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Welcome to the deep dive. Today we're looking

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into something absolutely fundamental. what drives

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us, especially within the demand and world of

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medicine. We all see that incredible dedication,

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don't we? That real push to heal and innovate.

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We do, and it raises a big question. What's really

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underneath all that? What fuels that excellence

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and wellbeing when the pressure is immense? Exactly,

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and our mission today really is to challenge

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some of those, well, ingrained ideas about motivation.

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Yes, moving past the simple carrot and stick.

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We want to explore how understanding our you

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know, fundamental drives can genuinely impact

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job satisfaction, performance, and even innovation

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in healthcare. It's quite profound, actually.

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Let's kick off with a little thought experiment.

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Imagine it's, say, 1995. You're telling an economist

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you've got a crystal ball showing two new encyclopedias

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about to launch. Which one will succeed by 2010?

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Okay. So the first is from Microsoft. Huge company,

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well -funded. They'll pay professionals, have

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managers sell it. The works. Basically, in Carta.

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Built on all the usual business rules. Incentives,

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management, planning. Right. Standard stuff.

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Then there's the second one. Not from a company

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at all. Built by volunteers. Thousands of them.

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Working for free, just for the fun of it. No

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pay. And the encyclopedia itself. Online only.

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Totally free. Well, back in 95, any sensible

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economist would have probably laughed, wouldn't

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they? The second model sounds frankly ridiculous

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by conventional standards. Microsoft has all

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the resources. pays people properly. It seems

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like a no -brainer, and Carta must win. Exactly.

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The volunteers. They're getting nothing, even

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losing potential earnings. It defies economic

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logic as we knew it. But as you probably know,

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that's not what happened. October 2009, Microsoft

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shut down Encarta. And the other one? Wikipedia.

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Became the biggest encyclopedia in the world.

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Millions of articles, hundreds of languages.

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It didn't just survive, it thrived. It completely

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overturned expectations, didn't it? It really

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did. shattered that conventional wisdom. It suggests

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there's something else going on, a duping kind

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of driver we often overlook. And that's precisely

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why this matters so much for medicine. If this

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applies to encyclopedias, what does it mean for

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a field like ours? High skill, high stakes, lives

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on the line. You have to ask, don't you? Is our

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basic understanding of motivation actually fit

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for purpose in today's complex medical world?

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A world demanding constant learning, empathy,

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innovation? Perhaps it's outdated. So let's dig

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into where this alternative understanding came

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from. It started, perhaps surprisingly, quite

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a while ago. Middle of the last century. That's

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right. With two scientists whose initial work

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didn't quite get the traction it deserved at

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the time, we begin in 1949 with Harry Harlow

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at the University of Wisconsin. The primate lab

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guy. The very same. He sat at this lab and gave

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rhesus monkeys a simple mechanical puzzle. Pull

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a pin, undo a hook, lift a lid. Simple for us,

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but... Tricky for a monkey. And he just put these

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in their cages. No training, no reward planned

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initially. Exactly. Just to see how they'd react.

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Sort of baseline observation before proper tests.

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Yeah. But something quite remarkable happened

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straight away. What was that? The monkeys, completely

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unprompted, just started playing with the puzzles.

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They were focused, determined. Harlow even said

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they looked like they were, well, enjoying it.

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And they got good at it. Fast. Swallowing it

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in under a minute sometimes. Wow. Without any

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reward, that goes against the grain, doesn't

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it? Completely. Back then, the thinking was all

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about two main drives. Biological needs, hunger,

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thirst, sex, and external rewards or punishments.

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Skinner and all that. The behaviorist view. Precisely.

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But these monkeys weren't hungry or thirsty.

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Solving the puzzle didn't get them food or water.

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And there were absolutely no external rewards.

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No raisins, no applause, nothing. So Harlow was

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puzzled himself. He was. He wrote about it posing

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interesting questions for motivation theory.

