WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.839 We set up this space. I rented out a dungeon 00:00:02.839 --> 00:00:08.080 here in L .A. And we put Matt at the beginning 00:00:08.080 --> 00:00:11.380 of the ceremony just to kind of have the candles, 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:15.619 have some incense to take in the space. I had 00:00:15.619 --> 00:00:18.820 this music that I like to use that's very tribal. 00:00:19.019 --> 00:00:20.859 You could pick whatever you like that speaks 00:00:20.859 --> 00:00:24.000 to you. And we were able to create like before 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:27.179 there was anything sexual. We were able to create 00:00:27.179 --> 00:00:30.059 this literal triangle between the three of us. 00:00:30.179 --> 00:00:33.619 This podcast contains explicit adult content, 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:37.439 mature themes, and candid conversations about 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:41.820 sex, dominance, power exchange, and ethical non 00:00:41.820 --> 00:00:45.719 -monogamy. 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If you're not 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:28.400 comfortable with frank talk about sex, kink, 00:01:28.500 --> 00:01:31.560 dominance, or emotional power, this probably 00:01:31.560 --> 00:01:34.359 isn't the show for you. But if you're ready to 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:37.739 step into your masculine edge and embrace a lifestyle 00:01:37.739 --> 00:01:40.859 that demands mastery, welcome to the Brotherhood. 00:01:43.500 --> 00:01:46.680 Welcome to the Bull Brotherhood Podcast, where 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:50.040 we talk power, pleasure, and the art of dominance 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:52.980 in ethical non -monogamy. This is not your average 00:01:52.980 --> 00:01:55.939 lifestyle podcast. This is for men who lead, 00:01:56.219 --> 00:01:59.719 men who master, and men who leave a lasting impression. 00:02:00.340 --> 00:02:03.819 If you're here, you're not just curious. You're 00:02:03.819 --> 00:02:07.099 ready to elevate. So to all the bulls, hot wives, 00:02:07.420 --> 00:02:10.879 stags, and open -minded explorers, we see you. 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:26.949 Let's go. Ladies and gentlemen, good evening. 00:02:27.009 --> 00:02:30.669 Welcome to another invigorating episode of the 00:02:30.669 --> 00:02:33.050 Bull Brotherhood podcast. I'm the man with the 00:02:33.050 --> 00:02:35.710 plan, Brian Morgan, a .k .a. the Sigma male himself. 00:02:36.150 --> 00:02:38.569 One third of the podcast team, along with the 00:02:38.569 --> 00:02:41.710 beautiful couple and family that love this siren. 00:02:41.789 --> 00:02:46.789 What's going on, sweetie? Hey. All right. All 00:02:46.789 --> 00:02:49.770 right. And of course, the nephew himself, Socrates. 00:02:49.909 --> 00:02:52.830 What's good? What's good, y 'all? What's good? 00:02:52.949 --> 00:02:55.349 All right. Now, ladies and gentlemen, again, 00:02:55.550 --> 00:02:58.110 we have a very, very special guest coming at 00:02:58.110 --> 00:03:01.699 us, coming at you from. the great state of california 00:03:01.699 --> 00:03:05.800 we know him as the sapiosexual one himself ladies 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:07.919 and gentlemen please do a big big round of applause 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.860 and a hand for pagan what's going on brother 00:03:10.860 --> 00:03:13.500 what's going on my people it's good to be back 00:03:13.500 --> 00:03:15.659 with you all right all right it's definitely 00:03:15.659 --> 00:03:17.860 a pleasure for you to be back ladies and gentlemen 00:03:17.860 --> 00:03:20.020 tonight pagan is kind of going to take the lead 00:03:20.020 --> 00:03:24.000 on a topic that he has mastered over the years 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:27.699 and one that i'm very very curious about um if 00:03:27.699 --> 00:03:30.120 i'm not mistaken pagan is called what's Again? 00:03:30.219 --> 00:03:33.520 Sex magic, which sometimes is spelled M -A -G 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:37.819 -I -C -K. Yeah, sex magic. That shit sounds sexy 00:03:37.819 --> 00:03:41.259 as fuck. Again, Pagan is going to take the lead 00:03:41.259 --> 00:03:43.219 tonight, and I'm going to pass the mic on to 00:03:43.219 --> 00:03:46.000 him. Once again, coming at you from California, 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:50.099 the man himself, Pagan. Yeah, so, you know, I 00:03:50.099 --> 00:03:52.159 appreciate you guys having me on to talk about 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:56.000 this. This is a subject that I have. I would... 00:03:56.460 --> 00:04:00.400 not say that I am a master in this. I am trying 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:03.060 to get mastery in this. This is one of those 00:04:03.060 --> 00:04:04.919 things, like many of the aspects of what you 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:08.400 guys talk about and being a bull, where you can 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:12.819 be like Socrates, the eternal student. But I 00:04:12.819 --> 00:04:15.539 have learned quite a few things that I'll share 00:04:15.539 --> 00:04:19.100 with people who are interested in kind of a one 00:04:19.100 --> 00:04:22.959 -on -one, a 101, and try to explain it a little 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:26.639 bit from my point of view. One thing I will say 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:29.779 at the top, we say all the time in the lifestyle, 00:04:30.220 --> 00:04:34.379 you know, there's no one way to do things. This 00:04:34.379 --> 00:04:37.060 is the ultimate example of that to me. When it 00:04:37.060 --> 00:04:39.480 comes to sex magic, if anybody is telling you 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:42.620 there's a way, stay away from that person. They 00:04:42.620 --> 00:04:44.060 don't know what they're talking about. It is 00:04:44.060 --> 00:04:48.860 very much dependent on the participants, what 00:04:48.860 --> 00:04:53.470 they are interested in. the power that they harness 00:04:53.470 --> 00:04:57.149 what is specific about the practitioner so i 00:04:57.149 --> 00:04:59.129 just want to stress that you're going to hear 00:04:59.129 --> 00:05:01.829 me talk about a lot of different things some 00:05:01.829 --> 00:05:03.550 of which is going to be specific to the way i 00:05:03.550 --> 00:05:07.290 approach it but please do not take that as the 00:05:07.290 --> 00:05:10.290 way to do it it is a way to do it and it might 00:05:10.290 --> 00:05:13.170 give you ideas on how you would like to do it 00:05:13.170 --> 00:05:15.430 so i'll just say that up front but in terms of 00:05:15.430 --> 00:05:17.269 just talking about what it is in the beginning 00:05:17.269 --> 00:05:20.740 i wanted to just start off and talk about skepticism 00:05:20.740 --> 00:05:25.259 first about magic in general sex magic magic 00:05:25.259 --> 00:05:29.800 it's 2025 you throw out the word magic and some 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:31.879 people like what are you talking about like this 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:35.680 is harry potter what is going on here i started 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:39.199 off a skeptic so i wanted to start there just 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:41.220 for those in the audience that might be skeptics 00:05:41.220 --> 00:05:44.199 i'm with you i'm an empiricist i'm a rationalist 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:48.120 i'm i'm a fan of what i can feel taste and touch 00:05:48.779 --> 00:05:52.259 and if that's not possible i'll take what's observable 00:05:52.259 --> 00:05:54.839 and provable but that's kind of where i came 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:57.319 from so i just wanted to put that out there up 00:05:57.319 --> 00:06:00.199 front if there's is a thing that sounds woohoo 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:03.519 to you and sounds a little out there i'm with 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:06.319 you and i'll tell you about my journey and how 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:08.720 i've come to respect it and understand the power 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:12.259 of it where i didn't at first but i i just wanted 00:06:12.259 --> 00:06:13.660 to let you know i'm a kindred soul if you're 00:06:13.660 --> 00:06:17.379 skeptical but much like i imagine someone who's 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:20.600 you know had a paranormal encounter for instance 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:23.819 you know i've met people that i haven't particularly 00:06:23.819 --> 00:06:25.839 i haven't seen a ghost before but i've met people 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:28.579 who have had encounters and you can't tell them 00:06:28.579 --> 00:06:30.759 otherwise you know or people that have seen an 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:34.439 unidentifiable object in the sky that's you know 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:38.019 doing stuff that a plane can't do i've talked 00:06:38.019 --> 00:06:39.800 to people who have had these experiences even 00:06:39.800 --> 00:06:42.899 though i haven't had them and they have seen 00:06:42.899 --> 00:06:47.060 and felt and experienced things so I am more 00:06:47.060 --> 00:06:49.660 open -minded than I used to be about a lot of 00:06:49.660 --> 00:06:52.860 things that I used to scoff at or laugh at. Even 00:06:52.860 --> 00:06:55.600 though it may not be something I've experienced, 00:06:56.060 --> 00:06:59.259 I do have more respect for it. And I'm going 00:06:59.259 --> 00:07:01.360 to be telling you about my journey to get to 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:04.439 that point with Sex Magic. So here's what I propose. 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:08.939 If you listen and you agree with at least most 00:07:08.939 --> 00:07:12.920 of what I'm going to say right now, maybe if 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:14.839 you're a skeptic, you can see a way to entertain. 