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Even the small things like making a woman squirt,

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and he probably never made her squirt. And it's

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like, wow, this energy shifted fast. It's like

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this whole thing that took a turn. And sometimes

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women can say things and piss them off, you know,

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piss the husband off or whatever. Like, why you

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can't make me do this? This podcast contains

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explicit adult content, mature themes, and candid

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ready to step into your masculine edge, and embrace

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a lifestyle that demands mastery, welcome to

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the Brotherhood. Welcome to the Bull Brotherhood

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Podcast, where we talk power, pleasure, and the

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is not your average lifestyle podcast. This is

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for men who lead, men who master, and men who

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leave a lasting impression. If you're here, you're

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not just curious. You're ready to elevate. So

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to all the bulls, hot wives, stags, and open

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-minded explorers, we see you. Let's go. Good

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evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to

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another exhilarating episode of the Bull Brotherhood

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Podcast. I'm the one and only Sigma male, Brian

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Morgan, coming at you. One third of the podcast

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team and family, along with the beautiful and

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lovely Siren. What's going on, beautiful? Hello.

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Oh, that was good. And also the professional

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student himself. Yeah, he didn't damn wait, but

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that's okay. I'm introduced anyway, ladies and

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gentlemen. The one and only Socrates. Hi, y 'all.

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He's eager tonight. He's excited. It's been a

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good day. Good, good. And ladies and gentlemen,

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coming at us tonight from Houston, Texas, it's

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a brother who, although I do not know very well

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at all, Socrates and Siren, they have put, they

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have actually vetted this man. Okay. And I'm

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anxious to hear what he has to say about his

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origin in the boy lifestyle. Again, coming at

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us from Houston, Texas, I give you the one and

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only Black Magic. What's up, big dog? Hey, what's

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really going on out there today? All right, all

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right. Love that Southern swag right there, that

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Southern twang, you know? Me being from North

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Carolina, we got the same thing. Oh, yeah. Oh,

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yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Well, look, ladies

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and gentlemen, I'm going to turn the mic over

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to my dog, Socrates, who's going to lead this

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interview tonight here along with Siren. I will

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chime in here and there. But no further ado,

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Socrates and Siren, take it away. Yes, sir. Thank

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you, man. Them intros, boy. We might have to

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start charging people to do it. You want actually

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a bomb -ass intro, you hit us up. I feel like

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we needed to say, welcome to the stage, Black

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Magic. Oh, yeah. I like that one a lot better.

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I need to hear some genuine when you come out.

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yeah they'll say that i was watching one of his

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videos not too long ago and they was giving him

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hell they were like this is not the gene wine

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i know yeah oh yeah i saw that one yeah so we

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just we want to get right into it man we were

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at i think siren you have you met him before

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this last party right Yeah, this party was my

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third time interacting with him. Yeah, okay.

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Five stars every time. Yeah, yeah. I already

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heard the stories. Only three times? Oh, no,

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four, four. Yeah, that one time. No, I remember

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now. I remember now. So Houston, Splash. Then

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the next Houston splash. Then Houston, my birthday

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weekend. When you came and got me, we went to

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that one party. And then this last weekend for

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the other birthday party. So, yeah, four times.

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Okay. Can you leave a little, you know, keep

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them in suspense. They want to know, you know,

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you giving it away. No, I'm not. Anyway. On my

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end, y 'all, I'm going to be honest with you.

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I don't keep up with, like, who's doing what.

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And, you know, we'll sit down and say, what's

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your favorite, this and that. I don't really

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keep up. So I went down there this last time.

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It was my first time going to, like, a private

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event in Houston. Siren loves it down there,

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you know. It was about to be her second home.

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And I was down there, and I was helping out,

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get the party going, you know. And, you know,

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Mr. Magic comes in and he's helping out. He's

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just like doing whatever he needs to do to help.

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He was being the pool boy. He was being the pool

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boy. But he was just, you know, wherever he needed

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to be helped. I always just started talking.

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And I'm, you know, I'm from the South, too, but

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I grew up in L .A. So, yeah, I end up talking

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to Mr. Magic and I was like. this brother got

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some sense like he i like what he's talking about

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and what caught my eye and let's let's let's

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kick off the first question was how you talked

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about the the playmates that you avoid and so

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without getting into detail you know what got

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you to the stage in your journey and we'll get

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to the beginning of it in a minute but what got

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you to the stage in your journey where you said,

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you know what, I really need to start moving

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from quantity to quality. I really need to start

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being careful with who I end up giving my time

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to and who I play with. That's a good question.

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Actually, it really started when I realized I

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was just, when pleasure becomes work, that's

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how I want to say it. It's like when you're doing

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things for fun and entertainment and then you

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get to the point. and you sit back and think

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it's like man why so much work behind having

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a good time you know it's like when you kind

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of new to it it's like okay you wouldn't go out

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your way and you really not knowing what are

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you doing you doing it but it's like you hear

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to satisfy them you are you all of y 'all have

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been satisfied from it and at first it was just

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a um how could i put it it was just more of a

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selfish behavior on my behalf or you know grief

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and it's like okay i do this i do that and i

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get and i'm all around the place you know and

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thinking i'm accomplishing something when i'm

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not and at the end of the day i'm like man it's

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just too much going here going out it ain't matter

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where i drive hours man it's just what it was

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and it got to a point like nah this more like

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work it's not even like I'm not satisfied from

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the deal, you know. And it's like you're more

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trying to meet other people's demand. And I'm

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not much to supply. I like that. And I started

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realizing, you know, the supply and demand, you

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know. Yeah, I couldn't get what I was being demanded

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of everywhere. You know, I'm one person. I wish

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I could be three people at one time, but, you

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know, it don't work like that. and that's when

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i kind of started realizing like man this is

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not fun like i want it to be so and i got to

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the point of realizing you know it's more about

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quality than just the number amount and even

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my first time going to the place um where i first

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met you it sorry um I want to say the name of

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it. I'm not sure how that works. You can. You

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can say it. Oh, okay. When I first went to Splash

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Mocha, one of the times, well, I saw you at,

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okay, it was like, it was a number game. The

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first time I went, it was like to see how many

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we could, you know, get in a day or two or a

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whole weekend. And then I realized, wow, I was

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one. They were like, man, you have to. pace yourself.

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By Saturday, you will be winded and want to tap

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out. I'm like, ain't no way. But yeah, it happens.

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So the next time, you know, I got a few male

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friends in the game that we kind of talk. You

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know, we do a lot of things together and go out

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and we plot on things on how we're going to go

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about and execute this goal or whatever and see

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who gets the most. But then the second time,

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we're like, nah, we got to do this right, man.

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We got to last the whole race, you know. And,

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yeah, slowly but surely, I caught on. But the

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quality and quantity thing, I've been caught

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on to that. But when it came to that event. It

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was so new to me that I was back on the, you

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know, quantity exchange. And yeah, that's how

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they work. I like that. I like that. I like that.

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And so let's go back to the beginning of Mr.

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Black Magic's journey towards being a quality

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bull. What got you into the lifestyle, you know,

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and tell us a story on what intrigued you about

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it and what got you into it. Well, honestly,

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it was more like I was dating this white woman.

