.960 -and -so's birthday, just like reading all the 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:11.660 names of everyone in town to find, you know, 00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:13.660 like when's Temple's birthday, which is in October, 00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:15.240 I think, because I looked it up on the calendar 00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:17.700 when I was a kid, right? Look at that. Look at 00:29:17.700 --> 00:29:22.099 the recall. Oh my god, it's hilarious. I remember 00:29:22.099 --> 00:29:23.740 looking it up when you were a cheerleader and 00:29:23.740 --> 00:29:25.539 I was in junior high, like, oh, I got to know 00:29:25.539 --> 00:29:27.880 one. I was probably, you've always been good 00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:29.799 at that and you've carried through with that. 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.240 I don't know. I think, yeah, that sounds a little 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:33.680 stockish now that I've told temple that, but 00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.000 whatever, you know, here we are honored. I had 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:40.119 no idea. No, that's true. Or you'd like have 00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:42.339 a crush on somebody and be like, when's when's 00:29:42.339 --> 00:29:44.980 the, oh yeah. When's your birthday? And it, and 00:29:44.980 --> 00:29:46.759 man, if I'm lucky, I'll see him at the locker 00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:51.480 and go, happy birthday. And okay. Oh, that's 00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:53.259 crazy. You'd never tell. You'd never tell that 00:29:53.259 --> 00:29:56.250 you looked it up and you knew that's crazy. Crazy 00:29:56.250 --> 00:29:59.710 talk, Temple. You never did that. But, I mean, 00:30:00.150 --> 00:30:04.990 I can let the secrets out now. Is it still happening? 00:30:05.089 --> 00:30:07.069 That's what I want to know. Is the calendar up? 00:30:07.509 --> 00:30:10.230 I don't know. Isn't that terrible? I don't know, 00:30:10.230 --> 00:30:12.109 but I'm absolutely texting my mom the second 00:30:12.109 --> 00:30:14.710 we're done and asking her. Gotta find out. Yeah, 00:30:14.710 --> 00:30:18.069 gotta do. If it is, we gotta talk to these wonderful 00:30:18.069 --> 00:30:20.210 people doing the calendar still. Yeah, we need 00:30:20.210 --> 00:30:21.950 to know. We need to know. We can give people 00:30:21.950 --> 00:30:23.410 some birthday shout -outs. I'm gonna find one 00:30:23.410 --> 00:30:26.500 of those. It would be a really cool thing if 00:30:26.500 --> 00:30:29.220 they were still doing it. Seriously. Is my birthday 00:30:29.220 --> 00:30:31.900 still on that calendar? Somewhere it is. Buy 00:30:31.900 --> 00:30:34.539 it. Do they always take them off? If somebody, 00:30:34.779 --> 00:30:37.720 yeah, I think you pay for, I don't know. That's 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:39.900 a good question of how long the rotation stays. 00:30:41.420 --> 00:30:44.240 I think you pay, and then the people that were 00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:46.460 around the picture of the Junior Miss, you know, 00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:48.880 there was, wasn't there, maybe there wasn't - 00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:50.740 Sponsors. Yeah, I think there were like - There 00:30:50.740 --> 00:30:53.380 was the sponsors. Like Floyd's would be on there 00:30:53.380 --> 00:30:55.599 and and Bennett's and like all the businesses 00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:58.180 would buy like a little box I don't also use 00:30:58.180 --> 00:30:59.599 it in my hands. I don't know that that makes 00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:05.180 any Like Huh pretty obsessed with this counter 00:31:05.180 --> 00:31:07.339 or did Facebook just make that not a thing because 00:31:07.339 --> 00:31:11.299 everybody I don't know. No, you're gonna have 00:31:11.299 --> 00:31:14.559 to do some research into this The listeners are 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.400 gonna want to know so we're gonna get back and 00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:19.019 yeah when listeners want to know you're right. 00:31:19.539 --> 00:31:22.769 Yes You know, I don't want to let, I don't want 00:31:22.769 --> 00:31:25.049 to let the public down. I'm going to find out. 00:31:25.450 --> 00:31:27.190 Pretty sure you've got some serious listeners 00:31:27.190 --> 00:31:30.029 out there. So, um, yeah, they're going to want 00:31:30.029 --> 00:31:36.329 to know. They are all of our mothers. Tiffle, 00:31:36.509 --> 00:31:37.950 do you ever get - Mom, text me or tell me if 00:31:37.950 --> 00:31:43.089 you have that calendar. Tiffle, do you ever get 00:31:43.089 --> 00:31:45.369 nostalgic about what was in our parking lot? 00:31:46.250 --> 00:31:47.910 We discussed this, Shove and I were discussing 00:31:47.910 --> 00:31:50.069 this the other day, uh, when we were in high 00:31:50.069 --> 00:31:52.279 school. You know, the different kind of cars. 00:31:53.019 --> 00:31:56.500 Oh, oh, oh, oh my God. You had the coolest car. 00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:03.059 I had five Ford Falcon, which was my dad's. And 00:32:03.059 --> 00:32:05.420 he, they painted it John Deere yellow, which 00:32:05.420 --> 00:32:07.140 you would think would be really bright yellow, 00:32:07.180 --> 00:32:10.720 but it was that pale yellow. I don't know why 00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:12.779 he called it John Deere yellow. Cause it wasn't 00:32:12.779 --> 00:32:15.680 bright. He chose the minor color, not the John 00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:17.849 Deere green. Yeah, not John Deere green. There's 00:32:17.849 --> 00:32:20.049 a lot about him. He, he went, he went for the 00:32:20.049 --> 00:32:24.069 complimentary color. He driving in with the green. 