What is flow to me? It really embodies who I
am. I mean, I'm really just living in the moment.
Especially at an event. There's no set thing
that I have to do. There's no set person I have
to be with. Besides me running the room, I literally
do whatever the fuck I want to do. And can't
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Let's go. Welcome to another exciting episode
of the Bull Brotherhood. I am one third of your
podcast team, along with Socrates and Brian Morgan.
Brian Morgan is over on O -Faces tonight, podcasting
with Mr. Mocha. So Socrates and I are here with
our guest, Goliath. Welcome, Goliath. What's
going on, y 'all? What's going on there, Ben?
Hey, we're so glad that you're here. You guys
have heard him on previous episode. We were just
at Splash Mocha and him and Socrates had an enlightening
moment. And so we want to focus the attention
on that. But before we get into that, Goliath,
tell us what you're doing. You're doing a whole
lot of things, a whole lot of places to really
move the ethical, non -monogamous bull community
along. And we want to hear more about that. So
tell us more about what you're doing. Well, I'm
doing a little bit of everything nowadays. Right
now, the main thing I'm doing now is I'm... I'm
going to be taking over the Magnum BBC's group.
Some of y 'all may have heard it. We're based
out in Dallas, Texas. The leader and founder,
Yanni, he's been doing it for, I don't know,
20, 30, I don't know how many years, but the
time has come to the changing of the guard. So
that's where I come in to be leading that and
got the first part of me being the official leader
coming up in January. For those that want to
get in contact with me. Yeah, where can we sign
up? Because I need to sign up. Socrates told
me today. Better get fucking signed. I mean,
I like STC, but for people that don't have STC,
I can be found on Twitter, X, whatever you guys
want to call it, at Goliath of DFW for my Telegram.
You just got to know me to get that. So if you
hear about me, reach me on another platform and
then get to me so I can get you that information.
Don't need everybody finding me on that right
now. And when is it? Oh, it's January 16th and
19th in Dallas, Texas. So it's going to be a
nice little event. So I encourage everybody to
come and check it out. I'll be buying my plane
tickets while we do this podcast. For sure. Come
on back. It's going to be well worth it. I promise
you. Yeah. And how much does it cost for a couple
to go to one of those for the weekend? oh you're
putting me on the spot i don't even got the fly
in front of me but we're free right because we're
put we're we're you know we're promoting it oh
we're gonna we're gonna work something out on
the underground you know yeah i got ways i can
pay you i got ways i can pay you Oh, man, the
fans may be listening, man. We do not promote
prostitution or solicitation or anything like
that here. So I'll put that out there right now.
Oh, I was talking about, like, cleaning your
house or something, like vacuuming before. I
don't know what you were insinuating. Oh, man,
you know, there's some things that I'm trying
to ring the sound or something like that. I'm
talking about washing dishes. I can holler while
I vacuum, you know. Okay, okay. I like that.
I'm so dirty. That's so funny. And then, okay,
we've got the Magnum Party going on. What's this
I hear about naughty in New Orleans? Yeah, yeah,
naughty in New Orleans. Yeah, people hear about
the plus one room. Probably know the chocolate
room, but everybody knows the plus one room.
That's where all the... the Black gentlemen are
at. We hold it down, and I'm the leader of that.
We make sure that there's quality men to service
and uphold our standard and make sure that we
please the women who are into us. So that event
is in July. I don't know the exact dates off
the top of my head, but it happens every year.
And last year was a wonderful success. It was
my first time running that, running that, doing
the Hope and Forum for new couples who didn't
know what it was all about. So they got interested
and it was a very successful time. So I encourage
you to come check that out as well. Besides Naughty,
there's also Black the Cap, one of my favorite
events that I do go to. I've been to it four
times and I do host that as well. Another one
of my brothers, my boy, Mr. East Coast out of
Vegas. So yeah, Black the Cap, for those that
don't know, it's in France. This year is the
last week of August. It's a wonderful event.
All -Naked City, lifestyle capital of the world,
in my opinion. But don't just take my opinion.
Come and check it out. I know there's a lot of
brothers and sisters and couples that are going
to be going this year because they've heard the
hype and they want to jump on board. So if you
need information on that, definitely hit me up.
As well on that, it's a magnificent event. It
will blow your mind how open the Europeans are
as opposed to how we do things here in the U
.S. of A. Yeah, refreshing, I'm sure. Oh, very
refreshing. I want to ask a question about that
couples class. How well attended, how well received
was that? Tell us a little more about that. I
think more events should adopt things like that.
I haven't actually been to a class like that,
but in talking in some of the ladies' chats and
some other things, it just seems like that would
be a good addition to many events, this orientation
for couples on how to navigate, you know, in
their interactions with the black gentleman.
So that class, first of all, I didn't even want
to do it. I mean, they said, hey, this is part
of the assignment. And I'm like, I hate public
speaking, but the best way to get comfortable
is to get uncomfortable. So I did it last year
and it became a little bit easier this year.
But so for the class, it was very well attended.
It was way more people than I expected. Before
we had to move into a meeting room, like a conference
room at the hotel. So I turned it into a panel.
I discussed. Of course, like, the fetishization
of single black men and how we are people, not
just body parts. Talk about the different etiquettes
whenever we come into a protest or whenever we
come to rule, the expectations that, like, it's
just like, just because somebody comes to the
room doesn't mean we got to fuck them, right?
