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I'm pretty sure I started like rubbing on his

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dick in the cab on the way there. And then we

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were like making out a little bit and stuff and

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just feeling around. So anyways, it was like

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a ways. It was a ways away. But it was late at

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night, thankfully. So we get there. It's this

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super nice apartment building, you know, has

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the doorman and everything and locked and got

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to have a key card and a code and all this stuff

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older. Welcome to the Siren of Freedom podcast,

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sounding the alarm by bringing clarity and freedom

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to the realm of sexuality. Our aim is to give

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others a place to share their stories and release

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themselves from the weight of shame and guilt.

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Welcome to another night with the Siren of Freedom.

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And tonight we're doing one of our favorite segments,

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Slut Diaries. And we were just sitting out in

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the hot tub, me and my hubby and producer, Socrates.

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Say hello, babe. Hey, y 'all. Hey. So we're just

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sitting in the hot tub and I was like, man, we're

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doing Slut Diaries tonight. And I was like, what

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story should I tell? And what did I say, babe?

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New York, New York, big city of dreams. So, man,

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this must have been 2016. Hold up, hold up. Before

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we get into that, what's going on with life?

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You know, I want to start like. We don't need

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to get down to business every time. I do like

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to get down to business. What's been exciting

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recently? You don't have to get into too many

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details because it can be a slut diary story

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later, but what's been going on with you in your

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sexual journey recently that you can share with

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people that's helped you enjoy sex better or

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helped you mentally or emotionally or anything

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like that? Well, it's sexual, but it's like not

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sexual. It can be taken many different directions.

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But I've realized recently that I really enjoy

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being blindfolded in a variety of situations.

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And so much so, like I wear an eye mask every

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single night when I sleep, if I take a nap. And

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during sex sometimes. So I enjoy it when Socrates

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will blindfold me. Sometimes he'll take me little

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places around the house and do things. But I

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think it just ultimately helps my brain relax

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and really enjoy the experience. Whereas I think

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some people, that freaks them out. I totally

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get it. But for me, just like taking away one

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of the senses just helps me chill out. You know,

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where we've also done some things where I've

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had noise -canceling headphones on or headphones

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and play soft music and be blindfolded while

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doing some sexual things with softies. So I just

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really like that the sensory deprivation helps

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me to relax and to enjoy the experience more.

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Nice, nice, nice, nice. Tell me, then we'll get

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on to your story, New York, New York. Tell me

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how that's helped you in just regular day, everyday

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life. Well, so much so I decided I'm probably

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going to carry a blindfold with me. And, you

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know, if I'm sitting somewhere, say I get to

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an appointment early, like 10 minutes early,

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I'm going to set a timer. And I'm going to put

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a blindfold on and the soft music or maybe some

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affirmations and just give myself a brain break

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instead of sitting in the car scrolling TikTok

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for 10 minutes or going in and talking to people.

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Sometimes I just can take it as a midday decompression.

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And so that will help with my anxiety that I

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have. So that's how I think it'll it'll translate

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into everyday life as well. All right, New York.

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So I think we talked, we definitely talked about

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2017 in another episode, but we're dialing it

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back a year before that. I had just started traveling

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on my own. I basically was like, fuck it. Nobody's

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ready to go anywhere. Too much coordination with

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my friends. You know, of course I went. places

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with my children. But as a single mom, I was

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like, I just need to get out of here. And one

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of my clients had told me a story about how they

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were preparing to retire. They had everything

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lined up, this beautiful home, and they were

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going to go travel. They had all these travel

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plans. And then they got hit by a drunk driver.

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And the husband was now wheelchair bound and

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she had a whole bunch of physical issues from

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it. And I was telling her like how I was planning

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to go and travel, you know, someday when, you

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know, save up the money, all these things. And

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then she just took me by the hands and she looked

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at me with tears in her eyes and she said, sweetheart,

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don't wait. And so I had always wanted to go

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to New York City. So. I booked a plane ticket,

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like, the next day. And I just booked it, you

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know, back then I was pre -broke. So I had enough

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money, I booked the ticket. And then I booked

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it for a few months out, and then I, you know,

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hustled and did extra stuff and got an Airbnb

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in downtown Manhattan. Beautiful place. Uh, I'll

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never do a three story up on the third floor.

