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I want them to experience me. I want them to

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experience the way I do it. I was scoping out

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the guys who I knew that were the professionals,

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in other words. It was very, very easy to pick

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out Mocha and Dimitri. They stood out. They had

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that aura, you know. And I knew that I wasn't

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going to, like, approach them to talk to them

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or anything like that. This podcast contains

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explicit adult content, mature themes, and candid

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conversations about sex, dominance, power exchange,

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and ethical non -monogamy. It is intended for

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audiences 18 and over only. Listener discretion

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be interpreted as legal advice, medical guidance,

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or psychological counseling. We speak from experience,

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not credentials. Always practice consent, respect

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the boundaries of others, and follow local laws.

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If you're not comfortable with Frank talk about

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sex, kink, dominance, or emotional power, this

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probably isn't the show for you. But if you're

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ready to step into your masculine edge and embrace

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a lifestyle that demands mastery, welcome to

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the Brotherhood. Welcome to the Bull Brotherhood

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podcast, where we talk power, pleasure, and the

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art of dominance in ethical non -monogamy. This

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is not your average lifestyle podcast. This is

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for men who lead. men who master, and men who

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leave a lasting impression. If you're here, you're

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not just curious. You're ready to elevate. So

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to all the bulls, hot wives, stags, and open

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-minded explorers, we see you. Let's go. Ladies

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and gentlemen, good evening and welcome to another

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exhilarating episode of the Bullet Brotherhood

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podcast. I'm Brian Morgan, a .k .a. the Sigma

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Male, the lone wolf himself, coming at you with

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my nephew, the perpetual student, Socrates. What's

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up, dawg? What's up, y 'all? All right. And ladies

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and gentlemen, tonight, we welcome back from

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the O -Faces podcast. the executive director,

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the CEO himself. I call him Doc Gable. Everybody

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else knows him as Mr. Mocha. What's up, baby

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boy? What's going on, guys? I appreciate the

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invite as always. How's it going, fellas? Wonderful

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here, baby. Wonderful. And again, thank you for

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cutting into your quality time and coming to

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help us out. I guess with a, for Socrates, a

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question tonight or how you want a question.

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All right, ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to

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turn it over to Socrates. He's going to be our

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moderator tonight with this. Mr. Mocha and I,

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we're going to be answering questions together

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as one, as well as from a alpha bull's point

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of view and a sigma male's point of view. All

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right. So here, take it over nephew. Yes, sir.

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Yes, sir. It was good, y 'all. What's going on?

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All right, all right. Nothing much, man. Yeah,

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yeah. So this is really, you know, for those

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that don't know, man, you know, these are my

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boys, you know. These are my counsel. You know,

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these are my war counsel gentlemen that I talk

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to, strategize approaches from business to how

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to interact with these beautiful ladies that

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we get to interact with in this lifestyle. And

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so. I was listening to another podcast, and they

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were presenting the things that they do and the

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thought process and the process that they go

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through to give a couple a really good experience.

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And I was vibing off it. I was like, yeah, I

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like that idea. I like this idea. But something

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hit me. Something was like a voice in my head.

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And I was like, I don't know if it's Brian's

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in the back of my head. Or Mr. Mocha's in the

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back of my head. But it was like, that's too

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much work. It was like, hey, man, you run some

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businesses. You travel, bro. Like, I don't know

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if you can do all that. And I was thinking, you

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know what? I don't know what my boys would say

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about that. Not that what the person was saying

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was wrong, because I admire that podcast and

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what they were saying. It was more of like, well,

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what fits the approach that the Boy Brotherhood

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has? And so I called my boy, Unk, up. He was

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busy at the time, so I called Mr. Mocha, and

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we started discussing the difference between

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their approach and Mr. Mocha's approach. And

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I said, what'd I say? I said, I think you do

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it a little differently, don't you? And that's

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where you broke it down. So did you want to...

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Kind of explain. Well, I think you got to first,

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you got to set that, you got to, what's the other

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approach? Exactly. Because they don't have a

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point of reference. Right, right. So what it

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was is their basic, we talked about it for a

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bit. We talked about having tools in your toolbox.

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And we always encourage everybody, have tools

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in your toolbox. Learn how to read people's body

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language. Learn how to read the room. Learn how

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to interact. Wash your ass. All those kind of

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things. But the paradigm that we were saying

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is, and what Mr. Mocha was saying is, that bull

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who's putting that effort in and a lot of the

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challenges that I was having was about, my mentality

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is, I'm trying to get on their program. I got

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a couple, they have whatever program they got

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going on, and I'm trying to get in where I feed

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in. And that's a lot of work. And Mr. Mocha said,

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well, I have a little different one. I'm trying

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to see. What do I need to do or what do I need

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to present or how do I need to present this to

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where they feel comfortable and they feel like

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I'm trustworthy enough for them to get on mine?

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So that's the subject we're going to talk about

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is the program, right? And it blew my mind. It

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blew my mind. I was like, oh, my goodness, that's

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it. Everywhere I felt like I was having consistent

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challenges or putting a whole lot of energy for.

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shaky or unreliable or not the same kind of energy

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back, I realize I'll spend my whole time trying

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to get qualified for their program as opposed

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to having an actual program that's really concise

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for me and saying, well, what do I got to get

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to do to help them understand that we're going

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to have a great time if you get on my program?

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Am I explaining that right, Mr. Mogul? So I think

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that when you call me, you're basically saying

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that because I don't think everybody understands

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the concept of programs and things like that.

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So when he called me, he was saying that he had

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listened to something or podcast, and they were

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talking about having different approaches and

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different ways to approach different types of

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couples within the lifestyle. Because, you know,

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in the hot wife community, in the cuckold community

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in particular, you know, that there are, it's

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not one set type of couple. It's not one set

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type of dynamic. But as a guy, you know, we're

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dudes. So we're not, it's rare that we're only

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looking for one particular type of couple. We

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may have one. or two dynamics that we prefer.

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But oftentimes, you know, if you walk into a

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room with 100 couples, you have 100 different

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dynamics. So when he called me, when you called

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me, you're saying that based upon the information

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you heard, they refer to different approaches

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and different tactics and techniques as tools.

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And having a lot of tools in your tool bag so

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that you can adapt to the couples that you want

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to play with. Exactly. So I'm not sure if I should

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make the analogy that I made before. We'll send

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all the email complaints to you. Go for it. Go

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for it. You are on the Bull Brotherhood podcast,

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my brother. All right. I'm expecting you to be

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you, okay? Okay. Remember, you got to expand.

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Yes, exactly. All right. So, ladies and gentlemen,

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any ass -shoers that you want to throw out, okay?

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My ass is narrow, but I can take every last one

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of them. I can take every last one of them. I

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take every last one of them. I took enough for

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24 years in the United States military. Hell,

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I can take some more, okay? So I want to know.

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This is who we are. So, Mocha, take it. All right?

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Go with it. All right. So I said my analogy was

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you have two different vehicles. I'm not trying

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to get into their vehicle. What I'm trying to

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do is lure them into my, my kidnapper. I just

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need to lure you into my van because I am not,

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I want to be adaptable in conversation and fluid

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and interaction, but I want them to experience

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me. I want them to experience the way I do it.

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We have these conversations on a regular basis.

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There's levels to this. There's levels to the

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type of, you know, couple you meet. There's levels

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to the type of woman or male or whatever you

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like to interact with. There's levels to it.

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There is that level where it's like, okay, I

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had, and then we're going to start at the, I

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had an okay time. Yeah, I met this person, this

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couple, and it was cool. And then the far extreme

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is, oh, my God, I met this couple or this woman

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or this guy who completely exceeded my expectations.

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And I want this type of experience. And there's

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everything in between. So for me personally,

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I want anyone who I'm going to interact with,

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if it's a couple or a single female. I want you

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to experience what I bring. I want to be able

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to speak to you on your level so that I can now

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pull you into my world and I can give you the

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Mr. Mocha experience. I don't want to give you

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the, you know, the other guy's experience. You

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know, and I think oftentimes as guys, as a guy

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in a lifestyle, A lot of guys, in my opinion,

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go wrong because they're talking to a couple

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and they're trying to figure out how to duplicate

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an experience that they had with some other guy.

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Oh, we met this guy and he was this and he was

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that. And so now you're doing what you think

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they want you to do. I can't be the stigma male.

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No matter how much I would want to be or no matter

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how much I admire his style, if I try to do what

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the Sigma male does, I can at best be second

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best at that. Now, I can be number one at being

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Mr. Mocha. I can be number one at providing the

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experience that is me being my genuine self.

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That was my thing. I am not trying to mold myself

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to their experience. I am trying to provide them

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my experience. You know, there's a hundred different

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flavors of soda. There's a hundred different

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desserts. So if I'm chocolate, I'm not trying

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to taste like vanilla. I can only be chocolate.

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That's all I can be. And so for me, when I started

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thinking about people saying, I'm trying to mold

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myself to them. Now you're polluting who you

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are. So that's what I mean when I say I'm not

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trying to have tools that would make me moldable

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to their situation. I just want the introduction

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and to be fluid enough to make them want to experience

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what I have to offer. Outstanding. You are molding

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the communication, the interaction at that stage

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when they're trying to figure out if this is

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something they want to do and you're trying to

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figure out if this is the couple you want to

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interact with. Those are where your tools lie.

