It was my first splash and there was this girl
and to this day when I see her something in me
just it just electrifies she's she has this kind
of southern feminine swag I don't know what you
want to call it that just gets me going so she
was one of the first women I said hey you know
if you're you know if you're you know you're
okay with it I'd like to you know play with you
that's how I said it to you nervous stuttering
She said, oh, yeah, it'd be great. Yeah, let's
catch up later. We're business people, me and
Siren. One of the biggest things we say to each
other all the time is, fortune is in the follow
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Let's go. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen,
and welcome to another informative episode of
the Bull Brotherhood podcast. I'm the one and
only Sigma Male Brian Morgan, the lone wolf coming
at you as one third of the podcast family, along
with the beautiful couple of Siren and Socrates.
Ladies and gentlemen, how you doing? Doing good.
Doing real good, real good, Unc. What's good
with you and welcome back from a, from what I
hear, an exciting tour of Houston, Texas and
this Splash Mocha, another Splash Mocha event.
How was it, y 'all? Man, it was, you know, I
always say, people ask me, what's your favorite
one? I'm always like the last one I went to.
But, you know, Houston is the favorite location
for sure. But, you know, we always learn. We
always go in there with some goals, like mental
and emotional goals to achieve. We never go in
there with numbers or anything like that. We're
always in there like, how can we improve ourselves?
That kind of thing. And we got a lot. We have
a lot. What is it about Houston that makes it
your favorite? Siren, you want to go first? I
just already have a special place in my heart
for the Houston men. They always take real good
care of me inside and outside of Splash. And
then I think, too, in Fort Lauderdale, I just...
Before I went there, I went there with three
things that I wanted to make sure that I achieved.
In the past, I really did focus on numbers. I
wanted to get a lot of play going. And then,
you know, once you kind of get that craziness
out of your system, you can slow down and really
think about what you want, like you say, evolve.
So I went in there with the mentality of making
sure I was where I wanted to be with who I wanted
to be doing what I wanted to be doing. So that
really worked well in Fort Lauderdale. And I
damn near nailed it. And then in Houston, I think
I had it going, but then I wasn't feeling well.
So I didn't get to execute according to what
I wanted perfectly. And there was little hiccups.
But overall, I think that Houston is just a great
place with great people. There's a lot of local
people that are really great. and a lot of local
men especially. The ladies are very supportive
that are from the area. A lot of them I'm blessed
to call friends. So that's really what makes
Houston my favorite. And that was her first splash.
That was her first and second splash. Oh, really?
Oh, yeah, yeah. When we first came, that was
the first time that Houston was where we started.
Okay. Back to the birthing of Splash Mocha for
me. It's also where she got her. named siren
yeah okay so that was like the the i was born
in houston go ahead i'm sorry i was also born
in oh really so that's home just keeps adding
okay okay okay so like the um the baptism and
the rebirth huh right all in one good sounds
like a winner sounds like a winner who did you
meet like new or i mean just give me like a rundown
of pretty much what you did you know From like
the time you got there and to the time you started
playing, et cetera, et cetera. Who'd you meet?
Who'd you wish you would have met? Did you make
some great connections, et cetera? Well, we did
it a little bit differently this time. We had
some business things going on. So Socrates came
in on Wednesday. I came in on Tuesday. And a
gentleman from the area picked me up and, you
know, brought me to the hotel and, you know,
got me settled in. And then, you know, we did
something that was new for us. We don't. We haven't
done a lot. We've each just done it once since
we've been meeting each other, and we have stayed
overnight. So we made a special occasion kind
of thing out of it. I wasn't sure how I would
feel about that, you know, because I have sleep
apnea, I have a CPAP, you know, just different
things. It was more about how I would, if I would
get my rest with someone that wasn't my husband.
in the room with me versus being nervous about
the person you know i felt safe and comfortable
with him but just that process so so that went
just fine and then the next day i just wasn't
feeling i started just like not feeling great
like just lower energy took an i think i i played
around noon a guy came you know on wednesday
from the area but he was also going to be a part
of splash and we played Then I took a nap, and
then about that time it was time to go get my
husband. So I, you know, rode to the airport
with the gentleman that had picked me up, and
we got him to the hotel and, you know, got him
settled in. And then we just started mingling
right away. Finished out the evening with a couple
more local guys from the area that, you know,
because it's Wednesday night, you know, anybody
can come in the hotel. And I had met them previously
at a party, so they... Didn't attend Splash,
but they were there before that. And then by
Thursday morning, I was really not feeling well.
