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It was my first splash and there was this girl

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and to this day when I see her something in me

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just it just electrifies she's she has this kind

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of southern feminine swag I don't know what you

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want to call it that just gets me going so she

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was one of the first women I said hey you know

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if you're you know if you're you know you're

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okay with it I'd like to you know play with you

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that's how I said it to you nervous stuttering

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She said, oh, yeah, it'd be great. Yeah, let's

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catch up later. We're business people, me and

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Siren. One of the biggest things we say to each

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stags, and open -minded explorers, we see you.

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Let's go. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen,

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and welcome to another informative episode of

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the Bull Brotherhood podcast. I'm the one and

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only Sigma Male Brian Morgan, the lone wolf coming

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at you as one third of the podcast family, along

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with the beautiful couple of Siren and Socrates.

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Ladies and gentlemen, how you doing? Doing good.

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Doing real good, real good, Unc. What's good

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with you and welcome back from a, from what I

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hear, an exciting tour of Houston, Texas and

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this Splash Mocha, another Splash Mocha event.

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How was it, y 'all? Man, it was, you know, I

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always say, people ask me, what's your favorite

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one? I'm always like the last one I went to.

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But, you know, Houston is the favorite location

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for sure. But, you know, we always learn. We

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always go in there with some goals, like mental

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and emotional goals to achieve. We never go in

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there with numbers or anything like that. We're

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always in there like, how can we improve ourselves?

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That kind of thing. And we got a lot. We have

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a lot. What is it about Houston that makes it

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your favorite? Siren, you want to go first? I

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just already have a special place in my heart

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for the Houston men. They always take real good

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care of me inside and outside of Splash. And

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then I think, too, in Fort Lauderdale, I just...

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Before I went there, I went there with three

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things that I wanted to make sure that I achieved.

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In the past, I really did focus on numbers. I

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wanted to get a lot of play going. And then,

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you know, once you kind of get that craziness

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out of your system, you can slow down and really

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think about what you want, like you say, evolve.

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So I went in there with the mentality of making

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sure I was where I wanted to be with who I wanted

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to be doing what I wanted to be doing. So that

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really worked well in Fort Lauderdale. And I

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damn near nailed it. And then in Houston, I think

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I had it going, but then I wasn't feeling well.

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So I didn't get to execute according to what

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I wanted perfectly. And there was little hiccups.

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But overall, I think that Houston is just a great

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place with great people. There's a lot of local

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people that are really great. and a lot of local

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men especially. The ladies are very supportive

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that are from the area. A lot of them I'm blessed

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to call friends. So that's really what makes

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Houston my favorite. And that was her first splash.

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That was her first and second splash. Oh, really?

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Oh, yeah, yeah. When we first came, that was

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the first time that Houston was where we started.

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Okay. Back to the birthing of Splash Mocha for

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me. It's also where she got her. named siren

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yeah okay so that was like the the i was born

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in houston go ahead i'm sorry i was also born

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in oh really so that's home just keeps adding

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okay okay okay so like the um the baptism and

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the rebirth huh right all in one good sounds

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like a winner sounds like a winner who did you

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meet like new or i mean just give me like a rundown

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of pretty much what you did you know From like

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the time you got there and to the time you started

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playing, et cetera, et cetera. Who'd you meet?

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Who'd you wish you would have met? Did you make

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some great connections, et cetera? Well, we did

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it a little bit differently this time. We had

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some business things going on. So Socrates came

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in on Wednesday. I came in on Tuesday. And a

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gentleman from the area picked me up and, you

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know, brought me to the hotel and, you know,

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got me settled in. And then, you know, we did

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something that was new for us. We don't. We haven't

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done a lot. We've each just done it once since

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we've been meeting each other, and we have stayed

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overnight. So we made a special occasion kind

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of thing out of it. I wasn't sure how I would

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feel about that, you know, because I have sleep

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apnea, I have a CPAP, you know, just different

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things. It was more about how I would, if I would

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get my rest with someone that wasn't my husband.

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in the room with me versus being nervous about

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the person you know i felt safe and comfortable

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with him but just that process so so that went

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just fine and then the next day i just wasn't

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feeling i started just like not feeling great

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like just lower energy took an i think i i played

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around noon a guy came you know on wednesday

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from the area but he was also going to be a part

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of splash and we played Then I took a nap, and

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then about that time it was time to go get my

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husband. So I, you know, rode to the airport

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with the gentleman that had picked me up, and

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we got him to the hotel and, you know, got him

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settled in. And then we just started mingling

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right away. Finished out the evening with a couple

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more local guys from the area that, you know,

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because it's Wednesday night, you know, anybody

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can come in the hotel. And I had met them previously

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at a party, so they... Didn't attend Splash,

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but they were there before that. And then by

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Thursday morning, I was really not feeling well.

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I had some definite, you know, exhaustion and

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emotions, you know, just work through just from

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not feeling good. Worked through those, you know,

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decided that, you know, it was best for me to

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just go by what I was talking about. You know,

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if I am not feeling well, I need to just go to

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the room and rest. I need to not try to push

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myself, not try to do a bunch. and Socrates consistently

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checked on me throughout the weekend, and I just

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kept saying, go play, go play. I'm going to bed

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at whatever time I need to go to bed for my body,

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and I'll see you when I see you. We do a lockdown

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date every month, and that's coming up tomorrow,

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where we spend 24 hours just with each other.

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We don't talk to nobody else. We may or may not

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go anywhere. Usually we just stay at home and

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just have some connection time. So I knew that

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was coming up. So I was like, you know, here's

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the place where we can, you know, be with all

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these people. And when we get home, we'll have

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our connection time. So he was great. He kept

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checking in on me, but I just kept encouraging

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him, go play and go have a good time. I did have,

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he organized a gangbang for me and another gal

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that's from our area that was in attendance.

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So anyways, that was a good time. He did a really

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good job with that. Usually he has a hard time

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not jumping in because he wants to be part of

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the fun and the beauty that's going around. But

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he did real good just facilitating the gangbang

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and letting the other guys have their fun with

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us and jumped in a little bit at the end. Got

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some good videos and pictures for me to have

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as memories. So that's nice. And then I just,

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you know. That's what you're supposed to do.

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Yeah. Then I just made sure that I had, you know,

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good, quiet connections. Room parties, I really

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have to gear up for those. They're not. They're

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not necessarily my jam. I know a lot of people

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love them. They're great. Socrates, he loves

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them. He went to a bunch. I didn't go to a single

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one and I was perfectly happy with that. I love

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my one -on -one connections with guys. I love

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that chance to just slow down, talk. Like my

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life is very busy outside of Splash. So I think

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for me to be able to slow down there and just

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relax and then really enjoy whatever moment I'm

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in with whoever I'm in it with is really... important

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to me and really meets my needs for splash whereas

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socrates is a people person he's an extrovert

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being around people just charges his battery

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so you know we just really both navigated splash

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in the way that was best for us and we learned

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you know how to navigate it a little bit better

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next time you know as a couple or you know run

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around separately so we always learn something

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we always talk before and after about what worked,

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what didn't work, and we just keep improving

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on it. So if I hadn't been feeling poorly throughout

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and just saving every little bit of energy for

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any playtime I could get, then I would have said

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it was damn near perfect. So you had a good time

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regardless of the situation. And it was very

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sweet. Right away on Wednesday, a lady ran up

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to me and she was like, siren, siren. I'm so

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sorry. I'm just, I'm fangirling. And I was like,

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oh, you're fine. You're fine. She's like, me

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and my husband, we listen to your podcast all

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the time in the car when we're driving together.

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And she was just really excited. And so I was

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like, oh, I met my first big fan. It was very

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sweet. She's a really nice lady. So it's just,

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you know, people are getting a lot of benefit

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from the podcast that we do. And that's really

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what we want is to help our community and to,

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you know, give them more knowledge, more encouragement.