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But once, like you said, you got them kidnapped

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in the van. No. It's not so much molding. This

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is another place, the common misconception that

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a lot of people have within the lifestyle. All

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right. It's basic human interaction. Okay. I

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am going to talk to you like I would talk to

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anyone. And if our personalities click, if we

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have that chemistry, all those things are necessary.

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And it's interaction. It's relationship. The

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shit part is something that we have. You have

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a friendship. You have a relationship. You know,

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that thing. that we create with all other people

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that we want to talk to. If you go to an amusement

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park, if you go to play a basketball game, you're

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going to have an interaction with somebody, and

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that person is going to have an opportunity to

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see if they like you or not. This is just a different

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aspect of life, and it's just a different social

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setting. So it's not so much me trying to trick

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a person. Me speaking to you and seeing how the

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energy is. And I'm just going to be me. And I

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know me being me, I'm off -putting to some people.

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So if I'm off -putting to that person, then they're

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not the person that should be trying to get into

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my van. And if that person, if I don't feel that

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chemistry or that energy that I like, it's not

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going to work out either. In the beginning, my

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main tool is just being me and seeing if you

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like me. And then once we get into the bedroom,

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we're going to, you know, do our regular talking

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and communicating. And then I'm going to have

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an opportunity to be me. And that's all I can

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be because I've said before, when I get into

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a situation and I have somebody who's trying

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to, you know, direct my movements, hey, fuck

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my wife like this, fuck her like that. Hey, hey,

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man, you want to do this? She's here for what

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I do. I'm not trying to mimic your dick. If she

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wants a mimic of your dick, if she wants a mimic

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of your style, then you should be doing this

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and I should go and deal with someone who wants

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to experience me. So everything comes back to

00:16:46.860 --> 00:16:54.299
we're trying to experience each other. I love

00:16:54.299 --> 00:16:56.299
having sex with my wife. I have sex with my wife

00:16:56.299 --> 00:16:59.840
as often as possible. But when I go play with

00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:01.639
somebody else, I'm not looking for somebody who

00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:04.559
fucks just like my wife. Otherwise, I might as

00:17:04.559 --> 00:17:07.099
well just keep fucking my wife. You're looking

00:17:07.099 --> 00:17:14.720
for something different. Yeah. I like that. Nephew.

00:17:15.779 --> 00:17:20.819
Yes, sir. Nephew, let me say this. I agree with

00:17:20.819 --> 00:17:24.460
everything. I love listening to Mocha talk because,

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I mean, hell, I end up almost getting mesmerized

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by this shit because it's so fucking true. But

00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:39.319
I look at this as like, and I say we're, when

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we're dealing with a couple, I look at it as

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like the art of seduction. You know, we're being

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ourselves. with being our our true selves but

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at the same time though i know myself i'm i'm

00:17:54.519 --> 00:17:59.579
i'm i'm seducing like a i'm i'm using a seduction

00:17:59.579 --> 00:18:03.440
technique uh you know to find out what this couple's

00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.359
all about you know i look at it like um let me

00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:09.619
see what can i equate it to like being a dancer

00:18:09.619 --> 00:18:13.059
giving a performance you know i mean that involves

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what of course with the couple first and foremost

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Respect, then what? Emotional intelligence, then

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what? Shared fantasies, right? You find out everything

00:18:26.900 --> 00:18:30.480
that there is about the couple. Correct? Yep.

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Okay. Always doing what? You're respecting the

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sanctity of the couple's relationship. You know

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what I mean? I'm being a great listener. I want

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to hear, I want to know everything there is.

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about you guys. So I'm listening to every damn

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thing, everything. And I'm showing what I'm showing

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a genuine interest at all times as to what that

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I'm, you know, hearing. And then from there,

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then from there, I start throwing that, that

00:19:02.529 --> 00:19:05.470
technique in there, that seduction technique.

00:19:05.710 --> 00:19:08.210
All right. First of all, going into the thing,

00:19:08.349 --> 00:19:11.210
what am I? I'm confident. I'm sure of myself.

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I'm sure of my desires. And I'm, I'm, I'm sure

00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:18.400
of my value. I think that's something that, that

00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:21.220
most bulls don't go into the situation doing

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and, and correct me if I'm wrong, but knowing

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your, your value, knowing your value as that,

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as that, as that, you know, as that guy that's

00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:34.279
going to eventually take over the situation.

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Right. Absolutely. Here again, like I said, being

00:19:37.240 --> 00:19:41.079
sure of yourself, your desires, and also show

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a couple. At least I do. I show a couple of a

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little sensitive side of me where I'm getting

00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:49.799
to know him. You know, I want to know. Hell,

00:19:49.880 --> 00:19:51.720
I want to know the Sigma male, but I also want

00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:54.660
to know Brian Morgan, the man. You know what

00:19:54.660 --> 00:19:56.700
I mean? So I may even share some I may share

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some some I call it human stuff with them, you

00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:05.200
know, on the sensitive side. And then from there,

00:20:05.240 --> 00:20:09.019
as they get comfortable with me, not only her,

00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:11.359
but him, because it's got to be a two way street.

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Then we move forward. We move forward in the

00:20:15.549 --> 00:20:18.410
seduction process. So that's to me is like step,

00:20:18.450 --> 00:20:21.630
that's step eight in that seduction technique.

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Do you understand where I'm coming from? Yep.

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One of the most important factors that people

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leave out is chemistry. When you meet someone,

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and especially when I'm in that setting, I mean,

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yes, I am. I'm definitely. I'm being myself,

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but I am flirting. I am attempting to have sex

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with you. So, no, like my behavior, you know,

00:20:48.109 --> 00:20:49.950
if you ask my opinion, it's going to be the same.

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But I may not I'm not going to just kick in the

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door and walk in the room and start spouting

00:20:55.390 --> 00:20:57.609
out my opinions when we're doing a show. It's

00:20:57.609 --> 00:21:00.509
my job to speak of my opinions. But in person,

00:21:00.650 --> 00:21:03.029
you know, I am going to be polite. I am going

00:21:03.029 --> 00:21:05.789
to try to be charming. I am going to to be flirty,

00:21:05.849 --> 00:21:09.150
but I'm still going to be me. And the concept

00:21:09.150 --> 00:21:12.410
of chemistry is something that is the most important

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thing in all of these talks. Whenever we're talking

00:21:15.869 --> 00:21:24.670
about interacting with a couple, chemistry is

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the main thing because two guys can walk up and

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do the same thing, say the same thing, wear the

00:21:35.549 --> 00:21:39.019
same thing. And look the same way and get completely

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different responses. Because chemistry is a big

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deal. In fact, one of my, the thing I say all

00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:52.519
the time is the exact same thing that one guy

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can do. When another dude does it, he's creepy.

00:21:57.819 --> 00:22:01.039
Okay. When one guy does it, he's sexy. When the

00:22:01.039 --> 00:22:03.619
other guy does it, he's creepy. And that was

00:22:03.619 --> 00:22:07.529
a lack of some sort of chemistry. So chemistry

00:22:07.529 --> 00:22:12.710
is also a big thing. And sometimes, I mean, because

00:22:12.710 --> 00:22:15.150
you've been in a situation where you're with

00:22:15.150 --> 00:22:18.930
someone who's extremely physically attractive

00:22:18.930 --> 00:22:22.410
to you from across the room. Wow, she is gorgeous.

00:22:22.789 --> 00:22:25.950
But then when we interact, there's nothing wrong

00:22:25.950 --> 00:22:30.349
with her. She's not mean. She's nice. But there's

00:22:30.349 --> 00:22:34.630
no chemistry. And so, you know, in my rookie

00:22:34.630 --> 00:22:37.250
season, I would try to go and play with that

00:22:37.250 --> 00:22:40.210
woman anyways, and my dick be like, eh, I'm good.

00:22:40.609 --> 00:22:45.950
And now I'm having a, oh, you know. But, you

00:22:45.950 --> 00:22:48.690
know, that's not, like I said, there's nothing

00:22:48.690 --> 00:22:50.529
to say there was nothing wrong. It's just a lack

00:22:50.529 --> 00:22:55.230
of chemistry. Or you see a woman who I don't

00:22:55.230 --> 00:22:58.309
particularly find her attractive. But then we

00:22:58.309 --> 00:23:01.289
start talking and interacting and my dick is

00:23:01.289 --> 00:23:04.569
tapping on my leg like, hey, this one, choose

00:23:04.569 --> 00:23:08.750
this one. And then we have a phenomenal time

00:23:08.750 --> 00:23:10.950
and I want to play with her over and over again.

