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masculine edge and embrace a lifestyle that demands

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mastery welcome to the brotherhood welcome to

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the bull brotherhood podcast where we talk power

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pleasure and the art of dominance in ethical

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non -monogamy this is not your average lifestyle

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podcast this is for men who lead men who master,

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and men who leave a lasting impression. If you're

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here, you're not just curious. You're ready to

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elevate. So to all the bulls, hot wives, stags,

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and open -minded explorers, we see you. Let's

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go. Welcome to another informative, and I do

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mean informative, Bull Brotherhood podcast. And

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this one is very, very special tonight because

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I truly have all my brothers from the Bull Brotherhood

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with me tonight. Of course, my partner in crime,

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my nephew, Socrates. But also I have from the

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Keaton Actions podcast, Michael C. Say what's

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up, Mike? What's going on, everybody? Happy to

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be here. And my other brother, my little brother,

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my little big brother from the Old Faces podcast.

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You know him as Mr. Mocha, a .k .a. Dr. Gable.

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What's up, big bro? A .k .a. Devo. That's right,

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a .k .a. Devo, Mr. Olympia. Don't add up. Why

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I got to be Devo? I ain't even done nothing yet.

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I ain't even done nothing yet. exactly exactly

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and of course yours truly you know the Sigma

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male himself Mr. Brian Morgan but I'm taking

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a different approach tonight a different role

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ladies and gentlemen I'm actually the model the

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moderator for this podcast for this segment tonight

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and the segment is one that we all are like really

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have great conversations about and I really want

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to hear these three brothers here go at it tonight.

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This is going to be raw, uncensored, unfiltered.

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Okay? This is like the roles and responsibilities

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of, and I'm going to make it the three way, the

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roles and responsibilities of not only the hot

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wife couple, but the hot wife, the cuckold husband,

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as well as the bull. Okay? This is stemming from

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a conversation that took place about, what, a

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week ago, y 'all? Last week? Mm -hmm. After a

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wonderful utopia weekend in Palm Springs, California,

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okay? So on that note, I'm going to turn it over

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to my nephew, Socrates, and he's going to bring

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you up to speed on what that conversation started

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and what it's all about. Go ahead. Yes, sir.

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Yeah, so... To me, it was a continuation of a

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debate that Mr. Mocha and Michael C are having

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as far as that is concerned. And we were in hot

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tub, just kind of like going over the weekend,

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you know, talking about how successful it was.

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And the subject came up about responsibilities

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of the bull versus the cuckold and the challenges

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that they face. And listening to Mr. Mocha and

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Michael, I thought that Mr. Mocha was saying

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something and Michael was saying another, but

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I got a little bit more clarity on what Michael

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was saying, and I wasn't feeling it. I was like,

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I didn't think you thought that way, brother.

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So that's what we got. So I would rather have

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Michael state his position, and then I state

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mine. I don't know what you guys think about

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that. And then I don't know if you guys want

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me and him to debate that, or then Mr. Mocha

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can step in. Why don't you speak on where you

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went off track or where our opinions diverge

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so that the people kind of know what the starting

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point is. Yeah, yeah, that's a better idea. Because

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you know Mike is going to start throwing rocks

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in a minute. So you better go ahead and start

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throwing your rocks first. I get first pitch.

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I get first pitch. You better take that pitch

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and you might want to throw a fastball. Yeah,

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I was going to say, y 'all put me on the spot.

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When he counters, brother, it's over, okay? So

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go ahead. These two brothers have been doing

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this for a minute, so they already know I'm the

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amateur coming in. Okay. You didn't jump in today.

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Here we go. So, yeah. So it actually sparked

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because me and Brian and my wife, Siren, we were.

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We're going to have an episode called Circles,

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Triangles, and Squares. And my thesis, my perspective

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in the Cutco lifestyle, that's a triangle, meaning

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equal challenge, equal opportunity, equal responsibilities,

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divergent, like unique situations, right? Everybody

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has their unique things that they have to deal

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with. When somebody will, I think what we diverge

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is when somebody presented as if Michael was

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saying, look, man, a little bit, you got some

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of these bulls out here and they on some bullshit.

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Right. And these couples come together and they

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get there. Not everybody, not every couple. I

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know Mike's not saying that. Not every couple

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is on some bullshit, but some of these couples

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will come together and they'll get their shit

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together and they'll try to come correct. and

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you have to kind of deal with a whole bunch of

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bulls that, one, half of them or a lot of them

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call themselves a bull, but they ain't. You know,

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I know that's his position, which we agree on.