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:19.160 What I'm saying about my experience and what 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:22.639 I am proposing that I think most people agree 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:25.699 with is the idea that your perception is your 00:07:25.699 --> 00:07:30.060 reality. What we see, what we perceive, what 00:07:30.060 --> 00:07:33.360 we think is real, is real. We've all seen the 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:36.540 Matrix. Morpheus gave us the speech. That is 00:07:36.540 --> 00:07:42.060 the truth. Objective reality is something that 00:07:42.060 --> 00:07:45.579 is... questionable at best, more likely is what 00:07:45.579 --> 00:07:48.839 you perceive reality to be. And if perception 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:53.100 is reality and focusing intention changes your 00:07:53.100 --> 00:07:55.000 perception, which is something I think we can 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:58.319 also agree on, then I think that focusing your 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:01.519 intention, changing your perceptions can change 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:05.180 your reality. And that's what I have experienced 00:08:05.180 --> 00:08:08.899 when it comes to sex magic. So, you know, you 00:08:08.899 --> 00:08:11.620 want to become a better pianist. You practice, 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:15.199 you know, intensity, imagination, emotional conviction 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:19.579 can make you, you know, somebody who's at Juilliard. 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:23.920 Or if you visualize yourself nailing a presentation 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:27.540 or that CrossFit competition or whatever, your 00:08:27.540 --> 00:08:31.920 physical body calibrates to make that a real 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:34.500 thing. We've all experienced that in real life. 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:37.360 People don't tend to question those things. I'm 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:39.240 saying the exact same thing when I'm talking 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:43.240 about sex magic. So you can pray, you can affirm 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:46.960 affirmations, you know, you can manifest, you 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:50.279 can visualize, you can obsess over things, you 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:53.799 can just grind, do the work. You can daydream, 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:57.100 you can journal, you can scream into your pillow. 00:08:57.179 --> 00:09:01.299 But all of this is the same thing. You are aiming 00:09:01.299 --> 00:09:06.120 your energy with intention. And then reality 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:09.320 bends to your will. And sometimes that's very 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:12.289 subtle. Sometimes I've experienced things that 00:09:12.289 --> 00:09:15.029 are wild. And just one more thing, just to get 00:09:15.029 --> 00:09:18.009 into the actual reality of what sex magic can 00:09:18.009 --> 00:09:21.750 do, that's based in what we know about science. 00:09:22.389 --> 00:09:25.570 We are all familiar with the chemicals that the 00:09:25.570 --> 00:09:30.169 body releases around sex. These are real, tangible 00:09:30.169 --> 00:09:33.250 things that change in your body. Like dopamine, 00:09:33.389 --> 00:09:35.730 they call that the pleasure molecule. But it's 00:09:35.730 --> 00:09:38.529 also the focus and reward molecule. It's been 00:09:38.529 --> 00:09:41.570 called that. It enhances your motivation. It 00:09:41.570 --> 00:09:44.350 sharpens your attention. It strengthens your 00:09:44.350 --> 00:09:47.409 synaptic potential, which is just a fancy way 00:09:47.409 --> 00:09:49.470 of saying it makes your neurons fire together 00:09:49.470 --> 00:09:52.809 and wire together. That chemical is released 00:09:52.809 --> 00:09:55.570 when you're aroused and especially when you're 00:09:55.570 --> 00:10:00.610 having orgasm. So high dopamine means you're 00:10:00.610 --> 00:10:04.789 in a high learning state. Your brain plasticity 00:10:04.789 --> 00:10:09.509 actually expands. Same thing with oxytocin. When 00:10:09.509 --> 00:10:12.690 you have a sexual touch or an orgasm, it increases 00:10:12.690 --> 00:10:17.529 trust, your emotional salience. It consolidates 00:10:17.529 --> 00:10:20.590 your memory and pattern recognition. What you 00:10:20.590 --> 00:10:23.190 learn and experience when that chemical is going 00:10:23.190 --> 00:10:27.669 on during sex, your brain actually has new wiring 00:10:27.669 --> 00:10:29.970 and takes that in differently than if you were 00:10:29.970 --> 00:10:33.970 just sitting in a chair. So once again, your 00:10:33.970 --> 00:10:36.889 brain is going to flag what's important when 00:10:36.889 --> 00:10:40.190 these chemicals are being released. and it recodes 00:10:40.190 --> 00:10:42.809 your brain and the list goes on there's you know 00:10:42.809 --> 00:10:46.389 endorphins and you know you know the noradrenaline 00:10:46.389 --> 00:10:49.970 serotonin all of these things around orgasms 00:10:49.970 --> 00:10:52.889 around sex they lay down like new mental pathways 00:10:52.889 --> 00:10:56.350 so i'm saying all that to say when you're turned 00:10:56.350 --> 00:10:59.450 on when you're having sex when you're having 00:10:59.450 --> 00:11:02.690 an orgasm your brain is paying more attention 00:11:02.690 --> 00:11:07.370 and encoding literally new ley lines It trains 00:11:07.370 --> 00:11:10.649 the nervous system to experience reality differently. 00:11:11.029 --> 00:11:14.149 You know, we've all felt goosebumps. We've all 00:11:14.149 --> 00:11:17.330 felt like a chill that's pleasurable when someone 00:11:17.330 --> 00:11:19.909 whispers in our ear. These are all things that 00:11:19.909 --> 00:11:22.669 are chemically your body's reacting. And I'm 00:11:22.669 --> 00:11:25.309 saying sex magic can do all those things that 00:11:25.309 --> 00:11:28.570 you've experienced and amplify them by a thousand 00:11:28.570 --> 00:11:32.870 times. So that's just kind of like the background 00:11:32.870 --> 00:11:35.679 of like for the skeptics out there. where this 00:11:35.679 --> 00:11:39.159 is rooted in science and what you can do that 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:42.279 we all really don't question. But then the sex 00:11:42.279 --> 00:11:44.799 magic is taking that thing to another level. 00:11:44.940 --> 00:11:47.860 So when I say sex magic, based on all of what 00:11:47.860 --> 00:11:50.779 I just talked about, the definition of it for 00:11:50.779 --> 00:11:55.620 me is intentional harnessing of like the peak 00:11:55.620 --> 00:11:58.080 neurochemical states that I just talked about 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:01.960 that encode your behaviors and your perceptions. 00:12:02.139 --> 00:12:06.500 So you're like primed. With belief, intention, 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:10.799 visualization on top of that, you're able to 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:13.700 achieve new heights with sex and other things. 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:16.899 So, you know, while your body's in that state, 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:23.539 if you use sex magic ritual, sex magic, symbolisms, 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:27.379 suggestions, you can rewrite your circuitry. 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:31.559 And why not? Why not focus that? Why not hone 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:35.000 it? harness it and shape your sexual reality. 00:12:35.460 --> 00:12:39.139 So long story short, I'm talking about neuroplasticity 00:12:39.139 --> 00:12:43.399 as spellcasting. You're able to actually physically 00:12:43.399 --> 00:12:45.679 change your experience and the experience of 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:48.379 others. If you focus your intention and will, 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:51.600 you can create a new reality. Pagan, can I jump 00:12:51.600 --> 00:12:54.639 in here? Yeah, I was just shutting up. So can 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:58.019 we take a few steps back? It sounds like you're 00:12:58.019 --> 00:13:02.870 combining, let's say for people who are not like 00:13:02.870 --> 00:13:05.590 into the woo -woo stuff or has heard it the old 00:13:05.590 --> 00:13:07.129 school way, it was called the law of attraction. 00:13:07.710 --> 00:13:10.529 Now most people call it manifestation. A lot 00:13:10.529 --> 00:13:12.250 of other people call it different things. You're 00:13:12.250 --> 00:13:16.450 also combining the chemical and neurological 00:13:16.450 --> 00:13:21.169 responses to orgasms with the process of how 00:13:21.169 --> 00:13:26.120 we process reality, right? But can you break 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:28.980 a few of those things down or I can, I don't 00:13:28.980 --> 00:13:31.559 care, but for our audience to kind of catch them 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:36.320 up because you gave a beautiful, beautiful explanation 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:39.100 of what it is. But I'm going to say this. I was 00:13:39.100 --> 00:13:40.600 sitting there listening to you and I was like, 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:43.100 I understood everything he's saying. But the 00:13:43.100 --> 00:13:45.159 only reason why is because I've probably read 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:49.879 15 books on all of those subjects. So I'm like, 00:13:49.960 --> 00:13:52.840 can we break it down a little bit more for layman's 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:55.779 terms for those who are not familiar with a lot 00:13:55.779 --> 00:13:59.120 of these things and nuances that we are pretty, 00:13:59.179 --> 00:14:02.340 me and you, I know are very familiar with. Yeah. 00:14:02.340 --> 00:14:06.340 I mean, I mentioned a bunch of the specific chemicals 00:14:06.340 --> 00:14:10.830 and biological functions. But if you take all 00:14:10.830 --> 00:14:13.809 of those specifics away and you don't want to 00:14:13.809 --> 