00:23:11.289 --> 00:23:18.390
You know, so chemistry to me is huge. And I know

00:23:18.390 --> 00:23:20.930
a lot of couples get afraid of the word chemistry

00:23:20.930 --> 00:23:23.569
because they think, I mean, you know, I'm trying

00:23:23.569 --> 00:23:26.990
to fall in love with. No. Chemistry is not necessarily

00:23:26.990 --> 00:23:31.450
just a sexual thing. It's not just a opposite

00:23:31.450 --> 00:23:36.329
sex thing. Chemistry is something that works

00:23:36.329 --> 00:23:41.150
everywhere. Chemistry plays a huge role in this

00:23:41.150 --> 00:23:46.769
thing as well as learning how to interact because

00:23:46.769 --> 00:23:51.130
with it or without it, to me, it's one of the

00:23:51.130 --> 00:23:58.279
things that is the great divider. in being a

00:23:58.279 --> 00:24:04.799
good bull or not. Let me say this, Mocha. You

00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:09.619
can have physical chemistry. You can have physical

00:24:09.619 --> 00:24:12.740
chemistry but not have a damn thing in common

00:24:12.740 --> 00:24:17.680
when it comes to the communication or, you know

00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:19.920
what I mean, getting the emotional intelligence

00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:24.970
there. I've had some hellified encounters. where

00:24:24.970 --> 00:24:28.089
it was just they were physically attracted to

00:24:28.089 --> 00:24:31.769
me. I was physically attracted to them. We really

00:24:31.769 --> 00:24:34.509
didn't even, other than knowing each other's

00:24:34.509 --> 00:24:38.869
names, it was fuck city after that. And it was

00:24:38.869 --> 00:24:42.130
great. Physical chemistry. Yeah, that physical

00:24:42.130 --> 00:24:46.250
chemistry. But try to meet them again and, you

00:24:46.250 --> 00:24:48.890
know, go out to dinner or just come over, you

00:24:48.890 --> 00:24:50.650
know, to the crib and chill and get to know each

00:24:50.650 --> 00:24:54.119
other. I found I was like, damn, we. And I had

00:24:54.119 --> 00:24:56.079
one that we just literally laughed at each other.

00:24:56.319 --> 00:24:59.039
Like, we do not have anything in common other

00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:03.099
than dick and pussy. That was it. That was it,

00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:05.619
you know? And, yeah, the sexual chemistry can

00:25:05.619 --> 00:25:10.819
happen. Now, the emotional or, you know, that,

00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:14.960
if it's not there, it ain't going to happen.

00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:17.599
You know what I'm saying? You can't make that

00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:20.359
happen. You cannot, in my opinion. At least you

00:25:20.359 --> 00:25:22.819
know with me. You can't make that happen. Um,

00:25:23.099 --> 00:25:27.519
and I, I do agree. Um, when I meet a couple,

00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:32.140
I will know in a very short period of time, uh,

00:25:32.339 --> 00:25:34.799
if there will be some, you know, some chemistry

00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:38.240
there. And I'm not looking for, I know when I

00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:41.700
meet them, whether I'm physically attracted to

00:25:41.700 --> 00:25:44.380
them, you know, to, to the wife. I know that

00:25:44.380 --> 00:25:46.299
immediately. And I know if she likes what she

00:25:46.299 --> 00:25:48.859
sees immediately, you know, from those little

00:25:48.859 --> 00:25:52.829
nonverbal cues that I'm getting from her. Um,

00:25:53.109 --> 00:25:56.250
or she will look at him in a certain way. And

00:25:56.250 --> 00:25:58.369
I know, okay, that's that look. She likes what

00:25:58.369 --> 00:26:00.210
she sees and, you know, we're going to start

00:26:00.210 --> 00:26:03.690
talking. But like I said, if there's, if there's

00:26:03.690 --> 00:26:06.329
nothing there, if we don't have anything, you

00:26:06.329 --> 00:26:08.970
know, and I'm trying and they're trying, but

00:26:08.970 --> 00:26:12.130
we're just like, this ain't working, you know,

00:26:12.170 --> 00:26:16.410
this isn't working. So that's what, um, and I

00:26:16.410 --> 00:26:20.500
think a lot of, a lot of, uh, young bulls and

00:26:20.500 --> 00:26:22.380
and even you know some seasoned guys sometimes

00:26:22.380 --> 00:26:25.859
how they see is the physical and you know i want

00:26:25.859 --> 00:26:29.180
this i want this i want this and maybe maybe

00:26:29.180 --> 00:26:32.579
it does get to the bedroom but i guarantee you

00:26:32.579 --> 00:26:35.400
damn dickhanger isn't gonna isn't gonna respond

00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:38.519
the way you want you want it to it's nothing

00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:42.779
like and i i can say it i can say it and it's

00:26:42.779 --> 00:26:44.640
happened to me and a whole bunch of shit has

00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:46.619
happened to me before my dick didn't respond

00:26:46.619 --> 00:26:52.140
so you know Chemistry is everything. It's everything.

00:26:52.940 --> 00:26:58.559
Yep. So going back to kind of why we were talking

00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:01.819
about this, it's about so you have your own,

00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:06.099
you have a program or things that you want them

00:27:06.099 --> 00:27:11.440
to get on. But talk to me, and I'll ask Mr. Mocha

00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:14.859
too, but talk to me about what you see when people

00:27:14.859 --> 00:27:16.480
like, even I'm just going to say I was the guy

00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:20.029
before. I was the guy that was like, I'm trying

00:27:20.029 --> 00:27:22.930
to figure out how to get on their program. So

00:27:22.930 --> 00:27:25.869
talk to me from the outside looking in. What

00:27:25.869 --> 00:27:29.490
do you see that kind of like slows people down

00:27:29.490 --> 00:27:32.250
or makes it harder on them because they have

00:27:32.250 --> 00:27:36.309
that paradigm of how do I qualify for them? Because

00:27:36.309 --> 00:27:38.609
I know Mr. Mocha is talking about being something

00:27:38.609 --> 00:27:42.930
you're not. But as far as me, I didn't go in

00:27:42.930 --> 00:27:45.759
there saying I'm going to. try to mold myself.

00:27:45.940 --> 00:27:48.339
You end up thinking you have to, or you end up

00:27:48.339 --> 00:27:50.839
kind of there, but you don't plan to be there.

00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:53.279
You don't plan to be inauthentic or be somebody

00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.140
you're not. You're just thinking, I like this.

00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:59.579
The wife's hot, right? The couple has all these

00:27:59.579 --> 00:28:02.500
requests or things they want. Let me see if I

00:28:02.500 --> 00:28:04.299
can do it to get there. So like, what are you

00:28:04.299 --> 00:28:07.079
guys seeing on that end? Some of the problems,

00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:10.200
some of the things that takes longer, some of

00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:15.009
the things that are frustrating. I think most

00:28:15.009 --> 00:28:16.890
Bulls here, again, they don't know their value.

00:28:17.849 --> 00:28:21.609
You know? Do you agree with that, Mocha? They

00:28:21.609 --> 00:28:27.890
don't know their value, their worth. I think

00:28:27.890 --> 00:28:31.390
a lot of guys here, again, and it's actually

00:28:31.390 --> 00:28:36.569
a compliment to you, Mocha, to guys like yourself,

00:28:36.890 --> 00:28:42.680
you know, my other Bull brothers. I think they

00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:47.279
look at you and you set the bar so high. And

00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:49.119
I'm talking about guys that go to the events

00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:51.359
and stuff, you know what I mean? And I know guys

00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:54.079
do this shit because when I first went to Atlanta,

00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:57.619
I was scoping out the guys who I knew that were

00:28:57.619 --> 00:29:02.059
the professionals, in other words. It was very,

00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:06.420
very easy to pick out Mocha and Dimitri. They

00:29:06.420 --> 00:29:11.119
stood out. They had that aura, you know? I knew

00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:14.519
that I wasn't going to, like, approach them to

00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:16.299
talk to them or anything like that. But I was

00:29:16.299 --> 00:29:19.619
just kind of seeing how they maneuvered around,

00:29:19.940 --> 00:29:24.920
you know, the AO. And I think these guys, here

00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:26.859
again, they don't know. They don't know. They

00:29:26.859 --> 00:29:29.140
don't know their own value. They don't know how

00:29:29.140 --> 00:29:36.099
to sit down and this has nothing to do to, you

00:29:36.099 --> 00:29:38.859
know, be whether you're a Sigma bull or you're

00:29:38.859 --> 00:29:43.200
an Alpha bull. you know, Omega or whatever. You

00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:46.000
just don't know your worth. You don't know your

00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:50.200
worth. You don't know that you are the king of

00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:53.420
kings. You know, your confidence level isn't

00:29:53.420 --> 00:29:56.420
there. It's like guys who play basketball, okay?

00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:03.200
When I played, although I was a skinny guy, you

00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.220
couldn't tell me that I wasn't the original Stephen

00:30:06.220 --> 00:30:08.019
Curry out there shooting the basketball. You

00:30:08.019 --> 00:30:10.490
know what I mean? I knew my worth. I knew my

00:30:10.490 --> 00:30:13.150
worth. I knew I could shoot. I knew I was good

00:30:13.150 --> 00:30:16.589
at it. I didn't give a damn who I guarded out

00:30:16.589 --> 00:30:20.450
there on the court. I just knew my value, okay?

00:30:21.109 --> 00:30:27.029
A lot of bulls, here again, they see other guys

00:30:27.029 --> 00:30:31.769
doing certain things. Sometimes a guy, and here

00:30:31.769 --> 00:30:35.130
again, Mocha, I'm using you because of the physique

00:30:35.130 --> 00:30:37.730
that they see, you know what I mean, the look

00:30:37.730 --> 00:30:40.119
that you bring to the table. They get intimidated,

00:30:40.380 --> 00:30:43.200
you know, and they think, oh, well, I got to

00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:45.059
go out here now and start lifting all the weights

00:30:45.059 --> 00:30:48.059
and, you know, get my body this way. And don't

00:30:48.059 --> 00:30:49.880
get me wrong. Yes, you should have a body game.