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A lot of them come in correct, which we agree

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on, and that kind of makes it kind of tilt the

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scale. That's what I understood, and that's where

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I feel like we disagree. It's like it kind of

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tilts the scale in the fact that the couple,

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the cuckold couple is kind of dealing with something

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a little bit. more or more challenging than the

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bull is. Okay. I think if I recall correctly,

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when I was talking about the ups and downs and

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just the trials that the couple has to go through,

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you were trying to equate that to basically the

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stuff that the bulls have to deal with. And what

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I'm saying is, Oh, go ahead. Well, no, what I

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was saying is, I guess as a, as a, as a bull,

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this is the way that I look at it. You can kind

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of determine what level of involvement you want.

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You know what I'm saying? Like it can be as,

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as, as, as basic as you want it to be, or it

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can be as involved as you want it to be. Obviously,

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it depends on what the couple is looking for.

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One of the things that I hang my hat on personally

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is adaptability. Whatever you're looking for,

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I probably got that in my tool bag. The question

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is, do I want to give it to you? I'm not here

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to force what I want on anybody. I really don't

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get down like that. I guess you have two different

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approaches. I know boys out there who they kind

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of have a script and they want couples to adhere

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to that script. I'm not here to say what is better,

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what is right or wrong. I just know that that

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particular approach doesn't appeal to me personally

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because what winds up happening is all of my

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encounters wind up looking like each other. You

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know what I'm saying? So I personally like to

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adapt. to what a couple is looking for because

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that ensures that there's that variety. You know

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what I'm saying? Because each couple has different

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needs. So, you know, from a bull's perspective,

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I think not that our path is easy, just easier

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because let's be honest, it's a lot easier for

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us to find what we're looking for than it is

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for them to find what they're looking for. But

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I'll just leave it at that for now and let brothers

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expound on that and kick it around and do whatever

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with it. Yeah, so Mr. Mocha, did you want to

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chime in or you want me to keep going on? No,

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keep going. I'm not jumping in until I can start

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throwing rocks. Oh, you're just sitting on the

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side waiting for whoever. At the moment, y 'all

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both being real politically correct. So I'm going

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to wait till the politically correctness falls

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off. And then I'm going to jump in because otherwise

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I'll be the asshole as usual. And I'm going to

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wait till y 'all start being an asshole. So please

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continue, brother. So basically he waited for

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the first fade to get played. Yes, I am. I am

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not here to take the high road. Okay. Yeah. So

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my thing is, well, once again, Well, I'll tell

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the audience, I consider myself the lowest guy

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on the totem pole to junior guy. I'm learning

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from these cats. So what I will say is, not from

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my experiences, not from the bulls that I've

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talked to, it's hard enough for me to find couples

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that I want to rock with, that I jog with, that

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ain't on some bullshit, or that has good communication,

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or they have things worked out between themselves.

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So I don't think it's easier. That's because

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you live in East Jablip. Maybe, okay. But look,

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I've heard from the same thing from cats that

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were at Utopia, that were sharing their concerns

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and their struggles, and they live on your side

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of the town. You know what I'm saying? So I know

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cats that live in Atlanta that I've talked to.

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He's not part of the splash thing, but he lives

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in the same area as my family do. And he's saying.

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It's a problem. I got to go to E -Town to get

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what I need. I got to come to the West Coast.

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I'm going to put it like this. Let me chime in

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right quick. Go ahead, Mike. Go ahead. I was

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going to say what this reminds me of is it reminds

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me of the same thing I hear about guys, you know,

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in the lifestyle, quote, unquote, dominant guys

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who say that, you know, they can't find a submissive.

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You know what I'm saying? And my thing is. You

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know, you can blindfold me, spin me in a circle

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10 times, and let me throw a rock, and I'm going

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to hit a sub in the head. You know what I'm saying?

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Like, they're everywhere. So my thing is, if

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you're having trouble finding them when they're

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hiding in plain sight, and I've said this to

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many dudes, you're not ready to have one because

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they are there. I mean, and I'm not an extra

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clairvoyant dude. I mean, it's not like I got

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special powers. It's just having a conversation.

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I mean, knowing how to get the information that

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you're looking for through conversation and through

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talking to them. But I can't subscribe to the

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notion that they're not around, especially if

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you live in a heavily populated area. You know

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what I'm saying? So maybe I'm misunderstanding

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what you guys are talking about now. See, I'm

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a little slow. What is the question? Are we discussing

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it's hard for couples to find the guy and it's

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just as hard for guys to find the couple? Is

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that what we're discussing? Well, the premise

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is it's a principle. The principle, and I call

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it the triangle, is because take out the little

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small intricacies of finding versus the good

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people. Because I was more about finding good

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couples. I would say the same thing about a bull.

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Throw a rock and you can find a bull anywhere.

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We can't find good quality bulls. That's what

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they're complaining. That's why it's harder for

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them. I'd say it was the same thing. Go online,

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find any dude that's calling himself a bull,

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but the problem is you're going to run into some

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problems when you find out he's not really a

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dominant, he's not really a bull. He don't really

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know what he's talking about. I'm saying I ran

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into the same problem. I get a couple and they

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know all the way what they're talking about.

