WEBVTT 00:00:15.980 --> 00:00:19.980 you, JT. I don't believe it. Good morning. I 00:00:19.980 --> 00:00:21.899 don't even know what you guys are talking about. 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:25.000 This is DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:28.940 Thomas. It is Thursday, September 24th, 2026. 00:00:29.019 --> 00:00:32.539 Today on the docket, to give you an idea how 00:00:32.539 --> 00:00:35.159 crazy international relationships have become, 00:00:35.579 --> 00:00:39.200 Prime Minister Mark Carney says that Canada is 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:42.340 preparing for military action by the United States 00:00:42.340 --> 00:00:45.799 and Donald Trump against Canada. That's 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:48.539 not in a rag. Well, maybe it's in a rag, but 00:00:48.539 --> 00:00:51.560 it's in The New York Times. Another U.S. citizen 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:56.679 misidentified as a legal immigrant has been brutalized 00:00:56.679 --> 00:00:59.240 by ICE this time in Evanston, Illinois. That's 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:01.960 south of Chicago. They even broke out his teeth. 00:01:02.100 --> 00:01:06.109 We'll talk about that. Two U.S. senators, well, 00:01:06.189 --> 00:01:08.689 one U.S. senator and a U.S. senatorial 00:01:08.689 --> 00:01:11.510 hopeful, are in deep shit this morning. We talked 00:01:11.510 --> 00:01:14.290 a little bit, Jamarl, you brought up Susan Collins 00:01:14.290 --> 00:01:18.010 and the troubles that she's facing relating to 00:01:18.010 --> 00:01:22.030 allegations that she broke federal campaign law 00:01:22.030 --> 00:01:25.290 in a very serious way. That's now being added 00:01:25.290 --> 00:01:27.930 by another New York Times report. This is Mary 00:01:27.930 --> 00:01:30.670 Peltola, who's the Democratic nominee for the 00:01:30.670 --> 00:01:34.909 U.S. Senate in Alaska. She basically is being 00:01:34.909 --> 00:01:37.629 accused of being another Amy Klobuchar mean girl. 00:01:37.670 --> 00:01:39.469 It's funny because we just brought up Amy Klobuchar 00:01:39.469 --> 00:01:43.230 yesterday in the show, apropos of nothing in 00:01:43.230 --> 00:01:46.109 particular, and this just came up. So it's funny 00:01:46.109 --> 00:01:48.409 how that comes up. We are here Monday through 00:01:48.409 --> 00:01:51.290 Friday, 9 a.m. Eastern time. Mondays, Wednesdays, 00:01:51.290 --> 00:01:53.730 and Fridays we go a full two hours to 11. 00:01:53.930 --> 00:01:56.469 On Tuesdays and Thursdays we have the TMI Show 00:01:56.469 --> 00:02:00.189 at 10 a.m. So that cuts us off at 10 a.m. On 00:02:00.189 --> 00:02:04.250 Fridays I have the DMZ podcast and don't 00:02:04.250 --> 00:02:06.069 forget seven to nine Monday through Friday in 00:02:06.069 --> 00:02:08.669 the morning. That's Eastern time to tune in 00:02:08.669 --> 00:02:13.090 Jamarl's show solo. Okay that's a lot. Please 00:02:13.090 --> 00:02:15.430 like, follow and share the show. Please continue 00:02:15.430 --> 00:02:18.469 to support the show. Okay, good morning Jamarl. How 00:02:18.469 --> 00:02:20.490 are you doing this morning? I'm doing fine. I'm 00:02:20.490 --> 00:02:22.370 doing fine. I want to add one more story to it 00:02:22.370 --> 00:02:24.550 and it's not that this person is in trouble. It's 00:02:24.550 --> 00:02:29.319 just intrigue. Kyrsten Sinema. Did you hear the 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:30.740 thing about her and the bodyguard? Where the 00:02:30.740 --> 00:02:32.979 bodyguard apparently trashed her place, $200,000 00:02:32.979 --> 00:02:37.819 worth of damage. Apparently she likes artwork. 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:39.479 She has a lot of artwork that ended up at the 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:42.300 bottom of the swimming pool. Yeah, he basically 00:02:42.300 --> 00:02:45.460 wanted her to post something on Twitter. But 00:02:45.460 --> 00:02:47.379 I don't know what he wanted her to post on Twitter, 00:02:47.460 --> 00:02:49.360 and she told him no, and he flipped out. Now, 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:51.319 just for the audience, just in case they don't 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:53.919 know, she was having a bit of an affair with 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:57.689 her bodyguard. I saw the guy, and I thought to 00:02:57.689 --> 00:03:01.969 myself, she couldn't do better than this. I'm 00:03:01.969 --> 00:03:05.490 sorry. I saw the guy, and I thought, when you 00:03:05.490 --> 00:03:07.509 look at the mugshot, and I was like, this is 00:03:07.509 --> 00:03:11.669 the guy? Yeah. Look, she's not. She has 00:03:11.669 --> 00:03:15.550 a certain something, right? She's not 00:03:15.550 --> 00:03:18.009 a classic beauty, but. But there's 00:03:18.009 --> 00:03:20.509 something there that I like. She does. She's 00:03:20.509 --> 00:03:23.159 sexy. No question she is. Now when people 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:25.919 say can you be pretty and not sexy, she's an example 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:28.280 of, I mean can you be sexy without being pretty. 00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:31.340 She's not ugly but she's not pretty but she's 00:03:31.340 --> 00:03:36.819 definitely sexy. And he's, I think 00:03:36.819 --> 00:03:38.919 this reminds me when Arnold Schwarzenegger got 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:41.620 with his nanny and I saw a picture 00:03:41.620 --> 00:03:44.560 of her I was like she was just what was lying 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:50.789 around. When I saw the Kyrsten 00:03:50.789 --> 00:03:55.409 Sinema 39-year-old dude, I was like, man, that 00:03:55.409 --> 00:03:59.509 guy looks like he sleeps hard sometimes. It was 00:03:59.509 --> 00:04:02.710 like, whoa. Although, mugshot is never a great 00:04:02.710 --> 00:04:07.569 moment. True, but I can't see a good moment for 00:04:07.569 --> 00:04:11.689 this guy. No, I'm agreeing. I'm extrapolating. 00:04:11.949 --> 00:04:15.509 Clean him up, Ricki Lake makeover. I'm like, 00:04:15.610 --> 00:04:19.149 hmm. Still don't see it. By the way, did you 00:04:19.149 --> 00:04:22.069 see the woman who was arrested? The woman was 00:04:22.069 --> 00:04:24.709 arrested for having sex in Florida with the family 00:04:24.709 --> 00:04:28.810 dog. And she had a great mugshot. And she's a 00:04:28.810 --> 00:04:32.350 dog fucker. Alleged dog fucker. And she definitely 00:04:32.350 --> 00:04:36.230 broke. She didn't go the Nick Nolte route. She 00:04:36.230 --> 00:04:39.149 looked great in the mugshot. Yeah. Well 00:04:39.149 --> 00:04:54.370 that dog obviously had it coming. He was. I didn't 00:04:54.370 --> 00:05:01.500 know that TMI got moved up. It's a confusing 00:05:01.500 --> 00:05:04.019 time. I never thought I'd live to see a time when the government 00:05:04.019 --> 00:05:06.379 of Canada would have to prepare itself, steel 00:05:06.379 --> 00:05:10.620 itself against a U.S. military attack from the 00:05:10.620 --> 00:05:13.500 U.S. But here we are. Well, that is a time-honored, 00:05:13.500 --> 00:05:16.160 in fairness though, Ted, that is a time-honored 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:19.079 tradition. Canada twice. 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:24.040 The last time was in the 1850s. We nearly went to 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:26.199 war over... went to war with the British Empire 00:05:26.199 --> 00:05:28.220 over a pig. Look it up. It was a crisis. A Canadian 00:05:28.220 --> 00:05:33.439 farmer shot an American pig and damn it, it started 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:35.680 a war. Yeah, that's true. But this is North America, 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:41.540 where if it happened before Tuesday, nobody remembers 00:05:41.540 --> 00:05:44.740 it. This is America. What are you talking about? 00:05:44.740 --> 00:05:47.360 It happened yesterday. No one knows. That's true. 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:50.740 Very true. How do y'all think my mugshot would 00:05:50.740 --> 00:05:53.980 look? Brutally honest. Pretty much the way you 00:05:53.980 --> 00:05:57.800 always look. I'm hoping I would smile. Well, 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:04.160 a smile is a good idea because that picture is 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:06.680 going to be all over the place. Well, it depends 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:08.879 on how they get you in there for the mugshot. It's 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:11.480 like, is this your last-stand mugshot? Or is 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:14.560 this a... I always assume it's my last 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:20.439 stand. I'd like to take a page out of the apostle. 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:22.839 My favorite one is the Frank Sinatra one that's 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:24.959 in every pizza parlor where he's just 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:27.600 sort of like, what. What's the... He'd 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:33.939 polish it off. I don't even remember what he was 00:06:33.939 --> 00:06:35.819 arrested for. Neither do I, but 00:06:35.819 --> 00:06:39.600 Sinatra, Sammy Davis, all those guys had mob ties 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:41.740 and stuff like that so who knows. But I don't 00:06:41.740 --> 00:06:43.540 think this had anything to do with it. I think 00:06:43.540 --> 00:06:45.379 it was something like maybe shoplifting 00:06:45.379 --> 00:06:47.740 or something stupid like that. Oh you mean when 00:06:47.740 --> 00:06:50.529 he was a kid? Yeah. You've seen it. He's 00:06:50.529 --> 00:06:53.949 very young. And he's, he 00:06:53.949 --> 00:06:57.569 aged great. He always looked great. But 00:06:57.569 --> 00:07:00.069 yeah he's such a man. I always think to myself 00:07:00.069 --> 00:07:02.930 Sinatra's thing is a man's man. 00:07:02.930 --> 00:07:05.810 Jill Scott is a woman's woman. When 00:07:05.810 --> 00:07:09.370 they're doing their albums, their music, it's 00:07:09.370 --> 00:07:11.589 very unapologetically a man. Men would always 00:07:11.589 --> 00:07:16.750 that type of true. Oh God, man, he's so good. 00:07:16.750 --> 00:07:20.490 Yeah, let's talk about Canada. Let's talk about 00:07:20.490 --> 00:07:23.250 Canada. All right, let's get... Is Carney playing 00:07:23.250 --> 00:07:26.350 to his audience in this? And just for the audience, 00:07:26.350 --> 00:07:30.649 he was having an interview with The New York Times 00:07:30.649 --> 00:07:32.329 and in The New York Times piece Carney made the 00:07:32.329 --> 00:07:35.009 point of saying it would be irresponsible if 00:07:35.009 --> 00:07:37.389 I didn't prepare for potential military 00:07:37.389 --> 00:07:40.329 attack by the U.S. It's a tail risk but still 00:07:40.329 --> 00:07:42.990 you have to prepare for it because a long-tail 00:07:42.990 --> 00:07:43.389 risk he used, which is that term which is sort 00:07:43.389 --> 00:07:45.569 of like a dot-com term. Yeah. Is he 00:07:45.569 --> 00:07:48.629 playing to his Canadian base? Is that what this 00:07:48.629 --> 00:07:53.629 is? Look, hey we have to pretend 00:07:53.629 --> 00:07:56.550 we have to potentially prepare for an invasion 00:07:56.550 --> 00:07:59.509 by Trump. He