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And more resources. So if that's being accomplished,

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that's all I can ask for. You know, if you know

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my name or not, that's, you know, irrelevant.

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But if you're getting what you need out of the

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podcast that we share, then that's a win for

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me. So, Socrates, what about you? Well, it was

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a lot, like I say. But I do want to say, first

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off, thank you to all the listeners that did

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come up to me and share their thoughts and, you

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know, how much they are enjoying the podcast.

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I want to also encourage you guys, you know,

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email us. We're on Telegram. The Bull Brotherhood

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is on Telegram. I'll put that link on there.

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You know, but I really, really enjoyed that.

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I really enjoyed hearing, you know, all of it

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was positive, but I'm open to any kind of criticism

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you might have that we can get better. Or at

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least clarify, nah, that's how we're going to

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talk because we're going to be bold. We're going

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to say what we believe in. We're going to stand

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on business. That was awesome. As far as me,

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I was out of sorts in the beginning because she

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was not feeling well. Because here's the thing,

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you guys. There was one time, the second splash,

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I missed my Achilles trying to play basketball.

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And I had to go in a boot. And I was towards

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the end of it. Like, I wasn't really in a bad

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shape. But there was a time where we were thinking

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about, I don't know if I can make it. She's like,

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look, Fu, if I have to wheel you around in a

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wheelchair, we going. And I'm like, okay. So

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this is the highlight of her year. We do it three

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times a year. It's the highlight of our lifestyle.

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And I'm ready to kind of expand, but it's something

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that she truly loves. She doesn't get that kind

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of treat a lot of other places. And I just really

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loved. how well she handled it. I didn't believe

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her. She kept saying, I'm fine, Daddy. There's

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nothing in the world you can do. Go have fun.

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So you got a chance. Go ahead. No, go ahead.

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So you got a chance to actually get out there

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and maneuver. Of course, she knows that she's

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giving you the green light to go out there and

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just do your thing. So how did you approach that

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situation? I mean, did you go out there and just...

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be my typical nephew and get bug wild? Or did

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you take some of what Anka's been telling you

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and, you know, go out there and play with it

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a little bit? Well, Simon would disagree with

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it in the way it's explained. So I would say

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it's kind of both. I took your advice in the

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sense that I have ADHD and it's not an excuse.

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I'm working on it, but I really do. And so...

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I am kind of a squirrel person. And I took your

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advice, Mr. Mocha. I mean, the entire squad.

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Pagan. It doesn't matter who you mention. And

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I slowed down a little bit. And I tried to sit

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in places and just chill and watch. And what

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started happening is people started coming to

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me. And then I would start getting the buzz.

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And then I would get back into my ADHD a little

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bit. And then I would stop myself, calm back

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down. and chill. And another thing that I did

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was huge this time. I didn't do much at all in

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the playrooms besides the glory home. That's

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my spot. I'm always going to go there. But like

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the big playrooms and some of the other wife

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watching rooms and all those things, I'm usually

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in there and I didn't. I decided this time I

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wanted to really start chilling, hanging with

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the boys, you know, talking to the squad, seeing,

00:14:48.070 --> 00:14:50.169
you know, how they doing, catching up with them.

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And really getting to know couples, sitting down

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and talking to them for a long time. I speak

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Spanish and I don't have an opportunity to practice

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my Spanish where I live. So I met a couple where

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the husband didn't speak English and the wife

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was bilingual. So I was able to kind of practice

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my Spanish, you know, and chill with them and

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converse and really get to know them. And then

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I spent a little bit more, a lot more time in

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the room parties. It was much more of a vibe.

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It was much more of my vibe. And so, yeah, I

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listened to what you said. I sit back a lot more

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than I normally do. Now, I think this next one

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is going to be people that aren't even going

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to recognize me because I see the vision now.

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I see what especially you and Mr. Mocha have

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been saying. You guys were surely missed, by

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the way. You guys were really missed there. Everyone

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asked. Everyone asked about you guys. But the

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specific advice you guys gave me to sit back,

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chill, be observant. Pay attention. And take

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a breather. Watch what's going on. That worked

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tremendously. But I will say this. Siren, we

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used to get into it because the way she wanted

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to manage the women I played with, especially

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if it's local, was very, very hands -on. And

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I would say, look, I don't have a problem with

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that. insecure, jealous. They need to know our

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bond. They need to know how much we love each

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other, you know, but you're doing too much. The

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only thing I need you to do is let them know

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one thing, and it should be 100 % truth. We are

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solid. Like, me and Socrates over there, that's

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sealed. There's nothing you can do to take that

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man away from me. The only person that's going

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to lose Socrates is Siren. That's it. So, she

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did that and she did it in her own way and i'll

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let her talk about it if she wants to talk about

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how but that i think made the difference i didn't

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have to go out there chasing anything pursuing

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anything follow up you know we're business people

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so i had a story to tell and it was my first

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it was my first splash and there was this girl

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and to this day when i see her something in me

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just it just electrifies she's she has this kind

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of southern feminine swag, I don't know what

00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:18.559
you want to call it, that just gets me going.

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So she was one of the first women I said, hey,

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if you're okay with it, I'd like to play with

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you. That's how I said it to you. Nervous, stuttering.

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She said, oh yeah, it'd be great. Let's catch

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up later. We're business people, me and Siren.

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One of the biggest things we say to each other

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all the time is fortune is in the follow -up.

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Well, that don't work at Splash Mocha, gentlemen.

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Not the way I did. Because I followed up. Yeah,

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you know, every time she said, yeah, yeah, let's

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catch up later. I followed up two more times.

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The third time when she was like, yeah, let's

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catch up later. You know when she said it? Sunday

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as we're leaving with our luggage. I said, I

00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:07.880
said, I'm never, ever doing that again. Now,

00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:10.819
funny thing is, I ended up in a room party. And

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the first thing she did was trip her clothes

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off and jumped on my dick. But that's not the

00:18:15.700 --> 00:18:18.299
point. Oh, on this one? No, the next one. Oh.

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The one right after that. Because remember, I

00:18:20.619 --> 00:18:22.500
was upset about it and everything. I was like,

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oh, I'm never doing that again. Oh, okay. So

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I said all that to say I didn't have to. Because

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I was like, I am not doing that. I'm here. I

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know the value I bring. I'm one who masters my

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craft. I take pride in it. And I'm a lover of

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women. I am in love with my wife. But she knows

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I appreciate women's body, their femininity,

00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:50.839
their magic, their power, their ability to create

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life. She knows that. So that's valuable. That's

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something of value. And I don't want to spend

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my energy chasing anybody but my wife. Now, I

00:19:01.420 --> 00:19:04.299
will pursue you, but I chase my wife all around

00:19:04.299 --> 00:19:07.740
here mentally, emotionally. Well, not physically

00:19:07.740 --> 00:19:09.940
because I can't keep up with her sexually, but

00:19:09.940 --> 00:19:11.859
I just can't keep up with that. But I chased

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my wife. I ain't chasing a woman I might not

00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:15.599
ever see. I think you're scaring the guys away.

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Scaring them away. It's not like that, guys.

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It's like that, guys. You'll be fine. You won't

00:19:20.619 --> 00:19:23.680
be fine. You'll be fine. I want to speak to the

00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:27.819
comfort part. So I think what really helped when

00:19:27.819 --> 00:19:31.460
he's referring to is not only what I did in the

00:19:31.460 --> 00:19:34.119
ladies' chat, but also what we did in the vent

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chat. And I think... More people that are coupled

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up would do well to present this in the event

00:19:43.819 --> 00:19:46.980
mingle. So I really want to push this. And it's

00:19:46.980 --> 00:19:50.779
the idea that especially if you're in an interracial

00:19:50.779 --> 00:19:53.940
relationship and you're going to splash, that

00:19:53.940 --> 00:19:57.480
just creates a level of. A little bit of a barrier.