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And then next thing you know, you're taking it

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to the woman like you're supposed to, and they

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argue. That ain't no good experience for me.

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You're making it weird. You know what I'm saying?

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So I'm saying whatever challenges that you will

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put on a couple, it might not be the exact same

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particular challenge, but it's in the same bucket.

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In other words, I got challenges too. It ain't

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easier for you. You got two people. So I sat

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there and watched couples support each other.

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I've watched them lift each other up. You know,

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you're the cuckiest cuck I've ever seen. Well,

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you're the hottiest hot wiper. You know, and

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them build each other up. And the arguments and

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all the things that make them allow them to develop

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their skills. Well, I had you, bro, and I didn't

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even know you. The only thing I had is I wish

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this nigga would stop fooling around with his

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drink. That's the only thing I can say. This

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nigga was always with a drink in his hand. You

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know, but I had you. I'm just messing with you,

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but that's my point. I'm over here by myself.

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After I got divorced, I was by myself and I had

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to figure this out by myself. And I had to listen

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to some podcasts and figure some things out.

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And I wasn't smart enough to email you. I should

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have probably just emailed you and asked you

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a question, but I didn't. So it's like, yeah,

00:15:44.730 --> 00:15:47.330
that's cool. They do have problems, but it ain't

00:15:47.330 --> 00:15:49.789
more than me. Like you got, if you balance it

00:15:49.789 --> 00:15:52.350
all out is equal in my mind. That's what I'm

00:15:52.350 --> 00:15:57.570
saying. I mean, I guess you can make anything

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more difficult than it has to be. I think for

00:16:03.330 --> 00:16:06.590
us, especially, you know, we use the term quality

00:16:06.590 --> 00:16:10.690
bull a lot. When you're in that position, personally,

00:16:10.830 --> 00:16:13.690
I think we're operating from a position of abundance.

00:16:14.169 --> 00:16:15.809
You know what I'm saying? Like when you know

00:16:15.809 --> 00:16:18.830
your worth and if somebody's bringing it to you

00:16:18.830 --> 00:16:21.309
and you feel like they're not appreciating what

00:16:21.309 --> 00:16:25.720
you bring to the table, then. You know, you keep

00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:29.340
it moving and you keep it pushing. But when you

00:16:29.340 --> 00:16:33.340
know that you have what they're looking for,

00:16:33.419 --> 00:16:35.840
I mean, when you know that you check those boxes,

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I mean, I don't know, maybe I'm alone in that.

00:16:40.179 --> 00:16:43.440
I'll ask Brian and Mr. Mocha, do you guys feel

00:16:43.440 --> 00:16:45.600
like it's a scarcity for you to find what you're

00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:51.299
looking for? I think, and this is just speaking

00:16:51.299 --> 00:16:58.690
for me, it's an experience thing for me. When

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I first started, when I first started, I was

00:17:01.509 --> 00:17:06.130
just swinging. So, I mean, I guess I fell into

00:17:06.130 --> 00:17:09.309
the, what, the BBC Bull category. You know, I

00:17:09.309 --> 00:17:15.849
wasn't really looking for the, let's say, I guess

00:17:15.849 --> 00:17:19.349
the quality couple. You know, all I saw was a

00:17:19.349 --> 00:17:22.279
couple. You know, he may be a little submissive,

00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:24.440
and hell, I really didn't care if he was submissive

00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:26.660
or not. And, you know, I just wanted the wife.

00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:31.920
And then as I got older, I started to understand,

00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:39.079
you know, the cuckold world more. And so here

00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:41.660
again, I evolved. You know, I was looking for

00:17:41.660 --> 00:17:44.720
certain types of couples that, like you said,

00:17:44.759 --> 00:17:49.740
might check those boxes. And now at my age, you

00:17:49.740 --> 00:17:53.380
know, I'm definitely looking at certain types

00:17:53.380 --> 00:17:58.480
of couples. So I'm thinking on the experience

00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:01.960
level. You know, you're evolving as you stay

00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:04.839
in this life for a long time. Like, Mike, you've

00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:08.079
been in this life, what, 30 years? Close to it.

00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:11.000
Close to 30 years. You know, I've done it for

00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:13.240
a very, very long time. D, you've done it for

00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:16.140
a very, very long time, correct? Mm -hmm. Very

00:18:16.140 --> 00:18:18.670
long. So, I mean, you know what I'm saying? I'm

00:18:18.670 --> 00:18:24.890
looking at it in those terms. Maybe I am. Maybe

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y 'all can elaborate more, D or Mike. You know

00:18:27.789 --> 00:18:29.630
what I'm saying? But that's how I look at it.