threatened Greenland with military 00:07:59.509 --> 00:08:02.089 force. He's threatening South America with 00:08:02.089 --> 00:08:04.170 military force. He put out the map of all of Canada 00:08:04.170 --> 00:08:06.709 and South America and even British colonies 00:08:06.709 --> 00:08:10.550 and French colonies that are supposed to be American 00:08:10.550 --> 00:08:14.519 territory. So we got to prepare for this. Okay, 00:08:14.519 --> 00:08:17.220 but the U.S. hasn't built up any military force 00:08:17.220 --> 00:08:20.220 to attack Canada. Yeah, but we don't really need 00:08:20.220 --> 00:08:22.920 to. In the doctrine of preemption, 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:26.639 you're allowed to attack if your enemy's forces 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:30.439 are massed on the border. Right. Okay. But we're 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:34.740 the United States. We're already massed on the 00:08:34.740 --> 00:08:38.279 border. We're right 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:40.559 there. But don't you have to build up some military 00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:41.960 contingent to go after Canada if you're going 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:45.820 to do it? I would think honestly, I have a feeling 00:08:45.820 --> 00:08:48.240 that this is probably something the U.S. could 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:51.480 take care of over a weekend. It's so 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:53.179 sparsely populated, right? There's 00:08:53.179 --> 00:08:56.519 50 percent of the economic. I think that's 00:08:56.519 --> 00:08:58.980 right. But a very, very high percentage of economic 00:08:58.980 --> 00:09:02.379 activity in Canada is all in Quebec, right? So 00:09:02.379 --> 00:09:05.519 if you merely control Montreal and Quebec City, 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:09.519 the game's half over. And if you 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:13.779 can't imagine Ottawa is going to be terribly 00:09:13.779 --> 00:09:14.440 difficult to get rid of. So if you have Ontario 00:09:14.440 --> 00:09:17.659 and Quebec provinces, and even then you don't 00:09:17.659 --> 00:09:21.240 need the northern parts at all. That's just tundra 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:23.500 where bears live. That's it. Game over. 00:09:23.500 --> 00:09:26.000 You don't care about Vancouver. You can scoop 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:28.500 it up later. We should take it. That's 00:09:28.500 --> 00:09:31.669 probably. Look, I read this in a number 00:09:31.669 --> 00:09:31.969 of ways. Like you, I would imagine this is also 00:09:31.969 --> 00:09:33.370 for Canadian domestic consumption. And rightfully 00:09:33.370 --> 00:09:37.070 so. The Canadians are stirred up and 00:09:37.070 --> 00:09:40.450 it's not without cause. Whip them up. Whip them 00:09:40.450 --> 00:09:43.269 up. Yeah. And on the other hand, this is also 00:09:43.269 --> 00:09:46.049 that thing where governments have 00:09:46.049 --> 00:09:48.590 to have contingency plans for every possible 00:09:48.590 --> 00:09:51.149 thing, right? So right now the United States I 00:09:51.149 --> 00:09:54.450 guarantee you has an invasion plan in a dusty 00:09:54.450 --> 00:09:57.289 file cabinet somewhere for the U.S. invasion 00:09:57.289 --> 00:10:00.899 and occupation of Vanuatu. And we have, 00:10:00.899 --> 00:10:03.700 what if we're attacked by Cuba? Who 00:10:03.700 --> 00:10:06.519 knows, right? So the Canadians 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:09.259 are no different. They're a real country. They 00:10:09.259 --> 00:10:12.740 have a military. They have to have contingency 00:10:12.740 --> 00:10:16.340 plans. And he was clear about saying this 00:10:16.340 --> 00:10:20.190 is not like we don't think this is going to happen, 00:10:20.190 --> 00:10:22.590 but just in case. But I thought the mere fact 00:10:22.590 --> 00:10:25.509 that he could bring this up, and he's not a stupid 00:10:25.509 --> 00:10:28.269 man. In an interview with The New York Times, 00:10:28.269 --> 00:10:31.629 tells me. This isn't a message 00:10:31.629 --> 00:10:31.929 for a Canadian audience 00:10:31.929 --> 00:10:35.450 who are reading the Toronto Star. 00:10:35.450 --> 00:10:38.870 This is for an American audience. 00:10:38.870 --> 00:10:41.870 This is how much I'm telling you guys how much 00:10:41.870 --> 00:10:42.170 you guys have scared us and how pissed off we 00:10:42.170 --> 00:10:45.720 are. Yeah, well, scared the world. Yeah. 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:48.460 Donald Trump threatened to attack Greenland. 00:10:48.460 --> 00:10:50.740 Right. Right. And the Greenlanders are more to 00:10:50.740 --> 00:10:51.040 the point. The Danes rolled. Yeah. So 00:10:51.040 --> 00:10:54.960 it's not like we're just going after brown people 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:58.600 or we're just going after Persians. It's not 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.720 that. We are putting the world on notice. Again, 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:07.159 when Donald Trump put that map out. Our imperialism 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:10.600 isn't racist. Right. We have equity in our militarism. 00:11:10.600 --> 00:11:11.939 Give him credit. He's equal opportunity. 00:11:11.939 --> 00:11:15.139 He's like, hey I like that too. Yeah. But we're 00:11:15.139 --> 00:11:18.679 white people we don't care. That's cool. Yeah it's 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:22.059 like fair enough. He's equal opportunity. He's not 00:11:22.059 --> 00:11:24.700 being racist about it. Good for him on that. 00:11:24.700 --> 00:11:28.879 From an economic standpoint it makes sense. 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:29.279 Canada has all this tar sand, has a 00:11:29.279 --> 00:11:31.360 crap ton of natural resources that we want that 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:36.720 we need that we covet. And to the point, 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:37.399 JT, think about this. And those bear rugs are going 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:40.080 to look nice on our sofa. Whenever I play Civilization, 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:43.759 and I've got to know about you. By the way, we've 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:48.480 got to pick up our Civilization game again. Do 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:50.440 you ever spawn and you're right there next to 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:52.399 a neighbor who's huge with a crap ton of resources, 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:55.200 no military, you're sitting right there like, 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:57.080 I want that. Do you ever just go across the border? 00:11:57.080 --> 00:11:59.360 What can they do? Do you ever just go across 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:01.799 the border when you play Civ and take it? If 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:04.659 so, that's a human condition. It's like we were 00:12:04.659 --> 00:12:07.279 giving them the option of being a governor. You 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:09.820 didn't want to take that. We tried. And at that 00:12:09.820 --> 00:12:13.480 point you say, hey man, we feel under threat 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:15.399 by Canadian Mounties. That's so funny, right? 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:18.120 We think Canada has nuclear weapons and we can't 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:18.519 allow Canada to have nukes. This was 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:20.580 literally, wasn't it some Bill Murray movie or 00:12:20.580 --> 00:12:20.880 something? Like in the 70s or 80s where Canada 00:12:20.880 --> 00:12:23.179 invades the US? Yeah. So it's literally it. It's 00:12:23.179 --> 00:12:23.700 literally a joke. Literally, it was a comedy 00:12:23.700 --> 00:12:25.899 routine. That's where the Bill Clinton-Monica 00:12:25.899 --> 00:12:28.379 Lewinsky thing came from. The wag the dog thing. 00:12:28.379 --> 00:12:31.440 The idea that the U.S. played up as if Canada 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:34.320 was going to invade America in order to get away 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:37.519 from a scandal that was taking place in America. 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:40.720 That's where it made it, right? Wag the Dog, 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:44.460 I think. Wag the Dog, yeah. And that's where 00:12:44.460 --> 00:12:44.779 the phrase came from. When Bill Clinton was trying 00:12:44.779 --> 00:12:47.320 to... They claimed that Bill Clinton launched 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:49.460 airstrikes in order to distract from Monica Lewinsky 00:12:49.460 --> 00:12:52.080 and wag the dog. Yeah, the Canadian thing. Look, 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:54.700 I'm being tongue in cheek when I say we should 00:12:54.700 --> 00:12:59.179 take Canada. I hope so. But that is what we did 00:12:59.179 --> 00:13:02.700 to Greenland. And that is what we did to Venezuela. 00:13:02.700 --> 00:13:03.500 That is what we did to Iran. And what we're about 00:13:03.500 --> 00:13:05.179 to do to Cuba. That's what we did to Mexico. 00:13:05.179 --> 00:13:05.479 This is not a new 00:13:05.479 --> 00:13:09.539 phenomenon. Right. No, but the thing is, will 00:13:09.539 --> 00:13:12.799 it stick? Anyone, 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:15.360 as the Afghans can tell you, anyone can invade, 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:15.720 but can you occupy? And occupation is hard. So 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:17.539 I mean. Just to be clear, I'm not truly 00:13:17.539 --> 00:13:17.839 suggesting we should invade Canada. I just want 00:13:17.839 --> 00:13:19.440 to make sure. I don't want people to like Jamarl 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:21.379 saying we should take Greenland and Canada. 00:13:21.379 --> 00:13:23.779 No, no. Look, we can't even run our own country. 00:13:23.779 --> 00:13:26.340 Right. Are you kidding? This 00:13:26.340 --> 00:13:31.350 country is a cesspool with 00:13:31.350 --> 00:13:32.210 declining birth, with declining infant, with 00:13:32.210 --> 00:13:33.909 rising infant mortality. We can't send our kids 00:13:33.909 --> 00:13:37.409 to college anymore. Everyone's broke. 00:13:37.409 --> 00:13:40.029 The economy's a disaster. And just you wait. 00:13:40.029 --> 00:13:40.329 And yeah, no, it's nuts. 00:13:40.329 --> 00:13:42.629 We should do some comments and then yes. 00:13:42.629 --> 00:13:44.809 All right hold on let me just say this real quick. 00:13:44.809 --> 00:13:45.109 Wouldn't, if we're going to be 00:13:45.109 --> 00:13:47.269 fighting wars and stuff, 00:13:47.269 --> 00:13:50.269 building an empire, would it make sense to actually 00:13:50.269 --> 00:13:54.220 take over a country that would benefit us? Instead 00:13:54.220 --> 00:13:54.520 of occupying Afghanistan for 20 years, which 00:13:54.520 --> 00:13:56.960 you got nothing out of, at least Canada would 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:02.740 give something of material benefit to the empire, 00:14:02.740 --> 00:14:03.040 unlike Afghanistan. So you can at least make 00:14:03.040 --> 00:14:06.779 the logical choice. And think about all of the 00:14:06.779 --> 00:14:10.080 illegal pot that comes across the northern border. 