Right. I understand that you may want me, but
guess what? The two -way street. I got it. I'm
in for it as well. Yeah, it's a two -way street
and stuff like this. Some people have this. Some
people had a misconception like, hey, this is
because they're in there like auction. Like,
I want this one. We ain't doing that shit. So,
yes, it was a good educational system. And then
also, I allowed them to ask the question that
they had pondering in mind. And in that class,
I say nothing is off limits. So I don't give
a damn. What you got to say, say it. And the
gentlemen that attend, they also were up there
with me so that they weren't just getting my
perspective on things, that they were able to
get various different perspectives from different
regions of men that do lifestyle in different
places. So it was very educational for them,
and it was very well attended. So I look forward
to doing that again. Nice, nice. Well, let's
talk about the interaction then between you and
Socrates. Socrates, do you want to? He he he
practically came running to the room. I don't
know if I was napping, whatever. And he's like,
oh, I just said someone spoke life into me and
changed my life. And hallelujah. You know, so
it was a whole thing, which my husband gets these
these, you know, pivotal moments. We call them
revelations where. Things just come together
in his mind and then he understands them. And
if anyone knows him, they know that he asks a
lot of questions to get to these answers. But
sometimes a conversation and just a couple of
questions will get him there. really exciting
it's like a little fast pass at disneyland or
something so tell us about the conversation babe
between you and goliath where were you at what
was taking place just just go into that and then
we can hear goliath's thoughts as well yeah yeah
i can't wait so we gotta go way back to number
one to add to this man's repertoire and all the
things he does The reason why this came up is
because he also heads up the glory hole and reverse
glory hole room in Splash Mocha. So one of his
many talents, which also happens to be Socrates'
favorite place to be. I guarantee to find you
in there. Yeah, so ladies, if you want to find
it. My dick will be through the hole waiting
for your lovely mouth. So what people don't know
about me is I have ADHD as fuck and I am addicted
to my calendar. Now, I don't run my calendar.
My wife and my office manager do because that's
how terrible I am at it. So but when I'm there,
I own several businesses. We do these podcasts.
I'm a very busy person. I sleep very little.
And so I'm just building kind of like. Giving
people the context of why this matters to me.
And so I'm a very regimented person. And so the
first time I went to Splash, you know, we've
talked about this before. I went to this. I went
there and I was I wasn't concerned about me because
I didn't I didn't understand what Splash was.
I was just thinking, OK, Siren's going to have
a good time and I'm just going to be chilling,
talking to other husbands and, you know, twiddling
my thumbs. Right. And. Come to find out, oh,
you know, I'm a black man and they're down for
it. And so unbeknownst to me, my wife just said,
screw it. I know what he needs. So they just
started, she just started setting appointments.
Well, the ladies kept asking me, like, can I
get some time with your husband? And I was like.
Well, the only way I know how to keep track of
that is to go to Google Calendar. So, you know,
it's my fault originally. And Saturday of that
one, that wasn't the first splash, though. That
was the second one. With the calendar stuff?
Yeah, I didn't do it the first one. Oh, okay.
Are you sure? Yes. I'm positive because I was
much more comfortable with people the second
one. People didn't approach that boldly the first
time that we attended. And that was when your
Achilles was ruptured and you were in the boot.
yeah so so yeah so i made this count you know
and it was basically i think by the time we started
doing the calendar thing it was like friday and
then saturday i had him booked back to back to
back like i came in i brought him a cheeseburger
i was like hey you about wrapping up here because
you're and he's like yeah we're about done i
was like when he's like when's my next appointment
i said 10 minutes like i had this guy every hour
on the hour with no breaks because I thought
that's crazy I thought oh yeah like you know
you know when you're with your partner and you
just know exactly what to do and when to do it
and so something that takes another person two
hours to get to you can get to in 15 minutes
so that timeline was in my head I'm like you
know we like 10 15 to 30 minutes but when you're
playing with someone else you're you're taking
your time you know so I had him and then he never
made it down to the party on Saturday night I
left him. He's like, I'll be down in 20 minutes.
I said, you're not coming down. I know you're
not coming down. It's OK. When I came back up
at 4 a .m., he was asleep on the bed with his
clothes on, his whole bag, you know, around his
shoulder. He thought he thought he was going
to be a badass. No, but that's just that's how
a lot of men. you know, operate. Oh yeah. I'm
so ready for splash. And then they go hard. And
then, you know, that's why everybody tell them
it's a marathon, not a sprint. Yeah. We got guys
here locally. They're like, I'm ready to go.
I'm like, you're not ready. I said, if you can't
make me tap out, you are not ready. So anyway,
that's just the background. Like that's how crazy
I was. And obviously that got, that got old quickly.
And. A lot of women weren't down for that, which
is fine. But so I tried it the other way and
I got into a lot of trouble because, you know,
women saying, oh, he's not paying attention or
he's too busy. He's running all over the place.
And I'm like, yeah, because my whole life is
ran by calendar. So when I'm here, I'm on vacation.
And most people, they're like, dude, I, you know,
they're professionals. You know, they have jobs
or they're business owners or parents, you know,
active lives. And they're like. I do that shit
outside of, you know, a hotel takeover or whatever
I'm doing. I don't want to do that shit when
I'm here, right? So it wasn't working for me.
And I was pissing people off or, like, missing
the people I wanted to or, you know, or didn't
have enough time with the people I wanted to
or, you know, whatever the situation is. And
it wasn't working out for me. And from day one,
everybody was saying, man, just go with the flow.
And I tell you, I hated that statement. I don't
go with the flow at nothing. Like, I used to
surf. And I'm like, you can't go with the flow.
You have to paddle your ass off to catch that
thing. There's no such thing. I'm like, and even
if I'm, you know, kayaking, because I like to
do a lot of water sports things, I still ain't
going with the flow. I'm not a go with the flow
guy. And so it just drove me crazy. This was
our eighth splash. Nothing was working. It was
frustrating people and frustrating my wife. And,
you know, people tell me all kind of reasons
why you should go with the flow and why it works.