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How could they learn and perform so well without

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any extrinsic incentives? He was genuinely scratching

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his head. So what did he propose? He suggested

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a third drive He argued the performance of the

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task provided intrinsic reward. They did it because

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doing it felt good The enjoyment was the reward

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itself. He called it intrinsic motivation a groundbreaking

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idea for the time Absolutely, but then came the

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really baffling part. He thought okay if I do

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give them a reward like a raisin, surely they'll

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do even better. Makes sense. But no, the complete

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opposite happened. When he introduced food rewards,

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the monkeys made more errors and solved the puzzles

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less often. That's astonishing. A reward made

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performance worse. He was stunned. He wrote it

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was a phenomenon not reported in the literature.

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It suggested our whole understanding was, well,

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flawed. He urged scientists to close down large

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sections of our theoretical junkyard, saying

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our explanations were actively misleading. A

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pretty strong statement, but then he didn't pursue

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it. Largely, no. He moved on to other research.

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It was controversial, challenging the core beliefs

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of the time, and maybe the pushback was too strong.

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So these crucial insights just sat there, on

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the periphery for about two decades. Incredible,

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until someone else picked it up. Yes, fast forward

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to 1969. Edward Deesing. a psychology graduate

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student at Carnegie Mellon. He had an MBA, actually,

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and suspected that both academics and businesses

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had motivation fundamentally wrong. So he wanted

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to test Harlow's idea, but with people this time.

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Spot on. He used the Soma Puzzle Cube. Quite

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a popular, tricky puzzle back then. He got university

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students, split them into two groups, A and B.

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Three one -hour sessions over three days. A very

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careful setup. Okay, so what was the structure?

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Session one, both groups just worked on puzzles

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from drawings. Then Dissy left the room for eight

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minutes saying they could do whatever they liked,

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carry on puzzling, read magazines, just sit there.

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He secretly watched them. And what happened in

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that first session? Both groups spent a similar

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amount of free time on the puzzle, about three

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or four minutes. He showed a basic level of intrinsic

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interest, you know? Right, makes sense. Then

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session two. This is where it changed. Group

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A was told they'd get paid one dollar for each

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puzzle solved. Group B, the control, got nothing.

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Now, during the eight -minute free time in this

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session, Group A, the paid group, suddenly spent

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much more time on the puzzle, over five minutes.

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Ah, so the money worked, exactly what you'd expect.

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On the surface, yes. It looked like proof that

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rewards boost engagement. But then came Day 3,

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the crucial test. What happened on Day 3? Day

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C told Group A the money had run out for that

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session, so no pay today, just like the first

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day. Now watch what happens in the free choice

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period. Group B, who were never paid, actually

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played with the puzzle a bit longer than before.

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Still interested. Okay. And Group A, the ones

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who had been paid? They spent significantly less

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time on the puzzle. Not just less than when they

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were paid, but even less than their initial unpaid

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session. Their original motivation seemed to

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have vanished. Wow. So the reward actually killed

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their interest long -term, just like Harlow's

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monkeys. Precisely. Dizzy's conclusion was stark.

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When money is used as an external reward for

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some activity, the subjects lose intrinsic interest

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for the activity. That short -term boost from

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the cash seemed to undermine the deeper inherent

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motivation. Like a sugar rush followed by a crash.

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A good analogy. Dizzy argued humans have this

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inherent tendency to seek out novelty and challenges,

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to explore and to learn. Our third drive. But

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he warned it's fragile. It needs the right conditions.

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External controls like money can crush it. So

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focusing only on external rewards can backfire

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spectacularly. It can. Deci admitted it was controversial.

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Nobody was expecting rewards would have a negative

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effect. But it launched his lifelong work challenging

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our core assumptions about motivation. And you

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can immediately see the relevance for medicine,

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can't you, if someone goes into medicine driven

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by that passion for care or the intellectual

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challenge? Exactly. What happens if we overlay

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that with purely external incentives, bonuses

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tied strictly to patient numbers or adherence

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to protocols without room for judgment? Could

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that unintentionally diminish that core intrinsic

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drive. It's a really concerning thought. Think

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about a medical student, maybe full of enthusiasm,

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loving the science, maybe even volunteering extra

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hours. Right. And then perhaps the system starts

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rewarding them, mainly for ticking boxes, completing

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specific tasks, remarks, hitting certain metrics.