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But before that, I never dated one. You know,

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I was just, you know, strictly on my kind or,

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you know, I would mess with Mexican women or

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whatever. But it got to a point, you know, I

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gave it a shot. I heard all the good things,

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but it was more like, let's really see what this

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is about. And she ought to take me out on a date.

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And I agreed. And I know where I would go. And,

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you know, she took me to this place like abandoned

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building. And we went inside and it was kind

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of like sketchy. It was, you wouldn't know what

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it was until you actually went further inside.

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But just going in, checking in booth, it's just,

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you know, a normal sitting. But it was no name.

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to the building and none of that. So I'm like,

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man, what is this? So once you check in or whatever,

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and then you go inside. Once I went in, that

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said enough right there. First thing I seen was

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like, it was a woman on a stripper pole and it

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was another woman on her knees. eating out so

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it was like wow okay first time seeing this at

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a club but i knew about them but i never been

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i never knew even in houston that it exists i

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thought you got to go out of state out the country

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to see these type of things and it is right in

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my face and i'm like wow and from that point

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on it became a habit and i want to go out i want

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to go here and you know everything that's dealing

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with free sexual freedom You know, I mean, sexual

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freedom. You know, and so it was fun. I stopped

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going to vanilla clubs, you know, where they

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just play music and drink. And I want to do things

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that's more fun where you got more options. That's

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what got me started. And when was that? I wasn't

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even on. What year? Oh, that was like, that was

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2015. Somewhere around there. Yeah. About 10

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years. It's cracking me up because I'm like,

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first time you go out with a white woman and

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she takes you to some sketchy building with no

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name on the door. You're like, what have I gotten

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myself into? Yeah. What's going on here? But

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it was interesting, man. And then it just became,

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I mean, very fun. I forgot. I didn't realize

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what I was missing all this time. Yeah. Man,

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tell me about it. I'm glad I was open -minded

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about it. Yeah, so what were your first thoughts?

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Like, when you first walked in, what were you

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thinking? You know, did you play that night?

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Were you thinking, like, oh, my goodness, is

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this real? You know, were you thinking, oh, my

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goodness, I've been waiting for this? No. You

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know, the whole night I was kind of just like,

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oh, God. You know, I played with her. And it

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was just observing things. I'm more of a voyeur.

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I was right there in the midst of things happening.

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And, you know, as far as this penetration -wise,

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no, I didn't get much going on. She did. I played

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with her. And, you know, I did a little fingering,

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this and that. But as far as me penetrating,

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no, not that day. It was just more trying to

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play the role. You know, you try to be – you

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got everything under control, you know. at all

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don't lose yourself in the situation type and

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that's how they went about but i was anxious

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don't get me wrong i wanted to do a whole lot

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but you know sounds like you were surveying the

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scene though yeah yeah it was your first time

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trying not to appear exactly as i tried not to

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feel thirsty you know yeah yeah yeah and at the

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same time you're saying yourself what the is

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going on you know she's ready for something like

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this um it's exciting it's exhilarating but at

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the same time i don't know you know if this is

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really for me and you know what's going to happen

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etc etc so that's very very smart just to be

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just be cool like that um did you did you go

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back again with her like yeah we want one more

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time yeah we want one more time and it was a

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lot of difference because she was very like bisexual

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so she always knew how to get a crowd of women

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together and okay yes yes very okay good deal

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i'm curious what when you guys left that night

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what was the conversation like on the way back

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home like was she all that interesting was she

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interested in how long you enjoyed or she was

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curious to see what i had to say about it one

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thing i could say She helped me understand as

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far as like non -judgment, not, you know, being

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judgmental and things like that. Understanding

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just what's going on, free spirited. And there's

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a people who don't judge. You know, you come

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into this environment, like people going to do

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what they do. And if you don't like it, don't

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partake in it. Just keep it moving. But I had

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a lot of questions. Yeah, if she was anything

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like my lady who introduced me over in Germany,

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she said that she saw something in me. And she

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knew that maybe not the first time when we went

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or the second, but there was something in me

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that was going to be able to adapt to that particular

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lifestyle and go from there. You know what I'm

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saying? So that's probably what she saw that

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in you, you know, when you guys first met and

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you talked. Yeah. i think she did a good job

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and she felt good that she was kind of like grooming

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me in a situation like that there you go there

00:17:01.460 --> 00:17:05.079
you go what i learned we like to go around with

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new candy you know and like in a lifestyle women

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like to you know meet guys and bring something

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new to the table to show up with their friends

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it was a guy or a comedian patrice o 'neill not

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sure if y 'all know yeah yeah but he made a statement

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one time like how i mean like the fish is like

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going fishing like you catch a few fish show

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them to your friends and throw them back in the

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water you know you say there's always a fish

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that want to stay in the boat exactly we love

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the hunt okay different game i can i need a different

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game every damn time you know what i'm saying

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exactly the same meal ain't gonna digest right

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You know what I'm talking about, right? Exactly,

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man. We need different media. Yeah. And I think

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that's what she was doing with me. Grooming me,

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showing me around. Oh, you can look for Kate

00:18:06.700 --> 00:18:11.339
Tess type of situation. Yeah. Unless she approve

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of it. You know, I'm just going along with the

00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:16.460
flow of things, not knowing how this works. Yeah.

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So when did she really unleash you? When did

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she know that she had a true bull here and she

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just, y 'all went somewhere and she just unleashed

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your ass? Nah, we just got cool from that. Like,

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she realized I can't be tame like that, you know,

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at all. Yeah, we just got cool and, you know,

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I started doing my thing and she was doing her

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thing because she stayed in another city. So

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that was another thing. Like, she was like an

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hour and a half away from where I resided. Yeah,

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that's how that worked. But she was cool. I see

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her around and everything. We still stayed in

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touch for like, what, a year and a half? Okay.

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But I always give her props, man. You know, she

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the one that got me into it. Excellent. Excellent.

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Yeah. I like that. And, you know, we're going

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to talk about handlers and people grooming. I

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think that everybody I've heard had that beginning.

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Just turns out. A quality bull. So let's get

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into that. So when did you start playing with

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couples? Really not too long after that, but

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it wasn't like strictly couples. It was just

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dibbling and dabbling here and there. Because

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I was on apps like Kick, things like Dead, Cassidy,

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some of those type of apps. And I would meet

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people on there. And it's groups you join, kind

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of like Telegram, things like that. You're in

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groups. And I used to travel a lot, you know,

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for work, which I do still. But for work, I travel

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a lot. And I join groups that's in the area,

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you know. And I see, you know, posts, people

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posting. I reach out. And first, it wasn't all

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about chemistry with me. It was all about fucking,

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you know, straight to the point. And then that's

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how I work. When I was out of town, I meet couples.

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And then I come in and meet a few couples, this

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and that. But at the time, I didn't have, what

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you want to say, I didn't have, like, a strategy.