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Can I say something real quick? Go ahead. Go

00:18:34.890 --> 00:18:39.809
ahead, D. All right, so. Oh, no. Yeah, go ahead.

00:18:41.089 --> 00:18:46.710
So, to answer Mike's question. Like if we're

00:18:46.710 --> 00:18:51.309
talking about. I don't I don't think I don't

00:18:51.309 --> 00:18:53.670
think as as a as a single male, I've ever had

00:18:53.670 --> 00:18:57.430
as much access to couples as couple as couples

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have had to me. So I'm sitting here literally

00:19:01.470 --> 00:19:05.329
right now looking at my single SDC profile and

00:19:05.329 --> 00:19:08.710
my couple's SDC profile. And here's the difference.

00:19:10.609 --> 00:19:16.640
Over the last year. I've probably been reached

00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:29.700
out to 15 times. Okay. On our couples profile,

00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:34.200
we probably get reached out to 15 times a week.

00:19:35.299 --> 00:19:38.220
I think couples tend to be in a position where

00:19:38.220 --> 00:19:41.779
they have so many options and so much to filter

00:19:41.779 --> 00:19:45.859
through. They're trying to determine, OK, which

00:19:45.859 --> 00:19:48.539
which guy do I choose? Which profile do I choose?

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How do I know which guy is the right guy for

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me? For me personally, out of the probably 15

00:19:55.380 --> 00:19:58.440
people who've reached out to me this year, I'd

00:19:58.440 --> 00:20:01.579
say only three or four of those caught my interest.

00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:04.380
And out of the three or four of those that caught

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my interest, I responded back to those three

00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:13.960
or four and they respond back. Very randomly

00:20:13.960 --> 00:20:20.299
or spotty. They send me a message. I respond.

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And then two months later, they respond with,

00:20:24.960 --> 00:20:31.640
hey. Now, to say that it's easier for a single

00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:35.220
guy to find couples, bull, whatever it may be,

00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:39.099
I think that's total bullshit. Because every

00:20:39.099 --> 00:20:42.529
couple, you know. Excuse me, I'm not going to

00:20:42.529 --> 00:20:46.390
say every 99 .9 percent of couples, you know,

00:20:46.430 --> 00:20:50.250
who have a profile with a real a decent pick

00:20:50.250 --> 00:20:53.349
of the couple on there. Always complain about

00:20:53.349 --> 00:20:56.650
being inundated with messages or being inundated

00:20:56.650 --> 00:20:59.150
with options. So whether they think the guy's

00:20:59.150 --> 00:21:04.529
a dumb fuck or not, they have that. Now, you

00:21:04.529 --> 00:21:08.529
take a single guy's profile. Most of us do not

00:21:08.529 --> 00:21:12.500
get inundated with options. So when we start

00:21:12.500 --> 00:21:15.920
talking about who has the most options, couples

00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:20.640
are usually frustrated trying to file through

00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:23.920
the guys. Now, if they make a shitty choice,

00:21:24.279 --> 00:21:28.500
that's on them. And of all the couples I've reached

00:21:28.500 --> 00:21:33.259
out to over the last year on my profile, it's

00:21:33.259 --> 00:21:35.519
very rare that I'm going to get a response back.

00:21:41.309 --> 00:21:44.089
Podcast them on anything like that, because I

00:21:44.089 --> 00:21:47.269
want it to be from my standpoint. I want it to

00:21:47.269 --> 00:21:50.750
be fair. I don't want you to say, oh, that's

00:21:50.750 --> 00:21:54.750
Mr. Mocha. I want you to see me as any other

00:21:54.750 --> 00:22:00.190
dude. And so I'm definitely not going to be on

00:22:00.190 --> 00:22:03.089
team Mike when it comes to I can throw a rock

00:22:03.089 --> 00:22:06.609
and find it anything, because even as far as

00:22:06.609 --> 00:22:12.289
subs are concerned. We get chosen. As the guy,

00:22:12.289 --> 00:22:15.470
we don't get to choose the couple or the female.

00:22:15.569 --> 00:22:19.450
Now, once you choose me, I can then steer the

00:22:19.450 --> 00:22:23.349
ship. But I'm waiting to be chosen to steer the

00:22:23.349 --> 00:22:27.630
ship. Couples got a thousand motherfuckers standing

00:22:27.630 --> 00:22:32.109
in line to be the one to steer the ship, as do

00:22:32.109 --> 00:22:40.079
subs and females. So that's my take on it. Yeah,

00:22:40.099 --> 00:22:42.759
so Mike, I don't know if you want to reply to

00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:44.640
that because I have something I want to say.

00:22:45.900 --> 00:22:47.960
I mean, if you, this is a question I have for

00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:52.920
Mr. Mocha. So you feel like you're never, you're

00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:58.420
not in the position to choose. I want to make

00:22:58.420 --> 00:23:00.319
sure I'm understanding you correctly. No, no,

00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:05.740
no. I said we're talking about numbers and options.