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:11.500 That's a massive national security issue because 00:14:11.500 --> 00:14:13.019 Americans don't grow their own pot. It's all 00:14:13.019 --> 00:14:13.559 coming from Canada. You've got to stop it. Wait, 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:16.779 wait. Pot's coming? I don't think that's true 00:14:16.779 --> 00:14:17.159 at all. No, you're throwing pot. First 00:14:17.159 --> 00:14:19.279 of all, the Canadian climate isn't good for pot. 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:22.220 Trust me, I live in Montana. But also, the vast 00:14:22.220 --> 00:14:26.080 majority of the weed that's sold on the street 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:28.639 in the United States originates now in legal 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:32.240 grow houses, right? Basically, since legalization, 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:35.580 there's overproduction, and they can't sell enough 00:14:35.580 --> 00:14:39.980 of it through legal dispensaries. So it's mostly 00:14:39.980 --> 00:14:42.360 just dumped on the street. So most of the weed 00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:44.659 you can get from Joe Bob is perfectly 00:14:44.659 --> 00:14:46.659 good. It's the same you can buy at the dispensary 00:14:46.659 --> 00:14:47.120 because it's a great market. You'll buy weed 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:48.500 off the street at this point. Those taxes. I just 00:14:48.500 --> 00:14:48.800 don't get why. Look man, 00:14:48.800 --> 00:14:50.919 I'd love it cheaper. Yeah there's no taxes on 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:54.700 no. Yeah. Believe me, street weed, I don't 00:14:54.700 --> 00:14:57.620 buy it, but I know someone who does. I know someone 00:14:57.620 --> 00:14:59.659 who does, and the same shit is literally half 00:14:59.659 --> 00:15:03.379 the price, and it's the same shit. It's not the 00:15:03.379 --> 00:15:03.679 same shit, though. If I go to the weed shop, 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:05.960 and I say, hey, I would like Thai lights. And 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:10.019 they say, okay, well, here's your container of 00:15:10.019 --> 00:15:12.240 Thai lights. And Thai lights may be expensive, 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:12.540 right? Or Northern Lights. Dispensary weed is 00:15:12.540 --> 00:15:14.259 expensive. Yeah, but it's the same exact stuff. 00:15:14.259 --> 00:15:15.990 It's not the same thing. They're different products. 00:15:15.990 --> 00:15:17.789 They're different types. It's the same product 00:15:17.789 --> 00:15:18.089 because it's grown in the same exact facility, 00:15:18.089 --> 00:15:19.509 usually in California. Ted, there are so many 00:15:19.509 --> 00:15:21.990 different brands of weed. I know. I've been to 00:15:21.990 --> 00:15:24.730 dispensaries. I know. Right. I guess I'm saying 00:15:24.730 --> 00:15:25.030 it's not the same. If I'm going in, for example, 00:15:25.030 --> 00:15:29.009 if somebody says, I want something from New Rock. 00:15:29.009 --> 00:15:31.850 You can order that specific strain, though. And 00:15:31.850 --> 00:15:35.070 in New York City, for example, it'll be 00:15:35.070 --> 00:15:39.529 delivered to you. Right. From a street vendor. 00:15:39.529 --> 00:15:39.870 Is that what you're saying? From yeah, yeah exactly. 00:15:39.870 --> 00:15:43.190 Usually you go out they text you they say come 00:15:43.190 --> 00:15:46.970 out into the street a guy drives by hands it 00:15:46.970 --> 00:15:49.370 to you and he's selling it off the street. He's 00:15:49.370 --> 00:15:52.820 not selling it from a dispensary. No. Yeah exactly. 00:15:52.820 --> 00:15:55.100 He's selling it from, he probably has it in his 00:15:55.100 --> 00:15:57.519 apartment. I'm very doubtful. Well I believe that 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:01.299 you can get it in New York and I believe that 00:16:01.299 --> 00:16:04.039 they can deliver it in New York and you're in 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:07.379 D.C. I can't imagine it's any different. It's a 00:16:07.379 --> 00:16:11.429 real city. Well I'm in Richmond. Wait, wait, wait. 00:16:11.429 --> 00:16:16.330 Richmond's a real city too. Kalispell would probably be not, they don't have 00:16:16.330 --> 00:16:19.690 delivery systems and stuff like that, but. Well, 00:16:19.690 --> 00:16:21.409 they have delivery systems, but they're from 00:16:21.409 --> 00:16:24.090 dispensaries. That's what I'm trying to say. 00:16:24.090 --> 00:16:24.390 Right, right, right, right. That's not what I 00:16:24.390 --> 00:16:27.090 mean. I mean, talking about, I think there's 00:16:27.090 --> 00:16:28.889 a lot of gray market weed, stuff that sort of 00:16:28.889 --> 00:16:30.870 falls off a truck. In D.C. it is. There's a 00:16:30.870 --> 00:16:31.170 huge amount of gray market stuff. Like in D.C. 00:16:31.170 --> 00:16:33.909 you can go to a weed house and they would 00:16:33.909 --> 00:16:37.950 have just crispy tree. Let's do some comments 00:16:37.950 --> 00:16:38.519 here. Okay. Ray is taking me to account for my 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:40.620 bedhead. I'm like, I don't have bedhead today. 00:16:40.620 --> 00:16:40.920 This is normal. You should see my bedhead. I 00:16:40.920 --> 00:16:42.000 look like McNulty. Jackson, would you do a PhD? 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:44.539 Would you do a PhD, Robby? That's a, 00:16:44.539 --> 00:16:48.100 okay. So yes. Yes, I would. But I'm worried about 00:16:48.100 --> 00:16:51.100 the opportunity cost of it takes 00:16:51.100 --> 00:16:54.240 five years on average, can take longer. 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:56.879 And during that time, I'm not doing this podcast 00:16:56.879 --> 00:16:57.179 and I'm not drawing cartoons or not as much as 00:16:57.179 --> 00:16:58.500 I should be. So I'm 63 years old. Do I now want 00:16:58.500 --> 00:17:01.860 to be 68 years old and with a PhD, which is cool, 00:17:01.860 --> 00:17:04.460 it would be fun to have, besides which I would 00:17:04.460 --> 00:17:07.240 also need a master's. So seven years, I'd be 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:07.540 70 years old. I think that'd be great. If I had 00:17:07.540 --> 00:17:09.599 the money and the time to do that I would totally. 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:12.779 I love college. I love studying. But also a PhD 00:17:12.779 --> 00:17:14.799 isn't really college where you get to hang out 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:18.559 at seminars and shoot the and solve the world's 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:21.460 problems. A PhD is a lot of individual research 00:17:21.460 --> 00:17:23.240 which is pretty lonely. So I guess I'm sorry to 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:27.779 weasel. I'm like maybe. How about you guys? No. 00:17:27.779 --> 00:17:29.480 It's nice to be a doctor but the work that 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:30.960 you put into it properly. No there's other things 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:32.960 I would prefer. I prefer to be a chess master. 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:36.089 I would prefer to go back to a master's in 00:17:36.089 --> 00:17:36.750 history. I've never been to college. I don't see 00:17:36.750 --> 00:17:38.809 the point. I do see the point. It's 00:17:38.809 --> 00:17:39.109 well if 00:17:39.109 --> 00:17:41.109 seriously let's just say you're rich and you 00:17:41.109 --> 00:17:43.349 have nothing better and you can do anything you 00:17:43.349 --> 00:17:43.649 want. College is a lot of fun especially when 00:17:43.649 --> 00:17:44.690 you're young. It's like you're 00:17:44.690 --> 00:17:46.150 meeting, you're hanging out with other people 00:17:46.150 --> 00:17:46.450 and studying and the world feels open and you 00:17:46.450 --> 00:17:47.450 have possibilities and you have access to 00:17:47.450 --> 00:17:49.990 research institutions. It can be a lot of fun. 00:17:49.990 --> 00:17:51.930 I think it's maybe not as fun if you're at a 00:17:51.930 --> 00:17:54.230 community college or something. Ted, I've heard 00:17:54.230 --> 00:17:54.530 your stories about studying. I'm a married man, 00:17:54.530 --> 00:17:56.769 so I don't think I could study the same way that 00:17:56.769 --> 00:17:57.069 you did with your extracurricular activities. 00:17:57.069 --> 00:17:58.589 You probably wouldn't be married when you're 00:17:58.589 --> 00:18:03.269 going to college. Most people aren't. I was a 00:18:03.269 --> 00:18:06.500 good student. I graduated with honors. Yeah, 00:18:06.500 --> 00:18:08.640 you're going to get a three-year degree on threesomes. 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:08.940 Lay Pipe 401. Not just threesomes. Her Majesty 00:18:08.940 --> 00:18:12.059 Lindsey Graham says, sup, heifers. And Jackson, 00:18:12.059 --> 00:18:16.299 did you dye your hair since yesterday? Ted, you 00:18:16.299 --> 00:18:17.500 look different. Yeah, it's weird. I look grayer. 00:18:17.500 --> 00:18:23.140 Yeah, I think it's just the light is different. 00:18:23.140 --> 00:18:23.440 Okay. And no, I don't dye my hair. I've never 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:28.109 dyed my hair ever in my life. I can't say I never 00:18:28.109 --> 00:18:30.650 would, but actually, I like the way my hair looks 00:18:30.650 --> 00:18:33.089 right now. Is it the laptop versus the iPad? 00:18:33.089 --> 00:18:33.410 Oh, that's probably what it is. That might be 00:18:33.410 --> 00:18:36.029 it. Different camera. Because I have an external 00:18:36.029 --> 00:18:38.789 camera on my home computer. Thank you, Ray, for 00:18:38.789 --> 00:18:42.750 gifting a subscription to DeProgram. We do need 00:18:42.750 --> 00:18:46.849 those subscriptions. Moth36, the dog can now 00:18:46.849 --> 00:18:47.149 be an FBI agent. So true. So true. Pura Vida. 00:18:47.149 --> 00:18:48.769 Guys, I highly recommend you pay subscribe. Ted 00:18:48.769 --> 00:18:51.430 sends pics of him in his briefs on request. Uh-huh. 00:18:51.430 --> 00:18:54.450 You don't need to wait for him to get up 00:18:54.450 --> 00:18:56.769 and let the cat inside the room. Okay. Liza Lan. 00:18:56.769 --> 00:19:00.369 Do you know how big Canada is? You Americans 00:19:00.369 --> 00:19:03.309 are stupid. Yeah, I know. Canada is huge. But 00:19:03.309 --> 00:19:06.589 I think the point that we're making is most of 00:19:06.589 --> 00:19:09.230 it is empty. It's like if you're in Iceland. 00:19:09.230 --> 00:19:13.289 Iceland is mostly empty. It's huge landmass. 00:19:13.289 --> 00:19:19.410 You don't need to control the Canadian wildfire 00:19:19.410 --> 00:19:24.230 zones. Yeah, you don't need the polar bears. 00:19:24.230 --> 00:19:27.410 Polar bears can do what they do. They've got 00:19:27.410 --> 00:19:30.029 that under control. Yeah, just get the part that's 00:19:30.029 --> 00:19:32.650 important. So in Montana, you take three cities, 00:19:32.650 --> 00:19:36.130 you have the entire state. Yeah, you don't need 00:19:36.130 --> 00:19:42.150 all of it. Honestly, New York, if you 00:19:42.150 --> 00:19:44.210 wanted to control New York State, all you need 00:19:44.210 --> 00:19:45.750 is the city. And maybe you could use Buffalo. 