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I want you just to look at two verses with me

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today. And we'll be in a couple other places

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that I'll try to make sure you're with me. But

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the two main verses that we're going to focus

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on today are Ephesians chapter four, verses 11

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and 12. Ephesians chapter four, verses 11 and

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12. And he gave some to be apostles, some prophets,

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some evangelists. and some shepherds. How many

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of your Bibles say pastors? We'll talk a little

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bit about that, not really much today, but we'll

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be in this passage or at least referring to it

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for about the next six weeks. So we'll talk a

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little bit more about that. Shepherds is a little

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bit of a better translation, but some of the

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Bibles do translate that as pastors. He gave

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some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some

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to be evangelists, some to be shepherds and teachers

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for the equipping of the saints. So let's break

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that down a little bit and keep your Bible open

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there with you just for a second. The first thing

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I want you to notice there is how many of your

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Bibles, the translation that you're looking at,

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start with the word and. There's a conjunction

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there at the very first part of that verse. And

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he gave some. How do you have a conjunction there?

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Something like that. How many of you are alive?

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Let's start with that. So so still a conjunction.

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Yes, so there's some kind of a conjunction there

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so or and or something like that Do you have

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something like that? Okay, you guys were making

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me nervous there for a second some kind of conjunction

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the one that I'm reading from says and and Whether

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it's and or so it's a conjunction and you already

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know this, right? So anytime there's a conjunction

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It's taking something it's introducing a new

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thought after a thoughts already been introduced,

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right? We are we understand that So like if Danita

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sends me to the store and she says to me, hey,

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Phil, I want you to go to the store. I want you

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to get milk and coffee and cookies. Specifically,

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there would be Oreo cookies, right? So Danita

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loves Oreo cookies. So milk and coffee and Oreo

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cookies. It's taking something that we already

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know and adding to that list. You already know

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this. So here in Ephesians chapter four, the

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and is linking apostles, prophets, evangelists,

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shepherds, and teachers to something. And here

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specifically is referring back to verse seven.

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Verse seven says this, teach one grace has been

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given. The and that we're looking at is connecting

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this new thought of these leadership roles of

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apostles, prophets, evangelists, shepherds, teachers.

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back to verse seven which says that to all of

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us grace has been given. So there's an important

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thought even in that simple word. So it's connecting

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this new idea of leadership roles of apostles,

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prophets, evangelists, shepherds, teachers, back

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to the fact that it's about grace. That the reason

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we have these gifts is because of grace. So these

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are not status symbols, they're not just titles,

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but they're gracious appointments by Christ for

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the purpose of building up the body of Christ.

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So the reason that there are apostles, prophets,

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evangelists, shepherds, and teachers in the church

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and in the world is because of what? Because

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of grace. So the outcome of that is that the

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body should be built up. But the reason that

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we have those in the church and in the world

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is because of grace. So it's safe to say that

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apostles, prophets, evangelists, shepherds, and

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teachers are a means of grace. That the reason

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those have been given to the church and to the

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world is so that they would be a means of grace

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in the world. So what that tells us is that prophecy

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done well is a means of grace. That shepherding

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done well is a means of grace. That teaching

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done well is a means of grace. That evangelism

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done well is a means of grace. So if that's true,

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then why do we allow those who serve in these

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leadership capacities to use and abuse the same

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people who should be the recipients of grace?

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So let's take a quick survey here. Of all of

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those things, apostles, prophets, evangelists,

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shepherds, teachers, how many of you have ever

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realized that it wasn't, you didn't receive it

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in a way that was gracious. So let me give you

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some examples. Have you ever heard somebody who's

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trying to tell somebody about Jesus and they

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sound really angry about it? Have you ever heard

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these kind of approaches to evangelism? Like

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the entire turn or burn, right? So I'm telling

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you right now, you either listen to what I'm

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gonna tell you or you're gonna burn forever in

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a lake of fire. Now there's truth to that, right?

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We understand that. But is that gracious? No,

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that's not gracious. Have you ever heard somebody

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preaching a sermon? Hopefully it's not me, but

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have you ever heard somebody who's preaching

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a sermon and you're like this dude is ticked

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off? He's he's really mad at us and he's really

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mad at God And I think he doesn't even like himself

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because this guy is ticked off How many of you

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have ever had something like that? So is that

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gracious? You're like, you know what? I'm excited

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the recipient of grace today because this guy's

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ticked off, right? No Have you ever heard teaching

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that was less than gracious? So in all of those

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things the reason they've been given to the church

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and given to the world is to be a means of grace

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and unfortunately sometimes they get weaponized.

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But I think it's foundational for us to remember

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that the reason that those leadership roles exist

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is to be gracious to the church and to the world.

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So, that's the and. The second thing I want you

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to notice there is and. It's a conjunction. It's

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tying what we're about to learn about leadership

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roles back to grace. Here's the next part, and

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he gave. Now, that phrase, he gave, is in the

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aorist active form. Everyone say ooh -ah. That

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was pretty good. That was pretty good. That felt

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good hearing you say that. Everyone say ooh -ah.

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That's just fantastic. So, the aorist active

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verb, in scripture, it points to a completed

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act with lasting effect. So anytime you find

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an aorist active verb, it's something that has

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been done, but once it's done, it's gonna continue

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to have ripple effects forever. It will never

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stop having a ripple effect. These are the things

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for which there is no undo button. So I don't

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know about you, but I like the undo button on

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my computer. I use it all the time. Because I'll

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realize that I did something wrong I know this

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will shock many of you But I did something wrong

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and I want to click the undo button and I know

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what it looks like on Apple I know what it looks

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like on IBM stuff I know what the undo button

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looks like and I'm a big fan of the undo button

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But what this is saying is that this is the kind

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of thing that once it's done. It's done There's

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no undoing it It will be like that forever There's

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it's once it's done. There's no going back So,

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there's a powerful expression of this in Romans

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chapter 11 verse 29. This is so good. So, this

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is Roman. You can't turn over there. You don't

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have to. It's Romans chapter 11 verse 29. It

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says, for the gifts, that's what we're talking

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about, right? So, Ephesians chapter 4 verse 7

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says, and he gave gifts. And then it goes on

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and it's talking about that he gave some gifts

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that are apostles, prophets, evangelists, shepherds,

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and teachers. If you're with me, go like this.

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So we're talking about the gifts, right? So Romans

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11 says, the gifts and the calling of God are

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irrevocable. Heiress active verb. Once it's done,

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there's no going back. There's no undo button

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whatsoever. Once it happens, it's that way forever.