00:14:15.870 focus on it, you can look them up later. Your 00:14:15.870 --> 00:14:19.690 intention and your will, we all know, as you 00:14:19.690 --> 00:14:22.509 pointed out, manifestation, saying your mantra, 00:14:22.669 --> 00:14:26.070 meditating, you know, in the morning here, you 00:14:26.070 --> 00:14:28.230 know, you go into the mirror and you, you know, 00:14:28.250 --> 00:14:31.769 you create a reality for your day coming up by 00:14:31.769 --> 00:14:36.279 talking to yourself and you practice this. ability 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:38.840 to have your will and intention become something 00:14:38.840 --> 00:14:42.679 or your vision board or whatever. What I'm saying 00:14:42.679 --> 00:14:46.080 is we're not unfamiliar with the idea that your 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:49.399 will can create things in your life. And we're 00:14:49.399 --> 00:14:51.919 not unfamiliar with people who are sitting around 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:54.799 on their ass covered in Cheeto dust. A lot of 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:59.279 stuff doesn't happen for them. Hey, hey, I resemble 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:03.360 that. I'm sorry. I love Cheeto puffs. They're 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:06.559 like my favorite, you know, when I've had a little 00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:10.500 420 time. I love those Cheeto puffs. I had no 00:15:10.500 --> 00:15:12.360 idea that was going to be where I broke into 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:15.179 the conversation, but, you know. Yeah, that's 00:15:15.179 --> 00:15:17.600 where Siren was like offended. Like, all right, 00:15:17.620 --> 00:15:21.019 all right, you've gone too far. Don't be talking 00:15:21.019 --> 00:15:23.759 about my Cheetos like that. Cheetos are great. 00:15:24.220 --> 00:15:26.879 What's not great is sitting around not doing 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:29.259 nothing while you're eating them. And Siren, 00:15:29.299 --> 00:15:32.220 you're a go -getter who has got a million different 00:15:32.220 --> 00:15:33.879 things going on, so you deserve your Cheetos. 00:15:34.100 --> 00:15:38.740 Thank you. But the idea that you can just sit 00:15:38.740 --> 00:15:42.500 there and things are going to come to you because 00:15:42.500 --> 00:15:45.019 you're thinking about them, I personally don't 00:15:45.019 --> 00:15:47.960 think that's a thing. Right. I'm very skeptical 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:51.159 about that. That's not what manifestation is. 00:15:51.840 --> 00:15:54.740 Manifestation is using your will to put things 00:15:54.740 --> 00:15:56.279 out there. And yes, there's a mental component 00:15:56.279 --> 00:15:58.940 and belief, but you also have to like physically 00:15:58.940 --> 00:16:01.320 do things. And I think that's what sex magic, 00:16:01.500 --> 00:16:05.480 Socrates kind of marries the two things. We all 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:07.460 know there's a physical component to sex. That's 00:16:07.460 --> 00:16:10.000 what most people know. That's the very basic 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:14.139 thing is the physical aspect of sex. What I'm 00:16:14.139 --> 00:16:17.480 talking about is. That power that you feel, is 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:20.179 there more there? What if you and your partner 00:16:20.179 --> 00:16:24.639 focus intention together, or if you're by yourself, 00:16:24.740 --> 00:16:26.379 by the way, because you don't even have to practice 00:16:26.379 --> 00:16:29.159 sex magic with someone, but I'm going to be focused 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:31.740 more on what you can do with two people or more. 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:34.679 If you are able to focus with someone else and 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:38.460 their intention, and you go into this sexual 00:16:38.460 --> 00:16:40.820 act that would normally be something that is 00:16:40.820 --> 00:16:44.580 much more just physical, and you elevate it to 00:16:44.580 --> 00:16:48.750 a mental, and a spiritual a soul level if you 00:16:48.750 --> 00:16:53.870 will you're able to harness energy that was before 00:16:53.870 --> 00:16:57.809 that untapped so that's kind of what i'm getting 00:16:57.809 --> 00:17:00.809 at socrates is all the chemicals and stuff that 00:17:00.809 --> 00:17:04.150 we talked about explain why it happens but what 00:17:04.150 --> 00:17:07.509 we're talking about is creating reality based 00:17:07.509 --> 00:17:12.529 on focusing yourself and changing what was normally 00:17:12.529 --> 00:17:16.319 not there where there was nothing now there is 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:19.960 something by the sheer force of will and i'll 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:22.799 give you one example of this you can have a tree 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:27.059 in the woods it's just a tree now you take that 00:17:27.059 --> 00:17:30.460 same tree and a bunch of wiccan chicks go out 00:17:30.460 --> 00:17:33.519 there in the woods and they strip naked and they 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:36.039 start dancing around and carving runes into it 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:39.559 that means something to them and they're chanting 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:43.839 a song that's ancient that means something to 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:47.900 them on the solstice when the earth is changing 00:17:47.900 --> 00:17:52.079 and giving birth and the moon is in the sky literally 00:17:52.079 --> 00:17:55.420 pulling our oceans and tides because it's so 00:17:55.420 --> 00:17:58.799 powerful and they believe and have intention 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:03.160 as they dance around that tree and practice their 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:06.819 scale their spell casting i dare say that tree 00:18:06.819 --> 00:18:10.720 is no longer just a tree it was before But the 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:13.200 power of will and what those women are doing 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:16.980 around it creates something new. And you can 00:18:16.980 --> 00:18:19.079 be skeptical all you want, but if you've ever 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:22.099 been around something like this, you tend to 00:18:22.099 --> 00:18:25.660 see that there is something there. So that's 00:18:25.660 --> 00:18:27.539 kind of what I'm talking about. I love it. I 00:18:27.539 --> 00:18:30.779 love it. And for our audience, since, Pagan, 00:18:30.859 --> 00:18:33.660 you're coming from the skeptic's perspective, 00:18:33.859 --> 00:18:37.319 I want to share a book that I think people should 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:40.880 look into. If you're a skeptic and you're interested 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:44.119 in like these things from a scientific perspective 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:48.140 or an evidence -based perspective, there's a 00:18:48.140 --> 00:18:53.220 really great book called The Source by Dr. Tara 00:18:53.220 --> 00:18:57.539 Swart. And she's an MD, PhD, and she just gives 00:18:57.539 --> 00:19:01.059 really practical and scientific -based examples 00:19:01.059 --> 00:19:04.000 of how this stuff really works. So then when 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:06.039 Pagan starts getting into some of the practices. 00:19:07.150 --> 00:19:11.970 You can go as far as me and Siren do because 00:19:11.970 --> 00:19:17.569 we are firm believers in not only God, but the 00:19:17.569 --> 00:19:19.970 law of attraction and manifestation and that 00:19:19.970 --> 00:19:24.910 these are abilities to create for us. You don't 00:19:24.910 --> 00:19:28.190 have to go that far if you're not a believer. 00:19:28.450 --> 00:19:32.829 You can just rely strictly on empirical data 00:19:32.829 --> 00:19:35.950 and the science. Either way. you're gonna get 00:19:35.950 --> 00:19:40.509 there i agree yeah and then you know if you'd 00:19:40.509 --> 00:19:43.210 like we can talk a little bit about like some 00:19:43.210 --> 00:19:45.750 of the ways that you can enter into sex magic 00:19:45.750 --> 00:19:48.869 um some of the avenues and channels through which 00:19:48.869 --> 00:19:51.309 people do it and then i can talk personally about 00:19:51.309 --> 00:19:52.650 like some of the things that i've experienced 00:19:52.650 --> 00:19:54.589 and what i've used that have been powerful for 00:19:54.589 --> 00:19:58.109 me you know one of the things is there's a cocktail 00:19:58.109 --> 00:20:00.410 of things you can use but one of them is like 00:20:00.410 --> 00:20:02.990 the union archetypes a lot of people use them 00:20:03.630 --> 00:20:08.170 So you're integrating this unconscious mythological 00:20:08.170 --> 00:20:10.910 basement that, you know, Carl Jung talked about 00:20:10.910 --> 00:20:12.930 that's inside of all of us. You know, there's 00:20:12.930 --> 00:20:15.809 the shadow, the anima and the animus. And they 00:20:15.809 --> 00:20:17.490 have these archetypes, the hero, the mother, 00:20:17.630 --> 00:20:22.109 the crone. These symbolic things that he theorized 00:20:22.109 --> 00:20:24.369 are in all of us. And it's the reason why, for 00:20:24.369 --> 00:20:27.829 instance, like myths, whether it be... you know 00:20:27.829 --> 00:20:31.509 an ancient greek myth or an african fable or 00:20:31.509 --> 00:20:34.349 lord of the rings or star wars they're all myths 00:20:34.349 --> 00:20:37.809 and there's a reason why around the world people 00:20:37.809 --> 00:20:40.130 can listen to these stories and get engrossed 00:20:40.130 --> 00:20:42.630 in them these are all because they're based in 00:20:42.630 --> 00:20:45.569 these jungian archetypes that's one way that 00:20:45.569 --> 00:20:49.359 people go into these sex magic ceremonies if 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:52.160 you embody the warrior and you're making love 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:56.460 to a woman who is in her divine feminine or you 00:20:56.460 --> 00:21:00.119 want to face your shadow side your trauma and 