WEBVTT 00:00:05.619 --> 00:00:13.259 Ladies and gentlemen, may I have your attention, 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:24.660 please? The show starts in 10... 9... 8... 7... 00:00:24.660 --> 00:00:40.179 6... 5... 4... Three, two, one, go. All right. 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:44.979 So do you go by Stephen or Steve? I go by a lot 00:00:44.979 --> 00:00:49.299 of things. Stephen or Steve, or my middle name's 00:00:49.299 --> 00:00:53.100 Alex. That family calls me Alex, so I'm good 00:00:53.100 --> 00:00:55.759 for you. Call me whatever. That's kind of like 00:00:55.759 --> 00:01:01.079 my family. If anybody calls me Kurt, They either 00:01:01.079 --> 00:01:03.899 grew up with me or they're from my family because 00:01:03.899 --> 00:01:07.920 It's Curtis now and everybody if I hear that 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:12.040 I know there's somebody from my past Yeah, actually 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:14.239 so the family called me Alex and when I started 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:17.939 years ago with the company I worked for us There 00:01:17.939 --> 00:01:19.879 was already an Alex and they said well, you want 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:21.239 to scholarly and I said well you got an Alex 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:26.400 little comsteep And it's stuck yeah, it's stuck 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:30.719 so here I am All right, let me see. I'm gonna 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:34.540 pull up some comments here. I see you've already 00:01:34.540 --> 00:01:38.060 been in the comments. There you go. I'm there, 00:01:38.140 --> 00:01:43.359 I'm with you. And Victor's here. Thank you, David. 00:01:44.859 --> 00:01:47.159 Well, one of the things I like to ask people 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:53.180 because I'm kind of surprised at... the number 00:01:53.180 --> 00:01:55.719 of people that have kind of just stumbled in 00:01:55.719 --> 00:02:00.579 to HVAC or HVAC in refrigeration because I've 00:02:00.579 --> 00:02:04.000 said this many times, we, at least when I went 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:06.200 through school, they were pushing college, college, 00:02:06.260 --> 00:02:11.280 college, college. And I mean, and I was in these 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:13.900 college prep classes. I was making good grades 00:02:13.900 --> 00:02:18.280 and I thought that was the way to go and it just 00:02:18.280 --> 00:02:23.240 didn't work out for me. So. It was late in life 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:29.259 that I came into HVAC and I am loving it. It 00:02:29.259 --> 00:02:34.699 challenges me mentally. I like being able to 00:02:34.699 --> 00:02:37.120 do something with my hands and see that I have 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:41.259 fixed something or look for a problem, find it 00:02:41.259 --> 00:02:43.639 and fix it. I love the whole challenge of all 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:47.629 of that. It's just... In fact, I like that so 00:02:47.629 --> 00:02:49.530 much if I have to do a preventive maintenance 00:02:49.530 --> 00:02:53.229 I really don't like it because it's just monotonous 00:02:53.229 --> 00:02:57.330 kind of work, you know, but um So, um, what do 00:02:57.330 --> 00:02:59.430 you have a similar story? Did you just did you 00:02:59.430 --> 00:03:01.210 try to start something else or did you go right 00:03:01.210 --> 00:03:04.409 into HVAC? No, I started straight out of high 00:03:04.409 --> 00:03:06.770 school and just kind of stumbled into like you 00:03:06.770 --> 00:03:09.090 said I had a friend of mine that owns his own 00:03:09.090 --> 00:03:12.430 company now and we just we went the same company 00:03:12.430 --> 00:03:15.449 and I didn't know what HVAC was. We were doing 00:03:15.449 --> 00:03:18.509 grunt work. You know, we were doing commercial 00:03:18.509 --> 00:03:21.909 install. So it was a lot of carrying duct upstairs 00:03:21.909 --> 00:03:26.530 and going to get tools for people. I had no idea 00:03:26.530 --> 00:03:28.189 what I wanted to do out of high school. It was 00:03:28.189 --> 00:03:30.550 the same deal for me. It's pushing college and 00:03:30.550 --> 00:03:33.330 you got to go to college and college. I wasn't 00:03:33.330 --> 00:03:36.710 going to do the college thing. So. Well, I mean, 00:03:36.710 --> 00:03:40.180 for some people, hey, that's great, but. I happen 00:03:40.180 --> 00:03:42.860 to see where some of these college jobs, we've 00:03:42.860 --> 00:03:46.280 been trying to teach kids how to code computers 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:49.919 for years now. And all these executives at Amazon 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:56.500 are being laid off because of AI. And AI ain't 00:03:56.500 --> 00:04:01.080 coming for my job. I don't see that. There is 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:04.120 just no way. And so I am not worried about job 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:06.319 security when it comes to all this AI stuff. 00:04:07.060 --> 00:04:09.520 That's the beauty of the trades. You're going 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:10.900 to get out there and get your hands on it. You 00:04:10.900 --> 00:04:13.259 got to have boots on the ground, man. AI is not 00:04:13.259 --> 00:04:17.019 climbing a roof or going in a crawl space or 00:04:17.019 --> 00:04:20.180 an attic or something to fix them. You got that 00:04:20.180 --> 00:04:25.040 exactly right. I briefly mentioned this before 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:28.319 we came on about that video you published. I 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:31.339 want to talk about that Kudland Tower that you 00:04:31.339 --> 00:04:33.939 were working on. Because in my mind's eye, when 00:04:33.939 --> 00:04:35.959 I think of a coolant tower, it's shaped like 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:38.180 a V. It's got a great big old fan on the top 00:04:38.180 --> 00:04:41.339 of it. I've not seen one shaped like that. Is 00:04:41.339 --> 00:04:44.500 that normal? Yeah. I mean, they're all different 00:04:44.500 --> 00:04:46.439 shapes and sizes, right? Like everything else. 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:51.319 But that was a snippet from some testing I was 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:54.180 doing after a service call. Actually, there's 00:04:54.180 --> 00:04:56.759 a full video on that building and kind of shows 00:04:56.759 --> 00:05:00.720 the whole setup. That's an old building downtown. 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:04.040 There's about six floors of, I don't know, 16 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:07.019 or so water source heat pumps inside, and that 00:05:07.019 --> 00:05:09.300 is the cooling tower that sits on the roof. It's 00:05:09.300 --> 00:05:13.860 a little old and falling apart, but what I was 00:05:13.860 --> 00:05:18.000 showing was the pump wasn't moving enough water, 00:05:18.300 --> 00:05:20.680 or the amount of water that it should be, and 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:23.360 you could see that in the amp draw. And it was 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:25.379 actually a callback, so we had another guy out 00:05:25.379 --> 00:05:28.420 there, and he said, It's working, you know, the 00:05:28.420 --> 00:05:31.980 waters flowing everything looks normal But it 00:05:31.980 --> 00:05:35.560 was working kind of just not to its full capacity. 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:38.480 Well, let me Didn't you try to do something to 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:41.459 prime that pump? I was trying to let the water 00:05:41.459 --> 00:05:45.259 So I open the valve and it lets some water out 00:05:45.259 --> 00:05:49.220 try to get start flow Seals were leaking on it. 00:05:49.220 --> 00:05:51.480 So what happens is when a pump shuts off all 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:56.959 the water the head that it's got in the It leaks 00:05:56.959 --> 00:06:01.579 out, and then it can't restart. Oh, so that's 00:06:01.579 --> 00:06:05.579 a bigger problem now. Yeah, that pump got rebuilt. 00:06:09.300 --> 00:06:13.639 That was a tricky one. That whole building was 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:18.259 a little bit of a nightmare. My guy Jason's in 00:06:18.259 --> 00:06:19.819 the chat here. He kind of helped me with that 00:06:19.819 --> 00:06:24.629 one. He's a smart dude. I had some questions 00:06:24.629 --> 00:06:26.829 on how to get the air out of that system because 00:06:26.829 --> 00:06:29.290 I had to replace a pump down in the basement 00:06:29.290 --> 00:06:32.269 and It was one of those they sent me on a Friday 00:06:32.269 --> 00:06:34.610 Handing me a pump said hey go put this pump in 00:06:34.610 --> 00:06:36.889 and I went out there and I'm going Hey, wait 00:06:36.889 --> 00:06:39.410 a minute. This is a bad idea. It's the old building 00:06:39.410 --> 00:06:43.589 downtown. It's a bar and The pump had no isolation 00:06:43.589 --> 00:06:46.209 valve. So I'm like I'm gonna drain six stories 00:06:46.209 --> 00:06:49.410 of water if I take this pump out right now I 00:06:49.410 --> 00:06:53.060 Think I'm not gonna do that And so I kept it 00:06:53.060 --> 00:06:55.379 running through the weekend and we kind of backed 00:06:55.379 --> 00:06:58.459 up and punted and came back Monday and got everything 00:06:58.459 --> 00:07:04.720 done. I don't work on, speaking of priming pumps, 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:09.519 I don't work on fuel oil very much. But I had 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:13.180 to go change a filter in one of them. Change 00:07:13.180 --> 00:07:16.660 a filter and the nozzle. Basically somebody else 00:07:16.660 --> 00:07:18.579 diagnosed that I was working in another company 00:07:18.579 --> 00:07:23.009 and I had to go do it. And I knew nothing about 00:07:23.009 --> 00:07:27.050 priming those little pumps. I was clueless. I 00:07:27.050 --> 00:07:28.810 tried to turn the thing back on and it won't 00:07:28.810 --> 00:07:32.990 run. And I probably spent 30 minutes on the phone 00:07:32.990 --> 00:07:36.810 trying to figure out how to prime it. And I get 00:07:36.810 --> 00:07:39.029 oil all over me. I smelled like diesel by the 00:07:39.029 --> 00:07:42.649 time I was done. Fuel oil is tricky. I don't 00:07:42.649 --> 00:07:44.910 work on those very much. I mean, fuel oil down 00:07:44.910 --> 00:07:48.879 here is rare. It's really rare. Yeah, I figured 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:50.759 that. We see some of it down here, so I worked 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:53.959 on some in the past. We have a lot of your automotive 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:56.660 shops that use waste oil, and that's even worse 00:07:56.660 --> 00:08:00.620 because it's nasty oil a lot of times. Really? 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:05.240 They can burn that? You burn anything. Yeah. 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:08.000 Yeah, a lot of your automotive shops, if you 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:09.720 use your Jiffy Loobs and stuff like that, they'll 00:08:09.720 --> 00:08:12.519 dump the oil in a tank and keep it warm and they 00:08:12.519 --> 00:08:16.569 feed it to heaters. That must be a mess on like 00:08:16.569 --> 00:08:18.730 those little nozzles and your filters and all 00:08:18.730 --> 00:08:20.850 that stuff. Yeah, you got to keep everything 00:08:20.850 --> 00:08:23.550 clean Well, is it a different setup than a fuel 00:08:23.550 --> 00:08:27.170 oil setup or you have to modify it? I don't I 00:08:27.170 --> 00:08:29.230 mean, I'm sure like the nozzles and stuff might 00:08:29.230 --> 00:08:31.050 be a little different, but I think it's that's 00:08:31.050 --> 00:08:33.669 the same idea I mean your same nozzle you blow 00:08:33.669 --> 00:08:36.970 it in there and make a flame It burns like anything 00:08:36.970 --> 00:08:45.039 else Once again, that's something that Jason 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:51.759 knows about. Jason knows a lot about a lot. I 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:57.659 have not worked on those. I remember when, about 00:08:57.659 --> 00:09:01.379 the time I was 18, there was this craze that 00:09:01.379 --> 00:09:04.779 people were using cooking oil from like Kentucky 00:09:04.779 --> 00:09:10.019 Fried Chicken and burning it in their cars. That 00:09:10.019 --> 00:09:12.679 seems like a bad idea. They were. If you got 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:14.840 behind one, it would smell like French fries 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:19.799 or something. They had to put some kind of heater 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:22.480 back there to keep it warm and a filter, and 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:27.220 it would burn like diesel. Interesting. Yeah, 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:30.899 I've seen multiples of those. I've never owned 00:09:30.899 --> 00:09:33.259 a car that did anything like that, but that was 00:09:33.259 --> 00:09:40.549 a fad back in the day. It must not be worth it 00:09:40.549 --> 00:09:43.269 because they're not doing it anymore. Yeah, I 00:09:43.269 --> 00:09:46.269 wouldn't think so. Other than the smell, it smells 00:09:46.269 --> 00:09:49.350 like fried chicken and french fries. I can't 00:09:49.350 --> 00:09:53.309 deal with that. It really did. It really did. 00:09:54.149 --> 00:09:56.769 I remember because there was this one BMW that 00:09:56.769 --> 00:10:01.450 would come through a BMW diesel and they would 00:10:01.450 --> 00:10:07.519 pick up the oil. And then they would process 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:10.299 it themselves. But I remember being around his 00:10:10.299 --> 00:10:13.039 vehicle when it was running and it smelled like 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:17.600 kind of like french fries. Nice. Yeah, that was 00:10:17.600 --> 00:10:19.879 one of my first jobs. I worked at Kentucky Fried 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:25.940 Chicken. Man, I've worked at Roses, Kentucky 00:10:25.940 --> 00:10:29.360 Fried Chicken, Pizza Hut. I had a bunch of like 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:31.580 high school jobs back in the day. In fact, the 00:10:31.580 --> 00:10:33.620 Pizza Hut one was the best one because I got 00:10:33.620 --> 00:10:38.090 into delivering pizzas. And for a high school 00:10:38.090 --> 00:10:41.190 kid, that can be good money. Yeah. You get tips 00:10:41.190 --> 00:10:45.049 too. Yeah. And you know, like the pizza places 00:10:45.049 --> 00:10:47.330 around here now, they only go like five miles. 