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So, it's referring back to verse 7 and 8. So,

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verse 7, to each one grace has been given, and

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then in verse 8, he's given these gifts. These

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roles are not man appointed, they're not self

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-selected, nobody can get up tomorrow morning

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and say, you know what, I am an apostle. It doesn't

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work like that. God has to call us to that. He's

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the one who gives these gifts. So, here's the

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point that I want you to see. The gifts and the

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calling of God are not like Amazon Prime. So

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you can't take the stuff off the Amazon Prime

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truck and say you know what it doesn't it doesn't

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look good with my eye color It was it's the color

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in the description is not quite what I'm looking

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for It's not that I'm getting any bigger the

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size of the shirt is off. I'm sure that's what

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it is So I don't like this shirt anymore, and

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I'm gonna take it back to Kohl's It's my place

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that I like to return stuff to Amazon because

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they give me Kohl's cash So I don't like this

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thing. I'm gonna take it to Kohl's I walk in

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there and I give it to them and they give me

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five dollars in Kohl's cash Hoping that I'll

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come back to the store. Here's the point of Act

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it heiress active. It's not like that at all

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Once he's been done that it gets stamped into

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our spiritual DNA forever So and he gave some

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to be here's the point that I want you to see

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in that Not everybody's an evangelist Not everybody's

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a shepherd. Not everybody's a teacher. Not everybody's

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an apostle. Now there are some things that we

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do know. Like not everyone's an evangelist. That's

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true. But everyone can and should evangelize.

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Everyone should and can evangelize. What do I

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mean? Everyone should tell people the good news

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about Jesus. Do you know how incredibly selfish

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it is if you know the good news about Jesus and

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you don't tell anybody about the good news about

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Jesus? I mean, it's pretty terrible. So everyone

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can and should tell people about Jesus Paul says

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that everyone can and should prophesy, right?

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First Corinthians talks about this that everyone

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can and should prophesy, but not everyone's a

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prophet So there's this guy that I doubt any

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of you have ever met his name was Mike It really

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was his name. I'm not changing it for any reason

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I have no reason to change it but Mike was one

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of the most gifted shepherds I've ever known

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and yet Like a lot of times when we think about

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shepherds, we automatically make the connection

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that some of your Bibles have made and we think

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about shepherds in the role of being a pastor.

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So like when I talk about Mike was one of the

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best shepherds I've ever known. Like how many

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of you heard that and you immediately thought

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that I was talking about a pastor? Because that's

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kind of the stereotype that we have. If you're

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a shepherd, you're a pastor. And Mike wasn't

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a pastor. In fact, Mike was the district ODOT

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director. Delaware if you're if you're familiar

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at all with Delaware as you're going into Delaware

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from Sunbury on 36 and 37 you go in and 36 go

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straight 37 beers off right before that happens

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there's the district ODOT garage there he was

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an ODOT director there one of the most gracious

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shepherding people I've ever known in my life

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and so Mike's not a pastor he's never been in

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that role but he was fantastic at caring for

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people and like he could teach a master's level

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course to pastors on how to take care of people.

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So Mike was known, like he would do these kind

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of things. So when the guys who are operating

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the plows in the middle of the winter, when they'd

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had an incredibly long night, you know what Mike

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would do? He wouldn't sleep. And he would go

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track down his plows and jump up on the side

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of the plow and just say, hey, how you doing?

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Are you doing okay? Do you need anything? Can

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I run and buy you a cup of coffee? Are you doing

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all right? And sometimes he'd say, hey, I'm going

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to jump in the truck with you. And they'd be

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like, hey, I don't like this. The director's

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in the truck with me. And he'd be like, no, listen,

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I'm not here for that. I'm not here to judge

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how you're doing. I just want to make sure you're

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OK. And just one of the best shepherds I've ever

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worked with. And he cared for people in a way

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that I have found to be very rare. And he just

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was like, nothing I'd ever seen before. So what

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am I getting at with all of that? We need to

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be aware of false consensus effect. It's a cognitive

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bias where people overestimate the extent to

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which their beliefs, values, habits, and behaviors

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are normal and typical of others. In other words,

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we tend to assume that others think and act exactly

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like we do. Does that make sense? We talked about

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this over the weekend at our house. So I don't

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know if you know this but these two beautiful

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ladies it's their birthday today So we've been

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celebrating because like when you this is a big

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birthday. I won't tell you which one it is It

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could be 25. You don't know any better. It's

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25. Don't they look good for 25? So they look

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good for 25 I don't know how we have a child

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that's close to that same age, but hey, we don't

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need to talk about that. 25 it is. 25 is a good

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number. And we were talking about this over the

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weekend, so everybody's in. And we all do this

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to some extent, right? So how many of you, like

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you just thought that whatever your family dynamic

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was, that that's what it was like in every other

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household that your friends were a part of. And

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at some point you realize, no, it's really not

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like that. And maybe it's better for me, or maybe

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it's not better for me. But we start to realize

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that it's not quite like that. But at least to

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some extent, we all have this idea that whatever's

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normal to me is normal to everybody. And here's

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where we get in trouble with that. And here's

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where it got me in trouble. So one of the things,

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like if I took the test that I asked you guys

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to take this week, one of the things that I would

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score extremely high on, because I have a few.

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And I score very poorly in a few of them too.

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Which is the way it's supposed to be, by the

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way, right? So sometimes we look at that, and

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we're like, man, I wish I would be able to score

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higher at this. Hey, listen, God wired you that

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way on purpose. He knows what he's doing. It's

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not a mistake. It's OK. That's the way that he

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wanted you to be. So I would score very high

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on any test that I was given about being a shepherd.

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And we'll talk more about that when we talk about

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shepherding. And one that I also score very highly

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in is the prophet role. And I kind of, here's

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the way that I best explain that, and we'll talk

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more about this when we get to these two. When

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the pressure's on, I kind of gravitate more to

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the shepherd side. So when things are tough,

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that's the part that kind of shines through,

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is I become more of a shepherd. And it becomes

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more important to me to take care of people.

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When I'm resting and things are good, that's

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where I tend to be more in the prophetic. Does

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that make sense? But when things are tough, I

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kind of default to being a shepherd. And then

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like right under that is, and it kind of depends

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on the role that I'm in, the one that's just

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below that is apostle, and like what I do with

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public safety, that's 100 % the role that I'm

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in. So like with the highway patrol, with local

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law enforcement and fire, that's kind of the

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role that I'm in, and we'll talk more about that

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when we get there. But so I'm a shepherd. But

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here's where it gets me in trouble. Because I'm

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a shepherd, my natural tendency is to assume

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that everyone in a role that's similar to mine

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is a shepherd. And when they don't respond like

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a shepherd should, because I know how a shepherd

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should respond, because I am one. So I know what

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the response of a shepherd should look like.

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So when people who are in roles like mine, they

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don't respond like a shepherd, at best, I walk

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away feeling disappointed. But if I'm going to

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be completely honest, there are times when people

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who are enrolled similar to mine and they don't

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behave like a shepherd, I'm not just disappointed,

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I'm disgusted. Because sometimes I look at it

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and I'll say, how can you be so blind as to not

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care for the people who have been entrusted to

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you? And how dare you treat them like cattle?

