Even the small things like making a woman squirt,
and he probably never made her squirt. And it's
like, wow, this energy shifted fast. It's like
this whole thing that took a turn. And sometimes
women can say things and piss them off, you know,
piss the husband off or whatever. Like, why you
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evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to
another exhilarating episode of the Bull Brotherhood
Podcast. I'm the one and only Sigma male, Brian
Morgan, coming at you. One third of the podcast
team and family, along with the beautiful and
lovely Siren. What's going on, beautiful? Hello.
Oh, that was good. And also the professional
student himself. Yeah, he didn't damn wait, but
that's okay. I'm introduced anyway, ladies and
gentlemen. The one and only Socrates. Hi, y 'all.
He's eager tonight. He's excited. It's been a
good day. Good, good. And ladies and gentlemen,
coming at us tonight from Houston, Texas, it's
a brother who, although I do not know very well
at all, Socrates and Siren, they have put, they
have actually vetted this man. Okay. And I'm
anxious to hear what he has to say about his
origin in the boy lifestyle. Again, coming at
us from Houston, Texas, I give you the one and
only Black Magic. What's up, big dog? Hey, what's
really going on out there today? All right, all
right. Love that Southern swag right there, that
Southern twang, you know? Me being from North
Carolina, we got the same thing. Oh, yeah. Oh,
yeah. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Well, look, ladies
and gentlemen, I'm going to turn the mic over
to my dog, Socrates, who's going to lead this
interview tonight here along with Siren. I will
chime in here and there. But no further ado,
Socrates and Siren, take it away. Yes, sir. Thank
you, man. Them intros, boy. We might have to
start charging people to do it. You want actually
a bomb -ass intro, you hit us up. I feel like
we needed to say, welcome to the stage, Black
Magic. Oh, yeah. I like that one a lot better.
I need to hear some genuine when you come out.
yeah they'll say that i was watching one of his
videos not too long ago and they was giving him
hell they were like this is not the gene wine
i know yeah oh yeah i saw that one yeah so we
just we want to get right into it man we were
at i think siren you have you met him before
this last party right Yeah, this party was my
third time interacting with him. Yeah, okay.
Five stars every time. Yeah, yeah. I already
heard the stories. Only three times? Oh, no,
four, four. Yeah, that one time. No, I remember
now. I remember now. So Houston, Splash. Then
the next Houston splash. Then Houston, my birthday
weekend. When you came and got me, we went to
that one party. And then this last weekend for
the other birthday party. So, yeah, four times.
Okay. Can you leave a little, you know, keep
them in suspense. They want to know, you know,
you giving it away. No, I'm not. Anyway. On my
end, y 'all, I'm going to be honest with you.
I don't keep up with, like, who's doing what.
And, you know, we'll sit down and say, what's
your favorite, this and that. I don't really
keep up. So I went down there this last time.
It was my first time going to, like, a private
event in Houston. Siren loves it down there,
you know. It was about to be her second home.
And I was down there, and I was helping out,
get the party going, you know. And, you know,
Mr. Magic comes in and he's helping out. He's
just like doing whatever he needs to do to help.
He was being the pool boy. He was being the pool
boy. But he was just, you know, wherever he needed
to be helped. I always just started talking.
And I'm, you know, I'm from the South, too, but
I grew up in L .A. So, yeah, I end up talking
to Mr. Magic and I was like. this brother got
some sense like he i like what he's talking about
and what caught my eye and let's let's let's
kick off the first question was how you talked
about the the playmates that you avoid and so
without getting into detail you know what got
you to the stage in your journey and we'll get
to the beginning of it in a minute but what got
you to the stage in your journey where you said,
you know what, I really need to start moving
from quantity to quality. I really need to start
being careful with who I end up giving my time
to and who I play with. That's a good question.