00:10:47.809 --> 00:10:49.850 And if you're outside of that five miles, you 00:10:49.850 --> 00:10:52.610 got to do grub hub or something like that. Where 00:10:52.610 --> 00:10:55.309 I worked, we had a 30 mile radius and my store 00:10:55.309 --> 00:10:58.629 was nothing but delivery. So I was delivering 00:10:58.629 --> 00:11:01.690 all night. I would come home with a hundred dollars 00:11:01.690 --> 00:11:07.019 in tips. That's good for a teenage kid. You're 00:11:07.019 --> 00:11:09.879 talking about like in 1988, that was great. That 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:14.200 was fantastic. My first job, I worked on a farm. 00:11:14.840 --> 00:11:17.419 Actually, it's funny, I'm from the city, but 00:11:17.419 --> 00:11:19.500 I worked on a farm in the middle of the city 00:11:19.500 --> 00:11:22.620 that we used to cut all the mint for the Kentucky 00:11:22.620 --> 00:11:26.340 Derby. Years ago, that small farm in the middle 00:11:26.340 --> 00:11:27.720 of Louisville, they wouldn't cut all the mint 00:11:27.720 --> 00:11:29.879 for the Kentucky Derby, you know, make mint juleps 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:34.620 and stuff like that. on your hands and knees 00:11:34.620 --> 00:11:37.279 in a field full of mint and you just grab and 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:40.320 slice and bundle them up, throw them in a bucket. 00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:44.820 That's kind of... You did tell me you were from 00:11:44.820 --> 00:11:51.820 Kentucky. What parts of Kentucky? I'm from Louisville, 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:56.700 so it's right on the river across from Indiana. 00:11:57.340 --> 00:12:00.940 Okay. So we're right near the river. Louisville's 00:12:00.940 --> 00:12:02.940 probably... It's the biggest city in Kentucky, 00:12:02.980 --> 00:12:07.379 I guess. Is Louisville, is Louisville the home 00:12:07.379 --> 00:12:10.700 of the University of Kentucky? No, Kentucky, 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:14.220 University of Louisville is in Louisville. Kentucky 00:12:14.220 --> 00:12:17.700 is in Lexington. Oh, that's what you're talking 00:12:17.700 --> 00:12:21.000 about. This is about 60 miles east of Louisville. 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:25.299 Okay. So Louisville, the ACC team, you know what 00:12:25.299 --> 00:12:27.539 I'm talking about? That's where you're from. 00:12:27.980 --> 00:12:33.620 Yep. I'm a Kentucky fan though, so. Well, that's 00:12:33.620 --> 00:12:36.159 good. You know, as long as they're not playing 00:12:36.159 --> 00:12:40.659 Georgia, I'll pull for any SEC team, you know? 00:12:41.220 --> 00:12:44.320 Well, we've already switched to basketball season 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:47.620 now because of our football teams. So is Kentucky 00:12:47.620 --> 00:12:52.460 more of a basketball school? Yeah, that's the 00:12:52.460 --> 00:12:55.200 big thing. The football team's improved, but 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:58.600 we got a rough road with y 'all and, you know, 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:02.399 Texas now and Oklahoma and everybody else. It's 00:13:02.399 --> 00:13:05.100 a hard road during the football season. Yeah, 00:13:05.179 --> 00:13:06.759 you know, I thought it would be a little bit 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:10.379 different the way the SEC's lining up now because 00:13:10.379 --> 00:13:12.940 there's not an East and a West and Kentucky ended 00:13:12.940 --> 00:13:16.620 up in the West with these powerhouse schools 00:13:16.620 --> 00:13:20.730 and now it's more mixed up. I felt like, you 00:13:20.730 --> 00:13:22.870 know, schools like South Carolina and Kentucky 00:13:22.870 --> 00:13:26.289 and Arkansas might get a better chance of having 00:13:26.289 --> 00:13:32.610 a more even schedule. Yeah, it's just always 00:13:32.610 --> 00:13:35.629 like, it's always a tough road, man. I mean, 00:13:35.690 --> 00:13:38.610 you got, we played Texas last week. It's like, 00:13:39.190 --> 00:13:42.690 we can't hardly compete with them and you're 00:13:42.690 --> 00:13:45.240 still fighting for like, I mean, even second 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:47.480 place because we got 12 teams down to play off. 00:13:47.899 --> 00:13:50.480 So like you got a shot, but you still got to 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:53.000 be pretty damn good to get through the Alabamas 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:57.139 and, you know, the Georges. And what's the deal 00:13:57.139 --> 00:14:00.100 with Alabama? I feel like they got some kind 00:14:00.100 --> 00:14:03.919 of black magic or they're doing roots on all 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:05.860 their other teams. Like I felt like whenever 00:14:05.860 --> 00:14:08.720 playing Georgia, Georgia was a better team. But 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:11.399 Georgia just cannot seem to beat Alabama. I don't 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:13.840 know what the deal is. I pull my hair out every 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:16.200 time I watch them, I'm like, what's going on? 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:19.039 They got some big old boys, man. Either way, 00:14:19.259 --> 00:14:21.659 that's a, you know, Georgia and Alabama get all 00:14:21.659 --> 00:14:26.500 those, all those dudes and you got, uh, those 00:14:26.500 --> 00:14:29.179 linemen fight it out, man. It's, it's hard. It's, 00:14:29.299 --> 00:14:32.230 you know, Kentucky's got some linemen. lately 00:14:32.230 --> 00:14:34.549 that have been able to compete in the SEC. But 00:14:34.549 --> 00:14:37.149 for years, if you didn't have the big guys up 00:14:37.149 --> 00:14:40.110 front, you could have receivers and everything 00:14:40.110 --> 00:14:41.909 else all you wanted. But if you ain't got a line 00:14:41.909 --> 00:14:44.570 to block for them, you ain't doing nothing. But 00:14:44.570 --> 00:14:47.509 you know something, I don't know how we got off 00:14:47.509 --> 00:14:54.009 on talking about football, but I was watching 00:14:54.009 --> 00:14:58.559 the Texas A &M and the LSU game. And there was 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:01.100 this one defensive player who was playing like 00:15:01.100 --> 00:15:05.700 on the end, who was physically fit, he was muscular. 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:10.480 And he was lined up against this like 350 pound 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:14.559 lineman. And this physically fit guy from Texas 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:18.320 A &M was just running around him. I mean, he 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:20.919 was making him look like a joke and that guy 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:22.980 was holding him the whole game. And I'm just 00:15:22.980 --> 00:15:25.879 like, I don't see the advantage of being almost 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:29.710 400 pounds. If somebody can do that to you, I 00:15:29.710 --> 00:15:32.110 mean if you're not fast I mean you get you get 00:15:32.110 --> 00:15:35.029 up to NFL and some of those dudes are you know 00:15:35.029 --> 00:15:38.129 Six seven three fifty and they can run a four 00:15:38.129 --> 00:15:45.730 four Yeah, you're right All right, who's mr. 00:15:47.629 --> 00:15:51.629 Bourbon Jason again, well the Kentucky's home 00:15:51.629 --> 00:15:53.870 of bourbon we do we do bourbon and horses, man 00:15:54.379 --> 00:15:57.500 Urban and horses. Urban horses and basketball. 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:06.559 Okay. I'll get in. I'm probably going to do a 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:09.820 whole another live just on CRM's, but we were 00:16:09.820 --> 00:16:15.720 talking about CRM's just a second ago and I'm 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:18.840 starting to use Housecall Pro. I've been using 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:23.950 QuickBooks QuickBooks online forever. but the 00:16:23.950 --> 00:16:29.490 CRMs offer some options that are helpful. Like 00:16:29.490 --> 00:16:33.429 in the logistics, when you schedule a customer, 00:16:34.889 --> 00:16:37.370 they're notified that they have been scheduled 00:16:37.370 --> 00:16:39.690 and they know what time the schedule is and who's 00:16:39.690 --> 00:16:42.269 coming out. And then when you hit on the way, 00:16:42.289 --> 00:16:44.429 they know you're on the way and they can follow 00:16:44.429 --> 00:16:47.309 your route. Little things like that that CRMs 00:16:47.309 --> 00:16:51.610 do. That's nice and that's helpful. Especially 00:16:51.610 --> 00:16:54.350 for the customers too. And it makes you look 00:16:54.350 --> 00:16:56.309 more perfect. Somebody like me, just a one -man 00:16:56.309 --> 00:16:58.210 show makes me look a little more professional. 00:16:58.990 --> 00:17:02.669 So one of the reasons I didn't have a video today 00:17:02.669 --> 00:17:06.170 is because I was in the office in Zoom calls 00:17:06.170 --> 00:17:09.069 and all this other stuff trying to figure out 00:17:09.069 --> 00:17:11.769 all the different things that I can do with this 00:17:11.769 --> 00:17:16.390 CRM from hooking up my Google business account. 00:17:16.650 --> 00:17:20.089 So when somebody with a Google... Gmail account 00:17:20.089 --> 00:17:24.890 leaves a review, it shows up in Google. Just 00:17:24.890 --> 00:17:28.130 little stuff like that to boost the number of 00:17:28.130 --> 00:17:33.329 reviews. Yeah. And I went through a whole thing 00:17:33.329 --> 00:17:37.549 with their bookkeeping theme that they're offering. 00:17:37.769 --> 00:17:40.390 I'm not really sure what it is or what it's good 00:17:40.390 --> 00:17:45.930 for, but it's not for me. That's... Yeah, I mean 00:17:45.930 --> 00:17:48.809 they can do a lot of things so we've been looking 00:17:48.809 --> 00:17:54.289 at something, you know to help Take the calls 00:17:54.289 --> 00:17:56.410 that come in and the emails that come in and 00:17:56.410 --> 00:17:58.609 kind of divert them to the right place to where 00:17:58.609 --> 00:18:00.829 they need to go and we've been looking at some 00:18:00.829 --> 00:18:03.650 different things not Similar to what you're talking 00:18:03.650 --> 00:18:06.109 about. We're not quite the same but there's just 00:18:06.109 --> 00:18:08.250 so many options and so many things that they 00:18:08.250 --> 00:18:12.670 can do I mean the AI can take an email and read 00:18:12.670 --> 00:18:14.849 it for you and go okay well you want this and 00:18:14.849 --> 00:18:17.089 then it can go pull a document and say okay here's 00:18:17.089 --> 00:18:20.150 this document look at this and try to answer 00:18:20.150 --> 00:18:23.829 their question so we don't have to there's there's 00:18:23.829 --> 00:18:25.630 a lot of different things that they can do that 00:18:25.630 --> 00:18:27.910 would be really useful i'm gonna tell you probably 00:18:27.910 --> 00:18:33.650 a a third of my calls come through email and 00:18:33.650 --> 00:18:36.269 when i'm working i don't answer the phone i'm 00:18:36.269 --> 00:18:38.670 not looking through email i'm not checking text 00:18:38.670 --> 00:18:44.670 messages so if ai could book calls like they 00:18:44.670 --> 00:18:47.829 can through the phone calls, by looking at my 00:18:47.829 --> 00:18:51.009 email, that would be really helpful. There's 00:18:51.009 --> 00:18:54.549 all kinds of things out there now, man. It's 00:18:54.549 --> 00:18:59.009 an interesting world we live in. Oh, yes. Speaking 00:18:59.009 --> 00:19:01.670 of interesting, have you seen, I got to talk 00:19:01.670 --> 00:19:03.849 about this because it just came across like my 00:19:03.849 --> 00:19:09.410 Instagram feed. This, what is it? AI Atlas thing 00:19:09.410 --> 00:19:13.240 that's coming through or? I haven't seen that. 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:16.579 Solar system? I have not seen that. All right. 00:19:16.599 --> 00:19:18.460 Some people are saying it's a comment and some 00:19:18.460 --> 00:19:21.119 people are saying it's not a comment at all because 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:24.460 it's got lights all over it. And then Japan produced 00:19:24.460 --> 00:19:27.240 a video of it today and it does look like it 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:31.460 has lights all over it. So I hadn't heard anything 00:19:31.460 --> 00:19:33.539 about it until today. Well, actually I had, but 00:19:33.539 --> 00:19:35.559 I just kind of blew it off. Like, yeah, yeah, 00:19:35.819 --> 00:19:40.490 yeah, conspiracy stuff, but man. I don't know. 00:19:40.710 --> 00:19:43.390 I saw the video that came from Japan and I'm 00:19:43.390 --> 00:19:49.829 like, wow, I don't know what that is. We all 00:19:49.829 --> 00:19:52.670 got cameras now, so it seems like it's easy to 00:19:52.670 --> 00:19:56.029 catch something on camera that nobody can explain. 00:19:56.470 --> 00:19:58.150 And now there's AI, so you can't tell what's 00:19:58.150 --> 00:20:03.390 real and what's not real. Speaking of AI, okay. 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:07.960 My Instagram feeds and I don't get on TikTok 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:14.220 that much but Instagram is full of AI it's everywhere 00:20:14.220 --> 00:20:20.160 like on 70 probably more than 70 % of the videos 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:22.559 that are showing up in my feed have something 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:27.319 to do with AI and I think it's because I See 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:31.140 it and it registers as something's a little bit 00:20:31.140 --> 00:20:35.220 different. So I watch it And then once I watch 00:20:35.220 --> 00:20:38.019 it, here comes another one and another one and 00:20:38.019 --> 00:20:41.799 another one. The algorithms work, man. And it's 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:44.779 not that I'm super interested in the AI videos. 00:20:45.019 --> 00:20:48.519 It's that they're kind of intriguing because 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:52.920 they're so good. Yeah. Well, it's that and it's 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:55.019 click bait. I mean, just like anything else, 00:20:55.059 --> 00:20:57.279 you know, put a good thumbnail out there. It 00:20:57.279 --> 00:20:58.940 didn't have anything to do with what you're doing, 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:01.160 but somebody would click on it. That's the idea. 00:21:01.589 --> 00:21:03.670 The algorithm works. Once you click on something 00:21:03.670 --> 00:21:05.450 and watch something, it's going to feed you more 00:21:05.450 --> 00:21:12.750 of that. I've got to mention, I texted Ryan Hughes 00:21:12.750 --> 00:21:17.930 about some of the AI stuff that he's doing, because 00:21:17.930 --> 00:21:20.250 at first I thought it was just crazy. I mean, 00:21:20.390 --> 00:21:24.849 come on. But it's funny. His stuff is funny. 00:21:27.730 --> 00:21:32.190 So I just want to talk to him about it. And I 00:21:32.190 --> 00:21:33.769 just thought it was funny. I don't know if it's 00:21:33.769 --> 00:21:37.910 crazy or ingenious. I don't know. Some of it's 00:21:37.910 --> 00:21:39.509 good. I've seen, I've seen a lot of hits too. 00:21:39.529 --> 00:21:42.089 And I've been, I've not texted him yet, but I 00:21:42.089 --> 00:21:44.210 thought the same thing. I want to know how he's 00:21:44.210 --> 00:21:48.549 doing it. Like one of the last ones, he was like 00:21:48.549 --> 00:21:51.150 welding on a soldering on a compressor, a line 00:21:51.150 --> 00:21:53.130 blows. He grabs a hold of the compressor and 00:21:53.130 --> 00:21:56.529 takes it off into space. I'm sorry. That's just 00:21:56.529 --> 00:22:00.710 funny. That's funny. Yeah, there's some good 00:22:00.710 --> 00:22:02.470 ones out there. I think you can just feed it. 00:22:02.470 --> 00:22:04.049 So I was talking to a guy at work today and he 00:22:04.049 --> 00:22:05.910 was showing me similar stuff and it's an app 00:22:05.910 --> 00:22:08.569 that he has. And you feed it a picture and you 00:22:08.569 --> 00:22:12.430 say, hey, make this, do this. And it makes a 00:22:12.430 --> 00:22:15.710 video and it does it all. And it's like, that's 00:22:15.710 --> 00:22:22.190 kind of crazy. Yeah, it is. But at the same time, 00:22:22.210 --> 00:22:25.569 you've got to be able to have the imagination 00:22:25.569 --> 00:22:28.490 to tell it what to do with the with the picture 00:22:28.490 --> 00:22:31.890 come up with something funny. So I don't know. 00:22:32.869 --> 00:22:37.630 It's different. It's different. And it seems 00:22:37.630 --> 00:22:41.690 to be everywhere now. Everywhere. Even on YouTube. 