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Hey friend, welcome back here to the Seminar

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Seminary and another week, another episode of

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the Bible Study Series called The Bible for Grownups.

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And in this series, what we're trying to accomplish

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is looking at the Bible from an adult perspective.

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And when we say that, we take the idea that many

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of us, our first encounters may be Maybe many

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of us are most frequent encounters with the Bible

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came when we were kids through the stories of

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the Bible that were taught. And then if we weren't

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taught those stories as children, often many

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of us come to the Bible as adults, but we're

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taught the Bible by people. probably were taught

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the Bible as children. And so often, so many

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of us are left with this childlike understanding

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of the Bible in an adult world. That causes many

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of us to simply walk away from the idea that

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the Bible has some sort of power in our lives.

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So we're trying to challenge that notion. And

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in that idea, I'd like to, just for tonight,

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not necessarily talk about in the Bible, but

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about the Bible. And let me present a case in

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which I believe proves that the Bible is reliable.

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I'll see you on the other side. I'm excited.

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Hey guys, can I go ahead and get started? I'm

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sorry to interrupt you. It was fun having conversation.

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It really was. It was fun listening and watching.

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Is that well? Fair enough. Fair enough. So tonight

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I want to talk, as you might expect in Bible

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study, about the Bible. And I actually mean that

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in general terms. Like tonight, I'd actually,

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if you have the Bible and you want to open it

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up, we'll be looking at 2 Timothy 3. That'll

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be the first text. That's in the New Testament.

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It's one of the letters of Paul. And we'll be

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looking there kind of as a kicking off point.

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We'll have a couple of other scriptures in there.

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But tonight I'd actually just talk about, I'd

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like to talk about the Bible. And what I'd like

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to actually talk about is, can we consider the

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Bible to be reliable? Does that kind of rhyme?

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Is the Bible reliable? That's the title. Is the

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Bible reliable? There we go. Okay, that's the

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title of the podcast tonight. Can we trust it?

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Okay. In other words, can we believe? Is there

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a reason for us to believe that on the actual

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pages of the Bible are the actual words of God?

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Or are they just simply the opinions and the

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imagination of humankind? I believe, and I'd

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like to present the evidence tonight to argue,

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that inside the Bible contain books that contain

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the truth of our living God in cooperation with

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human inspiration. And today I'd like to tell

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you why. I mentioned 2 Timothy 3. I'd like to

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look at 16 and 17, verses 16 and 17. Scripture

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says all Scripture is God -breathed. And it is

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useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and

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training in righteousness so that the man or

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woman of God may be thoroughly equipped for every

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good work. Okay? This is... A part of the original

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writings of the Bible. This is when the idea

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that these manuscripts, these texts, that are

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being shared amongst these early churches, that

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in many ways, except for a D like imagine in

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an old Egypt movie, papyrus kind of, that kind

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of thing, it wouldn't look much different probably

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than maybe this. Just a collection, a sheath

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of... Papers with words written down on them.

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Those words inspired by God, written by humankind,

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and right off the bat, recognized by those who

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shared those texts and read them and heard them,

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they knew right away there was something different

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about these manuscripts. That eventually get

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put together into one book. And we count up all

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the pages and put page numbers. And do paragraph

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breaks and chapter and verse and all that. Which

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won't come for hundreds and hundreds of years

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later. But we see right here Paul talking to

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Timothy. That's how we get that name. And instructing

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his early pastor, church planter friend. are

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more than just remembrances of something that

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may or may not have happened, but there's actually

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some power contained within them. And that the

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words contained in these manuscripts is good

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for teaching and correcting and training in what?

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In righteousness. Now, the way that they describe

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this, okay, is this term God -breathed, okay?

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Is God breathed? Now, I don't want to get into

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tonight a discussion of whether it is necessary

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and you do hold a belief in an inerrant Bible.

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No contradiction. No changes from the original

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manuscript. Just like a... like some magic Harry

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Potter flaming pen starts writing words down

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on a page, and Matthew's just there to change

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to a blank new piece of paper. The words contained

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in the Bible are in relationship with humankind.