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You can't begin to understand how liberating

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it was for me. This was a recent development

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when I recently realized that not everyone's

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like me. And the reason that God put me in that

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situation is not so that I could look at them

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and say, you know what, I can't believe that

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they would do it that way. But the reason I'm

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in the situation is because I am a shepherd.

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So when I see those things, I just need to provide

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care. Get over the fact that they're not doing

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it. But if I'm aware of it, I can provide that

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care. Does that make sense? So I just assume

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that everyone's a shepherd. And man, it was liberating

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when I realized that not everyone's like me.

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And that's OK. I don't have the luxury of being

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a shepherd when I'm at the church. And here's

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what I mean by that. So once I come to grips

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with my gifting and calling, it's irrevocable.

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It cannot be stopped. It's not like it's something

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that's a switch that I can turn on and off. So

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here's what that looks like So yes when we're

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here and things are good. I tend to be more of

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a prophet It's just the way that God's wired

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me. I don't make excuses for it. I don't apologize

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for it That's the way that God wired me when

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things are tough. I tend to be more of a shepherd

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So let me ask you a question. Which one am I

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right now? If I had to toss up between the prophet

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and things are really good and when things get

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tough, I tend to be more of a shepherd. Which

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one am I right now? I'm a shepherd. In fact,

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if I were to take the test right now, like you

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wouldn't see the tension between shepherd and

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prophet right now. You would see that, hey, this

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guy's a pretty strong prophet. I mean, a pretty

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strong shepherd. That's because things are a

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little challenging right now, and that's fine.

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Eventually realized that and here's the way that

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that looks so I don't get to shut that off So

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when I go to the bus yard, you know the way that

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the Lord wires me I'm still a shepherd So it's

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a common thing when I'm out driving school bus

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I'm telling you it happens like all the time

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like multiple times every single week people

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will come up to me out of the blue and they'll

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say things like Hey Phil, would you pray with

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me? Like not in your prayers, but would you pray

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with me right now about this particular thing

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that's going on? Why is that? Because I'm a shepherd

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And I don't have to find people people come find

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me Because they understand that hey if you go

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talk to Phil about that he's gonna care he's

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gonna show up he's gonna do those things it's

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because the way the Lord's wired me so at home

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and you can ask the need afterwards if you want

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you can ask her So what I want you to know is

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that when I'm here, what you see is pretty much

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what you get at home, right? So the way that

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you experience interaction with me, that's pretty

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much what Danita gets. And Danita would tell

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you that at home, I'm pretty much a shepherd,

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except for when things are really good and I

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tend to be more of a prophet at things. I'm not

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as much of an apostle at home because that's

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more of like Danita's lane. And so anyways, we

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don't need to get into all that. We will talk

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about that at some point. So it's not something

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we can turn on or off. When I'm in ministry,

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I'm kind of a hybrid between shepherd and prophet

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in my roles with public safety. I'm definitely

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kind of a shepherd apostle, but shepherd's always

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right there in the top of the list. So we need

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all the fivefold in the church to function well,

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right? So here's the reason that Christ has given

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these gracious gifts. And this is back to Ephesians

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chapter four, verse 12, for the equipping of

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the saints. So it's a fascinating word that's

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used there. You know that I'm a biblical language

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nerd. The word that's used there is catturismo.

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Catturismo, say that. Catturismo. And that word

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that's used there means to make fully ready to

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repair or to restore to proper function. And

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it's used throughout the New Testament, but here

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are a couple places that I think are super fascinating

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to me. So this word is used in Matthew chapter

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four, verse 21. We'll look at it in just a second,

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but in Matthew chapter four, it's used to mend

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nets. And I'll actually read the passage to you

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in a second. You don't need to turn there, but

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it's used to mend nets, to return them to their

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proper function, to repair them, to make them

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fully ready. Well, why nets? Well, because nets

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catch what otherwise would be lost. Now think

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about that in the context of Apostles prophets,

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evangelists, shepherds, teachers. So why do we

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use words like mend? Because if we don't get

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this right, we're going to miss things that they're

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going to be lost forever. So you understand what's

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riding on this. So we're talking about the people

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your loved ones your friends who do not know

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the Lord if we get this right And we get the

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net mended correctly. It's able to catch that

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which otherwise would be lost And if we don't

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get it right The lost are still lost You see

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the connection So here's what it says in Matthew

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chapter 4 verse 21 and going from there. He saw

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two brothers. He's talking about Jesus He sees

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two brothers, James, the son of Zebedee, and

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John, his brother, in the boat with Zebedee,

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their father, mending their nets. There's the

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word, mending their nets. And he called them.

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It's also used throughout the New Testament,

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it's mending nets, that's true, but also for

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restoring a broken bone. So many, many years

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ago, Kalen was just a tiny, tiny little thing.

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She was about two years old. I was actually working

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with my in -laws who are in town because these

00:23:02.289 --> 00:23:04.349
lovely ladies are having their 25th birthday

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and I was working with them. We were working

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on this barn in the middle of nowhere and I was

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putting sheeting on the top of this barn and

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I have the nail gun in my hand and So I mean

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we have to get these sheets all the way up on

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top of this ladder and it's the very last sheet

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up on the very top of the barn and we have to

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get the sheet in the kind of the middle of the

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ladder so you get everything squared up well

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by the time you get it where it needs to go it's

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not really in a great spot to get all the nails

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in. So I needed to get one last nail on the very

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top far side of that board. I'm right -handed.

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So this left nail way up there on the very top

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of the barn is the last one that I need to get

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to. And I can't quite get there because I'm on

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the ladder and if I get out there too far, I'll

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lose my balance and fall off the ladder. So I'm

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a little bit stubborn. I don't know if you knew

00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:55.099
that, but I have a little bit of a stubborn streak,

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a determined streak. It's a determination streak

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is what it is. So my father -in -law said, hey

00:24:01.690 --> 00:24:04.210
Phil, just wait a second. Don't do anything stupid.

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Because how 40 feet up in the air, something

00:24:07.170 --> 00:24:10.250
like that? 45 feet, something like that. We were

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up there pretty far. So I'm like, he's like,

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just wait a minute. Don't do anything stupid.

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I'll come up through the inside of the barn and

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I'll get that last nail. I'm like, that's ridiculous.

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It's going to take you 10 minutes to climb up

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through the entire barn. That's insane. I'm just

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going to get it. So he's telling me, wait, don't

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do anything. I'll come up and get it. And I'm

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determined. Some people would call it stubborn.