00:22:41.849 --> 00:22:44.589 YouTube's a little different. If you're going 00:22:44.589 --> 00:22:47.990 to post a YouTube video, they ask you if it's 00:22:47.990 --> 00:22:51.630 altered content or if it's AI. I think that's 00:22:51.630 --> 00:22:55.549 on purpose to... Either discourage it or let 00:22:55.549 --> 00:22:59.349 advertisers know that there might be some Altered 00:22:59.349 --> 00:23:02.430 content in the video. Yeah, I just don't see 00:23:02.430 --> 00:23:06.769 as much of the AI stuff on YouTube. I don't Yeah, 00:23:06.769 --> 00:23:09.710 I think it's probably less. I mean you're getting 00:23:09.710 --> 00:23:12.769 a lot of those quick, you know videos on Instagram 00:23:12.769 --> 00:23:15.789 and Tik Tok and stuff like that. It's easier 00:23:15.789 --> 00:23:18.630 to throw those out there YouTube's more of a 00:23:18.630 --> 00:23:21.049 long form They've been trying to fight with their 00:23:21.049 --> 00:23:24.599 shorts, but it's more of a long form It is and 00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:28.920 for me I enjoy doing a long form So mark he's 00:23:28.920 --> 00:23:31.619 asking critters. Are you using the online booking 00:23:31.619 --> 00:23:37.579 from house call pro? Okay, um Actually, I just 00:23:37.579 --> 00:23:44.200 signed up for their a AI answering service so 00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:47.160 that they know y 'all might know that I used 00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:50.190 to be on board with free to grow and they were 00:23:50.190 --> 00:23:52.869 doing this AI answering and they would book calls 00:23:52.869 --> 00:23:57.309 and all this other stuff. But I had a little 00:23:57.309 --> 00:24:00.029 bit of difficulty with that. And part of it was 00:24:00.029 --> 00:24:05.869 data entry into my customer base. They were unable 00:24:05.869 --> 00:24:09.329 to do that. And I had another problem, but I 00:24:09.329 --> 00:24:12.109 quit using them. So I'm trying this Housecall 00:24:12.109 --> 00:24:18.210 Pro because they can identify if it's a new customer 00:24:18.210 --> 00:24:20.849 or if it's an old customer they can put them 00:24:20.849 --> 00:24:23.349 on my schedule and if it's a new customer they 00:24:23.349 --> 00:24:26.690 can create the new customer and put in the information 00:24:26.690 --> 00:24:30.490 name address and phone number which is a big 00:24:30.490 --> 00:24:34.450 help that saves a little bit of time and in the 00:24:34.450 --> 00:24:40.539 process I had to Create a link for the online 00:24:40.539 --> 00:24:43.099 Booking which is basically something you can 00:24:43.099 --> 00:24:45.740 embed in a website or somebody can book an appointment 00:24:45.740 --> 00:24:50.220 through your website But I don't have a website 00:24:50.220 --> 00:24:54.319 the website that I maintain is my YouTube page 00:24:54.319 --> 00:25:00.759 and I used to maintain a website and Dude, I 00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:04.779 read like a 700 page book on search engine optimization. 00:25:04.779 --> 00:25:07.470 I really know how to do that, but it didn't do 00:25:07.470 --> 00:25:09.670 me any good. It was a lot of work for nothing. 00:25:10.890 --> 00:25:13.990 I get more benefit out of maintaining my YouTube 00:25:13.990 --> 00:25:17.630 page and putting the effort into that. So like 00:25:17.630 --> 00:25:21.509 on my business page on Google, when it says your 00:25:21.509 --> 00:25:27.029 website, my link is to my YouTube page. That's 00:25:27.029 --> 00:25:29.549 really the only link between my YouTube and my 00:25:29.549 --> 00:25:33.009 business is that. So people go to my website. 00:25:33.109 --> 00:25:34.670 They're gonna go to my YouTube page and they're 00:25:34.670 --> 00:25:37.589 gonna get to see my work So it works out. Yeah, 00:25:38.029 --> 00:25:40.410 I mean if you're doing good honest work, man 00:25:40.410 --> 00:25:42.470 That's really all you need these days. There's 00:25:42.470 --> 00:25:44.210 too many people out there. Just trying to sell 00:25:44.210 --> 00:25:51.670 something I know but you know We still have on 00:25:54.250 --> 00:25:57.589 some customers who get lured in by the low prices 00:25:57.589 --> 00:26:00.430 of some kind of jack leg doing something. And 00:26:00.430 --> 00:26:02.769 I'm still having to fight against that even with 00:26:02.769 --> 00:26:06.109 customers that I've had for years and years. 00:26:07.109 --> 00:26:09.609 Like they might disappear for six months and 00:26:09.609 --> 00:26:11.650 then they give me a call and go out to something 00:26:11.650 --> 00:26:14.309 and I call them on the phone. I'm like, who's 00:26:14.309 --> 00:26:17.430 been out here? This is some crappy ass work. 00:26:20.539 --> 00:26:23.779 They were like, yeah, yeah, I tried somebody 00:26:23.779 --> 00:26:27.359 on. I hope you're not mad at me. You know what 00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:29.579 I mean? They always come back, but I still have 00:26:29.579 --> 00:26:31.960 to fight that. I ain't mad at you. I'm willing 00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:44.039 to fix it. Yeah. I have one where this property 00:26:44.039 --> 00:26:48.640 manager used somebody. For a thousand dollars 00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:51.420 to install like a little one ton mini split one 00:26:51.420 --> 00:26:56.000 head one ton mini split And um like a month later 00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:57.900 at what I'm working and he calls me to go out 00:26:57.900 --> 00:27:01.380 there And I and I drug my feet and like the first 00:27:01.380 --> 00:27:03.019 day he asked me to go out there. I was like no 00:27:03.019 --> 00:27:07.180 I'm sorry. I'm busy And and I was I really was 00:27:07.180 --> 00:27:10.299 busy and um I don't know who he got to fix it, 00:27:10.299 --> 00:27:14.500 but kind of Kind of pisses me off a little bit. 00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.319 Yeah, I mean if it's just put in you got customers 00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:19.539 that are that need you like the hell with you 00:27:19.539 --> 00:27:21.980 man Like call your buddy back. That's what I 00:27:21.980 --> 00:27:24.200 you know, and then they call back and they never 00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:27.680 get hold of it Yeah, kind of what you get. I've 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:29.619 seen some crazy things on the commercial side, 00:27:29.859 --> 00:27:32.460 man You go behind some people and it's like oh 00:27:32.460 --> 00:27:36.819 my what are you doing? Mark that's a good idea. 00:27:36.819 --> 00:27:39.200 He's saying embed that online link in your YouTube 00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:43.930 description and social media outlets Yeah, no, 00:27:43.930 --> 00:27:53.690 I think I will Let me see what Jason says Yeah, 00:27:53.690 --> 00:27:59.049 you gotta be done twice And that particular that 00:27:59.049 --> 00:28:03.630 particular customer um Yeah, he's doubly on my 00:28:03.630 --> 00:28:08.869 naughty list right now You know what I mean you 00:28:08.869 --> 00:28:10.990 got customers that get on that list sometimes 00:28:10.990 --> 00:28:15.529 and I've had some where the, the managers, you 00:28:15.529 --> 00:28:17.529 know, we took care of a restaurant for a long 00:28:17.529 --> 00:28:21.029 time years ago. The managers had the managers 00:28:21.029 --> 00:28:23.170 took care of the service calls and stuff. So 00:28:23.170 --> 00:28:25.390 they would, they started with a handyman company. 00:28:26.029 --> 00:28:28.410 And then when it didn't work and it was problematic, 00:28:28.410 --> 00:28:30.950 they would call us. And I went down and talked 00:28:30.950 --> 00:28:32.309 to one of the managers one time. I said, next 00:28:32.309 --> 00:28:34.410 time you call me and I come out here and your 00:28:34.410 --> 00:28:36.490 handyman's been here first. I'm not touching. 00:28:37.170 --> 00:28:38.690 And I took pictures of everything. And I'm like, 00:28:38.690 --> 00:28:40.410 look, this is what you paid for. I don't know 00:28:40.410 --> 00:28:44.099 what you paid the guy. but you paid too much 00:28:44.099 --> 00:28:49.119 and I basically told them to stop. I worked for 00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:53.220 a big company here in town and I got a call to 00:28:53.220 --> 00:28:58.339 a hotel and it was about an Aon unit. They had 00:28:58.339 --> 00:29:01.420 this great big Aon unit that was actually, it 00:29:01.420 --> 00:29:03.200 looked like it was on another building, but it 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:06.940 was ducted to the hotel and it provided air for 00:29:06.940 --> 00:29:14.039 the hallways. Okay. I was called over there for 00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:16.220 that. And while I'm on the roof, I'm walking 00:29:16.220 --> 00:29:19.660 around and I'm seeing like for the kitchen, one 00:29:19.660 --> 00:29:21.920 of these exhaust vents just laying over on its 00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:24.960 side. I walked past a condenser for something 00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:29.200 else and the panel's off. And I get over to the 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:32.000 Aon unit and I spent an hour tracing down wires 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:33.779 trying to figure out why this compressor won't 00:29:33.779 --> 00:29:37.400 come on. And I find where the maintenance man 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.470 has cut the wires on the pressure switch. to 00:29:41.470 --> 00:29:45.369 test them and they had spade connectors on them. 00:29:45.529 --> 00:29:52.309 All I had to do was pull them off. I went right 00:29:52.309 --> 00:29:57.130 down to their manager and said, this guy is going 00:29:57.130 --> 00:30:00.809 to cost you money. He's making my job twice as 00:30:00.809 --> 00:30:05.849 hard. He's leaving stuff exposed up on the roof. 00:30:06.289 --> 00:30:08.890 He told me he leaves it exposed like that to 00:30:08.890 --> 00:30:12.250 remind him that he's got to go back and do something 00:30:12.250 --> 00:30:16.869 I Was just like I went back and told my boss 00:30:16.869 --> 00:30:20.210 I said um Y 'all might want to think twice before 00:30:20.210 --> 00:30:23.329 you take calls from these people Yeah, because 00:30:23.329 --> 00:30:26.170 of their maintenance man you get a lot of that 00:30:26.170 --> 00:30:28.210 commercial That's a lot of the maintenance guys 00:30:28.210 --> 00:30:30.730 are always the first ones there and some of them 00:30:30.730 --> 00:30:33.230 are good Some of them are not and they're all 00:30:33.230 --> 00:30:35.630 willing to get in there Especially you're talking 00:30:35.630 --> 00:30:37.890 to industrial maintenance guys. They're they're 00:30:37.890 --> 00:30:39.329 willing to get their hands in there and do some 00:30:39.329 --> 00:30:40.430 stuff even when they don't know what they're 00:30:40.430 --> 00:30:43.289 doing. That's on the job training right there. 00:30:44.150 --> 00:30:47.509 Yep. Speaking of maintenance, I just picked up 00:30:47.509 --> 00:30:49.910 a new apartment complex and they've got these 00:30:49.910 --> 00:30:54.009 crazy apartment style air handlers where the 00:30:54.009 --> 00:30:56.289 motor's behind the evaporator coil and there's 00:30:56.289 --> 00:31:00.289 really no good way to get it out. They called 00:31:00.289 --> 00:31:03.769 me to one of these apartments and didn't tell 00:31:03.769 --> 00:31:06.670 me anything. I walk in the apartment and there's 00:31:06.670 --> 00:31:11.250 a new blower motor sitting on the floor. So I 00:31:11.250 --> 00:31:14.849 immediately asked the people living there, I 00:31:14.849 --> 00:31:16.410 was like, well, how long has your air conditioner 00:31:16.410 --> 00:31:19.150 been out? It's been out for like seven weeks. 00:31:19.970 --> 00:31:22.230 They've tried to fix it three different times 00:31:22.230 --> 00:31:25.930 and they couldn't. So I pulled this cover because 00:31:25.930 --> 00:31:28.549 these air handlers, basically they have the filter 00:31:28.549 --> 00:31:31.230 right there on the wall and they have a metal 00:31:31.230 --> 00:31:34.750 cover over them. I pulled the cover off and this 00:31:34.750 --> 00:31:37.829 thing is completely disassembled. They were trying 00:31:37.829 --> 00:31:44.490 to change the blower motor and disconnected the 00:31:44.490 --> 00:31:47.769 coil where they could and yanked it down and 00:31:47.769 --> 00:31:51.950 then they boogered up the shaft on this blower 00:31:51.950 --> 00:31:54.609 motor and they were trying to pound it through 00:31:54.609 --> 00:32:01.089 on top of this coil. So the coil's damaged. And 00:32:01.089 --> 00:32:05.630 the air handler's in pieces. And I was just like, 00:32:05.650 --> 00:32:08.049 man, this is gonna take me forever to try to 00:32:08.049 --> 00:32:11.710 fix this. And then I got to talking to the customers 00:32:11.710 --> 00:32:13.509 and they said, well, last time somebody came 00:32:13.509 --> 00:32:16.250 out, they added some freon to it and it worked 00:32:16.250 --> 00:32:18.869 fine. And that was it. I was like, you know what? 00:32:19.369 --> 00:32:23.849 I'm out. It's replace or nothing. You know what 00:32:23.849 --> 00:32:27.569 I mean? It was that bad. It was terrible. Some 00:32:27.569 --> 00:32:29.750 of those are hard to access. I've worked on some 00:32:29.750 --> 00:32:32.430 hotel units that are similar. They shove them 00:32:32.430 --> 00:32:35.950 in this tight closet. Once it's in there, you 00:32:35.950 --> 00:32:39.690 almost got to pull it out to do any work on it. 00:32:40.210 --> 00:32:43.089 Well, I did one the other day. I had access to 00:32:43.089 --> 00:32:46.109 the back of the air handler. I just cut it open, 00:32:47.210 --> 00:32:48.769 pulled it out the back. That was the easiest 00:32:48.769 --> 00:32:53.839 way to do it. And the reason I did that, I could 00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:56.200 have reached over the coil and changed them like 00:32:56.200 --> 00:33:00.259 that, put some cardboard down and drop the squirrel 00:33:00.259 --> 00:33:02.279 cage and try to pull the blower out. I've done 00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:05.019 it many times. But I looked at the shaft and 00:33:05.019 --> 00:33:07.200 the shaft had a lot of rust on it. And I was 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:10.819 afraid I wouldn't be able to do it. Yeah. So 00:33:10.819 --> 00:33:12.460 that's why I pulled it out the back. Because 00:33:12.460 --> 00:33:15.400 in that situation, if you got to put a wheel 00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:20.000 puller on it, you can't do it. You're going to 00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.759 have to pull the coil out. That was the beauty 00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:24.940 of a lot of the hotels and those tight spots 00:33:24.940 --> 00:33:27.420 is they would keep a spare. So when they had 00:33:27.420 --> 00:33:30.440 one go down, they would take it out and they 00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:31.960 had a place in their shop where you could wire 00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:34.480 