00:19:45.750 --> 00:19:50.029 You don't even need Albany. Yeah, yeah. So, yes, 00:19:50.029 --> 00:19:54.000 we know Canada is huge. We're just talking about 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:56.319 the population center. And, yes, Americans are 00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:02.900 incredibly stupid. F you so. I took community 00:20:02.900 --> 00:20:05.680 college classes for 12 years and got 15. What? 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:11.869 15 associate's degrees and three certificates. 00:20:11.869 --> 00:20:12.169 It's cheap and no stress when old and doesn't 00:20:12.169 --> 00:20:13.829 matter. So I ended up going to. 15 is a little 00:20:13.829 --> 00:20:15.769 crazy. I went to Longwood first. I was sick most 00:20:15.769 --> 00:20:18.549 of the time I was in Longwood. I ended up coming 00:20:18.549 --> 00:20:18.849 out. I ended up going back to J. Sargeant Reynolds, 00:20:18.849 --> 00:20:20.390 ECPI. I got two certificates from both of them. 00:20:20.390 --> 00:20:22.369 Well, that's not true. One was a certificate. 00:20:22.369 --> 00:20:22.710 One was an associate's degree. Then I went to 00:20:22.710 --> 00:20:23.990 get the bachelor's from New York Institute of 00:20:23.990 --> 00:20:31.569 Technology and have a herbal bachelor's degree 00:20:31.569 --> 00:20:34.919 that I never used. We had a thing in 00:20:34.919 --> 00:20:38.599 Richmond where if you went to community college, 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:38.899 you could skip the first two years of your regular 00:20:38.899 --> 00:20:43.839 college, if that makes sense. But it doesn't 00:20:43.839 --> 00:20:48.599 work great. Yeah. There's stuff that you need. 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:48.899 So you graduated with a bachelor's? Yeah, I graduated 00:20:48.899 --> 00:20:50.940 with a bachelor's from New York Institute of 00:20:50.940 --> 00:20:54.680 Technology, J. Sargeant Reynolds. I got my associate's 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:54.980 in. And I got my software degree from ECPI. ECPI 00:20:54.980 --> 00:20:56.660 was like a college event which became 00:20:56.660 --> 00:20:57.500 kind of like a community technical college here in 00:20:57.500 --> 00:21:00.880 Richmond but I got associates from, I got a degree 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:04.509 from that which is what I used to go into software 00:21:04.509 --> 00:21:06.869 and which start doing the software development 00:21:06.869 --> 00:21:09.970 stuff. Yeah now you wouldn't even need a degree 00:21:09.970 --> 00:21:10.270 right? Not really. They 00:21:10.270 --> 00:21:12.170 care more about your skill and capability. In fact 00:21:12.170 --> 00:21:15.970 they have classes. Yeah and testing. I 00:21:15.970 --> 00:21:19.789 think technical tests anyway. When 00:21:19.789 --> 00:21:22.670 you go into software usually there's a panel 00:21:22.670 --> 00:21:26.450 of people who you're talking to and they're 00:21:26.450 --> 00:21:34.819 evaluating you and sometimes they have you doing 00:21:34.819 --> 00:21:35.539 stuff on boards and coming up with software logic 00:21:35.539 --> 00:21:39.240 and all this other stuff. Yeah technical interviews 00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:42.240 can be intense. So, OK, well, let's I think we 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:42.540 should keep. Oh, let's see. Did I hit all the 00:21:42.540 --> 00:21:44.299 comments here? Oh, I got to say, if I had to 00:21:44.299 --> 00:21:49.859 do if I really wanted to do things my way, I'd 00:21:49.859 --> 00:21:50.559 honestly get a history master's PhD combo. And 00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:52.819 it would probably I know it's stupid, but it 00:21:52.819 --> 00:21:56.000 would probably help me sell my books better. 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:58.599 What's not stupid? Knowledge for the sake of 00:21:58.599 --> 00:22:00.220 knowledge is not a negative thing. Yeah, no, 00:22:00.220 --> 00:22:00.839 it's just the accreditation thing. Look, 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:04.119 I like dusty archives. I like handling 00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:04.419 documents that the President of the United States 00:22:04.419 --> 00:22:07.859 handled. It's just cool. And I 00:22:07.859 --> 00:22:09.960 think and obviously you learn a lot, but I'm just saying 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:10.260 it's stupid that someone would buy 00:22:10.260 --> 00:22:12.559 your book because it says Ted Rall, Ph.D. on 00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:14.900 it. My mom used to say that I should have used 00:22:14.900 --> 00:22:18.119 my formal name, my legal name for my books because 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:18.419 I would be taken more seriously. And she was 00:22:18.419 --> 00:22:20.400 kind of ridiculous. But I kind of see her point 00:22:20.400 --> 00:22:24.420 like Frederick T. Rall the Third. 00:22:24.420 --> 00:22:26.740 It just sounds very serious. Yeah 00:22:26.740 --> 00:22:30.190 it sounds very serious and pretentious 00:22:30.190 --> 00:22:30.490 which is something I do hate. All right so 00:22:30.490 --> 00:22:34.109 that's it for the comments for now. Should 00:22:34.109 --> 00:22:34.409 we talk about ICE? Yeah we should talk about ICE. 00:22:34.409 --> 00:22:36.549 Okay or we can move on to I want to talk I'm 00:22:36.549 --> 00:22:38.410 really dying to talk about Mary Peltola. Shall 00:22:38.410 --> 00:22:42.250 we talk about her? Yeah. Okay so Mary Peltola is 00:22:42.250 --> 00:22:45.650 an Alaska Native running. She's the Democratic 00:22:45.650 --> 00:22:46.250 nominee for Senate. Democrats were very, very excited 00:22:46.250 --> 00:22:49.410 about her. And basically 00:22:49.410 --> 00:22:49.710 she 00:22:49.710 --> 00:22:52.789 was kind of favored to win probably in what would 00:22:52.789 --> 00:22:56.809 likely be a blue wave election this November. 00:22:56.809 --> 00:22:57.109 And she still might. The New York Times just 00:22:57.109 --> 00:22:59.619 published this piece that basically says she's 00:22:59.619 --> 00:23:01.299 an asshole. Basically, she pushed one of her 00:23:01.299 --> 00:23:04.619 aides, shoved him in the chest, almost knocked 00:23:04.619 --> 00:23:08.000 him over. She apparently has a raging temper. 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:08.300 She likes to dress down people in front of others. 00:23:08.300 --> 00:23:10.220 All reportedly, allegedly, all the normal weasel 00:23:10.220 --> 00:23:10.520 words. My personal favorite, and you'll know 00:23:10.520 --> 00:23:14.099 why, is that she was taken to task for using 00:23:14.099 --> 00:23:17.660 the R-word, retard, as in, fuck that retard. 00:23:17.660 --> 00:23:21.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And she also used the 00:23:21.660 --> 00:23:25.670 F-word, where she was referring to someone as 00:23:25.670 --> 00:23:27.829 a faggot. Really. And I'm like, okay, so definitely 00:23:27.829 --> 00:23:28.129 shades of Amy Klobuchar. So she has two principal 00:23:28.129 --> 00:23:30.750 lines of defense here. Well three. One is 00:23:30.750 --> 00:23:35.029 I knew her and I worked for her and she was great 00:23:35.029 --> 00:23:38.529 and I didn't see anything like that from some 00:23:38.529 --> 00:23:38.829 people. Okay that's not much of a defense. Okay 00:23:38.829 --> 00:23:41.990 then because it's like so what maybe she was 00:23:41.990 --> 00:23:43.470 nice to you. Okay then the 00:23:43.470 --> 00:23:47.869 next line of defense is this is sexism, 00:23:47.869 --> 00:23:52.980 double standard, dudes act like this all the time 00:23:52.980 --> 00:23:53.280 and so what's with this. This is just like 00:23:53.280 --> 00:23:56.359 what y'all did to Amy Klobuchar. That was also 00:23:56.359 --> 00:23:58.140 her principal line of defense. And then 00:23:58.140 --> 00:24:03.240 there's also people who are just 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:06.759 like I don't care I'm going to vote for a Democrat 00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:09.140 against any Republican no matter what. Team 00:24:09.140 --> 00:24:12.200 Team Blue no matter what. And that's not really 00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:15.339 defense that's an annulment. Yeah that's just 00:24:15.339 --> 00:24:17.180 yeah that's right. And so wait, what was 00:24:17.180 --> 00:24:21.009 the other thing that she said? Oh, yeah. She 00:24:21.009 --> 00:24:24.410 said that in 2023, she suffered two big deaths 00:24:24.410 --> 00:24:26.910 in her family. Her mother died and her, look, 00:24:26.910 --> 00:24:30.349 I feel that. My mom died six years ago and I'm 00:24:30.349 --> 00:24:32.630 still not over it. So I totally feel that. And 00:24:32.630 --> 00:24:35.109 also her husband died in a plane crash so she 00:24:35.109 --> 00:24:38.029 was raising as a widow raising her kids 00:24:38.029 --> 00:24:42.769 and she says I was look I was short-tempered. 00:24:42.769 --> 00:24:45.250 I was strung out and grieving and so 00:24:45.250 --> 00:24:48.329 I took it out on myself. I may have 00:24:48.329 --> 00:24:51.950 taken it out on my staff, right? So these lines 00:24:51.950 --> 00:24:57.609 of defense are somewhat in conflict with each 00:24:57.609 --> 00:25:00.549 other, right? Because I didn't do it but if 00:25:00.549 --> 00:25:04.589 I did it this is because of 00:25:04.589 --> 00:25:05.240 my grieving. The one that interests me is the 00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:07.180 sexism one. I don't know. Because it's like. 00:25:07.180 --> 00:25:08.759 I even wrote it down. You said it. I even wrote 00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:09.059 it down. Go ahead. No, no, no. So the reason 00:25:09.059 --> 00:25:11.680 it interests me is, first of all. I don't know 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:11.980 that I buy the assumption that men behave like 00:25:11.980 --> 00:25:15.319 this all the time and don't get called to task 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:17.119 for it. I think that's something that mean women 00:25:17.119 --> 00:25:21.460 like Hillary Clinton say. And I've 00:25:21.460 --> 00:25:23.220 worked for a lot of male bosses, mostly male 00:25:23.220 --> 00:25:25.599 bosses and some female bosses, and they ran the 00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:28.599 gamut. I've had like by some counts, 00:25:28.599 --> 00:25:30.799 like over 40 jobs. And I've had lots of freelance 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:34.339 clients, hundreds of them. So 00:25:34.339 --> 00:25:36.900 I've had lots of supervisors, editors, and so on. 00:25:36.900 --> 00:25:39.700 And I gotta say that men tend, on average, 00:25:39.700 --> 00:25:43.660 at least in my experience, to be better bosses 00:25:43.660 --> 00:25:44.299 than women. And they tend to be calmer and they 00:25:44.299 --> 00:25:49.619 tend not to go to these very bad places 00:25:49.619 --> 00:25:52.339 like belittling and name calling as quickly as 00:25:52.339 --> 00:25:55.839 women. Now, I guess what I really want 00:25:55.839 --> 00:26:00.119 to say is if a dude was running for Senate and 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:02.940 these same allegations came out about him, I 00:26:02.940 --> 00:26:06.619 suspect they would be as notable and they would 00:26:06.619 --> 00:26:09.119 be as noticed as the fact that it's in this case, 00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:13.019 it's from a woman. I think it's the fact it's 00:26:13.019 --> 00:26:15.839 not the fact that she's a mean girl. It's the 00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:19.640 fact that she's a mean person. And I think the 00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:25.140 question for voters is, do they or should they 00:26:25.140 --> 00:26:25.769 care? And that's really the question we should 00:26:25.769 --> 00:26:29.509 be asking. I'm not even sure it's 00:26:29.509 --> 00:26:32.029 worthy of bringing. I'm not sure in a world 00:26:32.029 --> 00:26:32.329 where The New York Times every day skips entire 00:26:32.329 --> 00:26:34.809 countries to cover that this is really worth 00:26:34.809 --> 00:26:36.890 the space. Her person, the way 00:26:36.890 --> 00:26:41.490 she deals with personnel. In a way, I have to 00:26:41.490 --> 00:26:43.650 admit, I don't really care. I would care how 00:26:43.650 --> 00:26:47.430 she votes. I would care about the policy she 00:26:47.430 --> 00:26:47.730 promulgates. I would have voted 00:26:47.730 --> 00:26:49.970 for Ted Kennedy. I wouldn't have let my daughter 00:26:49.970 --> 00:26:50.480 ride in a car with him, but I would have voted 00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:53.779 for him because of his policy priorities. 