00:32:24.150 --> 00:32:25.910 He went for the more feminine color, I think 00:32:25.910 --> 00:32:27.869 is what he was. Yeah, maybe that's what he was 00:32:27.869 --> 00:32:31.690 doing. My dad got that car from his grandpa. 00:32:32.150 --> 00:32:38.789 Uh, so it would be Paul Anderson senior and for 00:32:38.789 --> 00:32:40.890 doing some work. Dad did some accounting work 00:32:40.890 --> 00:32:43.490 for him, I think is how the story goes. So he 00:32:43.490 --> 00:32:45.269 gave him a car. So there might've been more to 00:32:45.269 --> 00:32:49.700 it. I don't know. My sister drove it, my brother 00:32:49.700 --> 00:32:53.400 drove it, my dad fixed it back up, then I drove 00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:57.519 it. It was a great car. It could go anywhere. 00:32:58.819 --> 00:33:05.140 If it made clearance, it can go. It was a great 00:33:05.140 --> 00:33:09.740 car. You didn't thrash it or anything, but you 00:33:09.740 --> 00:33:11.859 didn't feel bad if you were driving back roads 00:33:11.859 --> 00:33:14.559 on the weekends with your friend. You didn't 00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:18.579 feel bad about that. Uh, cause it was, it was, 00:33:18.579 --> 00:33:21.900 you know, it was well love. Yeah. First time 00:33:21.900 --> 00:33:25.420 I got pulled over, I was in the Falcon. Oh, was 00:33:25.420 --> 00:33:28.240 it in Potlatch? You got pulled over? The baseball 00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:31.339 team drove by and laughed at me. Of course. Of 00:33:31.339 --> 00:33:33.160 course. You could never get pulled over without 00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:35.059 somebody. This is, this was, you were, you kind 00:33:35.059 --> 00:33:36.980 of mentioned the downside of the small town and 00:33:36.980 --> 00:33:39.779 everybody knowing you. It was that. I, I spent 00:33:39.779 --> 00:33:43.019 a lot of time being pulled over and having people 00:33:43.019 --> 00:33:46.359 drive by and of course going. Before I got home. 00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:48.359 They have a lot of time being pulled over. I 00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:50.980 only got pulled over once. Just that one time. 00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:55.779 I liked to drive fast. Oh, I wasn't speaking. 00:33:56.039 --> 00:34:01.420 My tags were my tags, my dad's tags. And I got 00:34:01.420 --> 00:34:05.960 home and I was hot. And he was like, well, what's 00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:08.619 up with you? And I was like, I got pulled over. 00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:10.380 And he's like, what were you doing? And I'm like, 00:34:10.420 --> 00:34:12.679 it wasn't me. It was you. And you didn't get 00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:17.239 the tags renewed on the car. He was like, it 00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:22.420 was a very humbling experience because seriously, 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.840 I had just gotten my license and the dad was 00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:28.260 like, you can take the Falcon. So it probably 00:34:28.260 --> 00:34:30.980 hadn't been driven maybe. So that's why the, 00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:34.639 Oh, and yeah. Wasn't thinking about it. Wasn't 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.860 thinking about it. And I'm driving home thinking 00:34:36.860 --> 00:34:40.400 I'm just the hottest. Cause I'm by myself driving 00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:45.340 and I got pulled over. So that tells you. The 00:34:45.340 --> 00:34:49.099 internet may have had competition back in the 00:34:49.099 --> 00:34:52.139 eighties on speed, getting information to people 00:34:52.139 --> 00:34:54.360 because I literally had been pulled over and 00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:58.019 within five minutes, probably not even that. 00:34:58.579 --> 00:35:00.739 Here comes a whole pickup load of the baseball 00:35:00.739 --> 00:35:05.400 team. Laughing. You know, it's a, you're right. 