it up and run it to test it and figure out what's 00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:36.480 going on. You fix it. And then they've got another 00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:38.079 spare. So when something goes bad, they take 00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:40.259 that and put it in, take the other one out. And 00:33:40.259 --> 00:33:44.319 that kind of works well. I worked for, there 00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.619 was a, it was like apartments, but it was like 00:33:47.619 --> 00:33:51.019 a dormitory for our little college we have here, 00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:55.279 Albany State, actually it was a different campus 00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:57.380 for a different school, but now it's all Albany 00:33:57.380 --> 00:34:02.740 State. But they had these, what are called vertical 00:34:02.740 --> 00:34:05.779 P -tacks. You know what those are? Yeah. Basically 00:34:05.779 --> 00:34:08.000 they got duct work coming out the top of them. 00:34:08.059 --> 00:34:14.570 Yeah. And I convinced them to buy an extra. So 00:34:14.570 --> 00:34:17.150 that I could take one that had failed take it 00:34:17.150 --> 00:34:19.809 to the shop fix it while the extras keeping the 00:34:19.809 --> 00:34:23.570 apartment cool and Then when I get the one fixed 00:34:23.570 --> 00:34:25.650 they just put it in storage until that happens 00:34:25.650 --> 00:34:30.309 again. That's the best way to do it. I Just Made 00:34:30.309 --> 00:34:35.909 sense to me. Yeah Oh Victor's talking about those 00:34:35.909 --> 00:34:43.460 rain that is a really stupid design. Rheem does 00:34:43.460 --> 00:34:46.880 make those. And I'll be honest, that is the first 00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:49.420 apartment style air handler, that's what I call 00:34:49.420 --> 00:34:53.139 them, that I had ever seen. And I got in touch 00:34:53.139 --> 00:34:55.840 with my rude supplier and I said, are these things 00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.679 supposed to be disposable? I mean, that's the 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:01.679 first thought you get. I mean, you got to remove 00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:03.340 the coil to change the boiler motor. That don't 00:35:03.340 --> 00:35:06.500 make any sense. There's a lot of bad designs 00:35:06.500 --> 00:35:10.440 out there, man, on all kinds of equipment. They 00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:12.960 don't think about the guy that has to service 00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:16.440 it or work on it. They put it together and they 00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:18.760 ship it out the door. That's their job is build 00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:21.559 it, ship it out. You make money if you don't 00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:27.159 ship stuff. You know, I got into like almost 00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:29.460 like an argument with an engineer on some of 00:35:29.460 --> 00:35:32.179 my comments one time because I was complaining 00:35:32.179 --> 00:35:39.860 about the engineers designing stuff. He basically 00:35:39.860 --> 00:35:43.820 said that if they designed an air conditioner 00:35:43.820 --> 00:35:47.280 that was easy to work on, it would be so big 00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:51.360 and so expensive, nobody would buy it. And he 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.840 said his hands were tied by the accountants. 00:35:53.860 --> 00:35:57.300 There was only so much they could do. So I called 00:35:57.300 --> 00:36:01.119 him out on that because if you remember not too 00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:04.260 long ago, Riem used to make two style condensers. 00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:06.460 They would have the rectangles and the cubes. 00:36:07.750 --> 00:36:09.869 The cubes were cheaper, but they were harder 00:36:09.869 --> 00:36:15.829 to work on. And I almost always bought the rectangles. 00:36:15.869 --> 00:36:18.210 And I know a lot of contractors that did the 00:36:18.210 --> 00:36:20.250 same thing because they were easy to work on. 00:36:20.949 --> 00:36:23.369 So I told him about that. And I'm like, you know, 00:36:23.369 --> 00:36:26.130 that's not true. If you make it easy to work 00:36:26.130 --> 00:36:31.010 on, people will buy it. And let's do that in 00:36:31.010 --> 00:36:36.119 the end. Yeah. So they can design some stuff 00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:38.920 that's easy to work on and that's just a case 00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:43.360 example where they should Yeah, no, I've kind 00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:45.699 of I've seen it from the other side now So it's 00:36:45.699 --> 00:36:48.159 a lot of hoops to jump through to change stuff 00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:51.539 and it doesn't get always well thought out in 00:36:51.539 --> 00:36:54.380 the beginning You know, they just put it together 00:36:54.380 --> 00:36:56.780 and they're trying to Everybody's kind of trying 00:36:56.780 --> 00:36:58.800 to compete with the other guys. So they're trying 00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:01.889 to put it in the same size box and everything 00:37:01.889 --> 00:37:04.429 gets shoved in a smaller and smaller cabinet 00:37:04.429 --> 00:37:10.150 harder to work on. Yeah. Speaking of same size 00:37:10.150 --> 00:37:14.630 box, you know, carrier has basically had a monopoly 00:37:14.630 --> 00:37:18.929 on commercial rooftop units for years. I mean, 00:37:18.949 --> 00:37:21.670 there's been others, but like 80 % of them have 00:37:21.670 --> 00:37:25.269 been carriers. And now companies like Linux and 00:37:25.269 --> 00:37:29.690 Rheem are making rooftop units in the exact same 00:37:29.690 --> 00:37:35.150 shape as the carriers and similar layout, similar 00:37:35.150 --> 00:37:40.610 design, but they're made to fit on the curb and 00:37:40.610 --> 00:37:43.550 just, you know what I mean? So they're using 00:37:43.550 --> 00:37:46.230 the same shape. The old carrier weathermakers 00:37:46.230 --> 00:37:50.969 worked well, man. Yeah. They don't build them 00:37:50.969 --> 00:37:53.250 quite the same anymore, but I've worked on a 00:37:53.250 --> 00:37:58.269 lot of carrier here. Yeah. We see a lot of their 00:37:58.269 --> 00:38:02.329 humidifiers up here. local gas state station 00:38:02.329 --> 00:38:05.710 chain that they would To keep the refrigeration 00:38:05.710 --> 00:38:07.670 doors from condensate may use to minimizers, 00:38:07.730 --> 00:38:10.730 which is same carrier package in it It's just 00:38:10.730 --> 00:38:13.829 got a reheat coil in it and a sub cooling coil. 00:38:14.250 --> 00:38:20.510 So they they D home really well D home is definitely 00:38:20.510 --> 00:38:23.230 something a lot of restaurants around here could 00:38:23.230 --> 00:38:28.199 use I feel like sometimes there was one in particular 00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:30.940 that was a Mexican restaurant that had tile floors 00:38:30.940 --> 00:38:37.000 and the tile would start to sweat. And I knew 00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.079 the company that was caring for that restaurant 00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:41.420 and everything seemed to be working fine, but 00:38:41.420 --> 00:38:44.380 they could have used some de -home capabilities 00:38:44.380 --> 00:38:49.880 in that particular place right there. Because 00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:53.750 we're not trying, I've seen, There's a couple 00:38:53.750 --> 00:38:55.949 of YouTubers that work out with us and do rooftop 00:38:55.949 --> 00:39:00.409 stuff. And they might have a regular air conditioner 00:39:00.409 --> 00:39:02.969 on one side of the building. And then on the 00:39:02.969 --> 00:39:04.469 other side of the building, they got a swamp 00:39:04.469 --> 00:39:08.170 cooler. I'm like, you're humidifying a space 00:39:08.170 --> 00:39:12.710 and then removing humidity in the same space. 00:39:12.769 --> 00:39:15.670 That doesn't make any sense. Down here, there's 00:39:15.670 --> 00:39:17.969 so much humidity, you could never, ever dream 00:39:17.969 --> 00:39:21.300 of doing something like that. Yeah, we get we 00:39:21.300 --> 00:39:25.519 get humidity here too. It's uh, it's it's Tricky 00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:27.559 because a lot of those don't get you know thought 00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:29.900 out well enough that you're not you know, especially 00:39:29.900 --> 00:39:31.599 restaurants You got to have that makeup there 00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:34.360 too. So a lot of them a lot of the makeup areas 00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:37.860 are turning into You have an air conditioner 00:39:37.860 --> 00:39:39.500 on them too to be able to remove some of that 00:39:39.500 --> 00:39:41.559 moisture as you're bringing in, you know outside 00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:44.000 there I've treated if you're bringing it in. 00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:47.980 Yeah, that's where I was initiated into the Aon 00:39:47.980 --> 00:39:51.300 units Initially is the makeup air units with 00:39:51.300 --> 00:39:55.179 compressors in them and stuff. Yeah, so Basically 00:39:55.179 --> 00:39:58.519 the ones that I remember they were taken outside 00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:02.360 air filtering it Cooling it and then blowing 00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:05.960 it in as your makeup air Yeah, there's a couple 00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:07.760 different configuration. I mean, that's what 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:12.320 I work on now. It's like a dough as unit So it's 00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:14.679 a there's different configurations in different 00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:16.940 ways you can do it, but there's there's a lot 00:40:16.940 --> 00:40:20.429 of them out there And they are expensive. They 00:40:20.429 --> 00:40:23.150 are. They are three to four times more expensive 00:40:23.150 --> 00:40:25.230 than a regular package unit. Let's put it that 00:40:25.230 --> 00:40:29.530 way. Yep. They're hot. It's doing a lot of work. 00:40:30.829 --> 00:40:33.530 A lot of times they're built better too than 00:40:33.530 --> 00:40:38.469 your basic package unit. These aren't on an assembly 00:40:38.469 --> 00:40:40.150 line that you're building the same thing every 00:40:40.150 --> 00:40:43.900 day and just shoving it out the door. Ours are 00:40:43.900 --> 00:40:46.360 engineered to order so you can order somebody 00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:49.039 some engineer comes in and designs it the building 00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.380 and airflow and all this other stuff and You 00:40:52.380 --> 00:40:55.800 can add all the bells and whistles you want Yeah, 00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:58.480 and and when you open up a control panel, it 00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:06.340 can look crazy It can be intimidating The commercial 00:41:06.340 --> 00:41:08.539 stuff that I have worked on like rooftop units, 00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:12.059 you know, I'm more familiar with a row of contactors 00:41:12.059 --> 00:41:14.079 and stuff like that. And now you might have a 00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:18.699 communicating board with, I don't know, some 00:41:18.699 --> 00:41:21.500 kind of 5G device being controlled in another 00:41:21.500 --> 00:41:29.320 state. Yeah. That's a UC 600. So that's our control 00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:32.980 board. And everything, the program and everything 00:41:32.980 --> 00:41:35.860 resides in here. You got IMC communications, 00:41:36.019 --> 00:41:38.260 so it'll have expansion modules and they can 00:41:38.260 --> 00:41:41.440 do different things. I think something like 20 00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:43.599 inputs and outputs on this and you get analog 00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:48.480 inputs, binary outputs. You can basically program 00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:52.059 them to do anything you want. It sounds confusing. 00:41:52.380 --> 00:41:57.280 I worked on top of a, it was that cosmetic store 00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:01.320 ultra and they had this fancy new Linux and they 00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:05.599 had on sensors all throughout the building and 00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:08.239 they had like four different package units. But 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:12.639 the sensors. were feeding input to these control 00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:16.139 modules that were being controlled from Pennsylvania. 00:42:17.739 --> 00:42:22.380 And they basically had to tell me what was wrong, 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:27.539 because I couldn't read their sensors and tell 00:42:27.539 --> 00:42:29.460 them what temperature it's supposed to be reading. 00:42:29.900 --> 00:42:32.400 They told me that this number one sensor was 00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:35.199 reading like 80 degrees. And actually, it was 00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:37.539 reading too cold, and the air condition wouldn't 00:42:37.539 --> 00:42:41.030 blow in that area. So I had to go change a sensor. 00:42:41.050 --> 00:42:43.110 I had to actually change it twice. But those 00:42:43.110 --> 00:42:45.989 things, yeah, they can be intimidating. There's 00:42:45.989 --> 00:42:48.869 a lot going on there. It's like everything else. 00:42:48.949 --> 00:42:50.610 You got to understand it. Understand the sequence 00:42:50.610 --> 00:42:52.630 of operations, what's supposed to happen, what's 00:42:52.630 --> 00:42:55.010 not happening. All of them have different ways 00:42:55.010 --> 00:42:59.650 and good ways of getting to a diagnosis. A little 00:42:59.650 --> 00:43:09.630 bit of understanding goes a long way. Jason are 00:43:09.630 --> 00:43:15.389 you talking about on off -site management? That's 00:43:15.389 --> 00:43:19.010 yeah Similar to what you were saying they they 00:43:19.010 --> 00:43:22.369 do a lot on especially on chain stores around 00:43:22.369 --> 00:43:25.849 here whatever it is, you know Lowe's and hobby 00:43:25.849 --> 00:43:28.429 lobby and all those places they have a third 00:43:28.429 --> 00:43:32.769 party that monitors and Controls everything so 00:43:32.769 --> 00:43:36.639 they set the temperatures and you know A lot 00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:39.599 of it's verifying your sensors. So even, you 00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:43.099 know, with the DOES unit or whatever it is, chillers, 00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:45.300 they're all the same. If you've got a sensor 00:43:45.300 --> 00:43:47.000 that's just like a thermostat, right? If you 00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:49.460 got a sensor that's controlling something and 00:43:49.460 --> 00:43:51.500 the sensor is not reading right, well, whatever 00:43:51.500 --> 00:43:53.119 is controlling is not going to do the right thing 00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:57.699 because it's not reading right. Exactly. I worked, 00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:00.920 well, when I worked for a bigger company before 00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:04.420 I went out on my own, I went to a call at a school 00:44:04.420 --> 00:44:09.500 system. and the problem was the thermostat. Thermostat 00:44:09.500 --> 00:44:11.420 just wouldn't call for the system to come on. 00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:13.760 So I go to replace this thermostat and it's got 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:17.159 these two extra wires on it that I didn't really 00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:20.079 know what they were for. So I just kind of pushed 00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:22.159 them to the side. I replaced the thermostat going 00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:27.559 about my business. By the time I get back to 00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:31.699 the shop, I have shut the whole school's air 00:44:31.699 --> 00:44:34.440 conditioning system down because that one thermostat 00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:38.050 can't communicate with their offsite management 00:44:38.050 --> 00:44:41.070 system. And I was like, well, it was a thermostat. 