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non -monogamy this is not your average lifestyle
podcast this is for men who lead men who master,
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go. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome
to another exhilarating episode of the Bull Brotherhood
podcast. I'm one third of your podcast family,
the man himself, the Sigma male, Brian Morgan,
along with the other members of the family, the
lovely Siren. Say hello, sweetie. Hello. All
right now. And of course, my nephew, the one
and only Socrates. What's good, baby? It was
good, y 'all. It was good, excited, ready to
go. All right, all right. Ladies and gentlemen,
this is a podcast that's really, like, come up
rather suddenly. We are actually on a hiatus
for the Christmas season, but whenever Nephew
gets a wild hair up his ass and wants to talk
about something, I normally listen. And this
is something that I really have been following.
I think we have been following, and, of course,
the world has been following. I'm going to turn
it over to the nephew since he is the one that
is leading this for the night. And he is going
to take it and introduce everything to the to
the listeners. Here we go. Take it over, Socrates.
Yeah, yeah. Well, it's good. Thank you. So, you
know, this episode is called No Diddy. And where
what happened recently is 50 Cent has put out
actually the number one viewed show right now
on Netflix called Sean Combs The Reckoning. And
it really paints. Puff Daddy Combs, Sean Combs,
P. Diddy, Puff Daddy, it paints him in a really
evil light. So I'm just going to go over some
of the basics. Spoiler alert for some of you
guys who haven't seen it. I would definitely
highly recommend seeing the Netflix special before
you listen to this one because we're going to
spoil some things. But for those who have or
know enough to know what we're talking about,
this podcast is about looking at... the world
through the lens of ethical non -monogamy and
through the lens from the perspective of a bull
and a bull's wife, Siren. So that's what we're
going to do. And what really bothered me and
the reason why the hair I got up my ass was that
a lot of y 'all vanilla folks, you know, and
this is no shade. We love vanilla people, right?
My family, my friends, like nothing like that.
I was vanilla most of my life. But they're showing
a lot of shade towards the ethical non -monogamy
community and, like, associating what we do with
freak -offs and with the stuff that, you know,
the escorting that is ethical non -monogamy,
the swinging part with Cassie. You know, like,
I want to talk about the fact that that has nothing
to do with what we're doing. So I just want to
go back in the beginning, and I can speak for
me and Unk. I grew up with Puff Daddy, man. Like,
my coming of age was hip -hop. Like, when I started
getting into music is when, you know, Grandmaster
Flash and Funk Flex and, you know, DJ Red Alert
and all those cats out there. Like, even well
before Run -D .M .C., Sugar Hill Gang, all those
cats. I was listening to hip -hop, you know?
I grew up on that. I was a break dancer. I was
a B -boy. I tried my hand at graffiti. People
don't understand. Hip -hop is not just the music.
It is five elements. It was the dress. It was
the style. It was the culture. It was the music.
It was the dancing. And being black and Puerto
Rican, those are the two major races doing it.
90 % black, right? So when it really starts getting
hot is when two producers hit the scene. And
that's Sean Puffy Combs and, in my opinion, Dre.
Now, I know, you know, we know Suge Knight comes
along later and that becomes important, but it
was always Dre for me being from SoCal. And I
used to listen to K -Day, which is an AM radio
show in L .A. And so I would hear the most recent
L .A. music and I would hear the most recent
New York and, you know, what was coming out on
their plate. So we, you know, in L .A., that's
what we listened to at our age. And so Puff Daddy
comes out, and man, he was the first rap mogul
that we understood. Because before him, there
were, you know, like Master P was a big rap mogul
before P -Daddy got real big. But Master P, we
just didn't understand what he was doing. And
a lot of people just thought he was too flashy.
We didn't understand that. He was the one, really,
who's the true mogul. And then you got... You
know, guys like 50 Cent and all that coming along.
But P. Diddy was big, y 'all. Like, y 'all don't
understand. There was a time I worked at nightclubs.
When I worked at nightclubs, I would say a third
of all the hits was Sean Puffy Combs. And a decent
night, it wouldn't have been surprising if you
had half the hits was from Sean Puffy Combs.