00:23:06.980 --> 00:23:09.900
Couples. Most couples, and I'm sure you can hang

00:23:09.900 --> 00:23:13.180
up and call 10 couples you know, and I guarantee

00:23:13.180 --> 00:23:16.460
if they go to their profiles over the last 12

00:23:16.460 --> 00:23:19.900
months, I guarantee they've had well over 100

00:23:19.900 --> 00:23:23.579
people reach out to them. Oh, absolutely. Okay.

00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:28.680
So now we're talking about they have more access

00:23:28.680 --> 00:23:31.339
and more options and they have more to choose

00:23:31.339 --> 00:23:37.319
from than your average single male. Or your average

00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:41.720
bull. And on top of that, because most people,

00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:47.039
when they look at a profile. They have so many

00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:49.460
options to choose from. They're going to step

00:23:49.460 --> 00:23:52.700
over most of the good guys anyways, because they

00:23:52.700 --> 00:23:56.259
have too many fucking options. Me, I can send

00:23:56.259 --> 00:23:58.460
out as many messages I want, but there is nothing

00:23:58.460 --> 00:24:01.559
about. Me texting, that's going to make me different.

00:24:01.599 --> 00:24:04.099
Now, if we go to an event and we're approaching

00:24:04.099 --> 00:24:06.920
people in person and someone gets to see you,

00:24:06.960 --> 00:24:09.960
talk to you, feel your vibe, that's a whole different

00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:13.440
thing. But when we're talking about, realistically

00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:16.140
speaking, that most of our interactions are going

00:24:16.140 --> 00:24:21.859
to be in an online setting. Couples got... They

00:24:21.859 --> 00:24:25.319
don't have to be. No, no, no, no, no. You skipped

00:24:25.319 --> 00:24:27.180
two things I said. Number one, I said realistically.

00:24:28.750 --> 00:24:30.609
Realistically, because we all have lives and

00:24:30.609 --> 00:24:33.569
jobs, and we know that right now, technology,

00:24:33.970 --> 00:24:39.049
social media... Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold

00:24:39.049 --> 00:24:46.549
on. Splash don't happen once a week. So if you're

00:24:46.549 --> 00:24:49.789
the type of dude that's only picking up people

00:24:49.789 --> 00:24:55.369
during Splash, then okay, you are once again...

00:24:55.789 --> 00:24:59.569
by narrowing your opportunities because you're

00:24:59.569 --> 00:25:04.890
only trying to meet couples a couple times a

00:25:04.890 --> 00:25:09.289
year. That's not realistic. Okay, so we're talking,

00:25:09.369 --> 00:25:11.990
we're also keeping in mind the Splash universe

00:25:11.990 --> 00:25:14.710
is something that only a small percentage of

00:25:14.710 --> 00:25:17.410
people and our listeners out there know about.

00:25:17.490 --> 00:25:19.849
Everyone don't even know about Splash yet. So

00:25:19.849 --> 00:25:22.900
we're talking about the masses. And we're talking

00:25:22.900 --> 00:25:25.140
about people all over the world. So we're talking

00:25:25.140 --> 00:25:29.099
about cucks or cuckold couples, hot wife couples,

00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:34.819
and bulls. Realistically, the main medium is

00:25:34.819 --> 00:25:37.960
online. Now, if we're going to start throwing

00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:41.559
in, you know, the what ifs or the possibilities

00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:45.859
or the small likelihoods, then we're going to

00:25:45.859 --> 00:25:48.859
get real sideways real fast. But we're going

00:25:48.859 --> 00:25:52.490
to go for the vast majority. Of ways people contact.

00:25:53.130 --> 00:25:56.750
And we know that's going to be online. And couples

00:25:56.750 --> 00:26:00.990
got. Single dudes beat. Hand down. The only person

00:26:00.990 --> 00:26:03.650
that's going to get more messages. Than couples

00:26:03.650 --> 00:26:08.809
is going to be a unicorn. So that means. They

00:26:08.809 --> 00:26:11.470
have the most options to choose from. And that

00:26:11.470 --> 00:26:14.410
makes a big difference. If I got a hundred couples.

00:26:14.609 --> 00:26:18.769
Reaching out to me a week. I guarantee. I'd be

00:26:18.769 --> 00:26:22.900
able to choose something. I have a better pool,

00:26:23.099 --> 00:26:26.660
a larger pool to choose from and be able to make

00:26:26.660 --> 00:26:30.640
better decisions. Because on our couple's profile,

00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:34.400
Mrs. Mocha has dick flying at her every day.

