WEBVTT 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:07.160 Welcome to Podcast Workflows, the show for people 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:10.699 who love their podcast, but spend too much time 00:00:10.699 --> 00:00:13.640 on it. This show will give you short tips to 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:17.620 improve your process, grow your show and save 00:00:17.620 --> 00:00:22.339 you up to 12 hours per week. You'll get deep 00:00:22.339 --> 00:00:24.579 dives on how the best podcasters produce their 00:00:24.579 --> 00:00:29.719 show and you'll learn a ton. So let's get into 00:00:29.719 --> 00:00:36.390 it. When my show first took off in late 2016, 00:00:37.250 --> 00:00:41.289 lots of people asked me how I grew this show 00:00:41.289 --> 00:00:44.909 so much. And if I'm being honest with you, I 00:00:44.909 --> 00:00:48.369 don't really know, or at least I didn't know 00:00:48.369 --> 00:00:52.189 at the time. I didn't feel like I was doing anything 00:00:52.189 --> 00:00:56.859 particularly special. But one thing that I was 00:00:56.859 --> 00:00:59.500 doing that I ended up noticing a lot of podcasters 00:00:59.500 --> 00:01:06.400 were not doing was I had a great website. I have 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:09.120 been a web developer for more than 20 years. 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:11.739 And while I don't do that professionally anymore 00:01:11.739 --> 00:01:16.379 at the time, I still was. And I would say I still 00:01:16.379 --> 00:01:20.379 got it, at least pretty good. So when I launched 00:01:20.379 --> 00:01:24.230 my podcast, then called How I Built It, I was 00:01:24.230 --> 00:01:27.569 very keen to make sure it had a great website. 00:01:27.989 --> 00:01:32.569 A website with the episode embed, a good description, 00:01:33.090 --> 00:01:36.310 artwork, subscribe buttons, an easy way for people 00:01:36.310 --> 00:01:41.849 to support me or join my newsletter or just easily 00:01:41.849 --> 00:01:46.030 search for episodes. And eventually a place for 00:01:46.030 --> 00:01:50.549 the transcripts to live. And I still fully believe 00:01:50.549 --> 00:01:55.530 today that you need a good website for your podcast. 00:01:55.950 --> 00:02:01.549 Maybe more than ever. I often talk about why 00:02:01.549 --> 00:02:05.569 podcasting is so hard to grow, and part of it 00:02:05.569 --> 00:02:10.550 is a discoverability issue. There's no place 00:02:10.550 --> 00:02:14.629 like YouTube for podcasts, and while YouTube 00:02:14.629 --> 00:02:19.069 is getting in to podcasts, when you need to watch 00:02:19.069 --> 00:02:23.490 a video, you know to go to YouTube. When you 00:02:23.490 --> 00:02:27.969 need to or want to listen to a podcast, there's 00:02:27.969 --> 00:02:32.789 no one place to go. If you have an iPhone, maybe 00:02:32.789 --> 00:02:36.870 you go to Apple podcasts. If you have an Android 00:02:36.870 --> 00:02:41.069 phone, maybe you go to Spotify. I have a local 00:02:41.069 --> 00:02:44.830 podcast where most people listen in the browser, 00:02:45.270 --> 00:02:49.150 on the website. There are third party apps like 00:02:49.150 --> 00:02:54.469 Overcast. And so it makes finding podcasts harder. 00:02:54.870 --> 00:03:00.069 But if you optimize your title and description 00:03:00.069 --> 00:03:04.389 to be found by Google on a website you control, 00:03:05.250 --> 00:03:08.449 then you can point people in the right direction 00:03:08.449 --> 00:03:12.990 to listen to your show or any other show you 00:03:12.990 --> 00:03:16.280 want or any other episode. I should say that 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:20.439 you want them to listen to in whatever app they 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:26.099 prefer to listen in. So today I want to talk 00:03:26.099 --> 00:03:30.939 about the things that your podcast website should 00:03:30.939 --> 00:03:35.539 have. And then I'm going to tell you about a 00:03:35.539 --> 00:03:39.139 wonderful service for building websites called 00:03:39.139 --> 00:03:43.900 PodcastPage .io. This episode is brought to you 00:03:43.949 --> 00:03:49.250 by podcastpage .io, and I do have a video walkthrough 00:03:49.250 --> 00:03:52.250 over on my YouTube channel that I will link in 00:03:52.250 --> 00:03:57.949 the description for this episode. So first, let's 00:03:57.949 --> 00:04:04.210 talk about the things that you need on your podcast's 00:04:04.210 --> 00:04:09.409 website. I mean, first just shows artwork name 00:04:09.409 --> 00:04:13.919 and description. You want to know what people, 00:04:14.340 --> 00:04:17.519 you want people to know what they're going to 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:20.259 get when they get to your website. You also want 00:04:20.259 --> 00:04:25.240 an easy way to subscribe, the subscribe buttons 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:29.000 across all the places where you can subscribe. 