00:30:49.960 --> 00:30:52.559
You should. But you should have your body game.

00:30:52.819 --> 00:30:55.559
That's here again as a part of your value. I

00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.960
know knowing what works for you. They see other

00:30:59.960 --> 00:31:01.579
guys doing they're like, you know, hey, I'm going

00:31:01.579 --> 00:31:04.460
to try to emulate what this guy does. Don't do

00:31:04.460 --> 00:31:06.720
that. You set yourself up for failure every time,

00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:12.109
because like Mr. Mocha said. What I do one way

00:31:12.109 --> 00:31:17.190
and it works for me. The other guy comes and

00:31:17.190 --> 00:31:20.670
tries that shit and he looks like a total butthole.

00:31:20.990 --> 00:31:23.809
You know, he looks like a fool. So I think the

00:31:23.809 --> 00:31:28.269
biggest thing is knowing your value. And here

00:31:28.269 --> 00:31:35.930
again, don't be afraid to get out there and talk

00:31:35.930 --> 00:31:38.720
to that beautiful. woman or beautiful couple

00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.680
if they shoot you down the first time okay i

00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:44.599
got shot down all right but then go back to the

00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:46.880
drawing board and say okay well what did i do

00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:49.400
wrong what do i think i did wrong you know how

00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:51.660
did i approach him was my approach was i too

00:31:51.660 --> 00:31:56.319
uh um not standoffish but was i too aggressive

00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:00.119
you know did i ask the right questions um look

00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:03.279
at yourself in the mirror was my look right etc

00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:07.579
etc you know Here again, know your value, get

00:32:07.579 --> 00:32:10.640
yourself straight first, and then go out there

00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:18.039
and tackle those couples. That's how I was laid.

00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:26.000
I think that one thing for guys and couples to

00:32:26.000 --> 00:32:29.319
understand in that comment, know your value.

00:32:31.500 --> 00:32:39.089
That is not... Arrogance. Because 15 years ago,

00:32:39.170 --> 00:32:50.250
my value was not the same. There's years of experience.

00:32:51.170 --> 00:32:53.930
There's years of mistakes. The mistakes that

00:32:53.930 --> 00:32:55.589
the guys are making out there, I've made those

00:32:55.589 --> 00:33:00.470
mistakes. Evolution. Yeah, I mean, I've learned.

00:33:02.380 --> 00:33:04.579
There's a lot of things that I tell guys when

00:33:04.579 --> 00:33:08.440
I'm talking to guys, don't do, don't accept.

00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:11.319
And a lot of those things are things that I learned

00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:15.299
because I accepted them 10 times. You know, there's

00:33:15.299 --> 00:33:19.160
a reason why I can talk about the husbands who

00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:20.740
are telling you, fuck her like this, fuck her

00:33:20.740 --> 00:33:23.519
like that. Because I've been that guy, and I'm

00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:25.019
like, well, you know something, I'm trying to

00:33:25.019 --> 00:33:27.759
be respectful, and the husband wants me to fuck

00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.279
her like this. And, you know, fuck her harder,

00:33:30.339 --> 00:33:32.920
fuck her harder. And now I'm listening to this

00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:36.160
guy and I'm looking at her face. And, you know,

00:33:36.180 --> 00:33:38.220
she put the gate up trying to push my hips back.

00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:40.900
And now I'm in this position where it's like,

00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:45.460
OK, I don't want to pile drive this lady. You

00:33:45.460 --> 00:33:47.740
know, and I've said it before. I got a guy with

00:33:47.740 --> 00:33:50.880
a five inch dick telling me to break her cervix.

00:33:50.900 --> 00:33:54.720
I'm not going to do that. But and I will wind

00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:57.680
up going soft. In the middle of a play date because

00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.039
I got the husband telling me to fuck her a certain

00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:03.220
way while I'm paying attention to her body and

00:34:03.220 --> 00:34:06.180
that's not what she wants. It took a long time

00:34:06.180 --> 00:34:10.500
for me to figure out how to deal with that. Okay,

00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:15.000
I've also been in the situation when I tell guys

00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:18.099
don't, you know, don't let the husband be this

00:34:18.099 --> 00:34:23.099
crazy camera guy. We have a conversation. I don't

00:34:23.099 --> 00:34:25.460
mind you recording when I play with your wife.

00:34:25.869 --> 00:34:27.869
And I don't mind you telling me up front, hey,

00:34:28.010 --> 00:34:31.070
I like to get a certain type of angles, you know.

00:34:31.090 --> 00:34:32.929
But in the beginning, I didn't know that. So

00:34:32.929 --> 00:34:35.550
I'm having sex, and the guy's like, hey, hey,

00:34:35.570 --> 00:34:37.929
well, okay, stop and put her doggie style. Wait,

00:34:37.949 --> 00:34:41.949
wait. Honey. Honey, ride him. Yeah, you got the

00:34:41.949 --> 00:34:46.670
point. And I'm sitting here like, okay, I don't

00:34:46.670 --> 00:34:51.000
have any rights as the guy because. I have been

00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:53.880
in that position where I had been convinced by

00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:58.260
the couples that as a guy, you know, what I,

00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.079
how I feel is irrelevant. It's all about the

00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:05.019
wife. It's all about the wife. No, there are

00:35:05.019 --> 00:35:08.219
three individuals here. And three individual

00:35:08.219 --> 00:35:14.800
goes into a mutual verbal contract to come in

00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:19.480
here and we all have a good time. Okay. But for

00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:24.960
years, I didn't know that I had an opinion. And

00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:29.179
so oftentimes, I'd have couples asking, oh, why

00:35:29.179 --> 00:35:32.420
didn't you come back? Because I didn't know that

00:35:32.420 --> 00:35:34.840
I could be like, dude, you're making it fucking

00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:37.559
weird. All right, I'm trying to have sex with

00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.440
your wife, and you got a camera light over my

00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:43.739
fucking shoulder. I can't tell you how many husbands

00:35:43.739 --> 00:35:45.860
have said, you know, these fucking guys show

00:35:45.860 --> 00:35:48.000
up over here and they can't perform. motherfucker,

00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:50.780
your dick don't work on the best day. And you're

00:35:50.780 --> 00:35:52.900
mad that I can't perform while you're talking

00:35:52.900 --> 00:35:55.800
and you're shining the camera light in my face.

00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:58.179
You won't even let my dick get hard before you.

00:35:58.539 --> 00:36:01.440
So these are things when you start saying, know

00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:03.659
your value. I'm not saying that. We're not saying

00:36:03.659 --> 00:36:05.500
this in arrogance because there was a time when

00:36:05.500 --> 00:36:08.900
we didn't know our value. Well, now when I go

00:36:08.900 --> 00:36:12.159
into an interaction, it's not with arrogance.

00:36:12.260 --> 00:36:16.039
It's with, hey, here's the deal. tell me what

00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:18.400
you're into because we all have to have a good

00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:21.000
time here. I don't go and say, look, this is

00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:22.940
how I'm doing it. No, I go into an arrangement

00:36:22.940 --> 00:36:25.320
with a couple. I'm interested. I want to know

00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:26.860
what the husband likes. Okay, you like video.

00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:30.099
Cool. What positions do you like to get? Because

00:36:30.099 --> 00:36:32.300
I may try to put her in those positions. And

00:36:32.300 --> 00:36:35.079
I'll tell you what, I'm happy to do the cameras,

00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:38.099
to be on camera. I'm on camera. My dick's all

00:36:38.099 --> 00:36:39.900
over the internet. Okay, I'm cool with that.

00:36:39.980 --> 00:36:44.559
However, I need a second sport to warn mom. I

00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:49.119
need a second to get in the headspace, so if

00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:52.559
you give me a minute, and then that's cool. You

00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:57.119
know, all of these things, these were years of

00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:59.900
experiences, and I'm not talking about five or

00:36:59.900 --> 00:37:06.000
ten experiences. This was hundreds of experiences

00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:14.139
with, I mean, over hundreds of couples. I don't

00:37:14.139 --> 00:37:17.239
want to come across as me being arrogant and

00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:22.719
saying, know your value. Because, I mean, I've

00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.159
talked to a couple before. You get some dude

00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:28.900
that's 23 years old just because he's in great

00:37:28.900 --> 00:37:31.500
shape and he's got a huge dick and he fucks like

00:37:31.500 --> 00:37:36.369
an animal. He doesn't have enough life experience

00:37:36.369 --> 00:37:38.769
to do all the shit that you want him to do and

00:37:38.769 --> 00:37:41.030
know all the stuff you want him to know. And

00:37:41.030 --> 00:37:42.730
then you go, oh, you know something, this guy,

00:37:42.789 --> 00:37:47.630
this bull ain't shit. This bull's only had 15

00:37:47.630 --> 00:37:52.070
or 20 experiences with different couples. He

00:37:52.070 --> 00:37:59.849
is in his rookie season. He is confident in what

00:37:59.849 --> 00:38:03.820
he does. But he doesn't have enough experience

00:38:03.820 --> 00:38:08.699
yet to give you the experience you want. And

00:38:08.699 --> 00:38:11.579
most couples aren't willing to help somebody

00:38:11.579 --> 00:38:14.699
by giving them advice. They just expect every

00:38:14.699 --> 00:38:18.460
guy to show up. And they think that every dude

00:38:18.460 --> 00:38:23.139
has had 10 years of practice with a couple exactly

00:38:23.139 --> 00:38:26.059
like them with their exact dynamics. And they

00:38:26.059 --> 00:38:28.559
feel like, well, he can't come in and plead my

00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:31.699
wife. He don't know what he's doing. So we go

00:38:31.699 --> 00:38:37.300
back to as a guy, know your value and know when

00:38:37.300 --> 00:38:40.800
you haven't had enough experience to offer. And

00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:43.480
then that means there's more communication. Hey,

00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:47.179
I definitely want to do a good job and I want

00:38:47.179 --> 00:38:50.000
to be invited back. This is the experience I've

00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:52.679
had. So you guys can kind of tell me what you

00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:56.380
like and I can we can kind of figure it out together.