00:44:41.170 --> 00:44:42.550 What am I supposed to do? It was like, well, 00:44:42.590 --> 00:44:47.130 we got to order one specifically from them for 00:44:47.130 --> 00:44:50.590 that. And so I had to go back and put the one 00:44:50.590 --> 00:44:56.440 that was not working back on the wall. Yeah, 00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:58.400 you got to be careful. Communication is a big 00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:01.059 thing in those, too, because like I said, if 00:45:01.059 --> 00:45:03.380 you've got that controller and then expansion 00:45:03.380 --> 00:45:05.599 modules, they all have to talk to each other, 00:45:05.659 --> 00:45:09.440 so they're doing the right thing. Yeah. And those 00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:12.420 were controlling those, I know you've seen them, 00:45:12.420 --> 00:45:14.420 those barred systems that hang on the outside 00:45:14.420 --> 00:45:18.960 of the wall. Yep. At that particular job, I worked 00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.360 on plenty of those. They're a pain to work on, 00:45:21.900 --> 00:45:27.119 too. Tight space. Yeah. Changing blower motors 00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:37.619 in them can be a pain. Jason says zone stat. 00:45:38.179 --> 00:45:44.000 Yeah, I mean it's a zone sensor. I don't work 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:46.159 on a water commercial anymore. Most of the commercial 00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:49.880 I work on now that I'm on my own is normally 00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.199 light commercial. Maybe seven and a half tons 00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:59.980 or smaller. That's not too bad. That keeps you 00:45:59.980 --> 00:46:02.340 right. I mean, that's probably good work for 00:46:02.340 --> 00:46:04.239 you too, rather than some of the residential 00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:08.519 stuff. Yeah, stuff like that. If it's seven and 00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:11.139 a half tons or smaller, normally everything I 00:46:11.139 --> 00:46:14.440 can do by myself. I don't need any help lifting 00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:17.320 a compressor or anything like that. Although 00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:20.460 I did work on a seven and a half ton compressor 00:46:20.460 --> 00:46:23.440 and it was, oh man, I've forgotten what it's 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:27.889 called, but it's... It's all put together with 00:46:27.889 --> 00:46:30.829 bolts and sideways and it's got pistons on the 00:46:30.829 --> 00:46:33.449 sides of it. Semi -hermetic. Semi -hermetic. 00:46:33.590 --> 00:46:36.369 Okay. Yeah. And I had to get a crane to lift 00:46:36.369 --> 00:46:41.309 that up on the roof. That thing was heavy. I 00:46:41.309 --> 00:46:43.849 played with a few of those myself. They are heavy. 00:46:44.429 --> 00:46:47.929 I got to have a crane. And first of all, when 00:46:47.929 --> 00:46:49.869 I diagnosed it, I was like, it's just a seven 00:46:49.869 --> 00:46:52.590 and a half ton. I might be able to pull. No. 00:46:53.650 --> 00:46:56.650 You better get you a crane those things are that's 00:46:56.650 --> 00:46:59.590 got to be 350 pounds or more. I don't know. It's 00:46:59.590 --> 00:47:03.690 heavy Yeah, there's I've done some 40 ton and 00:47:03.690 --> 00:47:05.230 they'll send me hermetics in there I mean, it's 00:47:05.230 --> 00:47:08.409 like a it's like the um engine in your car I 00:47:08.409 --> 00:47:12.230 know and you can't even if sometimes you can't 00:47:12.230 --> 00:47:15.409 get them all directly in place And I thought 00:47:15.409 --> 00:47:17.809 some that you know, you get it set to where the 00:47:17.809 --> 00:47:20.460 crane can reach And then you've got to get that 00:47:20.460 --> 00:47:23.820 thing. It might just be six inches to the left, 00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:27.260 but trying to get that on a bolt six inches to 00:47:27.260 --> 00:47:29.579 the left of the pry bar and, you know, leaning 00:47:29.579 --> 00:47:32.519 leaning into it. That's a man. You can kill yourself 00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:35.300 for that. I was working for a company one time 00:47:35.300 --> 00:47:37.840 and we were working on a church and this condenser 00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.079 was on the ground. It was a 10 ton condenser. 00:47:41.139 --> 00:47:46.230 And if you remember these. the compressor had 00:47:46.230 --> 00:47:50.030 a breaker of itself inside the condenser. You 00:47:50.030 --> 00:47:51.650 know what I'm talking about? I've seen something 00:47:51.650 --> 00:47:54.210 like that. It sounds like a carrier. Yes, it 00:47:54.210 --> 00:47:58.010 was a carrier and it tripped the breaker and 00:47:58.010 --> 00:48:00.130 it had burned one of the lugs on the compressor 00:48:00.130 --> 00:48:05.690 and my boss asked me to get the compressor in 00:48:05.690 --> 00:48:10.469 the back of my van. And I'm looking at this thing 00:48:10.469 --> 00:48:13.369 and I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. There's 00:48:13.369 --> 00:48:18.150 no way. It was in a fenced enclosure and I was 00:48:18.150 --> 00:48:21.750 able to pry it up and then roll it a little bit 00:48:21.750 --> 00:48:23.909 at a time and get it out of the fenced enclosure, 00:48:24.489 --> 00:48:26.250 but there was no way in the hell I could have 00:48:26.250 --> 00:48:30.610 picked it up. I just could not do it. So I left 00:48:30.610 --> 00:48:33.590 it there sitting on the ground. It didn't go 00:48:33.590 --> 00:48:35.329 nowhere. Ain't no way else to pick it up either. 00:48:36.869 --> 00:48:40.619 Oh man. I've seen some in some bad spots. Those 00:48:40.619 --> 00:48:43.239 old carriers, depending on which one you're talking 00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:47.260 about, they were 06D compressors, I think. That 00:48:47.260 --> 00:48:51.559 sounds right. They were massive and heavy. Very 00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:54.880 heavy. I've seen some tricky places, man. My 00:48:54.880 --> 00:49:00.380 discharge line was a seven -eighths. Probably 00:49:00.380 --> 00:49:01.780 an inch and an eighth or something. An inch and 00:49:01.780 --> 00:49:06.179 an eighth. That's big for the stuff that I normally 00:49:06.179 --> 00:49:12.360 work on. That's big. Yeah. No, that's, that's 00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:15.360 the fun stuff to work on though. And then, and 00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:19.039 then now we had to use two by fours to get the 00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:21.119 new compressor in place. You know, it's sitting 00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:24.440 on little springs. So you got to lift it up just 00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:26.420 a little bit and get it over those springs. And 00:49:26.420 --> 00:49:27.960 every time you lift it up, one of the springs 00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:31.869 pops out. I said, just moving those things a 00:49:31.869 --> 00:49:34.530 couple inches ain't easy, man. No, it's not. 00:49:34.889 --> 00:49:36.710 Like the one I had to do on the roof with the 00:49:36.710 --> 00:49:40.150 crane, I had like a little roller dolly. The 00:49:40.150 --> 00:49:42.150 crane could just lift it over the edge of the 00:49:42.150 --> 00:49:44.429 building and we had to roll it over there to 00:49:44.429 --> 00:49:47.809 the condenser and then manhandle it in there. 00:49:48.010 --> 00:49:50.929 Yeah. But that was a seven and a half. That was 00:49:50.929 --> 00:49:55.309 the lighter of that type of compressor. Yeah. 00:49:55.309 --> 00:49:57.769 If you're going to do that in A frame and come 00:49:57.769 --> 00:50:02.429 along. works well. Set an A -frame up over wherever 00:50:02.429 --> 00:50:04.269 you need and be able to lift that compressor 00:50:04.269 --> 00:50:07.150 up and get it out. Makes it a little bit easier. 00:50:08.449 --> 00:50:14.849 Good advice. Yeah. Let's see, what are they talking 00:50:14.849 --> 00:50:21.170 about in the chats here? Jason, what are you 00:50:21.170 --> 00:50:22.809 talking about? Just a bigger version of whatever 00:50:22.809 --> 00:50:27.050 works. Yeah, he's talking about your semi -hermetics 00:50:27.050 --> 00:50:30.920 and... Jason works on some big stuff. I've seen. 00:50:31.300 --> 00:50:35.619 It's the same idea. The refrigeration process 00:50:35.619 --> 00:50:38.900 doesn't change, man. The cycle's the same. The 00:50:38.900 --> 00:50:41.780 cycle's the same, the compressors can be huge. 00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:47.340 I remember about the time I quit the last company 00:50:47.340 --> 00:50:50.800 I was working for, I went to a class on a new 00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:54.739 type of chiller that was coming out. And instead 00:50:54.739 --> 00:50:57.980 of one big compressor on this chiller, it had 00:50:57.980 --> 00:51:02.159 like eight, seven and a half ton compressors 00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:06.639 on it. It's redundancy. If you lose one, you're 00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:10.159 not dead in the water. It works, I guess. Yeah, 00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:13.639 but I kind of felt like if one of your, and it's 00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:17.519 all using the same refrigeration circuit. So 00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:19.960 if you have one compressor burn out, it kind 00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:23.349 of contaminates all the others. It can. Yeah, 00:51:23.429 --> 00:51:26.610 that's your trick with tandem circuits like that 00:51:26.610 --> 00:51:29.349 is when one dies, if you got acid, the other 00:51:29.349 --> 00:51:31.690 one, you know, if you don't replace both, a lot 00:51:31.690 --> 00:51:35.190 of times though, you'll kill the other one. Isn't 00:51:35.190 --> 00:51:37.409 that the same case in like the refrigeration 00:51:37.409 --> 00:51:39.969 racks, like in grocery stores and stuff like 00:51:39.969 --> 00:51:42.750 that? Aren't they all tied in together? I think 00:51:42.750 --> 00:51:44.349 a lot of them are. I haven't done a whole lot 00:51:44.349 --> 00:51:47.690 of grocery store work on racks and things, but... 00:51:48.269 --> 00:51:51.230 You can isolate those from the system, which 00:51:51.230 --> 00:51:53.289 is something you can't do in your typical package 00:51:53.289 --> 00:51:55.469 unit. If you've got a tandem pack compressors 00:51:55.469 --> 00:51:58.710 in a package unit, you can't isolate them. So 00:51:58.710 --> 00:52:01.469 a lot of that, all that refrigeration stuff, 00:52:01.489 --> 00:52:03.349 when you get deep into the supermarkets, you 00:52:03.349 --> 00:52:06.170 can isolate that compressor and not have to recover, 00:52:06.449 --> 00:52:08.289 just recover out what's in the compressor, pull 00:52:08.289 --> 00:52:10.590 the compressor out, put a new one in. And there's 00:52:10.590 --> 00:52:12.650 filters and all kinds of stuff to help clean 00:52:12.650 --> 00:52:14.670 stuff like that. Yeah. I've seen some of that 00:52:14.670 --> 00:52:18.280 in Ricks. Some of Rick's radios that I mean they 00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:22.639 have isolation valves which is really nice. But 00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:25.480 you're talking four or five six hundred pounds 00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:27.579 of refrigerant not a you know a package unit 00:52:27.579 --> 00:52:31.920 with you know 50 or 100 pounds. Yeah exactly. 00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:36.039 But yeah always good to do both if we see if 00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:38.019 we get acid in the system if you test positive 00:52:38.019 --> 00:52:41.699 for acid we do both compressors period no questions 00:52:41.699 --> 00:52:44.000 asked if with one dies the other one's going. 