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They might do the tasks, sure, short -term compliance.

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But that initial spark, that love of learning

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for its own sake. It could get dampened down,

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couldn't it? focus shifts from the fascination

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of understanding disease or connecting with a

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patient to just earning the grade or hitting

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the target. The why changes and that changes

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everything. Okay, so this leads us into what's

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often called motivation 2 .0, this sort of default

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operating system for much of the last century.

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That's a good way to put it. It's built on two

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very simple ideas really. Reward what you want

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more of, punish what you want less of, the carrot

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and the stick. And to be fair, It did work for

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certain kinds of tasks, didn't it? Oh, absolutely.

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For routine, algorithmic work, assembly lines,

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basic admin, anything where the steps are clear

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and repetitive, it was pretty effective. If you

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pay per piece, you often get more pieces. Simple

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cause and effect. But there's a massive caveat

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here, isn't there, before any of this even applies?

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Crucially, yes. You must have adequate baseline

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rewards. Fair salary, decent benefits. equitable

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compensation. If people feel fundamentally undervalued

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or insecure, forget motivation. Their focus is

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entirely on that unfairness, that anxiety. Which

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feels particularly relevant in healthcare right

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now, with workforce pressures and retention issues.

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That baseline fairness is non -negotiable. Absolutely

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vital. You can't motivate someone who feels unfairly

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treated or constantly worried about making ends

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meet. But once that baseline is met, that's when

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Motivation 2 .0 starts to show its cracks. Especially

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for complex work. Right. And you've identified

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seven key areas where it can actually backfire.

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Seven deadly flaws, as it were. That's right.

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Seven ways this traditional approach can be counterproductive,

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even harmful, particularly in fields like medicine.

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Let's start with the first one, which is quite

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striking. It can actually extinguish intrinsic

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motivation, the Sawyer Effect. Exactly. Named

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after Tom Sawyer tricking his friends into enjoying

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whitewashing a fence. Rewards can do the opposite,

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turn play into work. There was that study with

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preschoolers and drawing. Yes, leper and green.

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Kids who naturally liked drawing were split into

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groups. One group was told they'd get a certificate

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if they drew an expected reward. Another got

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a surprise certificate afterwards. A third got

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nothing. And the result? Weeks later. The kids

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who expected the award showed much less interest

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in drawing during free play than the other two

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groups. The expected reward had somehow killed

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their natural enjoyment. So it's the expectation

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of the reward that does the damage. It reframes

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the activity. Precisely. It's just the why. Imagine

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that young doctor passionate about their specialism.

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If suddenly every little thing is tied to a metric.

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or a bonus patient interactions, research output,

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even attending meetings, the focus can subtly

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shift. From the joy of the task itself to simply

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earning the reward, the satisfaction of helping

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someone, the intellectual buzz of a diagnosis

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that can get overshadowed by hitting the target.

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It fundamentally changes the experience. OK,

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flaw number two. Diminishing performance, especially

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for complex tasks. Yes. There was a study in

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India by Dan R. Reilly. People were offered low,

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medium, or high cash rewards for tasks needing

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cognitive skill, memory, games, anagrams, that

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sort of thing. And you'd think higher rewards

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equal better performance. You would. But for

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the cognitive tasks, the group offered the highest

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rewards performed the worst. They seemed to choke

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under the pressure. And it's not isolated. A

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big LSE meta -analysis found financial incentives

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often negatively impact performance on thinking

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tasks. That's deeply concerning for healthcare,

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isn't it? complex diagnosis, intricate surgery,

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research breakthroughs. These aren't routine.

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Not at all. They're heuristic, needing creativity,

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judgment, adaptability. If you put intense pressure

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on, say, the volume of patients seen or the number

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of procedures done through high stakes bonuses.

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It could narrow the focus, make people rush,

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maybe miss things. Potentially, yes. It might

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impair that careful, comprehensive thinking needed

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for the best outcomes, especially in tricky cases.

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Or hinder the collaboration needed for discovery.