Y 'all don't understand. Like, when Jodeci came
out, and Unc can speak to this because they're
from North Carolina. But when Jodeci came out,
people don't understand how groundbreaking it
was to mix hip hop style and beats to R &B. That's
a hundred. And it says that in this, it talks
about that in this, in this documentary, how,
you know, this was, that was, that was Sean Puffy
Combs. That was P Diddy all the way. 100%. Like
this guy at 19 was filling venues, that some
professional companies couldn't fill in. And
he got popular because he filled a venue so hot,
so much that, and the other things went wrong,
that there was, you know, panic and a stampede
and nine people died. You know, may y 'all bless
their souls. So, you know, this guy, I'm not
going to go through his whole thing, but this
guy was big, right? And I have to admit when
these things, you know, I have to admit. When
I grew up in L .A., his white parties was the
only parties I really said I wish I got to until
I found out what was going on. Like, I really
wanted to go to a P. Diddy white party. And I
was from L .A. I was able, you know, and I'm
not, nobody's special in L .A., trust me. You
know, when you're from L .A., almost everybody
has a story of going to some wild party, either
a rapper or a singer or an actor or athlete.
It was, it's not, even though it was a lot of
people, it wasn't uncommon. It wasn't a big deal.
And so this was big. So when it comes down to
it, you know, come to find out he was taking
advantage of his artist. Come to find out he
was, you know, doing, you know, you can even
go all the way to conspiracy theories of these
record labels having rituals. Some people call
him a warlock because he has a Haitian. goddess
or something on his back and a lot of people
are saying man that's a curse or whatever or
he's practicing come you know religious stuff
but this guy was doing a lot of powerful things
and a lot of evil things but he was changing
the culture all at the same time so let's talk
about the freak -offs you know so he would have
these amazing white party events And from day
one, he had the best venues, the best DJs, the
best food, the best of everything. And like almost
from day one, some major news organization. In
the beginning, it might have just been MTV. But
later on, I mean, it was CNN, Fox. Everybody
was reporting on these parties, especially the
ones in the Hamptons, because those were the
less like R &B grimy or. hip hop grimy guys.
Those were like the Martha, Martha Stewart type
of ones that, you know, the, you know, the famous
people would go to. So he's doing these freak
offs. And for the longest time, people just saw
opulence. They just saw like, okay. And for black
folks, it was, this is how you do it. The same
way white people were doing it. Right. And then
the Hamptons, but. We put a black spin on it.
That's not negative. That was high class and
top notch. But P .D .D. was always proud to be
a black man from Harlem. Right. So, you know,
these parties were insanely incredible. And you
would talk about you would listen to people saying
they'd sign their deals. They're not important
in a minute. And they would sign deals there.
They would you to have people breaking in so
they can get recognized. I think. The group D26
did that? I'm not sure. Don't quote me on that
one. So it was just insane. Come to find out
that this fool was like raping men and women,
drugging, most of the time drugging them and
just coercing them into this stuff or getting
you so high that you wake up and your booty is
sore. That disgusts me when it comes to people
in, you know, and I'll let you guys jump in here
because I've been talking for 10 minutes. But
it disgusts me that a lot of vanilla people,
especially on TikTok, was associating that with
swingers. People don't understand. We take pride
in how well we protect our people, male and female.
We take pride in how many rules and hoops you
have to go to. How many parties, the vanilla
people parties, regular vanilla people or middle
class, upper middle class, where you're getting
a background check ran on you, where you have
to take blood tests and show certain results
just to get in? This is our community. I have
to hold myself back from being self -righteous
and put vanilla people down. Because if you really
look at the stats, man, we have way more sex,
but we have the same amount of STI rates as vanilla
people. Our marriages actually last longer. We
report more happiness in our sex lives and regular
life. And so it was like, what they were doing
was manipulation, was vanilla stuff. What they're
doing was vanilla. If you want to do some crazy,
freaky stuff, you can't have a conversation.
It messes up the mood. You can't ask for permission.