00:26:53.779 --> 00:26:58.000 Bernie Sanders is apparently very loyal 00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:01.579 to his wife. I don't really care. It doesn't 00:27:01.579 --> 00:27:06.160 affect me one way or the other. But they don't 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:07.259 write articles like this about men. I 00:27:07.259 --> 00:27:15.559 remember when men aren't really like this as 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:18.259 much as women are. Well, one, I don't know that 00:27:18.259 --> 00:27:23.339 many they don't. Obviously, they're going 00:27:23.339 --> 00:27:28.720 to be people in the political space that act 00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:32.700 this way. And I would even like Rahm Emanuel. 00:27:32.700 --> 00:27:33.000 He's like that. Right. Rahm Emanuel 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:34.900 is an asshole, but they don't write articles 00:27:34.900 --> 00:27:36.559 about this in a negative context about him 00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:40.319 being this way. And I gotta be honest with you 00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:42.599 I would wager to you that many political people 00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:46.480 are this way just from the pressure of getting 00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:50.279 into the positions that they're in. They all yell 00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:53.180 and curse and carry on and bark at their subordinates 00:27:53.180 --> 00:27:56.279 by definition to get to where they are. Now it 00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:58.539 doesn't mean that all of them this way but I 00:27:58.539 --> 00:28:03.680 can imagine that getting to this particular position 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:05.279 you have a certain personality type of getting 00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:06.740 to this position. It's like they always say, 00:28:06.740 --> 00:28:09.799 CEOs and politicians are sociopaths, and that 00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:12.779 you on some level need to be that way. And this 00:28:12.779 --> 00:28:15.099 kind of type of personality need to get to the 00:28:15.099 --> 00:28:18.940 position. People like Sanders, who don't want 00:28:18.940 --> 00:28:24.039 to hit their opponent, don't typically get to 00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:29.240 that position because they don't necessarily 00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:32.740 want to be who they need to be in order to get 00:28:32.740 --> 00:28:33.040 there. And I guess my point is, they would write 00:28:33.040 --> 00:28:35.839 this about Klobuchar and Kamala Harris and this 00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:39.599 woman, but at a really key time, by the way, 00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:44.039 right? Just literally in the clutch, 00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:47.140 just six weeks before the election. 00:28:47.140 --> 00:28:50.339 How many men do they write stories like this 00:28:50.339 --> 00:28:50.639 about? The way Cuomo acted, 00:28:50.639 --> 00:28:54.420 this was only towards the end of his career where 00:28:54.420 --> 00:28:56.980 they went after Cuomo. But Cuomo acted like this 00:28:56.980 --> 00:29:00.779 all the way through. Rahm Emanuel acted like 00:29:00.779 --> 00:29:03.000 this all the way through. Cuomo's stuff was more 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:05.579 serious. He was an ass grabber. Well, that too. 00:29:05.579 --> 00:29:08.660 I guess I'm saying maybe they do have a point. 00:29:08.660 --> 00:29:12.240 That the mean girl thing is a mean girl thing. 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:15.500 Meaning they didn't make a movie Mean 00:29:15.500 --> 00:29:15.800 Boys. Mean Girls, right? Yeah. Even though men 00:29:15.800 --> 00:29:19.099 do come in groups and act like basically I guess 00:29:19.099 --> 00:29:22.700 you would call that a gang. But I don't know. 00:29:22.700 --> 00:29:25.980 I don't think this behavior is, and see 00:29:25.980 --> 00:29:29.859 I'm in a bubble in this. I don't know. You 00:29:29.859 --> 00:29:32.140 may be right that it may be this thing of 00:29:32.140 --> 00:29:34.559 well, women need to overcompensate. And in overcompensating, 00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.859 they have this idea in their heads about how 00:29:37.859 --> 00:29:40.319 men behave. And they are trying to behave in 00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:43.839 a similar way as they think. Yeah, this is what 00:29:43.839 --> 00:29:46.500 leadership looks like. Because leadership has 00:29:46.500 --> 00:29:46.800 always been male and aggressive. And I have to 00:29:46.800 --> 00:29:49.440 be aggressive. And I've got to dress like a man 00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:53.059 and cut my hair real short. And be an asshole. 00:29:53.059 --> 00:29:55.420 And be strong. Militaristic. Yeah. The reality 00:29:55.420 --> 00:29:55.720 of it is, okay, well, men don't entirely act 00:29:55.720 --> 00:30:02.079 this way as bosses all the time. I've 00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:02.379 only had maybe one that was that way. And even 00:30:02.379 --> 00:30:04.740 he wasn't that way all the time. Right? Like, 00:30:04.740 --> 00:30:08.269 he just acted that way when things went awry. 00:30:08.269 --> 00:30:11.609 I've had women bosses that were horrendous. And 00:30:11.609 --> 00:30:15.329 it wasn't because they were women. It was because 00:30:15.329 --> 00:30:19.049 they were just horrible people. Yeah. Everybody 00:30:19.049 --> 00:30:22.490 recognized them as just being horrible people 00:30:22.490 --> 00:30:26.750 in this particular context. A woman I used to 00:30:26.750 --> 00:30:29.250 work for as a barista, she was a lunatic. And 00:30:29.250 --> 00:30:32.710 just very difficult to be around in general. 00:30:32.710 --> 00:30:33.010 But that wasn't the norm. I had another woman 00:30:33.010 --> 00:30:35.900 boss that was chill, cool, and just a really 00:30:35.900 --> 00:30:38.440 good boss. Oh, sure. I've had great female bosses, 00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:41.180 for sure. I don't know. It's very possible 00:30:41.180 --> 00:30:44.000 that this is... I'm divided. It could be... this 00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:46.539 is what women think men are in which case they're 00:30:46.539 --> 00:30:49.599 trying to emulate men when they're getting leadership 00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:52.500 positions and they may be insecurity on some 00:30:52.500 --> 00:30:55.980 level in which case they need to behave this 00:30:55.980 --> 00:30:58.539 way. But the other way could be the media is 00:30:58.539 --> 00:31:01.599 playing up this mean girl thing because the mean 00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:01.899 girl is a meme of sorts and so when they find 00:31:01.899 --> 00:31:04.660 a mean girl they like hey she's mean to her 00:31:04.660 --> 00:31:06.420 staff she's pushing this guy she's hitting this 00:31:06.420 --> 00:31:09.299 guy etc. The other part to this is... Well, 00:31:09.299 --> 00:31:12.519 if true, that is a serious matter. That is assault. 00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.440 It's every bit as serious as 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:17.960 what Cuomo was accused of. Although with Cuomo, 00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:21.480 it was a serial matter. And it was sexual harassment 00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:24.019 too, yeah. The other part to this is, that I 00:31:24.019 --> 00:31:26.440 think is interesting, is A, this is coming just 00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:32.960 before the election. Also, I'm worried. Is using 00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:35.700 the R-word disqualifying? Oh, well, so much for 00:31:35.700 --> 00:31:37.700 my political career. And that's the part, right? 00:31:37.700 --> 00:31:42.339 It's a Democrat. Which, if you're a Republican, 00:31:42.339 --> 00:31:45.460 it doesn't really matter. If you're independent, 00:31:45.460 --> 00:31:47.299 it doesn't really matter. I don't think it does. 00:31:47.299 --> 00:31:50.039 As a Democrat, oh, this is orthodoxy. By the 00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:50.339 way, part of me liked when they quoted her. 00:31:50.339 --> 00:31:53.380 And it was like where she was pissed 00:31:53.380 --> 00:31:54.960 because some guy sent, some fundraiser sent out 00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:57.950 a photo, a selfie of him and her together and 00:31:57.950 --> 00:32:00.009 he wasn't supposed to and she texted 00:32:00.009 --> 00:32:02.089 her staff that retard. I'm like I like this lady's 00:32:02.089 --> 00:32:04.849 style. I literally was like I would feel 00:32:04.849 --> 00:32:07.150 the same way that I love a woman that would drop 00:32:07.150 --> 00:32:11.410 an F-bomb. I think it's very, yeah me too, depending 00:32:11.410 --> 00:32:14.849 on how to do it. I don't want it to be 00:32:14.849 --> 00:32:16.910 if it's I had an interview with a guest the other 00:32:16.910 --> 00:32:19.809 day. I like the fact that she didn't feel the 00:32:19.809 --> 00:32:23.619 need to be woke or that she could talk like a 00:32:23.619 --> 00:32:25.480 real person behind closed doors. And it kind 00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:25.780 of sucks to think that we live in this world 00:32:25.780 --> 00:32:28.940 where every time you text out a brain fart, it's 00:32:28.940 --> 00:32:31.119 going to end up in the fucking New York Times. 