00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:07.860 I wasn't laughing. I hope I wasn't in that. You 00:35:07.860 --> 00:35:13.139 were with them. Baseball player. Cameron, don't 00:35:13.139 --> 00:35:17.230 you remember? Well, probably was. Yep. I think 00:35:17.230 --> 00:35:18.989 it's funny because you just say that, like, the 00:35:18.989 --> 00:35:21.110 internet. And we think news travels fast now, 00:35:21.110 --> 00:35:23.730 like, because we have cell phones. But news traveled 00:35:23.730 --> 00:35:26.969 so fast without cell phones, without, you know, 00:35:27.090 --> 00:35:29.829 having to get to a landline and make, you know, 00:35:30.050 --> 00:35:31.869 call somebody on their party line or what. I 00:35:31.869 --> 00:35:35.070 don't know how it worked, but boy, it happened 00:35:35.070 --> 00:35:38.869 fast. Like, people must have hightailed it to 00:35:38.869 --> 00:35:41.480 those... pay phones that were crossed from the 00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:44.059 bank and downtown potlatch and called home whenever 00:35:44.059 --> 00:35:46.800 they saw something. I don't know. I don't know. 00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:49.179 I get the gas station, the gas station gets the 00:35:49.179 --> 00:35:50.480 call. Remember the little gas station that used 00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:52.380 to be by Floyd's get the call. And then somebody 00:35:52.380 --> 00:35:54.960 from that drives uptown and spreads it there. 00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:57.340 And then it goes from the wagon wheel back home. 00:35:58.099 --> 00:36:00.099 That's how to think of it. I think there was 00:36:00.099 --> 00:36:02.719 like a town crier that just like drove around 00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.760 and saw all this stuff. And then like, you know, 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:07.840 that was their role. I don't know who it was, 00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:11.039 but. It was like all this, too. You know how 00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:14.980 like someone like, like somebody wants a potluck 00:36:14.980 --> 00:36:16.800 or somebody passes away or something. You have 00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:19.940 this list of people. Oh, entry. And guess who? 00:36:20.139 --> 00:36:25.480 OK, now you call, you know, surely. And maybe 00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:27.219 this was the benefit of the party line is you 00:36:27.219 --> 00:36:29.199 could call one person, but five people could 00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:33.219 hear it. You know, the efficiency that that gave 00:36:33.219 --> 00:36:36.320 in the gossip. Does anybody, I bet there's a 00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.119 generation that doesn't know what a party lane 00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:42.219 is, or there's a very different definition for 00:36:42.219 --> 00:36:46.880 it. Very different. Yeah. My daughters with Snapchat. 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:50.699 Yeah. They're like party lane. What? Yeah. I'll 00:36:50.699 --> 00:36:53.079 just snap them. They left me unread. I'm like 00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:55.619 unread. What is that? It's like the, that's the 00:36:55.619 --> 00:36:59.960 biggest sin. If you leave somebody unread, it's 00:36:59.960 --> 00:37:03.869 a diss. Yeah. Yeah. Being unfriended is too. 00:37:04.010 --> 00:37:06.489 I got told it that I told it. I got told that 00:37:06.489 --> 00:37:10.710 told it nice by my younger niece. She was like, 00:37:10.730 --> 00:37:15.769 you got unfriended. I was like, yeah. They're 00:37:15.769 --> 00:37:18.829 making a statement for some reason. Yeah, it 00:37:18.829 --> 00:37:24.329 is a statement. That only happened once though. 00:37:26.150 --> 00:37:28.449 Another high bar, you know, pulled over once 00:37:28.449 --> 00:37:30.690 unfriended once that's actually really exceptional, 00:37:31.190 --> 00:37:34.099 you know? Yeah. I don't think that's true, but 00:37:34.099 --> 00:37:40.280 okay. Yeah. Did that part out? Do you, do you 00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:41.840 remember, do you remember the feeling, you know, 00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:44.420 one, one thing about the small town too, is you 00:37:44.420 --> 00:37:47.719 knew different roles, uh, you depend how old 00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:50.920 you were and what your status was and so on. 00:37:51.300 --> 00:37:53.500 And I was, I bring this up because my daughter 00:37:53.500 --> 00:37:55.739 Ava is getting ready to start her senior year. 00:37:55.940 --> 00:37:59.119 And I remember that transition that summer before 00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:00.719 we were seniors, just feeling, she'll be, you 00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:03.190 might've felt this too, like. Hey, we're the 00:38:03.190 --> 00:38:05.969 big deals on campus now. Like this is, this is 00:38:05.969 --> 00:38:08.010 ours. And, and it wasn't exactly what I thought 00:38:08.010 --> 00:38:09.469 it would be where I thought, you know, we'd be 00:38:09.469 --> 00:38:11.309 just boastful and walking around strutting our 00:38:11.309 --> 00:38:15.150 stuff. I actually also felt an obligation to 00:38:15.150 --> 00:38:17.630 the younger ones that were coming. And I think 00:38:17.630 --> 00:38:20.809 that was in part because Ty, so Shelby's brother, 00:38:21.070 --> 00:38:23.650 Shelby's brother, Ty, because he, he was coming 00:38:23.650 --> 00:38:25.989 up in this class and we had this football tradition. 