I had some definite, you know, exhaustion and
emotions, you know, just work through just from
not feeling good. Worked through those, you know,
decided that, you know, it was best for me to
just go by what I was talking about. You know,
if I am not feeling well, I need to just go to
the room and rest. I need to not try to push
myself, not try to do a bunch. and Socrates consistently
checked on me throughout the weekend, and I just
kept saying, go play, go play. I'm going to bed
at whatever time I need to go to bed for my body,
and I'll see you when I see you. We do a lockdown
date every month, and that's coming up tomorrow,
where we spend 24 hours just with each other.
We don't talk to nobody else. We may or may not
go anywhere. Usually we just stay at home and
just have some connection time. So I knew that
was coming up. So I was like, you know, here's
the place where we can, you know, be with all
these people. And when we get home, we'll have
our connection time. So he was great. He kept
checking in on me, but I just kept encouraging
him, go play and go have a good time. I did have,
he organized a gangbang for me and another gal
that's from our area that was in attendance.
So anyways, that was a good time. He did a really
good job with that. Usually he has a hard time
not jumping in because he wants to be part of
the fun and the beauty that's going around. But
he did real good just facilitating the gangbang
and letting the other guys have their fun with
us and jumped in a little bit at the end. Got
some good videos and pictures for me to have
as memories. So that's nice. And then I just,
you know. That's what you're supposed to do.
Yeah. Then I just made sure that I had, you know,
good, quiet connections. Room parties, I really
have to gear up for those. They're not. They're
not necessarily my jam. I know a lot of people
love them. They're great. Socrates, he loves
them. He went to a bunch. I didn't go to a single
one and I was perfectly happy with that. I love
my one -on -one connections with guys. I love
that chance to just slow down, talk. Like my
life is very busy outside of Splash. So I think
for me to be able to slow down there and just
relax and then really enjoy whatever moment I'm
in with whoever I'm in it with is really... important
to me and really meets my needs for splash whereas
socrates is a people person he's an extrovert
being around people just charges his battery
so you know we just really both navigated splash
in the way that was best for us and we learned
you know how to navigate it a little bit better
next time you know as a couple or you know run
around separately so we always learn something
we always talk before and after about what worked,
what didn't work, and we just keep improving
on it. So if I hadn't been feeling poorly throughout
and just saving every little bit of energy for
any playtime I could get, then I would have said
it was damn near perfect. So you had a good time
regardless of the situation. And it was very
sweet. Right away on Wednesday, a lady ran up
to me and she was like, siren, siren. I'm so
sorry. I'm just, I'm fangirling. And I was like,
oh, you're fine. You're fine. She's like, me
and my husband, we listen to your podcast all
the time in the car when we're driving together.
And she was just really excited. And so I was
like, oh, I met my first big fan. It was very
sweet. She's a really nice lady. So it's just,
you know, people are getting a lot of benefit
from the podcast that we do. And that's really
what we want is to help our community and to,
you know, give them more knowledge, more encouragement.
And more resources. So if that's being accomplished,
that's all I can ask for. You know, if you know
my name or not, that's, you know, irrelevant.
But if you're getting what you need out of the
podcast that we share, then that's a win for
me. So, Socrates, what about you? Well, it was
a lot, like I say. But I do want to say, first
off, thank you to all the listeners that did
come up to me and share their thoughts and, you
know, how much they are enjoying the podcast.
I want to also encourage you guys, you know,
email us. We're on Telegram. The Bull Brotherhood
is on Telegram. I'll put that link on there.
You know, but I really, really enjoyed that.
I really enjoyed hearing, you know, all of it
was positive, but I'm open to any kind of criticism
you might have that we can get better. Or at
least clarify, nah, that's how we're going to
talk because we're going to be bold. We're going
to say what we believe in. We're going to stand
on business. That was awesome. As far as me,
I was out of sorts in the beginning because she
was not feeling well. Because here's the thing,
you guys. There was one time, the second splash,
I missed my Achilles trying to play basketball.
And I had to go in a boot. And I was towards
the end of it. Like, I wasn't really in a bad
shape. But there was a time where we were thinking
about, I don't know if I can make it. She's like,
look, Fu, if I have to wheel you around in a
wheelchair, we going. And I'm like, okay. So
this is the highlight of her year. We do it three
times a year. It's the highlight of our lifestyle.
And I'm ready to kind of expand, but it's something
that she truly loves. She doesn't get that kind
of treat a lot of other places. And I just really
loved. how well she handled it. I didn't believe
her. She kept saying, I'm fine, Daddy. There's
nothing in the world you can do. Go have fun.
So you got a chance. Go ahead. No, go ahead.
So you got a chance to actually get out there
and maneuver. Of course, she knows that she's
giving you the green light to go out there and
just do your thing. So how did you approach that
situation? I mean, did you go out there and just...
be my typical nephew and get bug wild? Or did
you take some of what Anka's been telling you
and, you know, go out there and play with it
a little bit? Well, Simon would disagree with
it in the way it's explained. So I would say
it's kind of both. I took your advice in the
sense that I have ADHD and it's not an excuse.