And I just said, you know what? I said, the guy
that I know sees the flow, he sees how the flow
works, is Goliath. So I said, I'm going to go
up to him and ask him about it. get his opinion
and i was like and i'm just gonna let you go
from there where i went but goliath but i was
like hey you know i like to schedule i like to
do this i like you know but i'm having some troubles
what do you think and and he just said go with
the flow and then i'll let you you know well
it's some of that too babe that you really like
to have things to look forward to yeah that are
like a sure thing yeah that too exactly so it's
like you know, sometimes just having things on
the calendar, but Goliath and I had a great conversation
via text today about it. And I think that was
really, you know, a lot of what we're going to,
we're going to get into. So. Yeah. So Goliath,
break it down, break it down, you know, tell
the, tell our listeners, you know, what you,
the wisdom you broke down to me, brother. I mean,
so like you, you came to me and you've told me
like, you want, you want, you want things to
be a certain way. Things have to go their way
for you. And when things didn't go that way,
you get frustrated. You think, if it didn't happen
now in my time, it's never going to happen. So
the opportunity is done with. And I'm like, man,
no, you can't be like that. You just got to really
go with the flow. And you gave me that same thing.
Like, man, what do you mean by that? Like, everybody
says that. But the thing is, going with the flow,
the door is always open. Like, it's never shut.
Things don't happen for various different reasons,
whether it be the girl may have just got done
with the play date, so the 2 o 'clock that you
plan to have with her, she still wore out or
still tired from the last one, and she needs
a little more time. Maybe it was a stressful
situation for her where she needs more time to
decompress so that she can give you her full
attention. Or maybe... Oh, she's actually hungry
or she got, she got women problems. It could
be numerous different things. You can't let that
affect your psyche. It just, it just wasn't meant
to happen right then and there. Just, just keep
it pushing. And you've already expressed your
interest. Like you said, you've expressed your
interest already to them. And so that's already
understood by them. Yeah. Go with the flow. Okay,
go ahead. Well, I was just going to say, too,
is a lot of times it's not the lack of interest.
It's just the timing. And when we talked about
it earlier today, I said, you know, the beauty
of flow, not worrying about who you're going
to play with and when. And then when it finally
happens, it's super, super fun. It's like you
and I have talked for how many splashes? Like,
oh, yeah. Like, let's get together. I ain't worried
about it. Eventually, when the time comes, the
time comes. And we'll have a great time. But,
you know, another thing too, Socrates, you say,
we got to stop acting like we're not coming back
to this. You know, we say that with Hawaii or
anything else. It's like, if you don't get to
experience everyone or everybody, oh, I missed
your chance. No, you didn't. What if you didn't
even see that person? You know, you didn't miss
out on something that you didn't get to do. You
know, there's going to be more. There's going
to be more. And that's exactly it. Because, like,
for me, like, for instance, I've been doing Splash,
what, since 2019. And there's people that I've
met since 2019 that we still ain't played yet.
And we know the interest is there. But we in
2025, six years, we haven't played yet. We got
great chemistry. We chat it up all the time.
We see each other. But just things just haven't
lined up for various reasons. But there's no
love lost when you're able to talk. And there's
others where I've met in a short period of time
where the opportunities come, we don't play.
And it was great. It's all about organic timing.
So I always say this. I say this shit all the
time. And I'm not saying this is you, Socrates.
I'm never pressed for pussy. Pussy is always
going to be there. It's always going to be available.
Amen. I know with Splash, it's a hypersexual
time. There are some people that make lists.
okay i want to be able to i want to be able to
connect with this person this time like like
this is a high priority mission for me or whatever
so you won't put your all in to try to make that
happen but sometimes it's just not meant to be
but guess what the door is always open i i would
say that like there's one one situation there's
one lady that i'm very very very highly of I
think very highly of her. We made interest known,
I think, back in 2022. And we kept on missing
each other. One time, I just finished playing.
She was trying to come. We see each other in
passing. I'm like, oh, this is going to be the
time. I'm like, I just got done playing. I got
to go freshen up. I come back. I see her. She's
going with another guy. I'm like, hey, go do
your damn thing. Say have fun. And that happened,
like, at two or three different events back to
back. I mean, it was a slow burn, but guess what?
It built that anticipation. Like, hey, whenever
we get our time together, this is going to be
fucking magical. So one time she come down there
to the Red Story Hall room. She come down there.
She gave me her kiss like she usually do and
stuff like that. She gave me that look. Like,
when is this going to happen? And me being horny
at the time and the room wasn't really as busy.
Shit, my ass looked around. I told one of the
homies, I said, hey, man, I'm about to shut this
damn door. Just stand outside the door. And if
anybody asks, it's some construction going on
in here. Things will be open whenever they be
back open again and shit like that. So, yeah,
I kicked everybody the fuck out. And shit, me
and her had our very first session in the playroom.
And that shit was fucking magical as shit. I
mean. I prefer it than one of our rooms because
the beds are more comfortable. But we had a fucking
fantastic time. And that was, it was everything.
And I enjoyed it very much. We both equally enjoyed
it. It was like, damn, that weight, it was all
well worth it and stuff like that. So sometimes
you just got to, hey, just go with the flow and
shit going to work out for you. And you even
gave me a scenario to tell me about the... Tell
me about the dance situation, Socrates. The what
situation? Whenever you were dancing with somebody's
friend on the dance floor, and you said you had
tried to talk to one of her friends, and you
thought there was no interest. She saw you dancing
with her friend. Exactly. And guess what? You
end up getting somebody that you wanted just
on the flow shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember
that. Yep. That one was nice. So, so, so that,
so that right there was a perfect, a perfect,
you know, the damn word I want to use. Example.
That's a basic word, but perfect example of how
that shit works out for you. Well, and I'm like,
I was telling you earlier on the text too. It's
like, I ran buck wild for many a splashes. And
then I just started being, I think it was Atlanta
last year. Yeah. So 2024 that I had like 17 appointments
booked before I even got there. And then I got
there. And then I got through a few of them.