Actually, it really started when I realized I
was just, when pleasure becomes work, that's
how I want to say it. It's like when you're doing
things for fun and entertainment and then you
get to the point. and you sit back and think
it's like man why so much work behind having
a good time you know it's like when you kind
of new to it it's like okay you wouldn't go out
your way and you really not knowing what are
you doing you doing it but it's like you hear
to satisfy them you are you all of y 'all have
been satisfied from it and at first it was just
a um how could i put it it was just more of a
selfish behavior on my behalf or you know grief
and it's like okay i do this i do that and i
get and i'm all around the place you know and
thinking i'm accomplishing something when i'm
not and at the end of the day i'm like man it's
just too much going here going out it ain't matter
where i drive hours man it's just what it was
and it got to a point like nah this more like
work it's not even like I'm not satisfied from
the deal, you know. And it's like you're more
trying to meet other people's demand. And I'm
not much to supply. I like that. And I started
realizing, you know, the supply and demand, you
know. Yeah, I couldn't get what I was being demanded
of everywhere. You know, I'm one person. I wish
I could be three people at one time, but, you
know, it don't work like that. and that's when
i kind of started realizing like man this is
not fun like i want it to be so and i got to
the point of realizing you know it's more about
quality than just the number amount and even
my first time going to the place um where i first
met you it sorry um I want to say the name of
it. I'm not sure how that works. You can. You
can say it. Oh, okay. When I first went to Splash
Mocha, one of the times, well, I saw you at,
okay, it was like, it was a number game. The
first time I went, it was like to see how many
we could, you know, get in a day or two or a
whole weekend. And then I realized, wow, I was
one. They were like, man, you have to. pace yourself.
By Saturday, you will be winded and want to tap
out. I'm like, ain't no way. But yeah, it happens.
So the next time, you know, I got a few male
friends in the game that we kind of talk. You
know, we do a lot of things together and go out
and we plot on things on how we're going to go
about and execute this goal or whatever and see
who gets the most. But then the second time,
we're like, nah, we got to do this right, man.
We got to last the whole race, you know. And,
yeah, slowly but surely, I caught on. But the
quality and quantity thing, I've been caught
on to that. But when it came to that event. It
was so new to me that I was back on the, you
know, quantity exchange. And yeah, that's how
they work. I like that. I like that. I like that.
And so let's go back to the beginning of Mr.
Black Magic's journey towards being a quality
bull. What got you into the lifestyle, you know,
and tell us a story on what intrigued you about
it and what got you into it. Well, honestly,
it was more like I was dating this white woman.
But before that, I never dated one. You know,
I was just, you know, strictly on my kind or,
you know, I would mess with Mexican women or
whatever. But it got to a point, you know, I
gave it a shot. I heard all the good things,
but it was more like, let's really see what this
is about. And she ought to take me out on a date.
And I agreed. And I know where I would go. And,
you know, she took me to this place like abandoned
building. And we went inside and it was kind
of like sketchy. It was, you wouldn't know what
it was until you actually went further inside.
But just going in, checking in booth, it's just,
you know, a normal sitting. But it was no name.
to the building and none of that. So I'm like,
man, what is this? So once you check in or whatever,
and then you go inside. Once I went in, that
said enough right there. First thing I seen was
like, it was a woman on a stripper pole and it
was another woman on her knees. eating out so
it was like wow okay first time seeing this at
a club but i knew about them but i never been
i never knew even in houston that it exists i
thought you got to go out of state out the country
to see these type of things and it is right in
my face and i'm like wow and from that point
on it became a habit and i want to go out i want
to go here and you know everything that's dealing
with free sexual freedom You know, I mean, sexual
freedom. You know, and so it was fun. I stopped
going to vanilla clubs, you know, where they
just play music and drink. And I want to do things
that's more fun where you got more options. That's
what got me started. And when was that? I wasn't
even on. What year? Oh, that was like, that was
2015. Somewhere around there. Yeah. About 10
years. It's cracking me up because I'm like,
first time you go out with a white woman and
she takes you to some sketchy building with no
name on the door. You're like, what have I gotten
myself into? Yeah. What's going on here? But
it was interesting, man. And then it just became,
I mean, very fun. I forgot. I didn't realize
what I was missing all this time. Yeah. Man,
tell me about it. I'm glad I was open -minded
about it. Yeah, so what were your first thoughts?
Like, when you first walked in, what were you
thinking? You know, did you play that night?
Were you thinking, like, oh, my goodness, is
this real? You know, were you thinking, oh, my
goodness, I've been waiting for this? No. You
know, the whole night I was kind of just like,
oh, God. You know, I played with her. And it
was just observing things. I'm more of a voyeur.
I was right there in the midst of things happening.