I'm working on it, but I really do. And so...
I am kind of a squirrel person. And I took your
advice, Mr. Mocha. I mean, the entire squad.
Pagan. It doesn't matter who you mention. And
I slowed down a little bit. And I tried to sit
in places and just chill and watch. And what
started happening is people started coming to
me. And then I would start getting the buzz.
And then I would get back into my ADHD a little
bit. And then I would stop myself, calm back
down. and chill. And another thing that I did
was huge this time. I didn't do much at all in
the playrooms besides the glory home. That's
my spot. I'm always going to go there. But like
the big playrooms and some of the other wife
watching rooms and all those things, I'm usually
in there and I didn't. I decided this time I
wanted to really start chilling, hanging with
the boys, you know, talking to the squad, seeing,
you know, how they doing, catching up with them.
And really getting to know couples, sitting down
and talking to them for a long time. I speak
Spanish and I don't have an opportunity to practice
my Spanish where I live. So I met a couple where
the husband didn't speak English and the wife
was bilingual. So I was able to kind of practice
my Spanish, you know, and chill with them and
converse and really get to know them. And then
I spent a little bit more, a lot more time in
the room parties. It was much more of a vibe.
It was much more of my vibe. And so, yeah, I
listened to what you said. I sit back a lot more
than I normally do. Now, I think this next one
is going to be people that aren't even going
to recognize me because I see the vision now.
I see what especially you and Mr. Mocha have
been saying. You guys were surely missed, by
the way. You guys were really missed there. Everyone
asked. Everyone asked about you guys. But the
specific advice you guys gave me to sit back,
chill, be observant. Pay attention. And take
a breather. Watch what's going on. That worked
tremendously. But I will say this. Siren, we
used to get into it because the way she wanted
to manage the women I played with, especially
if it's local, was very, very hands -on. And
I would say, look, I don't have a problem with
that. insecure, jealous. They need to know our
bond. They need to know how much we love each
other, you know, but you're doing too much. The
only thing I need you to do is let them know
one thing, and it should be 100 % truth. We are
solid. Like, me and Socrates over there, that's
sealed. There's nothing you can do to take that
man away from me. The only person that's going
to lose Socrates is Siren. That's it. So, she
did that and she did it in her own way and i'll
let her talk about it if she wants to talk about
how but that i think made the difference i didn't
have to go out there chasing anything pursuing
anything follow up you know we're business people
so i had a story to tell and it was my first
it was my first splash and there was this girl
and to this day when i see her something in me
just it just electrifies she's she has this kind
of southern feminine swag, I don't know what
you want to call it, that just gets me going.
So she was one of the first women I said, hey,
if you're okay with it, I'd like to play with
you. That's how I said it to you. Nervous, stuttering.
She said, oh yeah, it'd be great. Let's catch
up later. We're business people, me and Siren.
One of the biggest things we say to each other
all the time is fortune is in the follow -up.
Well, that don't work at Splash Mocha, gentlemen.
Not the way I did. Because I followed up. Yeah,
you know, every time she said, yeah, yeah, let's
catch up later. I followed up two more times.
The third time when she was like, yeah, let's
catch up later. You know when she said it? Sunday
as we're leaving with our luggage. I said, I
said, I'm never, ever doing that again. Now,
funny thing is, I ended up in a room party. And
the first thing she did was trip her clothes
off and jumped on my dick. But that's not the
point. Oh, on this one? No, the next one. Oh.
The one right after that. Because remember, I
was upset about it and everything. I was like,
oh, I'm never doing that again. Oh, okay. So
I said all that to say I didn't have to. Because
I was like, I am not doing that. I'm here. I
know the value I bring. I'm one who masters my
craft. I take pride in it. And I'm a lover of
women. I am in love with my wife. But she knows
I appreciate women's body, their femininity,
their magic, their power, their ability to create
life. She knows that. So that's valuable. That's
something of value. And I don't want to spend
my energy chasing anybody but my wife. Now, I
will pursue you, but I chase my wife all around
here mentally, emotionally. Well, not physically
because I can't keep up with her sexually, but
I just can't keep up with that. But I chased
my wife. I ain't chasing a woman I might not
ever see. I think you're scaring the guys away.
Scaring them away. It's not like that, guys.
It's like that, guys. You'll be fine. You won't
be fine. You'll be fine. I want to speak to the
comfort part. So I think what really helped when
he's referring to is not only what I did in the
ladies' chat, but also what we did in the vent
chat. And I think... More people that are coupled
up would do well to present this in the event
mingle. So I really want to push this. And it's
the idea that especially if you're in an interracial
relationship and you're going to splash, that
just creates a level of. A little bit of a barrier.