00:04:29.019 --> 00:04:32.399 Now there is a service called episodes .fm that 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:35.379 will kind of curate these for you, but having 00:04:35.379 --> 00:04:38.040 these buttons on your website more than once, 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:41.100 top of the page, bottom of the page, modal, something 00:04:41.100 --> 00:04:44.720 in the top navigation, so that people know that 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:47.160 they don't need to be on this website to listen 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:51.639 to your show. So, subscribe buttons are a must. 00:04:52.019 --> 00:04:55.420 I would say mailing list sign up form is really 00:04:55.420 --> 00:05:00.920 important. You want to get your audience to join 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:05.000 your community and be in your orbit and a mailing 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:08.519 list is the best place to do that. A playlist 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:12.009 or easy way to listen to multiple episodes. your 00:05:12.009 --> 00:05:17.149 headshot and bio, a contact information page, 00:05:17.689 --> 00:05:21.589 and any other information that you think would 00:05:21.589 --> 00:05:27.649 be helpful for your podcast. So those are, I 00:05:27.649 --> 00:05:32.050 think, the things you absolutely need to have 00:05:32.050 --> 00:05:37.449 for a podcast website. And I'll tell you, I will 00:05:37.449 --> 00:05:42.689 link to the demo site I set up over on podcastpage 00:05:42.689 --> 00:05:46.910 .io so that you can kind of see what it looks 00:05:46.910 --> 00:05:52.850 like with real information, but in a very short 00:05:52.850 --> 00:05:57.230 amount of time, I was able to put together a 00:05:57.230 --> 00:06:01.470 nice looking website that had everything I talked 00:06:01.470 --> 00:06:06.009 about. Now I didn't, I actually, as far as like 00:06:06.009 --> 00:06:11.920 a mailing list, Sign up goes I don't have that 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:17.279 but they do have Integrations and forms and so 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:20.180 you can integrate with a number of services like 00:06:20.180 --> 00:06:23.939 HubSpot if you have the higher plan you can integrate 00:06:23.939 --> 00:06:27.220 with Zapier and Oh, and they have Wow and they 00:06:27.220 --> 00:06:31.459 have direct integration with convert kit, so 00:06:31.459 --> 00:06:35.000 that's the one I use they have convert kit MailChimp 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:41.459 and Zappier and HubSpot so Mailing list issue 00:06:41.459 --> 00:06:46.620 solved So what are the things that I really like 00:06:46.620 --> 00:06:49.540 about? Podcast page first of all I mean I want 00:06:49.540 --> 00:06:51.699 to be like radically transparent here because 00:06:51.699 --> 00:06:55.879 they are a sponsor and I am a web developer but 00:06:55.879 --> 00:07:01.120 I have WordPress has been my weapon of choice 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:08.100 for a long time And I know that you need to have 00:07:08.100 --> 00:07:15.360 some know -how to use a WordPress website. Especially 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:18.939 if you want to make it super easy and import 00:07:18.939 --> 00:07:23.379 your episodes, right? And so there's also been 00:07:23.379 --> 00:07:25.959 a little bit of WordPress drama that I'm not 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:28.000 going to get into because I don't care that much 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:31.750 about it, but... When you have a project that 00:07:31.750 --> 00:07:35.110 big with that much of an audience and a bunch 00:07:35.110 --> 00:07:42.009 of different Stakeholders will say that they're 00:07:42.009 --> 00:07:47.910 trying to please it could be very hard to Get 00:07:47.910 --> 00:07:50.750 something up and running easily and when I was 00:07:50.750 --> 