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There was no elevator hauling my bag up there.

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So I, I fly into JFK is atrocious. Like the traffic,

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everything I'd never, I'd never been there. It

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never does the biggest city I've ever been to,

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you know, and I really hadn't been to anything

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too crazy before that LA a little bit, but not

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too much. So it's It is forever to get an Uber.

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I don't know what it said, like 45 minutes or

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something. And I just didn't, I had no idea it

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would be that bad. So then I'm looking and it

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says like Uber Black, you know, so it's like

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a Cadillac Escalade will come get you and this

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whole thing. Well, it was like double the price,

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but it was like 10 minutes. So I was like, heck

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yeah, like time is money, right? And I wanted

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to get to my Airbnb. And it was probably some

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stupid time like rush hour on a Friday or something

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crazy because it took like two hours at least,

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I think, to get from JFK to downtown Manhattan.

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And then I get there and it was a nice guy that

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had the Airbnb. We each had our own bedroom and

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our own bathroom and it was beautiful. It was

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a beautiful apartment. Super nice guy. I can't

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remember where he said he was from, but African

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guy. And he had lots of great tips. And no, I'll

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just spoiler alert, I did not hook up with him.

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So that's not where the story is going. No, just

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a super nice guy. I think he likes thinner women

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because I was showing him some pictures of my

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friends. And he's like, oh, next time bring your

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friends. And I was like, I see where you're going.

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To each his own, right? So for fun, I was like,

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let me get on the dating apps. So I'm pretty

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sure I just got on Tinder while I was there.

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And I was like, let's see what the big city has

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to offer. Like, you know, from where I'm from,

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it's not very diverse. So I'm like, okay, this

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will be awesome because there's just every shade

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of the rainbow out there. So I was really excited.

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I swipe and I am just like overwhelmed. There

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is like every guy on there is hot. And I'm just

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like, are these all just like models or like

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what's going on? And as you know, I prefer black

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men and was no different at that time. And so,

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man, I'm just swiping. I'm matching with like

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every guy. And I'm just like, what is going on?

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You know, as most ladies know that have been

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on those apps, you kind of just got to weed through

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people. Some people in media are like, what the

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fuck, you know, and all that. And I wasn't, I

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wasn't quite ready to go for that, but I was

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just wanting to have an adventure. So I talked

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to like a few guys, some of them, the logistics

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just didn't work out. Well, there was a guy,

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um, I'm just say his name because it's like,

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who cares? It's like, there's probably a thousand

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Vincents in New York city, but his name was Vincent.

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He's like, OK, so we talked for like a couple

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of days and he's like, what day are you free?

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I can't remember which day I was there for like

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four or five days in New York City. And so we

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picked a day. I think it was on the weekend.

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And he's like, meet me at this one bar. And it

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was like a rooftop bar. So it was super cool.

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I was like looking at the city like this guy

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knew what he was doing. But I didn't I didn't

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ask him how tall he was. So, and height doesn't

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matter. I just like to know ahead of time. So

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if I'm looking for a short king or a tall king.

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But he was probably about 5 '6". And I am 5 '8

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without heels. And I wore heels that night. So

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it was whatever. Didn't bother him. I just took

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me a second and then I just, you know, rolled

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on through. Nice conversation. Nice place. Paid

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for everything. You know, our drinks. And...

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He just told me to, you know, do you trust me

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to plan the date for the evening? I said, yeah,

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don't live here. Like, sure, go for it. So we

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met at the rooftop bar, had a couple drinks,

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look over the city. And then he's like, okay,

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are you ready? And there was people eating there.

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So I thought, oh, we're going to eat here, you

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know. He's like, nope, nope, we're going somewhere

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else to eat. And I was like, all right. So we

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got a cab and then we go to this place called

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Eataly. Have you heard of it, babe? Okay, so

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it's a market, like an Italian market, and right

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in the middle of the market is a restaurant.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's like you're just sitting

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in the middle of everything. It's super cool.