That totally takes the mood away, right? What
you're going to do is have them drink so much
or pressure them so much or lie so much. That
their decision -making process is going on. I'm
not saying that lifestyle people don't throw
some wild -ass crazy parties and do all kinds
of drugs. I'm not saying we don't. There's some
that do. I don't. There's some that do. But what
I'm saying is that in our community, we do the
exact opposite of that. So the second part is
the part that is lifestyle. We're going to talk
about that. So one of the things that they would
do besides the free calls after that or during
other times. Puff Daddy's, P. Diddy's, like,
main girl, Cassie, they would hire an escort
who was also a bull to come and do all kind of
stuff. And Puff Daddy, and nobody said this,
played, in our community, we'd probably call
him a stag, but he would play both stag and cuckold
roles. Nobody talked about that part. But talk
to me. I got one question for you, and then let's
talk to me about the escorting part. But my question
is, and you answered it, you know, off. recording
but i want you to talk to our audience about
it is escorting if there's money involved and
everything that cassie and them were doing do
you still call that lifestyle what they were
doing yeah it is because what what what the gentleman
walked into when you know she opened the door
and he goes in and the situation was Diddy is
sitting in his corner out of the way of whatever
he can't be seen. But obviously he's, in some
senses, he's giving directions, I guess, as to
what he wants to see. And his lady is, you know,
complying. And, of course, the escort is doing
his thing. Yeah, that is, I mean, that's part
of what a hot wife encounter is. Then after,
of course, it's over. They, you know, he and
Diddy and Cassie leave the room and whatever
transpired that escort said, you know, with the
ejaculate. And that's just like a cuckold type
of thing. So, yeah, that is a part of our world,
of our world. But what took place, let me say
this, anything else that took place other than
that was not a part of our world. If anything
that happened to her physically, anything that
happened at the other freak -offs, that has nothing
to do with our world. Nothing whatsoever. Yeah,
I mean, the community I'm involved in, so Ung
has been involved in, you know, places where
it was legal or the legality was, you know, it
was like swept under the rug or whatever. But
what I'm, the community I'm involved in, there's
no, the only money is getting there. I don't
get paid for this. No, it costs. It costs us
money. Let me tell you. Worth every penny. The
travel, the parties, it costs the host to put
it on, so they charge for it. And the parties
that we've thrown, I go overboard. I don't mind
saying that. I like an extremely clean house.
you know, towels everywhere and decorations.
And I'm not, and I wasn't my first couple of
parties. We didn't charge the next ones. We are
going to just for the cause because it's, you
know, a lot of people are starting to show up.
So that's the biggest thing. It's like, Unk has
cleared it up. That is part of the lifestyle.
That's true. But what we do as a, as a bull and
80 % of the bulls that I know, they. The benefit
is they'll pay to get there, and they'll pay
to eat breakfast and lunch, and then maybe the
cuck will, or the stagger will pay for the hotel
and for dinner or something like that, right?
And there are a lot of ones that get flown. Everything's,
you know, everything's paid for, right? That's
fine. Yeah, go ahead. No, go ahead. Keep going.
Keep going. I was going to say, let me say this,
and you'll correct me if I'm wrong. I believe
that that particular escort, I don't know if
he worked for an escort agency. He did. Correct
me if I'm wrong. Okay, then. Then in that case,
when Diddy or Cassie, whoever reached out to
that agency, they gave the person from the agency
all of the info. Okay? So me, if that was me,
I get called in after they've seen maybe pictures
of me or whatever. I get called in and... Of
course, you know, the handler will tell me exactly
what is going to take place or what they want
to take place. Now, it's up to me to say, OK,
you know, I'm good with this or I'm not good
with this. Obviously, the money was good, probably.
And, you know, the individual said, yeah, I'll
do it. Now, once he got there and then he saw
that it was this celebrity, you know what I mean?
Of course, he's like, oh, shit. But though. He
went on and did what he had to do. But like I
said, other than, other than the actual scene,
the encounter itself, you know, everything else
had nothing to do, had nothing to do with doggone
lifestyle. I'm with, no, none of it. Yeah. And
I really encourage people. His name is, is Clayton
Howard. I really encourage people to look into
him. He, he, he interviews well. He's a professional.
He was hired for the agency. He made smart decisions
throughout, you know, and, and he isn't, he is
a pretty, again, I haven't listened to all of
them. So, you know, maybe he says some crazy
stuff I haven't heard yet, but so far he isn't,
you know, he's not, he's not trying to make a
point about himself. And he really communicates
even, even said like in the swinger lifestyle,
what they're doing is not how it's done. You
know, and he even started off with she's 19 years
old when he first started that. You don't do
that. Number one, the average of the swing lifestyle
is, I think, 38 and above the average. Number
one. Number two, back then, nobody 19 even knew
any knew anything about that shit, about any
of that stuff. You know. It's like most people
didn't even know about the swinging lifestyle
or the escorting male or escorting thing in the
90s. And that's when they were doing early 2000s.