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You know, people don't quite know how to approach

00:19:59.799 --> 00:20:02.460
you because it's very different. A lot, you know,

00:20:02.460 --> 00:20:04.660
is like, you know, white couples are going there

00:20:04.660 --> 00:20:07.720
to seek a single black man, you know. So when

00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:10.000
an interracial couple goes, it's a little bit

00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:13.799
different. So what we did is in the chat, I put

00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:16.640
a picture of Socrates. This is just in the event

00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:19.380
mingles. And I said, hey, we're Siren and Socrates.

00:20:19.519 --> 00:20:23.200
We play separately. Stamp of approval. Ladies

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go, you know, you don't have to ask my permission.

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If you see me, say hi, I'd love to meet you.

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And then in the ladies chat, I did that like

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a little closer to the event. Then he did the

00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:35.079
same thing. He posts some pictures of me. You

00:20:35.079 --> 00:20:37.400
know, a couple of us as a couple says, hey, fellas,

00:20:37.579 --> 00:20:40.660
this is my wife. You know, be respectful. Tell

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it's time to be disrespectful and, you know,

00:20:43.240 --> 00:20:46.119
go for it. So I think that really helped. Then

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I saw a few other couples follow suit. But it

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really, you know, the feedback I heard was it

00:20:52.099 --> 00:20:55.069
really helped the couples that did do that. So

00:20:55.069 --> 00:20:58.730
that people knew, like, hey, this is how we can

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approach them. So there was one couple that was

00:21:00.869 --> 00:21:03.609
going to be, you know, a cuckold couple. And

00:21:03.609 --> 00:21:05.430
they were going to be there with her boyfriend.

00:21:06.089 --> 00:21:08.769
And so she's like, hey, we play separately. We

00:21:08.769 --> 00:21:10.990
don't have to ask permission, you know, her and

00:21:10.990 --> 00:21:13.569
her boyfriend. So she's like, feel free to approach.

00:21:13.789 --> 00:21:15.730
So a few people did that. And I really would

00:21:15.730 --> 00:21:18.210
like that to catch on because I think it just

00:21:18.210 --> 00:21:21.349
helped people to be prepared so they didn't have

00:21:21.349 --> 00:21:25.029
to, you know, wander so much. So if you're a

00:21:25.029 --> 00:21:26.950
little on the, of course you can just go up and

00:21:26.950 --> 00:21:29.170
ask, Hey, what's your dynamic? You know, how

00:21:29.170 --> 00:21:31.069
is this? But it takes away a little bit of that

00:21:31.069 --> 00:21:33.410
nervousness when you just know upfront. And a

00:21:33.410 --> 00:21:35.970
lot of the ladies said, excuse me, that, that

00:21:35.970 --> 00:21:37.730
really, they really appreciated that. And that

00:21:37.730 --> 00:21:40.210
gave them the confidence. And they really admired

00:21:40.210 --> 00:21:43.109
that to be able for me to just say, Hey, this

00:21:43.109 --> 00:21:45.609
is what's going on. You know, go for it. You

00:21:45.609 --> 00:21:47.150
don't have to find, and especially because they

00:21:47.150 --> 00:21:49.029
couldn't find me. I was in the room, you know,

00:21:49.029 --> 00:21:52.089
that would, that able enabled him to, you know,

00:21:52.089 --> 00:21:54.640
get a lot of playtime because. You know, if they

00:21:54.640 --> 00:21:56.140
would have been trying to find me, I guess they

00:21:56.140 --> 00:21:57.440
could have just came to the room, leave a note,

00:21:57.579 --> 00:22:02.519
sign up for Socrates. I don't know. But, you

00:22:02.519 --> 00:22:04.079
know, they didn't need to ask permission. So

00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:06.259
and in the past, I had been kind of like, hey,

00:22:06.380 --> 00:22:08.660
I would at least like to be acknowledged first.

00:22:09.099 --> 00:22:11.579
And now I'm just like, you know, if you see me,

00:22:11.579 --> 00:22:14.980
say hi. So was that a was that a big thing for

00:22:14.980 --> 00:22:18.339
you that you were able to feel comfortable enough

00:22:18.339 --> 00:22:20.819
to be just like, baby, go do your thing, you

00:22:20.819 --> 00:22:24.890
know? No one has to come to me and I kind of

00:22:24.890 --> 00:22:27.069
vet them or anything like that. Just do your

00:22:27.069 --> 00:22:30.410
thing. I'm good with it. You love me. That's

00:22:30.410 --> 00:22:33.029
definitely been an evolution for me over the

00:22:33.029 --> 00:22:37.849
last three years because we didn't even play

00:22:37.849 --> 00:22:41.109
separately at all until we went to our first

00:22:41.109 --> 00:22:42.769
splash about eight months into the lifestyle.

00:22:42.970 --> 00:22:46.029
And then it was probably... At least another

00:22:46.029 --> 00:22:49.890
six months before we played separately back at

00:22:49.890 --> 00:22:52.470
home, and now that's pretty much our go -to most

00:22:52.470 --> 00:22:53.930
of the time, unless we're having parties. No,

00:22:53.930 --> 00:22:56.670
it was more like a year. Another year? There

00:22:56.670 --> 00:22:59.269
was, yeah, because there was three, or at least

00:22:59.269 --> 00:23:01.589
three splashes where you were like, you know,

00:23:01.609 --> 00:23:04.210
I feel comfortable in Splash because it's this

00:23:04.210 --> 00:23:06.170
and it's that, but not out there. Yeah, not at

00:23:06.170 --> 00:23:08.869
home. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was just, yeah,

00:23:08.910 --> 00:23:11.660
there was just multiple levels of... you know,

00:23:11.660 --> 00:23:13.759
my own insecurities that I had to work through

00:23:13.759 --> 00:23:16.099
myself and nothing to do with our relationship,

00:23:16.119 --> 00:23:19.640
but it just had to do with me overcoming those.

00:23:19.759 --> 00:23:23.039
And that's where it's like, you know, Socrates

00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:25.019
has referred to it before is that the lifestyle

00:23:25.019 --> 00:23:27.039
has been my dojo. You know, he's like, do you

00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:28.200
want to get out? Do you want to take a break?

00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:31.599
He offers that anytime that I come upon a mountain

00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:34.279
that I need to conquer. And I just say, what

00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:37.759
do I mostly say to you when you offer that? No,

00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:41.009
I need to learn. I need to figure this out anyway.

00:23:41.329 --> 00:23:44.470
So I might as well do it now. Yeah, and if it's

00:23:44.470 --> 00:23:46.269
not coming up in the lifestyle, if we took the

00:23:46.269 --> 00:23:47.750
lifestyle away, it's just going to come out somewhere

00:23:47.750 --> 00:23:52.410
else. If I have an area of opportunity, an area

00:23:52.410 --> 00:23:55.210
that I need to grow in, it's going to come out

00:23:55.210 --> 00:23:58.109
regardless of what I'm involved in in my life.

00:23:58.210 --> 00:23:59.730
It's going to come out in my work. It's going

00:23:59.730 --> 00:24:02.170
to come out in my friendship somewhere. So I

00:24:02.170 --> 00:24:04.710
might as well deal with it head on together as

00:24:04.710 --> 00:24:08.430
a team than to just try to eliminate things.