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The pressure to hit the number could inadvertently

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compromise the quality. Flaw three. Crushing

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creativity. The candle problem. Glücksberg's

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classic experiment. Fix a candle to the wall

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with tacks and matches. Don't let wax drip. You

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need to realize the box holding the tacks can

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be used as a shelf. Ah, the out -of -the -box

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thinking. Literally. And when people were offered

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money for solving it quickly, they took longer.

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The reward narrowed their focus, made them less

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likely to see the creative solution. And Theresa

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Emma Beale found similar things with artists.

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Yes, her work is fascinating. Commissioned art,

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driven by external demands and rewards, was consistently

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rated less creative than the artist's non -commissioned

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passion projects, even if technically good. The

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artists felt more constrained. So the intrinsically

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motivated artists ultimately did better creatively?

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In the long run, yes, which has huge implications

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for medical innovation. If research or developing

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new treatments is driven mainly by if -then rewards

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hit this target, get this bonus, it could stifle

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the very creativity needed for real breakthroughs.

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It encourages safe bets over bold ideas. OK,

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number four, crowding out good behavior. This

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one feels quite fundamental. It does. Think about

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the Swedish blood donation study. Offering a

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small payment actually halved the number of donors

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compared to the purely voluntary group. It seemed

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to taint the altruistic act, turn something noble

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into a transaction, and that somehow lessened

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the appeal for many. And the Israeli daycare

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fines. Another classic. Fines for late pickups

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were meant to reduce lateness. Instead, late

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arrivals increased. The fine changed it from

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a moral obligation, don't inconvenience the staff,

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to a price you could pay for being late. That's

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directly relevant to medical ethics, isn't it?

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Altruism is so core to the profession. Absolutely.

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If you start incentivizing things like shorter

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consult times or hitting procedure quotas too

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heavily, does that subtly undermine the doctor's

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intrinsic drive to provide comprehensive, compassionate

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care? Does the focus shift from the patient's

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holistic needs to just efficiency or volume?

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It's a real risk. Flaw five. encouraging cheating,

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shortcuts, and unethical behavior. Yes. When

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you have narrow, high -stakes, short -term goals,

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the pressure to hit the number can become immense.

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We've seen it in sales with mis -selling, in

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finance with cooking the books. The goal restricts

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the view, as some researchers put it. And the

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potential for that in medicine is, well, worrying.

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Pressure on financial targets. waiting lists

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without enough resources, procedure quotas. It

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creates a temptation, doesn't it, to maybe cut

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corners on care quality, perhaps fudge the data

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slightly, or even, in the worst cases, engage

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in unethical billing or unnecessary procedures

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just to meet the target. The low road becomes

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appealing. Whereas intrinsic motivation, wanting

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to learn, help patients do your best, doesn't

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offer shortcuts. Exactly. The goal is the high

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road. Number six, creating addiction. Rewards

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can be addictive. In a sense, yes. Once you offer

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a reward for something, people expect it. And

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often you need bigger rewards over time to get

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the same effect. Brian Knudsen's fMRI studies

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showed anticipating money lights up the nucleus

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accumbens. The brain's reward center. Same area

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involved in drug addiction. The very same. That

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dopamine hit. It suggests a potentially compulsive

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loop can be created. So for professionals, constantly

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chasing bonuses or recognition could become a

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treadmill. It could. Satisfaction becomes fleeting,

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always needing the next external hit, which can

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lead straight to burnout or deep dissatisfaction

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if those rewards aren't there or aren't enough.

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It makes fulfillment dependent on something external.

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And finally, number seven, fostering short -term

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thinking. Yes, rewards tend to narrow focus onto

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the immediate game, like companies obsessed with

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quarterly earnings, sacrificing long -term R

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&D. And in healthcare. It could mean focusing

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on immediate metrics, discharge rates, short

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-term cost savings while neglecting long -term

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patient health, preventive care, or building

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sustainable systems. So incentivizing quick discharges

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might mean less time for patient education that

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prevents future problems. Or focusing only on

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acute treatment rather than investing in community

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health that prevents illness in the first place.

