WEBVTT 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:03.819 I've been learning a lot about how people feel 00:00:03.819 --> 00:00:06.280 about their podcast process and where they feel 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:08.859 they spend the most time. And through a winning 00:00:08.859 --> 00:00:11.619 combination of asking my email list and talking 00:00:11.619 --> 00:00:14.740 to people at Podcast Movement, I've learned that 00:00:14.740 --> 00:00:18.579 many, many podcasters feel they spend too much 00:00:18.579 --> 00:00:22.839 time editing their podcast. So for today's episode 00:00:22.839 --> 00:00:26.149 of Podcast Workflows, it's a little... mix of 00:00:26.149 --> 00:00:29.410 three things in podcasting, but also just a regular 00:00:29.410 --> 00:00:32.149 helpful episode. I'm going to talk about three 00:00:32.149 --> 00:00:36.170 ways that you can improve and speed up your editing 00:00:36.170 --> 00:00:38.850 process. One of those things won't be a surprise. 00:00:39.170 --> 00:00:46.969 The rest might. Let's get into it. Welcome to 00:00:46.969 --> 00:00:49.850 Podcast Workflows, the show for people who love 00:00:49.850 --> 00:00:53.130 their podcast, but spend too much time on it. 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:55.899 This show will give you short tips to improve 00:00:55.899 --> 00:01:00.619 your process, grow your show and save you up 00:01:00.619 --> 00:01:04.859 to 12 hours per week. You'll get deep dives on 00:01:04.859 --> 00:01:07.599 how the best podcasters produce their show and 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:14.579 you'll learn a ton. So let's get into it. All 00:01:14.579 --> 00:01:17.280 right. Hey everybody. Welcome to another episode 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:21.629 of podcast workflows. So three things to improve 00:01:21.629 --> 00:01:25.730 your podcast process. The first one will not 00:01:25.730 --> 00:01:30.950 surprise you at all. It is hire an editor. Editing 00:01:30.950 --> 00:01:35.590 is the easiest thing to save time on, which is 00:01:35.590 --> 00:01:38.129 good news, but the bad news is that you'll have 00:01:38.129 --> 00:01:42.430 to make a financial investment. I think every 00:01:42.430 --> 00:01:48.459 podcaster, almost I'll say 99 .9 % of them, should 00:01:48.459 --> 00:01:53.319 hire an editor. There is, for most podcasters, 00:01:53.900 --> 00:01:58.560 little to no benefit to editing your own show 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:02.540 long -term. I think maybe edit it in the beginning. 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:04.500 You have the skill. You'll know how to speak 00:02:04.500 --> 00:02:10.259 the language and you'll know what you want from 00:02:10.259 --> 00:02:14.699 your editor, right? You'll be able to communicate 00:02:14.699 --> 00:02:19.919 with them more easily. But hiring an editor will 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:24.219 free up so much time. I read a stat that it's 00:02:24.219 --> 00:02:27.879 like for every finished minute, it takes four 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:32.539 minutes of post -production work. So if you do 00:02:32.539 --> 00:02:36.939 a 30 minute podcast, you're looking at two hours 00:02:36.939 --> 00:02:39.860 of post -production work. Imagine what you could 00:02:39.860 --> 00:02:43.800 do with those two hours. You could record three 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:51.439 other 30 minute episodes, right? So I think the 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:55.740 best thing for most people to do is hire an editor. 00:02:55.840 --> 00:03:02.360 This is a hill I will die on, but I also recognize 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:07.180 that I cannot force people to spend money if 00:03:07.180 --> 00:03:10.099 they don't want to. And I should also say this. 00:03:10.099 --> 00:03:12.020 There's one more thing that I should mention 00:03:12.020 --> 00:03:16.009 here. I recognize that there are people who want 00:03:16.009 --> 00:03:20.370 to have a podcast and maybe they can't afford 00:03:20.370 --> 00:03:26.150 to hire an editor. So I want to make this clear. 