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So I laid out across the barn. And I'm like,

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I can do this. He'll be happy if I do this. He

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doesn't have to climb up to the barn. So I'm

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laying out on the barn. I've got my feet on the

00:24:42.170 --> 00:24:45.130
ladder. I've got the gun. And I'm like, OK, here

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we go. So I'm stretched out. I've got this hand

00:24:47.789 --> 00:24:49.950
at reach out as far as I can on the board. I've

00:24:49.950 --> 00:24:51.490
got the nail gun in this hand. I'm like, here

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we go. And I reach up and bang! And I'm like,

00:24:55.470 --> 00:24:58.950
yes, except for now the gun recoils and comes

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down on my hand, my middle finger, and put a

00:25:03.450 --> 00:25:06.970
ring shank nail through my middle finger. So

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I'm like, well, that's not quite what I was hoping

00:25:09.450 --> 00:25:14.289
for. So I pretty calmly said, I just shot myself

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with a nail gun. Now this might be a shock to

00:25:16.730 --> 00:25:19.710
you, but I'm a little bit of a jokester too.

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So they thought that I was just being funny.

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And so he's making his way up through the barn

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and he gets up there and he's like, he did, he

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shot himself with a nail gun. He's got a nail

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in his hand. So I'm like, it's okay. So I came

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down off the ladder and I'm like, I'm just gonna

00:25:36.470 --> 00:25:39.670
bandage it up. It'll be fine. And I'll go have

00:25:39.670 --> 00:25:42.230
the doctor look at it later. So the plan was

00:25:42.230 --> 00:25:44.269
they're gonna get off these shears and cut the

00:25:44.269 --> 00:25:47.410
glove off my hand. And that was a good plan until

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they bumped the nail with the shears. and just

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shot pain all the way through my arm into my

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neck and into my head. I did not know that you

00:25:56.140 --> 00:25:59.059
could feel the bone in your finger in your head,

00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:02.240
but I'm like, yeah, let's not do that. So long

00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:05.420
story short, I was originally just going to drive

00:26:05.420 --> 00:26:09.099
myself to the ER, and we asked the owner of the

00:26:09.099 --> 00:26:11.519
barn, hey, where's the nearest ER? He said, it's

00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:13.480
40 minutes if you know where you're going. I'm

00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:15.680
like, that's fantastic. And being that I don't,

00:26:15.700 --> 00:26:17.880
this is probably not a good option. So they call

00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:20.910
an ambulance. So the ambulance comes out, it's

00:26:20.910 --> 00:26:23.349
like, I'm like, this is amazing. I knew that

00:26:23.349 --> 00:26:25.670
a day like this would come. I've waited for this

00:26:25.670 --> 00:26:29.009
moment to come. So they get there, and I'm making

00:26:29.009 --> 00:26:30.930
jokes about the entire thing, and I said, I'm

00:26:30.930 --> 00:26:34.369
so glad that I put on clean underwear. I'm just

00:26:34.369 --> 00:26:36.529
so glad. I mean, it's really the thing that matters

00:26:36.529 --> 00:26:38.309
to me, because when they cut all my clothes off

00:26:38.309 --> 00:26:40.089
of me, I'm glad that I have clean underwear on.

00:26:40.170 --> 00:26:43.130
You know, I'm so glad my grandmother got it right.

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I really am glad I have clean underwear on. They

00:26:45.509 --> 00:26:47.150
didn't cut my clothes off, in case you're wondering.

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So the medics get there, and they see the barn

00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:53.339
and the ladder and the entire thing, and I'm

00:26:53.339 --> 00:26:55.599
just going to have some fun with them. So they

00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:59.240
say, ask all the normal questions. Do you know

00:26:59.240 --> 00:27:02.480
where you are? What's your name? So I said immediately,

00:27:02.660 --> 00:27:04.460
I said, I'm 53 years old. I'm the president of

00:27:04.460 --> 00:27:07.920
the United States. And they look and they say,

00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:09.619
did he fall off the ladder? I'm like, I'm just

00:27:09.619 --> 00:27:12.279
making all that up. They load me in the ambulance.

00:27:12.299 --> 00:27:15.200
We get to the emergency room. They think that

00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:16.980
I'm going to have to have surgery. So they're

00:27:16.980 --> 00:27:19.140
starting to prep the entire thing for surgery.

00:27:19.579 --> 00:27:24.099
They give me a pain block for my hand. And that's

00:27:24.099 --> 00:27:25.980
pretty amazing. I'm pretty happy with that. And

00:27:25.980 --> 00:27:27.500
they're doing all the stuff they need to do to

00:27:27.500 --> 00:27:29.920
get me ready to go to surgery. Contacts have

00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:33.900
to come out the entire deal. Getting ready to

00:27:33.900 --> 00:27:36.019
do all that and two deputies come walking in

00:27:36.019 --> 00:27:38.799
and I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. So

00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:42.680
they walk in and they said, hey, we need to ask

00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:44.259
you a couple of questions. I'm like, you've got

00:27:44.259 --> 00:27:45.940
to be kidding me. You're just making this worse.

00:27:45.940 --> 00:27:47.460
You're adding insult to injury. And they're like,

00:27:47.619 --> 00:27:51.660
it's technically a gun wound. So we need to question

00:27:51.660 --> 00:27:53.599
you about that. I'm like, you've got to be kidding

00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:56.599
me. So I'm like, you guys are just absolutely

00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.059
making it worse. So they make everybody leave

00:27:59.059 --> 00:28:02.099
and they're like, OK, so You shot yourself with

00:28:02.099 --> 00:28:05.500
the nail gun for the hundredth time. Yes, I shot

00:28:05.500 --> 00:28:08.559
myself with the nail gun. Did anyone tell you

00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:11.119
to say that? Would you stop it? You're making

00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:14.440
it worse. No one told me to say that. Did anyone

00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:16.900
pay you to say that you shot yourself? Listen,

00:28:16.940 --> 00:28:20.299
how can I explain this to you? I shot myself

00:28:20.299 --> 00:28:23.140
with a nail gun. No one else was a part of it.

00:28:23.220 --> 00:28:27.279
No one else paid me anything. I shot myself with

00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.079
the nail gun. Are you happy? He's like, yes.

00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.799
I just had to ask, well, for pity's sake, stop

00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.420
asking. I shot myself. And now I just feel like,

00:28:37.539 --> 00:28:39.799
not only am I at cluts, but I'm just like, man,

00:28:39.819 --> 00:28:42.440
this is embarrassing. So they go through the

00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:45.480
entire thing, and the surgeon says, he's like,

00:28:45.539 --> 00:28:47.200
well, let's just hold off. I think we might be

00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.420
able to pull the nail out, and I won't get too

00:28:49.420 --> 00:28:51.180
graphic, but he's like, I think we can just pull

00:28:51.180 --> 00:28:54.319
it out without surgery. So, I mean, hours have

00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:57.960
gone by. So he comes in, and he's like, yeah,