00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:51.199 Good policy Makes sense So, um, you were talking 00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:53.300 about the stuff that you're working on what what 00:52:53.300 --> 00:52:55.900 company are you working at now? And what are 00:52:55.900 --> 00:52:59.860 you doing? Well, I work for KCC It's Kentucky 00:52:59.860 --> 00:53:04.599 in a comfort center We manufacture a train branded 00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:06.619 dough as you know, so just kind of like what 00:53:06.619 --> 00:53:08.760 we're talking about your aeons one of our big 00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:13.519 competitors So I'm I manage the field support 00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:17.719 team So I'm directly dealing with the customers, 00:53:18.260 --> 00:53:21.559 technicians, service managers, stuff like that, 00:53:21.579 --> 00:53:23.719 that are in the field. So we support our units 00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:25.340 in the field. If you got a problem with one of 00:53:25.340 --> 00:53:28.980 our units, call me, reach out to our tech support 00:53:28.980 --> 00:53:34.039 guys. Well, you are tech support. I am trying 00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:37.579 not to answer the phones. Not really my thing, 00:53:38.059 --> 00:53:42.659 but yes, I'm field support. We go out in the 00:53:42.659 --> 00:53:45.079 field with them sometimes. Well, that's been 00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:48.260 the one interesting part of the new gig is I 00:53:48.260 --> 00:53:51.500 have been able to get out. So I've traveled the 00:53:51.500 --> 00:53:54.480 last two weeks. I was in Massachusetts and Oklahoma 00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:58.940 city, um, and getting on site with guys and helping, 00:53:59.139 --> 00:54:02.679 helping them through problems. So that's been, 00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:05.179 you know, I like doing that. So it's, you know, 00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:09.550 some of my job is in the office. We do the training 00:54:09.550 --> 00:54:13.050 on our units too, so I'm involved in some of 00:54:13.050 --> 00:54:17.650 that. So I'm kind of doing a lot of things, trying 00:54:17.650 --> 00:54:19.969 to keep my head above water half the time. You 00:54:19.969 --> 00:54:22.070 know, that kind of reminds me, one time I was 00:54:22.070 --> 00:54:26.489 working at a hotel and they had this huge air 00:54:26.489 --> 00:54:30.650 conditioner dehumidifier combo piece of equipment 00:54:30.650 --> 00:54:35.070 that was custom made for their pool room. Mm 00:54:35.070 --> 00:54:39.429 -hmm. Pool pack and... I mean, the thing had 00:54:39.429 --> 00:54:42.010 like three different condensers in different 00:54:42.010 --> 00:54:48.369 places, held a ton of refrigerant. In fact, it 00:54:48.369 --> 00:54:54.210 had like a... It's kind of like an accumulator 00:54:54.210 --> 00:54:56.690 with a sight glass on it where you can see the 00:54:56.690 --> 00:54:59.389 level of refrigerant in there and you can charge 00:54:59.389 --> 00:55:02.929 it up by the level. They've got all kinds of... 00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:05.320 stuff out there like that, especially for your 00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:06.639 pool rooms. That's something a lot of people 00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:08.659 don't think about, but you know, you got to keep 00:55:08.659 --> 00:55:11.039 the humidity and the dew points right in there, 00:55:11.139 --> 00:55:14.719 everything will condense. But if I called tech 00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:17.480 support on that thing, I would actually speak 00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:20.559 to the people who came down and installed it. 00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:23.559 Okay. So they were very familiar with it. And 00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:26.300 one time they did have to come down and do a 00:55:26.300 --> 00:55:28.300 specific repair and I was able to meet them on 00:55:28.300 --> 00:55:31.539 site and they showed me around the piece of equipment 00:55:31.539 --> 00:55:33.869 and how it works. It was really interesting. 00:55:34.530 --> 00:55:37.369 It goes a long way. I found that just getting 00:55:37.369 --> 00:55:39.510 on site with guys and being able to go through 00:55:39.510 --> 00:55:41.369 the sequence with them and go, look, this is 00:55:41.369 --> 00:55:43.650 how that works. And, you know, I'm looking at 00:55:43.650 --> 00:55:45.389 it as a tech, so I'm like, you know, use this 00:55:45.389 --> 00:55:47.670 as a diagnostic tool. You can use this here. 00:55:48.090 --> 00:55:49.849 Look at this here. If this is happening, you 00:55:49.849 --> 00:55:51.269 might want to look at this and we can go through 00:55:51.269 --> 00:55:55.030 some of that stuff. It really helps. Yeah, that 00:55:55.030 --> 00:55:57.989 was a that was a service call that I'm glad I 00:55:57.989 --> 00:56:01.239 went to because. It's not every day you get to 00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:03.360 meet somebody who's involved with making the 00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:06.260 equipment and knows everything about it. Yeah. 00:56:08.460 --> 00:56:11.360 No, and it's cool that they were able to help 00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:13.679 you too. I mean, you know, some people don't 00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:15.900 answer the phone. I don't want to point out other 00:56:15.900 --> 00:56:18.579 actors out there, but ain't everybody answering 00:56:18.579 --> 00:56:21.000 the phone for you when you come. Oh, I know. 00:56:21.539 --> 00:56:28.119 Trust me. There's some complicated... Goodman 00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:32.380 air handlers that I have called about, they have 00:56:32.380 --> 00:56:36.019 a variable speed blower motor on them, and this 00:56:36.019 --> 00:56:38.639 funky board on it, and it's real hard to tell 00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:42.480 what that board's telling the motor, and I called 00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:45.079 tech support on them one time, and it took them 00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:47.679 about 20 minutes, but they did call me back, 00:56:47.699 --> 00:56:50.579 and basically what he told me was, if that thing's 00:56:50.579 --> 00:56:54.300 sitting there rocking like a X13 motor, Replace 00:56:54.300 --> 00:56:59.519 the motor. I'm like, thank you Needed a little 00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:03.980 guidance that's all you need Yeah, that's right. 00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:07.820 So But yeah took about 20 minutes for them to 00:57:07.820 --> 00:57:10.320 call me back and I was doing that. That's pretty 00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:12.639 good I mean hell you can't like I said, some 00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:15.139 of them aren't answering the phone I mean, it's 00:57:15.139 --> 00:57:17.159 you know, some of the bigger manufacturers will 00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:19.800 I mean lever has got good tech support. They've 00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:22.539 got great tech support Captivator is not bad. 00:57:22.539 --> 00:57:25.619 They they'll answer the phone help you out. We've 00:57:25.619 --> 00:57:30.639 got good tech support Yeah, so it's uh It's not 00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:32.760 all gone. It's just hard for some of the smaller 00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:35.179 companies and like, you know Goodman and stuff 00:57:35.179 --> 00:57:38.480 like how many tech support guys can they keep? 00:57:39.340 --> 00:57:41.320 Hanging out like you can't just hire a bunch 00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:43.519 of guys to hang out and pay them to wait for 00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:46.579 somebody to call I have the gonna have the calls 00:57:46.579 --> 00:57:51.400 coming in I think of the ECM motors, Victor, 00:57:51.820 --> 00:57:54.940 those are some of the worst ones out there. They 00:57:54.940 --> 00:58:00.019 are terrible. And somebody who happens to be 00:58:00.019 --> 00:58:02.219 doing a lot of marketing in the United States 00:58:02.219 --> 00:58:09.219 right now, German company producing inverter 00:58:09.219 --> 00:58:12.400 driven systems is putting broad ocean motors 00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:16.639 in their air handlers. I've never dealt with 00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:19.039 one exactly, but I've heard those before. Those 00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:20.940 are the ones that kept dying and had all the 00:58:20.940 --> 00:58:24.739 problems, right? Well, yeah, they're easily identifiable 00:58:24.739 --> 00:58:28.179 because most of them have a pigtail on them. 00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:31.260 They're like the only ones that have that pigtail. 00:58:33.820 --> 00:58:37.679 And Bosch likes to put them in their air handlers. 00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:43.380 Don't know why, but they do. Yeah, you think 00:58:43.380 --> 00:58:45.920 you just... I don't know. I think that sometimes 00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:47.739 they're over complicated. You've got everything 00:58:47.739 --> 00:58:51.639 else variable and stuff. It's like, uh, I mean, 00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:54.500 I'm not so much residential, so we use three 00:58:54.500 --> 00:58:56.820 phase motors and a VFD. So it's a little bit, 00:58:56.820 --> 00:58:58.900 you know, it's pretty easy to diagnose. There's 00:58:58.900 --> 00:59:03.360 nothing that complicated about it. Well, um, 00:59:04.500 --> 00:59:07.920 I try to look at these on inverter driven systems. 00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:14.869 I try to look at them like a ECM motor. The electronics 00:59:14.869 --> 00:59:18.909 for this three phase compressor are basically 00:59:18.909 --> 00:59:23.590 the module And it can get a signal to tell the 00:59:23.590 --> 00:59:26.070 thing to come on if the modules fried It's not 00:59:26.070 --> 00:59:29.389 gonna run if the compressor is just slightly 00:59:29.389 --> 00:59:33.730 just slightly shorted It's gonna trip out that 00:59:33.730 --> 00:59:36.869 module. It's not gonna run Yeah, it's an inverter 00:59:36.869 --> 00:59:40.090 is a VFD, right? So we're just controlling the 00:59:40.090 --> 00:59:44.119 you know you bring AC voltage in and it cleans 00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:47.139 up the voltage and you put a clean DC voltage 00:59:47.139 --> 00:59:51.960 out to the motor and drive the motor. Well, you 00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:54.539 know, when people say DC voltage to the motor, 00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:57.340 that's a little bit misleading for most people 00:59:57.340 --> 01:00:01.800 because it is a varying DC signal. Basically 01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:06.940 the arc the voltage never goes below zero so 01:00:06.940 --> 01:00:09.780 it's still a DC signal but it's going up and 01:00:09.780 --> 01:00:12.800 down the frequency is varying and like an AC 01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:16.840 signal yeah yeah like an AC signal but it is 01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:20.639 technically DC but it's all inputs and outputs 01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:24.480 so like you know we use digital scrolls and a 01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:28.110 lot of ours and it's a you got the Copeland digital 01:00:28.110 --> 01:00:31.570 scroll module and you put this you give it a 01:00:31.570 --> 01:00:36.869 command basically like closing y1 to r and you 01:00:36.869 --> 01:00:39.389 send it an analog signal so you ours is like 01:00:39.389 --> 01:00:41.670 two to five volts so we send two to five volts 01:00:41.670 --> 01:00:45.590 dc to it and it varies the it loads and unloads 01:00:45.590 --> 01:00:48.230 the digital compressor based on that speed signal 01:00:48.230 --> 01:00:50.860 so at five volts it's at 100 percent It's not 01:00:50.860 --> 01:00:54.559 unloaded at three volts. It's at 50 % say. So 01:00:54.559 --> 01:00:57.139 is that something that a field technician can 01:00:57.139 --> 01:01:01.460 test and see? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, with, I mean, 01:01:01.579 --> 01:01:03.619 with, as long as you know what you're looking 01:01:03.619 --> 01:01:05.980 for, that's the trick is like, you know, Copeland's 01:01:05.980 --> 01:01:07.559 really good about putting, so you could pull 01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:10.260 up a Copeland digital scroll module. I've got 01:01:10.260 --> 01:01:12.219 one on the computer here in front of me that 01:01:12.219 --> 01:01:15.440 it's, uh, it's easy to find that stuff. If you 01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:18.420 want Copeland spoiling stuff, go find their AE 01:01:18.420 --> 01:01:21.679 bulletins. Just type in AE bulletin for whatever 01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:24.739 thing that you're looking for. And there's all 01:01:24.739 --> 01:01:26.900 kinds of information. It tells you how to diagnose 01:01:26.900 --> 01:01:31.619 it, what to expect, what to look for. It's not 01:01:31.619 --> 01:01:33.480 that complicated. It's just being able to find 01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:36.260 the information sometimes can be difficult. Yeah, 01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:39.139 I have noticed that a lot of manufacturers, at 01:01:39.139 --> 01:01:41.039 least with residential equipment, that are making 01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:44.039 these inverter systems. They kind of keep all 01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:46.900 that stuff a secret. They don't want you to know. 01:01:47.300 --> 01:01:50.760 Even the terminals for the compressor are hidden 01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:53.360 because they don't really want you to put an 01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:55.320 amp meter around them. They don't want you testing 01:01:55.320 --> 01:01:58.380 the voltage on them. Well, you got to be careful. 01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:01.760 So like with a variable speed compressor, you're 01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:05.679 not, yes, with a true variable compressor, like 01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:08.280 if you put a mega meter on it, you can damage 01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:13.420 the compressor. When you're talking a residential 01:02:13.420 --> 01:02:17.460 market, there's a lot of guys running around 01:02:17.460 --> 01:02:20.760 trying to kill stuff. They're doing dumb stuff 01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:23.239 on easy things, much less something they don't 01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:26.659 understand. I think they try to keep them out 01:02:26.659 --> 01:02:29.199 of tearing something up worse than it already 01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:33.119 is. I see that, but I'm curious. I want to know 01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:36.539 what frequency it's running at. I want that to 01:02:36.539 --> 01:02:42.360 be... It should be like in the owner's manual. 01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:44.980 Okay. Is it running at top frequency or is it 01:02:44.980 --> 01:02:48.840 not? But they don't, they don't public that. 01:02:49.579 --> 01:02:52.300 Yeah. Uh, I haven't dealt with a whole lot of 01:02:52.300 --> 01:02:55.280 the residential ones, but I would, they should, 01:02:55.420 --> 01:02:57.019 if they, if they're not publishing it or if you 01:02:57.019 --> 01:02:59.460 can't go find it somewhere, that's just wrong. 01:02:59.559 --> 01:03:01.760 Like a smart guy should be able to go read the 01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:03.920 manual and figure out what signal is looking 01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:06.900 forward and be able to put it at 100%. That's 01:03:06.900 --> 01:03:08.340 the trick with your variable speed stuff. If 01:03:08.340 --> 01:03:09.559 you're going to test it or something, you got 01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:12.619 to test it at 100 % or you're in error. I know 01:03:12.619 --> 01:03:16.639 it. And a lot of them, you got to go like on 01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:18.780 this Bosch, it does have a button that you can 01:03:18.780 --> 01:03:21.199 put it in charge mode or something like that. 01:03:21.380 --> 01:03:24.239 And there's some other ones like from carrier 01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:27.719 and train with their user interface, you have 01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:32.179 to put it in. 100 % or charge mode, similar thing. 01:03:32.420 --> 01:03:36.659 So it runs at 100 % so you can test it or charge 01:03:36.659 --> 01:03:46.400 it at 100%. Yeah, that's the idea. Let me see. 01:03:46.500 --> 01:03:48.940 Ewok's here. He must have just got off work. 01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:56.280 What's up, Ewok? I've seen him out there a lot 01:03:56.280 --> 01:04:00.239 lately too. Yeah, he's putting out a lot of content. 