00:38:26.449 --> 00:38:29.230 It was an awful tradition of dragging the freshmen 00:38:29.230 --> 00:38:31.719 through the mud, you know? I don't remember if 00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:35.199 you were, Oh yeah. I got drug through the mud. 00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:37.440 Rich got drug, Jerry, Jeff. We would have all 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:39.380 gotten drug through the mud and they thought 00:38:39.380 --> 00:38:41.579 it was cool. And it was the puddles, uh, that 00:38:41.579 --> 00:38:44.539 would form at, uh, uh, like the west side of 00:38:44.539 --> 00:38:47.019 the field. And it would gravel in those puddles. 00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:49.219 It wasn't like a fun thing. There was some kind 00:38:49.219 --> 00:38:51.099 of, you know, stupid ritual that, you know, we 00:38:51.099 --> 00:38:52.920 thought we're going to do. And then I remember, 00:38:53.099 --> 00:38:55.699 uh, when we became seniors, also Mike Scoville 00:38:55.699 --> 00:38:58.579 had a younger brother. You know, and, uh, and 00:38:58.579 --> 00:39:00.199 Damon, Damon Carpenter, you know, he had younger 00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:02.099 brothers. And so we're like, you know what? That 00:39:02.099 --> 00:39:03.880 stops now. We're not going to do that anymore. 00:39:04.380 --> 00:39:07.099 Oh, wow. Oh, we stopped it. I hope it didn't 00:39:07.099 --> 00:39:08.880 start again. I don't know if it did, but I remember 00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:10.460 feeling that was, that was cool. Like, okay, 00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:13.119 we can change the culture a little bit here. 00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:16.079 Interesting. I had no idea. Did you know, Shelby, 00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:20.139 that I had no idea. No, I was today years old 00:39:20.139 --> 00:39:22.239 before I knew that I was, you didn't know that 00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:25.360 thing. Well, maybe it was. the guy thing, you 00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:27.280 know, cause when you play football, you go through 00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.880 certain things, right? Well, maybe being, you 00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:33.219 know, I was young enough that if you stopped 00:39:33.219 --> 00:39:35.619 it before it got to us, maybe that's why I didn't 00:39:35.619 --> 00:39:40.019 know. Hopefully it held. It held. Again, I'm 00:39:40.019 --> 00:39:42.659 on a roll. Another thing, and I think you had 00:39:42.659 --> 00:39:44.579 a lot to do this because you were in government. 00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:47.019 You helped to make it possible for us to wear 00:39:47.019 --> 00:39:51.159 shorts. Remember? Yeah. Shelby, you would have 00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:53.139 benefited from this tremendously. Remember they 00:39:53.139 --> 00:39:54.980 wouldn't let us wear shorts at all. They wouldn't 00:39:54.980 --> 00:39:58.719 let us wear shorts. And I remember they, however 00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:02.619 we did it, I don't remember. We petition, I think 00:40:02.619 --> 00:40:05.280 you or Parlo would remember, but I remember, 00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:07.639 yeah, I'm with you and I'll go talk to them and 00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:10.179 I'll sign a paper and I'll wear the shorts. I 00:40:10.179 --> 00:40:12.860 think you guys dared me to like, yeah, to push 00:40:12.860 --> 00:40:14.619 the envelope and wear shorts. And I'm like, I'm 00:40:14.619 --> 00:40:18.829 in, let's go. I'm down. But like it had to be 00:40:18.829 --> 00:40:20.690 longer than your fingertips, right? Was that 00:40:20.690 --> 00:40:22.030 the rule? Yeah, that's what they were worried 00:40:22.030 --> 00:40:26.570 about. I do remember that but but I Never got 00:40:26.570 --> 00:40:29.570 talked to about wearing a miniskirt That was 00:40:29.570 --> 00:40:33.070 my part. That was part of my point. Yeah, I just 00:40:33.070 --> 00:40:35.510 thought that was always so funny And it's not 00:40:35.510 --> 00:40:38.010 like I wore they didn't I mean, I don't think 00:40:38.010 --> 00:40:40.730 anybody really maybe they did push it I don't 00:40:40.730 --> 00:40:43.809 know but my miniskirts were longer than my shorts 00:40:43.809 --> 00:40:46.210 at that time. I mean, let's face it shorts were 00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:48.440 You could have Bermuda shorts, but you could 00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:51.119 have short shorts back then too. I mean, you 00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:54.280 know, but yeah, I remember that. And I remember 00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:57.480 wearing shorts to school for the first time. 00:40:58.219 --> 00:41:00.239 That was a big deal. We did that. It was a big 00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:04.679 deal. Nobody was allowed to do that. Right. I 00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:07.280 thought about that. I remember that because I 00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:10.460 was in, I was in