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Yeah. And so we got a bunch of weird food that

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now I know is just glorified charcuterie. At

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the time, I was like, what is all this weird

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food? But it was charcuterie. It was prosciutto,

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right? So I can't even say it. All these cheeses

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and things. And I was like, that's kind of weird.

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Like I would rather just had a steak, but I wasn't

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going to complain, right? I'm going on a free

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date. So it was like, I feel like we just ate

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appetizers or something, but apparently it was

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supposed to be a whole meal. And it was like

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$275. And the drinks were like a hundred and

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something. And this guy is just like peeling

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out the cash, like no big deal. I'm like, all

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right, whatever, you know. And then he's like,

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do you want to go do the next thing? And I was

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like, there's a next thing? This is awesome.

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So we go to the meatpacking district. And we

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go to this little underground salsa club. And

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it was just packed with people. And it was super

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dark and super hot and sweaty. But, like, it

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was so fun. it didn't even matter that I wasn't

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a good dancer like guys would just grab you spin

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you around like just do the whole thing it was

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so fun so we had a ton of fun there and by the

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end of it I'm like oh this is awesome like we

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are three for three on good things and then um

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he's like okay he's like are you I'm getting

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kind of tired you ready to go and it was like

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two or three in the morning by that point and

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I'm like sure yeah so we go to leave and Then

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he's like, well, where do you want to go? And

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I was like, oh, I thought you were planning the

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date. So like, what are we doing now? And he's

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like, well, I'd like to take you back. And, you

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know, they always say, show me the apartment.

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Like, we don't care what your apartment looks

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like. And then I'm pretty sure I started like

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rubbing on his dick in the cab on the way there.

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And then we were like making out a little bit

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and stuff and just feeling around. So anyways,

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it was like a ways. It was a ways away. But it

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was late at night, thankfully. So we get there.

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It's this super nice apartment building, you

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know, has the doorman and everything and locked

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and got to have a key card and a code and all

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this stuff and fancy flowers in the foyer. I

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had brought a little spending night purse just

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in case because, you know, I was like, I don't

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know how this is going to go. So I was ready

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for whatever. And we go upstairs and it's a super

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nice apartment. Like all these glass windows,

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like some you see out of the movies, but not

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quite so big. It wasn't huge. It was like a one

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bedroom, one bathroom, living room, kitchen,

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but lots. But his bed wasn't put together. It

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was like a mattress and box spring. And then

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the pieces were like, he's like, I just got my

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bed. He's like, I just moved in here. And I was

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like, oh, OK, well, that makes sense. No big

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deal. You know, I met I've met lots of guys just

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moved in places. It's not a big deal. So I go

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and I use the restroom. I'm like, oh, this place

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pretty clean. It should be. You just moved in.

00:16:00.909 --> 00:16:05.419
Right. And go back in the bedroom and. We start

00:16:05.419 --> 00:16:07.740
messing around, take our clothes off and all

00:16:07.740 --> 00:16:13.460
the things. And I, well, he, I'm pretty sure

00:16:13.460 --> 00:16:16.519
he went down on me at that point. And then, you

00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:18.299
know, then I was like sucking his dick and just

00:16:18.299 --> 00:16:20.019
doing all things, but he just like, wasn't getting

00:16:20.019 --> 00:16:23.399
hard. And I was like, okay, well maybe like,

00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:26.440
it's because he did drink, but I was like, not

00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:29.720
that much, like two. I was like, and this is

00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:31.299
when I was pretty new to the whole life. So I

00:16:31.299 --> 00:16:34.600
wasn't used to. especially just like one night

00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:37.360
stand things like guys not getting hard because

00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:40.799
usually by that point they're like ready to go

00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:43.899
because it's been a while or you know if you're

00:16:43.899 --> 00:16:49.500
just prowling the bars um so I keep trying to

00:16:49.500 --> 00:16:52.179
work on it you know help him out whatever and

00:16:52.179 --> 00:16:58.039
then he just starts crying and I was like okay

00:16:59.129 --> 00:17:02.210
Well, slow down now. What kind of crying are

00:17:02.210 --> 00:17:04.710
we talking about? Are we talking about boo -hoo?