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:03.319 get power where you had been had your power taken 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:05.740 away from you these are all things you can do 00:21:05.740 --> 00:21:08.380 through the young and archetypes in sex magic 00:21:08.380 --> 00:21:12.299 and i have found those to be extremely powers 00:21:12.299 --> 00:21:15.619 powerful Because the arousal and all those chemicals 00:21:15.619 --> 00:21:18.400 we talked about, it changes from just an abstract 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:21.819 concept into something visceral, something real. 00:21:22.299 --> 00:21:26.420 You are the warrior. She is the inner divine 00:21:26.420 --> 00:21:29.700 feminine. And then your body reprograms itself 00:21:29.700 --> 00:21:32.420 because of what I talked about earlier. And then 00:21:32.420 --> 00:21:35.680 when you go into situations later, you can access 00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:38.039 the divine feminine because your body, your neural 00:21:38.039 --> 00:21:40.579 pathways are like, oh, no, I got this. I know 00:21:40.579 --> 00:21:42.700 I'm divine feminine because. the other day in 00:21:42.700 --> 00:21:45.839 that sex magic thing i was starting to rewire 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:48.640 myself to be that so i'm with you and now you 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:51.220 can take that stuff out into the real world in 00:21:51.220 --> 00:21:53.880 ways that you just couldn't before because you 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:59.400 have changed your reality um another way our 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:02.880 chakras this is more the tantric energy centers 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:05.500 but they cross -pollinate with the union things 00:22:05.500 --> 00:22:08.680 that i was talking about these same chakras have 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:12.140 an archetype correspondent So, for instance, 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:14.839 like the one that people think of the most with 00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:18.539 sex is the sacral chakra, you know, the pelvis, 00:22:18.660 --> 00:22:21.859 the genitals. That's desire, emotion, pleasure. 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:26.200 But that is also a Jungian archetype. That's 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:30.240 the lover or the shadow version of that is the 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:33.539 prostitute, which, by the way, is not bad, by 00:22:33.539 --> 00:22:36.759 the way. I want to point out because we're. You 00:22:36.759 --> 00:22:39.319 know, we grow up in a Judeo -Christian society 00:22:39.319 --> 00:22:42.420 here in the West. The shadow is looked at as 00:22:42.420 --> 00:22:45.900 evil, bad, stay away from it. And these archetypes, 00:22:45.900 --> 00:22:48.819 shadow is not bad at all. It's just the other 00:22:48.819 --> 00:22:52.599 side of you. I think Jung famously said, if I 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:55.680 don't cast a shadow, then how am I whole? It 00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:57.839 just means that you're a human that has another 00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:00.400 side. So I just want to be clear. But all of 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:03.680 these things with the chakras, you can also tap 00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:06.240 into your heart, your throat. your third eye 00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:08.920 these are all linked to these things too and 00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:11.980 you can cross -pollinate them and and use them 00:23:11.980 --> 00:23:16.359 in sex magic again whatever speaks to you is 00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:19.359 what you can tap into and as for myself personally 00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:24.859 i've tapped into some to two things usually i'm 00:23:24.859 --> 00:23:28.680 always adapting to my partner um i don't particularly 00:23:28.680 --> 00:23:32.269 practice sex magic on my own by myself Usually, 00:23:32.430 --> 00:23:35.109 so I'm not as adept to speak on that, but that 00:23:35.109 --> 00:23:37.710 is definitely something that you can do on your 00:23:37.710 --> 00:23:42.069 own and manifest things. But I do like the amplification 00:23:42.069 --> 00:23:46.869 of bouncing off of a partner. And I just feel 00:23:46.869 --> 00:23:49.950 better when I'm not bringing everything to the 00:23:49.950 --> 00:23:53.710 table and when I'm waiting to meet someone and 00:23:53.710 --> 00:23:56.529 seeing what they bring. And then I'm able to 00:23:56.529 --> 00:24:00.369 go, okay, now I know that I am the yin to that 00:24:00.369 --> 00:24:03.369 yang. i know how to fit in and fill in the gaps 00:24:03.369 --> 00:24:06.509 to that particular person it's not a cookie cutter 00:24:06.509 --> 00:24:09.569 thing that i'm just doing every time and so for 00:24:09.569 --> 00:24:12.950 me because of the way i play the kind of partners 00:24:12.950 --> 00:24:17.130 i have in our areas of interest interracial is 00:24:17.130 --> 00:24:21.430 one of the things that i use to tap into the 00:24:21.430 --> 00:24:27.569 magnetic attraction between black and white between 00:24:27.569 --> 00:24:33.559 the polar opposites The yin -yang symbol that's 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:36.279 ancient, that literally is usually black and 00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:39.779 white where one ends, the other fills in. Those 00:24:39.779 --> 00:24:42.279 are things that I have tapped into because it 00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:45.319 just works for me and my partners. But also another 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.819 thing that I've tapped into is what is called 00:24:48.819 --> 00:24:52.240 sacred geometry, particularly the triangle, because 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:55.039 again, this is just for me. I'm often interacting 00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:58.539 with couples. So I'm entering something where 00:24:58.539 --> 00:25:01.299 there's already two points. I become a third 00:25:01.299 --> 00:25:05.299 point. And that triangle can have power. There's 00:25:05.299 --> 00:25:09.039 a reason why you see triangles all through nature. 00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:12.819 Every snowflake, if you zoom in on it, is made 00:25:12.819 --> 00:25:16.599 of them. Every pyramid that was built was built 00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:19.400 that way for a reason. And I like to build off 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:22.480 of that triangle of the three people. So that's 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:24.599 a couple of the things that I personally have 00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:28.660 done. So, again, I'll shut up and let you guys, 00:25:28.779 --> 00:25:31.759 you know. chat but those are some of the things 00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:35.059 in terms of physically how you can go about entering 00:25:35.059 --> 00:25:38.440 into sex magic if any of those things you know 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:41.640 speak to you and there's others so pegan give 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:43.779 us tell us a little story about how you got into 00:25:43.779 --> 00:25:46.720 this like what what was the experience that you 00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:49.960 had or experiences or community or whatever that 00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:53.880 that led you here from skeptic to on a podcast 00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:57.160 teaching of us about it yeah so i can tell you 00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:01.619 exactly when no pun intended, that seminal moment 00:26:01.619 --> 00:26:06.700 happened. I was with a woman. We were playing 00:26:06.700 --> 00:26:12.319 She's Very Witchy. And at a certain point, she 00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:15.920 started speaking in a different language. And 00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:21.180 I was shook. As you can imagine, like, it just 00:26:21.180 --> 00:26:24.440 popped out of her. And I didn't recognize the 00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:28.160 language. So... i immediately stopped as anyone 00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:32.779 would and i you know i laugh at myself now but 00:26:32.779 --> 00:26:35.980 at the time i could only go on what i know and 00:26:35.980 --> 00:26:38.380 i thought she was having a neurological episode 00:26:38.380 --> 00:26:41.000 you know like a person can have a stroke and 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:44.440 they can't speak words or it comes out mum you 00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:47.460 know mumbo jumbo that's what it sounded like 00:26:47.460 --> 00:26:50.519 to me like something i don't recognize so i stopped 00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:54.000 and i'm like are you okay and she immediately 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:56.390 snapped back And it was like, no, no, no, I'm 00:26:56.390 --> 00:26:58.789 fine. That happens. Just keep going. So we continued 00:26:58.789 --> 00:27:01.230 playing. She continued speaking in this language. 00:27:01.490 --> 00:27:04.430 And then after we're done, as you can imagine, 00:27:04.569 --> 00:27:09.269 I was like, so what the fuck was that? And she 00:27:09.269 --> 00:27:12.450 had to break down to me like, well, that happens 00:27:12.450 --> 00:27:17.029 sometimes. I can go into this thing called light 00:27:17.029 --> 00:27:19.809 language where I speak light language. And you 00:27:19.809 --> 00:27:22.089 may have also heard this as speaking in tongues. 