00:24:09.259 --> 00:24:11.519
you know, you can't wrap me in bubble wrap forever,

00:24:11.700 --> 00:24:14.759
you know? So yeah, it was a, to answer your question,

00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:17.259
you know, it was a big jump for me to do that,

00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:20.920
but I really felt from Fort Lauderdale to Houston,

00:24:21.019 --> 00:24:24.440
like bridging that gap that, you know, and, and

00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:27.460
also with me just making sure that I was getting

00:24:27.460 --> 00:24:31.740
my own needs met and making sure instead of worrying

00:24:31.740 --> 00:24:34.559
about what he's doing, like, why am I not making

00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:36.819
sure that I'm having fun and doing what I want

00:24:36.819 --> 00:24:39.680
to be doing? So when I focused, it sounds selfish,

00:24:39.740 --> 00:24:41.980
but when I actually focused on myself a little

00:24:41.980 --> 00:24:45.240
bit more on like what I wanted, then I didn't

00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:50.220
have time or space to be jealous or insecure

00:24:50.220 --> 00:24:54.140
or worried about anything else, you know? So

00:24:54.140 --> 00:24:57.200
yeah, it's just been a good, good growth. So,

00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:00.720
and it went great. Had lots of ladies come, you

00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:03.900
know, send me messages and say how well he took

00:25:03.900 --> 00:25:05.900
care of them. And, you know, I thank them for

00:25:05.900 --> 00:25:08.839
giving him a fun time. And, yeah, it was great.

00:25:09.099 --> 00:25:12.880
Good deal. Socrates, how long did it take you

00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:15.799
once you ventured out to feel, like, totally

00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:18.440
comfortable doing, you know, being able to go

00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:22.279
out and, hey, just handle business, knowing that

00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:24.220
mama's good, you know, she gave you the green

00:25:24.220 --> 00:25:26.519
light? Oh, no, I never felt comfortable. That

00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:28.299
didn't happen until maybe two days after we got

00:25:28.299 --> 00:25:32.000
back. I benefited from the fact a little bit.

00:25:32.019 --> 00:25:34.220
Maybe I have the podcast. I've been there. This

00:25:34.220 --> 00:25:37.059
is my eighth time. I've got friends in the lifestyle.

00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:40.980
You know, I'm halfway decent looking guy. You

00:25:40.980 --> 00:25:43.619
know, I think what happened is some things are

00:25:43.619 --> 00:25:45.359
compounding. A lot of things I learned from you

00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:48.839
guys, my own personal journey. You know, so the

00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:51.380
fact that she put that message out, that allowed

00:25:51.380 --> 00:25:54.599
a lot to come to me, but I was out of sorts.

00:25:55.150 --> 00:25:58.210
The whole time. Because that's my wife. At the

00:25:58.210 --> 00:26:00.930
end of the day, I enjoy these women. Some of

00:26:00.930 --> 00:26:03.009
these people are my friends. Some of these people

00:26:03.009 --> 00:26:08.069
work with us. We've stayed at their homes. This

00:26:08.069 --> 00:26:11.809
is more than just a little vacation. But if my

00:26:11.809 --> 00:26:14.869
wife's not okay, I'm not okay. And like she said,

00:26:14.970 --> 00:26:16.789
I kept checking on her. It's more of like, I'll

00:26:16.789 --> 00:26:18.930
stay in. You want me to stay in? I have other

00:26:18.930 --> 00:26:20.990
things planned. She took it like I was throwing

00:26:20.990 --> 00:26:22.869
it in her face. But I was like, I have things

00:26:22.869 --> 00:26:24.509
planned. I need to cancel. Give me a second.

00:26:24.990 --> 00:26:28.230
But I'll stay. She's like, no, there's nothing

00:26:28.230 --> 00:26:30.930
you can do. You're just going to sit here on

00:26:30.930 --> 00:26:33.869
your phone while I'm sleeping. Yeah, it didn't

00:26:33.869 --> 00:26:36.130
make any sense. Why would both of us? Well, and

00:26:36.130 --> 00:26:38.230
the same was when you had that Fort Lauderdale

00:26:38.230 --> 00:26:41.289
experience where. You know, we had a little medication

00:26:41.289 --> 00:26:45.049
mix -up, and it was making things not go so well

00:26:45.049 --> 00:26:49.490
for Socrates in a number of areas. She can just

00:26:49.490 --> 00:26:51.950
say it. My dick wouldn't work. Yeah. You need

00:26:51.950 --> 00:26:55.509
to take Cialis, not Tramadol. Pro tip. And then

00:26:55.509 --> 00:26:58.529
you were also having digestive issues, too. So,

00:26:58.769 --> 00:27:02.569
you know, and you didn't. hold me back you know

00:27:02.569 --> 00:27:04.670
I came into the room early a couple of different

00:27:04.670 --> 00:27:07.089
times spent time with you put you to bed then

00:27:07.089 --> 00:27:10.049
go back out you know I made sure and take care

00:27:10.049 --> 00:27:12.089
of you as much as you wanted to be taken care

00:27:12.089 --> 00:27:14.809
of but you didn't say oh just stay in the room

00:27:14.809 --> 00:27:16.450
with me the whole time I mean then there's no

00:27:16.450 --> 00:27:19.170
reason that we should both miss out you know

00:27:19.170 --> 00:27:21.759
what are you gonna do while I'm sleeping so It

00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:23.819
was good for me to just get some rest. And we

00:27:23.819 --> 00:27:26.619
had just gone on another trip right before. So

00:27:26.619 --> 00:27:29.180
it all kind of just added up for me. What really

00:27:29.180 --> 00:27:31.180
helped, too, is, you know, my boys, man. Michael

00:27:31.180 --> 00:27:33.460
C. was just, you know how you do. He was doing

00:27:33.460 --> 00:27:35.140
his thing. And I was able to hang out with Pagan.

00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:38.339
And I was able to meet some other cats. I don't

00:27:38.339 --> 00:27:39.740
know if they want me mentioning their names.

00:27:39.819 --> 00:27:42.180
But I can mention Raven because he's going to

00:27:42.180 --> 00:27:43.960
be on the podcast. You know, you're going to

00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:47.559
get to meet him. He's super cool. So, you know,

00:27:47.619 --> 00:27:50.559
those are the things that kind of got me through.

00:27:51.350 --> 00:27:53.509
worried about her being, and I was able to enjoy

00:27:53.509 --> 00:27:56.329
myself. And honestly, I think probably about

00:27:56.329 --> 00:27:58.950
80 % of the people I played with were people

00:27:58.950 --> 00:28:00.529
I already played with, like people I'm comfortable

00:28:00.529 --> 00:28:03.210
with, people I know. They know I'm worried. I

00:28:03.210 --> 00:28:05.690
can just tell them, hey, we can play. But I'm

00:28:05.690 --> 00:28:07.589
kind of worried about my wife. Are you okay there,

00:28:07.630 --> 00:28:09.809
Uncle? Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. Yeah. I'm good.

00:28:10.450 --> 00:28:13.250
So, you know, those people. And then after a

00:28:13.250 --> 00:28:16.089
while, I played with some new people I haven't

00:28:16.089 --> 00:28:18.549
met, some people I've had my eye on and some

00:28:18.549 --> 00:28:21.619
things like that. Then I was more comfortable

00:28:21.619 --> 00:28:24.799
because I knew that my friends were checking

00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:27.779
on her. I had other people checking on her. She

00:28:27.779 --> 00:28:31.059
has plenty of friends because, again, we know

00:28:31.059 --> 00:28:33.160
a lot of people here. I mean, they're in Houston.

00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:36.240
We have a great, great friend group there, Houston

00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:38.279
and Dallas, actually. A lot of people from Dallas

00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:40.039
that we now know and we're good friends with.