00:38:56.460 --> 00:38:58.219
It's going to be a lot of years of figuring it

00:38:58.219 --> 00:39:01.760
out with couples. before you can come in and

00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:05.340
go oh I've been with a couple similar to this

00:39:05.340 --> 00:39:08.619
I've been with 20 couples similar to this I think

00:39:08.619 --> 00:39:11.880
I kind of know how to work this so that's when

00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:13.940
when we say know your value don't think this

00:39:13.940 --> 00:39:17.739
is arrogance this is a whole lot of Mr. Mocha

00:39:17.739 --> 00:39:21.280
falling on his fucking face walking out of situations

00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:24.659
you know not knowing that I could walk out of

00:39:24.659 --> 00:39:30.239
situations being you know I have, and I feel

00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:32.860
bad to say this, I can't tell you how many couples

00:39:32.860 --> 00:39:36.800
I had ghosted because they just made the shit

00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:39.000
way too uncomfortable. And back when I was in

00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:41.519
my rookie season, like, I'm not going back into

00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:46.539
that drama. And then I don't know how to politely

00:39:46.539 --> 00:39:49.519
say, no, I don't want to come back because your

00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:52.260
husband's being a fucking weirdo. Or no, I don't

00:39:52.260 --> 00:39:56.090
want to come back because your wife. is not communicating,

00:39:56.170 --> 00:39:59.230
but she expects me to know exactly what's happening

00:39:59.230 --> 00:40:02.309
while the husband is, I didn't know how to say

00:40:02.309 --> 00:40:07.670
that early on. So that's what I mean about knowing

00:40:07.670 --> 00:40:14.829
your value. Exactly. I absolutely agree. And,

00:40:15.010 --> 00:40:18.590
and gentlemen, for the gentlemen listeners out

00:40:18.590 --> 00:40:22.469
there, our gentlemen bulls, it's just what Mocha

00:40:22.469 --> 00:40:26.380
was saying. No, you know, I know he are not trying

00:40:26.380 --> 00:40:28.619
to be, you know, sound arrogant or anything like

00:40:28.619 --> 00:40:33.980
that. And yes, you will learn through evolving.

00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:36.179
You hear me talk about that all the time. As

00:40:36.179 --> 00:40:38.739
you get older, as you get older, the more experiences

00:40:38.739 --> 00:40:43.820
you have, you will learn. And as you learn, gentlemen,

00:40:44.099 --> 00:40:50.139
don't be afraid to speak what's on your mind.

00:40:50.619 --> 00:40:55.400
If you have like, Smokey was saying, the porn

00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:59.139
director who is standing over you. I've had that

00:40:59.139 --> 00:41:05.519
shit before. I cannot perform with a husband,

00:41:05.579 --> 00:41:08.420
like, walking all around me with the camera,

00:41:08.659 --> 00:41:13.940
taking pics, taking the close -ups, and then

00:41:13.940 --> 00:41:15.880
going back and then going, especially if you're

00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:20.340
getting, like, behind me. I can't perform. I

00:41:20.340 --> 00:41:23.639
can't perform. When I first started out with

00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:27.960
my little escort gig, I had trouble. I had trouble

00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:32.900
with that a few times. And I went back to my

00:41:32.900 --> 00:41:35.239
handler and I was like, what should I do about

00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:40.260
this? And she was saying, baby, tell them. You

00:41:40.260 --> 00:41:42.340
know, tell them. You're young. You know what

00:41:42.340 --> 00:41:44.179
I mean? You're young. This is your first time

00:41:44.179 --> 00:41:48.320
doing this. So I went back and I was able to

00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:54.360
sit down and have my. my, um, checklist as to,

00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:56.820
you know, this is what I'm comfortable with.

00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.440
This is what I'm not comfortable with. Um, you

00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:02.760
know, it takes me a minute to get going, you

00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:05.219
know, for some things, uh, some things I respond

00:42:05.219 --> 00:42:08.559
faster with, et cetera, et cetera. So don't,

00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:10.139
you know, don't think, don't get embarrassed.

00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:12.960
That's what I'm trying to say. Don't get embarrassed.

00:42:13.139 --> 00:42:16.019
If things don't go your way, those first four,

00:42:16.179 --> 00:42:18.980
five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 times. All

00:42:18.980 --> 00:42:21.000
right. It's a part of learning. It's a part of

00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:25.260
evolving. And that is what makes you that quality

00:42:25.260 --> 00:42:28.940
bull later on in life because you have had all

00:42:28.940 --> 00:42:31.840
of those experiences and you know how to navigate,

00:42:31.980 --> 00:42:40.659
like Mocha said. And I can't go any further because

00:42:40.659 --> 00:42:43.119
Mocha hit everything. So take it over, nephew.

00:42:45.269 --> 00:42:48.329
Yeah, yeah. That was good stuff. We're going

00:42:48.329 --> 00:42:50.670
to be causing some time because I know Mr. Mocha

00:42:50.670 --> 00:42:54.429
got some business. Exactly, exactly. You got

00:42:54.429 --> 00:42:56.750
some business to take care of. I'm good. I got

00:42:56.750 --> 00:43:01.989
15 more minutes. Yeah, so we're probably going

00:43:01.989 --> 00:43:04.670
to do a couple more episodes of this because

00:43:04.670 --> 00:43:07.090
I got a whole other categories of things that

00:43:07.090 --> 00:43:09.210
I want to go over in this one. So I'll say it

00:43:09.210 --> 00:43:12.090
this way. Well, I'll ask my question this way.

00:43:12.170 --> 00:43:16.039
So Mr. Mocha, This is what I saw for myself.

00:43:16.219 --> 00:43:20.179
And I just want you to kind of put a little commentary

00:43:20.179 --> 00:43:25.980
on this. What I notice is it's the road you start

00:43:25.980 --> 00:43:29.519
off in the road of learning about the person.

00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:31.500
And what I'm saying is when you come with the

00:43:31.500 --> 00:43:34.340
mentality of I'm trying to get on their program,

00:43:34.460 --> 00:43:40.940
I'm trying to qualify for them, you end up. You

00:43:40.940 --> 00:43:44.300
end up in a place where you are actually inauthentic

00:43:44.300 --> 00:43:48.280
because they have all of their sets of needs

00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:52.039
and desires and wants and everything. And if

00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:54.500
you're a bull in the lifestyle, if you're in

00:43:54.500 --> 00:43:56.659
a dynamic where you're expected to be the leader,

00:43:56.800 --> 00:44:00.159
then what hit me was, well, you're expected to

00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.780
have a program, right? But when you go in there

00:44:02.780 --> 00:44:04.719
trying to see, well, what's theirs and how can

00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:08.590
I fit into it? I ended up being like. I don't

00:44:08.590 --> 00:44:09.909
want to do that, but like you said, I need to

00:44:09.909 --> 00:44:12.349
be nice. I don't know if I could do that. I've

00:44:12.349 --> 00:44:14.150
never done that. I don't know if I'm feeling

00:44:14.150 --> 00:44:18.090
that. I've never tried it. But let me see if

00:44:18.090 --> 00:44:21.469
I can try it and act like I'm liking it. So what

00:44:21.469 --> 00:44:23.969
are some of the problems you see when you see

00:44:23.969 --> 00:44:26.530
a lot of bulls going in there saying, well, let

00:44:26.530 --> 00:44:29.329
me see what I can do to kind of fit, knowing

00:44:29.329 --> 00:44:31.889
that they don't want to be authentic, but they

00:44:31.889 --> 00:44:33.530
kind of end up in a place they don't really want

00:44:33.530 --> 00:44:39.070
to be in? So now those are two different things.

00:44:39.570 --> 00:44:45.469
So here's the thing. Like early on, if you're

00:44:45.469 --> 00:44:51.030
still learning as a bull, you are going to wind

00:44:51.030 --> 00:44:52.550
up in a lot of situations where you're like,

00:44:52.630 --> 00:44:54.730
holy shit, because I've had a whole lot of holy

00:44:54.730 --> 00:44:57.090
shit moments as a bull. Like that's going to

00:44:57.090 --> 00:45:00.769
happen. There's going to be a lot of times where

00:45:00.769 --> 00:45:03.650
you're introduced to some new shit. And here's

00:45:03.650 --> 00:45:06.219
the thing. That's the beauty on the other side

00:45:06.219 --> 00:45:09.059
of that. When you're meeting a couple, you're

00:45:09.059 --> 00:45:11.099
not going in and saying, I'm the fucking boss.