00:26:34.500 --> 00:26:36.839
So she can go through there and pick through

00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:39.700
that motherfucker like it's a buffet. Oh, you

00:26:39.700 --> 00:26:43.440
know, his eyebrows. Fuck that guy. I don't have

00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:47.039
that option. I mean, I'm like, oh, she only got

00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:49.130
lazy. I am cool with lazy. You know what I'm

00:26:49.130 --> 00:26:58.690
saying? I only got three options. Very well put.

00:26:59.250 --> 00:27:03.630
Very well put. Mike, what you got? Okay, so as

00:27:03.630 --> 00:27:07.210
far as the dearth of options that they have,

00:27:07.309 --> 00:27:08.910
because remember, I have a couple's profile too,

00:27:09.049 --> 00:27:15.009
so I see it. And the difference is the options

00:27:15.009 --> 00:27:19.259
that couples have. I don't know if you ever went

00:27:19.259 --> 00:27:22.259
to like the basement of a department store, right?

00:27:22.299 --> 00:27:24.819
Like a Macy's or something or Stern's or whatever

00:27:24.819 --> 00:27:26.619
department stores in your area back in the day

00:27:26.619 --> 00:27:29.240
when your mom would go. And in the basement,

00:27:29.339 --> 00:27:33.720
it looks like World War III, right? Like it's

00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:36.500
just bins of clothes, like all over the place.

00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:39.680
That's kind of what couples face. Like there's

00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:42.599
a lot there, but they got to do a lot of digging

00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:44.599
to find what they looking for. Like just because

00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:47.450
a hundred guys are sending the messages. doesn't

00:27:47.450 --> 00:27:49.750
mean that it's 100 quality guys sending the message.

00:27:49.950 --> 00:27:53.490
And it don't mean that it ain't 99. Hold on,

00:27:53.549 --> 00:27:58.309
hold on. You know, let me speak. So when we look,

00:27:58.470 --> 00:28:04.609
no problem. I love you. When we look, it's a

00:28:04.609 --> 00:28:09.039
little bit different. I love it. I love it. We

00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:12.059
don't have to filter through as much because

00:28:12.059 --> 00:28:14.720
we can pinpoint and go after exactly what we're

00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:16.640
looking for. So for us, it's almost like shopping

00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:18.240
in a thrift store. You know what I'm saying?

00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:21.140
Like I'm going to find exactly what I want. Where

00:28:21.140 --> 00:28:24.279
are the blazers at? I'm looking for a black blazer.

00:28:24.339 --> 00:28:26.400
Okay, you don't have no black blazers here? Okay,

00:28:26.460 --> 00:28:28.079
let me go to the next store. We don't have to

00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:31.039
go through, like everything is organized in there.

00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:33.299
So you can go exactly to what you're looking

00:28:33.299 --> 00:28:36.400
for as opposed to what the couples face on a

00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:39.680
lifestyle site, which is, everything being thrown

00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:42.339
in a pile because no matter if a guy is quality

00:28:42.339 --> 00:28:46.759
or not, you still have to open the email. You

00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:48.480
know what I'm saying? Like they still have to

00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.519
open it. There's no way to see who was a quality

00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:57.240
person based off of just whatever their introduction

00:28:57.240 --> 00:28:59.579
is. And yeah, you can kind of discount the guys

00:28:59.579 --> 00:29:02.119
that send you those, you know, the haze, the

00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:05.579
what's up, the she's hot, you know, the guys

00:29:05.579 --> 00:29:07.640
who don't even know enough to put, you know,

00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:10.960
a little something in their tagline, in their

00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:16.539
intro. Your busters. Your busters. Yeah. Your

00:29:16.539 --> 00:29:19.640
busters. They still have to go through all of

00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:21.460
those messages. Now, when I brought up Splash,

00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:23.920
I was just using Splash as an example. Anything

00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:26.539
can be a Splash. I'm just talking about putting

00:29:26.539 --> 00:29:28.539
yourself in a situation where you're actually

00:29:28.539 --> 00:29:31.259
getting out and meeting real people. That can

00:29:31.259 --> 00:29:33.500
be a munch. That can be a meet and greet. That

00:29:33.500 --> 00:29:37.500
can be a party. You know, like... When I hear

00:29:37.500 --> 00:29:43.119
you say what you say about the guys online and

00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:45.480
not having opportunities and things like that,

00:29:45.539 --> 00:29:47.180
what it reminds me of, and I'm not saying that

00:29:47.180 --> 00:29:49.839
they're similar, but what it reminds me of is

00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:52.339
when I hear dudes complain about not being able

00:29:52.339 --> 00:29:55.619
to find a job. Like they're expecting a job to

00:29:55.619 --> 00:29:58.759
just come and knock on their door. Like, knock,

00:29:58.859 --> 00:30:01.309
knock, knock. Who is it? Job. Like, nah, motherfucker,

00:30:01.410 --> 00:30:03.210
you got to get out there. You got to get it.