You know, people don't quite know how to approach
you because it's very different. A lot, you know,
is like, you know, white couples are going there
to seek a single black man, you know. So when
an interracial couple goes, it's a little bit
different. So what we did is in the chat, I put
a picture of Socrates. This is just in the event
mingles. And I said, hey, we're Siren and Socrates.
We play separately. Stamp of approval. Ladies
go, you know, you don't have to ask my permission.
If you see me, say hi, I'd love to meet you.
And then in the ladies chat, I did that like
a little closer to the event. Then he did the
same thing. He posts some pictures of me. You
know, a couple of us as a couple says, hey, fellas,
this is my wife. You know, be respectful. Tell
it's time to be disrespectful and, you know,
go for it. So I think that really helped. Then
I saw a few other couples follow suit. But it
really, you know, the feedback I heard was it
really helped the couples that did do that. So
that people knew, like, hey, this is how we can
approach them. So there was one couple that was
going to be, you know, a cuckold couple. And
they were going to be there with her boyfriend.
And so she's like, hey, we play separately. We
don't have to ask permission, you know, her and
her boyfriend. So she's like, feel free to approach.
So a few people did that. And I really would
like that to catch on because I think it just
helped people to be prepared so they didn't have
to, you know, wander so much. So if you're a
little on the, of course you can just go up and
ask, Hey, what's your dynamic? You know, how
is this? But it takes away a little bit of that
nervousness when you just know upfront. And a
lot of the ladies said, excuse me, that, that
really, they really appreciated that. And that
gave them the confidence. And they really admired
that to be able for me to just say, Hey, this
is what's going on. You know, go for it. You
don't have to find, and especially because they
couldn't find me. I was in the room, you know,
that would, that able enabled him to, you know,
get a lot of playtime because. You know, if they
would have been trying to find me, I guess they
could have just came to the room, leave a note,
sign up for Socrates. I don't know. But, you
know, they didn't need to ask permission. So
and in the past, I had been kind of like, hey,
I would at least like to be acknowledged first.
And now I'm just like, you know, if you see me,
say hi. So was that a was that a big thing for
you that you were able to feel comfortable enough
to be just like, baby, go do your thing, you
know? No one has to come to me and I kind of
vet them or anything like that. Just do your
thing. I'm good with it. You love me. That's
definitely been an evolution for me over the
last three years because we didn't even play
separately at all until we went to our first
splash about eight months into the lifestyle.
And then it was probably... At least another
six months before we played separately back at
home, and now that's pretty much our go -to most
of the time, unless we're having parties. No,
it was more like a year. Another year? There
was, yeah, because there was three, or at least
three splashes where you were like, you know,
I feel comfortable in Splash because it's this
and it's that, but not out there. Yeah, not at
home. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was just, yeah,
there was just multiple levels of... you know,
my own insecurities that I had to work through
myself and nothing to do with our relationship,
but it just had to do with me overcoming those.
And that's where it's like, you know, Socrates
has referred to it before is that the lifestyle
has been my dojo. You know, he's like, do you
want to get out? Do you want to take a break?
He offers that anytime that I come upon a mountain
that I need to conquer. And I just say, what
do I mostly say to you when you offer that? No,
I need to learn. I need to figure this out anyway.
So I might as well do it now. Yeah, and if it's
not coming up in the lifestyle, if we took the
lifestyle away, it's just going to come out somewhere
else. If I have an area of opportunity, an area
that I need to grow in, it's going to come out
regardless of what I'm involved in in my life.
It's going to come out in my work. It's going
to come out in my friendship somewhere. So I
might as well deal with it head on together as
a team than to just try to eliminate things.
you know, you can't wrap me in bubble wrap forever,
you know? So yeah, it was a, to answer your question,
you know, it was a big jump for me to do that,
but I really felt from Fort Lauderdale to Houston,
like bridging that gap that, you know, and, and
also with me just making sure that I was getting
my own needs met and making sure instead of worrying
about what he's doing, like, why am I not making
sure that I'm having fun and doing what I want
to be doing? So when I focused, it sounds selfish,
but when I actually focused on myself a little
bit more on like what I wanted, then I didn't
have time or space to be jealous or insecure
or worried about anything else, you know? So
yeah, it's just been a good, good growth. So,
and it went great. Had lots of ladies come, you
know, send me messages and say how well he took
care of them. And, you know, I thank them for
giving him a fun time. And, yeah, it was great.
Good deal. Socrates, how long did it take you
once you ventured out to feel, like, totally
comfortable doing, you know, being able to go
out and, hey, just handle business, knowing that
mama's good, you know, she gave you the green
light? Oh, no, I never felt comfortable. That
didn't happen until maybe two days after we got
back. I benefited from the fact a little bit.
Maybe I have the podcast. I've been there. This
is my eighth time. I've got friends in the lifestyle.