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It was humankind that put the pen in the hand

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and put the words down. recognized immediately

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as something different than just imagination,

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but rather the words were God -breathed. Now,

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let me use a Greek word here so it sounds a little

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cool and I sound smart. I hope, because I can

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never pronounce these words correctly. It's theonotos.

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See? Theonostos. Theonostos. That means divine

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or God breathed. We get Theo for God. Pneuma,

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we've been talking about here on Sunday, here

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recently, that that Greek word pneuma means the

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spirit. So spirit, God's spirit in these words.

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Now, this is saying that God can give us everything

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that we need. To fulfill everything God wants

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us to do in our life. But is it God's word? I,

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again, believe that it is. And actually, I'd

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like to just throw out some different facts about

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the Bible. Maybe you didn't know. That might

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make you see this book in perhaps a different

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way. Okay? Now, some of these things you may

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know. Some of these things you may not know.

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First one is the Bible is the best -selling book

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of all time in human history. And we probably,

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you may have heard this anecdote. By the way,

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it's as a result of the fact that it is the most

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published and best -selling of all time. It also

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coincidentally happens to be the most shoplifted

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book in the world. Now, the Bible isn't just

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one book, but rather it's a collection of 66...

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Different books. And the Bible has 773 ,692 words.

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It would take an average person about 70 hours

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to read the book aloud. But what's amazing, I'm

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pointing all of this diversity out here, is because

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the Bible is actually not written by one author.

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The Bible is written... by all different kinds

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of people, by politicians, by statesmen, by farmers,

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by shepherds, by peasants, by musicians, by poets,

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even by tax collectors. The Bible is also written

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from all different sorts of places. The Bible

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was written by Moses in the wilderness during

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the Exodus when they escaped Egypt, by Jeremiah,

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the end, of the fall of Jerusalem. He's trapped

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in a dungeon writing his prophecies. The gospel

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account of Luke and the Acts of the Apostles

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written by Luke as he traveled with Paul. Paul,

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speaking of, writer of about two -thirds of the

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contents of the New Testament, Paul writes some

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of his stuff from prison. The Apostle John, The

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disciple, the attributed author of the Gospel

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account of John, is also known to have written

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the Revelation at the end of the Bible. And you

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may or may not know that he wrote the Gospel

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account according to John first, at the end of

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his life, and then got in trouble with the Roman

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emperor. but was really too popular to kill.

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They tried a couple of times. They actually tried

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to boil him in oil. And rather than kill him,

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they decided to exile him to this little tiny

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island called Patmos. And it was there that he

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wrote the Revelation. It was written on three

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different continents, Asia, Africa, and Europe.

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And it was written over time in three different

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languages, Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. And what,

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again, is amazing is even though the Bible was

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written for people from all different walks of

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life over the span of 1 ,500 years, it has this

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incredible, amazing accuracy and consistency

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when it comments on the character and the nature

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of God. and God's redemptive plan for us. To

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me, that is the part. I mean, just think about

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it. I mean, you guys in kindergarten, not kindergarten,

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sorry, elementary school, right? We play the

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telephone game. That thing where you start out

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with something, by the time it gets around to

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the end, it's completely different. The point

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is to kind of show how with each transmission

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of an idea, It gets a little bit further from

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the truth, right? 1 ,500 years, people from all

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different walks of life, all over three different

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continents, writing for different reasons, and

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yet this story of God and this redemptive plan

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for humankind from beginning to end is incredibly

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accurate and consistent. So I'm going to argue

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tonight that not only is it consistent, true,

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and inspired, but it also speaks on a multitude

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of human topics, marriage, divorce, remarriage,

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adultery, sex, lust, pride, obedience, heaven,

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hell, lying, murder, suicide, peace, rebellion,

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leadership, patience, faithfulness, all of that,

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even cats. Not cats, actually, but the Bible

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talks about the devil. To me, that's about the

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same thing. Sorry. So let's talk for a few minutes

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about the reliability of the Bible. Again, we're

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asking, is the Bible reliable? I love that. Is

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the Bible trustworthy, true, and accurate? Or

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again, is this just the imagination and the opinions

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of people? Okay, so this is a really cool story.