00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:43.539
So that kind of got me through. But I'm out of

00:28:43.539 --> 00:28:46.039
sorts seeing my wife because she is the most

00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:49.779
jovial and energetic. add splash than anything

00:28:49.779 --> 00:28:53.180
so yeah yeah yeah it was weird too that's great

00:28:53.180 --> 00:28:55.500
because i just kept getting up and leaving situations

00:28:55.500 --> 00:28:57.500
and then he would like i'd be like i'm going

00:28:57.500 --> 00:28:59.500
to the room and he would come after me he's like

00:28:59.500 --> 00:29:01.460
are you mad at me is everything okay and i was

00:29:01.460 --> 00:29:04.200
like i just don't feel good and it was actually

00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:06.240
starting to irritate me that he wouldn't believe

00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:09.559
me because i was like babe you're not doing anything

00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:11.819
wrong and usually you don't get sick until the

00:29:11.819 --> 00:29:14.880
end like we'll get swingers flu we've done it

00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.410
we've been there eight times we We've had it

00:29:17.410 --> 00:29:19.970
like six out of eight or five out of eight times.

00:29:20.049 --> 00:29:21.809
Right. But remember, we had usually you're cool

00:29:21.809 --> 00:29:24.150
through it. Right. But we had gone on a trip

00:29:24.150 --> 00:29:27.509
for five days with our family. Then I was only

00:29:27.509 --> 00:29:30.089
home for one day and then I left again. And so

00:29:30.089 --> 00:29:33.839
I was just worn out. So, yeah, I usually but

00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:36.059
you know what? I didn't get full blown sick because

00:29:36.059 --> 00:29:38.000
I did take that time. But yeah, I was almost

00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:40.640
getting pissed at him for not believing me that

00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:43.819
like, I just don't feel good. I love you. I just

00:29:43.819 --> 00:29:46.500
don't feel good. Any energy that I have, I'm

00:29:46.500 --> 00:29:49.099
saving to like get a few playdates in while I'm

00:29:49.099 --> 00:29:53.119
here. We can connect when we get home. But he

00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:55.460
was always, you know, making sure I was out of

00:29:55.460 --> 00:29:58.660
sorts. Well, I tell you what, I absolutely love

00:29:58.660 --> 00:30:02.099
that Socrates. That lets the listeners and the

00:30:02.099 --> 00:30:04.640
followers know that, especially the bulls that

00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:06.680
have, you know, may have wives or girlfriends

00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:10.240
or significant others or whatever, that mama

00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.940
comes first. I don't give a damn where we are.

00:30:13.339 --> 00:30:16.299
She comes first. If she doesn't feel well, I

00:30:16.299 --> 00:30:20.180
don't feel well, you know? So that's what makes

00:30:20.180 --> 00:30:24.420
what you guys have extra special. It really does.

00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:28.220
So I commend you. I commend you for staying by

00:30:28.220 --> 00:30:30.059
her side, making sure that she was absolutely

00:30:30.059 --> 00:30:32.799
100 % okay, you know, before you went out and

00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:35.500
did what you did. So hats off to you, brother.

00:30:35.799 --> 00:30:38.440
Yeah, I tell her, look, I say, I don't care if

00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:40.619
I'm doing the nastiest, dirtiest, craziest thing

00:30:40.619 --> 00:30:42.880
away from you. You know what makes it amazing?

00:30:43.220 --> 00:30:45.680
Is I have this amazing woman at home. Because

00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.440
people don't understand about me. I had a hard

00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:52.160
time translating vanilla life to lifestyle, believe

00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:55.930
it or not, being the philosopher that I am. I

00:30:55.930 --> 00:30:58.950
had a lot of problems because, trust me, I have

00:30:58.950 --> 00:31:02.130
been a backup dancer for a rap group. I have

00:31:02.130 --> 00:31:05.470
been every kind of thing in a nightclub. I've

00:31:05.470 --> 00:31:09.750
owned my own club, salsa dancers. Listen, I can

00:31:09.750 --> 00:31:12.250
go to a bar, salsa club, grocery store, and pick

00:31:12.250 --> 00:31:15.190
up a woman anytime. I'm not bragging. I'm just

00:31:15.190 --> 00:31:17.970
saying, like, that's my past. I have a gigolo,

00:31:18.069 --> 00:31:22.029
pickup artist, manosphere past. You know, I was

00:31:22.029 --> 00:31:24.130
reading books about picking up women when I was

00:31:24.130 --> 00:31:28.529
19 years old. So this is nothing new to me. The

00:31:28.529 --> 00:31:30.910
thing what new to me is the new world of lifestyle

00:31:30.910 --> 00:31:37.910
and understanding that like my wife is what makes

00:31:37.910 --> 00:31:42.049
this sexy and fun and crazy because about 80

00:31:42.049 --> 00:31:44.650
% of it I did already before I even knew what

00:31:44.650 --> 00:31:48.109
lifestyle was on my single years in between relationships

00:31:48.109 --> 00:31:51.289
or before. You know, it's like when you when

00:31:51.289 --> 00:31:53.990
you part of a rap group back in the 90s, you

00:31:53.990 --> 00:31:56.710
know, I wasn't but like 17 and I was a backup

00:31:56.710 --> 00:31:59.549
dancer. They didn't go anywhere. But you're in

00:31:59.549 --> 00:32:03.240
Vegas performing and there's 30 year old. damn

00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:05.880
near model looking women jumping on you like

00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:08.640
that's that that makes an impression on you so

00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:11.400
it's not like i'm not used to that i'm not used

00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:14.900
to it with a beautiful woman that loves me and

00:32:14.900 --> 00:32:17.559
that has had my back when i was broke when i

00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:21.859
met her i pay i pay 90 of the bills now but when

00:32:21.859 --> 00:32:24.400
i met her she was making way more money than

00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:27.480
i was and all i have is my own place my own stuff

00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:32.509
but and Just got out of a divorce and just all

00:32:32.509 --> 00:32:35.329
this stuff, and she's built me here. No, none

00:32:35.329 --> 00:32:38.049
of this is worth her being upset or not feeling

00:32:38.049 --> 00:32:40.789
well or us not working out. None of that is worth

00:32:40.789 --> 00:32:43.849
that. So I can get that before I've had it. This

00:32:43.849 --> 00:32:46.789
is not new to me. It took me a while to translate

00:32:46.789 --> 00:32:50.549
the little things from vanilla life to swinger.

00:32:50.569 --> 00:32:53.430
It took me longer than it should have. But people

00:32:53.430 --> 00:32:57.289
think, oh, he's so insecure. I am insecure. I

00:32:57.289 --> 00:33:00.130
was. Because I was like trying to figure out

00:33:00.130 --> 00:33:02.950
how to translate it. I'm like, put me in a salsa

00:33:02.950 --> 00:33:05.829
club. Put me in a salsa club. And you guys will

00:33:05.829 --> 00:33:08.750
start writing, taking notes. Right. Put me in

00:33:08.750 --> 00:33:13.269
a hip hop club as the MC. Then you'll see. You

00:33:13.269 --> 00:33:17.450
know what I'm saying? Yeah. As far as couples

00:33:17.450 --> 00:33:20.210
that were there, did you guys meet some interesting

00:33:20.210 --> 00:33:23.470
couples? Talked to anybody interesting? Played

00:33:23.470 --> 00:33:26.559
with anyone interesting? And somebody, a couple

00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:28.759
that just like just stood out. The couple, the

00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:32.619
husband, they were sweet. Well, I said, babe,

00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:35.099
there's Joe Biden. So we just went over. That

00:33:35.099 --> 00:33:37.339
was that was a good icebreaker. You know, I said,

00:33:37.339 --> 00:33:40.319
hello, President Biden. They were, you know,

00:33:40.339 --> 00:33:42.140
an older couple, but they had been there the

00:33:42.140 --> 00:33:44.019
whole time. And they said it was kind of made

00:33:44.019 --> 00:33:46.299
me a little sad because they said this is the

00:33:46.299 --> 00:33:48.599
most friendliest interaction that we had had.