00:30:04.109 --> 00:30:07.990
You got to get out there. And if you're not putting

00:30:07.990 --> 00:30:10.569
the effort in, it's hard for me to feel sorry

00:30:10.569 --> 00:30:12.910
for you. Because I'm going to ask you, okay,

00:30:12.970 --> 00:30:15.250
what kind of effort you're putting it in? One

00:30:15.250 --> 00:30:18.890
of the things that me and Mr. Mocha connected

00:30:18.890 --> 00:30:22.670
on right away was music. I mean, he was familiar

00:30:22.670 --> 00:30:26.900
with a friend of mine that... had a really, really

00:30:26.900 --> 00:30:28.940
small music career. And one of the things we

00:30:28.940 --> 00:30:31.660
would always laugh about, me and my buddy, was

00:30:31.660 --> 00:30:36.680
whenever a dude would bump into somebody that

00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:39.279
they know is in the music business, and they'd

00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:40.599
be talking to them real quick, and they'd be

00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:43.420
like, okay, you got your demo on you? If the

00:30:43.420 --> 00:30:46.799
person said no, they would just count him immediately.

00:30:47.539 --> 00:30:50.319
Like, how are you not prepared? How do you not

00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:53.720
have a demo on you if this is what you're really

00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:56.380
trying to do? If this is what you're really trying

00:30:56.380 --> 00:31:00.319
to do, at the very least, your demo needs to

00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:02.799
be out in the parking lot in your car. You know

00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:04.779
what I'm saying? You need to always have your

00:31:04.779 --> 00:31:07.500
music on you. You need to always be ready. What

00:31:07.500 --> 00:31:09.680
do they say about luck? Luck is where preparation

00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:13.859
and opportunity intersect. So if you're not out

00:31:13.859 --> 00:31:16.640
there trying to make it happen, making mistakes,

00:31:16.980 --> 00:31:20.420
learning from those mistakes, I'm sorry, it's

00:31:20.420 --> 00:31:23.869
hard for me to have any kind of... Sympathy for

00:31:23.869 --> 00:31:26.430
you. I'll pause you right there and just for

00:31:26.430 --> 00:31:31.009
a quick second. So now you said where luck and

00:31:31.009 --> 00:31:36.109
opportunity meets. No, no, no. I said luck is

00:31:36.109 --> 00:31:38.809
where preparation and opportunity meets. I'm

00:31:38.809 --> 00:31:41.269
sorry. Preparation. All right. And opportunity.

00:31:41.410 --> 00:31:46.730
Excuse me. So let's just say the single guy is

00:31:46.730 --> 00:31:48.930
very prepared and he has five opportunities.

00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:52.039
The couple is very prepared, and they have 500

00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:54.599
opportunities. Who's going to be the luckiest?

00:31:57.920 --> 00:31:59.660
Well, the couple's going to have a lot more work

00:31:59.660 --> 00:32:00.900
because they've got to sort through all those

00:32:00.900 --> 00:32:02.819
opportunities. So now you sound like one of those

00:32:02.819 --> 00:32:05.299
pretty girls. Oh, my God, so many guys want my

00:32:05.299 --> 00:32:11.160
number. Yeah. That's completely different. It's

00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:15.579
not different because they have to filter through

00:32:15.579 --> 00:32:18.440
all the guys, and they're so used to being the

00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:21.670
pretty girl. The unattractive girl over in the

00:32:21.670 --> 00:32:23.809
corner would die to have those problems. Believe

00:32:23.809 --> 00:32:26.430
you me, since I got to filter through all the

00:32:26.430 --> 00:32:29.009
bullshit that comes through for my wife, I would

00:32:29.009 --> 00:32:31.970
love to have that same problem with couples reaching

00:32:31.970 --> 00:32:37.589
out to me. So that's just the way that it is.

00:32:37.690 --> 00:32:39.890
But we can't complain about that. Exactly. So

00:32:39.890 --> 00:32:43.569
that being said, going back to what Socrates

00:32:43.569 --> 00:32:47.210
said and what you were talking about, I think.