00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:12.599
We're going to do what I want. No, it's still

00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:16.400
an exchange. There's still an exchange of sexual

00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:19.000
energy. There's still an exchange of sexual experiences.

00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:21.940
I'm not saying do that now. It's a completely

00:45:21.940 --> 00:45:24.280
different thing. You wind up in a situation where

00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:25.940
somebody like, hey, let's try this. And I'm like,

00:45:26.059 --> 00:45:31.320
whoa, whoa, I'll do that. No, I'm cool. Like,

00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:34.420
and you're going to, here's the thing. If you

00:45:34.420 --> 00:45:38.400
have been a bull in the lifestyle long enough,

00:45:38.539 --> 00:45:43.679
no matter how freaky you think you are or how

00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:47.780
wild you think you are, somebody's going to introduce

00:45:47.780 --> 00:45:50.579
some shit at you and be like, nah, I'm not cool

00:45:50.579 --> 00:45:57.619
with that. It's just how it works. So when you

00:45:57.619 --> 00:46:01.599
are confronted, there's a difference between

00:46:02.190 --> 00:46:05.750
being confronted with new stuff where people

00:46:05.750 --> 00:46:09.809
go, hey, would you mind trying this? Or would

00:46:09.809 --> 00:46:12.409
you be interested in doing this? Because as a

00:46:12.409 --> 00:46:16.610
bull, you, as a bull and an individual, you still

00:46:16.610 --> 00:46:19.550
have the ability to go yes or no. That's how

00:46:19.550 --> 00:46:23.210
you got to get your experiences. So early on,

00:46:23.309 --> 00:46:25.510
you are going to go into a lot of situations

00:46:25.510 --> 00:46:28.110
because you're trying to figure out who you are

00:46:28.110 --> 00:46:31.289
as a bull. You can still be dominant and go into

00:46:31.289 --> 00:46:34.610
a situation because it's like, I'm going to ask

00:46:34.610 --> 00:46:37.090
everybody, what are you into? And every once

00:46:37.090 --> 00:46:40.170
in a while, somebody's like, I like this. And

00:46:40.170 --> 00:46:44.250
you're like, hmm. Well, I've never done that

00:46:44.250 --> 00:46:48.030
before, but fuck it. Let's give it a shot. You

00:46:48.030 --> 00:46:54.010
know, so a lot of things that you do, this is

00:46:54.010 --> 00:46:58.559
why it's a time thing. you're going to go into

00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:01.519
a whole lot of situations attempting to accommodate

00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:07.579
people on your journey to see what you're into

00:47:07.579 --> 00:47:11.300
because if you start at the very beginning, in

00:47:11.300 --> 00:47:13.840
the very beginning, the concept of sticking your

00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:18.039
dick in somebody's life is a little weird. Even

00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:19.960
if you fantasize your whole life, the first time

00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:23.880
you do it, it's a little weird. So that's something

00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:28.500
that's new. And then as a bull, the first time

00:47:28.500 --> 00:47:32.139
you're in a situation and you hear a wife completely

00:47:32.139 --> 00:47:36.679
degrading her husband that's crazy okay then

00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:39.420
you step up to the first time you're in a situation

00:47:39.420 --> 00:47:41.480
where you're trying to fuck the wife and she's

00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:44.400
telling you yeah tell him how miserable and how

00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:46.739
weak he is and i'm like wait i gotta you want

00:47:46.739 --> 00:47:48.780
me to do commentary and maintain an erection

00:47:52.980 --> 00:47:56.340
Within his lifestyle, you are constantly being

00:47:56.340 --> 00:47:59.880
introduced to new things. We're always getting

00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:02.800
introduced to new things and new styles. You

00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:07.260
know, hey, look, I can give you a list of things

00:48:07.260 --> 00:48:12.460
that, hey, there's some things that I've seen

00:48:12.460 --> 00:48:15.599
or some requests that I've gotten where I'm like,

00:48:15.699 --> 00:48:20.079
holy shit. Are you joking? Like you, you know.

00:48:20.959 --> 00:48:23.340
So you're going to be constantly, and then somebody

00:48:23.340 --> 00:48:28.860
may offer some shit that you're like, huh. Well,

00:48:28.900 --> 00:48:31.380
that's not my thing. Hell, the first time I ever

00:48:31.380 --> 00:48:33.860
pissed on somebody's husband. Like, hey, will

00:48:33.860 --> 00:48:35.760
you piss on my husband? I'm like, eh, that's

00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:41.139
kind of weird. But explain this to me. You know,

00:48:41.380 --> 00:48:43.420
because she like it really turned me on. So she

00:48:43.420 --> 00:48:46.469
puts the poor bastard in the tub. And she's standing

00:48:46.469 --> 00:48:48.409
there holding it for me, and my brain was like,

00:48:48.409 --> 00:48:50.969
I'll try, but I couldn't do it. I couldn't do

00:48:50.969 --> 00:48:55.590
it. And then over time, she would be talking

00:48:55.590 --> 00:48:58.070
to me and telling me how she fantasizes about

00:48:58.070 --> 00:49:00.789
me doing it and how wet she gets and how she

00:49:00.789 --> 00:49:03.170
squirts thinking about it, and she inspired me

00:49:03.170 --> 00:49:06.030
to go and piss on her husband and then fuck the

00:49:06.030 --> 00:49:10.449
hell out of her. So you're going to be introduced

00:49:10.449 --> 00:49:14.260
to some new shit. that you may or may not be

00:49:14.260 --> 00:49:17.320
okay with. So I'm not saying go into it with

00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:22.099
a closed mind because you do want to leave knowing

00:49:22.099 --> 00:49:26.639
that you gave them an amazing experience. With

00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:30.699
me, oftentimes, I will say go into it with an

00:49:30.699 --> 00:49:34.039
open mind, but still, if you're the bull, be

00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:40.000
able to say no. Be able to say, okay, cool. I'm

00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:46.300
okay with doing this thing. But I am still going

00:49:46.300 --> 00:49:50.000
to be me, and I am still my dominant self. So

00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:56.519
with anything sexual and dealing with other human

00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:59.119
beings in this type of situation, everything

00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:03.460
is kind of nuanced. Because I'm a dominant person

00:50:03.460 --> 00:50:08.480
by nature, but everything I know about sex, some

00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:16.510
woman taught me. You know, and I take the experience

00:50:16.510 --> 00:50:19.329
from all of those women and I learn to combine

00:50:19.329 --> 00:50:21.210
them. And I've taken experience from all the

00:50:21.210 --> 00:50:24.050
couples, the good and the bad experiences. And

00:50:24.050 --> 00:50:27.389
I learned to combine them into my style, you

00:50:27.389 --> 00:50:30.429
know. And so if you're new to this, if you're

00:50:30.429 --> 00:50:32.610
a new bull, understand it's going to take you

00:50:32.610 --> 00:50:35.670
time. And the more inexperienced bulls, yes,

00:50:35.750 --> 00:50:39.630
you definitely have to be able to go in and.

00:50:41.219 --> 00:50:44.300
experience and learn what different couples like

00:50:44.300 --> 00:50:48.139
because I went into it and learned what so many

00:50:48.139 --> 00:50:53.679
different couples liked. Then I have this reservoir

00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:58.119
of experience that helps me know what I don't

00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:02.960
want, what I don't like, and identify the type

00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:04.599
of couple I do want to be with or don't want

00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:07.380
to be with. Now, no matter how old you are as

00:51:07.380 --> 00:51:09.300
a bull, if you just came to the lifestyle and

00:51:09.300 --> 00:51:11.719
you've been in it for two or three years, yeah,

00:51:11.820 --> 00:51:16.320
you have to have the mentality that I'm going

00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:20.440
to go in and learn how as many couples out there

00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:22.500
want to do it because it doesn't mean you can't

00:51:22.500 --> 00:51:24.480
be in control of the situation. It doesn't mean

00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:28.400
you can't be dominant. You know, a lot of it

00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:32.900
is an experience thing. And they're going to

00:51:32.900 --> 00:51:35.440
expect you because of your age. if you are a

00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:37.579
little bit older, they're going to go into that

00:51:37.579 --> 00:51:41.059
already thinking that you know, that you know

00:51:41.059 --> 00:51:44.260
a few things, you know? Am I right or wrong,

00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:48.039
Mocha? They're going to expect you because of

00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:50.440
your age, because you're seasoned age -wise,

00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:54.539
that you know some things, you know? Even though

00:51:54.539 --> 00:51:57.039
you may have been in this, you know, a year,

00:51:57.079 --> 00:52:00.360
two, three years, whatever. Now, don't get me

00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:04.119
wrong. You're going to be able to adapt and learn.

00:52:04.730 --> 00:52:07.530
a hell of a lot quicker than that younger guy.