You know, I'm halfway decent looking guy. You
know, I think what happened is some things are
compounding. A lot of things I learned from you
guys, my own personal journey. You know, so the
fact that she put that message out, that allowed
a lot to come to me, but I was out of sorts.
The whole time. Because that's my wife. At the
end of the day, I enjoy these women. Some of
these people are my friends. Some of these people
work with us. We've stayed at their homes. This
is more than just a little vacation. But if my
wife's not okay, I'm not okay. And like she said,
I kept checking on her. It's more of like, I'll
stay in. You want me to stay in? I have other
things planned. She took it like I was throwing
it in her face. But I was like, I have things
planned. I need to cancel. Give me a second.
But I'll stay. She's like, no, there's nothing
you can do. You're just going to sit here on
your phone while I'm sleeping. Yeah, it didn't
make any sense. Why would both of us? Well, and
the same was when you had that Fort Lauderdale
experience where. You know, we had a little medication
mix -up, and it was making things not go so well
for Socrates in a number of areas. She can just
say it. My dick wouldn't work. Yeah. You need
to take Cialis, not Tramadol. Pro tip. And then
you were also having digestive issues, too. So,
you know, and you didn't. hold me back you know
I came into the room early a couple of different
times spent time with you put you to bed then
go back out you know I made sure and take care
of you as much as you wanted to be taken care
of but you didn't say oh just stay in the room
with me the whole time I mean then there's no
reason that we should both miss out you know
what are you gonna do while I'm sleeping so It
was good for me to just get some rest. And we
had just gone on another trip right before. So
it all kind of just added up for me. What really
helped, too, is, you know, my boys, man. Michael
C. was just, you know how you do. He was doing
his thing. And I was able to hang out with Pagan.
And I was able to meet some other cats. I don't
know if they want me mentioning their names.
But I can mention Raven because he's going to
be on the podcast. You know, you're going to
get to meet him. He's super cool. So, you know,
those are the things that kind of got me through.
worried about her being, and I was able to enjoy
myself. And honestly, I think probably about
80 % of the people I played with were people
I already played with, like people I'm comfortable
with, people I know. They know I'm worried. I
can just tell them, hey, we can play. But I'm
kind of worried about my wife. Are you okay there,
Uncle? Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. Yeah. I'm good.
So, you know, those people. And then after a
while, I played with some new people I haven't
met, some people I've had my eye on and some
things like that. Then I was more comfortable
because I knew that my friends were checking
on her. I had other people checking on her. She
has plenty of friends because, again, we know
a lot of people here. I mean, they're in Houston.
We have a great, great friend group there, Houston
and Dallas, actually. A lot of people from Dallas
that we now know and we're good friends with.
So that kind of got me through. But I'm out of
sorts seeing my wife because she is the most
jovial and energetic. add splash than anything
so yeah yeah yeah it was weird too that's great
because i just kept getting up and leaving situations
and then he would like i'd be like i'm going
to the room and he would come after me he's like
are you mad at me is everything okay and i was
like i just don't feel good and it was actually
starting to irritate me that he wouldn't believe
me because i was like babe you're not doing anything
wrong and usually you don't get sick until the
end like we'll get swingers flu we've done it
we've been there eight times we We've had it
like six out of eight or five out of eight times.
Right. But remember, we had usually you're cool
through it. Right. But we had gone on a trip
for five days with our family. Then I was only
home for one day and then I left again. And so
I was just worn out. So, yeah, I usually but
you know what? I didn't get full blown sick because
I did take that time. But yeah, I was almost
getting pissed at him for not believing me that
like, I just don't feel good. I love you. I just
don't feel good. Any energy that I have, I'm
saving to like get a few playdates in while I'm
here. We can connect when we get home. But he
was always, you know, making sure I was out of
sorts. Well, I tell you what, I absolutely love
that Socrates. That lets the listeners and the
followers know that, especially the bulls that
have, you know, may have wives or girlfriends
or significant others or whatever, that mama
comes first. I don't give a damn where we are.
She comes first. If she doesn't feel well, I
don't feel well, you know? So that's what makes
what you guys have extra special. It really does.
So I commend you. I commend you for staying by
her side, making sure that she was absolutely
100 % okay, you know, before you went out and
did what you did. So hats off to you, brother.
Yeah, I tell her, look, I say, I don't care if
I'm doing the nastiest, dirtiest, craziest thing
away from you. You know what makes it amazing?