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In 1952, there was a historian by the name of

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Steve Sanders. And he came up with three, oh,

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wait, I'm sorry, this isn't the really cool,

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the really cool one's next. Came up with three

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specific tests to evaluate the authenticity of

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historical writings, not just the Bible, okay?

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But looking at ancient texts like texts from

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the Bible and trying to establish everything

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we could possibly know about them. Are they real?

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Are they true? Are they to be relied upon? Are

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they not? And why not? I don't know if you guys

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have ever heard of a type of, you probably haven't.

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It's called hagiography. Has anybody ever heard

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of hagiography? No, look, I'm going to say one

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political thing. And even if you are a supporter,

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you're going to probably agree with what I'm

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about to say. So I mean no malice by it. But

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if there was a modern person who probably would

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have a hagiography written about them, it would

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be somebody like Donald Trump. And what that

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was is really rich people in ancient times would

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go and they would find an author or a poet and

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they would say, write a story about me so people

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could read about how awesome I am and sprinkle

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around plenty of awesome. Even if it's not true,

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right? And so we don't, when we first discover

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these ancient texts, that's not written anywhere.

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It doesn't say, this is satire or comes to you

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from the onion .com, right? There's no, it doesn't

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immediately identify itself as fake. But then

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we start to examine the text inside and around.

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and outside this text, and we find inconsistencies

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that lead us to believe this isn't a biography.

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It's a hagiography. It's like a biography. It's

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supposed to be a biography, but it's fake. It's

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fake to make this person look important, okay?

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This is how we determine, by looking, using these

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tools, okay? So... This guy, Sanders, put the

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Bible to the same test. And the first test I

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want to talk about, it was kind of a three -fold

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thing, is the internal test. Here's the internal

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test. Regarding the Bible, the internal test

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wants to answer the question, do the writers

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of the Bible claim that the words are true? In

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other words, are they writing something with

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the intent? Of illustrating or demonstrating

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to the reader that this is something that did

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in fact happen. Because not all literature is

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nonfiction, right? There's more fiction than

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there is nonfiction. And that fiction is where

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the writer says, no, you should know right away

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or I'm going to tell you right up front. This

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is made up and it is not to be taken as something

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that exactly happened. No, no, no, no. Do the

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writers say, no, I was there, I saw it, and this

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is accurate? Well, let's look at one of the letters

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in the New Testament, and this is written by,

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I mean, Peter, the Peter, rooster crowing Peter.

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He writes a couple letters. In the second letter

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that he writes, in the first chapter, in the

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16th verse, Remember, these are the letters that

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are being circulated that were treated as the

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early Bible. And Peter instructs the early Christians

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reading this letter. He says to them something

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because these questions come up. He says, we

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did not follow cleverly invented stories when

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we told you about the power and the coming of

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our Lord Jesus Christ. We weren't just telling

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you a really cool story when we were telling

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you about Jesus. But Peter can, with authenticity,

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write, we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. In

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other words, Peter is saying here, no, no, no.

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I was there, I saw it, and I experienced it firsthand.

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I am a primary source. I was an eyewitness to

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these events. This is not just some story I either

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made up or heard from somebody else. And I keep

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talking about this early Bible business. When

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was the Bible, when I'm talking about the Bible,

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I'm first of all talking about the Christian

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Bible, the Christian Testament or the New Testament.

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And it was at the same time that these books

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were being put together that the early Christians

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also latched on to Jewish scripture. And so these

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books begin to come together as we know them

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as the Bible, kind of between the years 47 and

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95. And so 85 to 90 is about when we get the

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gospel account according to John. And then 95

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is believed to be the writing of the apocalypse

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because we can date the emperor. We know when

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it happened based on who was emperor at the time.

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So what are you saying? What I'm saying is Jesus

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died in either 30 or 33. There is so much. discussion

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right now that, that his birth was probably three

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BC instead of actually when we changed the calendar

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to zero, that's actually not zero. We got it

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wrong, right? He was 33 when he died, but it

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wasn't 33 AD. It was probably 30 AD. You're like,

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what does this matter? It doesn't, right? It

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doesn't matter. But 30 to 33, the Bible is starting

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to come together as holy books, between 47 and

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95, within just a few decades. What that means

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is that there were plenty of first -generation

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believers to these events when these books began

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widely being circulated. They would have read

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these or heard about these books, and they could

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have very easily been there and had first -hand...