00:33:48.660 --> 00:33:51.890
And that was Saturday night. So I was like, oh,

00:33:52.009 --> 00:33:54.690
that sucks. But also I challenged some of the

00:33:54.690 --> 00:33:57.690
new couples. It's like, you also can't just sit

00:33:57.690 --> 00:34:00.190
in the corner and expect people to just come

00:34:00.190 --> 00:34:03.710
up to you. Like to get biblical on some people,

00:34:03.750 --> 00:34:05.630
there's a verse in the Bible that says, if you

00:34:05.630 --> 00:34:07.170
want to have friends, you have to show yourself

00:34:07.170 --> 00:34:10.369
friendly. And so, you know, sitting in the corner

00:34:10.369 --> 00:34:12.940
with your arms crossed. you know, with your face

00:34:12.940 --> 00:34:15.460
all mean. I know Socrates made it a special challenge

00:34:15.460 --> 00:34:18.019
to go up and talk to some men that were mean

00:34:18.019 --> 00:34:20.239
mugging everybody so he can talk about that.

00:34:20.340 --> 00:34:23.579
But I don't know. I just, you know, as much as

00:34:23.579 --> 00:34:26.719
I could with my mental brain power being, you

00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:29.880
know, on 10%, I just really tried to just go

00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:33.099
around and just talk to whoever, you know, give

00:34:33.099 --> 00:34:36.639
hugs, give smiles. I can't really remember any

00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:41.599
super meaningful. you know conversations with

00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:44.380
new people just floating around because I again

00:34:44.380 --> 00:34:46.539
during the kind of the mingle time my brain was

00:34:46.539 --> 00:34:50.480
really not on on all out so if anyone's listening

00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:53.659
please forgive me if I you know I did I did say

00:34:53.659 --> 00:34:55.880
in the ladies chat if I my face was saying something

00:34:55.880 --> 00:34:58.059
I said I was just not feeling good and sometimes

00:34:58.059 --> 00:35:00.619
I get overstimulated and I'm just better one

00:35:00.619 --> 00:35:02.300
-on -one there's a lady that's been trying to

00:35:02.300 --> 00:35:05.019
get to know me I said next splash let's just

00:35:05.019 --> 00:35:07.420
go have coffee one of the mornings just you and

00:35:07.420 --> 00:35:11.199
me away from everybody because it's just you

00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:13.639
know not flowing as well as I want to and I said

00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:15.599
I just think I need one -on -one time with you

00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:19.679
so sometimes that for me in a crowded area I'm

00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:23.199
not so good even though I do love people it's

00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:25.420
better for me like I have a whole bunch of friends

00:35:25.420 --> 00:35:28.320
and we're all you know just independent strong

00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:31.239
women but we don't necessarily get together in

00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:33.239
a group we just get together a lot on one -on

00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:36.599
-one and we have great times together so sometimes

00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:39.019
for me that's that's just what I need versus

00:35:39.579 --> 00:35:44.099
managing being a part of a crowd so so you want

00:35:44.099 --> 00:35:46.300
to talk about one -on -one time you want to talk

00:35:46.300 --> 00:35:49.079
about the mean mugging men mean mugging men the

00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.780
mmms yeah i can i know but didn't you you were

00:35:52.780 --> 00:35:55.000
about to say something no i was agreeing with

00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:58.440
siren i was like when i attend an event i much

00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:02.039
i much would rather have the one -on -one time

00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:04.849
myself and the couple You know, when we just

00:36:04.849 --> 00:36:06.530
get a chance to sit down somewhere and talk,

00:36:06.650 --> 00:36:09.809
whether it be breakfast in the morning or just,

00:36:09.889 --> 00:36:11.650
you know, going up to the room and just sit down

00:36:11.650 --> 00:36:14.030
and just have a nice conversation away from the

00:36:14.030 --> 00:36:16.510
group. You know, I don't care about being around

00:36:16.510 --> 00:36:21.699
the whole crowd scene, as you know. You know,

00:36:21.739 --> 00:36:25.059
damn where I am when I get there. So I'm with

00:36:25.059 --> 00:36:27.480
you on that one, Sire. I get a lot out of talking

00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:30.800
to someone one -on -one. I can really, I can

00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:33.280
feel you then when I'm talking to you. You know,

00:36:33.300 --> 00:36:35.139
when I can look at you and I can get close to

00:36:35.139 --> 00:36:38.139
you and really get to know, know you. You know,

00:36:38.139 --> 00:36:41.739
I can, I can tell then, okay, yeah, they're newcomers,

00:36:41.739 --> 00:36:43.860
but they really, there's something in them that

00:36:43.860 --> 00:36:46.059
wants, that wants and needs to be brought out.

00:36:46.699 --> 00:36:49.530
So that's how I am too. But, yeah, tell me about

00:36:49.530 --> 00:36:52.610
the mean mugging. Mean mugging men. Well, yeah,

00:36:52.750 --> 00:36:54.710
you wanted me to speak on the couples thing.

00:36:54.849 --> 00:36:57.489
So I just want to say, before I talk about mean

00:36:57.489 --> 00:37:01.110
mugging, I had interactions with several couples

00:37:01.110 --> 00:37:04.190
that I just want to say thank you. They were

00:37:04.190 --> 00:37:08.409
both, what I noticed is how locked in they were,

00:37:08.570 --> 00:37:12.409
how encouraging each one's were, how the husbands

00:37:12.409 --> 00:37:16.349
were there, and the smiles on their faces. Because

00:37:16.349 --> 00:37:18.489
there's three couples I did some very unique

00:37:18.489 --> 00:37:22.989
things with in the play parties, in the playroom,

00:37:23.130 --> 00:37:26.230
in the room parties. And the way the husbands

00:37:26.230 --> 00:37:29.150
reacted just really warmed my heart. As a stag,

00:37:29.230 --> 00:37:32.710
I love that. But the mean mugging guy, so let

00:37:32.710 --> 00:37:35.869
me get back to the beginning. So I never said

00:37:35.869 --> 00:37:37.630
it like this before, and it kind of made sense

00:37:37.630 --> 00:37:41.559
to me where I'm from. When I first... Went to

00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:44.159
Splash and Siren was like, look, we were going

00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:46.420
to all kind of white gang bangs because where

00:37:46.420 --> 00:37:48.280
we live, if you're going to go to a gang bang,

00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:50.599
it's going to be all vanilla, all white people.

00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:53.820
And it was great. That's no problem. But not

00:37:53.820 --> 00:37:56.739
vanilla, you know, white folks, which is great.

00:37:56.840 --> 00:37:59.380
And I've got some good friends. Maybe a couple

00:37:59.380 --> 00:38:02.000
of Latina guys. Right. Some of them are going

00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:03.840
to be coming to some of our parties. They're

00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:06.179
great people. Nothing wrong with that. But she's

00:38:06.179 --> 00:38:08.139
like, look, and I just said one to her one day,

00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:09.800
I said, look, you just need to admit that you

00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:12.409
are. you know queen of spades queen of spades

00:38:12.409 --> 00:38:16.010
so long story short she said she admitted it

00:38:16.010 --> 00:38:18.190
we we went out to a bunch of clubs everywhere

00:38:18.190 --> 00:38:21.090
and she's just like i need to find a place specifically

00:38:21.090 --> 00:38:24.590
for with black men so i found splash and i was

00:38:24.590 --> 00:38:27.469
thinking okay this is for her right i've done

00:38:27.469 --> 00:38:29.269
some stuff i've done all kind of crazy stuff

00:38:29.269 --> 00:38:33.050
this is for her and so i found it and i was preparing

00:38:33.050 --> 00:38:37.659
myself and my mind i was thinking I'm going to

00:38:37.659 --> 00:38:39.280
go in there with a bunch of crips and bloods.