Is I have this amazing woman at home. Because
people don't understand about me. I had a hard
time translating vanilla life to lifestyle, believe
it or not, being the philosopher that I am. I
had a lot of problems because, trust me, I have
been a backup dancer for a rap group. I have
been every kind of thing in a nightclub. I've
owned my own club, salsa dancers. Listen, I can
go to a bar, salsa club, grocery store, and pick
up a woman anytime. I'm not bragging. I'm just
saying, like, that's my past. I have a gigolo,
pickup artist, manosphere past. You know, I was
reading books about picking up women when I was
19 years old. So this is nothing new to me. The
thing what new to me is the new world of lifestyle
and understanding that like my wife is what makes
this sexy and fun and crazy because about 80
% of it I did already before I even knew what
lifestyle was on my single years in between relationships
or before. You know, it's like when you when
you part of a rap group back in the 90s, you
know, I wasn't but like 17 and I was a backup
dancer. They didn't go anywhere. But you're in
Vegas performing and there's 30 year old. damn
near model looking women jumping on you like
that's that that makes an impression on you so
it's not like i'm not used to that i'm not used
to it with a beautiful woman that loves me and
that has had my back when i was broke when i
met her i pay i pay 90 of the bills now but when
i met her she was making way more money than
i was and all i have is my own place my own stuff
but and Just got out of a divorce and just all
this stuff, and she's built me here. No, none
of this is worth her being upset or not feeling
well or us not working out. None of that is worth
that. So I can get that before I've had it. This
is not new to me. It took me a while to translate
the little things from vanilla life to swinger.
It took me longer than it should have. But people
think, oh, he's so insecure. I am insecure. I
was. Because I was like trying to figure out
how to translate it. I'm like, put me in a salsa
club. Put me in a salsa club. And you guys will
start writing, taking notes. Right. Put me in
a hip hop club as the MC. Then you'll see. You
know what I'm saying? Yeah. As far as couples
that were there, did you guys meet some interesting
couples? Talked to anybody interesting? Played
with anyone interesting? And somebody, a couple
that just like just stood out. The couple, the
husband, they were sweet. Well, I said, babe,
there's Joe Biden. So we just went over. That
was that was a good icebreaker. You know, I said,
hello, President Biden. They were, you know,
an older couple, but they had been there the
whole time. And they said it was kind of made
me a little sad because they said this is the
most friendliest interaction that we had had.
And that was Saturday night. So I was like, oh,
that sucks. But also I challenged some of the
new couples. It's like, you also can't just sit
in the corner and expect people to just come
up to you. Like to get biblical on some people,
there's a verse in the Bible that says, if you
want to have friends, you have to show yourself
friendly. And so, you know, sitting in the corner
with your arms crossed. you know, with your face
all mean. I know Socrates made it a special challenge
to go up and talk to some men that were mean
mugging everybody so he can talk about that.
But I don't know. I just, you know, as much as
I could with my mental brain power being, you
know, on 10%, I just really tried to just go
around and just talk to whoever, you know, give
hugs, give smiles. I can't really remember any
super meaningful. you know conversations with
new people just floating around because I again
during the kind of the mingle time my brain was
really not on on all out so if anyone's listening
please forgive me if I you know I did I did say
in the ladies chat if I my face was saying something
I said I was just not feeling good and sometimes
I get overstimulated and I'm just better one
-on -one there's a lady that's been trying to
get to know me I said next splash let's just
go have coffee one of the mornings just you and
me away from everybody because it's just you
know not flowing as well as I want to and I said
I just think I need one -on -one time with you
so sometimes that for me in a crowded area I'm
not so good even though I do love people it's
better for me like I have a whole bunch of friends
and we're all you know just independent strong
women but we don't necessarily get together in
a group we just get together a lot on one -on
-one and we have great times together so sometimes
for me that's that's just what I need versus
managing being a part of a crowd so so you want
to talk about one -on -one time you want to talk
about the mean mugging men mean mugging men the
mmms yeah i can i know but didn't you you were
about to say something no i was agreeing with
siren i was like when i attend an event i much
i much would rather have the one -on -one time
myself and the couple You know, when we just
get a chance to sit down somewhere and talk,
whether it be breakfast in the morning or just,
you know, going up to the room and just sit down
and just have a nice conversation away from the
group. You know, I don't care about being around
the whole crowd scene, as you know. You know,
damn where I am when I get there. So I'm with
you on that one, Sire. I get a lot out of talking
to someone one -on -one. I can really, I can
feel you then when I'm talking to you. You know,
when I can look at you and I can get close to
you and really get to know, know you. You know,
I can, I can tell then, okay, yeah, they're newcomers,
but they really, there's something in them that
wants, that wants and needs to be brought out.
So that's how I am too. But, yeah, tell me about
the mean mugging. Mean mugging men. Well, yeah,
you wanted me to speak on the couples thing.