00:28:58.059 --> 00:29:00.049
we're just gonna... but we're just gonna pull

00:29:00.049 --> 00:29:03.089
that nail out the way that it went in. So I'm

00:29:03.089 --> 00:29:05.509
like, hey doc, I know you're a doctor and I don't

00:29:05.509 --> 00:29:07.950
play one on TV, I'm not a doctor, but do you

00:29:07.950 --> 00:29:10.869
understand ring shank nails at all? And he's

00:29:10.869 --> 00:29:12.549
like, well yeah. I'm like, I don't think you

00:29:12.549 --> 00:29:14.750
do. It's like, there's rings on that that are

00:29:14.750 --> 00:29:16.869
made so that it won't pull back out the way that

00:29:16.869 --> 00:29:19.069
it went in. He's like, yeah, yeah, I can see

00:29:19.069 --> 00:29:20.670
that on the x -ray. I'm like, I don't think you

00:29:20.670 --> 00:29:22.950
get it pal. He's like, I said, why don't you

00:29:22.950 --> 00:29:25.029
just cut the nail off and pull it the rest of

00:29:25.029 --> 00:29:27.109
the way through the hand. He's like, no, no,

00:29:27.109 --> 00:29:28.890
no, I want to pull it out the way that it went

00:29:28.890 --> 00:29:32.630
back in. And I'm like, man, you're crazy. So

00:29:32.630 --> 00:29:34.950
he literally, he calls the guy from the maintenance

00:29:34.950 --> 00:29:37.609
department and he's got a pair of pliers on his

00:29:37.609 --> 00:29:39.789
tool belt. And he's like, those will do just

00:29:39.789 --> 00:29:42.450
fine. I'm not making this up. They're not surgical

00:29:42.450 --> 00:29:44.809
at all. So I don't know what he was just doing

00:29:44.809 --> 00:29:47.349
with it, but he grabs these pliers off this guy's

00:29:47.349 --> 00:29:50.319
tool belt. And he's like, okay, he has like a

00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:52.660
nurse hold my arm down. He has another nurse

00:29:52.660 --> 00:29:55.859
lay on my chest and he grabs the nail with the

00:29:55.859 --> 00:29:59.160
pliers and he pulls the nail back out of my finger.

00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:05.640
And it's extremely painful. So I'm like, whew,

00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:09.420
I'm not doing so good. I'm white. And he's like,

00:30:09.740 --> 00:30:12.799
listen, that's psychosomatic. That's just your

00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:14.559
brain telling you that it's supposed to hurt.

00:30:14.990 --> 00:30:17.609
And I'm like, dude, I'm going to hit you. I'm

00:30:17.609 --> 00:30:19.630
going to hit you right now. And he's like, you

00:30:19.630 --> 00:30:21.970
had a pain block, right? I'm like, yeah, when

00:30:21.970 --> 00:30:26.150
I came in. First thing in the ER, they gave me

00:30:26.150 --> 00:30:29.910
a pain block. And then he's like, oh, you did

00:30:29.910 --> 00:30:32.789
feel that then. I tried to tell you that. I felt

00:30:32.789 --> 00:30:35.630
every bit of it. And they bandaged my hand all

00:30:35.630 --> 00:30:37.789
up. And it hurt like crazy. It's probably the

00:30:37.789 --> 00:30:40.210
worst pain I've ever been in my life. In fact,

00:30:40.269 --> 00:30:42.910
it was so bad when Danita went to get Kalen from

00:30:42.910 --> 00:30:45.660
the the daycare place where she was hanging out

00:30:45.660 --> 00:30:48.960
until we all got back. I called Danita and I

00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:51.920
said, babe, I'm in horrible pain. I can't even

00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:54.599
think. So they figured out something to get the

00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:56.619
pain under control. And it pretty much hurt like

00:30:56.619 --> 00:30:58.920
that. I think it was 10 days later, I had a follow

00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:01.940
up, go back and see the surgeon who pulled the

00:31:01.940 --> 00:31:04.059
nail out of my finger. And then I was able to

00:31:04.059 --> 00:31:08.819
punch him. I didn't punch him. Yeah. So I go

00:31:08.819 --> 00:31:11.039
back to see him, and he re -bandaged my hand.

00:31:11.180 --> 00:31:13.680
He gave me another script for more pain meds.

00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.619
And it was the craziest thing, because when he

00:31:16.619 --> 00:31:19.420
got it re -bandaged, I never needed the pain

00:31:19.420 --> 00:31:22.099
meds again. Because I don't know if it was just

00:31:22.099 --> 00:31:23.819
pressure, or if it was just in a funny spot.

00:31:23.859 --> 00:31:25.980
I don't know what it was. But he got the bandage

00:31:25.980 --> 00:31:28.799
off, re -bandaged it, and I'm like, no, I'm really

00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:30.619
good. Now, here's the point with all of that.

00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.940
I needed every last single one of those people

00:31:34.940 --> 00:31:38.730
along the way. So who was the most important

00:31:38.730 --> 00:31:43.069
to me on that day? I couldn't begin to tell you

00:31:43.069 --> 00:31:46.430
So you do you mean to tell me that on that day

00:31:46.430 --> 00:31:49.430
that the role that my mother -in -law played

00:31:49.430 --> 00:31:51.730
Even though I didn't necessarily wasn't very

00:31:51.730 --> 00:31:53.569
happy about it. She's like, you know, you need

00:31:53.569 --> 00:31:56.019
to lay down. I'm like, no, I'm fine So they called

00:31:56.019 --> 00:31:58.059
Donita in the midst of all that, and Donita's

00:31:58.059 --> 00:32:01.119
response was, she's like, don't you die! I'm

00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:04.339
like, babe, calm down, okay? I shot myself in

00:32:04.339 --> 00:32:08.059
the hand with a nail gun. I promise I'm not going

00:32:08.059 --> 00:32:12.220
to die. I promise I'm not gonna die. So I'm good.

00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:15.480
So was that role most important, or was it the

00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:17.700
doctor's role, or was it the people on the emergency

00:32:17.700 --> 00:32:20.240
squad, or was it the people in the ER? Who was

00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:23.619
the most important to me? I can't begin to tell

00:32:23.619 --> 00:32:27.490
you. because every last person was important,

00:32:27.569 --> 00:32:30.109
every last person had a different role to do,

00:32:30.410 --> 00:32:32.710
and every last person was doing that to mend

00:32:32.710 --> 00:32:36.789
a broken bone. Every last person did what they

00:32:36.789 --> 00:32:40.490
did, and I was depending on them to do what they

00:32:40.490 --> 00:32:46.269
did for me to be mended up so I could fulfill

00:32:46.269 --> 00:32:49.190
the purpose that I was supposed to have. That's

00:32:49.190 --> 00:32:52.539
this word. That's the word that's used there.