00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:32.839 It's not a brain fart. She was pissed off. She 00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:35.180 meant it. Well, I have a question for y'all. 00:32:35.180 --> 00:32:38.279 And I think I probably have a different take 00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.220 than y'all. I think we're going to see more 00:32:40.220 --> 00:32:42.180 of this with women bosses. Because women are 00:32:42.180 --> 00:32:45.460 outperforming men in the workplace. So you're 00:32:45.460 --> 00:32:49.819 going to have more women bosses. You're going 00:32:49.819 --> 00:32:55.019 to have more women executives. More women senators. 00:32:55.019 --> 00:32:55.319 And women like to put knives in other women. 00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:58.019 Listen, I worked in healthcare. It's 00:32:58.019 --> 00:32:58.319 a very woman-dominated industry. It just is. 00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.019 And you are swimming in a sea of estrogen. That's 00:33:01.019 --> 00:33:03.099 one of the reasons I wanted to work from home 00:33:03.099 --> 00:33:06.500 is because... I'm not going to pretend like I 00:33:06.500 --> 00:33:08.799 don't know what you're talking about. It's bad 00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:10.599 enough to be a woman in that environment. Me 00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:12.519 as the only dude, the only guy with external 00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:14.400 plumbing. You were like Clint Eastwood in The 00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.500 Beguiled. It was bad. And the thing is, for example, 00:33:17.500 --> 00:33:18.160 there was this one lady who I had to train. And 00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:20.480 I used the word train loosely because, frankly, 00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:20.890 she was stupid. To borrow a Tedism, she was retarded. 00:33:20.890 --> 00:33:24.230 And so my job was medical records, which involved 00:33:24.230 --> 00:33:27.710 reading and reading comprehension and be able 00:33:27.710 --> 00:33:32.750 to actually understand the document that's 00:33:32.750 --> 00:33:36.210 in front of you. I spent six months training 00:33:36.210 --> 00:33:39.250 this lady. When she finally got done training, 00:33:39.250 --> 00:33:43.569 she called me over to talk to her about an ecology note. 00:33:43.569 --> 00:33:46.410 The first I asked her, so did you read it? She 00:33:46.410 --> 00:33:48.690 said, no. I said, read it, do your job. 00:33:48.690 --> 00:33:49.339 If you need help, come back to me again. She 00:33:49.339 --> 00:33:52.599 went to HR. I got to have six weeks of sensitivity 00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:52.899 training because I was too rough on her. I hurt 00:33:52.899 --> 00:33:54.759 her feelings because I told her to read a document 00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:56.839 and do her job. That was sexist on my part. So 00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:58.579 women who are squealing about this. Come on. 00:33:58.579 --> 00:34:00.500 Who watches this show who would not say that 00:34:00.500 --> 00:34:03.099 you deserve more sensitivity training? Well, 00:34:03.099 --> 00:34:06.019 it's probably why I'm so insensitive. It's because 00:34:06.019 --> 00:34:09.239 I've had enough of all this crap. But seriously, 00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:09.579 Ted, if I don't do the job that you don't pay 00:34:09.579 --> 00:34:15.110 me for, I get called to the carpet for it, for 00:34:15.110 --> 00:34:17.369 not doing the job that I'm not supposed to do. 00:34:17.369 --> 00:34:20.070 And I say, hey, retard. Correct. But 00:34:20.070 --> 00:34:25.630 that's the point. Although you would deserve 00:34:25.630 --> 00:34:28.309 it, but I wouldn't do that, no. Well, of course. 00:34:28.309 --> 00:34:28.609 In which case, I would tell you then to find 00:34:28.609 --> 00:34:30.650 yourself a lower paid producer to replace me 00:34:30.650 --> 00:34:32.429 with. Oh, wait, you can't. I'd have to pay you 00:34:32.429 --> 00:34:37.849 to do the job at that point. But I guess the 00:34:37.849 --> 00:34:40.690 point I'm trying to make is that as women 00:34:40.690 --> 00:34:44.619 climb more and more and more in the 00:34:44.619 --> 00:34:46.519 workplace just to see more and more and more 00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:48.559 of the stuff coming on and women are very toxic 00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:53.579 to each other. It's just a fact of life. Sorry 00:34:53.579 --> 00:34:56.380 ladies if it hurt your feelings. It's the truth. I 00:34:56.380 --> 00:34:56.800 worked in all-male workplaces and I've worked 00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:59.739 in all-female workplaces and 00:34:59.739 --> 00:35:01.980 oh boy. All male is not good. It's 00:35:01.980 --> 00:35:04.360 like you need that. You need the 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:06.199 sexual variety. You need people who 00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:10.239 are more civilized to be present. Men aren't 00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:12.320 civilized. Men are savage. But an all-female 00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:13.960 workplace is so toxic and it's dangerous. You 00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:16.559 just don't want to be around. Is it dangerous? 00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:18.679 Yeah, you will be. Yeah, only bad things 00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:22.119 will happen. All right. But anyway, so let's 00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.000 get back to Mary Peltola. Yeah, I mean, is it 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:27.300 newsworthy? Her family members have passed. Because 00:35:27.300 --> 00:35:31.480 I think it is. Let's assume it's true. Well, 00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:34.139 it is true that they had passed. We don't know 00:35:34.139 --> 00:35:37.039 if it's relevant. Yeah. Look, but that 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.920 brings up another question, right? Grace 00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:40.220 under pressure. Look, in 00:35:40.220 --> 00:35:42.820 2020, during the pandemic, my mom, right before 00:35:42.820 --> 00:35:46.260 the pandemic, my mom died two weeks before the 00:35:46.260 --> 00:35:48.900 lockdown. I didn't spend the next year or two 00:35:48.900 --> 00:35:52.760 screaming at people and calling 00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:58.019 them names and shoving them. So the point is, this is a presumably being a United 00:35:58.019 --> 00:36:01.230 States senator, even albeit from Alaska would 00:36:01.230 --> 00:36:04.869 involve some pressure, some high-pressure 00:36:04.869 --> 00:36:06.869 situations. You'd want to think that 00:36:06.869 --> 00:36:07.169 she'd be able to be calm and address 00:36:07.169 --> 00:36:10.150 those. I don't know. Maybe. People handle 00:36:10.150 --> 00:36:10.450 stuff differently. I know when I got sick 00:36:10.450 --> 00:36:12.170 when I, well ironically just before the pandemic 00:36:12.170 --> 00:36:14.269 and really didn't even have anything to do with 00:36:14.269 --> 00:36:14.569 the pandemic, when I had the stroke when I 00:36:14.569 --> 00:36:17.789 was at the job I mean, in fact, a lot of stuff 00:36:17.789 --> 00:36:20.840 went wrong that year in 2020. It was like a stroke. 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.000 It was MERS. What's this thing called? Oh, what 00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:26.000 is the thing called? I can't think of the name 00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.440 of it. Mindy didn't let me come into work. Mindy 00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:31.079 was like, dude, go home. And I was trying to 00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:34.780 do the job. At one point, he was like, dude, 00:36:34.780 --> 00:36:37.940 go home, go home. Yeah, this could 00:36:37.940 --> 00:36:40.840 be contagious. But a lot of stuff was going wrong 00:36:40.840 --> 00:36:43.300 that year. And I wasn't popping off. I was distant. 00:36:43.300 --> 00:36:45.079 Yeah. You're right. People respond differently. 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:48.159 Yeah. I want to be left to my own devices. I'm 00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:49.320 like you that way. Yeah. And when you're stuck 00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:51.940 with a wife. I don't want to talk about my problems 00:36:51.940 --> 00:36:54.300 because I already have my problem. And if I talk 00:36:54.300 --> 00:36:56.159 about my problem, it's like I'm reliving my problem. 00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:59.880 I'm experiencing it again twice. Well, it's indulging. 00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:01.460 I would consider it's indulging. It's like it's 00:37:01.460 --> 00:37:02.059 it also doesn't do any good. It's almost 00:37:02.059 --> 00:37:04.900 never that someone says hey Ted have you ever 00:37:04.900 --> 00:37:07.460 thought of and I'm like oh no I didn't know that. 00:37:07.460 --> 00:37:07.780 And see I think this is the difference 00:37:07.780 --> 00:37:09.840 between men and women if we're being honest. 00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:12.380 Women would more so indulge. Yeah women always 00:37:12.380 --> 00:37:15.090 say oh you feel so good after you talk about 00:37:15.090 --> 00:37:16.989 something. I'm like I don't. Yeah I don't see the 00:37:16.989 --> 00:37:18.789 point. Unless someone has a practical 00:37:18.789 --> 00:37:22.530 solution. Like if someone says like when I was dealing with the L.A. Times, 00:37:22.530 --> 00:37:23.010 if someone said, oh, I know a good lawyer who 00:37:23.010 --> 00:37:24.809 would be interested in your case. I already talked 00:37:24.809 --> 00:37:25.289 to him. He wants your case. OK, that's really 00:37:25.289 --> 00:37:26.769 useful. Thank you so much. That's helping. Men 00:37:26.769 --> 00:37:31.250 get this wrong. I really think men get this wrong, 00:37:31.250 --> 00:37:31.670 though, like on some level. I think that's why 00:37:31.670 --> 00:37:34.010 men eat their guns. The housewives. One of the 00:37:34.010 --> 00:37:35.269 things that blew my mind about housewives is 00:37:35.269 --> 00:37:40.409 the way they talk about stuff that I would consider 00:37:40.409 --> 00:37:43.380 to be too weak to talk about. And they would 00:37:43.380 --> 00:37:46.019 just openly have these conversations. And I'm 00:37:46.019 --> 00:37:48.320 like, whoa, people talk about that. And I realized, 00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:52.800 oh, right, it's the housewives that are doing 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:56.559 this. These aren't like the housemen or the house 00:37:56.559 --> 00:37:56.859 husbands that are doing this. Husbands don't 00:37:56.859 --> 00:38:01.920 really get into it. They may a little bit, but 00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:04.260 they're usually talking about external stuff. 