00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:42.000
Like, I don't know why I was, I just thought

00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:44.880
it was going to be some really, and I don't even

00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:47.099
put down crips and bloods because I, but I mean,

00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:53.480
just really disrespectful, uneducated, unsophisticated,

00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:57.420
you know, don't know how to approach men. And

00:38:57.420 --> 00:38:59.699
I was horribly wrong. But when I went in there,

00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:02.699
I went in there mean mugging. I had my arms folded

00:39:02.699 --> 00:39:04.840
and I was, you know, looking around, ready to

00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:09.320
fight. And I was blown away at the men's meeting.

00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:12.199
And then I was later blown away how the men treated

00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:16.300
Siren and how well they all treated each other

00:39:16.300 --> 00:39:18.340
and how they lifted each other up. So I said

00:39:18.340 --> 00:39:21.420
all that to say I was talking to a fan that came

00:39:21.420 --> 00:39:23.000
up to us and he was telling us how much he liked

00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:25.539
the podcast and everything. And something about

00:39:25.539 --> 00:39:28.039
Mean Muggin came up. Oh, I was talking about

00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:30.139
Uncle Work. Because he was there. I was talking

00:39:30.139 --> 00:39:32.659
about Uncle Work. And if you listen to the podcast,

00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:34.460
you guys, I've talked about Uncle Work before.

00:39:34.659 --> 00:39:37.239
But I'll talk about it again. But I was talking

00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:39.480
about Uncle Work. He was like, yeah, man, that's

00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:41.460
what you did the first splash. And I said, what?

00:39:41.619 --> 00:39:45.079
Wait, what? I said, what? What you mean? He said,

00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:46.719
man, when you got in there, dude, you looked

00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:48.679
like you was ready to fight the first person

00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:52.219
that came up to you. And I said, the way I describe

00:39:52.219 --> 00:39:55.219
how I felt, I can't deny that. I never felt that.

00:39:55.480 --> 00:40:00.019
And Siren never said that. I said, I probably

00:40:00.019 --> 00:40:02.159
was. I didn't even notice what you were looking

00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:04.820
like. Yeah, because your jaw was dropped looking

00:40:04.820 --> 00:40:08.139
at all the other beautiful black men in there.

00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:10.239
Nervous -sided. Yeah, so that's all you kept

00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:12.820
saying is to all these beautiful black men. Never

00:40:12.820 --> 00:40:16.199
seen so many. So what I decided to do right after

00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:19.500
he said that was every, there was about three

00:40:19.500 --> 00:40:22.199
of them, every, me, there was one dude, man,

00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:25.920
I swear, he was sitting down. His wife is beautiful.

00:40:27.340 --> 00:40:30.940
I kid you not, he's buff. He's real buff. He

00:40:30.940 --> 00:40:34.739
is a body builder. You can just tell, you know.

00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:39.219
He ain't got no neck. Like, he's big. And he,

00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:41.880
a mean mug, the worst I've ever seen in Splash.

00:40:41.940 --> 00:40:44.980
Like, I mean, this guy was, and I said, I'm going

00:40:44.980 --> 00:40:47.260
up to him. So I went up to him, sat on the table,

00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:50.619
and I started talking to both of them. I talked

00:40:50.619 --> 00:40:53.360
to this dude for five minutes and asked him direct

00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:56.960
questions. And he answered with shoulder shrugs

00:40:56.960 --> 00:41:01.139
and looks and eye movements. And his wife would

00:41:01.139 --> 00:41:02.860
have to answer for him. And I just kept talking

00:41:02.860 --> 00:41:05.480
to him. And then I just said, hey, you're my

00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:07.239
challenge. I just said straight up because he

00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:09.760
wouldn't crack. And that's when he said, what

00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:14.340
do you mean? And I said, my boy over here told

00:41:14.340 --> 00:41:16.019
me when I first started coming, I used to mean

00:41:16.019 --> 00:41:18.550
mug people. And I told him, yeah, because I really

00:41:18.550 --> 00:41:22.210
felt like I was running too. Because I had bad

00:41:22.210 --> 00:41:25.909
experiences in the past. So, and, you know, this

00:41:25.909 --> 00:41:27.389
and this and that. And I said, you know what,

00:41:27.389 --> 00:41:29.409
man, you owe her a mean mugging. And his wife

00:41:29.409 --> 00:41:31.550
said, yes, thank you. She's like, I'm trying

00:41:31.550 --> 00:41:33.610
to get some dick. And he's scaring everyone away.

00:41:33.610 --> 00:41:37.170
His wife said, yes. And he just looked down like,

00:41:37.250 --> 00:41:39.969
I know. And then I was like, hey, man, like,

00:41:40.010 --> 00:41:42.369
I came up to you because I don't care. Yeah.

00:41:42.690 --> 00:41:44.590
Well, let me say this, though. Think about it.

00:41:44.610 --> 00:41:47.650
Think about it. put yourself in his shoes you're

00:41:47.650 --> 00:41:50.170
you're a bodybuilder so i'm assuming the the

00:41:50.170 --> 00:41:54.670
physique look like that of the pros that that

00:41:54.670 --> 00:41:58.190
i see all the time when i go to shows okay probably

00:41:58.190 --> 00:42:01.809
a big dude muscles everywhere vascular and veiny

00:42:01.809 --> 00:42:07.150
etc etc cut up and you are sitting at an event

00:42:07.150 --> 00:42:11.429
where you are going to watch your wife get beat

00:42:11.429 --> 00:42:15.320
down by these black guys And you're probably

00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.900
feeling some kind of overweight. You know what

00:42:17.900 --> 00:42:23.559
I mean? Big time. So I can kind of see maybe

00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:26.420
a couple going to one or two events and the husband

00:42:26.420 --> 00:42:30.139
be, you know, he's mean mugging, but underneath

00:42:30.139 --> 00:42:33.199
he's scared as fuck. He's scared as hell because

00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:37.039
he doesn't, he's really feeling some kind of

00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:39.980
weight. Like, you know, am I enough for her?

00:42:40.099 --> 00:42:43.239
You know what I mean? She's going to get some

00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:45.460
good dicks. She's going to open up. I'm probably

00:42:45.460 --> 00:42:48.820
going to see her in another light, and it's fucking

00:42:48.820 --> 00:42:51.219
with me. So that's where the mean mugging comes

00:42:51.219 --> 00:42:55.199
from. So for you to go up to him like that and

00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:57.760
be able to, I'm not going to say break him, but

00:42:57.760 --> 00:42:59.719
you were able to make him feel comfortable, correct?

00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:03.340
Yeah. In some way, shape, or form, you were able

00:43:03.340 --> 00:43:04.739
to make him feel comfortable. I got him to talk.

00:43:04.900 --> 00:43:06.780
That's good. I got him to talk, and he was here.

00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:09.460
Eventually, he still didn't talk a lot, but he

00:43:09.460 --> 00:43:11.869
was like, hey. Why are we here but not to do

00:43:11.869 --> 00:43:13.329
that? You know, he's like, that's why I'm here.

00:43:14.289 --> 00:43:16.750
Bodybuilding guys, unless they're talking to

00:43:16.750 --> 00:43:20.110
personal trainers or the cats that lift, they

00:43:20.110 --> 00:43:22.070
really are, they live in their own world, all

00:43:22.070 --> 00:43:25.809
right? I mean, you know, I'm not a bodybuilder

00:43:25.809 --> 00:43:28.469
or anything like that, but I'm an avid weightlifter

00:43:28.469 --> 00:43:32.150
who lifts like a bodybuilder. So I know how they

00:43:32.150 --> 00:43:35.969
live. I know they live. Very, very extrovert.