But then I met someone like Thursday night. And
then I ended up playing with him like six or
seven times. Had to cancel all my damn appointments.
So, you know. And after that I was like, I'm
not doing this appointment shit anymore. Because
I hated canceling on the other people. But I
was like, I want to be where I want to be with
who I want to be. And then. in fort lauderdale
this year before that one i was like you know
what i'm just going to make sure that i am with
who i want to be with where i want to be doing
what i want to be doing at all times and if i
adopt that motto then i'm going to have a great
time so this you know this splash i wasn't feeling
as good so there was a lot of times that you
know i'm sitting with a group of people they're
talking My energy's low. I'm not really comprehending
what they're talking about anyway because I don't
feel great. And I'm just like, you know what?
I'm just going to go to the room. I'm going to
go to the room and rest. You know, Socrates ran
after me a couple times like, you okay? You okay?
I'm like, I just don't feel good. I was like,
nobody's pissing me off. I'm not mad. I'm not
upset. You know, I just don't want to be here
right now. So I should go to bed. Save my energy.
So, you know, if you really think about those
three things, then you really can't go wrong.
you know, and cause that is the definition of
flow is just, Hey, if right now in this space,
you're not enjoying yourself, switch things up,
do something different. But you know, I didn't,
I didn't chase down anybody or, you know, feel
FOMO or anything like that. Cause I was just
being present at all times. I wasn't worried
about what I was doing in the next half hour.
So yeah, I love that. Being present is always
definitely being part of the flow. And so I want
to piggyback on that. So Siren gave her definition
of flow, which I think is brilliant. Goliath,
what is your definition of flow? What is flow
to you? What is flow to me? It really embodies
who I am. I mean, I'm really just living in the
moment. Like, there's no, especially at an event,
like, there's no set thing. That I have to do.
There's no set person I have to be with. Besides
me running the room. I literally do whatever
the fuck I want to do. And can't nobody. Can't
nobody shake me from that. Like. If I want. Like
she said. If I want to go fuck this person for
two hours. And then take me a nap afterwards.
I'll be totally fine with that. And won't get
too fucked when anybody else thinks about it.
Because that's what I want to do. I'm doing what
I enjoy. Not because. Damn, I got to go to this
person's room at 5 o 'clock or they have this
room party here at 2 .30. Shit, I got somebody,
I'm with somebody right now. Do I want to cut
things short? Nah, I'm enjoying my time with
who I'm enjoying it with. And if it's mutually
there. That's what I'm doing. Or if I just want
to just be on my fucking shelf and take me a
nap and watch a college football game or just
be on my phone scrolling, I have the right to
do all that. I mean, I'm just doing whatever
that I want to do with no obligation. I think
that's what flow is. And just letting things
happen organically. So, you know me, I'm a very
tactile person. Like everything... has to make
sense for me, not because of insecurities. I
think a lot of, like you said, I'm not pressed
for pussy either. Like before I got into the
lifestyle, my numbers was high and there was
no problem. There's never been a problem getting
pussy in my life since I was 12. Okay. Okay.
But you know, I mean, my first, I think it was
the second splash. We celebrated a number out
there. Like I reached incredibly high number
of splash. And that was a big thing that siren
did. So it was never about being pressed for
it. It was always about, I am so out of sorts
when I don't know the next thing I can look forward
to where I'm going. So it's hard for me. It was
hard for me to grasp what I wanted to do next.
If it's nothing on the calendar to tell me, cause
I'm not putting stuff on the calendar. That everybody
else wants me to do. I have people like my wife
and my office manager. I pay her to put things
that I say, this is the things I want to do with
my life. Right. So, but I said all that to say
this, what you said to me blew me away, which
is at least always leaves the door open because
the reason, the thing I've told this story before,
and if you know who you are, like, I want you
to know that cause she goes to splash all the
time. that I respect you even more now. I love
it. It wasn't out of problem. This woman didn't
do anything wrong. And I think I talked about
it in our episode when we were at Splash. And
I said, look. So I went in and I saw her. And
I'm this type of person where it's all about
chemistry and vibe to me. All about that. And
I get teased because I'll play with some women
that some guys are like, they got on the ugly
still. And I'll play with some or I'll interact
with some really hot women. And they'll be like,
I won't be interested because the vibes is not
there. That's just me. Some guys go off looks.
It's no problem. I don't care about that. Some
guys go off whatever they own. That's my thing.
I don't care. So, but when, but so I saw this
girl and I rarely catch a vibe with looks. I'm
rarely like, oh, love at first sight type of
person. I'm rarely like, I can look at a woman
and be like, oh, she's hot. But the vibe's not
there because I don't know her, right? There's
no vibe there. She's just attractive. But then
there's this one woman I saw and I said, not
only is she hot, I'm just vibing off or just
watching her, right? So then, boom, that happens.
Now, a lot of times, majority of the time, I'll
meet a woman and then the vibe comes around.
And then there's the attraction, right? And it
has nothing to do with her looks. Now, I have
a preference. We all do. But I'm like that. So
the reason why I was so obsessed with it because
I was like, I rarely get women that I'm like,
oh, I'm vibing with her and I haven't even talked
to her yet. Right? And she was her. So I went
up to her and I was like, okay, I'm going to
talk to her. And I did. And I was like. We had
a great conversation. And eventually I'm like,
you know, so, you know, if you don't mind, you
know, if you're interested, I'd love to play.
And she was like, yeah. And then I can't remember
what she said. She was like, I said it a lot
in the last episode. But what was she saying?
She was like, yeah, let's catch each other later
or something like that. And so we're business
owners. And one of the things that me and Siren
say to each other all the time is fortune is
in the follow up. And so I was like, okay, bet.