And, you know, as far as this penetration -wise,
no, I didn't get much going on. She did. I played
with her. And, you know, I did a little fingering,
this and that. But as far as me penetrating,
no, not that day. It was just more trying to
play the role. You know, you try to be – you
got everything under control, you know. at all
don't lose yourself in the situation type and
that's how they went about but i was anxious
don't get me wrong i wanted to do a whole lot
but you know sounds like you were surveying the
scene though yeah yeah it was your first time
trying not to appear exactly as i tried not to
feel thirsty you know yeah yeah yeah and at the
same time you're saying yourself what the is
going on you know she's ready for something like
this um it's exciting it's exhilarating but at
the same time i don't know you know if this is
really for me and you know what's going to happen
etc etc so that's very very smart just to be
just be cool like that um did you did you go
back again with her like yeah we want one more
time yeah we want one more time and it was a
lot of difference because she was very like bisexual
so she always knew how to get a crowd of women
together and okay yes yes very okay good deal
i'm curious what when you guys left that night
what was the conversation like on the way back
home like was she all that interesting was she
interested in how long you enjoyed or she was
curious to see what i had to say about it one
thing i could say She helped me understand as
far as like non -judgment, not, you know, being
judgmental and things like that. Understanding
just what's going on, free spirited. And there's
a people who don't judge. You know, you come
into this environment, like people going to do
what they do. And if you don't like it, don't
partake in it. Just keep it moving. But I had
a lot of questions. Yeah, if she was anything
like my lady who introduced me over in Germany,
she said that she saw something in me. And she
knew that maybe not the first time when we went
or the second, but there was something in me
that was going to be able to adapt to that particular
lifestyle and go from there. You know what I'm
saying? So that's probably what she saw that
in you, you know, when you guys first met and
you talked. Yeah. i think she did a good job
and she felt good that she was kind of like grooming
me in a situation like that there you go there
you go what i learned we like to go around with
new candy you know and like in a lifestyle women
like to you know meet guys and bring something
new to the table to show up with their friends
it was a guy or a comedian patrice o 'neill not
sure if y 'all know yeah yeah but he made a statement
one time like how i mean like the fish is like
going fishing like you catch a few fish show
them to your friends and throw them back in the
water you know you say there's always a fish
that want to stay in the boat exactly we love
the hunt okay different game i can i need a different
game every damn time you know what i'm saying
exactly the same meal ain't gonna digest right
You know what I'm talking about, right? Exactly,
man. We need different media. Yeah. And I think
that's what she was doing with me. Grooming me,
showing me around. Oh, you can look for Kate
Tess type of situation. Yeah. Unless she approve
of it. You know, I'm just going along with the
flow of things, not knowing how this works. Yeah.
So when did she really unleash you? When did
she know that she had a true bull here and she
just, y 'all went somewhere and she just unleashed
your ass? Nah, we just got cool from that. Like,
she realized I can't be tame like that, you know,
at all. Yeah, we just got cool and, you know,
I started doing my thing and she was doing her
thing because she stayed in another city. So
that was another thing. Like, she was like an
hour and a half away from where I resided. Yeah,
that's how that worked. But she was cool. I see
her around and everything. We still stayed in
touch for like, what, a year and a half? Okay.
But I always give her props, man. You know, she
the one that got me into it. Excellent. Excellent.
Yeah. I like that. And, you know, we're going
to talk about handlers and people grooming. I
think that everybody I've heard had that beginning.
Just turns out. A quality bull. So let's get
into that. So when did you start playing with
couples? Really not too long after that, but
it wasn't like strictly couples. It was just
dibbling and dabbling here and there. Because
I was on apps like Kick, things like Dead, Cassidy,
some of those type of apps. And I would meet
people on there. And it's groups you join, kind
of like Telegram, things like that. You're in
groups. And I used to travel a lot, you know,
for work, which I do still. But for work, I travel
a lot. And I join groups that's in the area,
you know. And I see, you know, posts, people
posting. I reach out. And first, it wasn't all
about chemistry with me. It was all about fucking,
you know, straight to the point. And then that's
how I work. When I was out of town, I meet couples.
And then I come in and meet a few couples, this
and that. But at the time, I didn't have, what
you want to say, I didn't have, like, a strategy.