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first -hand knowledge about the events of the

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Bible, and they could have at any time refuted

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what was being written as Scripture and say,

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I was there and that wasn't true. But they didn't

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and haven't. Across the board, it seems, the

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Bible passes that internal test. Now, the second

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one's called the external. And what that is,

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is what do we, information we have outside the

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Bible about the Bible? In other words, what do

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non -biblical sources say about the Bible? Do

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they confirm the stories we have in the Bible?

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Or does other ancient literature say, no, these

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events aren't true and we can explain why? Well,

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first I want to say. From a Christian perspective,

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beyond the shadow of a doubt, the historiosity,

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what does that mean? It means based on the historical

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evidence we have, based on the accounts we have,

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there is really no debate anymore if there was

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a guy named Jesus from Nazareth who actually

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lived at this time. They don't even try to dispute

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that anymore. It's been a long time. It wasn't

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that long ago, actually. The 1980s. where it

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was really still hotly disputed by some people

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whether Jesus of Nazareth even existed at all.

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And we actually have non -biblical writings that

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talk about Jesus. We have Roman writers, Greek

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writers, and we have Jewish sources, people who

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affirm the life of this cat, Jesus of Nazareth.

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And not only that, but there's another famous

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guy, and I mean, guys, I had to buy this for

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a class, and I used this book for like one page,

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and it is this thick, and it's called The Writings

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of Josephus, right? A Jewish historian from the

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first century who writes about Jesus and about

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John the Baptist, and he wrote about... James,

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Jesus' brother, later. Because James wasn't an

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original follower of Jesus. He was his brother.

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There's no way his brother's going to believe

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him when he says, hey, I'm the savior of the

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world. Yeah, you are. And then, like, give him

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a noogie or whatever. Right? You know how hard

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it'd be to convince your brother or sister that

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you're the Christ? I don't blame him. Anyway.

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Now, another thing. that was challenged was archaeological

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evidence. Because for a long time, we just didn't

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have much agreed upon archaeological discovery

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that seemed to indicate truth from major things

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happening in the Bible. But that's changed over

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time. In fact, we have portions of archaeology,

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I'm sorry, we have archaeology now that completely

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prove portions of these stories of the bible

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are true so we have we've over time have received

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tons more uh confirmation based on archaeological

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evidence that the things and the people we talked

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about in the bible aren't just made up but actually

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really did live where and when they that these

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books say they did there was a guy named nelson

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gluick and he is a former president of the jewish

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theological and one of the great all -time archaeologists

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of the Holy Land. And he says this, and I think

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this is fair enough. He says it may be stated

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categorically that no archaeological discovery

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has ever contravented a biblical reference. So

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while we're beginning to see confirmation in

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some areas, we still have nothing. from an archaeological

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discovery that says this proves the Bible isn't

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true. That's something to talk about. Now this

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third one is where I, this is my, I love this

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stuff. Okay, because it's the extra nerdy part.

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Okay, and this is called the bibliographic test.

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And so what does the bibliographic test try to

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accomplish? It wants to find out how well were

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the original documents translated into what we

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find today. have the stories drastically changed

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over time? Was the story that they wrote then

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maybe true, but over time we added and we embellished

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and it turned into something that it's not and

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never was intended to be? How well do the original

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manuscripts translate into today? Now, there

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are some issues with trying to determine the

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accuracy of these manuscripts. Because sometimes,

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specifically, in a minute I'll talk about Christian

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texts, they would make tons of copies of the

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manuscripts. They would write out. They didn't

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have Xerox machines and stuff back then, right?

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They had to write them out letter by letter.

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I mean, you know, alphabetic character by character

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in each letter. by letter. And sometimes they'd

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make tons of copies, even though it was expensive,

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it was difficult, and people who were literate

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were rare. Okay? But with Christian texts, right

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off the bat, big deal. Now, first I want to talk

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about how many copies we have of the Old Testament.