That's when they were doing it. So it's like,
I'm sorry, early 2000s, right? So it's like,
you know, this is things, you know, I just want
to point out not to make any side better. Because
again, I tell people, most people, you should
not be in this lifestyle. It's not for everybody.
It's not for most people. It really isn't. You
know, we want as many people who want to come
in this community. Come one, come all, please.
But most people, monogamy works great. They should
be monogamous. Stay monogamous. It's a great
system for you. And most people know their jealousy
is too much for it. They're not ready for that.
It's great. But in this lifestyle, everything
that we have that I stand for, the reason why
we're doing this podcast was violated. I mean,
yeah, all the principles in this lifestyle. Except
for what Clayton Howard did, P. Diddy and Cassie
and all those guys violated that shit. No permission,
violence, coercion. You know, we have people
that have done a thousand times less and they're
on the verge of, they're being accused of major
crimes and they're at risk of going to jail.
We've done things way less than him in our community.
For example, let's talk about, there was a gentleman
recently that went to... a party and another
single guy saw him stealthing. He removed the
condom without permission and continued to play.
Guess what? That guy's not invited to no more
parties for anybody that knows about him. Like,
and that happened one time and that's all I need.
Yeah. Well, yeah. And so that's just like how
seriously we take the consent, you know, the
levels of consent in the community that we run
it. Right. Right. Are we better than anybody?
No, we're human beings. You know, we're a cross
section of human beings of race, color, whatever,
you know, but it's like, it's no Diddy over here.
We don't do any of that. Our parties, we have
as much fun as they do without any of that drama
where nobody's looking for a record deal. Nobody's
trying to get made. Nobody cares. How much money
there? I have found out later on that the person
that I've gone to and seen in several hotel takeovers
is a multimillionaire or this other person here
is high in this area of life or high in this
political area or influential here. And I didn't
even know it for three or four years or two or
three years. I didn't even know. Yeah, because
no one cares about that. Because nobody cares
about money, prestige. We care about how we treat
each other, you know? We care about how we...
And that's the main thing. That's the main thing,
the respect level. That's the main thing. Keep
the main thing the main thing. That's it. So
it's like, I'm not trying to puff my chest out
or anything, and I'm not trying to... I want...
I even tell some vanilla people, you should read
The Ethical Slut because there's so many good,
valuable tools in there. for people to exercise
in communication and all that. But I will say
I am proud of this community. I am so proud of
our community because that shit would have never
happened. Not one party, not one party, well,
that would have made it. You know, we know people
here locally that have been kicked out of their
small little clubs because they do one -tenth
of what they were doing at the freak -offs. And,
you know, I don't know, .001 of what... you know,
Diddy was doing to Cassie with violence and coercion.
And these guys are kicked out of our community,
you know? So I'm really proud of our community.
You know, this is not going to be a long episode.
It's just more of like, hey, what they were doing,
you know? And I'm also going to say everything
we're saying on here is alleged. These are alleged
crimes. These are alleged by 50 Cent. And yes,
50 Cent and Puffy's had a long beef. And yes,
50 Cent is the greatest. petty dude i've ever
seen in my life the best pettiest guy on the
planet and he does it well and do as a as a black
man do i ask myself well are we playing into
the fact that they seem to be taking down all
of our leaders all of our guys that represented
success or opulence or you know being equal on
all levels or whatever i do feel that way on
sometimes but There's certain things that are
just too, you know, it's too many people pointing
at the same direction. And there's too many instances
of me growing up as a child remembering I must
have been 16, 17 when I first heard about this
guy. And then from all the way now, so I've witnessed
all of this. It's just too much, you know. And
at the same time, it's like, but guess what?
In our community, man, those who are thinking
about this. One thing you can understand is I
think if I've heard it once, I've heard it 100
times of women saying, I feel safer at a lifestyle
club than I do of another one. Because at a lifestyle
club, if you get groped once and you tell a bartender,
you tell a security, you tell anybody, that person
is going to get kicked out and they probably
will be banned from that one. And depending on
who the people that know the network, you might
be banned from some other stuff you didn't even
know was associated. You will definitely get
blackballed. Yeah. But you go to a vanilla club,
don't even bother me with that. Of course you're
being groped. They know it. It's going to happen.