00:07:53.350 in the WordPress space, I would say the opposite 00:07:53.350 --> 00:07:58.009 all the time would say oh no it's easy you can 00:07:58.009 --> 00:08:01.129 get you know famous one -click install whatever 00:08:01.129 --> 00:08:08.769 but the fact of the matter is that today in the 00:08:08.769 --> 00:08:12.829 mid 2020s there are a lot of tools out there 00:08:12.829 --> 00:08:16.269 that are I believe much better suited than WordPress 00:08:16.269 --> 00:08:19.589 if you are looking to have just a good podcast 00:08:19.589 --> 00:08:22.589 website If you have like a whole media experience 00:08:22.589 --> 00:08:26.610 or you know how to program like I do, and you 00:08:26.610 --> 00:08:29.269 don't mind putting some time into programming, 00:08:30.189 --> 00:08:32.929 fine, right? WordPress or some other tool might 00:08:32.929 --> 00:08:36.549 be good for you. But if you are looking for easy 00:08:36.549 --> 00:08:41.070 and intuitive for your podcast specifically, 00:08:41.690 --> 00:08:45.809 I don't believe WordPress is that. Case in point. 00:08:46.220 --> 00:08:49.679 My main show, or I guess my bigger show, I'll 00:08:49.679 --> 00:08:53.299 say, The Streamline Solopreneur has a fantastic 00:08:53.299 --> 00:08:57.639 experience. It's a WordPress site, but it has 00:08:57.639 --> 00:09:02.460 custom code and my VA goes in every week or, 00:09:02.460 --> 00:09:07.539 you know, every episode. She schedules multiple 00:09:07.539 --> 00:09:10.840 episodes at once, but she'll go in for each episode 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:14.200 and create a new post with a template that I 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:18.090 created. for that. If you're not familiar with 00:09:18.090 --> 00:09:22.070 WordPress or you're not a programmer or you don't 00:09:22.070 --> 00:09:28.990 have a VA, that is a ton of work. And if we look 00:09:28.990 --> 00:09:33.669 at this podcast, Podcast Workflows, I no longer 00:09:33.669 --> 00:09:37.610 have the time or the bandwidth or the wherewithal 00:09:37.610 --> 00:09:44.360 to custom code something for this podcast. So 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:46.679 if you go to podcast workflows, I'm using an 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:51.399 import tool, but I kind of super hate it. You 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:56.159 know, it creates, it does create a post for every 00:09:56.159 --> 00:10:01.899 episode, but I, you know, I will often create 00:10:01.899 --> 00:10:05.500 podcast episodes based on blog posts or articles 00:10:05.500 --> 00:10:08.279 I write for podcastworkflows .com. So then we 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:12.419 run into an issue of nearly duplicate content. 00:10:13.070 --> 00:10:17.149 And so I either need to go in and just add, like 00:10:17.149 --> 00:10:22.509 embed my player on the article page. Or I should 00:10:22.509 --> 00:10:27.990 have an entirely different website for the podcast 00:10:27.990 --> 00:10:33.169 that is maybe a sub domain so that it contributes 00:10:33.169 --> 00:10:37.230 to the SEO, where when someone searches on podcast 00:10:37.230 --> 00:10:41.250 workflows, it's not ramming into multiple types 00:10:41.250 --> 00:10:44.769 of content. that's really a less than desirable 00:10:44.769 --> 00:10:48.649 experience. And if you're starting from scratch 00:10:48.649 --> 00:10:50.429 and you're thinking, well, now I need to buy 00:10:50.429 --> 00:10:52.789 hosting and find the right plugin and the theme. 00:10:53.610 --> 00:10:57.990 I really think that podcast page, after using 00:10:57.990 --> 00:11:02.590 it, you know, I got a free account and a shout 00:11:02.590 --> 00:11:08.450 out to the podcast page team, right? I was able 00:11:08.450 --> 00:11:11.379 to get up and running quickly. and I'm really 00:11:11.379 --> 00:11:15.039 impressed with what I saw. So I think I spent 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:18.259 too much time explaining, like pleading my case 00:11:18.259 --> 00:11:20.980 for this, but I want to make it clear that as 00:11:20.980 --> 00:11:24.519 someone who has over two decades of web development 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:31.139 experience in 2024, making a great podcast website 00:11:31.139 --> 00:11:38.679 no longer requires development know -how or it 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:48.210 no longer requires hiring a developer. So, what 00:11:48.210 --> 00:11:54.009 are some of the features of podcastpage .io that 00:11:54.009 --> 00:11:58.090 I really like? Number one is easy import. I mean, 00:11:58.250 --> 00:12:00.350 this is like, this has been the bane of my existence 00:12:00.350 --> 00:12:04.129 for this show, is how do I want to handle importing 00:12:04.129 --> 00:12:07.389 episodes to a website that has similar articles? 