00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:54.579
It's a picture of how we should be interacting

00:32:54.579 --> 00:32:57.539
with a hurting and broken world. People are hurting

00:32:57.539 --> 00:33:01.440
and broken. Yes, I understand sometimes it's

00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:06.980
self -inflicted, like mine was. But just because

00:33:06.980 --> 00:33:10.460
somebody's pain and brokenness is self -inflicted,

00:33:10.660 --> 00:33:15.509
they still need and deserve grace. Amen. God

00:33:15.509 --> 00:33:18.109
in his love and his mercy has put a system in

00:33:18.109 --> 00:33:20.690
place for us to mend what's broken and for them

00:33:20.690 --> 00:33:23.109
to be restored to right relationship with God

00:33:23.109 --> 00:33:25.789
For them to fulfill their God -given purpose

00:33:25.789 --> 00:33:29.410
and destiny and I can't begin to do that by myself

00:33:29.410 --> 00:33:32.910
I need all the fivefold the fivefold parts of

00:33:32.910 --> 00:33:35.569
the hand to be the hands and feet of Jesus to

00:33:35.569 --> 00:33:39.470
mend what's broken so I'm gonna go ahead and

00:33:39.470 --> 00:33:42.109
risk being misunderstood here. So if you're wondering

00:33:42.109 --> 00:33:44.210
like, when is he gonna get himself in hot water,

00:33:44.250 --> 00:33:46.069
this is probably the moment that I can get myself

00:33:46.069 --> 00:33:50.049
in some hot water. So this year, the Church of

00:33:50.049 --> 00:33:52.690
Nazarene in USA and Canada, and does anybody

00:33:52.690 --> 00:33:55.450
know what we're focusing on? Like they have a

00:33:55.450 --> 00:33:57.509
focus every year now. Does anyone know what we're

00:33:57.509 --> 00:34:00.710
focusing on? What is it? Bringing others to Jesus,

00:34:00.789 --> 00:34:03.730
very good. So bringing others to Jesus. And I

00:34:03.730 --> 00:34:06.069
think that I can speak for everyone and say that

00:34:06.069 --> 00:34:10.389
we can all get behind that. Right? Like, is there

00:34:10.389 --> 00:34:12.929
anybody here who's like, I absolutely, I'm not

00:34:12.929 --> 00:34:14.630
sure I wanna be Nazarene now. If that's what

00:34:14.630 --> 00:34:16.409
we're gonna focus on this year, I'm out. Anybody,

00:34:16.889 --> 00:34:19.750
like, we can get behind that, right? That hurting,

00:34:19.849 --> 00:34:21.630
broken people would be brought to Jesus. We can

00:34:21.630 --> 00:34:23.650
get behind that. That's a great thing. There's

00:34:23.650 --> 00:34:25.230
nothing wrong with that. So how are we gonna

00:34:25.230 --> 00:34:29.269
go about doing that? It's a great question. So

00:34:29.269 --> 00:34:32.650
I think what we typically would do is this. We

00:34:32.650 --> 00:34:34.349
would say that what we need to do is to train

00:34:34.349 --> 00:34:38.000
everyone to be an evangelist, right? So we need

00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.679
to talk about how we can share people with people

00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:42.780
about Jesus and the good news and don't get me

00:34:42.780 --> 00:34:45.719
wrong We'll do that when we talk about evangelism

00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:47.639
and evangelists. We'll talk about that but hear

00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:51.440
me I'm not opposed to evangelism training I'm

00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:54.760
not opposed to it in any way I believe that every

00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:57.000
believer should be able to help someone begin

00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:59.440
a relationship with Jesus and I'm just gonna

00:34:59.440 --> 00:35:01.760
take away all the stuff Here's here's what it

00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:05.750
is. Do you know how simple it is? It's one beggar

00:35:05.750 --> 00:35:10.010
telling another beggar where to find bread. That's

00:35:10.010 --> 00:35:14.250
all evangelism is. You just tell somebody who's

00:35:14.250 --> 00:35:16.829
looking for the hope and significance in life

00:35:16.829 --> 00:35:19.590
that you have, this is what Jesus did for me.

00:35:19.750 --> 00:35:21.409
If he did it for me, he'll do it for you. I mean,

00:35:21.409 --> 00:35:23.550
I'm not special. If he did it for me, he'll do

00:35:23.550 --> 00:35:26.610
it for you. That's all evangelism is. And we

00:35:26.610 --> 00:35:28.070
will provide some opportunities for training.

00:35:28.130 --> 00:35:31.489
I am not opposed to that. In fact, I'm certified

00:35:31.489 --> 00:35:35.440
in three different evangelists evangelism techniques.

00:35:35.820 --> 00:35:38.480
I'm certified in it. I'm certified as a trainer

00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:41.960
in two of those. So I could actually, with full

00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:44.719
endorsement from them, I could train you in these

00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.920
evangelistic approaches. I'm not opposed to evangelism

00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:53.619
training. But here's the problem. Not everyone's

00:35:53.619 --> 00:36:00.179
an evangelist. He gave some to be evangelists.

00:36:04.579 --> 00:36:06.420
I think it makes more sense, at least it makes

00:36:06.420 --> 00:36:09.019
more sense to me, if we were to operate within

00:36:09.019 --> 00:36:11.900
our gifts and abilities and callings, if we did

00:36:11.900 --> 00:36:14.420
that and did that well, I think that makes more

00:36:14.420 --> 00:36:16.880
sense. And I think that we have a better chance

00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:19.920
of reaching the world if we did that than if

00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:24.159
we try to play to what we're not called to. Are

00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:28.340
you following me? Now, I'm not talking to people

00:36:28.340 --> 00:36:29.960
who are called to be an evangelist. If you're

00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:31.980
called to be an evangelist, then by all means,

00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:33.800
you should go do evangelism. You should do it

00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:36.039
really well. And you should help all of us with

00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:37.800
that. You should help us to be better at it.

00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:40.239
But I think it makes more sense. Like, if I'm

00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:41.800
a shepherd, doesn't it make more sense for me

00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:46.139
to be a good shepherd? And doesn't it make more

00:36:46.139 --> 00:36:48.159
sense for me to allow evangelists to be great

00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:50.539
evangelists? And doesn't it make more sense for

00:36:50.539 --> 00:36:53.340
me to allow the prophets to be prophets and the

00:36:53.340 --> 00:36:55.480
teachers to be teachers? Because this is what

00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:58.409
God's called me to. It's not that he's just called

00:36:58.409 --> 00:37:00.550
it to me and I can flip it on and flip it off

00:37:00.550 --> 00:37:03.050
and in this moment I can be an evangelist. That's

00:37:03.050 --> 00:37:05.130
not the way that it is it gets stamped into your

00:37:05.130 --> 00:37:13.190
spiritual DNA So this is who I am and Doesn't

00:37:13.190 --> 00:37:15.110
it make more sense just to allow me to be who

00:37:15.110 --> 00:37:19.730
God's called me to be It doesn't make more sense

00:37:19.730 --> 00:37:23.579
for you to be who God's called you to be And

00:37:23.579 --> 00:37:25.699
I'm not saying that we shouldn't help people

00:37:25.699 --> 00:37:28.619
to know how to evangelize. We will. We'll talk

00:37:28.619 --> 00:37:30.539
about that. I'll give you some tools. I've given

00:37:30.539 --> 00:37:34.659
you tools. I'll continue to give you tools. But

00:37:34.659 --> 00:37:36.840
sometimes I think it just makes more sense and

00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:39.579
I think we're more effective if we do what God's

00:37:39.579 --> 00:37:43.099
called us to do. So I already told Danita that

00:37:43.099 --> 00:37:45.739
I have like tons more material, but I want to

00:37:45.739 --> 00:37:47.840
be done before you are, so I will be done before

00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:50.860
you are. We're only going to talk about all of

00:37:50.860 --> 00:37:53.159
the fivefold today, and then I'm going to start

00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:55.960
with the Apostles next week. So I've got a couple

00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:57.840
different graphics I want to throw up just so

00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:00.260
you can see what I'm talking about. So Apostles,

00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:01.699
that's what I'm going to talk about first. We'll

00:38:01.699 --> 00:38:03.539
take them in the order that they are in Scripture.