01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:04.420 A lot of young dudes coming in here. I like to 01:04:04.420 --> 01:04:08.340 see it. Yeah, me too. You know, I feel like this 01:04:08.340 --> 01:04:11.900 complaint that we all make that nobody's getting 01:04:11.900 --> 01:04:14.380 into the trades, we're a dying breed and stuff 01:04:14.380 --> 01:04:16.639 like that. I think we've been saying that all 01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:23.000 along, you know, forever. Yeah, before us, before 01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:27.380 us. The generations before us, we're talking 01:04:27.380 --> 01:04:30.460 the same way about the kids coming up. I don't 01:04:30.460 --> 01:04:32.280 want to work. They, you know, blah, blah, blah, 01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:35.199 this and that. It's a bunch of people. So we 01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:37.440 just do the same thing over and over again. They're 01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:39.440 there. They're there. They just... They're coming 01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:41.880 in. Well, I think a lot of this helps it. A lot 01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:43.539 of those young dudes out there putting content 01:04:43.539 --> 01:04:49.340 out. Yeah. You know, part of... One of the reasons 01:04:49.340 --> 01:04:53.539 I'm doing what I do, I want to show that it's 01:04:53.539 --> 01:04:58.400 doable and let people realize that not going 01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:03.559 to college is a real option. It really is. Yeah. 01:05:03.739 --> 01:05:05.980 You can make six figures out there and more. 01:05:07.179 --> 01:05:10.900 Now's the time, man. Go get your money. If you're 01:05:10.900 --> 01:05:13.519 young and you ain't in the trades, I mean, you 01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:18.400 go to college and you want. I spoke with Jake, 01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:20.880 you know, Jake in a blue collar. And he said, 01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:23.460 three years in working as a technician, he was 01:05:23.460 --> 01:05:27.280 already making six figures. It depends on location, 01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:29.920 but yeah. That wasn't the case for me. I live 01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:34.019 in a rural place. I didn't make my six figures 01:05:34.019 --> 01:05:39.739 until I started my own business. And I'll be 01:05:39.739 --> 01:05:42.500 honest, I haven't met an engineer that makes 01:05:42.500 --> 01:05:46.099 more money than I do. And that's what I went 01:05:46.099 --> 01:05:48.130 into school for. That's what I went into school 01:05:48.130 --> 01:05:50.690 for initially. And I'm like, I'm happier doing 01:05:50.690 --> 01:05:55.090 what I do and I'm making more money. Yeah. I 01:05:55.090 --> 01:05:58.690 mean, I hear you. You're only limited by what 01:05:58.690 --> 01:06:02.710 you can actually physically do, right? Like it's 01:06:02.710 --> 01:06:05.789 all you. So it's kind of the beauty of it too 01:06:05.789 --> 01:06:08.090 is you can, you know, take and leave things. 01:06:08.409 --> 01:06:11.969 Yeah. And the hours in the day, I got to get 01:06:11.969 --> 01:06:14.730 home at a certain time. I got to eat, clean myself 01:06:14.730 --> 01:06:21.340 up and I got to be able to do that. If it weren't 01:06:21.340 --> 01:06:23.460 for that, I could be out there working all day 01:06:23.460 --> 01:06:25.960 and all night. But I did that when I worked for 01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:27.860 other companies. They had me working until eight, 01:06:27.940 --> 01:06:32.820 nine o 'clock at night. And I very quickly got 01:06:32.820 --> 01:06:35.099 away from that. Let's put it that way. I couldn't 01:06:35.099 --> 01:06:37.940 live like that for months on end. That was just 01:06:37.940 --> 01:06:40.500 terrible. It's tough. That's part of the tough 01:06:40.500 --> 01:06:42.179 part of the trade. And I think a lot of people 01:06:42.179 --> 01:06:45.179 get in and they're in that. you know, first stage 01:06:45.179 --> 01:06:46.699 of their career and they are, they're getting 01:06:46.699 --> 01:06:51.119 run to death. Especially residential, it's harder 01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:53.199 to do that. I mean, supermarket guys get beat 01:06:53.199 --> 01:07:00.400 up too, because it's just nonstop. I got to imagine 01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:02.719 guys that are doing restaurants too, like if 01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:05.619 a walk -in cooler or freezer goes down, you got 01:07:05.619 --> 01:07:11.980 to get out there right away. I quickly got to, 01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:17.480 well, In my business anyway, at first I was doing 01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:21.780 24 -7 emergency calls. You call, if you pay the 01:07:21.780 --> 01:07:26.500 money, I'll come out. And not anymore. A few 01:07:26.500 --> 01:07:30.219 years ago, I changed my Yellow Pages listing 01:07:30.219 --> 01:07:33.639 to by appointment only. And now I'm not even 01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:39.840 in the Yellow Pages anymore. I quit paying for 01:07:39.840 --> 01:07:42.940 it, it's worthless. Wait a minute. There's a 01:07:42.940 --> 01:07:46.320 story that comes with that. Okay, Yellow Pages 01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:50.260 is a prepay thing. You pay in advance to be in 01:07:50.260 --> 01:07:53.340 the Yellow Pages. And I had been doing it for 01:07:53.340 --> 01:07:57.860 years and years and years. So I finally decided, 01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:01.639 you know what? I'll keep that thousand dollars 01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:04.300 because it ain't doing me any good. So I just 01:08:04.300 --> 01:08:07.500 didn't pay to renew it. That kept putting you 01:08:07.500 --> 01:08:14.079 in there, didn't it? And they started sending 01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:18.800 collection agencies after me for not paying in 01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:25.560 advance for a service that I didn't want. I had 01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:27.380 a lawyer call me one time about it, and I was 01:08:27.380 --> 01:08:29.960 like, buddy, good luck. You're trying to collect 01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:34.000 on a paid in advance thing for something I don't 01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:36.140 want. I was like, good luck. I ain't paying you 01:08:36.140 --> 01:08:40.600 a dime. You got a bad deal anyways, the yellow 01:08:40.600 --> 01:08:43.579 pages ain't gonna be around. Like I said, ain't 01:08:43.579 --> 01:08:46.939 nobody get yellow pages. That's why I was dropping 01:08:46.939 --> 01:08:49.460 it. It was worthless. I got these things in our 01:08:49.460 --> 01:08:51.279 hands, you know, those, those calculators. They 01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:53.939 told us we'd never have in our pockets at school, 01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:56.680 you know, never calculator in your pocket. You 01:08:56.680 --> 01:09:01.199 better learn how to do this. Write it out. Tis 01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:06.579 true. That's right. But yeah, they own. They 01:09:06.579 --> 01:09:08.979 didn't they said they were trying to collect 01:09:08.979 --> 01:09:18.079 because I didn't cancel Something I mean That 01:09:18.079 --> 01:09:21.319 was yellow that was yellow pages last ditch effort 01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:24.460 to just try to stay alive That's what it is. 01:09:24.460 --> 01:09:28.300 I know it they were bought by some kind of advertising 01:09:28.300 --> 01:09:32.979 company that's Building websites and doing other 01:09:32.979 --> 01:09:35.600 kinds of advertising. I forget what it was was 01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:39.380 Thrive. That's what it was. Yellow Pages were 01:09:39.380 --> 01:09:44.720 bought by Thrive, T -H -R -Y -V. So if you ever 01:09:44.720 --> 01:09:48.399 get a email wanting to market your business by 01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:51.199 Thrive, part of that portfolio is the Yellow 01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:55.239 Pages. The Yellow Pages. I think they've probably 01:09:55.239 --> 01:09:57.319 thrown that one away by now. They're not advertising. 01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:03.020 Even when I did advertise in the yellow pages, 01:10:03.060 --> 01:10:06.979 I just had like a little one inch ad under air 01:10:06.979 --> 01:10:10.199 conditioning and another one under heating contractors. 01:10:11.300 --> 01:10:15.060 And it's very simplistic. I saw everybody else 01:10:15.060 --> 01:10:17.600 had something there I felt like I had to too. 01:10:18.779 --> 01:10:21.579 And over the time, I probably kept them for like 01:10:21.579 --> 01:10:28.340 12 years. Maybe a dozen calls from that. I mean, 01:10:28.340 --> 01:10:32.359 that's not worth it. No, it's not. But I mean, 01:10:32.380 --> 01:10:35.739 you know, guys of a certain only guys of a certain 01:10:35.739 --> 01:10:37.960 age remember that stuff. Like now it's getting 01:10:37.960 --> 01:10:40.760 to the point where you said Yellow Pages, there's 01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:42.420 people in chat right now that probably don't 01:10:42.420 --> 01:10:45.279 know what Yellow Pages is. I can remember, you 01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:46.720 know, before when you wanted to look something 01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:48.699 up, if you wanted to call and order a damn pizza, 01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:50.859 you would go to the Yellow Pages and find the 01:10:50.859 --> 01:10:54.960 number. That's just what you had to do. You know 01:10:54.960 --> 01:10:57.319 something? I was having a conversation with my 01:10:57.319 --> 01:10:59.579 wife the other day, talk about showing our age. 01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:05.380 One of my first jobs I had was at a Rose's. And 01:11:05.380 --> 01:11:07.739 I worked the floor just like all the other young 01:11:07.739 --> 01:11:12.140 kids out there. And back in the day, there were 01:11:12.140 --> 01:11:17.100 no video cameras. The way they kept track of 01:11:17.100 --> 01:11:19.380 people and the people perusing the aisles in 01:11:19.380 --> 01:11:24.689 their store, they had little peep holes. Even 01:11:24.689 --> 01:11:27.430 where there was a second floor capability in 01:11:27.430 --> 01:11:30.109 the store, like in the layaway section and all 01:11:30.109 --> 01:11:31.970 that stuff, it's like a warehouse. There were 01:11:31.970 --> 01:11:34.409 little sections where there was a peephole where 01:11:34.409 --> 01:11:40.510 they can look out over everybody. It's crazy 01:11:40.510 --> 01:11:42.989 how far we've come. That's just one of those 01:11:42.989 --> 01:11:45.670 things from back in the day. I remember the peephole, 01:11:45.829 --> 01:11:48.770 the manager was always telling me I was talking 01:11:48.770 --> 01:12:11.869 to the girls too much or something. Let me see. 01:12:12.189 --> 01:12:17.010 Well, Timmy, how old are you, Timmy? Let us know. 01:12:17.289 --> 01:12:20.930 I think you skipped ahead. He said 62. 62. Oh, 01:12:20.989 --> 01:12:24.630 there he is. Yeah. Well, I'm, I'm 54. I'm one 01:12:24.630 --> 01:12:27.350 of these Gen Xers that was raised with no car 01:12:27.350 --> 01:12:30.630 seats, no internet. You basically, you get home 01:12:30.630 --> 01:12:32.609 from school and you get on your bicycle and you 01:12:32.609 --> 01:12:36.109 just run the neighborhood. Nobody, I mean, we 01:12:36.109 --> 01:12:38.250 were last key kids. We were last key kids. Just 01:12:38.250 --> 01:12:41.060 come home alone. That's the way it is. That's 01:12:41.060 --> 01:12:43.960 kind of, we didn't say, I'm 40. So I'm like right 01:12:43.960 --> 01:12:47.300 on that borderline jet Xer. But I mean, it was, 01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:50.060 you left in the morning there, you go figure 01:12:50.060 --> 01:12:51.880 something out to do. And when the street lights 01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:56.859 are on, you come back. I just remember some of 01:12:56.859 --> 01:12:59.180 the stuff we did was crazy. We would get in bottle 01:12:59.180 --> 01:13:04.359 rocket fights. We would stuff a firecracker into 01:13:04.359 --> 01:13:06.460 a pine cone and throw it like a hand grenade. 01:13:07.859 --> 01:13:12.880 And I had this go -kart. It's like my sister 01:13:12.880 --> 01:13:17.439 had a moped and I had a go -kart and I would 01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:20.760 try to jump this go -kart. I kept breaking the 01:13:20.760 --> 01:13:25.380 frame on it. Now the go -karts today, they have 01:13:25.380 --> 01:13:28.340 like almost like a racing car seat with buckles 01:13:28.340 --> 01:13:31.380 on it and stuff like that. This was a bench seat 01:13:31.380 --> 01:13:34.680 for two people, no seat belts or anything like 01:13:34.680 --> 01:13:37.140 that. And we're jumping at probably four or five 01:13:37.140 --> 01:13:42.720 feet in the air. We were bike kids. We rode our 01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:44.520 bikes around, but we did some crazy stuff on 01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:48.500 some bikes. Timmy says dirt club fights. Yeah, 01:13:48.819 --> 01:13:53.380 they're on dirt clubs with each other. Rock fights. 01:13:53.500 --> 01:13:55.039 You live by the railroad tracks, you ever had 01:13:55.039 --> 01:13:59.239 a rock fight? Oh, don't get hit in the head with 01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:05.380 a green pine cone. That's one of the worst. He's 01:14:05.380 --> 01:14:08.229 right. You knew where everybody hit you. Hold 01:14:08.229 --> 01:14:10.970 on a second, I gotta click on this one. You knew 01:14:10.970 --> 01:14:12.850 where everyone was by how many bikes for everyone. 01:14:13.069 --> 01:14:14.670 That's where you knew where your kids were hanging 01:14:14.670 --> 01:14:18.390 out by looking where the bikes were. Now you 01:14:18.390 --> 01:14:22.270 attract the phone. You don't have to worry about 01:14:22.270 --> 01:14:28.289 what your kids are doing online. In fact, the 01:14:28.289 --> 01:14:31.529 first computers, I remember, I was in high school. 01:14:31.869 --> 01:14:34.170 We had a computer class where we were being taught 01:14:34.170 --> 01:14:39.180 how to do... I think it was DOS from Commodore 01:14:39.180 --> 01:14:43.779 64. It couldn't communicate with anything, but 01:14:43.779 --> 01:14:46.579 you could write a little bit of code and make 01:14:46.579 --> 01:14:49.800 a little program or something and later you could 01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:57.359 hook up a printer to it. Yeah, the early control 01:14:57.359 --> 01:14:59.319 systems, I worked on a few of those early control 01:14:59.319 --> 01:15:04.439 systems that were, the train was DOS back, way 01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:10.300 back. And yeah, it was their BAS system was awesome. 01:15:10.420 --> 01:15:12.560 You would have to go in and you had to know the 01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:14.439 buttons, the correct buttons to push, because 01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:16.560 you would have to control all blah, blah, blah, 01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:18.739 whatever you have to have the correct buttons. 