00:17:04.950 --> 00:17:08.450
Like, are we talking about a little teardrop

00:17:08.450 --> 00:17:11.789
fell on the edge of his eye? Like, what are we

00:17:11.789 --> 00:17:15.750
talking? No, like boo -hoo. Like sobbing. He

00:17:15.750 --> 00:17:18.190
just starts sniffing. And first I was like, oh,

00:17:18.190 --> 00:17:20.049
just kind of like sneeze or something. And then

00:17:20.049 --> 00:17:22.470
he starts, no, like crying, like boo -hooing.

00:17:23.130 --> 00:17:30.680
And I said, um, are you okay? I was like did

00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:33.700
I hurt you or something and he's like no and

00:17:33.700 --> 00:17:37.119
so I kind of just leave it alone and I crawl

00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:39.859
up next to him and he like buries his face in

00:17:39.859 --> 00:17:43.079
my chest and is just sobbing and he's like I'm

00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:45.400
really sorry I think I'm just having trouble

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and I was like that's fine you know I've heard

00:17:49.259 --> 00:17:51.220
these things can happen because I think that

00:17:51.220 --> 00:17:53.480
was like my first time having an experience like

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that and he's like I said, well, you know, sometimes

00:17:59.289 --> 00:18:00.990
we all have trouble. He's like, I just can't

00:18:00.990 --> 00:18:02.890
get my mind right. We had such a good night.

00:18:03.470 --> 00:18:05.210
You know, I said, yeah, we did. We had a great

00:18:05.210 --> 00:18:08.630
night. And he's like, I think the problem is,

00:18:08.650 --> 00:18:13.490
is that it's my ex -wife's birthday. And I miss

00:18:13.490 --> 00:18:20.230
her so much. Okay. What do you think of that?

00:18:24.140 --> 00:18:27.079
Was he crying and saying this at the same time?

00:18:27.460 --> 00:18:33.220
Yeah. Sobbing into my chest. And I don't even

00:18:33.220 --> 00:18:35.619
know if they were divorced yet because it's like

00:18:35.619 --> 00:18:38.539
he just moved in that apartment, right? So I

00:18:38.539 --> 00:18:46.740
think, you know, it was fresh. And I was like,

00:18:46.839 --> 00:18:49.519
and you know what? I'll tell another story another

00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:52.859
day, but that is not the first time that a guy.

00:18:55.090 --> 00:19:01.029
cried during sex and I'm not shaming it at all

00:19:01.029 --> 00:19:04.109
but I'm just like sometimes you just don't know

00:19:04.109 --> 00:19:08.109
like what people are going through you know and

00:19:08.109 --> 00:19:10.730
although it's very awkward I just tried really

00:19:10.730 --> 00:19:15.609
hard not to like make it any worse right so then

00:19:15.609 --> 00:19:20.609
he kind of you know gets it out and calms himself

00:19:20.609 --> 00:19:24.549
down And he's like, okay, well, I just want to

00:19:24.549 --> 00:19:27.069
try again. And I'm like, I'm not in the mood

00:19:27.069 --> 00:19:30.769
at this point. But I'm kind of like, well, whatever.

00:19:31.150 --> 00:19:33.569
And I think to myself, this is going to be a

00:19:33.569 --> 00:19:37.529
good story for the girls. So I just keep doing

00:19:37.529 --> 00:19:41.869
whatever. So I end up, and you know, babe, before

00:19:41.869 --> 00:19:43.549
I got my boob job, I didn't really have a lot

00:19:43.549 --> 00:19:46.450
of boobs. But somehow I titty fucked this man.

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And he just came on my boobs. And then that was

00:19:50.130 --> 00:19:53.490
like it. And then he leaves the room and I'm

00:19:53.490 --> 00:19:56.529
just laying there with his jizz all over my chest.

00:19:56.609 --> 00:20:00.809
Like, what the fuck am I doing? Like, what the

00:20:00.809 --> 00:20:03.950
fuck am I doing? And he goes out to the living

00:20:03.950 --> 00:20:06.170
room and then I immediately pick up my phone

00:20:06.170 --> 00:20:08.930
and I text my two best girls at the time. Mallory,

00:20:09.049 --> 00:20:10.950
which you guys have heard about in another episode.