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It shifts focus from the patient's lifelong well

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-being to just the next measurable event, a very

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short -term view. Right, so we've painted a fairly

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bleak picture of traditional rewards in many

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contexts, but it's not all bad, is it? You're

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not saying get rid of all extrinsic motivators.

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Oh, absolutely not. That would be throwing the

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baby out with the bathwater. The science is more

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nuanced. There are specific situations where

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carrots and sticks do work, and understanding

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that is crucial for health care settings. Okay,

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so when do they work? The big exception is for

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routine tasks. Remember, Gluckberg's Campbell

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problem. When he made it easy, took the tax out

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of the box, making the solution obvious, the

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rewarded group solved it faster. Because it wasn't

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a creative challenge anymore, just execution.

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Exactly. It became an algorithmic routine. And

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the core principle here is rewards don't undermine

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intrinsic motivation for dull tasks, because

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Well, there's usually very little intrinsic motivation

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there to undermine in the first place. Ah, right.

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So for things like straightforward data entry,

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basic admin, repetitive lab procedures. Precisely.

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Tasks that don't require much creativity or passion,

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just accuracy and efficiency. For those, if -then

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incentives or higher pay can genuinely lead to

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better performance without those negative side

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effects we talked about. Okay, that's a really

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important distinction. And even when using rewards

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for these routine tasks, are there ways to do

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it better? Yes, definitely. Three key practices

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help. First, offer a clear rationale. Explain

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why the task matters, even if it's dull. Like

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this accurate data entry is vital for patient

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safety and care quality. Exactly. Give it context,

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link it to the bigger purpose. It makes even

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mundane work feel more significant. Second, acknowledge

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the task might be boring. Just be honest about

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it. Yes. Say something like, look, we know this

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paperwork isn't exciting, but it's necessary.

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And we really appreciate you doing it diligently.

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It shows respect, validates their experience.

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And third? Allow autonomy over technique where

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possible. Even for routine stuff. Don't dictate

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every single step if you don't have to. So these

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reports need finishing by 5 p .m. You figure

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out the best workflow. That sort of thing. Giving

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even a small amount of control over the How can

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boost engagement and satisfaction significantly?

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Okay, so that's routine tasks. What about the

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non -routine creative conceptual work? Developing

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new techniques, complex research, innovative

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patient programs. If then rewards are still risky

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there? Extremely risky. That's where they narrow

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focus and stifle creativity. For that kind of

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work, if you want to use rewards, the approach

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needs to be different. We call it now that rewards.

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Now that? How does that work? These are rewards

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given after the task is complete. unexpectedly,

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and not contingent on hitting a specific pre

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-agreed target. More like a bonus or a thank

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you after great work has already been done. So

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not, if you do this, then you'll get that. But

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now that you've done such great work, here's

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a token of appreciation. Precisely. For example,

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now that your team has navigated that incredibly

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complex case so brilliantly, let's celebrate

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with a team lunch. It's recognition, not an incentive

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that drove the behavior. So it's much less likely

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to undermine intrinsic motivation. And within

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those, now that rewards, non -tangible ones are

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powerful. Hugely powerful. First, specific, sincere

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praise and positive feedback. Offered privately,

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ideally, not just good job, but detailed comments

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on what was good. The insights shown, the empathy

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demonstrated, the skill applied. That really

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lands and boosts intrinsic drive. It affirms

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their competence. Exactly. And second, Useful

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informational feedback, not just hitting targets,

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but feedback that helps them learn and grow.

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For a researcher, detailed comments on methodology

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or the potential impact of the work is far more

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motivating long term than just a check mark for

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publishing. It feeds into mastery. So it's about

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using rewards thoughtfully, strategically, and

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often shifting from if -then to now -that, especially

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for complex work. That's the key takeaway. Nuance

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is everything. Right. We've explored the pitfalls

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of Motivation 2 .0 and the nuances of rewards.

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Now let's pivot to Motivation 3 .0. This is the

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row, the upgraded operating system. You could

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say that. It's built on a much deeper, more scientifically

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sound understanding of what truly drives us.