seventh grade and I think we 00:41:10.460 --> 00:41:12.480 had the same rules. I think, so I think we got 00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:17.090 to wear shorts too. Yeah. we're givers. See, 00:41:17.190 --> 00:41:19.070 we felt that responsibility. Thank you for blazing 00:41:19.070 --> 00:41:22.110 that trail and making it so that we could wear 00:41:22.110 --> 00:41:24.349 shorts all winter in the freezing cold if we 00:41:24.349 --> 00:41:27.050 wanted to. Because that's what I remember wearing 00:41:27.050 --> 00:41:29.769 shorts that most is in the winter. When it was 00:41:29.769 --> 00:41:32.389 hot, I feel like we all wore our new... You'd 00:41:32.389 --> 00:41:34.769 go back to school in August and it'd be hot, 00:41:34.809 --> 00:41:36.909 but you would have just gotten all your new school 00:41:36.909 --> 00:41:38.829 clothes, jeans and sweaters, so you wanted to 00:41:38.829 --> 00:41:41.650 wear them. Right. Yeah, it didn't make any sense. 00:41:41.909 --> 00:41:44.210 So you'd rotate them that week. You know, you 00:41:44.210 --> 00:41:47.190 had to make sure you got each one in. Show off 00:41:47.190 --> 00:41:50.170 all your new clothes and your new sheer. Yeah. 00:41:50.170 --> 00:41:52.849 I pray nobody had the same thing that you did. 00:41:53.309 --> 00:41:56.210 Yeah. Remember the white boots, the little go 00:41:56.210 --> 00:42:00.650 -go? Yeah. Remember those? And I remember we 00:42:00.650 --> 00:42:04.010 all sat down as a committee practically, the 00:42:04.010 --> 00:42:06.210 girls, it was like, okay, I'm going to pay the 00:42:06.210 --> 00:42:08.650 shoes and I'm buying the ones, the tassels and 00:42:08.650 --> 00:42:11.489 the silver things. Don't you buy it. And nobody 00:42:11.489 --> 00:42:14.739 ended up with the same. white boots because we 00:42:14.739 --> 00:42:19.599 didn't want to be wearing the same one. I love 00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:23.639 the coordination that went into this. And then 00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:27.840 when somebody's got trashed, well, anyway, when 00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:29.940 they get trashed, you'd be like, okay, I'm going 00:42:29.940 --> 00:42:32.519 to go buy new white boots. So what does everybody 00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:35.179 got so I don't buy the same white boots? And 00:42:35.179 --> 00:42:36.360 it wasn't because you didn't like them, it was 00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:38.699 because you wanted to be an individual. You didn't 00:42:38.699 --> 00:42:41.789 want to wear the same thing. But yeah, I remember 00:42:41.789 --> 00:42:44.269 wearing those clothes and I'd just be sweating 00:42:44.269 --> 00:42:48.369 by the end of the day. And you're just like, 00:42:48.550 --> 00:42:53.949 but I got my new sweater. And you just like, 00:42:54.269 --> 00:42:56.789 yeah, you'd put your shorts on. So yeah, it made 00:42:56.789 --> 00:43:01.170 no sense. It made no sense, but I like, I like 00:43:01.170 --> 00:43:03.710 that we all did it. That's fantastic. School 00:43:03.710 --> 00:43:07.050 shopping was the best. That was the best. Work 00:43:07.050 --> 00:43:10.579 hard all summer. Going to the Bosco mall. That's 00:43:10.579 --> 00:43:12.280 right. Well, that's part of the thing was we 00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:16.079 only had a limited shopping. That was about it. 00:43:16.539 --> 00:43:19.380 Yeah. Unless we wanted to go all the way down 00:43:19.380 --> 00:43:25.039 to Lewiston. How far? Far. Yeah, we did go school 00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:27.179 shopping in Lewiston. Sometimes we'd go to Spokane. 00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:30.639 Yeah. Yeah, I'd go to Spokane. Yeah. That was 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:33.920 a big deal. We even went to Norfolk sometimes. 00:43:36.059 --> 00:43:39.980 Fancy. What was that about? But we did. Wait, 00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:42.659 the shoe department was in the basement. Oh, 00:43:42.739 --> 00:43:45.420 maybe Clovis is in the Nordstroms anyway. Yeah, 00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:48.380 those are good times. We had the best hair and 00:43:48.380 --> 00:43:52.980 the best fashions. I mean, that is a relative, 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:56.320 I don't know, in the eye of the beholder, maybe. 00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:00.579 But so when you when you look back on it, other 00:44:00.579 --> 00:44:03.599 than don't wear your new sweaters the first week 00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:06.260 of school when it's still hot, is there any like 00:44:06.260 --> 00:44:08.500 advice or anything that you that like you'd give 00:44:08.500 --> 00:44:17.119 your teenage self? My teenage self, um, I think 00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:21.400 I would probably remind myself how important 00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:27.920 it is to learn the lessons. Like, if you're in 00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:31.000 a class, you need to absorb what that teacher's 00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:33.480 telling you, because it will come in handy later. 