00:38:04.260 --> 00:38:04.560 The women are talking about internal stuff that 00:38:04.560 --> 00:38:07.800 is effectively bugging them. And you think to 00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:08.400 yourself, is this what you gotta spend your time 00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:12.280 on even in the show the men are like oh god they're 00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:12.699 at it again. They're able on some level to maintain 00:38:12.699 --> 00:38:14.559 their friendships and relationships because they're 00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:16.980 willing to kind of air this stuff. I don't know 00:38:16.980 --> 00:38:20.019 maybe there is a value in just airing stuff. Oh 00:38:20.019 --> 00:38:23.539 clearly there is. It makes a lot of 00:38:23.539 --> 00:38:23.839 people feel better. Yeah but sometimes 00:38:23.839 --> 00:38:25.800 group, I did when I was, 00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:26.100 I supported 00:38:26.100 --> 00:38:28.820 my mom. I was a caregiver for my mom. She had 00:38:28.820 --> 00:38:29.639 Alzheimer's. It was hard. I'm an only child. 00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:32.199 And I went to a support group. And that was useful, 00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:36.019 just basically. My main takeaway, though, was, 00:38:36.019 --> 00:38:36.319 man, my situation sucks, but it could suck worse 00:38:36.319 --> 00:38:39.639 when I heard these other stories. It always can 00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:42.500 be worse. Yeah. I stopped feeling sorry for myself. 00:38:42.500 --> 00:38:44.380 I guess the main point is, well, that 00:38:44.380 --> 00:38:47.360 doesn't. That wouldn't stop me from necessarily 00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:50.579 feeling, well, I guess I can see why it would. 00:38:50.579 --> 00:38:52.820 But it's still the situation, still the situation, 00:38:52.820 --> 00:38:53.120 even though other people's may be worse. It's 00:38:53.120 --> 00:38:56.400 still my own situation in that case. I don't 00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:59.500 know. I give her a little bit of grace 00:38:59.500 --> 00:38:59.800 if it's true, but that's assuming it's true. 00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:01.800 Like, I don't doubt that the people died and 00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:04.300 I don't doubt that it was hard on her. Whether 00:39:04.300 --> 00:39:04.600 that was why she was an asshole to her people, 00:39:04.600 --> 00:39:07.679 she might have just been an asshole to her people. 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:11.889 It just so happened this other stuff might have 00:39:11.889 --> 00:39:13.469 just been going on. I don't know. Yeah, it sounds 00:39:13.469 --> 00:39:13.769 like she's kind of excessively spicy, right? 00:39:13.769 --> 00:39:17.309 Just in general. I 00:39:17.309 --> 00:39:17.609 think that's probably what's going on here. She 00:39:17.609 --> 00:39:18.710 should probably take up hunting and go shoot 00:39:18.710 --> 00:39:21.130 some animals. That's where... Right. Don't take 00:39:21.130 --> 00:39:21.430 it out on your staff. Yeah, yeah. Go shoot something 00:39:21.430 --> 00:39:22.769 that can bite. Then that'll keep you 00:39:22.769 --> 00:39:24.750 busy. Sinema was also rough to her 00:39:24.750 --> 00:39:27.469 staff or something like that. Yeah. 00:39:27.469 --> 00:39:30.349 They seem to do this for women they don't seem 00:39:30.349 --> 00:39:33.199 to do this for men. I haven't read articles oh 00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:36.179 this guy is very and I guess that's true 00:39:36.179 --> 00:39:38.760 and I guess yeah I guess the question 00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:41.320 is yeah. Bill Clinton was an... Yeah 00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:43.519 nobody knows. When I, so I had a friend 00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:46.599 he worked in the West Wing of the White House. 00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:51.679 He's a former cartoonist. And he ended up becoming 00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:56.559 a speechwriter for Bill Clinton. And at that 00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:56.859 time, my cartoons appeared regularly in The Washington 00:39:56.859 --> 00:40:00.579 Post. And I did a cartoon that the president 00:40:00.579 --> 00:40:03.699 didn't care for. And Bill Clinton walked into 00:40:03.699 --> 00:40:06.119 my friend's office and threw the paper on the 00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.340 desk. And he said, you tell your friend to go 00:40:08.340 --> 00:40:12.260 fuck himself. What? So he calls me up and he 00:40:12.260 --> 00:40:16.960 goes, and he's like, the president of the United 00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:21.860 States is pissed at you. Oh shit. Like, that's 00:40:21.860 --> 00:40:25.139 not good. This man can kill me legally. Right? 00:40:25.139 --> 00:40:25.960 Like, it's not good. So I was proud and terrified 00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:29.800 at the same time. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, but 00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:33.900 anyway, obviously here I am, everything's fine. 00:40:33.900 --> 00:40:40.500 But by all accounts, he's, I mean, 00:40:40.500 --> 00:40:43.380 they're all like that, right? They all 00:40:43.380 --> 00:40:46.440 have spicy tempers. And there are exceptions 00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:46.740 like George W. Bush apparently was like a serious 00:40:46.740 --> 00:40:48.579 pleasure to work for. Everybody loved to work 00:40:48.579 --> 00:40:53.730 for him. He was a sweetheart. Donald Trump, a 00:40:53.730 --> 00:40:56.150 lot of people who were close to him for years 00:40:56.150 --> 00:41:00.809 in the Trump organization, like his personal 00:41:00.809 --> 00:41:03.449 assistant, adored him and said that he was always 00:41:03.449 --> 00:41:06.050 very kind and considerate to them. It's like, 00:41:06.050 --> 00:41:08.929 sometimes it's unexpected. I don't 00:41:08.929 --> 00:41:12.570 know. I guess the question is, should 00:41:12.570 --> 00:41:15.369 we care as voters? In other words, should 00:41:15.369 --> 00:41:18.650 reporters care? I care if she's competent, if 00:41:18.650 --> 00:41:22.159 she's competent at her job. Yeah, that's what 00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:24.280 matters. And most people who are competent want 00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:27.179 stuff done a certain way. If you have someone 00:41:27.179 --> 00:41:30.960 that's a complete screw up, like someone asked 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.539 me in the chat, Andre said, Robby, was your 00:41:34.539 --> 00:41:36.619 female boss an immigrant? No, she was just stupid. 00:41:36.619 --> 00:41:40.659 Yeah, like Mary Peltola was told at one point, 00:41:40.659 --> 00:41:42.880 she was angry when she was running for Congress 00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:46.960 because there weren't enough signs, or maybe 00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:49.039 in her current campaign, there weren't enough 00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:51.179 big yard signs in southeastern Alaska. And she, 00:41:51.179 --> 00:41:51.479 according to the Times article, sent out a message 00:41:51.479 --> 00:41:55.940 to her staff and basically said, in the southeast, 00:41:55.940 --> 00:41:57.320 our yard sign game sucks. I'm like, so what? 00:41:57.320 --> 00:41:59.320 She said that. Who cares? She's good for her. She's 00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.420 noticing things. She's on top of things. Yeah she's 00:42:02.420 --> 00:42:06.159 just managing her team. Yeah what should 00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:08.659 she say in that situation? And by the way Hitler's 00:42:08.659 --> 00:42:12.039 secretary thought Hitler was great. Boring though. 00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:17.099 I don't know if you're a god man I can't remember 00:42:17.099 --> 00:42:18.960 the name of the movie but at the end of the movie 00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.440 she's talking about Hitler like oh he's 00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:21.800 such a great guy and everything else and realizing 00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:23.739 what she was saying after the fact like oh my 00:42:23.739 --> 00:42:27.139 god all these people are killed and everything 00:42:27.139 --> 00:42:30.800 else. The person relationship is one thing how 00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:33.840 the person is something else. Yeah so I don't 00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:36.199 know. Some of this stuff just sounds like 00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:36.499 she's just being a manager. Some of this other 00:42:36.499 --> 00:42:39.760 stuff might sound she's been excessive. But again 00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:40.060 I don't know if they would write the story about 00:42:40.060 --> 00:42:42.280 a guy. Massive has a comment. You guys need bus 00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:43.019 drivers and truck drivers. I want out of this 00:42:43.019 --> 00:42:45.320 hellhole and I'll gladly get Canadian residency 00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.840 or citizenship if I can. You can go to a Canadian 00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:50.380 government website, just Google it, and you can 00:42:50.380 --> 00:42:53.579 find out if you qualify for Canadian permanent 00:42:53.579 --> 00:42:56.920 residency. It's a point system. And so it has 00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:01.619 to do with how much money you have, how many 00:43:01.619 --> 00:43:03.619 degrees you have, how many certificates you have, 00:43:03.619 --> 00:43:07.420 how many languages you speak. It definitely helps 00:43:07.420 --> 00:43:11.059 to speak French also. But there's 00:43:11.059 --> 00:43:14.099 it's actually pretty easy. It's much easier 00:43:14.099 --> 00:43:14.399 and far more direct than our immigration system 00:43:14.399 --> 00:43:15.739 which we talk about here all the time. So 00:43:15.739 --> 00:43:16.039 Phrasmatas, 00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:19.420 what was the topic about the bodyguard trashing 00:43:19.420 --> 00:43:21.280 the lady's artwork? Who is the principal client 00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:24.659 protectee? Kyrsten Sinema. Kyrsten Sinema. 00:43:24.659 --> 00:43:28.099 Yeah, her bodyguard was tossing her artwork into the 00:43:28.099 --> 00:43:31.519 pool. Okay, so, Phrasmatas, question for Ted 00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:31.819 and Jamarl in the chat. There's a new Kenneth 00:43:31.819 --> 00:43:34.440 Branagh movie, that's always of interest to me, 00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:39.320 set in the Soviet Union called Mayday. It was 00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.050 a fun action movie. It takes place in 1988-ish. 00:43:42.050 --> 00:43:43.829 I would watch. I would check that out. And what's 00:43:43.829 --> 00:43:46.190 the name of Ken Branagh? Branagh. He's very acclaimed. 