it was just okay i get the it's white cool you
know uh just like that and a lot of them didn't
even care to get to know you it was just hey
you want to meet up here at this room you know
it was later where i started meeting up at bars
uh going you know public places to get to know
each other you know going on multiple days before
we even get to the sexual part of it and so yeah
That's how I started, but it was a slow start
to that point. At first, it would just fucking
go. You'd probably see them next week and don't
even know who they are. I want to talk about
the multiple dates to get to know someone before
you even play. And the reason why is because
you struck me at the quality of experience that
you give some of your couples that we talked
about. And so... Lean in more into that. I really
enjoyed you speaking about how well you take
care of your couples and your philosophy about
that. So dig into that. How does the whole dating
process work for you now? Honestly, now it's
a whole lot different from just from my experience
in the situation. It's like, man, okay, I still
have, you know. the wham bam thank you ma 'am
moments but it's rare like it's like from my
experience i got a good judgment of character
now when observing people when communicate whether
it be a text what is online or whether it's through
phone conversation person it's like i get a feel
of the situation and can tell you know the chemistry
take control of itself and it's all you know
it instantly like these good people I can you
know um and they they feel it too it's like okay
cool he seemed like you're pretty good I like
the way he you know conversate I like the way
he messaged you know it's all about staying in
tune and actually not appearing as somebody who's
just in it for one thing you know it's all about
developing friendship connections you know looking
at people as actual people you know what i'm
saying because we're all important so um it's
just when you meet people you go out here you
go out there and it's like when they see you
around other people who like you and take a like
and they wonder what that is that they like about
you and it's easier that way for people to judge
your character or you know get a good sense that
just a good person or whatever When they see
people they're cool with, cool with you, it's
like it just works. And it might be even better
with these new people you meet than it is with
the people you've been knowing. It's just, I
can't even explain it. It just happened like
that, man. And I meet up, you know, go on a date
here and there. You got different couples with
different dynamics. So it's like. my wife like
this uh because i want to know about it i want
to talk to the husband first i always greet the
husband in situations that's why a lot of times
i feel like i have a lot of success at it because
i don't just walk up to the woman and you know
if i see it with a guy i need to know who he
is you know uh sometimes he's just a friend but
in a lot of cases it's the husband that's how
i look at it you know and i'll approach him how
you doing i'm such a such and um And we go from
now. And I might not even say much after I speak
to her, you know, to her at all. It's all about
what me and him can, you know, accomplish in
a small amount of time. And that'll let me know
how interested they are and where they stand.
And it works a lot. It works, man. I ain't gonna
lie. It's like a 90 -something percent chance
that it's gonna go well. Lift you. Yes, sir.
Hey. Oh. Lift you. Yes, sir. What did that sound
like right there? Everything you just said. What,
huh? You know, God damn well I was going to come
in and say that. That's the question. What type
of male did that sound like? Who do you know
who just, God damn, I can't even get it out.
Is that not a Sigma or what? Sigma. Yep. Sigma
male. You say Sigma? Yes, sir. Yeah, Sigma, most
definitely. Sigma male. Sigma male, that's it.
That's a Sigma male. God damn, boy. A lot of
people run around, say they alpha this, alpha
that. No, I'm Sigma. 100. Preach. Preach, preach,
preach. You have just been vetted on the Bull
Brothers podcast. Welcome to the Sigma male.
You're official now, bro. I appreciate that.
God damn, boy, you just broke that shit down.
You just broke it down. I'm sitting this way.
God damn, I'm fat. Shit. It works like that,
man. I want a little bit of credit for knowing
how to pick them. You picked. You damn sure picked.
You damn sure picked. He is vetted. He is vetted
right here. Yeah. At 8, 12 Eastern time. Eastern
Standard Time. Now we got to get you a t -shirt,
man. Now we got to get you the t -shirt. Oh,
yeah. Gotta get one. Gotta get one. You know,
I'll be seeing y 'all real soon. Yep. Yep. Oh,
man. Splashes around the corner. Yeah. Damn,
we broke that shit down. That was beautiful.
Beautiful. I have nothing to fucking say. You
just damn said it. You just said it. Man, I enjoy
being around, you know, couples, man. It's like,
it's less stress when you're dealing with couples
that know what they're doing in this and know,
you know, know what they want from it and understand
everything around it. You have some, don't get
me wrong. The new ones kind of be hard. I like,
I like, What I like, newbies, don't get me wrong,
because, you know, we all been up before. But
I like dealing with a man to an extent. The young
newbies, they kind of hard because they don't
know what they want for each other. It's like
it's a push and pull game. It's like, OK, I want
this, but I don't want to see him or vice versa
the other way around. Like, I don't know. It's
like. I don't see any way women feel like she's
the only one supposed to be involved and he needs
to stay out of the way or it's like when it's
time for him to get his pleasure with a woman,
it's like, no, no deal. You know, some of them
agree to it. That's what they like and that's
what it is. I just look at it and, you know,
I don't really judge it. That's how they make
it. It's cool. But I done seen some, like, when
I'm playing with the wife and the guy just flip
out. Not like... on me or make a scene but i
can tell by his body language that he's you know
very upset and he does things to stop the moment
when she really enjoying the moment and he wasn't
expecting this or even the small things like
making a woman squirt and he probably never made
a squirt and it's like wow this this energy shifted
fast. It's like this whole thing that took a
turn. And sometimes women can say things and
piss them off, you know, piss the husband off
or whatever. Like, why you can't make me do this?