00:52:08.329 --> 00:52:12.050
I kind of wish that I would have gotten into

00:52:12.050 --> 00:52:19.989
this later in life rather than age 26. Because

00:52:19.989 --> 00:52:23.389
I thought I knew, and I think I told you before,

00:52:23.489 --> 00:52:26.269
nephew, I thought everything about sex involved

00:52:26.269 --> 00:52:30.389
being a porn star, what I saw on porn. And I

00:52:30.389 --> 00:52:33.900
was so fucking wrong. I was so wrong. So here

00:52:33.900 --> 00:52:36.099
again, I had to be like Mocha. I had to learn

00:52:36.099 --> 00:52:40.059
through trial and error. Thank God my handler

00:52:40.059 --> 00:52:44.960
had patience with me because she did. She taught

00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:47.539
me. She taught me. She taught me a whole bunch

00:52:47.539 --> 00:52:52.199
of things. I knew the physical, but I had to

00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:56.179
learn the emotional. You know, I had to learn.

00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:57.940
I had to learn how to read couples. I had to

00:52:57.940 --> 00:53:00.920
learn how to talk to husbands. I had to learn

00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:06.849
how to. read body language um and here again

00:53:06.849 --> 00:53:12.530
for a couple of years i had to do uh there were

00:53:12.530 --> 00:53:14.809
some times where i had to deal with some couples

00:53:14.809 --> 00:53:17.969
that i was not necessarily attracted to you know

00:53:17.969 --> 00:53:21.329
because i was in a certain field where you know

00:53:21.329 --> 00:53:25.789
i had to perform you know what i mean um and

00:53:25.789 --> 00:53:31.170
so that's um the evolution it just all boils

00:53:31.170 --> 00:53:35.170
down it boils down to the evolution um and i

00:53:35.170 --> 00:53:36.650
think that was one of our topics at one time

00:53:36.650 --> 00:53:39.070
wasn't it evolution of becoming a quality bull

00:53:39.070 --> 00:53:41.829
you know that's what that's what this boils down

00:53:41.829 --> 00:53:45.650
to that's what it boils down to um and it is

00:53:45.650 --> 00:53:50.690
it is all about patience it is all about like

00:53:50.690 --> 00:53:52.849
like mocha said learning through trial and error

00:53:52.849 --> 00:53:58.050
you know but once you have put together your

00:54:00.009 --> 00:54:03.389
Your package, your equation that works for you,

00:54:03.510 --> 00:54:08.949
you'll be knocking things out of the park. You'll

00:54:08.949 --> 00:54:10.409
be knocking things out of the park. I don't care.

00:54:10.449 --> 00:54:13.090
And I don't care what type of couple that it

00:54:13.090 --> 00:54:15.309
is. I don't care what type of couple that it

00:54:15.309 --> 00:54:17.050
is. I don't care what type of couple. I don't

00:54:17.050 --> 00:54:19.909
care what the couple's looking for. You'll be

00:54:19.909 --> 00:54:24.869
able to immediately latch on to that and blend

00:54:24.869 --> 00:54:27.269
right in. Just blend right in and be able to

00:54:27.269 --> 00:54:29.860
give them that. whether it be the boyfriend experience

00:54:29.860 --> 00:54:32.880
or just, you know, providing some good dick for

00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:36.179
a while or just a companionship type of thing,

00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:39.340
you know, because a lot of times, a lot of times,

00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:45.119
man, couples, they want that third party to just

00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:48.360
hang out with. You know, the sex might come later,

00:54:48.440 --> 00:54:50.840
but they want that third party to hang out with.

00:54:50.940 --> 00:54:53.400
Believe me. And that's more fun, man. God damn,

00:54:53.460 --> 00:54:56.039
that's fun as hell. When you go somewhere and

00:54:56.039 --> 00:54:59.030
it's the three of you all. And everybody's looking

00:54:59.030 --> 00:55:01.829
at you like, what the fuck is this? I read about

00:55:01.829 --> 00:55:04.489
it, but I'm seeing this, you know what I mean?

00:55:04.949 --> 00:55:08.250
So evolution, yeah, that's what it's all about.

00:55:08.889 --> 00:55:13.110
Evolution. Mastering the art of seduction, finding

00:55:13.110 --> 00:55:18.250
your sweet spot as to what equation works for

00:55:18.250 --> 00:55:23.269
you, and then going from there, in my opinion.

00:55:25.550 --> 00:55:28.079
Yeah, I definitely agree. I definitely agree.

00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:31.460
You know, because it's, and it's interesting

00:55:31.460 --> 00:55:36.519
when you think about, I think a lot of people

00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:44.559
forget when you're talking about a guy, okay,

00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:50.420
when you're looking through a man's lens, very

00:55:50.420 --> 00:55:54.739
few men are singular in their sexual play style.

00:55:55.980 --> 00:56:03.639
So as a guy, I may want a woman who I just want

00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:08.420
to, I can go in and just fuck. I can go in and

00:56:08.420 --> 00:56:12.159
have a conversation. I can be sensual. I can

00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:15.000
be all of these different things. So it's not

00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:22.539
like we're usually one way. And as a guy, for

00:56:22.539 --> 00:56:26.659
me personally, I always wanted to know that I

00:56:26.659 --> 00:56:30.019
had the ability to bring a woman pleasure. Like

00:56:30.019 --> 00:56:32.500
that's a big deal for me. Number one, number

00:56:32.500 --> 00:56:39.420
one thing. So before the lifestyle, you know,

00:56:39.460 --> 00:56:42.500
I, I was, I fired off as a massage therapist.

00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:45.199
That's what I did first. I, I'm a very touchy

00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:47.699
feely person. I like to touch a woman's body.

00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:50.699
Like I, I want to know all the ways she likes

00:56:50.699 --> 00:56:56.010
pleasure. It's very easy for you to be adaptable

00:56:56.010 --> 00:57:02.469
to a woman's sexual desires because that's what

00:57:02.469 --> 00:57:05.090
we want. As a bull, we want to be able to go

00:57:05.090 --> 00:57:10.389
in and offer her an experience better than as

00:57:10.389 --> 00:57:15.010
best that we can. The thing that makes you different

00:57:15.010 --> 00:57:20.610
as a bull is you are trying to physically satisfy

00:57:20.610 --> 00:57:26.960
the wife. But you are emotionally giving the

00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:30.800
husband a sensation. A sensation, yep. It's three

00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:35.639
people here. His gratification is coming through

00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:43.480
secondhand sex. So a bull is not just a penis.

00:57:45.019 --> 00:57:50.579
A successful bull is not just a penis. A successful

00:57:50.579 --> 00:57:53.670
bull understands that. You're trying to bring

00:57:53.670 --> 00:57:56.909
the wife physical pleasure while giving this

00:57:56.909 --> 00:58:00.150
husband this, whether it gives him some sort

00:58:00.150 --> 00:58:02.670
of... Bottom line, it's still sexual. It's still

00:58:02.670 --> 00:58:05.849
sexual for him. He's still getting sexual pleasure.

00:58:05.889 --> 00:58:09.179
Let's just say it what it is. I mean... Guys

00:58:09.179 --> 00:58:10.780
don't like the way it sounds. I've said this

00:58:10.780 --> 00:58:13.039
to guys before. I'm not giving him sexual gratification.

00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:15.420
Shut the fuck up. You are giving him sexual gratification.

00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:18.719
If he in the corner with a cage on or if he's

00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:20.820
standing there stroping his dick watching you

00:58:20.820 --> 00:58:23.579
fuck his wife, you are giving him sexual gratification.

00:58:23.980 --> 00:58:28.400
His is more, you know, cerebral. That turns into

00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:31.900
physical while you are giving her physical. And

00:58:31.900 --> 00:58:35.559
you are, as a bull, if you're taking on the bull

00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:38.739
moniker, you're learning how to satisfy both

00:58:38.739 --> 00:58:46.159
of them, okay? And the way you do that is by

00:58:46.159 --> 00:58:51.860
learning and practicing and experiencing. And

00:58:51.860 --> 00:58:54.079
if you're the kind of guy who had the ability

00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:56.900
to talk to a woman in a vanilla world because

00:58:56.900 --> 00:59:00.280
that wife still requires the same thing and oftentimes

00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:03.760
the husband wants to see it or... If you go into

00:59:03.760 --> 00:59:05.920
a situation where the husband is like, look,

00:59:06.019 --> 00:59:08.019
I just want you to come in and fuck my wife.

00:59:08.219 --> 00:59:10.739
You know, that's what our dynamic is. I'm comfortable

00:59:10.739 --> 00:59:13.079
with that as well. You know, as a bull, you're

00:59:13.079 --> 00:59:17.039
going to wear a different hat. But you get to

00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:19.619
choose what hat you wear. There are going to

00:59:19.619 --> 00:59:23.739
be some couples. I turn down couples online every

00:59:23.739 --> 00:59:26.659
day. Let me phrase that. I don't mean every day

00:59:26.659 --> 00:59:28.920
because I don't get people reach out to me every

00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:33.400
day. Excuse me. I turn down. More couples online

00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:38.719
than I will accept for the simple fact that they

00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:42.139
come at me in a way that is not okay with me.

00:59:42.420 --> 00:59:46.079
I literally had a guy send me a message on FetLife

00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:49.639
the other day. Hey, I see you play with Hot Wives.