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:12.360 How do I create a good experience when the main 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:14.879 goal of this site is really for written content 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:19.019 and Again, I haven't been happy with any of the 00:12:19.019 --> 00:12:21.860 solutions. I have found I have a solution that 00:12:21.860 --> 00:12:27.600 works Okay But with podcast page is easy import 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:32.840 it will import your episodes But if you have 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:38.309 reviews It'll also import those and it will import 00:12:38.309 --> 00:12:42.210 the subscribe icons. So again, something that 00:12:42.210 --> 00:12:44.830 I've had to do in the past is I use, this is 00:12:44.830 --> 00:12:48.529 a legitimately good plugin called podcast subscribe 00:12:48.529 --> 00:12:51.570 buttons, but I have to set those up, right? I 00:12:51.570 --> 00:12:55.470 have to paste the links in and if I want different 00:12:55.470 --> 00:12:58.889 types of buttons, I need to create another set 00:12:58.889 --> 00:13:01.970 of buttons. It's really nice that they automatically 00:13:01.970 --> 00:13:05.330 import subscribe icons. It's super, super cool. 00:13:06.189 --> 00:13:08.370 Then they present you with a theme so like you 00:13:08.370 --> 00:13:10.629 don't need to go hunting for a theme that looks 00:13:10.629 --> 00:13:13.649 good They put a bunch in front of you. There's 00:13:13.649 --> 00:13:18.669 also an intuitive customizer Where you can choose 00:13:18.669 --> 00:13:23.929 color schemes fonts padding if you want And you 00:13:23.929 --> 00:13:26.669 can really apply your branding and logos and 00:13:26.669 --> 00:13:31.470 imagery to the pre -made theme or template They 00:13:31.470 --> 00:13:37.129 also have a really nice page builder. So Something 00:13:37.129 --> 00:13:41.409 that I know a lot of people struggle with in 00:13:41.409 --> 00:13:43.330 other. I'm not just going to pick on WordPress 00:13:43.330 --> 00:13:47.629 here and other website tools is and this was 00:13:47.629 --> 00:13:49.769 something that really impressed me about podcast 00:13:49.769 --> 00:13:56.470 page is that a page builder is you're creating 00:13:56.470 --> 00:14:00.049 layouts and you're adding features and different 00:14:00.049 --> 00:14:04.210 types of content. And a blog is some place where 00:14:04.210 --> 00:14:07.269 you just want to write and you might want access 00:14:07.269 --> 00:14:11.769 to those layouts or features, but you're primarily 00:14:11.769 --> 00:14:15.490 writing. And it feels like if one is built primarily 00:14:15.490 --> 00:14:19.570 for building pages, you're fighting the interface 00:14:19.570 --> 00:14:22.350 to write. And if it's built primarily for writing, 00:14:22.429 --> 00:14:24.950 then you're fighting the interface to build layouts. 00:14:26.490 --> 00:14:33.259 On podcastpage .io, the Solution is two different 00:14:33.259 --> 00:14:36.399 experiences. And so you have these things called 00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:39.519 custom widgets across the entire site. So for 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:44.360 latest episode or playlist or they also do. I 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:45.820 haven't mentioned this yet. I was going to mention 00:14:45.820 --> 00:14:49.379 it later, but you can sync YouTube channels. 00:14:50.019 --> 00:14:52.379 So if you have a YouTube channel, you can add 00:14:52.379 --> 00:14:55.820 it and it'll pull in your YouTube videos so that 00:14:55.820 --> 00:14:57.700 each of those has an individual page on your 00:14:57.700 --> 00:15:01.950 website, which is also extremely cool. Because 00:15:01.950 --> 00:15:05.730 I mean first of all the line between podcast 00:15:05.730 --> 00:15:09.009 and YouTube is blurring, but also if you're creating 00:15:09.009 --> 00:15:14.289 content This could be a one -stop shop for all 00:15:14.289 --> 00:15:17.769 of it because they also have a blog, right? So 00:15:17.769 --> 00:15:20.070 you have these custom widgets So if you want 00:15:20.070 --> 00:15:22.750 a video playlist or something like that you can 00:15:22.750 --> 00:15:26.149 add them on the page layouts or you can add them 00:15:26.149 --> 00:15:30.090 in the blog and It's a pretty intuitive interface 00:15:30.090 --> 00:15:33.220 either way One is focused on writing one is focused 00:15:33.220 --> 00:15:37.700 on layouts. I love that it's crazy that I haven't 00:15:37.700 --> 00:15:40.659 seen that in other places like The last time 00:15:40.659 --> 00:15:45.340 I used Squarespace's blog. I hated it, right? 