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it was just okay i get the it's white cool you

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know uh just like that and a lot of them didn't

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even care to get to know you it was just hey

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you want to meet up here at this room you know

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it was later where i started meeting up at bars

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uh going you know public places to get to know

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each other you know going on multiple days before

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we even get to the sexual part of it and so yeah

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That's how I started, but it was a slow start

00:21:04.059 --> 00:21:06.380
to that point. At first, it would just fucking

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go. You'd probably see them next week and don't

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even know who they are. I want to talk about

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the multiple dates to get to know someone before

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you even play. And the reason why is because

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you struck me at the quality of experience that

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you give some of your couples that we talked

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about. And so... Lean in more into that. I really

00:21:32.769 --> 00:21:35.730
enjoyed you speaking about how well you take

00:21:35.730 --> 00:21:37.990
care of your couples and your philosophy about

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that. So dig into that. How does the whole dating

00:21:41.789 --> 00:21:48.470
process work for you now? Honestly, now it's

00:21:48.470 --> 00:21:51.069
a whole lot different from just from my experience

00:21:51.069 --> 00:21:56.329
in the situation. It's like, man, okay, I still

00:21:56.329 --> 00:21:59.869
have, you know. the wham bam thank you ma 'am

00:21:59.869 --> 00:22:04.589
moments but it's rare like it's like from my

00:22:04.589 --> 00:22:07.470
experience i got a good judgment of character

00:22:07.470 --> 00:22:11.069
now when observing people when communicate whether

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it be a text what is online or whether it's through

00:22:14.250 --> 00:22:17.970
phone conversation person it's like i get a feel

00:22:17.970 --> 00:22:22.569
of the situation and can tell you know the chemistry

00:22:22.569 --> 00:22:24.930
take control of itself and it's all you know

00:22:24.930 --> 00:22:27.569
it instantly like these good people I can you

00:22:27.569 --> 00:22:31.890
know um and they they feel it too it's like okay

00:22:31.890 --> 00:22:33.650
cool he seemed like you're pretty good I like

00:22:33.650 --> 00:22:36.750
the way he you know conversate I like the way

00:22:36.750 --> 00:22:39.430
he messaged you know it's all about staying in

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tune and actually not appearing as somebody who's

00:22:43.390 --> 00:22:46.750
just in it for one thing you know it's all about

00:22:46.750 --> 00:22:50.630
developing friendship connections you know looking

00:22:50.630 --> 00:22:52.589
at people as actual people you know what i'm

00:22:52.589 --> 00:22:56.650
saying because we're all important so um it's

00:22:56.650 --> 00:22:59.289
just when you meet people you go out here you

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go out there and it's like when they see you

00:23:02.150 --> 00:23:05.829
around other people who like you and take a like

00:23:05.829 --> 00:23:07.710
and they wonder what that is that they like about

00:23:07.710 --> 00:23:13.390
you and it's easier that way for people to judge

00:23:13.390 --> 00:23:16.470
your character or you know get a good sense that

00:23:16.470 --> 00:23:19.309
just a good person or whatever When they see

00:23:19.309 --> 00:23:22.210
people they're cool with, cool with you, it's

00:23:22.210 --> 00:23:26.910
like it just works. And it might be even better

00:23:26.910 --> 00:23:29.250
with these new people you meet than it is with

00:23:29.250 --> 00:23:31.910
the people you've been knowing. It's just, I

00:23:31.910 --> 00:23:33.809
can't even explain it. It just happened like

00:23:33.809 --> 00:23:38.130
that, man. And I meet up, you know, go on a date

00:23:38.130 --> 00:23:40.089
here and there. You got different couples with

00:23:40.089 --> 00:23:43.099
different dynamics. So it's like. my wife like

00:23:43.099 --> 00:23:45.920
this uh because i want to know about it i want

00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:48.420
to talk to the husband first i always greet the

00:23:48.420 --> 00:23:51.900
husband in situations that's why a lot of times

00:23:51.900 --> 00:23:54.900
i feel like i have a lot of success at it because

00:23:54.900 --> 00:23:57.279
i don't just walk up to the woman and you know

00:23:57.279 --> 00:23:59.220
if i see it with a guy i need to know who he

00:23:59.220 --> 00:24:02.779
is you know uh sometimes he's just a friend but

00:24:02.779 --> 00:24:06.079
in a lot of cases it's the husband that's how

00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:09.019
i look at it you know and i'll approach him how

00:24:09.019 --> 00:24:12.539
you doing i'm such a such and um And we go from

00:24:12.539 --> 00:24:16.000
now. And I might not even say much after I speak

00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:19.380
to her, you know, to her at all. It's all about

00:24:19.380 --> 00:24:22.440
what me and him can, you know, accomplish in

00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:25.660
a small amount of time. And that'll let me know

00:24:25.660 --> 00:24:28.440
how interested they are and where they stand.

00:24:29.059 --> 00:24:32.099
And it works a lot. It works, man. I ain't gonna

00:24:32.099 --> 00:24:35.160
lie. It's like a 90 -something percent chance

00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:38.119
that it's gonna go well. Lift you. Yes, sir.

00:24:38.220 --> 00:24:43.319
Hey. Oh. Lift you. Yes, sir. What did that sound

00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:47.319
like right there? Everything you just said. What,

00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:51.079
huh? You know, God damn well I was going to come

00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:55.359
in and say that. That's the question. What type

00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:59.779
of male did that sound like? Who do you know

00:24:59.779 --> 00:25:04.940
who just, God damn, I can't even get it out.

00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:10.670
Is that not a Sigma or what? Sigma. Yep. Sigma

00:25:10.670 --> 00:25:13.890
male. You say Sigma? Yes, sir. Yeah, Sigma, most

00:25:13.890 --> 00:25:16.289
definitely. Sigma male. Sigma male, that's it.

00:25:16.910 --> 00:25:20.930
That's a Sigma male. God damn, boy. A lot of

00:25:20.930 --> 00:25:23.150
people run around, say they alpha this, alpha

00:25:23.150 --> 00:25:28.170
that. No, I'm Sigma. 100. Preach. Preach, preach,

00:25:28.269 --> 00:25:31.690
preach. You have just been vetted on the Bull

00:25:31.690 --> 00:25:34.309
Brothers podcast. Welcome to the Sigma male.

00:25:35.769 --> 00:25:39.220
You're official now, bro. I appreciate that.

00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:42.640
God damn, boy, you just broke that shit down.

00:25:42.900 --> 00:25:46.339
You just broke it down. I'm sitting this way.

00:25:46.539 --> 00:25:52.099
God damn, I'm fat. Shit. It works like that,

00:25:52.099 --> 00:25:53.660
man. I want a little bit of credit for knowing

00:25:53.660 --> 00:26:00.420
how to pick them. You picked. You damn sure picked.

00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:05.640
You damn sure picked. He is vetted. He is vetted

00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:10.220
right here. Yeah. At 8, 12 Eastern time. Eastern

00:26:10.220 --> 00:26:15.140
Standard Time. Now we got to get you a t -shirt,

00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:17.900
man. Now we got to get you the t -shirt. Oh,

00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:22.039
yeah. Gotta get one. Gotta get one. You know,

00:26:22.059 --> 00:26:24.980
I'll be seeing y 'all real soon. Yep. Yep. Oh,

00:26:24.980 --> 00:26:29.400
man. Splashes around the corner. Yeah. Damn,

00:26:29.420 --> 00:26:31.599
we broke that shit down. That was beautiful.