So it's like, there's no Diddy over here, man.
We do things the right way. And are there bad
actors in this community? Yes, but they get dealt
with. Are there, you know, bad people of every
race, every sex, good women, men? Couples, yes,
but no more and no less than any other kind of
community. So I don't know if you guys have anything
else. Siren, you haven't weighed in too much.
Well, because like you said in the previous,
it's like the only stuff that I have to weigh
in on is agreeing with you about the ethics and
consent of our community. I'm not familiar because
like you said before, when you and Unk were out.
partying and doing these hip -hop things i was
you know leading worship at youth group so you
know i can't i can't relate to the previous part
you know but i do agree with you on the the ethics
and everything else you know is just complete
opposite from what we do in the lifestyle you
know we we go over our ethics and our standards
all the time together you know whenever we go
to a party and and we try our best to educate
people and help them to learn, you know, to respect
and treat others accordingly. So, you know, and
I've stopped people, been like, hey, where's
your condom? And the lady said, oh, I said it
was fine. You know, we got tests. We showed each
other. I'm good with it. And I said, okay. And
she said, but thank you. Thank you for saying
something, you know. So we just try to be involved
in the safety and ethics of, you know, our community
and to look out for each other. So true. Brother,
I don't know what else to say. You've covered
it, okay? I just wanted to just, you know, dive
in and just let the ones know what went on with
the, you know, with the escort. But other than
that, I really don't know what else to say right
now. I mean, you broke it down. You know, the
community that we live in, it is just what you
said. It is about that respect. Here again, going
back to my, you know, one of my sayings, you
know, respect, protect, and love. That respect
comes first, first and foremost. And whatever
happened that, you know, these other free calls
and all that mess like that, that has nothing.
I guarantee you that has nothing to do with our
world. None whatsoever. Yeah, and we have way
more sex and have way more fun than they do.
Like now that I, because I'm, and you know what?
Cuts through the bullshit. Exactly. It's like,
who wants to spend a bunch of time, like we spend
time getting to know each other and stuff like
that, but there's a lot of parties where we all
know that that's why we're there. We know we're
there to play, so we can easily approach someone,
talk for a few minutes, and especially me as
a woman, say, hey, would you like to go play?
And then boom, it's on. You know, you're talking
about these ditty parties and stuff. They're
drugging people up, waiting for that to go into
effect, you know, or waiting for somebody to
get drunk. Like, I like the efficiency of the
lifestyle on top of everything else because efficiency
makes me wet. So I wouldn't go to no ditty party
because all that sounds like too much effort
just to get to fuck. Yeah. You know, and besides
all the ethical stuff. If I really wanted to,
I could have gone. Like if I, if I wanted to,
but it wasn't like, let me, you know, let me
make these connections, six degrees of separation.
And I call Lou that knows Sam that works at Capitol
records. Cause you know, I can tell you a million
people in LA has that, those connections. And,
but I'm glad I didn't. Cause I'm like, our parties
are just as fun. If not more. And we're fucking
and everybody's having a great time. And, and,
and some of the parties, it's the opposite. The
women are all over us. Not most, but some, you
know, splash. Sometimes you might get caught
up in your decent looking guy. It's blast Saturday
night. It's you're not worried about, you know,
people, you know, if anything, the women are
good to pushy. And it's great. I love it. They're
exercising their freedom and their right to be
sexual and to, you know, do that. We love it.
So we're going to close out with that, y 'all.
It's just something quick. Like they said, I'll
let everybody get back to our holiday spirit.
You know, thank you guys for listening. And like
we keep saying, you know, we'd love to hear from
you. We're on Telegram. We're on Instagram. We're
on YouTube. You know, make comments on YouTube.
You can email us at thebullbrotherhood at gmail
.com. And, yeah, so you can close it out. All
right, all right. Well, ladies and gentlemen,
we hope that you have enjoyed this brief podcast
at the last minute. And as usual, coming from
myself, the Sigma Male. And Siren and Socrates,
we are wishing everyone the happiest of holidays.
Be safe. Go to your families. And we will see
you again in the new year. And as always, to
my brothers of the brotherhood out there, I wish
you guys good night. And to all of my hard wives,
you know the dear ladies, good morning. Until
we talk again, everybody have a wonderful night.
And Merry Christmas to you. Bye -bye.