00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:37.340 Maybe not specifically that day, but it will 00:44:37.530 --> 00:44:41.849 the overall information they're trying to instill 00:44:41.849 --> 00:44:45.849 in you will come up again, whether it's if you 00:44:45.849 --> 00:44:48.250 go to college, whether it's in a different class 00:44:48.250 --> 00:44:52.409 at a different level, you know, or in life, you 00:44:52.409 --> 00:44:56.409 might might want to pay attention and not just 00:44:56.409 --> 00:44:58.690 spit it back out when there was a test time, 00:44:58.690 --> 00:45:02.110 you know, and take every and again, like what 00:45:02.110 --> 00:45:04.369 we were saying, take every class you can take. 00:45:04.849 --> 00:45:07.929 Like I wish I would have taken chemistry. Why 00:45:07.929 --> 00:45:10.289 didn't you take chemistry? I can't believe my, 00:45:10.750 --> 00:45:13.789 I can't believe dad was like not on that a little 00:45:13.789 --> 00:45:17.630 bit, dad, but, um. Did you take physics though? 00:45:18.070 --> 00:45:20.829 No, I did not take chemistry, physics or accounting. 00:45:20.909 --> 00:45:23.590 And those were three classes that I wish I would 00:45:23.590 --> 00:45:26.650 have taken in high school. Wait, we had accounting? 00:45:27.610 --> 00:45:29.090 Yeah, I don't, we didn't, I don't think we had 00:45:29.090 --> 00:45:32.789 accounting. Oh, we didn't. Oh, yeah. I was going 00:45:32.789 --> 00:45:34.590 to say, cause we had, we had life training or 00:45:34.590 --> 00:45:38.590 like what life life school. Life school? Seventh 00:45:38.590 --> 00:45:42.250 period with Mrs. Nurk? What was that? Oh, life 00:45:42.250 --> 00:45:46.010 and consumer sciences. I mean, that was it. Home 00:45:46.010 --> 00:45:47.989 ec, basically. Home ec. We were trying to learn 00:45:47.989 --> 00:45:50.090 how to balance checkbooks. We'd learn how to 00:45:50.090 --> 00:45:51.610 bake a pie. But I think it was family. It was 00:45:51.610 --> 00:45:54.510 family and consumer sciences. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. 00:45:54.530 --> 00:45:58.369 I don't think it was that yet. Yeah, it was something. 00:45:59.210 --> 00:46:01.650 Anyway. This is Nurk's class. We all took Mrs. 00:46:01.670 --> 00:46:04.829 Nurk's class. That's what we know. That was a 00:46:04.829 --> 00:46:08.690 blast. Love that. and that should be required. 00:46:09.150 --> 00:46:11.730 I don't know, maybe it is now, but it should 00:46:11.730 --> 00:46:15.690 be required because you need those life skills 00:46:15.690 --> 00:46:20.389 too. I don't know, high school was one of those 00:46:20.389 --> 00:46:24.389 times where you could learn how to, those life 00:46:24.389 --> 00:46:27.610 skills, maybe pay a little closer attention to 00:46:27.610 --> 00:46:31.230 those, how to deal with different personalities, 00:46:31.510 --> 00:46:37.360 how to deal with Different people in like say 00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.880 your teacher is sort of kind of like your boss, 00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:43.619 you know That kind of that kind of advice. I 00:46:43.619 --> 00:46:46.960 wish I would have like done some of that But 00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:49.280 maybe I wouldn't I mean, how do you know until 00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.860 you get to my age and then you look back? But 00:46:52.860 --> 00:46:55.880 yeah, I pro and and have as much fun as you can 00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:59.059 because those four years are not like any years 00:46:59.059 --> 00:47:01.590 of the rest of your life I don't know if you 00:47:01.590 --> 00:47:03.909 guys, well, I know Cameron probably did, but 00:47:03.909 --> 00:47:06.469 I don't know, Shelby, it's not like you're that 00:47:06.469 --> 00:47:08.809 much younger than us, but things change, right? 00:47:09.530 --> 00:47:12.650 But, you know, long about maybe Thursday afternoon 00:47:12.650 --> 00:47:17.469 or Friday sometime, there would be the, you know, 00:47:17.650 --> 00:47:22.469 so where are we going to go and what's the plan, 00:47:22.650 --> 00:47:25.400 you know? What time and where are we going to 00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:27.679 be up? And that was, where are we going after 00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:29.920 the football game? Where are we all going to 00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:33.880 be? The word would start to spread around. Yes. 00:47:34.219 --> 00:47:36.480 Yes. And how did you not know that the adults 00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:39.239 didn't hear that? I'm sure they did. The teachers. 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:43.059 Or maybe they did. I don't know. Well, some did 00:47:43.059 --> 00:47:44.639 and some didn't. Like, uh, I remember getting 00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:47.320 pulled over many, many times, uh, many times 00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:49.460 and a lot of times it was not a ticket. Sometimes 00:47:49.460 --> 00:47:52.980 it was Jim, uh, policeman Jim. And I remember 00:47:52.980 --> 00:47:54.519 with the, with the, with the jeans, you know, 00:47:54.539 --> 00:47:57.760 we got to know each other very well. Uh, he would 00:47:57.760 --> 00:47:59.900 just pull me over and he'd look in the back for 00:47:59.900 --> 00:48:01.280 beer, first of all, right away. And if there's 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:04.579 beer, he'd just take it. Yeah. You know, he just 00:48:04.579 --> 00:48:09.599 take it. He's the smartest cop because he kept 00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:12.360 us out of trouble. He did. Yeah. Yeah. He's probably 00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:14.519 looking out. We're kind of getting in trouble. 