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What's amazing is that they would actually count

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up in the Old Testament, and they would actually

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central letter these copies, and when a manuscript

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was complete, And they would go through these

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copies of these manuscripts, and if they found

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one error at all, one, they would destroy the

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whole copy. I mean, some of these are the whole,

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like it would take the skin of a whole animal

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for a scroll. Lots, my point is a lot of writing.

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One. no matter how big or small mistake, and

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they would destroy it completely. So there are

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very few copies. Some would wear out. Some would

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be ceremonial and buried. And then again, they

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would destroy ones that had any imperfections.

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So because of this, for centuries, the most reliable

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and well -respected Hebrew manuscript, one that

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everybody said, okay, this is the copy that we

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feel like is the master. Key, so to speak. It

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was called the Masoretic Text. The Masoretic

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Text. Now, what's interesting is, this is the

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old ancient Bible, okay? Old Testament. But in

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the year 70 AD, the Romans attacked the Jewish

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people in Jerusalem again. And they were trying

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to destroy their culture, and especially their

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religious heritage. And so what the Jewish people

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did were they took their scrolls and they put

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them in these clay bottles or pots, and they

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hid them in caves. And for 1 ,800 years, these

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biblical scrolls just sit there, completely hidden.

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Kid comes along in 1947, a little Bedouin shepherd

00:28:49.650 --> 00:28:51.849
boy. And I believe the story goes, he was looking

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for one of his sheep and he thought it had ran

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into a cave. And so he took a rock and threw

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the rock into the entrance of the cave, trying

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to scare the sheep out. But whenever he threw

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the rock in the cave, he heard it breaking apart

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a clay pot. So he went and he examined what he

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had done or what was in there. And it were all

00:29:14.049 --> 00:29:18.089
of these. clay vessels from these, and they all

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contain these biblical scrolls from 70, because

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they were hidden from them because they feared,

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again, the complete destruction of Jerusalem

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by an emperor. And when we compare the Dead Sea

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Scrolls to the Masoretic text, the accuracy is

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stunning. I mean, there has been very, very little

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transmission. dissonance. So, let's talk about

00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:54.019
other copies of other books. The bibliographic

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test. Now, in high school, often, at least, I

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don't know if they still call, I don't even know

00:30:00.339 --> 00:30:02.019
if you have to read in high school anymore, but

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we would actually have to read books. And you'd

00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:07.920
always have that one teacher that would make

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you read something like the Odyssey or the Iliad?

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Yeah, okay. Okay. Why? Very, very famous texts.

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Texts. We have 643 copies of the Iliad from original

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manuscript time. And that, for ancient manuscripts,

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is considered a ton. Let me give you an example

00:30:30.380 --> 00:30:33.579
of how big a deal that is. Plato's Republic,

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another famous literary work, we only have seven

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copies. The writings of Aristotle, we only have

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five. Caesar, only 10. Caesar has 10 copies.

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So the most accepted non -biblical historical

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writing would unquestionably be the writings

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of Homer with 643 early manuscripts. How many

00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:03.279
copies do you think we have of original New Testament

00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:11.579
documents? Not 643, not 1 ,000, but over... 24

00:31:11.579 --> 00:31:15.839
,000 copies of original manuscripts of the letters

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and books we find in the New Testament. When

00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:21.440
you compare that against any other historical

00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:23.579
writing beyond a shadow of a doubt, the Bible

00:31:23.579 --> 00:31:26.920
stands alone and unquestionably, in my opinion,

00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.220
passes the bibliographic test with flying colors.

00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:42.450
24 ,000 early copies. Complete. Not original.

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There's only one original, right? But it's complete.

00:31:46.609 --> 00:31:52.589
Okay. So, we like to go to movies, and if you're

00:31:52.589 --> 00:31:54.849
like me, you probably, or TV shows, you like

00:31:54.849 --> 00:31:56.549
to kind of predict what's going to happen in

00:31:56.549 --> 00:31:58.710
the end. Like, you can just, about two -thirds

00:31:58.710 --> 00:32:01.210
of the way, you can just tell, oh, he did it,

00:32:01.250 --> 00:32:04.329
or she did it. Right? We have that same kind

00:32:04.329 --> 00:32:06.230
of thing in Scripture, right? With prophecy.