00:43:46.190 --> 00:43:48.829 P.W. Walker, men police other men. Women defend 00:43:48.829 --> 00:43:52.690 and justify bad behavior by other women unless 00:43:52.690 --> 00:43:52.990 they're better looking than them. Then the knives 00:43:52.990 --> 00:43:55.389 come out. I'm not touching that one. No, I'm 00:43:55.389 --> 00:43:57.809 not touching that either. We do have to talk 00:43:57.809 --> 00:44:00.289 about ICE in the time we have left. Evanston, 00:44:00.289 --> 00:44:02.710 Illinois, that's best known for where Northwestern 00:44:02.710 --> 00:44:04.389 University is, Northwestern University. That's 00:44:04.389 --> 00:44:06.610 just south of Chicago. Anyway, ICE was looking 00:44:06.610 --> 00:44:07.909 for a dude outside. You can't make this up outside 00:44:07.909 --> 00:44:09.960 a Mexican restaurant. They saw another dude who 00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:13.199 looks like the guy that they're looking for. 00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:17.119 They go up to him and they say. 00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:19.300 Yo, we're taking 00:44:19.300 --> 00:44:20.960 you in. Let's see some ID. And the guy's like, 00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:24.300 fuck you. I'm an American citizen. Suck my dick. 00:44:24.300 --> 00:44:26.659 Eat shit. And so they get furious and they beat 00:44:26.659 --> 00:44:30.039 the shit out of him. It attracts a crowd. They 00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:34.019 beat him up. They break his teeth. This goes 00:44:34.019 --> 00:44:37.179 on for long enough that there's an angry crowd. 00:44:37.179 --> 00:44:39.280 According to ICE themselves, they were forced 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:44.280 to flee for fear of being attacked by the mob. 00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:44.580 And Evanston PD is called. They show up, and 00:44:44.580 --> 00:44:47.320 you can tell from their press release that they 00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:50.780 are pissed at ICE. The local yokels show up. 00:44:50.780 --> 00:44:52.579 They see this guy on the ground, unable to 00:44:52.579 --> 00:44:57.219 get up. He has to be sent to the hospital. And 00:44:57.219 --> 00:44:58.000 ICE claims, oh, well, we offered him medical 00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:03.239 assistance, but he refused. Witnesses say nothing 00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:05.440 like that happened. And so this was 00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:07.440 another case of a U.S. citizen being detained, 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:07.940 beaten. This is just getting 00:45:07.940 --> 00:45:10.079 crazier every single day. And while 00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:10.420 we're talking about immigration, we should probably 00:45:10.420 --> 00:45:12.139 talk about the Trump looks like he's about to 00:45:12.139 --> 00:45:15.099 roll back the Argentine beef thing. But anyway, 00:45:15.099 --> 00:45:16.699 yeah. Well, how can he can't press charges? I 00:45:16.699 --> 00:45:18.920 remember when I had a conversation with Garland 00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:21.500 about this, it's like outrageous. Because my 00:45:21.500 --> 00:45:23.900 thing was, say for the moment that cops were 00:45:23.900 --> 00:45:26.059 there. And say for the moment ICE agents came 00:45:26.059 --> 00:45:27.920 up and the guy told them, hey, suck my dick. 00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:28.220 I'm an American citizen. Show me somebody. I'm 00:45:28.220 --> 00:45:29.639 not showing you shit. I'm an American citizen. 00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:31.300 I don't have to show you anything. And he's right, 00:45:31.300 --> 00:45:32.900 by the way. And he's right. Can the cops intervene 00:45:32.900 --> 00:45:35.619 to prevent him from being attacked or dragged 00:45:35.619 --> 00:45:35.919 away? And I remember Garland said they're probably 00:45:35.919 --> 00:45:38.320 not going to get involved. Garland used to be 00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:40.639 a chief of a head cop of investigations and everything 00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:42.480 else. That's outrageous. Meaning the fact that 00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:45.400 the police department won't protect you as an 00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:48.320 American citizen from these goons of the Trump 00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:50.500 administration. Because they would say, well, 00:45:50.500 --> 00:45:54.539 this is a federal issue. Yeah, but I'm an American 00:45:54.539 --> 00:45:56.639 citizen. Yeah, I'm sorry. You got to work that 00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:58.860 out. And you're a local citizen of the city of 00:45:58.860 --> 00:46:01.860 Evanston, Illinois. Yeah. Well, whether you're 00:46:01.860 --> 00:46:04.679 a local citizen or not, you're in their jurisdiction, 00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:07.380 right? Yeah. It's amazing. It seems like their 00:46:07.380 --> 00:46:13.519 authority supersedes the law. I mean, we are 00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.780 seeing some jurisdictional disputes of this kind 00:46:16.780 --> 00:46:17.710 around ICE increasingly, right? The Minnesota 00:46:17.710 --> 00:46:20.269 authorities have been working very hard to try 00:46:20.269 --> 00:46:20.569 to hold someone accountable for the killings 00:46:20.569 --> 00:46:22.610 of Alex Pretti and I forget the woman's name 00:46:22.610 --> 00:46:25.650 in Minnesota, who were both killed by ICE earlier 00:46:25.650 --> 00:46:28.010 this year. And they're starting to get somewhere. 00:46:28.010 --> 00:46:31.309 There's increasing examples of local authorities 00:46:31.309 --> 00:46:34.070 and local prosecutors now indicting ICE officers. 00:46:34.070 --> 00:46:38.130 In some cases, ICE sort of lets them be indicted. 00:46:38.130 --> 00:46:41.130 So there's some accountability, but it's really 00:46:41.130 --> 00:46:49.369 frustrating. Look, the thing is, what I can't 00:46:49.369 --> 00:46:51.349 get past is, again, these are unidentified random 00:46:51.349 --> 00:46:55.530 goons. The media shouldn't even say this was 00:46:55.530 --> 00:46:58.789 ICE. They should say purported ICE officers or 00:46:58.789 --> 00:46:59.089 self-identified or alleged or unidentified men 00:46:59.089 --> 00:47:05.110 claiming to be ICE officers. That should be the 00:47:05.110 --> 00:47:08.289 nomenclature in all of these stories, except 00:47:08.289 --> 00:47:08.589 when people are not wearing masks 00:47:08.589 --> 00:47:10.230 and they're presenting lawful IDs 00:47:10.230 --> 00:47:10.530 and displaying their badges. It reminds 00:47:10.530 --> 00:47:13.250 me of back when I used to go to protests in the 00:47:13.250 --> 00:47:13.659 80s and 90s in New York. You always the cops 00:47:13.659 --> 00:47:16.199 had these plastic elastics that they kept 00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:19.820 by their shields. And if they were about to attack 00:47:19.820 --> 00:47:23.099 us and assault us they would cover up their 00:47:23.099 --> 00:47:26.000 badge. You'd see them take the plastic elastic 00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:29.340 and cover up their shield numbers and you'd 00:47:29.340 --> 00:47:32.900 be like oh here we go and I'd be 00:47:32.900 --> 00:47:35.059 looking for the nearest subway. It's 00:47:35.059 --> 00:47:38.280 just like it just should 00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:41.420 be in the constitution that any agent of the 00:47:41.420 --> 00:47:41.720 state whether you're an IRS auditor or a federal 00:47:41.720 --> 00:47:44.280 agent, FBI agent, you should have to present 00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:46.260 ID. Like if you watch videos on YouTube, there's 00:47:46.260 --> 00:47:50.159 tons of examples of alleged FBI agents showing 00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:53.420 up, refusing to present business cards, which 00:47:53.420 --> 00:47:56.139 anyone can print a business card, but refusing 00:47:56.139 --> 00:47:58.199 to show their shields and their ID. And they're 00:47:58.199 --> 00:47:59.820 like, well, we're from the FBI. How do I know 00:47:59.820 --> 00:48:02.219 that? Let me see your ID. Oh, we're not showing 00:48:02.219 --> 00:48:04.320 you that. Even the Gestapo presented 00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:06.739 their ID. That should just be the law. 00:48:06.739 --> 00:48:07.230 Yeah. If you need to cover up your face 00:48:07.230 --> 00:48:11.050 as an agent of the state, you're doing something 00:48:11.050 --> 00:48:11.350 wrong. True. Just as a rule. Otherwise, 00:48:11.350 --> 00:48:13.829 why do you need to do it? Right. Right. I mean, 00:48:13.829 --> 00:48:16.269 they will. I'm sorry. I don't really think they're 00:48:16.269 --> 00:48:18.449 in danger. Yeah. Put it this 00:48:18.449 --> 00:48:21.630 way. If they're hiding their identity, 00:48:21.630 --> 00:48:21.930 riding up in unidentified trucks and snatching 00:48:21.930 --> 00:48:24.570 people. And then it's like, okay, but you're 00:48:24.570 --> 00:48:27.570 in more danger doing that. Right? Like anybody 00:48:27.570 --> 00:48:27.870 in that crowd could have pulled out a gun thinking 00:48:27.870 --> 00:48:32.190 that these people were - And that's going to 00:48:32.190 --> 00:48:32.490 happen. It's absolutely going to happen. Yeah. 00:48:32.490 --> 00:48:35.780 You're beating the living daylights out 00:48:35.780 --> 00:48:38.579 of somebody. Out of an innocent man. Yeah. An 00:48:38.579 --> 00:48:41.260 innocent man, no less. For fun, gratuitously. 00:48:41.260 --> 00:48:44.119 The day after they shot someone. And so it's 00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:47.639 like the crowd, not knowing what is taking place, 00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:50.980 somebody could easily pull out a gun. In Ukraine, 00:48:50.980 --> 00:48:53.480 for example, when you have those press gangs, 00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:54.980 one of the videos had a guy pulling out a gun 00:48:54.980 --> 00:48:56.380 because of the press gang in order to disperse 00:48:56.380 --> 00:48:59.079 them from grabbing somebody. Okay, that could 00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:00.539 happen in the U.S., especially if you don't 00:49:00.539 --> 00:49:03.840 know who the hell the people are. Yeah. I mean, 00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:06.300 it's just outrageous. You're hanging out at a 00:49:06.300 --> 00:49:09.139 Mexican restaurant? How cliche. I know. I know. 00:49:09.139 --> 00:49:10.920 It actually does. I love Mexican food, and it 00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:14.440 really does make me think twice. It makes me 00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:15.880 also feel like, is going to a Mexican restaurant 00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:19.619 a political act now? I know. I know. The ICE 00:49:19.619 --> 00:49:21.820 thing is disturbing. It really is. Until 00:49:21.820 --> 00:49:23.960 there's consequences, it will continue. And there 00:49:23.960 --> 00:49:26.760 won't be. Guys, thanks so much for tuning in. 00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:29.199 We'll be back tomorrow for the full two-hour 00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:31.039 show, 9 to 11 a.m. Eastern time for DeProgram. 00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:36.780 Please stay tuned for TMI with Ted Rall and Manila 00:49:36.780 --> 00:49:39.099 Chan. That's coming up right now. Thank you very 00:49:39.099 --> 00:49:41.280 much, Jamarl. And thank you, Robby. See you soon. 00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:41.580 Have a good one, guys.