I'll follow up with her, right? Saw her the next
day. Hey, how's it doing? You know, get a chance,
you know. What do you say about 2 o 'clock? I'd
love to. Yeah, you know, right now I'm doing
this. You know, let's do it later, you know.
Something, I can't. She kept saying the same
thing every time. And she was like, yeah, let's
catch up later. And I was like, okay. Followed
up the next day. Yeah. You know when I gave up,
Goliath? It was the last day she said it. I was
like the third or fourth day. And I was like,
yeah, you know, next time. You know, I'd love
to. She says, yeah, you know, maybe sometime
later. And I was like, oh, I get it. Now, I thought
that meant, here's the crazy thing. I thought
that meant she wasn't interested. No problem.
Women say that all the time. A few slashes later,
I'm in a room party, like you said. And this
proved your point. But I didn't understand it
at the time. I'm in a room party. And I'm just
doing my thing. She comes in, and I just love
her style. She just comes in, and she just has
this type of swag to her. And she just said a
few things, took her clothes off, and went wild
on me. And I was like, what the? And we had a
great time, and then she moved on to whatever
she was doing. Now, I didn't see what you said
at that time. I was like, what the? I was so
confused. I was all over the place. Because you
were thinking with your actual brain and that
was the time that you were supposed to be thinking
with your dick. I'm just thinking with my dick.
That was when you were supposed to shut your
mind off and think with your dick. And you need
to get that said. He's thinking too much with
his brain at Splash. Maybe that's why you need
that calm down period. Come into Splash. Don't
think with your brain so much. Well, so the reason
why I said all that, guys, is because when he
said that, I didn't have something to hold on
to. And I had an instance when I followed up
with someone and it made me feel like she was
just trying to reject me. But now, if I don't
have a schedule, what he said was, it leaves
the door open. So my mind easily said, oh. Then
every time you talk to somebody, talk to them
with the goal in mind of opening the door. And
when the door is open, I make sure that every
interaction says that door is wide open. Right?
It could be I'm not attracted to him. He's not
my type. But he's really cool. And I enjoy his
podcast. Or they don't even know I have a podcast.
He's really dressed nice. I like what he dresses.
Whatever the case may be. You know, or. We played
and she was like, it's so amazing. I hope I get
to play when I'm getting, whatever it is. If
now that my, my brain grasped on every internet,
every interaction with that person, I'm doing
everything I can to be my most authentic self.
And then, so now all I need to do is just make
sure that I do my best to keep that door open.
And that changed everything. Like it changed
my, All my demeanor about everything. Yeah. I'm
glad I was able to instill that wisdom into you
so that you can apply that. And so other aspects.
That takes away my stress. Tell me why. Because
you fucking stressed me out at Splash with this.
You know, your nickname. That was during sex.
Those noises were during sex. No, your nickname
is Squirrel, right? The ladies call you that,
okay? So if you are going to go with this new
mantra, like that's really going to help everybody.
that is like, okay, well, when's he going to
dart off next? But if you're just trying to like
pay attention and be present and be in the moment,
like I told you about Fort Lauderdale, like you
navigated that perfectly. And then this one,
you know, I wasn't feeling good. So I wasn't
around you. You know what I mean? So it just
grows from there. But every time you like get
a new piece of the puzzle for what works for
you, you know, that just makes you more attractive
and it makes more women come to you, you know?
Like we were in Fort Lauderdale. We were, we
had talked about, you know, just chilling a little
bit more and we were in the pool and it was on,
I think it was Thursday during the day, you know,
before we took over. Or maybe it was on Wednesday
because we usually come in on Tuesdays and we're
crazy. So we were, we were chilling. He had,
you know, I wasn't with him. He had the attention
of three lovely ladies when one of his favorites
walked in and I just. kind of went up beside
him and i said remember dick daddy like you are
already here with these three ladies and me she
will come to us and say hello i was like just
stay here don't start twitching or nothing like
just just chill and he did and guess what she
got her towel settled her husband settled the
whole thing and then she came right over and
joined us right so you got to have the company
of four ladies plus your wife you know so just
little things like that of seeing how it does
work when you just breathe and are in the moment
like that so just more things to add to his understanding
just help him to you know to understand you know
understand Yeah, and I couldn't be around him
at this last one, so sorry, ladies, if I was
just not feeling well. But the ladies took good
care of him. I heard some feedback. I was like,
go, release the hound. But what night was that
that you talked to Goliath then? And how, tell
us the difference between before you talked to
him and after at that splash. Oh yeah. I mean,
and like, how did you navigate the remainder?
You got that advice. So to answer the first,
the first part before it kind of, and to address
some of the things you said before, like I'm
not like, if I'm in front of you talking to you,
I'm really interested in you, but I, you know,
I, I'm not the type of person that can hear X,
Y, and Z behind me and not look and hear somebody
else. Know somebody, see somebody walk by that
I know really well and not say hello or smell
some really good food and not be curious. And
so if that's all of these things going on, some
of you guys call it overwhelmed. You know, like
a lot of people say, oh, I just got overwhelmed
because you have all these sensations. Overstimulated.
Or overstimulated. I don't get overstimulated.
I just get extra curious. So when everybody else
gets overstimulated or nervous or the situation
is too big for them, I just get more curious
and more curious and more curious. And sometimes
I'm supposed to be focused on the person in front
of me. It doesn't mean I'm not fully in what
they're saying because my brain is so crazy.
I'm processing all of that. Body is responding
to looking over here, thinking this way, moving,
shifting. But now what this does is it gives
me a goal. And that's all I needed. I wasn't
a squirrel. I wasn't all that other stuff. I
didn't have a goal. Because if you think about
that splash, you don't think about the splash
that I had all the appointments. I was chilled
as fuck. You don't remember that, Siren, because
you were having the time of your life. Because
the first one, you were so nervous. And the second
one, you were right. I think it was the second
one. You went crazy because you were like, oh,
shit, this is for reals. But I was chilled as
fuck. Because why? I got a 2 o 'clock. So I go
get my lunch. I'll take care of you. I got to
do this. And I'm excited about the 2 o 'clock.