00:15:46.139 --> 00:15:49.120 So it's I mean I was it was like refreshing maybe 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:54.120 other tools do that But not tools I've used right 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:58.340 I'll write on medium or sub stack and they are 00:15:58.920 --> 00:16:03.360 focused fully on the writing process, which is 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:05.840 what they're there for, right? With WordPress, 00:16:06.139 --> 00:16:08.799 it's like the block editor is trying to have 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:11.879 it both ways, and I have frustrations with that 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:15.779 too. So, really cool. Didn't expect to talk this 00:16:15.779 --> 00:16:19.940 much about that experience, but you know, as 00:16:19.940 --> 00:16:22.100 someone who's been around the block, no pun intended, 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:26.480 pretty impressive stuff I'm seeing here. So... 00:16:27.069 --> 00:16:29.009 Let's see. What are we talking about? Easy import, 00:16:29.309 --> 00:16:33.309 customization, and the page builder. I already 00:16:33.309 --> 00:16:35.370 mentioned that it will import reviews, which 00:16:35.370 --> 00:16:38.889 is great because I mean, first of all, in Apple, 00:16:39.529 --> 00:16:41.450 reviews are regional. So like if someone from 00:16:41.450 --> 00:16:44.330 Australia leaves a review on my podcast, I'm 00:16:44.330 --> 00:16:46.090 not going to see that in my version of Apple 00:16:46.090 --> 00:16:49.490 podcasts. So it's nice to have a social proof 00:16:49.490 --> 00:16:52.940 page. They also have a forum just to leave like 00:16:52.940 --> 00:16:55.460 feedback or reviews and make it really easy to 00:16:55.460 --> 00:16:57.320 leave reviews No matter where someone listens, 00:16:57.320 --> 00:17:00.440 which is nice because that's another like killer 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:02.539 Call to action. That's like hey leave us a review 00:17:02.539 --> 00:17:06.519 on Apple podcasts or Wherever you listen to podcasts, 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:10.019 right? Now you just say hey go to you know, my 00:17:10.019 --> 00:17:12.000 podcast page website Whatever the URL is gonna 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:14.519 be slash feedback fill out the form or click 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:17.930 the button, right? But it's a single place and 00:17:17.930 --> 00:17:20.190 I've talked about this a lot in previous episodes 00:17:20.190 --> 00:17:23.109 that you want to make getting feedback and reviews 00:17:23.109 --> 00:17:27.210 as easy as possible. I mentioned the YouTube 00:17:27.210 --> 00:17:30.549 sync or the sync YouTube channels. They have 00:17:30.549 --> 00:17:33.789 a blog. You can add participants, which is really 00:17:33.789 --> 00:17:36.569 nice and they have an intake form. So that's 00:17:36.569 --> 00:17:39.029 really cool. And then the other thing that they 00:17:39.029 --> 00:17:45.269 do that is just like. It's a lot of work if you're 00:17:45.269 --> 00:17:49.089 going to do it on your own. I think that It's 00:17:49.089 --> 00:17:52.390 memberships. I'll just say that explicitly I 00:17:52.390 --> 00:17:54.269 think there are people who are like, oh, yeah 00:17:54.269 --> 00:17:56.589 You just click a few buttons and set up the membership 00:17:56.589 --> 00:18:00.470 site and you're good to go You're not good to 00:18:00.470 --> 00:18:06.069 go setting up a membership site is hard It's 00:18:06.069 --> 00:18:11.359 hard You need to test everything You need to 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:13.359 make sure your payment gateway is working. You 00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:16.480 need to connect a payment gateway. You need to 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:18.819 make sure that your member stuff isn't publicly 00:18:18.819 --> 00:18:22.799 accessible. You need to think through the user 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:26.460 experience a lot. It's not just putting a page 00:18:26.460 --> 00:18:29.740 on your website. It's when they sign up, how 00:18:29.740 --> 00:18:31.460 are they going to get access to their benefits? 