00:03:27.030 --> 00:03:31.430 If you're a student, if you're a hobbyist, if 00:03:31.430 --> 00:03:34.789 you're just messing around with friends, you 00:03:34.789 --> 00:03:37.550 know, you and your friend have, you want to have 00:03:37.550 --> 00:03:40.050 a phone call every week and catch up and whatever, 00:03:40.569 --> 00:03:44.530 that's fine. I'm not talking to you. I mean, 00:03:44.530 --> 00:03:46.289 especially if you're like a hobbyist or you're 00:03:46.289 --> 00:03:48.669 just killing time, like just recognize that if 00:03:48.669 --> 00:03:50.389 you're not doing it for the downloads, you're 00:03:50.389 --> 00:03:54.389 doing it just for fun. That's great. I will say 00:03:54.389 --> 00:03:59.129 that hobbies cost money. I don't know a single 00:03:59.129 --> 00:04:01.389 hobby that somebody has. It's like, no, I don't 00:04:01.389 --> 00:04:04.969 spend any money on my hobby. Right. I love Lego. 00:04:05.210 --> 00:04:09.810 I love cigars. I play the drums. If you're into 00:04:09.810 --> 00:04:16.519 collecting. stamps or knives or pens, you're 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:19.120 going to have to spend money on a hobby. So if 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:22.660 you're a hobbyist, I would, I would also maybe 00:04:22.660 --> 00:04:26.079 just consider where you can invest some money 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:30.620 into your hobby. But again, most people that 00:04:30.620 --> 00:04:34.079 I am talking to here, the people I'm talking 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:37.199 to, the ones you're listening, if you found this 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:41.279 on YouTube and you're like, I don't My no podcast 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:44.139 should make money Nor should you have to spend 00:04:44.139 --> 00:04:46.000 any money on a podcast. This is not for you. 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:49.500 You can just leave Tell YouTube you don't want 00:04:49.500 --> 00:04:52.959 to see content like this anymore I am talking 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:58.300 to people who are who are investing Their time 00:04:58.300 --> 00:05:01.399 and money into a podcast because they see it 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:06.100 as a way to support their business build their 00:05:06.100 --> 00:05:09.790 authority or otherwise make money for their show, 00:05:10.329 --> 00:05:12.889 right? Otherwise make money for themselves, I 00:05:12.889 --> 00:05:16.430 should say. So that's who I'm talking to. Maybe 00:05:16.430 --> 00:05:17.930 I should have said that at the top of the show. 00:05:18.709 --> 00:05:22.089 If you're just messing around or you want to 00:05:22.089 --> 00:05:25.509 learn editing, right? Like, you know, I'm qualifying 00:05:25.509 --> 00:05:27.209 a lot of what I'm saying because like, if you're 00:05:27.209 --> 00:05:28.910 trying to learn editing, then yeah, record your 00:05:28.910 --> 00:05:32.970 own podcast and edit it, right? But if you're 00:05:32.970 --> 00:05:36.600 a solopreneur or a small business owner, And 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:41.980 you are you have a podcast because you have a 00:05:41.980 --> 00:05:45.180 message you want to put out there. You want content 00:05:45.180 --> 00:05:46.720 you want to put out there. You want to establish 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:49.899 your authority and develop a deeper relationship 00:05:49.899 --> 00:05:53.439 with your potential customers. Then you shouldn't 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:55.480 be editing your podcast. There are a million 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:58.000 other things that you should be doing for your 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:01.439 podcast and for your business. And so hiring 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:05.399 an editor. is one of the best things that you 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:10.819 can do. Okay, with all of that out of the way, 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:14.459 what do you do if you want to save time and you 00:06:14.459 --> 00:06:16.139 want to keep editing your show? Now the nice 00:06:16.139 --> 00:06:18.360 thing about the next two things I'm about to 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:21.839 talk about here is you can do it whether you 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:23.660 hire an editor or not. Like these are just things 00:06:23.660 --> 00:06:27.980 that will save you time. So number two is take 00:06:27.980 --> 00:06:33.079 good notes. This is true. Whether you have a 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:40.040 solo episode or a an interview, right? If you 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:43.040 are, uh, if you're recording a solo episode and 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:45.779 you mess up and you want to keep rolling, clap 00:06:45.779 --> 00:06:49.579 your hands, write down the timestamp so that 00:06:49.579 --> 00:06:53.379 you don't have to go looking for that point, 00:06:53.379 --> 00:06:56.399 right? Maybe you went on a tangent, right? Maybe, 00:06:56.480 --> 00:06:59.399 maybe after I finished recording this I'll feel 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:03.160 I went on too much of a tangent about who this 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:08.019 episode is not for. And so I will, you know, 00:07:08.019 --> 00:07:11.279 I can write down the time for that. This is largely 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:12.980 scripted, so I don't feel like I've gone on a 00:07:12.980 --> 00:07:16.620 tangent. But, you know, during the recording, 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:21.439 take good notes for, oh, I talked about this 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:23.540 at this time stamp. This takes some practice, 00:07:24.339 --> 00:07:25.720 right? This is something I've been doing for 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:29.800 a long time. So I'm, I'm comfortable doing that. 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:32.300 Right. And, and there are apps that will like 00:07:32.300 --> 00:07:33.899 sure up silence. So if you just want to like, 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:36.740 especially if it's a solo show, just take some 00:07:36.740 --> 00:07:39.060 time to write it down. Uh, there's an app called 00:07:39.060 --> 00:07:42.439 recut that will trim silences. I think Descript, 00:07:42.500 --> 00:07:44.839 which I'll talk about in a minute, you know, 00:07:44.939 --> 00:07:47.920 gets rid of long silences if you want. Uh, there 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:51.000 are countless AI. This is like a good use of 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:55.060 AI. Right. Oh, there's five seconds of silence. 00:07:55.100 --> 00:07:58.279 Let's get rid of that. Right. So take good notes. 00:07:58.459 --> 00:08:01.420 If you are interviewing someone, what I will 00:08:01.420 --> 00:08:03.300 do is I have our shared Google Doc. I share, 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:06.620 I send a Google Doc to my guest before we record 00:08:06.620 --> 00:08:09.319 with the general structure of the conversation 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:12.399 so that they can be prepared. This is something 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:14.779 else that makes editing easy. The more you prepare 00:08:14.779 --> 00:08:17.879 on the front end, the less editing you'll have 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:21.920 to do on the back end. But I have a Google document 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:26.300 and I'll be taking notes, right? If I go on a 00:08:26.300 --> 00:08:29.660 tangent, I will write like, you know, edit Joe 00:08:29.660 --> 00:08:34.600 tangent 1345, right? If my guest goes off topic, 00:08:35.620 --> 00:08:42.519 edit 14, I almost said 72, 1427 of guest tangent, 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.399 right? Or guest talks about dog too much or whatever, 00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:50.379 right? So keeping those notes means that you'll 00:08:50.379 --> 00:08:52.779 be able to find that stuff more quickly. Having 00:08:52.779 --> 00:08:55.980 a few of the words. that they said it'll make 00:08:55.980 --> 00:08:58.559 it easier to find or that you said it'll be easier 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:01.360 to find, especially if you're using Descript 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:06.419 or Riverside or whatever. And so you won't have 00:09:06.419 --> 00:09:10.139 to listen back to the entire episode. And if 00:09:10.139 --> 00:09:13.820 you have an editor, then you don't have to re 00:09:13.820 --> 00:09:17.240 -listen to the episode to send edit notes, right? 00:09:17.259 --> 00:09:21.399 You can just say, hey, around 1427, my guest 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:24.940 goes on a tangent about their dog. Can you cut 00:09:24.940 --> 00:09:30.840 that out? Right? Or with Riverside, I can actually 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:34.259 find the entire quote and give it to my editor 00:09:34.259 --> 00:09:37.620 if I want to do that. So I think that's number 00:09:37.620 --> 00:09:41.639 two. Take good notes when you're recording. Yes, 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:45.019 this is going to take some practice. Yes, if 00:09:45.019 --> 00:09:47.259 you're recording a solo episode, you can have 00:09:47.259 --> 00:09:49.419 those little extra pauses because there are tools 00:09:49.419 --> 00:09:53.700 that will just remove those pauses. But if you 00:09:53.700 --> 00:09:57.279 want to be an active listener with a guest, then 00:09:57.279 --> 00:10:00.379 it does take some practice. Also, now that I'm 00:10:00.379 --> 00:10:04.620 doing more video for my show, I do need to be 00:10:04.620 --> 00:10:06.779 cognizant that like I shouldn't be doing this 00:10:06.779 --> 00:10:09.460 the entire time when the guest is talking because 00:10:09.460 --> 00:10:11.840 I, we just do have a side by side right now. 