00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:08.320
Apostles, they're pioneers, they're innovators,

00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.039
they're catalysts. They start new movements,

00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:14.880
cast vision. That makes sense, right? So prophets,

00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.139
they're truth tellers, they're reformers, they're

00:38:17.139 --> 00:38:20.880
cultural architects. They speak truth, seek justice,

00:38:21.380 --> 00:38:24.579
challenge systems. Evangelists, they're connectors,

00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:27.840
influencers, storytellers. They build relationships,

00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:33.760
spreads ideas passionately. I don't know how

00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:36.380
many of you know this guy, James Smith. I know

00:38:36.380 --> 00:38:38.119
that some of you know James Smith, one of my

00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:40.280
friends. We worked together on staff at Findley,

00:38:40.579 --> 00:38:43.340
worked for Mount Vernon for a while. James Smith

00:38:43.340 --> 00:38:46.800
is an evangelist through and through. Like everything

00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:49.139
that you see there, he is every last one of those.

00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:51.880
He's a connector. He's an influencer. He's a

00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:54.719
storyteller. He's incredibly passionate about

00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:57.139
what he does. He's an evangelist through and

00:38:57.139 --> 00:39:00.650
through. shepherds, nurturer, mentor, community

00:39:00.650 --> 00:39:03.809
builders, cares for people's foster belonging

00:39:03.809 --> 00:39:07.630
and health, teacher's guide, their educators,

00:39:08.110 --> 00:39:11.489
system thinkers, brings clarity, structure, and

00:39:11.489 --> 00:39:14.630
understanding. Now, even that, that's not bad,

00:39:15.510 --> 00:39:18.550
but sometimes we see things like that and we're

00:39:18.550 --> 00:39:24.170
reluctant to say, hey, I am an apostle. And some

00:39:24.170 --> 00:39:25.989
of that's because of the abuse that has happened

00:39:25.989 --> 00:39:29.480
in the body of Christ, right? So because, I mean,

00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:31.300
let's face it, we've already talked about this.

00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:33.760
Not all of the times have these been gracious

00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.880
things. And there have been pastors who have

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abused that, and they've abused their people.

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And so we're reluctant to say, because we don't

00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:45.460
want to be associated with that. And I get that.

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So this next slide actually gives us just some

00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:49.820
other ways to think about those things. So apostles

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are sent ones. They can be church planters. They

00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:57.000
can be entrepreneurs. I just feel smarter saying

00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:01.079
the word entrepreneurs. I just want you to think

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about that for a second. And the reason I want

00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:07.539
you to see that is, so business people, people

00:40:07.539 --> 00:40:10.780
who start their own business from nothing, people

00:40:10.780 --> 00:40:13.880
like Bob Robbins, they start a business from

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nothing. That takes a special kind of calling

00:40:17.619 --> 00:40:23.150
to do that. The calling that that would be is

00:40:23.150 --> 00:40:25.130
we would say that they're an apostle. They take

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something and make it from nothing. People who

00:40:28.630 --> 00:40:31.570
can start a company from nothing in my, like,

00:40:31.750 --> 00:40:33.409
you tell me you started a company from nothing

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and I automatically start thinking, okay, that's

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an apostle. That's somebody who can take something

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and make something out of nothing. They can do

00:40:42.769 --> 00:40:44.889
things in new places. They can replicate that.

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That to me is an apostle. So they are church

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planners, they're entrepreneurs, prophets, they're

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truth tellers, artists. Sometimes we think about

00:40:54.179 --> 00:40:57.440
artists in all of their forms. We think about

00:40:57.440 --> 00:40:59.500
artists and we would not ever say, okay, I think

00:40:59.500 --> 00:41:01.199
of that person as a prophet, but that's what

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they are. Is that making sense? Things like intercessors,

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evangelists, they're gospel bearers, they're

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storytellers, they're bridge builders, shepherds

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are caregivers, coaches, mentors. Kevin Deming,

00:41:20.710 --> 00:41:23.590
he's a football coach. He's been a part of what

00:41:23.590 --> 00:41:28.610
we do at camp for, oh goodness, well over a decade.

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And a lot of our students at camp, they just

00:41:32.730 --> 00:41:36.269
call him coach. And it's not something that he

00:41:36.269 --> 00:41:38.030
says, hey, call me this. It's just because that's

00:41:38.030 --> 00:41:40.230
who he is, right? It gets stamped into his DNA.

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And people, like, Kevin doesn't have to say,

00:41:42.630 --> 00:41:45.980
I am a football coach, right? So if you're around

00:41:45.980 --> 00:41:48.039
Kevin for five seconds, you'd be like, dude's

00:41:48.039 --> 00:41:50.980
a coach. I don't know what he coaches, but dude's

00:41:50.980 --> 00:41:53.599
a coach, right? It gets stamped into his DNA.

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So, like you understand how, like I see that

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and I say, okay, Kevin's a shepherd. Because

00:42:01.460 --> 00:42:09.059
he cares for, he guides, he invests in the youth

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of our culture, teachers. truth organizers, educators,

00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:16.340
curriculum developers and I just wanted you to

00:42:16.340 --> 00:42:19.559
see that because I think it helps us to see like

00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:22.099
it sometimes it's difficult for us to say with

00:42:22.099 --> 00:42:24.539
these biblical titles that's what I am and I

00:42:24.539 --> 00:42:26.480
just want to flesh it out a little bit so that

00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:28.219
you can see that there are other expressions.

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Does that all make sense? So we need all of those

00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:37.059
in the body of Christ right? We need every last

00:42:37.059 --> 00:42:40.340
one of those and if we're going to mend a broken

00:42:40.340 --> 00:42:43.949
world It's gonna take all of those people doing

00:42:43.949 --> 00:42:47.550
what they do and We want to get out of their

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way and let them do what they do amen So I told

00:42:53.789 --> 00:42:55.929
you I would be done before you are and that's

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the point that I need to land the plane so In

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2007 which how many of you think that seems like

00:43:06.909 --> 00:43:12.659
forever ago, I mean 2007 so what? 18 years ago,

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18 years ago, there was a band by the name of

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Blue Tree. Has anyone heard of Blue Tree? I hadn't

00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:28.000
really heard of them either. But they were performing.