00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:53.260
I'm glad. I'm going to send some pictures of

00:59:53.260 --> 00:59:57.260
my wife later on so we can get together. Go fuck

00:59:57.260 --> 01:00:02.760
yourself. Who the fuck are you talking to? You

01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:05.260
know, now I know a lot of guys, if the wife is

01:00:05.260 --> 01:00:07.400
hot enough, he's going to deal with that. Meaning,

01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:12.219
I don't give a fuck how hot she is. I'm not,

01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:15.599
there's certain things I'm not going to do. So

01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:21.039
when I start talking about me bringing people

01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:25.360
into my style of playing, I have many hats that

01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:30.420
I can wear. Ideally, you want... to experience

01:00:30.420 --> 01:00:33.079
me while I'm wearing one of my mini caps. But

01:00:33.079 --> 01:00:35.599
if you try to make me do some shit, I'm not trying

01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:38.900
to adapt to some shit that I'm not into. I'm

01:00:38.900 --> 01:00:43.280
not trying to go into a tool bag and go, yeah,

01:00:43.300 --> 01:00:45.900
I know this is the kind of guy that wants me

01:00:45.900 --> 01:00:50.099
to do this or that, but I don't like it, but

01:00:50.099 --> 01:00:51.760
man, I really want to fuck his wife. No, fuck

01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:55.139
that. Ain't no pussy that good. Ain't no pussy

01:00:55.139 --> 01:00:57.860
that good. I've had too much of it. You know,

01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:02.079
I can say no. I can wear it down. Damn, what

01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:05.019
does that come down to, nephew? Knowing your

01:01:05.019 --> 01:01:07.719
what? Knowing your value, right? Knowing your

01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:10.659
value. Knowing your worth. That's it. That is

01:01:10.659 --> 01:01:13.300
it. Knowing your value. Knowing your worth, man.

01:01:14.500 --> 01:01:17.679
Damn. I can't come back with nothing shit after

01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:21.139
Mocha. Mocha's just hitting the holy grail right

01:01:21.139 --> 01:01:24.900
now. I can't come back with anything. You know

01:01:24.900 --> 01:01:27.739
what I mean? I tell you, I like running my mouth.

01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:31.659
But, brother, when it's the gospel, there ain't

01:01:31.659 --> 01:01:34.800
nothing for me to damn say. I think it's safe

01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:37.420
to say, ladies and gentlemen, that Mr. Mocha

01:01:37.420 --> 01:01:44.800
and I are really the exact same type of quality

01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:48.159
bull. We may do things a little differently.

01:01:48.300 --> 01:01:51.199
We may present things a little differently. But

01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:56.659
we are the exact same. I think I can say honestly

01:01:56.659 --> 01:02:01.869
that. He's like me when it comes to the pleasure

01:02:01.869 --> 01:02:05.110
thing. It is all about the woman's pleasure for

01:02:05.110 --> 01:02:09.250
me. I want to, I have to get her off. I need

01:02:09.250 --> 01:02:12.909
to get her off. Okay. Couples please me when

01:02:12.909 --> 01:02:15.610
they reach out to me. When they reach out to

01:02:15.610 --> 01:02:19.210
me the right way. And here again, that was what

01:02:19.210 --> 01:02:22.050
Mocha was saying a few minutes ago. We know our

01:02:22.050 --> 01:02:24.650
value. We know our worth. And you're just not

01:02:24.650 --> 01:02:28.500
going to come off on me. basically tell me okay

01:02:28.500 --> 01:02:32.039
i'm gonna send pictures and you know you're gonna

01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:34.699
do this so we're gonna get together yeah fuck

01:02:34.699 --> 01:02:37.639
you and die all right pussies like a savings

01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:40.219
account okay i'll make a withdrawal the interest

01:02:40.219 --> 01:02:42.800
is gone so don't don't think that you're gonna

01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:45.400
you know come here and and and tell me what the

01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:47.860
hell i'm gonna do with your wife no approach

01:02:47.860 --> 01:02:50.559
me here again approach me like the gentleman

01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:54.159
husband that you should be and then we go from

01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:57.630
there we talk We establish a rapport. And then

01:02:57.630 --> 01:03:00.469
you can show me that lovely wife of yours. And

01:03:00.469 --> 01:03:02.289
if we get together and there's some chemistry,

01:03:02.409 --> 01:03:06.590
then there we go from there. Amen. Amen. Listen,

01:03:06.889 --> 01:03:16.710
thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, that's

01:03:16.710 --> 01:03:19.050
it. That is it. You made it sound so simple.

01:03:19.130 --> 01:03:21.090
I know I be making that shit sound complicated,

01:03:21.250 --> 01:03:27.159
but... If you do what he just said, for those

01:03:27.159 --> 01:03:29.659
couples who I pretend like I didn't see your

01:03:29.659 --> 01:03:34.320
message, I'll probably respond. I will probably

01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:38.099
respond. If I don't, maybe there was not a mutual

01:03:38.099 --> 01:03:41.639
attraction. But when you know that your life

01:03:41.639 --> 01:03:46.380
is hot and you're like, oh, I have somebody message

01:03:46.380 --> 01:03:49.219
like, my wife looks like the girls on your, the

01:03:49.219 --> 01:03:52.079
women in your videos. Why won't you respond to

01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:57.239
me? Cause you're a dick. That's why I won't respond

01:03:57.239 --> 01:04:01.039
to you. Because you're not hitting me with the

01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:08.340
basic. Hi, how are you? My name is my wife. Exactly.

01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:13.280
You're looking at me as only a dick. All right.

01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:16.119
You're taking that term bull and you're actually

01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:18.840
making that shit fucking derogatory in a way.

01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:21.599
Cause you're looking at me as only a piece, just

01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:25.099
a dick. You don't mean just a penis. And, you

01:04:25.099 --> 01:04:27.579
know, I just need you for your damn penis. OK.

01:04:27.780 --> 01:04:32.340
And here again, fuck you and die. We'd be part

01:04:32.340 --> 01:04:35.619
two on just that topic. Now you preaching the

01:04:35.619 --> 01:04:39.659
gospel. We can. We can. We will definitely do

01:04:39.659 --> 01:04:42.119
part two on just that topic. But, yeah, there's

01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:45.280
just, you know, I am more than just providing

01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:48.519
penis. OK. Matter of fact, that's the last thing

01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:53.039
on my fucking mind. We will get to that. We will

01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:56.360
get to that, but I want you to get to know me,

01:04:56.460 --> 01:05:00.380
not just the bull, but I want you to know me.

01:05:00.719 --> 01:05:03.699
I want you to be able to trust me, et cetera,

01:05:03.699 --> 01:05:07.320
et cetera, and then we go from there. We got

01:05:07.320 --> 01:05:09.139
to have the damn communication. We have to have

01:05:09.139 --> 01:05:13.340
the established rapport. We have to have the

01:05:13.340 --> 01:05:16.079
trust. We have to have the whole nine yards before

01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:19.960
I deal with you. That's it. That is it. I don't

01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:22.360
care how damn fine your damn wife is. I don't

01:05:22.360 --> 01:05:25.360
care. I give her that compliment. Beautiful lady.

01:05:25.579 --> 01:05:28.679
But until we establish all of that, it's not

01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:31.619
going to happen. It's not going to happen. I

01:05:31.619 --> 01:05:37.019
passed the BBC Bulls stage a long time ago. I

01:05:37.019 --> 01:05:39.500
passed that. I had that shit when I was escorting.

01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:43.920
And to be honest with you, it kind of got old

01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:48.300
quick. It kind of got old really quick. So, you

01:05:48.300 --> 01:05:51.739
know, this is where we are now. And and I say

01:05:51.739 --> 01:05:54.539
we because I said Mocha's Mocha's in the same

01:05:54.539 --> 01:05:59.519
boat. It takes a lot. It takes a lot to to toot

01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:01.599
our horn, ladies and gentlemen. It takes a lot.

01:06:01.820 --> 01:06:04.440
It really does. And here again, not trying to

01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:07.139
sound conceited or arrogant or anything like

01:06:07.139 --> 01:06:11.719
that. But when you talk to the three of us, when

01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:14.579
you talk to the three of us, we are the definition

01:06:14.579 --> 01:06:20.400
of what that quality. Bull is. Period. Facts.

01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:28.739
End of story. Drop the mic. Drop the mic. I'm

01:06:28.739 --> 01:06:32.559
with you because it's the experience at this

01:06:32.559 --> 01:06:36.000
point. I mean, I can have as much sex as I want,

01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:40.199
but giving experience is what I want to do. That's

01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:42.900
it. That is it. And ladies and gentlemen, we're

01:06:42.900 --> 01:06:45.349
going to call it a night. As we said before,

01:06:45.489 --> 01:06:48.329
Mr. Mocha has a few things to do, but please,

01:06:48.429 --> 01:06:51.849
please tune in to part two. He will be back in

01:06:51.849 --> 01:06:53.949
the very near future, and we will continue this

01:06:53.949 --> 01:06:56.969
conversation. As for myself, the Sigma male,

01:06:57.150 --> 01:07:01.210
I am calling out all my quality bulls out there.

01:07:01.570 --> 01:07:04.429
You've heard us, all right? We're speaking the

01:07:04.429 --> 01:07:08.110
gospel. For Nephew, Socrates, myself, and Mr.

01:07:08.309 --> 01:07:10.610
Mocha, to all the bulls out there, good night.

01:07:10.909 --> 01:07:14.980
To all my hot wives, ladies out there. good morning

01:07:14.980 --> 01:07:19.000
until we talk again i'll be to say cheers bye

01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:19.300
-bye