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:14.759 We're not switching views. So we have a side 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:18.679 by side. So if I'm not looking at the camera, 00:10:18.820 --> 00:10:22.299 it may be misconstrued as me not paying attention. 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:25.279 when in actuality I'm writing stuff my guest 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:28.740 is saying down. So that's like, I can touch type, 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:34.120 but I want to, you know, I need to practice that 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:35.700 a little bit more. So that's something to keep 00:10:35.700 --> 00:10:39.179 in mind. But by and large, taking good notes 00:10:39.179 --> 00:10:42.659 while you record will make the editing process 00:10:42.659 --> 00:10:48.879 easier. And finally, I say use descript. If you're 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:52.549 going to edit now, Again, another caveat here 00:10:52.549 --> 00:10:57.789 is I, unless they've improved something, I find 00:10:57.789 --> 00:11:02.429 editing multiple tracks in Descript to be cumbersome. 00:11:02.710 --> 00:11:05.590 I don't think they do a good job with it. When 00:11:05.590 --> 00:11:10.669 I was recording in Squadcast for a while, I didn't 00:11:10.669 --> 00:11:14.090 like the experience, but I will give about 40 00:11:14.090 --> 00:11:17.169 % of that to me being unfamiliar with how to 00:11:17.169 --> 00:11:20.590 do it. Also, this was a long time ago, because 00:11:20.590 --> 00:11:24.789 again, I don't really edit my own stuff. Even 00:11:24.789 --> 00:11:28.110 videos like this, I will, you know, I'm going 00:11:28.110 --> 00:11:31.070 to edit this episode myself to go against everything 00:11:31.070 --> 00:11:34.370 I just said earlier, but this is largely me talking 00:11:34.370 --> 00:11:36.429 and I've planned the content and I have a good 00:11:36.429 --> 00:11:38.950 setup. So I'm going to throw the audio in Logic 00:11:38.950 --> 00:11:42.009 Pro, run it through this cleanup I already have 00:11:42.009 --> 00:11:46.009 and then put it back into my video editor, which 00:11:46.009 --> 00:11:49.820 is ScreenFlow. And that's it like the the the 00:11:49.820 --> 00:11:54.200 editing process it wouldn't be you know I want 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:56.460 to release this episode close to when I'm recording 00:11:56.460 --> 00:12:01.440 it and so the short amount of time it takes for 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:06.539 me to edit is is worth it to have the episode 00:12:06.539 --> 00:12:09.320 ready today versus three days from now right 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:16.250 but anyway so Descript if you are going to edit 00:12:16.250 --> 00:12:21.230 yourself or if you something I'll do sometimes 00:12:21.230 --> 00:12:24.970 is I'll get the final episode back. It'll be 00:12:24.970 --> 00:12:27.309 longer in length than I wanted it to be. Right. 00:12:27.350 --> 00:12:29.309 And I maybe I didn't realize it when I sent it 00:12:29.309 --> 00:12:32.950 off for edit, maybe adding the extra like the 00:12:32.950 --> 00:12:36.029 ads and the intro and the outro make it longer 00:12:36.029 --> 00:12:38.950 than I expected. I really want my episodes to 00:12:38.950 --> 00:12:46.139 be 35 minutes and I I get close to that. If it's 00:12:46.139 --> 00:12:48.620 over 40 though, I want to find some stuff to 00:12:48.620 --> 00:12:52.419 trim. And so because I've taken really good notes, 00:12:53.019 --> 00:12:55.980 I will just load the file that my editor sent 00:12:55.980 --> 00:12:59.580 me into Descript and I will look for, oh, we 00:12:59.580 --> 00:13:01.659 had a conversation about fountain pens here that 00:13:01.659 --> 00:13:04.580 didn't apply to what we were talking about. And 00:13:04.580 --> 00:13:10.669 I'll just delete that and export it again. So 00:13:10.669 --> 00:13:13.669 there, you know, if you are, if you, if you do 00:13:13.669 --> 00:13:15.549 hire an editor, but you want to put some finishing 00:13:15.549 --> 00:13:19.049 touches on an episode, Descript is a really good 00:13:19.049 --> 00:13:22.009 way to do that, especially because you do have 00:13:22.009 --> 00:13:24.009 that final file. So you don't have to like line 00:13:24.009 --> 00:13:27.730 up additional tracks. But if you're going to 00:13:27.730 --> 00:13:31.049 edit yourself, then Descript is really good for 00:13:31.049 --> 00:13:33.649 a lot of reasons, right? It can easily remove 00:13:33.649 --> 00:13:37.629 long silences. It can remove filler words, which 00:13:38.730 --> 00:13:43.590 I don't think I am more likely to remove repeat 00:13:43.590 --> 00:13:47.230 words than filler words. I think an um here and 00:13:47.230 --> 00:13:52.090 there is fine. I think if there's like four ums 00:13:52.090 --> 00:13:55.490 in a row, then you want to fix that, right? But 00:13:55.490 --> 00:13:59.929 people say um in real life and if it's not scripted, 00:14:01.070 --> 00:14:03.090 there's a difference between something feeling 00:14:03.090 --> 00:14:08.639 scripted and something being too casual and An 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:13.080 um here or there is fine. I think it's a judgment 00:14:13.080 --> 00:14:15.440 call. If it's too many ums to be distracting, 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:19.799 then you want to edit some of those out, but 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:23.679 more or less you want to make a good point or 00:14:23.679 --> 00:14:26.240 you want it to sound natural. I guess that's 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:29.919 my point. You want it to sound natural, like 00:14:29.919 --> 00:14:33.480 they're not reading or, or it sounds robotic 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:37.100 or something. But Descript is really good for 00:14:37.100 --> 00:14:42.870 that stuff. and then making basic edits. So I 00:14:42.870 --> 00:14:45.190 will end with a little bit of a story because 00:14:45.190 --> 00:14:48.289 I am familiar with editing and I have a process 00:14:48.289 --> 00:14:52.509 on my computer for editing, but I also have really 00:14:52.509 --> 00:14:54.789 good equipment and so I thought that was doing 00:14:54.789 --> 00:14:59.269 most of the work for me. Something I didn't realize 00:14:59.269 --> 00:15:03.809 that my editor was doing was cleaning up, doing 00:15:03.809 --> 00:15:06.529 mouth de -clicking, which is like, I'm not going 00:15:06.529 --> 00:15:08.909 to do it because it's gross. But it's like mouth 00:15:08.909 --> 00:15:12.789 sounds right hard swallows or like lip smacking. 00:15:12.830 --> 00:15:17.570 I can't I can't stand those sounds I'm told I 00:15:17.570 --> 00:15:22.710 I'm I'm pretty sensitive to audio so I don't 00:15:22.710 --> 00:15:26.309 know and that's sensitive like it makes me sad 00:15:26.309 --> 00:15:33.200 just I hear things more And then breaths, right? 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:35.919 Like I take, you know, I'm taking a lot of breaths. 00:15:36.179 --> 00:15:39.360 Breathing has replaced the ums and ahs for me. 00:15:40.019 --> 00:15:43.000 I'll take a pause and I'll breathe. And again, 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:45.419 some, it's like sometimes like people breathe, 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:48.600 right? So you don't need to edit out every breath, 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:52.500 but also when you're talking to someone in real 00:15:52.500 --> 00:15:55.679 life, people aren't breathing in your ear, right? 00:15:56.360 --> 00:15:59.879 So I like to edit some of those breaths out. 00:16:00.169 --> 00:16:03.470 I also like to boost the audio a little bit. 00:16:03.730 --> 00:16:09.769 And so anyway, I thought my Rodecaster Pro 2 00:16:09.769 --> 00:16:12.529 and my Shure SM7B were enough to just get all 00:16:12.529 --> 00:16:16.429 of the annoying sounds out. And then I listened 00:16:16.429 --> 00:16:20.370 to an episode I released, just recorded, edited 00:16:20.370 --> 00:16:24.409 for content and released next to an episode that 00:16:24.409 --> 00:16:29.429 my editor really edited and released. And it 00:16:29.429 --> 00:16:34.850 sounds so different. So, you know, I think I 00:16:34.850 --> 00:16:37.450 know, but I have no idea. This is the real list. 00:16:37.669 --> 00:16:41.610 Just kidding. That's an MTV reference for elder 00:16:41.610 --> 00:16:45.830 millennials. Or I guess for non -elder millennials 00:16:45.830 --> 00:16:49.490 who didn't get that reference. But so now I have 00:16:49.490 --> 00:16:52.250 a process in Logic Pro. But again, like my editor 00:16:52.250 --> 00:16:56.269 does a better job. Right. If you