00:20:12.049 --> 00:20:15.250
And then this other girl will call her Jennifer.

00:20:16.430 --> 00:20:19.150
And I'm just like telling them what's going on.

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And they're like. And I'm like, I don't know

00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:25.740
what to do. Like, I feel awkward as fuck. I have

00:20:25.740 --> 00:20:28.859
jizz on my chest. Like, what should I? He went

00:20:28.859 --> 00:20:31.359
in the other room. I don't know, like, what he's

00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:33.279
doing. I don't know what to say. This is just

00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:36.039
so, I've never been in this situation. And they're

00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:38.619
like, just get up and leave, bitch. And I'm like,

00:20:38.740 --> 00:20:42.259
oh, okay, yeah. But I just didn't know what was

00:20:42.259 --> 00:20:43.980
going to happen, right? I didn't think he was

00:20:43.980 --> 00:20:45.519
going to get mad or anything. I was just like,

00:20:45.740 --> 00:20:48.220
I don't want to have that. Oh, that was great

00:20:48.220 --> 00:20:51.839
conversation. But thankfully when I got up and

00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:54.940
like went to the bathroom to clean up, he was

00:20:54.940 --> 00:20:57.920
on the couch, which is a buck ass naked, like

00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:01.140
passed out, just passed out. And so I was like,

00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:03.599
Oh sweet. So I like hurried, went in the bathroom,

00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:06.539
like cleaned up. And then I just put on my little

00:21:06.539 --> 00:21:10.839
pajamas that I had brought like these little

00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:13.599
short shorts and a little tank top. Right. And

00:21:13.599 --> 00:21:15.759
then shoved it, my shoes and everything. No,

00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:17.380
I think I had my shoes in my hand, you know,

00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:20.180
typical. run of shame is what I would call this

00:21:20.180 --> 00:21:23.380
and I was like I just gotta get out of here because

00:21:23.380 --> 00:21:26.900
I don't want him to wake up and I called an Uber

00:21:26.900 --> 00:21:31.059
on my phone and then I go downstairs and the

00:21:31.059 --> 00:21:37.380
door guy was like oh and I said don't ask don't

00:21:37.380 --> 00:21:39.740
ask and he's like have a good night and he's

00:21:39.740 --> 00:21:41.480
like do you have a safe ride home he was like

00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:43.680
really nice I said yeah the Uber's coming to

00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:47.940
get me so the best part was that When I left

00:21:47.940 --> 00:21:51.059
and got in the Uber, it was that Uber driver's

00:21:51.059 --> 00:21:54.619
first night ever driving Uber. And I told him

00:21:54.619 --> 00:21:57.460
the entire story. And then he just was like,

00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:00.440
this is wow. Is this what every night driving

00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:06.519
Uber is going to be like? Oh, I don't know. So

00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:10.660
it was pretty funny. But then I think right when

00:22:10.660 --> 00:22:12.599
I got in the Uber, like he woke up and he started

00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:14.680
texting me. Where'd you go? Why'd you leave?

00:22:16.250 --> 00:22:20.809
And I was just like, I'm just really tired. I'm

00:22:20.809 --> 00:22:24.970
going to go back to my Airbnb. He's like, okay,

00:22:25.029 --> 00:22:27.289
well maybe we can have a picnic tomorrow and

00:22:27.289 --> 00:22:30.349
I'll make it up to you. He's like, I'd like to

00:22:30.349 --> 00:22:32.769
do that since it's my ex -wife's birthday. I

00:22:32.769 --> 00:22:34.950
want to do something fun and not think about

00:22:34.950 --> 00:22:38.730
her. And I was like. I am not going on a picnic

00:22:38.730 --> 00:22:40.829
with you. But I probably just told him some bullshit,

00:22:40.910 --> 00:22:43.569
like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the next

00:22:43.569 --> 00:22:47.009
day, tomorrow, whatever, I got too busy, magically,

00:22:47.509 --> 00:22:51.369
mysteriously, and just blew him off because I

00:22:51.369 --> 00:22:53.890
was like, this is too weird. I'm sorry you're

00:22:53.890 --> 00:22:55.690
going through this with your ex -wife, but, like,

00:22:55.710 --> 00:23:00.269
it was too weird for me. I couldn't do it. Have

00:23:00.269 --> 00:23:02.769
you ever had anything super weird like that happen?