Or it's just, man, this crazy moment. And see,
ladies and gentlemen, this is also a gentleman
because here's one thing he hasn't said. We've
been on this. We're recording for almost half
an hour now. He will not tell you, and I'm surprised
that Siren didn't mention this. Well, not yet.
I'm waiting for the moment. But the moment's
here. The motherfucker has a kickstand. I want
to tell the story. The motherfucker has a kickstand.
I want to tell the story. And he's gentlemanly
enough not to include that into the point where
the women are talking some crazy shit to their
husband. And he's not going to tell you that
including my game and my approach and my signal
illness and I know how to carry myself and I
got him smooth. I have a bazooka down there.
He is gentleman enough not to say that. Yeah,
well, I was waiting. You know me. I like to tell
a story when I introduce the gentleman's dick.
Right. So the first time in Houston, I think.
I can't remember if it was our first time to
Houston or our second. I can't remember. Um,
but we played on like the Sunday and you know,
he came up or whatever. And I was like, all right.
And, and he took off his shorts and I turned
around and I said, did you have to buy a wristband
for him too? Because I was just like staying.
I was like, I was like, I don't know how this
is going to work. But it was great. And we have
a good video of it, too. You figured out how
it was going to work, didn't you? I did. It was
great. And also, I want to point out one thing
you said. Oh, just like a small thing, like making
a woman squirt. Well, there's a lot of women
that have never done it. I was damn near a month
shy of 40 years old when I finally really squirted
when Socrates and I got together. So, you know,
some women like go their whole lives, you know,
and I just thought I couldn't. I just was like,
well, I'm not a squirter. Yeah, I'm a squirter.
What are you talking about squirting? A lot of
women have never had a damn orgasm. Yeah. Whether
vaginal or clitoral. Yeah. Okay. So he's packing,
as the name says, black magic, all right? No
doubt. I try to keep the mystery, man. I don't
know how you don't pass out. As you should, brother.
When you get an erection, where's the blood for
the rest of your body? I just don't know. Yeah,
but they never had. If they've never had that
type of orgasm, that vaginal orgasm from deep
penetration, okay, then they're having an out
-of -body fucking experience and the husband
has never seen his wife like that, you know?
And that can fuck a man's psyche up if he's never
seen her like that before, especially when she
starts, I call it, going into the twilight zone
and getting dickomatized. she starts seeing different
like you said like black magic she starts you
know getting purple and and and you know the
body starts she can't control her damn body she
can't control her yeah it will a man up if he's
never seen him yeah so keep doing keep doing
what you're doing brother keep bringing it yeah
all i can do is do what i can man what i was
blessed with and you know that's it but a lot
of it ain't always a fortunate thing i can tell
you that I've been in some situations where it
got all the way to the moment it got shut down.
Like, that's one of the things of not telling
them, you know, it should be a warning before
destruction. But sometimes, you know, I try to
ease my way in that, you know. Literally. Because,
like, newbies, when they see it, it's like, oh,
no, this is not going to work, God. i'm like
you ain't even tried like you would try well
you know can i can i well i think we talked about
it on the dick matrix but let me you know just
kind of share this has been my experience is
there is certain dicks that are say like 10 inches
i don't know what that is five six inches around
or something and they get hard as a fucking rock
concrete OK, and then there are some really big
dicks. They don't get like that. And what women
have to understand is it's like they get an erection
and they can fuck the shit out of you. But it's
not like that concrete feeling. It's it feels
really good. It's like there's this like that
concrete dick is inside there and then they have
all this extra dick meat. You know how we have
fat pussies? They have like fat dicks. So it's.
It feels good, actually. It's not painful. Like,
you think this huge dick is just going to rip
you to shreds. Well, it doesn't feel like that.
And that's been my experience with some of these
guys that you look at and you're frightened,
is it's not tear you up hard. It feels good.
I don't know. You're just going to have to try
it. I promise you it's not. As terrifying as
it looks. It's really a good time. Y 'all listening,
ladies? Yeah, because when I met you, that was
the biggest one I had seen in a minute. And so
I was like, whew, okay. But I was like, oh, this
feels really enjoyable. Like the whole time.