really listen, 00:16:56.289 --> 00:17:00.470 you could probably tell. which ones I edited 00:17:00.470 --> 00:17:03.470 versus every other episode, right? And again, 00:17:03.470 --> 00:17:06.190 it's usually just solo episodes that I'm recording 00:17:06.190 --> 00:17:08.730 on like a Friday before the episode's supposed 00:17:08.730 --> 00:17:10.369 to come out, something I'm thinking about or 00:17:10.369 --> 00:17:14.509 whatever. Or these episodes, because I'm releasing 00:17:14.509 --> 00:17:17.289 them on YouTube and I have all of the scenes 00:17:17.289 --> 00:17:22.009 set up in Ecamm Live, it really is just about 00:17:22.009 --> 00:17:24.910 removing, like doing mouth de -clicking and breath 00:17:24.910 --> 00:17:28.089 control. And so like, I took some time. I set 00:17:28.089 --> 00:17:31.990 that up in Logic Pro and we're good to go. So. 00:17:32.769 --> 00:17:38.910 To recap here. Right, hire an editor to at least 00:17:38.910 --> 00:17:42.890 do most of it, right? I'm a hypocrite if I if 00:17:42.890 --> 00:17:47.769 I say I never edit this one, this one I'm going 00:17:47.769 --> 00:17:52.349 to edit. But I'm also not combining and syncing 00:17:52.349 --> 00:17:56.039 tracks. I don't have to fix someone else's crappy 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:59.960 audio. I don't even really need to edit for content 00:17:59.960 --> 00:18:03.380 because I have a script and an outline up and 00:18:03.380 --> 00:18:05.559 I knew exactly what I was going to talk about. 00:18:07.019 --> 00:18:12.720 But by and large, like. My editor gets. We'll 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:17.259 say 95 % of the episodes that I record across 00:18:17.259 --> 00:18:21.440 all of my podcasts. for for my local podcast 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:24.359 start local he gets all of them because there 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:28.559 are just varying levels of audio and different 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:33.799 equipment and he is Way better than me and it 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:38.500 will take way less time for him Right, but when 00:18:38.500 --> 00:18:41.960 I am recording and I control everything I feel 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:44.299 comfortable throwing it into a logic profile 00:18:44.299 --> 00:18:49.289 that I already prepared So that doesn't add much 00:18:49.289 --> 00:18:55.509 extra time. So hire an editor. Whether or not 00:18:55.509 --> 00:18:59.509 you hire an editor, you should take good notes, 00:18:59.930 --> 00:19:04.690 especially if you do interviews, right? If you're 00:19:04.690 --> 00:19:07.089 doing solo episodes, take good notes before you 00:19:07.089 --> 00:19:11.670 record and it'll keep you on track. But if you 00:19:11.670 --> 00:19:15.869 have an interview, take good notes during the 00:19:15.869 --> 00:19:18.299 interview. Mark things that you think might need 00:19:18.299 --> 00:19:22.599 to be edited when there's over talking. If the 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:24.299 guest says something you think would be a good 00:19:24.299 --> 00:19:29.220 cold open stuff like that. And then finally use 00:19:29.220 --> 00:19:31.819 Descript. This is, this is not sponsored by Descript. 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:33.740 I'll have like an affiliate link in the description. 00:19:33.940 --> 00:19:39.299 Probably. I use Riverside to record because I, 00:19:39.299 --> 00:19:42.440 I think that Riverside is better than Squadcast, 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:48.720 which Descript owns. But as far as editing, especially 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:52.319 basic edits or content based edits, Descript 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:56.859 is is where it's at. It's it's really good. I 00:19:56.859 --> 00:20:00.779 think like Riverside has a built in edit by transcript 00:20:00.779 --> 00:20:03.920 feature as well, but I don't think it's as good 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:07.019 as Descript's. And that's why I'm using both. 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:12.700 So use Descript if you're going to edit yourself. 00:20:13.690 --> 00:20:16.950 Okay. That's it for this episode of podcast workflows. 00:20:17.369 --> 00:20:19.650 I hope you enjoyed it. Let me know if you have 00:20:19.650 --> 00:20:22.069 feedback leave, you know, and you're listening 00:20:22.069 --> 00:20:24.609 in Spotify or YouTube, you can leave comments 00:20:24.609 --> 00:20:27.210 right on the episode. 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