So I just want to say, before I talk about mean
mugging, I had interactions with several couples
that I just want to say thank you. They were
both, what I noticed is how locked in they were,
how encouraging each one's were, how the husbands
were there, and the smiles on their faces. Because
there's three couples I did some very unique
things with in the play parties, in the playroom,
in the room parties. And the way the husbands
reacted just really warmed my heart. As a stag,
I love that. But the mean mugging guy, so let
me get back to the beginning. So I never said
it like this before, and it kind of made sense
to me where I'm from. When I first... Went to
Splash and Siren was like, look, we were going
to all kind of white gang bangs because where
we live, if you're going to go to a gang bang,
it's going to be all vanilla, all white people.
And it was great. That's no problem. But not
vanilla, you know, white folks, which is great.
And I've got some good friends. Maybe a couple
of Latina guys. Right. Some of them are going
to be coming to some of our parties. They're
great people. Nothing wrong with that. But she's
like, look, and I just said one to her one day,
I said, look, you just need to admit that you
are. you know queen of spades queen of spades
so long story short she said she admitted it
we we went out to a bunch of clubs everywhere
and she's just like i need to find a place specifically
for with black men so i found splash and i was
thinking okay this is for her right i've done
some stuff i've done all kind of crazy stuff
this is for her and so i found it and i was preparing
myself and my mind i was thinking I'm going to
go in there with a bunch of crips and bloods.
Like, I don't know why I was, I just thought
it was going to be some really, and I don't even
put down crips and bloods because I, but I mean,
just really disrespectful, uneducated, unsophisticated,
you know, don't know how to approach men. And
I was horribly wrong. But when I went in there,
I went in there mean mugging. I had my arms folded
and I was, you know, looking around, ready to
fight. And I was blown away at the men's meeting.
And then I was later blown away how the men treated
Siren and how well they all treated each other
and how they lifted each other up. So I said
all that to say I was talking to a fan that came
up to us and he was telling us how much he liked
the podcast and everything. And something about
Mean Muggin came up. Oh, I was talking about
Uncle Work. Because he was there. I was talking
about Uncle Work. And if you listen to the podcast,
you guys, I've talked about Uncle Work before.
But I'll talk about it again. But I was talking
about Uncle Work. He was like, yeah, man, that's
what you did the first splash. And I said, what?
Wait, what? I said, what? What you mean? He said,
man, when you got in there, dude, you looked
like you was ready to fight the first person
that came up to you. And I said, the way I describe
how I felt, I can't deny that. I never felt that.
And Siren never said that. I said, I probably
was. I didn't even notice what you were looking
like. Yeah, because your jaw was dropped looking
at all the other beautiful black men in there.
Nervous -sided. Yeah, so that's all you kept
saying is to all these beautiful black men. Never
seen so many. So what I decided to do right after
he said that was every, there was about three
of them, every, me, there was one dude, man,
I swear, he was sitting down. His wife is beautiful.
I kid you not, he's buff. He's real buff. He
is a body builder. You can just tell, you know.
He ain't got no neck. Like, he's big. And he,
a mean mug, the worst I've ever seen in Splash.
Like, I mean, this guy was, and I said, I'm going
up to him. So I went up to him, sat on the table,
and I started talking to both of them. I talked
to this dude for five minutes and asked him direct
questions. And he answered with shoulder shrugs
and looks and eye movements. And his wife would
have to answer for him. And I just kept talking
to him. And then I just said, hey, you're my
challenge. I just said straight up because he
wouldn't crack. And that's when he said, what
do you mean? And I said, my boy over here told
me when I first started coming, I used to mean
mug people. And I told him, yeah, because I really
felt like I was running too. Because I had bad
experiences in the past. So, and, you know, this
and this and that. And I said, you know what,
man, you owe her a mean mugging. And his wife
said, yes, thank you. She's like, I'm trying
to get some dick. And he's scaring everyone away.
His wife said, yes. And he just looked down like,
I know. And then I was like, hey, man, like,
I came up to you because I don't care. Yeah.
Well, let me say this, though. Think about it.
Think about it. put yourself in his shoes you're
you're a bodybuilder so i'm assuming the the
physique look like that of the pros that that
i see all the time when i go to shows okay probably
a big dude muscles everywhere vascular and veiny
etc etc cut up and you are sitting at an event
where you are going to watch your wife get beat
down by these black guys And you're probably
feeling some kind of overweight. You know what
I mean? Big time. So I can kind of see maybe
a couple going to one or two events and the husband
be, you know, he's mean mugging, but underneath
he's scared as fuck. He's scared as hell because
he doesn't, he's really feeling some kind of
weight. Like, you know, am I enough for her?
You know what I mean? She's going to get some
good dicks. She's going to open up. I'm probably
going to see her in another light, and it's fucking
with me. So that's where the mean mugging comes
from. So for you to go up to him like that and
be able to, I'm not going to say break him, but
you were able to make him feel comfortable, correct?