00:48:14.619 --> 00:48:17.500 So he usually took care of it before it got into 00:48:17.500 --> 00:48:20.960 trouble, but the guy never had to buy liquor. 00:48:22.689 --> 00:48:25.710 I mean, he must've had the best stash. Yeah. 00:48:26.210 --> 00:48:29.110 I remember someone in his family that's in our 00:48:29.110 --> 00:48:31.969 class told us that. And then he would, and then 00:48:31.969 --> 00:48:33.849 Jim would be like, okay, so Cam, where are you 00:48:33.849 --> 00:48:35.889 going tonight? What's going on? And I remember 00:48:35.889 --> 00:48:38.210 when I started taking some of the boys to Moscow, 00:48:38.309 --> 00:48:39.530 he'd be like, why are you guys going that way? 00:48:39.889 --> 00:48:41.250 I thought everybody's going the other way, you 00:48:41.250 --> 00:48:43.210 know, on the highway. Like, why are you going 00:48:43.210 --> 00:48:44.210 this way? What are you doing? What are you going 00:48:44.210 --> 00:48:46.550 that way for? And I'm like, to get away from 00:48:46.550 --> 00:48:51.730 you, sir. Yeah, it's hilarious. I had no idea 00:48:51.730 --> 00:48:55.670 that you were on a chit chatty basis with Jim 00:48:55.670 --> 00:48:58.909 the cop. I was on chit chatty basis. He saw the 00:48:58.909 --> 00:49:00.550 rabbit coming, man. He least followed me for 00:49:00.550 --> 00:49:04.889 a while. See what I was doing. Yeah. Yeah. The 00:49:04.889 --> 00:49:10.630 rabbit, the diesel. Yeah. Diesel started up in 00:49:10.630 --> 00:49:16.050 blue smoke. It went, uh, yeah, we had a thunder 00:49:16.050 --> 00:49:22.920 and I was an 84 Thunderbird turbo coupe. Thunderbird. 00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:27.420 Yeah. And then, uh, and then in 88, I think it 00:49:27.420 --> 00:49:31.340 was better when, uh, maybe when I was a senior, 00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:36.219 right before. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm not sure exactly 00:49:36.219 --> 00:49:39.760 the year, but I think maybe it's not funny. And, 00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:42.099 and speaking of like back to the parking lot 00:49:42.099 --> 00:49:46.300 thing, I love how you guys would just get all 00:49:46.300 --> 00:49:50.329 excited about hunting season. Oh yeah. You'd 00:49:50.329 --> 00:49:53.730 go out hunting before school and come screeching 00:49:53.730 --> 00:49:56.789 in, you know, right at last bell and then get 00:49:56.789 --> 00:50:02.510 out again after. And there were guns. Gut. Think 00:50:02.510 --> 00:50:04.710 about that. And also sometimes somebody would 00:50:04.710 --> 00:50:06.190 shoot something in the morning and then it would 00:50:06.190 --> 00:50:08.349 just be in their pickup when they came to the 00:50:08.349 --> 00:50:11.449 pool. Oh yeah. I remember. And everybody would 00:50:11.449 --> 00:50:14.429 look at it like. Being mounted to the front of 00:50:14.429 --> 00:50:18.849 a truck. Yeah. Like an LP. Yeah. I forgot. Blood 00:50:18.849 --> 00:50:21.829 coming down. You know, rifle in the back, unlocked. 00:50:22.769 --> 00:50:25.730 Yeah. That's how, you know, I mean, that was 00:50:25.730 --> 00:50:28.889 really changed, but I mean, that was, that was 00:50:28.889 --> 00:50:33.750 just the way it was. You know, so I guess that's 00:50:33.750 --> 00:50:36.989 nostalgia for us. It was very normal and there 00:50:36.989 --> 00:50:41.809 was no, no, let's do it. You know, that was very 00:50:41.809 --> 00:50:47.250 different time. Yep. Yeah. And we have witnessed 00:50:47.250 --> 00:50:52.960 it. I feel old thinking about it that way. It 00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:58.579 was a simpler time. We didn't have to ride horses 00:50:58.579 --> 00:51:06.920 though to school. This is true. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. 00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:10.940 We had to walk up here both ways in the snow 00:51:10.940 --> 00:51:17.929 to get to school. Okay. Yeah. No. I think that 00:51:17.929 --> 00:51:22.590 is a really good testament that everybody was 00:51:22.590 --> 00:51:26.030 on the up and up on that. That's why they had 00:51:26.030 --> 00:51:28.409 a rifle in their pickup or their car because 00:51:28.409 --> 00:51:30.550 they were hunting. It was just, what else? It 00:51:30.550 --> 00:51:32.510 was a hunting community as part of the culture. 