So, you know, it wasn't like that. It wasn't
like he's not tearing you up. You know, you need
to go to the ER afterwards. It was enjoyable.
So I just want to put that word out there for
the ginormous. Yeah, I appreciate it because
that's what I try to make it, you know, enjoyable.
Not try to rip you apart and all that. I like
to make it good for everybody, you know. That's
why we've played at least four times because
it is a good time. Nephew, what is he? What is
it from former episodes? A pleasure what? Dumb.
A pleasure provider. A pleasure provider, that's
right. A pleasure provider, that's what it is.
My best moments would be like one -on -one sessions.
I love a good one -on -one session. Amen. Because
the way I am, my mind, like I tried the gangbang
and all, I can't, like, it just, I can't. there's
a lot of reasons you know um yeah i can't sit
down with my dick in my hand waiting and i don't
i'm not good with all that and just distraction
i guess i'm adhd or whatever you want to call
it but i'm easily distracted to while i got to
be in tune with the individual you know to just
really do good you know if i'm not mentally there
everything else is just like And I know you kind
of, oh, sorry, our last episode. I had no complaints.
I know you didn't feel like you was 100. No,
no, it was like the thing that happened. At first
it was good, but I'm talking about the last of
it. I may have been too far. He left out and
the other girl came in. This other girl came
in and she was just watching and then he got
turned off because she wasn't participating.
She was just staring at us. I had the same incident
with this person before. They knew what they
were doing. He's trying to fuck your game up.
I still have time. Yeah, exactly. No, literally.
Yeah. Literally. Yeah. It's all right. We can
try again next time I see you. No big deal. No
big deal. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. I'll be
down again. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. Yeah.
But, yeah, when it comes to couples, too, I do
like to say this, man, because you got some couples
where the husband may be. too thirsty for the
wife to get pleasure and it was like a moment
I had not too long ago where I was pleased well
I thought they was married come to find out they
wasn't married to each other because right after
it was done she started asking for my number
and I was only communicating with him all the
way up until the point and After they were done,
she wanted my number specifically. I'm like,
well, you can go through him. If he approve of
it, then it's good, you know. And she's like,
no, we're not together like that. We've only
been dating for like three months or whatever.
I'm like, I don't think he out married. But,
you know, I was like, he was like, oh, now y
'all trying to leave me out? I'm like, no, whatever
y 'all got going on, y 'all discuss that. But
she ain't got to worry about me trying to undercut
and get with her without you. Y 'all figure that
out. But, yeah, you got some crazy situations
that occur. My brother, I think it's safe to
say that you would be a pretty damn good male
companion, i .e. escort, out there in the world.
I wish I would have had you with me. How old
are you, by the way? If you don't mind me asking.
I'm 44. I'm 44. 44. Well, boy. Well, you were
too young then when I was over there in Germany
doing my thing. But, you know, I would have loved
to have maybe had you over there a few years
after the fact. That's where I need to be. We
would have had a great time because you definitely
check off all the blocks. Definitely check off
all the blocks. Well, you know what? I mean.
He we're going to be throwing some parties coming
soon. So we definitely, you know, a lot of the
gentlemen that come on the show, they are top
notch. I wouldn't invite him if they weren't.
Mr. Morgan wouldn't invite him if they weren't.
Siren wouldn't invite him if they weren't. These
are going to be a lot of the gentlemen that we
invite to some of our parties that are, you know,
either our personal parties or Bull Brotherhood
sponsored parties or. you know, siren or freedom
parties, whatever. So it's definitely something,
you know, we're going to be talking to you about
in the future. So tell me this, Mr. Black Magic,
how'd you get that name? Oh, that's a good question.
I don't even think I remember. Actually, man,
just to be honest, it was just real simple. I
was doing an account. I can't remember what site
it was. And you got to come with a username.
I came up with black magic and stuck with it.
I just stuck with it. And that's, you know, what
carried me through. It's fitting. It's fitting.
It was funny because at one time I was calling
myself Socrates. Because I used to read a lot
of philosophy and I love, yes, I love. So you
were stoic as well. It was actually black Socrates.
Black Socrates. I thought of that. I was thinking
that. I was going to do Black Socrates. I was
this close to doing Black Socrates. I was like,
but that's too long. Socrates is long enough
for me. That's too long of a name. Man, I love
philosophy. I read philosophy a lot. That's kind
of going along with free spirit, free thinking.