00:27:22.269 --> 00:27:27.670 It's pretty much the same thing. I am I'm skeptical 00:27:27.670 --> 00:27:31.230 about a lot of things until, you know, I get 00:27:31.230 --> 00:27:33.509 some more proof. And I was particularly skeptical 00:27:33.509 --> 00:27:37.069 about speaking in tongues because as a person 00:27:37.069 --> 00:27:40.069 who likes evidence, I'm like, OK, you might be 00:27:40.069 --> 00:27:43.029 speaking in tongues. But it's interesting when 00:27:43.029 --> 00:27:45.410 I see somebody in a tent in Georgia handling 00:27:45.410 --> 00:27:48.190 snakes and they're speaking in tongues. I'm like, 00:27:48.210 --> 00:27:51.029 it's interesting. I can't check on this. Like, 00:27:51.069 --> 00:27:53.730 it's not based in Latin. It's not based in Greek. 00:27:53.829 --> 00:27:56.750 Nothing. So I just have to take your word for 00:27:56.750 --> 00:27:59.609 it that this language is a language Because it 00:27:59.609 --> 00:28:01.109 sounds to me like you might just be mumbling 00:28:01.109 --> 00:28:04.089 stuff That was the place I was coming from when 00:28:04.089 --> 00:28:05.990 it came to that to be honest But then I'm in 00:28:05.990 --> 00:28:08.089 front of this woman and she's not trying to sell 00:28:08.089 --> 00:28:10.670 me anything I didn't pay her a fucking nickel 00:28:10.670 --> 00:28:13.849 at a carnival to fucking do a trick There's no 00:28:13.849 --> 00:28:16.609 reason for her to try to freak me out and do 00:28:16.609 --> 00:28:20.049 this. This was real She went into another state 00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:23.579 and was speaking something ancient through sex. 00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:27.960 And I had never experienced that before. But 00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:30.819 she told me when she's with certain people, and 00:28:30.819 --> 00:28:33.980 this is early on for me, certain people who are 00:28:33.980 --> 00:28:38.460 receptive can be a conduit for her and it allows 00:28:38.460 --> 00:28:41.359 her to go into that state. If she's with a partner 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:45.700 who is not receptive, it never comes out. There's 00:28:45.700 --> 00:28:48.680 a part of her that knows when to lay her gifts 00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:51.519 before an altar. and when to keep them to herself 00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:54.559 so as much as i was a skeptic apparently i was 00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.799 open -minded apparently there was something about 00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:01.880 me where her somatic nervous system her spiritual 00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:05.680 side her witchiness felt comfortable so that 00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:09.000 was my first experience socrates with i don't 00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:12.059 know what this is but it's powerful and it feels 00:29:12.059 --> 00:29:15.279 real even though a minute ago if you asked me 00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:17.119 i would have probably laughed at it and then 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:19.420 i started taking this stuff way more seriously 00:29:20.029 --> 00:29:22.589 and came to find out for instance that the language 00:29:22.589 --> 00:29:26.170 she was speaking at that time she couldn't translate 00:29:26.170 --> 00:29:29.309 it afterwards she couldn't tell me oh this is 00:29:29.309 --> 00:29:31.109 what i was saying i was saying that she was like 00:29:31.109 --> 00:29:34.210 all i can tell you is when i'm saying it it's 00:29:34.210 --> 00:29:37.849 not me it's just me speaking but then when we're 00:29:37.849 --> 00:29:41.230 done with the actual act of sex and it goes away 00:29:41.230 --> 00:29:44.910 she couldn't tap back into it but i have since 00:29:44.910 --> 00:29:48.559 learned She can do that now. She can remember 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:51.140 what she was saying and translate it now because 00:29:51.140 --> 00:29:53.640 she's had some years where she's gone into this 00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:57.200 more. And I'm saying all that to say, this woman 00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:01.480 had what I call witchy antlers. She has antenna 00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:05.240 that pick up things that frankly, I don't pick 00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:08.759 up or didn't pick up at that time. And I'm starting 00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:11.599 to pick up more because my antlers are growing. 00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.619 My antennas are growing more. and so i'm picking 00:30:14.619 --> 00:30:17.400 up wavelengths and i'm doing things i did an 00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:21.039 ayahuasca journey recently and i was speaking 00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:24.099 light language out of the blue and surprised 00:30:24.099 --> 00:30:27.079 myself i did not see it coming i don't even know 00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:30.640 what the language was this is my first time but 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:32.940 something channeled through me and it happened 00:30:32.940 --> 00:30:37.839 to me so i've gone again from you know being 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:40.099 skeptical of this stuff to actually doing it 00:30:40.099 --> 00:30:43.539 myself I'm feeling in reality. You were hit by 00:30:43.539 --> 00:30:46.880 the spirit in the South, in the South, in the 00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:51.279 biblical, in the, in the, in the Bible. And then 00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:55.180 in church, you will hear preachers preach. And 00:30:55.180 --> 00:30:57.759 all of a sudden they start speaking in tone because 00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:01.619 the Holy spirit has gotten inside of them is, 00:31:01.700 --> 00:31:04.619 I guess that's the same thing as involving sex 00:31:04.619 --> 00:31:08.549 magic. You know, there are some people, some 00:31:08.549 --> 00:31:12.230 ladies, some men, but that spirit, that sexual 00:31:12.230 --> 00:31:14.670 spirit gets inside of you and you start speaking 00:31:14.670 --> 00:31:18.069 in tone. And now you're here again. You are becoming 00:31:18.069 --> 00:31:21.130 a master because you're understanding now exactly 00:31:21.130 --> 00:31:23.509 what you're saying. At first, you didn't know 00:31:23.509 --> 00:31:25.109 what it was. You just thought you were just mumbling. 00:31:25.329 --> 00:31:28.430 But no, you were not mumbling. You have now mastered 00:31:28.430 --> 00:31:31.970 understanding the spirit hitting your body. So 00:31:31.970 --> 00:31:34.099 that's a beautiful thing right there. that's 00:31:34.099 --> 00:31:36.259 beautiful yeah you're absolutely right that's 00:31:36.259 --> 00:31:39.079 a really good way to explain it to a lot of people 00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:42.240 have been in a black church baptist churches 00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:46.819 they they they get they catch the holy ghost 00:31:46.819 --> 00:31:50.339 right exactly that is something and i'm just 00:31:50.339 --> 00:31:52.619 being honest about myself i didn't grow up in 00:31:52.619 --> 00:31:54.500 that kind of church i grew up in a church but 00:31:54.500 --> 00:31:56.519 it wasn't that kind of church and i always side 00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.019 -eyed that like okay that seems like a bit much 00:32:00.019 --> 00:32:04.359 maybe you just like the music But I've learned 00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:09.299 now how little I know. And there are metaphysical 00:32:09.299 --> 00:32:14.160 qualities to the way our bodies and the whole 00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:17.819 universe works that we don't fully understand. 00:32:18.299 --> 00:32:22.960 And I have to say that I look at it a lot like 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:28.099 radio waves. Radio waves have existed since the 00:32:28.099 --> 00:32:31.799 literal Big Bang. They're billions of years old. 00:32:31.900 --> 00:32:37.960 It wasn't until the early 1900s that we started 00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:41.420 saying, oh, I can put talk radio on that signal. 00:32:41.579 --> 00:32:44.559 I can put music on that signal. And I can send 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:48.299 it all around the planet on FM and AM. The waves 00:32:48.299 --> 00:32:52.099 were just sitting there all that time through 00:32:52.099 --> 00:32:54.980 the birth of humanity, through all those billions 00:32:54.980 --> 00:32:58.309 of years. And for us to say that, oh, well, they 00:32:58.309 --> 00:33:01.710 exist now because we found them would be ridiculous. 00:33:02.150 --> 00:33:04.730 They were always there. The question is, did 00:33:04.730 --> 00:33:07.289 you have an antenna to pick it up? Did you know 00:33:07.289 --> 00:33:09.990 how to harness that power? Because the power 00:33:09.990 --> 00:33:12.289 is just sitting there waiting for you. I look 00:33:12.289 --> 00:33:14.509 at this like that. The power is just sitting 00:33:14.509 --> 00:33:17.950 there waiting for you to believe in it and to 00:33:17.950 --> 00:33:20.089 figure out how to harness it and to get your 00:33:20.089 --> 00:33:22.950 antenna right. And once it starts coming through. 00:33:23.659 --> 00:33:26.680 you're going to hear that sex magic music. That's 00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:30.640 how I look at it. What does it sound like? It 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.539 sounds like whatever you want to make is iron. 00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:34.920 Like that's the beautiful thing about it. Like 00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:36.859 for me, it sounds like some of the things that 00:33:36.859 --> 00:33:39.799 I brought out, you know, because those are the 00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:42.380 things that I'm interested in. And frankly, those 00:33:42.380 --> 00:33:44.720 are the things that have power to me. So I'm 00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:48.640 able to create with them. But for you, it could 00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:51.019 be something completely different. It could be 00:33:51.019 --> 00:33:54.289 your divine feminine. It could be the goddess 00:33:54.289 --> 00:33:57.769 in you that you feel your partner worshiping 00:33:57.769 --> 00:34:00.670 and you realize, oh, I'm not just queen energy. 