00:23:03.509 --> 00:23:06.089
I feel like you have some sort of slut story.

00:23:08.539 --> 00:23:13.680
along those lines no nothing weird ever happened

00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:22.700
to you like I don't know just married women hitting

00:23:22.700 --> 00:23:24.500
on me or something like that besides that no

00:23:24.500 --> 00:23:30.920
oh that's boring yeah I don't have a lot of weird

00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:34.160
stories I really don't I guess I'm fortunate

00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:37.799
I don't have a lot of weird or like Horror stories

00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:43.259
when it comes to sex. Yeah, I'm glad. Maybe men

00:23:43.259 --> 00:23:46.079
are just a little bit. I don't know how many

00:23:46.079 --> 00:23:49.259
guys I've heard tell me anything bad because

00:23:49.259 --> 00:23:51.119
guys don't want to seem like they complain about

00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:53.079
it because then they're really not getting it

00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:57.839
from the female community. I don't know. But

00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:00.579
women, we tell each other all the stories. If

00:24:00.579 --> 00:24:03.099
it's good, if it's really good, a lot of times

00:24:03.099 --> 00:24:07.559
in those days, I would not. tell people, I would

00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:10.140
just be like, oh, it's really good. But if it

00:24:10.140 --> 00:24:12.579
was bad, oh, you're getting all the details.

00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:15.940
Especially if it was your man. You weren't, like,

00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:21.819
telling everything about it. Why not? Because

00:24:21.819 --> 00:24:24.539
that was, like, your man, and then you weren't

00:24:24.539 --> 00:24:28.480
gonna, like, tell other bitches about him. Why

00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:32.380
not? Because that's mine. What's gonna happen?

00:24:32.539 --> 00:24:35.420
I wanna dig deep into this mystery that women...

00:24:36.649 --> 00:24:38.549
Like, I've heard this over and over and over.

00:24:38.650 --> 00:24:40.589
If he's bad, oh, we're going to tell you everything.

00:24:41.089 --> 00:24:44.809
But the better he is, the least information.

00:24:45.190 --> 00:24:49.369
Because their women aren't really that excited

00:24:49.369 --> 00:24:51.369
because they're like, oh, that's your man and,

00:24:51.430 --> 00:24:53.829
like, that's cool for you. They almost get jealous.

00:24:55.349 --> 00:24:57.329
But you tell a bad story, they're like, yeah,

00:24:57.349 --> 00:25:00.730
bitch, I've been there. Like, fuck men. You know?

00:25:01.130 --> 00:25:05.170
Whatever. Like, there's some camaraderie in that.

00:25:05.269 --> 00:25:09.589
And then in the good stories, they're like, fuck

00:25:09.589 --> 00:25:14.329
you, bitch. You got a good guy. He takes care

00:25:14.329 --> 00:25:19.630
of you. Or the classic, does he have a brother

00:25:19.630 --> 00:25:25.309
comment? Stuff like that. So that was New York

00:25:25.309 --> 00:25:28.569
City. I also went to the Museum of Sex while

00:25:28.569 --> 00:25:31.369
I was there. And that was very eye -opening.

00:25:32.170 --> 00:25:36.809
I went with a woman that I met online at, it

00:25:36.809 --> 00:25:40.670
was a group called The Woman Hole on Facebook

00:25:40.670 --> 00:25:45.410
and they tell lots of crazy sexual stories. And

00:25:45.410 --> 00:25:47.529
so she was on there and she's like, I live in

00:25:47.529 --> 00:25:48.990
New York City. I said, I'd love to meet up for

00:25:48.990 --> 00:25:51.089
lunch. And she's like, yeah, let's go to the

00:25:51.089 --> 00:25:54.190
Museum of Sex. So that's really interesting because

00:25:54.190 --> 00:25:56.710
it has like all the birth control contraptions,

00:25:56.750 --> 00:25:59.869
all different kinds of sex toys through the ages.