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It fosters what we call type I behavior. Type

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I behavior. Yes. Behavior that's fueled by intrinsic

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desires. The inherent satisfaction of the activity

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itself. It leads to better performance. better

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health, greater well -being overall. It's the

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opposite of type X, which is all about the external

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rewards. And crucially, type I isn't something

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you're born with. No, it's made, not born. The

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environment, the organizational culture is absolutely

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key. Organizations can choose to create conditions

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where type I behavior flourishes, or they can

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stifle it. And the science points to three core

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elements, three essential nutrients for this.

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That's right. The pillars of motivation 3 .0

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are autonomy, mastery, and purpose. When these

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three are present, people thrive. Let's break

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those down, starting with autonomy. Autonomy

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is fundamentally the desire to direct our own

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lives, to feel we have choice, volition. Self

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-determination theory highlights it as perhaps

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the most crucial of our basic psychological needs,

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feeling like you're in the driving seat, not

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just a pawn. And the evidence supports its impact.

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strongly. Studies show organizations offering

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more autonomy tend to grow faster, have lower

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turnover. There's a clear link between having

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decision latitude and job satisfaction. which

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is vital for retaining skilled professionals

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like those in medicine. So how does autonomy

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translate into practical terms in a healthcare

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setting? You mentioned four T's. Yes, a useful

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framework. First is task autonomy having some

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say over what you work on. Think of 3M's 15 %

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time for personal projects. For clinicians, maybe

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it's protected time for a research interest,

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a quality improvement project they initiate,

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or developing patient resources they see a need

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for. giving space for that self -directed work.

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Exactly. Second, time autonomy, having some control

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over when work happens, moving away from rigid

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clock watching towards more flexibility where

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possible. Flexible clinic hours, maybe more use

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of telemedicine scheduled thoughtfully, respecting

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people's peak working times rather than enforcing

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rigid shifts for everyone. Challenging in healthcare,

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but important. Third is technique. Autonomy over

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how the work is done. Like Zamos, empowering

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call center staff to use their judgment, not

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scripts. For clinicians, it means trusting their

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professional expertise, allowing individual style

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and empathy in patient care, not enforcing overly

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rigid protocols that stifle nuance and the art

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of medicine, respecting their judgment, and the

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fourth T. Team autonomy, having some agency over

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who you work with, like teams having input on

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new hires or encouraging self -warning groups

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for projects based on shared interest rather

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than purely top -down assignments. Imagine the

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synergy in a team that genuinely chose to work

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together. So for leaders, it's about actively

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looking for ways to increase autonomy across

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these four areas, maybe even asking staff directly.

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An autonomy audit could be very revealing, surveying

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the team. And crucially, leaders need to consciously

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relinquish control, where appropriate, involve

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people in setting goals, and use non -controlling

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language, shift from managing to people to creating

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conditions for them. Okay, that's autonomy. The

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second pillar is mastery. Yes, the urge to get

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better and better at something that matters.

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As we said, control leads to compliance. But

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autonomy unlocks engagement. And it's only engagement

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that fuels the drive for mastery. Which is essential

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in medicine, just complying isn't enough. Not

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nearly enough. Mastery is about striving for

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excellence. And a key part of this is experiencing

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flow. That concept from Millie Sikcentmihalyi.

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Those moments of complete absorption. Exactly.

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The surgeon focused on a tricky procedure. The

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diagnostician piecing together clues. The nurse

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managing a critical situation almost instinctively.

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Time disappears. The challenge matches the skill

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and the activity itself is deeply rewarding.

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Sikcentmihalyi found denying people flow actually

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caused psychological distress. It's that fundamental.

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So how do we foster mastery? You mentioned Goldilocks

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tasks. Right. Tasks that are not too easy, boring,

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not too hard, anxiety -provoking, but just right.

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Stretching capability slightly. In medicine,

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that means ensuring people get appropriately

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challenging cases, chances to learn new skills,

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development opportunities that push them gently.