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They're a Christian. Let me back up. So Blue

00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:37.380
Tree is a Christian band, a worship band. They

00:43:37.380 --> 00:43:43.739
were performing in a bar in Patea. And it was

00:43:43.739 --> 00:43:46.239
part of this outreach place. They went there

00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:48.820
on purpose because Pataya at the time was one

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of the darkest places, the darkest communities

00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:53.559
in the world. And they intentionally wanted to

00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:56.239
find the darkest places in the world. And they

00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:58.619
went on tour to all of these really dark places

00:43:58.619 --> 00:44:01.599
where some awful things happened. This particular

00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:05.800
one, they were known for... Pataya at the time

00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:10.420
was one of the leading cities in the world for...

00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:15.139
human trafficking and sex slave trade. It's one

00:44:15.139 --> 00:44:17.119
of the largest places in the world at the time.

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So during their concert in Patea, Aaron Boyd,

00:44:20.860 --> 00:44:23.199
who was the lead singer, he felt stirred in his

00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:25.880
spirit by all that was going on around him. I

00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:27.460
mean anywhere that you would look you just saw

00:44:27.460 --> 00:44:30.260
brokenness and exploitation and spiritual need

00:44:30.260 --> 00:44:34.760
and in a moment he just began to sing out a spontaneous

00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:40.639
prayer really over the city of Patea. prayer

00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:46.219
went like this greater things have yet to come

00:44:46.219 --> 00:44:48.579
and greater things are still to be done in this

00:44:48.579 --> 00:44:52.900
city now you probably recognize those words because

00:44:52.900 --> 00:44:55.719
chris tomlin heard the song that blue tree did

00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:58.940
in patea and then he recorded it and everyone

00:44:58.940 --> 00:45:03.519
knows um god of this city because chris tomlin

00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:06.579
heard it he began to sing it So those words weren't

00:45:06.579 --> 00:45:08.400
rehearsed. They weren't pre -written. It was

00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:11.579
something that was almost a prophetic declaration

00:45:11.579 --> 00:45:15.519
that was birthed from the band's heartache and

00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:17.320
hope for what God could do in a place called

00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:22.539
Pate. So it is a prophetic declaration. I won't

00:45:22.539 --> 00:45:26.659
dispute that at all, but in my mind that's that's

00:45:26.659 --> 00:45:28.920
the heart of an apostle. A heart of an apostle

00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:32.019
sees past what is to what could be and begins

00:45:32.019 --> 00:45:35.239
to to get the heart of what God wants to do in

00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:40.039
Patea, and what God wants to do in Parma, and

00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:42.699
what God wants to do in North Royalton, and what

00:45:42.699 --> 00:45:44.719
God wants to do in Independence and Brexfield

00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:50.360
and Burlington, and what God wants to do in your

00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:57.329
town. And I think at some point, like we need

00:45:57.329 --> 00:45:59.949
all five right and i understand that we need

00:45:59.949 --> 00:46:02.750
all of the fivefold doing their thing to reach

00:46:02.750 --> 00:46:05.389
a broken world to mend the brokenness that's

00:46:05.389 --> 00:46:08.650
in the world around us but we're going to sing

00:46:08.650 --> 00:46:11.969
that song that they that they they wrote over

00:46:11.969 --> 00:46:18.690
patea and this morning i want you to make a declaration

00:46:18.690 --> 00:46:22.070
over your town the place that you live here's

00:46:22.070 --> 00:46:23.869
some things i want you to think about as we do

00:46:23.869 --> 00:46:27.210
that I want you to think about the theme of the

00:46:27.210 --> 00:46:29.530
song is very easy to figure out that it's talking

00:46:29.530 --> 00:46:33.329
about hope in the midst of the worst kind of

00:46:33.329 --> 00:46:35.849
darkness that you can imagine. So I don't know

00:46:35.849 --> 00:46:37.630
what the darkness looks like in your life. I

00:46:37.630 --> 00:46:39.829
don't know what things are dark and seem like

00:46:39.829 --> 00:46:43.110
they're bleak and hopeless. But as we sing this,

00:46:43.170 --> 00:46:44.849
I want you to know that in the midst of that,

00:46:44.949 --> 00:46:49.769
that there's hope. Amen. And maybe you even need

00:46:49.769 --> 00:46:52.559
to like... stir up some prophetic stuff in you

00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.159
and you may need to make this a declaration just

00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:57.519
like they did in Patea and say you know what

00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:01.400
greater things are yet to come this isn't the

00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:05.199
end of the story greater things God's gonna do

00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:07.340
in the midst of all of this stuff than what I'm

00:47:07.340 --> 00:47:10.940
seeing right now and the song speaks about God's

00:47:10.940 --> 00:47:13.579
sovereignty over our cities and our nations and

00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:15.739
And maybe this morning you want to make that

00:47:15.739 --> 00:47:18.460
kind of declaration, that God's sovereign over

00:47:18.460 --> 00:47:20.659
your town, that God's sovereign over your city.

00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:23.519
Maybe some of you, that's not what God's calling

00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:26.260
you to. Maybe what God's stirring up in you apostolically

00:47:26.260 --> 00:47:28.559
today is that you want to declare that over our

00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:31.199
nation, that greater things are coming, that

00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:34.119
this isn't the end. We're not going to be known

00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.519
for this. That God's going to do something greater

00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:41.659
than this. And the song speaks to a call for

00:47:41.659 --> 00:47:44.380
us to intercede and believe for transformation.

00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:48.000
That when things are dark and they're bleak,

00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:51.400
that we don't just roll over and say, I guess

00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:55.139
that's as good as it's gonna get. But that we

00:47:55.139 --> 00:47:58.179
begin to intercede and we lean in and we pray

00:47:58.179 --> 00:48:01.460
and we don't quit. We keep leaning in until things

00:48:01.460 --> 00:48:04.780
change. The chorus of the song simply says this,

00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.500
you're the god of this city. You're the king

00:48:07.500 --> 00:48:11.019
of these people. You're the Lord of this nation.

00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:18.519
You are. And whatever your circumstance, whatever

00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:23.940
your situation, I want you to declare that over

00:48:23.940 --> 00:48:41.769
your circumstance. You're the God of this. I

00:48:41.769 --> 00:48:43.550
think that we can do that and almost make that

00:48:43.550 --> 00:48:47.010
a prayer. Amen. That's what I want you to do

00:48:47.010 --> 00:48:51.010
with me today. When we're done singing it, don't

00:48:51.010 --> 00:48:53.889
leave. I do have an official benediction that

00:48:53.889 --> 00:48:59.150
I'll give you. But I want us to kind of corporately

00:48:59.150 --> 00:49:03.610
pray this over some dark things together. Will

00:49:03.610 --> 00:49:04.429
you do that with me?