Those are all free thinkers, man. Sacrifice,
Plato, Aristotle, I love. It's just something
about once I get in tune into those subjects,
it takes me every while. Are you a Stoic as well?
Yes, yes. I love all this here. Who's your favorite
Stoic? I'm just more into the Stoicism, just
the readings of it, and just listening to it
on, like, channels or whatever. I just like listening
to it. That's what's up. There's a good book
called The Obstacle is the Way. He is a stoic.
The author, I can't remember. I'll send you a
link. It'll be in the show notes for sure. But
he is a great stoic representative. All of his
books, he's written seven books, but several,
not seven, several. And it's all based on stoicism.
And which I think really guides me as a bull
as well is being stoic. I'm not always stoic,
but it's a discipline that I've committed myself
to. Does the philosophy, my favorite, who is
your favorite modern -day philosopher, and how
has that flushed itself out or manifested itself
in lifestyle? I don't have a modern -day philosopher.
I'm still with the traditionals. Aristotle was
one of the more ones I was. Outside of Socrates,
Plato, it was Aristotle. And I don't know how
to pronounce it. I think that's how you pronounce
it. That's the way I like to pronounce it, like
Neil Atmerary. It's like never a mile, marvel
at nothing. And I kind of live by that, you know,
through our life. Like Neil Atmerary. Like N
-I -L -A -D. M -I -R -A -R -I or whatever. But
it definitely means never admire or marvel at
nothing. Gotcha. Like, don't be excited by this
or this or, you know. How has what you've learned
in philosophy translated to the way you are as
a bull or as a play partner? Well, let me give
you an example. So one of my favorite modern
philosophers is Adler. I wrote a book. I mean,
I read a book recently. It's called The Courage
to be Disliked. And one of the principles it
talks about is horizontal leadership versus vertical.
And vertical leadership is based on hierarchies,
right? So this guy's above you and this person
above you and that person's. Whereas vertical
or horizontal leadership is we're all on the
same plane, right? I just have a different job
to do. Yes, exactly. I'm a CEO in my personal
life. I'm an entrepreneur in my personal life.
But the lowest person in my company, in my mind,
is equal. Does that make sense? Exactly. Yes,
most definitely. So when Unc is teaching me things
like being a pleasure provider, some people look
at that as, oh, you're being submissive or you're
worried about the woman. No. Or if I consider
myself a dominant or if I consider myself a leader,
that doesn't mean I'm over you. That doesn't
mean I'm more important than you are. It means
this is the role or position or framework I'm
going to play because this is what I believe
in. You're equal to me and your role is a submissive
or a bottom or somebody that I'm just being equally
in a room trying to give and get pleasure, right?
That just defines our roles. But I'm never, ever
above you. And it also makes you feel like, you
know, I don't care who you are. You could be
the president. You could be a billionaire. You
could be whoever. You're not above me either.
Right. So it's about seeing everybody as equal,
even in the positions where there's hierarchical
structures. So for me, it's like in lifestyle,
we had a debate with some friends. You know,
we call it the triangle debate. That'll come
out soon. And I was like, everybody's equal.
100 % in their responsibility and their challenges
and the struggle to overcome any kind of challenges,
right? That's why it's horizontal. There is no.
So have you had anything that you've learned
in philosophy that you feel like translated into
being a better bull? Yes. I mean, I ain't going
to lie. In that situation, every day is something
that just by studying that philosophy. tell me
to adapt into this lifestyle it's because it's
still the same thing as far as our walk you know
it's just when it comes to understanding people
it comes a long way in helping to identify and
associate better you know when i feel like being
a good listener is one of the most things you
could do you know man i sit back I mean, when
I was young, I was like this. When I was young,
I was kind of some kind of way got myself involved
with older women. And I listen. They know more
than me. I'm not going to act like I know more
than them. I'm almost a teenager still. It's
like I listen to women, you know, because I learn
from listening. And they believe we had a good
conversation after I was talking. They did. And
I ain't said nothing just because I listen. And,
you know, we both came out on top in the situation.
um because now siren i do know you here so you
can agree that women love to talk most but most
i will say yes we do like to talk in my ladies
group i have a siren of freedom ladies group
i do not let them railroad any men in that group
so there will be ladies hey do you know this
guy like what do you know about him and i say
If you haven't played with him and he didn't,
maybe he wasn't the right fit for you, but you
aren't allowed to do a bunch of negativity on
there. So positive reviews only, unless if it's
someone who maybe something unsafe happened,
then we need to bring it to the gentlemen of
the community. right away instead of talking
about it so i don't let them just get on there
and say i didn't like this guy and his breath
was bad and shit like that i don't i don't let
it happen and um and there's another gal on there
that is my moderator and she you know she'll
make sure of that too so if she don't catch you
i will and then if you try more than once then
you're out so we try to keep it positive but
but yeah we do chat about what we like and I
heard about your group. Yeah? What'd you hear?