00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:36.539
Beautiful. I have nothing to fucking say. You

00:26:36.539 --> 00:26:41.019
just damn said it. You just said it. Man, I enjoy

00:26:41.019 --> 00:26:43.319
being around, you know, couples, man. It's like,

00:26:43.460 --> 00:26:48.180
it's less stress when you're dealing with couples

00:26:48.180 --> 00:26:50.859
that know what they're doing in this and know,

00:26:50.859 --> 00:26:53.420
you know, know what they want from it and understand

00:26:53.420 --> 00:26:57.160
everything around it. You have some, don't get

00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:00.539
me wrong. The new ones kind of be hard. I like,

00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:05.329
I like, What I like, newbies, don't get me wrong,

00:27:05.509 --> 00:27:07.809
because, you know, we all been up before. But

00:27:07.809 --> 00:27:11.829
I like dealing with a man to an extent. The young

00:27:11.829 --> 00:27:13.710
newbies, they kind of hard because they don't

00:27:13.710 --> 00:27:16.170
know what they want for each other. It's like

00:27:16.170 --> 00:27:20.809
it's a push and pull game. It's like, OK, I want

00:27:20.809 --> 00:27:24.349
this, but I don't want to see him or vice versa

00:27:24.349 --> 00:27:26.829
the other way around. Like, I don't know. It's

00:27:26.829 --> 00:27:30.150
like. I don't see any way women feel like she's

00:27:30.150 --> 00:27:33.750
the only one supposed to be involved and he needs

00:27:33.750 --> 00:27:37.569
to stay out of the way or it's like when it's

00:27:37.569 --> 00:27:39.170
time for him to get his pleasure with a woman,

00:27:39.230 --> 00:27:42.210
it's like, no, no deal. You know, some of them

00:27:42.210 --> 00:27:43.910
agree to it. That's what they like and that's

00:27:43.910 --> 00:27:45.910
what it is. I just look at it and, you know,

00:27:45.970 --> 00:27:47.910
I don't really judge it. That's how they make

00:27:47.910 --> 00:27:51.089
it. It's cool. But I done seen some, like, when

00:27:51.089 --> 00:27:54.009
I'm playing with the wife and the guy just flip

00:27:54.009 --> 00:27:58.180
out. Not like... on me or make a scene but i

00:27:58.180 --> 00:28:00.779
can tell by his body language that he's you know

00:28:00.779 --> 00:28:04.099
very upset and he does things to stop the moment

00:28:04.099 --> 00:28:08.099
when she really enjoying the moment and he wasn't

00:28:08.099 --> 00:28:10.920
expecting this or even the small things like

00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:13.319
making a woman squirt and he probably never made

00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:18.390
a squirt and it's like wow this this energy shifted

00:28:18.390 --> 00:28:21.410
fast. It's like this whole thing that took a

00:28:21.410 --> 00:28:24.049
turn. And sometimes women can say things and

00:28:24.049 --> 00:28:25.990
piss them off, you know, piss the husband off

00:28:25.990 --> 00:28:28.910
or whatever. Like, why you can't make me do this?

00:28:28.910 --> 00:28:33.849
Or it's just, man, this crazy moment. And see,

00:28:33.970 --> 00:28:37.349
ladies and gentlemen, this is also a gentleman

00:28:37.349 --> 00:28:39.390
because here's one thing he hasn't said. We've

00:28:39.390 --> 00:28:41.809
been on this. We're recording for almost half

00:28:41.809 --> 00:28:45.940
an hour now. He will not tell you, and I'm surprised

00:28:45.940 --> 00:28:48.180
that Siren didn't mention this. Well, not yet.

00:28:48.259 --> 00:28:50.380
I'm waiting for the moment. But the moment's

00:28:50.380 --> 00:28:53.940
here. The motherfucker has a kickstand. I want

00:28:53.940 --> 00:28:55.720
to tell the story. The motherfucker has a kickstand.

00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:58.900
I want to tell the story. And he's gentlemanly

00:28:58.900 --> 00:29:02.119
enough not to include that into the point where

00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:05.059
the women are talking some crazy shit to their

00:29:05.059 --> 00:29:08.319
husband. And he's not going to tell you that

00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:12.099
including my game and my approach and my signal

00:29:12.099 --> 00:29:15.140
illness and I know how to carry myself and I

00:29:15.140 --> 00:29:18.319
got him smooth. I have a bazooka down there.

00:29:18.380 --> 00:29:22.200
He is gentleman enough not to say that. Yeah,

00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:24.859
well, I was waiting. You know me. I like to tell

00:29:24.859 --> 00:29:28.079
a story when I introduce the gentleman's dick.

00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:31.640
Right. So the first time in Houston, I think.

00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:33.740
I can't remember if it was our first time to

00:29:33.740 --> 00:29:36.460
Houston or our second. I can't remember. Um,

00:29:36.660 --> 00:29:42.200
but we played on like the Sunday and you know,

00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:44.900
he came up or whatever. And I was like, all right.

00:29:45.099 --> 00:29:48.400
And, and he took off his shorts and I turned

00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:51.859
around and I said, did you have to buy a wristband

00:29:51.859 --> 00:29:57.339
for him too? Because I was just like staying.

00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:02.220
I was like, I was like, I don't know how this

00:30:02.220 --> 00:30:05.099
is going to work. But it was great. And we have

00:30:05.099 --> 00:30:09.140
a good video of it, too. You figured out how

00:30:09.140 --> 00:30:11.380
it was going to work, didn't you? I did. It was

00:30:11.380 --> 00:30:14.019
great. And also, I want to point out one thing

00:30:14.019 --> 00:30:16.599
you said. Oh, just like a small thing, like making

00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:19.599
a woman squirt. Well, there's a lot of women

00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:24.960
that have never done it. I was damn near a month

00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:28.140
shy of 40 years old when I finally really squirted

00:30:28.140 --> 00:30:31.579
when Socrates and I got together. So, you know,

00:30:31.579 --> 00:30:34.400
some women like go their whole lives, you know,

00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:36.319
and I just thought I couldn't. I just was like,

00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:39.500
well, I'm not a squirter. Yeah, I'm a squirter.

00:30:39.539 --> 00:30:43.440
What are you talking about squirting? A lot of

00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:46.000
women have never had a damn orgasm. Yeah. Whether

00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:50.539
vaginal or clitoral. Yeah. Okay. So he's packing,

00:30:51.900 --> 00:30:57.420
as the name says, black magic, all right? No

00:30:57.420 --> 00:31:02.519
doubt. I try to keep the mystery, man. I don't

00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:05.200
know how you don't pass out. As you should, brother.

00:31:05.380 --> 00:31:08.519
When you get an erection, where's the blood for

00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:12.140
the rest of your body? I just don't know. Yeah,

00:31:12.140 --> 00:31:17.680
but they never had. If they've never had that

00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:21.019
type of orgasm, that vaginal orgasm from deep

00:31:21.019 --> 00:31:25.640
penetration, okay, then they're having an out

00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:28.200
-of -body fucking experience and the husband

00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:30.900
has never seen his wife like that, you know?