None of the women, like, I'm not. I'm not the
type of person, well, let's see what happens.
No, if I see you, if I'm attracted to you, well,
then I'm kind of, I'm the bull. I like to take
leadership. I'm going to, we're going to send
each other through the process. Now, it's not
like every single time's perfection and, you
know, the sun's coming out and fireworks are
going off. I'm not saying that, but I was cool
as fuck because I had something to grab hold
to. If I don't have a player point. Then I'm
going with my, me and my wife have routines.
We get up in the morning. We go to breakfast
together. Then we go, then, you know, then we
have do whatever in between. Then we have lunch.
We reconnect, you know. Then we do everything
in between. And then we go down at night. And
then we have our outfits. And we do the walk.
I'm terrible at the walk because I'm ADHD as
fuck. But, you know what I mean? We're supposed
to walk and not be distracted. And I'm terrible
at that. I knew in between those things, I had
my play dates. And then after 10, it's the play
rooms. And before this last one, I stopped. I
had decided before I came, I'm not going to do
the play rooms this time. As much. Besides the
Glory Hill room. So I'm not going to do all the
other rooms. I used to do almost all of them
because I loved them all. And I decided, okay,
so we do all that. Everything was planned out.
If after 10, I'm going to walk through all the
rooms. I'm going to get lucky. And then if I
could take them up to a room, I will because
I like the one -on -ones. And then every other
time, glory hole. So glory hole, then walk around,
get lucky maybe, check on my wife, talk to the
friends. Glory hole, walk around, play, talk
to some friends, use the bathroom, check on my
wife. Glory hole, walk around. I'm not going
to lie. I love it. This is what's going on. Yeah.
The thing that revolutionized me is now I have
something to hold on to in front of everybody.
I don't care who it is, if it's staff, if it's
hotel staff, if it's my best friend, if it's
my wife, if it's a play partner, if it's a stranger
off the street, I know, okay, I'm leaving the
door open. So from Thursday to Saturday night,
I'm leaving the door open. And that helped me
tremendously. Helps calm me down so I can be
like, I don't worry about the food over there.
I'm leaving the door open in front of this woman.
I don't worry about my friend who already have
a door open that's walking by. That door is open
already. I'm working on this door being open
with this person. And I don't care about, okay,
I checked my watch. I got plenty of time for
the episode, you know, because we're podcasting.
We're doing, you know, I'm on other people's
podcast. You know, so I'm like, I'm not worried
about that because while I'm in front of this
person, I'm opening their door. And then. Once
I need to leave because my wife's calling me
or I have an appointment or I need to go, whatever,
then I can end that conversation. Hopefully the
door was made wider or opened or whatever. That's
revolutionary for me because that's what I needed
to hold on to. But I also think, and I want you
guys to talk about this, I think it helps a lot
of other people for a lot of other reasons. I
just can't imagine them because I want my listeners
to maybe think about some of them because...
That's all I helped. It was like it helped this
big problem, and that's it. But I'm sure there's
other benefits to doing that. To going with the
flow? Well, just the mentality of leaving the
door open. Always going with the flow, but always
leaving the door open for interactions with people.
I think that would really help a lot of other
people. I think people don't talk to certain
people because maybe they're not interested.
Well, what if you just left the door open? and
had a conversation with somebody, and next thing
you know, it might turn into a friendship, a
business partnership, or hell, you might be turned
on by somebody you're not normally playing with.
You know what I mean? Well, you just named them
all, so what do you mean you don't know? You
just did it. I mean, I'll say this. I mean, I
understand leaving the door open, but some people,
I mean, that's going to be a whole other podcast
thing I just thought about, but some people you
want the door to be closed on. Mm -hmm. some
some people you just like no fuck all that you
ain't never getting this fucking done well and
i've been coaching the ladies on that because
i said you are it's kind of like this when i
you know got divorced from my first husband i
swore to myself if i wasn't 100 interested in
a guy i would let him go immediately you know
and even if i was only interested in him for
a week you know whatever but if i wasn't 100
on it i was gonna like let him go because guess
what someone the love of his life could be around
the corner and i'm wasting his time you know
so it's a favor to them so i told the ladies
i said if you're not interested in a guy you
know i said If you're nice about it and you aren't
rude, there ain't no guy that's going to like
not let you come back and say, you know, I wasn't
interested before, but I've been watching you.
And now I am interested if you'd like to give
it another shot, you know. But in the time being,
don't say later or these things if you don't
mean it. Just simply say, you know, I appreciate
you, but I'm just not interested. That is such
a simple line. And it's helped me so much. But
it took me a few splashes because, you know.
I'd be chatting up a dude and then I meet him.
There's no vibe. And then I feel bad. So I was
just like, I got to just tell him that because
there is other women that do want to play with
him and he's chasing me around and I'm not interested.
That's not fair to the other women that do want
to spend time with him or to him. So you're doing
people a favor by just being truthful with them.
And we got to get used to, you know, dealing
with. you know, like you said, to get comfortable,
you got to get uncomfortable. So, you know, and
then, and then that way, if, if someone, you
know, for whatever reason you're, you want to
shut the door and keep it shut, you can with
just that simple line, you know, and I've, I've
haven't had any guys come back and, you know,
try to, you know, cram the door open after I've
said, Hey, you know, I'm just not interested.