Yeah. I didn't know. You never told me about
it. I heard it through other women. I'm like,
oh, she got a group for women only? Okay, cool.
Yeah. Interesting. We have fun, too. But no,
I heard good things about it. Yeah. We try to
keep it fun and keep it positive. The other day
we did, you know, I said, you know, post a picture
of a favorite thing about your body and tell
us why you love it, whether it's something that...
you know it's strong and you know it does this
or you know you feel like it's what makes you
beautiful or whatever and it was just a really
good it was probably one of the most participated
in you know things and then um the other moderator
she had us do a day where we uh spoke about our
weekend and kind of like old english language
it was hilarious you know yeah i was like A fortnight
ago, I was on my journey to the great country
of Texas, you know. It was fun. So we just tried
to do something fun every couple days in there.
It's fun. Post pictures and stuff too? No, we're
not. I mean, it's a bunch of women. So, you know,
unless we're doing something like the body positivity
thing, we don't really post a bunch of pictures.
You know, like nothing scandalous and usually.
you know once in a while we don't have like the
stuff that is in the the you know the groups
that has everybody in it um we try to keep it
mostly to talking and you know i never shut anyone
down from posting something you know but in general
when it's all just a bunch of women in the room
like we're not trying to we're not trying to
show off to each other you know so yeah or we
did like hey everybody post your favorite song
that you're just rocking to right now. Like let's,
you know, help each other build some awesome
playlists or, you know, or a woman will have
a question or, you know, about, or sexual health
topics that we get into, you know, about different
things that will help women, um, stuff like that.
So it's, it's, it's really good. Yeah. I've been
enjoying it. Yeah. That's what's up. And Sacrifice,
you said something. When I met you, what you
said kind of, you know, let me know, man. We
think on the same plane in a lot of areas. And,
like, how you just, you know, being social. Like,
it ain't about going to see who you're going
to have sex with or how many women. You know,
like how you say you just go places. You don't
even have it on mind. It's a natural thing that
occurs. You don't have to look for it. It's there.
It'll happen. It ain't. Like, if you go somewhere
and don't have sex, it's not a big, it ain't
even about that no more. I don't know if it got
to do with age or what, but maturity for sure.
It's just like, yeah, you just go places. A lot
of people you go out with, they're like, man,
I want to know what it's going to be like. It's
a DTF. If it ain't that, I don't want to come.
I don't even think like that no more. It's more
like. Man, I'm coming to have a good time being
social or whatever. If I walk out of there and
nothing happened, at least I know I had a good
time being married, you know? And, yeah. My brother,
that's called evolution. I talk about it all
the time. You are evolving as a person, a man,
and a bull. All right? I applaud that. I applaud
you. I thoroughly enjoyed listening to you tonight.
Hell, I think I got family in Houston, Texas
now. god damn more definitely man you ever come
down feel free to reach out you just broke down
what a sigma male is you know it's very rare
that you meet one that is that is uh living the
life the same way as another you know but you
are definitely doing that definitely doing that
it is a pleasure as far as i'm concerned you
are on the uh on the special guest host list
from now on okay I appreciate that. Yeah, definitely.
Definitely. Yeah. I want this to be the last
time. So, yeah. Oh, no, it definitely will not.
It definitely will not. Believe me. Trust and
believe it will not. It will not. Nephew. Right
on. Yes, sir. Nephew, are you there? Yes, sir.
All right. I'm sitting there looking at the time.
I'm timing it just right because my phone is
about dead. Okay. It's about dead. I hate to
cut it off, but we might have to have a part
two for this one, all right? Oh, yeah. All right,
then. Look here, ladies and gentlemen, it has
indeed been a pleasure to sit here and listen
to the one and only Black Magic out of Houston,
Texas. And he will definitely be back as a special
guest host for the Boy Brotherhood in the very
near future. And let me do something that I don't
usually do. I'm going to give out my social media
handles to the people out there listening. If
you want to email me, you can email me at sigmamail3390
at gmail .com. I am on Instagram, bmorgan3390,
and Twitter at sigmamail1227. Until we meet again,
y 'all, good night.