00:51:33.110 --> 00:51:38.909 Yeah. Good times. I know it did. Before we wrap 00:51:38.909 --> 00:51:41.489 up, is there any memory, anything that you want 00:51:41.489 --> 00:51:43.329 to share that, you know, there's never enough 00:51:43.329 --> 00:51:46.010 time to share all of it, but anything that you. 00:51:46.030 --> 00:51:48.750 kind of remember any story you want to want to 00:51:48.750 --> 00:51:55.809 leave everybody with uh i didn't really prepare 00:51:55.809 --> 00:51:59.150 anything i i also i have i remember you guys 00:51:59.150 --> 00:52:01.150 went to the girls league formal together when 00:52:01.150 --> 00:52:03.969 you were seniors and i was in seventh grade and 00:52:03.969 --> 00:52:06.610 they would have seventh and eighth graders serve 00:52:06.610 --> 00:52:09.110 i don't know what exactly what that meant um 00:52:09.110 --> 00:52:12.909 i can't remember that at the um at that dance 00:52:12.909 --> 00:52:14.849 and i got to be there and you guys tried to make 00:52:14.849 --> 00:52:16.880 me dance with you but i would not. I don't think 00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:18.780 I did dance. I don't remember if I did or not, 00:52:18.780 --> 00:52:20.539 but I remember you guys like dancing in front 00:52:20.539 --> 00:52:23.099 of the little table we were at and like pulling 00:52:23.099 --> 00:52:27.260 me out there. And I remember Temple had on a 00:52:27.260 --> 00:52:29.760 white dress, this like super cute white dress. 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.079 I have no memory of what you were wearing, Cam. 00:52:32.659 --> 00:52:38.079 That was much less important. I heard this white 00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:39.940 dress. Do you know what dress I'm talking about? 00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:43.559 Yeah, I remember what Cameron had on. We had 00:52:43.789 --> 00:52:49.110 I was a page in the legislature for a week and 00:52:49.110 --> 00:52:53.289 I had to leave right after New Year's. And I 00:52:53.289 --> 00:52:56.090 said, Cameron, I'm not going to mess around. 00:52:56.230 --> 00:52:58.750 I'm asking you to the formal because I know that 00:52:58.750 --> 00:53:01.030 you're a hot commodity and all these women are 00:53:01.030 --> 00:53:02.730 going to want to girls are going to want to ask 00:53:02.730 --> 00:53:05.309 you to formal. So you go to the formal with me 00:53:05.309 --> 00:53:08.489 because we've gone to the formal. The year before 00:53:08.489 --> 00:53:12.329 had. I'm like, hit my date for the formal, right? 00:53:12.369 --> 00:53:14.510 And you were like, yes. And then I find out while 00:53:14.510 --> 00:53:16.730 I'm in Boise, like all these girls were pissed 00:53:16.730 --> 00:53:19.469 because they wanted to go with Cameron and Temple 00:53:19.469 --> 00:53:22.210 already asked him. I'm like, yeah, I got to lock 00:53:22.210 --> 00:53:25.389 it down. Temple's locked it down. That's right. 00:53:25.630 --> 00:53:28.230 I locked that Cameron down. And yeah, we had, 00:53:28.289 --> 00:53:31.989 we made dinner. Didn't we double date with Carla 00:53:31.989 --> 00:53:35.329 and Dan? Yes. And we made dinner at my house. 00:53:35.389 --> 00:53:38.389 My mom and dad were. out and so we made dinner 00:53:38.389 --> 00:53:41.469 and got all dressed up. All dressed up, like 00:53:41.469 --> 00:53:43.989 we're young adults or something. That was so 00:53:43.989 --> 00:53:47.710 fun. Fun. That's a great memory you brought up. 00:53:47.869 --> 00:53:50.210 Great job, Shelby, bringing that one. And, and 00:53:50.210 --> 00:53:52.809 I do remember you being there, Shelbin, serving 00:53:52.809 --> 00:53:54.730 us and we're trying to get you engaged and you 00:53:54.730 --> 00:53:57.929 were really shy. Yeah, it was a really, it was 00:53:57.929 --> 00:53:59.650 kind of an overwhelming experience, I think, 00:53:59.750 --> 00:54:02.610 being at this like high school dance with all 00:54:02.610 --> 00:54:05.659 those like, you know. when you're in seventh 00:54:05.659 --> 00:54:07.780 grade, like juniors and seniors seem so grown 00:54:07.780 --> 00:54:12.719 up and, you know, you kind of idolize them in 00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:14.440 a lot of ways. And I just remember that being 00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:18.659 like, you know, way too embarrassed to like, 00:54:18.659 --> 00:54:21.980 you got to find a photo of that temple. I probably 00:54:21.980 --> 00:54:24.679 have one somewhere. I bet I do. I bet you gave 00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:30.199 me a scrapbook. That's it. I'll find it and like 00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:32.559 put somehow put it on this video if we can figure 00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:35.599 out. Ooh, that's a great technology. Yeah, the 00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:37.739 technology and get one of the found find it, 00:54:37.780 --> 00:54:40.860 send it to me. That would be a fantastic way 00:54:40.860 --> 00:54:44.480 to. Yeah, that was fun, Cameron. Thanks for being 00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:46.679 my date. Even though I know there was a lot of 00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:49.860 other women lined up that that would have. Hey, 00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:55.719 look at what that did for him. That just made 00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:59.639 it like. Shot his stock up. That's right, you 00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:02.059 know? Yeah, you really did him the favor, I think. 00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:06.079 H .S. Go Loggers. That's right. Go Loggers. Loyal 00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:08.380 and true. Loyal and true. Absolutely.