00:34:00.789 --> 00:34:05.349 I'm goddess energy. I can turn a man into my 00:34:05.349 --> 00:34:09.869 altar and like a succubus, you will transform 00:34:09.869 --> 00:34:12.650 not only yourself, but him. And he will be like, 00:34:12.750 --> 00:34:15.869 what the fuck did you just do to me, siren? And 00:34:15.869 --> 00:34:19.409 it will all be what I would call sex magic because 00:34:19.409 --> 00:34:22.000 of the power of what you believe. Or if you're 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:23.980 lucky, the two of you are believing together 00:34:23.980 --> 00:34:27.619 and creating together. And then once you experience 00:34:27.619 --> 00:34:31.380 it, you can't go back. You can't unbelieve it. 00:34:31.739 --> 00:34:34.659 You can't choose what you believe. You just believe 00:34:34.659 --> 00:34:37.179 things or you don't. So, you know, the music 00:34:37.179 --> 00:34:39.199 is different for everybody. Do you think there's 00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:41.619 some people out there, too, that are already 00:34:41.619 --> 00:34:45.039 practicing it to some degree, but they just don't 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:52.409 know what it was? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's 00:34:52.409 --> 00:34:54.389 what that woman was telling me the first time, 00:34:54.469 --> 00:34:59.269 is you're adept to this. You have a propensity 00:34:59.269 --> 00:35:01.829 toward it if you get out of your own way with 00:35:01.829 --> 00:35:04.590 all of your doubt and your skepticism and, frankly, 00:35:04.690 --> 00:35:07.949 my ignorance of side -eyeing and kind of giggling 00:35:07.949 --> 00:35:10.349 at it. If you free your mind. Which, by the way, 00:35:10.469 --> 00:35:12.730 I'm... Yeah, if you free your mind, exactly. 00:35:12.789 --> 00:35:15.869 Like I said, we're back to Morpheus. or in vogue, 00:35:15.949 --> 00:35:18.150 if you were a fan. But I think that that's an 00:35:18.150 --> 00:35:19.750 important aspect to this because I'm going to 00:35:19.750 --> 00:35:21.010 be straight up with you. I'm not going to speak 00:35:21.010 --> 00:35:23.570 for other people, but I guarantee you I'm going 00:35:23.570 --> 00:35:25.050 to be speaking for other people when I say this. 00:35:25.309 --> 00:35:28.010 I was raised Christian and black in America. 00:35:28.849 --> 00:35:30.989 There's a bunch of walls right there in that 00:35:30.989 --> 00:35:34.610 statement to stay away from sex magic. Culturally, 00:35:34.789 --> 00:35:36.909 there's a lot of times when black people see 00:35:36.909 --> 00:35:41.329 that and they go, oh, that ain't right. Because 00:35:41.329 --> 00:35:45.960 Jesus, frankly. Because Christianity. They were 00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:48.579 taught anything that says something like sex 00:35:48.579 --> 00:35:52.260 magic, that must mean an antithesis of what I 00:35:52.260 --> 00:35:55.699 was raised in. And that means it's wrong. And 00:35:55.699 --> 00:35:59.320 that's the devil. That's the darkness. Shadow 00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:02.239 sex magic especially. That's got to be evil. 00:36:02.380 --> 00:36:04.420 I'm staying away from that. I'm not going to 00:36:04.420 --> 00:36:06.940 that haunted house. There's a lot of things about 00:36:06.940 --> 00:36:11.320 my upbringing that caused me to push this away. 00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:15.219 to laugh at it to diminish it and to not give 00:36:15.219 --> 00:36:19.599 it the credence it deserved and also just my 00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.559 scientific mind the fact that i am an empiricist 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.059 the fact that i am interested in what can you 00:36:25.059 --> 00:36:29.079 prove that had an entire blind spot for me where 00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:33.199 i was not looking at this because it isn't provable 00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:36.519 in a certain way but i had to change my metrics 00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:40.599 by what is real because again I was looking for 00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:42.900 objective reality when I should have been looking 00:36:42.900 --> 00:36:45.360 for what can be a subjective reality that I can 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:48.300 create. Pagan, let's talk about, let's talk about 00:36:48.300 --> 00:36:52.260 you affecting other people, because this is all 00:36:52.260 --> 00:36:55.199 making sense to me when I'm saying like, okay, 00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:57.579 well, just for everybody, you know, just for 00:36:57.579 --> 00:37:00.059 the audience to know, I had an, I've, I've had 00:37:00.059 --> 00:37:02.179 an experience with this right. Actually, before 00:37:02.179 --> 00:37:06.940 I met Siren, I dated a Hoodoo priestess who was 00:37:06.940 --> 00:37:10.960 part of an order and everything. And she's pretty 00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:14.900 much a witch. But from hoodoo is the original 00:37:14.900 --> 00:37:19.639 African version of these beliefs. And she taught 00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:23.159 me about sex magic. And she gave me really simple 00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:26.320 things like just saying affirmations and visualizing. 00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:30.159 So doing orgasms and things like that. I know 00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:31.980 that's just the beginning of it. I thought she 00:37:31.980 --> 00:37:36.550 only taught you to say roll time. That's a true 00:37:36.550 --> 00:37:39.550 story. Oh, I had to poke that in there. I had 00:37:39.550 --> 00:37:41.750 to poke that in there. Well, it's a true story. 00:37:41.869 --> 00:37:43.710 Because he told me when I met, he's like, just 00:37:43.710 --> 00:37:45.809 don't ever say roll tide when you're coming. 00:37:46.110 --> 00:37:48.090 So, of course, I had to do it at least once. 00:37:48.349 --> 00:37:51.429 I love how Siren trolls you while she's fucking 00:37:51.429 --> 00:37:53.489 you. That's amazing. That's true love right there. 00:37:53.630 --> 00:37:56.780 I do. I like to laugh during play. You know, 00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:58.460 you're over here bringing people to the depths 00:37:58.460 --> 00:38:02.619 of ecstasy. And I'm over there like this. Oh, 00:38:02.739 --> 00:38:05.440 I got to tell you guys this interjection. It's 00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:10.940 the opposite of sex magic. This guy, I was telling 00:38:10.940 --> 00:38:13.880 him like, hey, you need to kind of like slow 00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:16.960 down. You know, I'd like you to slow down with 00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:19.539 things. And he said, well, if I slow down, he's 00:38:19.539 --> 00:38:21.599 fairly new to the lifestyle. He said, I feel 00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:23.739 like I'm making love to you and I only want to 00:38:23.739 --> 00:38:26.659 make love to my girlfriend. And I said, we don't 00:38:26.659 --> 00:38:29.659 make love, buddy. We're making friendship juice. 00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:32.239 And I said, and I don't make love. I don't make 00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:34.380 love to anyone but my husband because I'm too 00:38:34.380 --> 00:38:37.079 busy making jokes. And he said, you got that 00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:39.699 right. So he always tells me I'm a black woman 00:38:39.699 --> 00:38:42.409 trapped in a white woman's body. Pretty funny. 00:38:42.550 --> 00:38:45.489 Anyway, opposite of sex magic. All that was free. 00:38:45.670 --> 00:38:47.829 All that was free. I had to lighten things up. 00:38:47.889 --> 00:38:51.110 My brain was starting to contract and expand. 00:38:51.349 --> 00:38:53.630 It's a lot for Siren. But that's what this podcast 00:38:53.630 --> 00:38:58.409 is about. We are talking about bulls and everybody 00:38:58.409 --> 00:39:01.230 else in the lifestyle from our perspective, and 00:39:01.230 --> 00:39:04.230 we're talking to high -level operators, like 00:39:04.230 --> 00:39:08.809 Mr. Mocha says. And so this is how deep high 00:39:08.809 --> 00:39:11.510 -level operators go. Pagan's not going to call 00:39:11.510 --> 00:39:13.130 himself that, but that's what I'm calling him. 00:39:13.389 --> 00:39:16.949 Right. So let's talk about how it affects other 00:39:16.949 --> 00:39:21.789 people. I get how it could affect me, but explain, 00:39:21.909 --> 00:39:24.809 especially from a scientific perspective and 00:39:24.809 --> 00:39:28.289 from the magic perspective, how that's affecting 00:39:28.289 --> 00:39:31.679 my play partner. yeah well i mean there's a couple 00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:34.059 of things like what's interesting to me is i 00:39:34.059 --> 00:39:36.139 started looking into this and learning more about 00:39:36.139 --> 00:39:40.300 it um even between people like what you're talking 00:39:40.300 --> 00:39:42.639 about like how do i affect the person next to 00:39:42.639 --> 00:39:45.219 me there's been like studies that they've done 00:39:45.219 --> 00:39:48.760 where people who meditate or chant or just breathe 00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:52.340 and sync with each other their brain waves start 00:39:52.340 --> 00:39:55.119 to synchronize with each other the theta and 00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:59.500 alpha i believe specifically They go into sync 00:39:59.500 --> 00:40:03.340 with each other just by being near someone who's 00:40:03.340 --> 00:40:05.500 meditating, chanting and breathing like you. 00:40:07.059 --> 00:40:09.780 Also, your heart rhythms, your EEG patterns, 00:40:10.019 --> 00:40:12.219 they can start to align. There's been studies 00:40:12.219 --> 00:40:14.820 on this. That is something that we don't even 00:40:14.820 --> 00:40:17.800 fully understand why that happens. But there's 00:40:17.800 --> 00:40:21.659 a resonant field between people and it's measurable. 