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You're seeing couples have it harder because

00:32:50.650 --> 00:32:54.569
they have so much opportunity that it's hard

00:32:54.569 --> 00:32:58.150
for them to choose one. And guys who have less

00:32:58.150 --> 00:33:02.529
opportunity because they get to pinpoint. That

00:33:02.529 --> 00:33:07.589
is very false. There are very, very, very few

00:33:07.589 --> 00:33:09.869
guys because you said it earlier. Based upon

00:33:09.869 --> 00:33:11.750
what you said earlier, I'm going to use your

00:33:11.750 --> 00:33:14.730
own words for you. You have a whole bunch of

00:33:14.730 --> 00:33:16.890
things in your bag to accommodate just about

00:33:16.890 --> 00:33:19.369
any type of couple. That is not pinpointing,

00:33:19.369 --> 00:33:21.569
my friend. That is you having a lot of things

00:33:21.569 --> 00:33:24.190
because you're aware that there's such a variety

00:33:24.190 --> 00:33:27.769
in couples. Fact of the matter is dudes have

00:33:27.769 --> 00:33:31.029
very low criteria. Is she attractive? Yes, I'll

00:33:31.029 --> 00:33:34.970
take it. Couples, you know, like you said, couples

00:33:34.970 --> 00:33:36.809
are going to look at profile. Oh, he only said,

00:33:36.910 --> 00:33:39.579
hey, he only said she's hot. I looked at a profile

00:33:39.579 --> 00:33:41.960
yesterday. This chick had five pictures of her

00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:46.140
ass on there, and she said, I know I got a great

00:33:46.140 --> 00:33:52.099
ass. No need for you to tell me. Well, she put

00:33:52.099 --> 00:33:55.109
that in her profile. So she advertised the cheeks.

00:33:56.210 --> 00:33:59.829
She, you know, so, so you have that many options.

00:33:59.930 --> 00:34:01.690
I've got so many, I'm like, there's no way I'm

00:34:01.690 --> 00:34:03.150
going to put a picture of my dick on there and

00:34:03.150 --> 00:34:04.730
be like, okay, ladies, I know I've got a great

00:34:04.730 --> 00:34:08.389
cock. So many of your economy. No, nobody be

00:34:08.389 --> 00:34:11.449
like, keep, keep sending it in. So I think when

00:34:11.449 --> 00:34:14.630
you see how much opportunity couples have, I

00:34:14.630 --> 00:34:17.449
have to go with Socrates where I say, you can't

00:34:17.449 --> 00:34:20.719
say that. couples have it hard because they have

00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:24.300
so many options damn you got so much money you

00:34:24.300 --> 00:34:26.960
don't know what to do with it you poor people

00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:29.119
got life easy you can only get ramen noodles

00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:40.239
stop complaining Hey, I'm going to jump in here

00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:41.880
because I've been trying to jump in on this.

00:34:41.940 --> 00:34:45.300
Hey, elbow in. Me and Mike was playing on throwing

00:34:45.300 --> 00:34:50.360
rocks at each other. We live for this. So let

00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:54.139
me elbow my ass in this shit. What I'm saying,

00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:57.199
to piggyback on both of y 'all, I think sometimes

00:34:57.199 --> 00:34:59.380
there's a time to compare apples and oranges.

00:34:59.539 --> 00:35:01.599
And this is it. When you're talking about fruit,

00:35:01.780 --> 00:35:04.159
it's okay to compare apples and oranges. And

00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.769
my point is this. The struggle is getting to

00:35:07.769 --> 00:35:10.869
options for men. The struggle for the couple

00:35:10.869 --> 00:35:13.630
is to sift through the options. They're both

00:35:13.630 --> 00:35:16.010
a struggle is what I'm saying. They're all equal

00:35:16.010 --> 00:35:18.309
because I got to get to the point where, like

00:35:18.309 --> 00:35:22.150
Mr. Boca said, man, you know how hard it is to

00:35:22.150 --> 00:35:25.469
get three, four of them to, you know, he's talking

00:35:25.469 --> 00:35:27.619
about people to approach him. Cause he is dark

00:35:27.619 --> 00:35:31.019
Gable. Well, I get zero. So I got to approach

00:35:31.019 --> 00:35:33.559
a hundred percent. And plus my profile. I got

00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:35.840
to work on my profile a little better, but I

00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:38.360
got to work real hard to get you. And like you

00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:41.280
said, I'm lucky to get the kind of woman that

00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:44.159
I like. I'm lucky to kind of get the couple that

00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:47.559
I like. Cause I got to work my ass off to get

00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:50.400
there. Once I'm there, it's easier. Yeah. But

00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:54.059
the whole point is you just, you showed up. it

00:35:54.059 --> 00:35:56.440
started raining and now you mad because you ain't

00:35:56.440 --> 00:36:00.679
got a raincoat on i'm like no bro like your struggle

00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:03.280
is at the end my struggle is in the beginning

00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:21.889
it's all this struggle that's my point This brotherhood's

00:36:21.889 --> 00:36:24.650
for men whose stories need to be told. Say it

00:36:24.650 --> 00:36:29.590
loud. Say it loud. This is who we are. Bold,

00:36:29.730 --> 00:36:33.869
confident, seductive. Dominant and classy. We

00:36:33.869 --> 00:36:39.170
stand tall, never fall. Bull brotherhood. Luxury

00:36:39.170 --> 00:36:40.269
untold.