00:26:01.289 --> 00:26:06.869
um like drawn pornography I guess and then books

00:26:06.869 --> 00:26:10.750
from like old novels and stuff and then just

00:26:10.750 --> 00:26:13.609
talks about you know animals versus humans and

00:26:13.609 --> 00:26:16.190
their sex lives and all kinds of interesting

00:26:16.190 --> 00:26:19.329
things and then there's even a bounce house that

00:26:19.329 --> 00:26:23.009
has a bunch of inflatable boobs in it and you

00:26:23.009 --> 00:26:26.630
can bounce around in inflatable booby world which

00:26:26.630 --> 00:26:30.079
we did not do because it was extra And I was

00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.279
like, eh, that's fine. We peeked in there at

00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:36.799
people bouncing around on the boobs. New York

00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:38.660
City was really fun. But that was the only guy.

00:26:39.380 --> 00:26:41.720
After that, I was like, that's a good enough

00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:45.740
story. Now, if I went, like, nowadays and was

00:26:45.740 --> 00:26:48.779
single, I would be a lot more crazy than that,

00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:51.599
I think. I'd try to have a new guy every night

00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:54.220
or something. But I was tired. I was tired from

00:26:54.220 --> 00:26:58.160
walking around and... Doing all the things and

00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:03.539
riding a bike all around the city. So by the

00:27:03.539 --> 00:27:05.680
time every day was over, I was just ready to

00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:11.519
go to bed. But it was fun. I always would try

00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:17.019
to mix in some slut time whenever I would travel.

00:27:17.900 --> 00:27:21.599
Just always be open to something happening. Either

00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:24.880
meeting a random stranger at a bar or a restaurant.

00:27:26.869 --> 00:27:30.690
And I don't think there was any trips. I don't

00:27:30.690 --> 00:27:32.990
think there was any trips I took where I didn't

00:27:32.990 --> 00:27:36.289
hook up with someone, though. I think every single

00:27:36.289 --> 00:27:39.809
time, no matter where I went, either someone

00:27:39.809 --> 00:27:44.250
off of an app or just meeting someone somewhere

00:27:44.250 --> 00:27:48.190
randomly. It was fun. It was a good time. I recommend

00:27:48.190 --> 00:27:52.970
it. I recommend it. All right. You ready for

00:27:52.970 --> 00:28:02.490
our hitter? Sure. What did you do to not let

00:28:02.490 --> 00:28:06.569
all of that sexual activity, like, be harmful

00:28:06.569 --> 00:28:11.630
to your mental health? Harmful? Mm -hmm. It was

00:28:11.630 --> 00:28:16.230
helpful. Okay. Why was it helpful? Because a

00:28:16.230 --> 00:28:23.089
lot of my friends that were single, well, Jennifer

00:28:23.089 --> 00:28:25.809
and Mallory were on the ho train with me, so

00:28:25.809 --> 00:28:29.509
it was fine. Mallory, probably the least. But

00:28:29.509 --> 00:28:31.990
me and Jennifer, every year we would like sit

00:28:31.990 --> 00:28:34.829
down and like be like, let's write down the names

00:28:34.829 --> 00:28:38.190
of all the guys. And then we would jokingly give

00:28:38.190 --> 00:28:40.509
out a little ho crown. We did this for like two

00:28:40.509 --> 00:28:43.349
or three years. So her and I were always battling.

00:28:43.410 --> 00:28:47.450
But anybody else that we knew that was like trying

00:28:47.450 --> 00:28:51.470
to like wait and have a relationship and only

00:28:51.470 --> 00:28:55.009
sleep with people when it was meaningful. Like

00:28:55.009 --> 00:28:58.210
they all just seemed like really. cranky and

00:28:58.210 --> 00:29:00.670
depressed and frustrated all the time and that's

00:29:00.670 --> 00:29:02.609
all they ever talked about is how they were frustrated

00:29:02.609 --> 00:29:08.009
with men and me Mallory and Jennifer we would

00:29:08.009 --> 00:29:09.890
tell the guy stories but we would just laugh

00:29:09.890 --> 00:29:12.029
and move on because we were just out to have

00:29:12.029 --> 00:29:16.190
fun and just interact with men in whatever capacity