So I think that's a simple and effective way
to do it. and you know everyone's worried about
feelings and stuff i was like well you know not
everybody is for everybody there but there is
something for everybody there so you just have
to kind of get used to that and the lifestyle
is like not everybody's going to be your cup
of tea or vice versa so and it's okay there's
there's plenty there's plenty of people there
to get to know so but leaving the door open too
you know like like you said also Maybe where
I do kind of feel like I try not to feel bad
about it. But a couple of times this has happened
to me where I've closed the door on a guy and
then I end up playing with his roommate and then
he walks in. in the middle of i'm having the
best time ever with his roommate and i kind of
go oh shoot like that kind of feels a little
awkward but i'm also like well it is what it
is and then his or his roommates like doesn't
know that i turned his roommate down like the
guy i'm playing with and he's like bragging about
what a good time he had or whatever and then
he walks in he's like oh is this the girl that
you were talking about earlier and like you had
such a good time with and he's like yeah and
then the guy's like oh and i and i do feel bad
about that but you know you just it's what if
he spends a block what if he spends a block and
like what if he's like damn that ass looking
good up in the air like damn i see how you're
slapping that ass and watching that well i was
watching her watching you suck that dick like
i had to try again like let's let's revisit this
has that ever happened to you like no they just
look disappointed and they try to get out of
the room as fast as they can i'm just getting
another drink i'm getting out of here i'm getting
out of here and i don't care i think when one
thing for me at splash is if you have a roommate
that's equal equal airspace in there so i said
you know if your roommate needs to come in and
do whatever they need to do it's their room too
i don't i don't want to be the cause of like
someone getting shut out of their room but that
usually they're like come in get their drink
and get the fuck out now if it's somebody I've
had guys, too, just lay on the bed scrolling
their phone the whole time. Not even watching
us. Not even paying attention. So, you know,
or sleeping. You know, all kinds of situations.
So that's very interesting when you're going
to have a one -on -one and, you know, the roommate's
in there. But I don't mind either way. But, no,
I've never had them try again after they saw
the hot action. They just look uncomfortable
and leave. Respecting that boundary, sir. That's
solid, man. Yeah, what other things might be
a benefit of, like, leaving the door open, do
you think, besides just play? Shit, I mean, genuine
friendship. Some people, like, I'm a connection
person. Like, I like knowing people. just more
than just I wonder what else is going on in your
life if they're open to that because not everybody's
open to that some people are just like hey I
just want to fuck keep it all sexual and that's
it I don't want you to know nothing about my
personal life I don't want you to know what the
fuck I work at my kids and my business ventures
they want to keep all that shit separate and
that's totally fine but I think like there's
some people like you don't know as the conversation
starts going You don't know if there's potential
for anything else because you pick up on the
signs. I mean, I know I pick up on the signs
and shit like that. So for me, I mean, I'm cool
with... Maybe somebody's going to end up coming
to my party. They may not be able to get that
time with me in a splash environment or anything
like that, but they're like, okay, I've heard
about your party. Tell me about this. Oh, I've
got to do this, this, this. You should come to
Nadi. You should come to Black the Cap or whatever.
So that could build that type of relationship
with them or connection with them. So it doesn't
always have to be sexual. I mean, some people,
ideally, that's what you may want from them,
but it may not start off as that and then eventually
turn into that. Well, and and to another thing
I think of as a woman is when guys just leave
that door open, it gives me more people that
I can go to if I if I need something, if I need
a guy to walk with me or, you know, somewhere.
or, you know, any safety issues. You know, you
just have more people looking out for you. So
when you're just kind and genuine to everyone
and leave that door open, you know, or for mentorship,
you know, like maybe some guy's not my cup of
tea, but they're like, you know, they have a
lady friend that's like, oh, you know, I want
to talk more about this. And they're like, well,
that Simon chick, like I never played with her,
but she's got this podcast. She's got other things
going. Maybe you could talk to her. So there's
all just kinds of. of ways that we can help each
other in this community besides with our private
parts. They're not so private at these events,
right? But, you know, it's a community of, like,
helping people, you know, get to their other
goals, too, outside of that area. So, yeah, just
the genuine friendships. Like, we have people
there that I feel really close to and genuine
friendships, and we've never even played. So,
you know, it's great. Or you may travel to their
city and then you may have a connection there
and get a little one -on -one or something like
that. Get some dinner, give you some good tips
on some things, life advice, that type of thing.
It's more than just pussy and dick. It's endless
possibilities. I like pussy and women love dick.
Yeah, it's endless possibilities, though, of
what could be connected. And then you know that
those people, it's always someone that you can
talk to. You know, like, you know, if you ran
into them somewhere, you know, they know kind
of your whole, you know, underground secrets.
So it's always somebody that you can have to
talk to that you know is like minded in that
openness, too. So, Socrates, you got anything
else to say? No, I had one question, but it was
a personal question. But before we get to that
last question. Did you have anything else to
say about it or your wisdom on, you know, telling
people to, you know, this is the way to go if
you're going to go to events like this or just
even in life? I mean, hey, there's no, hey, my
shit ain't mine. I ain't the golden rule, nothing
like that. So, hey, some people know how to flourish
when doing appointments, and that's just a thing.
They just angle on it, and that's what the fuck
they do. It works for you. If all means go that
way. But it's just a different perspective. I
mean, I hear a lot of people be talking about,
I got this appointment or I got this list. If
I don't do this, it's a failure and all that
type of shit. No, it's not. I mean, like, it
ain't got to be like that. So there's nothing
more than that for me. Well, I appreciate it.
I think I covered all the bases. Yeah, we did.
And, you know, I hope our listeners got something
out of that for sure. Write us, you know, we'd
love to hear from you. We love to hear some ideas
on episodes or stuff you want to talk about.
This is the Bull Brotherhood podcast, but we
want to talk about everything ethical, not monogamy
and relationships. So, you know, it's just our
perspective. Siren, did you have anything else
to add before I ask this personal question? No,
I just think definitely, you know, like one of
the tags that we need to have is like, I just
think of that. That three parts, if that helps
you, let me know. I would like to know if that
helps anyone else of the being where you want
to be with who you want to be doing what you
want to be doing, you know? And I think that
will, that will serve you well to make sure that
you're taking care of yourself too. That splash,
you know, a lot of people were talking about,
you know, making more time for rest, making more
time for chilling, you know? So, and knowing
that you'll be back again, you'll be back again.