Yeah. In some way, shape, or form, you were able
to make him feel comfortable. I got him to talk.
That's good. I got him to talk, and he was here.
Eventually, he still didn't talk a lot, but he
was like, hey. Why are we here but not to do
that? You know, he's like, that's why I'm here.
Bodybuilding guys, unless they're talking to
personal trainers or the cats that lift, they
really are, they live in their own world, all
right? I mean, you know, I'm not a bodybuilder
or anything like that, but I'm an avid weightlifter
who lifts like a bodybuilder. So I know how they
live. I know they live. Very, very extrovert.
You know, for you to get him to do that, good
job. Good job, brother. Both of y 'all sound
like you had a very, let me see, how do I say
it, a very uplifting experience this time at
this event. Yeah. Very, very uplifting. I just
kept checking in with myself, too, because, you
know, I will not lie and say, you know, every
time that he's playing that I've been like 100
% overjoyed. Because I get FOMO or jealous or
whatever. But this time I really just kept checking
in myself and being like, okay, I don't feel
well. Am I truly wanting him to go? How am I
feeling about it? And I just felt good that he
could go. And then the experiences that I did
have were so meaningful. I played with one guy
that several ladies were turning up their nose
to because he was a little bit... He was a colorful
individual. He was a little bit maybe flamboyant.
And so some of the women, you know, they're like,
that's not my cup of tea. And I thought, why
not? Let me just see what this guy's all about.
And it ended up being one of the best play experiences.
We laid on the bed fully clothed for 45 minutes
and just talked. And I could tell he was kind
of nervous to start. And then... I could tell
we both had creative minds and just the way we
were speaking just started flowing together.
And it was just very uplifting and encouraging
and positive conversation. And then when we got
to the actual play, you know, he was talking
a lot about he likes to please. And sometimes
when guys say that, I go, okay, yeah, we'll see.
In my mind, you know, because I'm like, sometimes
they're just talking, you know. But he truly,
the way he spoke really was the way he played.
And it just flowed so well, and it was a great
time. And I just went back to a couple of those
ladies, and I said, that may not be everybody's
cup of tea, but damn, it was a good cup of tea
for me. So I really enjoyed that. And I love
finding those gold nuggets, those guys that are
just like a diamond in the rough. Maybe other
people don't see it. But when you get them in
that place where you can discover what they're
really about one -on -one, then you just really
meet some cool people that have some cool things
to offer. Well, those are your friends, Mommy,
because trust me, he got it in. Not all the women
got that. I didn't say that. No, I'm just being
funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I didn't because
he was bold. He was bold and he would just be
like, you're hot and I would like some time with
you. And he said it in such like... not a cocky
way, like I'm going to get you, you know, but
just like in a very complimentary and just like.
Very complimentary way. Yeah. And a fun way.
Like it was, it was a very different vibe. Like
some of the guys are just super confident. Some
kind of come off a little cocky. And then he
just said it in such a fun, like, Hey, I'm here
to have a good time. You know, he showed up late
for our gang bang. He was invited to that. And.
He was otherwise occupied, and by the time he
got there, we were all done. So he said, well,
you guys are hot and beautiful, and I hope that
I get some time with you later. And then he just
walked away, and then he followed up a couple
more times, and it finally worked out. So I just
encourage the ladies, sometimes when someone's
just a little bit different than what you're
used to, just give them a try. Give them a try.
It's like trying a new food. You just might like
it. You might find something there that... you
weren't expecting. So that's some good, that's
good. Some good knowledge and wisdom there for
the ladies listening. Very good. Anything else
that needs to be brought out from this after
action report, ladies and gentlemen. Actually,
I think we just need to do a part two because
we haven't even hit the scratch the surface.
There are so many other things that we discovered
together that happened that, you know, we learned
that we want to share. So I think that what we
should probably do, because we could probably
go another hour and a half. So we probably just
end it there if you want and then do a part two.
Yeah. Or maybe we can wrap it into the podcast
that we're going to do with Raven. Yeah. Yeah.
I think it's. Yeah, we could do that. That's
kind of what you're alluding a little bit. There's
more. That'll work. Okay. But either way. We
can do that one. We can, you know, there's, there's
lots of time that we can create more. So. That'll
work. That'll work. Well, then, if there's nothing
more to be said, ladies and gentlemen, you've
heard it from Siren and Socrates. Sounds like
Splash Mocha Houston was an absolute blast and
also a very, very uplifting event for them as
a couple. I'm so proud of them. Again, ladies
and gentlemen, thank you for joining us tonight.
I am the Sigma Male himself, along with Brian
Morgan, along with the family, Siren and Socrates.
Until we talk again, to all the boys out there,
to my brothers, I bid you good night. And to
all my sexy hot wives, you know the deal. Good
morning. Until we meet again, y 'all, good night.