00:31:31.140 --> 00:31:36.200
And that can fuck a man's psyche up if he's never

00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:37.960
seen her like that before, especially when she

00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.359
starts, I call it, going into the twilight zone

00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.619
and getting dickomatized. she starts seeing different

00:31:45.619 --> 00:31:49.079
like you said like black magic she starts you

00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:51.579
know getting purple and and and you know the

00:31:51.579 --> 00:31:54.279
body starts she can't control her damn body she

00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:58.059
can't control her yeah it will a man up if he's

00:31:58.059 --> 00:32:01.380
never seen him yeah so keep doing keep doing

00:32:01.380 --> 00:32:03.420
what you're doing brother keep bringing it yeah

00:32:03.420 --> 00:32:06.579
all i can do is do what i can man what i was

00:32:06.579 --> 00:32:10.019
blessed with and you know that's it but a lot

00:32:10.019 --> 00:32:12.079
of it ain't always a fortunate thing i can tell

00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:15.039
you that I've been in some situations where it

00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.160
got all the way to the moment it got shut down.

00:32:18.059 --> 00:32:21.059
Like, that's one of the things of not telling

00:32:21.059 --> 00:32:23.519
them, you know, it should be a warning before

00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:27.079
destruction. But sometimes, you know, I try to

00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:31.420
ease my way in that, you know. Literally. Because,

00:32:32.539 --> 00:32:35.240
like, newbies, when they see it, it's like, oh,

00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.559
no, this is not going to work, God. i'm like

00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:40.859
you ain't even tried like you would try well

00:32:40.859 --> 00:32:43.640
you know can i can i well i think we talked about

00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:46.299
it on the dick matrix but let me you know just

00:32:46.299 --> 00:32:49.319
kind of share this has been my experience is

00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:55.740
there is certain dicks that are say like 10 inches

00:32:55.740 --> 00:33:00.819
i don't know what that is five six inches around

00:33:00.819 --> 00:33:03.559
or something and they get hard as a fucking rock

00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:07.630
concrete OK, and then there are some really big

00:33:07.630 --> 00:33:10.630
dicks. They don't get like that. And what women

00:33:10.630 --> 00:33:13.630
have to understand is it's like they get an erection

00:33:13.630 --> 00:33:16.869
and they can fuck the shit out of you. But it's

00:33:16.869 --> 00:33:21.569
not like that concrete feeling. It's it feels

00:33:21.569 --> 00:33:24.069
really good. It's like there's this like that

00:33:24.069 --> 00:33:26.609
concrete dick is inside there and then they have

00:33:26.609 --> 00:33:29.750
all this extra dick meat. You know how we have

00:33:29.750 --> 00:33:33.269
fat pussies? They have like fat dicks. So it's.

00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:37.240
It feels good, actually. It's not painful. Like,

00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.839
you think this huge dick is just going to rip

00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:42.140
you to shreds. Well, it doesn't feel like that.

00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.240
And that's been my experience with some of these

00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:47.960
guys that you look at and you're frightened,

00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:54.200
is it's not tear you up hard. It feels good.

00:33:54.339 --> 00:33:55.980
I don't know. You're just going to have to try

00:33:55.980 --> 00:34:00.079
it. I promise you it's not. As terrifying as

00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.319
it looks. It's really a good time. Y 'all listening,

00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:05.400
ladies? Yeah, because when I met you, that was

00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:11.099
the biggest one I had seen in a minute. And so

00:34:11.099 --> 00:34:15.320
I was like, whew, okay. But I was like, oh, this

00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.380
feels really enjoyable. Like the whole time.

00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:21.440
So, you know, it wasn't like that. It wasn't

00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:24.039
like he's not tearing you up. You know, you need

00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:27.320
to go to the ER afterwards. It was enjoyable.

00:34:28.219 --> 00:34:31.179
So I just want to put that word out there for

00:34:31.179 --> 00:34:36.619
the ginormous. Yeah, I appreciate it because

00:34:36.619 --> 00:34:39.019
that's what I try to make it, you know, enjoyable.

00:34:40.219 --> 00:34:43.119
Not try to rip you apart and all that. I like

00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:46.800
to make it good for everybody, you know. That's

00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:50.420
why we've played at least four times because

00:34:50.420 --> 00:34:56.880
it is a good time. Nephew, what is he? What is

00:34:56.880 --> 00:35:01.500
it from former episodes? A pleasure what? Dumb.

00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:04.599
A pleasure provider. A pleasure provider, that's

00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:07.780
right. A pleasure provider, that's what it is.

00:35:08.219 --> 00:35:10.800
My best moments would be like one -on -one sessions.

00:35:10.980 --> 00:35:13.880
I love a good one -on -one session. Amen. Because

00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:18.639
the way I am, my mind, like I tried the gangbang

00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:24.739
and all, I can't, like, it just, I can't. there's

00:35:24.739 --> 00:35:27.920
a lot of reasons you know um yeah i can't sit

00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.940
down with my dick in my hand waiting and i don't

00:35:30.940 --> 00:35:35.019
i'm not good with all that and just distraction

00:35:35.019 --> 00:35:37.760
i guess i'm adhd or whatever you want to call

00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:40.960
it but i'm easily distracted to while i got to

00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:44.559
be in tune with the individual you know to just

00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:47.860
really do good you know if i'm not mentally there

00:35:47.860 --> 00:35:53.099
everything else is just like And I know you kind

00:35:53.099 --> 00:35:59.079
of, oh, sorry, our last episode. I had no complaints.

00:35:59.340 --> 00:36:01.780
I know you didn't feel like you was 100. No,

00:36:01.780 --> 00:36:06.019
no, it was like the thing that happened. At first

00:36:06.019 --> 00:36:08.699
it was good, but I'm talking about the last of

00:36:08.699 --> 00:36:14.389
it. I may have been too far. He left out and

00:36:14.389 --> 00:36:18.309
the other girl came in. This other girl came

00:36:18.309 --> 00:36:21.409
in and she was just watching and then he got

00:36:21.409 --> 00:36:23.469
turned off because she wasn't participating.

00:36:23.789 --> 00:36:27.190
She was just staring at us. I had the same incident

00:36:27.190 --> 00:36:30.309
with this person before. They knew what they

00:36:30.309 --> 00:36:33.380
were doing. He's trying to fuck your game up.

00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.360
I still have time. Yeah, exactly. No, literally.

00:36:37.619 --> 00:36:41.719
Yeah. Literally. Yeah. It's all right. We can

00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:44.980
try again next time I see you. No big deal. No

00:36:44.980 --> 00:36:46.380
big deal. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. I'll be

00:36:46.380 --> 00:36:49.760
down again. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. Yeah.

00:36:51.539 --> 00:36:53.960
But, yeah, when it comes to couples, too, I do

00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:57.239
like to say this, man, because you got some couples

00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:01.769
where the husband may be. too thirsty for the

00:37:01.769 --> 00:37:05.929
wife to get pleasure and it was like a moment

00:37:05.929 --> 00:37:08.429
I had not too long ago where I was pleased well

00:37:08.429 --> 00:37:10.309
I thought they was married come to find out they

00:37:10.309 --> 00:37:12.929
wasn't married to each other because right after

00:37:12.929 --> 00:37:15.110
it was done she started asking for my number

00:37:15.110 --> 00:37:18.590
and I was only communicating with him all the

00:37:18.590 --> 00:37:22.440
way up until the point and After they were done,

00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:24.599
she wanted my number specifically. I'm like,

00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:26.840
well, you can go through him. If he approve of

00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:29.659
it, then it's good, you know. And she's like,

00:37:29.780 --> 00:37:31.739
no, we're not together like that. We've only

00:37:31.739 --> 00:37:33.659
been dating for like three months or whatever.