00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:26.599 So I'm going to step in and be nerd and get so. 00:40:27.190 --> 00:40:30.409 Siren is, she's a professional petty, nerdy petty. 00:40:30.590 --> 00:40:34.789 So all of that you said, we have an exercise. 00:40:35.530 --> 00:40:39.449 We don't chant, but we do pray together. I make 00:40:39.449 --> 00:40:43.269 her put her hand on my heart to connect with 00:40:43.269 --> 00:40:48.809 my heartbeat. And then we take three heavy coordinated 00:40:48.809 --> 00:40:53.650 breaths together. And all of that has been scientifically 00:40:53.650 --> 00:40:58.360 proven, as Pagan says. to align not only your 00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:02.239 thought patterns but your heart rhythms and just 00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:05.820 creates this insane connection and vibration 00:41:05.820 --> 00:41:09.400 and eventually we've just started realizing this 00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:11.059 and we've been doing this for about what two 00:41:11.059 --> 00:41:14.139 years now mommy yeah yeah we are really starting 00:41:14.139 --> 00:41:17.440 to think we're i will call her and be like hell's 00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:18.800 thinking that she was like you know i was just 00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:22.139 thinking that and then she'll do it to me she'll 00:41:22.139 --> 00:41:24.619 call me and i was like i was just concerned about 00:41:24.619 --> 00:41:27.039 that or i was just worried about that or i was 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.239 just going to call you about that and it is it's 00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:33.059 real y 'all we do it it's real yeah we did it 00:41:33.059 --> 00:41:35.179 since we moved in together we started it pretty 00:41:35.179 --> 00:41:38.000 pretty quickly yeah we should really do it at 00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:41.000 night too before bed yeah probably should that 00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:43.260 would be done yeah and sometimes if i'm just 00:41:43.260 --> 00:41:45.500 feeling anxious he'll pull me close and we'll 00:41:45.500 --> 00:41:48.579 do the same thing yeah it's just like a decompression 00:41:48.579 --> 00:41:50.909 exercise at any time of the day if i'm I'm feeling 00:41:50.909 --> 00:41:53.530 anxious. Yeah. I'll say two things about that. 00:41:53.949 --> 00:41:56.889 Let's say that, let's say I was skeptical about 00:41:56.889 --> 00:41:59.150 that, which I'm not, but let's just say I was. 00:41:59.389 --> 00:42:03.429 It's real to you guys. It works. So let's say 00:42:03.429 --> 00:42:05.690 that I was like, oh, I don't know about the science 00:42:05.690 --> 00:42:09.349 behind this. I'm skeptical. The placebo pill 00:42:09.349 --> 00:42:12.369 that makes me not feel sick, to me, I don't give 00:42:12.369 --> 00:42:15.630 a fuck if it's a placebo pill. I'm better. Right. 00:42:15.909 --> 00:42:21.550 If I feel better, I am better. i understand what 00:42:21.550 --> 00:42:24.250 you guys just said is actually being rooted in 00:42:24.250 --> 00:42:26.590 the science that i've learned so i do believe 00:42:26.590 --> 00:42:29.590 it scientifically but even if i didn't i would 00:42:29.590 --> 00:42:33.190 be like that is you guys creating a reality between 00:42:33.190 --> 00:42:36.210 the two of you is what you just described now 00:42:36.210 --> 00:42:38.530 on top of what socrates which is saying like 00:42:38.530 --> 00:42:41.869 there was a study in 2010 i think it's called 00:42:41.869 --> 00:42:45.969 the energetic heart and electromagnetic fields 00:42:45.969 --> 00:42:49.170 from our hearts they found out They extend like 00:42:49.170 --> 00:42:52.070 three to 10 feet from your body. That's a real 00:42:52.070 --> 00:42:54.469 thing. And that's what you're talking about with 00:42:54.469 --> 00:42:57.489 the hard thing. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say 00:42:57.489 --> 00:43:00.210 that is the day I believe in the law of attraction, 00:43:00.369 --> 00:43:03.230 because if anybody has seen the secret, that's 00:43:03.230 --> 00:43:04.889 like the biggest thing that they talk about, 00:43:04.909 --> 00:43:07.269 the manifestation of the law of attraction. It 00:43:07.269 --> 00:43:09.590 gives you this impression and people have claimed 00:43:09.590 --> 00:43:12.590 that your energy can go out all the way to the 00:43:12.590 --> 00:43:15.150 ends of the earth. And I'm like, it doesn't have 00:43:15.150 --> 00:43:21.059 to. You do, because I saw that study, you vibrate 00:43:21.059 --> 00:43:24.519 at certain frequencies. That frequency has a 00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:27.800 signature. Other human beings, their heart and 00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:31.239 EKG are picking that up. That frequency can be 00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:34.519 carried. If you are manifesting something and 00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:37.099 it needs to get to China, just by you being in 00:43:37.099 --> 00:43:41.219 that vibration around just the people you're 00:43:41.219 --> 00:43:47.190 around, it'll get there. It doesn't have to travel 00:43:47.190 --> 00:43:50.090 hundreds of thousands of miles. It only has to 00:43:50.090 --> 00:43:51.969 travel three to five feet. You just got to be 00:43:51.969 --> 00:43:54.210 in proximity of other people and you got to be 00:43:54.210 --> 00:43:56.989 vibrating the thing that you want. You have to 00:43:56.989 --> 00:44:00.289 have the frequency of ecstasy or the frequency 00:44:00.289 --> 00:44:03.829 of seduction or the frequency of confidence. 00:44:04.349 --> 00:44:06.869 And the, how you vibrate the frequency is you 00:44:06.869 --> 00:44:09.250 act that way. You talk that way. You think that 00:44:09.250 --> 00:44:12.650 way you practice in your mind, in your eyes, 00:44:12.750 --> 00:44:16.289 you just. be it by acting and thinking and practicing. 00:44:16.469 --> 00:44:19.610 And so here's the thing. There was a TikTok I 00:44:19.610 --> 00:44:21.429 saw. I loved it. I'm going to butcher it, but 00:44:21.429 --> 00:44:23.250 I'm going to try to do it the best. It says, 00:44:23.389 --> 00:44:27.570 Christians call it faith. Witches call it spells. 00:44:28.530 --> 00:44:31.610 Scientists call it placebo. You know, mysticists 00:44:31.610 --> 00:44:34.349 call it the law of attraction, but they all agree. 00:44:34.750 --> 00:44:37.909 Absolutely. That's absolutely. That's a really 00:44:37.909 --> 00:44:41.510 good way to put it. no matter what avenue that 00:44:41.510 --> 00:44:43.750 you chose out of all those things you just said, 00:44:43.929 --> 00:44:46.989 they're all arriving at the same place. And that's 00:44:46.989 --> 00:44:49.469 where I've arrived, you know? And yeah, I think 00:44:49.469 --> 00:44:51.170 that what you're talking about, you know, you, 00:44:51.230 --> 00:44:54.309 you asked like, how, how can I influence someone 00:44:54.309 --> 00:44:57.949 else just by being open and receptive? I'm influencing, 00:44:58.030 --> 00:45:00.969 but I'm also, because I've done this a few times, 00:45:01.050 --> 00:45:04.849 I'm able to communicate with a partner and I, 00:45:04.929 --> 00:45:08.750 or partners with a couple. with a single person 00:45:08.750 --> 00:45:12.929 and I'm able to tap into what resonates with 00:45:12.929 --> 00:45:16.429 me and them and start building the foundation 00:45:16.429 --> 00:45:21.889 stones of that pyramid or whatever that temple 00:45:21.889 --> 00:45:24.329 is that we're building in that space that we're 00:45:24.329 --> 00:45:29.710 in. And that to me is the real joy of it. is 00:45:29.710 --> 00:45:32.610 i'm offering something to them but they are offering 00:45:32.610 --> 00:45:35.469 something back to me i am just half of the yin 00:45:35.469 --> 00:45:37.789 yang symbol floating out there in a nothingness 00:45:37.789 --> 00:45:42.170 until i get my other half and or you know my 00:45:42.170 --> 00:45:45.030 other third in the case two -thirds in the case 00:45:45.030 --> 00:45:47.829 of like the triangle with a couple but what we 00:45:47.829 --> 00:45:50.889 create together is far greater than anything 00:45:50.889 --> 00:45:53.630 i could have created on my own there's no way 00:45:53.630 --> 00:45:58.510 that i could get so I had a ceremony I did once 00:45:58.510 --> 00:46:02.530 with a couple that's close to me. And I had my 00:46:02.530 --> 00:46:06.610 cuckler, my cuck butler, he set up this space. 00:46:06.789 --> 00:46:12.610 I rented out a dungeon here in LA. And we put 00:46:12.610 --> 00:46:14.710 Matt at the beginning of the ceremony just to 00:46:14.710 --> 00:46:19.429 kind of have the candles, have some incense to 00:46:19.429 --> 00:46:23.010 take in the space. I had this music that I like 00:46:23.010 --> 00:46:25.380 to use that's very tribal. You could pick whatever 00:46:25.380 --> 00:46:27.820 you like that speaks to you. And we were able 00:46:27.820 --> 00:46:30.980 to create, like, before there was anything sexual, 00:46:31.139 --> 00:46:34.400 we were able to just create this literal triangle 00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.079 between the three of us. And then as it went 00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:41.079 on, we amplified it more and more. And that evening 00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:47.460 ended with her, the wife, completely naked, covered 00:46:47.460 --> 00:46:51.320 in runes that I painted on her with my fingers 00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:56.650 and symbols. that energized the fuck out of her. 00:46:57.130 --> 00:47:00.789 And she didn't even necessarily know what every 00:47:00.789 --> 00:47:05.070 symbol meant, but she felt it. And that night 00:47:05.070 --> 00:47:09.670 was transformative for all of us. And I didn't 00:47:09.670 --> 00:47:12.170 fully know exactly what I was doing at that time. 00:47:12.389 --> 00:47:15.789 I was doing baby steps, but that leap forward 00:47:15.789 --> 00:47:18.170 with the intention when I was in sync with that 00:47:18.170 --> 00:47:21.789 couple, that was another step forward. where 00:47:21.789 --> 00:47:23.989 I was like this is a real thing and I want to 00:47:23.989 --> 00:47:26.070 learn more about it because I'm able to bring 00:47:26.070 --> 00:47:29.550 things to other people as well as myself so that's 00:47:29.550 --> 00:47:32.590 