00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:39.840
You know, for you to get him to do that, good

00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:43.099
job. Good job, brother. Both of y 'all sound

00:43:43.099 --> 00:43:45.219
like you had a very, let me see, how do I say

00:43:45.219 --> 00:43:47.900
it, a very uplifting experience this time at

00:43:47.900 --> 00:43:50.659
this event. Yeah. Very, very uplifting. I just

00:43:50.659 --> 00:43:52.960
kept checking in with myself, too, because, you

00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.760
know, I will not lie and say, you know, every

00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:59.380
time that he's playing that I've been like 100

00:43:59.380 --> 00:44:03.599
% overjoyed. Because I get FOMO or jealous or

00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:05.539
whatever. But this time I really just kept checking

00:44:05.539 --> 00:44:07.599
in myself and being like, okay, I don't feel

00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:13.159
well. Am I truly wanting him to go? How am I

00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:15.559
feeling about it? And I just felt good that he

00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:19.579
could go. And then the experiences that I did

00:44:19.579 --> 00:44:22.980
have were so meaningful. I played with one guy

00:44:22.980 --> 00:44:25.320
that several ladies were turning up their nose

00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:29.409
to because he was a little bit... He was a colorful

00:44:29.409 --> 00:44:34.250
individual. He was a little bit maybe flamboyant.

00:44:34.510 --> 00:44:36.650
And so some of the women, you know, they're like,

00:44:36.730 --> 00:44:39.769
that's not my cup of tea. And I thought, why

00:44:39.769 --> 00:44:42.289
not? Let me just see what this guy's all about.

00:44:42.570 --> 00:44:45.730
And it ended up being one of the best play experiences.

00:44:45.829 --> 00:44:49.409
We laid on the bed fully clothed for 45 minutes

00:44:49.409 --> 00:44:54.929
and just talked. And I could tell he was kind

00:44:54.929 --> 00:44:58.079
of nervous to start. And then... I could tell

00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:00.199
we both had creative minds and just the way we

00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.239
were speaking just started flowing together.

00:45:02.860 --> 00:45:05.239
And it was just very uplifting and encouraging

00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:10.000
and positive conversation. And then when we got

00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:12.579
to the actual play, you know, he was talking

00:45:12.579 --> 00:45:14.880
a lot about he likes to please. And sometimes

00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:17.500
when guys say that, I go, okay, yeah, we'll see.

00:45:17.619 --> 00:45:20.340
In my mind, you know, because I'm like, sometimes

00:45:20.340 --> 00:45:22.800
they're just talking, you know. But he truly,

00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:27.039
the way he spoke really was the way he played.

00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.260
And it just flowed so well, and it was a great

00:45:30.260 --> 00:45:33.500
time. And I just went back to a couple of those

00:45:33.500 --> 00:45:36.420
ladies, and I said, that may not be everybody's

00:45:36.420 --> 00:45:38.960
cup of tea, but damn, it was a good cup of tea

00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:43.340
for me. So I really enjoyed that. And I love

00:45:43.340 --> 00:45:47.619
finding those gold nuggets, those guys that are

00:45:47.619 --> 00:45:52.840
just like a diamond in the rough. Maybe other

00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:56.190
people don't see it. But when you get them in

00:45:56.190 --> 00:45:58.590
that place where you can discover what they're

00:45:58.590 --> 00:46:01.590
really about one -on -one, then you just really

00:46:01.590 --> 00:46:04.449
meet some cool people that have some cool things

00:46:04.449 --> 00:46:06.449
to offer. Well, those are your friends, Mommy,

00:46:06.630 --> 00:46:09.650
because trust me, he got it in. Not all the women

00:46:09.650 --> 00:46:12.250
got that. I didn't say that. No, I'm just being

00:46:12.250 --> 00:46:14.789
funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I didn't because

00:46:14.789 --> 00:46:17.469
he was bold. He was bold and he would just be

00:46:17.469 --> 00:46:20.389
like, you're hot and I would like some time with

00:46:20.389 --> 00:46:23.239
you. And he said it in such like... not a cocky

00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:25.619
way, like I'm going to get you, you know, but

00:46:25.619 --> 00:46:28.340
just like in a very complimentary and just like.

00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:30.820
Very complimentary way. Yeah. And a fun way.

00:46:30.900 --> 00:46:33.800
Like it was, it was a very different vibe. Like

00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:35.500
some of the guys are just super confident. Some

00:46:35.500 --> 00:46:38.019
kind of come off a little cocky. And then he

00:46:38.019 --> 00:46:40.400
just said it in such a fun, like, Hey, I'm here

00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:43.039
to have a good time. You know, he showed up late

00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:46.300
for our gang bang. He was invited to that. And.

00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:49.480
He was otherwise occupied, and by the time he

00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:52.960
got there, we were all done. So he said, well,

00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:55.940
you guys are hot and beautiful, and I hope that

00:46:55.940 --> 00:46:57.739
I get some time with you later. And then he just

00:46:57.739 --> 00:46:59.800
walked away, and then he followed up a couple

00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:03.440
more times, and it finally worked out. So I just

00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:05.980
encourage the ladies, sometimes when someone's

00:47:05.980 --> 00:47:08.559
just a little bit different than what you're

00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:11.639
used to, just give them a try. Give them a try.

00:47:11.739 --> 00:47:14.519
It's like trying a new food. You just might like

00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.949
it. You might find something there that... you

00:47:16.949 --> 00:47:19.210
weren't expecting. So that's some good, that's

00:47:19.210 --> 00:47:22.150
good. Some good knowledge and wisdom there for

00:47:22.150 --> 00:47:25.730
the ladies listening. Very good. Anything else

00:47:25.730 --> 00:47:28.650
that needs to be brought out from this after

00:47:28.650 --> 00:47:31.289
action report, ladies and gentlemen. Actually,

00:47:31.309 --> 00:47:33.710
I think we just need to do a part two because

00:47:33.710 --> 00:47:36.710
we haven't even hit the scratch the surface.

00:47:36.809 --> 00:47:39.489
There are so many other things that we discovered

00:47:39.489 --> 00:47:44.670
together that happened that, you know, we learned

00:47:44.670 --> 00:47:48.630
that we want to share. So I think that what we

00:47:48.630 --> 00:47:50.570
should probably do, because we could probably

00:47:50.570 --> 00:47:53.070
go another hour and a half. So we probably just

00:47:53.070 --> 00:47:55.369
end it there if you want and then do a part two.

00:47:56.110 --> 00:47:59.429
Yeah. Or maybe we can wrap it into the podcast

00:47:59.429 --> 00:48:01.630
that we're going to do with Raven. Yeah. Yeah.

00:48:01.670 --> 00:48:03.130
I think it's. Yeah, we could do that. That's

00:48:03.130 --> 00:48:05.329
kind of what you're alluding a little bit. There's

00:48:05.329 --> 00:48:07.849
more. That'll work. Okay. But either way. We

00:48:07.849 --> 00:48:10.610
can do that one. We can, you know, there's, there's

00:48:10.610 --> 00:48:13.610
lots of time that we can create more. So. That'll

00:48:13.610 --> 00:48:16.960
work. That'll work. Well, then, if there's nothing

00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:20.579
more to be said, ladies and gentlemen, you've

00:48:20.579 --> 00:48:24.219
heard it from Siren and Socrates. Sounds like

00:48:24.219 --> 00:48:27.519
Splash Mocha Houston was an absolute blast and

00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:31.760
also a very, very uplifting event for them as

00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:35.539
a couple. I'm so proud of them. Again, ladies

00:48:35.539 --> 00:48:38.219
and gentlemen, thank you for joining us tonight.

00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:41.059
I am the Sigma Male himself, along with Brian

00:48:41.059 --> 00:48:44.539
Morgan, along with the family, Siren and Socrates.

00:48:45.340 --> 00:48:48.360
Until we talk again, to all the boys out there,

00:48:48.460 --> 00:48:51.719
to my brothers, I bid you good night. And to

00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:54.820
all my sexy hot wives, you know the deal. Good

00:48:54.820 --> 00:48:58.739
morning. Until we meet again, y 'all, good night.