00:37:33.900 --> 00:37:36.260
I'm like, I don't think he out married. But,

00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:39.260
you know, I was like, he was like, oh, now y

00:37:39.260 --> 00:37:42.630
'all trying to leave me out? I'm like, no, whatever

00:37:42.630 --> 00:37:45.989
y 'all got going on, y 'all discuss that. But

00:37:45.989 --> 00:37:47.949
she ain't got to worry about me trying to undercut

00:37:47.949 --> 00:37:51.110
and get with her without you. Y 'all figure that

00:37:51.110 --> 00:37:55.230
out. But, yeah, you got some crazy situations

00:37:55.230 --> 00:37:58.110
that occur. My brother, I think it's safe to

00:37:58.110 --> 00:38:02.210
say that you would be a pretty damn good male

00:38:02.210 --> 00:38:05.710
companion, i .e. escort, out there in the world.

00:38:06.309 --> 00:38:09.590
I wish I would have had you with me. How old

00:38:09.590 --> 00:38:11.489
are you, by the way? If you don't mind me asking.

00:38:11.510 --> 00:38:17.070
I'm 44. I'm 44. 44. Well, boy. Well, you were

00:38:17.070 --> 00:38:18.710
too young then when I was over there in Germany

00:38:18.710 --> 00:38:21.630
doing my thing. But, you know, I would have loved

00:38:21.630 --> 00:38:24.030
to have maybe had you over there a few years

00:38:24.030 --> 00:38:29.170
after the fact. That's where I need to be. We

00:38:29.170 --> 00:38:31.670
would have had a great time because you definitely

00:38:31.670 --> 00:38:34.690
check off all the blocks. Definitely check off

00:38:34.690 --> 00:38:37.110
all the blocks. Well, you know what? I mean.

00:38:37.710 --> 00:38:41.309
He we're going to be throwing some parties coming

00:38:41.309 --> 00:38:44.809
soon. So we definitely, you know, a lot of the

00:38:44.809 --> 00:38:47.210
gentlemen that come on the show, they are top

00:38:47.210 --> 00:38:49.909
notch. I wouldn't invite him if they weren't.

00:38:50.730 --> 00:38:52.949
Mr. Morgan wouldn't invite him if they weren't.

00:38:53.130 --> 00:38:55.730
Siren wouldn't invite him if they weren't. These

00:38:55.730 --> 00:38:57.429
are going to be a lot of the gentlemen that we

00:38:57.429 --> 00:39:00.329
invite to some of our parties that are, you know,

00:39:00.329 --> 00:39:04.190
either our personal parties or Bull Brotherhood

00:39:04.190 --> 00:39:07.280
sponsored parties or. you know, siren or freedom

00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:09.579
parties, whatever. So it's definitely something,

00:39:09.619 --> 00:39:11.599
you know, we're going to be talking to you about

00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:15.340
in the future. So tell me this, Mr. Black Magic,

00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:18.320
how'd you get that name? Oh, that's a good question.

00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:21.300
I don't even think I remember. Actually, man,

00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:24.139
just to be honest, it was just real simple. I

00:39:24.139 --> 00:39:29.480
was doing an account. I can't remember what site

00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:31.860
it was. And you got to come with a username.

00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:36.820
I came up with black magic and stuck with it.

00:39:37.219 --> 00:39:43.780
I just stuck with it. And that's, you know, what

00:39:43.780 --> 00:39:47.039
carried me through. It's fitting. It's fitting.

00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:51.420
It was funny because at one time I was calling

00:39:51.420 --> 00:39:55.239
myself Socrates. Because I used to read a lot

00:39:55.239 --> 00:40:00.039
of philosophy and I love, yes, I love. So you

00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:02.760
were stoic as well. It was actually black Socrates.

00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:06.519
Black Socrates. I thought of that. I was thinking

00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:09.619
that. I was going to do Black Socrates. I was

00:40:09.619 --> 00:40:11.519
this close to doing Black Socrates. I was like,

00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:14.199
but that's too long. Socrates is long enough

00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:17.739
for me. That's too long of a name. Man, I love

00:40:17.739 --> 00:40:23.760
philosophy. I read philosophy a lot. That's kind

00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:26.300
of going along with free spirit, free thinking.

00:40:26.739 --> 00:40:31.639
Those are all free thinkers, man. Sacrifice,

00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:35.760
Plato, Aristotle, I love. It's just something

00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:38.059
about once I get in tune into those subjects,

00:40:38.099 --> 00:40:41.199
it takes me every while. Are you a Stoic as well?

00:40:41.420 --> 00:40:45.159
Yes, yes. I love all this here. Who's your favorite

00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:47.699
Stoic? I'm just more into the Stoicism, just

00:40:47.699 --> 00:40:51.500
the readings of it, and just listening to it

00:40:51.500 --> 00:40:54.619
on, like, channels or whatever. I just like listening

00:40:54.619 --> 00:40:57.179
to it. That's what's up. There's a good book

00:40:57.179 --> 00:41:02.349
called The Obstacle is the Way. He is a stoic.

00:41:02.670 --> 00:41:05.989
The author, I can't remember. I'll send you a

00:41:05.989 --> 00:41:09.769
link. It'll be in the show notes for sure. But

00:41:09.769 --> 00:41:16.010
he is a great stoic representative. All of his

00:41:16.010 --> 00:41:18.349
books, he's written seven books, but several,

00:41:18.449 --> 00:41:21.650
not seven, several. And it's all based on stoicism.

00:41:22.110 --> 00:41:27.090
And which I think really guides me as a bull

00:41:27.090 --> 00:41:31.050
as well is being stoic. I'm not always stoic,

00:41:31.050 --> 00:41:33.690
but it's a discipline that I've committed myself

00:41:33.690 --> 00:41:39.489
to. Does the philosophy, my favorite, who is

00:41:39.489 --> 00:41:42.909
your favorite modern -day philosopher, and how

00:41:42.909 --> 00:41:48.650
has that flushed itself out or manifested itself

00:41:48.650 --> 00:41:51.690
in lifestyle? I don't have a modern -day philosopher.