another example Socrates of like how I'm able 00:47:32.590 --> 00:47:35.610 to influence them but I want to stress their 00:47:35.610 --> 00:47:39.570 influence feedback well I'm very fascinated but 00:47:39.570 --> 00:47:41.469 with this but you know what we are coming up 00:47:41.469 --> 00:47:46.050 on time so one I would love to you to just maybe 00:47:46.050 --> 00:47:49.190 kind of give us a closing statement on what you 00:47:49.190 --> 00:47:53.250 feel about it and you know, where people can 00:47:53.250 --> 00:47:55.889 get more information about it. And then I'd love 00:47:55.889 --> 00:47:57.610 for you to come back and give us a part two, 00:47:57.710 --> 00:47:59.889 man, because there's so many other things I want 00:47:59.889 --> 00:48:02.690 to dive into with this. It would also be cool 00:48:02.690 --> 00:48:05.309 if there was some sort of kind of like beginner, 00:48:05.510 --> 00:48:09.710 you know, three -step process or something to 00:48:09.710 --> 00:48:12.210 kind of just introducing yourself that was super 00:48:12.210 --> 00:48:14.329 simple for people like me that this was like, 00:48:14.449 --> 00:48:17.289 wow, that sounds fascinating, but I couldn't 00:48:17.289 --> 00:48:20.909 absorb. all of it right so just something sure 00:48:20.909 --> 00:48:22.829 a little more simplistic that we can put in the 00:48:22.829 --> 00:48:25.070 show notes even i mean you could list it now 00:48:25.070 --> 00:48:26.710 or we could you could send it to us and we could 00:48:26.710 --> 00:48:28.289 put it in the show notes then that would just 00:48:28.289 --> 00:48:31.289 i think would be helpful too but we really appreciate 00:48:31.289 --> 00:48:33.929 you being yeah absolutely in fact that might 00:48:33.929 --> 00:48:36.210 be something better for me to like send you to 00:48:36.210 --> 00:48:39.110 put in the show notes absolutely so since we're 00:48:39.110 --> 00:48:41.650 since we're up on the hour now but absolutely 00:48:41.650 --> 00:48:45.449 and and it's these are things that um you know 00:48:45.449 --> 00:48:47.750 what's great is it's readily available siren 00:48:47.750 --> 00:48:52.030 for people if you if you look up sex magic for 00:48:52.030 --> 00:48:54.409 instance on youtube there's going to be a ton 00:48:54.409 --> 00:48:56.869 of information from people you can pick whatever 00:48:56.869 --> 00:49:00.610 style you like whatever person you like and they're 00:49:00.610 --> 00:49:02.710 going to give you a lot of those tools that you 00:49:02.710 --> 00:49:05.469 can start out with what i would just say really 00:49:05.469 --> 00:49:09.389 quickly though is creating an intention around 00:49:09.389 --> 00:49:12.150 something because what we haven't talked about 00:49:12.150 --> 00:49:13.849 is the fact that sex magic can be used for anything 00:49:14.489 --> 00:49:18.889 I personally use it for sexual things. But people 00:49:18.889 --> 00:49:22.610 use sex magic for everything that they want to 00:49:22.610 --> 00:49:25.269 give attention to in the manifest. From career 00:49:25.269 --> 00:49:29.989 goals to health to money, they're harnessing 00:49:29.989 --> 00:49:32.829 the power of sex for that. That's not my wheelhouse. 00:49:33.090 --> 00:49:37.989 I use it kind of for sexual amplification. I'm 00:49:37.989 --> 00:49:40.550 not trying to, like, figure out my financial 00:49:40.550 --> 00:49:43.679 gain through it. But that is a thing. so whatever 00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:46.519 your intention is that's what i'm focusing on 00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:50.519 that yeah so whatever your intention is focusing 00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:55.119 on that choosing a partner who is receptive i 00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:56.920 don't want to give any rules as you can tell 00:49:56.920 --> 00:50:00.980 but i would dare say choosing someone who you 00:50:00.980 --> 00:50:04.559 align with who is on the same page as you who 00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:07.480 resonates with you as opposed to just a one -night 00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:10.840 stand is obviously going to give you better results 00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:13.570 right Because you want to have that flow of energy 00:50:13.570 --> 00:50:18.389 back and forth, circular. Absolutely. So, yeah, 00:50:18.510 --> 00:50:23.110 absolutely. So intention, partner, or no partner, 00:50:23.190 --> 00:50:24.969 by the way. I want to stress, you do not have 00:50:24.969 --> 00:50:27.230 to have a partner for this. But I have found 00:50:27.230 --> 00:50:30.269 that that obviously amplifies it. And then choosing 00:50:30.269 --> 00:50:33.010 your pathway. I talked about some of the avenues 00:50:33.010 --> 00:50:37.510 from interracial, the power of that. do the triangles 00:50:37.510 --> 00:50:40.690 it could be this you know um certain signals 00:50:40.690 --> 00:50:43.449 it could be things from you know your ancestral 00:50:43.449 --> 00:50:47.929 past if you are of african ancestry if you're 00:50:47.929 --> 00:50:50.409 you know from ireland there might be a celtic 00:50:50.409 --> 00:50:52.989 thing that speaks to you it could be a family 00:50:52.989 --> 00:50:56.610 thing whatever that is totems i was at an event 00:50:56.610 --> 00:50:59.909 the other day a couple weeks ago and i was having 00:50:59.909 --> 00:51:03.809 a really amazing session with a wife and the 00:51:03.809 --> 00:51:06.889 husband was kind of over in the cup chair And 00:51:06.889 --> 00:51:10.730 I looked down and he had a talisman in his hand 00:51:10.730 --> 00:51:12.949 that he had gotten when they were traveling in 00:51:12.949 --> 00:51:15.469 another country. And it was like a little fetish 00:51:15.469 --> 00:51:18.469 idol with the big breasts and the big hips and 00:51:18.469 --> 00:51:20.369 everything, you know, that we've seen in like 00:51:20.369 --> 00:51:23.590 all those ancient cultures have. And he was over 00:51:23.590 --> 00:51:27.550 there like holding it and stroking it while he 00:51:27.550 --> 00:51:29.769 was watching his wife get fucked. And I didn't 00:51:29.769 --> 00:51:32.119 even know he had that. I didn't know that they 00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:34.199 were like that about this, but I was like, oh, 00:51:34.380 --> 00:51:36.900 we're going to go places with this couple because 00:51:36.900 --> 00:51:40.159 we're all on the same page. So there's these 00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:42.179 things that you can have, even if it's a totem 00:51:42.179 --> 00:51:44.900 or something that's powerful to you and just 00:51:44.900 --> 00:51:47.659 focusing your intention. And while you're having 00:51:47.659 --> 00:51:51.460 sex, harnessing your energy and then focusing 00:51:51.460 --> 00:51:53.860 on that thing that you want, whatever that want 00:51:53.860 --> 00:51:56.519 is. That's the very basic thing I'll say to answer 00:51:56.519 --> 00:51:58.559 you, Siren. And that can actually just be my 00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:02.519 closing thing, Socrates. It's just my only thing 00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:06.059 I would say is as much as you can, if there's 00:52:06.059 --> 00:52:08.380 anything that's getting in your way of saying 00:52:08.380 --> 00:52:12.539 that this isn't something for you, that's fine 00:52:12.539 --> 00:52:15.320 for something not to be something for you. But 00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:18.420 take a moment to question why. You know, why 00:52:18.420 --> 00:52:20.800 are you skeptical about it? Why don't you believe 00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:23.500 it? What I found for me personally is the reasons 00:52:23.500 --> 00:52:26.460 why I weren't good enough. It was my programming. 00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:29.119 it was a lot of things that i don't even necessarily 00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:32.500 agree with anymore bleeding over into this and 00:52:32.500 --> 00:52:35.360 making me go yeah i don't know about that once 00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:39.760 i let go of that a whole gateway and i mean literally 00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:43.699 a gateway to another universe has opened up for 00:52:43.699 --> 00:52:47.280 me so i wish that for everyone within the sound 00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:51.239 of our voices if they're able to come into something 00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:55.039 that's going to open just an abundance of riches 00:52:56.010 --> 00:53:01.130 And otherwise, maybe give this a try and find 00:53:01.130 --> 00:53:03.969 whatever avenue works for you and just build 00:53:03.969 --> 00:53:07.929 on it. And I guarantee you're going to find a 00:53:07.929 --> 00:53:11.989 beautiful new arena that you never saw before 00:53:11.989 --> 00:53:14.610 because your antenna are going to start to grow 00:53:14.610 --> 00:53:17.349 and you're going to start picking up those sex 00:53:17.349 --> 00:53:21.130 magic frequencies. I love it. Dope, dope, dope. 00:53:21.269 --> 00:53:27.920 Take it away. Good deal, man. I learned a lot 00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:31.340 tonight. I really did. Sex magic is something 00:53:31.340 --> 00:53:33.780 that I might have to dive into in the very near 00:53:33.780 --> 00:53:38.280 future. Again, ladies and gentlemen, give it 00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:42.159 up for Pagan. And he has really, really taught 00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:44.820 me a lot tonight. And I hope he comes back for 00:53:44.820 --> 00:53:50.300 part two of the topic of sex magic. For Socrates, 00:53:50.619 --> 00:53:55.440 Siren, myself, as well as Pagan, Until we meet 00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:58.500 again, ladies and gentlemen, as usual, from the 00:53:58.500 --> 00:54:00.380 Bull Brotherhood to all the brothers out there, 00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:04.420 I bid you guys goodnight. To all my hot wives 00:54:04.420 --> 00:54:08.159 and sexy singles ladies out there, good morning. 00:54:08.739 --> 00:54:12.400 I'm the Sigma Male, Brian Morgan. Until we meet 00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:16.519 again, I'll be to say cheers, bye -bye, goodnight.