00:32:07.289 --> 00:32:10.160
And people would say, Things in the Bible, this

00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:12.779
is another thing that makes the Bible unique,

00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.740
is people thousands of years ago would say these

00:32:15.740 --> 00:32:17.920
things are going to happen, and then as time

00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:21.940
goes on, those things would actually happen.

00:32:23.059 --> 00:32:26.539
And of the dozens and dozens of prophecies that

00:32:26.539 --> 00:32:29.400
we find in the Old Testament about promises of

00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:31.920
things that are going to come true, there was

00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:36.619
a group of prophecies that specifically talked...

00:32:36.940 --> 00:32:39.359
About the coming of this messianic character

00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:41.819
in the future that we Christians believe is Jesus

00:32:41.819 --> 00:32:46.339
Christ. Now, there was a professor and his name

00:32:46.339 --> 00:32:50.859
was Peter Stoner. Can you imagine? Peter Stoner,

00:32:50.980 --> 00:32:56.039
all your life. He took 12 of his classes with

00:32:56.039 --> 00:33:00.480
over 600 students. And they wanted to see what

00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:05.099
the likelihood would be. What are the odds? that

00:33:05.099 --> 00:33:08.539
these prophecies about Jesus would be fulfilled.

00:33:09.140 --> 00:33:12.819
For example, one of those promises or prophecies

00:33:12.819 --> 00:33:15.940
was that Jesus would be born in Bethlehem. And

00:33:15.940 --> 00:33:19.200
so at that time, they took the population of

00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:23.839
the world at the time of Jesus' birth, and they,

00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:26.920
what are the odds? And they put a number on it.

00:33:27.779 --> 00:33:30.380
And they did this. What are the odds that this

00:33:30.380 --> 00:33:33.569
would happen at this time in this place? And

00:33:33.569 --> 00:33:37.809
each time they put odds on the eight specific

00:33:37.809 --> 00:33:41.309
prophecies about Jesus. And then they turned

00:33:41.309 --> 00:33:45.400
those numbers over to... a governing board in

00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:48.579
statistics who then approved their statistics

00:33:48.579 --> 00:33:52.480
as reliable. Yeah, you're basing the odds on

00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.700
this situation. Yeah, we agree that that's about

00:33:55.700 --> 00:33:57.500
right for what the odds would be that this would

00:33:57.500 --> 00:33:59.700
happen. And they took eight of them and put them

00:33:59.700 --> 00:34:02.160
together, and they said, what is the possibility

00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:09.500
of these eight specific things happening to one

00:34:09.500 --> 00:34:16.820
specific person? And the odds were 1 and 10 with

00:34:16.820 --> 00:34:23.340
17 zeros behind it. That number. That would be

00:34:23.340 --> 00:34:27.739
the chances of eight prophecies of dozens about

00:34:27.739 --> 00:34:33.619
Jesus being fulfilled. 1 and 10 with 17 zeros.

00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:39.559
Now, you think, that's humongous. And it's so

00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:42.289
humongous. that you're not even going to be able

00:34:42.289 --> 00:34:47.349
to figure this out. This probably won't even

00:34:47.349 --> 00:34:50.050
make sense. But let me give you an example of

00:34:50.050 --> 00:34:55.670
what one and this number is. You guys ever been

00:34:55.670 --> 00:35:00.050
to Texas? Let's think about how wide Texas is,

00:35:00.090 --> 00:35:02.409
first and foremost. Did you guys know that it's

00:35:02.409 --> 00:35:07.110
closer from El Paso to Los Angeles than it is

00:35:07.110 --> 00:35:13.639
from Houston to El Paso? shorter, sorry, it's

00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:18.599
less distance to drive to L .A. from El Paso

00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:22.840
than just cross the state from Houston to El

00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:27.300
Paso. That's how big Texas is. Now, let's see.