00:41:52.650 --> 00:41:56.510
I'm still with the traditionals. Aristotle was

00:41:56.510 --> 00:42:01.059
one of the more ones I was. Outside of Socrates,

00:42:01.500 --> 00:42:09.119
Plato, it was Aristotle. And I don't know how

00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:11.519
to pronounce it. I think that's how you pronounce

00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:13.679
it. That's the way I like to pronounce it, like

00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:17.360
Neil Atmerary. It's like never a mile, marvel

00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:22.039
at nothing. And I kind of live by that, you know,

00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:26.019
through our life. Like Neil Atmerary. Like N

00:42:26.019 --> 00:42:32.849
-I -L -A -D. M -I -R -A -R -I or whatever. But

00:42:32.849 --> 00:42:37.409
it definitely means never admire or marvel at

00:42:37.409 --> 00:42:41.929
nothing. Gotcha. Like, don't be excited by this

00:42:41.929 --> 00:42:45.349
or this or, you know. How has what you've learned

00:42:45.349 --> 00:42:49.190
in philosophy translated to the way you are as

00:42:49.190 --> 00:42:52.590
a bull or as a play partner? Well, let me give

00:42:52.590 --> 00:42:54.389
you an example. So one of my favorite modern

00:42:54.389 --> 00:42:58.960
philosophers is Adler. I wrote a book. I mean,

00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:03.460
I read a book recently. It's called The Courage

00:43:03.460 --> 00:43:06.239
to be Disliked. And one of the principles it

00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:11.000
talks about is horizontal leadership versus vertical.

00:43:11.539 --> 00:43:15.039
And vertical leadership is based on hierarchies,

00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:18.219
right? So this guy's above you and this person

00:43:18.219 --> 00:43:20.420
above you and that person's. Whereas vertical

00:43:20.420 --> 00:43:23.440
or horizontal leadership is we're all on the

00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:26.000
same plane, right? I just have a different job

00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:29.780
to do. Yes, exactly. I'm a CEO in my personal

00:43:29.780 --> 00:43:32.840
life. I'm an entrepreneur in my personal life.

00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:37.159
But the lowest person in my company, in my mind,

00:43:37.179 --> 00:43:41.900
is equal. Does that make sense? Exactly. Yes,

00:43:42.179 --> 00:43:45.619
most definitely. So when Unc is teaching me things

00:43:45.619 --> 00:43:49.440
like being a pleasure provider, some people look

00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:52.199
at that as, oh, you're being submissive or you're

00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.840
worried about the woman. No. Or if I consider

00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:59.039
myself a dominant or if I consider myself a leader,

00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:01.659
that doesn't mean I'm over you. That doesn't

00:44:01.659 --> 00:44:03.760
mean I'm more important than you are. It means

00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:08.519
this is the role or position or framework I'm

00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:10.239
going to play because this is what I believe

00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:14.239
in. You're equal to me and your role is a submissive

00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:18.179
or a bottom or somebody that I'm just being equally

00:44:18.179 --> 00:44:22.320
in a room trying to give and get pleasure, right?

00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.960
That just defines our roles. But I'm never, ever

00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:28.760
above you. And it also makes you feel like, you

00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:30.280
know, I don't care who you are. You could be

00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:32.260
the president. You could be a billionaire. You

00:44:32.260 --> 00:44:34.139
could be whoever. You're not above me either.

00:44:34.300 --> 00:44:37.880
Right. So it's about seeing everybody as equal,

00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:40.780
even in the positions where there's hierarchical

00:44:40.780 --> 00:44:44.360
structures. So for me, it's like in lifestyle,

00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:46.920
we had a debate with some friends. You know,

00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:49.099
we call it the triangle debate. That'll come

00:44:49.099 --> 00:44:52.179
out soon. And I was like, everybody's equal.

00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:56.860
100 % in their responsibility and their challenges

00:44:56.860 --> 00:45:00.460
and the struggle to overcome any kind of challenges,

00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:03.840
right? That's why it's horizontal. There is no.

00:45:04.059 --> 00:45:07.440
So have you had anything that you've learned

00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.699
in philosophy that you feel like translated into

00:45:10.699 --> 00:45:13.500
being a better bull? Yes. I mean, I ain't going

00:45:13.500 --> 00:45:16.800
to lie. In that situation, every day is something

00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:21.079
that just by studying that philosophy. tell me

00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:24.880
to adapt into this lifestyle it's because it's

00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:28.280
still the same thing as far as our walk you know

00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:32.039
it's just when it comes to understanding people

00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:38.260
it comes a long way in helping to identify and

00:45:38.260 --> 00:45:41.500
associate better you know when i feel like being

00:45:41.500 --> 00:45:44.320
a good listener is one of the most things you

00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:49.780
could do you know man i sit back I mean, when

00:45:49.780 --> 00:45:52.619
I was young, I was like this. When I was young,

00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.340
I was kind of some kind of way got myself involved

00:45:55.340 --> 00:45:59.719
with older women. And I listen. They know more

00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:01.579
than me. I'm not going to act like I know more

00:46:01.579 --> 00:46:04.260
than them. I'm almost a teenager still. It's

00:46:04.260 --> 00:46:07.099
like I listen to women, you know, because I learn

00:46:07.099 --> 00:46:09.440
from listening. And they believe we had a good

00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:11.480
conversation after I was talking. They did. And

00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:14.219
I ain't said nothing just because I listen. And,

00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:17.619
you know, we both came out on top in the situation.

00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:22.599
um because now siren i do know you here so you

00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:28.559
can agree that women love to talk most but most

00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:33.340
i will say yes we do like to talk in my ladies

00:46:33.340 --> 00:46:35.340
group i have a siren of freedom ladies group

00:46:35.340 --> 00:46:39.739
i do not let them railroad any men in that group

00:46:39.739 --> 00:46:42.619
so there will be ladies hey do you know this

00:46:42.619 --> 00:46:45.579
guy like what do you know about him and i say

00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:48.800
If you haven't played with him and he didn't,

00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:53.840
maybe he wasn't the right fit for you, but you

00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:56.139
aren't allowed to do a bunch of negativity on

00:46:56.139 --> 00:46:59.820
there. So positive reviews only, unless if it's

00:46:59.820 --> 00:47:02.380
someone who maybe something unsafe happened,

00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:04.260
then we need to bring it to the gentlemen of

00:47:04.260 --> 00:47:07.320
the community. right away instead of talking

00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:09.360
about it so i don't let them just get on there

00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:11.760
and say i didn't like this guy and his breath

00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:14.840
was bad and shit like that i don't i don't let

00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:18.079
it happen and um and there's another gal on there

00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:21.320
that is my moderator and she you know she'll

00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:23.659
make sure of that too so if she don't catch you

00:47:23.659 --> 00:47:26.260
i will and then if you try more than once then

00:47:26.260 --> 00:47:29.159
you're out so we try to keep it positive but

00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:33.779
but yeah we do chat about what we like and I

00:47:33.779 --> 00:47:37.119
heard about your group. Yeah? What'd you hear?

00:47:37.260 --> 00:47:40.519
Yeah. I didn't know. You never told me about

00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:42.039
it. I heard it through other women. I'm like,

00:47:42.139 --> 00:47:44.480
oh, she got a group for women only? Okay, cool.

00:47:45.820 --> 00:47:47.719
Yeah. Interesting. We have fun, too. But no,

00:47:47.739 --> 00:47:50.519
I heard good things about it. Yeah. We try to

00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:53.179
keep it fun and keep it positive. The other day

00:47:53.179 --> 00:47:56.260
we did, you know, I said, you know, post a picture

00:47:56.260 --> 00:47:59.139
of a favorite thing about your body and tell

00:47:59.139 --> 00:48:01.079
us why you love it, whether it's something that...