01:15:19.079 --> 01:15:21.720 And it would take you to the next page. But it 01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:24.500 was like, I can remember the first time I saw, 01:15:24.699 --> 01:15:27.699 because a little before my time, I'm like, I 01:15:27.699 --> 01:15:30.460 don't, I was like, I could halfway navigate it. 01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:32.300 But one of our old guys came in one time and 01:15:32.300 --> 01:15:34.810 he was like. She's just typing away. I'm like, 01:15:34.850 --> 01:15:37.489 what the hell, man? But that's what he knew. 01:15:38.050 --> 01:15:39.909 Like I could plug my computer in. I'm like, I 01:15:39.909 --> 01:15:42.390 need my computer to plug in this damn thing. 01:15:44.310 --> 01:15:49.550 Oh, well. And then we got people talking about 01:15:49.550 --> 01:15:52.250 Atari Space Invaders. Oh, that's a good one. 01:15:52.829 --> 01:15:54.970 Excite Byte, your play Punch Out. Oh, wait a 01:15:54.970 --> 01:15:57.149 minute. I got to click on this one by Rudy here. 01:15:58.390 --> 01:16:02.340 Not too long ago. All the service techs had a 01:16:02.340 --> 01:16:04.579 GPS hanging right there by their rear view mirror. 01:16:04.619 --> 01:16:08.119 Do you remember those? I just, I had, I was using 01:16:08.119 --> 01:16:12.439 maps. I'd gotten really good at using maps. And 01:16:12.439 --> 01:16:16.920 I just noticed everybody was using these GPS's 01:16:16.920 --> 01:16:18.920 and they talked about how great they were. So 01:16:18.920 --> 01:16:22.939 I went and got one and probably three or four 01:16:22.939 --> 01:16:27.680 years later, I'm doing GPS on my iPad. So. Yeah. 01:16:27.770 --> 01:16:29.430 You know what I mean? They, they went out of 01:16:29.430 --> 01:16:32.930 style real quick. Uh, yeah, no, I mean, I can 01:16:32.930 --> 01:16:35.710 remember driving, driving a service truck and 01:16:35.710 --> 01:16:39.010 having to pull out your map. You had a map book 01:16:39.010 --> 01:16:41.250 and you would go find where you're going and 01:16:41.250 --> 01:16:44.609 you'd be following the roads. Like, I know you, 01:16:44.850 --> 01:16:46.989 you would look up by driving. They talk about 01:16:46.989 --> 01:16:49.029 driving distracted now. They're trying to drive 01:16:49.029 --> 01:16:52.529 and read them. You would look up your road name. 01:16:52.550 --> 01:16:54.909 It would give you a grid number. You find it 01:16:54.909 --> 01:16:59.109 in the grid. In fact, if you ever see any videos 01:16:59.109 --> 01:17:01.569 or pictures of my office, there's a map hanging 01:17:01.569 --> 01:17:04.930 on the wall. That is a laminated map from the 01:17:04.930 --> 01:17:08.390 times I was using a map to get around town. In 01:17:08.390 --> 01:17:11.829 your local area. So you knew where you were going. 01:17:12.170 --> 01:17:14.130 Yeah. You could go to like books a million or 01:17:14.130 --> 01:17:17.510 something and buy a local map. And that's what 01:17:17.510 --> 01:17:23.050 I did. These are dying things that you're never 01:17:23.050 --> 01:17:26.310 gonna see again. Nobody's gonna look in a map 01:17:26.310 --> 01:17:30.630 to figure out where they're going. Nobody's opening 01:17:30.630 --> 01:17:33.409 Yellow Pages to call the pizza place down the 01:17:33.409 --> 01:17:37.350 road. If they are, they probably got gray hair. 01:17:41.789 --> 01:17:45.189 I was proud of the first time I saw my company's 01:17:45.189 --> 01:17:48.729 name in the Yellow Pages. I was like, look at 01:17:48.729 --> 01:17:56.329 there, I've made it. You had at the time, you 01:17:56.329 --> 01:17:59.710 did make it. It was a struggle to begin with, 01:18:00.350 --> 01:18:02.250 but everything's a struggle to begin with. Ain't 01:18:02.250 --> 01:18:05.090 nothing easy is worth having. You made it all 01:18:05.090 --> 01:18:10.689 the way here. You know. Part of me is kind of 01:18:10.689 --> 01:18:12.750 looking forward to one day retiring, but I'm 01:18:12.750 --> 01:18:15.529 not sure I'm going to be able to, because I just 01:18:15.529 --> 01:18:17.449 love getting out there and doing it. If I have 01:18:17.449 --> 01:18:21.210 a day where there's not much going on, I miss 01:18:21.210 --> 01:18:24.369 it. It's like, I want to call a customer, hey, 01:18:24.409 --> 01:18:27.529 can I come work on your air conditioner? I want 01:18:27.529 --> 01:18:31.069 to get out there and do something. Yeah, no, 01:18:31.090 --> 01:18:34.789 I feel that. I'm similar. I can't turn it off 01:18:34.789 --> 01:18:39.350 sometimes. I like talking. BS and H faculty guys, 01:18:40.029 --> 01:18:45.090 and I'd like to retire someday too. Luckily, 01:18:45.270 --> 01:18:47.350 I think, but at this point I'll be able to retire 01:18:47.350 --> 01:18:53.270 before I'm ready to retire. I think as long as 01:18:53.270 --> 01:18:55.869 there's no major like health catastrophe or something 01:18:55.869 --> 01:19:00.649 like that, you know, when I hit 60, 62 years 01:19:00.649 --> 01:19:04.329 old, my intention is to try to go camping, you 01:19:04.329 --> 01:19:07.659 know, get me on. an airstream, a nice new truck 01:19:07.659 --> 01:19:09.420 and just travel around the country and get some 01:19:09.420 --> 01:19:12.939 of these great campgrounds and parts of country. 01:19:13.420 --> 01:19:15.500 I got an uncle that does that. He just kind of 01:19:15.500 --> 01:19:18.079 roams the earth, man. He's got a camper and he 01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:20.760 drives around, you know, stops and visits family 01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:25.279 and, you know, just enjoys life. There ain't 01:19:25.279 --> 01:19:31.529 nothing wrong with that. Yeah, that's. I think 01:19:31.529 --> 01:19:33.770 my granddad kind of instilled the love of trying 01:19:33.770 --> 01:19:35.750 to do something like that in me because he used 01:19:35.750 --> 01:19:39.210 to go camping and take us camping. It's just 01:19:39.210 --> 01:19:40.949 a nice way to spend your time. You get to go 01:19:40.949 --> 01:19:44.050 to some great places. And I tell you what, it's 01:19:44.050 --> 01:19:46.529 been, it's been the fun part about this is I've 01:19:46.529 --> 01:19:49.489 been traveling and I've been able to go to these 01:19:49.489 --> 01:19:52.109 places and not only meet the techs, but you meet 01:19:52.109 --> 01:19:55.869 the people that are there and you start. to see 01:19:55.869 --> 01:19:58.210 what's out there more. I never traveled before, 01:19:58.289 --> 01:20:00.489 so that's been a really interesting part is just 01:20:00.489 --> 01:20:03.310 talking to the people everywhere and talking 01:20:03.310 --> 01:20:05.029 to the technicians, being able to get on the 01:20:05.029 --> 01:20:07.829 roof with them has been pretty cool. Yeah, you 01:20:07.829 --> 01:20:14.189 know, before I went to AHR in Orlando, I hadn't 01:20:14.189 --> 01:20:19.090 really gotten out from my area in Georgia, South 01:20:19.090 --> 01:20:21.289 Carolina, unless it was to go to a funeral or 01:20:21.289 --> 01:20:24.090 something like that. So I really enjoyed getting 01:20:24.090 --> 01:20:27.090 out there and seeing other people and talk to 01:20:27.090 --> 01:20:29.850 other people. I went to Milwaukee recently for 01:20:29.850 --> 01:20:33.189 their pipeline event and got to meet a lot of 01:20:33.189 --> 01:20:37.670 great people up there and see what they do. That 01:20:37.670 --> 01:20:41.409 was real fun. And I had never seen Lake Michigan, 01:20:41.430 --> 01:20:44.930 so I made a trip over to Lake Michigan to take 01:20:44.930 --> 01:20:51.369 a look at it. And it's very comparable to The 01:20:51.369 --> 01:20:54.989 Gulf Coast when his calm waters clear water a 01:20:54.989 --> 01:20:58.470 very kind of calm water Just pristine beaches. 01:20:58.470 --> 01:21:01.770 It was it was real nice. There's beautiful land 01:21:01.770 --> 01:21:04.569 everywhere I flew into Boston and drove up to 01:21:04.569 --> 01:21:07.630 New Hampshire and It's just I mean, it's beautiful 01:21:07.630 --> 01:21:10.149 lane. I stopped back in my way back. I stopped 01:21:10.149 --> 01:21:13.250 in Boston I actually was trying to navigate through 01:21:13.250 --> 01:21:16.420 the city get back to the airport and I saw Harbor 01:21:16.420 --> 01:21:18.439 and I was like, oh, that looks cool. So I drove 01:21:18.439 --> 01:21:20.220 down to the Harbor and I just got some pictures 01:21:20.220 --> 01:21:22.539 and got the feel for the city and where everything 01:21:22.539 --> 01:21:26.260 was. I was like, this is pretty cool. Yeah, yeah. 01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:32.899 That'd be nice. You going to HR this year? I 01:21:32.899 --> 01:21:37.680 think I will. There's a big part of me that don't 01:21:37.680 --> 01:21:45.590 want to go. I'm such a homebody, but. I heard 01:21:45.590 --> 01:21:48.949 that. There's a big part of me that don't want 01:21:48.949 --> 01:21:51.470 to go. I think for the awards show, they're going 01:21:51.470 --> 01:21:58.729 to ask me to present an award. But I probably 01:21:58.729 --> 01:22:05.109 will. I probably will. I just hadn't fully decided 01:22:05.109 --> 01:22:08.569 to. I hadn't bought my plane tickets yet. Yeah. 01:22:11.939 --> 01:22:16.720 I'm going to HR with work this year, so it'll 01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:22.020 be interesting. I've never been to Vegas, so 01:22:22.020 --> 01:22:25.100 it'll be fun. I don't think I'm gonna make the 01:22:25.100 --> 01:22:28.800 award show. I wish I was, but... The Vegas part 01:22:28.800 --> 01:22:35.000 of it, to me, was kind of a drawback. Well, it's 01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:39.840 a longer flight for you, right? I mean, I'm not... 01:22:40.590 --> 01:22:43.510 I mean, if you're, you're going for AHR, so like 01:22:43.510 --> 01:22:45.770 you're not hanging out on the strip and doing 01:22:45.770 --> 01:22:48.810 the Vegas thing. Like when I was in Orlando, 01:22:48.810 --> 01:22:53.229 I would go to AHR. I'd get something to eat, 01:22:53.270 --> 01:22:55.750 go to AHR, spend the whole day there, come back 01:22:55.750 --> 01:22:59.409 to my hotel. I would do some Grubhub food, order 01:22:59.409 --> 01:23:01.470 it to my hotel room and I'd stay there the whole 01:23:01.470 --> 01:23:03.550 night. I didn't go out. I didn't go to none of 01:23:03.550 --> 01:23:06.949 those after parties. It was almost like work 01:23:06.949 --> 01:23:11.489 trying to walk around and see everything. It's 01:23:11.489 --> 01:23:14.409 kind of taxing on you. It's it is it was it was 01:23:14.409 --> 01:23:17.350 a lot. I mean, there's a lot there It's gonna 01:23:17.350 --> 01:23:19.970 be interesting this year because I didn't go 01:23:19.970 --> 01:23:22.189 I did the same thing because I drove when it 01:23:22.189 --> 01:23:27.909 was in Chicago I drove and Actually, that's where 01:23:27.909 --> 01:23:30.590 I met the the people that org was now actually 01:23:30.590 --> 01:23:33.090 I met them for the first time when I I took like 01:23:33.090 --> 01:23:36.609 three days off Drove to Chicago to go to HR and 01:23:36.609 --> 01:23:41.859 paid for Chicago myself Just to go up there Yeah, 01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:44.640 it's a lot of work and it's not, you know, you're 01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:47.260 you're not making money if you're an AHR so I 01:23:47.260 --> 01:23:50.199 get it I know it. Well, I drove to Orlando for 01:23:50.199 --> 01:23:55.640 me that was Just over a four -hour drive People 01:23:55.640 --> 01:23:57.319 don't I don't think people understand how close 01:23:57.319 --> 01:24:02.359 I am to Florida. Yes So my family some of my 01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:05.560 family's from Lexington, South Carolina, I don't 01:24:05.560 --> 01:24:09.159 know where that is compared to where you're Dude, 01:24:10.739 --> 01:24:15.779 my family literally for hundreds of years have 01:24:15.779 --> 01:24:18.960 lived in the Columbia area and that includes 01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:24.720 Lexington, South Carolina. I just went to a family 01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:30.380 reunion in Lexington, South Carolina. Okay. I 01:24:30.380 --> 01:24:34.340 got a lot of family there. I've got cousins and 01:24:34.340 --> 01:24:38.609 uncles. People I don't even know that are my 01:24:38.609 --> 01:24:41.710 family. This last family reunion I met, I guess 01:24:41.710 --> 01:24:48.789 it was the children of my dad's cousins. So I 01:24:48.789 --> 01:24:51.989 guess that makes them my cousins too. And they 01:24:51.989 --> 01:24:56.430 all live around in that same area. And that was 01:24:56.430 --> 01:25:04.029 interesting. Yeah. You know any Mastacolas? I 01:25:04.029 --> 01:25:07.310 do. I do know them. That's fine. That's their 01:25:07.310 --> 01:25:15.569 last name. Orlando was a lot. I mean, for a... 01:25:15.569 --> 01:25:21.930 HR is a trade show like nothing. I imagine. If 01:25:21.930 --> 01:25:24.069 you've never been there, it is bigger than you 01:25:24.069 --> 01:25:28.010 imagine. You'll never see it all. Yeah, it's 01:25:28.010 --> 01:25:33.590 a lot. What's going on? I would make a list of 01:25:33.590 --> 01:25:36.449 who I wanted to go see. I'd find out where their 01:25:36.449 --> 01:25:41.069 booth was and kind of navigate my way over there 01:25:41.069 --> 01:25:43.149 and just look at stuff on my way over to where 01:25:43.149 --> 01:25:49.210 I wanted to go. That's a good way to go. That's 01:25:49.210 --> 01:25:51.810 just how I did it. I had very little time of 01:25:51.810 --> 01:25:54.630 just meandering around and looking at stuff. 01:25:54.729 --> 01:26:01.369 And there's just so much there. Yeah. I went 01:26:01.369 --> 01:26:04.829 by myself and I just kind of wandered around. 01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:07.279 I didn't really have anywhere to go. Actually, 01:26:07.319 --> 01:26:12.560 I met up with Jake and Adrian and a bunch of 01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:17.260 those guys and met them up there. Ryan and Rick 01:26:17.260 --> 01:26:19.100 were up there too. That was the first time I 01:26:19.100 --> 01:26:21.579 actually got to meet those guys in person, so 01:26:21.579 --> 01:26:24.760 that was pretty cool. Really? I've talked to 01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:27.159 them like you. I've talked to you here. I've 01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:29.340 talked to a lot of these guys, but I've never 01:26:29.340 --> 01:26:31.460 seen them. It was cool. They're like, hey, what's 01:26:31.460 --> 01:26:34.000 up, man? Shake their hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:26:34.380 --> 01:26:37.560 Well, look, man, we have gone over schedule. 01:26:37.579 --> 01:26:39.600 We've done like about an hour and a half. So 01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:43.079 I'm going to go ahead and tell everybody, thank 01:26:43.079 --> 01:26:44.680 you for showing up tonight. It turned out to 01:26:44.680 --> 01:26:47.439 be a great show. I appreciate you coming on, 01:26:47.619 --> 01:26:50.140 man. It was nice talking to you. I feel like 01:26:50.140 --> 01:26:53.199 I know you much better now. Anytime, brother. 01:26:53.479 --> 01:26:56.380 If, you know, next time you need a guest, you 01:26:56.380 --> 01:26:58.840 let me know. I'm always happy to chat. Well, 01:26:58.840 --> 01:27:01.779 it was really great. I'm glad you'll come on 01:27:01.779 --> 01:27:05.319 again. I probably will ask you again. Maybe I'll 01:27:05.319 --> 01:27:12.760 see you at AHR. Probably. Well, guys, thanks 01:27:12.760 --> 01:27:15.079 for coming out. I appreciate it.