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:35.019 When they churn, how are they going to lose access, 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:40.380 right, to those benefits? What if there are different 00:18:40.380 --> 00:18:43.160 membership levels? How do we make sure that people 00:18:43.160 --> 00:18:46.259 paying the lower price can't access the higher 00:18:46.259 --> 00:18:50.180 level benefits? There's a lot of testing that 00:18:50.180 --> 00:18:54.759 goes on. It's not just like turn on a thing and 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:59.319 now you have memberships. But podcastpage .io 00:18:59.319 --> 00:19:03.099 does have memberships built in. You have the 00:19:03.099 --> 00:19:07.289 ability to create multiple tiers. And then you 00:19:07.289 --> 00:19:11.910 have the ability to associate multiple podcasts 00:19:11.910 --> 00:19:15.890 with a podcast website and associate one of those 00:19:15.890 --> 00:19:23.109 podcasts as a members only podcast. So you can 00:19:23.109 --> 00:19:26.950 manually add a podcast or just by RSS feed. So 00:19:26.950 --> 00:19:29.769 like the way I would do this if I were to roll 00:19:29.769 --> 00:19:32.650 out like a member's version of this show is spin 00:19:32.650 --> 00:19:40.380 it up on transistor. add the, like, create myself 00:19:40.380 --> 00:19:44.640 as a member so I get my own private URL from 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:48.000 Transistor and then add that as a podcast on 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:51.000 podcast page and then it'll import the episodes 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:53.099 and they'll only be available for members only. 00:19:53.140 --> 00:19:56.859 So I think that's really neat, right? Not to 00:19:56.859 --> 00:19:59.519 mention, like, it, you know, would save me some 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:01.000 money because then I wouldn't need to, like, 00:20:01.019 --> 00:20:02.900 pay for the members only part of Transistor, 00:20:03.059 --> 00:20:07.880 but... So that you can do the same thing with 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:11.259 blog posts, but again, this is this is a premium 00:20:11.259 --> 00:20:16.059 feature inside podcast page That makes setting 00:20:16.059 --> 00:20:19.599 up a membership easier. I'm not gonna say easy 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:23.680 Because it's not no matter what taking money 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:26.299 from other people online and giving them something 00:20:26.299 --> 00:20:29.119 Has gotten a lot easier over the last few years, 00:20:29.140 --> 00:20:31.039 but it's still especially with a membership site 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:37.450 or premium content It still takes work, but I 00:20:37.450 --> 00:20:42.650 am impressed with just the overall experience 00:20:42.650 --> 00:20:47.069 of PodcastPage .io. Something I haven't mentioned 00:20:47.069 --> 00:20:52.630 yet, which I freaking love, is if you use their 00:20:52.630 --> 00:20:57.509 service, people can record a message to send 00:20:57.509 --> 00:20:59.670 to you. So like I talked about this a few weeks 00:20:59.670 --> 00:21:03.450 ago, right? Getting feedback. On a podcast is 00:21:03.450 --> 00:21:07.869 hard and I want to do voice notes Or like, you 00:21:07.869 --> 00:21:11.569 know voice memos or audio like people quote -unquote 00:21:11.569 --> 00:21:18.250 call in and You know, there are other tools that 00:21:18.250 --> 00:21:22.589 will Kind of let you do that fan list is one 00:21:22.589 --> 00:21:30.009 of them Another one is is speak pipe but with 00:21:30.009 --> 00:21:33.670 podcast page comes with it and you could submit 00:21:33.670 --> 00:21:42.710 a voice note and Then it will show up For the 00:21:42.710 --> 00:21:44.910 podcaster or maybe the podcast she'll get an 00:21:44.910 --> 00:21:48.150 email. I'm testing this. Yeah, so I got an email 00:21:48.150 --> 00:21:53.970 I can then download it and Listen to it and add 00:21:53.970 --> 00:21:58.890 