00:48:01.230 --> 00:48:03.949
you know it's strong and you know it does this

00:48:03.949 --> 00:48:07.170
or you know you feel like it's what makes you

00:48:07.170 --> 00:48:08.929
beautiful or whatever and it was just a really

00:48:08.929 --> 00:48:11.170
good it was probably one of the most participated

00:48:11.170 --> 00:48:15.110
in you know things and then um the other moderator

00:48:15.110 --> 00:48:20.690
she had us do a day where we uh spoke about our

00:48:20.690 --> 00:48:22.829
weekend and kind of like old english language

00:48:22.829 --> 00:48:27.940
it was hilarious you know yeah i was like A fortnight

00:48:27.940 --> 00:48:32.059
ago, I was on my journey to the great country

00:48:32.059 --> 00:48:35.340
of Texas, you know. It was fun. So we just tried

00:48:35.340 --> 00:48:37.960
to do something fun every couple days in there.

00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:42.420
It's fun. Post pictures and stuff too? No, we're

00:48:42.420 --> 00:48:44.820
not. I mean, it's a bunch of women. So, you know,

00:48:44.820 --> 00:48:46.980
unless we're doing something like the body positivity

00:48:46.980 --> 00:48:49.360
thing, we don't really post a bunch of pictures.

00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:53.719
You know, like nothing scandalous and usually.

00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:56.599
you know once in a while we don't have like the

00:48:56.599 --> 00:48:59.480
stuff that is in the the you know the groups

00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:02.380
that has everybody in it um we try to keep it

00:49:02.380 --> 00:49:06.420
mostly to talking and you know i never shut anyone

00:49:06.420 --> 00:49:09.719
down from posting something you know but in general

00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:11.460
when it's all just a bunch of women in the room

00:49:11.460 --> 00:49:13.860
like we're not trying to we're not trying to

00:49:13.860 --> 00:49:18.300
show off to each other you know so yeah or we

00:49:18.300 --> 00:49:22.400
did like hey everybody post your favorite song

00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.039
that you're just rocking to right now. Like let's,

00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:26.980
you know, help each other build some awesome

00:49:26.980 --> 00:49:29.340
playlists or, you know, or a woman will have

00:49:29.340 --> 00:49:32.599
a question or, you know, about, or sexual health

00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:36.079
topics that we get into, you know, about different

00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:39.179
things that will help women, um, stuff like that.

00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:42.559
So it's, it's, it's really good. Yeah. I've been

00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:47.400
enjoying it. Yeah. That's what's up. And Sacrifice,

00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:52.260
you said something. When I met you, what you

00:49:52.260 --> 00:49:55.500
said kind of, you know, let me know, man. We

00:49:55.500 --> 00:49:58.420
think on the same plane in a lot of areas. And,

00:49:58.460 --> 00:50:01.460
like, how you just, you know, being social. Like,

00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:03.760
it ain't about going to see who you're going

00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.159
to have sex with or how many women. You know,

00:50:06.219 --> 00:50:08.239
like how you say you just go places. You don't

00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:10.940
even have it on mind. It's a natural thing that

00:50:10.940 --> 00:50:13.739
occurs. You don't have to look for it. It's there.

00:50:14.260 --> 00:50:17.159
It'll happen. It ain't. Like, if you go somewhere

00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:19.719
and don't have sex, it's not a big, it ain't

00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:21.840
even about that no more. I don't know if it got

00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:25.199
to do with age or what, but maturity for sure.

00:50:26.780 --> 00:50:29.119
It's just like, yeah, you just go places. A lot

00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:30.860
of people you go out with, they're like, man,

00:50:30.980 --> 00:50:33.500
I want to know what it's going to be like. It's

00:50:33.500 --> 00:50:35.760
a DTF. If it ain't that, I don't want to come.

00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:38.460
I don't even think like that no more. It's more

00:50:38.460 --> 00:50:41.059
like. Man, I'm coming to have a good time being

00:50:41.059 --> 00:50:44.260
social or whatever. If I walk out of there and

00:50:44.260 --> 00:50:46.099
nothing happened, at least I know I had a good

00:50:46.099 --> 00:50:49.860
time being married, you know? And, yeah. My brother,

00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:52.280
that's called evolution. I talk about it all

00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:56.320
the time. You are evolving as a person, a man,

00:50:56.320 --> 00:51:00.619
and a bull. All right? I applaud that. I applaud

00:51:00.619 --> 00:51:02.840
you. I thoroughly enjoyed listening to you tonight.

00:51:03.300 --> 00:51:05.480
Hell, I think I got family in Houston, Texas

00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:09.460
now. god damn more definitely man you ever come

00:51:09.460 --> 00:51:13.039
down feel free to reach out you just broke down

00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:16.820
what a sigma male is you know it's very rare

00:51:16.820 --> 00:51:19.699
that you meet one that is that is uh living the

00:51:19.699 --> 00:51:23.019
life the same way as another you know but you

00:51:23.019 --> 00:51:25.280
are definitely doing that definitely doing that

00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:28.000
it is a pleasure as far as i'm concerned you

00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:31.039
are on the uh on the special guest host list

00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:35.909
from now on okay I appreciate that. Yeah, definitely.

00:51:36.309 --> 00:51:40.010
Definitely. Yeah. I want this to be the last

00:51:40.010 --> 00:51:42.309
time. So, yeah. Oh, no, it definitely will not.

00:51:42.809 --> 00:51:45.030
It definitely will not. Believe me. Trust and

00:51:45.030 --> 00:51:48.250
believe it will not. It will not. Nephew. Right

00:51:48.250 --> 00:51:51.690
on. Yes, sir. Nephew, are you there? Yes, sir.

00:51:52.030 --> 00:51:54.610
All right. I'm sitting there looking at the time.

00:51:54.969 --> 00:51:57.429
I'm timing it just right because my phone is

00:51:57.429 --> 00:52:02.690
about dead. Okay. It's about dead. I hate to

00:52:02.690 --> 00:52:04.650
cut it off, but we might have to have a part

00:52:04.650 --> 00:52:08.190
two for this one, all right? Oh, yeah. All right,

00:52:08.289 --> 00:52:10.449
then. Look here, ladies and gentlemen, it has

00:52:10.449 --> 00:52:13.389
indeed been a pleasure to sit here and listen

00:52:13.389 --> 00:52:16.349
to the one and only Black Magic out of Houston,

00:52:16.469 --> 00:52:20.090
Texas. And he will definitely be back as a special

00:52:20.090 --> 00:52:22.670
guest host for the Boy Brotherhood in the very

00:52:22.670 --> 00:52:24.969
near future. And let me do something that I don't

00:52:24.969 --> 00:52:27.650
usually do. I'm going to give out my social media

00:52:27.650 --> 00:52:30.690
handles to the people out there listening. If

00:52:30.690 --> 00:52:34.690
you want to email me, you can email me at sigmamail3390

00:52:34.690 --> 00:52:39.110
at gmail .com. I am on Instagram, bmorgan3390,

00:52:39.409 --> 00:52:44.690
and Twitter at sigmamail1227. Until we meet again,

00:52:44.809 --> 00:52:45.949
y 'all, good night.