00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:31.639
Take a silver dollar and put a red X on one silver

00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:37.760
dollar and then drop it somewhere within the

00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:41.590
boundary of the state of Texas. anywhere in the

00:35:41.590 --> 00:35:44.010
state of Texas you want. It could be Austin,

00:35:44.210 --> 00:35:48.130
Lubbock, Dallas, Beaumont, anywhere in a field,

00:35:48.269 --> 00:35:53.650
on a highway, in the bottom of a creek, the bottom

00:35:53.650 --> 00:36:00.190
of a lake, right? Okay. But wait, before I ask

00:36:00.190 --> 00:36:03.150
you to go find it, what I want you to do is I

00:36:03.150 --> 00:36:06.050
want you to have enough silver dollars that you

00:36:06.050 --> 00:36:10.360
could dump silver dollars over the entire surface

00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:12.639
of the state of texas to a depth of two feet

00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:20.079
two feet is that about right the entire state

00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:23.239
of texas is this deep in silver dollars and yours

00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:27.000
is somewhere in there in the state of texas and

00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:30.559
a miracle of all miracles you stop one day after

00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.659
days and weeks and months and years of deciding

00:36:34.659 --> 00:36:37.280
where you want to go to try to look for the one

00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.260
with the X. And finally, you realize just where

00:36:40.260 --> 00:36:42.980
you think it might be, and you reach down and

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you pick up the one. That is the same odds as

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these things being true about this one person.

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I want to wrap up with a few prophecies. Isaiah

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7 says, The virgin with child shall give birth.

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And that was fulfilled. See, your king comes

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to you, righteous and having salvation, gentle

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riding on a donkey. That's fulfilled. Even my

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close friends whom I trust have lifted his heel

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against me. That will come true. The betrayer

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has arranged a signal. The one I kiss is the

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man. Arrest him. Going at once to Jesus, Judas

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said, Greetings, Rabbi, and kissed him. Psalm

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118 shows that the Messiah, will not completely

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die but rise again. I will not die but live and

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will proclaim what the Lord has done. The Lord

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has chastened me severely and will not give me

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over to death. Revelation 19 says, I saw heaven

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standing open and there before me was a white

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horse whose rider is called Faithful and True.

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Justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are

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like a blazing fire and on his head are many

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crowns. He has a name written on him that no

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one knows but he himself. He's dressed in a robe

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dipped in blood, and his name is the word of

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God. The armies of heaven are following him,

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riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen,

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white and clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp

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sword with which to strike down the nations.

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He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads

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them, the wine press with the fury and the wrath

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of the God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh,

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he has the name written, King of Kings and Lord

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of Lords. So friends, I hope that in looking

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at these various ways in which we might examine

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the reliability of the God, I hope that I've

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been able to show you tonight that there seems

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to be, to me, be more evidence and to trust in

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what the Bible says than clearly anything that

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might contradict it. But more important than

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that. I think what the scriptures more than anything

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shows us is God's desire to have a relationship

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with us by sharing in the creative process, the

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creating process of making this book by which

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we might know God and ourselves that much better.

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Amen? Amen. Amen. Thank you, guys. You know,

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when I look at the media -filled world in which

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we all exist now with the Internet and social

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media and the information that just flows through

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us on a constant basis, one of the things that

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I seem to notice is that over time, there has

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definitely been this... This idea that it's okay

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to challenge everything. And don't get me wrong,

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I think we should challenge everything. But based

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on a certain set of ideas, despite their evidence,

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people are at times reasonably people. Reasonable,

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rather, people. are completely prepared to believe

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in the unreasonable. We see this through conspiracy

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theories all the time. And yet, we're not even

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often, because of our skeptical nature, close

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to giving Holy Scripture that same treatment.

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The idea is quite simply, There is more evidence

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to seem to indicate that the stories we find

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contained in this book we call the Bible is true

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than not true. I'm not even trying to argue that

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it's overwhelming. I'm certainly not trying to

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argue that it's absolute, because if it was absolute,

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well, we wouldn't even need faith. There has

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to be a mystery to it. But at the same time,

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as reasonable people, is it completely unreasonable

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to believe in the evidence we find that the words

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contained in Scripture are in fact true? We're

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willing to accept that the moon is made of cheese.

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We certainly never landed on it. And the world

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is flat. And yet, despite the evidence we find

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that Scripture is in fact what it appears to

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be, we remain skeptical. What is it that gets

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in our way when it comes to this? Something to

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think about. Anyway, until next week, friend,

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be well.