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And deliberate practice. Crucial. Mastery takes

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hard work over time. Anders Ericsson's work showed

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this. Focused effort, seeking feedback, working

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on weaknesses, Think surgical simulations, refining

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clinical skills, case reviews. It's often the

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consistent effort on the mundane details that

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builds true excellence. And finally, the mastery

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asymptote. This is the idea that complete mastery

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is something you approach but never quite reach,

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like an asymptote in maths, especially in a field

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like medicine that's always evolving. So you

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never fully arrive. Not really. But understanding

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that can be liberating. The joy, the motivation

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comes from the pursuit itself, the continuous

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learning and improvement. It fuels lifelong learning

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and resilience, acknowledging that perfection

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isn't the goal, progress is. So organizations

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need to create opportunities for that flow, those

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Goldilocks tasks that deliberate practice. Yes,

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build a culture where striving for mastery is

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supported and celebrated. Protected time for

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learning, mentorship, challenging assignments.

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And the third pillar, purpose. The final leg

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of the tripod. Purpose is the yearning to contribute

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to something larger than ourselves. It gives

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context and meaning to autonomy and mastery.

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Why are we directing ourselves? Why are we striving

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to get better? Purpose provides the answer. And

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this feels particularly relevant now. Very much

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so. There's this sense, perhaps partly demographic

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with boomers reflecting, but maybe broader too,

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of people asking, what really matters? How can

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I make a difference? A real hunger for purpose.

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How does this contrast with older models? Well,

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Motivation 2 .0 often defaulted to profit maximization

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as the main goal. Motivation 3 .0 talks about

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purpose maximization, where profit is seen as

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a catalyst for achieving a larger purpose, not

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the end goal itself. Think of social enterprises,

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B Corp. And healthcare inherently has a purpose,

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doesn't it? Absolutely. Healing. Care. Discovery.

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It's profoundly purposeful. The challenge for

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organizations is to genuinely live that purpose,

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articulate it beyond just the financial numbers.

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Focus on community health, equity, patient outcomes

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as the real drivers. How can organizations ignite

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that sense of purpose? Through words and policies.

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Robert Reich's pronoun test is insightful. Do

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staff say we or they when talking about the organization?

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We suggest shared purpose. Leaders need to consistently

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use purpose -driven language. Talking about the

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mission, the commitment to patients. Exactly.

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And policy -wise. Things like pro -social spending,

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letting staff have input on charitable donations.

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Or that Mayo Clinic finding doctors spending

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just one day a week on their most meaningful

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work had half the burnout rate. That's incredible.

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Like 20 % time with a purpose. Precisely. directly

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linking well -being to purpose. And finally,

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it connects to the idea of the good life and

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having the right goals. The Rochester study.

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Yes, following graduates. Those pursuing intrinsic

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goals, personal growth, helping others, community

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reported much higher well -being than those who

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achieved extrinsic goals like wealth or fame,

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even if they were successful by external standards.

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The external stuff just didn't deliver the same

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deep satisfaction. So for medical professionals,

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while fair pay is essential, the real long -term

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drivers of well -being are that sense of purpose

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making an impact, continuous learning, and mastery.

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That's what the science strongly suggests. Those

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intrinsic factors are far more vital for a sustained,

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fulfilling career than just chasing external

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rewards. The meaning is in the work itself. So

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wrapping up our deep dive today, we've really

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journeyed from the limitations of the old carrot

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and stick model, Motivation 2 .0. To a much richer

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understanding, Motivation 3 .0. Built on our

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innate human needs for autonomy, mastery, and

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purpose. And embracing this isn't just theoretical.

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It's the key, isn't it, to unlocking higher performance,

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better well -being, and genuine fulfillment,

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especially in a field as vital as medicine. It

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really is. It's about creating an environment

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where people's inherent drive can flourish rather

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than just trying to control behavior with external

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levers. If you found this deep dive valuable,

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please do consider rating and sharing with colleagues

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who might also find these insights helpful. And

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perhaps a final thought to leave you with. In

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a healthcare landscape that desperately needs

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innovation, compassion, and resilience, how can

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we as practitioners, as leaders, actively ensure

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that our own drive and the drive of our teams

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is truly fueled by that deep sense of purpose

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and satisfaction, not just by external pressures

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to build the healthiest possible future?