00:29:16.190 --> 00:29:19.170
if some of them we ended up going on a few dates

00:29:19.170 --> 00:29:21.529
some of them we never went on a date some people

00:29:21.529 --> 00:29:24.670
it was a one -night stand you know some people

00:29:24.670 --> 00:29:27.950
we hooked up with a few times But we always got

00:29:27.950 --> 00:29:31.109
really good stories out of it. Either funny or,

00:29:31.210 --> 00:29:36.589
like, awkward or mostly funny. Or some really

00:29:36.589 --> 00:29:41.910
good ones. Like, this one guy was like, his body

00:29:41.910 --> 00:29:44.950
felt like melted butter. And so they still say

00:29:44.950 --> 00:29:47.089
stuff like that to me. Like, what about that

00:29:47.089 --> 00:29:51.329
one guy? It was like butter. So, you know, just

00:29:51.329 --> 00:29:53.329
little things like that. Or we'd go to a music

00:29:53.329 --> 00:29:56.410
festival. We were always just like living our

00:29:56.410 --> 00:29:59.430
life. So to me, like being a hoe was like better

00:29:59.430 --> 00:30:03.630
for my mental health because it was, I think

00:30:03.630 --> 00:30:06.390
that I was doing it with the girls too. Like

00:30:06.390 --> 00:30:08.970
not at the same time, like even though we were

00:30:08.970 --> 00:30:11.049
in the same hotel room a few different times.

00:30:11.930 --> 00:30:16.710
Um, but because we were all out there being hoes

00:30:16.710 --> 00:30:22.089
and we were all older, uh, divorced women. I

00:30:22.089 --> 00:30:23.829
think that was a big thing. Like we were in our

00:30:23.829 --> 00:30:27.829
mid thirties, divorced, kind of same place in

00:30:27.829 --> 00:30:30.250
life. And then we were all just like encouraging

00:30:30.250 --> 00:30:33.089
each other to just go be the biggest toes we

00:30:33.089 --> 00:30:36.269
wanted to be. And then we would meet up on like

00:30:36.269 --> 00:30:38.069
a weekday or whatever. We were always together

00:30:38.069 --> 00:30:40.869
and we would always get together and like talk

00:30:40.869 --> 00:30:43.069
about what we did or, oh, did you end up going

00:30:43.069 --> 00:30:46.289
home with that guy? Or like, you know, so -and

00:30:46.289 --> 00:30:48.369
-so. Jennifer was kind of working her way through

00:30:48.369 --> 00:30:52.710
some of the football. guys in our community um

00:30:52.710 --> 00:30:57.170
which ironically I never muddied in those waters

00:30:57.170 --> 00:31:01.069
except for one dude so which is kind of weird

00:31:01.069 --> 00:31:02.730
for me I thought that would be a good place to

00:31:02.730 --> 00:31:05.450
you know get some dudes but anyways I'll let

00:31:05.450 --> 00:31:10.130
Jennifer have that genre um yeah so I think it

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was good for our mental health because we were

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just having the time of our lives and sharing

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those experiences with each other so I never,

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ever, ever thought of it as something I had to

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protect myself from. It just felt good. I can't

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wait. I love the slut diaries and I can't wait

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for the next one. I need to start writing down.

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some of the ideas for the stories. If you ladies

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listening have any good slut stories that you

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want to come on here and do the diaries of an

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ethical slut, send us an email at the siren of

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freedom at gmail .com. And we would love to have

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you on. You can be anonymous. You know, if you've

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been listening, you know, we use fake names,

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but we'd love to hear your stories and like.

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whatever has happened to you at whatever phase

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of life that you were a hoe. We'd love to hear

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the hoe stories. So I've got a question. You're

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a good reader. What if they don't really want

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to even be on the show, but you read some stories

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that they might send in? Would you be willing

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to do that? Oh, yeah. I think that's a great

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idea. I think that would be dope. Yeah, or if

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they have... questions or maybe they want to

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hear a story on a certain topic i probably have

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something but yeah if they want to write their

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story down um that would be dope let's do it

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send in your host stories have a good night Your

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support is what helps us continue to sound the

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alarm of freedom.