That's it. Oh, thank you. Thank you. All right.
So here's my question. So, you know, like I say,
everyone else, everybody knows I love the Glory
Hill Room. So what do you think? So there's been
some times when some woman will, I mean, these,
you know, it's always amazing. And I'm so grateful
to these lovely women, no matter what, you know,
color, age, look, race, it doesn't matter. But
I want your... I want your opinion on it. So
sometimes I've, I've gotten, you know, some fellatio
from a lady and she wants to figure, see the
guy on the other side. Right. And I'll go clean
myself up and they'll be like, Hey, would you
like to play? And I'm like, Oh fuck. Because
she did an amazing job, but I am not attracted
to this woman. What, what do you think? What
do you think about that? Cause sometimes it was
like, I think it was Fort Lauderdale. I was like,
This woman did an amazing job. And I'm not sure
which one it was. Anyway, I was like, this woman
did an amazing job. And I'm not attracted to
her, but she deserved it. And I played with her,
and it turned out to be amazing. Right? I don't
advise anybody to do that. I'm not sure. But
I'm like, it turned out amazing. But it's a really
tough situation for me. I do advise that. What?
Because I've done that with guys. Yeah? I don't
know. It's like, I don't. I don't know. I want
to see what Goliath thinks about it because I'm
just like, I kind of feel obligated. I don't
want to play with you out of obligation, you
know, but you did an amazing job, you know? Okay.
Okay. So, okay. This is how we're going to go
with that one right there. So, I mean, me personally,
I love getting my dick sucked. Like, that's like,
if you suck a great dick, like, that shit can
take you so far in life in general. Amen, brother.
That shit is fucking masterful. So, for me, if
a woman sucked my dick good enough, but, okay,
time out, time out. So, it's a different situation.
So, it's a little bit different. Because you
don't know who the fuck it is. Right. And you
come back around, like, oh, it was her who sucked
my dick. Like, it's not my speed, but fuck, she
was sucking the fuck out of my dick. Right. Like,
and mine gets played that ticker, like, I wonder
what else she could do. Like, it's like... It's
like the whole concept of the fucking glory hole
to begin with, like the reverse glory hole for
ladies. The ladies don't know what the fuck they're
getting fucked by. They just know they're just
getting some dick. They come in there, they get
some dick. Some ladies will come out and be like,
okay, who's fucking me? And I'll point to this
guy over there, like, ain't no way that guy was
fucking me. I said, I would never fuck him in
a million years. I'm like, that was the one that
was giving you all that good dick. And they look
and they're like, damn, I missed it. I would
never gave him a chance. But it's... But they're
glad that it happened in the situation it did.
Right. Just like my situation. Same with the
dark room. Yeah. Yeah. Same with the dark room.
There was the best one in there was a guy when
I met him the next day. You know, I said, hey,
come find me. You know, I want to meet you. Then
he found me and I was like, this guy, no way.
You know what I mean? But he was the best one.
So it's like. Navigated as if you were blind.
You wouldn't know, you know? No, I mean, I did
that and it was amazing. She was great. And I'm
glad I did it. But I was like, I have had some
situations where I was like, but the only two
times I genuinely. needed to go like i genuinely
was like i'm in here too long i gotta go meet
my wife you know so it worked out for me but
i was like the next time i do that i'm just gonna
i'm i'm just gonna let it happen and i did and
i was glad i did it but i i wanted goliath's
tape on it and your take what's your take you
said the same thing yeah just i mean play as
if you as if you were blind like if you're feeling
great and you know everything about it it's like
in the dark room i i mean there was a bunch of
dudes that i was like you know why did it just
passed over but we had a great time you know
so but that just goes back to my sermon about
how i love an average dude like one of my favorite
play partners is like five five you know glasses
nerdy you know a lot of ladies just go oh yeah
he don't got muscles and he's not six six and
you know but he's a great time so I'm just like
hey if you don't you know some of these ladies
oh I passed this guy over because of this I said
well I'll take him I've had some great times
with with guys that that other ladies were passing
over for attraction reasons so I really try to
get in there and give them a shot I don't think
I've had too many. You know what? I was like,
I've said it before, too. I was like, there's
been a couple of guys that had stars in my eyes
for them. And then I played with them and I was
disappointed. So that's why I'm like, the attraction
ain't everything all the time. It's about that
vibe and that chemistry once you get going, you
know? Right. So. I mean, yeah. So I'll say this.
If somebody's sucking my dick, I've had it. In
my years of lifestyle where a woman was sucking
my dick so damn good, I'm like, shit, man, I'm
obligated to give you this damn dick. Like, I
want to give you this dick because you just made
my dick. Like, a throat goat is a fucking, guys
appreciate that shit so fucking much. Like, it's
just, I got to call me a throat goat tonight
the way I'm feeling right now because I want
my dick sucked. Like, that shit makes me feel
so good. Like, damn, now I got to give you some
extra good dick. Because the effort that you
just put in to suck on my dick or whatever. So
sometimes you may do that one -off that you're
like, I would never fuck you. But hey, come on.
You never know. You never know. So, well, we
have to flow right into our ending now. So we
appreciate you being on here. We'll put your
socials in the notes so that people can contact
you for the Magnum party and everything else
you've got going on. But we appreciate you being
on tonight. And I can't do all the sultry things
like Brian Morgan, but good night to everyone.
Thank you for listening. Good night, y 'all.
This is who we are. Confident and seductive.
Dominant and classy. We stand tall, never fall.
Bull brotherhood. Luxury untold.