it right so it's cool. It's just like Directly 00:21:58.890 --> 00:22:03.700 email It's it's as the podcaster you get like 00:22:03.700 --> 00:22:06.140 you just get emails from people with voice notes 00:22:06.140 --> 00:22:08.799 that you can include in your podcast So I love 00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:12.500 that so I know I've talked a lot about this this 00:22:12.500 --> 00:22:16.599 this is an episode presented to you by podcast 00:22:16.599 --> 00:22:23.220 page if you Want to try it out Go to podcast 00:22:23.220 --> 00:22:25.619 page .io or click the link in the description 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:29.680 You can use the code Joe Casabona, all one word, 00:22:29.779 --> 00:22:34.539 all caps, Joe Casabona for 10 % off and their 00:22:34.539 --> 00:22:38.900 prices start at like $12 a month, which is going 00:22:38.900 --> 00:22:41.519 to be less than hosting, like then hosting your 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:44.079 own website or maybe around that. Right. I mean, 00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:47.059 there's like cheap hosting, but it's, you know, 00:22:47.059 --> 00:22:49.700 it's for good hosting. That's comparable. Right. 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:51.500 Um, and it goes up from there. So if you want 00:22:51.500 --> 00:22:55.359 some premium features or memberships or multiple 00:22:55.529 --> 00:22:58.130 websites. It's going to go up from there, but 00:22:58.130 --> 00:23:00.549 you can get 10 % off with the code at Joe Casabona. 00:23:00.890 --> 00:23:04.309 I want to thank podcastpage .io for sponsoring 00:23:04.309 --> 00:23:06.529 this episode. Definitely check out the video. 00:23:07.170 --> 00:23:09.509 I'm very clearly really passionate about this 00:23:09.509 --> 00:23:13.670 and I don't just pick sponsors. Like I don't 00:23:13.670 --> 00:23:16.569 just take any sponsor and I certainly don't offer 00:23:16.569 --> 00:23:19.769 a dedicated episode to every sponsor, but I knew 00:23:19.769 --> 00:23:22.250 I'd be able to get like 20 minutes more if I 00:23:22.250 --> 00:23:26.670 look at this. I know I'd be able to get 20 minutes 00:23:26.670 --> 00:23:29.869 talking about this and the and the importance 00:23:29.869 --> 00:23:32.069 of a good website for your podcast. I truly believe 00:23:32.069 --> 00:23:34.809 it's a great way to grow. I mean, one thing I 00:23:34.809 --> 00:23:39.410 forgot to mention is that they do import transcripts 00:23:39.410 --> 00:23:41.569 as well if you include them. Right. That's a 00:23:41.569 --> 00:23:45.029 podcasting 2 .0 feature. And if there's timestamps, 00:23:45.029 --> 00:23:47.069 you can click in a transcript to jump to the 00:23:47.069 --> 00:23:50.210 to the timestamp in the audio, which is I'd have 00:23:50.210 --> 00:23:53.220 to code that custom on my website. on my Streamline 00:23:53.220 --> 00:23:55.619 celebrity website. So really impressive stuff. 00:23:56.259 --> 00:24:00.000 If you're looking for a good solution, like you 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:03.960 have grown beyond what your podcast host offers 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:07.940 you, then I think podcastpage .io is a really 00:24:07.940 --> 00:24:11.779 excellent solution because it just it works with 00:24:11.779 --> 00:24:17.339 any RSS feed. And so you can have your podcast 00:24:17.339 --> 00:24:20.660 host website as, you know, as a place where it's 00:24:20.660 --> 00:24:24.180 a list of your episodes. And then you can have 00:24:24.180 --> 00:24:27.579 more of a home base with all of your content 00:24:27.579 --> 00:24:31.339 over a podcast page or memberships. Really great. 00:24:32.339 --> 00:24:34.119 That's it for this episode. Thanks so much for 00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:36.200 listening. Thanks to podcast page again for sponsoring. 00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:39.779 If you have any questions or you want to leave 00:24:39.779 --> 00:24:43.240 me feedback, you can go to podcast workflows 00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:48.690 dot com slash feedback. and you can leave a message 00:24:48.690 --> 00:24:52.690 there. I'm using fan lists for that right now 00:24:52.690 --> 00:24:55.549 at least. You can go to podcastworkflows .com 00:24:55.549 --> 00:24:57.710 slash feedback and thanks so much for listening 00:24:57.710 --> 00:24:59.529 and until next time I'll see you out there.